Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Randi Druzin Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1686

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

In this 1686th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Randi Druzin returns to play and discuss her 10 favourite songs of all-time. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, R...idley Funeral Home, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Yes We Are Open, Nick Ainis and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And right now, right now, right now it's time to... Take out the jams, motherfuckers! Welcome to episode 1686 of Toronto Mic'd, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times and brewing amazing beer. Order online for free local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville. Yes We Are Open, an award-winning podcast from Minaris, hosted by FOTM Al Greggo. Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. Join me on May 11th, that's this Sunday, at Christie Pitts. At 1.30pm, beyond the left field fence,
Starting point is 00:01:19 Sado becomes the first woman in our country to pitch against a professional men's team. becomes the first woman in our country to pitch against a professional men's team. RecycleMyElectronics.ca. Committing to our planet's future means properly recycling our electronics of the past. Building Toronto Skyline, a podcast and book from Nick Ienies, sponsored by Fusion Corp Construction Management Inc. And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today, returning to Toronto, Mike, to kick out the jams, it's Randy Druzen.
Starting point is 00:01:52 How you doing, Randy? I'm doing well. How are you? If this were the CBC, let's pretend this is Metro Morning, okay? And I am David Common, who's also an FOTM like yourself. Would you have been 11 minutes late for your on-air appearance? I want the truth Probably No way 1107 so maybe two minutes earlier than I actually arrived Randy. This is a professional operation I was it was 10 minutes late. I'm like, where is I was gonna say where is Randy River?
Starting point is 00:02:23 But we did that during your first appearance I don't mind the nickname stuck in traffic is that the excuse we're gonna go with here it's not just an excuse it's real anyone in Toronto would know what I just went through on the way here on the Gardiner Expressway well hey you came here because you knew you'd leave a fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. I have a lasagna in my freezer from Palma Pasta, and I have a wireless speaker for you from Monaris. So you can listen to season eight of Yes We Are Open, which is an award-winning podcast from Al Grego.
Starting point is 00:02:57 That's why you came. That's exactly why I came. And I have to tell you, I did take the lasagna to a family event and it was a big hit You know you act surprised would I endorse pasta that was less than stellar. It is delicious. I got a call from Dave Charles He's a radio guy who helped start q107 by the way This is a jam kicking a good old-fashioned jam kicking and I just want to tell the q107 listeners They're gonna be very happy with your jams.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I love the jams I chose and I chose them because I knew you would love them too. Well there these are going to be a big hit with the Q107 audience. But back to Dave Charles real quick. He phones me yesterday. You know when Dave Charles phones you, you accept the charges and he says, Mike, I just want you to know I'm here with my wife Rita and we're at Palma's kitchen and I only go to Palma pasta because they support your show. This is a phone call I got yesterday. I wouldn't go there for that reason. I'd go there because lasagna is excellent. Well the lasagna is excellent. Okay you're good at this. Okay we're gonna get to the gems right away but by the way one more gift because you got
Starting point is 00:03:59 stuck in traffic here. Romantic traffic right? I don't like that song. Okay tell me why, tell me why you don't like that song. Okay, tell me why, tell me why you don't like romantic traffic. And while you tell me, I'm going to find it. In fact, if I, if I just vamp a little bit longer here. Randy, why don't you like romantic traffic? See my face, see my eyes rolling back in my head. Yeah, you look like you're about to be at Ridley Funeral Home. Boring. Boring. This song is boring. So you need, and again, don't spoil your jams, we're going to get to them, but this lacks a certain oomph. Oomph. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going through your jams and we're going to get to them right away and then we'll talk goaltending and hockey and all these other things along the way.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But like I'm listening to your jams. They all, they all sound like they could be played before the anthems at a playoff hockey game. Like they're all big. Even including the last few choices. Well, okay. Okay. So I'm going backwards. Okay. Let's this is an on air meeting, but you numbered them one to 10. I'm starting with 10. Should I start at one? I'm fine either way. I love them all the same. Like do I close with the heavy, big rock thing
Starting point is 00:05:10 or do I close with the not rocky kind of disco-y thing? I say go out with a bang and on a big rock tune. Okay, but if you had a message for the people who wrote Romantic Traffic, I'm gonna bring this down. Let's hear it. Because I will play this for Rob Proust when he drops by for toast. Please give a message to the writers of Romantic Traffic. More cowbell. You gotta have more cowbell.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Always. Always. Okay. So did I give you the measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home? I believe you did. Okay. You got the measuring tape from Ridley funeral home? I believe you did. Okay. You got the measuring tape from Ridley funeral. So if it's okay with you, I'm going to bring down the song. You hate romantic traffic and we're going to kick this off. And again, this gets heavier as we proceed, but we're going to start with the jams.
Starting point is 00:05:55 We're going to talk about the jams. It will catch up between the jams. I'm very happy to see you. Do you remember your first appearance? My first appearance here? Yeah, absolutely. It was fun. I was here with Todd.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Todd. Okay. And Todd Deno who is not with you today. And is it fair to say you brought Todd with you in on March 7th, 2024 because you felt who's this guy in his basement? I need some protection. I think it was because I was having car trouble actually. I know Taekwondoondo so I'm not really
Starting point is 00:06:25 afraid of you. Okay, I just saw the most recent episode of The Last of Us. Did you watch this HBO show? Oh yeah, I do. And I was caught up. We're not gonna spoil anything but I am caught. Well, I didn't watch the one this past Sunday. Okay, you're not. But until then, I was caught up. I saw the one. I don't want to. Okay, don't spoil it.
Starting point is 00:06:44 But I don't want to spoil it. Point is, you see like after the second episode, beating up bigger people. Yes, because they seem to be trained in some kind of arts. You're telling me you could take even though I have many pounds on you and I have very strong legs from cycling. You're telling me you can take me because you have this taekwondo. I'm fast like lightning. So I think I throw you off your game very quickly. I have a camera here.
Starting point is 00:07:07 We're on the live stream, live.torontomike.com. Would you fight me right now? Don't answer that. No, because I have to go to work later. I don't want any bruises. And are you able to share where you work, Randy, and remind us? I work at the CBC.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You work at the CBC, and as we established off the top, you would not have been 11 minutes late for the CBC Because you would have thought okay, just in case I hit traffic you would work that into your commute time Oh, I've got you there. I actually walk to work because I live so close to the building. Okay. Okay, you got me there Okay, I'm sorry that I haven't I'm not walking distance for you here Okay, by the way the first visit of Randy and Todd to know hello to Todd if he's listening at home in Coburg. Yes, that's right. Remind me, is that the one of the Big Apple?
Starting point is 00:07:49 I think it's just before the Big Apple. I think if you go, you know, 10 minutes further, you'll end up where the Big Apple is. No, how you like them apples, Todd? Okay. March 7, 2024. So a little over a year ago, it was episode 1447. And we chatted about your career in sports media. We're gonna catch up on a lot of this between the songs. We talked about the greatest goaltenders of all time, and we talked about a band, but I'm not gonna name the band
Starting point is 00:08:15 because they're the number one song. We'll talk about this band, this secret band, if you didn't hear episode 1447. We'll talk about them when we get to your first jam. But just to remind people before I hit play, the two books I'm excited that you wrote are Behind the Mask, which is a sequel to Between the Pipes, right? That's correct. So there is a, especially in Toronto, which is the only place I care about, there's big goaltending news and we will discuss
Starting point is 00:08:45 all of this. Are you ready to kick out the jams? I am. I was petrified, kept thinking I could never live without you by my side But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong And I grew strong, and I learned how to get along And so you're back, thrown out of space I just walked in to find you here with that sad look upon your face I should have changed that stupid lock, I should have made you leave your key If I'd have known for just one second You'd be back to bothering me
Starting point is 00:09:30 Now don't walk out the door Just turn around now Cause you're not welcome anymore Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with your spy Did you think I'd rumble Did you think I'd lay down and life to live, and I've got all my love to give, and I'll survive. I will survive. Randy, I set this up by saying the Q listeners are gonna love these jams
Starting point is 00:10:07 and we started with a jam that is not played on Q107 as far as I know but tell us about this jam. Why do you love it? Why'd you pick it? Well, this song makes me feel like moving. It has since the first time I saw it. How can you listen to that song and not want to shake your booty? It's impossible. It's also gotten me through, I don't know, six or seven breakups. So that helps as well. These are romantic breakups?
Starting point is 00:10:30 Oh yeah. But I think... Are you currently attached? Quasi. Quasi attached. That means you have a friend with benefits. That means I have a situation ship. This is complicated, right? So you're with somebody, but are you willing to share what makes it complicated? Or is that too private?
Starting point is 00:10:47 No, I think relationships in general are complicated. Male-female relationships, romantic relationships of any kind. And I think anyone who's gone through a breakup, I think the song will resonate with them. And also, I think Anthony Stolarz might be listening to this song today. Let's do that right now while Gloria Gaynor is in the background. By the way, I personally, I think this is a great song and I'm glad you chose it. And of course it's your songs. I don't have a say in the matter, but I got to say the cake version is the version that
Starting point is 00:11:15 I would hear all the time on the radio. Do you know the cake cover? I don't think I've heard the cake cover. Big hit. Like I will survive by cake. Big hit. And I think a lot of stupid Gen Xers like me kind of learn this song through Cake. But we're stupid, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:29 You don't want to date stupid Gen Xers. But do you have an age range? I am a stupid Gen Xer. No. But what age range? I figured you were dating the Millennials. What do I know? What age range do you prefer for a date?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like if you were unattached and you were going to meet somebody for, let's say a coffee to see if there's any chemistry. Do you care about age? Yeah, I like to go somewhere between 15 and 19 You're joking right I am joking yes, there's songs about them, but it's usually the other gender I'd say 40s 40s 50s generally. Okay. Oh goodness gracious. I'm in that range Okay, if I wasn't attached, I would let you beat me up and then we go for coffee. But no, I would take it to Great Lakes Brewery for a fresh craft beer. Last night, I've watched every minute so far of Maple Leaf playoff
Starting point is 00:12:17 hockey. I love my Leafs and I love the playoffs. Who doesn't, right? You're watching? Oh yeah. Every game. Do you just focus on the goaltenders? You have like a tunnel vision for how the goal is doing? No, I do focus on the goaltenders more so than the other players, but I do take in the game holistically like everyone else does. What do we know at this moment?
Starting point is 00:12:37 So I need to timestamp it, because for all I know in 20 minutes, the Leafs will issue some detailed statement of what's going on. But at 11.24 a.m., and I haven't checked the you know you were late but I haven't checked the internet in about a half an hour. What do we know about the status of Maple Leaf Goaltender Anthony Stolarz? I don't know I checked this morning I didn't see any updates I just know that he went to the hospital for examination
Starting point is 00:13:01 and assessment and that the NHL is probably being pressured to you know lay some kind of suspension on Bennett but other than that. So did he put out an elbow or what did he do he skated by Stolarz and elbowed him in the head is that what he did? I think he from my perspective I thought he skated by Stolarz and kind of did elbow him in the head. I don't know if it was incidental, but I think if you look at his background. I was going to say when you go to court and they're sentencing you, they look at your previous record. Look me in the eyes. Okay, Randy. Would you date Sam Bennett?
Starting point is 00:13:37 No. So if he says, Randy, I want coffee. Only if you let me beat him up. Or elbow him in the head over coffee. I like the way you roll here. Okay. So I have more, I'm actually going to get to this next jam because then it then this next jam I think is the final Randy jam that's not in the queue realm. Okay. So all the other songs are these like rock and big rock and numbers that you would hear
Starting point is 00:14:00 on Q107 for example, except this next one. So let's do this one. We'll get back to all the above. I want to chat. Yeah, but let's get to another jam here. We should be talking up this intro, Randy. You missed me. I was just voguing. Were you? Oh, luckily I'm recording that video. I'm going to watch it tonight on the big screen. I'll bring it back, but were you ever blonde?
Starting point is 00:15:22 No, but I was dared to go blonde once and I chickened out. Was that during the blonde ambition tour? It was around that time, but I have dark eyebrows, so I don't think it would have. It wouldn't have been a good look for me. You try everything you can to escape The pain of life that you know The life that you know But all else fails and you know to see Something better than you are today I know a place where you can get away It's called a dance floor And here's what it's for So come on, let's go All right, Randy, tell me why you chose Vogue from Madonna.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Because it's probably my favorite dance song of all time. And here's a secret. I like to rock. I also like to dance. And that is an amazing dance song. I'm not going to argue that, but you are 80-20 split there in your jam kicking here today. I have a spoiler alert 80 rock and rollers and 20% of your jams are dancey numbers like this. But you know there's a through line between all those songs and that is they make you want to move. Whether you're
Starting point is 00:17:00 banging your head or shaking your tush it makes you want to move. All the music that I chose makes you want to move. Okay, are you a active person? Not sexually active. Are you a physically active person? Like do you... Oh yeah. What's your go-to physical activity? Well, I like... I play squash, I play softball, and in the past I've played hockey. Hopefully I'll take it up again next winter Because I just coached a team of seven-year-olds and realized I kind of miss being on the ice
Starting point is 00:17:31 Has your softball league started up yet? No, it's starting the end of May and it's the CBC softball league and we're often short male players Why you yeah, I played for a slow pitch for 15 years Right. It's because when I used, I played for a slow pitch for 15 years and I used to coach another team that was less competitive and my problem was fulfilling the female requirement. I always struggled because depending on the league, we had a league where it was four, four and yeah, you need four women players and then we switched to league three and it was still, sometimes I'd be looking like, Hey, any woman out there, do you play slow pitch and we need a player but you're telling me you're short guys yes I play for the CBC team
Starting point is 00:18:09 would you yeah no really what part of the world you playing we play in sometimes we play at sororan Park yeah and then we often play at Riverdale you know where that is right longer long a longer bike ride but I would do I did that for Jim Cuddy okay I would make would make that trip, but a Saranin park, right near Jim Cuddy, not too far from where he lives. Okay. Does he play with you guys? He's a hockey guy. No, he doesn't, but I think he'd make a good right fielder. I bet you know what? I think he's more of a lefty, put him in. Oh, I want to talk back. We're going to get back to hockey, talk, goaltenders, especially as a playoffs are underway here. But other than the fact this makes you move, like were you
Starting point is 00:18:50 a big Madonna fan? And I'm thinking like in high school was Madonna like, Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Madonna was huge. And I think people, people have forgotten that. And young people now don't really know how big she really was in the 80s and 90s. Massive. I don't think, I would say pound for pound in terms of hits. Second place may be Michael Jackson, but Madonna's won, I think. Oh, yeah. Just so many hits. Yeah. And I think her hits extend over a greater time period than Michael Jackson's did. I mean, Madonna's still out there. I don't know when she had her last hit.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Michael starts very early. But he was with the Jackson 5. That doesn't count. But off the wall, like you're in the late 70s. Yeah, I think that was 79. But you're right. When is holiday? Is that like early 80s? I think that was like 83, 82, 83 around there. Randi, you're talking me into this. But yeah, without a doubt, Madonna hit late in artist. I once on a toast actually, aforementioned toast. I was talking about her immaculate collection. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:19:47 Many have many have that all Gen X women have that CD. Okay, that's like the law But she actually had so many hits she left number one Billboard Hot 100 hits off of her Immaculate collection one that pops into my mind is the who's who's that girl? Who's that girl went to number one on the billboard hot 100 and didn't make the cut for? the immaculate collection Wasn't that a song in a movie that she desperately seeking Susan or another movie? It was who's that girl was a movie. I think was that the name of the movie. Yeah, I think so That's not one of my favorite Madonna songs, but I do like it's not a bad song, but it's not my favorite
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, it's not like that's why she got off it off. No it's no romantic traffic don't worry I'll be playing that clip for Rob Bruce don't worry about that. Okay back to the Leafs for a moment here because you wrote these books can people still get these excellent books between the pipes and behind the mask. Tell me what they're about and how can people get them? Well they're both collections like anthologies, profiles of great goalies. So the first book has 12 and the second book has 12. They're sort of a sequel. The second book is a sequel but they're the same format and the same approach which is emphasizing the personality of each goalie as well as his accomplishments.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And as discussed we're not going to repeat episode 1447, but you're a huge Hasek head. I am. I mean, I lived in the Czech Republic in the 90s, and that's when Hasek and Jagr were like the two best players, arguably, in the NHL. And I got Hasek fever. What can I say? And then when I interviewed him for the book, I was really impressed with how intelligent and thoughtful he was and his answers. It wasn't just Cliche'd answers that he'd memorized great goalie, but the argument we had an episode 1447 people should go back was Todd
Starting point is 00:21:34 And I are adamant that if we have a game seven in the Stanley Cup We want Patrick Juan is prime, but you're saying no you want Hasek. Well, I think both are exceptional goalies, but I think there is an anti Hasek bias in Canada because he's not North American and because he was such an odd duck So I think that didn't help but I mean realistically either one of those guys could really bring it in a game seven Okay, no bad choices there. Okay, I Wonder and I'm wondering you as a goaltending expert if we have to go with wall for the rest of the series against the Panthers How do you think the Leafs would fare? Not fair to him to come in no warm-ups or anything. He has to come in cold
Starting point is 00:22:17 He hasn't played all playoffs But yesterday, you know, you couldn't help but notice and it wasn't even his fault like that That last goal was deflected, and I feel like nobody's stopping that. Maybe Dominic Hasek, but how do you feel the Leafs will fare in this series if Wall is our goalie as opposed to Stolarz, and then how would we fare if Stolarz is fine
Starting point is 00:22:35 and can play a game too? I'm dying to hear what you think. Well, I think Wall is a good goalie. There's no arguing with that, but he's also smaller than Stolarz, and I think more injury prone in general. And you know what kind of team Florida has, like there's going to be a lot of crashing the net and I'm kind of worried about what might happen to Wall in the next game or game
Starting point is 00:22:55 three if he has to play those two games. Yeah, I remember last year he was pretty great and then couldn't play game seven. Yeah, recall he is injury prone, but he's a he's a good goalie and I saw his post-game interview last night. He seems pretty poised, pretty collected and up to the task. So my guess is he'll be in game two because I can't see how Stolarz can go to the bench, vomit, end up in the hospital and come back and play game two. I mean maybe in 1963 that would have happened but I don't think it would happen today. I think that would have happened in 1993. Possibly yes because Doug Gilmore would have intimidated him and he would have said okay I'm back suck it up buttercup. We got this is the playoffs here. Okay, you know, what an interesting
Starting point is 00:23:34 What an interesting turn of events where you know, we were kind of cruising to that winning game one and we're feeling good and stole Ours has been pretty awesome. He's only lost like twice. I don't know in his last 14 games or something I've lost track but we like, it's all going great. And then of course something dramatic has to happen and we see wall coming in and it's like, nobody knows what's going on. They're guessing he was maybe the spotters took them out. I heard that, but then they said, if the spotters take you out because they think you got a concussion or need to be going in the dark room or whatever, you get to warm up your backup, right? Like you actually, there was a rule,
Starting point is 00:24:05 like a spotter takes you out, then Wall gets a warmup and they're like, did the Leafs choose not to warm him up, which makes no sense to me, but he didn't get a warmup, so it wasn't a spotter taking him out. But what interesting developments we have here in the second round.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Oh, absolutely. It's part of the beauty of the playoffs is there's always great storylines that emerge. But I think in this case, I'm not sure it was the spotters because I think what happened is I don't think it is a spot he went to the bench and he was you know vomiting on the bench like who knows who skates he hit but I think they just said you know what he's out when you're coaching those seven-year-olds did you have any vomit to clean up no but I do I did have some funny
Starting point is 00:24:41 conversations that I never expected to have on a hockey bench. Oh, that opens up a whole can of words. I do like I'm familiar with that age. Of course, I have four kids and they've all cleared that age. But there's a couple that are pretty like recently seven. I think I guess is it about farts and poo jokes? What's going on? No, I could tell you. My nephew I, my nephew's on the team, which is why I was coaching it. And he just, he's eight and, um, in one of our playoff games, he had a few breakaways and he scored on one of them, but that wasn't the one he was most excited about. He was excited about the breakaway in which he took a shot that
Starting point is 00:25:18 ended up in the, in the goalie's midsection and he skated to the bench and he said, Auntie Randy, Auntie Randy, I hit the goalie in the testicles. And this little boy sitting beside him said, you're supposed to say balls. You know, it does feel weird when a seven-year-old says that, even though we teach them to say testicles, all the doctor words, it does sound weird. It really does, especially in the middle of a hockey game. Or gonads or something, maybe we can find. Gonads isn't as clinical as testicles, so I would have gone with that, but testicles gave me pause.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Right in the nuts. Okay, speaking of nuts here, we're gonna change gears here from your dancey, let's get moving to some rocking numbers. And I actually think I have to do a little check here, but I believe this is your newest of your 10 jams. I think this is the newest one. You ready?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Sure. I think this is the newest one. You ready? Sure. Let up on guns, bring your friends It's fun to lose And to pretend she's all alone With a selfish shirt and all I know Is dirty words Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello Well the lights out, it's so dangerous
Starting point is 00:27:14 Here we are now, entertainers I'm the stupid, and contagious Here we are now Entertainers, I'm a shadow I'm a vinyl, I'm a skater I'm a feeder, yeah Alright, here we go, Randy. Now it's a jam kickin'. Why Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's simple. I was over 18 in 1992 and I mean, how could you not love that song? It's iconic and again, it makes you feel like moving. It's just an amazing song. I don't think anyone who you know, who is over the age of 18 at that time doesn't know that song and I think most people really like it. It's like a definitive song. It changes all your hair rockers have to take a hiatus because of this song. Exactly. It was amazing. Have you seen the weird Al Yankovic send up of it? Every time that,
Starting point is 00:28:23 um, I hear the goat. And I don't know what I'm saying. It's a great, it's great. Vince Lombardi, I think. Yeah. Of course. First of all, big, you know, big Al TV, Al music actually. So, okay, I only had much music, you too, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I never had MTV, did you? No. But you had a rich kid who probably had a satellite dish, but I never got invited over to that guy's house, OK? So all I had was much music. And Al would do these takeovers called Al Music, remember? Fucking loved him, like loved him. He would just do those interviews of rock stars.
Starting point is 00:28:55 He would take their answers and then film him asking fake questions. And he did, you know, we did his songs and all this stuff. But then I found out as an adult that he would do the same thing on MTV first and call it ALTV and then he would come to Much Music and do AL music. So I always thought it was like a Much Music thing, but no. Oh.
Starting point is 00:29:17 How do you feel about that? So we weren't so special after all. No, we're not special at all. That kind of makes me sad. The older I get, the more I realize how unspecial we are. I do have a story about Nirvana and that is, as you know, I was living in Prague in the 90s and my boyfriend and I at the time bought tickets to see Nirvana who were scheduled to come to Prague. And then we ended up returning our tickets because Kurt Cobain ended up dead. Wow, okay so that's 94.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Yep. Wow. Okay so yeah. Do you still have the ticket stub or? No, you know what? My boyfriend and I had an argument about that because I said I hope you kept the stub because you know it's gonna be a collector's item at some point. He's like oh no, you know I wanted to go to the pub and I needed some money so I returned. I returned the tickets. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:04 There are like people who will say hey I so I returned. I returned the tickets. Right. There are like people who will say, Hey, I have a Joy Division stub for the edge in Toronto, which that's another show that, cause he took his own life before that tour. So that show never happened. And you see those kinds of circulating. Do you remember, like, I remember exactly where I was. I remember the reaction when, when you learned Kurt Cobain had killed himself. Yeah, I do remember I was, uh, because I was living in Prague we were a little bit behind like we were six hours ahead but we got the news a bit late was
Starting point is 00:30:33 before it was before the internet before it was popular but I do remember nobody phoned you with this news I didn't have a phone okay like that's that's a world that's a world I was living in at the time but I do remember everyone in the newsroom of the paper where I worked was pretty stunned and It took me a while to think about the tickets and what to do with the tickets But I remember feeling very sad because he always did seem a bit like a tormented a tormented soul and also I had a Fair fairly recently before he did take his own life, I was reading this pretty detailed piece about him trying to kill himself in Rome.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh, I heard... Because he was hospitalized with a drug overdose in Rome and it appeared to be a suicide attempt or whatever. So I had just read this detail. I remember, I can still... I read it on the TTC going to U of T and I read this detailed piece because remember I can still I read it on the on the TTC going to to U of T and I read this detailed piece because I was a huge still am a huge Nirvana fan just one of my favorite bands of all time still listen to them all the time fucking great band I think Kurt's a fucking genius
Starting point is 00:31:34 and I love it and then I remember reading this detail how close he came to kill himself so it's almost like when I heard the news I wasn't so my oh my god it was like that son of a bitch did it like he did it. Oh so you had read about that. I just read in such detail about this this Rome overdose that seemed to be a suicide attempt But I was funny for it also Chris Cornell You know like he was another great great voice great artist from that grunge movement and same thing happened to him So I don't know if there's something to it. Maybe that kind of genre just attracted tormented souls in some way. Yeah, I know. Terrible, terrible. We have a mental health crisis on our hand and there's a couple of key examples
Starting point is 00:32:13 there. What was the name of your boyfriend in Prague? James. Okay. My oldest son is named James. Well, he was British and because he was British, I used to call him Jimmy just to get under his skin and it worked. And I called my son for a long time. I called him Jimmy James after that song on check your head It's a great nickname. I should have thought of that at the time I guess I could send him an email now and address him as Jimmy James. You still friends?
Starting point is 00:32:37 We're friends on Facebook. We exchange emails once in a while. How many boyfriends did you have in Prague? Just Jimmy James. No, two. First James and then George. George was later. Was George Czechian? He was a Czech-Canadian. What is the term? Czech. He's a Czech. He's a Czech-Canadian. So, you know, he could start a sentence in English and switch into Czech and then go back. No interest in sports though, which was a bit of a negative, but he was a great guy. Very funny. Very funny. Okay, so we're gonna get to another jam. First I'm gonna invite you to an important event that I hope you can attend. It would make my day. And then after this next jam I want to ask you about some of the other playoff
Starting point is 00:33:18 matches and goaltenders etc. Okay so what are you doing Sunday? I'm going to Muskoka for Mother's Day. Oh, you know what? This Mother's Day thing is getting in the way. Okay. So, uh, you're off the hook. It's funny. Snow. Do you know snow? No, I don't know snow. In the early nineties. Do you remember Informer? Yes. Okay. Then you remember snow. Oh, is that snow? Is he, he the artist or she? Yeah, I know the song. Do you like this song? Yeah! I remember dancing to it.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Is it better than Romantic Traffic? I think so, in my estimation. Snow was here yesterday. Oh, really? Sitting right in that seat. Can I take it home? No, because that's a gift from Blue Sky Agency shout out to Doug Mills Who I talked to on the phone this morning. This is a great song. You think how come I didn't make your list?
Starting point is 00:34:12 I forgot it. Honestly, I forgot it. You might have made your list. I think I had it on a cassette tape Can you do me a favor? So I'm gonna invite everybody else not you cuz you're in Muskoka But I just want you to listen to yesterday's episode of Toronto Mike of Snow. Would you do that? I will. Okay. So it's the number, whatever number you are, minus one. Okay. And you'll find Snow, okay? 1685, if my memory's correct.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Snow Canadian? Toronto, yeah. Oh, wow. Toronto boy lives here now. Well, then I'll definitely listen. You got to hear the Snow story. He's all Toronto. You know, he was banned from every bay in the country.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Hi. Oh my God, you got to listen. Okay, I'll listen. Geez. Okay. I am shouting out Snow because he's great episode just yesterday. I'll get back to Snow in a minute because there's kind of a mind blow with regards to another Canadian musician you know, and maybe love, we'll find out.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And then how it almost applied to a sports media person I want to ask you about. And I want to ask you about another sports media person. But this Sunday, May 11th, 1.30 p.m. beyond the left field fence of the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball diamond at Christie Pitts is TMLX 18. Everyone is invited, come on by. We got some gifts from TML Baseball. Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball is making history. They have a woman, Ayami Sato. She's a Japanese woman who's going to start
Starting point is 00:35:39 for the blue, for the, I'm just calling the Blue Jays. She's not starting for the Blue Jays, although that wouldn't be so bad, but she's starting for the Maple Leafs at Christie Pitts on Sunday. We're gonna watch history. TMLX 18, everyone's invited. Toronto Maple Leafs have sent you a book here
Starting point is 00:35:53 you can read about the history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. It's a very rich history. I've watched some Toronto Maple Leafs baseball games, and I've really enjoyed them, and I love the atmosphere there at the ballpark. Hopefully Mother Nature is good to us on Sunday but I'm there rain or shine and I'm gonna be checking that out there. Can I say one thing about female pitchers? Yeah. There was a woman who
Starting point is 00:36:17 played in an exhibition game against a team that included Babe Ruth and apparently she struck him out. Is that right? Yep. A little bit of trivia for you on a Tuesday morning. Okay I did see I didn't know this but that is why do you remember the name of this picture? No I don't. I have to Google this. I have to find this out. I'm gonna learn more about this but you ready to kick ass with a song I love from a band I love from an album I love? You ready to do this? I am. This is great. My heart rate's going. You see, this is why I love it. One of the great intro songs. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Doesn't it make you feel like kicking over garbage cans? Oh yeah, no, you're... Doesn't it make you feel like kicking over garbage cans? Oh yeah, no. This is a hype song. I'm ready. Yeah. Wow. Welcome to the jungle. We got fun and games.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We got everything you want. But we know the names, we all know. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. We're the ones who make the most of it. Welcome to the jungle, we got fun and games, we got everything you want, honey we know the names, we are the people that can find whatever you may need.
Starting point is 00:37:34 If you've got the money, honey, we got your disease. The jungle, welcome to the jungle, we're the people that no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:37:51 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Rob loves his music. That's your after you finish with snow go listen to Rob Del Mundo kick out the jams on Toronto Mines. Okay. Moose Grumpy is keeping an eye, I think she's stationed outside the hospital that had the Stolarz there. Rob says hi by the way. Hi Rob. Moose is going to let us know if there's any updates on Stolarz. I think the all-leaf fans are on pins and needles needing to know what Ken Stolarz? I think the All-Leaf fans are on pins and needles, needing to know it. Can Stolarz play game 3? What's going on with this guy? Which hospital is he in? I don't know, because I made that up. She's not at the hospital. I don't even know. Do
Starting point is 00:38:33 you know what hospital? No, my guess is he's no longer at the hospital. Oh, I know. I was just trying to be like dramatic. She's not really at the hospital. But if anyone if any interns can tell me if they want to break what is it TMZ does this all the time right like some celebrities in the hospital in Los Angeles and then somebody will like call in a tip and get like a few bucks for it well if anybody knows anything I don't know if this works in Canada we're gonna try why guns Guns and Fucking Roses? For the same reason you love it, it makes you feel like kicking garbage cans. It's a great song. You know what? It's like a shot of
Starting point is 00:39:11 adrenaline. That's a common theme in all the songs I've chosen. When I start the next jam, I'm gonna go around the corner and see if I could find my appetite for destruction pennant I bought at a head shop on Yonge Street. I bought it in 1988. I remember the album cover for this I had it I think I had it on vinyl and then I had a cassette of this album I loved it so much. It's pretty play through like I'm trying to think if there's any weak links but it's pretty solid like what you get in there you get mr. Brownstone you get Paradise City you get Sweet Child of Mine of course you get this one. Do you like this one better than Paradise City?
Starting point is 00:39:46 Cause everyone seems to prefer Paradise City, but I don't. That's tough call. Elliot Friedman is reporting, sorry, FOTM Elliot Friedman is reporting there's no further discipline for Sam Bennett. Oh, that's disappointing. It is disappointing. He has a previous criminal record.
Starting point is 00:40:03 That's right. He's a repeat offender. He is a repeat offender. Let's get him off the ice. Come on, jeez. At least put like an electronic ankle bracelet on him or something. Do you know where you are, Bennett? You're in our goal crease and your elbow is in our goalie's face. This is a cool part and I'll answer your question in a minute. it. So I repeat that line to my kids all the fucking time like, you know, you are you're in the jungle baby you're gonna die. You don't say you're gonna die to your children I hope. I know, 100% I do. Even James? Well James is the oldest, the nine year old. He's especially targeted. No, the sweet little Morgan loves it when I say that to her. Trust me, they
Starting point is 00:40:46 got a good sense of humor. Okay. So how many have you seen Guns N' Roses live? No, never. And that's a disappointment because I think they'd be great. I'm sure they'll come back. I don't know if I'd want to see them at this point. I find that when I see bands now that I loved back in the day, they disappoint to a certain extent because they're just not what you remember. You know? Oh, okay. It was pre-pandemic and my brain can't tell anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:13 All I know is things that are pre-pandemic during and maybe post. So in the pre-pandemic and it, I was, I'm going to say somewhere between 2016 and 2018. Okay. I saw Guns N' Roses at the dome with my buddy Elvis. Cause I remember at the time I had never spent $150 on a concert ticket. It was the first time I spent 150 bucks, which I feel is like a cheap seat now.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I feel like times have changed dramatically, but I saw Guns N' Roses and they were full value. It was like three hours. They played every song you ever wanted to hear. And you know, okay, maybe he's not singing. Maybe Axl Rose is not singing like you sang in 1987 or whatever, but pretty fucking good. And slash was awesome. And I have I enjoyed the show. So, you know, you cough up cough up some of that CBC money and get your ass to see guns andoses before one of these key guys dies. Well, you know what? I saw, was it last year or the year before? I think it was last year, I saw Leonard Skinnerd and ZZ Top at Budweiser stage.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And I thought Leonard Skinnerd was great because I think the band members are all new relatively. Yeah, well, they had a plane crash in 77. No, but even from the lineup that was touring in the late 70s or early 80s, it's a different lineup. Like the band members I think were all in their 50s, probably. What are your thoughts on Freebird? You know what Freebird reminds me of? It reminds me of Forrest Gump.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Do you remember that scene where she's teetering on the brink of, on a balcony where she's considering killing herself? I think, I think, uh, Robin Wright, Robin Wright, pen one that she's no longer a pen. I think she was pen at the time I came in, but Sean Penn, I think, wasn't Sean Penn and who's that girl? Was he married to Madonna? Yeah, I forgot about that. Shanghai surprise. You remember this? Yes, I do remember that one.
Starting point is 00:43:06 But anyway, I think in that scene in Forrest Gump where Robin Wright is considering jumping, I think Freebird is playing. And whenever I hear the song, it reminds me of that scene. So I do like it. I think it's a bit long for me, but it's still a very good song. I think it's too short, okay?
Starting point is 00:43:22 I would say that whatever it is, 10 minutes or whatever. It's that song Iron Butterfly did where the song is like. Indigado de Vida. Three hours or something. Which came up with my CHFI episode a couple of days ago. No, you know what? I recorded an episode with the guy from Chilliwack, the lead singer and the founder of Chilliwack. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And his name's Bill Henderson and it's going to drop Friday. This is something I almost never do, but like I have too many episodes this week so I had to pre-record this one okay but he talks about there one of their early singles as the Collectors was 18 minutes and then I brought up into God of the Vita and and DJs at the time of course DJs needed needed pee breaks they needed smoke breaks like you needed a cocaine breaks cocaine breaks have you ever done cocaine I did once where um in a frat house and I felt like I was having a heart attack you snorted it like but okay so you I think I don't think I how I don't know I'm obsessed I think I put some under
Starting point is 00:44:17 my top lip like between my gums and my top lip I think I can't remember so what happened to you I just felt like we went to see this movie, the adventures of Baron von Munchausen. Yeah, Sarah Paul is in that. Right. And I remember Williams. I mean, this is this is the guy who made Brazil and the guy who made Time Bandits. Yeah. Was it Terry Gilliam? Yes. From Monty Python. Yeah. I remember feeling like I was going to have a heart attack. And so that was the first and last time I tried it. You know who's in this fucking movie, the first time I ever saw her and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:48 who is that beauty? Who? Uma Thurman. Oh. This is the first time I saw her and she was fucking, she was like a, some kind of goddess in a clam shell or something. I can't remember, I just remember thinking,
Starting point is 00:44:58 who is this woman? Yeah, I don't remember, I don't remember seeing her in that, but I don't remember the movie that well at all. I just remember like a feeling like like I need to go to the hospital I'm having a heart attack and I'm only 20 something Jesus. Okay, and you never did it again No, okay, cuz the guy I think this guy did it. You ready? Sure You think I Think I think you may be right, he may have done his cocaine a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Oh, very nice. I was worried you might come out with a chainsaw. Sit down. Okay, we'll get the black Sabbath in a minute. We'll dedicate this one to Midtown Gourd, but this, no one can see this, but unless they're on the live stream right now, but this is a pen I bought in 88 at a head shop downtown, like Wellesley and Young or something. And yeah, it's the appetite for destruction. And I still have it, Randy. I would like this design on a bath towel. Like I would use it every day when I shower.
Starting point is 00:46:21 If there's any towel sponsors out there, we could do this. Totally. You can contact Bed Bath & Beyond and start your own line of heavy metal towels. Randy Rockstar towels here. So just to close the Guns N' Roses thing, I guess in 87 it came out, that album. So I'm like 13 and I have this cassette. It was a cassette at the time. And I remember they had like drawings of like, it was crew drawings of like naked ladies and stuff in this thing. And I remember honestly feeling like I had contraband. And I was like, oh my God, this is, this band is so fucking dangerous.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You're like, what if mom sees this? I just was like, oh my God, I'm like an adult now. I feel like a Mo Berg here. I'm a fucking adult now because I've got this contraband. Like I'm listening to it and then, you used to do a little and a little wouldn't do it but a little got more and more. My old man is real motherfucker. Gonna kick his ass down the road.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Like I'm hearing this, I'm like, this band is dangerous, I like this. Yeah, that's part of the appeal. And that's one of the reasons I like Ozzy Osbourne as well. Yeah, sorry, talk to me about Paranoid. This song also makes me feel like kicking garbage cans. Jumping off fire hydrants, that kind of thing. I like it because it's a big boost of energy.
Starting point is 00:47:40 This is the kind of music you listen to when you're going on a run and you need that extra bit of energy at the end When you're tired Great jam Have you ever seen Ozzy Osbourne only on TV? He seems like quite a character. I'd love to see him live I don't know now, but how has he how has he not ended up at Ridley funeral home? How did he have managed to a miracle?
Starting point is 00:48:02 Reaper yeah, and his I actually once for a interviewed his, I think now ex-wife Sharon Osborne. Oh, they're not together? See, I'm so in these loops. I don't maybe, I think they were separated for a while, but she told me she described him and the way she described him was as if he wasn't Ozzy Osborne. She just said, he's really sweet. He brings me perfume and flowers and he likes to cuddle. And I'm like, wait a minute, he bites off the heads of bats. This is the, I guess, Alice Cooper's trick, right? You have a persona and I was just chatting with snow about kiss.
Starting point is 00:48:34 He was a big kiss head when he was a bit older than us and he was really into kiss. I always preface that because I feel like, like, were you a kiss fan? I wasn't, but I am now because I met Gene Simmons last year. Isn't he a jerk? No, he was the opposite of a jerk. He was like really intelligent, really informed, wanted to talk about history, politics, current affairs, and he flirted with me. So this is why I like Gene Simmons.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Would you have coffee with Gene Simmons? Absolutely. But only if he was wearing his outfit. Like when I walk into a coffee shop, I wanna make an impression. So he's gotta be wearing those boots. Does he have to wear the makeup? He has to wear the makeup, he has to have the foil. Oh, I know what you're like,
Starting point is 00:49:11 he's got that really long tongue, right? It's easier to have conversation with people who have solid tongues. They can last longer in the conversation, okay. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, by the way, there's kiss caskets, but I'm here to tell you, don't buy fucking kick kiss. Say that quickly. Kiss, kiss, kiss casket. Do again, kiss, kiss, kiss casket. That's why you're on the CBC. You know how
Starting point is 00:49:32 you do it. You think of the word in your head, you visualize the word and you're just reading it. Kiss casket, kiss casket, kiss casket. So kiss casket, uh, made in America, uh, or somewhere else, but it's not made in Canada. And I'm just wanna let you know, this is important to me, Ridley Funeral Home, all the caskets they sell at Ridley Funeral Home made right here in Canada. Okay. I think that's important.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Where is Ridley Funeral Home? 14th and Lakeshore in New Toronto. In New Toronto. You can walk there from here and say hi to Brad, okay? Yesterday I'm watching the Leaf game, game one, second round, and Sportsnet opens with a song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:08 So they do their montage at the beginning. This is like 8 p.m. And Sportsnet has a song. Okay. So, oh, I'm hearing the song. I already have it loaded up for you. I'm going to play it in a second here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And then in the arena before the anthems, they have that hype music going. It's the same fucking song. And I'm like, oh, my God, so the same song Sportsnet opens with, the Scotiabank Arena is basically opening with. And now we're gonna kick it out, you ready? Hall and Oates. Yeah. When you can talk up and hit the post on this one too.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Amazing song. Everyone loves this song. Even people who don't like Q107 like this song. I like this song. Everyone loves this song. Even people who don't like Q107 like this song. I like this song. After Welcome to the Jungle, this is the best intro song right here. It's very good. The build. Here we go! Say your prayers, it's a one Don't forget my son, to include everyone I'll tuck you in, all within Keep you free from sin, till the sandman he comes I sleep with one eye open, gripping your pillow tight.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Exit light, enter night. Take my hand, rock to Never Never Land. Enter Sandman. Tell me why you love Metallica. Oh, I mean what's to talk about? Everyone loves this song. If I'm in the washroom and I hear this song, I'm banging my head against the washroom door. Like it's that kind of song, it's invigorating, it's fun, it's uplifting, and it makes you want to get up and do things. What about those people you meet in the wild who don't like hard rock? They don't like this kind of guitar sound.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I don't understand those people. What happened to those people? Maybe they weren't exposed to, you know how you have to, there's new studies like, cause if you expose your newborn between, I think it's between six months and 12 months, if you expose them to like, I'm not a doctor. Don't fall yet. Don't follow my advice. Talk to your dog, your pediatrician or whatever. But if you expose them at the certain young period, the odds of them being allergic to peanuts is dramatically reduced. I think you need to introduce people to a hard rock sound early and then they acquire the taste and then they're ready
Starting point is 00:53:27 for Metallica. I know my nephew has a little friend who's also seven years old and he loves Iron Maiden and he wears Iron Maiden t-shirts and I'm sure I know where that comes from. But I agree. I think every child should be listening to hard rock as soon as they're out of the womb. Absolutely. I think every child should be listening to hard rock as soon as they're out of the womb. Absolutely, absolutely. I will swaddle them up and expose them to some heavy metal. These aren't my jams.
Starting point is 00:53:51 These are Randy's jams. But I think Welcome to the Jungle is better than Enter Sandman. Oh, I don't know. There's some people who disagree with you. But you disagree because you had one at seven and one at five. Well, I didn't put
Starting point is 00:54:05 them in order of preference. I put them just there. Here they are. These are all songs I love. Then why did you number them? Just so I made sure I kept a 10. Like who knows? I can't keep track. I could you know put on 15, 16 songs but I needed to number them so I knew. Who's the best goaltender still remaining in the NHL playoffs? Uh, well, I would say in the regular season, Connor Hallebuck, but in the playoffs, I don't know. I mean, Bennington was impressive in that series. Um, Stowhires has been amazing. I liked Blackwood in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, but you're two of these guys are no longer around. I mean, like, you got to live in the presence, ranty. Not in the last week. Because Bennington, who, you know, at the four nations. That was an incredible save he made at the end. He stole my heart. Yeah. In fact, I was watching that game seven, like many,
Starting point is 00:54:55 because it was three to one late, in the third for St. Louis. And I was like, I know I'm supposed to root for Winnipeg because they're based in Canada. But I felt this soft spot for Jordan Bennington where I was rooting for, I found myself rooting for him. Yeah. Well, he's a great goalie.
Starting point is 00:55:10 He's a tough competitor. I've heard he's not the nicest person, but I don't think that really matters. I'm not the nicest person. I think you're quite nice. No, I'm just nice to you. No, you have good taste in music. I think you're nice. I will go for coffee with you.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Would you? I would. If you dress like Gene Simmons. So, I said this're nice. I will go for coffee with you. Would you? I would if you dress like Gene Simmons So I said this is funny I'm talking about snow a lot today because it was just yesterday and I re listened to it anyway I fucking loved it even though he's batshit crazy. Is he? Yeah, he's about that kind of appeals to me. Well, I Think that's crazy works for me. I don't know. Will you date a married guy? No. Because Snow is married. Okay. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So married is a negative, batshit crazy is a positive. So it would be something I have to think about. They don't cancel each other out. Okay, but I was, cause he's talking about Kiss. He was in love with Kiss and he's talking about this. And I was telling him the truth, which is the, my contact at Toronto Maple Leafs baseball.
Starting point is 00:56:00 His name is Keith Stein. He owns that team. He can just call Gene Simmons and Gene answers. This is how close they are. In fact, I actually arranged for a coffee date. It was non-romantic as far as I know, but between Keith Stein and Stu Stone, who's an FOTM Hall of Famer, and Stu was reporting back on this lunch he had with Keith. And he says, Keith called up on speakerphone, called up Gene Simmons in front of Stu, and they had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Like, this is a power move. So I was thinking, oh, I think next time I have coffee with someone, like, cause I, you know, podcast prospects or whatever, I'm having a, like a, like a business date with somebody. I'm going to like call up one of the many FOTM celebrities and just have a little chat in front of them. Like, here I'm going to call up Snow for example, or I'm going to call up Randy Druzen.
Starting point is 00:56:54 And look, I can get, I don't know your number, but I would call you up and get you on the speakerphone just to show this power. And the person sitting across from you would give you a solid blank look. Like who is this? No, they don't. Who is he? Who is this man you're speaking to? Who is Randy River and what is he doing to our clothes? That's what he's saying here.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I do have a colleague who calls me Randy River. Well, in our first, obviously you've forgotten that in episode 1447, when you first visited with your bodyguard, Todd Deneau, uh, we were kind of fascinated on the who is Randy River because they were aired a lot on I think 680 CFTR when I was listening Mm-hmm, and I was like Perfect age to give a shit who Randy River was. I'm like, who the fuck is Randy River? It's a catchy name I do remember my what's he doing? You're a clothes like I'm asking these I found myself asked I had my walkman on I'd be on a bike ride. I'd be like, who is Randy River
Starting point is 00:57:48 and what is he doing to our clothes? Is there still Randy River around? No, in fact, I can't even find, so I went to YouTube to find that old ad that I have stuck in my head and I can't even find the ad. So if anyone out there can find me audio of who is Randy River radio ads of the I guess late 80s I guess is where we're at please share with me do you remember the commercial for
Starting point is 00:58:08 Palmolive you're soaking in it okay if I don't remember that I'd put a I'm dead already okay of course I remember Madge you're soaking in it huge in the in the 80s all over the place here so who is the best goalie who's still active? In your opinion? Hmm okay people are gonna spit on me for saying this but I'm keeping the faith in Halibuck. Okay that dirty Yankee okay although our goalie is a dirty Yankee too. I don't know if he's a supporter of tariffs but he is American. Well I just remember the four nations there. How's Bobrovsky, I thought he looked shaky that one of those goals, I can't remember the final goal, but I think it was a final goal that was scored on him
Starting point is 00:58:53 was weak sauce. I remember- A little bit of a knuckler, but still, you gotta stop that. Honestly, like if you'd asked me yesterday who I think the best goalie in the playoffs is, I would have probably said Bobrovsky. But after last night, I thought he just kind of looked average at points.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And I mean, there was one or two goals. I think one of the goals, I can't remember which I thought was he screened on that shot and he actually wasn't. So I think he didn't have a great outing and I hope that continues. I hope that continues tomorrow night. So we're getting to your, to the next jam. And then I'm going to ask you about some sports media personalities. Okay. Okay. into your next jam and then I'm gonna ask you about some sports media personalities, okay?
Starting point is 00:59:25 Okay. Into a paper cup they slither wildly As they slip away across the universe Balls of sorrow, waves of joy Are drifting through my opened mind Possessing and caressing me Shai kurude la la la Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world. Nothing's gonna change my world.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Randy we're slowing it down for this jam. This doesn't sound like it's your tempo, but tell me why you love Across the Universe by the Beatles. I think it's just a beautiful song that makes people reflective and kind of happy. And something just occurred to me while we were listening to it. Imagine John Lennon having sung the song dressed as Gene Simmons in full kiss regalia. What an image that would have been. Do you think that could have happened?
Starting point is 01:01:05 Had John Lennon lived, would that eventually have happened? No. It's just speculation. I don't know. I can see him hosting Saturday Night Live in the mid-80s or something and he's dressed up and Gene Simmons maybe kisses the musical guest and then as a skit for a gag. That would have been funny. That would be very funny.
Starting point is 01:01:24 In fact, I think SNL should run with this. They could do a skit, you know, with someone singing a very moving song like this dressed as Gene Simmons in Kiss. Gene's going to want them to cut a check if that happens. You know that. Okay. So the Beatles, were you raised with the Beatles? Oh yeah. The thing with the Beatles is people say they're overrated. I disagree. I think they're overplayed because their songs. Who says they're overrated? Everyone says that now.
Starting point is 01:01:50 It's fashionable. It's fashionable. Does Todd Deno say that? No, Todd would never say that. Not in my presence. I would just slap him. I actually don't think I'm hanging around the right groups or something. I feel like sometimes I'll hear somebody will say, everyone's saying this, and I'll be like, I've never heard that. Like,
Starting point is 01:02:06 people are saying that did you and even the clash said it in their song. Was it London Calling said Beatlemania is dead. That was only like 10 years after the Beatles. Beatlemania was dead. But that's different than Beatles are overrated. Okay, well, I do hear Beatles are overrated. But I think people say that because they're just overplayed. You can't get in an elevator without hearing a Beatles song, so I think that's part of the problem. But there's no denying they're just a brilliant band. And they're versatile, so versatile. You know, they can play songs like this, they can do Helter Skelter, they can do anything.
Starting point is 01:02:40 They could do anything. Tomorrow Never Knows. Yep, also a great song. Yeah, they're right. They're do anything. They could do it. Tomorrow Never Knows. Yep. Also a great song. Yeah, they're right. They're all they're very versatile. That song was from the Revolver album. And I think John Lennon wrote about it based on an experience Peter Fonda had at one of their parties on acid in a bathtub. OK, keep the fun facts coming.
Starting point is 01:02:59 You got me on the woman who struck out Babe Ruth. And I love it. I love it so much. Now there was that moment speaking of Saturday Night Live when Paul McCartney and John Lennon were both in New York and you might remember, you might have seen footage of it. You were too young to watch it. Come on, you weren't up loud up that late back then. But you'd be surprised.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Lauren, Michael, they were offering, it was a 3000 bucks or something. Yeah, for them to come down to the studio. And the legend is that they considered it. Yeah, I heard that, that they did have a phone call and then there was some logistical problem. Otherwise, I think they both would have gone down there. Because I think at that point, they were on good terms. Because as you know, Lenin and McCartney, kind of like brothers, sometimes good, sometimes not.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Sure. A similar thing happened here in the TMDS basement studio when I had this moment of I want to reunite Damien Cox and Gord Stehlik. Oh yeah. I don't really know. I've met Gord Stehlik, great guy. Damien Cox I've never met, but I did work at the Toronto Star for a summer when he was working there as a reporter.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Did you cross paths at One Young Street? I saw him in the newsroom. I never interacted with him because he was Damien Cox and I was just some newbie copy editor at the time. So we didn't, I don't think he had any time for me. I didn't ask him but I'm guessing he probably would not have had time for me. Ironic to me. Ironic? No, I know ever since Alanis Morris said ruin the word ironic I have to think about whether that's irony. It's not really irony. I was not really irony.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I was going to pick one of her songs for the 10. You ought to know. Is that? But I thought that's a girl anthem. Maybe it's not the best for the show. Would she go down on you in a theater? We all remember where we were when we learned Kurt Cobain was dead and when we first heard, will she go down on you in a theater?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Okay. Where was it? Oh yeah. So Damien Cox. So I used to have a lot of a little moment we're gonna talk about sports media personally. So Damien, you know, he was too cool for you. You're just an intern and a selfie will do for now. And then you got Gord Stelick. What are your experiences like with Gord Stelick? Oh, I thought he was very friendly. I went there. I met him. It was a tribute for Frank
Starting point is 01:05:02 Orr, you know, the sports writer, and it was at the Hockey Hall of Fame. And I met him it was a tribute for Frank or you know the sports writer and it was at the Hockey Hall of Fame and I met him there and had a really nice conversation with him. So I thought It was one of the Stalick brothers. I'm hoping it was Joe Storytellers, they've been here. They're both great storytellers, but only one of them traded quartic for a courtinal Wasn't Bob. Okay. Although he was there at the time, but okay. I apologize.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I apologize if I got the wrong Stalag. That will be embarrassing. Okay. Well, they're both great Stalag. That's for sure. So, uh, I used to book a lot more active, uh, mainstream sports media personalities. Like in the earlier days of Toronto Mike, uh, I would often have somebody who worked for TSN or somebody who worked for Sportsnet.
Starting point is 01:05:47 And at some point I got like a nasty PR email from Sportsnet telling me to stop asking. I would just gently, like very nicely ask if they wanted to come over, you know, if they said no, I left them alone. I wasn't showing up outside their house, you know, throwing eggs at their home or anything like that. It was very polite and civil and respectful and not even that persistent to be honest. I just asked, what was the issue? Why would they have an issue with that?
Starting point is 01:06:14 They said, come to us and tell us who you want to talk to and we'll, we'll discuss it with them and decide if it's appropriate or whatever. But here's that story, which I don't know if I've shared that story, but I've teased it a lot of time. It really took a lot of the wind out of my sails when it came to talking to active members of Sportsnet. Okay. Cause this email came from Rogers Sportsnet PR, but the woman who sent it and copied all these people on it, this email I got ready for this Damien Cox's daughter. It was Damien Cox's daughter who sent out that email? Correct. Oh. Rogers Sportsnet PR. You need to take that up with Damien. I did. We've had many. He's been over a
Starting point is 01:06:56 few times since then and I joke with him about it. But sometimes I you know I've I've gravitate. What I've done is I pivoted. Okay. So it became less fun to have active sports media people who are like, I hate to say it, but these cable companies and I know I am here with CBC and you're doing your thing. And did you need permission to come here? No. Okay. But just so you know, CBC always says yes.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I had Devin Haro over like, I saw that. Yeah. Like he went through, he asked permission. I feel like this is the Amanda Lang rule like the CBC people have been told you need to ask permission but they're always getting it like but I think it's it's probably they're probably more strict with on-air people like I'm they've never said no yeah I've never said no so every mean Dwight Drummond oh yeah Dwight I've worked with him he's a nice guy you know that I find that personally in my experience at PR people can be a nuisance
Starting point is 01:07:46 like when I'm when I'm researching my books and I want to talk to like for example when I wanted to speak to Mark Andre flurry, right? I had to go jump through hoops through the PR I ended up getting him but sometimes they're sort of more of an obstruction than a help more of a hindrance than a help Randy you're singing my song here. Okay. Yeah hundred percent more of a hindrance than a help. Randy, you're singing my song here, okay? 100%, this whole idea that this person who has a full-time job for you, you somehow own their time,
Starting point is 01:08:11 and you'll basically tell Toronto Mike he's not allowed to talk to this person, and instead of this person who isn't an adult, being responsible for the words they say into a microphone, I mean, people know how to be careful and how to, like if there's a topic you're not allowed to talk about, you know what you can say to me? I'm not allowed to talk about that.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And guess what I do? I rough you up. Yeah, I don't, I don't rough you up, but. Well, here's the thing. I mean, you would think it would be good for them. You know, it's good exposure. They have their personalities out on another platform. Like why not?
Starting point is 01:08:44 Of course. It's not like I don't know, I don't know gotcha stuff going another platform. Like, why not? Of course. It's not like I, I don't, I don't know, gotcha stuff going on here. We're just having a nice conversation. But what I, what I did is I gravitated, I stopped, I lost interest in having on, I have funny thing is that Moose Grumpy mentioned Elliot Friedman who did come on the show.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Elliot's been in the basement for a long conversation, but it was like a decade ago or something because now I don't even bother with the people I see on Sportsnet or the people I see on TSA. I don't even bother. I would rather, I'm at a point now where I would rather talk to Brendan Canning from Broken Social Scene. I'd rather talk to later this afternoon, Meno Versteeg from Colorado. Like I am going to have Ron Hawkins back from lowest to the low in
Starting point is 01:09:26 about a week or so. I get my kicks out of a snow versus having on somebody who works at TSN or sports. And so I basically did this bit of a pivot, like I'm still talking to people from different areas, but I don't even bother with somebody I see on sports net because it's not to me, it's just not worth the hassle of having to go through some PR person who needs to justify their existence by saying no to fiercely independent podcasters like me. Why not just go around them? That's what I do and run around PR. I mean, that's what I would.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Yes. And back in the day I used to, you can do that now using social media. But now I think a lot of these Bell Media employees and these Rogers employees have been Warned basically like you need to do this and I think they're so scared for their jobs now like nobody's safe Right, you know Bob McCowan can be fired on cherry can be fired. There's there is no more of this. Oh I'm popular. Oh, you know, Jeff Merrick can be fired, right? Yeah bumped into Jeff. He worked at the CBC So I'm getting Canada show I did cross paths with him, but I don't really know him that well, or at all. But my point is, there's a guy who was popular, good at his job, and something happened and he was gone. But the point is, nobody's safe. So why would you risk it? Why would you risk this rare media job that pays an actual paycheck?
Starting point is 01:10:43 Why would you risk it by coming over to Mike because he's got fresh craft beer, because he's got delicious palma pasta, Toronto Maple Leafs book, the baseball team, he's got the measuring tape, he's got the wireless speaker. I will tell you that RecycleMyElectronics.ca is where you go, Randy. If you have old cables, old electronics, old devices, you go to Recycleelectronics.ca, put in your postal code, and find out where to drop it off to be properly recycled. I'm gonna pick up the sports media after this jam, okay? This is the anti-penultimate jam. You ready? I am. From Some other British band. Sounds vaguely familiar. I forget their name. I like this opening in the headphones.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah. It's more vivid when you have it on. Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste I've been around for a long, long year Stole many a man's soul and faith I was around when Jesus Christ Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure the pilot The Rolling Stones! Isn't that a great song? Yes. It really is a great song and I remember the first time I saw The Rolling Stones in
Starting point is 01:12:38 concert, Mick really delivered on this tune and that's why I chose it. And plus it has all these great historical references. No, fucking great song of course. It was on Hot Rocks for God's sake. That was my go-to Roland Stones. I remember Hot Rocks. I actually had the vinyl and I remember trying to clean the vinyl stupidly with a cotton ball dipped
Starting point is 01:13:01 in rubbing alcohol. Did not work out well. You know what? You live and learn, right, Randy? Yeah, I've learned. That's an Atlanta song. You live, you learn. Yeah, and that's not, there's no irony in that title.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Don't you think? Okay, I'm actually going to get back to that sports media thing, but I'm going to name the NHL matchups and you can, you don't even have to focus on goalies, even though you have two wonderful books that people can still buy. One is called Between the Pipes. The other is called Behind the Mask. Where would you send somebody to buy it? I can't remember what you said last time.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Um, well it's everywhere. You know, Indigo, Amazon. Like City TV. City TV? Everywhere. Oh, right. No, I don't have my books at City TV. But they're everywhere online.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Although I did have a problem at Christmas that Amazon ran out of copies, they ran out of stock just before Christmas. So that was not a pleasant experience. No, what are you going to do? Do you do pre-orders? What happens there? Get the money, take the money and run? To be honest, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I was on the phone with my publisher going what the hell's going on Christmas is in ten days and people can't buy My book on Amazon so you'll have hockey fans and they're good gifts at home Yeah, so I'm directing people to indigo, you know, does anyone write more? Does that indigo is a good place to go? Does anybody write more hockey books than Todd to know? Todd's written some fabulous books and people are still commenting to me like when I tell them I'm friends with him they're like oh I love that book you know I love the Jacques Plante book and in fact I used the Jacques Plante book to research the Jacques Plante chapter before I even knew
Starting point is 01:14:36 who Todd was. That's a mind blow right there. Yeah. Carolina Hurricanes versus the Washington Capitals who's gonna win this series? I'm gonna go with Washington because of Ovi. He's on a mission and he's hard to stop when he's on a mission. Putin could stop him. But Putin won't stop him because Ovi and he are tight. Right, good point. Edmonton Oilers and Vegas Golden Knights. Again, Conor McDavid on a mission. So I'm putting my bet on Conor McDavid and the Oilers. And Dry Cytl is nothing to sneeze at either. You like the Europeans, I noticed.
Starting point is 01:15:19 I do. I do. I'm catching on here. Ovechkin, Dry Cytl, Hasek. The best goalies in the league now? Most of them are European. And back in the day, it goes into the 90s. Most of them were Canadian goalies. All they had was Archer's Urbe. Archer's.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I remember there's no H. No, I think I said Archer. I recorded it. We'll play it back. Who is going to win Panthers versus Leafs? Leafs are up 1-0. This could go either way. I mean, people who thought... there was people early in the game yesterday saying, Oh, they're gonna do it, they're gonna get rid of the Panthers. And I'm like, are you insane?
Starting point is 01:15:53 The Panthers are not gonna roll over. They're not gonna sweep the Panthers. They're gonna... if the Leafs are lucky enough to beat the Panthers, it's gonna be in game 6 or 7. It's not gonna be an easy battle. No, nothing comes easy against the Stanley Cup champions okay stars versus Jets I have to go with the Jets otherwise my cousins will disown me I have a huge extended family in Winnipeg plus you saw how that game ended the other night I did 1.6 seconds yeah I was watching. I was watching and I was watching with my 11 year old who he had never witnessed. Like that was like the first time he saw such a significant
Starting point is 01:16:32 goal at like that time in the clock. And he was amazing. Screaming. He was screaming. It was like, it was amazing. I just in the leafs did that. You know what I'm hoping for? My wish is a Leafs-Jets final. I would love that. And I've already told my cousins, if it happens, we don't talk until the series is over. Well, that's good for you and your cousins. But in this household, there is a wish
Starting point is 01:16:55 that it will be a Leafs-Oilers final. That would also be amazing. An all-Canadian final would be great for all Canadians. And maybe not so much for Gary Bettman, but for the rest of us. I don't. I don't know. I'm not gonna get political. I kind of started this on with snow yesterday and I found out we don't align but that's okay. Not everybody aligns with my radical thoughts here. But who cares about Betman? Who cares about American viewership? Who gives a fuck about
Starting point is 01:17:20 whether they like our bands or not? Like we're Canada, baby. I agree. And it's our sport. It was our sport. Well, we won that four nations. Okay. We thank God best on best. It's most often than more often than not on the men's side, at least. I mean, the women split it with the Americans, of course, but on the men's side, more often than not in recent history, when it's best on best,
Starting point is 01:17:45 Canada wins. That's true. We won that thing that Marchand had that winning goal. I can't remember what that was. A World Cup, I guess. So, so the most recent one just happened with McDavid getting the winner. Good pass from Mitch Marner. And wasn't that Matthews? We won the one before that was like a, was a World Cup that we won. I remember Crosby and that's when they put McDavid on some kind of under 25 team or some kind of young guns or something like that. But we won that and we won Sochi. We won Whistler, I guess not Whistler, why am I calling that? The Vancouver Olympics in 2010 with the golden goal. So we did not win 2006 but we did win 2002. so most more often than not Randy when it's best on best men's hockey Canada prevails it's true
Starting point is 01:18:29 But the other thing is other nations are posing more of a threat now than they would have even you know 20 or 30 years ago like hockey is really coming up in some of those European countries where You know in the past it was like they'd have one or two good players the Czechs or the Russian now they have like half the team plays in the NHL so that's the difference but my feeling about that Four Nations Cup was how much did you hate the Kachuk brothers after that tournament? I hated them quite a bit. I still hate them the hate has carried over. We can't go rid of them we have to take them out one at a time. Brady's gone. And then you saw, you saw Domi lay a huge hit on Kika Chuck yesterday and I was not sad about it.
Starting point is 01:19:11 No, no tears were shed. Okay. We're going to, this is the penultimate jam, but I'm going to shout out Nick Ienies and his wonderful podcast, Building Toronto Skyline. We referenced one Yonge Street just a moment ago because you were at the Toronto Star with Damien Cox and that geographical footprint is going to be home to the tallest skyscraper in the country. One Young Street, it's going to be 105 floors. The penthouse is going to be the same height as the CN towers observation deck And we dove into this with the people making it pinnacle. I believe is making it
Starting point is 01:19:50 Uh, this is an episode of building toronto skyline with nick. Ienies. Yeah, 105 floors. Is it residential? Yeah, who is going to want to live on the 105th? I asked the guy what it goes for because it's still available the penthouse 105th floor 30 million's still available. The penthouse, 105th floor, 30 million bucks, still available. Do you have any interest? Yeah, I can put down a down payment tomorrow on my CBC income. Thankfully for you, the Liberal Party won this election. So I won't lose my job.
Starting point is 01:20:17 So you won't lose your job. Yes. Okay. Penultimate jam, about to kick it, but a little sports media talk here, because Snow, it's all about Snow today, Snow tells me that he is cousins with Steven Page, a founder of Bare Naked Lady, no longer in the band, but of course, responsible for many of their great hits. We love Steven Page on the show. Did you know Snow was Stephen Page's cousin?
Starting point is 01:20:46 No, I had no idea. When you listen to this episode yesterday, you'll learn that according to Snow, his cousin Stephen Page said that one week, which was the Bare Naked Lady song to go number one on the Billboard Hot 100, it was there for one week appropriately enough, was basically emulating Informer, which went to number one for 14 weeks. Not a ripoff, but stylistically a copy. This is according to Snow, who said he got it from Stephen Page, his cousin. That's a fun fact.
Starting point is 01:21:18 But I can tell you another cousin of Stephen Page is Steve Simmons. What do you think of Steve Simmons as a sports media personality? I love his writing. He always has great insights. His columns always generate buzz and he was really generous with me. Like he helped me and supported my book in my publicity efforts when the book came out behind the mask. I like Steve Simmons. Yeah and he was, I had a book launch party for like for media and I invited him and I had some friends there too and they were in awe. They're like,
Starting point is 01:21:48 is that Steve Simmons in the corner? Oh my god, can I talk to him? I said, well he does talk so why not try it. Yeah Steve Simmons is a big deal. Yeah he's great. Okay so he's kind of a fixture. We mentioned Damian Cox but there's another guy I was gonna ask you about. Berger. Now, Howard Berger has left the mainstream media game because he is no longer well many, many, many moons ago. He left 590, the fan, and now he works for a not for Ridley Funeral Home. He works for a different funeral home. I heard that. Yeah, this is like his full-time job and he blogs on the like he blogs on the side because it's a passion to write about sports and he
Starting point is 01:22:25 enjoys doing that. Have you ever met Howard Berger? No, I haven't met him but I have met his copy because when I worked at the National Post I was a copy editor in the sports section and I think he was writing for the post occasionally. So I did copy edit some of his stories but I never actually met him. I have it on good authority that Howard Burger is looking to date. Would you? Would you? I follow him on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:22:53 He's a little thirsty. Okay. But he's got a job. He's got a good job. He enjoys. He loves hockey with great passion. Would you go for coffee with FOTM Howard Burger? Well, I'm in a situationship right now.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Oh, that's right. It's confusing. I'm kind of committed to my situations. Okay, this is important detail for Howard Burger and other eligible males listening right now. So you're not available right now for coffee dates of a romantic nature. Correct.
Starting point is 01:23:22 It's gonna be platonic if you meet someone for coffee. Unless it's Gene Simmons. Well, you can't say that. Then I will's going to be platonic if you meet someone for coffee. Unless it's Gene Simmons. Well, you can't say that. Then I will ask him to marry me. So what is it that makes, can you tell me why this relationship you're currently in is complicated? Is he dating other people? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:23:38 But maybe. I hope not. Okay. Have you ever had that conversation? Like when does it, I don't know because I haven't been available in a while, but like when do you decide as a couple that we are now exclusive? My daughter was just telling me she dated a guy for a couple of months. It just ended in Montreal and she was telling me that they were not, even though they didn't
Starting point is 01:23:57 date other people, they were not exclusive. Like they were allowed to date other people. And I was thinking like, like, is it like when you watch like Happy Days, and then they say, Okay, let's go steady, like when in a relationship, do you have that conversation, which is let's be exclusive? Well, I know when I get there, because the guy usually gives me his letterman jacket. And I'm like, Oh, okay, well, I'm wearing his I'm wearing his jacket. Ralph Malfoy, do that exactly or potsy. Potsy was better looking than Ralph Malf. It's true though, it is a complicated issue. And I guess different couples approach it
Starting point is 01:24:29 in different ways. So this gentleman, it's a man you're with, right? And this gentleman, I don't know. Yes it is. I don't make assumptions in 2025, but this gentleman and you are, how long have you guys been seeing each other? I'd say like five or six months.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Okay, okay. And it's complicated because Because he doesn't live in Toronto. Whoa. Yeah. How far away does he live? I can't tell you. You don't have to tell me where like is it are we talking about a drive? We're talking like two hours. In a car? Yes. Took you two hours to get here today Randy. No it took me 45 minutes. That's not so bad. Oh, so you don't see each other as often as you'd like maybe because of geography. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I'm going to ask you more questions after the recording, but let's get to your penultimate jam. You ready? I am. Love this. We come from the land of the ice and snow, from the midnight sand to the hot spring and the road. Come along the coast, we'll drive our ships to new land. Fight the hold, sing and cry, Valhalla, I am coming. Talk to me about your love for Led Zeppelin. I really love Led Zeppelin. There's very few Led Zeppelin. I really love Led Zeppelin.
Starting point is 01:26:05 There's very few Led Zeppelin songs I don't like. I had a hard time choosing my favourite. But I like this one because I remember... First of all, they played at all the hockey games. I'm sure you've heard it. I remember once having this... At the time it was an iPod. I had an iPod.
Starting point is 01:26:22 I was walking home from work in a snowstorm and this song came on and I just had this blast of joy where I was just standing on a corner with the wind and the snow blowing in my face listening to the Immigrant song and I'm like, I love life. It was so much fun. So invigorating. I'm going to share with the listenership that your original list of songs included repeat songs from certain artists. We won't name, but Led Zeppelin is one of them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:50 But I sent it back. I rejected it and I said, I don't want repeat artists. You wrote, I don't like whole lot of love and I won't subject my listeners to it. I actually prefer that song to this one. So I feel like this is our, so far I'm looking at your list and I actually do like all the songs you've chosen But I don't really love Led Zeppelin like this song. I don't really love. Oh really? I don't hate it I've never in my life this song. I've never in my life purposefully played it. Oh, I played all the time You know what? It's better. It's your number two song. It's kind of like
Starting point is 01:27:24 played it. Oh, I played all the time. You know what it's better. It's your number two song. It's kind of like you're lying on the couch, kind of falling asleep and the song comes on and you're awake and you're ready to run a marathon. Like that's the effect the song has on you. No, it's a big song. It was in School of Rock as I remember. Like it's a big fucking jam. Of course, immigrant song from Led Zeppelin. A lot of love. Yours truly, like I don't know how long a list I'd have to get to to get to a Led Zeppelin song. Like it would be maybe my top 10,000 songs. Really? Yeah. What about um... Well we can't be clones of each other. Lemon song. Sing it for me. I know the lyrics. I had Led Zeppelin 4. Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg. Like every guy loves that song. At least that's the way it was in high school. like every guy loves that song. At least that's the way it was in high school.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I've only ever owned one. I owned Led Zeppelin IV on CD. I bought it in high school and I liked Black Dog. Yep. I liked Rock and Roll. Of course I loved, I did like Stairway to Heaven. I liked how it was like this operatic thing and it had these different tones.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Here's a problem with Stairway to Heaven though. Remember those dances you have in middle school? Yeah, it gets fast. It's a slow dance and you break away and it's a fast dance and you come back together. It's very off-putting. I agree with you. That's a dance song. Yeah, because you want songs. The one I always remember was Lady in Red by Krista Berg. Like these are the jams we need because we can press against the girl. Yeah, but not that one. Not that one. It was a popular... Complete and utter love. by Krista Berg. Like these are the jams we need because we can press against the girl. Yeah, but not that one. Not that one. He was a popular... He was an utter love. I remember thinking he's milking cows. Like why is he talking about utters?
Starting point is 01:28:53 Oh, right. Okay. I do have a good Led Zeppelin story for you. Yeah, let me hear it. When I lived in the Czech Republic, Robert Plant and Jimmy Page came to perform. And my at the time George who I've mentioned said to me don't get excited It's not gonna be zeppelin zeppelin. It's gonna be like acoustic zeppelin like unplugged zeppelin. No quarter Something something very mellow. So we went beforehand We had dinner we smoked a joint and I was ready to mellow out to Led Zeppelin and I get there and the first song Was rock and roll and it was zeppelin zeppelin. It was just overwhelming. So it was, and it was one of the best concerts. That's when you need your Coke. You need to snort your Coke.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Yeah. I should have brought my cocaine with me. What was I thinking? I can't believe you. So you did try it the one time and then you said your heart rate. Yeah. I just felt like, I just felt out of sorts. I felt like my heart was pounding. You didn't snort it. You put it in your... You know what? I don't remember. Maybe it's twice I did it. There was no Google back then.
Starting point is 01:29:49 I feel like I'd be the guy who Googles, how do I do cocaine? Yeah, there was no Google then. The reality is I think I'm the worst person to try cocaine because I'm hyperactive to begin with. Yeah, me too. So the cocaine will just make it 10 times worse. Welcome, yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:30:03 I can't do any uppers because I'll be through the fucking room. And then you won't sleep for five days. So, but I will say that concert by Robert Plant and Jimmy Page was one of the best shows I've ever seen. Well, you're a huge Led Zeppelin fan. Big, big Led Zeppelin fan. I know, and you're not alone.
Starting point is 01:30:17 There's cover bands, Led Zeppelin cover bands, and I drive around the city to see them. I would argue knowing you as well as I do now, this is our second time together, and this time your bodyguard's not in the room. I can tell you there's probably only one band you like more than Led Zeppelin, am I right? I would say it's a tie. A tie? It's a tie. That's like one A and now I'm going to kick out one B and then we're going to talk about this band. You ready? Yep. Ahhhhhhh! You say I can't get there from here baby Then I don't care where I'm going Here's to your thin red line
Starting point is 01:31:21 Ooh, I'm stepping over But you never missed me till I got a bad city address. Non-stop talker, what a rocker. Blue eyes, murder in a slash five dress. Change, nothing's staged the same. Unchained, and you hear the crowd. Randy, I think this is your anthem, Unshamed. Love, love, love that song. Doesn't it bring you joy to listen to that? It brings me joy to watch you listening to this song.
Starting point is 01:31:55 God, I love this song. I have a story about this one too. This is the moment. I want to hear why you chose this particular Van Halen song. Tell me your story, tell me about Van Halen. And then I have someone on the live stream this particular Van Halen song. Tell me your story. Tell me about Van Halen. Well first. And then I have someone on the live stream who has a message for you. Oh, well you have to go to, go to YouTube, put in the words Van Halen, 1981, Oakland
Starting point is 01:32:16 Unchained, and you'll see this concert footage. And it starts with David Lee Roth jumping off a drum riser. Well he used to do those aerial splits. Yeah, it was amazing. I mean when I was a teenager I was like, oh my god I need to marry this man. Like it was amazing. But I saw them, they played in Ottawa in I think it was 2012. The band got back together and they played around Canada. When you say band you mean David Lee Roth? With Van Halen. It was 2012. I couldn't find anyone to go with me in Toronto, but I found
Starting point is 01:32:50 someone to go with me in Ottawa. It was a younger brother of a friend. We went to the concert. We were in nosebleeds. I was depressed listening to Cool in the Gang, which opened. And then someone tapped me on the shoulder when I went to the washroom and said, Hey, I'm with the band. Do you want to come down and get seats like next on the shoulder when I went to the washroom and said, hey, I'm with the band. Do you want to come down and get seats like next to the stage? I thought he was joking. I thought maybe he was going to... This is what it's like to be an attractive young woman.
Starting point is 01:33:14 First of all, not young. I'll just put the record straight there. But I think it's because I was wearing my Van Halen vintage Van Halen t-shirt. So I went with my friend and we were like five rows back from the stage. This thing you're describing doesn't happen when dudes go to these shows alone. They don't have that moment. It's really this phenomenon of like, hey, come by the stage, is an attractive woman thing. I think what happened was when I got to this section with my friend, I looked around and I thought, a lot of these women look like truckers. So maybe they just wanted to mix it up, you know, have like a wimpy woman in there.
Starting point is 01:33:50 So that was what I did. But they didn't know you knew your martial arts or what is that martial art that you know? I know so many. Really? Yeah. We're going to fight after this. Okay. I'm really into kickboxing.
Starting point is 01:34:02 I'm into kickboxing and I am wearing sneakers. So I'm ready. But I'll tell you that they were playing the song Unchained on stage and I was jumping up and down for I don't know, three minutes, however long. I had to ice my knee the next day. Like that's how much I enjoyed the song. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Wow, I won't ask any further questions about why you're icing your knees after that show. Okay. I was jumping up and down. Okay, so you say. East York John is on the live stream, live. knees after that show. Okay. Oh, I was jumping up and down. Okay, so you say. East York John is on the live stream, live.torontomike.com and he, I'm gonna read a verbatim. Music recommendation for Randy's teenage self.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Check out David Lee Roth's coming out of retirement concert. It's online from last Saturday in Maryland. No jumping aerial splits anymore, but all the Diamond Dave entertainment value and his Van Halen hits. Oh, that does appeal to me. I'm a huge, I'm a huge East York John loved your concert story from, from seeing them in Ottawa. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, concert story from seeing them in Ottawa. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, I was in heaven. Want me to find out if East York John is available?
Starting point is 01:35:08 I can only have one situation ship at a time. I know, I know, but I feel like it's on limited time here. I feel like it's only, you know, you'll be letting me know. You just, how about this? Let me know when you're single and we'll see if any FOTMs want to meet you for a very public coffee, a very like a little coffee. I'll come back.
Starting point is 01:35:28 I'll call. You'll get a text from me saying I'm heartbroken and I'm ready. I'm ready to come on the show and talk about my heartbreak. For you, does Van Halen have to have David Lee Roth on lead vocalist? Yes. Yes. I don't like Van Hagar. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I went to see Van Halen in 2004, 2006, I can't remember, and Sammy Hagar was fronting the band. He was singing these classic Van Halen songs in Bermuda shorts and sandals. Like that's not the way you deliver Van Halen. Did you ever see Gary Sharon at the helm? I didn't see him in person, but I saw enough not to see him in person. Am I missing anybody? Is there another lead singer? Um, I don't remember. There's so many, but let's face it, David Lee Roth is the best. I don't think anyone's gonna be there. Again, I'm not a big Van Halen head either. These are, but, but what am I doing? I know when I, what about running with the devil? It doesn't move you.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yeah. So there are early big song, you know, one of the biggest hockey anthems we have, jump. Yeah jump is like because there's no guitar You need is overrated. It's a little guitar. There's a bit too much synth. They're pop Um, is that too? Is that too spoonish? No It's like the bronze key beat no, it's um, which Scotiabank has ruined. I think the bronze keep no I don't I don't really love jump jumps a good song, but it's um... Which Scotiabank has ruined, I think, the bronze keep being... No, I don't really love Jump. Jump's a good song, but it's too poppy. You need to go with the first album.
Starting point is 01:36:50 You know, Atomic Punk, Ain't Talkin' About Love, Running With The Devil... Hopper Teacher I love. Hopper Teacher's not bad. I know a lot of men love that video. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know what? I love my visits from Randy Druzen.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Is it Druzen? Am I saying it right lutely. You know what? I love my visits from Randy Druzen. Is it Druzen? Am I saying it right? It is. Until my situationship becomes a marriage and then who knows what my name will be. Is that the hope here? No. So again, I kind of have an idea of your vintage
Starting point is 01:37:17 and your state in life. Do you have any children? No, but I have what I call a nephew son because my brother is a single dad and so I'm helping him co-parenting raising my nephew, which is why I coach the hockey team. We learned a lot about you today. Yeah. Okay, but you're hoping, so if you did meet Mr. Wright, you wouldn't settle down with
Starting point is 01:37:39 Mr. Wright? Like you don't want to be living with a guy for the rest of your life? I would like to be dating someone seriously, but living on my own. I don't want razor stubble in my bathroom sink. I'm used to not having it there. Put it that way. And snoring is always a problem. I don't snore, but I'm also unavailable, so our coffee will be platonic.
Starting point is 01:38:02 I'll accept that. And that brings us to the end of our 1,686th show. Did you have a good time? I did, I had a really good time. Can I shout out your books one more time? Please do. Between the Pipes, that's the first one, and then there's a sequel called Behind the Mask. And if you like
Starting point is 01:38:25 hockey, if you love goaltenders, these are the books you gotta buy. Randy wrote them, they're great and hopefully Mr. Stolarz is feeling okay. Hopefully he's Joe Cochran and he's feeling alright. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. You got your beer? Yeah. Palma Pasta, Don't Leave Without Your Lasagna. Monaris, you got your speaker?
Starting point is 01:38:56 I do. Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, you got your book? I do. And? And your Ridley Funeral Home measuring tape? Yep. And of course, you know, go to RecycleMyElectronics.ca, subscribe to Building Toronto's Skyline. And Nick Gainey has a new podcast called Building Success. And I got to say, I usually say tomorrow our guest is, but it's actually later today, this afternoon, Mino Verstieg from Colorado is going to drop by before his hockey game.
Starting point is 01:39:28 3.30 on the livestream. See you all then. Go Leafs Go!

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