Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Rob Preuss Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1104

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

In this 1104th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with keyboardist extraordinaire Rob Preuss about the ten jams that shaped him. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Pal...ma Pasta, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Starting point is 00:01:19 Over 100 stores across the country. Learn more at cannacabana.com. Today, in person, in the flesh, to kick out the jams, is keyboardist extraordinaire Rob Pruce. Rob, nice to finally meet you. Nice to meet you in person. I feel like we've been friends for a while, and it's wild when you meet somebody in person. Like you mean like a real life person? Yeah, like you're really there. I can reach out
Starting point is 00:01:49 and touch you. Zoom doesn't count, right? No. I mean, like even meeting you on Zoom for the first time, I was like, I feel like I know you already. Right. But you were 1D, 2D, whatever that is, right? Listen, man, this has been a long time coming. An extra half hour? I'm overwhelmed actually. Yeah. And you made it go another 30 minutes but like i'm overwhelmed right now so i'm gonna start by just telling people about the last two times you appeared remotely from new york city right queens new york queens okay close enough okay how queen is new york city yeah because they're the beastie boys told me there's the five bros okay in this 952nd episode mike chats with rob pruse rhymes with zeus who joined the spoons when he was 15 years young i'm actually gonna pause my sentence right there because i'm
Starting point is 00:02:36 gonna start a jam in the background here okay here we go who joined the Spoons when he was 15 years young, and it was part of their glory years. We talked about Nova Heart, romantic traffic, Toronto Rocks, his time with Honeymoon Suite, his love of musical theatre, his relationship with Carol Pope, fellow FOTM Carol Pope, and more. with Carol Pope, fellow FOTM Carol Pope, and more. We talked for a good 90 minutes. And then, Mr. Pruce, I enjoyed the experience so much.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I said to the guys, I said, Brother Bill, Cam Gordon, I need an excuse to bring Rob back on the program. Let's do another PPMM. And then we recorded a progressive past of Modern Melodies. And you were our special guest as we dove deep into the history of new wave music in Canada. That episode was ready for this. Two and a half hours long.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Was it? We were just getting started. So Rob, how the hell are you? I'm good. I'm really good. I will shut up because I'm tired of my own voice. Give us, when did you arrive in Canada? I crossed the border last night at 9 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Peace Bridge. I don't like crossing to the Peace Bridge. But you got by. They let you in. I got by. Actually, the guy, the border guard, saw me with Honeymoon Suite when he was in grade 5. Are you kidding me? That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:00 He was looking at my passport. Well, I mean, not that I look like I looked in 1986. But he's like, what do you got in the car? I said, I got some stuff, some gifts for my sister. I have a keyboard in the back. And then he sort of looked. He's like, what do you do for a living? I said, I'm a musician.
Starting point is 00:04:13 He's like, you ever played in any bands? And I didn't think it was going to go where it was going. And I said, oh, he's playing this band called The Spoons and a band called Honeymoon Suite. And then he was like, I think then he knew. Oh, my God. He said, I saw you guys at the Niagara Falls Memorial Center or something when he was in grade five. And I had just joined the band at that point.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So it was pretty funny because I thought, great. I was just on the phone with Anthony Petrucci. His family owns Palma Pasta and we were organizing like, okay, how's the food coming on for Thursday for TMLXX, which we'll talk about. And Anthony was telling me about how he said he remembers seeing spoons in some small club or something
Starting point is 00:04:50 like just before this song broke he says this is his memory I don't know I don't have that info Godfather on Thursday though I'll introduce you to him we'll track it down by the way since I mentioned Palma Pasta Rob you're not leaving here this might be why you made the trip to down you know we'll track it down and you're by the way since I mentioned Palma Pasta Rob you're not leaving here
Starting point is 00:05:06 this might be why you made the trip to Canada you know it what's sitting in front of me I got a large lasagna in the freezer for you that you're leaving with today and by the way
Starting point is 00:05:15 let's not waste time okay so some of those cans are cold some of them are room temperature these are fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery they look so good
Starting point is 00:05:24 so if you're going to crack it open though, do it on the mic and then I can ask you about your shirt. Are they all the same? No, I see Canuck Pale Ale. Okay, so the Canuck
Starting point is 00:05:31 Pale Ale Lager. Some Americans say Canuck and it's so weird. They don't know how to say it. I mean, the Pale Ale is fantastic, but if you're a lager guy, I don't know what you are.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm going to try the lager. Okay. No. So the lager is the other one. Yeah, so that's the Canuck. I'm going to try the lager. Okay, so on the mic though. Okay. Rob lighter okay so on the mic though okay okay rob pruse on the mic here we go and now i'm gonna crack mine open my burst
Starting point is 00:05:55 okay cheers to you rob it's about it's like is that real sound that's like the old pepsi commercials we met November 2021, but when did you discover Toronto Mic'd? It was possibly the summertime of 2021, maybe 2020 even. It was in the times of COVID, I think. And I don't remember who was the first episode I started listening to, but all of a sudden I realized, I was like, oh my God, I need to go back and listen to all these episodes. And I realized how many there were.
Starting point is 00:06:23 And I was like diving into this world that was unknown to me. And I think what I loved from the first episode I listened to was that the people you were talking to and the way you were talking about sort of Toronto and Southern Ontario sort of made me like homesick in a way. Like I thought, oh, this is my, these are my people. Because we'll talk about like, I don't know, Polka Roo or something. And you're like, oh, you know, there's no Polka Roo in Queens. No, exactly. I keep my Canadian heritage close to my people. Because we'll talk about, I don't know, Polka Roo or something, and you're like, oh, there's no Polka Roo in Queens. No, exactly. I keep my Canadian heritage close to my heart. I've been living in New York for 21 years now.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Wow. Proud Canadian the whole time. But you stay connected through Toronto Mic'd. I'm going to take credit for that. You totally get the credit. Oh my God, okay. Especially when you had Ed Conroy on. Okay, he's retro Ontario.
Starting point is 00:07:03 He sure is. And he's going to tie into something later, because I've got your jams loaded up. And one of your jams actually is going to lead to like, I'm going to surprise you with some bonus jams. Okay. And some info I learned from the aforementioned FOTM Hall of Famer, Ed Conroy. I miss him. I mean, I've never met him, but listening to him on your show and like just, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:23 sort of knowing him. Actually, he sent me, he was really nice. I reached out to him after he was on your show at one point and he mailed me a polka dot door album. He's like, he's a sweetheart. Yeah. No, he's a good boy. He moved like out of town.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He used to be in Toronto and now he's a further away, but I do bump into him now and then. Okay. So since you're a regular though, you might've heard me tell people you got to get right on that mic. So, but we can move this back. No, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, it's okay. Now I'm going to smash your teeth.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Man, okay. So I've got so many questions. Firstly, let's just talk about the t-shirt you're wearing right now. Okay, so we are going to take a photo after this, but it's Hawksley Night in Canada. Yep. Hawksley Workman has become an absolute, like a friend. He's a fantastic FOTM like yourself. I've never met him.
Starting point is 00:08:05 So how do you score that t-shirt? Like how did you get introduced to Hawksley Nightingale? Through you. Okay, he owes me a commission. I mean, really, it was an episode or two that you had done with him. Did you do a Christmas show with him? You did like, there was...
Starting point is 00:08:18 Okay, we had an open Zoom and he was part of that open Zoom, I think. I think that's how embedded he is in the FOTM. Well, it was a show that he did on his own with you. Oh. And maybe it wasn't. Near Christmas. Maybe it was a near Christmas.
Starting point is 00:08:30 But anyways, I just loved the whole conversation. It was so good to me. And I'm not that familiar with his music, but I am more familiar now. And I know he'd done work with Carol Pope as well. And they're good friends. And she's mentioned him over the years. But then I went to his website and I saw this shirt.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I was like, I need that shirt. So I ordered the shirt. You're getting an exclusive here, Rob, but we came this close. Hawksley wanted to start a podcast called Hawksley Night in Canada. I was going to produce it. The reason it never happened was because he has a fear of getting cancelled for being like
Starting point is 00:09:01 not that he's going to do anything. He's like a reasonable progressive man but like he's so afraid of what he might say on an open mic like every week on his show
Starting point is 00:09:11 he shut it down because he was afraid like if he was unfiltered Huxley Workman could get himself cancelled he would be amazing I know and that's no way to live
Starting point is 00:09:19 you can't live with fear no I know you know well hey I gotta say if I think about Huxley workman if i think about rob pruse who i'm meeting now for the first time and then i'm also gonna throw another guy in this pile blair packham yes these are three people i only met when they came over to be guests on my show
Starting point is 00:09:35 who have become buddies uh i mean two of you are going to be involved on thursday which we'll talk about later at tmlxx but like you, it seems to me, sort of like Tyler Stewart of the Barenaked Ladies, a band I'm going to see tonight. Amazing. So after I record with you, we take our photo, I post it, I jump on my bike and I go to Budweiser's stage. But these are the people who get it. I mean, there's so many more people, but
Starting point is 00:09:57 if you get it, you get it. Rob, you get it. Well, I feel like it's you just, maybe it's our nature of this this world that we live in you know and i don't know there's maybe there's something about your enthusiasm for all the things that you bring to your show that i recognize it's like like you said it feels like a kid you know i don't fake it right like if i'm not interested in a subject i don't i don't do it like i don't have people on like really it's like I'm seeking this out because I'm legit interested in talking to this person
Starting point is 00:10:26 about this subject. I'm now going to hand Rob Pruce his Toronto Mike sticker from StickerU, StickerU.com. Rob, here you go. Oh, thank you. Don't spill that beer. No. Not on the board here.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Just one? How many do you need? Can I get four? I've never done this before. Really? I really feel this warm warmly i'm bringing them back to new york that's why okay yeah four sticker you stickers just made their way sticker you is going to be at tmlx x2 of some sticker swag nice so uh that'll be cool okay so how's
Starting point is 00:10:56 your great lakes my great lakes is really good okay because they're hosting tmlxx but more on that in a moment uh actually here so i'm going to read a little quote though from a guy named cam and it's not Cam Gordon because then we're going to talk more about Toronto Mike because it's all about me and then we're going to kick out the jams or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'm on the mic. It gives me more bass in my voice. Oh yeah, you've got big balls there. I can hear them. The balls are in my headphones. Okay. Cam says,
Starting point is 00:11:17 I'm placing my order at Palma Pasta for pickup this weekend, Mike. You got my whole family hooked. We haven't found anything that comes anywhere close. Great sponsors. So Cam, thank you for the DM. And again, that's not Cam Brio
Starting point is 00:11:31 or Cam Gordon. That's a third Cam. A third Cam. That's my son would say. Mike is for microphone. Stu is for studio. Cam is for camera. Do you listen to Toast? Yes. Okay, you hesitated there. No. Do you listen to Toast? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Okay, you hesitated there. No, because I had to think it's you, Stu, and Cam. It's Pandemic Fridays. Basically, we just- The last one with the puppets? Yeah. Oh my God. You guys had me at hello.
Starting point is 00:11:57 It was so good. What are your favorite cartoon or puppet jams? Putting you on the spot here. Yeah, no. Sugar, sugar. That's Andy Kim. Well, Banana Splits aren't a puppet. They're not puppets.
Starting point is 00:12:10 They were dudes in costumes. But they kind of fell into that genre a little bit. That's as much a puppet as Elf. Yeah. And Kim's kicking out Elf. Elf's not a puppet. There's a guy in that suit. That's true.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But Banana Splits was the first melody, first little song I ever played on a piano when I was five. See, I feel I just missed Banana Spl banana splits because you did you're a little bit mid-70s although you look younger than me uh rumor has it you're older than me because i did the math on that one okay so that was uh yeah that was great the uh the cartoons the episode was good and then the kid the clincher at the end with fievel. I know. Oh my God. I must bury the lead here. So Fievel phones in. And yeah, that was wild.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Fievel from Fievel Goes West. Yeah. And American Tail. American, that's the big one, right? And we, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:55 we played, was it somewhere out there? And then, you know, I heard that hitch in the voice and then he talked about how, yeah. That's the cutest thing
Starting point is 00:13:03 because, you know, you think on that recording, like, God, how did they get that kid to be so cute? And you realize when you work with children, you have to just be recording at all times because you don't know what you're going to get. And then you go back after the fact
Starting point is 00:13:14 and you get the good stuff. You don't know when they're going to be cute. No, and neither do they because most of the time they're not. What other, you know, this is my first time with you to have a real conversation here. Like, what other episodes of Toronto know this is my first time with you to have a real conversation here like what other episodes of Toronto Mike
Starting point is 00:13:26 do you love like do you do you enjoy the Brother Bill Cam Gordon Progressive Past because there's so many different flavors
Starting point is 00:13:32 of Toronto Mike I'm always curious I do I love those I loved your Jeannie Becker episode okay yeah I mean I mean it's
Starting point is 00:13:39 what I like is that I can dip in to listen to people that I don't really know who they are but I know it's going to be a good conversation anyways. So, like, when I see people I recognize, I think that's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Musicians always. Okay. Dan Hill, you know this name? Dan Hill? Yeah, sometimes when we touch. How much is the honesty? It's too much. He's on my show next week. No, really? Yeah, now I i'm gonna give you
Starting point is 00:14:05 some teasers here let me go i almost met him once where did you almost meet him um i was derrick our old spoons drummer and i did some recording we were in this documentary that was made in like 2007 it was like a history of canadian pop music like the new wave 80s right and there was a like a premiere party for the for the show i was screened on cbc i think it was like a there was one done in the 70s and then then we did the 80s one amazing um but at the opening it was at god it was a bar i forget what it's called the it was a hotel was there's a hotel that's like got a bar i don't know uh not the drink no it wasn't the beverly um i don't remember because i don't know. Not the Drake. No, it wasn't the Beverly. I don't remember because I don't spend enough time here anymore. But anyways, Dan Hill was...
Starting point is 00:14:46 Gladstone. No, but maybe. What street are we on? Are we on Queen Street? Okay, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But anyways, Dan Hill was... You're like me.
Starting point is 00:14:52 You get bogged down in those details. Yeah. You're like, it doesn't matter. I'm like, it does matter. But it was the Dan Hill thing. He was there. Okay. And I saw him and I was like, there's Dan Hill.
Starting point is 00:15:00 But I didn't actually meet him. But he's a big part of my childhood. Okay, so he's a musician coming up. And I'm kind of excited about this. This is Ron Hawkins from Lowest of the Low. Stephen Stanley, who wasn't Lowest of the Low and now has his own band. And Chris Brown from the Bourbon Tabernacle Choir.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And they're all coming in, all three on the same show. In person? Yeah, in person. They're all three going to be... I don't know how I'm going to fit three here, but I'm going to figure it out. How do you decide when you're going to go in the all three on the same show. In person? Yeah, in person. They're all three going to be, I don't know how I'm going to fit three here, but I'm going to figure it out. How do you decide when you're going to go in the backyard, by the way?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Oh, that's usually, this summer it's been by request. Yeah. Oh, really? I would have requested it. Oh, okay, okay. Next time. But it was raining all day. I know.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But then it did clear up. But okay, because Roger Christian, who was on last week. Oh my God, he was amazing. Okay, yeah. You know what? I'm a little, because you know, you do an episode and there's all this feedback. Yeah. You meet God, he was amazing. Okay, yeah. You know what? I'm a little, because you know, you do an episode
Starting point is 00:15:45 and there's all this feedback. Yeah. And there's like a few notes about, like somebody even said it's the best episode he's ever heard at Toronto Mike. But I was surprised there wasn't more feedback.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I don't know if people are just behind or if you have to, but I think the Roger Christian episode of Toronto Mike is like next level. Yeah. These stories and who he is
Starting point is 00:16:04 and what he did. Well, who he is and what he's done, right? It's ridiculous. Like, I mean, in the history of pop culture and to be connected to Star Wars like that,
Starting point is 00:16:12 like, get out. Yeah, it was unbelievable. And he requested back here. He did. He looks like a really cool guy too. He looks like an old rock star. Like, you know. And he's well preserved
Starting point is 00:16:21 because the dude's 78 years old. Wow. He looks like he's like 58. Hey, do you remember Hal Harbour from CFNY? Of course. He's in the calendar later this month. Neat. That'll be neat.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Skipping over the obvious, there's a return of Farah Nasser, and there's a Gare Joyce is coming back. John Biner is making his Toronto Mike debut in September. John Biner? From Bizarre. The impressionist guy? The guy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I remember his name and I can sort of picture him in my mind. Well, I mean. From childhood. Now I'm thinking, you know, I talked about, I'm going to Barenaked Ladies and the first Barenaked Lady
Starting point is 00:16:55 I interviewed on Toronto Mike was Tyler Stewart. And he just, he was already a fan of the show. Oh, his episode was good too. He was great. Yes, he was really good. He was great.
Starting point is 00:17:03 But you know, his job, and you heard it in the episode, but his first job was like chauffeuring Super Dave Osborne around like aging court and stuff. And Super Dave, of course, I believe, he debuted on Bizarre, I believe. Yeah, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So it all comes, we're going to find out more things there. And just shout out a couple more because Steve Paikin's in the calendar. By Divine Right, Jose Contrera. Do you know his name? Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Nope. Okay. And I'll throw a couple more at you here. Actually, now we're at case. Andrew Stoughton. He's Stoughton. He's a Blue Jays writer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Lots of good stuff coming up though. Okay. You've always got good guests. Thank you. And you can count on it. Like even if you don't know who the person is, you should just tune in. Well, they passed my little acid test which is
Starting point is 00:17:46 am I interested in a conversation with this person and if it's yes but again why am I here it's the weirdest are you kidding me
Starting point is 00:17:52 why did it take so long for you to make that drive from Queens to Canada okay so we have jams and I you know I have to do something after this
Starting point is 00:17:59 so we can't talk all day about Toronto Mike but obviously as we talk just enter you know sprinkle in any anecdotes. Okay, I can tell you
Starting point is 00:18:07 why I was 30 minutes late. Yep. I want to hear it. I miscalculated where I was coming from. And how come you're not coming from Burlington? Because I,
Starting point is 00:18:15 here's what I'm doing. Next week, I'm coming back to town because I'm going to play with Rough Trade with Carol Pope and Rough Trade at the El Macombo.
Starting point is 00:18:22 How do I get a media pass? Call me. I'll cover it for you. Give me your number. Give me your details and I'll get you in touch with my people that's amazing yeah i'm creaming my jeans just thinking about it uh-huh she so i was rehearsing with um kevin staples the other half of rough trade of course never met kevin before like until this afternoon so we had a rehearsal this afternoon as place in the east end of town. You're meeting all your heroes on the same day. Seriously, it's true. Him and you. That rhymes.
Starting point is 00:18:50 But it was me and Kevin Staples and Tim Walsh, who's the guitar player as well. So we were just kind of like, you know, sketching through the songs because I've never played with them before. Kevin Hearn normally has done gigs with them, but he's not available for this Elmo gig. Probably doing, I don't know. I'm going to see him tonight so I can talk to him.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah, I'll yell at him. I'm in the 200s. Hey, Kevin, what about doing this rough trade thing? Exactly. So I miscalculated
Starting point is 00:19:10 coming from Kevin Staple's place here and I forgot how the traffic is not so good in Toronto. Coming across the city like that, it sucks here.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So because I promised Mark Wiseblood, do you listen to the Mark Wiseblood episodes of Toronto? I listened to one recently. So they're three hours long, but you you're of the opinion that the more
Starting point is 00:19:27 the merrier when it comes to Wise Blood. Okay. He said, don't forget to play this. He thinks it's a highly underrated jam. He played it when the director of Lethal Weapon passed away. Oh. Richard Donner. But you're on this particular track. That's me playing on there, yeah. That was the first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Okay. Okay. When love's alive, it sets you free. When it's gone, it's plain to see. How even love can become a lethal weapon. Wow. When you lose control and you scare yourself sometimes. This is honeymoon sweet, everybody. It sure is.
Starting point is 00:20:17 When you really don't care. Yeah. Wow. That your life is only life. Rob, what were you going to say about this jam? Lethal Weapon. Lethal Weapon. Wow. Rob, what were you going to say about this jam, Lethal Weapon? Lethal Weapon. That was the first song that I recorded with Honeymoon Suite. I had joined the band a few months before, well, like four months or so before,
Starting point is 00:20:41 but we got asked to record this song from our record label, from Warner Brothers. They wanted a label band to do this song. It was written by Michael Kamen, who did the score for the film. I believe Eric Clapton, in my memory, it was Michael Kamen and Eric Clapton wrote the song. So they sent us a demo of the song, and then we were like, really?
Starting point is 00:20:57 This? Okay. It was a ballad, balladee. But then we were working with the producer Ted Templeman. This was the first time we worked with Ted the label wanted to put us together with him and we flew down to LA this was early, like January 87 and we got a screening of the film
Starting point is 00:21:15 it wasn't quite put together we got to meet the director Richard Donner Richard Donner, he just passed away shout out to Ridley Funeral Home I'm doing your job for you thank you, I was wondering if you'd hit the beat. So we got a screening of the film and then we went into the studio and recorded the song with Ted
Starting point is 00:21:29 and it was super cool. And yeah, I think it's a great song. Like, people ask for it. I mean, I haven't played with Honeymoon Suite in several years,
Starting point is 00:21:38 but I know when I did, people always wanted to hear it and they thought it was a cool song because it's nice. Yeah. Heck, you know, and again,
Starting point is 00:21:44 we're just dedicating this jam because it's the end of the 1236 era at St. Joseph Media. So next week, so normally Mark Weisblatt visits the first Thursday of the month for three hours. But this first Thursday of the month
Starting point is 00:21:57 is TMLX Day. It sure is. So he's going to come a week later. So everybody, September 8th, Mark Weisblatt will be here for three hours. We'll find out what the hell is up with 1236. And there's a lot of Lisa Laflamme talk and John Derringer and all this stuff we got to cover. So don't you dare miss it.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Okay, let's briefly talk about TMLXX before I kick out your first jam. Okay. Are you, Rob Pruce, are you attending TMLX on Thursday night from six to nine at Great Lakes Brewery? Yes. Okay. Came up just for that. And then it turned out that I got the rough trade gig as well
Starting point is 00:22:32 and it worked out to come here. Is that true? You came up for that and then it all, so that's a karma, right? I built my life around you. Yeah. Are you, because the way it's structured is, okay, so from six to 6.30,
Starting point is 00:22:45 that's where you eat your Palma Pasta, you get your free beer, and there's a lot of chit-chat and mingling. Okay, people are like, oh my God, is that Stew Stone? You know, all that, you know, oh my God, Peter Gross is here. Are we all going to have name tags
Starting point is 00:22:56 that say hi, my name is, so we know who we are? Lieve Fumke is responsible for the name tags. So she's taking that responsibility very seriously. Cool. And she'll be all over that. Everyone gets a token for the complimentary beer from our hosts. Nice. And then after that, tags so she's taking that responsibility very seriously and she'll be all over that everyone gets a token for the complimentary beer from our hosts and then after that it's only five bucks a
Starting point is 00:23:10 beer after so uh so you start with one yeah you get one yeah and then you're on the house yeah then you five bucks a can and uh go nuts go crazy unless you're driving then don't go crazy yeah but uh the palm of past is on the house amazing Amazing. And here's my thought, Rob. At some point between 6.30 and 7, would you be able to perform something on the keyboards? Yeah. So did you want to surprise us or did you want to tell us what you're thinking?
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm not going to tell you because I have no idea. But you don't want it to be like a focused thing. You don't want everybody to turn their attention to me. I like to be the piano player who's in the corner who nobody's listening to. That's up to you. Okay. So fine. You can do that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 People can still mingle and chat. That would make me happier. I think here's, so I think, yes. So Blair Packham, he wants to focus on him. He's very different than you, Rob. Yeah. I think the plan is seven o'clock will be, so you're doing something that at 7 o'clock, I make a little speech,
Starting point is 00:24:08 but basically it's just introduced the Mind Blow competition, the inaugural Mind Blow. Did you work on your Mind Blow for the Mind Blow competition? I have some thoughts. Okay, good. But I'll have to wait and see how it's structured, I guess. Well, basically people put up their hand, FOTMs put up their hand,
Starting point is 00:24:22 and then they go to the microphone, and they deliver the mind blow. And then me, I don't even know if I'm a true judge. I think the true judges are Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. But we'll all do a little peanut gallery commentary. Like Waldorf, who are the two guys on the Muppets? Statler and Waldorf. Statler and Waldorf, right.
Starting point is 00:24:39 We'll do a little commentary on the mind blow. And at the very end of it all, we'll announce winners. Anthony Picucci from Palma Pasta will be there with a big a real prize for the winner and I think Hannah Cabana's got a
Starting point is 00:24:50 prize too. There might be two winners. It depends on how many prizes we have but that's going to take us to like seven I don't know 745 or
Starting point is 00:24:58 something. Well it depends how many people have Mind Blows. Do people have to like sign up for the Mind Blow or did they just put their
Starting point is 00:25:03 hand up? Put up your hand. Come to the mic. Deliver your Mind Blow. Then Blair Packham is going to perform a few songs. You can guess one of them. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Maybe there'll be keyboards on there. I just had an idea. There might be. There might be. The possibilities are in. So excited. And then... I played on that song, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You know what? The original. I knew that, then I forgot I knew that and that's a Mind Blow right there. Blair forgot it too. I know. Save that for Thursday night.. You know what? The original. I knew that, then I forgot I knew that. And that's a mind blow right there. Blair forgot it too. I know. Save that for Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Okay. Yeah, that's right. You know, I play on this, right, Blair? That's amazing. That's amazing. Blair's in, speaking of, again, it's all back to Barenaked Ladies because I'm seeing them tonight. But Blair Packham is one of the people you hear in that chorus during, if I had a million
Starting point is 00:25:42 dollars, if I, he's one of the voices. That's cool. isn't that a weird fun fact okay it's all tying in together what a weird world we have okay so then blair packham takes us to like i don't know 740 he's gonna take us to like 820 because he how many songs is he gonna play i think a few but he's got a good rap on him and he's a big he's an fotm who gets it so i can envision like a Wise Blood impersonation and maybe a Molly Johnson joke. Like who knows, right?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Okay. And then, and she's the best by the way. So it'll be at her expense. It'll be at my expense. Okay. So at about 8.20, I think I'm going to make
Starting point is 00:26:15 a little speech and then a surprise musician, FOTM musician is going to take us home at 8.30. Cool. With some acapella jams. Cool.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Hopefully the sun is starting, like it's getting dark at that point and it will be dark. September, yeah. It'll be, yeah, right. I just, I was just at the Pinery, which is on Lake Huron and you basically set your alarm.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You don't miss the sunsets. So it's like I'm at that beach for 8 p.m. for the sunset. So like that's the best sunsets in the province. Okay, I'm all over the place, but we're going to get to your jam. Is this going to be rain or shine too? Rain or shine.
Starting point is 00:26:47 We have a bunch of tents if it rains, but right now it looks clear and 23. Like right now it's perfect. Nice. And just so you know, because I've been warning the FOTMs, I don't want to see Canada Kev sparking up a doobie on the Great Lakes.
Starting point is 00:26:59 There's a strict no smoking policy at Great Lakes Beer. No smoking anything. You can't smoke anything, right? It's not a weed thing. No cigarettes, no weed, no vaping. And we respect our hosts, Great Lakes. They're doing a great job. We don't want to get them in trouble.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So there will be, those interested, there will be an after party at a nearby park at nine o'clock. And you can smoke as much weed as you want. Is it a walkable park? Yeah, it's walkable. Okay, that's really cool. And it's in this area, right? It's not far from here. Yeah, it's Etobicoke. This it a walkable park? Yeah, it's walkable. Okay, that's really cool. And it's in this area, right? It's not far from here. Etobicoke.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, it's Etobicoke. This is a beautiful area. 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard is where Great Lakes is and we're going to go like a titch north to Queensway. It's kind of like Royal York and Queensway, the park where we're all going to collect. Okay, that's enough about TMLXX. So glad you're going to be there, Rob.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I want to thank really quickly here. Thank Canada Cabana. We're going to see Andy, Rob. I want to thank really quickly here. Thank Canada Cabana. We're going to see Andy on Thursday night. EPRA, I have a call of them tomorrow to see what they can contribute, but they're the newest sponsors. Electronic Product Recycling Association. Good for you. Recycling your old tech.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Cliff Hacking there is going to come over and kick out the jams next month, which will be amazing. And who am I? Yeah, shout out to ridley funeral home brad jones will be there for sure i gotta tellers of the community look at you i love it i love it when there's a person who listens on the first time you said that i thought you said killers of the community well that's how they get their uh prospects i know you know that's yep everybody's gotta go sometime it's like dexter yeah and it's funny because the actor who played dexter
Starting point is 00:28:22 previously played uh david Six Feet Under, who was an Undertaker. So, look, Rob, you're blowing my mind right now. Okay. I think I'm ready to go. I'm going to ask you a very important question right now, Rob, and then we're going to get rocking here. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Are you, Rob Pruce, ready to kick out the jams? Kick them. kick em A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- I wish people could see you right now, but if I stream this on Facebook, I get hit with these DMCA... Yeah, for sure. It doesn't work right. That's why we have the pirate stream. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Ian Service, who will be there Thursday night as well. Alleycat. Talk to well. Alley Cat. Talk to me about Alley Cat. So this is Liberace. This was one of my earliest inspirations. You sort of said, put together songs that have sort of helped shape you in your life in some way. And that is a never-ending stream of music. It's nothing but music, right?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Wow. So I sort of had to find some way to focus and sort of corral it all together. And it ended up being more or less, as we go on, you'll see that it's more or less like a little bit of a focus on some of my earlier new wave stuff, which sort of felt a little bit like an extension of our progressive past
Starting point is 00:30:18 of Modern Melodies episode. Right. Because I always feel like that never ends when you start looking at a specific genre. But I decided to go back to Liberace because this was where it all began for me in terms of like listening to a record and recognizing the sound of the piano and realizing that like that's the thing i'm like when i play this piano that's a piano and i was making these connections to music on the radio and you know with records and then my mom and my grandmother took me to see liberace
Starting point is 00:30:42 at hamilton place when I was seven. So he was like just one of my early inspirations. It was Liberace. Because you lived in Burlington. Yeah. Right. And Hamilton Place was pretty new. In fact, that might have been like the first year it was open when I was seven or I think seven or eight.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah. So I've always loved that song. There's something just for me magical about the sound of that because it's got this 1950s sort of slapback echo on the piano, which is unheard of. And I don't even know when this was actually recorded, but it was on an album called Mr. Showmanship. So where would you stumble upon Liberace? Like, was it a record
Starting point is 00:31:12 in your grandmother's collection or something? Probably my mom's collection or my grandmother's collection. Yeah. And yeah, it just happened to be there. But I think that I sort of like took advantage of the record
Starting point is 00:31:24 and it became mine and i put it on all the time and then i had another one as well and then i was getting more into um like i had my earliest collection was liberace mr showmanship i had sesame street the first record i i am the sesame street generation okay so my uh what is because i had a sesame street fever what was the first one oh no Oh, no. You're way later. You look great. Am I allowed to ask your age? 56. Yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Fuck it all. Yeah, but you look great. Thanks. You know, you look as good as Roger Corman. Oh, sorry, Roger Corman. Roger Corman's a future. No, Roger Christian. Who's 70-something?
Starting point is 00:31:58 You're aging like racist. He's 78. You look as good as... Hey, listen, man. That first jam, you earned a... It's like a flashlight. Really? Ridley Funeral Home wants you to stay safe in the dark.
Starting point is 00:32:07 That's for you, Rob. Thank you. You've earned that, buddy. Amazing. Okay. This is super cool. And so you look, honestly, you look like you're in your 40s. Like, I mean, FOTMs will agree with me when they meet you on Thursday night at TMLXX.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Okay. Well, love and music has kept me young. Do you bathe in like Evian water or something? What's the secret there don't know i don't know what i'm doing wrong okay and the hair you're dying that hair oh it's totally bleached okay yeah my wife does it i can't stand it because when i when i i veer between like letting it be natural and it's your if i had to carry your color i would keep it so i have the natural highlights mine is like salt and peppery and then some parts are darker and then it just bothers cool too it's yeah but i i keep it short and then i look at it you're also you're a rock star i'm not a rock star well i got the billy idol thing going on i guess yeah i get
Starting point is 00:32:54 sick of it and then i grow it out then i get roots and you know it's a whole thing but i've lived with i've lived with bleached hair for 40 years so i'm used to it you know okay honestly you're inspiring me i want to bleach my hair now yours looks cool I like it keep mine like it is okay are you ready for your second jam yes gonna have more cowbell there it is who else is going from Liberace to Rush? me. I'll tell you all my lies. Hey, baby,
Starting point is 00:33:47 it's a quarter to eight. I feel I'm in the mood. Hey, baby, the hour is late. I feel I've got to move. Getty, Getty. Getty, Getty. I've got to shout out my buddy I'm fading on the wrong podty. I got to shout out my buddy. Oh, I'm fading on the wrong pod.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I got to shout out my buddy Hebzyman, who's a late mother who just passed away a couple of weeks ago. With summer? No. Yeah, you winter. You winter in Florida. Okay. You winter with like Getty Lee's mom.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh, cool. And he'd be talking about his son who's in this rock and roll band. Getty, Getty. Getty. Yeah, we heard that story how he got his name Getty. Amazing. From his this rock and roll band. Getty, Getty. We heard that story how he got his name Getty from his grandmother. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Talk to me about Rush. This sounds amazing. I just love this song. I think just going back and sort of building forward from the sounds of my childhood and what was sort of sparking my mind to focus on music
Starting point is 00:34:40 and listen to music. I was obsessed with the radio and listening to whatever was on the top 40. I was listening always to CKOC from Hamilton was my station. Is that 1150? 1150 CKOC, yep.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And you could call and request at 645-3281 or 547-1150 or Zenith 55100. Those were the numbers in my head forever. Do you think I'm making a mistake? Because when I did 1021 and i did 1071 and i did 1050 so 1150 it's coming up and i have no plans to do anything special because i don't know the station at all but should i be doing a special 1150 no nevin grant passed away a few years ago and he was ckoc so if you can't get him on 1150 don't bother doing it you could get some good
Starting point is 00:35:21 djs though like there were good guys from from 1150 who moved on to, like, Jim Reed from CFNY started off at CKOC. Roger Ashby started there way back in the day. Roger might have been on Chum, too, though. Well, Roger Ashby went to, yeah, he went to 1050 from CKOC. Did he? Okay. In the late 60s, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:39 But anyways, so I've always loved Rush, and I think this was, like, the first Rush song that I remember hearing on the radio when I was a kid. And I mean, they changed so much as the years went on. And this is a pretty straight ahead kind of a song. But it's just one of those songs that always, when I think of Rush and I think of my earliest association with Rush, this is the song that jumps in my head.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And if I may shout you out, Rob Bruce, because you're like, I don't know, the hundred and something person to kick out the jams. But typically I get like a DM or an email with a list of songs and I'll be like rush in the mood and then I go source them out and I load them up or whatever and then I find out they wanted
Starting point is 00:36:14 a specific live version and I'm like why didn't you just link me to the version you wanted but okay what I like what you did and I'm going to tell you but you literally put the 10 mp3s in a folder you zipped up. You numbered them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You shared the zip with me. I literally just had to unzip and load them in the soundboard. The numbers are all there. One of them I did boost, but we'll talk. That's okay. One of them I boosted,
Starting point is 00:36:36 but honestly, you went above and beyond and I want to thank you for that. You are very welcome. It was fun. And I mean, I felt the pressure because I knew I was going to be driving up
Starting point is 00:36:44 and I had to work on these rough trade songs and i had all these different things going on um and i just wanted to get those songs organized and i thought it's easier if i just make you a folder how's carol doing she's great it was such a zany fun chat i had with her yeah because her internet conked out and then we reconnected and i think i had her killer video because she was just a shadowy figure anyways on the Zoom and the internet was bad as it was. But I always felt like it was one of those episodes where at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:37:11 I thought maybe this will be one of those beers off on me, which is very few and far between. But then like the ship righted itself and it turned great. But how is she doing? She's great. I just talked to her on the phone when I was driving yesterday.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I called her up and it was so funny because I was driving and she had sent me a text message and I thought, I'm going to just call her. You know, people don't really call
Starting point is 00:37:31 out of the blue as much anymore as we used to. And I was driving and I had another friend who just moved out to Halifax and I thought,
Starting point is 00:37:37 I'm going to just call him. It seems like these days everybody's making plans to connect. How about if I give you a call around one o'clock and then you're ready for the phone call?
Starting point is 00:37:44 Right. In the old days, you had to just call the person. And if they were home, they were home. Now you get the text like, hey, available chat or whatever. It's like, why don't you just call me? Yeah. And if I'm available, I'll answer. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:53 So the new way is you just try, you say, damn the torpedoes and I'm going to call you. And then if you answer, you answer. So I called Carol. She left, I left her a message because she was on another call, but then she did call me back and I talked to her. So. And you said, Mike says hi. He's like, Mike who?
Starting point is 00:38:08 She's good though. We've been friends for like, it's around 20 years now that I ran into her in New York City. We had both just moved to New York and I was in a store and she was in there shopping and I was with a friend and I said, that's Carol Pope. And my friend said, I don't know who that is. And I said, you don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Of course, because you're American, you don't know who Carol Pope is. And so I sort of went up and I introduced myself to. And I said, you don't know. Of course, because you're American, you don't know who Carol Pope is. And so I sort of went up and I introduced myself to her. I said, you probably don't remember me, but you, and then she did remember
Starting point is 00:38:30 that we had met many years ago. Blah, blah, blah. Those Americans. Yeah. It's like you speak a different language when you speak Canadian, right? There's all these like, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:38 like what's a, what's a, what's a, what's a blue rodeo? Like what's a Jeannie Becker? What are these things? Okay. Your third jam, Rob.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Here we go. Oh, yeah. I like the slow build on this one. Somebody out there is going, oh, my God, I love this song. Because they know. It's Hoxley Workman. That's right. I hope.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Or maybe Blair Packham. guitar solo Here comes more cowbell. Woo! I'm at the top of all the charts I'm on I'm a spaceship superstar All right, what are we listening to here? Tell me, Rob. Prism, Spaceship Superstar. 1976, 77, I believe. Early days of the increasing use of synthesizers in popular music
Starting point is 00:40:59 and coming through the land of rock and roll. And every time I heard a synth on the radio, my ears pricked up. Because first it started with just piano, you know, Liberace, Elton John, whatever. Then there was electric pianos, then there were clavinets, and then synthesizers were creeping in
Starting point is 00:41:16 a little bit more and more and more. And this song has a great synthesizer solo coming up as well. So I don't think I was yet in a band at this point, but I was tuning into it, like I was getting ready for it, I think. Because I wasn't, I don't think I was yet in a band at this point, but I was tuning into it like I was getting ready for it, I think. Because I realized, oh man,
Starting point is 00:41:29 all these electric instruments or keyboards and I'm playing a piano. There's something for me here. And you're like a prodigy. Well, at this point, I was 11. I was in a band already.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So I was tuning in. I was in a band. That's amazing. It was like a kid playing hockey. I mean, for me. Oh, here comes the synth solo. Okay, here we go. Wow. Woo! Come on! I still can't play it.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Wow. I can airplay it. And then it just ends. Who does that on the radio these days? This is, like like unheard of. It's magic. Like it's the sound of the future. Yeah, well, spaceship superstar,
Starting point is 00:42:55 it is the sound of the future, man. That's like your rocket ship. Yeah, you hopped on board. You hopped on board and the sounds were otherworldly because they were electronic instruments that were, you know, not of this earth, but they were of this earth man-made. But it was the time of like Star Wars and space travel was, you know, I think I feel like our childhood.
Starting point is 00:43:12 We still had the magic of space travel was like in our dreams, like which was an extension of like people who came from like the Western dreams of like cowboys and exploring the frontiers. And then we got to the exploring space. Kids now are just bored. You know what I mean? Now, if the screen, if the screen freezes up, they're bored. of like cowboys and exploring the frontiers and then we got to the exploring space. Kids now are just bored. You know what I mean? Now if the screen, if the screen freezes up, they're bored.
Starting point is 00:43:30 But like, who has patience to listen to a song with a synthesizer solo to end the song? Like kids now, I don't know. No one's got any patience now. No one's got any patience.
Starting point is 00:43:37 But it's not just the younger people. No, I know. You're right. Older people too. Like I produced Humble and Fred show. Did you ever appear
Starting point is 00:43:43 on Humble and Fred show? Never did. That was after your time actually because, because they started in 89. Okay. Because I noticed a couple of instances later where they have like, oh, what happened to their patience? Like they basically moved on from a guest yesterday because she connected via Zoom and her mic wasn't working right away.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And it was like, I noticed like 30 seconds, like, okay, we'll reschedule you. Like we're moving on. And I'm like, oh, just like a little like calmly work with her we'll reschedule you like we're moving on and I'm like I'll just like a little like calmly work with her she can probably connect it real quick or whatever and then today Fred's computer crashed
Starting point is 00:44:10 and they said okay we're not doing an episode today and I'm like oh what's happened everybody's patience like no one has patience anymore life's moving faster
Starting point is 00:44:17 and faster for everybody it's true okay I love it when I listen to that I hear like a Manfred Mann vibe totally yeah yeah blinded by the light
Starting point is 00:44:24 it's exactly the same era the keyboard that 16th sort of the moving thing I love it. When I listen to that, I hear like a Manfred Mann vibe. Totally. Yeah, yeah. Blinded by the Light. It's exactly the same era. The keyboard, that 16th, sort of the moving thing that just kind of is relentless, you know? Yeah. You reminded me also that Gowan's episode was fantastic. Gowan. I heard, I saw your tweet. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I can't remember. Was it Facebook? I don't remember. Okay, I think it's Facebook. One of those things. Because I follow you on Facebook and you were tweeting. Yeah, you heard Moonlight Desire. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Yeah. Well, Moonlight Desire. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, Moonlight Desire. But on your show, you played Criminal Mind. Yeah, both. I think, yeah, Criminal Mind and Strange. I just love the way you played the whole song because I hadn't heard the song. I hadn't specifically just- Oh, you mean at the end?
Starting point is 00:44:57 No, it was like during the show, during the episode. And I hadn't really listened to it in a long time. And it really moved me. Okay, you want to know a secret? I added that in post. Good for you. And I never, you want to know a secret? I added that in post. Good for you. And I never read it in any episode. It was so...
Starting point is 00:45:08 I added that in post. It was a good move. I wasn't going to make Larry sit through his six minutes. I've been practicing it on the piano because it's very satisfying. Maybe we'll hear it on Thursday. Maybe I'll play snippets of it, yeah, when nobody's paying attention to me.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I'm actually... I'm not pissed. That's not the right word. I loved my Larry chat. Yeah. If I had known Larry was in Scarborough, I would have held out for an in-person interview with Larry Gowan. And I was told he was in the States on tour.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And this ties in a little bit with Jim Cuddy and Ed Robertson. You went to Jim's place. That was cool. So Jim, I went to his place, right? In Riverdale, the woodshed.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And in person, Jim Cuddy, 90 minutes. I'm like, oh yeah, I like this this because Jim matters to me and this was a great chat. And then Ed Robertson was available before today's show. Actually, that's why I'm going tonight. This is the true story, okay? So the management company is like, oh, Ed will come on your show because I've been trying to get Ed literally for years.
Starting point is 00:46:02 And I've had a few members of that band but not Ed Robertson. So where the hell's Ed? And then it turns out Ed's on. He's away until the concert. So he'd have to Zoom in. So it's like, okay, Ed needs to Zoom in. And I stopped it. I said, I am willing.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I've waited 10 years. Literally this week is 10 years of trying to mic. I've waited 10 years. I'm not Zooming with Ed Robertson. It's worth the wait. I have CFNY questions. I have so much I got to ask. Sure.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Bookie, this and that, so many things. I said, I will wait for Ed Robertson. I don't care if I have to go to him or if he's coming to me, but if I can bike there, we're going to do it. So maybe it'll happen in December in person. So I said no. But this is the nice thing, and this is the difference between Blue Rodeo and Barenaked Ladies.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I turned down Ed Robertson via Zoom. The management sends me two tickets to the show tonight. This is the difference between Blue Rodeo and Barenaked Ladies, okay? I turned down Ed Robertson via Zoom. Yeah. The management sends me two tickets to the show tonight. Wow. I didn't even have Ed on the show. Wow. I mean, wow, I bike to Riverdale, okay? Barenaked Ladies were at Budweiser stage last, on the weekend, I think.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Blue Rodeo, you mean. Blue Rodeo, sorry, thank you. Blue Rodeo was at Budweiser stage like last week. Yep. And somebody said, oh, I guess you went to the show. I got nothing. I got a glass of water right so no tickets for me and and but was it steve waxman who hooked you up finally with jim cuddy not with warner anymore right steve it was that's the current warner guy right because when you had when you had kevin and steve on the show right that was the conversation kevin and steve of course i worked with them for years uh steve
Starting point is 00:47:24 waxman worked with at ready years Steve Waxman worked at Ready Records when I was with the Spoons and he came on board probably like in our Talkback era and he was helping he was like working with us
Starting point is 00:47:31 and then I knew Kevin Shea when I was with Honeymoon Suite and he was working with us at Honeymoon Suite in my experience and this is episode 1104 there's been no nicer and sweeter FOTM
Starting point is 00:47:43 in 10 years than Kevin Shea. Yeah. Like literally the nicest human, one of the nicest humans I've ever encountered. You're right up there by the way. Okay. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:53 Kevin is a super cool guy and yeah, he's one of those guys. He just, he leaves an impression on you straight away. And I remember, you know, we would go up to the record company offices in, they were like in Scarborough or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And you'd see all of them in their offices. And then they had a warehouse in the back and the early days of cds i could go back there and like they didn't give them to us but we could buy them at cost or whatever right and i would go through this warehouse freaking out like to pick all the things i've never heard before so did you as a keyboardist did you listen to jimmy holmstrom on toronto mike because no jimmy is the okay you got to listen to this okay this was his name's Mike Ross. He's the public address announcer when you see the Leafs at the Scotiabank Arena.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Oh, I saw you right about now. So Mike Ross and Jimmy Holmstrom, who's been the organist at, I don't know, they call it organist, but it's a keyboard.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It was at Maple Leaf Gardens from 87, now it's wherever, Scotiabank Arena. But he's been doing it since 87. Wow. And we kick out his favorite
Starting point is 00:48:42 like keyboard jams. Oh, cool. Anyways, I will listen to it on my drive back to Queens. Okay like keyboard jams oh cool anyways i will do it on my drive back to queens okay good that's all i need to do that all right fourth jam oh my god i could talk to you all night i'm sorry sorry i'm gonna miss kim mitchell kim mitchell's opening for kim mitchell's opening tonight yeah oh my god fotm kim mitchell who my mom i once he's playing a show nearby yep and i said hey to my mom i said mom you want to go see kim m hey, to my mom, I said, mom, you want to go see Kim Mitchell? And my mom swear to you, this was the answer. Oh, I love her music.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Thanks, mom. And I haven't let her forget that. Okay, here we go. I have a feeling I am growing old I know only two Well, my fire's out and I'm growing cold My heart aches, my story goes untold Yesterday I thought that life was grand But I was proved wrong Now I sit and hang my head into my hands And hope that someday they'll understand Flowers were growing here, no
Starting point is 00:50:17 War, no Warflowers were growing here, no War, no. Warflowers were growing here, no. War, no. War. Rob, I must say, I don't know this jam. You don't.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Flowers. Yeah, did I miss it? What is this? This is Drastic Measures. Toronto bands. Just before my time, I think. Just before miss it? What is this? This is Drastic Measures. Toronto band. Just before my time, I think. Just before your time. What era?
Starting point is 00:50:48 What are we? Early 80s? 1979, 1980. Tony Malone. I was listening to Sesame Street Fever. That's right. You were on that. So Drastic Measures was a local band.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And Tony Malone was the lead singer, keyboard player. He passed away like a month ago we talked about him because he went on Facebook he had some alternative beliefs he did controversially
Starting point is 00:51:10 he drove a lot of people crazy I think in his later years but I was a friend and a fan since I was 15 in my early spoons days and we played at the Edge and we did shows with them
Starting point is 00:51:20 and like opened for them and I loved this album like before we recorded our first album i would listen to drastic measures they could they had a version of teddy bear's picnic which was we played it yeah okay this was the most recent wise blood episode we played teddy bear's picnic because i had the ann marie version i'm a hippo in my bathtub right and we totally in the ridley funeral home memorial segment we totally paid our respects to tony nice yeah um and and i had been in touch with him over the years
Starting point is 00:51:45 and I knew he was really ill. I don't really know exactly what it was that he passed away from, but he was just a guy that I had such a fond, early memory in my world of playing in clubs and stuff. And this record was always super meaningful to me and I just loved it. So I thought it would be a cool song.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And I'm glad you kicked it out, actually. I was going to ask you, so what's it like be a cool song and i'm glad you kick it out actually uh it's i was gonna ask you so what's it like when your buddies are somebody and then they have these alternative beliefs on facebook and stuff like like like how do you manage the relationship with that person when you're being fed this i'm just curious i don't have an exact answer because that's a question that that puzzles most people in the world these days, right? They talk about fake news and alternative beliefs
Starting point is 00:52:31 and alternative theories on things, whatever. And I don't really know. I can't completely dismiss a person unless they become really belligerent about stuff. But I'm happy to listen to anybody about what they believe because nobody really knows anything. And I think there's a foundation of truth for us all to discover
Starting point is 00:52:52 that goes beyond politics and goes beyond our daily life. And that's a deeper question. That's another episode. That's a big one. You'll have to come back to that one. But Tony was definitely a guy who would drive people crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And I don't know why. I don't understand that thing that drove him. And people like to feel that way. So I loved him for who I remembered him being. And thinking, well, something's driving him to feel this way about the things he feels about. And that's great for him. Can't wait to kick out this jam. I remember it well from a certain station.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Here we go. I've got a rubber in my wallet One of those little whatchamacallits I'm saving it for that special day When the right girl comes my way It leaves a
Starting point is 00:53:40 circular impression From all those years of compression I've had it since I turned 13 Circular impression From all those years of compression I've had it since I turned 13 I got it in a vending machine Cir-cir-circular impression Leading to a state of depression
Starting point is 00:54:01 In my walla-walla-walla-walla wallet I can't wait to install it No, I can't wait It's in a little tinfoil packet Sometimes I'm tempted Love it. What are they singing about? It's like, it's subtle.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Like, I don't know. There's some subtext going on in this song. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, pro condom. I love it. Now, the extras, right? Yeah, the extras. Yeah, so I always hear this on CFNY.
Starting point is 00:54:33 They would play this jam, and I'm like, what is this song? They were on our label, Ready Records, and their album came out just before we released our first Spoons album. And again, this was like we did shows with them at The Edge, maybe Larry's Hideaway as well. Shout out to the Garys. Yeah, exactly. Hi, Garys, Gary.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And this is just another one of those records. I would listen to it and I would look at the record jacket and think, oh my God, we're making a record now. This is super cool.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I would listen to these. I used to do it with Rough Trade Records as well and just put them on and sort of think, man, we're going to have a piece of vinyl ourselves.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Like, it's bizarre. Wow. You know? Wow. And you're so damn young when this, you're just a teenager. I was 15.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. I remember you telling me to get a special note to play clubs and stuff. From a liquor control board. I still have it, actually. I got to scan it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You got to send that over my way. Okay, Rob, it's funny how things happen in real time with the live stream and stuff. But someone heard us talking about Barenaked Ladies. So is there a reason you're not attending the show tonight? Oh, just because I'm going back to Burlington.
Starting point is 00:55:32 My sister is, they've been renovating their new house for months and months and I'm sort of helping them like organize stuff at the house. And my parents, they're like putting all these things together. So it's a time thing.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You don't have time to see BNL tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because I'm leaving in a couple of days after TML. No, it makes sense. But I will let you know that the wonderful Moose Grumpy offered you a ticket. Really? So there's a ticket for Rob Proust to see Barenaked Ladies tonight if you were interested.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I talked to Kevin Hearn a couple of days ago too. And he's like, oh, I could maybe put you on the guest list. But it's already, I think when you play your hometown, everybody comes out. I'm already on that guest list. Are you? Yeah, everybody wants to go to the show. So I said, don't worry about it because I got to go back home.
Starting point is 00:56:09 It's okay. Okay, so you'll pass on them this time. You'll tell me how good they were. Thank you, Moose Grumpy. And Kim Mitchell. Yeah, and Kim Mitchell. She's great. Tell your mom.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I reminder of that on the reg. I think I told Kim Mitchell when he came on, I told him that story too. When I was in grade nine, I think I was in a band when Max Webster were still a thing. And I remember walking home with my friend from school one day, vividly this conversation. And we were talking about like musicians being older than us. Cause we were like, you know, 13, 14. We're like, man, Kim Mitchell is old.
Starting point is 00:56:36 He's like almost 30. And at that time, like even now when I think about it, I can remember that feeling of thinking 30 is like miles away. Now it's miles behind. Now it's miles behind. Now it's miles behind. Okay, let's kick out your one, two, three, four, five. Let's kick out your sixth. We're on six.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Sixth jam. And thank you, Moose Grumpy. Yeah, thank you, Moose, for the offer. I'll text her to let her know that you can't make it, but that's very kind of her. Oh, eyes on the sea lake Remote control relay Expecting nothing ordinary Oh, I caught a message.
Starting point is 00:57:27 A long distance telegram. Aye, aye. Oh, for age on ice. Strange to walk. Come on, let's show all these birds. I know we're pressing these thoughts. There's going on here? You're joking. I'm joking. I know you're joking. No idea who this band is, Rob. What's going on here? You're joking.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm joking. I know you're joking. Shout out to FOTM Gordon, FOTM Sandy. Yeah, I got three of you in the collection here. I also have three members of the Watchmen, so I'm trying to collect some full sets here, like full houses here. But conventional beliefs.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yep. First song on our first album. So this is like the world's introduction to our bands, which I feel like somewhere I read this really cool article that talked about like the first song of a band or an artist on their first record. And it sort of sets the tone, right? Dude,
Starting point is 00:58:37 this is a topic I've wanted to do on toast for a long time. You should do it. The first song in the first album. Exactly. Sets the tone. Yeah. And, and like, as the years have gone by, I think The first song in the first album. Exactly. Sets the tone. Yeah. And like, as the years have gone by,
Starting point is 00:58:48 I think about the song in that way, and I think, it's super cool. It's got all the elements of our freaking band. Like, the things that made us
Starting point is 00:58:53 who we were. Each of our simple kind of lines that Gord was playing, like a simple guitar line. Sandy's got the bass line with the pedals and my synth,
Starting point is 00:59:02 you know. It's all there. The recipe's there. Yeah. And this was actually the first song that I was a part of creating when I joined the band. So when I joined the band, they'd already had like a couple of sets of music because they'd been around for about a year before. Right. And I was so nervous for like the next time that Gord was going to like come in with a new song to start working on.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And I thought, I've never like really worked on really original songs with like such cool people before what am I going to do and then this was the first song so and I feel like it sort of it like was the place that we bounced off from
Starting point is 00:59:31 so like this song like where would it get where was it played what kind of exposure did it get well this was on our first album Stick Figure Neighborhood
Starting point is 00:59:39 and it definitely got played on CFNY Jim Reed played it like the first interview Gord and I ever did Jim used to have a show called Cooking with Guests from CFNY. Jim Reed played it. Like the first interview Gord and I ever did, Jim used to have a show called Cooking with Guests from CFNY. And so I'll never forget hearing this on the radio for the first time.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It was so weird. But it didn't get any airplay other than like college stations. And the album like went to number one on the college charts across the country in the summer of 81. So only 41 years ago. That was the alternative. that was the way to hear alternative music you know it was college radio maybe this is around the era that the uh the great anthony petrucci from palma pasta maybe yeah yeah maybe but uh so yeah yeah go ahead it's just not it wasn't like ever meant to be a single and we didn't really think of our music in terms of
Starting point is 01:00:22 singles and airplay in that way at that time. We just wanted to make an album. But all the elements are there. It's funny because we talked about Jim Cuddy at the Woodshed and my memory bank, the first song I remember hearing everywhere was Try. But he's like, no, that was the second single. Right, isn't that weird? Yeah, and Outskirts was the first single.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And I'm like, oh, who played that? He goes, nobody. In those days, I mean, that's what you did, right? Like you released a song. Sometimes so many songs would get released on an album and you don't know. Once the hit becomes the hit, you don't realize there've been one or two other songs
Starting point is 01:00:51 that already were out. That's a great example. You're like, what do you mean? I mean, I would have lost a lot of money in a bar bet by telling you that Try was not the first single. Right. But that would be like, that's, yeah. So sometimes-
Starting point is 01:01:01 Nobody really knows what they're doing. First song sets the tone and sometimes it doesn't. Well, nobody knows what they're doing. Like when when we recorded nova heart we went in the studio with the idea that we were going to make a 12-inch single and we picked two songs right this song symmetry and this song nova heart and we thought symmetry was the song like our producer john punter was like yeah this is the song and as time went on and we were crafting the song we're like you know this nova heart is like really catchy yeah so damn let's i think this is going to be the single i'm still listening to nova heart in 2022 like that thing's time well i played it early in the show but when i was yeah i mean imagine is that going to appear
Starting point is 01:01:34 on maybe that'll get played on tmlx totally i'll totally play it oh my god everybody you're going to hear nova by rob bruce at tmlx Instrumentally. Six to nine. Without paying attention. So don't focus on the band. Don't look at me. Just enjoy it in the background while you eat your palm of pasta and drink your Great Lakes beer. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:51 All right. Jam number seven. Woo. Love it. In a hundred wars across the earth Men and guns are thought to prove their worth Women stay behind and grow the food Placing soldiers in a
Starting point is 01:02:39 dangerous mood Women around the world at work Women around the world at work Women around the world at work Women around the world at work Working, working I should have worn my Echo Beach t-shirt. Amazing. You had that shirt on with somebody recently
Starting point is 01:03:00 and I thought that was a fantastic shirt. I love that shirt. Your Martha Muck shirt. Somebody walking by, I'm wearing that shirt outside playing with the kids and someone's walking by and it's
Starting point is 01:03:07 like they just stop and they tell you about how much they love Martha. It's like it's a whole conversation. That's cool. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:03:14 It's cool. Nice. Okay, Martha and the Muffins. Did you listen to that episode of Toronto Mike? I sure did.
Starting point is 01:03:19 It was great. Yeah, they were great. Yeah, I love them. The first time I think Mark opened up about like how he switched Marthas. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 We used to do shows with them as well in the early days. Of course, our manager, Carl, used to play bass for Martham the Muffins on Echo Beach, and that's sort of how the band got connected with them, because I think before I was in the Spoons, they had done a show. In fact, I saw them before I joined the band in Hamilton. The last day of school,
Starting point is 01:03:45 grade 10, I guess, I took a bus with my friend to Hamilton and we saw Spoons open for Marth and the Muffins. And I think at that time, Carl was already sort of like thinking about
Starting point is 01:03:54 maybe managing, but he didn't start managing until I had joined the band. And so we had done some shows with them as well. And this was on their album, This is the Ice Age, which is a fantastic album.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And this is a fantastic song like uh you know they have sneaky hits like sometimes you're like oh yeah there's the big ones or whatever you know echo beach whatever echo beach is their nova heart yeah yeah right exactly bigger even bigger hit but then you're like oh shit like these songs were just everywhere in like the 80s like they were just all over whether it, I don't know, CFTR or whatever, your Chum 30 or whatever. And it's, yeah, it's like the Southern Ontario sound. It's the connection. Like, I mean, I always feel like with our band too,
Starting point is 01:04:32 like our biggest popularity was for sure in Southern Ontario. Like we had stuff across the country, but I feel like we were local band makes good, you know? This is where I need you to help me because I've, you know this is where i'm i need you to help me because i've you know famously uh the watchman drummer sammy cone had to educate me that lowest of the low were not that big when western canada like it's like i think because i i'm born and raised in toronto yeah i'm listening to cfny i think lowest and lower they're fucking huge right what do you mean it's a toronto thing yeah like what are you talking about yeah same with us like like we would discover that we were getting airplay across the country but there were
Starting point is 01:05:08 definitely times i mean in in my time with the spoons there were later periods where i thought oh yeah like it's it's really not translating so much across the whole damn country all the time that because our main focus was like playing ontario like like by the last year that i was with the band and we played so many gigs like every high school in southern ontario you know because that's where the crowds were for us and and we sort of got oversaturated the market in that way but it was fun at the same time because we were playing to the people who wanted to hear us and also you were just ahead of the like the video curve like you were almost like just ahead of the much music train yeah i mean we were there you were no you're there romantic traffic and everything but like like because you're like you want that jam we
Starting point is 01:05:49 play there 81 or whatever like and when does much debut like 85 85 something like that and so it's like you're just yeah you're in the right place but you're almost almost just like a little ahead of it almost well that's what ties this country together i think when it comes to these things yeah and i mean when we did the nova heart video it was like the first or second video that had ever been done in canada really lit and it because it was a new thing that was before much music that was the end of 82 that we did that video so we're still a couple years away we were getting like it was probably getting played on you know samantha taylor video video hits right and those those kind of shows right good rocking tonight whatever was' Tonight, whatever was happening. Stu Jeffries. Well, first Terry David Mulligan, who's an FOTM,
Starting point is 01:06:27 and then Stu Jeffries, who's an FOTM. Yeah. I'm still working on Samantha Taylor. I think Kevin Shea was trying to get me Samantha Taylor. I want her on Toronto Mike, so she's listening. I'm ready for her. Nice. I think you tweeted about this jam, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I don't know. I feel like I'm all, you know, and the Twitter's a weird thing. It's like somebody tweeted about this, because I subtweeted an episode with a member of this band where we talked about it, but let's kick out this jam and let's talk about it.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Great. guitar solo ¶¶ ¶¶ ¶¶ Now out of sight is out of mind Waiting for a second chance, a second time Don't walk on paths, don't walk on paths Don't walk on paths, Don't break this heart Be strong my heart I love this song Rob I love it too Talk to me about Blue Peters
Starting point is 01:08:16 Don't walk past Another label mate On Ready Records Blue Peter They were just ahead of our time Because they released one album I think before we did our first so again they were a band I would listen to and think man
Starting point is 01:08:28 we're making a record on Ready Records just like Blue Peter Video Verite remember that song? I think on the first album and I just loved the sound of all their records Radio Silence yeah totally and then they did this song after we had done Nova Heart
Starting point is 01:08:44 and we had worked with this British producer, John Punter. I believe they did this with Steve Nye, who used to produce the band Japan. So Ready Records was like, man, when we get producers to come work with our bands and we can make magic. And it worked out really good because Blue Peter made a beautiful album. And I've
Starting point is 01:09:00 just always loved this song. Paul Humphrey passed away a couple years ago not sure how many years ago now but during covid was it covid time yeah i'd say 2020 okay so a couple years but we used to do shows with them as well like ready records would put on christmas parties and put their acts together so that's like when we did with the extras and blue peter and stuff but yeah this is just another one of the songs from that era it's that it's that new wave era where it wasn't quite crossing over to all the mainstream
Starting point is 01:09:25 yet but it was for those of us who were there and loved the cfny sounds it was it was it was blending into the rest of the world as well so it was kind of an exciting time well chris wardman is an fotm he's the episode i need to listen to you guys i've got him queued up it sounds like and again i only have to talk to chris this, but it almost sounds like this band was big, ready to whatever, get bigger, and then somebody quit the band. It just sort of ends suddenly. Yeah, I don't know. It's a mystery.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And an interesting one member of that band, of course, is the son of Sam the Record Man. Jason. Yeah, Jason's amazing. Fun fact there. No mind blow. That mind blow wouldn't qualify anyways. We've shared that on Toronto Mike before.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Love it. Well, we love Blue Peter. Yeah, no doubt. And this is, of course, this is like the big jam from Blue Peter. It still sounds amazing. So good, yeah. We'll let Blue Peter take us into your next jam
Starting point is 01:10:22 because that's the one I boosted. And that's the one where I have the bonus jams. And some info that, you know, my source on this info is impeccable because it's Ed Conroy from Retro Ontario. And it's a jam I absolutely, like the nostalgia that will flow through my veins when I play this next jam, this next level.
Starting point is 01:10:40 So we'll let Blue Peter take us home to that one. It's next level, so we'll let Blue Peter take us home to that one. Those drums. Amazing. This is TV Ontario, Channel 19 in Toronto, Channel 32 in Windsor. Coloured lights are flying Like an agent through the air Shadows moving faster than they are Passing faces, places never have seen before They'll take you to the sky.
Starting point is 01:11:49 Right upon a silver screen where pictures seem to flow. Like magic. Magic. Shadows. Shadows it's a palindrome isn't it yes it's a palindrome like Abbott credited or Otto that's one palindrome we won't be seeing around here anymore and Hannah
Starting point is 01:12:30 who's my guest next week Hannah Sung Hannah is actually a palindrome as well okay first before I steal the show from you here
Starting point is 01:12:37 talk to me about this jam the Magic Shadows theme song it sort of flows away from the Blue Peter New Wave era but I just sort of wanted to from the Blue Peter New Wave era,
Starting point is 01:12:47 but I just sort of wanted to bring it back around to music that I love. You're all choked up because you're getting the nostalgia, man. Excuse me. This is like a 70s jam, but TVO was a staple for me because I was watching, I'm stealing it back now,
Starting point is 01:12:58 but so many, Fables of the Green Forest, Simon in the Land of Chalk, Johnny Hamster. Hammy Hamster. Hammy Hamster, but I don't feel like I saw that on TVO. I feel like that was on Global. Oh, maybe it was. I remember that on Global.
Starting point is 01:13:10 It feels like it should be on TVO. But like, I just want to shout out Dr. Snuggles, okay? But Jeremy the Bear. Do you remember this guy? Oh, my name is Jeremy. And again, I know you're a few years older than me, but okay, TVO was a big deal. And I've been traumatized because i would be watching polka dot door and then uh the uh what's that instrument
Starting point is 01:13:30 called that the star wars theme is um what's that instrument which one there's a instrument made a russian guy made it theremin yes yeah and then you'd hear the doctor who oh yes of course yeah and it would scare the shit out of me like i, I would be totally, I'm going to bring down Elwie. I know that's not where they just hear. But anyway, this is a song where, you know, magic shadows. Even if I was too young to appreciate what Elwie was going to deliver. Yeah. I was mesmerized by the animation and the song.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yep. Tell me about how that song affected you. It was mesmerizing to me as well, but also because it was my introduction to my love of old movies. And, like, he would have Monster Week. And, like, that was my introduction to my love of old movies and like he would have monster week and like that was my first time watching king kong like you know he'd break everything up into five episodes and like 30 minutes per whatever right and he would do his little introductions and my i fell in love with with lon chaney and the old silent monster films and king kong um and yeah that sound just evokes that feeling of like tuning into our little TV
Starting point is 01:14:25 in our living room and watching that because we had a TV where you had to like maybe you had to like tune it to the UHF or VHF or whatever
Starting point is 01:14:31 you gotta get to 19 it was hard to get a reception on that thing and when you got it you didn't move you had to like get the antenna just right dude I remember
Starting point is 01:14:37 I feel like we're that last generation that can like feel the pain of that like it's like you know none of my kids can understand that
Starting point is 01:14:44 but like we lived with that. That's right. But that's like a, like having a home phone ring and not knowing who was going to be on the other line until you answered it.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Like that's something we all grew up with but like it's completely foreign now. Like what do you mean you don't know who's calling you? That's right.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And you're all sharing a phone and if your girlfriend's calling you or whatever, your boyfriend or whatever, you're like, you know, you're phoning your girlfriend you're hoping the dad doesn't answer. Or there's two lines in the house and if your girlfriend's calling you or whatever your boyfriend whatever you're like uh you know you know you're phoning your girlfriend you're hoping the dad doesn't answer or there's two lines in the house and like your mom is upstairs mom i got the call yeah okay mom hang up tends to hang up that's right tell us she didn't hang up that's right i used to do that
Starting point is 01:15:15 sometimes too my sister i would snoop on the calls i was a bad brother so do you want me to okay so when you hear that song yeah which by the way it's harry forbes yes okay so harry forbes uh composed that song and record it so a lot of people hear that song including me and you hear a very beatles influence there right so here let's get a taste here so you just heard magic shadows theme song there by uh harry forbes now i'm gonna play a song this is why we're not live on Facebook. Although now I hear Tears for Fears. Sowing the seeds of love. Sowing the seeds of love, of course.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I am here as you are here as you are me and we are all together See how they run like pigs from a gun See how they fly I'm crying Woo, okay. So yeah, that's what I would always, as I became old enough to realize
Starting point is 01:16:21 what's going on in the world, I'm like, oh yeah, that Harry Forbes is busting the styles from the Beatles. Well, Ed Conroy talked to Harry Forbes. And here he acknowledges the Beatles influence. How can he not? But here's the jam. He's kind of ripping off even more than that one.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I am the walrus by the Beatles. Here's the jam. Harry Forbes is really busting. Oh, Beach Boys. Man. I feel flows. Right?
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. I never thought of it. That's why I love the Beach Boys. Yep. Yeah, I'm telling you. I'm here to blow your mind. It's the Magic Shadows Connection.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Yes. Doesn't this sound like the Harry Forbes song? Yeah. More so than even the Beatles. Yep. Amazing. So, thank you the Beatles. Yep. Amazing. So thank you, Ed Conroy.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Thank you, Ed. For talking to Harry Forbes. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to have these people on so I can get the story from the horse's mouth. Did Harry mention
Starting point is 01:17:17 this song or mention the Beach Boys as an inspiration? Yeah, he mentioned Feel Flows specifically to Ed as the influence. And this is from 1971,
Starting point is 01:17:27 Surf's Up. Yes, what a great album that is. So all the timelines are in place here. Yep. By the way, it was episode three. What was it?
Starting point is 01:17:36 Okay, Ed and I, we kick out a lot of these Canadian theme songs, we call them. I would recommend episode 167, 378, or a special episode we did, which recommend episode 167 378 or a special episode
Starting point is 01:17:47 we did which was it was 378 we called it Themology 101 and I think we talked about this song and that
Starting point is 01:17:53 but Ed Conroy is a that's why he's the first member inducted into the FOTM Hall of Fame. Okay so I'll bring down
Starting point is 01:18:02 Beach Boys here and then we're going to kick out your last jam. How was this man? Amazing. Good. Hall of Fame. Okay, so I'll bring down Beach Boys here and then we're going to kick out your last jam. How was this, man? Amazing. Good. Jams never end. Should I have recorded this? No. We'll redo it later. We'll get it right.
Starting point is 01:18:15 This is the test run. As I said that joke, I ran over to my waveform to make sure I could see something. I'm like, okay, I know that's a joke. Let's just make sure. We would do it again and it would be better. Yeah, you'd have to come over after Bare Naked Ladies. Okay, so we'll bring down and then we're going to kick out your final jam.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Those Beach Boys records are so good. Oh, right. That's me. Oh! Oh! Meteor showers above me Yoko is tweeting about peace 21st century influx The nights, the nights seem to swallow us up
Starting point is 01:19:01 Who does your art direction? The way the light hits you is cosmic Guts and glitters like smokey blue diamonds And you don't really care where your pants fall This is an alarm call 911 to the wrecking ball Nothing's been right since they broke the fourth wall Trying to make it to landfall Preaching the rapture with a Bible and gun You're out to kill the sacred feminine
Starting point is 01:19:40 You're soulless and gutless as your blood rhetoric Eye on the prize a hand on your dick oh you wish oh you wish this isn't a long call 9-1-1 to the wrecking ball dragging myself i'll walk or i'll crawl trying to make you to land far Tell me everything about this song. I co-wrote this song with Carol Pope in 2011. And she came to me with the idea. She's like, I got this song. I'm going to make it a duet with Rufus Wainwright.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And we got to just wait until Rufus is in town and available. And I was doing Mamma Mia at the time. And so we were up in the lobby at the Winter Garden Theater on Broadway, working on the song. Not on Yonge Street. Nope. The Winter Garden. The Elgin Winter Garden.
Starting point is 01:20:42 That's right. I played there too. So she brought the idea But so we worked on this So she brought the idea Then we worked on it And then We sort of had it To a certain position
Starting point is 01:20:50 And then she's like Now I gotta just wait for Rufus And then like one day She's like okay Next week Rufus is available So I'm booking this recording studio And so I booked it down to the studio
Starting point is 01:20:59 And we And she's like Oh I wrote an extra verse And so I had to Like write a couple chords For this last section And then I played the piano and recorded the piano part. And then she did her vocal.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It sounds awesome, buddy. It's an amazing song. Amazing. I'm very proud of the song because she released it in 2011. And people release music now, and there's no radios really playing stuff a lot. And it's a whole different world. And for somebody like Carol, she's like a legacy artist in so many ways
Starting point is 01:21:25 that people respect her for what she's done but I feel like, I think this song that we did is just so cool that I like to play it any chance I get. Now,
Starting point is 01:21:32 CBC Music is looking for more CanCon because they just took Arcade Fire off their playlist. They did? Because there's a controversy with their lead singer Wynn out there.
Starting point is 01:21:41 So there is room for more. But this song sounds amazing and early in the song, there's a shout out to Yoko Ono.on. Right, right, right. So there is room for more. But this song sounds amazing and early in the song there's a shout out to Yoko Ono. Yeah. And of course that's the jam
Starting point is 01:21:50 Barenaked Ladies played at Speaker's Corner. Right. And you're going to see them tonight. And I'm going to see them. It's all coming full circle. It's all full circle. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:21:58 My Jerry Seinfeld, yeah. Okay. Dude, I can't believe how awesome that was to kick out the jams. Now listen, you've come a long way all the way from New York City. I feel like doing it.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Ooh, wah, ooh, wah, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. The boy from New York City. Talk about the boy from New York City. His name is Rob. He's kind of a snob. Oh, yeah. All right. But anything you were like, I got to make sure I tell him this.
Starting point is 01:22:22 I got to make sure I share this story. Is there anything that you're going to be driving back to Burlington you're going to be like, damn it, I got to make sure I tell him this. I got to make sure I share the story. Is there anything that you're going to be driving back to Burlington? You're going to be like, damn it. I forgot. No, it's been an honor. And we'll just do it again sometime. And I'll see you Thursday night. I'll see you Thursday night.
Starting point is 01:22:35 What time? Six. Six to nine p.m. I got to come a little early and set up. Don't be late because you're there between six and nine. So I'm going to be there. I'm there at five. I'll be there early too.
Starting point is 01:22:42 F-O-T-M-L Grego will be helping to set up the audio stuff at 5 p.m. At five. Great. The pasta. So FOTM, listen, it's important. The pasta from Palma Pasta does not arrive till six. Okay. So, you know, and that's when the bar opens and you get your free beer and then you can
Starting point is 01:22:58 get five buck beers from Great Lakes. But it's going to be an amazing night. And anybody can show up. Any FOTM. I can tell my friends. But you, yes, yes. If they're friends of you night. And anybody can show up. I can tell my friends. Yes, if they're friends of you, they can show up. Absolutely. Any listener,
Starting point is 01:23:10 they'll have to fake that they're listeners. Any listener or former guest of Toronto Mic is invited to this exclusive TMLXX celebrating 10 years of Toronto Mic. It's our 10th Toronto Mic listener experience. It's going to be amazing to have you there, Rob. I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:23:27 And that... That brings us to the end of our 1,104th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. And Rob, you're at RobPruceX? Yeah, Twitter. There's an X at the end. I don't know why, yeah. Somebody took it probably. Yeah. I'm at Toronto Mike and Rob you're at Rob Pruse X yeah Twitter there's an X at the end
Starting point is 01:23:46 I don't know why yeah somebody took it probably yeah Pruse is P-R-E-U-S-S X and then an X that's right
Starting point is 01:23:53 so Rob Pruse yeah he's a great follow and you write like poetry or I don't know how you do like you like to do line breaks I do line breaks
Starting point is 01:24:01 I don't know why it's just you know who kind of does that a little bit Ron Sexsmith really does a little bit? Ron Sexsmith. Really? Oh yeah. He does that style too. He's a poet and he knows it. He's a poet and he knows it.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. They're hosting TMLXX. That's 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Lots of peas. And they're feeding everybody at TMLX. Sticker U will be there. Sticker U, they're at Sticker U.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Electronic Products Recycling Association, I'm going to talk to them tomorrow. They're at EPRA underscore Canada. Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH. They're going to be there. And Canna Cabana are at Canna Cabana underscore. They'll be there. See you all at tml xx Yeah, I know it's true How about you? They're picking up trash and they're putting down rogues
Starting point is 01:25:09 And they're brokering stocks, the class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up rosy and gray
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and green
Starting point is 01:25:51 Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow warms us today.
Starting point is 01:26:29 And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away. Because everything is Rosie now. Everything is Rosie, yeah. Everything is Rosiey and everything is rosy and gray.

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