Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Rob Preuss Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1104
Episode Date: August 30, 2022In this 1104th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with keyboardist extraordinaire Rob Preuss about the ten jams that shaped him. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Pal...ma Pasta, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.
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Today, in person, in the flesh, to kick out the jams,
is keyboardist extraordinaire Rob Pruce.
Rob, nice to finally meet you.
Nice to meet you in person.
I feel like we've been friends for a while,
and it's wild when you meet somebody in person. Like you mean like a real life person? Yeah, like you're really there. I can reach out
and touch you. Zoom doesn't count, right? No. I mean, like even meeting you on Zoom for the first
time, I was like, I feel like I know you already. Right. But you were 1D, 2D, whatever that is,
right? Listen, man, this has been a long time coming. An extra half hour? I'm overwhelmed
actually. Yeah. And you made it go another 30 minutes but like i'm overwhelmed right now so i'm gonna start by just telling
people about the last two times you appeared remotely from new york city right queens new
york queens okay close enough okay how queen is new york city yeah because they're the beastie
boys told me there's the five bros okay in this 952nd episode mike chats with rob pruse rhymes with zeus who joined the
spoons when he was 15 years young i'm actually gonna pause my sentence right there because i'm
gonna start a jam in the background here okay here we go who joined the Spoons when he was 15 years young, and it was part of their glory years.
We talked about Nova Heart, romantic traffic, Toronto Rocks, his time with Honeymoon Suite,
his love of musical theatre, his relationship with Carol Pope, fellow FOTM Carol Pope, and more.
with Carol Pope, fellow FOTM Carol Pope,
and more.
We talked for a good 90 minutes.
And then, Mr. Pruce,
I enjoyed the experience so much.
I said to the guys, I said,
Brother Bill, Cam Gordon,
I need an excuse to bring Rob back on the program.
Let's do another PPMM.
And then we recorded a progressive past of Modern Melodies.
And you were our special guest as we dove deep into the history of new wave music in Canada.
That episode was ready for this.
Two and a half hours long.
Was it?
We were just getting started.
So Rob, how the hell are you?
I'm good.
I'm really good.
I will shut up because I'm tired of my own voice.
Give us, when did you arrive in Canada?
I crossed the border last night at 9 o'clock.
Peace Bridge.
I don't like crossing to the Peace Bridge.
But you got by.
They let you in.
I got by.
Actually, the guy, the border guard, saw me with Honeymoon Suite when he was in grade 5.
Are you kidding me?
That's amazing.
He was looking at my passport.
Well, I mean, not that I look like I looked in 1986.
But he's like, what do you got in the car?
I said, I got some stuff, some gifts for my sister.
I have a keyboard in the back.
And then he sort of looked.
He's like, what do you do for a living?
I said, I'm a musician.
He's like, you ever played in any bands?
And I didn't think it was going to go where it was going.
And I said, oh, he's playing this band called The Spoons and a band called Honeymoon Suite.
And then he was like, I think then he knew.
Oh, my God.
He said, I saw you guys at the Niagara Falls Memorial Center
or something when he was in grade five.
And I had just joined the band at that point.
So it was pretty funny because I thought, great.
I was just on the phone with Anthony Petrucci.
His family owns Palma Pasta and we were organizing like,
okay, how's the food coming on for Thursday for TMLXX,
which we'll talk about.
And Anthony was telling me about how
he said he remembers seeing spoons
in some small club or something
like just before this song broke
he says this is his memory
I don't know I don't have that info
Godfather on Thursday though
I'll introduce you to him
we'll track it down
by the way since I mentioned Palma Pasta
Rob you're not leaving here this might be why you made the trip to down you know we'll track it down and you're by the way since I mentioned Palma Pasta Rob you're not leaving here
this might be why
you made the trip to Canada
you know it
what's sitting in front of me
I got a large lasagna
in the freezer for you
that you're leaving with today
and by the way
let's not waste time
okay so
some of those cans are cold
some of them are room temperature
these are
fresh craft beer
from Great Lakes Brewery
they look so good
so if you're going to
crack it open though,
do it on the mic
and then I can ask you
about your shirt.
Are they all the same?
No, I see Canuck Pale Ale.
Okay, so the Canuck
Pale Ale Lager.
Some Americans say Canuck
and it's so weird.
They don't know how to say it.
I mean, the Pale Ale
is fantastic,
but if you're a lager guy,
I don't know what you are.
I'm going to try the lager.
Okay.
No.
So the lager is the other one.
Yeah, so that's the Canuck.
I'm going to try the lager.
Okay, so on the mic though. Okay. Rob lighter okay so on the mic though okay okay rob pruse on the mic here we go
and now i'm gonna crack mine open my burst
okay cheers to you rob it's about it's like is that real sound
that's like the old pepsi commercials we met November 2021, but when did you discover Toronto Mic'd?
It was possibly the summertime of 2021, maybe 2020 even.
It was in the times of COVID, I think.
And I don't remember who was the first episode I started listening to,
but all of a sudden I realized, I was like, oh my God,
I need to go back and listen to all these episodes.
And I realized how many there were.
And I was like diving into this world that was unknown to me.
And I think what I loved from the first episode I listened to was that the people you were talking to and the way you were talking about sort of Toronto and Southern Ontario sort of made me like homesick in a way.
Like I thought, oh, this is my, these are my people.
Because we'll talk about like, I don't know, Polka Roo or something.
And you're like, oh, you know, there's no Polka Roo in Queens. No, exactly. I keep my Canadian heritage close to my people. Because we'll talk about, I don't know, Polka Roo or something, and you're like, oh, there's no Polka Roo in Queens.
No, exactly.
I keep my Canadian heritage close to my heart.
I've been living in New York for 21 years now.
Wow.
Proud Canadian the whole time.
But you stay connected through Toronto Mic'd.
I'm going to take credit for that.
You totally get the credit.
Oh my God, okay.
Especially when you had Ed Conroy on.
Okay, he's retro Ontario.
He sure is.
And he's going to tie into something later, because I've got your jams loaded up.
And one of your jams actually is going to lead to like, I'm going to surprise you with
some bonus jams.
Okay.
And some info I learned from the aforementioned FOTM Hall of Famer, Ed Conroy.
I miss him.
I mean, I've never met him, but listening to him on your show and like just, you know,
sort of knowing him.
Actually, he sent me, he was really nice.
I reached out to him after he was on your show at one point and he mailed me a polka
dot door album.
He's like, he's a sweetheart.
Yeah.
No, he's a good boy.
He moved like out of town.
He used to be in Toronto and now he's a further away, but I do bump into him now and then.
Okay.
So since you're a regular though, you might've heard me tell people you got to get right
on that mic.
So, but we can move this back.
No, it's okay.
Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
Now I'm going to smash your teeth.
Man, okay.
So I've got so many questions.
Firstly, let's just talk about the t-shirt you're wearing right now.
Okay, so we are going to take a photo after this, but it's Hawksley Night in Canada.
Yep.
Hawksley Workman has become an absolute, like a friend.
He's a fantastic FOTM like yourself.
I've never met him.
So how do you score that t-shirt?
Like how did you get introduced to Hawksley Nightingale?
Through you.
Okay, he owes me a commission.
I mean, really, it was an episode or two
that you had done with him.
Did you do a Christmas show with him?
You did like, there was...
Okay, we had an open Zoom
and he was part of that open Zoom, I think.
I think that's how embedded he is in the FOTM.
Well, it was a show that he did on his own with you.
Oh.
And maybe it wasn't.
Near Christmas.
Maybe it was a near Christmas.
But anyways, I just loved the whole conversation.
It was so good to me.
And I'm not that familiar with his music,
but I am more familiar now.
And I know he'd done work with Carol Pope as well.
And they're good friends.
And she's mentioned him over the years.
But then I went to his website and I saw this shirt.
I was like, I need that shirt. So I ordered the shirt.
You're getting an
exclusive here, Rob, but we came this close.
Hawksley wanted to start a podcast
called Hawksley Night in Canada. I was going to
produce it. The reason
it never happened was because he has a fear
of getting cancelled for being like
not that he's going to do anything.
He's like a reasonable progressive man
but like
he's so afraid
of what he might say
on an open mic
like every week
on his show
he shut it down
because he was afraid
like if he was unfiltered
Huxley Workman
could get himself cancelled
he would be amazing
I know
and that's no way to live
you can't live with fear
no I know
you know
well hey
I gotta say
if I think about Huxley workman if i think about rob
pruse who i'm meeting now for the first time and then i'm also gonna throw another guy in this pile
blair packham yes these are three people i only met when they came over to be guests on my show
who have become buddies uh i mean two of you are going to be involved on thursday which we'll talk
about later at tmlxx but like you, it seems to me, sort of like Tyler
Stewart of the Barenaked Ladies, a band
I'm going to see tonight. Amazing.
So after I record with you, we take our photo, I post
it, I jump on my bike and I go to
Budweiser's stage. But these are the people who
get it. I mean, there's so many more people, but
if you get it, you get it. Rob, you get
it. Well, I feel like
it's you just, maybe it's
our nature of this this world
that we live in you know and i don't know there's maybe there's something about your enthusiasm for
all the things that you bring to your show that i recognize it's like like you said it feels like
a kid you know i don't fake it right like if i'm not interested in a subject i don't i don't do it
like i don't have people on like really it's like I'm seeking this out because I'm legit interested in talking to this person
about this subject.
I'm now going to hand Rob Pruce his Toronto Mike sticker
from StickerU, StickerU.com.
Rob, here you go.
Oh, thank you.
Don't spill that beer.
No.
Not on the board here.
Just one?
How many do you need?
Can I get four?
I've never done this before.
Really?
I really feel this warm warmly i'm bringing
them back to new york that's why okay yeah four sticker you stickers just made their way sticker
you is going to be at tmlx x2 of some sticker swag nice so uh that'll be cool okay so how's
your great lakes my great lakes is really good okay because they're hosting tmlxx but more on
that in a moment uh actually here so i'm going to read a little quote though from a guy named cam
and it's not Cam Gordon
because then we're going to talk
more about Toronto Mike
because it's all about me
and then we're going to
kick out the jams or whatever.
I'm on the mic.
It gives me more bass in my voice.
Oh yeah,
you've got big balls there.
I can hear them.
The balls are in my headphones.
Okay.
Cam says,
I'm placing my order
at Palma Pasta
for pickup this weekend, Mike.
You got my whole family hooked.
We haven't found anything that comes anywhere
close. Great sponsors.
So Cam, thank you for
the DM. And again, that's not Cam Brio
or Cam Gordon. That's a third Cam.
A third Cam.
That's my son would say.
Mike is for microphone.
Stu is for studio.
Cam is for camera.
Do you listen to Toast?
Yes. Okay, you hesitated there. No. Do you listen to Toast? Yes.
Okay, you hesitated there.
No, because I had to think it's you, Stu, and Cam.
It's Pandemic Fridays.
Basically, we just-
The last one with the puppets?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
You guys had me at hello.
It was so good.
What are your favorite cartoon or puppet jams?
Putting you on the spot here.
Yeah, no.
Sugar, sugar.
That's Andy Kim.
Well, Banana Splits aren't a puppet.
They're not puppets.
They were dudes in costumes.
But they kind of fell into that genre a little bit.
That's as much a puppet as Elf.
Yeah.
And Kim's kicking out Elf.
Elf's not a puppet.
There's a guy in that suit.
That's true.
But Banana Splits was the first melody,
first little song I ever played on a piano
when I was five. See, I feel I just missed Banana Spl banana splits because you did you're a little bit mid-70s
although you look younger than me uh rumor has it you're older than me because i did the math
on that one okay so that was uh yeah that was great the uh the cartoons the episode was good
and then the kid the clincher at the end with fievel. I know. Oh my God. I must bury the lead here. So Fievel phones in.
And yeah,
that was wild.
Fievel from Fievel Goes West.
Yeah.
And American Tail.
American,
that's the big one,
right?
And we,
you know,
we played,
was it somewhere out there?
And then,
you know,
I heard that hitch in the voice
and then he talked about how,
yeah.
That's the cutest thing
because,
you know,
you think on that recording,
like, God, how did they get that kid to be so cute?
And you realize when you work with children,
you have to just be recording at all times
because you don't know what you're going to get.
And then you go back after the fact
and you get the good stuff.
You don't know when they're going to be cute.
No, and neither do they
because most of the time they're not.
What other, you know,
this is my first time with you
to have a real conversation here.
Like, what other episodes of Toronto know this is my first time with you to have a real conversation here like what other episodes of Toronto Mike
do you love
like do you
do you enjoy
the Brother Bill
Cam Gordon
Progressive Past
because there's so many
different flavors
of Toronto Mike
I'm always curious
I do I love those
I loved your
Jeannie Becker episode
okay
yeah I mean
I mean it's
what I like is that
I can dip in
to listen to people
that I don't really know
who they are
but I know it's going to be a good conversation anyways.
So, like, when I see people I recognize,
I think that's going to be good.
Musicians always.
Okay.
Dan Hill, you know this name?
Dan Hill? Yeah, sometimes when we touch.
How
much is the honesty? It's too much.
He's on my show next week. No, really?
Yeah, now I i'm gonna give you
some teasers here let me go i almost met him once where did you almost meet him um i was derrick our
old spoons drummer and i did some recording we were in this documentary that was made in like
2007 it was like a history of canadian pop music like the new wave 80s right and there was a like a premiere party for the
for the show i was screened on cbc i think it was like a there was one done in the 70s and then
then we did the 80s one amazing um but at the opening it was at god it was a bar i forget what
it's called the it was a hotel was there's a hotel that's like got a bar i don't know
uh not the drink no it wasn't the beverly um i don't remember because i don't know. Not the Drake. No, it wasn't the Beverly. I don't remember because I don't spend enough time here anymore.
But anyways, Dan Hill was...
Gladstone.
No, but maybe.
What street are we on?
Are we on Queen Street?
Okay, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
But anyways, Dan Hill was...
You're like me.
You get bogged down in those details.
Yeah.
You're like, it doesn't matter.
I'm like, it does matter.
But it was the Dan Hill thing.
He was there.
Okay.
And I saw him and I was like, there's Dan Hill.
But I didn't actually meet him.
But he's a big part of my childhood.
Okay, so he's a musician coming up.
And I'm kind of excited about this.
This is Ron Hawkins from Lowest of the Low.
Stephen Stanley, who wasn't Lowest of the Low
and now has his own band.
And Chris Brown from the Bourbon Tabernacle Choir.
And they're all coming in, all three on the same show.
In person?
Yeah, in person.
They're all three going to be... I don't know how I'm going to fit three here, but I'm going to figure it out. How do you decide when you're going to go in the all three on the same show. In person? Yeah, in person. They're all three going to be,
I don't know how I'm going to fit three here,
but I'm going to figure it out.
How do you decide when you're going to go
in the backyard, by the way?
Oh, that's usually, this summer it's been by request.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
I would have requested it.
Oh, okay, okay.
Next time.
But it was raining all day.
I know.
But then it did clear up.
But okay, because Roger Christian,
who was on last week.
Oh my God, he was amazing.
Okay, yeah.
You know what?
I'm a little, because you know,
you do an episode and there's all this feedback. Yeah. You meet God, he was amazing. Okay, yeah. You know what? I'm a little, because you know, you do an episode
and there's all this feedback.
Yeah.
And there's like a few notes about,
like somebody even said
it's the best episode
he's ever heard at Toronto Mike.
But I was surprised
there wasn't more feedback.
I don't know if people
are just behind
or if you have to,
but I think the Roger Christian episode
of Toronto Mike
is like next level.
Yeah.
These stories and who he is
and what he did.
Well, who he is
and what he's done, right?
It's ridiculous.
Like, I mean,
in the history of pop culture
and to be connected
to Star Wars like that,
like, get out.
Yeah, it was unbelievable.
And he requested back here.
He did.
He looks like a really cool guy too.
He looks like an old rock star.
Like, you know.
And he's well preserved
because the dude's 78 years old.
Wow.
He looks like he's like 58.
Hey, do you remember Hal Harbour from CFNY?
Of course.
He's in the calendar later this month.
Neat.
That'll be neat.
Skipping over the obvious, there's a return of Farah Nasser,
and there's a Gare Joyce is coming back.
John Biner is making his Toronto Mike debut in September.
John Biner?
From Bizarre.
The impressionist guy?
The guy.
Oh my God.
I remember his name
and I can sort of picture him in my mind.
Well, I mean.
From childhood.
Now I'm thinking, you know,
I talked about,
I'm going to Barenaked Ladies
and the first Barenaked Lady
I interviewed on Toronto Mike
was Tyler Stewart.
And he just,
he was already a fan of the show.
Oh, his episode was good too.
He was great.
Yes, he was really good.
He was great.
But you know, his job,
and you heard it in the episode,
but his first job was like
chauffeuring Super Dave Osborne
around like aging court and stuff.
And Super Dave, of course, I believe,
he debuted on Bizarre, I believe.
Yeah, I think you're right.
So it all comes,
we're going to find out more things there.
And just shout out a couple more
because Steve Paikin's in the calendar.
By Divine Right,
Jose Contrera.
Do you know his name?
Okay.
Nope.
Okay.
And I'll throw a couple more at you here.
Actually, now we're at case.
Andrew Stoughton.
He's Stoughton.
He's a Blue Jays writer.
Okay.
Lots of good stuff coming up though.
Okay.
You've always got good guests.
Thank you.
And you can count on it.
Like even if you don't know who the person is, you should just tune in.
Well, they passed my little acid test
which is
am I interested
in a conversation
with this person
and if it's yes
but again
why am I here
it's the weirdest
are you kidding me
why did it take so long
for you to make that drive
from Queens
to Canada
okay so we have jams
and I you know
I have to do something
after this
so we can't talk all day
about Toronto Mike
but obviously
as we talk
just enter
you know
sprinkle in any anecdotes.
Okay, I can tell you
why I was 30 minutes late.
Yep.
I want to hear it.
I miscalculated
where I was coming from.
And how come you're not
coming from Burlington?
Because I,
here's what I'm doing.
Next week,
I'm coming back to town
because I'm going to play
with Rough Trade
with Carol Pope
and Rough Trade
at the El Macombo.
How do I get a media pass?
Call me.
I'll cover it for you.
Give me your number. Give me your details and I'll get you in touch with my people that's amazing yeah i'm creaming my jeans just thinking about it uh-huh she so i was rehearsing with um kevin staples the other
half of rough trade of course never met kevin before like until this afternoon so we had a
rehearsal this afternoon as place in the east end of town. You're meeting all your heroes on the same day. Seriously, it's true.
Him and you.
That rhymes.
But it was me and Kevin Staples and Tim Walsh,
who's the guitar player as well.
So we were just kind of like, you know,
sketching through the songs because I've never played with them before.
Kevin Hearn normally has done gigs with them,
but he's not available for this Elmo gig.
Probably doing, I don't know.
I'm going to see him tonight so I can talk to him.
Yeah, I'll yell at him.
I'm in the 200s.
Hey,
Kevin,
what about doing
this rough trade thing?
Exactly.
So I miscalculated
coming from Kevin Staple's
place here
and I forgot how
the traffic is
not so good in Toronto.
Coming across the city
like that,
it sucks here.
So because I promised
Mark Wiseblood,
do you listen to the
Mark Wiseblood episodes
of Toronto?
I listened to one recently.
So they're three hours long, but you
you're of the opinion that the more
the merrier when it comes to Wise Blood. Okay.
He said, don't forget to play this. He thinks it's
a highly underrated jam. He played it when
the director of Lethal Weapon passed away.
Oh. Richard Donner.
But you're on this particular track.
That's me playing on there, yeah.
That was the first. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
When love's alive, it sets you free.
When it's gone, it's plain to see.
How even love can become a lethal weapon.
Wow.
When you lose control and you scare yourself sometimes.
This is honeymoon sweet, everybody.
It sure is.
When you really don't care.
Yeah.
Wow.
That your life is only life. Rob, what were you going to say about this jam? Lethal Weapon. Lethal Weapon. Wow.
Rob, what were you going to say about this jam, Lethal Weapon?
Lethal Weapon.
That was the first song that I recorded with Honeymoon Suite.
I had joined the band a few months before, well, like four months or so before,
but we got asked to record this song from our record label, from Warner Brothers.
They wanted a label band to do this song. It was written by Michael Kamen,
who did the score for the film.
I believe Eric Clapton,
in my memory, it was Michael Kamen
and Eric Clapton wrote the song.
So they sent us a demo of the song,
and then we were like, really?
This? Okay.
It was a ballad, balladee.
But then we were working with the producer Ted Templeman.
This was the first time we worked with Ted
the label wanted to put us together with him
and we flew down to LA
this was early, like January 87
and we got a screening of the film
it wasn't quite put together
we got to meet the director Richard Donner
Richard Donner, he just passed away
shout out to Ridley Funeral Home
I'm doing your job for you
thank you, I was wondering if you'd hit the beat.
So we got a screening of the film and then we went into the studio
and recorded the song with Ted
and it was super cool.
And yeah,
I think it's a great song.
Like,
people ask for it.
I mean,
I haven't played with Honeymoon Suite
in several years,
but I know when I did,
people always wanted to hear it
and they thought it was a cool song
because it's nice.
Yeah.
Heck,
you know,
and again,
we're just dedicating this jam
because it's the end of the 1236 era
at St. Joseph Media.
So next week,
so normally Mark Weisblatt visits
the first Thursday of the month
for three hours.
But this first Thursday of the month
is TMLX Day.
It sure is.
So he's going to come a week later.
So everybody, September 8th,
Mark Weisblatt will be here for three hours.
We'll find out what the hell is up with 1236.
And there's a lot of Lisa Laflamme talk and John Derringer and all this stuff we got to cover.
So don't you dare miss it.
Okay, let's briefly talk about TMLXX before I kick out your first jam.
Okay.
Are you, Rob Pruce, are you attending TMLX on Thursday night
from six to nine at Great Lakes Brewery?
Yes.
Okay.
Came up just for that.
And then it turned out that I got the rough trade gig as well
and it worked out to come here.
Is that true?
You came up for that and then it all,
so that's a karma, right?
I built my life around you.
Yeah.
Are you, because the way it's structured is,
okay, so from six to 6.30,
that's where you eat your Palma Pasta,
you get your free beer,
and there's a lot of chit-chat and mingling.
Okay, people are like,
oh my God, is that Stew Stone?
You know, all that, you know,
oh my God, Peter Gross is here.
Are we all going to have name tags
that say hi, my name is,
so we know who we are?
Lieve Fumke is responsible for the name tags.
So she's taking that responsibility very seriously.
Cool.
And she'll be all over that.
Everyone gets a token for the complimentary beer from our hosts. Nice. And then after that, tags so she's taking that responsibility very seriously and she'll be all over that everyone
gets a token for the complimentary beer from our hosts and then after that it's only five bucks a
beer after so uh so you start with one yeah you get one yeah and then you're on the house yeah
then you five bucks a can and uh go nuts go crazy unless you're driving then don't go crazy yeah but
uh the palm of past is on the house amazing Amazing. And here's my thought, Rob.
At some point between 6.30 and 7,
would you be able to perform something on the keyboards?
Yeah.
So did you want to surprise us
or did you want to tell us what you're thinking?
I'm not going to tell you because I have no idea.
But you don't want it to be like a focused thing.
You don't want everybody to turn their attention to me.
I like to be the piano player who's in the corner who nobody's listening to.
That's up to you.
Okay.
So fine.
You can do that.
People can still mingle and chat.
That would make me happier.
I think here's, so I think, yes.
So Blair Packham, he wants to focus on him.
He's very different than you, Rob.
Yeah.
I think the plan is seven o'clock will be, so you're doing something that at 7 o'clock,
I make a little speech,
but basically it's just introduced the Mind Blow competition,
the inaugural Mind Blow.
Did you work on your Mind Blow for the Mind Blow competition?
I have some thoughts.
Okay, good.
But I'll have to wait and see how it's structured, I guess.
Well, basically people put up their hand,
FOTMs put up their hand,
and then they go to the microphone,
and they deliver the mind blow.
And then me, I don't even know if I'm a true judge.
I think the true judges are Stu Stone and Cam Gordon.
But we'll all do a little peanut gallery commentary.
Like Waldorf, who are the two guys on the Muppets?
Statler and Waldorf.
Statler and Waldorf, right.
We'll do a little commentary on the mind blow.
And at the very end of it all, we'll announce winners.
Anthony Picucci from
Palma Pasta will be
there with a big
a real prize for the
winner and I think
Hannah Cabana's got a
prize too.
There might be two
winners.
It depends on how
many prizes we have
but that's going to
take us to like seven
I don't know 745 or
something.
Well it depends how
many people have
Mind Blows.
Do people have to
like sign up for the
Mind Blow or did
they just put their
hand up?
Put up your hand.
Come to the mic.
Deliver your Mind Blow.
Then Blair Packham
is going to perform a few songs.
You can guess one of them.
Yes.
Maybe there'll be keyboards on there.
I just had an idea.
There might be.
There might be.
The possibilities are in.
So excited.
And then...
I played on that song, you know.
You know what?
The original.
I knew that,
then I forgot I knew that
and that's a Mind Blow right there. Blair forgot it too. I know. Save that for Thursday night.. You know what? The original. I knew that, then I forgot I knew that. And that's a mind blow right there.
Blair forgot it too.
I know.
Save that for Thursday night.
Okay.
Yeah, that's right.
You know, I play on this, right, Blair?
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Blair's in, speaking of, again, it's all back to Barenaked Ladies because I'm seeing them
tonight.
But Blair Packham is one of the people you hear in that chorus during, if I had a million
dollars, if I, he's one of the voices.
That's cool. isn't that a weird
fun fact okay it's all tying in together what a weird world we have okay so then blair packham
takes us to like i don't know 740 he's gonna take us to like 820 because he how many songs is he
gonna play i think a few but he's got a good rap on him and he's a big he's an fotm who gets it so
i can envision like a Wise Blood impersonation
and maybe a Molly Johnson joke.
Like who knows, right?
Okay.
And then,
and she's the best by the way.
So it'll be at her expense.
It'll be at my expense.
Okay.
So at about 8.20,
I think I'm going to make
a little speech
and then a surprise musician,
FOTM musician
is going to take us home
at 8.30.
Cool.
With some acapella jams.
Cool.
Hopefully the sun is starting,
like it's getting dark at that point
and it will be dark.
September, yeah.
It'll be, yeah, right.
I just, I was just at the Pinery,
which is on Lake Huron
and you basically set your alarm.
You don't miss the sunsets.
So it's like I'm at that beach
for 8 p.m. for the sunset.
So like that's the best sunsets in the province.
Okay, I'm all over the place,
but we're going to get to your jam.
Is this going to be rain or shine too?
Rain or shine.
We have a bunch of tents if it rains,
but right now it looks clear and 23.
Like right now it's perfect.
Nice.
And just so you know,
because I've been warning the FOTMs,
I don't want to see Canada Kev
sparking up a doobie on the Great Lakes.
There's a strict no smoking policy at Great Lakes Beer.
No smoking anything.
You can't smoke anything, right?
It's not a weed thing.
No cigarettes, no weed, no vaping.
And we respect our hosts, Great Lakes.
They're doing a great job.
We don't want to get them in trouble.
So there will be, those interested,
there will be an after party at a nearby park at nine o'clock.
And you can smoke as much weed as you want.
Is it a walkable park?
Yeah, it's walkable.
Okay, that's really cool.
And it's in this area, right?
It's not far from here. Yeah, it's Etobicoke. This it a walkable park? Yeah, it's walkable. Okay, that's really cool. And it's in this area, right? It's not far from here. Etobicoke.
Yeah, it's Etobicoke. This is a beautiful area.
30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard
is where Great Lakes is and we're going to go like a titch
north to Queensway. It's kind of like
Royal York and Queensway, the park where we're
all going to collect. Okay, that's enough about
TMLXX. So glad
you're going to be there, Rob.
I want to thank really quickly here.
Thank Canada Cabana. We're going to see Andy, Rob. I want to thank really quickly here. Thank Canada Cabana.
We're going to see Andy on Thursday night.
EPRA, I have a call
of them tomorrow to see what they can contribute, but
they're the newest sponsors. Electronic Product Recycling
Association. Good for you.
Recycling your old tech.
Cliff Hacking there is going to come over and kick out
the jams next month, which will be amazing.
And who am I?
Yeah, shout out to ridley funeral home brad
jones will be there for sure i gotta tellers of the community look at you i love it i love it when
there's a person who listens on the first time you said that i thought you said killers of the
community well that's how they get their uh prospects i know you know that's yep everybody's
gotta go sometime it's like dexter yeah and it's funny because the actor who played dexter
previously played uh david Six Feet Under,
who was an Undertaker.
So, look, Rob, you're blowing my mind right now.
Okay.
I think I'm ready to go.
I'm going to ask you a very important question right now, Rob,
and then we're going to get rocking here.
All right.
Are you, Rob Pruce, ready to kick out the jams?
Kick them. kick em A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- I wish people could see you right now,
but if I stream this on Facebook,
I get hit with these DMCA...
Yeah, for sure.
It doesn't work right.
That's why we have the pirate stream.
Thank you.
Ian Service, who will be there Thursday night as well.
Alleycat. Talk to well. Alley Cat.
Talk to me about Alley Cat.
So this is Liberace.
This was one of my earliest inspirations.
You sort of said, put together songs that have sort of helped shape you in your life in some way.
And that is a never-ending stream of music.
It's nothing but music, right?
Wow.
So I sort of had to find some way to focus and sort of corral it all together.
And it ended up being more or less,
as we go on, you'll see that it's more or less
like a little bit of a focus
on some of my earlier new wave stuff,
which sort of felt a little bit like
an extension of our progressive past
of Modern Melodies episode.
Right.
Because I always feel like that never ends
when you start looking at a specific genre.
But I decided to go back to Liberace because this was where it all began for me in terms of
like listening to a record and recognizing the sound of the piano and realizing that like that's
the thing i'm like when i play this piano that's a piano and i was making these connections to music
on the radio and you know with records and then my mom and my grandmother took me to see liberace
at hamilton place when I was seven.
So he was like just one of my early inspirations.
It was Liberace.
Because you lived in Burlington.
Yeah.
Right.
And Hamilton Place was pretty new.
In fact, that might have been like the first year it was open when I was seven or I think seven or eight.
Yeah.
So I've always loved that song.
There's something just for me magical about the sound of that because it's got this 1950s sort of slapback echo on the piano, which is unheard of.
And I don't even know when this was actually recorded,
but it was on an album
called Mr. Showmanship.
So where would you stumble upon Liberace?
Like, was it a record
in your grandmother's collection
or something?
Probably my mom's collection
or my grandmother's collection.
Yeah.
And yeah, it just happened to be there.
But I think that I sort of
like took advantage of the record
and it became mine
and i put it on all the time and then i had another one as well and then i was getting more
into um like i had my earliest collection was liberace mr showmanship i had sesame street
the first record i i am the sesame street generation okay so my uh what is because i had
a sesame street fever what was the first one oh no Oh, no. You're way later. You look great.
Am I allowed to ask your age?
56.
Yeah, you know what?
Fuck it all.
Yeah, but you look great.
Thanks.
You know, you look as good as Roger Corman.
Oh, sorry, Roger Corman.
Roger Corman's a future.
No, Roger Christian.
Who's 70-something?
You're aging like racist.
He's 78.
You look as good as...
Hey, listen, man.
That first jam, you earned a...
It's like a flashlight.
Really?
Ridley Funeral Home wants you to stay safe in the dark.
That's for you, Rob.
Thank you.
You've earned that, buddy.
Amazing.
Okay.
This is super cool.
And so you look, honestly, you look like you're in your 40s.
Like, I mean, FOTMs will agree with me when they meet you on Thursday night at TMLXX.
Okay.
Well, love and music has kept me young.
Do you bathe in like Evian water or something? What's the secret there don't know i don't know what i'm doing wrong okay and the hair you're
dying that hair oh it's totally bleached okay yeah my wife does it i can't stand it because when i
when i i veer between like letting it be natural and it's your if i had to carry your color i would
keep it so i have the natural highlights mine is like salt and peppery and then some parts are
darker and then it just bothers cool too it's yeah but i i keep it short and then i look at it you're also
you're a rock star i'm not a rock star well i got the billy idol thing going on i guess yeah i get
sick of it and then i grow it out then i get roots and you know it's a whole thing but i've lived
with i've lived with bleached hair for 40 years so i'm used to it you know okay honestly you're
inspiring me i want to bleach my hair now yours looks cool I like it keep mine like it is okay are you ready
for your second jam yes
gonna have more
cowbell there it is
who else is going from Liberace to Rush? me. I'll tell you all my lies.
Hey, baby,
it's a quarter to eight.
I feel I'm in the mood.
Hey, baby, the
hour is late. I feel
I've got to move.
Getty, Getty.
Getty, Getty. I've got to shout out my buddy I'm fading on the wrong podty. I got to shout out my buddy.
Oh, I'm fading on the wrong pod.
I got to shout out my buddy Hebzyman,
who's a late mother who just passed away a couple of weeks ago.
With summer?
No.
Yeah, you winter.
You winter in Florida.
Okay.
You winter with like Getty Lee's mom.
Oh, cool.
And he'd be talking about his son who's in this rock and roll band.
Getty, Getty.
Getty.
Yeah, we heard that story how he got his name Getty. Amazing. From his this rock and roll band. Getty, Getty. We heard that story
how he got his name Getty
from his grandmother.
Right.
Talk to me about Rush.
This sounds amazing.
I just love this song.
I think just going back
and sort of building forward
from the sounds of my childhood
and what was sort of sparking my mind
to focus on music
and listen to music.
I was obsessed with the radio
and listening to whatever was
on the top 40.
I was listening always to CKOC from Hamilton
was my station.
Is that 1150?
1150 CKOC, yep.
And you could call and request at 645-3281
or 547-1150 or Zenith 55100.
Those were the numbers in my head forever.
Do you think I'm making a mistake?
Because when I did 1021 and i did 1071 and i
did 1050 so 1150 it's coming up and i have no plans to do anything special because i don't know
the station at all but should i be doing a special 1150 no nevin grant passed away a few years ago
and he was ckoc so if you can't get him on 1150 don't bother doing it you could get some good
djs though like there were good guys from from 1150 who moved on to, like,
Jim Reed from CFNY started off at CKOC.
Roger Ashby started there way back in the day.
Roger might have been on Chum, too, though.
Well, Roger Ashby went to, yeah,
he went to 1050 from CKOC.
Did he? Okay.
In the late 60s, I think.
But anyways, so I've always loved Rush,
and I think this was, like, the first Rush song
that I remember hearing on the radio when I was a kid.
And I mean, they changed so much as the years went on.
And this is a pretty straight ahead kind of a song.
But it's just one of those songs that always,
when I think of Rush and I think of my earliest association with Rush,
this is the song that jumps in my head.
And if I may shout you out, Rob Bruce,
because you're like, I don't know,
the hundred and something person to kick out the jams.
But typically I get like a
DM or an email with a list of songs
and I'll be like rush in the mood
and then I go source them out and I load them up or whatever
and then I find out they wanted
a specific live version and I'm like
why didn't you just link me to the version
you wanted but okay what I like what you did
and I'm going to tell you but you literally
put the 10 mp3s
in a folder you zipped up.
You numbered them.
Yeah.
You shared the zip with me.
I literally just had to unzip
and load them in the soundboard.
The numbers are all there.
One of them I did boost,
but we'll talk.
That's okay.
One of them I boosted,
but honestly,
you went above and beyond
and I want to thank you for that.
You are very welcome.
It was fun.
And I mean,
I felt the pressure
because I knew I was going to be driving up
and I had to work on these rough trade songs and i had all these different things going
on um and i just wanted to get those songs organized and i thought it's easier if i just
make you a folder how's carol doing she's great it was such a zany fun chat i had with her yeah
because her internet conked out and then we reconnected and i think i had her killer video
because she was just a shadowy figure anyways on the Zoom
and the internet was bad as it was.
But I always felt like it was one of those episodes
where at the beginning,
I thought maybe this will be one of those beers off on me,
which is very few and far between.
But then like the ship righted itself
and it turned great.
But how is she doing?
She's great.
I just talked to her on the phone
when I was driving yesterday.
I called her up and it was so funny
because I was driving
and she had sent me
a text message
and I thought,
I'm going to just call her.
You know,
people don't really call
out of the blue
as much anymore
as we used to.
And I was driving
and I had another friend
who just moved out
to Halifax
and I thought,
I'm going to just call him.
It seems like these days
everybody's making plans
to connect.
How about if I give you
a call around one o'clock
and then you're ready
for the phone call?
Right.
In the old days, you had to just call the person.
And if they were home, they were home.
Now you get the text like, hey, available chat or whatever.
It's like, why don't you just call me?
Yeah.
And if I'm available, I'll answer.
Right.
So the new way is you just try, you say, damn the torpedoes and I'm going to call you.
And then if you answer, you answer.
So I called Carol.
She left, I left her a message because she was on another call, but then she did call
me back and I talked to her.
So.
And you said, Mike says hi.
He's like, Mike who?
She's good though.
We've been friends for like,
it's around 20 years now that I ran into her in New York City.
We had both just moved to New York and I was in a store
and she was in there shopping and I was with a friend
and I said, that's Carol Pope.
And my friend said, I don't know who that is.
And I said, you don't know.
Of course, because you're American,
you don't know who Carol Pope is.
And so I sort of went up and I introduced myself to. And I said, you don't know. Of course, because you're American, you don't know who Carol Pope is. And so I sort of went up
and I introduced myself to her.
I said,
you probably don't remember me,
but you,
and then she did remember
that we had met many years ago.
Blah, blah, blah.
Those Americans.
Yeah.
It's like you speak a different language
when you speak Canadian, right?
There's all these like,
you know,
like what's a,
what's a,
what's a,
what's a blue rodeo?
Like what's a Jeannie Becker?
What are these things?
Okay.
Your third jam, Rob.
Here we go.
Oh, yeah.
I like the slow build on this one.
Somebody out there is going, oh, my God, I love this song.
Because they know.
It's Hoxley Workman.
That's right.
I hope.
Or maybe Blair Packham. guitar solo Here comes more cowbell.
Woo! I'm at the top of all the charts I'm on
I'm a spaceship superstar
All right, what are we listening to here?
Tell me, Rob.
Prism, Spaceship Superstar.
1976, 77, I believe.
Early days of the increasing use of synthesizers in popular music
and coming through the land of rock and roll.
And every time I heard a synth on the radio,
my ears pricked up.
Because first it started with just piano,
you know, Liberace, Elton John, whatever.
Then there was electric pianos,
then there were clavinets,
and then synthesizers were creeping in
a little bit more and more and more.
And this song has a great synthesizer solo
coming up as well.
So I don't think I was yet in a band at this point,
but I was tuning into it, like I was getting ready for it, I think. Because I wasn't, I don't think I was yet in a band at this point, but I was tuning into it like I was getting ready
for it, I think.
Because I realized,
oh man,
all these electric instruments
or keyboards
and I'm playing a piano.
There's something for me here.
And you're like a prodigy.
Well, at this point,
I was 11.
I was in a band already.
So I was tuning in.
I was in a band.
That's amazing.
It was like a kid playing hockey.
I mean, for me.
Oh, here comes the synth solo.
Okay, here we go. Wow. Woo! Come on!
I still can't play it.
Wow.
I can airplay it.
And then it just ends.
Who does that on the radio these days?
This is, like like unheard of.
It's magic.
Like it's the sound of the future.
Yeah, well, spaceship superstar,
it is the sound of the future, man.
That's like your rocket ship.
Yeah, you hopped on board.
You hopped on board
and the sounds were otherworldly
because they were electronic instruments
that were, you know, not of this earth, but they were of this earth man-made.
But it was the time of like Star Wars and space travel was, you know, I think I feel like our childhood.
We still had the magic of space travel was like in our dreams, like which was an extension of like people who came from like the Western dreams of like cowboys and exploring the frontiers.
And then we got to the exploring space.
Kids now are just bored. You know what I mean? Now, if the screen, if the screen freezes up, they're bored. of like cowboys and exploring the frontiers and then we got to the exploring space.
Kids now are just bored.
You know what I mean?
Now if the screen,
if the screen freezes up,
they're bored.
But like,
who has patience to listen to a song
with a synthesizer solo
to end the song?
Like kids now,
I don't know.
No one's got any patience now.
No one's got any patience.
But it's not just
the younger people.
No, I know.
You're right.
Older people too.
Like I produced
Humble and Fred show.
Did you ever appear
on Humble and Fred show?
Never did.
That was after your time actually because, because they started in 89.
Okay.
Because I noticed a couple of instances later where they have like, oh, what happened to
their patience?
Like they basically moved on from a guest yesterday because she connected via Zoom and
her mic wasn't working right away.
And it was like, I noticed like 30 seconds, like, okay, we'll reschedule you.
Like we're moving on.
And I'm like, oh, just like a little like calmly work with her we'll reschedule you like we're moving on and I'm like I'll just like a little
like calmly work with her
she can probably connect
it real quick or whatever
and then today
Fred's computer crashed
and they said
okay we're not doing
an episode today
and I'm like
oh what's happened
everybody's patience
like no one has patience anymore
life's moving faster
and faster for everybody
it's true
okay I love it
when I listen to that
I hear like a Manfred Mann vibe
totally
yeah yeah
blinded by the light
it's exactly the same era the keyboard that 16th sort of the moving thing I love it. When I listen to that, I hear like a Manfred Mann vibe. Totally. Yeah, yeah. Blinded by the Light.
It's exactly the same era.
The keyboard, that 16th, sort of the moving thing that just kind of is relentless, you know?
Yeah.
You reminded me also that Gowan's episode was fantastic.
Gowan.
I heard, I saw your tweet.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I can't remember.
Was it Facebook?
I don't remember.
Okay, I think it's Facebook.
One of those things.
Because I follow you on Facebook and you were tweeting.
Yeah, you heard Moonlight Desire.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. Well, Moonlight Desire. Oh my God. Yeah.
Well, Moonlight Desire.
But on your show, you played Criminal Mind.
Yeah, both.
I think, yeah, Criminal Mind and Strange.
I just love the way you played the whole song because I hadn't heard the song.
I hadn't specifically just-
Oh, you mean at the end?
No, it was like during the show, during the episode.
And I hadn't really listened to it in a long time.
And it really moved me.
Okay, you want to know a secret?
I added that in post. Good for you. And I never, you want to know a secret? I added that in post.
Good for you.
And I never read it in any episode.
It was so...
I added that in post.
It was a good move.
I wasn't going to make Larry sit through his six minutes.
I've been practicing it on the piano
because it's very satisfying.
Maybe we'll hear it on Thursday.
Maybe I'll play snippets of it, yeah,
when nobody's paying attention to me.
I'm actually...
I'm not pissed.
That's not the right word.
I loved my Larry chat.
Yeah.
If I had known Larry was in Scarborough,
I would have held out for an in-person interview with Larry Gowan.
And I was told he was in the States on tour.
And this ties in a little bit with Jim Cuddy and Ed Robertson.
You went to Jim's place.
That was cool.
So Jim,
I went to his place,
right?
In Riverdale,
the woodshed.
And in person,
Jim Cuddy,
90 minutes. I'm like, oh yeah, I like this this because Jim matters to me and this was a great chat.
And then Ed Robertson was available before today's show.
Actually, that's why I'm going tonight.
This is the true story, okay?
So the management company is like, oh, Ed will come on your show
because I've been trying to get Ed literally for years.
And I've had a few members of that band but not Ed Robertson.
So where the hell's Ed?
And then it turns out Ed's on.
He's away until the concert.
So he'd have to Zoom in.
So it's like, okay, Ed needs to Zoom in.
And I stopped it.
I said, I am willing.
I've waited 10 years.
Literally this week is 10 years of trying to mic.
I've waited 10 years.
I'm not Zooming with Ed Robertson.
It's worth the wait.
I have CFNY questions.
I have so much I got to ask.
Sure.
Bookie, this and that, so many things.
I said, I will wait for Ed Robertson.
I don't care if I have to go to him or if he's coming to me,
but if I can bike there, we're going to do it.
So maybe it'll happen in December in person.
So I said no.
But this is the nice thing,
and this is the difference between Blue Rodeo and Barenaked Ladies.
I turned down Ed Robertson via Zoom.
The management sends me two tickets to the show tonight. This is the difference between Blue Rodeo and Barenaked Ladies, okay? I turned down Ed Robertson via Zoom. Yeah.
The management sends me two tickets to the show tonight.
Wow.
I didn't even have Ed on the show.
Wow.
I mean, wow, I bike to Riverdale, okay?
Barenaked Ladies were at Budweiser stage last, on the weekend, I think.
Blue Rodeo, you mean.
Blue Rodeo, sorry, thank you.
Blue Rodeo was at Budweiser stage like last week.
Yep.
And somebody said, oh, I guess you went to the show.
I got nothing. I got a glass of water right so no tickets for me and and but was it steve waxman who hooked you up finally with jim cuddy not with warner anymore right steve it was that's the
current warner guy right because when you had when you had kevin and steve on the show right
that was the conversation kevin and steve of course i worked with them for years uh steve
waxman worked with at ready years Steve Waxman worked
at Ready Records
when I was with the Spoons
and he came on board
probably like in our
Talkback era
and he was helping
he was like working with us
and then I knew Kevin Shea
when I was with Honeymoon Suite
and he was working with us
at Honeymoon Suite
in my experience
and this is episode 1104
there's been no nicer
and sweeter FOTM
in 10 years than Kevin Shea.
Yeah.
Like literally the nicest human,
one of the nicest humans I've ever encountered.
You're right up there by the way.
Okay.
So,
you know,
Kevin is a super cool guy and yeah,
he's one of those guys.
He just,
he leaves an impression on you straight away.
And I remember,
you know,
we would go up to the record company offices in,
they were like in Scarborough or whatever.
And you'd see all of them in their offices.
And then they had a warehouse in the back and the early days of cds i could go back there and like
they didn't give them to us but we could buy them at cost or whatever right and i would go through
this warehouse freaking out like to pick all the things i've never heard before so did you as a
keyboardist did you listen to jimmy holmstrom on toronto mike because no jimmy is the okay you got
to listen to this okay this was his name's Mike Ross. He's the public address announcer
when you see the Leafs
at the Scotiabank Arena.
Oh, I saw you right about now.
So Mike Ross
and Jimmy Holmstrom,
who's been the organist
at,
I don't know,
they call it organist,
but it's a keyboard.
It was at Maple Leaf Gardens
from 87,
now it's wherever,
Scotiabank Arena.
But he's been doing it
since 87.
Wow.
And we kick out his favorite
like keyboard jams.
Oh, cool.
Anyways, I will listen to it on my drive back to Queens. Okay like keyboard jams oh cool anyways i will do it
on my drive back to queens okay good that's all i need to do that all right fourth jam oh my god i
could talk to you all night i'm sorry sorry i'm gonna miss kim mitchell kim mitchell's opening
for kim mitchell's opening tonight yeah oh my god fotm kim mitchell who my mom i once he's playing
a show nearby yep and i said hey to my mom i said mom you want to go see kim m hey, to my mom, I said, mom, you want to go see Kim Mitchell? And my mom swear to you, this was the answer.
Oh, I love her music.
Thanks, mom.
And I haven't let her forget that.
Okay, here we go. I have a feeling I am growing old
I know only two
Well, my fire's out and I'm growing cold My heart aches, my story goes untold
Yesterday I thought that life was grand But I was proved wrong
Now I sit and hang my head into my hands And hope that someday they'll understand
Flowers were growing here, no
War, no
Warflowers were growing here, no
War, no.
Warflowers were growing here, no.
War, no.
War.
Rob, I must say, I don't know this jam.
You don't.
Flowers.
Yeah, did I miss it?
What is this?
This is Drastic Measures.
Toronto bands. Just before my time, I think. Just before miss it? What is this? This is Drastic Measures. Toronto band.
Just before my time, I think.
Just before your time.
What era?
What are we?
Early 80s?
1979, 1980.
Tony Malone.
I was listening to Sesame Street Fever.
That's right.
You were on that.
So Drastic Measures was a local band.
And Tony Malone was the lead singer, keyboard player.
He passed away like a month ago
we talked about him
because he went
on Facebook
he had some alternative beliefs
he did
controversially
he drove a lot of people crazy
I think in his later years
but I was a friend
and a fan
since I was 15
in my early spoons days
and we played at the Edge
and we did shows with them
and like opened for them
and I loved this album
like before we recorded our first album i
would listen to drastic measures they could they had a version of teddy bear's picnic which was
we played it yeah okay this was the most recent wise blood episode we played teddy bear's picnic
because i had the ann marie version i'm a hippo in my bathtub right and we totally in the ridley
funeral home memorial segment we totally paid our respects to tony nice yeah um and and i had been
in touch with him over the years
and I knew he was really ill.
I don't really know exactly what it was
that he passed away from,
but he was just a guy that I had such a fond,
early memory in my world of playing in clubs and stuff.
And this record was always super meaningful to me
and I just loved it.
So I thought it would be a cool song.
And I'm glad you kicked it out, actually.
I was going to ask you, so what's it like be a cool song and i'm glad you kick it out actually uh it's i was gonna
ask you so what's it like when your buddies are somebody and then they have these alternative
beliefs on facebook and stuff like like like how do you manage the relationship with that person
when you're being fed this i'm just curious i don't have an exact answer because that's a
question that that puzzles most people
in the world these days, right?
They talk about fake news and alternative beliefs
and alternative theories on things, whatever.
And I don't really know.
I can't completely dismiss a person
unless they become really belligerent about stuff.
But I'm happy to listen to anybody about what they believe
because nobody really knows anything.
And I think there's a foundation of truth
for us all to discover
that goes beyond politics
and goes beyond our daily life.
And that's a deeper question.
That's another episode.
That's a big one.
You'll have to come back to that one.
But Tony was definitely a guy
who would drive people crazy.
And I don't know why.
I don't understand that thing that drove him.
And people like to feel that way.
So I loved him for who I remembered him being.
And thinking, well, something's driving him to feel this way about the things he feels about.
And that's great for him.
Can't wait to kick out this jam.
I remember it well from a certain station.
Here we go.
I've got a rubber
in my wallet
One of those little
whatchamacallits
I'm saving it for that special day
When the right girl comes my way
It leaves a
circular impression
From all those years
of compression
I've had it since I turned 13 Circular impression From all those years of compression
I've had it since I turned 13
I got it in a vending machine
Cir-cir-circular impression
Leading to a state of depression
In my walla-walla-walla-walla wallet
I can't wait to install it
No, I can't wait
It's in a little tinfoil packet
Sometimes I'm tempted
Love it.
What are they singing about?
It's like, it's subtle.
Like, I don't know.
There's some subtext going on in this song.
Yeah, everybody.
Yeah, pro condom.
I love it.
Now, the extras, right?
Yeah, the extras.
Yeah, so I always hear this on CFNY.
They would play this jam, and I'm like, what is this song?
They were on our label, Ready Records,
and their album came out just before we released our first Spoons album.
And again, this was like we did shows with them at The Edge,
maybe Larry's Hideaway as well.
Shout out to the Garys.
Yeah, exactly.
Hi, Garys, Gary.
And this is just another
one of those records.
I would listen to it
and I would look at the record jacket
and think,
oh my God,
we're making a record now.
This is super cool.
I would listen to these.
I used to do it
with Rough Trade Records as well
and just put them on
and sort of think,
man,
we're going to have
a piece of vinyl ourselves.
Like, it's bizarre.
Wow.
You know?
Wow.
And you're so damn young
when this,
you're just a teenager.
I was 15.
Yeah.
I remember you telling me
to get a special note
to play clubs and stuff.
From a liquor control board.
I still have it, actually.
I got to scan it.
Oh, yeah.
You got to send that over my way.
Okay, Rob,
it's funny how things happen
in real time
with the live stream and stuff.
But someone heard us talking about Barenaked Ladies.
So is there a reason you're not attending the show tonight?
Oh, just because I'm going back to Burlington.
My sister is,
they've been renovating their new house
for months and months
and I'm sort of helping them
like organize stuff at the house.
And my parents,
they're like putting all these things together.
So it's a time thing.
You don't have time to see BNL tonight.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay.
Because I'm leaving in a couple of days after TML.
No, it makes sense.
But I will let you know that the wonderful Moose Grumpy offered you a ticket.
Really?
So there's a ticket for Rob Proust to see Barenaked Ladies tonight if you were interested.
I talked to Kevin Hearn a couple of days ago too.
And he's like, oh, I could maybe put you on the guest list.
But it's already, I think when you play your hometown, everybody comes out.
I'm already on that guest list.
Are you?
Yeah, everybody wants to go to the show.
So I said, don't worry about it
because I got to go back home.
It's okay.
Okay, so you'll pass on them this time.
You'll tell me how good they were.
Thank you, Moose Grumpy.
And Kim Mitchell.
Yeah, and Kim Mitchell.
She's great.
Tell your mom.
I reminder of that on the reg.
I think I told Kim Mitchell when he came on,
I told him that story too.
When I was in grade nine,
I think I was in a band when Max Webster were still a thing. And I remember walking home with my friend from school one day, vividly this conversation.
And we were talking about like musicians being older than us.
Cause we were like, you know, 13, 14.
We're like, man, Kim Mitchell is old.
He's like almost 30.
And at that time, like even now when I think about it, I can remember that feeling of thinking
30 is like miles away.
Now it's miles behind. Now it's miles behind.
Now it's miles behind.
Okay, let's kick out your one, two, three, four, five.
Let's kick out your sixth.
We're on six.
Sixth jam.
And thank you, Moose Grumpy.
Yeah, thank you, Moose, for the offer.
I'll text her to let her know that you can't make it,
but that's very kind of her. Oh, eyes on the sea lake
Remote control relay
Expecting nothing ordinary
Oh, I caught a message.
A long distance telegram.
Aye, aye.
Oh, for age on ice.
Strange to walk.
Come on, let's show all these birds.
I know we're pressing these thoughts. There's going on here? You're joking. I'm joking. I know you're joking. No idea who this band is, Rob.
What's going on here?
You're joking.
I'm joking.
I know you're joking.
Shout out to FOTM Gordon, FOTM Sandy.
Yeah, I got three of you in the collection here.
I also have three members of the Watchmen,
so I'm trying to collect some full sets here,
like full houses here.
But conventional beliefs.
Yep.
First song on our first album.
So this is like the world's introduction to our bands,
which I feel like somewhere I read this really cool article that talked about
like the first song of a band or an artist on their first record.
And it sort of sets the tone,
right?
Dude,
this is a topic I've wanted to do on toast for a long time.
You should do it.
The first song in the first album.
Exactly.
Sets the tone.
Yeah.
And, and like, as the years have gone by, I think The first song in the first album. Exactly. Sets the tone. Yeah. And like,
as the years have gone by,
I think about the song
in that way,
and I think,
it's super cool.
It's got all the elements
of our freaking band.
Like,
the things that made us
who we were.
Each of our simple
kind of lines
that Gord was playing,
like a simple guitar line.
Sandy's got the bass line
with the pedals
and my synth,
you know.
It's all there.
The recipe's there.
Yeah.
And this was actually the first song that I was a part of creating when I joined the band.
So when I joined the band, they'd already had like a couple of sets of music because they'd been around for about a year before.
Right.
And I was so nervous for like the next time that Gord was going to like come in with a new song to start working on.
And I thought, I've never like really worked on really original songs with like such cool people before
what am I going to do
and then this was
the first song
so and I feel like
it sort of
it like was the place
that we bounced off from
so like this song
like where would it get
where was it played
what kind of
exposure did it get
well this was on our
first album
Stick Figure Neighborhood
and it definitely
got played on CFNY
Jim Reed played it
like the first interview
Gord and I ever did
Jim used to have a show called Cooking with Guests from CFNY. Jim Reed played it. Like the first interview Gord and I ever did,
Jim used to have a show called Cooking with Guests from CFNY.
And so I'll never forget hearing this on the radio for the first time.
It was so weird.
But it didn't get any airplay other than like college stations.
And the album like went to number one on the college charts across the country in the summer of 81.
So only 41 years ago.
That was the alternative. that was the way to hear
alternative music you know it was college radio maybe this is around the era that the uh the great
anthony petrucci from palma pasta maybe yeah yeah maybe but uh so yeah yeah go ahead it's just not
it wasn't like ever meant to be a single and we didn't really think of our music in terms of
singles and airplay in that way at that time. We just wanted to make an album.
But all the elements are there.
It's funny because we talked about Jim Cuddy at the Woodshed
and my memory bank,
the first song I remember hearing everywhere was Try.
But he's like, no, that was the second single.
Right, isn't that weird?
Yeah, and Outskirts was the first single.
And I'm like, oh, who played that?
He goes, nobody.
In those days, I mean, that's what you did, right?
Like you released a song.
Sometimes so many songs would get released on an album
and you don't know.
Once the hit becomes the hit,
you don't realize there've been one or two other songs
that already were out.
That's a great example.
You're like, what do you mean?
I mean, I would have lost a lot of money in a bar bet
by telling you that Try was not the first single.
Right.
But that would be like, that's, yeah.
So sometimes-
Nobody really knows what they're doing.
First song sets the tone and sometimes it doesn't.
Well, nobody knows what they're doing. Like when when we recorded nova heart we went in the studio with
the idea that we were going to make a 12-inch single and we picked two songs right this song
symmetry and this song nova heart and we thought symmetry was the song like our producer john
punter was like yeah this is the song and as time went on and we were crafting the song we're like
you know this nova heart is like really catchy yeah so damn let's i think this is going to be the single i'm still listening to nova heart in 2022 like that thing's
time well i played it early in the show but when i was yeah i mean imagine is that going to appear
on maybe that'll get played on tmlx totally i'll totally play it oh my god everybody you're going
to hear nova by rob bruce at tmlx Instrumentally. Six to nine. Without paying attention.
So don't focus on the band.
Don't look at me.
Just enjoy it in the background
while you eat your palm of pasta
and drink your Great Lakes beer.
Exactly.
All right.
Jam number seven.
Woo.
Love it. In a hundred wars across the earth
Men and guns are thought to prove their worth
Women stay behind and
grow the food
Placing soldiers in a
dangerous mood
Women around the world at work Women around the world at work
Women around the world at work
Women around the world at work
Working, working
I should have worn my Echo Beach t-shirt.
Amazing.
You had that shirt on with somebody recently
and I thought that was a fantastic shirt.
I love that shirt.
Your Martha Muck shirt.
Somebody walking by,
I'm wearing that shirt
outside playing with
the kids and someone's
walking by and it's
like they just stop
and they tell you
about how much they
love Martha.
It's like it's a
whole conversation.
That's cool.
It was cool.
It's cool.
Nice.
Okay, Martha and
the Muffins.
Did you listen to
that episode of
Toronto Mike?
I sure did.
It was great.
Yeah, they were
great.
Yeah, I love them.
The first time I
think Mark opened
up about like how he switched Marthas.
Ah, yeah.
We used to do shows with them as well in the early days.
Of course, our manager, Carl,
used to play bass for Martham the Muffins on Echo Beach,
and that's sort of how the band got connected with them,
because I think before I was in the Spoons,
they had done a show.
In fact, I saw them before I joined the band in Hamilton.
The last day of school,
grade 10, I guess,
I took a bus with my friend
to Hamilton
and we saw Spoons open
for Marth and the Muffins.
And I think at that time,
Carl was already sort of
like thinking about
maybe managing,
but he didn't start managing
until I had joined the band.
And so we had done
some shows with them as well.
And this was on their album,
This is the Ice Age,
which is a fantastic album.
And this is a fantastic song
like uh you know they have sneaky hits like sometimes you're like oh yeah there's the big
ones or whatever you know echo beach whatever echo beach is their nova heart yeah yeah right
exactly bigger even bigger hit but then you're like oh shit like these songs were just everywhere
in like the 80s like they were just all over whether it, I don't know, CFTR or whatever, your Chum 30 or whatever.
And it's, yeah, it's like the Southern Ontario sound.
It's the connection.
Like, I mean, I always feel like with our band too,
like our biggest popularity was for sure in Southern Ontario.
Like we had stuff across the country,
but I feel like we were local band makes good, you know?
This is where I need you to help me because I've, you know this is where i'm i need you to help me because i've you know famously uh the watchman
drummer sammy cone had to educate me that lowest of the low were not that big when western canada
like it's like i think because i i'm born and raised in toronto yeah i'm listening to cfny i
think lowest and lower they're fucking huge right what do you mean it's a toronto thing yeah like
what are you talking about yeah same with us like like we would discover that we were getting airplay across the country but there were
definitely times i mean in in my time with the spoons there were later periods where i thought
oh yeah like it's it's really not translating so much across the whole damn country all the time
that because our main focus was like playing ontario like like by the last year that i was
with the band and we played so many gigs like every high school in southern ontario you know because that's where the crowds
were for us and and we sort of got oversaturated the market in that way but it was fun at the same
time because we were playing to the people who wanted to hear us and also you were just ahead
of the like the video curve like you were almost like just ahead of the much music train yeah i
mean we were there you were no you're there romantic traffic and everything but like like because you're like you want that jam we
play there 81 or whatever like and when does much debut like 85 85 something like that and so it's
like you're just yeah you're in the right place but you're almost almost just like a little ahead
of it almost well that's what ties this country together i think when it comes to these things
yeah and i mean when we did the nova heart video it was like the first or second video that had ever been done
in canada really lit and it because it was a new thing that was before much music that was the end
of 82 that we did that video so we're still a couple years away we were getting like it was
probably getting played on you know samantha taylor video video hits right and those those
kind of shows right good rocking tonight whatever was' Tonight, whatever was happening. Stu Jeffries. Well, first Terry David Mulligan, who's an FOTM,
and then Stu Jeffries, who's an FOTM.
Yeah.
I'm still working on Samantha Taylor.
I think Kevin Shea was trying to get me Samantha Taylor.
I want her on Toronto Mike, so she's listening.
I'm ready for her.
Nice.
I think you tweeted about this jam, I think.
I don't know.
I feel like I'm all, you know, and the Twitter's a weird thing.
It's like somebody tweeted about this,
because I subtweeted an episode
with a member of this band
where we talked about it,
but let's kick out this jam
and let's talk about it.
Great. guitar solo ¶¶
¶¶
¶¶ Now out of sight is out of mind Waiting for a second chance, a second time
Don't walk on paths, don't walk on paths
Don't walk on paths, Don't break this heart Be strong my heart
I love this song Rob
I love it too
Talk to me about Blue Peters
Don't walk past
Another label mate
On Ready Records
Blue Peter
They were just ahead of our time
Because they released one album
I think before we did our first
so again they were a band I would listen to and think man
we're making a record on Ready Records
just like Blue Peter
Video Verite remember that song?
I think on the first album
and I just loved the sound of all their records
Radio Silence
yeah totally
and then they did this song after we had done Nova Heart
and we had worked with this British producer,
John Punter. I believe they did this with
Steve Nye, who used to produce the band Japan.
So
Ready Records was like, man, when we get producers
to come work with our bands and we can make magic.
And it worked out really good because
Blue Peter made a beautiful album. And I've
just always loved this song.
Paul Humphrey passed
away a couple years ago not sure how many years
ago now but during covid was it covid time yeah i'd say 2020 okay so a couple years but we used
to do shows with them as well like ready records would put on christmas parties and put their acts
together so that's like when we did with the extras and blue peter and stuff but yeah this
is just another one of the songs from that era it's that it's that new wave era where it wasn't
quite crossing over to all the mainstream
yet but it was for those of us who were there and loved the cfny sounds it was it was it was
blending into the rest of the world as well so it was kind of an exciting time well chris wardman
is an fotm he's the episode i need to listen to you guys i've got him queued up it sounds like
and again i only have to talk to chris this, but it almost sounds like this band was big, ready to whatever, get bigger,
and then somebody quit the band.
It just sort of ends suddenly.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's a mystery.
And an interesting one member of that band, of course,
is the son of Sam the Record Man.
Jason.
Yeah, Jason's amazing.
Fun fact there.
No mind blow.
That mind blow wouldn't qualify anyways.
We've shared that on Toronto Mike before.
Love it.
Well, we love Blue Peter.
Yeah, no doubt.
And this is, of course,
this is like the big jam from Blue Peter.
It still sounds amazing.
So good, yeah.
We'll let Blue Peter take us into your next jam
because that's the one I boosted.
And that's the one where I have the bonus jams.
And some info that, you know,
my source on this info is impeccable
because it's Ed Conroy from Retro Ontario.
And it's a jam I absolutely,
like the nostalgia that will flow through my veins
when I play this next jam, this next level.
So we'll let Blue Peter take us home to that one.
It's next level, so we'll let Blue Peter take us home to that one.
Those drums.
Amazing. This is TV Ontario, Channel 19 in Toronto, Channel 32 in Windsor. Coloured lights are flying
Like an agent through the air
Shadows moving faster than they are
Passing faces, places never have seen before
They'll take you to the sky.
Right upon a silver screen where pictures seem to flow.
Like magic.
Magic.
Shadows.
Shadows it's a palindrome isn't it yes it's a palindrome like Abbott credited or Otto that's one palindrome
we won't be seeing
around here anymore
and Hannah
who's my guest
next week
Hannah Sung
Hannah is actually
a palindrome as well
okay
first before I steal
the show from you here
talk to me about
this jam
the Magic Shadows
theme song
it sort of flows away
from the Blue Peter
New Wave era
but I just sort of wanted to from the Blue Peter New Wave era,
but I just sort of wanted to bring it back around to music that I love.
You're all choked up
because you're getting the nostalgia, man.
Excuse me.
This is like a 70s jam,
but TVO was a staple for me
because I was watching,
I'm stealing it back now,
but so many,
Fables of the Green Forest,
Simon in the Land of Chalk,
Johnny Hamster. Hammy Hamster.
Hammy Hamster, but I don't feel like I saw that on TVO.
I feel like that was on Global.
Oh, maybe it was.
I remember that on Global.
It feels like it should be on TVO.
But like, I just want to shout out Dr. Snuggles, okay?
But Jeremy the Bear.
Do you remember this guy?
Oh, my name is Jeremy.
And again, I know you're a few years older than me,
but okay, TVO was a big deal.
And I've been traumatized because i would be watching polka dot door and then uh the uh what's that instrument
called that the star wars theme is um what's that instrument which one there's a instrument made a
russian guy made it theremin yes yeah and then you'd hear the doctor who oh yes of course yeah
and it would scare the shit out of me like i, I would be totally, I'm going to bring down Elwie.
I know that's not where they just hear.
But anyway, this is a song where, you know, magic shadows.
Even if I was too young to appreciate what Elwie was going to deliver.
Yeah.
I was mesmerized by the animation and the song.
Yep.
Tell me about how that song affected you.
It was mesmerizing to me as well, but also because it was my introduction to my love of old movies.
And, like, he would have Monster Week. And, like, that was my introduction to my love of old movies and like he would have
monster week and like that was my first time watching king kong like you know he'd break
everything up into five episodes and like 30 minutes per whatever right and he would do his
little introductions and my i fell in love with with lon chaney and the old silent monster films
and king kong um and yeah that sound just evokes that feeling of like tuning into our little TV
in our living room
and watching that
because we had a TV
where you had to like
maybe you had to like
tune it to the UHF
or VHF
or whatever
you gotta get to 19
it was hard to get a reception
on that thing
and when you got it
you didn't move
you had to like
get the antenna just right
dude I remember
I feel like we're that
last generation
that can like feel the pain
of that
like it's like
you know
none of my kids
can understand that
but like we lived with that.
That's right.
But that's like a,
like having a home phone ring
and not knowing
who was going to be
on the other line
until you answered it.
Like that's something
we all grew up with
but like it's completely
foreign now.
Like what do you mean
you don't know
who's calling you?
That's right.
And you're all sharing a phone
and if your girlfriend's
calling you or whatever,
your boyfriend or whatever,
you're like,
you know, you're phoning your girlfriend you're hoping the dad doesn't answer. Or there's two lines in the house and if your girlfriend's calling you or whatever your boyfriend whatever you're like uh you know you know you're phoning your girlfriend you're hoping the dad doesn't answer or there's
two lines in the house and like your mom is upstairs mom i got the call yeah okay mom hang
up tends to hang up that's right tell us she didn't hang up that's right i used to do that
sometimes too my sister i would snoop on the calls i was a bad brother so do you want me to
okay so when you hear that song yeah which by the way it's harry forbes yes okay so harry forbes uh composed that
song and record it so a lot of people hear that song including me and you hear a very beatles
influence there right so here let's get a taste here so you just heard magic shadows theme song
there by uh harry forbes now i'm gonna play a song this is why we're not live on Facebook.
Although now I hear Tears for Fears.
Sowing the seeds of love.
Sowing the seeds of love, of course.
I am here as you are here as you are me
and we are all together
See how they run like pigs from a gun
See how they fly
I'm crying
Woo, okay.
So yeah, that's what I would always,
as I became old enough to realize
what's going on in the world,
I'm like, oh yeah, that Harry Forbes
is busting the styles from the Beatles.
Well, Ed Conroy talked to Harry Forbes.
And here he acknowledges the Beatles influence.
How can he not?
But here's the jam.
He's kind of ripping off even more than that one.
I am the walrus by the Beatles.
Here's the jam.
Harry Forbes is really busting.
Oh,
Beach Boys.
Man.
I feel flows.
Right?
Yeah.
I never thought of it.
That's why I love the Beach Boys.
Yep.
Yeah,
I'm telling you.
I'm here to blow your mind.
It's the Magic Shadows Connection.
Yes.
Doesn't this sound like the Harry Forbes song?
Yeah.
More so than even the Beatles.
Yep.
Amazing. So, thank you the Beatles. Yep. Amazing.
So thank you,
Ed Conroy.
Thank you, Ed.
For talking to Harry Forbes.
That's what I'm trying to do.
I'm trying to have
these people on
so I can get the story
from the horse's mouth.
Did Harry mention
this song
or mention the Beach Boys
as an inspiration?
Yeah, he mentioned
Feel Flows
specifically to Ed
as the influence.
And this is from 1971,
Surf's Up.
Yes, what a great album that is.
So all the timelines
are in place here.
Yep.
By the way,
it was episode three.
What was it?
Okay, Ed and I,
we kick out a lot of these
Canadian theme songs,
we call them.
I would recommend
episode 167,
378, or a special episode we did, which recommend episode 167 378
or a special episode
we did
which was
it was 378
we called it
Themology 101
and I think we talked
about this song
and that
but Ed Conroy
is a
that's why he's the
first member
inducted into the
FOTM
Hall of Fame.
Okay so I'll bring down
Beach Boys here
and then we're going to
kick out your last jam. How was this man? Amazing. Good. Hall of Fame. Okay, so I'll bring down Beach Boys here and then we're going to kick out your last jam.
How was this, man? Amazing.
Good. Jams never end.
Should I have recorded this? No.
We'll redo it later.
We'll get it right.
This is the test run.
As I said that joke, I ran over to my
waveform to make sure I could see something.
I'm like, okay, I know that's a joke.
Let's just make sure. We would do it again and it would be better.
Yeah, you'd have to come over after Bare Naked Ladies.
Okay, so we'll bring down
and then we're going to kick out your final jam.
Those Beach Boys records are so good.
Oh, right.
That's me.
Oh!
Oh!
Meteor showers above me Yoko is tweeting about peace
21st century influx
The nights, the nights seem to swallow us up
Who does your art direction?
The way the light hits you is cosmic Guts and glitters like smokey blue diamonds
And you don't really care where your pants fall
This is an alarm call 911 to the wrecking ball
Nothing's been right since they broke the fourth wall
Trying to make it to landfall
Preaching the rapture with a Bible and gun
You're out to kill the sacred feminine
You're soulless and gutless as your blood rhetoric
Eye on the prize a hand on your
dick oh you wish oh you wish this isn't a long call 9-1-1 to the wrecking ball dragging myself
i'll walk or i'll crawl trying to make you to land far Tell me everything about this song.
I co-wrote this song with Carol Pope in 2011.
And she came to me with the idea.
She's like, I got this song.
I'm going to make it a duet with Rufus Wainwright.
And we got to just wait until Rufus is in town and available.
And I was doing Mamma Mia at the time.
And so we were up in the lobby at the Winter Garden Theater on Broadway,
working on the song.
Not on Yonge Street.
Nope.
The Winter Garden.
The Elgin Winter Garden.
That's right.
I played there too.
So she brought the idea But so we worked on this
So she brought the idea
Then we worked on it
And then
We sort of had it
To a certain position
And then she's like
Now I gotta just wait for Rufus
And then like one day
She's like okay
Next week Rufus is available
So I'm booking this recording studio
And so
I booked it down to the studio
And we
And she's like
Oh I wrote an extra verse
And so I had to
Like write a couple chords
For this last section
And then I played the piano and recorded the piano part.
And then she did her vocal.
It sounds awesome, buddy.
It's an amazing song.
Amazing.
I'm very proud of the song because she released it in 2011.
And people release music now, and there's no radios really playing stuff a lot.
And it's a whole different world.
And for somebody like Carol, she's like a legacy artist
in so many ways
that people respect her
for what she's done
but I feel like,
I think this song that we did
is just so cool
that I like to play it
any chance I get.
Now,
CBC Music is looking
for more CanCon
because they just took
Arcade Fire off their playlist.
They did?
Because there's a controversy
with their lead singer
Wynn out there.
So there is room for more.
But this song sounds amazing
and early in the song, there's a shout out to Yoko Ono.on. Right, right, right. So there is room for more. But this song sounds amazing and early in the song
there's a shout out
to Yoko Ono.
Yeah.
And of course
that's the jam
Barenaked Ladies
played at Speaker's Corner.
Right.
And you're going to see them tonight.
And I'm going to see them.
It's all coming full circle.
It's all full circle.
That's fine.
My Jerry Seinfeld, yeah.
Okay.
Dude, I can't believe
how awesome that was
to kick out the jams.
Now listen,
you've come a long way all the way from New York City.
I feel like doing it.
Ooh, wah, ooh, wah, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
The boy from New York City.
Talk about the boy from New York City.
His name is Rob.
He's kind of a snob.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
But anything you were like, I got to make sure I tell him this.
I got to make sure I share this story.
Is there anything that you're going to be driving back to Burlington you're going to be like, damn it, I got to make sure I tell him this. I got to make sure I share the story. Is there anything that you're going to be driving back to Burlington?
You're going to be like, damn it.
I forgot.
No, it's been an honor.
And we'll just do it again sometime.
And I'll see you Thursday night.
I'll see you Thursday night.
What time?
Six.
Six to nine p.m.
I got to come a little early and set up.
Don't be late because you're there between six and nine.
So I'm going to be there.
I'm there at five.
I'll be there early too.
F-O-T-M-L Grego will be helping to set up the audio stuff at 5 p.m.
At five.
Great.
The pasta.
So FOTM, listen, it's important.
The pasta from Palma Pasta does not arrive till six.
Okay.
So, you know, and that's when the bar opens and you get your free beer and then you can
get five buck beers from Great Lakes.
But it's going to be an amazing night.
And anybody can show up.
Any FOTM.
I can tell my friends.
But you, yes, yes. If they're friends of you night. And anybody can show up. I can tell my friends. Yes, if they're friends of you, they can show up.
Absolutely.
Any listener,
they'll have to fake that they're listeners.
Any listener or former
guest of Toronto Mic is invited to this
exclusive TMLXX celebrating
10 years of Toronto Mic. It's our 10th
Toronto Mic listener experience.
It's going to be amazing to have you there, Rob.
I'm looking forward to it.
And that...
That brings us to the end
of our 1,104th show.
You can follow me on Twitter.
I'm at Toronto Mike.
And Rob, you're at RobPruceX?
Yeah, Twitter. There's an X at the end. I don't know why, yeah. Somebody took it probably. Yeah. I'm at Toronto Mike and Rob you're at Rob Pruse X yeah Twitter
there's an X at the end
I don't know why
yeah
somebody took it probably
yeah
Pruse is P-R-E-U-S-S
X
and then an X
that's right
so Rob Pruse
yeah he's a great follow
and you write like
poetry or
I don't know how you do
like you like to do
line breaks
I do line breaks
I don't know why
it's just
you know who kind of
does that a little bit
Ron Sexsmith really does a little bit? Ron Sexsmith.
Really? Oh yeah.
He does that style too. He's a poet and he knows it.
He's a poet and he knows it.
Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at
Great Lakes Beer. They're hosting TMLXX.
That's 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard.
Palma Pasta is at
Palma Pasta. Lots of peas.
And they're feeding everybody at TMLX.
Sticker U will be there.
Sticker U, they're at Sticker U.
Electronic Products Recycling Association, I'm going to talk to them tomorrow.
They're at EPRA underscore Canada.
Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH.
They're going to be there.
And Canna Cabana are at Canna Cabana underscore.
They'll be there.
See you all at tml xx Yeah, I know it's true How about you?
They're picking up trash and they're putting down rogues
And they're brokering stocks, the class struggle explodes
And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can
Maybe I'm not
and maybe I am
But who gives a damn
Because everything
is coming up
rosy and gray
Yeah, the wind is cold
but the smell of snow
warms me today
And your smile is fine
and it's just like mine
and it won just like mine
And it won't go away
Cause everything is rosy and green
Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain
And I've kissed you in places I better not name
And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour
But I like it much better going down on you
Yeah, you know that's true
Because everything is coming up
Rosy and green
Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow warms us today.
And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away.
Because everything is Rosie now.
Everything is Rosie, yeah.
Everything is Rosiey and everything is rosy and gray.