Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Sarah Burke: Toronto Mike'd #402

Episode Date: November 29, 2018

Mike chats with radio broadcaster Sarah Burke about her many jobs at SiriusXM and Indie88.

Welcome to episode 402 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Propertyinthe6.com, Paytm Canada, Census Design and Build, and our newest sponsors, Palma Pasta and Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. Palma Pasta, and Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me is Indie88 host Sarah Burke. What's up? Welcome Sarah. Thanks for having me.

It's funny to me that you lead with my part-time gig. Oh, you know what? I am going to discover everything about you shortly. Oh, I know this song. This is your theme song. Okay. But you have an H in Sarah. Yes, I do. This Sarah does not have an H in Sarah. Yes, I do.

This Sarah does not have an H. So funny. This has gone on in my office a million times. When you start your shift at Indie, you play this song, is that correct? Oh, yeah, just to get my head in the game, of course. No. At SiriusXM, which is where I work full time, in the office we have all those SiriusXM channels kind of rotating. So one day we might be listening to 80s on 8,

and one day we might be listening to 70s on 7. But there are times where this song comes on and everyone's like, stop what you're doing! Sirius song is on! This would be a fixture on 80s on 8. What is it called? 80s on 8. You know, I apologize.

I don't have a subscription to SiriusXM. That's okay. So I'm ignorant in the world of satellite radio. Don't worry. I can tell you all about it. So meanwhile,

here I am, yeah, selling you on your part-time gig. It's okay. But we're going to dive into that. But there's another Sarah song rolled on here. Oh, which one's this one? I was gonna say I think this is still 80s like really early 80s

I think it is 80s and this is also in the mix. With or without an H? Good question. Without an H. No H on this one either. Yeah. All the songs about me are not actually about me.

The H, is that like, is that biblical? I'm not sure. I really don't know. Here it comes. You ready? I gotta get my snap on here. Would we call this yacht rock? I would say, yes.

I'm feeling it. Yeah, if my name was Sarah, which would be weird, but if my name was Sarah, I think this might be my ringtone, maybe. I don't know. Is that not cool? Remind me to tell you a story about ringtones that happened today. Well, tell me now.

Okay. I can't wait for a story like thattones that happened today. Well, tell me now. Okay. I can't wait for a story like that. Okay. Well, it's not that exciting. It's just kind of funny. So we have one guy in our office who loves Bruce Springsteen. And his ringtone is the boss. And when he leaves his phone on his desk, but he's in a meeting, it rings so loud.

And when he leaves his phone on his desk, but he's in a meeting, it rings so loud. So sometimes we're like, oh, it's somebody shut off this guy's phone. And now all of us in the office on this floor are like, I can't even listen to Bruce Springsteen anymore because we've heard it go off so many times. And again, you have so many jobs, I can't keep track of them all. But is this the Indy 88 gig that we're talking about here? This is Sirius XM. Funny enough, when I'm at Indy, almost no one's there, right? It's just me, man, in the house. And that's literally a house, right?

Literally a house, yeah. I rode by it one day just to look at it from the outside. But it's a house in Liberty Village. Yeah, and it used to be like a photography studio, I'm pretty sure. One floor is painted very white. And then, yeah, you go up towards the studio and you just kind of feel like you're in the upper

level of a house. And does the shower work in the bathroom? How do you know there's a shower in the bathroom? What do you mean? What do you mean you rode by? That's right. You know an awful lot about the... I found a way with my binoculars where I can see into that. Oh man, you're creeping me out.

It would be creepy if it were true, but it's not true. I'm trying to remember how I knew about the bathroom and I feel like... Maybe someone told you. Let's go with that. Definitely someone told me. Did I read it or did someone tell me? There's a bathroom up there with a shower and I am known to, you know, on a Saturday night after a shift, you know, if I'm going out somewhere, I got to get ready somewhere.

Okay, I think at the beginning of the launch of Indie 88, I was reading that it didn't work or it was leaky or something. There was some fun fact about how the bathtub leaked or something like that. I could not confirm or deny that because I've never tried to shower there. And although we will dive deep into your many jobs, but how long have you been at

Indie88? I started working May 2-4 weekend, I believe. It might have been like a week before that, but it was around May 2-4. May 2-4. Of 2018, yeah. I want to thank Blue Skies Agency. They're at blueskyagency.ca. So why am I thanking Blue Sky Agency? They're in Liberty Village. Oh, where all the traffic is yeah right at lake liberty and duffer in there that building of all the things yeah they're in there and they i don't know if you're like if you need office furniture you go to them and they what about a new bathtub i hear we might need one of those you know what i bet you they could take care of that one too like that the that's right you need you need to get that bathtub fixed uh

bookie needs a shower okay that's all i'm gonna say there you gotta get it fixed oh what is there something i don't know about bookie that you do no i'm a big fan big big big fan but everybody needs a shower so uh blue sky agency i'm thanking them because they purchased a fourth microphone for the studio here so the one i'm pointing to that only you can see arrived today. Thanks, guys. In fact, do you want to talk into it and be the first person ever to talk into it? Okay. Okay, hold on.

I got to unmute it, though. Okay. And how does it sound? Not at all because I didn't unmute it. Now do it. How does it sound? Amazing. So that's a first.

Okay, you are now the first person to speak into the uh i guess i'm gonna call it the blue sky mic if you want i can answer every question on a different microphone that's true there's now four mics so now i realize though like in you do you you uh what do you call that you run your own board you off your own board yeah yeah produce my own show so now that I have four things, it feels like when all four people, when we're all talking that I'm, I'm going to be very busy here.

Oh yeah. You got to get some practice before they show up. And I, I added the fourth one to the fourth slot, which means now this is one, two, three, four.

So, so I have to rearrange. I have to read because it's my brain. Right. So it's like I was now, cause they're all different colors right like i got so i go by color but of course i that takes time to see what color and then match it up so you're yellow and i am green and thank you uh blue sky for the microphone that's amazing so sarah can i tell everybody about the phone call we shared on the weekend sure yeah yeah absolutely so when i wanted to when i wanted to roast you

right so i get a like dms from sarah burke uh he slid into my dms please don't say that come on well that's true so she she said uh like hey uh can i phone you or whatever and i'm thinking in my head i'm thinking oh we got that episode coming up this week she just just wants to figure out the last minute details. Yeah. I thought maybe there was a specific thing you didn't want me to ask you or something like that's what I thought in my head because I've been doing this a long time. And I thought you're going to say something like, oh, don't ask me about X because there's some contract in flux with it. And I don't know. I thought something I was curious, Like I was naturally curious. So I gave you my number and then you called me.

When you first called me, I was on the Humber Bay Bridge on a bike ride and you couldn't hear me very well because of the wind blowing into the microphone. So then you said in precisely one hour

you were going to call me back and you did. And then I answered this phone call in my kitchen and you, Sarah, are talking. Well, you tell me what you were telling me. You take it from here. So right now I sound okay, but for the last two weeks I've been

struggling with some cold, which is the worst thing ever for anyone in broadcasting because you sound horrible on the mic. So I was going to use that as an excuse to try and poke some fun at Mike here. Because one of the episodes I had listened to before coming on the podcast was with another former Indy 88 employee, Danny Stover. And there was like, you know, 15 minutes of you just asking why no one from Indy 88. Oh, I think I did go off on a... It was like a tangent, like a long one. But I tend to do that. I guess I forget in my mind that this is like a public podcast

and someone else there could listen. He just wants the inside scoop. I know. If I remember correctly, it's because I was fresh off this frustrating experience with who? Oh, I love how he's like, oh, I can't remember his name right now, but really, I've asked him on a date.

No, I'm kidding. I almost called him Carlin. Carlin wasn't frustrating because Carlin was very clear that I don't want to come on, so that was easy. I'm good with that. That's fine. Good for Carlin. I wish him nothing but the best. He's dating my very first best friend's cousin.

First cousin. So the first best friend I ever had in junior kindergarten, his cousin is dating Carlin. Fun. Well, maybe you'll see them at an extravagant evening celebrating a union in the near future. Are they engaged? No.

Are they living together? No. I'm just curious because my buddy Joe is only five blocks away. And even if they were, I wouldn't tell you. There's a line

about personal life here. There's another fun fact about Danny, not Danny Stover, but the Danny who's dating Carlin, is that she, until very recently,

worked at Great Lakes Brewery. Right. She was like, working there. And I feel like I've also talked to her at GLB before because my boyfriend loves GLB beer. And you live in the hood.

Live in the hood. It's an Etobicoke fixture. I want to give you a gift before I even proceed with the story. It's from, you know, almost. It's almost, it would be except she quit that job. And now she's like working for a marketing something or other on the east end of the city or something like that. But this is a six-pack that you're taking home with you.

Well, thank you. Don't let your boyfriend drink it all. I'm not even going to tell him about it. It's all me. So Great Lakes wants you to enjoy their fresh craft. Oh, thank you. Thank you, GLB. Appreciate that.

Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery located here in Etobicoke. Did you know, Sarah, that 99.9% of all Great Lakes beer remains here in Ontario? No, I did not know that. GLB, brewed for you. And we got to shout out their design team because every single can, every time I look at a design, they all make me laugh. They're all fabulous. Over my dad body pilsner that's amazing no shout him out because uh patrick corrigan for example who used to still i think he still does cartoons in the toronto star he's one of the

people that so i think he did the over my dad's body i think but yeah there's a lot of sunny side ipa sunny side get a gus. Is that where that's named from? Yeah, of course. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, because they're, as you know, they're Royal York and Queensway area. And you got this older fellow

doing a little BBQ on the beach. And I can't remember his name, but he's got a name and it's eluding me right now. Is it on here? I can't remember, but... It doesn't say on here, if that helps you.

Something bottoms. I can't remember now but uh enjoy that and uh now that brings us back it's not carlin it's brent so to pick up the story uh radio brent that's his handle on twitter uh was gonna come in and kick out the jams and he gave me his list and i spent lots of time to get good mp3 files of all these songs that brent was gonna kick out and it was hold on hold on hold on good mp3 files of all these songs that brent was going to kick out and it was hold on hold on hold on good mp3 files you do realize that's an oxymoron right not in my 128 bit mp3 universe here okay fair enough fair enough

and that's true and uh you're funny sarah burke oh thank you. But Brent, he like last second had a shift change or something and I'm like, I totally get that. You know, you did the same thing to me, I think.

Didn't you? Did we always have this booked? No, you scheduled it. Yeah, but I tried to do that to you. Oh yeah, because that's where we're going. So fresh off the

Brent ghosting me, I can't even find Brent to get him in here to kick out his jam that it was frustrating me. Danny Stover was here and I went off on you guys. I love your station find Brent to get him in here to kick out his jam that it was frustrating me. Danny Stover was here and I went off on you guys. I love your station

and I would like to talk to more of you. Oh, thank you on behalf of the team. But Lana Gay won't come on. Bookie won't come on. No one on that morning. I mean, Josie came on when she was at Edge, but not since she came to Indie. I used to work there too, actually.

What? No, it's in my notes. Oh, you got notes? You got notes? I got notes. The story since she came to Indie. I used to work there too, actually. What notes? In my notes? Oh, you got notes? You got notes? I got notes. The story we were going to tell here was... So tell the story. So as you can hear, our friend here, Mike, has gone on again for... How many minutes has it been?

Yeah, it's been another five, I think. Okay. Well, we haven't hit 15 yet. This is good, right? But I thought, you know, if we were to cancel this i wonder how he would react since the reaction about brent was you know pretty entertaining so you basically you identified i had a uh like a nerve and you were gonna strike it that's yes that's what we get to so i tried to use my losing my voice as an excuse and and mike here is like how do you know that

your voice isn't going to be better by Wednesday? Like applying logic. Was it Saturday that we had the call? Saturday or Sunday. But my point is, so I'm listening to you and I'm trying to be like,

oh yeah, you know, it happens. And I'm trying to get him to react and I'm not getting anything. Are you recording the call? I did record the call. And if it had worked out, I would have told you before I aired it, just to be clear.

If I went off. So did you have any, like some part of you must have thought I would go off on you for trying to get out of your opinion? Not like in a mad way, but I thought you were going to be like, oh, damn. Like, you know, more just like annoyed.

I was suppressing my rage, I think. I think I did have an internal dialogue thinking, oh, great. Another one of those Indie 88 millennials ghosting on me. I think I was. You know us Indie 88 millennials ghosting on me. I think I was... You know us, Indie 88 hosts, always thinking about the next bit. But I bought it. So bottom line is I bought it hook, line, and sinker.

And I thought you were legitimately canceling your appearance due to your raspy voice. And I was applying that logic. Like, well, Sarah, how do you know your voice won't be better by Wednesday? I was going to basically tell you... Let's reschedule. Tell me by wednesday like i was going to basically tell you let's reschedule on tell me tuesday like i was going to basically that's how it was where i was going i was going to be like well just send me a note on tuesday if you're still unwell and we'll we'll and then i had gone ahead and said you know and i don't even think i'm going to be able to to reschedule because i'm heading heading out west for world oh yeah yeah yeah i forgot like i was drawing the line like I'm done.

Pretty sharp. And I was then I did have a thought of, oh, she's trying to get out of this. I wonder if there's an Indie 88 like rule that's been like, did she catch wind of the rule like the, we don't appear on Toronto Mike, the podcast. No, I just listened to that one podcast and that'd be really funny.

Oh, yeah. And by the way, were you friends with Dandy Stover? You did overlap, right? Yeah. We have overlapped in both chorus entertainment and as well in Indie 88. I came after her, but we've spoken. So she left before the Me Too Four. Yeah.

And her vacancy is kind of where I hopped in. Right. And of course, she's at BlogTO doing their podcast over there. Yeah, and because I have this full-time gig already at SiriusXM, I was kind of just looking for some fun on the side. Sounds like a horrible relationship, right? Well, your boyfriend's getting the beer regardless he's gonna be he's gonna be doing fine um so i'm glad to find out i'm not blackballed by indy 88

because that would make no sense no it's in your head and i was just playing on your head because uh of the bookie thing's been going on forever but i don't bother bookie anymore because again he said no and i moved on uh sort of but in the lana gay thing i thought that she'd be perfect because i'm buddies with like one of her close friends and i'm like we'll get lana gay in here she has this 102 history somewhere back there like with the humble and fred show and i'm not even privy to that i haven't even ever discussed that with her there's a whole thing there that i thought would be fun and all that but anyway anyway, I'm glad you're here. And you're at peace.

You're at peace. Yeah, like now I know there's no rule and I'm just so pleased to have you on. And he promised me, he promised me that if I ever call him again, he will rage for me so that I can put it on the air. Oh, I did, yes. And that is true.

If you, next time you call me for any reason, I'm just going to go off on you. Like I'll be cursing and swearing and you'll have to like beep out all my bad words. Resident angry guy in Toronto. You think he's like a nice guy, but he's not. Listen to this. Secretly recorded call.

By the way, you're a difficult woman to Google. Oh, yeah? Because you share a name with... A skier? A kind of sad actually. Snowboarder. She's kind of sad. I think she's a skier

skiers snowboard i feel like she's a freestyle well again this is sarah burke the freestyle skier who passed away yeah i was on air the day that she passed away that was super weird i can imagine because i mean okay burke's a popular name and sarah i'm sure there's a lot of sarah burke's but uh like you're kind of similar ages and you're both like Canadian blondes you know what I mean it was just weird yeah it was just weird that's the only way to put it but um my my name actually used to be like I'm pretty sure it was like Birkenstein or something and it changed during the war yes just like we changed the name of uh Kitchener I think Kitchener was called Berlin or something like that. Yeah, that makes sense.

Germans were so unpopular, they changed it. But they kept the Oktoberfest traditions alive. That's the good stuff that Germany gave us. You gotta keep that. The Bavarians. But again, yeah, so Sarah Burke, the skier, she died in 2012. I remember it very well.

She was doing some kind of stunts for an energy drink or something. And she crashed. Super sad story. Super sad. And, she was like an Olympic hopeful too. Cause they added freestyle skiing.

I do not compare in, in skill. I did not. Oh, maybe I was going to say, I do not compare. I was going to say, uh,

I don't think that's true, but, uh, I've never seen you on skis. So, Oh, you don't want to. I'm on the bunny hill.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. I'm, the bunny hill. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I'm terrified. How often do you ski? Maybe like if at all once a year, I would say. But there was a point during elementary school where they had us go a couple times. A couple times like a semester.

It was like an elective you could choose. I haven't skied since I was a teenager. Oh. So, and I remember, I don't, no one can see it, but what do you call that when you ski with your skis like this? Oh, make the pizza. Right. That's right.

That's what the instructors tell you. I was a good pizza maker, I think, on the bunny hill. But I never took to it and I never cared for it. And I haven't been there like as an adult. I don't know. I did go at Blue Mountain a couple years ago with a girlfriend of mine. Her family has a place up there. Man, I was

embarrassed at my skills. I was like, oh my god, Black Diamond Hill. I'm just going to slide down on my ass. See you then. And that skier, Sarah Burke, has an H in Sarah. There's something there. Oh my goodness. Do you own in your home in this hood?

I won't be more specific than that, but you could walk here if you had enough time. I think so. You know, on a nice day. If I had enough time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or a bike ride or whatever. Bike for sure.

You know who lives near you is Biff Naked. Yeah, yeah. I've actually, I've been at the grocery store checking out and she's beside me and I'm like, hey, what's up? And you can't miss Biff Naked. Like that's an easy to identify person she's very nice and also um hazel may where does hazel may live okay maybe don't say where she lives but this is not that specific because they're big they're a bunch of big high rises with like thousands of people

living there it would be sort of like sort of like saying that you live in Liberty Village. You don't live in Liberty Village. That's not very specific. Don't worry. I don't know what you call it. Doxing? I won't give up any pertinent details there. Don't worry. But I do know when Hazel was on she told me that she lived... She named the same intersection you told me earlier is how

she described where her and Kevin Barker lived. Oh. Which is a booming intersection. We won't say any more than that. In case you're... I'll watch over her at the grocery store. The only stalker who's listening is probably me. Yeah. So don't worry.

Don't worry. Put your button binoculars away. Do you own in this home you live in? No. How do you know? I haven't asked the question yet. What did you say? You just said, do you own the home you live in?

Oh, I'm sorry. You know what? I hadn't finished my sentence. I was going to say, do you own in the home you live in smart speakers like Alexa or Google? Yes, we have the Googles. Okay. How many do you have? I think there's two at the moment.

Are they minis or full? Minis. Minis. Okay. Because I just got my first ever smart speaker, a Google Mini, because they lowered the price to $35 or something like that. We just got our second one because I convinced my boyfriend to go have a dental appointment and they were giving away free Google Homes.

I totally dig it. Now when I drop the kids off at daycare and I come home and I say, do I have my phone with me? No, I can say it. I say, hey Google, good morning. And then it's like it calls me by my name and it's telling me like what time it is and maybe what the temperature is and then it knows I like to hear the CBC hourly news update and then I like to hear both Sportsnet and the TSN sports updates and it does the whole thing and it's

amazing yeah I I do a lot of the, hey, Google, we have smart lights and hey, Google, turn off all the lights. Hey, Google, put on the lamp. Do you have the thermostat connected? No, but... Oh, because you don't own, so you probably don't want to pay for the infrastructure. Yeah, we're not investing in that.

I have owned a home in the last couple of years, but it was not in Toronto. Listen, if you owned a home in Toronto, I would be thoroughly impressed because it means you owned a home in toronto i would i would be thoroughly impressed because it means you are a multi-millionaire thank you i i'm i don't know how it's a i think if i had to buy this home today i'd i'd be uh i wouldn't be able to afford it so i don't know how people do it i don't know how my kids are going to do it that's almost i know i know it's a it's a sad topic of conversation that keeps coming up i know i gotta do something uh

but i just wondered if you were in the... Because I just joined the smart speaker world. And I love it because we've connected the Spotify account. So it's like, okay, Google, play Neil Young. I think what you meant is, hey, Google, play Indie88 Toronto. Of course. Of course. I'm a big fan of Indie88.

We'll get to that very, very shortly. Brent Cardy. Do you know the name Brent Cardy? Yes. I thought you very shortly brent cardi do you know the name brent cardi yes i thought you were gonna say do you know brent from indy 88 i'm like are we back on this can we phone brent from indy 88 live on the air here could you phone him and speakerphone and put it up the microphone i'm just kidding i thought about it i thought about it i just want to have a one minute conversation with the brent from indie 88 we'll work on it we'll work on it brent cardi though is not from indie 88 uh but he wrote and said uh ask her that's you sarah about getting a ticket going too slow in the hammer lane and he also says this story is

following me everywhere throughout my whole career this is is brutal. This is the advice. You do not date someone who has a close relationship with your morning show guy. Because then the world knows about your adventures. So this is back when I was working for The Edge. I would do some shifts in Toronto on the weekend. But I was full time in London, Ontario doing like an afternoon show. Right. So I would be driving back on the Monday morning to, you know, make it in time for my afternoon show. And the funny story about the going too slow in the hammer lane is that I was actually speeding. Like I was, I'm pretty sure I was going above,

above 150. Dangerous. Cause they'll take your license away. Exactly. But, but I, for whatever reason I had left late or whatever. Anyway,

I looked in my rear view mirror and I was like, that may be a cop. So I slowed down and then he pulled me over. For going too slow. And so, you know, the, the Hammer Lane, what do we know? The passing lane, you should only be in it if you're passing. There were trucks, like lots of trucks, because, you know, we're talking about the stretch of the 401

between Toronto and London. Tons of trucks. And they were all in the right lane, so I was just speeding by in the left lane, and there was no one else on the road. So instead of weaving in and out of these trucks, I was just speeding by in the left lane, and there was no one else on the road. So instead of weaving in and out of these trucks, I was just staying put. But I got pulled over for going too slow.

So you're from London? I just was doing radio in London. I also went to school in London, so I have a lot of time spent in London, Ontario, over the last 10 years. Like you went to Western? What kind of school did you go to? I went to Western and Fanshawe.

Okay. Party school, this Western, right? Oh, this Western, yes. I couldn't afford to leave the city for university, but I did get accepted. I applied to three places and one was Western. Oh, cool. I just didn't want to spend money to go there. But okay, so where are you from if you're not from London? I am born in North York and raised in Richmond Hill. Okay. Yeah, so GTA, gal. Richmond Hill will come up in a moment because of a new location a sponsor has opened in Richmond Hill. Oh, I can hardly wait.

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representative with psr brokerageage and proud sponsor of Toronto Mites. You can call or text me at 416-873-0292 if you are thinking of selling in the spring market. Now is the time for me to prep your house so it can sell for the most money. Sarah, as a former Great question. the Leafs' most valuable player? Great question. The London Knights were very exciting to watch and be a part of even for just a short time. The one thing I'll say about Mitch, he's kind of, he likes provoking,

which you maybe have noticed on the ice. He likes provoking whoever his opponent is at that time, right? He's just got this thing where he's like poking the bear, kind of. And I think that keeps hockey interesting. A lot of people would maybe make a comment about how he's not always playing nice, but I thought that it keeps the game alive. Sweet little Mitch Marner in his 160 pounds soaking wet. But even back in the day, like when I used to have some of the Londonites

on my show in London, they all made fun of his facial hair. And I'm happy to see that the Toronto Maple Leafs are keeping that alive. Well, he still looks like he's 16 years old, like even today. So I can't imagine what it was like back then. Mitch Marner, are you a hockey fan?

Yeah, yeah. And I'm actually going to be going out to World Juniors to be the in-game host in Victoria. Really? That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. I'm super pumped about that. I want to come with you. I'm sorry. You know I work in radio and I can't pay for that. Well, I didn't say I was going to pay my own way. I just want to be your co-host for this in-game stuff at the World Juniors. That's totally like amazing that. So how did'd you get that gig because you did the london uh night stuff yeah like it was you know basically being in touch with the right people and and like like anything there was a job posting and i threw my name in the hat and yeah and i got it and they're they're of course because you're working for them they're

gonna pay for your way to victoria right some things like i'm i'm i'm being paid per game but it will cover my costs. Good. Good for you. That sounds really cool. And Mitch Marner, every game now, his stock rises in my mind. This kid is amazing. And I always had him as the third

best forward. And I still think he's the third best forward. But now you could have a good argument. You could have a good discussion about in two years, will we say Mitch Marner is actually the first best? It's just such a rise

from... There's a lot of really talented guys on the team right now, so I wonder who may equal up or surpass him even, if that's even possible. Austin Matthews is still on this hockey team. Oh, we should probably talk about Austin Matthews who's back in the lineup tonight.

That's correct. And I saw some stats about like how well we play without him. Like the Leafs are actually a really good team. I've had a complex about this because I went to the game where he injured himself and now my friend that I was with is like, you're bad luck.

Yeah, I think it is. You're a very powerful woman, and I do think it's all your fault. But yeah, Matthews, who was on a tear. Is that a bad word? No, it was a separated shoulder. You can say tear. But he was on a tear before his injury,

like unbelievable numbers, like MVP caliber stuff before he was hurt. So if he can pick up where he left off. And again, as you know, because you're a hockey fan, there's this looming deadline with Mr. Nylander. Like this deadline is on Saturday. I know. What do you think is going to happen?

I think they're going to sign him. Like to a bridge thing though. Like I don't think they are. See, this is a wonderful discussion because none of us know, but it's a great debate. Tell me what you think will happen to Nylander. I think that his people are going to walk away from all of this because this is ridiculous that he hasn't been signed yet.

That's what I think. Okay, but walk away meaning he's just going to go play in the KHL? Because if you're unsigned by this deadline, he cannot play this season in the NHL. But if we haven't traded him by this deadline, then he's got to go play somewhere else. Is that what you're saying? I don't think the KHL thing would be horrible for

a month or two, but I don't really know where else that's going to go. What other teams do you think would pick him up? Well, remember, we have his rights. He's not an unrestricted free agent, so he only has so much control here.

He has actually, he has no control really when it comes to the NHL. He can, we can trade him like we could trade him by Saturday and get some help on the D line or whatever. Or we can sign him and he can be wearing the blue and white like he should and be back in the lineup ASAP. Cause I heard Babcock say he'd play him right away. Or he can go play in another league because he would, again, like I said,

if he doesn't sign by the deadline, which is Saturday at like 5 p.m. or something, he can't play in the NHL this season. So, I mean, it's not like he can decide I'm going to play for the, I don't know, the Sabres now. No, but I don't think the Leafs are going to sign him. But are they going to trade him? I would think. This is Leafs talk. You didn't know we were going to do to sign him. But are they going to trade him?

I would think. This is Leafs talk. You didn't know we were going to do Leafs talk. So they're going to trade him. And okay, that's a possibility. And you're going with... I think he'll sign like a four-year bridge thing and then he'll be back in the lineup.

But wouldn't they have already given him, you know... At this point, wouldn't he already have that if the Leafs were going to give him something? I feel like he wants the number and the term. And I don't think... What's his name? I don't think... Kyle Dubas is willing to offer that number at that term.

The term being like eight years or whatever. So I think that's where the four-year deal comes in. Do you think he deserves the eight-year? No. I mean, because I keep, I mean, I like the guy and he's very talented. But from what we've seen, he's no, Pasternak is the guy that's kind of messing him up because Pasternak is a better player.

Everything else is similar aligned except Pasternak's better than Nylander and Pasternak just signed for, I think, six million a year or something like that. Wow. You really keep tabs on me. Not too much. You should talk to my boy. I have not the boy you met the my other boy who could just go so deep on this stuff. And how old is he? Turning 17 in January. And meanwhile I can't like I don't have time to go that deep on everything. I need to kind of stay here. So like I, I know what Pasternak makes, and I know how it compares,

but I don't have, like, I'm not one of those nerds that can go, like, I don't have time to go that deep. Yeah, I don't think any of us do. And that's our Leafs talk. There's a lot to decompress with the Leafs right now. Uh, great, I just remembered. Time has come today!

Time has come today. Time has come today. Time. All my volumes are messed up because I just rebuilt the studio. And I had all my knobs I have to play with. You're doing a great job of producing your own show. Thank you. Except I think people got scared when I played that really loud. But I play it because we're going to do a little thing here called Remember the Time.

And then I'm going to learn something about your TV viewing habits. Okay. On this day in 1975, as the world turns and the edge of night, the final two American soap operas that had resisted going to pre-taped broadcasts air their last live episodes. So basically up until 1975, soap operas, there were some at least, at least two at least, that were still live.

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The dishwashing liquid with long-lasting suds. So my question, Sarah. Did you ever watch soap operas? Or do you watch soap operas? Neither of the two you just mentioned, but I definitely watched some Young and the Restless with my mother, who seemed to always, I think her routine was like after school when I was growing up, I would come home and she would be preparing something for dinner. And then when it was cooking,

she'd be watching Young and the Restless. I think it had a 4.30 time slot. I might be wrong. You might be right. And then we would eat around six. Yeah. So I definitely watched some Young and the Restless with mom, but I spent a lot of time asking her

to change the channel as well before getting into it well that's great i i do know and this is gonna sound stalkerish but it's not i follow him on twitter but i do know that uh dave bookman watches young and the restless every single day and likes to tweet about it oh so even i didn't know that yeah because i see his tweets about it uh and again i don't watch any soap operas but i could tell you that As the World Turns is still airing. And it's at 54 years. That's the third longest continuous run of any daytime network soap opera on American television.

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fast time watch repair.com for a location near you and while uh we're talking about the sponsors who make this happen i've already given you the beer from great lakes uh brewery which your boyfriend's gonna try to drink but you're not going to tell him it exists. But I have something else for you. I love giving this away. This is pretty, like, I think this only started in November. So like you came at the right time. Oh, good. Beautiful red box in front of you. What does it say on the cover there? What is this? Palmas? Palmas. Palmas. Palmas Kitchen. Palma is the name of the matriarch of the Petrucci family. Okay. Are you related? No.

I do look like a Petrucci, don't I? Italian tradition, simply delicious. Okay, what's in this box? That's a frozen lasagna. Oh. So you take that home. I can't show my boyfriend any of this. But that's a lot of lasagna.

You're going to need help to finish it. I promise you. Okay. Because that'll last days and days if you don't. But that's a lot of lasagna. Like you're going to need help to finish it. I promise you. Okay. Because that'll last days and days if you don't. That's awesome. Well, thank you. In fact, invite me over. I'll bike over when you cook that up.

So yeah, you just let it thaw in the fridge for 24 hours and then stick it in the oven at 350 for like 45 to 60 minutes. I'm telling you, it's amazing. Okay. I'm not saying that because I'm paid to say that. Is it frozen right now telling you, it's amazing. Okay. I'm not saying that because I'm paid to say that. Is it frozen right now? It's frozen right now. I literally just took it out of the freezer.

Thank you. That's so nice, guys. That's from Palma's Pasta. Absolutely. Also an Etobicoke restaurant? No, actually. They are in Mississauga and Oakville. Okay.

And that Palma's Kitchen location is their new one. And it's at like, I'd say the nearest major intersection is Mavis and Burnham Thorpe. Okay. And that Palmas Kitchen location is their new one. And it's at, like, I'd say the nearest major intersection is Mavis and Burnham Thorpe. Okay. So go to palmapasta.com to find out exactly where. But it's amazing, that Palmas Kitchen. And they have other locations, retail stores in Mississauga and Oakville, like I said. So enjoy your lasagna, Sarah.

Thank you. Thank you. I might just play the Italian music throughout the entire episode, if that's okay with you. I'm okay with that. Okay. You mentioned Fanshawe College. Yes. Did you go to Fanshawe?

No, because I stayed in Toronto. Oh, right. And I went to U of T. So tell me about your origins in radio. How did you end up on London radio? So, funny enough, I did not want to be in radio when I set out to go to school. At the end of high school,

I thought I wanted to be a print journalist. I wanted to write in the newspaper. And I went to Carlton for a hot minute and dropped out. Cartoon you? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, Carlton was, I was doing well. Like I had a, you know, I was doing

well in my classes. I had good marks, but by, I think it was right after like Thanksgiving, I was seeing that some of my friends who were in journalism were already like out on the streets in Ryerson doing streeters or interviews and stuff. And I was sitting there like, I don't really want to learn about the printing press anymore. I don't want to write an essay about the printing press right now. So maybe because I was not as excited about the material, although I'm sure, you know, it's part of the foundation of what you're going to study. So I get why. But yeah, it just, I didn't see myself being able to sit through that for a couple of years until like at the end of this course at Carleton, you could

touch radio and TV. So probably because I was bored is the reason I dropped out to be quite honest. In that time when I dropped out, I, uh, I always listened to the edge growing up and I wanted to be part of that intern army, the street team. And I had no thought in my mind that I would ever want to work in that sort of environment. It was just a fun thing to do. I was working at American Eagle, actually, part-time making money and interning at The Edge

when I came back, you know, making back the money I wasted. Is this like the John Sinden era? Yes. I know John. He's in Ottawa now. Is this like the John Sinden era? Yes. I know John. He's in Ottawa now. Yeah, yeah. It was John.

John was my, the marketing director at the time. When he was at MLSE, he gave me a section. This is before the TFC was a really hot ticket. There was a down period. Okay. He gave me a section that for a read, I didn't even have the podcast yet. It was just readers of the blog, torontomic.com. And we had like a Toronto Mike section of BMO Field for thanks to John.

Yeah, John was the guy. And I'll never forget, John gave a pep talk to every person that got hired on that street team. We were all sitting in this boardroom. And he was going on about how you can make whatever you want out of this experience. You can show up for some events and see where it goes. Or you can really give her and make and see where it goes or you can really give her and make a name for yourself on the street team like if there's 20 of you how are you going to set yourself apart right right so yeah quite the pep talk and um and it clearly

worked because you're on you're on the radio now like this this pep talk john deserves some credit here that's a great pep talk he gave you john also i, I should mention, in London, when I was in London, I brought John on my show a couple of times when he was at MLSC to talk Leafs or whatever. And he's like, you know what? You should really bring on Paul Hendrick because Paul Hendrick is a much more interesting person to bring on on this topic or subject. And it turned into a regular segment with Henny tweets. I love henny

he's he's a guy i recently was speaking of milan from fast time he came on and we just talked about sports media personalities for like two hours but we were we find him interesting hendrick uh paul hendrick right yeah because his face and voice we've his we've seen him forever okay it's like he didn't age is that what you're getting's always there, like omnipresent in that voice, like introducing these Leaf games. But we both struggle to remember his name. Like, isn't that strange? Oh, really?

Yeah, I know. And I don't know. We both, we don't know why. Because he's a fixture of the Leafs media. He's been doing that for so long. So Henny tweets, he was a regular on your show in London. Yeah, so anytime there was a Leafs game,

we would do some setup. He would come on when he was on the road with the team, trade deadlines, all that kind of stuff. It was fun. But I'll rewind back to Carlton and dropping out because, yeah, ending up in London, I think, to your original point. Well, I need a sound effect for the rewind.

Like, blr-blr-blr-blr. Thank you. Thank you. So at the end of the intern army summer with the pep talk from John Sinden, the person in charge of the intern army, I'm going to shout her out right now, Renee, who was amazing.

Renee, you're awesome. She's like, she knew that I had applied to a couple of schools as like my, you know, my followup to Carleton. I applied to Ryerson and that was my, that was my first thing I wanted to do was journalism at Ryerson, broadcast journalism, but, um, I didn't get in. So I was left to my second choice, which was Western and Fanshawe. And she knew that I had made that decision by the end of the summer. And she's like, why don't you try working

for the Chorus Entertainment Station in London? There's a rock station there too. Do you want me to put you in touch with the guy? And that did eventually lead to me starting to work at FM 96 in London. That's London's best rock. Oh yeah, that's the one. That's London's best rock. Oh yeah. That's the one. That's cool. So you're, so is it

they're not happening at the same time right? Because that would be a long commute. No, so I moved to London to start school and the first year of that program, because it was a joint degree and diploma in four years. First year was kind of like, you know, just studying media

and communications at Western. By the second year you have of like, you know, just studying media and communications at Western. By the second year, you have to choose what you want to specialize in. There was radio, there was TV, there was broadcast journalism, which would be your news. And there was a, like a graphic design multimedia stream as well. And I was torn between the journalism and the radio. And I was trying to make this decision forever. I remember talking to so many people about it being like, do you think you're going to get more skills in one or the other? What do I choose? You know, ended up going with broadcast journalism thinking,

I'm still going to learn how to edit audio. That's a twist ending, by the way. Yeah, I'm still going to learn this and this and this, but hopefully I can find a way to do it more interesting down the road if I so choose to. And every single guest speaker that you have tells you, you got to go drive the summer promo car for your first job in radio, whether you want to be in the news or not.

So that's really how it is. I applied to work for the news cruiser, and they threw me in the rock and roll cruiser. Oh, that's funny. What, you just drive around handing out swag? Yeah, it's the swag gig exactly and um by the end of that summer you know because you would have to call back to the studio do live cut-ins and that kind of thing from your events that's when i was like i think i want to do that

instead so i had started working in promo there by you know two years into school i had a weekend show on uh on fm. And then when I graduated, it was time to find a way to go on air five times a week and, you know, develop my whatever this voice is. And yeah, that's kind of how it all started. You know, at the beginning of this episode, you mentioned that the raspy voice was not good for radio. And I disagree.

I just, I think it works. I was more saying the having a cold. Having a cold. Having a cold. Coughing is not good for radio and i disagree i just i think it works i was more saying the having a cold having a cold coughing is not good for radio yeah like when you sound all breathy and gross on the microphone is i guess what i was getting at but if you sound like this do you think i sound like that no i was like oh no no but if you had a little kathleen turner going on just a little bit, I think it works. Is it when I'm closer to the microphone? What I'm trying to tell you is you should start smoking.

It's good for the voice. I was taught that by Jeff Woods. You got to smoke to have a good microphone voice. Is that how he kept his voice sounding like that all these years? He says it's because I think I want to get the right age, but he started smoking at nine. Oh my gosh. Could that be true? Have you had him on? Yeah, a couple of times.

Nice. He even kicked out the jams, but we'll get to that. By the way, I'm going to tease the audience right now. We're not kicking out the jams today, but we are going to kick out a jam. And then at a later date, since you live so close to me, at a later time, assuming you're not banned from coming on because of your affiliation. I have to check with Brent before I come back. Brent.

You're going to come back and kick out the jams, but we are going to kick out a jam. But yes, Jeff Woods has been over a couple of times. Nice. Love Jeff. Yeah, he's a very nice guy. He's in Thornbury. Yeah, back up to Thornbury. He lived there for a while.

He was at West, then he was back in Toronto. You know a lot about Jeff Woods. Yeah, yeah. He's almost been like a broadcast mentor at certain times. And he used to come on my show when I had a weekend show in Kingston, Ontario, as well, to talk about his legends of classic rock. Okay, so was that K-Rock? Where were you in Kingston?

That's the only station I know in Kingston. So this is what's so funny. In Chorus Entertainment, they had the FM96 in London and they also had the FM96 in Kingston. But, you know, the kind of running joke with the London folk was Bizarro FM96 is the one in Kingston. Like the playlist was a little weird. What was the biggest difference in the playlist? The Kingston one was mostly classic rock.

And there were like, you know. A lot of Led Zeppelin and stuff. Yeah. And then, you know, they started bringing in like some of those late nineties jams that you're like, well,

is it classic rock? But, uh, that, that was the biggest difference was for sure in the, the format. But. Okay.

Okay. So now, just so I keep us chronological here, uh, the, so you, you end up as a part-time swing announcer at the Edge. So that was, yeah.

So to make sure that... Because you talked about the intern army. Yeah. But this is different. Yeah. So to keep it chronological for you, after weekends in London, after I had graduated school, I wanted to be on air five times a week. That's when I applied for a job in Kingston. Got the job in London, after I had graduated school, I wanted to be on air five times a week.

That's when I applied for a job in Kingston. Got the job in Kingston, was the evening host and music director in Kingston. Wow. While I was there, I was only there for seven months. It was pretty quick. While I was there, evenings came up in London. And although you would think like, oh, that's maybe the same move. Like, why would you do that again? You know, London's a much bigger market. So I decided to move back to London for that job. And then within like a year of being back in London, I got the afternoon show there. Good for you.

So that's kind of, and funny enough, the show at the time was hosted by Andrea Dunn. Andrea or Dunner as I love to call her um wanted to try and do like a country show so she switched formats she was doing mornings and yeah she kind of like set me up for some success because her like her show was always highly rated and big shoes to fill getting that afternoon show in london but that's when i started working part time at the edge just based on it being in the same company and wanting to try out some shifts at the other station but let me guess like because you're a GTA girl like your goal was always to get

back to Toronto yeah yeah for sure so uh so because it's chorus which owns of course both both FM 96 uh all the FM 96 are owned by Coren's Academy. Bizarro FM 96, which is now called Big FM, I should mention. Is that the London one or the Kingston one? The Kingston one is Big FM. The London one is still FM 96. Okay, gotcha. I only know Toronto radio.

I struggle with all these other ones. I'm sorry. No, I like to learn these things. So then you got an opportunity to do both the afternoon drive at FM 96 and some swing announcing stuff at 102? It was kind of very similar to what I do now at Indy, which is, I mean, I do have a somewhat regular shift, but you can't expect anyone to work seven days a week every week, right?

Right. So it was kind of like it started with, hey, do you want to fill in for a couple shifts around Christmas? Jewish girl here with her hand up. Yes, I do. Right? You're a Jewish girl? Jewish gal, yeah.

So it was pretty easy to slide in. Is Burke a common Jewish name? No, that's why it used to be called Birkenstein, as I was telling you, or whatever it was. I'm sorry. I didn't add it to my notes here. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay.

But being Jewish and being available on Christmas is actually what got me started at the edge. There's, yeah, it's a funny kind of story. But after doing that for quite some time, like then it became a regular fill-in. So, you know, when summer hits, those weekend announcers start filling in during the week and then they got to fill the weekend spot.

So that's why it was, it became a quite regular thing. What can, I mean, I do have great memories of that station. Like I don't have the opportunity to listen like I used to, but I did throughout the 90s, for example. That was my go-to

station. Oh, me too. I grew up listening to that. I never in a million years would have thought that like, Bookie would tee up that i'm coming up after him on indy 88 ever like that's crazy to me right so tell me like uh with all due respect to fm 96 it sounds like that was an amazing opportunity that opened a lot of doors for you but i won't know any of the names like but so now that we're at we have you as like a part-time swing announcer at The Edge. At Indie, do you mean? No, but no.

Oh, at the other time. First at The Edge, right? Yes. Can you share who were the others that were on the air at that time? Just to time it for me. Raina trained me on the board. So this was before Raina went to Indie. Of course. Melanie Mariani.

Who was recently let go of Adam, right? Yeah, Adam was on the air as well. Right. And I think at the time, Josie was still doing middays. And who was doing evenings? So was it Fearless Fred? Because what year are we talking here?

Approximately. Well, I did five years worth of this. So, it was kind of a span there. By the end of it, Fearless Fred was on Afternoons while I was there. Right,

because he comes in from Edmonton, I want to say 09. Yeah, so he was, you know what, he was doing Afternoons the entire time I was there.

It was middays that switched while I was there, I think. Yeah. So, those were the, you know, the key players

at the time and the Dean Blundell show was on the air at the time and all that. Never heard of it. And I see Todd every day now at Sirius XM. Yeah. Of course. Funny, right? He's on Canada Laughs. Yeah. Yeah. You know, Humble and Fred were on Canada Laughs, although they never did it from the, they never did it from the Liberty. No, they did it from their studio. From their studio, which is actually not in your hood as well, I guess. Right. Yeah. Not too far from here. But all right, we'll get to that. So, okay. So tell me how you end up at SiriusXM. Like, how does this happen?

So I had been doing afternoons in London and filling in at the edge for quite some time. And you know, that little like GTA girl dream of coming back home, I think it was wearing on me. But also, I felt like I kind of did everything I could do at the station I was at. I felt like I had kind of plateaued. I felt like my show wasn't even interesting to me anymore. So it was about finding a new challenge for sure. And because in London, it's such a small, it's, it's not a small market, it's a medium market and it's a great size to, you know, cut your chops in. But, you know, it was also starting to get weird. Like if I was at any bar on the main street there, you know, like people would know who I was or like grocery

shopping on a Sunday morning or the gas station or whatever it was. Right. And, and not that I didn't enjoy some of those things, but I was kind of looking to maybe step off the air a little bit as a personality and maybe get my hands more into like music and stuff. Sure. Which I've accomplished, but now I miss being on the air as much. So it's like, I can't make myself happy. But you do it. I think you're making your, are you happy now're making your are you happy now like are you a happy person yeah yeah pretty happy yeah and i know why because you have 100 jobs like right because you have many jobs yeah i would love to not work seven days a week

but you know part of me loves being on the air like local and live and at serious most of the stuff that i do is like i'll record interviews live off the floor in like studio sessions and there's tons more interviews than I was doing you know in chorus but uh it's all like produced and packaged it's not like we'll do a live show if we're live at an award show or the you know the Canadian Country Music Awards or whatever it is but that's the live it's very limited well here let me read something you wrote this somewhere it might have been might have been your website okay

I don't I didn't cite like where I got it but I copied and pasted something and it's a little dated because it's written before there was any Indie 88 stuff that you were doing but I'll just read it and then you can update it for me

okay I'm gonna do it in your voice I'm currently a music programmer and host for Sirius XM Canada. I program Iceberg, that's channel 758, and Canadian Indigenous People's Radio, which is channel 165. I host a daily music show on The Verge, channel 173, from 12 to 4 p.m. weekdays,

and I host live events and interviews for cbc country slash serious xm country which is channel 171 yeah so is all that still true so uh there's things that have been added to the mix and things that have been taken out of the mix um so we've launched a new channel at serious xm which you know i would i would kind of say is like part of my my new baby at work. It's called North Americana, so it's like roots folk music. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But is that like a bluesgrass type thing?

It's got some bluegrass feel. That's like, I would say, one category. Are there a lot of banjos in this thing? Yeah, lots of banjo. So that bluegrass would be like one category that we fit on that channel kind of thing, if that makes sense. Kind of, yeah. Outlaw Country would be on there, that kind fit on that channel kind of thing. If that makes sense. Kind of, yeah.

Outlaw Country would be on there. That kind of stuff. I like Outlaw Country. Yeah. Because I like Steve Earle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And again, I don't have a subscription to SiriusXM. But once in a while, I borrow a car from like, I don't know.

I just realized, will I ever borrow a GM car again if they leave Oshawa? I don't know. This is all an internal discussion I'm having with myself. But if I do borrow something from GM or Ford. I'll send you a promo code so you can listen online. How's that? Yeah, that'd be great. Because I had it in the car for a little bit as I had these cars.

And I discovered this outlaw country, that's what it's called. And it's, yeah, like Steve Earle was doing a show. And I'm listening to the show. It was late at night. I'm in the car. I didn't want to leave the car because Steve Earle was such a fantastic storyteller. And he was playing like songs that all fit a certain theme. it was kind of it wasn't just like willie nelson although i like willie nelson kind of stuff but he's also got a channel on sirius xm steve earl uh willie

nelson okay yeah willie nelson he's amazing too his son his son's doing uh you know what that movie with uh lady gaga what's this called now? This is called- A Star is Born. Yeah. It's funny how I said that. Bradley Cooper's in that movie. I believe Willie Nelson's son- Is in the film?

Not in the film, but like behind the music. Like he had some role to do with like- Oh, I didn't know that. Music, I believe. Yeah. Like I think there's a whole connection there. The Willie Nelson's son and A Star is Born. Like he had something to do with Bradley Cooper's like musicianship.

Oh, okay. Maybe he taught him how to play like that. Yeah, maybe like everything. Yeah, like I think he was like totally like hands-on writing the songs. That's cool. Playing with him and all this stuff. So yeah, like obviously Lady Gaga can handle her own shit or whatever. But Willie Nelson's son, yeah, was helping out Bradley Cooper with all his stuff.

Yeah. So yeah, The Outlaw Bradley Cooper with all his stuff. Yeah. So, yeah, the Outlaw Country, I didn't mean to interrupt you, except to say that I really did, you know, I always consider myself like a big time, like a rock guy who also likes a lot of hip hop. So this whole idea that I was so into this Outlaw Country thing, I was like, oh, yeah. Imagine my face.

I'm a rock girl through and through. And on my first day of Sirius where I've been told I'm going to have a show and program music for an indie rock channel. And I'm like, okay, yeah. Imagine my face. I'm a rock girl through and through. And on my first day of Sirius, where I've been told I'm going to have a show and program music for an indie rock channel. And I'm like, okay, good. First day, boss takes me for lunch. So do you think you can do country? I was like, what? And now I'm like right in the thick of it, like doing all these country sessions. And the musicianship is amazing.

I believe it. And I believe you have developed a bit of a twang. Like i listen to you talk you think i'm talking with some twang now a little bit there's a little go a little bit of twang going on there i think you're just around i forgot my tobacco around the laptop that cussing and a fuss and yeah you don't touch that dial it's got cut foot on it no cut on it. That's right. So North Americana, like that new channel, it plays all that stuff that we talked about, folk and the outlaw country stuff. And yeah, it's a cool channel to be kind of involved in

from the ground up from launch. And so I'm now, my big show is on North Americana and it's called Sunday Service. So it's like a look at the week in Americana music. Plus I get to feature whatever artists are like with new releases that I want to throw in the spotlight. And that just launched. So we've been working on that for a while

and I'm no longer voice tracking a show on The Verge, but voice tracking doesn't do it for me. So I'm not upset about that in any way. So is that to say you'd like to be either, you'd like to be live? Is that because voice tracking is just pre-recording? Yeah. And like say you'd like to be uh either you'd like to be live is that because voice tracking is just pre-recording yeah and like if i am going to be recorded i need to care about what i'm programming so like i'm programming the music i want to play in that show it's not just

me popping in and out of a daily log that's been scheduled is the difference but i like uh in 2018 nobody gets to kind of play what they want to play. I know. And even I was really lucky in London because I had the music programming background and I had been a music director. Music director and boss both really like trusted me with a lot of things that I don't think every afternoon host gets the opportunity to pick music in their show.

I actually had like, you know, daily music features in the show where I tried to like come up with a theme and let listeners like do requests for that theme and that kind of stuff. And they would trust me to make sure I was picking the right music. So are you, let me guess that you have like a master list you have to draw from? Like you can't just...

I make the master list. Is that right? For North Americana. Yeah. That's amazing. Yeahicana yeah that's amazing yeah because that's very rare nowadays and we do like you know our team we have a music meeting where we go through what we want to add into rotation on the channel but what i have the opportunity to do with that show is feature stuff outside of just the regular rotation

why am i okay so again because i'm not serious XM subscriber, but this station you're describing this Americana station, how come that's a serious Canada thing? Like it feels like that would be like, well, it's, I mean, yeah, it's programmed in Canada,

but you can get it in the U S. Well, no, you can get it for sure because they can, they can, of course we all share the same. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They, they get all our channels, but it's coming, it's coming out of Liberty village. It's coming out of Liberty village, New York or whatever. Yeah.

And whereas like a lot of our other channels play 100% Canadian music, this one does not play 100% Canadian. Does it have to play any amount? Like is there any?

Okay. So they still have the CRTC license. That still applies to like satellite radio. But we kind of have it as like a lump sum of channels that

if we go 100% Canadian on these other channels, we can play international on this channel. Gotcha. Gotcha gotcha interesting are you still doing i find it interesting you were uh doing the canadian indigenous peoples radio i still program that channel yep are you an indigenous person no i'm not you should still do that though yeah well and i'm a big advocate for trying to get an indigenous programmer in there so that's something you know that's an ongoing discussion uh because there's so many we actually just uh saw there was a there was just a

new radio station that launched uh is it element of element uh yeah for sure in toronto and half of the artists that i play on that channel who you know i'm in constant contact with like because there's like services right that you know certain labels will use to send you the music and all the assets that go with it. Whereas these indigenous artists, not all of them have access to those types of things or someone who represents them. A lot of them are independent artists.

They email me directly with their music and all the things that go with it. And you'll listen and if it's good, you'll play it? Yeah, that's the idea. And this channel is kind of a mixtape. So you'll hear some hip hop, you'll hear some stuff Yeah. Is that simple? That's the idea. And this channel is, it's kind of a mixtape. So you'll hear some hip hop, you'll hear some stuff in Cree language, you'll hear some country from indigenous artists,

you'll hear pop, you'll hear blues, right? A little bit of everything. But when I heard about Element FM, when I looked at their lineup, like half of those announcers are artists that I play on that channel. So I'm keeping an eye on what's going on.

Very cool. I think that's great. That's great. Because I don't believe that I should be programming that channel. I enjoy it. I mean, I don't want to say that it's inappropriate for you to program the station.

I don't believe that to be true. I'm just... Absolutely. I know what you're saying. Yeah, just because you're not indigenous. So it would make sense for an indigenous person to... That would be like throwing Ozzy Osbourne to program the country channel. Like you just don't do some things.

Right? Just to draw a parallel. Although I would listen to that station if Ozzy were programming the country station. Yeah. I like country as long as it's a lot of like, we keep saying Willie Nelson, but like give me like a bunch of Johnny Cash

or even like Loretta Lynn or just... Will you play some of those? Oh, but Dolly. I like Dolly Parton. Like when I hear that, I always dig it. But I just don't like

that whole thing that came with Kiss FM. Like that whole new country wave that came. Yeah, there's a lot of pop country. I don't mind some Garth Brooks, but most of the rest

I simply just despised. Yeah, what about Florida Georgia Line and Nelly together? Interesting times we live in, Sarah. I know. But going back to your question about, you know, why I left FM96, although I was apprehensive about the whole

country thing, like over the last year and a half at Sirius, that's been the coolest part like my eyes are so open to like the whole music landscape instead of just one genre of it and this is 171 right channel 171 uh that's the that's a different country station so CBC country is channel 171 so that one I I host um a weekly show on that's called live at Sirius XM and that's the studio sessions got any interviews okay 359 is North Americana, our new channel, which reminds me I should update my website. Yeah, you should update your website.

I know. At least stick some Indie88 stuff. Of course, yeah. And then The Verge. You'll still hear me doing something on The Verge now and then too, but it might just be more like specialty programming. So that's 173, and Canadian Indigenous Peoples Radio is 165. It seems to me like that's a lot of work.

Like that's a lot of effort on your part to keep all those things going. Yeah. And you still made time to do weekend announcing at Indy 88. Well, that's the whole thing. If you care about being live, you're going to make time for it, right? Does Indy 88 know that your country

passed? Have they Googled you yet? No, they can't Google you because they keep finding out about the late great skier. It was part of the screening and hazing process. No, I'm kidding. No, funny enough, the program director at Indy 88

has also dabbled in the country. So sometimes they'll be like, hey, you going to that show tonight? Or whatever. It's funny. Who is the program director at Indy 88? Ian March. Ian March.

The previous program director would periodically reach out to me and share info and ask me questions and respond to things I would wonder about. Could you name the previous ones? I'll know it when I hear the name, but he left the market. Oh, he left the market.

So you're maybe talking about the music director guy, Brian? Was that who it was? Yeah, maybe. Who's now in Kingston, Ontario. That would make sense. I think it would be Brian then. Because you couldn't have had that many. The station's not that old.

Yeah, I did not cross paths with Brian. Okay, I just wondered who the new one was. So can you tell me a little bit about compare and contrast, like the cultures? Because I've actually been inside, because I've been on Todd Shapiro's show a few times. So I know I've seen the environment there. At Sirius.

At Sirius, right, in Liberty Village. Yeah, they're so close, eh? That's true I'm just now in my head I'm just realizing exactly where that is and then exactly

where that house is at Indiana 8 that's amazing yeah like tomorrow actually Lana's off for the next two days so I'm doing

the afternoon show but I'm gonna like walk over at 1 o'clock and be there in five minutes so convenient so convenient and you don't even

live that far away like depending on traffic yes but you should be biking that like that's definitely So convenient. So convenient. And you don't even live that far away. Depending on traffic, yes. But you should be biking that. That's definitely not a very long bike ride. I don't want to bother or piss off any cyclists, but if you're still cycling at this time of the year and you're wearing all black...

Well, you have lights on your bike. No, I know, but none of these people do. And I think it's more of a hazard. You're risking your life every time you ride right now. Okay, well, I can't speak for those idiots who are biking without lights. Yes, I see you have a light in the back and the front. His bike is right beside us. That's right.

And this is good, right? Because like you need those things. And it's dark at like five o'clock now. I'm talking when I leave Liberty Village sometimes in my vehicle. I look beside me and there's someone wearing all black with no lights on their bicycle at all. Yeah, they're very difficult to see.

They don't even have like the reflectors on their helmet even sometimes. Yes. And I'm just like, what? Like, is it that cool to wear a skateboarding helmet

with no reflectors on it? Like, just to say you're wearing a helmet? Okay, Sarah, no. Okay, so forget that. Let's forget the whole lighting issue, okay? You, I know,

so Liberty Village, I'm going to, let's call it, you know that, what's that, there's a bridge right beside BMO. There's a bridge that takes you to, and I don't know what it's called. It's like Ontario Place, BMO Field has a bridge. Exhibition, yeah. That takes you to the Waterfront Trail, right? Yes. Because often I bike to BMO or whatever, or what's it called? Not Rico anymore.

It's Coca-Cola Coliseum. So I just bike there for a Marley's game with my boy. So you take this bridge that's right there. That connects you to the waterfront trail. The waterfront trail has no cars, okay?

Yeah. That'll take you pretty much to your home. Yeah. And I do bike ride from home to work in the summer. Okay.

Yes. So is it like October when you hang it up? Like you park the bike for the winter? That's my 14-year-old daughter's rule is she'll go until Halloween and then she says i'm not going again till uh

april or may my thing is like i don't like riding in in the dark uh in the winter like i i'm okay if i've gone to a concert let's say at um budweiser stage right i love doing that bike ride and i'm okay if i've got my lights and it's in the middle of the summer to bike ride back, especially if I'm with a friend, I don't mind. But I do not like bike riding home when it's this dark after work. So that's kind of where my cut off is. It's just 90%, not even going to oversell you except to say that 95%

of that ride, you're on a shared path with pedestrians, no cars allowed. Except on Dufferin, when you're trying to get out to cross. Yeah, there's a little tiny bit. You're right. That's why it's 95%.

You're right. There's a little bit there. So yeah, call me a wuss. I'm not calling you a wuss. No, but you can. And I will admit that I am about that 5%. I'm just glad you do that bike ride in the summer. Yeah, I love it.

And like the only thing that stops me from bike riding would be, you know, if the weather is terrible and it's raining or if I have a meeting first thing and I don't want to like need a half hour to, you know, to get acquainted with work. I hear you. I hear you. So can you compare and contrast the cultures of these two? Like how does the working for serious exam compared to Indy 88 in terms of like culture? Culture. Okay. So let's, we'll use the example of me being in the office for an afternoon shift just to make it a little more level. Cause as I mentioned, I'm alone a lot of the time at Indie. Right. Um, how does it compare? Okay. So

SiriusXM is still like corporate kind of feeling, even though the Canadian team is very small. even though the Canadian team is very small. So like programming wise, right? Like there's the team that we have in Canada for, let's say these, we have 15 Canadian channels total and a couple are programmed out of Montreal. But the team we have for all of those channels is probably the size of one of their biggest brands,

music teams alone in the States. Gotcha. Okay. So yeah, size of one of their biggest brands music teams alone in the states gotcha okay um so yeah we have to follow a lot of corporate guidelines and that types of thing there's a lot of branding red flags and red tape like if you want to do anything that has the company name on it so it's more corporate yeah yeah sure um but what they both have in common is a lot of freedom to support emerging talent that's what they have in common which is great now can you tell me a little about the little bit about indie so indie 88 and the name indie uh i you'll correct me if i'm wrong but i believe that it's because the owner of the station is not bell chorus or rogers is that pretty much why it's

indie 88 yeah so independent broadcasters, yeah. And they own stations in Barrie, is that right? Yes, there are some stations in Barrie, yeah. But only one in Toronto. And, okay, so Indy 88 took over the old CKLN signal because they lost their license because they weren't obeying some of these CRTC rules or something. And, of course course the playlist,

I guess the competition would be your old pals at Edge 102. This is the target, right? This is the... You would think, you would think, but there's also some other targets, right? Like there's some crossover in a few songs with like those very popular pop radio stations as well. Which you could name if you wanted wanted but you're talking about like yeah virgin or like 92.5 yeah a little bit of both

right there's like you know there's some of these indie rock pop tracks that have been crossover tracks over the last year like if you looked at who in the market plays imagine dragons right or who in the market plays 21 pilots yeah that Yeah, that's a good point. Those guys do crossover. Yeah, but just remember when it comes to Indie 88, that's not the meat of the playlist. That's just a factor in the playlist. Do you personally feel like the Indie 88 playlist is as broad as it should be? These are tough questions for you.

Well, it's already changed since I've been there. Tell me how. Believe it or not. I need to know these things. I'm always thinking about these things because I'm also a music programmer and that's my full-time gig, right? I think they've recently opened up

what we would call more of the... Those tracks that you're like, oh, it's so good to hear that. I haven't heard that in a while. Those tracks. Just to, you know. Like throwbacks? Like throwbacks, yeah.

You could call it that. Opening up. Are you playing any like, are you playing any like stuff that they were playing on 102 in the 90s? Like is this kind of a? There's some. There's some stuff in there.

Yeah. Like classic alternative. Is this what you program directors call it? A lot of what the edge played in the 90s we we have in a category rotating yes do you play anything from shakespeare my butt the lowest of the low l i'm putting you now i'm putting on the spot because you're not sure that's okay because you're not i can't think of a track that's come up in my show recently so but there's a chance that it's come up in someone else's show. I'm not sure. Very interesting.

Because you're at Indie 88, do you follow the big changes happening at 102.1? Like, for example, they have a new morning show coming in. I don't think you have to be at Indie 88 to be keeping a tab on that stuff. Anyone in radio is interested to see what's going on. So they hired a brother-sister team. Right, yeah, I've brother sister team right yeah they're gonna start in january i forget their names but yes i do too but they're like currently based in vancouver right moving here apparently and they

have a woman uh named meredith yeah and i know meredith actually gettys gettys yeah and she's moving here that's what i've heard yep because she. Because she was doing the afternoon drive from Vancouver, like from a chorus in Vancouver, which is strange to me. Like, I feel like you should be live and local for at least two shifts, like the morning drive and the afternoon drive. Well, you got to call up the man and tell the man that. I will. Is the man Brent?

No, I mean, like, you know, there are certain things in radio you just can't control that are certain things in radio you just can't control that are happening around you. Right. Right. So, uh, fearless Fred, we mentioned him earlier, but he's now on Q107. It seems like they've moved some like 102.1 parts over to the Q frequency, which is interesting. And then you, your brain starts wondering like if they're moving, like, cause Alan Cross

does imaging now for, uh for Q107 as well. Yeah. Like if you're moving like, okay, so work with me here. But if Q107 is becoming the new 102.1 The Edge, let's say, okay, that frees up 102.1 to be something else. Like I don't have any insight into this. Do you have any insight? Neither do I. No, I don't.

No friends over there talking? No, like anyone, like I'm friendly with people that are on the air in that building when I see them at events or whatever, but we don't like over a beer dive into like, what's happening with the programming on the channel? You know?

So Kid Craig hasn't called you up and said, No. And said, Sarah, you won't believe it. We're going to be at Country Station. No, but I've seen Carly. I've seen their music director around. I see them often, yeah, just at concerts and stuff. Carly did survive this tumultuous time there.

She's still kicking. She did, yeah. And I think she's one of the best things that's happened to that station in a long time. Her dad is actually, when I had Strombo on, Strombo took time to point out the massive influence her father was on his radio career. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stu Myers. Those are fun facts of the day. You mentioned earlier that you do play some stuff that's not just CFNY stuff, but you're playing some stuff that you might hear on Virgin or what's the other one? Kiss. And probably Chum, too, probably. Although Ch hear on Virgin or what's the other one? Kiss. And probably Chum too, probably.

Although Chum and Virgin being owned by the same company is always a little bit strange. But this is where I'm going. This is that they just recently made some massive changes at Virgin, including the morning show there. Like this is pretty fresh. And so Scott Tucker I worked with in London. Right.

At FM 96. Oh, yeah. What was his show? Who else was on? It was Tucker.. And so Scott Tucker, I worked with in London. Right. At FM 96. Oh, yeah. What was his show? Who else was on? It was Tucker. Tucker and Taz. And that was a very popular show, right? And they were on the air when I started there.

And they were incredible together. I exchanged a Facebook message with Tucker today. Being like, you should come on the show? Yeah, pretty much. Do you know Brent's phone number? Do you know? All I asked him was two questions. I said, Sarah's coming over. Give me some dirt on her. And do you know brent's phone number do you know all i asked him was two questions i said uh sarah's coming over give me some dirt on her and do you know brent that's all i wanted to know

scott tucker but okay now scott tucker maura grierson and uh these and andrew walk i don't know those other he's another guy honest andy wilson uh who i knew a little bit because he used to be the guy doing the Humble and Fred show. Oh, okay. Humble and Fred. No, he was doing the Humble and Colleen show on Easy Rock or Boom or whatever it was. Maybe both, actually, because Boom came from it. Yes.

Anyway, so I knew him a little bit from like some events and stuff. But what do you think is going on at Virgin? Like, you just have to guess. I know you don't know anything. I honestly. Because that's like 75% of the on-air people were there. I'm so confused. I'm so confused.

I don't know. Do you think maybe that they are going... It wasn't just Virgin Toronto, though. Correct. They were let go. And it seems someone who's worked for Bell said to me last week, it seems like they do this every November. I agree with you,

but I've never personally witnessed, I've never witnessed that percentage of on-air staff being let go without there being a format change. Like every time you got 75% of the on-air guys going at the same time, that's more than, that's something more dramatic than cost cutting. That smells like a format change. Yeah. and I'm very curious to know what's going on. Maybe what's going to happen is 102.1 and 99.9 are both going to go all country. That's what's going to happen. And then I'm going to

show up with my twang accent. Well, I was going to say, that's your time to shine. That's where Sarah Burke comes in and says, I am the Toronto country expert. No, but like with all the formats of music that I have my hands in right now, my... Which is amazing.

Even Indigenous People's Radio, which is amazing. Yeah, like, okay, you have to listen to this new record from Northern Haze, okay? If it's the last thing you do. Is it H-A-Z-E? H-A-Z-E, yeah. Just for when I Google this later. Yeah, so they have a new record

and it is the best rock and metal that I've ever heard. Like better than any Maiden album. I'm going to actually say that out loud. Go listen to it. But it is all in indigenous language. So I don't know what they're saying. I have a question for you as a person.

So you program the Canadian Indigenous People's Radio. Yeah. Okay. So I have a question for you as a person. So you program the Canadian Indigenous People's Radio. Yeah. Okay. So I have a question for you. And I'm thinking of this as I... You see what I'm staring at here, right? It's a record. Right.

What record is it? Tom Wilson's... He wrote a book called Beautiful Scars. And this is music inspired by this book, this biography. But he, for his entire life, because he believed he was of Irish descent. He lives in Hamilton for 50-something years of his life. He believes he's of Irish descent.

Then he discovers late in life, in his 50s, he discovers that he was adopted. And then he discovers his birth parents are Mohawk. Crazy, eh? Both. So he now, what he thought, he said said as he said to me just a couple weeks ago episode 399 actually he says he always thought he was this big sweaty

Irish guy and now he finds out he's a big sweaty Mohawk guy. Now, does Tom Wilson now get to be played on Canadian Indigenous People's Radio? I think the Indigenous community is welcoming enough to anyone who shares that part.

So why not? And since he discovered this, he's been exploring his background. Yeah, you know, I should probably go dive into the Tom Wilson catalog and see like another... He's amazing.

And I'm telling you now, this episode, I know you've only listened to the Danny Stover. She's amazing too. But this $3.99 with Tom Wilson, I can't get out of my head. This episode of Sarah Burke is much needed medicine

to get the Tom Wilson episode out of my head. Tom Wilson is amazing. Just amazing. And as you see, this is his artwork. He's been exploring his Mohawk roots. Yeah, he wants to learn more about it all now. There are some artists that, you know, I was doing stuff with in the country channel

and upon working with them. One, it was actually, I was sitting on an airplane beside one guy named Gavin Slate. He's a very popular writer in country. A lot of people love co-writing with him. Has music of his own too. But he's indigenous. Andrew Hyatt, who's a pretty well-known country artist right now in Canadian country.

They have indigenous roots. So I'm playing some of their stuff too. There's no reason why I can't be playing Tom Wilson, really. Do it. I should. Amazing. I'm going to look into this. And he's got new stuff too, like brand new stuff.

But your homework is Northern Haze. So I'll do yeah. Amazing. I'm going to look into this. And he's got new stuff too, like brand new stuff. But your homework is Northern Haze. So I'll do Northern Haze. If you promise to listen to new Tom Wilson and consider adding it to the... Okay. And the new stuff that's inspired by his newfound Mohawk roots would fit right in, I think, on your indigenous radio. Sounds cool.

Look at me brokering these deals here. Look at me go. I'm sorry. I cannot pay you a fee for the recruitment of these things. I was going to say, now you have to give me that lasagna. That's how it works, because I'm hungry. I'm going to be popping that in the oven in a minute.

Fantastic. Now, so you're at, right now, we've talked about all that stuff you did at SiriusXM, and you're working at Indie. What's next for Sarah Burke? You have any, I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. It's funny.

Your voice, by the way, as I listened to the headphones, you, you sound a bit like Raina. Really? A little bit. Oh,

that's so funny. A little bit. The one thing that is, is weird for me about right now versus the rest of my career is I felt like I always knew what was next. So I always knew GTA. I wanted to come I felt like I always knew what was next. So I always knew GTA I wanted to come back to. I always knew like I wanted to host a drive show, whether it was morning or afternoon. And now that I've done some of those things, I'm kind of like, what the heck?

What do I do now? In such a changing landscape too with radio right now i'm almost waiting to see about whatever's next before i dive into it i don't know have you considered podcasting yeah i have a podcast actually oh tell me about this podcast i should have known about my homework here uh it's uh it's myself and a colleague at serious xmM. We do a podcast called Bands and Buds and it's conversations in and around music. So we didn't want to limit it to artists because sometimes there are some very cool stories that come from a producer or a writer or whatever. We've had some cool authors on.

One of my highlights, recently we had the guy who wrote Tom Petty's biography on, Warren Zanes. maybe you've seen his name in rolling stone he's written some columns for rolling stone too so yeah it just kind of like leaves it open and it this podcast was born out of all of the music being submitted to serious xm and we don't have like we don't program a channel in every genre right so there were sometimes artists that we really were interested to speak to, but we didn't have a place to like dive into. So the podcast was born out of

giving a place for those conversations. But does this podcast belong to Sarah Burke or to SiriusXM? It's Sarah Burke, Andrew Kahn. He doesn't deserve any credit. Oh, he does so. You should hear this guy's voice. It is like butter.

Oh, is he like Jeff woods? He, he is this generation's Jeff woods. His voice is so awesome. You have to listen to his voice, but in bands and buds is the name of this podcast. Yeah.

It's on iTunes and Spotify and all those things. But we're, we're also in a place right now of like discovering and thinking about what we want to do with it. And, and, you know, We're also in a place right now of discovering and thinking about what we want to do with it. And SiriusXM is going to be looking at podcasting and stuff in 2019. So I don't want to say we're waiting for anything because podcasting is already happening. Why wait, right? But we don't know what we want to do with it yet.

All we know now is we want to have these conversations and we want people to be able to hear them. Cool, cool. Now we're going to kick out a jam and I'm so glad. Is this how it ends? With the jam? Well, we'll do the jam and we'll talk about the jam. And then if you have any final thoughts you want to share, of course, you have an opportunity there. Maybe you're going on tour or something. I know you're going to Victoria, but... Yeah.

When do you leave for Victoria? So the exhibition games are on the 19th and 21st. So that's like my dress rehearsal games. I got to be there for that. So I'm going to leave on the 18th. And I know there's typically, usually it's the US, I think, like a Christmas. I feel like there's a Boxing Day game. The tournament starts on Boxing Day every year.

That's it. I think there's always that big game. So there are games like just to clarify, there are games in Vancouver and Victoria, but I'm pretty sure the Vancouver people, they're going to use their Canucks hosts. So I'm doing the Victoria games. I do legitimately think that's like super cool. I'm pretty pumped.

Yeah. I do want to join you too, but I do want to kick out a jam with you. So let's, let's start this sucker up. Okay. You're a true fan if you knew what it was

after the first two seconds. El Scorcho. El Scorcho. Japanese girls do it to me every time All the redheads said to shred the trouble And I'm jello, baby You two won't talk, won't look, won't think of me I'm the epitome of public enemy Why you wanna go and do me like that? Come down on the street and dance with me I'm a night like you

So please, hello I'm here, I'm waiting I think I'd be good for you And you'd be good for me I love this song so much. How cool is that? I love how like fun these lyrics are, right? Well like I pointed

no one can see me pointing but you but I pointed to the Public Enemy shirt because I know he's coming into the epitome of Public Enemy which is a lyric, a Public Enemy lyric and the reference to Green Day and the whole half Japanese girls they do it to me every time like it is a super fun song but here I want to do a show

where we talk about the lead singles from highly anticipated follow-up albums. So you know how you have, let's say, the Blue album. It's huge. The Blue album is huge. So many big hits on much music and on the radio.

Massive, massive, massive. Hold on. So the Blue album was so freaking big and we all loved it. And we were all like, we couldn't wait for more Weezer. And then, of course, Pinkerton's coming out. And then you get to hear that lead single off the fall. So the highly anticipated follow-up album's lead single is a big deal to me. And this was that.

And it was killer. I almost want to listen and then hear you talk about it. It's funny because there are so many people that do not agree with that. But the lead, no, even the people who are disappointed by Pinkerton because it doesn't compare to the Blue album, there's a lot of those. All of those people, I believe most of those people loved this lead single. It's the album that they felt did it. Because every cut on Blue album was like a crazy big hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see what you're saying, yeah. But now your turn now. I forgot, it wasn't my jam, it was your jam. So I'll shut up and listen to you tell me about Weezer and El Scorcho. No, Weezer, like I went to an elementary school in grades 7 and 8, my final two years of elementary school or public school. It was an art school. And maybe someone listening went there, Baythorne Public School in Thornhill. It was an art school. And maybe someone listening went there,

Baythorne Public School in Thornhill. They had an arts program. And I believe that I am who I am today because of attending that two years at Baythorne, because there were such eccentric people around me at all times. I think I would have been a lot more boring without Baythorne. Like before Baythorne, I was just a bookworm. I'm telling you, I was just a little bookworm. But at Baythorne, they made you sing, they made you dance, they made you do theater, they made you do so many cool things. Anyway, so one of my best friends from Baythorne, she put on Weezer for me.

And at the time, it was in 99, so I think it was off the Green album. That was my hook. And then I went back and discovered all the other stuff, and I was like, Oh my God, this is, this is me. This is my band. And I have never let off that. Like every music meeting over the last 10 years, every program director is like, Oh, Sarah's going to bring up the Weezer song again. Right. Because a lot of the Weezer releases over the last 10 years, it's been like, ah, maybe we don't have to play it, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

But funny enough, like my first program director, a guy by the name of Jim McCourty, who did work at The Edge, actually, he text messaged me at the end of the summer. He's like, you'll be happy to know that I just added Weezer's Africa. Like this joke is ongoing. That was, yeah, the Toto covers. The Toto cover, yeah. Now, what's your favorite weezer album pinkerton man 100 tired of sex is on pinkerton right yes and the good life what a jam see okay i'm yes but uh i want to pink triangle i think it's cool like i think it's cool to say pinkerton's your favorite like i feel like that's the cool answer. I got the t-shirt. I got the record. The record is signed. I got to interview them.

Did you? This past summer. Rivers was not part of the interview, which I know can be to some people like the biggest letdown ever. Well, that is a big letdown,

actually. However, I've watched enough Rivers Cuomo interviews that I think he's not going to give anyone a good interview other than Larry King.

Larry King had him on his show. And Larry King did a good job. Larry King did a great job. But I don't think that Rivers wants to do any interview with anyone else other than a guy like Larry King. Maybe Toronto Mike. I'm not sure. I have to talk to him.

So I did get two original members of the band, which I was pumped about. Speaking of which, you're reminding me. I need to get this. I edited this interview. The audio is ready, but there's a video component. So I waited to post the audio. This was actually an Indie 88 interview. And there was an ongoing thing in London

about how every time Weezer came around, I could never land the interview. It was like an ongoing thing with the record rep and became a joke. It was like, ah, Berkey, I'm working on it, but no promises, right? And then there was always a reason, oh, they're tonight show they're gonna be too tired they're not gonna so it never happened over all these years and then uh yeah when they played budweiser stage

with the pixies this summer right my brother was there got the interview got to ask them all sorts of questions like there was i forget what video it was for there was a rumor about like a video shoot where um a dog pooped on, on someone like during the shoot. And I was asking all these questions like, did this actually happen? I need to know. And they were so,

well, you'd be ideal because you're a true fan. Like you'd ask the questions that fans want to have told. Like that's the whole idea is that you're not just going to do the formulaic thing. You're going to ask those questions that fans are wondering. And now I guess I got to capitalize like, cause they've announced the Black Album, finally.

Because they told me about it. They told me about it during the interview, and they've been alluding to it for a while now. But when that comes out, I'll have to get the interview out. My name is Jonas. I like the Blue Album. I do love the Blue Album. It's my preference.

Okay, what's your favorite song on the Blue Album? Surf Wax America. Yeah, I was, okay. Ooh, no, I'm changing my mind. Say It Ain't So. Okay, what's your favorite song on the Blue Album? Surflex America. Yeah, I was, okay. Ooh, no, I'm changing my mind. Say It Ain't So. Only in Dreams. I would have queued it up. I could have played Weezer for the whole 90 minutes.

Well, only in Dreams. But I'm not a fan like you. I'm not a fan like you. And I've fallen off a long time ago, actually. I only now hear the odd hit or whatever. But I got to admit, when I bought, because I just heard the Undones. I can't remember if it was on the Sweater song.

It's on the Blue album. Yeah, I know. It's the first Weezer song I ever heard. And I heard it either on the radio or Much Music. I cannot remember anymore what it was. But one of those two places. The 102.1 or Much, because I heard everything back then. Fair enough, fair enough.

And I heard the Sweater song. And I went to my local sam the record man not the big one at young and dundas i had there was one at like jane and bluer and i went there and i bought and i bought that album and then i played it through was it was it a cd was it vinyl cd okay cd okay no this is way there was no vinyl going on at this time my life i was past vinyl at this point but cd was it was all cd and i got that cd and uh i can't tell you how many times,

it's funny, my wife, when I got home, when I got home, I picked up the kids that came back because I'm always home. Like,

I don't come home. But my wife was listening to Tragic Kingdom by No Doubt. Okay. Oh, that's a good one too. Yeah,

which is a great album and I was thinking, oh man, I spun that album so many times and then I'm doing El Scorcho and I can't tell you how many times

I spun the blue album. Like, so many times I then i'm doing el scorcho and i can't tell you how many times i spun the blue album like i so many times i spun it like that was my wheelhouse at mid 90s yeah and it's funny because i got into all that stuff like in the 2000s right like it was 99 when i first heard of weezer sure because you're young or i still got lots of gray hair man so i have a lot more but you're you're right you do it what I would be doing with a lot of bands where you did

you came in at like the green album like you said and then you gotta go back and then whatever which is what you know I obviously was there

for the ground floor for that stuff because I got ears on you and you know what we should also say this is a very like this is an album

that is underrated the red album is amazing and that's the album I associate with when I first got into FM96. Remind me what's on the Red album. The Red album was...

Does that have the Muppets video? Where's the Muppets video? No, that's Maladroit. That's Maladroit. The Greatest Man That Ever Lived is on the Red album. What was the single on radio at the time though? Jeez. But I just remember the last single.

I remember there's been a lot of singles since, but I remember, can I look this up while you're talking? I remember when, uh, hash pipe came on the radio all the time. Like hash pipe was on high rotation and I always felt it sounded like, uh,

Gwen Stefani. Uh, there's a Gwen Stefani song that sounds like the same melody. And I always thought Weezer's ripped off a hash pipe from whatever Gwen Stefani. Speaking of. Oh, it's a hella, hella good is the song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen to them in your head, though.

Aren't they very similar? I'm pretty sure hella good came after, though. See, can you Google that? Google that before I play lowest to the low. Oh, Troublemaker is the Red Album single. Yeah, so that was the first single from Weezer's The Red Album. That was a big radio hit.

Oh, no. Or was it Pork and Beans? Pork and Beans is on this album too. Pork and Beans. Now, you need to find out, I believe the Gwen Stefani song predates...

Hella Good. Hashpipe. Hella Good song by No Doubt is... Let's see what year. Can I guess? 99.

No. Okay, tell me. 2001. Okay. And what year is Can I guess? 99. No. Okay, tell me. 2001. Okay. And what year is Hashpipe? By Weezer? They might be really close. You might be.

I'm pretty sure. My memory, but it's been proven to be faulty. Hashpipe Weezer is. See, if I had a smart speaker. 2001. They're both 2001. I believe it. Okay, it's close, but I do believe that Gwen Stefani. Well, we'll find out later because now I need to know what month and date of release of these things. So now it. Okay. It's close, but I do believe that, uh, Gwen Stefani.

Well, we'll find out later. Cause now I need to know what month and date of release of these things. So now it's getting very Sarah Burke, Sarah Burke. It's been a pleasure. Thanks for having me. So glad I got to meet you.

You're my neighbor. Yes. Invite me over for that lasagna and a, and a cold great length beer. Make me a promise. Well, make me two promises before I leave. Let me hear them first.

Okay. Promise number one, no creeping through the Indy 88 windows. No promises next. And number two, no creeping out Brent. Okay, you make me a promise now. Okay, what's that?

Tell Brent to come in and kick out the jams. I've already got them loaded in my soundboard. I can show you. I feel like kicking them out with you. I think you're going to stress yourself out stressing about Brent. They're clogging up space on my soundboard. I only have so many spots.

Maybe you just delete them and move on. I might, but I need to hear from him that I'm not coming on Toronto Mike and then I'll delete them. I need closure. Oh, closure is what it's about. Because right now he ghosted. I need him to say,

it's not you, it's me. I told Mike when I was going to call him on the weekend, I said, it kind of sounds like you're acting like a weird ex-girlfriend right now. Oh, about Brent. Yeah. That's right.

You recorded that too. I hope that doesn't make sense. But then I didn't put it on the air, so don't worry. I don't care. I didn't say anything I wouldn't say on your airwaves, but I didn't even swear. There you go.

And that brings us to the end of our 402nd show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Sarah is at Berk Talks. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Propertyinthe6.com is at Raptors Devotee. Man, they're hot. Those Raptors are amazing.

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week like I always do, but tomorrow morning, Damien Cox is on the show, so we'll talk to Damien. I'm a much better man for having known you. Oh, you know that's true because everything is coming up rosy and gray. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow won't speed the day. And your smile is fine, And it's just like mine And it won't go away

Cause everything is Rosy and great Well I've been told That there's a sucker born Every day But I wonder who Yeah I wonder who Yeah, I wonder who Maybe the one who doesn't realize

There's a thousand shades of gray Cause I know that's true Yes, I do I know it's true