Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Sharon and Bram: Toronto Mike'd #1141

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

In this 1141st episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Sharon and Bram about Sharon, Lois & Bram. Skinnamarinky dinky dink, Skinnamarinky do, I love you... Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Welcome, Sharon and Bram, to Toronto Mic'd. Thank you. Thank you. Well, it's an absolute pleasure for me. Now, Bram, we need to discuss how you retire. This is not how you retire. It's like the Godfather 3. Every time you get away,

they pull you back in. And then shoot you. If you're lucky. Bram, you're coming out of retirement. Yes. For a very special concert at the Winter Garden Theatre. This is November 5th. Skinner Marink,

a celebration of Sharon, Lois and Bram. Tell me... Brth. Skinnamarink Celebration of Sharon Lois and Bram. Tell me... Bram. Bram. You know, I've known it's Bram for 40 years and because I was warned not to mispronounce it. It was our fault. It's our fault for planting the... It's our fault. Right. It's Bram.

Of course I know that. I know that. Bram, I know that. Listen, tell me everything you can about the event, and then I have a treat for you here. Okay, I'm going to pass this over. Sure. I don't remember stuff that well anymore. So Randy is the producer of the show,

and she's the best person to describe it. Okay, let me introduce Randy. Randy is Sharon's daughter. It's true. And well, we are approaching the 45th anniversary of when Sharon, Lois, and Bram first started singing together. And I have for many years felt that their story would make for an important documentary. And as I traveled the country with them, I heard testimonials from their fans, who were adults now bringing their own children,

about the impact Sharon Lewis and Bram had on them personally. And I thought that if we combined the elements of that and a live concert performance, that would make for a powerful experience for everyone. So we have invited people from over the years who have been directly impacted by Sharon Lewis and Bram. Our friend Josh Loveless is a singer in the group Need to Breathe, and he's also a children's entertainer. He's going to be singing with us. We have a dear friend whose name is Roy George. He was a wish child. He met Sharon Lois and Bram when he was recovering from significant health challenges, and he's going to be accompanying our friend JC, who is a Nashville superstar,

and they're going to be singing a song of Lois's called Shoo Fly Pie. So in addition to the fans getting one last chance to sing with Bram in a live concert setting, our families are going to be up on stage performing with us and special guests and friends. And it's really just going to be an amazing evening. You know, I get emotional just thinking about it. I will tell you, I'm pushing 50 years old, father of four. I do not remember a time before Sharon, Lois, and Bram. And since we have so little time, instead of the typical A to Z deep dive

that we do on Toronto Mic'd, if it's okay with you, I'd like to read notes that were submitted from people when they learned that you were coming on Toronto Mic'd. I just want to read these notes to you, and if we have any time on the clock at the end, maybe a little bit of the origin

story, but are you okay to listen to these thoughtful notes from... Go ahead. Please. Okay. Get the Kleenex out. Okay. Karina writes in, thank you for providing a stable part of my childhood that I could rely on.

Wow. Mark D writes in, thank you for all the fun, the laughs, and for providing the soundtrack to my childhood. Wow. Press Play simply wrote back, I love childhood. Wow. Press Play simply wrote back I love you. Oh.

You know, honestly, I think I need the Kleenex because I'm going through this and I'm thinking about my own memories of us. You folks. But I'm going to get through this. Karen writes in Such joy you brought in your music to our children and to our family.

Thank you so much with hugs. Skin them a rink. It's very touching. Leanne writes in, thanks for being a part of so many of my wonderful childhood memories. Rob writes in, my two-year-old knows the song in two languages. Another generation passing it on. I love to hear that.

That gives us a lot of pleasure. And that speaks to what Randy said. What song, I wonder? I got to find out what song. I don't have that one there. But this speaks to what Randy mentioned off the top, which is everybody can come out to see. I don't have that one there. But this speaks to what Randy mentioned off the top, which is everybody can come out, you know, to see.

And this is, we're lucky we have this, because Bram, you tried to get away. You retired, and now you're back. You know, you're like Serena Williams. You couldn't retire, but... November 5th, everybody. So get your tickets while you can. Okay. Kevin writes in, simply two words from Kevin.

Thank you. Wow. Aaron writes in you are my childhood. Bridget writes in yes, I met Bram at TIFF a few years

ago and he was so lovely. It meant so much to me to meet him after growing up watching their show oh that's lovely i think that one of the reasons they have been so successful is because the people that they were on television it's the people that they are in their daily lives and there wasn't a disappointment when you meet them on the street or in the shops, you're really getting an authentic interaction with people who are genuinely happy to see you and to talk to you.

They always have time for their fans and I love hearing that that's the feeling that they received. Deborah writes in, thank you for the joy you gave my children and now my granddaughter. Yeah. Sharon, this one's a

very personal one, and I know this gentleman quite well. He's a good guy. Andrew Stokely writes in, at first he wanted to know if you were in person, because he was going to actually drive from Niagara-on-the-Lake and be here in person to see you. But he writes, my mother passed from breast cancer while I was working on Skinnamarink TV.

And Sharon was very, very kind to me. Well, I've been down that road. I mean, I would be kind to, I think I would be kind to, I know I would be kind to anyone who's dealing with, you know, that kind of hardship in their family. But I also have the personal experience of having had breast cancer three times. And I spoke about it publicly. And, you know, and my family, my parents and my children and Bram and Lois were very supportive of me being public about

it. And I think being public gave me an opportunity to help other people. And I agree. I think that's so. I appreciate that. Beautiful. You know, I wanted to say, listening to these messages, you know, we are deeply touched by these messages. And you have to know that we did not anticipate anything like this. When we embarked on this career, we decided to make a record together. And that's as far as we thought about what we were doing. But we did share a point of view about the kind of record we wanted to make and the kind of music we wanted to sing. And that had to do with it being, as we said on the album, a children's record for the whole family.

We wanted the parents to get pleasure from it as well. And we knew that using the best musicians and arrangers and doing the best performances that we could do would make a big difference. And I think that that's part of what kind of sustained us through all these years. Well, I'm going to burn through these because I would hate to leave any of these on the cutting room floor because people are quite excited.

We'll stay with you as long as you do that. All right, cancel your 5 o'clock, Bram, because we're going to be here a while. Now, Amber Healy. I like this one. Amber Healy. I like this one. Amber Healy writes in, thank you not only for the magic in my childhood, but for the gift

of a song my niece and I could sing together when we're far apart. Oh. Great. I hear that a lot about Skin and Rink. When we're on TikTok, we get feedback from people. You know, my Nana and I sang this together. She died last year.

Thank you for reminding me of her. Those kinds of messages are very prevalent. And when that person said, I love you, I think the other beautiful thing that Sharon Lewis and Bram did was they sang a song with people and to people that says, I love you. So that's something you can carry with you everywhere. You don't get tired of it. And for people who don't hear it, it's a real, it's like a hug.

It's like a warm, comforting message. Absolutely. And on that note, that's where Brayden writes in. I love you in the morning and in the afternoon. That's great. Listen, just in case anybody needs this, I have.

You're providing. Well, this one's for you, Sharon. Emily writes in my grandfather was one of Sharon's first singing teachers. Also, I remember seeing Bram often in the young and Eglinton neighborhood. So many memories of them through my childhood.

Now I'm really curious. I want to know who that was. Well, I'll find out because this is all tweets so I can reply back and she can. I'm very interested to know that. I will find out for you and get that information to Tiffany. I'd like to find out where Young and Eglinton is. Young and eligible, as we...

Right. Bridget says, I fell in love with the Gooderham Flat Iron Building in Toronto because of them. It's still my favorite building. building in Toronto because of them. It's still my favorite building. That's because we had breakdancing in front of it, I think. An elephant danced in front of it. You know, fans who come to Toronto often want to visit Kensington Market and the Flatiron building. The Kensington Market and the Flatiron Building, they want to go to the places where they saw Elephant Show filmed.

It really was a love letter to Toronto back in the day, and people really strongly associate the city with the neighborhoods. Riverdale Farm is another location that they especially like to go visit, the Metro Toronto Zoo. Lots of nostalgia. Well, you're on the right show for that. That's for sure. But Tom writes in, my kind of wild Sharon and Bram story was sitting next to them at

a wedding where Colm Wilkinson sang and there were multiple owls as part of the service. Oh. Yep. Yes. That was the marriage of our beloved keyboard player band leader for 35 years. It was at their wedding, which was a unique wedding and absolutely fabulous, owls included.

Apparently one of the owls carried the vows to the bride. That's exactly what happened. Yeah. It was a fabulous wedding and Colm was definitely a highlight. That was a really special moment too. One of those owls almost whipped off my toupee. Toupee that you're wearing now. Yeah.

Not at all. It's a realistic looking toupee. you're wearing now. Yeah. Not at all. It's a realistic-looking toupee. Yeah, right. I'm not even done with the wedding anecdotes here because Beach Boys Girl writes in, I will never forget how starstruck I was at six years old when my cousin married your drummer and you were at the wedding

and took the time to sing Candyman Salty Dog with me. I wonder if it was Lauren's. Was it Lauren's or would it have been? It might have been Usher's. Or maybe Bill's. We did go to Bill and Debbie's wedding. You went to Lauren's too. I don't remember Lauren's wedding. Oh, boy.

I wonder whose it was. I have so much following up to do with you guys. There was Eric's wedding, too, which was novel. Emily Muse writes in, Emily writes, Thank you for loving me sun up to sundown and adding this skimmy-rinky-dink to my life. What a nice way. Jake the Snake

says, you called me a monkey in the balcony at St. Catharines in 1979. What? I didn't get that at all. Yeah, he was probably very, very young and this was like he called him a monkey. I guess that's a playful thing

you might have done in 1979 at a concert. Of course. Five little monkeys jumping on the bed. One fell off and bumped his head. Mama called the doctor. The doctor said, No more monkeys jumping on the bed. Four little monkeys jumping on the bed.

One fell off and bumped her head. Mama called the doctor, the doctor said, No more monkeys jumping on the bed. Three little monkeys jumping on the bed. One fell off and bumped his head. Mama called the doctor, the doctor said, No more monkeys jumping on the bed. Two little monkeys jumping on the bed. Two little monkeys jumping on the bed.

One fell off and bumped her head. Mama called the doctor. The doctor said, No more monkeys jumping on the bed. One little monkey jumping on the bed. He fell off and bumped his head. Mama called the doctor. The doctor said,

No more monkeys jumping on the bed. No little monkeys jumping on the bed. None fell off and bumped their head. Mama called the doctor. The doctor said, Put those monkeys right to bed. It's all good. Now, Mike Moniz just writes in skinny marinky dink, skinny marinky doo.

And on that note, Debbie writes in, again, many of these. But I love you in the morning and in the afternoon. But I like what Cam writes here, right to the chase. My kids love you. I hope so. That's so nice to hear. I mean, we're not on television now. So when we were on television, we were part of, you know, young people's lives every day. Parents find a way. I heard a grandmother recently told us that she's transferred all of your elephant shows to a USB key

told us that she's transferred all of your elephant shows to a USB key so that she can watch with her grandchildren. Isn't that lovely? Wow. That's the best news that we can get when someone says that they're sharing, that they grew up on us and they're sharing the music with their children or grandchildren. That gives us a lot of pleasure. I mean, what we want is for people to take music into their lives, make it a way of life for them. And when they start sharing it like that, it's working. It's working. It's working.

Mr. Teach writes in, thank you for providing us with the perfect soundtrack that gave us permission to dream. Wow. Wow. That's great. Okay. CDN Elmo just writes back,

one word, I feel I could echo this, everybody could echo this, but one word, thanks. Okay. CDN Elmo just writes back one word. I feel I could echo this. Everybody could echo this, but one word. Thanks. Oh, welcome. You're welcome.

BD writes in, uh, this one's a little longer. I hope I don't mess it up. It says, uh, when I was five or so, my mom wanted to enroll me in a Suzuki music class.

I was a shy kid and didn't want to do many activities. I just wanted to stay at home and watch The Elephant Show. My mom called Cambium Is that how you say it? Cambium? Cambium Productions and asked for some help. Bram called me on the phone

and encouraged me to join in the fun music class and of course I did. Wow. You're such a good guy, Bram. Well, you know, we have found over the years that sometimes a telephone call that can last for five minutes

is one of the best things that you can do that. It's direct communication and it's direct contact. And we've done that our entire lives. Yeah. We have on the phone with people. We have friends in Arizona who, Oh dear. I'm sorry.

Aye. Aye. Aye. That's okay. Is that the elephant on the phone? It's funny you should say that because the person, can I say this? The person who was in the elephant costume in the elephant show is Paula Gallivan and she lives in Bermuda and I haven't heard from her for a while and she called me about an hour ago and we had a lovely long conversation so it's it's timely timely I was going to say that we have friends in Arizona a mother and her three sons whom she all of whom she adopted one at a time. And one of them was a wish child. And they came to Toronto. We were the wish.

And their names, they are the Porters. He is Josh Porter. They came to Toronto in 19... Early, very early. It was the last year that we were shooting the elephant show. 1988. And we have kept in touch loosely over all these years and um he eventually got a a transplant a kidney transplant which lasted for many years he needs another one now but we used to call him them the the boys we used to call them

every week because they didn't like to read. And we would call them every week and talk about good books that they could read and send, we'd send books. And, you know, so as Bram said, and she, the mother, of course, and the mother says we kept him alive. I'm sure that's not the case, but she feels that our role in his, in his waiting for the kidney transplant was. Wow.

B.D. who told that story about Bram calling them chimes in at the end with a nice little tag which is that now his or her daughter's favorite book is Skinnamarink and they were at your last show in 2019.

Oh, great. Wow. Lovely. The book is beautiful. We are very proud of that book. Randy wrote the extended stories for all of our books. Skinnamarink is just about different ways of people and different kinds of people loving each other in different places, different ways. It's quite beautiful. And the illustrations are by Chin Leng and they're absolutely beautiful.

And she also illustrated One Elephant Went Out to Play, which is the one that came out just recently. Now in my final minutes here, cause I could keep going, but I was wondering, would I be able to get the origin story, the Sharon Lois and Bram origin story? Sure. Do you want to do it, Bram, or do you want me to go? I can do that.

We were all of us solos working with children. We were all of us working through Mariposa Folk Festival and the Mariposa in the Schools Foundation. And we decided in 1978 that it was time for everybody involved in Mariposa in the Schools to do a recording. But there was talk and talk and talk and talk by the board. it wasn't happening it wasn't happening and finally the three of us got together with bill usher who was the producer ultimately and we said okay well let's proceed just the three of us plus bill and that's how it started uh and we did not know that we were starting a career. The intention was to make the record, as we said.

And the response of the audience is what really created the career. But ultimately, Mariposa and the School's artists did make a recording. And we participated. And we participated in it just as one group member of the, and it's a wonderful recording too. So it continued. All the rest of the questions are about that first album. I own that first album as well.

One Elephant, Deux Elephants. How's my accent? Was that okay? Ram, I'll do it better. Well, deux éléphants. You've got to say the ze. One of them, deux éléphants.

Go ahead and ask. Well, one of them is who really stole the cookies from the cookie jar? We all steal cookies. That was Jason. Liam says, well, I don't know if he's being sarcastic, but what's with the elephant?

But what is with the elephant? Like, it's all elephant this, elephant that. And I love elephants as much as anyone else. But how did elephant come to be such a key symbol in your music? We started to sing the song One Elephant is Elephant. And at the time that we had our first concert there was a production of Babar in Toronto by the Toronto Dance

Theatre and we said oh it might be fun to have an elephant dance during that song so we borrowed a costume and Bill's girlfriend got into the costume and danced around in it and it just seemed like a neat idea.

It was not a clever marketing strategy. It just seemed like a nice idea, and it evolved from there. And then, of course, having Elephant on the Elephant Show was Sharon Lois and Bram's Elephant Show, was significant. Yeah, I know it was significant because David Ryder, who currently writes for the Toronto Star, he wrote me a note yesterday night wanting me to ask you

about when you played the Ontario Place Forum. He says somebody was the elephant's assistant and he wants to know how did somebody get such a job to be the elephant's assistant? Randy, turn on your, yeah, tell them about two other people who were at the forum we loved playing the forum by the way that was like that was the ultimate favorite it was the

biggest mistake in the world to destroy it yeah lois lois's son david and i uh put on elephant costumes for uh one of those um forum concerts And the challenge of dancing in something with poor visibility on a revolving stage is that you have trouble finding your way off of it at the end of the song. So part of the reason you need an assistant is you might need somebody to come out and rescue you when you are trying to find the hole to get back down. You have no idea where you are. Well, yeah, because that stage rotated. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, we discovered when we're doing a song where we divide the audience into three groups, that your group moves away from you. I love that venue too, Bram. I saw my first concert there, Chalk Circle. And I mean, when I think back to the shows I saw at the Ontario Place for me, I will say this,

I bike Ontario Place almost every single day and I'm so nervous about what might happen to that property with this current government. It's a park. Yeah. Yeah. Well, a park is better than a park. Yeah. Yeah. Well, a park is better than a Ferris wheel. Yeah.

Anyway, I'm nervous. How did Skinnamarink become the de facto signature song? Skinnamarinky dinky dink, Skinnamarinky doo. I love you. Skinnamarinky dinky dink, Skinnamarinky doo. I love you. Skinnamarinky dinky dink, skinnamarinky doo. I love you. I love you in the morning and in the afternoon. I love you in the evening underneath the moon. Skinnamarinky dinky dink, skinnamarinky doo. I love you. I love you singing. I love you.

You're all terrific. I love you. We'll see you next time. I love you too. Boop, boop, bee-doo. Ha! It's also an accident, just like the other. We thought, you know, this would be a nice song to end the concert with. It feels right.

I didn't even sing on it in the recording. I just played the guitar. Lois sang it, Sharon sang harmony, and I played the ukulele part on the guitar. And we said, okay, well, let's finish with that. And it just felt so good. played the ukulele part on the guitar. And we said, okay, well, let's finish with that. And it just felt so good. It felt so right that we never did anything different for our entire career. Wow.

And it's only the 11th track on, I'm going to try it again. One Elephant. It's in the middle. Two Elephants. And it's the last track on a whole bunch of albums subsequently. All the others. It was with us forever. Lois went to her family in Chicago.

We all borrowed money from family and friends to make the first record. And she went to Chicago where her family was, and she asked her cousin if she knew any good songs. And her young cousin Lisa sang Skinnerink for her. And that's how it came to us. And in the recording of it on that record, there's an instrumental break with some tap dancing in the middle. And the woman who did, I wonder if it's still there.

The woman who did the tap dancing on that instrumental break, her name is Shirley Temple. Different person, different one. Different one, but that was her name. That's funny. I wonder how much confusion that's caused over the years. That's funny. Eric Warner wonders, did you ever, like did you have any idea how inspirational you'd become for generations of families worldwide? No, no, not at all not at all because we were just being ourselves it's not like we had these great ambitions to become

world models of something we were just us but and i think that's what randy is trying, describes the attempt to capture in the documentary is people talking about, I mean, we certainly never anticipated it, but we do hear it. Yes, absolutely. Now, Ibrai points out that on the Elephant Show, Eric, he he says was his favorite person on the elephant show. We should shout out Eric, uh, from the elephant show. Nagler, Eric Nagler.

He was pretty, he was a pretty funky guy. By the way, the 1979 Juno award. Okay. I, do you guys remember who beat you for that Juno award? Oh yes.

Anne Murray. I'll tell you a cute story about that. Oh, please. The next day we went to, um, of all the Juno award. Oh yes. Anne Murray. I'll tell you a cute story about that. Oh please. The next day we went to of all the Juno awards that we have won a few that's the one that I thought we were was we most deserved because I think we changed music children's music with with that recording but we went the next we didn't win and Anne Murray made a lovely record. And she's a wonderful Canadian icon. But the next day, we went to do a little performance at a library in Dundas, Ontario.

And the librarian, the guy, was waiting for us with a handful of roses. And as he approached us, he said, who is that Anne Murphy anyway? That's word for word true. Funny how stuff like that stays with you. It's so funny. That's funny. I'll say I also own that album. So I have to, you know, split.

And that was my core, you know, your album, their album. Rafi was a big deal to me. Absolutely. But also Sesame Street. And a question from me. Did. Absolutely. But also Sesame Street and a question from me. Did you guys ever appear on Sesame Street? Yes. The Canadian one, yes. Yeah, we were on that

a couple of times. I have to tell you something. In one of the pages of, what was the television magazine? It doesn't exist anymore. TV Guide or Star TV?

TV Guide. Is it Star Week? Star Week was in the Star. No, it was not. It was not. It was not a Star thing. It was TV Guide. It was TV Guide.

And one section was devoted to children's television. And it had a list of the top 10 children's television shows. And this was in the United States. It wasn't Canadian. And we were number two of 10. Number one was Mr. Rogers. And I said at the moment, if there's anybody that I would rather be number two to, it's Fred Rogers. Yeah. Did you guys meet him? It felt so fantastically good to have that recognition. Did you spend any quality time with Fred Rogers?

I don't think we ever met him. I don't think we met him. No. We spent time with Mr. Dressup, whom we adored. Ernie. Yes. Wonderful. Wonderful. We miss Ernie, but I think the name you were about to say, I think, was

Fred Penner. Am I right? Well, I meant Ernie, but of course we know Fred very well. We've, you know, our paths have crossed many times over the years. Especially at children's festivals. Those kinds of places you get to meet everybody. And do you meet the new, like I'm thinking of like a Splashin' Boots. Do you meet the new? Yeah, we know them.

We do know Splashin' Boots. Do you meet the new people? Yeah, we know them. We do know Splashin' Boots. They approached us and wanted to participate in a performance that we were in. They wanted to sing a song with us. We actually recorded one of our songs with them, for them. We do know them. But we're not as current in other people people who are out there now uh i gave you a bunch of accolades off the top i could have gone forever with people just want to say thank you and

thank you for for for everything over the last 45 years but you also received some pretty heavy honors from uh the queen like i was looking through this and i don't even fully understand it but firstly i should point, you're all members of the Order of Canada. Maybe you're going to do the caveat here. Are you, Sharon? I was just going to say that's the most incredibly

thrilling award to receive your country's highest honor in your country from the representative. We were just beyond thrilled for that. And Lois was American, so they had to make an exception to, they had to accommodate the fact, they don't give that out to too many Americans.

Yeah, she's Chicago-born. Honorary in her case. She got the honorary member as a non-Canadian. But she gets to wear the same pin. She got the honorary member as a non-Canadian. And, but you all. She gets to wear the same pin. You know, I will say I was surprised to learn that Lois was not a Toronto born person.

Like I just assumed Lois was one of us. Chicago. No, Chicago. You just, you should hear her talk. She came. No. She came to Toronto, you know, she spent, lived most of her life, more of her life in Toronto than anywhere else. And she came when her husband came to work at York University and he had most of his career at York University. And that's what brought her here.

Right. But in addition to the Order of Canada, also the Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal. And does that mean you meet, you, the Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal. And does that mean you met the queen? No. Wouldn't that have been something? No. No, but we had a really, really, really terrific Chinese dinner the night we got it. Sorry.

In 2002, when you get that Golden Jubilee Medal, a decade later, it gets upgraded to diamond Jubilee medal. Yeah, that was the night of the Chinese dinner. Oh, that one. Okay. That lovely experience. One of them was presented to us by, I've forgotten her name now, a woman who's in the Senate. She's Adrienne Clarkson's sister-in-law.

And she had a wonderful occasion, and she invited us to be at that occasion where she presented medals. And we sang O Canada at that event. Do you remember, Bram? I do. I do. I do. And she was also the one who said, it's time to change the words in O Canada. She helped us. We were, we were singing for, at a Blue Jays game. And there were some things that we were not comfortable with.

And I reached out to her and had many conversations with her. Why can't I, it kills me. I'm 79. That's why I can't remember her name. I'll remember it right after we hang up. Well, listen, you guys have been fantastic. I feel like I'm Googling it because I want to remember this for you. But let me see what comes up with my little Google here. Vivian Poi. Vivian Poi. Good for you. Well, good for Google. Vivian Poi? Vivian Poi. Good for you.

Well, good for Google. Wow. And she made such a, she had such a wonderful event. She did something really interesting. You know, there were, most of the people at that event were of Asian descent. And at one point, she asked the photographer to take a picture of everyone who was gathered. the photographer wanted bram and me not to be in the picture and she put a stop to that one two three no way get back in here into this picture i do you remember that bram i don't remember that at all it's not oh yeah oh i remember that because because we? I don't remember that at all. It's not the main thing. Oh, I remember that.

Why? Because we weren't Chinese? Yeah, because we're Caucasian. Am I just jumping in if you want to have one more question here? We're over our time limit. Yeah. Okay. That's my fault.

Go ahead. One last question. Or comment. Well, one last comment will be for the FOTMs listening. We're big fans on this program of the band Sloan. We love Sloan and Chris Murphy has paid a

visit here and he's an FOTM. A fun fact is that if you grab a ticket for the celebration of Sharon Lawson Bram on November 7th... It's not coming anymore. Oh, you know what? I did not know that 7th. It's not coming anymore. Oh, you know what? I did not know that.

Okay. Well, it's not his fault. It's just that he got a gig with the band and he's, you know, he can't come. He's been a lovely, supportive fan and we like him. We were on, what's his name, George Strombolopoulos with him and he was hilarious

and we had a great time together. Well, then I'll just close by saying, in addition to thanking you for your time today, I would just like to thank you for the music and the memories and everything. This has been an absolute pleasure for me. Oh, thank you very, very much. Thanks for bringing all that joy to us. Also, all those messages.

We really appreciate that. Joy to us also. All those messages. We really appreciate that. And that brings us to the end of our 1,141st show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer.

Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Sticker U is at Sticker U. Moneris is at Moneris. Raymond James Canada are at Raymond James CDN. See you all next week. I check ass, just come in Ah, where you been? Because everything is kind of rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the snow, snow Warms me today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine

And it won't go away Because everything is rosy and green Well you've been under my skin For more than eight years It's been eight years of laughter And eight years of tears And I don't know what the future

Can hold or do For me and you But I'm a much better man for having known you Oh, you know that's true because Everything is coming up, rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow Won't stay a day And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away

Cause everything is rosy and gray Well, I've been told That there's a sucker born every day But I wonder who day But I wonder who Yeah, I wonder who Maybe the one who doesn't realize There's a thousand shades of gray Cause I know that's true

Yes, I do I know it's true, yeah I know it's true How about you? I've been picking up trash And then putting down roads And then brokering stocks The class struggle explodes

And I'll play this guitar Just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up rosy and gray

Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away We'll be right back. And I've kissed you in places I better not name. And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour. But I like it much better going down on you. Yeah, you know that's true because everything is coming up rosy and green.

Yeah, the wind is cold cold but the smell of snow warms us today and your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away cause everything is rosy now everything is rosy

yeah everything is rosy and everything is rosy and gray.