Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Siobhan Morris KOTJ: Toronto Mike'd #247

Episode Date: June 28, 2017

Mike and Siobhan play and discuss her ten favourite songs.

And right now, right now, right now it's time to... Take out the jams, motherfuckers! I'm in Toronto where you wanna get the city love I'm from Toronto where you wanna get the city love I'm a Toronto Mike, you wanna get the city love My city love me back, for my city love Welcome to episode 247 of Toronto Mike A weekly podcast about anything and everything Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery A local independent brewery producing fresh craft beer and property

in the six dot com Toronto real estate done right. I'm Mike from Toronto Mike dot com and joining me is News Talk 1010 reporter Siobhan Morris. Welcome back, Siobhan. Thanks for having me. You were episode 101. That seems like such a long time. You said the episode number. I can't believe it was so long ago. I remember being excited that it was 101, which is like 1010 on the old radio dials. And I got really excited about that because it was like a complete fluke.

I want to say I did it on purpose. But yeah, so 101 is a long time ago. And if anyone listening wants to hear the story of Siobhan Morris and why her name is spelled this way, it's all in episode 101. So do that. Go listen to 101 if you haven't heard it already. It's a good one. People like that one.

Well, it's good. That's good to hear. And that's when I spoke to you about the reporter voice, but now I'm here to apologize somewhat to say that essentially I've confused enunciating

with reporter voice. You want to be understood. If people can't understand what you're saying, what the heck is the point of saying anything, right? And as a career mumbler who's never had to be on the radio uh like hearing you enunciate sounds strange but you're right you're communicating on the radio you should

enunciate exactly and news is important and so much stuff gets lost on the radio like all the you know it's the reason where you have to really, when you're giving out phone numbers, be really clear about what numbers you're giving. Because if you're driving, you got your kids yelling in the back, you're going to be thinking to yourself, wait, I must've misheard that. So you ought to be super, super clear. So people are hearing you. And you're not covering silly things like sports. You're, you're actually covering, like there could be like a murder in the city. Well, I mean, sports can happen as well. I mean, that's, it's a bit of everything, right? Yeah, I was covering a murder today.

Or not a murder, sorry, a shooting and a police chase. Like serious stuff. Serious stuff, yeah. But fun stuff, too. Cool. Now, is there, I don't know, 1010. So you did 101. How are things at News Talk 1010 these days?

Things are great. I don't get the full book or anything, but I see high-level ratings, and you look like you're doing quite well. We're doing well. We're not supposed to really talk about it. It's one of those, you know, not supposed to talk about it. But I know that the teams are very happy about how things are going, and everybody's pretty proud, I think, of the work we've been doing. Rumor has it the success of 1010 is because of these hardworking field reporters like yourself. I would like to believe that it is entirely on our shoulders. I don't think we can sort of prove that true, but I would like to believe that's the case. And I saw you, am I allowed to say you pulled up in a 1010 car? You can say that. Good, because I don't want to have to in a 1010 car? You can say that. Good,

because I don't want to have to edit that out later. That would be work. So you have a 1010 automobile. Two things. One is it's cool that you have like a, that's an official 1010 news talk car, which is cool. It is. It means that important things are happening when that car pulls up. And if you have to like leave this episode 20 minutes in, it's probably because news is breaking and you need to be there. Exactly. But also I was a little sad because you pulled up in a car and I remember like tweets from you last summer that you bought a bicycle. And I was thinking maybe Siobhan will bike here. I was so afraid you were going to ask me about this. It's number one on my list. I have really wimped out on the bike.

I really, I got it. I had grand plans. Like by the end of the summer, I was going to be doing a lot of cycling to things. And I just haven't been able to get my nerve up to cycle in traffic. I'm so afraid of being hit, of being cut off. And I know if I'm nervous, that's not a great place for me to be. No, you have to be confident.

You have to be confident. That's for sure. But there are, I'm nervous, that's not a great place for me to be. No, you have to be confident. You have to be confident. That's for sure. But there are, I'm just thinking, I know the area you live in, let's call it the junction. That's a very big area. Like I know, for example, it's very easy for you to take like a high park avenue through high park. And then you're next thing you know, you're on the waterfront trail. And that's kind of what I have done.

It is as long as I feel like I'm not with cars. The difficulty is I have to deal with cars to get to the trails. And I don't want to be the loser who's walking her bike for like four kilometers before I feel okay cycling. No, well, unless lesson, no judgment. I'm just glad you bought a bike and you tried it. Like that's exciting to me. I love the idea of it. It's just the practice is, is I'm a big scaredy cat a good psych in that area a good cycling street i was on it yesterday uh is annette so annette's got a bike lane it's not a separated bike lane but it's kind of a quieter street and it's got a it's got a bike lane if you can jump

on annette and take that bike lane to high park high park's pretty quiet next thing you know you're in high park where there's no cars are going like three kilometers an hour or something i can handle cars and now you're like you have a uh that takes you down you have a tiny little bit you got to do to get onto the waterfront trail and then there's no cars anymore it's gonna happen that's my recipe i'm working on it next time you come in to do your next 10 jams uh that is the uh the route you can take okay are you oh uh you work bell media so do you have any insight into the fact that my email friend,

Ann Romer, is resting her voice until August. Okay. Didn't I see that she was coming up on your show lineup or is this just the forever tease? It's forever tease.

I think it might, I think she seems, she says she's into it and she's coming in, but originally she was coming over in May and then it became June because she had familial obligations. And then June became July because she was resting her voice.

And I remember thinking, if I see her on CP 24, like I know she's lying to me, but I haven't seen her since now. I, yesterday, yesterday. Yeah.

Yesterday was my birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you. Uh, and so we were, I was chatting with her, like, let's, let's arrange for my gift. Let's arrange your visit. And she said she's she's now resting her voice until August. So I don't know what happened to her voice. I didn't pry. I just know she's not she doesn't want to do any talking until August. Do you know anything about that in the Bell Media

newsletter? I have absolutely no intel to offer on that know anything about that in the Bell Media newsletter? I have absolutely no intel to offer on that at all. There's no Bell Media intranet where these topics are discussed amongst the employees? No, no. Sorry to share. And final couple of questions before we kick out the jams. Are you still a Red Sox fan? I am. The Red Sox are coming to town this weekend. They are in first place as of this recording. I know it will not last.

I don't need the hate mail. I know it's only June, but I am living in the temporary glory of the Red Sox being in first, not sharing it with the Yankees. Please, do you remember? It was only a few years back when, was it 2012 or something? There was a

jays were in first in like late may and we got all like super excited like we were gonna print playoff tickets remember this i don't remember that that was that long ago 2012 was a pretty ugly year for the red socks so i was probably all wrapped up and being sad about that in episode 101 i uh tried to reason with you like maybe because you uh you were raised in saint catherine's yeah and you're you're living in the junction and you work for a toronto, like maybe because you were raised in St. Catharines and you're living in the junction and you work for a Toronto station, like maybe you should love the Blue Jays first and foremost, but you couldn't drop the Red Sox. No, I'm sorry. It's not going to happen. At least you're loyal. Now we know you're loyal. So speaking of loyal, remind everyone listening

who your father is. My dad is Paul Morris, who is the longtime music director at Hits FM, which is a rock radio station in St. Catharines, a real kind of institution in southern Ontario. It's in an old mansion called the White House of Rock, which is a pretty frigging cool place to be, really. And that's, yeah, H hits fm we call that and uh did when you like came up with your 10 jams did you remove any songs because maybe you were because of your father's influence like i'm just wondering he must have had great influence over your musical tastes was anything removed because maybe paulie wouldn't approve or anything no i think i added songs not to get his approval but because there are songs that i think, you know, he really, um, put on my radar artists that I think he really put on my radar. And, uh, I showed him, I actually

showed him the working list. I think there's been one change, uh, at a concert, um, that we went to on Saturday and he kind of was like, okay, I think there was one song that he was surprised, kind of laughed was on there. Um, but other um but other than that he thought it all kind of made sense with uh with who i am and what he knows i listen to and again it's such a personal project you've been assigned here like your 10 songs that you're gonna come and we're gonna play these 10 songs and discuss like is there anything more personal like did you hear mike wilner's 10 like no shame at all right yeah yeah threw it down like these are the songs i love and i don't care if you're gonna snicker at me love which i which i loved so much and they were obviously i was thinking you know mike is quite a bit older than me and they really sounded like of the era

where i can see him as a young man and i i sort of was thinking about the years that the songs that i've picked came out and i think you know with a couple exceptions you'll hear sort of the same thing i think you can tell when i was in exceptions, you'll hear sort of the same thing. I think you can tell when I was in high school and university based on the years of these songs. Well, yeah, that's partly why I'm excited to hear your list because, like, you're right. The first two guys, like, Hebsey,

I think he's in his 50s, I think. And Wilner, I know he's in, like, his late 40s, mid to late 40s. And you're not. So this is exciting to me that we're going to hear the taste of, I won't arrange, but much younger than those two people. I'm a millennial, a begrudging millennial. Who is, yes.

And we're going to hear that. Firstly, though, I want to recommend everybody listening that they go to patreon.com slash Toronto Mike and give what they can. I want to thank Jason Beattie, who actually emailed me some money to help with this passion project because he's a diehard listener who's in fact, he's such a he went through the list of guests to recommend who I should invite to come over for another visit to kick out the jam. That's cool. Yeah.

And why? Like any, these are the people you should invite again. And why? Which, yeah, it's very cool. So thank you, Jason. Also, while I'm thanking people, Andrew Stokely, who helped me put the studio together and is going to come in and kick out the jam soon. He heard that I was playing that, like that soundbite off the top that kick out the jams.

And then I come into the Toronto Mike theme song and I was doing it like manually as two different audio elements. And he's like, let me glue that together for you. And then- Make your life so much easier. Yeah, like I just have to press one button and it syncs up and everything with the beats or whatever.

So thank you, Andrew Stokely, for that. And you, having not been here since episode 101, you came before the sponsorship by Great Lakes Beer. I think you offered me water last time I was here. Which I forgot to do this time. I'm fine. Thank you. Are you sure? I'm sure.

I actually always offer water and I did not because I think it's because we were trying not to wake up the kids or something like that. But the beer in front of you is going home with you. So you can enjoy it. This is my, you've done my long weekend beer shopping for me, which is wonderful. That's the objective. And if you're looking for a quality pint glass to drink your Great Lakes beer in,

that pint glass right there that has propertyinthesix.com on it. Yeah, that's from Brian Gerstein. So Brian from propertyinthesix.com wants you to drink the Great Lakes beer in his propertyinthesix.com pint glass. Thank you so much. Parting gifts. This is way better than last time, isn't it? Way better.

Way better. And last time was cold, I think. It was snowing. We had a really bad snowstorm last time. I't it? Way better. Way better. And last time was cold, I think. It was snowing. We had a really bad snowstorm last time. I was here right before Christmas. See, I know it was December because our photo that I use when I have a photo on entries has a Christmas tree behind us. Yeah. So, and I realized 101, like in the next guest, I think after Scott Turner, and then there

was the Strombo visited, and I remember these Christmas tree shots. I'm going to play something from the other soundboard. Just one moment. Property in the six dot com. Call Brian at 416-873-0292. If you're planning to buy and or sell in the next six months, just by meeting Brian, you will receive a free property

in the six pint glass, just like Siobhan Morris just received. And okay, he wrote this. I can't believe this is true. He's also going to give you a six pack of Great Lakes beer. Now, he's buying that stuff, okay? Great Lakes has given that to you, but I haven't given Brian a supply of Great Lakes beer.

So if somebody is looking to buy and or sell in the next six months, call Brian at 416-873-0292. He's going to give you a pint glass and a six pack of Great Lakes beer. I think I'm going to call him. That's a good deal. That is a good deal. You'll be calling him from the 1010 car outside on your way home, I think. That's a pretty sweet deal. So call Brian. Brian Gerstein is a real estate sales representative with PSR Brokerage. Siobhan Morris, are you ready to kick out the jams? I am. I am. The screen door slams Mary's dress waves

Like a vision she dances Across the porch as the radio plays Roy Orbison singing for the lonely Hey, that's me and I want you only Don't turn me home again i just can't face myself don't run back inside darling you know just what i'm here for so you're scared and you're thinking that maybe we ain't that young anymore Thank you. I get to cover and study your pain. And it costs you to love her as the world's isn't around. Wasting summer praying and...

Siobhan, the hardest part of this is fading out to hear you talk because I just want to hear the rest of the song. But this is Bruce Springsteen, Thunder Road. It makes me so happy. I knew that Bruce had to be on this list. And I think this is the first song that I wrote down. If I was doing a rough sketch, I'm like, okay. But I said this is the first song that I wrote down. Like, you know, if I was doing a rough sketch, I'm like, okay, but I said, I don't want to overthink it.

What's the first Springsteen song? It's Thunder Road, Always. Because as much as I love so much Bruce, it's the one that immediately on those first couple notes, I feel like this sort of like bursting in my chest. I'm just so happy hearing it all the time. And that's the best thing about music, like that feeling, right? That's why we love music, I think.

That's amazing. And Bruce is just like open wailing. And I think this is one of the Springsteen songs. He has so many like this that are really evocative writing. I can picture being on this porch of this country house on a, you know, as the sun's setting on a summer night. This sounds like a song you listen to in the car, and it is. It's just, yeah, it puts me in this place like so many Bruce songs does, but this one in particular, I think. Have you seen The Boss live? I have, only once. It's kind of a competitive thing in my family. My dad is a huge, huge diehard Springsteen fan. And Born to Run was my parents' wedding song. So it's long passed down. So we kind of have to take turns. And I've only had the chance to go once at Cop's Coliseum in Hamilton.

Cops Coliseum in Hamilton. The Hammer. The Hammer. The Hammer. That's great. You know, Bruce, when I was a young man listening to music, Born in the USA was at the top of the... That's how old I am, Siobhan Morris. Born in the USA was at the top of the charts.

Single after single, and you hear Glory Days and everything. And yeah, then you go back and realize, hey, this guy was a big deal before Born in the USA, and you hear great songs like Thunder Road. So that's fantastic. Bruce. Also interesting, though, my youngest guest to kick out the jams thus far

out of a whole three people has gone back to the 70s. This is Dad's influence. We talked about that, and it was hard to be in my household not absorbing Bruce somehow. gone back to the 70s. This is Dad's influence. We talked about that and I just, it was hard to be in my household not absorbing Bruce somehow. I do have a story about this song too, though. Let's hear it.

You're hearing Clarence Clemons play saxophone there. The day that Clarence died, I can't remember how many years ago it was, maybe six years ago or something, or seven years ago. Yeah, it's that, yeah. My dad and I were in Cooperstown at the Baseball Hall of Fame. We went on a father-daughter road trip. I took him for Father's Day. And we were, you know, we did it just all in one day.

So we were driving back really late at night, hadn't paid attention to news or the outside world the whole day. And I said, give me your phone. You know, I've been cut off for too long. This is driving me nuts. And we were, you know were flipping through all these stations, and I saw on Twitter, I think probably, that Clarence had died.

We'd known he was ill, and I told my dad, and he like, I can't even explain. There was no hesitation. I don't know if he had like a button for Thunder Road in his car, but it was automatic. He just flipped on Thunder Road. The part in the song when it says, roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair.

He rolled down the window in the car and leaned out and was singing at the top of his lungs. And it was this really, really special moment that I always think about when I think about that song. Your dad had a boss button in his car. He just hit that. That's a great story. It's a pretty good button to have, I think, actually.

It's like those Teslas that have the panic button or whatever it is. Do they have those? What's a panic button? I don't know, zero to 60 in like three seconds or something ridiculous. I don't know. But if you're lucky enough to have a Tesla with that button. But that's great. Let's hear Siobhan Morris' second jam. I need more To cross the sea of loneliness Park this red river of pain

I don't necessarily buy Any key to the future of happiness But I need a little place in the sun Sometimes I think I will die Everywhere is somewhere and nowhere is near Everybody got somebody with their wine and their beer So I'm just a strategic figure in the corner Over here with an empty apartment And a best friend who isn't clear

Every time I see him he smiles That's Patti Griffin, Moses. I'm convinced this is the saddest song that exists in the entire universe. It just, oh my God. So I have to tell you, Patty Griffin, this album I think came out in 1996 or something like that. I only really found out about Patty Griffin two springs ago. Can I confess something? Sure.

I didn't find out about Patty Griffin until you sent me your list. That's okay. I am happy to spread the gospel of Patty Griffin until you sent me your list. That's okay. I am happy to, you know, spread the gospel of Patty Griffin. Patty Griffin is this really well-respected songwriter. The Dixie Chicks have covered her. Emmylou Harris works with her a lot. I was listening to an NPR podcast

that a lot of people listen to called All Songs Considered. They do kind of here's what's currently going on in music kind of updates and they also do theme songs. So they do songs that make you think of mom around Mother's Day. They did a podcast called Songs That Make Us Cry.

Should have been a huge red flag for me. I'm driving home from work along Dundas. And I got, I think, six or seven seconds into this song. And I started weeping uncontrollably at the wheel had to pull over um in the parking lot of a 7-eleven this is springtime so all the windows in my car are open because I like to have all the air coming in and I just this was not a pretty cry it was not like a slight cry it was a full-on we. And there was a man standing outside the 7-Eleven who just kind of watched this happen.

Didn't quite know what to do. Never asked me if I was okay. I was going to say. I think he really felt stuck. And like he didn't know what to do and kind of like watched me for a minute and then sort of shuffled away when he decided that I wasn't any kind of danger

or anything like that. Now, are you an easy crier? Oh my gosh, yes. Yes. I mean, I won't cry at anything, but it's something about, you know, her, her voice is so broken. It's a song about being, you know, feeling desperate and, and truly alone. And it's not that I was feeling anything like that at the particular moment, but she puts you there and, um, yeah, her, her vocal, I mean,

her songwriting is beautiful. Her vocals phenomenal in this song and in everything she does. Well, I mean, now that I know she exists and that she evokes these feelings in you, I'm going to go back and discover some Patti Griffin because, yeah, I just found out about her yesterday. So that's great. That's number two, Patti Griffin Moses. Let's hear Siobhan Morris' third jam. guitar solo For all the hours here that move too slow

There's all this splitting road that don't pass guitar solo If all this love is real I will weep And if we're only scared of losing you I will realize If I am strange and out here I will always be I will always be. I will always be.

Stronger now than me. Stronger than you. Our love will always be. And if we let it go. I will try to be there for you. Ryan Adams If I Am Stranger Not Brian Adams Not Brian Adams

Although they have the same birthday They do Which is amazing to me What are the chances of that? And you know what? They're really sweet Every year on Twitter, they wish each other a happy birthday.

It's adorable. And how old about is, how old is Ryan? How old is he? Approximately. He's born in 1974. And I only know that because he has a song about it.

No, because if you had told me he was born in 1984, I would say, well, maybe because he was born on Brian Adams' birthday, the parents named him Ryan in tribute. Ryan's his middle name, actually. His first name's David. I don't really remember

the story of why he goes by Ryan, but yeah, he's David Ryan Adams. I don't know. And anyone who follows you on Twitter, as I do, I see lots of tweets about Ryan Adams. You're a big Ryan Adams fan. I'm a huge Ryan Adams fan. He is, you know, if you were to ask me one artist who's my favorite of all time,

it's him. It's not a difficult call to make for me. And this song, I just think, you know, is so much of what's great about him. He writes a lot of really friggin' sad songs. And this is one of them about you know I think about the

you know a love ending but still wanting to you know have this person in your life and sometimes it's not possible um and yeah and oh it's it's just so good it's so good feel free to cry it's okay it's a safe place I feel okay there okay. David Letterman used to do these really great concerts. They were extended. He did a couple with Ryan, and those are just soul-destroying. They're so good because they're more him with an acoustic guitar without all the backing instruments. This is beautiful too, but those ones will really

sort of put a knife through your heart, I think. Recently, I heard his covers of Taylor Swift. Yeah. The 1989... I mean, I have it. I had a Taylor Swift fan in the family at the time. She's still in the family, but I think she's moved on to other tunes,

but that's how I know the Ryan Adams covers. It's okay. I mean, I like that Taylor Swift album. It's great. I don't know that I needed to buy the Ryan Adams interpretation of... But you did buy it. Because you're a completist. It's hard to be a completist with him now. It really is.

Partially because I am a music fan who somehow does not own a record player. And he is very big on, you know, limited edition vinyl singles. He does a lot of stuff on vinyl now and oh that's tricky then yeah i'm a diehard cd person so that's a bit tough there's a joke i some a joke about vinyl i think it was i don't i think the uh cartoon was it said something like this i don't know what drew me to vinyl whether it was the uh price or the inconvenience that's how i mean it's i think it's cool like the people who have the records and stuff, but that's awfully inconvenient, right?

It's the price for me. It's like, I buy a lot of music and I can't imagine, I mean, I'm already spending quite a bit. You know, you're talking, depending on it, 13 up to 18 bucks a pop and vinyl, you're talking,

you know, 25, 30 bucks. I couldn't possibly sustain my habit if I did that. I was in Winners the other day and they had Drake's Views on sale there and it was yeah it was like 25 bucks or something and that's on sale like that hurts that hurts my heart i can't and i was thinking i gotta take this out and i gotta drop the needle and it's all very like romantic if you will like yeah and it brings me back because i was raised on 45s and stuff but uh I've moved on to digital means and I'm not going back. I haven't even done that.

Like I'm still, still need the CD. I still need to do the first listen either in the car or like sitting on my couch, flipping through the liner notes. Like I still really enjoy the process of doing that. Lucky for you, there's lots of sunrises now. I see you opening up everywhere. I haven't been to one of them yet to see what they're all about and their new

revisioning. Well, you've got to get yourself to a sunrise record. Siobhan Morris, your fourth track is by my favorite band of all time. And it is the only link between you, Hebsey, and Wilner in that all three of you have a song in your

jam list from these guys. So let's hear. And it's good timing, too, because Canada, and Wilner, in that all three of you have a song in your jam list from these guys. So let's hear. And it's good timing, too, because Canada's... I don't know if you heard, Canada's birthday is this weekend. I had not heard. 1010 should get on that. The end guitar solo

Sundown in the Paris of the prairies We kings of all treasures buried All you hear are the rusted breezes pushing around with a vain

Jesus of us Sippo As if a lighter receives the killer's face Maybe it's someone standing in a killer's place Twenty years for nothing, well, there's nothing new besides No one's interested in something you didn't do We're kings in pretty things Let's just see what the morning brings Damn it, that's a beautiful song.

It's so beautiful. And the loon at the beginning, too, I just think, when I hear it on the radio and they've kept the loon in, I'm like, yes, it belongs there because i think it puts you so much to me anyway is like a drive to the cottage or at the cottage on the dock under the stars it's another one of those really evocative songs even though it's not obviously what what the song is about at all but it's how it's what it makes me think of and what it makes me feel i should be where i should be listening to it and if you're not canadian you might not know

that that is the tragically hip wheat kings i just assume every canadian has to know that song they play it i think when babies are born now in in the delivery room and i mean you're right about the loon like uh you know peak canadiana like that's so uh or has as tnt would say like canadianity like that's uh see, I dropped a TNT reference. So perfect. And the song's so gorgeous in the story and David Milgaard and everything. And damn it, what a beautiful song this Weekings is.

I was thinking as I'm listening to it, which I didn't even want to interrupt, like, let's just play it through. And I'm like, no, we got to talk to Siobhan. It's her list, not yours, Mike. But I'm realizing this song could make my list. That's how much I like this song. Would it be a lot of hip on your list, though?

But I have a rule, which I didn't tell you because you didn't violate it, but one song per artist. Okay. I didn't want Wilner to have 10 Duran Duran songs. Yeah, it's just, and I think we've had so much time over the last year to really kind of do some soul searching, I think, about the hip in a way that, you know, I think they're so easy to take for granted. And finding out that Gord was ill, I think, really sort of brought to the surface again that this band is fantastic and maybe a little underappreciated. I know a lot of people will think, oh, this band is overhyped, but I think understanding what makes them so good.

And we haven't maybe really talked about it in a while, and it's been hard not to talk about it, I think, in the last year or so. It takes a special band with a special sound. Like, just think about it. So Hebsey's List, which has Frank Zappa on it and Steely Dan, he's got a hip track. Wilner, who, let's face it,

like boom 97.3 come to life. We've got a lot of 80s stuff and some soft rock, some CHFI type stuff, and he's got the hip on his list. And you've got the hip, and you're a younger person, millennial, as you said, and you've got the

hip on your list. So it really is the tie that binds this nation, I would say. Fantastic. who's going to break the chain in the kick out the jams. Is it either Damien Cox or Sofia Yurskovich is up next and no pressure, but

you know, you got to keep this going. Keep it going. By the way, since your dad works at Hits 97.7, that is where I would tune in on my commutes. And if I was lucky, Iron Mike or whoever would play the Killer Whale Tank version.

That's the best version. And I only ever heard it on 97.7. Did you know that? How come? Like, is that a, where does it come from? Do you have the ongoing history of the Killer Whale Tank version?

I don't, you know what? I don't know. I don't know where that was even recorded what year like any of that you know what i've never really thought to ask but it is to me when i hear the you know the the studio version i'm like yeah that's fine it's whatever i don't care i want to hear the the killer we had a job before this yeah we want to hear that uh fantastic ask ask polly polly uh i was gonna say polly Walnuts. I'm like, Sopranos. Ask Polly.

I was thinking, whenever I hear Paul Morris, I think of the old PA announcer at Maple Leaf Gardens. Well, when Paul Morris, that guy, retired a couple years ago. Well, when they forced him out, you mean. Yeah. He didn't retire. And they put an ad in the paper for the job. And my whole family was like, you should do this.

This would be hilarious. Because they could have continuity of name. It's a different guy. Could you imagine? Oh, that's the other Paul Morris. Yeah. He does a pretty good impression of that Paul Morris, though, too. Goal scored by number 93, Doug Gilmore.

Yeah. That's the best I've read. That's not as good as your dad. That's pretty good. Well, not as good as your dad. I could never measure up. But thank you for the Tragically Hip. Let's hear your fifth jam.

My mind is clear now At last all too well I can see Where we all soon will be. If you strip away the myth from the man, you will see where we all soon will be. Jesus! See where we all soon will be Jesus! You started to believe the things that serve you You really do believe this talk of God is true

And all the good you've done will soon get sucked away You've become to matter more than the things you say Listen Jesus, I don't like what I see All I ask is that you listen to me Heaven on their minds. Marie Head, who I only know from One Night in Bangkok. And that's how most people know him. But I didn't know him. He was Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar to me.

The original cast recording, I don't care about any of the other versions. They're all trash to me. And that's 1970. If you're looking for this, it's on that 1970 original cast recording. The only version that counts. The movie, I'm sorry, no. No. But I got the right version.

You got the right version. You got the right version. Phew. Yeah. We listen to a lot of musicals in my household, and this is the I think the best, most sort of sing-along one. You can scream at the top of your lungs. I was raised Catholic.

I'm lapsed now, but still every Easter, it is not Easter until my brother and I, driving back to St. Catharines have this on in the car, just at the top of our lungs doing the whole thing. It's great. It's funny. Believe it or not, when I was a young man, this is how old this reference is, because my father shows up in this reference, but he had the Jesus Christ Superstar.

It's like a doubles album, whatever it was. And I used to play it, and I remember they had a track, What's the Buzz? Tell Me What's Happening. And I played this all the time, and I was really young. And I discovered Jesus Christ Superstar as well. It's so good. And it's not wimp. You know, I think you hear about other rock operas.

This is not like a wimpy rock opera. There's like real badass guitar in it. And I remember finding out, I don't remember how I found this out exactly. I have a couple ideas, but I can't settle on what, which one's true. Finding out that the guy who plays Jesus was the lead singer of Deep Purple blew my mind. I remember, like part of me thinks that I heard a Deep Purple song and said, no, that guy sounds really familiar. And my dad saying, yeah, that's Jesus from Jesus Christ Superstar and not understanding how that could possibly be because they seem like such separate worlds to me at the time.

Big time. But yeah, so that was a big hit in the early 80s, I guess. Murray heads One Night in Bangkok, which of course is about a chess match. Is it? I have watched it on YouTube and thought it was really cheesy. I mean, that's like my experience with it really. Oh, Siobhan. Maybe with your ears

it's cheesy, but yeah, it's kind of a cool song about a big chess match, I think. It's about chess. Sounds very dangerous. One thing I should point out, though, I get the list of ten songs and sometimes I know them, sometimes I don't, but I never do homework on these songs. I might listen, but I don't do any, one thing I should point out, though, I get the list of 10 songs and sometimes I know them, sometimes I don't, but I never do homework on these songs.

I might listen, but I don't do it, like I don't go to the Wikipedia page so I can sound like a real smart guy and tell you, oh,

this reached number 27 on the charts. I actually, so this is all organic, so I've dropped a few facts in the first two episodes, most of which turned out to be true,

but I was called out on a couple. Toto had many, many hits. I just want the world to know about all the hits. It's more than just Rosanna and Africa. Lots a couple. Toto had many, many hits. I just want the world to know about all the hits. It's more than just Rosanna and Africa. Lots of hits by Toto.

I was just like, it was like 70s stuff. Sometimes I miss a bit of the 70s stuff, but that's Marie Head, Heaven on Their Minds. That's a little different. I think that's cool. Yeah, I was a little nervous about putting a musical song in there because I, you know,

I will say that my actual favorite musical is Les Mis, but I didn't think that people probably were very keen to hear. It's not about them. It's about you, Siobhan. Yeah, I know. But, you know, this one just it makes me a little bit happier. On My Own is also very sad and I feel like i've kind of covered the sad song thing already there's uh yeah there's the the sad patty griffin tune so let's hear your sixth jam 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd o fwrdd o fwrdd. 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd o fwrdd. 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd. 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd. 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd. 1 llwy de o fwrdd o fwrdd.

1 llwy de o fwrdd. guitar solo All your life This is your kingdom Every beast has its poison Every lion has its vector Choose your crime Pour the ashes out the window Empty Mickey by the river

Shining like a broken arrow Young Lions, Constantine's In my imaginary world, this is like a graduation song for high school. Like it's the song that kids leaving high school graduation should walk out to and throw their hats up in the air. Because I think it's just this song about, you know, promise and just living with everything you have, loving with everything that you have. And it is the kind of song that when I think about makes me want to just like be outside

at a festival, closing my eyes with my hands up in the air and just like letting it wash over me. It makes it's just it's a happy, bright, hopeful song. This is a song you could listen to on your bike rides to get over that hill, right? I could. I think it would propel me forward. And there's a great lyric that we just rolled by. I have a big chalkboard in my dining room that I had this written on forever.

It had been there, I think, for three or four years. I never really mentioned it to anyone. A girlfriend of mine noticed it and made me a little embroidery, a little cross-stitch thing of it. And it just is make your love too wild for words. So I have now hanging up in my house, this little purple and black cross-stitch of Constantine's lyric. If you put that on a t-shirt, I'll wear it.

I think it's a great, it's short. You know what it means. It's not like too clever and cheesy. It's good. I like it. This guy's voice has that good mix of like too much gin and too many cigarettes. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's cool. I think he's pretty, I mean, he drinks. I mean, you know, as most rock stars do.

It's mandatory for most rock stars. But he's kind of, the Constantines have settled down now because they're all dads and focusing on raising their kids. He's actually, I think as far as I know, still in charge of the campus radio station at the University of Guelph. It's his day job now. Wow. That's where the forestry people go, right? Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I'll see, like, when's my next graduation I'm attending my daughter will graduate grade 8 next year I'll see if they can slip this into the playlist

I mean it's a little dangerous adult living for a grade 8 student but you're a cool dad so like I think you could make that work it would be fine and she's the most

responsible person I know so I think it'll work alright yeah I love this guy coming up your your seventh jam. Come on. I'm going to fly straight as an arrow. I'm going to fly straight as an arrow.

Ever since I made up my mind, I'm going to cross my teeth, dot my eyes and everything will work out fine. will work out fine My love got lost My love got lost This time she's gone for good My love got lost I paid the cost Walking in the deep dark woods

Walking in the deep dark woods Leaving them far behind I love this guy. So that's, I want to get it right. This is actually Joel Plaskett emergency. You're right. Yeah. Don't forget the emergency. I was just thinking it right. This is actually Joel Plaskett, Emergency. You're right, yeah. Don't forget the emergency.

I was just thinking about that. I'm like, yeah, I guess this is the full band. You were going to pounce on me too. By the way, your notes don't have emergency in there. I know, they do not. I forgot. And this song is called Workout Fine. Tell me what you love about this track.

I think it makes me feel about being at his shows because he's so fun to go see. And when he comes to this song, it is unhinged. It is party time. I know it's strange to think about if you're hearing it for the first time where it's just, you know, it's a mid-tempo song. There's nothing really crazy or blistering about it, but the way he plays, it's goofy. He, what's the word I'm looking for? Substitutes lyrics, makes up lyrics on the fly. There's a big guitar solo in the middle of it. He'll throw himself down on the stage a lot. He'll get down on his knees because there's a line about

that. So it's just always a little crazy, even if the rest of the show has been pretty, pretty tame. You know that things are just going to go to another level with this song. You make a good point, though, that often, I know with me, and you see a lot more live shows than I do,

especially now, but when you hear a song live and it's done in a way that it just, you go back and all of a sudden you love the studio version so much more because you remember that seeing it live so a lot of times it's almost like that expression you had to be there you know what i mean yeah yeah um yeah i don't know sometimes it makes me not like the recorded version it makes it makes it hard to listen

to the recorded version because it's just it's crap compared to what you've experienced. It's missing that energy yeah you can't get that on. I find that Joel a lot of his newer records for me are really overproduced I don't I don't love it's not that I don't like listening to them but I like them so much better when I hear him play them in person. You need to go back and listen to that grimy thrush hermit stuff coming out of Nova Scotia. Yeah. Did you know Chris Murphy was here? No, I did not know Chris Murphy was here.

Chris Murphy sat in that seat and you're sitting in a row. Rock royalty in this chair. Yeah. So we did speak

briefly about Joel Plaskett. Who else was here? Em Griner was here. Here, I've got to do all the dropping, but Em Griner and she and Gore Downey and Joel Plaskett

all have something in common in that they all had cameos in a movie that starred the guy from Dawson's Creek, Joshua Jackson. One week. One week. You know who else is in it? Don't tell me. Your dad's in it. No, Gord Downie is in it. Oh, I said Gord Downie.

Did you? I missed it. When you play this back, you'll hear it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, yeah. I'll edit it in so she'll think i say um do you watch house of cards no i i don't i'm the only guy who does there's a guy who's new in this season whose voice has been driving me insane he's like a you know um a strategist kind of character and it's been driving me nuts and i was like where do i know this guy's voice from i figured it out in the second to last episode that he's the narrator in one week because you never see him so I was just like

this voice of God it's a very distinct I'm glad you know one week you know it's a below the radar kind of a can-con flick not a lot of people I feel no one week I but I feel like it was this because Josh Jackson was in it I think it was able to kind of break through the noise and in Canadian movies in a way that they maybe don't always um so I think that helps I think a lot of people do know that one um at least compared to a lot of other Canadian movies that are still coming out that are also you know really well regarded and praised okay since you know one week, are you familiar with St. Ralph? No. Okay, St. Ralph is the reason I know one week because it's the same filmmaker, I believe. But St. Ralph is, and don't confuse it with the John Goodman movie, King Ralph.

That's a different movie, okay? But St. Ralph has a scene. It's a pivotal scene where there's a marathon being run. And the song that you hear is Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, but performed by Gord Downie. And there's a part in the song where you can hear Gord break, like his voice break. And when I first heard,

I've been obsessed with this version of Hallelujah since I first heard it. And this sent me on a whole story, which I don't think we have time to share now, but where I found the composer and I realized there is no soundtrack. Like you can't go now to Sunrise Records, future sponsor maybe, I don't know.

Sunrise Records and go buy the St. Ralph soundtrack. This does not exist. You can't buy it online, but I happen to have a copy in the drawer over here, so don't steal it. And it has two versions of this Gordowny Hallelujah, which I'm sure it's leaked somewhere by now. But that's why I know One Week.

And yes, Joel Plaskett has a cameo in there, as does Gord and my friend M. Greiner. Great movie. But that's a great track, and he's great. Yeah, Joel, I have nothing but mad respect for Joel Plaskett. He's good stuff. Let's use your toothbrush

Have you got a clean shirt? My panties in a white at the bottom of my purse. I walk into the street. The air is so cool. I'm wired and I'm tired and I'm grinning like a fool I've been on the floor Looking for a chair I've been on the chair Looking for a couch And I've been on the couch Looking for a bed

Looking for a bed Looking for my, my My right hand My right hand, man My right hand My right hand, man My right hand My right hand man, my right hand, my right hand man, my right hand, my right hand man. If we can't fix it, I don't know who can.

Joan Osborne, Right Hand Man. This is the song that I sing in the shower all the time. Like this is the, you know, I think people have like a loop of a couple. This is the only one. Wow, that's high praise for a loop of a couple. This is the only one. Wow. That's high praise for a song. It's so good. And I think that, you know, people, this is on the same album as What If God Was One Of Us that everybody knows so well and thinks of her as being, I think it's funny.

You know, you think about, you know, because there's God in the title, there's the sense of purity attached to it. And then this song is about having sex, loving having sex. The opening vignette about like a walk of shame, but not feeling shameful about it at all, which I think is kind of great that these are on the same album. And I don't, I remember feeling like

I should not probably be listening to this when it came out, listening to it in my bedroom at like however old I was, 10 or whatever. I don't think I know what I thought it was about, but I knew I was like, I don't think I should talk to my parents about me liking this song. Yeah, I don't know what this is, but I

like it. Yeah. It's a cool track. I actually didn't, I never knew about this track until you sent it over, but it's a cool track. I only know the one Joan Osborne song. I think most people do. And like riding the bike to places, the eventual goal is to have the nerve

to sing this at karaoke someday, one day, maybe. Can you give me a heads up when that's happening? I want to embed myself into the crowd. I think I'll go very incognito, wear a disguise to do it or something. But don't bring the 1010 card. It'll give you up. It's true. I'll go very incognito, wear a disguise to do it or something. But don't bring the 10-10 card. It'll give you up. It's true.

I'll take the 10-10. Either a murder just happened in this karaoke bar, or Siobhan Morris is singing Joan Osborne's Right Hand Man. She has the piercing in her nose, right? Yeah. I can picture her on that bus or whatever in the video. What if God were one of us? Really tight blonde ringlets and then the nose piercing, yeah.

Like an Amanda Marshall style hair thing going on there. Yes, big, big, big hair. Right. You know, she sounds a little bit like, oh, the problem with these live podcasts when you can picture somebody. What is the, tell somebody, tell somebody. She was a judge on Canadian Idol. Oh, Sass Jordan. Right.

Okay, I hear that. A little bit, right? I hear that. Yeah, I love the kind of like smoky, the same thing, the whiskey and smoky kind of thing. But this is hard to sing. Like a Melissa Etheridge kind of sandpaper in the voice. I love that too. Yeah. If he can't fix it

Gonna find a boy who can I might be singing this in the shower tonight. It's good. I find that you get really out of breath in the part where the chorus starts looping. That's really hard maybe you just decide to cut it short and go we're done here here's siobhan morris's ninth jam I got a day with the night Putting out my finger Gonna catch the kids dry Gonna walk on water

Fighting out the fight We're sweating in the winter The ball flies, we stay Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, ch And I'm all by a priest's hand Don't tell me I'll fix her Don't tell me I'll fix her Or just take her, babe No hand, no picture I'm on my tight Drumming brides at the altar

For barbed wire, please hide Chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, ch Date with the Night by, is it The Yeah Yeah Yeahs? It is, yeah. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs, who are from New York. And just Karen O, their singer, is badass as hell. And I think was somebody I was like, man, man, I wish I could be, you know, have that kind of confidence and just charge into this area that was, you know, lots of dudes and just own it, be like really magnetic on stage, did crazy things, was really unpredictable, still is unpredictable to watch when she's performing. And this is the song I like to listen to when I'm getting ready to go out on a Saturday night, like to kind of like amp myself up. This is the song that's playing.

Great track. One of my favorite songs of all time is Maps. Maps is nice. It's a lot more down-tempo. I sing that in the shower. Do you really? I do. I love that track. But this band, very cool.

Like you mentioned, she's great. Got a Chrissy Hine kind of vibe coming out. Just rocks. And I like that you've added some female rockers to the mix. I think we were sadly lacking female rockers in the first two rounds of kicking out the jams. Karen O, I think, is one of the best ones. I think she does that vulnerable relationship sad stuff really well. But I like loud Karen O.

Agreed. And what was the movie she did the soundtrack for? Where the Wild Things Are. Yeah, yeah. That was really nice. She did an album a couple years ago

that was all kind of like love. They're almost not even ballads. They were like slightly above spoken word. Not my favorite because I want the loud stuff. Yeah, we want her to rock out. Yeah.

All right, let's hear your 10th and final jam. Are you ready? I am ready. In many ways They'll miss the good old days Someday Someday

Yeah it hurts to say But I want you to stay Sometimes Sometimes to say, but I want you to stay. Sometimes, sometimes, when we were young, how many we had fun. Always, always, promises,

they break before they're made. Sometimes, sometimes, all my answers are lacking in them. Thank you. Great track, Siobhan. This is Someday by The Strokes. Excellent. My favorite band from high school. I think everybody kind of has that one

where it's like the soundtrack of your high school years, whether your high school years were crap or they were great. This is when I think of parties with friends, just driving around in circles with your friends, which is the thing you do somehow in the suburb in high school, and just singing this at the top of our lungs. And I think the Strokes kind of opened the doors to a lot of other bands. They brought back rock and roll. Yeah, they did.

And in a time when it was all very pop heavy where you had Backstreet Boys and Britney Spears and this was the return of the guitar sound. Because the White Stripes came at the same time. You had all the The Bands when the The Bands started being a big thing. The Hives. Yeah, in the early aughts though. The Hives are great too. But I think it's from

that, yeah, so you had all this garage rock stuff and I started digging back into I listened to the Velvet Underground after the Strokes, and listened to MC5 after the Strokes. So I think it's just like they were a real kind of gateway band for me to dive into a whole bunch of other stuff, but still just feel that embarrassing almost nostalgia for high school when I hear them.

Well, as a much older person, I can tell you when last night broke, like 102.1 was playing the mess out of last night and it was just, I was so happy to hear stuff again on the radio

like the rock I used to love like last night and Hard to Explain and this track and then it goes on to what, Reptilia?

Is that the next follow up? I think that's the second album, yeah. Yeah, the next album for sure. But love this band. They're great. Great taste.

Good job on this. Thank you. And he covered that Christmas song from SNL. Oh, my gosh. I love that Christmas song so much. So Julian Casablancas, the singer from The Strokes, does it. I have a Christmas playlist on my iPod, and I have his version, and also the one like recorded

off tv because that is also fantastic i also have his version on my christmas playlist as well and he was i don't know like but yeah you get a whole ramones vibe too because it's like a new york like white t-shirt like leather jacket kind of thing going on yeah it's just just straight up like garage rock or whatever really filthy hair hair, white belts, white shoes. It was a big thing in the early aughts. White belts and white shoes. I don't know why. It's funny talking to you.

It's bringing me back to that wave we just mentioned. The wave or whatever. The White Stripes, for a long time, were my favorite band I discovered as an adult. You know what I mean? Everything I was listening to, I was listening to as a teenager. Then this band showed up, white stripes and i'm like

i fucking love these guys and i'm like in my like late 20s and it's i still it's just was just great to hear like new music and get really into it again yeah that's really i don't know it's still really exciting to me when you can find a band and discover them as an adult where they're not connected to to memories so much and you're kind of like forming your opinion. That's cool. What's the newest band you really like? Or is that a loaded question? I feel like right now I'm,

I'm, I very much fallen into the thing that I've always heard adults talk about. We're just like, Oh, I can't keep up with new music anymore. Um, I have a friend who is really good about taking me to shows. I don't know if I have a band. I a couple weeks ago i had the the weirdest sort of like record shopping thing and

so i guess these are the albums i've been listening to where i bought the new kendrick lamar record which is not super new but it was you know new to me it's pretty new yeah to be honest i mean it only dropped i'm allowed to say that or the kids like i'm like a month ago i want to say well it was more than that. Damn, right? Yeah. I sort of was working on a project at work and was like, I don't have time to listen to non-work things for a while,

so I'll get to it when I'm done. So Kendrick Lamar's record, the new Harry Styles record of One Direction. Which has that late 60s vibe of Sign of the Times. Yeah. That song's okay. That's the only one I've heard so far. There's a very Ryan Adams sounding song on it, actually. I forget what it's called,

but a bunch of people have pointed this out. There's a song that really made me be like, I think I want to buy this and test it out, was there's a song that sounds a lot like Beck. So, you know, devil's haircut, two turntables and a microphone back. It sounds Harry Styles from one direction, which I think is enough to make you kind of go, okay, I'm, yeah, I'm curious. And he now has, he's really leaning into the, um, you know, really tailored suit, uh, Mick

Jagger thing now. So, um, he's got great hair. He does have great hair. And that's half the battle with these, these pop singers. Oh, and then I bought the new, um the new chris stapleton record too so that was uh it was one of those purchases where like the person at the counter at the record store kind of looks at you like what what is going on in your mind like these three well i don't even know that name i should know chris stapleton is a you know a country singer with a big rich, soaring voice that also sings hella sad songs.

Does he also sing about pickup trucks and girls? No, it is not like new bro country, like a little bit more old school country soul. Siobhan Morris, did you enjoy kicking out the jams? I loved kicking out the jams, although it was stressful coming up with the list. Once I had it, it was fun. Well, I think Damien Cox has his whittle down to like 30 songs now.

So if you think you're stressed out... I feel so good that I never gave you a longer list. Like, I feel good about that. Well, I didn't... Yeah, you delivered me 10 songs on Target before your due date. And I got to tell you, I loved listening to your 10 tracks and hearing you tell me about what you loved about them.

I loved it. Thanks for having me. Loved it. Yay. And that brings us to the end of our 247th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike and Siobhan is at Siomo, S-I-O-M-O, Siomo. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer and propertyinthesix.com is

at Brian Gerstein. See you all next week. around and drink some goodness from a tin cause my UI check has just come in ah where you been because everything is kind of rosy and green yeah the wind is cold

but the snow wants me today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away. Because everything is rose and green.