Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Skye Wallace: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1711

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

In this 1711th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with Skye Wallace who is in her sexy preggy ice tea chug era. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Yes We Are Open, Nick Ainis and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

Hi, this is Toronto Mike and I'm here with sky Wallace. Hi sky. How are you today? It works for me I complimented you as an improv artist and then I think you got lost in your one-liner. No, no, no and then I think you got lost in your one-liner. No, no, no. I was just... That was intentional. Yeah, I was trying to mess around a little bit. Welcome to episode 1711 of Toronto Miked, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times, and

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it's Sky Wallace. Hey, how's it going? Sexy, preggy, iced tea chug era. Do you know I literally copied and pasted those words from something you put on social media? Yeah, hearing it out loud makes me hate myself a little bit. See, I like to, I'm using it all over the place. It's in all the promos.

Yeah. Yeah. I like as a concept, very proud of it. Okay. I like it, but let's start with the, well, the sexy is obvious. Yeah. Okay. Always, of course. Preggy. You Sky Wallace are pregnant.

I am. Yeah. I'm super stoked. Okay. That's exciting. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very excited. Okay, that's exciting, congratulations. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited. Now how pregnant are you, Scarla? I'm like seven months or so. That's a lot.

That's a lot. Well, just so you know, I've been in the room for four deliveries. Whoa. If anything goes, like if anything happens during this recording, I think I know what to do. So I'm just letting you know you're in good hands.

Hey, okay, I'm in. I'm in Let's induce it. Let's induce. Okay. Are you sky Wallace superstitious? Um, I'd like to say no, but yes Okay, elaborate because you know, you're here on Friday the 13th. Oh, right. I you know what I You forgot you would you would have rescheduled How superstitious am I really? But I also like the idea of Friday the 13th being good luck, you know? Oh, I've heard that as well.

And I really like horror movies. So yeah, like when you say you are superstitious, like, what do you mean? Like, like how is sky Wallace superstitious? I mean, I think I knock on wood just in case. I like to do a lot of those little things just in case. And I think like, you know, my grandparents heavily influenced me. Like my grandmother was Scottish.

So like we would always clean the house on New Year's Eve. So that the first day of the new year, because it's exactly how your year is gonna go. The first day of the year would be clean, you know, so that you have day of the new year, because it's exactly how your year is going to go the first day of the year, would be clean, you know, so that you have kind of like a change. You know, I hadn't heard that one, but that one actually makes good sense. Like a clean slate. Like, you know how you remember way back when you had your first day of school and do you

remember this? At least for me, I would go to like Grandin toy and then to get a new binder, some new pens and pencils and a raise. Like I would be so organized that first day. Like I wanted to start the year with this, like on the right note. Yeah. Yeah. And then like by the second week, everything was just a disaster. Everything was everywhere. But that first day of school, I was so like prepared. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And also just like I would be writing all over my shit. So like I,

by the end of the year, it would be destroyed. So I would need a new one. So I like that Scottish superstition. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, like, I'm like, I've had experience with ghosts and stuff like that. Okay, now we're talking. Now we're talking. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Yeah, perfect. Here's your measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home. Yeah, perfect. Okay. Here's your measuring tape from really? Yeah. Measure whatever you can measure your belly. You know, I know that's a thing, right? You are you? Yeah. Are you documenting my midwives did that the other day? They like you have multiple midwives. Well, they're like a team. So depends on who's available and who's not. Oh, I get you. I was gonna say it takes a village to to get that Wallace baby. Oh, by the way, somebody was over. I get you. I was gonna say it takes a village to get that Wallace baby

out. By the way, somebody was over, I'm embarrassed. I can't remember who it was, but somebody was here who said they were at Sky Wallace's wedding. Oh. Can you name everyone at your wedding till we hit an FOTM who was here? Like, why don't I know who it is?

Was it, it's not Gina Kennedy, is it? Could have been. Was she at your wedding? I think she was there, yeah. It might be her. Yeah, that would be nice. I mean, I think it was Gina Kennedy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because I'm like, in love with altered by mom. Yeah, they're the best. I love them. Yeah, we partied in a curling club for that wedding. Which curling club? The Whippy curling club. Okay. Amazing. Because shout out to my get-bo. The only guy I can think of off the top of my head

living in Whitby, but amazing. So congrats on that. So that's recent. Yeah. Yeah. It was just in December. So like what came first, the marriage or the pregnancy? The pregnancy, technically. Technically is one of it's I need to know these things. Think of me like a doctor. So exactly. Would the marriage have happened without the pregnancy. Yes. Yeah, that's a very personal question Yeah, I don't know. I'm down to talk about it. Let's bear all So you were you were so is this a who you married to you don't give a first name Maybe my partner's named as Mick and he's great. You're with Mick Jagger. Yeah. Oh my god Yeah, like his 23rd kid. I know and I just figured I'd add my name to the list, you know

Well, you're both rock legends. So it makes sense to me So Mick Mick Mick is in a band Although he doesn't do he does a lot of other things as well But his band is called the bare minimum and they're a Toronto punk band and they're so sick. So that's cool Okay, so how did how did you meet Mick? Um, I think actually what cuz I lived with Devon and Gina and through that did I know that is? Is that a, like how? I'm not sure. It was like around the time. Sometimes I know people, but I don't know they're connected. Like that's exciting to me because I am like, I mean, I think I have a crush on Devin and Gina.

Yeah, for sure. They give me bi-panic. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, it's, I'm, I'm into these, uh, altered by mom people and you were living with them. Yeah. Yeah. During, I think it was mostly 2019 until pre pandemic. Yeah. What neighborhood? It was in little Italy. So like Euclid. Okay. So the taste of Italy is happening tonight. Oh, is it? And this weekend, which is this a great event and I'm shouting it out because I know there's a Palma pasta booth or whatever. And honestly, if you're going to taste of Italy, which you should, because it's a great

like street party, you need to get like the meatball sandwich or like in a Brio or something. You need to pick up some Palma pasta. They're going to be there. And there's going to be like a pasta eating contest on the weekend that Palma pasta is sponsoring. Could I send you home sky Wallace with a frozen lasagna would you take a frozen lasagna from Palma pasta I would sooner die than not take absolutely yeah I would be honored and doesn't get any of that no no exactly he's a waiter nice so okay So how did you meet Mick again? I feel like I got

through, I guess through just like hangs at the, at the communal household. And like, uh, was there an engagement? Kind of. It was like during the pandemic. I asked him, I was like, this feels right. Let's, uh, let's do it. And then, you know, couple of years. Mick's a lucky man. Is Mick going to listen to this episode? I hope so. Yeah. I got to check out this punk band this Toronto punk band yeah they're called the bare minimum yeah okay I feel like I've heard this name but then again I'm not cool enough to know some of

these uh these cool bands or whatever but uh I I think I only met I think I only saw Altered by Mom I'm trying to think I think I met them because they did like an Elma Combo thing and I went there to see Ron Hawkins. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like this is my memory. This is going back now. I was at that show. It was the unplugged North thing, right? Did you play? No. Okay. I did see you there.

Yes. I did. Okay. So Roddy Comer invited me to that thing. Roddy's the best. And that's how I met Altered by Mom. So I don't get out to these clubs and find out these bands unless they get connected to some legacy band I'm gonna see like I discovered you through lowest of the low. That's right. Yeah, and we just to pick it up we Had our first chat in July 2019 Wow, do you have fond memories of your first visit?

Definitely. Definitely. I feel like I can like see the, I can see the picture that we took together afterwards in my mind's eye. We're gonna take another one? Yeah, of course. Like my arm, I don't know if my arm is long enough to take a selfie that gets your belly in the. Yeah, we'll do it higher, like my space cred shot, you know?

I'll do my best. Yeah. I need one of those. Scene kid. Yeah, I need some, but that episode was episode 491. Wow. Mike chats. I know that's weird, right? Like before we hit 500. So, cause it does feel recent to me that Sky Wallace was in the basement, but now I see that six years ago, six years ago, isn't that wild? It's like baby

sky. Okay. Mike chats with Sky Wallace about her critically acclaimed third album being a, what was the name of that album? Okay. So there's a lot of different, uh, opinions about how many albums I've had because technically there's more than what is available online. So which one do you mean? The one that came out in 2022 or 20? What were you promoting in July, 2019? Oh, that one, that would have been myself titled. Okay. That's right. Wallace. Okay. Uh, Being a Canadian independent musician, are you still a Canadian independent musician? Yeah, I've gone through like a couple of different

changes as far as like, you know, different labels and things. I'm still with my management tiny kingdom. And though we are working together in like a label context, but kind of like a very independent, like we're kind of going in together as like three, you know, partners in the situation, all very indie ourselves. So it's, it's great. It's I just talked to them before I came here. Sky's hot. You're happy. I'm happy. Are you happy with your, where things are with your music? We're going to play new music and we're going to get to music. We're still kind of catching up here. Yeah. It's been six years. Yeah, literally. Oh, I bumped into you quite a bit because I bumped into you very recently at the garrison. That's right. The Tragically Hip Bookie

Tribute. Yeah. I was at that. Stephen Stanley put that on with Elliott Lefkoe. Two Sweethearts. Two Sweethearts. And what tragically hip song did you sing that night? I did grace too. I love that song. It's my favorite. Did you do, but you use the real lyrics. He said, I'm fabulously rich. Like that's the lyric, right? But on Saturday night live,

Gord says, I'm tragically hip. Like he messed up. Right. It's like a famous thing in like Canadian rock history. He messed up the opening lyric cause he was pretty nervous to be on Saturday Night Live. I mean, I think it was a great branding choice. I agree.

Like I would say, I think that's how we should sing it from now on. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I'll finish the description. I realized, and then I got to get back to the garrison here. We're going to jump around a bit, uh, shout out to house of pain, but we also. Had you play live, like you actually played live in this studio back in July 2019. And you kicked ass. I hope I, I'm sure I have video of that. I definitely

have audio cause it's in that episode, but we chatted for like 90 minutes. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. No, that was great. I wasn't sure if I should bring my guitar today, but it was, you know, it's kind of hot and cumbersome on the. Yeah. Look, I think in your state, you get too excited. My state. You're only seven months. Yeah, exactly. We got to hang on a bit here.

I'm worried that performing, you know, but you're still, you're still performing, right? Yeah. Yeah. Big time. It's been great. I've had a very blessed experience, to be honest. Okay. We're going to get to the current state of things in just a moment, but how did you get

involved in the the the Dave Bookman tribute? The we raised what we had to bring non-perishable food items for the Daily Bread Food Bank. How did you get involved in the hip cover event I watched at the at the garrison? Well, I was part of the first one that they did with the replacements. That was the replacements tribute. And it was well well, Steve, Stephen Stanley was the one who initially got me on board and that was just super fun.

And honestly, I'm just far more familiar with the Tragically Hip than I am with the replacements. So- Well, most people are in this picture. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And like, I opted to do like a little solo acoustic thing for the last one and this time to do it with the full band of like the,

just like the heavywe weights that are on stage as the house band for that show is out of control. Ian Blurton was in that. Ian Blurton, yeah, Jodie Knight, Anna, and Judd, those two. Right. Wonderful. Oh, great, great house band. And you did Grace too.

Yeah. And it was great to see you there. Yeah, it was a weird day. I had just had a friend pass away that day. So I was pretty like messed up and I was like, should I even, should I do this? I can't cancel. But like, what am I gonna do otherwise?

I'm gonna go home and cry a little bit. I mean, like my friend was a performer. They performed with me a lot. And I don't think that would make sense to them. So, you know, I felt a little bit of them on stage. I'm sorry to hear this. Like I had no idea. It was like, of all the songs to do, you know, it was a pretty cathartic one to be like screaming and and it's just so guttural and reactive and in the body. So I think, you know, if it was something like long time running, or it's really you know, if it was something like long time running

or it's really sad or if it was something like a blow up high, don't my fellow. Yeah, exactly. Might not have been like the vibe for me that day, but for some, you know, it just really worked and I was like, I don't know. I'm just going to do it. Okay. So, you know, Alan Gregg was on this show earlier this year and he was with Jake Gold. I saw Jake at that event. Oh, nice, yeah, he was there. So they were the, I believe it was the management trust, I think was the name of it, but they were managing the Tragically Hip.

That's right. And the Watchmen, who I'm gonna see tomorrow. Ooh, yeah, I just saw their little name over there on the picture. Oh yeah, because that's a, yes, right. That's a gift from the Watchmen that Brian Linehan would be proud of me. So there you go.

So I'm going to see them tomorrow at the Danforth Music Hall, which I'm pretty jazzed about. But Alan Gregg says when the band delivered their new album Day for Night, which has Grace 2 on it and it has nautical disaster, he basically sent it back and said this isn't finished. Like he needed a single. Like Alan Gregg was rather unhappy because they're coming off fully completely, right? Which had like, I don't know how many mega Canadian rock singles that we all know by heart, right?

And he felt it was unfinished in the band, of course, with their integrity, wasn't gonna like change a note. They said, no, this is done. But that was kind of an interesting revelation from Alan Gregg. Yeah, definitely. And I do think that I mean, that's a common thread as well with I think, I think it was the SNL where they chose to do grace to, which was a little bit of a left turn from what, you know, typical because they're trying to break into the States. And that's so hard to do. But from a typical American audience to have like an intro into the band and that's so hard to do. But from a typical American audience to have like an intro

into the band, that's a tough sell unless you're really, I don't know, it's just not what to expect. I remember it in real time here because I've got many, many decades on you. I remember distinctly thinking, oh my God, they're playing the two lead singles from the new album, which is what they would do if they were on some Canadian show or something, right?

We're gonna play our new single because we're promoting a new album. But because it was Saturday Night Live and America, well, the bulk of America had yet to embrace the hip like we had. You'd think they might do something like, I would say do something like, New Orleans is sinking. Sure. And maybe, I don't know, courage or locked in the trunk of a car. Something from Fully Completely maybe? Like you think give a couple of big bangers just to say, hey, this is the tragically hip. Dive into the catalog and catch up on what you missed. But I kind of love that they didn't.

I love and I love their career. I love their, you know, this cult following that they've had in Canada. Honestly, like a career that I aspire, you know, after I'm sure we all do. But just like I think there's so many different variations of success. And I think in this global situation that we're in, you know, everything's on the global stage now. I think it's really important to like, I don't know, focus on the other opportunities there are to be successful and to be sustainable as well as like maybe it is just here. You don't have to always be pushing

to break into the States. You don't have to, you know, you can. And I think there's a lot of merit to that. But I think there's just so many ways to exist and subsist in the arts world. But I can imagine it's tough for a non-legacy artist like yourself playing rock and roll music in this country. Like it's gotta be tough because I kind of alluded

to it earlier, like I discover bands cause I go to see like bands I loved in the 90s. Like this is where I'm at. So I feel like the rock not rocks, not dead, obviously, but in terms of a mass commercial appeal, it feels like everything is the old legacy acts. It seems tough for newer rock acts to break through and cut through that noise. Definitely. And that comes from, you know, radio. There's there's very there's fewer and fewer spots left for newer bands to be added to things like that.

That's and that's still a marker for things like, you know, how your ticket sales are, thus what festivals you get into, what kind of, you know, stages you get to play and things like that. And so, you know, streams are also another, it's just another beast that are, it's very hard to figure out the right angle. And sometimes it's just a matter of having label money and label connections. And that's really hard to parse as well,

because yeah, are you trying to fit somewhere? And then as your music reflecting, you trying to fit somewhere and all that. So I think that's kind of something that I've gone through. I know a lot of artists in my kind of sphere have gone through and I'm kind of at the point where I don't want to do that exactly anymore. You know, I want to do whatever it is that I want to do. Well, you're an artist.

Yeah. I don't want to figure out how to make that sustainable because I plan to do this for my whole life. And I think that's where this sexy, preggy thing kind of comes all full circle is because I Felt like I was running away or at least putting it off for so long is this idea of like wanting I've always wanted a family and I feel like it was a competing vision for where my life could go with music Because it's like well, you have to choose one or the other it's like I'm not going to and I'm gonna keep touring it I'm gonna keep doing this because, I commit myself to it.

Well, since you brought it up again and I do like how these words string together. Okay. So you're sexy, preggy, iced tea, chug era. Okay. Don't cringe when I say that you wrote those words. Yeah, listen, I thought it was a pretty accurate cause cause I follow you on social media. So I'm seeing the pics, right? And that's kind of a good descriptor. Like you're you're pregnant and you're feeling beautiful. Yeah, you're kind of like it's a different. It's a can I say this? I hope not. Oh, yeah. Mick won't be upset. A sexier sky like you're sort of letting your your your your sex appeal. You're putting it on display in a manner that you haven't really historically done. And then you can tell us how iced tea,

I know how I have a song loaded up called iced tea, but all of this maybe speak to like this era, as you describe it and shout out to Taylor Swift who was at the Panthers game last night. Do you follow hockey? Not really, I follow it when the Leafs are, I'll have a chance. So you don't follow much playoff hockey is what you're telling me. really. I follow it when the Leafs are have a chance. So you don't follow much playoff hockey is what you're telling me.

Sorry, only when... I'm in a similar boat, but I'm married to an Oilers fanatic. So damn, I am. But no, not damn, because I got to say last night, the Panthers were up three nothing in the first period and I declared, put a fork in it. This season is done. The Panthers are repeating the Stanley Cup Champions because they were gonna go up three to one

and I figured they're gonna close it out. What a great team. I said those words, Sky, put a fork in it, okay? Fast forward at the end of the second period, I'm like, oh my God, they came back. It is three all. The Oilers won in overtime. Oh my God.

Yeah, so now the series is now a best of three and Edmonton's got home ice advantage. So it was completely turned from I literally was shouting out really funeral home, getting the shovel. We're burying the 2025 oilers. I was so confident at three nothing in the first that this series was done. And now you know what I think right now? I think the Oilers are gonna win the Stanley Cup. Damn. See, that's a 180.

Yeah, literally. Yeah. Literally a 180 in like the span of like a couple of hours. And that's so I'm coming off that high. Yeah. But so back to Taylor Swift. At the Panthers game. At the Panthers game.

At Oilers. With the great ones and her boyfriend back to Taylor Swift at the Panthers game at the Panthers game with with the great ones and her boyfriend from the Kansas City Chiefs Travis Kelsey and they're there in the box or whatever and I'm only bringing her up because she's like the eras person and so can you speak a little more to like how you're feeling in this era for this album and this decision to kind of be sexy, preggy. Yeah. I mean, I think so when I wrote ice tea, it was part of the record that just came out in 2024, like the November November album called the act of living, which was all about

like death and cycles and rebirth that I did with Huxley workman. Huxley work, Huxley work, let's getley Workman. Huxley Workman. Let's get back to Hawk. Yeah, absolutely. I wanna ask you about my buddy Hawk. Yes, absolutely. And that was one that didn't quite, it didn't quite go on the record. There were a few things we wanted to do with it still.

So it just, we held it back. And when I was writing it, it was kind of the first song that I was writing after, kind of, you know, I was in another album cycle that I was definitely trying kind of, you know, I was in another album cycle that I was definitely trying to fit into certain places. And I think there's a certain amount of doing that where it's like, you have to try, you have to, you know,

maybe I can get here and if I can get this, like if I can make something that fits in this like radio sphere, maybe I can make enough money to like do the next thing, the next thing. So it's just a matter of like trying like trial and error sustainability practice and I was left feeling very Just kind of void of artistic inspiration and who I was as an artist not in you know I think that's that's bound to happen I think that's how this industry operates is that you know you give your all and then you

Need to recuperate to fill the cup back up. And so my cup wasn't full yet and I felt very, not bitter for sure, but definitely aware of me not wanting to give everything of myself to the quote unquote industry standards of where I want to be. I kind of wanted to carve out my own path and I've recognized that. And so I wrote it about, you know, feeling like I'm, uh, you know, being

aging in the industry from like a young, you know, uh, pretty girl kind of thing, uh, into like my thirties and not wanting to fit like confines that are prescribed kind of randomly sometimes by an industry that is always changing and doesn't really know necessarily what's going on but acts like they do. Yeah, I guess if you're mid thirties, you're considered a geriatric pop star. Yeah, kind of. Yeah.

Does your OBGYN call it a geriatric pregnancy? Not anymore. They've switched that term. Okay. geriatric pregnancy? Not anymore. They've switched that term. Okay, because I have four kids. Yeah. And at least one of my children, I believe the most recent one, my wife was over 35. She might have been like 35. But the OBGYN called it a geriatric pregnancy. And I remember thinking, Oh my goodness, like 35. 35. Yeah, they call it a mature pregnancy now. And honestly, the like my family doctor was like, we kind of bumped it up a few years to so 35. Yeah. They've, they call it a mature pregnancy now. And honestly, the, like my family doctor was like, we kind of bumped it up a few years too. So 35.

Yeah. Cause a lot of women are having babies in their, their mid thirties now because they work on their career first and then, you know, it's not like the, the olden days that you have to bang those out in your early twenties. Exactly. Exactly. So, so when, like now that I am pregnant, I'm kind of, I was able to see this song through a whole new light. It kind of took on a whole new meaning, especially given, you know, just like not that they're like the only beliefs out there, but you know, beliefs that that wriggled themselves in there for sure into like your way of thinking of like, Oh, uh, you're, I, when I see a pregnant person, like,

goodbye, I'll see you in a few years or not at all ever again kind of thing You know and I've had just like so many little comments come in and be like oh This isn't something that I can do and have music persist at the same time, and I just really Didn't want to do that anymore And so the decision to have a family while also like making the commitment to keep going forward was part of this whole charade, I guess, of the sexy, preggy thing. It's like a pivot of sorts, right? And for those who haven't seen these social media posts, et cetera, but like you're in a bikini. Oiled up.

Yeah. Oiled up in a bikini pouring nice tea. It's not beer, right? That's not Great Lakes beer. That's iced tea. That's important. The songs about iced tea. But's not beer, right? That's not Great Lakes beer. That's iced tea. That's important. The songs about iced tea. But you're, you know, you're, you're definitely pregnant and you're definitely bikini clad and it's a, it's a different style. Yeah. It's a little bit like, Oh, look, I'm all dolled up and I'm like doing everything I'm supposed to do, but I'm also doing it the way I'm not supposed to. And it's like, am I doing it right now? It's like my friends, good night sunrise. I don't know if you've come across them. They've been over.

They've been over, of course they have. 100%. If that makes sense. I think I might've saw that same night maybe, maybe that same night I saw altered by mom, I saw good night sunrise. Oh nice. Possibly.

Yeah. I definitely was at a rusty show that. Oh, they played a rusty show. Yeah. And I definitely saw her at a rusty show I'm not sure if you were at the album release in 2019 too but I think they played either that one or one right after that at the horseshoe with us I not sure I was there that that particular night but ran into good night

sunrise a couple times and had them over oh awesome that makes total sense love them been friends for a long time. And I think like that was part of the discourse that they kind of came in on with the stuff was that it'll never be enough. You can put in literally everything that you have to give and it still won't be enough. So might as well take the power into your own hands

and give it everything that you want to give instead of everything that you absolutely have to give. And so that's kind of part of this whole, uh, over the top, uh, visuals that I'm doing on social media. Okay. I'm going to cross promote. There's the Toronto tree. Just put out an amazing new record. And I see I need a haircut in this pic, but I also need a haircut. Are we at real life? In fact, I've, I scheduled a haircut in this pic, but I also need a haircut or we real life. In fact, I've I like the vibe Well, I scheduled a haircut to disappoint you sky with with FOTM Andy the barber for Monday. Oh so But I like it now I I actually was good loft It was Ron Hawkins who said he said to me Mike if you can grow it you should show it

In this basement, he said those words and I had the hair king himself. I had an epiphany Like I was wearing it. I see, cause every day I look at on this day and I put it on blue sky. Okay. And I can see like, oh, if I recorded eight years ago my hair's like George Clooney in ER, right? Like it's really like tight, close to the skull or whatever.

And then Ron said those words to me and I'm like, yeah. Like I have. Got good hair. I have good hair. Thank you. Thank you And I'm like I'm why am I doing so now like when I get a haircut, which I'm gonna get Monday it's really the back and sides that I know what you mean take down but I still keep a Good chunk of hair to grab on top good, especially having that loft. Honestly, it's like people kill for that Well, that's now that I know it makes some people jealous. I need to keep it going. Exactly.

That's why I tell my dad, he's got a crazy hair. It's amazing. Make people jealous. So good night, sunrise. They were over here in February, 2023. Wow. So I'll read the description. I wrote with that time, uh, in this 1200 and third episode of

Toronto mic, Mike chats with David and Vanessa of good, good night, sunrise about their music opening for Bon Jovi at the ACC. The challenges and getting radio play. I'm going to ask you about that in a second. Maybe I'll do it right now. And the missing comma. I guess there was supposed to be a comma good night. There was at a time and they decided to change their name around that time.

I think because a lot of the time with so something like so can and I know this from Just having this conversation with them they so Ken would see that as Because they put if you're an individual songwriter, you're you know, your last name comma first name and so Yeah, exactly. So with sometimes with those like kind of archival Situations it would be like good night, sunrise, but then sometimes sunrise, good night, because they would swap it automatically. Just like, you know, the system would be like, that's the last name. And so they were like, tired of that. And also just like, let's remove the punctuation. Well, they got rid of that comma.

Yeah, they did. They did. They are really cool. They just always speak their mind. We met at Dawson City Music Festival in 2018 and we fell in love. Isn't that funny though that you're like you're based in Toronto and they're based in Toronto and then you're meeting in Dawson City? Oh isn't that always the case? I feel like whenever I go to like especially international stuff like if you're at an international conference or festival like you're hanging out with a lot of Canadians. Well you know now it reminds me Amy Millan has new solo material and she's from Etobicoke Like she went to Etobicoke School of the Arts

I'm here but she lit I know this because my daughter lives in Montreal and Like for a while my daughter lived on the same street as Amy Milan in Montreal But Sam Roberts is forever a Montreal guy Yeah And when Sam Roberts made his Toronto mic debut and was sitting down here, I had secretly arranged for Amy Milan to just, I kept the door ajar and she came in and surprised Sam on the air. But I found it interesting that these two people both live in Montreal, but this, they hadn't seen each other in a long time and they were going to reunite

here in South Etobicoke. Like that's sort of like meeting good night sunrise and Dawson and say, by the way, I'm remembering now this chat because we were talking about the now defunct band mono whales. Oh yeah. So mono whales no more. But mono whales would get airplay on, for example, Indy 88 like crazy. Yeah, they really did it. And it's, it's now I think I said this to altered by mom but mono whales are defunct so there is a can-con rock void for a new see you know what I mean like they is but there also is just fewer and fewer spots you know what I mean like even in D88 I don't know I feel like there's just always kind of like shifts happening I think they brought in their playlist to

a point where they're more likely to fill that spot possibly with I don't know Bruce Colburn or something. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a lot of radio stations. I mean, it's just there's there's not a lot of space for risk. Like they'll just stick an Alanis Morissette song in there that they know people dig rather than a new thing by Skywall. Yeah, which I understand because it's like, yeah, like they're they're also combating like a major shift in the industry. So it's like, yeah, like they're, they're also combating like a major shift in the industry.

So it's like, it is a scary prospect. You can understand, but that does suck when you think about it. That she, cause by the way, today is the 40th, no 30th, let's get the right year. Today is the 30th anniversary of the release of Jagged Little Pill. I did not know that. That's sick. I'm here with the fun facts. That was 30 years ago today. And that album, which was huge,

very, very massive, a massive album. I think Blair Packham was here the other day. We were talking about it. But that there more, I believe in Indie 88, which I'm a fan of Indie 88 cause my buddy's on that station eight days a week. So shout out to Bob Ouellette, who I'm going to see on June 26th. Remind me to Bob Ouellette, who I'm gonna see on June 26th.

Remind me to get back to that date, because I'm gonna invite you to something as well. But I believe with the broadening of this playlist, as they try to go after Boom, for example, and Boom is more likely to, well, Boom's not gonna play a new song by Sky Wallace, because they're all about like 70s, 80s, and 90s, or whatever.

But Indie trying to get a chunk of that pie because boom has been done very well and Indy's had a surge in the ratings with this strategy, but they are more likely to play a for Cancon play a Atlantis Morissette song than they are to go find the next mono whales. Yep. For sure. For sure. Because it like, that was really working and it was, you know, it was really working because the music rocked and because it was like the thing that people really

reacted to and it's great and I love that band. I love the people in it and that it's a funny thing. Yeah, it's not like they're not gonna chase it. Doesn't need the attention. The spins, yeah. There are a lot of really supportive channels on SiriusXM that exclusively do Canadian content like- So I was going to ask you, where in the world of radio, terrestrial or satellite, would

they spin a Sky Wallace? Because you're excellent. Thank you. Like I say this with a tinge of bias, of course, because I like you personally and you've been over. But I'm going to play a couple of songs by Sky Wallace in a minute. I don't know if you know her, but fantastic. Like to my ears, I just love it. Thank you. So where would you hear Sky Wallace in 2025 on any radio station? It's playing pretty regularly, at least once a day on SiriusXM the Vert, which is great. And I've, they've been very supportive in the past. There's been a bunch of, there's been like some radio stations like in Buffalo and Yellowknife and like West coast. There's a couple around Ontario

and the East coast, just kind of like places that I've been able to tour and travel to and people that I've made connections with because we're not, we didn't do like a radio campaign for this song because it's expensive. You know, it's gotta, Can you speak to that a bit? Like, I feel like that's the role of Toronto Mike, just to sort of peel back the curtain. Yeah, definitely. So what does that mean? Cause in a minute I'm going to play the song Ice Tea and then

we are going to talk about FOTM Hawk. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds good. What do you mean it's expensive to promote us on Get Over Salmonella? To do, to get like a radio, what's the term? Sorry, if you have. To get us to get onto their playlist? No, it's like you hire a person who is going around.

An AR person? Yeah, it's like a radio specific. There's a term for it and I can't believe. I'll Google the term while you tell me about it Yeah, exactly. So you're basically hiring someone to do a full campaign specifically to radio and it costs like five Grand a song or something like that a radio

Service motor like yeah service like you're getting it service to radio basically. Okay. So it's someone to go. So these are to me, to me, you're describing gatekeepers, right? Because you as an artist, a fiercely independent musician, you should be able to submit your songs or be at least considered for radio play without that pain. Like that, the sounds like the Sopranos. Yeah. Hey, nice, nice song you got here.

It would be a shame if something happened to it. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's also like because you still can do that. And, you know, the door is still open and it's like, I do agree with you. I do. It's got a tinge of payola to it. Yeah. I mean, it's also like the grant system is such that that money then gets re because it's like, you know, factors from the radio and then you're given a certain amount for radio ads. That is the only part of the I don't know. It's it's it's a tricky thing

because you don't want to be like super critical of the powers that be you're still able to. But I'm also like, yeah, that is the case. If you don't speak up, who will like, yeah, I feel like I think everybody's pretty is the case. You don't speak up who will like, yeah, I feel like I think everybody's pretty on the same page about where the granting system is at because like, you know, things like the so like those radio ads that I mentioned, like everything else covered by factor is covered up to 75%. But then you have to pay the extra 25, which sounds great. But you know, it is like you end up putting in like 10 grand of your own money. Well, how do you make money sky Sky? Like you got a child come in, you're living with a

punk rocker. Yeah. Does he have a day job? He does. And I'm very lucky to, you know, I'm at a point where this last little while, especially with full band touring, like there's, you just break even. That's the best that you can count on. Yeah. If you're you're yeah if you don't bleed out if you don't if it doesn't cost you too much money you can afford to do what you love which is perform your art. Yeah for sure and like things like being on Sirius XM helped with things like rent so I'm able to kind of subsist but it's also like you know I want to I have my grants in for the next record that's going to be you'm gonna undertake early 2026, I guess, once I am like healed from being split in half.

And I just wanna like kind of keep that going. What's the due date by the way? August 11th. That's coming. Yeah, just under two months. Okay. Yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, that's just like,

I think there are certain things that I'm tweaking to be a bit more sustainable Including like more grass roots style touring because I want to be able to be a bit more fluid Adaptable do you do that thing where a fan can hire you to play their like backyard? Absolutely. In fact, that's kind of how I started was the house house show circuit and I do a lot of things solo That's how I used to do things is I do a lot of solo shows to supplement doing everything else and actually that's how I broke into like a European market. That's how I just go there and I do all the like, you know, the recon solo when it doesn't have to like cost me an arm and a leg and I actually could make money.

So I'm looking forward to kind of exploring the grassroots side of things because it is a really good connective tissue with the audience as well. You know, you're actually like interacting heart to heart with people in a space who care about the music and want to be there. No, absolutely. So what I want to do is I'm itching to play Ice Tea. Play it! And then I want to talk Hawk with you. But first, I need to invite you and the listeners and Mick. Okay. But wait, do you know the gender of this baby? Yeah. It's a little boy. Like have you, cause I've been there. It's getting nice memories thinking about it. Like, did you name this baby yet? We want to see him

first, you know? Yeah. But we've got a list going. Is one of those names Mike? Toronto Mike, actually. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? I would be so honored. Okay. So we're going to kick this out, but I want you to mark this date. Okay, Skye? Okay. June 26th. That's only a couple of weeks from now. It's a Thursday. So less than two weeks, I suppose. But that Thursday night from 6 to 9 p.m., we're having TMLX 19. This is the 19th Toronto Mic'd listener experience. And we're all going to collect, like listeners, yourself, FOTMs, we're going to collect at Great Lakes Brewery, which is 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard down the street from the Costco in South Etobicoke here, not

far from like Royal York and Queensway. So we're going to meet at Great Lakes Brewery 6 PM, June 26th. Not only now, Sky, I'm guessing you're not drinking a lot of beer right now. Not drinking a lot of beer. Okay. Is Mick drinking any beer? Sure. Yeah. Okay. So I'm sending you home a fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. Mick will thank me at TMLX 19 because you're going to get your first beer on the house on at TMLX 19 as well. So Great Lakes will buy you a beer unless you're seven months pregnant. You know, you can have a little bit, you know, yeah, exactly. It's all about sips here and there is fine. It's not going gonna do anything. Okay. But I'm not a doctor.

So no one does, no one take my advice, please. Please. I don't want a Lauren Honigman calling me after this episode. Mike, you can't give medical advice to pregnant women on Toronto Mike. Okay. But Palma pasta is gonna feed everybody. So come hungry. You can eat some delicious Italian food.

Check out what they got at Palma pasta. And I told you earlier, I do have a large lasagna for you in my freezer. Yeah. So you got all these instructions. I'll give you the rest of the gifts later, but let's get to some iced tea.

I like that sound right there. This has taken me back to the nineties a little here. 90s a little here. I want you, I want you, don't you wanna take a sip of me? Ice tea, please leave, drink up, all the satisfaction Ice tea, please leave, break up, ice is flying Remind me, say don't forget That switch with the beast of burden Really, toxic Can never make it in this business, man Climbing the rock, trying the doubt

Counting the heat just to listen Days are gone, on your own How long has your heart been bitter? Sun glare, sitting on a long chair Baby sit before you dry out My dear, if you could Honestly, please leave You can give it up

Time to lose it Honestly, please leave You can never make it Is that you? Oh, God. Who's playing that? That's Ryan Dahl. Of Limb Lifter, Age of Electric, et cetera. Where's my remote control?

Exactly. I like Limb Lifter, too. Yeah. What a band. So cool. I'm getting any younger. Ice tea, freeze me, drink up before it all goes under. See, now I'm thirsty. Excellent.

I just realized it's iced tea. Yeah. I just realized what you're doing here, Sky. It's like all the pieces are now fitting together in my head in real time. I'm going to share with you. Okay. Yes. Sloan.

Are you a Sloan fan? Big Sloan fan. Good for you. I love Sloan too. Yeah. Sloan just recently cashed in a certain iced tea product. Is using Money City Maniacs in a big campaign. Coca-Cola owns this. It's called Fuse. Fuse. Okay. Yeah. I think that's where the money is for artists like you. You know, this is a nice, this song, Ice Tea, I need to hear this. Who's the rival for Fuse?

It'll be like Sky versus Sloan in the Ice Tea Wars of the summer of 2025. I mean, there was a brand, I don't know if it's still in production, but there was a brand from, I think like Manitoba and Saskatchewan that a few people told me about, including Ryan Dahl, who was just playing on that track. Apparently he was like hopped up on this particular brand of iced tea when he was

like writing a bunch of the Lindlister early stuff. It's called good. Oh frig, I might have to look it up on my phone. No, I'll do it. I'll look it up here in a minute. Tell me about how you got hooked up with Hawksley Workman. It was wild, because I'm such a fan of his and we've kind of had, we've had some interactions just like online and like I sometimes play with his longtime drummer for live stuff, Brad Kilpatrick.

So we kind of had some, you know, mutuals and he reached out randomly just in my DMs and was like, hey, I see you do co-writes and I like your stuff. He just slid into your DM Yeah, we followed each other and I was like, yeah, let me please let me absolutely Let me check my calendar Huxley workman to see if I can write with you. So I went up to his spot and Peterborough and it was just like, we ended up writing just a crazy song and then we just got together again.

We wrote another crazy song. We ended up writing like four songs. And I was like, can you like, let's do this. Can you produce my new record that these songs would be on? He's like, no, you should do it. And I was like, no, let's do it together. And he was like, sounds good. So we did the whole record together.

Yeah. Hawk knows this, but he's one of my all time favorite FOTMs. Like we just hit it off instantly. I've been trying to get him back in the basement ever since. We did a bunch of zooms, but Hawk get your ass over here next time you're in town. Okay. But yeah.

And we'll talk about ICT when I get them on. I'm going to name some popular brands. Okay. And I don't know if, because here's a popular brands and I need to do further research. Lipton Lipton, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Arizona. Pure leaf, gold peak, Snapple, Honest Tea. And then there's one called good drink. But none of those are ringing a bell for you is it no no I mean it's it's specific apparently to the Canadian prairies so it's um it's not good drink you're telling me no it's not it's um it's not good drink because for iced tea brands that are well-liked in Manitoba consider good drink and good

host good host good okay good host, good host. They're both brewed and bottled in Canada. If they're not the same, I think we need to get Lauren Honigman involved and there might be a trademark suit. Okay, so I can see like the good host is like the, it was like the powdered one that you'd always get, you know, it was like the-

Oh, I see it on Amazon right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's out of stock, unfortunately. That's how popular it is. Okay, here it is. So yeah, so- Yeah, good host. That's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's out of stock, unfortunately. That's how popular it is. Okay, here it is. So, yeah, so. Yeah, good host.

That's the one. Okay, original iced tea. By the way, iced tea. They're all saying iced tea, but you go with iced tea. And it's iced tea, yeah. Cause iced tea's the rapper. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know. I just felt like the irreverent, like, I know it's iced tea. Nowadays, that's the only ice I fuck with. I like that. You should have put that in the, the only podcast I fuck with I like that you should have put that in the the only podcast I fuck with. Yeah, no, Mike exactly You you heard it here first? Want it so you're gonna be in

Etobicoke June 26 if I have my way. Yes, I can't control where yes, but I just want to show here's another name I believe that same night where I met all these bands. I feel like I met Maybe not. Maybe it's a different Cassie. Actually, I think there's there might be multiple. Oh, that was Cassie De Silva Yes, yeah, not Cassie Noble. No Cassie Noble also amazing Okay, because your plane is in Whitby on June 25th. Yeah. Shout out to uncle Rob and JC there So you know, you know, I So you know, he's my actual uncle. Yes. Yeah, he was there like a big he's a big sky. Every time I see you, he's there.

He's there. But he also has, you know, he's at every Good Night Sunrise show, every lowest at the low show. Like he he is just. But you know, I lost here's where I lost touch with lots of people like Uncle Rob. When I abandoned the app formerly known as Twitter. So I walked away not that long ago but I walked away and I'm like I'm just doing my what I used to do on X I now do on blue sky. But there were people like Uncle Rob that I would follow and interact with

on X that I that I don't that aren't at they aren't using blue sky. So he's a good example Uncle Rob of a person that I did feel like there was some engagement and he was part of my sphere. Yeah. Uncle Rob. I know he's on threads, but maybe, but I hated threads and I have logged into threads in a long time. Yeah. It's still the metaverse, which is not great. And I love blue sky for that reason. Maybe cause this, so that, that show on the 25th in Whippy is Uncle Rob's backyard and built a stage they get like they get like a hundred or something people out and like there's a bar there's like you know what it's the venue that is listed is Phillips Fire Pit. Hell yeah. So that is his last name

Phillips. Rob Phillips absolutely. Oh my god. That's my aunt. Yeah, it's pretty good. And that's their opening for the season and their band. Uncle Rob's backyard. It's opening. With Cassie Noble. Yeah. Not to be confused with Cassie DeSilver who I thought was great that night.

Amazing. Yeah. I love her. Can I get these Cassie's over together? Oh, absolutely. I don't know actually. I don't know. July 11th though, people can see you

at the Four Winds Music Fest. That's right up in Durham, Ontario. Riverstone Retreat and other bands there, the Sadies for example, are playing that show. I'm gonna be doing a little guest appearance at the Strombelis set the next day as well. You know, maybe we'll do a song or two. Okay, you're gonna do Ice Tea?

Well, I'm gonna do it during my set, that's for sure. Not the Strombelis set. I don't know why I said that well, I'm going to do it during my set. That's for sure. Not the storm. I don't know why I said that. Of course you're going to come in dear, but I love those guys. You know, in, in iced tea, you shout out beast of burden. That's because you're married to Mick Jagger. Exactly. Exactly. I just wanted to like, it was an Easter egg. No, I enjoy it very much. Now I'm going to take this off in a sideways and then I'm going to, uh, well, maybe, maybe I'll do this right now. Okay. So have you ever been to a Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game, not hockey

baseball game at Christie Pitts? Can't believe I haven't. Okay. Well, I'm telling you now I'm giving you a book. Okay. This book right here is yours, Sky Wallace. It's the history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. And I urge you to check out the action at Christie Pitts

because it's a free event, no ticket required, high caliber baseball. There's a woman from Japan named Ayami Sato who's been pitching for the Leafs this year. And the crowd goes nuts when she goes to the mound to pitch. And I'm telling you, grab yourself a hot dog. Mick can grab a Leafs logger and it's the best value in this city. Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. Yeah, I will be. I can't believe I've gone because I was a base player growing or base

player, not baseball player. Yeah, it was a baseball player.. Did you play? I was a pitcher for a while I really like third base and shortstop like this is baseball not softball. It was softball So I did the underhand when I was pitching but then I was kind of doing so anyway, it was a long time Hey, what could have been you could have been an Olympian? I could have been an Olympian yesterday Tom Harrington was over for his exit interview and he talked about covering, uh Soft woman softball at the 96 Olympics in Atlanta. Tight. Like that was a chat yesterday.

And the day before, I got to say happy birthday to Al Grego. He's 50 years old today. This guy, Al Grego, he's a cuddly guy. He's got a great beard. He's 50 today. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Al Grego from Sky Wallace. That's amazing.

Big happy birthday. Two days ago, Al was in this basement kicking out jams related to season eight of Yes, We Are Open. And these are inspiring stories Al collected. He went to Regina, Saskatchewan. Have you ever been to Regina,

Saskatchewan? Oh, lots. I love that town. I get mixed reviews from people I have because I ask that of all the musicians and sometimes they're you know, they're praising the city. Sometimes they're not. I love Regina.

I love people from Regina. I have a really good friend group there, like just lots of pals who do cool music stuff. My drummer, Chris is from there. Shout out to Chris Demus from Regina, Saskatchewan. Amazing. Yeah. So Al went there to interview small business owners

to collect their inspiring stories. And then this can all be found in season eight of Yes We Are Open. Got it? Got it. Got it. A podcast I want to tell you about is Building Toronto Skyline because we recorded two new episodes this morning.

We got like what I call real talk on the condo industry. Do you live in a condominium, Skywall? I do not. Okay, well, this, the development, this industry, it's essentially frozen right now. Yeah. Like we're talking to people on the inside who have been in the industry for, the development, this industry, it's essentially frozen right now. We're talking to people on the inside who have been in the industry for decades. And this, I would call this swing from red hot market

to ice cold market, so suddenly is unprecedented in this city. And it's wild when you dig in and talk about what's happening with the condominium development industry and sales of new condos in the city of Toronto. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, surprise, surprise, nobody wants to pay a million dollars for a condo.

But there is a lot of inventory, a lot of inventory for non-new, I guess what do you call that, used? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we talk about this, the pros and cons, and we're at with everything. Building Toronto's skyline with Nick Ienis. And last but not least, I wanted to remind you about

recyclemyelectronics.ca because sky if you have old cables, old electronics, old devices, God, don't throw it in the garbage. Okay, those chemicals end up in our landfill. Go to recyclemyelectronics.ca put in your postal code and find out where you can drop it off to be properly recycled. That's so smart. Thank you. Although I'm just reading the script. Actually, I memorized that script years ago. So the record shall not read anything.

Yeah. But I am going to play a song that is by you. It's a live version of a song I quite like. And I'm going to ask you about it. And then I'm going gonna pair it with a song that I absolutely loved in the 90s, and we'll talk about that. Are you ready for this doubleheader? Here we go. Yes, please. ["Doubleheader"]

We'll see if you recognize your own music. How are you? Have you been, it's been a long time. Did we lose touch? You're struggling You're buckling under the weight of it all I've tried a million times to reach out But I'm struggling myself Singing please, where did I go wrong? I turn them into stone, I'm talking to myself

Unraveling my mind, and falling far behind But everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine Everything is fine I'm alive Just seems like time is slipping through my hands And how are you? What should we do? Did you lose yourself? When did we lose ourself like this?

I've tried a million times to look in The lights on when I'm gone Listen to me Where did I go wrong? Sitting in self-details And turn them into stone I'm talking to myself I'm rambling my mind Falling far behind

And everything is fine, everything is fine Everything will be fine, everything will be fine Everything will be fine, everything will be fine Everything will be fine, everything will be fine. Singing please, where did I go wrong? Sifting self-details and turning them into stone Talking to myself, unraveling my mind But everything is fine

Singing please Everything is fine Singing peace And where did I go wrong? Sifting separate details And turn them into stone I'm talking to myself I'm unraveling my mind, falling far behind. But everything is fine, everything is fine, everything is fine. I feel like I should applaud.

Aww! It sounds to my ears. I can only speak for my ears. I don't know how other ears receive things. I think that sounds amazing. Thank you. It's been a while since I've heard that actually. That was kind of a treat.

And it's good in the headphones, right? Yeah, it is. So tell us like what that was. Everything is fine. Yeah, so that was a song that came out, I think it was in like March, 2022, that the song itself came out. And then I did like, it was just like a content thing. My friend Cormac O'Brien, who was at

Six Shooter Records, which was my label at the time, they had me over and did just like a bunch of videos that was, it was just supposed to be for content, but then they were like, Hey, this recording of the audio is really good. Like that's live on the floor. That's live on the floor and it sounds so pristine. Yeah, it was amazing. And it was just like, you know, we didn't do anything super special or anything. It was just like a little thing. Like it's naked.

Yeah, totally. Right? But just, you know, no AI required. Yeah, yeah. There's no auto-tuning required. Like that's just Sky Wallace with a guitar. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

And it was kind of like, you know, brings me back to my roots a little bit because I started as as a an acoustic solo artist and it's something that I still go back to time and time again and plan to again in the future. So like it was really it was apropos. And so we released that one as a live version, a nice little acoustic live version. Because I know some listeners of Toronto Mike aren't sure who Sky Wallace is, and they probably haven't heard a lot of Sky Wallace. So remind me again, the new album is called Ice Tea.

The new album is called Ice Tea. The single is called Ice Tea, but the one that came out November 1st of last year, 2024, is called The Act of Living. Act of Living. Okay. Yeah. And this is everything is fine. So can I just play an old song that's not yours and just ask you like what you think?

And will you cover it for me? Oh my god, maybe bring a guitar to tmlx19. Yes. Yes. So Here we go I'm just calling to say hello How's the weather? How's my father? Am I lonely? Heavens no Mother, mother, are you listening? Just a phone call to ease your mind Life is perfect, never better

Distance making the heart grow blind When you sent me off to see the world Were you scared that I might get hurt? Would you send me off to see the world? Were you scared that I might get hurt? Would I try a little tobacco? Would I keep on hiking up my skirt? I'm hungry, I'm dirty, I'm losing my mind, everything's fine. I'm freezing, I'm starving, I'm bleeding to death, everything's fine. Yeah, I'm working. Do you know this song? It sounds familiar, but I don't know it and I don't know who does it.

Because you're a puppy. Okay, so this is from 96. This is Tracy Bonham and it's called Mother Mother and 102.1 the Edge would play this song and I just loved it. It's sick. Isn't it good? I love it. I can't name another Tracy Bonham song

to be very honest with you, but this was all over the radio and I instantly like just fell in love with this banger here. What is going on with her voice? It's so sick. But I'm pairing it with you because she's got this part, everything's fine. Yeah.

Everything's fine. Yeah. And then I'm thinking we pair it with your song. Is there a way of like having a mashup happen? Interlock them or whatever. So you could introduce like, you could do some Tracy Bonham mother mother when you're doing Everything is Fine Live.

That's a good idea. I'll leave that with you creative geniuses or whatever. But I just wondered like a modern alt rock artist like yourself, how this sounds to your ears because I... I'm freezing, I'm starving, I'm bleeding to death, everything's fine I miss you, I love you There you go. I just think you would kill it that song. Oh my god. I love it. And you know, like you said, it does have a very like 90s quality, but it also really pertains to like what's relevant like as far as like especially the vocal delivery that's something I'll say like I was listening to like Wolf Alice the other day and

they have this new song that really toes the line between this like gorgeous pristine vocal delivery and this like wretched one that she just like starts tearing her vocal cords apart or like you know just like the the turnstile effect that's out there right now, you know, there's this really beautiful third through line of like gorgeous meats, uh, just like ragged that I really like. And I think that something like that's a place I like to occupy for sure. So like that's very inspiring to me.

That's why you're in your sexy, preggy, iced tea chug era. Amazing. So I love this guy. I just think you need to come more often than every six years. I agree. I agree. And gosh, you got married. So congrats on that. Thank you.

You are with child. Yes. So that's coming this summer. Yeah, coming this summer. That's exciting. Can you get tickets to go to uncle Rob's backyard? Sure can. I mean, it's, uh, it's open to the public. So it's open. Pass around a hat or something. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I just, I'm trying to only go to things I can bike to. Yeah, that's legit. So I can bike to Danforth

music hall. Yep. It would take me a long time to bike to a Whitby and back. Yeah, that's legit. So I can bike to Danforth music hall. Yep. It would take me a long time to bike to Whitby and back. Yeah, that's yeah. That's so far. But that sounds amazing. So tell uncle Rob to buy a place in, I don't know, South Etobicoke. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like yeah, he'll just be like, okay, yeah, I'll do that. So thanks for visiting sky wall. Thank you for having me. I love chatting with you. Well, we're going to do this again. Yes, please. In six years time. Yes.

No, no, no. Let's cut it in half. Everything is fine. Just keep repeating that to yourself. Don't look at the world at large. Here's the trick. You got to go hyper local at this time. You do.

Yeah, it's micro. You got to look at it. If you look out, which you know, you'll say, oh, what happened in Iran last night? What's happening with Israel? What's happening with Israel? What's happening in the Ukraine? What's happening in Russia?

What's happening in LA, in the United States of America? Like if you look at that, it would be easy to like just instinctively like just dig a hole and like hide in it for four years or something like that and see if things improve. But you're creating beautiful art, you're gonna create a beautiful baby. You've got created a beautiful life with punk rock Mick.

Yeah. And you've got to look community. Yeah. You got to find hope where it exists in order to persist and persist. We must all in order to, you know, access a future, make a song about that. Yeah. Amen. access a future.

Make a song about that. Yeah. Amen. And that, that brings us to the end of our 1,711th show. 7-Eleven. My goodness. Go to torontomike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. Much love to all who made this possible. Again, that's Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta.

Guys get the TMLX 19 on June 26th. No ticket required there either. Just show up. Toronto Maple Leafs baseball, Monaris, RecycleMyElectronics.ca, Building Toronto Skyline, and Ridley Funeral Home. See you all next week. Oh yeah, you got your measuring tape. Next week, my guest will be Samantha Marden.

So tell me about Samantha real quick here. What a voice. What a voice. I revere her. Yeah, I don't know if you're here at 11 in the morning. You could do it. And Milan, Milan did to Sam Roberts. I don't know. She knows who I am, but I sure know who she is. She's amazing. I'm excited now. Okay. 11 AM on Monday on the Monday on the live stream, live.torontomike.com. See you all then. Actually, I'm unmuting you. I want to see if you know these Easter eggs Rob Prusped in. Do you know this song? Yeah.

What is this song? Rosie and Grey. Lowest of the low. No, this part. Oh, this song? Yeah. What is this song? Rosie and Grey, lowest of the low. No, this part. Oh, this part. Yeah, we left Rosie and Grey. Oh. So that's the Friendly Giant theme. Do you know this song?

This is the pizza nova. I was gonna say, is it the pizza? Little Italian flavor. You got it. Alfie's Apricots. Okay. Do you know this? Rings a bell. This is romantic traffic by Spoons. Oh, okay. Oh, I've met a few

members of Spoons. Sandy Horne. Yeah, that's the one. Okay, do you know this song? That's shadowy men on a shadowy planet having an average weekend. It's a theme for the kids in the hall. Oh, that makes sense. And now we're back to Rosie and Grave. Our boys love you.