Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Songs We Didn't Know Were Covers: Toronto Mike'd #616

Episode Date: April 10, 2020

Mike kicks out songs they didn't know were covers with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon, but they kick out the originals.

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I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me as they do every Friday throughout the pandemic, Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Yes. Yes. Welcome. Hello.

Thank you for having us. Hello. Hello. Hello. Should I add Ian's service to the intro? What do you say? No. No.

It's not his No. It's not his time. It's not his time. Three gentlemen with three-letter first names. Stu, Cam, and Ian. Welcome, guys. How are you doing this week? But only one of us has our name in the alphabet

in order, as you learned off-air last week. Which blew my mind, by the way. In case you're following along at home, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, ready for this, S, T, U. Cam, did you know that?

Did you know that Stu was in the alphabet? I guess. Wow, way to be unimpressed. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, good. I to be unimpressed. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, good. I mean, that's a personal achievement. If your name was spelled out in the alphabet,

you know, there's not very many opportunities to spell other names in the alphabet. No, but Jason is a name that's in the months of the year, like if you did, right? I can think of a rock band, the half of their name is in it. And I guess it's Death Leopard? D-E-F?

Oh yeah, and also a great Rush song, X-Y-Z, or X-Y-Z if you will. Yeah? No, it was Y-Y-Z. I really fucked that up. Okay, on a technical note. that's usually me that does that before we find out if everybody is still uh symptom free and feeling good i need

to tell everyone on a technical note this is our first episode where i think i got the audio right like you're being you're coming at me through a trRS cable, which means you should sound pretty damn good. Last week, you came at me through Bluetooth, and that Bluetooth sucked, and it really made you sound less good. So I think you're going to sound great. Starting with you, Cam, how are you holding up this week? How are you feeling? Yeah, it was a good week. Yeah, things are getting a bit back to normal at work. We were quite busy at Twitter.

You may have seen us. Did a lot of PR this week. We were talking some video games and what Canadians are talking about on Twitter. During the pandemic, my colleague Andrea was on Global News with Jennifer Valentine. You may have seen me tweeting about. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, no, things are starting to feel semi-normal as much as they can. How come you don't do that?

Like, why aren't you the one talking to Jennifer Valentine? I'm out there a little bit. Actually, you might have caught me in a Canadian press article about baking, of all things. Did you see me tweeting about that? I did. Just a lot of Canadians are talking about baking of all things. Did you see me tweeting about that? I did. A lot of Canadians are talking about baking on Twitter. So I was chatting with Gregory Strong, I believe, who I think might

be an FOTM. No, Gregory Strong is absolutely an FOTM. Okay, I thought so. So it all comes full circle. But yeah. Are there other FOTMs you want me to reach out to to see if they'll talk to you uh let's let's talk about that offline yeah we'll share some emails and whatnot well thank you cam great update glad things are cooking at twitter stew the beard is coming in nicely

oh man i gotta tell you this is uh I've got quite the quarantine playoff beard going right now. It's gotten past the itchy phase, so we're kind of in the homestretch now, heading in a direction that is suitable for a pandemic. But since we last spoke, a lot has happened to me.

Talk to me. I watched two nights of audience-less WrestleMania, which was bizarre. There was the holiday Passover. I don't know if you know Moses and Perry Lefkoe and all that. You had a Perry Lefkoe. First of all, I worked very closely with Ralph Ben-Murgy. So I was a rabbi.

Yeah, right. Not that kind of rabbi. But yeah, so Passover. So I had a family-less, contact-less Passover meal. Is it called a Seder? I was just trying to be nice to the white bread that I'm talking to here. The doyum. Yes. I was just trying to be nice to the white bread that I'm talking to here. The table was a virtual table of Zoom. So much like I'm looking at Mike and Cam and the incomparable Ian here on how we're recording this,

I replaced that with my mom and my sister and her kids and my other sister and her kids. And that's what was going on i did something similar yeah do you have you did did you eat the appropriate food i went to the i went off my island to the loblaws you know this is like water world now it's without the water but you know i go to the loblaws there's like cops you know you gotta line up social distance line up around the parking lot to get in which is fine you get in there there's nothing cops, you know, you got to line up, social distance, line up around the parking lot to get in, which is fine. You get in there. There's nothing like anything you want.

You got to settle for something else, including including matzah. And since your viewers can't see what we're doing, I'm not going to get up and go get it. But they had no matzah. The only matzah they had left was gluten free matzah, which nobody wanted. I had to buy that because I just needed to have something. Can I ask? You're the only one eating this meal, right? Correct.

Okay. Tell us, idiots, us Gentiles, what is matzah? Basically, there's this movie with Charlton Heston that you can watch. There's also a couple of remakes along the way. I think there was an animated one a few years ago, maybe more than a few years ago now. But anyway, basically, we're running away through Egypt, the whole Ten Commandments story.

We didn't have enough time to make bread, so they just made the unleavened bread. And that bread actually ended up lasting and making them not starve and die on their journey because uh oh somehow it worked out so that's why we eat unleavened that's why we don't eat bread for the week and we eat this unleavened bread to sort of symbolize you know this is what our brothers and sisters had to survive on i have a dumb question isn't that called manna or is manna something else it depends what it depends what book you're reading.

So we're talking about my book. That's what it says in there. The Torah. I mean, listen, I don't read the book, to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest. Complete transparency here. But I have seen the Charlton Heston movie very many times. My parents used to make me watch it.

The Parting of the Red Sea. Is that true? Yeah? Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, I've eaten some matzah in my time, even though, you know, I'm more of the Gentile persuasion. A Gentile giant. Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's been to the, you know, some bar mitzvahs and stuff. So I'm totally down. Yeah, we used to, the Gordons once in a while would buy it. I remember like me and my sister would ask my mom to buy it because stuff. So I'm totally down. The Gordons, once in a while, would buy it.

I remember me and my sister would ask my mom to buy it because we just... It's like a cracker. You needed something to throw at the neighborhood kids? Stu, I have a question because I was a witness to a conversation between Mark Breslin, the Yuck Yucks founder, and Ralph Ben-Murgy

for Not That Kind of Rabbi. This conversation happened yesterday. By the way, fun fact, later today, I'm going to be witness to a conversation between Ben-Murgy and Stephen Page. Whoa. So that's a fun fact. Now, I was listening to this convo, and Mark was talking about,

Mark Breslin was talking about how he's Jewish culturally, but not religiously. Some people like the cultural aspects of Judaism. That's, that's basically the modern kind of way that most people, that's like, will you eat bacon? I did eat bacon for many years.

I stopped eating bacon, ironically, but, but for religious reasons, I like to keep it mysterious. You know, some would call it religious reasons some would call it like just being like a fucked up person that just quits things uh bacon was on the list

one year and i just quit it and now you've quit shaving yes and i can't quit you guys the best part about my day is knowing that in six more sleeps we'll be back again i'm on it i'm so ecstatic that you sound so good and I hope I pressed record. Let me just double check. Did I press record? Yes! It's like Barry White over here. This is fantastic. Well, speaking of Barry White, let's just see how Ian's doing and let's remind

people. Ian Service, maybe I'll let Ian do this. Ian, how are you professionally tied to the TMDS productions, including Toronto Mic'd? And then tell us how you're doing. So you create these audio files

and you put them on the internet on my servers. Wow. And then when people go to download it, they're hitting up my server and I've got a nice caching system set up so that we can spit out millions upon millions of MP3 files all at the same time. Wow.

Oh, I get it now. Servers. And what's your, what is your, uh, I can't serve you food right now. Like at the end when we, That's not his, that's not his government name. Service. Right.

Your name is service. It is. Is that your real name? Cause Stone is not your real name, right? All right, Ian, Stone? Service, actually. All right, Ian, how's the family holding up there in Guelph? They're good. The kids get a little batty by the evening,

so that's always entertaining. But overall, they're just bored now. But in fact, I finished two of my films in Guelph. Wow. That is a mildly fun fact oh he's got a guelph shirt so i'll read it it's a standing apart against covid19 oh did you get that made because you had to leave did you get it ordered on the internet or did you go somewhere no a guy in town made them and i went out and bought one paper rode my bike over and picked it up you didn't give him a handshake or anything? No, no.

He left it outside for me. I like, I respect the fact that Guelph is a pretty big city, but it's still small enough that you could just be like, oh, a guy in town made it. And like, you know, that's someone in Guelph. A guy in town. I can't say a guy in town here, can I? I don't think it qualifies.

Why not? Yeah? No, you can't do that. But in Guelph guelph i like that you know they have their own media like i often hear about some radio star in guelph and like oh there's a station in guelph and i don't get the station i've never heard of this station i've never heard of this person but they're like talking about this person like it's marilyn dennis or something like that like they have their own yeah we have a chorus station. I think there's an AM and an FM. So yeah. That's a big deal. Are Roger and Rick there as well?

No. Jamar there? Jamar. These are all great FOTNs. By the way, before we proceed, I must thank Cam Gordon and give him credit for something. So I don't know if you heard of this Jesse Brown thing called Canada Land,

this little indie project he's got going on. Have you guys heard of Canada Land?esse brown thing called canada land this uh little indie project he's got going on have you guys heard of canada land sure of course stew has i've done i've done interviews with canada land if you google cam is that right yeah you'll find my name pops up in there on occasion when asked some on some topics oh wow uh stew you've never heard of canada land well i've not been in that publication but i have been in Chickadee and Owl. I subscribe to both. I love Chickadee. And I used to watch Owl TV. Do you remember Owl TV? Yeah, good theme song. It wasn't Lucy from that. Was Lucy from Degrassi on Owl TV first? Yes, because she was also in the Kish video for She's a Flirt,

Let's Do It. Yeah, that's right. There's actually a really good article in Toronto Life about Lucy. I don't know if you read this a couple years ago. I did. She had hippie parents. Her real name is

Anais Granovski. So I think there's a jewish dad possibly a passover celebrator right jewish dad and uh the mom uh maybe african-american i can't remember now but they were hippies and it was very interesting uh for sure anais granovsky but she's amazing in that she was on owl tv which was just referenced by stew Then she went on to Degrassi, of course. She got hit by the drunk driver. Oh, it was Wheels. That's right. Yeah. She went blind, I believe.

And that was in Schools Out. That was the famous when Joey Jeremiah... Joey F'd Caitlyn? Tessa. F'd Tessa. Right. He was F'd Caitlyn and Tessa tessa you can say it because they actually drop an f-bomb in that show and it blew my mind is he like oh my god fucking tessa right and you

started this episode with a joey jeremiah hat but you've changed it okay where was i going to this oh yeah then she appears in after degrassi she's in uh she a flirt. Let's do it with Kish. Kish was a very recent guest on Toronto Mike. But I've got to get back to Cam and give him props. Because Canada Land did this whole pick your quarantine house. And they had the Canadian media people in each house. And you have to pick the house you want to be quarantined in. And Cam DMs me and says, there should be one for FOTMs. And at first, I'm like, I can't do that.

Some fan has to do that. I was like, can we get Stu to do that? And then I just did it because who else knows the FOTMs better than me? So it was a pretty big hit. Cam, great idea. Yeah, I feel like there was maybe a dozen or so FOTMs engaged. I saw Biff Naked was commenting and Diane Swain, Mike Richards, I think, or people were trying to tag Mike Richards. Mike Richards! He wasn't in a house.

And I got super fans upset at me that I would, like a lot of, you know, hundreds of famous Canadians were not in a house because you only have so many FOTMs you can stick in there. Like big names, like Bob McKenzie was not in a house, but these people were upset that Mike Richards was left on the cutting room floor. But even Stu Stone didn't make a house, I didn't think. Now, when Maclean's Magazine did their 100th anniversary edition, and they included the 100 most influential Canadians in the history of their publication, they didn't leave me on the cutting room floor.

But that's okay, Mike. Is that true? It is true. Damn it. Wait, elaborate. That is true, I think. Wait, just so again, what was it called?

Oh, you've heard of it? McLean's Magazine? Yeah. I think St. Joseph Media is currently running that show. Yeah, they ran magazines yeah i think saint joseph media is currently uh running that show yeah they had they ran uh 100 the 100 most influential canadians on their 100th anniversary edition of their magazine okay uh and i was on that list cam is that true there's that yeah there's actually a

link if you go to uh cover of the to... I was on the cover of the magazine. My picture is on the cover of the magazine. Okay, here's kind of the mark of notability. If you go to Stu's Wikipedia page, which it is out there, there's a link to this article, so it's 100% true. I'm awfully impressed. Next time you make a fucking quarantine house

in the next pandemic, don't worry about it. I'm good. Stu, I think I know that journalist, Megan Campbell. I feel like she writes about tech now. Oh, I thought you were going to say Megan Fitzpatrick. I know her, too. I wish

the people could see Stu right now. Okay, Cam, I'm all choked up, excited. Hold on a minute. Before we get this is going to be a really long show so we got to go we're going to dive in but please Mike you're giving Cam all this praise thanking him for this

quarantine house who is the reason single handedly I would say physically single handedly you because you only have one hand the other hand is in a cast but who is the one that helped make this show sound the way that it does if it sounds good yeah my apologies mr stone okay me i took up four of my quarantine days were spent with you

fixing this okay so let me give a little context so friday's episode with stew and cam and ian uh drops and i listened back because i wanted to hear how it was made. Wait, did we officially add the and Ian into the title now? That's kind of cool. Yeah, like, you know, was this... Were you going to tell us about this? How was that going to work? And no one knows this except us people here, us four or whatever, but

like, Ian is surrounded by Pink Panther... What's that? Installation. Like, he's surrounded by pink fiberglass oh he looks like he's in like the movie saw like he's in one of those like rooms right by the way my new cast is fiberglass so it all comes he looks like he's uh he's he looks like he's in one of those uh themed rooms at the mad hatter so friday's episode drops and again the content is you know off the hizzle like it's amazing but i'm not happy with how it sounds like it's upsetting me

now so i start doing more trial and error like where is the weak link in this chain and i very quickly uh surmise that the weak link is the bluetooth connectivity so how do i get it so that they can still hear the music? Because you have to hear my music or the episode doesn't work, but I need your voice to come at me through a different channel. So Stu was kind enough to, yeah, to Zoom with me and we did a lot of tests and he had this idea, I believe it was Stu's idea, that, you know, in Zoom you can change your microphone. So my microphone would be, for example, the Bluetooth. So you guys hear me through Bluetooth.

But the speaker that I record is going to be the TRRS cable. And here we are. Thank you, Stu. So thank you, Ian, at RomePhone.ca for hosting this MP3 file. Thank you, Cam, for the idea, for stealing whatever the hell canada land was doing it was really fun to do an fotm quarantine house and thank you stew for helping me make this sound this good now oh the clap didn't quite come through there stew but i saw it which is what matters so cam you're the smart one in the room. Please tell us, what are we kicking out today?

Sorry, Stu and I are just making faces because we're like 10-year-olds at each other. So yeah, today, this is something we, I believe we touched on this last episode and Stu had a great idea. Well, that's a whole episode and we're going to blow it out. So these are songs songs popular songs you didn't realize were covers and interesting twist here we're actually gonna play the original song

not the more popularized cover so i i think it'll open us up to banter about the covers and the various iterations and right. Exactly. This is a, I think this is a great topic. And I know for me, I actually Googled this topic and these, the, my five choices are songs that as of last Friday, I didn't even know were covers.

So this is all fresh terrain. When I will play the song. And then the person who picked the song will give some background as to like, why did they pick the song? And then the other two, sorry, the other three can chime in and say whether we knew that was a cover or not before it was chosen i'm gonna tell you this full disclosure as always this week i feel a lot better about my list than in previous and i think it's because you know this is the best of

the topics uh of the trilogy you know the third this is the Return of the Jedi, arguably the best one. Some people say the second one is the best. Yeah, Empire Strikes Back is the best one. Most people say Empire, but there are a select few, the one percenters, who know that Jedi is the best one. I'm not saying I'm one of those people, but I'm just saying that this is the third one, and this is definitely not the Godfather 3, let's be honest.

Which was nominated for Best Picture that year. But I want to just point out that every song on my list, I was shocked to learn that those were covers. I could swear those were original songs

and I had no idea they were covers. Now, again, it doesn't mean that you learned this last week that it was a cover, but it can be a song that for many, many years you enjoyed and thought it was an original composition. Every song on my list is at least 20 years old, if not 30 years old, if not 40 years old.

And I thought that they were, you know. Okay. There's so many songs when you deep dive to pick five that don't make the list. You're like, holy. You know, like, nothing's going to change my love for you. Stu, Stu. Stu, hold on. Come on. So this is the first time in the trilogy that there was a repeat.

So I will say that I had my five loaded first, and then I got Cam's list, and then I got Stu's list. Stu picked a song on my list. So I went and got a sixth one so that Stu could have his five intact. And when we play this song that Stu chose that I also chose, I will point out that that's the one. But two things. One is that... Good compromise. Yes. I messed up your order

because I couldn't copy and paste because of the way you linked me to YouTube videos. So, does your order matter? I know it's kind of the wrong time to ask this. For me, it does. For me, it does. Alright. Email me the song. No, just the one song I want last is the Does your order matter? I know it's kind of the wrong time to ask this. For me, it does. For me, it does. All right. I just want my last one. No, just the one song I want last is the one song I want last.

My best one. Right now, while I play the song to set this up, email me the name of the song that you want to have go last. No, no. You should know, man. There's only one song on my list that is the best of them all, and that's the one. I don't know. So maybe you email me now quickly or email me or text me the name of the song

you want to have go last, and I'll set that up. And I'm going to play the song kind of to set this up here. This also lets me know if you guys can hear the music. So here's a jam here. Sounds like it's coming from the... Now this is not one of the jams I picked, but this is to set us up here. So firstly, can you gentlemen hear this song? Yes. Very well.

Okay. Originally I was playing at the wrong pod here. The song has completely a different meaning when Cindy Lauper takes it and makes it her own. It's like a completely different song. And it's just a completely different song and launches her into superstardom. Yes, absolutely. And she has a huge wrestling connection, as you know. So we could almost, again, it all comes back to what we were singing before i pressed record which was

cuts from the wrestling album but okay yeah so i feel like this that's sorry go ahead i was gonna just point out that this is robert hazard singing his original song girls just want to have fun and i'm playing this before we kick things off just to set the table because this is a song i absolutely loved as a kid like everyone else i love the video you know come on captain lou albano is in the freaking video it was amazing but it took a long time i don't know how old i was but it took many many years before i learned it was actually a cover i just assumed it was a cindy lauper song because it seemed so for her. So this is the kind of jams we're going to play during this episode. Go ahead, Cam. No, I was going to say

another topic, and this is an example that this could slot right in, would be cover songs that were sung by guys that were then covered by girls. We're done with covers after this for a while. I'm just saying, fuck off for a second. It's my time to speak um just saying hypothetically you know maybe down the line depending on how long

we're here in quarantine we might need to circle back to covers this could be something you know give us a chance to talk about like tiffany i saw him standing there covered the beetles i saw her standing there right uh Lots of other great examples I can't think of right now But Fuck yeah Food for thought We'll see how long

The pandemic goes But Stu Did you ever email me The name of the song You want to have go last I sent it to your Twitter Oh okay Okay

I know where to look now Come at me bro What do you think of this Did you guys know About the Robert Hazard version? The shocking thing is that we have 15 cover songs to play, and this wasn't one of them. How is that possible?

I guess we were all too cool for shul. You know, we were all, you know, oh, I don't want to pick Girls Just Want to Have Fun. This belonged on everybody's list. Yeah, but I think we have a good cadence down here where I think we're also good at sort of anticipating what our colleagues would pick and just, you know, picking away from those entry. So here we go. Are you ready to kick out Cam's first cover? He didn't know it was a cover, but of course, we're going to play the original because we're only everyone's heard the covers.

We thought were originals. Everybody's heard them a million times, but I bet you a lot of people listening will be interested to hear the originals. They might not have known were existed. So, and they probably don't even know the original artists. Right. So let's do the first one for Cam Gordon. And I apologize. It's a bit quiet.

I should have listened before I played it, but here we go. Well, I figured it out. Here we are. Oh, yeah. Wow. I didn't know that this was a cover. Larry Zbysko, shut up. I'm waiting for that hook. Let's not talk about hook in there. Kind of sounds like a Tina Turner song even now. Wow.

So this is, uh, you're going to love this. This is actually Bonnie Tyler of, uh, total eclipse of the heart fame. Um, and,

and judging by the YouTube play count of this version of the song, the best, uh, originally came out like 1988 or something. Um, I guess this is sort of known this was a cover I mean it both for the Tina Turner version that came out like 93 or so and this version both have a shitload of views so maybe I just missed

it but I had no idea this was a cover at all certainly at the best by Tina Turner a big use a lot of like sports compilations in the 90s. Probably like the Blue Jays, World Series parades. I wouldn't be surprised if this was maybe in the background. Larry Zbysko's theme song in AWA. Is that true? Yeah. The Best?

Yeah. Okay. Wow. I'm glad to. I think that also, I was going to say, well, now this theory is sort of debunked because Bonnie Tyler, she's a known entity. But a lot of the times, if you want to license a song for a movie, if you can't get the Tina Turner version, maybe this is a better option for you. Sure. How does that work?

There's a publishing and you pay for the writer, right? There's a publishing and then there's the singer. You're the movie maker. That's a whole other deep dive for another episode. Basically, at the end of the day, the writer and the publisher, or sorry, the person who wrote the song and did all the work gets nothing no matter what in any entertainment. Really?

Did Bonnie Tyler write this? Is this a Bonnie Tyler jam? I don't know. Cam would have to tell us that. But the term starving artist, you know, it's real. Because I would think... Sorry, go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say,

who's the Canadian hip-hop artist you're friendly with? Is it Classified? Oh, Decisive. Oh, yeah. Decisive, right. Yes. Derek. What does he have to do with this?

I don't know. It just came to mind when you were talking about music and movies. I know you've done some stuff with him. Yes. Decisive is great, by the way. I think he's a fantastic artist. Yeah, his music is definitely great. Is he starving?

Well, I mean, he's not starving, but everybody's starving. You know what I mean? It's like... Except Tina Turner. Tina Turner is a legend. If you get to legendary status, you's not starving, but everybody's starving. You know what I mean? It's like... Except Tina Turner. Tina Turner is a legend. If you get to legendary status, you're not starving. Now, Bonnie Tyler, I have to say, I feel like at some point in my life, I knew about this being a cover, but I forgot I'd known.

So I think I'm with you. I'd be curious to know, Stu, did you know Simply the Best was a cover? I did not know. I definitely did not know. I was just going to say, when I discovered this was a cover, it's sort of subconsciously, it's not that surprising somehow.

Maybe it just doesn't sound in some way like other Tina Turner songs, which I'm not sure is even true. But yeah, I don't know. I had a lot of emotion when I discovered this was a cover. A real rage. I love it. That was a great start.

And now I can't wait to talk about Stu Stones. Wait a minute. Hold on a minute. Simply the Best Art Garfunkel? Is this? No, never mind. Never mind. I'm so glad you stopped me for that.

Okay, stop me down in my tracks. I was about to click play. Okay, I'm kicking out Stu's first jam, unless you have anything else. She didn't write the song, by the way. But ironically, Desmond Child produced that song we just heard. Mike Chapman co-wrote with Holly Knight Holly Knight famous for writing love is a battlefield wow yeah and that's Pat Benatar

that's Pat Benatar of course who hit me also wow hold on Holly Knight also wrote the song Obsession which was the Saturday night's main event. Hold your fire. Hold your fire. I've got my mind set on you. I've got my mind set on you. I know what I've got to do. It's going to take money. It's a lot of spending money. It's going to take hard money to do it right, child. It's going to take time.

A lot of precious time. It's going to time Oh, what a precious time It's gonna take patience and time Oh, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it, to do it Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, good choice, Stu. Everywhere I go, you know Excellent. Thank you.

Now, this is a song that probably none of us knew. Well, maybe now we do, but none of us probably realized that this was a cover. Well, I'm going to just interrupt you to say that I have shared the fun fact several times on Toronto Mike that this is a cover. Because I only discovered about... I'm not saying in now. I'm talking about back in the day when the George Harrison song came out. You're right. There's no way that anybody knew that this was a cover.

You're right. Unless you were some real deep dive music nerd and you would really have to know your 1960s not charted blues songs. So who is singing this right now? This is James Ray. He stood only five feet tall. How about this? How old do you think this guy is by listening to his voice?

He sounds a little seasoned. I'd say he's maybe 42 years old. This is going to blow your mind, man. He passed away in 1964 at the age of 22. Wow. So this guy's like a teenager sounding like this. Wow, let's hear that. Wait, that voice of the teenager.

Yeah. He must have smoked a lot of cigarettes. That's a great voice for a teenager. Holy smokes. Great choice, man. Because I will say, go ahead. I was going to just real quickly that I bought the 45 single.

I loved it so much. I was such a fan of this George Harrison song. The George Harrison version is incredible. George Harrison actually purchased a copy of this album that had this song on it in 1963 when he went to the United States to visit his sister. Over two decades later, he revived Got My Mind Set On You and took it to number one in 1988. Now, you're talking about a guy who died in 1964. 24 years later, that song made money after he died. Reminds me of the Pearl Jam Last Kiss story, right?

Didn't Eddie just dish out a 45 in a garage sale or something and then fell in love with the song? But that song was known, was it not? Yeah, no, Last Kiss was known. You're right, you're right. But this was more obscure, James Rigg. Great, great choice. Fantastic.

Off to a roaring start, boys. Now, let's hear it. Cam, when George Harrison first hit the charts with this cover, did you know it was a cover? No, I feel like I learned on your podcast, like in real time, Mike. I feel like we discussed this in one of my first episodes somehow. We did. This came up.

No, I had no idea up until recently. one of my first episodes somehow we did this came up. Um, no, I, I had no idea up until recently. I'll, I'll be honest. I never cared for the George Harrison version. Wow. Um,

sacrilege. I'm just, you know, I'm just, I'm just, he's too cool for George Harrison. George Harrison's too mainstream. You know, not only did Kim not know that that was a cover song,

but he also didn't know George Harrison was a Beatle. I can't know everything about music. Come on. Okay, great choice. He wants a quiet one. I mean, like, come on, give me a break. All right, now my first jam. I'm thoroughly enjoying this. How about that? I propose. Well done. You are an obsession

I cannot sleep I am a possession Unopened at your feet. There is no balance, no equality. Be still, I will not accept defeat. I will have you. Yes, I will have you. I will find a way. And I will have you. I couldn't believe it when you guys mentioned this jam already in this episode. I'm like, guys, that's my first jam. This is Obsession. And of course, the version we all know. And I know it for a different reason. You know it.

I know it as Fashion Television, right? With Jeannie Becker. This was the theme song. So I knew it from that. And then you guys know it, there's a wrestling connection? Is that what I overheard? It was the longtime theme for Saturday Night's main event. Right.

But not that version. No, no, okay. This is the... The superior cover version. Animotion is the artist that did the superior cover version that we all know, Animotion. This is the original by a guy named Michael DeBar and Holly Knight. So Michael DeBar and Holly Knight are doing this version. I will confess, I had no idea the Animotion version of Obsession was a cover.

Yeah, can we say a few words about the band Animotion? I mean, I don't have a lot of respect for this band. If you look at their discography, it's mainly remakes of other people's songs. Just check out their Wikipedia page. They had one other top ten hit other than this. I don't know if you guys remember this song, Room to Move. It was on the soundtrack to... Room to Move.

That's all I need. Exactly. That's the same band? Yeah, same band. It doesn't even sound like it could be the same band. Yeah, that song was in the movie My Stepmother is an Alien. Sure.

Canadian Dan Aykroyd. That song was also a cover from an album by Climby Fisher. Do you remember him? Huh. Yeah. So, like, Animotion, you know, I'm trying to think what an equivalent would be

in this band. Okay, what about that Burlington band? People love that Burlington band with the bearded guy who passed away too early. What's the name of that band? Oh, I was going to say Walk Off the Earth. Walk Off the Earth, yeah. Walk Off the Earth has, I know there's this one song, I think Red Hands, I think it's called, which I believe

is an original and it got a lot of radio play, but the vast majority of the stuff you've heard from Walk Off the Earth has, I know there's this one song, I think Red Hands, I think it's called, which I believe is an original, and it got a lot of radio play, but the vast majority of the stuff you've heard from Walk Off The Earth is covers. So I don't know if that's a comparable. I don't know. Go ahead, Stu. No, no, I was going to just talk about, if you have something else to say there,

I was going to talk about this writer, Holly Knight, for a second. Yeah, go for it. Well, you know how she wrote that last song? that I was going to move, talk about this writer, Holly Knight, for a second. Yeah, go for it. Go for it. Well, you know how she wrote that last song? She also wrote a bunch of songs for Tina Turner afterwards.

So I wonder if Tina heard that song and was like, because Holly Knight also wrote You Better Be Good To Me. Wow. And it's about seven other songs

for Tina Turner. Well, it's amazing considering who her dad was. Like, it's amazing, you know, just the Bobby Knight. Yes. Michael Knight.

Right, with Kit. Right. She also wrote Ragdoll, Aerosmith. Ragdoll, living in a movie. Hot times, everything was good.

Love is a Battlefield, we spoke about. With Pat Benatar, who also had Hit Me If You're Best Shot, which I think came up in the last Covers episode. So, yeah, quite a nice career for Holly Knight. I've actually hung out with her a few times at my old studio.

Wow. You were in McLean's and you hung out with Holly Knight. She seems like could be one of those sneaky Hollywood show business people who's like a millionaire just because of all the publishing. Hopefully. If she kept on. I think she's got cash. So Holly Knight

wrote a bunch of Tina Turner hits. Yes. If you want to leave, I won't beg you to stay. And if you gotta go, darling, maybe it's better that way. The content video of this episode is incredible. Maybe it's better that way Is this Cam's song? Yeah, the content video of this episode is incredible. Wow, I had no idea. Oh, it surprises me.

Don't turn around, Ace of Base. Yes, of course. Summer of 95, damn. Except Ace of Base made it like a minor chord version. This seems like a major chord version. No one can see it but you guys, but this is my brain exploding right now. Do you see it? Yeah, this is like the power ballad, and Ace of Base was obviously kind of the Euro trash version.

Don't you dare. How dare you. There's this bill over there. Okay, holy shit. Am I right? Ace of Base, Don't Turn Around, big hit. Yeah. Is a cover of a Tina Turner song.

Yeah, like arguably one of the biggest artists in music history. Like it's... Better be good to me. How do we miss this? Where were we? It's really familiar with both artists And yet somehow we never connected the dots

Which Tina Turner album Featured Don't Turn Around? It was like Private Dancer It was like one of the big albums I think Was it not? You know the first and only time I've been to a strip club The first dance was to Private Dancer. Tina Turner.

Wait, what were you going to say? What were you going to say? Now I get a Pavlov dog reaction. I was going to do some kind of thing, but I changed my mind. But Tina Turner, when she exploded back onto the scene in the 80s, during that period that we always refer to, where the A&Rs had no imagination and brought back whatever worked in the 70s, Tina Turner exploded back out on the scene in the 80s during that period that we always refer to where the anrs had no imagination and brought back whatever worked in the 70s tina turner exploded back out on the scene with uh you know what's love got to do with it obviously a great movie as well uh anime all that

stuff well the movie came much later though yeah yeah but i'm saying that that era though when she was huge uh right now it's like we had no idea that i didn't know that you know this was just this new exciting artist and she was uh you know right yeah we didn't know about the stuff with uh the bad x uh ike yeah and uh her cover speaking of covers of course her cover of a ccr classic that was her definitive song i I would argue, is Big Wheels Keep On... Oh, Proud Mary? Yeah, it's Proud Mary. Yeah, I mean, sort of her first wave. Her first run. I would say What's Love Got To Do With It, even the Mad Max

song, We Don't Need Another Hero, that was a big smash. Hey guys, I don't want to blow your minds too much here, but you know who else famously covered this song? Bonnie Tyler. What?! Yes. Look it up. It's on wikipedia like this is i feel like we're just talking about the same four artists and like different you know what with your permission

with ian's permission i'd like to shut it down right now like i let's just end it right now end on a high like george costanza's right yeah i can promise you that I will be Blowing your mind as well later on guys Although I will say this Kind of the overlap between Bonnie, Tyler and Tina Turner I can see that both sort of Especially in the 80s Sort of these big

Get your lighters out and yeah Sort of like meatloaf style with the whole Yeah I would do anything for love or whatever Exactly So I yeah a lot of i would do anything for love or whatever exactly right so so i think a lot of people including myself were educated into the fact that uh ace of bases don't turn around was a cover please tell me is all that she wants is another baby is that also a cover um as far as i know that's an original um but i mean, like I used to say, like, and I'm down with Ace of Base. You know, I saw the sign personally, but like it wouldn't surprise me if.

Aren't they Nazis? Was that at the Kingswood Theater when you saw the sign? Well, I was working at Wonderland at the time. Okay, guys, I need to know, though. Please correct this if it's wrong. They're nazis right like uh there's a white supremacist uh they're what ace of base am i wrong ace of base are nazis i have no idea hold on a minute i that's fucked up if that's true because i've been loving them

and their music and i would be very disappointed to learn that i'd be more mind blown to learn that ace of base are nazis than i am that that song is i should say allegedly i feel like uh the voice of my lawyer you're you're a tread lightly here you don't want another cease and desist letter uh allegedly possibly there's some ties to something there was an article huh stew's doing some crack research i might have been misinformed not the girls okay good guys right guy one of the founders of ace of base one of the musicians used to be a fucking nazi so uh just that might have tainted that selection and now I'd like to play the next Stu Stone song because this is the jam that was on

my list, my original five. Because this is a song... Wait, hold on. Before you play this, is there going to be an episode later where we play artists that we didn't know were Nazis? Because I think Ace of Bays is going to come back again in that episode.

That's possible. It depends how long the pandemic goes. So I just want to preface this, even though this is actually technically Stu's jam, but I share a bit of it because I had it on my list. I just want to preface it by saying I was madly in love with the song I did not know was a cover when I was a young man,

like madly in love with it, where I would seek out and record off the radio. There was a longer version of it that would go like forever. It felt like it would go forever. Yeah, yeah. Went to another cover. It was a double cover of that version. Yeah, right.

And that, right. Baby, baby. Let's just get going with the original of this song right now. Sometimes I feel I've got to run away I've got to get away from the pain You drive into the heart of me The love we share seems to go nowhere And our love's not right For I toss and turn and can't sleep at night

Next I run to you Now I run from you The tiny love you're giving I give you all a girl can give you Take not give and that's not living Oh, take me love Take me love And this song from 1965 holds up, man.

This is still a banger. I've got to get away You don't really want any love from me There's also a Marilyn Manson version of this song. That's right. Oh, yeah. Tainted Love, which was made, I would say, was made famous by Soft Cell.

That's the version I was in love with in the early 80s. But whose voice are we hearing right now, Stu Stone? The song is composed by Ed Cobb is the songwriter, but the artist is Gloria Jones that you're hearing singing. Song does not do anything, and it's probably another one of those like George Harrison visited

his sister and picked up an album. One of those type of stories here again. But Gloria Jones, yeah, she put this out in 1965. It did nothing. And 1981, Tainted Love is recorded, and that song sustains popularity for the rest of life. But I wouldn't have even guessed that Tainted Love was released in 1981.

It seems like a 1984, 85 song, 86 song to me. So that shows you the shelf life of songs back in the 80s. MTV, when it came out in 83, songs, videos from 1980 and 81 and 82 were getting played, and they were all brand new again. Pretty wild times, my friend. Pretty wild times. Stu, you and I would have been like four years old

when that tune came out. Yet it feels like it was a new song in 86 to me if i had to guess a year i would have said 85 86 let me just give you a fun fact about gloria jones here real quick which is better be fun she was uh in a committed relationship with mark bolin you guys might know mark bolin best from uh being the lead singer of uh t-rex oh wow right exactly which is another song that was covered right because didn't robert palmer cover it uh power station oh yes but yes yes yeah which came out of duran duran right yeah yeah that's right yeah it was like him and like the two from Duran Duran. And did you hear one of the guys from Duran Duran caught the virus?

Not Nick Taylor. Nick Taylor. Yeah, I think it was. It wasn't Simon. It was the other guy. Right. Nick Taylor. There were Taylor brothers in that band, I think.

But when there was the, and I was a big Duran Duran guy, okay? When the Duran Duran had to split, I think some of them went to a band called Arcadia, I believe. Duran, Duran, yeah. The rest became The Power Station with Robert Palmer and they definitely covered that T-Rex song. By the way, that song, that Power Station song that you

love so much, I have a feeling that that producer is now Rogers of that song. Who has a connection with a gentleman who I was just talking to yesterday I have a feeling that that producer is now Rogers of that song. Right. Who has a connection with a gentleman who I was just talking to yesterday because he produced a song for an album for the spoons. And I was talking to Gord Depp yesterday because I was booking him on Humble and Fred's podcast.

They have a new song that just dropped. Right. That's why they're out making the rounds. Rihanna's career, by the way, tied to the song T just dropped. That's why they're out making the rounds. Rihanna's career, by the way, tied to the song Tainted Love. Her first hit single, her breakout single, S.O.S., featured the sample of Tainted Love.

The song was actually... The guys in this band, Soft Cell, the guy used to work as a coat check guy. He heard the song playing where he was working as a coat check, taped it, and then they covered it. Boom, boom, boom, here we are, talking about it on Toronto Mic. And of course, it

all comes kind of really full circle because Gloria Jones, who was is that her name? Yeah. Was dating Mark Bolin from T-Rex. Mark Bolin was a big inspiration for Soft Cell, which was the Mark Almond, I believe,

is the guy from Soft Cell. And huge inspiration. So it was all kind of in that UK circle there. It was all... Years of fun, even more fun fact than that, years before Jay-Z was doing it on the regular, the Soft Cell's Tainted Love song, the track you hear on the record,

that's the first take. Wow. You went in the studio, laid that down, boom. Wow. Sorry, SOS ones? No, no. The Soft Cell's Tainted Love. Okay.

No, SOS was highly produced. The vocal take you're hearing, that's take one. Wow. Okay, so this has been so far fantastic. I can't believe I'm only kicking out my second jam now. I feel like we've done two weeks worth of content here. But here is my second jam. Here we go. Wow, I had no idea. All the new children What did you tell them?

Baby, I feel the radio storm Baby, I feel the radio storm Pictures came and took your heart Now, what this does, gentlemen, is when you find out a song you've known for decades is a cover, what it does is it immediately lessens the creativity that you were giving to somebody else. If you listen to this, which is, by the way, a guy named Bruce Woolley, this song is called Video Killed the Radio Star.

And as you listen to it, like right now, realize the buggles they just they just covered a song like how easy is that i feel like we could cover a song right well it happened to prince time and time again i mean prince had songs of his that were released and and then people would just cover the same song and make a hit but uh but uh this one's blowing my mind i'm hearing the way that the musicianship, though, in this song, the bass is a little more rock and roll-ish. It feels like this could actually be like a hipster kind of resurgence hit. If this came out now, this version, I think it might actually do well.

It sounds very contemporary in its delivery. I was going to say, it seems like something that would be like on a 90s teen movie soundtrack. It could be Weezer, right? This could be Weedus. Yeah, yes. I said Weezer and then I changed it from Weezer

to Weedus because I didn't want to go to Ween. But it's definitely in that Weezer, Weedus space. Yeah, this is another song I never had much time for. It reminded me of the song She Blinded Me with

Science, kind of that silly side. And I saw that Thomas Dolby actually played keyboards on the original song. I just read that on Wikipedia. So again, the whole British it all ties together. You know what? This is the first song to ever be played So again, the whole British, it all ties together. You know what? Small Island.

This is the first song to ever be played on MTV. Correct. The very first song on MTV ever. The cover. Yes. The Buggles, yeah. Interesting. When you mentioned the silly songs and you mentioned the Thomas Dolby,

because fun fact, the next iteration of FOTM's Kick Out the Jams, which you should all contribute to, by the way, way Ian already did but you guys should as well includes a Hawksley Workman choice uh a Thomas Dolby jam that Hawksley Workman's gonna kick out on the FOTM Kick Out the Jam volume five. Kim dare I uh dare I put up that's very cool by the way uh dare I uh uh never mind I forget what I was okay well thank you for telling me that was cool though but I wanted to say something oh yeah the song that all reminds me of that genre that style

oh sorry Mike I remember now putting on the Ritz remember that one trying hard to look like Gary Cooper super duper yeah but the song I'm thinking of now is the future's so bright I gotta wear shades

Right? Like Timbuk3 Right Right And that song I love nuclear science I love my classes

I got a crazy teacher Who wears dark glasses Things are going great And they're only getting better Right? I'm doing alright Getting good grades the future's so bright i gotta wait that you sing that it makes me feel like it's a different song oh i'm doing my

that's like a tom petty style but it sounds more like it was me and you in red gino vanelli f-o-t-m gino Vanelli is in one of the quarantine houses. You sound like Gino. Guess where I put Gino Vanelli? In the Palma Pasta house. Perfect. Because he's Gino Vanelli. Okay.

Is that racist? No, it's not racist. Okay. If you have to ask, it usually is. That's a good point. Okay, so that was, yes. So Bruce Woolley is the original artist and it's fair to say cam you did not know that the buggles that song you don't like for the no but like but that's like it's sort of asked a bigger question who are the buggles like what do we know yeah let's find out what do we know about that bit anyway

i can find out for you real quick uh find out Not to be confused with the Ruttles, by the way. The Ruttles, yes. That guy died, right? The guy from Monty Python. Because who died from Monty Python recently? That guy. That guy was part of the Ruggles. That's right.

Okay. So, let's kick out the third oh wow oh wow stop the press talking shit cam talking shit about about the musicianship here do you know what other bands the guy that's that uh that that's in the buggles who also played with can i guess first of all when did i talk shit all i said is the said is, that's all I said. And then I was like, shall I find out? And you were like, no, thank you.

Can I guess? And so, go ahead. The Knack. No. How about Yes, Art of Noise, and a songwriter producer for Seal.

Holy shit. It's crazy. Yeah. Adamski adamski okay that's amazing stew anytime you have a fun fact i know you got that fun fact term from me so anytime you want to drop a fun fact just do it here's got that hoxley workman appearance from me did i no okay i think tyler I think Tyler Campbell did that. Okay. I almost said Tyler Stewart, but that's because I'm thinking of Stephen Page later today. Okay. Dave, whoa, I almost said the name of the jam.

Let me kick it out. I know all there is to know about the crying game. I've had my share of the crying game. Sometimes you want to get that to the hook, right? So you let a jam go for like 45 to 60 seconds to get to that simply the best this guy did it right off the top okay okay i know it's like second line talk to us cam uh who whose voice are we hearing right now uh god that that that's a good question i mean that the cover i can tell. Okay, this is Dave Barry.

Dave Barry. Dave Barry, yeah, whoever that is. It's one of the interesting things about this episode. I mean, most of the artists were generally not familiar with. Again, another British artist, Dave Barry, was kind of active in the 60s. This version, The Crying Game, came out game came out 1964 and then similar to I got my mind set on you but even a bigger gap was covered by Boy George for the movie of the same name the crying game did you guys ever see that movie I never

thought it's no spoilers okay I thought in the Okay. And it was one of those movies you sort of had... You know how the Sixth Sense, you sort of are sitting around waiting for that big aha moment at the end? Yeah. The Crying has its own sort of I see dead people kind of moment. I won't give it away. Usual suspects. But it's interesting that the cover version of this song,

how it sort came became an anthem for you know uh you know that a sexual movement of the of the time where people were sort of coming out of the closet or like the trans trans uh right yeah i wonder if the original crying game song had anything to do with or any messaging to do with any of that because if that's true that would have been like really ahead of its time talking about you know I don't know if the song is actually about that or we just associate it with that because of the movie

I think Dave Barry was writing this about he had witnessed his his English soccer team lose another World Cup I think and he was crying profusely so he wrote the Crying Game because he was for England in the World Cup I think and he was uh crying profusely so he wrote the crying game because he was for his for england in the world cup i think and so from such a masculine macho i made that up actually because i think england actually wins the world cup in 1966 so they did

like you made that whole thing up yeah well you did that all the time i just thought i wouldn't that's not true that's not true yeah you serve up facts I think are real, and you're like, oh, I made that up. Guys, this is very important. I'm just looking on Wikipedia. Do you know who played guitar on this version we just heard? George Harrison. Sort of close. Jimmy Page, if you can believe it.

He was in The Birds, right? He was in The Birds. Yeah, Jimmy Page. He was in Led Zeppelin. Okay, when did The Birds end? He was in The Birds, right? No, he was in The Yardbirds. I meant The Yardbirds, yeah.

Right, I meant The Yardbirds. Yeah, so I mean, this would have been like right before probably The Yardbirds. And Eric Clapton was in The Yardbirds at that time, I believe. I believe that's like a... That's right, yeah.

Like they sort of had a rotating thing or like they had a few different iterations obviously one of the first kind of super groups wow so was that we were hearing some Jimmy Page guitar work on that The Crying Game yeah I mean he

wasn't playing lead guitar someone named Big Jim Sullivan John Studd was on lead guitar um someone named big jim sullivan uh perhaps big john stud that was on lead guitar but jimmy uh jimmy page contributed some guitar too which is uh yeah wild but anyway i just want to say about the the cover version of this song i thought it was i remember when it came out it really helped usher in boy george into like the 90s and sort of to the present day because he was

sort of you know culture club had sort of been off the radar and then he kind of came out of i don't say came out of nowhere but it's like holy shit like i i love this his cover version like it was awesome um it's just so again melancholy reminded me of like enigma I know we played some Enigma tracks. Oh, hi. I'm that kind of under-key, low-key. Didn't that inspire this episode because you told us about the original and we played it? That's right. The drinking song or the

elders drinking song, which was more like a... And then I transitioned... I can't remember what I did. Oh, no. There was another one. Right. There was the... I think you are right. I think that did inspire this trilogy of episodes we've given. If I may check in on this song for a moment. Go ahead, Stu.

The version that Cam loves was produced by the Pet Shop Boys that makes sense and as well the production and the sort of inspiration was the show Twin Peaks they were going for like a sort of creepy Twin Peaks kind of vibe I could totally see yeah

and they achieved that also how about this for a fun fact had any of us actually remembered the movie The Crying Game or if Cam had actually seen it then he would know and we would know that this version of the song that we just played was in the movie The Crying Game yeah that's why I set up like I said it was the theme song

but the both versions not just the boy George I'm saying the original version was also in the movie why didn't I fucking see it how am I supposed to know that Jesus Christ also I haven't seen that it. How am I supposed to know that? Jesus Christ. Also, I haven't seen that movie in 20 years or something like that. I just remember the end of the movie.

That's all I remember. Spoiler alert. I feel like it's one of those movies you don't have to see it to know what the big reveal is. I know what the big reveal is. Oh, and it is a big reveal. Yeah, I've heard.

You wouldn't know anything about big in that regard. When you're this big, they call you Mr. I remember those. By the way, they sung a song To Be With You. I'm the one who wants to, Mr. Big. I find it strange that that Mr. Big song

that was a monster hit came out almost right after, I think, Extremes. More Than Words. More Than Words. I was in high school at the time and is it offensive to say chicks dug it man like the chicks dug those two jams like those i mean usually if you have to ask if it's offensive it usually is i gotta write that down for next time okay i want to play hair in that in both of those groups by the way and then one of the guys from

extreme ended up having a cup of coffee with Van Halen. Yeah, Gary Cherone. Sass Jordan auditioned for that gig. So Sass Jordan, who on this very program, she's an FOTM, by the way. Watch that live video stream. Speaking of that sort of Tina Turner vocal voice, Sass Jordan, she fits in there. Funn vocal voice. Sass Jordan.

She fits in there. Funnily enough, Sass Jordan played Janis Joplin on Broadway or something and never liked Janis Joplin music, even though she had the vocal similarities because of that raspy voice that she could produce. She's a treasure. But just like Gino Vanelli, she's one of those great Montreal

singer-songwriters. But let's play Stu Stone's third jam. Believe me when I tell you You're the king of my dreams Please don't deceive me when I hurt you It just ain't the way it seems Can't you hear my love buzz? Can't you hear my love buzz? Can't you hear my love buzz? Can't you hear my love buzz? I need you like it doesn't need rain.

Now, Stu, guys like us are fluent with this cover because of obvious reasons we'll explain in a moment, but I bet you a lot of people listening aren't even familiar with the cover that we love. Well, they wouldn't be familiar. Oh, they wouldn't be. Okay, well, listen.

Because unlike all the other songs, all the other songs that we've done so far, the cover was like a mainstream, like top 40 hit, if you will. But this jam, you had to be a fan of the band, which many people are, especially guys our age. But this is, you know, before Smells Like Teen Spirit

was popularized on MTV with the music video, that really, that's an example of a music video that took a song and changed the world, really. The power of that Nirvana music video. But before that, if it wasn't if they didn't have team spirit the only thing they would be known for in the rock community would be love buzz because that was their debut single uh from bleach yes so uh this is a very popular nirvana song right but stations like 102.1 for, which was the only station in town that might have played that song, weren't playing Love Buzz.

No. So you had to go backwards. But eventually they would. Because it's similar to when Nirvana blew up, everything blew up. Right. You had to get your hands on all Nirvana. Green Day, another example of a band who you think that's their first album. There was like three albums before that that became popular. you know it's very rare this is another topic bands that blow up

and then you find out they have a wealth on their fifth on their fifth album like death cab for cutie or something like death cab for cutie all of a sudden they're mainstream like they're everywhere on the radio and spin doctors had albums before yeah i feel like there's a lot of 90s fans fell into that category, sort of in the alt-rock revolution, as FOTM Alan Cross would say. But you also think about Nirvana, which, listen, Nirvana's in the conversation for the most influential acts of all time. They're in the conversation. They've got to be a mandatory top five artists based on their

influence and the that they've changed the whole world right yeah kirk cobain and his songwriting he was known to jack people for their stuff you know like this is this love buzz song i don't know the circumstances around him choosing the song but it's like a dutch rock song psychedelic rock song maybe lesser known but you, when you listen to some other, you can hear Nirvana melodies in other places too. Oh, Pixies and stuff. Yes, you can hear that like, Kurt's very, very inspired. He's not afraid to, you know, play someone else's riff.

And, Stu, there are parts of Smells Like Teen Spirit that sound like more than a feeling by Boston. Yeah, I think he admitted he was kind of copying the riff from More Than a Feeling. I mean, when you think about the number of Nirvana originals that were on studio albums, and I'm not talking like Incesticide or The B-Sides, I mean, it's a pretty small discography. It's what, like it's 45 songs? It's maybe 40 songs? But they all resonate with you.

It's similar to when you put on the Nevermind album. All killer, no filler. Every single song you have some sort of attachment or memory or something to. And that's because that's one of the greatest albums ever. I mean, it's like the Beatles' White Album. You know every song on that album. Something in the way. by saying that the original artist that we just heard from is a band called Shocking Blue. Shocking Blue has another song that I'm surprised none of us picked because a lot of people think

it's an original by Bananarama. It's Venus, right? Correct. Venus by Bananarama, which a lot of people think is a Bananarama song, is actually a Shocking Blue song. Yeah, I feel like Bananarama was a bit like Animotion where

a lot of their singles were actually covers with all due respect to the ladies of Bananarama. Cruel Summer was a cover. Their only hits were covers. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Did they sing Seasons Change or was that Exposé? I think that was Exposé.

Yeah, that was not... Seasons Change! was that Exposé? I think that was Exposé. Yeah, that was not. Seasons Change. I finally found us like yesterday. Another thing that, you know, other than. Isn't that Voices Carry that we were singing by Till Tuesday? Yeah. Other than re-spitting out 70s acts, it seems like another 80s, 90s A&R tactic was to launch acts with covers

from 20 years earlier as well. This would fall under that category. I feel like it was almost harder to know at that time. Now we can hop on Wikipedia and in two seconds we can have a whole backstory. No, but even a band like Limp Bizkit who had faith,

jumped on the scene and people were doing covers. Or Kylie Minogue is a great example. Kylie Minogue's first big hit was Locomotion, which is a Little Eva song. Yeah. Tiffany, you know? Right. All her stuff was covers, actually.

She's another example, right? Because I think we're alone now. Children behave. I was about to make it on someone's list. I think we're alone now. And I saw her standing there. Yeah. You're nailing all this, but another big hit by an artist I quite like who did

a lot of great original stuff, particularly with Generation X. But I'm talking, of course, not Billie Eilish, but I'm talking about Billie Idol. And Billie Idol, of course, had a monster hit with a song also by Tommy James and the... Tommy Chondels. Right.

And that song, of course, is Moany Moany. Moany Moany? Yeah. One of the great bar mitzvah classics with the X-rated call and response. Well, they banned it from my high school dances because... Or my grade school dances, I should say, it was banned. Can I make one other comment, just sort of in the same vein? There was also the wave of

new metal artists in the 90s where they would burst on the scene with a cover off of a new wave song. Cars. Yeah, I was going to say whoever covered Cars, that was like Typo Negative or something. And Blue Monday by Orgy. Blue Monday by Orgy and also Cold Chamber did Shock the Monkey.

Yeah. With Ozzy Osbourne. And then Marilyn Manson did Soft Cell and Limp Bizkit did George Michael. There was a whole bunch. Yeah, who did Cars? Can somebody Google that

while I dish up the next one? Also, you know, Mrs. Robinson was done as well. By the Lemonheads, that's right. Who was dating Julianna Hatfield. And Julianna Hatfield 3 had, of course, my sister, which was on my mixtape. Couldn't get enough of that fucking jam.

But yeah, you're a good example. Most importantly. I love these Friday episodes. Why don't we do this every day? Okay. Yeah. Here's my third jam. Here's my third jam. Here's my third jam.

Oh, Mike, it was Fear Factory. Covered cars. Fear Factory and Orgy. They're at some event. Fear Factory, Orgy, and Colt. Marilyn Manson also did Sweet Dreams. Yes. Yes. Sweet dreams. Yes Wow, I had no idea.

Yeah. And now we... of the morning angel just touch my cheek before you leave me baby just call the angel of the morning angel I didn't know this was a cover

okay this is Evie Sands singing Angel of the Morning, which is a song I thought, erroneously, I thought it belonged to Juice Newton. Juice Newton? Juice Newton. I mean, this was, of course, people are hearing this now.

Young people are saying, oh, that's Shaggy, right? Because Shaggy takes the same song, but Juice Newton is the artist. In that community, you suppose that's what young people are saying? They're talking about Shaggy? I think so. Young people. What year is this?

Like 36-year-olds. 36-year-olds are young to me, but Juice Newton, I'm just looking at her discography but uh juice juice is loose you know what song i thought this was gonna be the other monster hit that i heard a lot on uh top 40 in the early 80s, in addition to this one, was Queen of Hearts. Do you guys remember Queen of Hearts? Oh, okay.

Playing with the Queen of Hearts. That's Two of Hearts. That's Stacey Q. Playing with the Queen of Hearts. Playing with the Queen of Hearts. That's Juice Newden. I don't remember that, but I do remember when Michelle and Stephanie and Kimmy Gibbler

skipped class to go meet Stacy Q at the mall and then they got caught there by Joey who was with Michelle, she was on a leash Was this Barbie Doll and Bear? Do you remember that? Who's your friend? And she had like the Barbie Doll and the bear

It was kind of like Barbie Doll and Bear Yeah, Barbie doll and the bear? Yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, I thought you... It was kind of like Barbie doll and bear. Yeah, Barbie doll and bear. I thought you were talking about the founding member of Poison, Bobby doll. Ah, no, no, no. Different thing altogether. So, any remarks from the... Cam, you and I were just chatting privately.

You thought you chose this jam. Did you consider this one? It reminded me of my last-minute addition to my list. But Juice Newt, you hear that name, and I think that's more like a wrestler name, kind of like a WWE jobber of the 90s. Yeah, also, I would suggest that you, I was scratching my head when you were bringing up Juice Newton

because that's not the version of the song that I know. Okay, what do you know? Bonnie Tyler's version. Who? Getting back to Bonnie Tyler. Bonnie Tyler's version of this song is the one that I know. Really?

Yes. And it was very popular too. Bonnie Tyler, look it up. Look it up. I see it Bonnie Tyler, look it up. Look it up. I see it. I mean, it exists. 100% see it right now. And it's like, can you just play it for a second?

Is that possible? Just go to the chorus. No, I take it back I don't know it I don't think this was a hit, man Not a hit I take it back So guys This song was written by someone named Chip Taylor

Who also famously wrote I take back the Bonnie Tyler thing Wild Thing Same guy Oh, wow A Wild Thing Wild Thing, I think I You saw Morning of Wild Thing. Wild Thing, I think I know. Also covered by the

LA Punk Band X. Their version was in the final scene of the movie Major League. Get out of here! Look at that. Are you talking about woke up today? Wild Thing. I know, I'm joking okay i was doing like

but the same guy also wrote uh ruby tuesday get out of here oh no no no no no no no no no sorry sorry sorry because that's a song was chip taylor who wrote the song angel in the morning yeah angel the song ruby tuesday by the rolling stones on the radio while driving and decided to write this. This was inspired by Ruby Tuesday. Gotcha. Glad you clarified that. Okay.

So, because Mick Jagger does have lawyers. And the Bonnie Tyler version was a dud. But I did see her name and I do have some recollection of her. But it's nice that you bring it full circle. Like, that's the joy of these episodes, how everything intertwines. Everything is connected. Or as I like to say, all the pieces matter. Is there any song that Bonnie Tyler hasn't covered?

I'm sure. We'll find one. I don't think she's covered Come On, Fucking Guy by Chuggo. That's the song that inspired this episode. Was it Chuggo? No, Come On, Feel the Noise. I played it last week from Brand Van 3000. And then we talked about how...

Remember, that's when we all thought Quiet Riot was the original, but actually the UK band Slade is the original. So it was a cover of a cover, which then Cam on Twitter was sharing other examples. For example, Britney Spears recorded, what song did she record? She did I Love Rock and Roll. So yeah, covers of songs that you didn't realize were covers.

Yeah, but there's nobody that heard that Britney Spears song that thought that that was an original. No, no, no, but they thought that was a cover. They thought that was a cover of a Joan Jett song. Oh, right, right, right. And again, that's the... Marilyn Manson covering Sauce Cell, covering Gloria Jones.'s the actually genre wise though when you hear all these cover songs you know one genre that is left out entirely is hip-hop because while people say

they sample right you'd never really cover someone else's lyrics it's different that's like sacrilegious in hip-hop if i was to re-record some dr dre, it wouldn't go over very well. You messed up too soon, Stu, on that one. I have one as well. Go first, Cam. I got nothing else to say. I'm going to let the music do the talking. Oh, my God. I just stepped into my own segue?

You just stepped in shit, dude. I just remember the real song that inspired this, actually. Maybe it was inspired by multiple songs, but it was actually the Arrows. So the Arrows recorded, that's an American band. Remember the Arrows recorded, not Hit Me If You Bet a Shot, the Arrows recorded...

Wait, you're talking about the Canadian band. Okay, yeah. Okay. There's two things going on here. There was I Love Rock and Roll, and the original artists behind i love rock and roll that guy died of covid right covid 19 got that guy yes but meanwhile there was the arrows that was an american canadian band that had they were different arrows there's two arrows that's the

problem so the canadian arrows forget about them for a minute that's like a toronto-based arrows but the arrows that recorded i love rock and roll that guy just just died of COVID-19. That's right. Anyway, I think that also inspired this episode. Do you remember the song Vietnam? No, no, no, no, 19. Yeah, I told you because I talked to some... Yes, this came up in a recent episode of Toronto Mic. Yes, Paul Harkus.

Right. Sorry, we brought this up before. Come on. Because that's what's going to happen. Hopefully this pandemic doesn't go so long that it's just reruns here. But speaking of covers, we'll just be covering ourselves. Let's kick out another.

This is a Cam Gordon jam. I should have played the other one because you teased it, but I fucked up. A lot of Whitney Houston songs are covers. I didn't know that until... A few stolen moments A lot of Whitney Houston songs are covers, and I didn't know that until... This is more of a, like, you know, loud key version. Like smoking a cigarette for two songs, you know?

Right. I tried to resist being last on your list, but no other man's gonna do. So I'm saving all my love for you. Cam, go ahead now. We all know this as a Whitney Houston song. Yeah, so obviously, you know, Saving All My Love For You, you know, as I scrambled to get on the Wikipedia page, the original version was a duet by Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr., BDJ, as I like to call them.

This version came out in the late 70s, not surprising. It has that breezy, I don't want to call them. This version came out in the late 70s. Not surprising. It has that breezy... I don't want to call it yacht rock. It's not really that. This sounds more like a 60s song than a 70s song. Yeah, well, I mean, that's a good call, Stu, because it was actually co-written by Jerry Goffin, a famous songwriter who did a lot of the...

wrote a lot of songs for the Supremes, and I believe Darlene Love, you know, We Love You Tomorrow, and the aforementioned Locomotion. I would suggest that Whitney Houston had in her camp, you know,

her mother was a well-known singer. Yep, Sissy Houston. Her aunt is Dionne Warwick. That's right. So, you know, growing up, Whitney Houston, you would have been exposed to all of these sort of songs that, you know, ended up sort of shaping that album.

On that note, though, Whitney, many, many, many, many of Whitney's biggest hits were covers. Not only this one, but the other one, which I was surprised, I only heard it, I heard a recent podcast about Whitney Houston in which it was revealed to me that the greatest love of all,

the greatest love of all is a... That's a sexual chocolate. It's a George Benson song. No, I know. It was Coming to America, the guy. Oh, right. The guy that sings the song.

I was just going to say, I mean, you know, Dionne Warwick, obviously part of the Psychic Friends Network, so maybe she sort of had a premonition of which covers with top of the charts for her niece. Now, here's an interesting list that you could put together. People who have famous aunts or uncles that maybe surpassed their aunts or uncles fame. You know, Whitney Houston would be one. Gary Sheffield, arguably, Dwight Gooden, maybe, maybe.

Oh, yeah, I think he did. Chavo Guerrero and Eddie Guerrero, maybe not so much. Okay. Well, I love this. Yeah, put that in the vault there. I just want to point out a couple more Whitney Houston covers real quick. Of course, everybody knows I Will Always Love You might be the definitive

moment for her. Of course, that was a Dolly Parton cover. A lot of people like Whitney Houston's I'm Every Woman. She did a big I'm Every Woman and of course that's a Chaka Khan song. I don't know if I mentioned it on this podcast, but I mentioned to somebody on Toronto Mic'd recently that there is a new hit by Whitney

Houston because she covered Higher Love by Steve Winwood for some Japanese B-side of a single, and then some DJ dug it out of the crate and played it, and it became a hit recently for a cover of Higher Love. I remember reading about that. It's sort of one of those, how did this get

to number one? But wait, Greatest Love of All, you already said that one. Yeah, the Greatest Love of All, you already said that one. Yeah, the Greatest Love of All, that would be just listened to? Oh. No, no, I'm saying like that was also a cover.

Yeah, that was also, that was a George Benson song and there's a lot of, I mean. How will I know if she really loves, if he really loves me? Not a cover. Yeah,

I mean, she, this was her bag, but she was well, well, what do you call that? Al Davis. She was very well managed.

Like she was a prodigy, right? So she's a teenager with this voice and this look. Al Davis? Do I have the right guy? Yeah. Clive Davis. Al Davis is the owner of the Raiders. I was thinking like, Al Davis.

Maybe he was in there too. We don't know. I mean, we'll never know. Come on. Clive Davis. Al Davis went to Whitney and said, just win, baby. That's what happened there. Yes, Clive Davis, who's by the way, somehow still alive. So I don't know how that's possible, but Clive is still with us. Now let's kick out the fourth jam from

Stu Stone. Clive of 85. Ha ha ha. I have so many things to say about this. Okay, Stu, before I pass the microphone over to you, I just want to say I just kicked out the Mama's and Papa's version of this for Peter Gross on an FOTM kick out the jam.

So I did just listen to this song very recently. The background stuff, the girls in the background, that is... Okay, you go. Stu, talk to talk to us talk to us let me just say this is one of those rare moments where we have discovered in the last couple weeks and i've actually been had songs disqualified for this very reason so i had to have a song with controversy in it and this was one of them how about this we talked about the doobie brothers what a fool

believes and how kenny logins, who wrote the song, originally released it. Michael McDonald co-wrote the song, but then put it with the Doobie Brothers. Boom. Became a bigger hit than the original. The original songwriter putting it out themselves, it rarely becomes a bigger hit

than the person who covered it. Now, this song right here is an interesting one and might get me disqualified if I can, but I don't know. This song was actually written by interesting one and might get me disqualified if I can, but I don't know. This song was actually written by John Phillips and Michelle Phillips. And they did not put it out until years later. They actually, the mamas and the papas, they're the ones singing background on the original version. They ended up putting it out themselves years later.

It became a staple and their coming out part, so to speak. Yeah, I have some thoughts just on a ruling on this i think stew in this case i'll i'll i'll talk to the board of directors i think we'll let it go because i mean you're right it was written by uh john and michelle and technically i think it was before they were the mamas and the papas um and this version i think was the barry mcguire version i'm assuming right right this is, this is Barry Maguire. Yeah. So I have something to say in that, you know,

the background we're hearing and the background singers, that's the exact same. So they must have just taken the master tapes or whatever and re-recorded the Barry Maguire part is what I'm guessing. That's right. Which was a good move because that's not the best vocals for that song. It's definitely better. The mamas and papas version is better.

I don't know if this qualifies. I don't feel it's in the spirit of what we're talking about here because it's sort of like when Prince releases, nothing compares to you. Like, you know, Prince does eventually release a version of nothing compares to you. And we all like,

like, so it's like, Oh, what do you mean? The Sinead didn't write that song or whatever but that's still the definitive version of Sinead O'Connor uh just like the Mamas and so I don't know if that's the same thing or not but there's something off with this choice except I will say I did not know this was ever released uh with someone else doing lead vocals

so are you telling me Stu Stone this song was released by Barry McGuire of course yes that's what I'm telling you. Okay, wow. I didn't know that. The Mamas and Papas version is so iconic. Well, interestingly... This version was released in 1965, and Lou Adler, a very famous producer,

produced this song as well. Oh, Al Davis, right? Yeah. Al Davis was there. He wasn't actually on the boards. By the way, this song, actually, this version of the song went to number four on the Billboard Hot 100.

Barry McGuire's version went to number four. America had a version of this song in 1979 as well. The Beach Boys put out a version of it. Lots of people recorded this song. Well, it's one of the great American pop songs. Absolutely.

Bobby Womack even released a version of this song. He did a song with the Gorillaz. Well, he's passed away now, but he did a song with the Gorillaz like late in his career, Bobby Womack. That was really cool. Most hip-hop fans, Bobby Womack. That was really cool. So if anyone... Most hip-hop fans know Bobby Womack from the beginning

of Back in the Days when I was young and not a kid anymore, but someday I say I wish I was a kid again. I was going to say, I almost had a Barry Maguire cover on the last episode. It was going to do DOA, the great Canadian punk band covering

Eve of Destruction that was an honorary mention so a lot of Barry Maguire content who's still with us and he's actually active on Twitter not to be confused with Jerry Maguire or Mark Maguire or his brother Mark

who for a short period of time had the single season home run record that's right and Canadian, I believe Canadian Todd McFarlane Mark, who for a short period of time had the single season home run record. And Canadian, I believe Canadian Todd McFarlane owns the ball. Not to be confused with Blue Jays backup catcher Reese McGuire.

Reese McGuire is the greatest beneficiary of the COVID-19 pandemic. Completely washed away. His little indiscretion of early spring training. I would say that the Houston Astros were an even bigger beneficiary than Reese McGuire. I think that's a fair comment.

On a serious note. Shout out to Lizzie McGuire. Oh, right. Sure. Right. Okay. Hank McGuire, too. Yes. Lower. Right. Okay. Hank McGuire, too. Yes. Lower at it.

Right. Mike McGurk. And Mark McGuire was a Cleveland Cavalier, right? Am I got the right guy? Yeah, that's who it was. Yeah, Mark McGuire. Yeah. Okay.

All the greats. All the greats. Here is Billy Squire. Did we talk about Deck McGuire? Right? Wasn't Deck McGuire a first-round pick for the Jays? Yeah. He had a cup of coffee, I think. A little cup of there a guy called dan mcguire was like dan versus dave

or something like there was an olympics 92 like reebok ad the pity two guys no that was o'brien dan o'brien it was o'brien versus uh dan pat o'brien the two dans pat o'brien right pat o'brien Pat O'Brien, I think. The two Dans. Pat O'Brien. Right, Pat O'Brien. Dan McGuire. Dan McGuire. No, it wasn't McGuire. Who were the two guys? There was two of them. Dan Jansen? Dan versus Dan.

Dave versus Dan. Okay, weren't they both Dans? One was O'Brien. Yeah, this was the decathlon. I remember this very well. And Michael Smith, I think. So what's the next track, guys? Okay.

I'm going to go off on a little side here. Let's listen to my fourth jam. This artist, of course, is in the Palma Pasta house as well, based on the earlier racial discretion. Okay. Okay. This was a big hit in Italy. Okay This was a big hit in Italy Not here That was coronavirus unfortunately

Hold on, hold on So this was by a gentleman named Umberto Tosi. Or Tazi? I'm sure Anthony Petrucci will correct me on that. But Umberto Tosi. Take a hit in Italy. I can actually translate this. I do speak Italian.

So I can actually translate what he's saying if you want. Yeah, go ahead. Gloria, you're always on the run now running after somebody you gotta get him somehow I think you've got to slow down but before you start to blow it I think you're heading for a breakdown so be careful not to show it I have a feeling that the English translation which I'm cheating and reading off of took liberties with the translation because it sort of rhymes pretty perfectly. And I find it hard to believe that translating lyrics from a different language into English would result in perfect rhyming schemes.

This brings up the interesting case where an English artist covers a song that was a hit in a non-English market. So, of course, their audience... 99 Red Balloons would be on that list, maybe? Yeah, of course, their audience... 99 Red Balloons would be on that list, maybe? Yeah, of course. And I love that Nina, 99 Luftballons original. I love it.

You're right. That's a great example. Great example. So, open gangman style, that was a big hit, but only recorded in Korean. I was going to say,

there's that song, Jet Boy, Jet Girl. You know that? Jet Boy, Jet Girl. Jet Boy, Jet Girl. No, no, but okay. Speaking of covers, and this kind of ties in nicely with Cam's next jam,

there is no rap. There's not a lot of cover stuff going on in rap. Not a lot. We're going to hear something similar. But there is that Lottie Dottie, right? With Slick Rick and who's the other chap? Certainly guys do other people's lines. No, homage, but not lines.

Of course, La Di Da Di, there's a lot of people who have kind of ripped off lines from that and paying homage. But in that, he sings that Japanese song that's in Japanese. I'm feeling sad and blue. You went away and now my life is such a rainy day. Right? And that's like a Japanese song in Japanese that was kind of covered

in Lottie Dottie, which was a big hip-hop hit in the hip-hop circles. But this song by Umberto Tosi was made famous by Laura Branigan. Of course, famous for the Neverending Story, I believe, as well.

She sang the NeverEnding Story. I thought that was Lee Ball. No, more playing again. The NeverEnding Story. Oh, dude. Oh, you're so wrong. You are so wrong, man. That was Lee Ball. I'm prepared to be incorrect on that,

but I would like to also point out that the St. Louis Blues took this Italian folk love song that was covered and made it their goal-scoring anthem that led them to the Stanley Cup just this past year. Sorry, this song? Yeah, he's right. Because Brett Hull sang it drunkenly at the parade. Yeah, this was their theme song.

Every time they score a goal, the St. Louis Blues score a goal, they play Gloria. Really? Yeah, Stu is their theme song. Every time they score a goal, the St. Louis Blues score a goal, they play Gloria. Really? Yeah, Stu is right about that, but dead wrong about the never-ending story. Like, I don't know where that's coming from. I was thinking of Flashdance, maybe. Did she sing What a Feeling in Flashdance?

No, that was... Yeah? Okay. Look at what you see. Who's this singing? Lee Maul. Who's that? He was the singer for Kajagoogoo. That's a guy singing?

Yeah. That could be a whole other episode. A song that you didn't realize a guy was singing. Wait, this is a guy singing? No. Cam, you're... No way. This is not a guy.

No fucking way that's a guy. Oh my god, guys. You're frustrating me. Lee Mal is a guy? Yeah. I'm with Stu on this one. Oh my god, it is. Check the chat window here.

No, I'm looking. Christopher Hamill is his real name. Totally a dude. Lee Mal. Oh, Lee Mal is an anagram of his last name, Hamill. Okay, that's... Be that as it may, I'm just saying it wasn't Laura Branigan. No, it was not Laura Branigan. I'm so fucking shocked by this. That's a guy singing?

Any relation to Mark Hamill, I'm wondering. This is almost like the big reveal in the relation to Mark Hamill, I'm wondering. But anyway. This is almost like the big reveal in the crying game. You know, you're ripped. Wow. That is absolutely mind-blowing. Like, we're learning lots today. I mean, this is a great topic, and I'll give credit where it's due to Stu Stone for suggesting this.

This is a good episode. This is shocking to me that that is a guy singing The NeverEnding Story. Are you kidding me? That blows my mind. When I heard Air Supply back in the day, I didn't realize

that was a guy singing. Like, don't dig in the night. It's unbelievable. For 10cc? No, I didn't love... Right, oh, yeah. Yeah, they had a bunch

of big hits at 10cc. Wow, I didn't love right oh yeah yeah they had a bunch of big hits 10cc um wow i love this uh i love this uh topic brandon did sing flash dance what a feeling and that's the soundtrack i was confusing her for i knew she was a soundtrack star remember he did confuse chris christopherson and robbie robertson um for good reason this is the first name as in the last name. Nobody's Nerfic. All right. I want to kick out Cam Gordon's final jam. By the way, before I kick it out, I know we've agreed this is a trilogy covers. You could easily talk me into extending that.

I really enjoy the cover stuff. But let's kick out Cam's final one. We'll circle back to it. Wow. Wow. What's wrong, Stu? I'm not a tough guy. This song, you know, this is borderline, okay?

This is borderline. Because, yes, the chorus is part of the Salt-N-Pepa song, What a Man, What a Man. But the lyrics in the Salt-N-Pepa song, it's more of a hip-hop iteration where you can sample a chorus and make your own verses. The Salt-N-Pepa lyrics are not here. Oh, I see what you're saying. This is like islands in the stream being used for like, yes.

Well, that's why that's a sample. That's a different category. In the cover. Hey, bastard. What's the name of this song we're listening to right now? What's it called? What a man. Yeah, that's mine.

Pepper. Peppa. Sorry, excuse me. Peppa. What a man. The cover. Sp, excuse me. Peppa. What a Man. It's a cover. Spinderella cut it up one time. Let me tell you something right now.

No, this is not a cover. They sampled this song and they lifted the chorus, but the verses are completely different. I'm going to cover you in pain if you don't want to. I get Stu's point. I'm thinking this might not qualify because really they take – I think that Cam has finally stepped in it. Hear me out.

Hear me out. They took – they did. They heavily sampled this song on What a Man. But there are salt and pepper lyrics that they originally composed. Although, Gloria, we could make the same argument that they changed lyrics there. No, that's clearly a cover. Different though. That's that's clearly a cover. Different though. That's pulling teeth at that point.

Don't try to spread some of this Cam dirt on me here. Yeah, Cam, I got to tell you, this is not a cover. This doesn't pass the sniff test? This is not a cover. So each of you chose four of your five songs for both of you were fine and dandy, and you each had one that I think is... Let's go to Wikipedia. In 1993, Salt

and Peppa recorded the song retitled What a Man an EP with... for Runaway Love, an EP with En Vogue. Well, Stu, maybe Stu... ...as the featured group. This is actually an En Vogue song featuring Salt and Peppa. Oh, right, that's right. Boy, you have

just gotten so many things wrong about this song. You were calling it a Salt and Peppa song and it's really an En Vogue song featuring Salt-N-Pepa. Oh, right. That's right. Boy, you have just gotten so many things wrong about this song. You were calling it a Salt-N-Pepa song and it's really an En Vogue release. You know what? Actually, I haven't. Okay? I remember the music video was pretty sexy. En Vogue are very sexy

women. They were in a bathtub, I want to say, doing some bubble bath gimmick. Oh, like Maestro's Private Symphony? Just like that, except with En Vogue. It was very similar to the video for Janet Jackson, That's the Way Love Goes.

Sort of the same environment, I think. Why was there an era where rappers... Wait, are you going to call Janet Jackson Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone? Is that a cover? No, that's a sample. Well, it's the same thing. It's not quite the same thing.

I mean, the extent of the sample, that's clearly a sample, the Janet Jackson example. The cam one might not be legal. Actually, it's up for review. I think it might not qualify. We're talking two songs that essentially have the same name. What a Man, What a Man.

Let's not get into semantics here. I think this passes. If your goddamn Mamas and the Papas bullshit for the second week in a row, I might add, passes. This one passes with flying colors. We'll let the FOTMs decide.

We'll let the FOTMs decide. Are you ready, Stu, for me to kick out the one that you... I want to say, everybody, I hope you're sitting down. Wherever you are right now, I hope you're sitting down. Big reveal. This is going to be one that's going to blow your fucking mind. Get all that good stuff out of the fridge. Yeah, Ian, sit the fuck down for this one, man.

This is going to be mind-blowing for all of you none of you knew this was a cover and the fact that it is a cover is mind-blowing now all the mind-blowing all of the people who are listening to the program right now they can thank me for this topic but they can also thank me for blowing their fucking minds by revealing this song that is going to win the whole competition when Ian chooses a winner at the end of this even though we're just playing a gentleman's game here yeah there's no winner an unofficial winner

I forgot Ian was here ladies and gentlemen may I submit for your consideration a following up on Cam's travesty of a bullshit choice. This is going to be unbelievable. I'm in love with you, girl, cause you're on my mind You're the one I think about most every time When you crack a smile in everything you do Don't you understand, girl, this love is true

Your soft, silky hand, long, sweet and thin That candle like a passion upon your skin Enlightens up my day and that's also true Together we're one, separated with two I know you guys are just so mind blownblown right now. But this is... Great choice. Now, here is an example of me being wrong. I just said that no rap songs get covered lyric for lyric. Here's a song where a rap song was covered lyric for lyric. Do you really think Milli Vanilli was a rap group?

Well, this is clearly a rap. The verses are a rap. In this song, I'm in love with you, girl, because you're all my mom. You're the one I think about most every time. That's a rap. Hmm. And this original version is a rap as well. Do you think anyone would ever consider Milli Vanilli a rap?

Well, maybe not. But this original version is clearly a rap group. And it'silli a rap? Well, maybe not, but this original version is clearly a rap group, and it's clearly a rap. Personally, I would say it's delivered in a rap-influenced Well, the group that put this out originally is a rap group.

Called what? New Marks. New Marks. And Kevin Lyles, who is a very famous music industry executive, was in that group. But it sounds a bit like New Edition-y. It sounds like that.

Well, this is like around that era when LL Cool J, I Need Love, it's like rappers were doing love shit. I will say, regardless of whether this is a rap or not, this is an inspired choice, Stu. The fact that this is a cover is insane. I agree. It's a great song. As if Milli Vanilli wasn't tarnished enough.

Not only did they not sing on their records, but the songwriters... I mean, it's just all dirty. Also, Milli Vanilli also covered another one of their songs from that same album. Was it a James Brown cover?

No, Blame It On The Rain was the best Milli Vanilli jam. It's a travesty for me to see. Tragedy, tragedy no it's a tragedy for me to see the dream is over and i never will forget the day i love first of all i was a huge millie vanillie fan i think i own that tape and cd like multiple times who was it uh they were fantastic millie van Vanilli and it's a shame because in 2020 that would have worked right right right right they had a great shtick

I know Sass Jordan shared a story of one of the guys has passed away sadly took his own life the other guy she encountered him in some Euro nightclub or something like that but great choice Milli Vanilli that's New Mark marks girl you know

it's true i did not know that was a cover but i because of it being millie vanillie i knew it was all a cover of something because they weren't doing anything they were just handsome guys right sure i mean i would say go i dare i say gorgeous well yeah i mean that's how they got the gig they were like male models like uh bike shorts how did like arista records like never like hear them sing in the room like when like how did that just get past everybody like they never had to sing do you know i think everyone knew everyone knew you think that was one of those like harvey weinstein everybody knew i just love that analogy like who wants to compare anything to harvey weinstein but okay um i'm gonna play my last jam here this is the one i imagine if millie vanillie came out today with

auto tune and all these things that could have made their singing fine they wouldn't have needed that like well or people or people just wouldn't have cared Yeah Agree Girl You Know It's True the Milli Vanilli version Is a great song Hey Cam is there any chance you got quieter As the episode went on is that even technically possible Well ever since he Ever since he

Put a song in that didn't qualify He's sort of You know, my, I'm just speaking at a lower register. How's, how's that? It's good. Bring it up.

Cause of course the one drawback is all of you come in at the same, in the same channel. So I can't like, unlike if you're on your own microphone, I can play with your own level, but you all come in the same channel. So if, if Stu's big allowed and you're not,

I'm really kind of SOL. Um, I'm going to play my last jam. This is my replacement jam this came in because Stu took my tainted love choice so I hope this will surprise you all I can't wait to find out

and I want to hear from Ian after this one because I haven't heard his voice in a long time and I just want to know whether he knew this was being covered here we go wow I didn't know this. No time to cut this noise. Wow, I didn't know.

Heart and soul. Correctamundo. I couldn't dream of turning her away. And if it got hot and hectic, I know she'd be electric. I'd let her take her chances. Is that Ozzy Osbourne on vocals? Sure. She gets what she wants because she's hard.

So she's hard. A lot of cowbell. I got a fever. And the only prescription is a gotta have more cowbell. Okay. That is a band called Exile. I actually need to google them to learn more about

them but exile is uh here it is it's a rock band and this was one of their songs heart and soul and uh it was covered famously by huey lewis and the news you hard-pressed to find a song that Huey Lewis covered of a rock band and Huey Lewis made it even rock harder. You'd be hard-pressed to find other examples of songs that Huey Lewis rocked harder on, and this would be one of those.

That's amazing. Although, there's parts of this song that are rocking harder than I expect them to, but I don't know if they have any hits. I'm looking now. They had a song in 1978. I can't say I'm familiar with it. Exile, I mean. It had a song called Kiss You All Over which was actually

a hit in the States. Can you sing a bit of it? I wanna kiss you all over. I'm starting to catch on. You're a bullshit artist. I just figured it out. Okay, Kiss You All Over. I'm just going catch on you're a bullshit artist I just figured it out okay kiss you all over I'm just going to dig that up what do you have to say about this one Cam I'm a pretty big Huey Lewis and the News

fan I wouldn't say this is one of my favorite singles by Huey and the gang yeah I didn't know this was a cover either. I did come across it when I was doing my research and it was like kind of a, it was like, ooh,

you know, kind of one of those moments. Exile, yeah, don't know much about them. What do you guys, do you guys like Huey Lewis and the News? Of course. Huey's not doing so hot these days. Well, you know, Huey's one of those rare,y's one of those rare instances where someone had to retire from singing because they lost their voice. Huey Lewis lost his voice and it never came back.

I didn't know that. Because Meatloaf lost his voice and it came back. Meatloaf. The rapper, the DOCC lost his voice And ended up becoming a big writer Influential writer in hip hop FOTM Ron Hawkins From lowest to the low

His voice disappeared for a while Of course Steven Tyler had two completely different voices That's true The dream on, Steven. Okay, do you guys recognize this song? I can't believe it's true. When you lay in my arms and you do the things you do.

You can see it in my eyes. I can feel it in your touch. You don't have to say a thing. Just let me show how much I love you. Yeah, I know this song. So this is the big hit by Exile, who recorded Heart and Soul. So this is the big hit by Exile, who recorded Heart and Soul. It seems like this band was probably like a third-rate American rock band.

You know, sort of not quite at the foreigner, REO Speedwagon level, but sort of just like a serviceable, lower-tier singles band. That's a vibe. More of like a C, more C.V.O.P. less Jimmy Snuka. Yeah. Yeah. I think so.

There you go. Bit of a tongue-in-cheek at, you know, certain years maybe. So gentlemen, I want to hear what Ian thought of this episode

since he's really the first outsider to hear this because it's, you know, obviously not published yet. Ian, how did we do this Friday? Fantastic.

Glad to be here. Who won? I don't want a winner. It takes away from the spirit. You all won. What song blew your mind the most? I like the Nirvana one. That was good.

Shocking blue. Now he's going to claim victory because of that. Way to good. Well, that's one of mine. Shocking blue. Okay. So, you know what? Now he's going to claim victory because of that. Way to go. He knows who's paying the bills here. Wow. Speaking of Ron Hawkins from Lowest of the Low who lost his voice, I say we exit with a little Lowest of the Low.

I want to thank you, Cam Gordon. You're the MVP MVP you kicked ass today that was so much fun and thanks again why is he the MVP let me finish here I want to thank you Cam Gordon you're the man but I especially want to thank Stu Stone

amazing performance I can't wait for next Friday but I especially want to thank Ian Service just because I got the, whenever I felt like nervous or anxious during this episode, I looked up at the video of Ian

and the pink around him and it soothed me. Like I felt good. What's next week's topic? Are you picking it? Or is Cam? i think cam starts these usually and then we it's cam's gonna come

next on cover related uh stay tuned for details on that check twitter early enough yeah we'll tweet about it uh twitter canada yeah twitter's twitter's all right uh and that

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