Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Steve Anthony KOTJ: Toronto Mike'd #309

Episode Date: February 27, 2018

Mike and Steve Anthony catch up before they play and discuss his ten favourite songs....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And right now, right now, right now it's time to... Take out the jams, motherfuckers! I'm in Toronto where you wanna get the city love I'm from Toronto where you wanna get the city love I'm a Toronto Mike, wanna get the city love My city love me back, for my city love Welcome to episode 309 of Toronto Mike A weekly podcast about anything and everything Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery A fiercely
Starting point is 00:00:43 Great Lakes Brewery! Woo! Yeah, give it up Great Lakes Brewery. A fiercely... Woo! Great Lakes Brewery! Woo! Yeah, give it up, Great Lakes Brewery! Woo! Don't take the brown acid! Woo! A fiercely independent craft brewery located here in Etobicoke. Did you know that 99% of all
Starting point is 00:01:00 Great Lakes beer remains here in Ontario? GLB. Brewed for you, Steve Anthony. Thanks very much. Did you know that 99, only 2% of the country lives that doesn't live around the border? Yeah, like 100 miles from the border or something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:18 If you look at a map of the population and then where other people live, we are a big empty country. It's all in Calgary and Edmonton, I think. I don't know. It's just looking at the map. It's like we are so much room, man. As long as you don't mind getting cold, come move here.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Come to Saskatchewan. And who else? Property in the 6. Toronto real estate. Done right. And Paytm, an app designed to manage all of your bills in one spot. Download the app today from paytm.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Who's Brian Gerstein? He is the gentleman behind propertyinthesix.com. He's a real estate broker with PSR. Very attractive man. He's got nice hair, right? Yeah, and he looks like his picture. He's thinking that the left side of his face is his good side.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I think it's just the left side of his face is his good part in his hair. Less good side of his face. Not that I know anything about those things. It's not my field of expertise. Do I have a good side? Let me tell you. I don't know if you've got a good microphone. Tilt your head back. Come here. No, microphone. Tilt your head back. Come here.
Starting point is 00:02:25 No, no. Tilt your head back. Not to the side. Jesus, did you actually do what I think? Wow. It's like a dead chance. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Wow. Your side is your left side. Okay. That's good to know because I do a selfie after each episode now and I need to know which side to show.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, I mean, from what I know, from the secret I know from paparazzi, your side is your left side. And you would know. They're probably at your home all the time.
Starting point is 00:02:52 No, I don't want to talk too much about that. Like they're waiting outside? Well, I don't know. No, they're hiding. They hide in my house. By the way, I haven't even finished
Starting point is 00:03:03 this intro yet. Hold on. I'm almost done. What did I say? So I told you to download the app from paytm.ca. I, I haven't even finished this intro yet. Hold on. I'm almost done. What did I say? So I told you to download the app from paytm.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com. This is the first time I've ever run out of song. That theme song, usually I've run out.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But I'm Mike from torontomike.com. And joining me this week to kick out the jams is Steve Anthony. It's Steve Anthony. I'm the boy in the box. I think the last time I was here, I told you that Corey Hart messed with me and he just knocked me over a bunch of times in this video. He just, like, we did it for four takes or five takes. Wait, you're not in the video.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I am in the video. Because you're the boy in the box. Correct, I am in the video, too. Okay, but you're also in the video. I didn't know it was in the video. It was extremely, extremely, extremely coincidental. He shot this in London, and I was in London at the time. And he either knew somehow or whatever, he got hold of me and said,
Starting point is 00:03:58 come to the set. And I went to the set of this, you know, the whole Asian thing going on, and he put me in. And it's really boring, but if you look at a point in the video, I'm in a bunch of times, but if you look at a point in the video where he is running, it's an overhead shot, he's running in slow motion, and you can see as he's running through this crowd of people, he shoulders one guy out of the way that goes spinning.
Starting point is 00:04:24 They have a turban kind of thing on their head. That's me. But we did it like four or five times, so he deliberately aimed at me harder each time thinking, oh, this will be like decades of fun. Every time I view it,
Starting point is 00:04:36 I'll realize and remember how much joy I took in bowling Steve Anthony over. That's fantastic. Now, so for everyone listening, you are here for episode 123. That's easy to remember. One, two, three.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And I'm going to read the description because people will want to go back and hear the deep dive with Steve Anthony. Mike chats with Steve Anthony about his years on Much Music,
Starting point is 00:04:58 his work at Breakfast Television and CP24 Breakfast, replacing Pete and Geetz on CFNY. That's an epic episode. His use of cocaine, so we talked about that. Yep. His broken hip and where Ann Romer went for a few months.
Starting point is 00:05:12 By the way. Which, by the way, we did not answer. It was a question. You are. But if I recall, I said, I have no idea. But you suggested something. I did suggest something. But again, I'm not saying I'm known to lie.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Extrapolate a few things from a false statement. I have a question now. Shut up is what you want me to do. No, no, I want to ask you about Ann Romer now, okay? No, no, no idea. is what you want me to do. No, no. I want to ask you about Anne Romer now, okay?
Starting point is 00:05:43 No, no. No idea. But, okay, you honestly have no idea because the first two times she disappeared from CP24 or wherever,
Starting point is 00:05:51 there was like a very public retirement party with cake and gift cards. You probably bought her cake or, no, you probably bought her like a keg of gift card and something,
Starting point is 00:06:00 like good luck, Anne? I don't know. Well, I don't know. But, yeah. But now she's gone. I don't know. But yeah. I do remember that. Now she seems to be not around. But I mean I have corresponded with Ann Romer and she has given me permission
Starting point is 00:06:13 to share with everybody that she has suffered from some voice ailment. Like an illness that took her voice away. I have her blessing that I would never discuss someone's health without their approval. She said she feels fine but the voice went away. But I her blessing that I would never discuss someone's health without their approval. She said she feels fine, but the voice went away. But I noticed they took her
Starting point is 00:06:29 beautiful picture off of the CP24 website, like the bio section. She says she's coming back to CP24. Honestly, you've never got an internal memo about this. You don't read your emails? I'm not lying to you. I don't know. Nothing. No. And I get everything. I work there. So anything that anybody else gets, I get. this you don't read your emails i'm not lying to you i don't know nothing um no and i get i get
Starting point is 00:06:45 everything like i work there so anybody anything that anybody else gets i get uh i i don't i don't know and now you make them feel all stupid and guilty no no no no you are i mean not saying you think you're probably saying i shouldn't feel guilty but that's not up to you that's up to me no i just wondered how they communicated this internally that they're like she's like next to you or right there with you, to be honest. You're, well, A and B. You guys are the faces of CP24. Well, that's very flattering for, and
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'm still feeling even more guilty now that I haven't reached out to her. But it was a privacy thing, but I didn't know there was any health issue involved. I really didn't. I mean, on that matter, you, because I know that you faithfully watch Gurdip al-awalia who is our news anchor he
Starting point is 00:07:30 disappeared for six weeks because his voice was shot like and they said if you continue you will permanently damage your voice so he had to go and he had to get a he had to get a vocal coach and a breathing coach and all the stuff because he was reading his news wrong and he was screwing everything up. So I understand, like, if you're there and you're just talking and talking and talking and talking basically for an hour at a time, it's going to mess with you. And if you're a broadcaster, you need your voice. That's right. That's rather important.
Starting point is 00:07:56 A hockey player needs his legs. That's your mainstay. Bread and butter. Now, reading that episode 123 description, I just had these flashbacks of how fantastic that conversation was. You tweeted a bunch of times, kind of in marketing it, saying, you know, watch this episode or that episode. I mean, listen to this episode or that episode. And you said that the one that we did, that one was pretty popular. Very popular and one of my personal favorites.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Thank you. I remember you brought coffee with you and you had me taste it and it had, I think, six sweeteners in it. That one was in particular. Now I just put the sweetener in my veins. Directly to your veins. Yeah, I just shoot up saccharin.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That's what I do. The aspartame. I just hope they don't have some study at some point. Theyly to your veins. Yeah, I just shoot up saccharin. That's what I do. Aspartame. I just hope they don't have some study at some point. They're not going to. Don't tell me. Don't go with this cancer thing. No, I know. There's no evidence that it causes cancer.
Starting point is 00:08:53 None. Thank you. I don't spread. There's no fake news on this program. Good man. Good man. I'm playing Never Surrender. Firstly, we do...
Starting point is 00:08:59 I did the commercials for these, by the way. Donald K. Donald was the... He owned half of Aquarius Records, which was Corey Hart's label in Canada and also he was the impresario for concerts across the country. This was before Michael Cole and CPI and Donald and I were friends because I was in Montreal and also Corey and he said do the national spots for me so like you're doing right here in a little tiny setup, I did the national spots. And Never Surrender was obviously a mainstay of that
Starting point is 00:09:29 because that was the big song for Boy in the Box. There we go. Enough about me. Let's talk about you. Boy in the Box. So when you told me the story that you're the Boy in the Box, I always, like, I trust you. You're a very honest guy and I trusted you.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But I did corroborate it. So I did talk to somebody who's good friends with Corey. So Corey's in Bahamas.amas Yes he lives in the Bahamas Sometime in the 90s he went to Bahamas to raise his kids or whatever and a good friend of his talked to Corey about the episode with you
Starting point is 00:09:57 and wanted to let me know Corey says that that is a true story you are the boy in the box I want the people to know you're not full of it. No, no, no, no. I wasn't lying. And I don't bring it up. You research that and I don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:11 But in fact, Corey did a final show. Sorry. He did another final show. He looks keep coming back. He did another final. Yeah, he did another final show in Quebec City two years ago, a year and a half, two years ago to which he...
Starting point is 00:10:32 Oh no, I know what it was. It was the Comedy Festival. It was the Comedy Festival in Quebec City and they had a musical component and he hadn't done anything like that and he hadn't talked to his French audience so he went and he did it. It was a small little outdoor venue. And he invited,
Starting point is 00:10:48 because he's really faithful to his English fans all over North America, he invited a bunch of them to come to the show and then to have an intimate Q&A with him afterward. Cool. And he insisted I come and he acknowledged me in the show in front of all these other people. So he interviewed me.
Starting point is 00:11:09 He said, no, you should fuck up, because I'm interviewing you. You're not interviewing me. And he had just been in Japan, and he asked me what I wanted. And I said, bring me a life-size Hello Kitty. life-size Hello Kitty. And then he said I couldn't find one life-size on stage or at this Q&A,
Starting point is 00:11:30 but he gave me a small Hello Kitty, which I still have. Very nice. Have you seen the movie nominated for, it's an Oscar-nominated movie starring Gary Oldman
Starting point is 00:11:42 as Winston Churchill, and I forget the name of that damn movie. Darkest Hour. Have you seen this movie? No. So I watched it. I watched it.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And it was really good. And in the song, like, you know, Winston Churchill makes one of those big speeches to rally the Brits or whatever. And in it, like, I think he says something like, we'll never surrender or something like that. Yeah. So when I hear it, I instantly thought of this song. What's funny, that's the commercials that I did nationally.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I used that speech. It's funny that you say that. We shall never surrender. Amazing. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Amazing. I want to talk to you about the press release that came out last fall, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:12:18 A press release came out from Bell Media about the, dare I say. That was a burp, by the way. I'm not off of coffee. Yeah, this is my mainstay. Coca-Cola, 710ml bottles of Coca-Cola Zero. Just so you know. It's not me, it's the Coke Zero.
Starting point is 00:12:35 When you do have to take a leak during this two-hour episode, just when you flush that toilet... We're playing music, aren't we? Yeah, but we'll play music, and then if you have to disappear during some of the music, that's cool. When you play the songs, I mean, obviously, tell me the format. Oh, you'll tell me the format later.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I'll tell you. But when I play the song, we're going to listen together so I can watch your face while you listen. Oh, okay. And then I'm going to fade it down at some point, like maybe less than a minute. Maybe a minute into it, I fade it down,
Starting point is 00:12:59 and I'll say something like, Corey Hart, boy in the box, because of course that's going to be one of your jams. And then when I... It's not one of his jams. It's not. When I fade that down, course that's going to be one of your jams. It's not one of his jams. It's not. When I fade that down, I'm surprised it's not one of your jams. If I told you about the fact that I'm the boy in the box,
Starting point is 00:13:11 that's why I chose this song. That would put it number one on my list if I was actually the inspiration for a song. Number one is Toronto Mike Theme, probably, by Ill Vibe. So then you're going to tell us why that song resonates with you. But if you do need to go to the washroom, when you hold down the flusher, hold it down for two seconds. I've got a problem with that flapper thing.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You have to hold it down for two seconds. Is that what it's called, the flapper thing? I call it the flapper thing. I don't know. I need some plumbing. Okay, so wait, wait, wait. Hi, is this Horner Plumbing? Yeah. I got some problem with my flapper thing.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Oh, yeah, we'll bring... What would you call it? We'll bring a flapper thing over. You know what size that flapper thing is? Well, it looks like a little flapper thing to me. Oh, you know nothing about flappers, do you? Oh, I'm the plumber. I'll come over and I'll fix your flapper.
Starting point is 00:13:52 What would you call it? You've never looked inside your toilet. No, inside. There's a thing that goes over the... Oh. Because inside is a flapper. No, the flushing handle. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I thought you're flushing. Okay, so what you're saying is when you flush, the thing comes off. Yeah, just hold it for two seconds yeah it's like a it's like a it's like a it's like a uh like a flapper right it's a flapper thing thank you that's okay so this press release from c from uh bell media it's suggesting that uh cp24 breakfast let me read it cp24 breakfast becomes tor Toronto's most watched local news morning program in all key demographics. Let me stop there and tell you that that is profoundly accurate, but doesn't boast enough. Well, there's more.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Okay, go ahead. CP24 Breakfast now attracts 12% more viewers than its closest competitor during weekday broadcasts. And it's not written here, but can we just acknowledge that that is Breakfast Television, your old show on the Rogers channel. Correct, of which I take part of my satisfaction in starting this TV show was the possibility that from zero, we would eventually overtake them,
Starting point is 00:15:15 and we succeeded in doing it. So I take great joy in that. Now, do you need more? Well, one last bullet here. Toronto's number one local breakfast show boasts double-digit leads over its closest competitor, which is breakfast television, in the adults 18 to 49, adults 18 to 34, and adults 25 to 54 demographics. So what will happen here as you spin things, we have it all the time,
Starting point is 00:15:48 have it all the time it's like um uh what's it what's it what's a what's a good analogy is um i mean because they'll obfuscate something from it uh they will say well i think something they they might say something like well we have and i'm not sure the numbers we we have more people listening but it means nothing if you have a bunch of two-year-olds and a bunch of 65 year olds and they happen to be greater number than those 25 49 all that stuff so of two-year-olds and a bunch of 65-year-olds and they happen to be greater in number than those 25, 49, all that stuff. So because two-year-olds don't buy stuff and 65-year-olds are retiring and soon to die. So no offense to anybody who's 65 is about to die, apologize. So yeah, so the key demos. We actually, that was the case far before this press release, That was the case far before this press release, but on a consistent level, to be able to say it without somebody coming and saying, oh, but it's not true because this week, they waited a long time. So this is in fact true far before this press release went out. The other great satisfaction is that Breakfast Television had those big, huge, 60-foot towering posters in Yonge-Dundas Square of the hosts.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And it said, Toronto's number one morning show. And I was just so happy when it just kind of, they had to take it down because they couldn't say that anymore, which is great satisfaction. I mean, as much as I like some of the people on that show, personally, it's... Do you like Kevin Frankish? I don't... You don't dislike him? No, you do dislike him. I have no feeling about Kevin Frankish.
Starting point is 00:17:15 If he's listening or ends up listening to this, Kevin, I got no feeling about you. You're indifferent to Kevin. Dina, I really like. I don't see her very often. And then the others are so new face that I've never met them, like I don't see her very often And then the others are so new-faced That I've never met them, so I don't know And Jennifer Valentine was
Starting point is 00:17:30 And continues to be a very good friend of mine And now she's on the mighty queue She is John Derringer Oh yeah, sorry, what they don't brag about here Is I've extrapolated those numbers The closest thing to population In this country would be Montreal but there's only 800,000
Starting point is 00:17:46 Anglos in Montreal, so it doesn't count. Vancouver would come next, but it's petty compared to the size of Toronto, though I've heard that they have a morning show on Global out there that does well. So I will extrapolate these numbers by sheer logic that if we're the number one morning show in Toronto, we're the number one morning show in canada so that's what that doesn't say because again they don't want to be the people press or these press releases don't want to be called on um inaccuracy which they somebody could probably you know try and pull something inaccurate about that but i will i will say that we have we have i am the I am one of the hosts and faces of
Starting point is 00:18:26 the number one television show in the morning in this country. And that is the fourth biggest media market in North America. So there you go. So congratulations to you. Thank you. That's exciting. I wanted to talk to you about that. That is great. And Pooja, last time you were on,
Starting point is 00:18:42 she was not on the morning show, but she's back. Yep. Right? So she's, and everything's, everything's. Peachy Keen, what a beautiful girl. Yeah, she's great. Awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I had Alan Cross here last week to kick out the gems. And we talked about what I call the CFNY Dark Ages, that period of time where it was at McLean Hunter was trying to sell it and they went kind of pop. I don't even know who the owners were then. I think it was McLean Hunter, and Rogers had to sell it, or Selkirk? Selkirk?
Starting point is 00:19:08 I can't remember exactly, but were you at CFNY during those dark ages, and is it true that you got, like people would kind of fight you about ruining the station? Maybe some of that, some of those CFNY diehards who didn't like to hear,
Starting point is 00:19:20 I don't know, Milli Vanilli on there? Okay, so I pete and geetz right okay so that's enough and i guess we're okay uh what ended up happening was there was a twist in in in some weirdness uh people who were in charge of the integrity of the artistic integrity of the station um got axed or got moved aside and it literally became a station run by salespeople and I think that I think he was the head sales guy the second head sales guy in the place all of a sudden became the goddamn program director a music director
Starting point is 00:19:58 and one morning I came in and George Michaels monkey was on my playlist. And I went, anybody who doesn't like me will hate me when I play this. So that, if you refer to the dark days. That's what I'm talking about. To me, those were the dark days. Those were the dark days. The dark days when, for some reason, everything that CFNY stood for
Starting point is 00:20:22 went right out the fucking window. They wanted to increase the mass listenership in order to increase the value of the station to sell it. So they basically one day, yeah, you're right. George Michael and Madonna, et cetera, showed up on the playlist. And of course, the diehard CFNY who remember the David Marsden spirit of radio era went nuts. That's right. And not only did they disappear, but then the people who didn't like CFNY because of what CFNY was didn't know that was playing, so they weren't coming. So it was stupid.
Starting point is 00:20:50 And unfairly, some of that stink gets stuck on you unfairly, and people want to beat you up on the streets. That's right. Terrible. Yeah, that's right. And I did my job as a radio announcer and a fan of music, and I don't know how much of a mockery I made of, I mean, I did what I was supposed to do, and I didn't say, I'm not playing George Michael Monkey.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I think I did, but I think I mocked it, which is counterproductive to the entire thing, but that's okay. And your co-host at the time was Freddie P. Well, that's not true. He wasn't a co-host. Sports guy. He was a sports guy, and he was more animated than Mary Ellen Benninger was, because she came in and did news.
Starting point is 00:21:28 But yeah, he was a foil. After I left and they brought Humble Howard in, that's when they had such a kinship that they decided to go with marketing, the two of them. So yeah, but Freddie was my foil. And see how small this world is that you mentioned the name Mary Ellen Benninger, who is married to Alan Cross.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It all comes full circle. Have you been contacted, here, a little serious moment here, and I'm going to use the word alleged, and I don't know any specifics, but have you been contacted by the Globe yet, Globe and Mail, regarding you-know-who? No, I haven't.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Another person that I work with, who used to be there in those days, asked me the exact same question. He said, have you contacted? They contacted you, and I said, no. He said, well, they did to me, and who else did they contact? They contacted people like John Gallagher, and anyone... Oh, yeah, John told me
Starting point is 00:22:21 that he got contacted, too. Oh, he went on Facebook and posted it, which sort of let the cat out of the bag, if you will, that there was something brewing. But Frank Magazine had a preview, if you will, and the allegations are that there's a Me Too thing that's going to come out about Moses. Moses Znamier? Am I saying that right? Neimer.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Neimer. Moses Neimer. It's Moses Neimer, but it begins with a Z. The Z is silent. Yeah, that reputation was rampant. I never went into his office or went up to his loft bedroom and saw him. Grabbing them cheats. It was as thick as cheese as a talked about thing during those years, the much music years and all that until he finally kind of lost
Starting point is 00:23:25 the whole basket of stuff to the chum people. So I don't know what's going to come out. I know some people who had non-disclosures about things that had to do with him. I don't know what those contained because they're all NDAs, but I know that people signed NDAs. Why four? So what I'm saying is I don't know. And if you ask me to speculate, I'd say there's probably a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:23:51 that's going to happen. Yeah. Actually, an insider thought it was dropping this past weekend, which would have made the timing interesting, but it did not drop because I checked the Globe and Mail website and there was nothing there.
Starting point is 00:24:00 But it sounds like it's imminent. They've been talking to everyone but you, I think, associated with Chum. Yeah, that's fine. I don't want to, yeah. I'll probably say no comment anyway, but it sounds like it's imminent. They've been talking to everyone but you, I think, associated with Chum. Yeah, that's fine. I don't want to, yeah. I'll probably say no comment anyway, but there you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:24:10 One more thing. And 20 years ago, you replaced Howard Stern in Montreal. That's correct. That's a fun fact. No, that was a fun fact. It was, you know, it was great. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:24:20 We did okay. I had a great time. It was great to go back and live home for a while. You know, in retrospect, the bad thing was everybody who hated Howard Stern, and there were many, stopped listening to show. And then the people who were listening to Howard Stern when I replaced him hated me because Howard Stern when I replaced him hated me because Howard Stern was being.
Starting point is 00:24:47 So again, same as the CFM Way dark days. It was like, it was a drag. But did people, did you get like, did people expect you to be some wild radio guy? Because that's not really your thing. No. When I heard you on 99.9. Yeah, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Well, see, when you're doing morning shows, it's a whole lot different, right? You have the liberty of being able to do stuff when you're doing a morning show, it's a whole lot different, right? You have the liberty of being able to do stuff when you're doing an afternoon show, regardless of it, unless they have the fortitude to support you to be doing wild and zany things, which at Q107, when I first got to Toronto, I was allowed to do completely,
Starting point is 00:25:17 I had free reign to do whatever I wanted to do. So when you get into a top 40 type format, like Mixed 99.9, and then you're doing the afternoon show, there's just no room for it. But yeah, the Montreal thing, we did some fucking crazy stuff in Montreal. And we launched a bunch, I won't get into it,
Starting point is 00:25:34 but we launched a bunch of careers from that because I used to bring interns in. I used to go to universities. You can name drop a few people. I really don't want to. Maybe you did an episode 123 and we can hear it there. Well, if you want to. But really don't want to. Maybe you did in episode 123, and we can hear it there. Well, if you want to. But I brought in interns, people I thought were really talented,
Starting point is 00:25:50 and gave them opportunities and put them out in field work and put their stuff on the air. And from that, they were able to launch their careers. So that was a great, satisfying thing from that. And, yeah, so we did a lot of street stuff. We did a lot of breakfast tours, as they say. We used to show up at people's houses and do their show from there. And we'd have circus people at people's homes.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And we did a lot of crazy stuff. Did you read John Gallagher's book? I have, yes. You're in that book. I know. And I got, I haven't, I think he wants me to buy one. Fuck him. No, really. Like, John, you're expecting me to fuck him. No, he's going to buy one. Fuck him. No, really.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Like, John, you're expecting me to fuck him. I had a digital copy because I had to read it so I could give him a quote as to what I thought of it. So I don't know. Did it end up in the liner notes? Do you know? I had it and I lent it to the guy at Great Leagues Beer. Actually, he's got my copy.
Starting point is 00:26:43 But I did read it. So here's this little story I just want to ask you about. Okay, so first of all, you lived with John Gallagher. A number of times. Andy Frost lived with this guy. Did this guy ever, like, did he just... Room with people? He just roomed with people?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I guess he did until he bought his house. Is he the Cato Kaelin of Toronto media? Yeah, no, he paid his way. Notoriously... A notoriously messy man. And he knows I've told this story a number of times. So he's living with me in the annex. And both of us are doing mornings. I'm doing breakfast television. He's doing Q107.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And his bedroom was kind of like, I'm trying to, the analogy would be, he took all his boxes of stuff, clothes and whatever, and he kind of pushed them into the room, and then he put a futon down on the ground, and then he took one of those Wile E. Coyote acme bombs that mess things up but don't really blow things up
Starting point is 00:27:50 and threw it in, closed the door, and it went BOOM! And everything ended up everywhere, and that's how he lived. So I'm at work, John's at work, my dad is visiting, he's in the living room, he hears the alarm going off and going off and going off and going off and going off and going off and going off.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And he's like, okay. He gets up. He goes in, quietly opens the door. John's gone, obviously. And then he creeps. He goes across the floor. He turns off the alarm. And he goes back out.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And then half an hour later, John phones the house. My dad picks it up. And he says, Mr. Anthony, can you do me a favor? Sure. He says, can you go into my room and wake up my girlfriend? Because she obviously
Starting point is 00:28:31 slept through the alarm. So somewhere in that room was a woman. A human being was in there. My dad stepped over without ever realizing there was a person in there. So that's a kind of...
Starting point is 00:28:48 And that woman was... But that's where I'm... Okay, so here's the story Steve told me. I have to ask you about it. Steve who? Did I say Steve? Yeah, you said Steve. No, John Gallagher.
Starting point is 00:28:56 You're Steve. I should know that. Are you Steven with a P-H or a V? Yeah, P-H. Oh, my brother too. There we go. So, okay, so he tells a story that, you know, he's living with you, and into the kitchen after a good night of fun is meet Sue.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Oh, yeah. Well, I don't want to talk. You don't have to. I don't want you to. But he's put this already out in the public domain, just so you know. That's the kind of, I mean, I like talking to you, but. No, you want to keep that private. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:24 She's got, you know, a family. Oh, shit. Not that you, but... No, you want to keep that private. Yeah, yeah. She's got a family. Not that you're necessarily going to listen to this. She's got a husband and family, and she's still in Montreal doing that stuff. I will tell you this, that I was a huge fan of hers, and she was, I believe, a fan of mine. Leave it at that.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Leave it at that. You've got to talk to this John Gallagher, because he puts stuff in the public domain that maybe isn't necessarily appropriate for public consumption. That's not out of character. I think at some point he told me what much music was paying you, but I won't
Starting point is 00:29:55 put that on here. But he does talk quite a bit. Let me ask you quickly about your social media engagements because I follow you on Twitter and lately I've noticed you become more active and maybe even a little more angrier with the state of the... No, okay, now wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I make no effort to get followers and never have. They're there, they're not there. I don't care. The only reason I was ever using Twitter was because I get my news from it because it's instant.
Starting point is 00:30:29 I use it as a source for my product, which is me. And recently I have turned on something called, I don't know if you know what it's called, If This Then That, IFTTT. Okay, so basically it's a channel hub where you can say, okay, if I'm on Facebook and I do this, then I want Twitter to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Or if I want this or Tumblr to do that. You just kind of set it up. You're doing it on Facebook, but it's showing up on Twitter, and that's the big difference. That's the difference. So you've always been active on Facebook. Now it just goes right to Twitter as well. And then if there's a picture involved,
Starting point is 00:31:05 I will post it on Instagram, and it'll automatically go to the other two sources, which happens. But the problem with social media, of course, they don't talk to each other, and somebody's handle on Instagram is not the same as on Facebook. So if you do that automatically,
Starting point is 00:31:21 you've got to go back to Facebook anyway and edit it to get the handles in so the people who are the people in the picture actually automatically, you've got to go back to Facebook anyway and edit it to get the handles in so the people who are the people in the picture actually know that you've put them up. Let's play some music because I've got to take a piss very soon. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I got a question from a guy named Hamish Grant, but I don't know if it's fair here. He says, can you ask Steve Anthony if he had some kind of minor nervous tick back in the Much Music days? I wanted to kill so many times listening to him crumple or snap his cue cards or flip pencils around, etc., etc. He was a team player, but damn, all that collateral damage in the mic was hard to listen to. That is absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:32:01 The nervous twitch, I guess. Do you know people who tap their heel all the time? Sure, of course. Okay, so with my papers rattling my papers, that was what I did. And it's not like I did it deliberately
Starting point is 00:32:17 to bug people, but it became one of those things everybody knew me for. Just I'd like rattle my papers. I'd shake it like that. Right, I can see you doing it right now. Yeah, that was it. Instead of the knee going, it was the paper. So yeah, Hamish, you're right, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Sorry about that. And fuck yourself. Go fuck you, Hamish Grant. Yeah, fuck you. I know you got to pee, so I want to get to the first jam, but I need to give you a gift because you came all this way.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Oh, yes. This beer is yours. Well, thank you. And you don't drink. I do not drink, but I do have give you a gift because you came all this way. Oh, yes! This beer is yours. Well, thank you. And you don't drink. I do not drink, but I do have people over at my abode that do drink, and they will really enjoy this Great Lakes Brewery Blonde Lager. Because you're blonde. You're a blonde
Starting point is 00:32:57 lager. Pompous ass. And you're a pompous ass. See? Look at this. Is that the lake effect? Johnny Simcoe. Okay, that that the Lake Effect? Johnny Simcoe. Okay, that's a new one. Johnny Simcoe. That's right. Simcoe Day.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I got a Canuck Pale Ale. Staple. I got a Harry Porter. Oh, my God, how innovative. And another Harry Porter in a pint bottle. In a bottle. Cool, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Please enjoy. Okay. And you're going to need to pour this beer into a pint glass when you serve it to your guests. I will do that. There's a pint glass I'm giving you here. Well, I'm giving it to you, but it's from Brian Gerstin. Well, hi, Brian. We talked about you earlier.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I like your hair. Brian recorded a message for you, and at the end of this message, he's got a question for you that I'm curious about myself. Okay. So let's listen to Brian. Property in the six dot com. Hi, Steve. So let's listen to Brian. Propertyinthe6.com Hi, Steve. Hi.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Brian Gerstein here, sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Mic'd. If you or any of Mike's listeners want in on another one of PSR's exclusively sold condo projects, have I got one for you. Today is launch day for 1181 Queen Street West. It is located at Gladstone and will be near the site of the new Queen West Transit Hub and ready in three years. If you want to live there yourself or use it as an investment property, both are great choices. I have renderings, floor plans, and pricing. Call or text me at 416-873-0292 to get access to it as it will sell out quickly this weekend. Steve, I was living in Montreal at the time when you were on the air at CKGM with Ralph
Starting point is 00:34:32 the Birdman Lockman, who had a blast on air with all of his zany characters. Any classic Ralph stories? And how many times did you go to the Barbie barn with Ralph and light up a cigar? Well, thank you very much for that question. Ralph Lockwood was, for those of you who don't know, because this is Toronto mic'd, he was as legendary as Tom Rivers was on the original CFTR Top 40 station here in town. He just owned the city. top 40 station here in town. He just owned the city.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And Barbie Barn, which again has no other franchises except two restaurants in Montreal, is the top rib in the world. I don't give a shit if anybody says anything or better than that. There are fewer and fewer things for me to go back to Montreal for.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I got family and I got four food groups. One of them is Barbie Barnes. I will go back. I will travel just. In fact, saying this, getting back to Barbie Barnes to sell it, to pitch it, I actually paid out of my own pocket two different delivery services, like UPS and FedEx or something. I phoned them and said, go to Barbie Barnes and get a whole hog,
Starting point is 00:35:41 which is the whole thing, and get it to me here as fast as you can. So it was a competition which they did not know about. So they had to go, hot pack it, get it on a plane. Who won? Can you tell us? I don't remember. Oh, that's amazing. All I know is that I had two full racks, which is like 14 ribs on each 28.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I think I ate them all myself. Anyway, no, I don't have any stories like that because Ralph literally, I was doing afternoons, literally vacated the building at 9 o'clock in the morning. Shoo, gone. You know, so if I ever saw him, it was because I was into the station sometime between, you know, 6 and 9 when he was on and say hi. But he's busy doing his show. So I have no answers to you.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Sorry. No Ralphie stories. I love the Montreal stuff because I don't know that stuff. So just hearing about this guy who was a Tom Rivers of Montreal is pretty cool. I like hearing that shit. Paytm.ca. Steve, Paytm is a free online bill payment service that helps manage all of your bills in one spot. You can pay utility bills, mobile, phone, internet, gas, property taxes, education, credit cards, insurance, and rent using your credit card or bank account.
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Starting point is 00:37:12 Steve, are you ready to kick out the jams? Yes, I'm ready to kick out the jams. guitar solo Darling, I know I'm just another head on your pillow If only just to let go Let me hear you lie just a little Tell me I'm the only man that you ever really loved. Honey, take me back in my memory, back when it was all very right. So very nice. So very nice Here, darling Stands another bandit Morning you
Starting point is 00:38:34 In a natural light And come and it will Day to night's like a wheel The Doobie Brothers' Real Love. Yeah, I would... This is not one of their... recognized as one of their huge hits, but I think it's one of the best songs they ever, ever did.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Mike McDonald, obviously, he just took over the Doobie Brothers and Patrick Simmons and whatever the other guy's name was. We'll just kind of put it in the background. It's just wonderful. So the reason this is one of my favorite songs is I used to listen to what's made me survive being away from civilization
Starting point is 00:39:14 when I was in Simmons, Ontario. My first job was listening to WLS in Chicago on Skip. So basically at night, you can hear AM radio stations from all across North America. And WLS was clear channel 89 as I said. It was like the priority 89 frequency. Everybody else had to
Starting point is 00:39:31 take care of them and guard themselves. So I could listen to it. Chicago, Halloween, Timmins 600 miles north of Toronto and I was getting ready to leave Timmins to go to my next job. I'd broken up with my girlfriend but she was still there. I was leaving friends that I'd made in the last year and a half,
Starting point is 00:39:46 and I was listening to WLS, and this was the first time I ever heard this song, and I was recording, like, taping these guys, taping WLS and people's breaks all the time. I just remember one of my favorite shocks introducing this song, but real love, and I recorded it. We couldn't get that stuff,
Starting point is 00:40:00 and finally, when I got back to Civilization, I bought the record, and I've been in love with it ever since, and that's why it's here. Beautiful. Hey wait a second, turn it up, turn it up, turn it up right here. Michael McDonald is my favorite vocalist ever. Chugging up the hurt Living with us
Starting point is 00:40:26 But we won't live long enough to know That we're turning over now Just let me in and relive Mandatory key change there, by the way. Another one coming up. I love it, man. Mandatory key changes? You ever heard of that before?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Mandatory key changes. Mandatory key changes. You ever heard of that before? Mandatory key changes. Mandatory key changes is a term that I've been using for years. When a song starts to get boring you just change the key. Mix it up.
Starting point is 00:40:55 And all of a sudden it becomes a different song so you can make it longer. There you go. And you were listening to that station you were listening to was a Chicago station
Starting point is 00:41:03 right? Because this guy also sang in Chicago, right? No. No? No. I'm confusing my doobie brothers with Chicago. He was at that time, about like 1980, 81, 82. He was the most renowned background singer there was in all of music.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Everybody wanted to get a piece of him because he just had the chocolate velvet voice. Steely Dan and Nick Kershaw, and everybody was using him. Anyway. Very cool. You ready for another jam? Yes. See, more cowbell. And clapping. Cowbell and clapping is cool. This is Coldplay. It's a great song. This is Coldplay Adventure Playtime. This is, to me, the absolutely perfect pop song.
Starting point is 00:42:26 It has everything, great vocals, it's happy, it's got a guitar that makes you want to, regardless of what you're doing, just kind of tap your foot. It does the breakdown thing where the music is right here and they break it down and bring it back up with all cool songs kind of do. And the video is monstrously great, I don't know if you ever saw it, but they did live capture, live motion capture of all of the band. And the band are all monkeys. And so it's great. Here we go. Show us a break down.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Would you believe you're not the first jam kicker to bring Adventure of a Lifetime? No, I didn't know. The owner of Great Lakes Brewery, Peter Bullitt, also had Adventure of a Lifetime on his jam list. Cool.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, it's not... And the live show I saw was one of the most fun, big shows I've seen. Is that the Dome show? The Open Dome? Yeah. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So Damien Cox, I've heard of Damien Cox. Yeah, yeah. He was at that show with his daughter. So he picked a Coldplay song because he loved that show so much. Coldplay was also kicked out by Sofia Yurstakovich, who you can see on CBC doing sports. Yeah, great. I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:53 they've got a live show now, and so pat. It was a little, you know, kaleidoscopy in that sense, like lots of colors, but they, during their last tour a bunch of years ago, they were the ones who originated giving you these watches, and they were, each of them had LED lights in them, some yellow, some blue, some green, whatever, they were synced
Starting point is 00:44:18 differently, so when you look out at the crowd, they have somebody hitting a button and changing the light show, so the entire audience is a light show. Green over here, red over there, patterns over here is all part of the show. That's cool. Brilliant. And they did it again
Starting point is 00:44:29 and other people were doing it as well but they did it at this last show which made it even better but they originated a bunch of years ago
Starting point is 00:44:35 in the first tour or that tour a bunch of years ago. That's cool. Yep. At the Olympics I saw they use drones now They just put up drones
Starting point is 00:44:46 And make these Decorations in the sky Or whatever Well you know For those of you worried About the Skynet And
Starting point is 00:44:55 And you know The evil robot Overlords Coming I would say To calm down Because The zombie apocalypse
Starting point is 00:45:04 Is happening Way before that. Right. Don't have anything to worry about technology. There'll be none of that. See ya! See ya! Woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo-hoo, woo- oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, again right now? And probably a third time I don't just be as happy. Okay, I'll play it three times. No! Did that once, by the way. Tom Cochran, I'm proud of this one.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Tom Cochran's Life is a Highway. We just got the video and I played it nine times in a row. It was the only video I played. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah, nine full times in a row. This is another one. This is Fleetwood Mac called Big Love. You hit the post there I did So this is Lindsey Buckingham And
Starting point is 00:46:32 For those of you who don't know How great a song writer And a guitarist Lindsey Buckingham is And you don't know nothing He's one of the He's one of the Great guitar players
Starting point is 00:46:43 It doesn't show It never really kind of showed In Flea with Mac very much. But when I interviewed him on Much Music during this, I asked him about this. It's also this kind of very, very cool music video at one point, but basically what's happening, if you haven't seen the video, is a camera is moving forward, it's passing through doors and windows and on the peripheral is the band. So imagine it's moving forward, it's passing through doors and windows and on the on the peripheral is the band. So imagine it's moving forward and you see
Starting point is 00:47:09 Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks right here and it passed the camera goes past them and through a window and it comes to the window and now they're out in the field and see other band members and it goes down a hole so basically that's it and then at the end of the song when it has this drum beat it goes all the way backwards so it's like fast it starts coming all the way backwards through every single scene that you saw before. Super cool video. And this, listen, turn it up here.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Get that. And the high one, right here. Right here. Get that. So I said, so was that Christine McVie or was that Stevie Nicks? He goes, that was me. So this song basically, other than the drums, it's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. It's got a lot of different things. So I said, so was that Christine McPhee or was that Stevie Nicks? He goes, that was me.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So this song basically, other than the drums, which is obviously Mick Fleetwood, I think this is like John Lennon going in and doing an entire Beatles song by himself, but then it's the Beatles. Or Paul McCartney going in and doing an entire Beatles song by himself and calling it the Beatles. Right, like Golden Slumbers or whatever. Like John's in the hospital from his motorcycle crash or whatever. Right, exactly. And then he just goes and does it all.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So I think, other than Mick Fleetwood, this entire song was Lindsey Buckingham. But I only found that out when I asked about, like, was that Stevie Nicks? He goes, no, the whole thing was me. I like how you started with real love and then here we are, Jam 3, and it's big love. Oh my God, I never made big love. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I never made that. Lots of love in your heart. You're a loving man. Okay. And then, again, the end of it, you can imagine what it was I was doing. It's this great drum fill that Nick Fleetwood does here, which will turn up here. I think it's getting near the end here. Yeah. up here. I think it's getting near's coming here. Actually, I think I asked them if they were happy.
Starting point is 00:49:10 No. Well, that's a Guns N' Roses song. Okay, sorry. The camera's coming back for the new song. Don't touch me there. Don't touch me there. Don't touch me there. Don't touch me there. Don't touch me there.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I seem to be like... I seem to like that guitar stuff. Just realizing that with my choices. There's a Guns N' Roses song on Appetite for Destruction where definitely in the background you can hear Axl fucking one of the band members' wives or girlfriend. I think girlfriend, actually. And that's infamously made it to the final. What an interesting...
Starting point is 00:50:00 That's a fun fact for you. What an interesting fun fact. Thanks very much. Let's kick out, on that note, let's kick out another jam. Oh, not that one. This one. Oh, okay. I have no idea why.
Starting point is 00:50:13 This is like, um, this is Disclosure, Latch. Sam Smith is doing vocals on it, and there's a bunch of different versions of this one. I think there were versions of this before that weren't nearly as good but it's just got how you feeling today I'm down play that disclosure by latch and you just kind of go and I'm not world is better I thought it was
Starting point is 00:50:41 The world is better than I thought it was. That's the power of a good jam. Oh, it is. Like this latch is kind of like, this closure is kind of like Daft Punk-ish type of thing. They're more producers than they are anything else. I mean, you know, obviously these days when they say producer calvin harris he's like a producer but you know a dj whatever you want to call him he writes a song of music and puts it all together but it's strange how now we you bill it to the we never used to build a song to the producer or whatever but that's a big thing
Starting point is 00:51:20 now like right this is from calvin harris but he not on the track. I don't think the term producer works for these guys anymore, like Disclosure and Daphne and stuff like that. A producer was people who sat behind a recording board and decided that this would go that way, that would go that way,
Starting point is 00:51:39 and we need more drums and make all those creative decisions when you're recording an artist. These guys are the artists. and then we need more drums and make all those creative decisions when you're recording an artist. These guys are the artists. You know, the other thing I like about it is the syncopation is a little weird on this one. It's like it's not directly on beat.
Starting point is 00:51:54 It's like off by an eighth of a beat. It's delayed. I'm so in capture Got me wrapped up in your touch Real so enamored Hold me tight within your clutches How do you do it? You got me losing every breath What did you give me You got me losing every breath. Why did you give me to make my heart beat out of my chest?
Starting point is 00:52:40 You know, when I walked in here, I felt like shit. Now, I feel good. See how that gets accomplished with this song? There's nothing like a good tune. A good mixtape to put you in the right mood. I think that's a Beastie Boys line. Yeah. They were assholes. Were they? That makes me sad. Maybe they matured as they were the
Starting point is 00:53:00 assholes at the beginning? I don't know them well uh to know that there are anything else but assholes they they came on and they just were like just being deliberate oh this is with erica m right no oh to me to you okay yeah they're just douchebags it was like you know you know you're not so cool. Like, if you're pretending to have a hard time being here for this interview, then fuck off.
Starting point is 00:53:32 But it was like, yeah, kind of like record company makes us do this and, you know, not really paying attention and thinking they're funnier than the rest of the room. They might not feel that way, but I got to tell you, the times I interviewed them, they were that way. I think, like, the beginning when they were like frat boy rapper guys doing like fight for your right to party and all that that they they did have that persona like frat boy dicks or whatever but then i think i don't know i never met them as their career progressed
Starting point is 00:53:58 they matured if you will and they became more politically aware, and then they started, I hope, to stop being dicks. But I don't know. I know what my experience, and I'm a fan of the music, but, you know, dick, dicks, douchebags. Steve, let me tell everybody that you, sometimes you, first of all, it took a long time to get this list out of you. Like, we worked for weeks, I begged you.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I was just busy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for... You made your deadline, though. Yeah. Well, you said I need it by three. I gave you a specific deadline. And I had it.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I know that I fired it to you at 2.57 yesterday. You said I need it by three. Not over a lie. I looked at it. When I got it up, I went, oh. Well, you do know, like, days earlier, you said, I promised to get it to you at 2.57 yesterday. You said they did it by three. Not a river lie. I looked at it. When I got it up, I went, oh. Well, you do know, like, days earlier, you said, I promised to get it to you this afternoon, and it never came.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I've been busy. But for a couple of the jams, you said this or that. Okay? So whenever, for two of them, you said this song or that song. Whenever you did that, I picked the first song. Okay? So that's this one here. So let's kick out another one. Do you notice that there's a theme running through my choices of music?
Starting point is 00:55:41 Again, when you say you want 10 favorite songs, that's impossible. I've got like 5,000 songs. my choices of music. Again, when you say you want 10 favorite songs, that's impossible. I've got like 5,000. But I'm just thinking now when I'm hearing that,
Starting point is 00:55:48 just kind of the bass line thing. No, there's definitely a common thread weaved through here. Yes. And that's why I like this. By the way, I know you haven't listened
Starting point is 00:55:58 and I won't put you on the spot. I know you haven't listened to any Kick Out the Jam episodes. But what I like about them is I find I get to know a lot more about somebody when we listen together to their favorite songs and discuss it. Like, I'll learn more about you today than I did when you did the deep dive back a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I will not tell you where the bodies are buried. Fuck you. Like, first of all, you'll tell me, is that your natural hair color now? Are you assisting your hair? Oh, I've always been. Well, I'll tell you what. Look at my eyebrows. I do not dye my eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Because your beard has white in it. Yeah. Now, you seem white. Well, I do, yeah. Only because until about an hour ago, I had white in my beard
Starting point is 00:56:36 and I got white. Is this white or blondish? Oh, you know, maybe. It looks whitish to me. We're going to take a picture and people can vote. Does that mean it's grayish? It means the pigmentation has disappeared on you.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yeah, I don't know. But you're saying that hair looks great. My hair is like blonde, beige kind of thing. Always has been. Do I assist it? Yes, occasionally. Because it looks really good. Thank you. Yeah, occasionally. Because it looks really good. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, occasionally what I will do, especially during the winter, is I will get some support. And how often do you let the, like you have a bit of that George Michael thing going on? I haven't had a beard. The reason I did this was because I was away on vacation in January. And then when I got pneumonia while I was on vacation in January in Mexico, then I came back and I had to take time off because of the pneumonia.
Starting point is 00:57:29 So I just let it grow. And then the day before I went back to work, I went, hey, screw it. I'm wearing it. So that's why it's been on. It's supposed to come out tomorrow or tonight,
Starting point is 00:57:37 tomorrow, something. You want to do it together? I'll record it. No, my wife wants. It doesn't really matter. But well, you don't have a beard trimmer to take most of it off first, do you? No, you don't. So we're really matter, but well, you don't have a beard trimmer to take most of it off
Starting point is 00:57:45 first, do you? No, you don't. So we're not doing it here. Anyway, about Sade. Yes, please. Three is taboo. As you can tell, just because it's so cool, the rhythmic pull, kind of holding somebody close and dancing, and it's, again, feel-good stuff. I was,
Starting point is 00:58:02 it's interesting. CFNY offered me as a morning, sorry, CFNY as a morning man offered me to go to Bahamas on a field trip. Kind of come down, spend a week, we'll show you everything, file a report back with CFNY, three minutes for Monday to Friday, Monday to Thursday, and then five minutes on Friday trip, blah, blah, blah. I was working on my music at the time. I said, look, if I bring a camera guy down with me, then I can do a TV special on it. But we didn't have a camera person,
Starting point is 00:58:29 so I just brought my best friend down, and he had a Video 8, which was very rare, a Video 8 camera. So we went around, and we actually did a great job of putting the special together. We went to Compass Point Studios, and that was where Sade recorded this album, and they took us across the street by the sand
Starting point is 00:58:45 in this, you know, like the sand, like by the ocean and there was a fire pit and we started talking about it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 He goes, yeah, man, I was here listening to them write most of this album sitting around this fire pit for this thing
Starting point is 00:58:59 and I went, wow, that's just awesomely cool. So it just impacted me. And this jam was, this was a massive hit. Like, I remember it was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah. So that's a story about, I mean, I like the song, but there's a story behind the song. I don't know. I love the context is everything. Was that your first bout of pneumonia back in January?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yep. You know, I had my first bout of pneumonia in January, this past January. I don't want to do that but so many people are getting sick just this, whatever flu
Starting point is 00:59:30 is going on here. Yeah, it's like a gateway, right? The flu is, you get the flu and then it sort of, the infection comes in
Starting point is 00:59:34 your lungs through this. But so many people are like stuck. My father-in-law is like, I think he's had it for six weeks or something.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Oh no. It's a bullshit thing. Anyway. Yeah, no, it's no fun. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Ah. This is Feist. I always think after you're gone. When I realize I was acting all wrong. So selfish. Two words that could describe all the actions of mine when patience is in short supply. We don't need to say goodbye We don't need to fight and cry We could hold each other tight
Starting point is 01:00:47 Tonight Okay, so Huge fan of Leslie Feist The tour You can find the video For the movie for this Of this, the reminder tour It's mostly a concert thing
Starting point is 01:01:03 But it's wonderful So seriously talented This is the same album movie for this, the reminder tour. It's mostly a concert thing, but it's wonderful. So seriously talented. This is the same album that had 1, 2, 3, 4 on it, which became her biggest hit because Apple used it in a commercial. But this is like one of the best songs. And when she was on tour for this album,
Starting point is 01:01:19 she came, I was working at Mix 999 at the time, and I was given some liberties, by the way, with the afternoon show. I mean, it just couldn't be zany like a morning show. So she came in and we recorded this song, just her doing this song by herself without the background vocals, etc. And it was just, and I still
Starting point is 01:01:36 have the recording of it, it was just mesmerizing. She's got that beautiful vibrato in her voice. Of course, she's not hard on the eyes either, which kind of helps. But if she was a really crappy singer, but really good looking, I probably wouldn't be saying the same thing. No, you need both.
Starting point is 01:01:52 But anyway, what's missing, and I like the live version I have better than this performance, because this has a bunch of guys doing background vocals on it. So if you turn it up, you can listen to the guys doing the... They're doing the, they're doing the ooh, ooh. We need to fight and cry and though we ain't very good we could hold
Starting point is 01:02:13 each other tight tonight tonight tonight tonight tonight Tonight Tonight Tonight Tonight Tonight Tonight It's just great.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Such a simple song, man. Awesome. Beautiful. Just awesome. And I've noticed your jams are very, I want to say almost like relaxing, like they're chill songs, you know? These are the songs after the party when you're coming down.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yeah, I don't, Yeah, those are my favorites. It was, oddly enough, the ones that I... that I... I don't know why, because I didn't have any heartache in my... Well, sure I have, but not that much. But it's funny, even from a young age, when I was like 15, 16, these songs that tugged at your heart, those are the ones that are
Starting point is 01:03:19 kind of the ones that are most memorable for me. Anyway, enough of that. I do think people will be surprised because I think the persona of Steve Anthony is a bit of a, he's manic. Yeah, manic you. So we're expecting you. I'm not saying, I'm not saying.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Where's the... These are my favorite songs. Like you said, you asked for 10 frigging songs. I know. I mean, this is like hard. We're about to kick out another jam, but quickly, because you mentioned 99.9. You did work mornings on 99.9 as well, right?
Starting point is 01:03:42 For a little bit, yeah. For a little bit. And do you know that your news guy there, Mike Stafford, just got the morning show gig at 6.40, which I think is interesting because he's 38 years in the biz and he just got his first opportunity at a morning show, like to be actually the host of a morning show. Okay, did he tell you that it was his first opportunity?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Well, he did news on morning shows. Yeah, but I didn't know that it was his first opportunity because he was doing Midday 640. Right. But to have the morning drive show. Tag on him, yeah. Right. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:04:10 He does talk about the 99.9 years that he was there as a clusterfuck, he said. So many different hosts came and went, and he doesn't speak highly of it. Highly of it, no. Yeah, no, there were a lot of things. It didn't really know what it wanted to be, that station. It didn't have everything in its right place.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Correct. Okay, I'm going to go take a piss while you listen to this. I absolutely love this song, so go take your leave here. Thank you. Everything Everything Everything Everything And it's right there And it's right place. And it's right place.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And it's right place. And it's right place. All right, radio head, everything in its right place, by the way. And the reason I had to take a pee was because I just finished my third 7.10 ml of Coca-Cola syrup. What's that? 14.20. 21.20. 21.40. 21.40 ml of Coke syrup. Over two liters of Coke syrup. Anyway, turn this up.
Starting point is 01:06:02 For those of you who don't know the song, you're a bad person. This was in It By Itself. Stand Alone is just fabulous. It's so haunting. Radiohead, by the way. Bar none of the top ten bands of all time. This was in a film called Vanilla Sky,
Starting point is 01:06:25 which starred Tom Cruise. And it's a really good film. Iilla Sky, which starred Tom Cruise. And it's a really good film. I know you're going, Tom Cruise? It's a really good film. What's the name of his girlfriend? Penelope Cruz. Penelope Cruz was in it. Cameron Crowe made that movie.
Starting point is 01:06:38 And Cameron Diaz was in it as well. And it's got a real twist to it at the end. But it's kind of haunting because there's points where he's driving around in his car in Los Angeles? It's in L.A. I think it's Times Square, New York. Oh, it's in New York, right. And there's no one there.
Starting point is 01:06:52 It's like, it's completely empty. I don't know how they arranged it, whether they CGI'd it in or dropped it in. No, I think they really cleared it out.
Starting point is 01:06:58 They just cleared out like Times Square. There's nothing there, man. There's never, there's never nothing there. And for this film they did, it was really kind of mesmerizing. But anyway, listen to this. And, oh, by the way, you'll find on YouTube,
Starting point is 01:07:12 you'll find them doing this live in Munich or something like this. And it's better than this version as well, because they're just sitting down and they're playing little tiny things on stage. These little, like, almost thumb pianos, but they're electronic. It's very cool. I recently launched a second podcast, which is three and a half minutes every single weekday morning where I just basically share five things you should know.
Starting point is 01:07:34 And when I did my teaser trailer, which I had up for a month, where I pushed people to subscribe before I started, this was the jam I used in the background. I love this song. I guess the granddaddy of music like this, you know, whatever you want to call this genre type of thing, this haunting, repetitive
Starting point is 01:08:00 bit, this is the granddaddy. All things stem from this. Even if it wasn't the first. You're the third jam kicker to bring Radiohead to us. I'm surprised it's not more, but Aaron Bronstetter brought a song, I can't remember which one right now,
Starting point is 01:08:14 but Colleen Rushholm, she brought, was it Karma Police? I think she brought Karma Police. Brought the radio head. I like the sucking a lemon part that we passed over there, but it's great. All right. You ready to kick out your... Are we on number eight already? Number eight.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Number eight. Ready, man? All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. It's late in the evening, glass on the side I've been sad with you for most of the night Ignoring everybody here, we wish they would disappear So maybe we could get down now
Starting point is 01:09:02 I don't wanna know if you're getting ahead of the program we can get down program I need you darling, come on, set the tone If you feel you're falling, won't you let me know? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! Wait, wait, wait. Louder! I cannot be here. Sing! I cannot be here. Sing!
Starting point is 01:10:08 This love is a blaze. Yeah, so Ed Sheeran, first time I saw him, did you know, I think I'm almost sure of this, Ed Sheeran already had sold a million copies of his own stuff released by himself when he signed to the record label that he originally signed with for a signing bonus of, I think, something stupid, like $50,000. That was it. No, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:10:32 But he needed the infrastructure to be able to keep going, so this guy knew what he was doing. Anyway, little redhead kid that couldn't get laid for the life of me, except that he's talented. I mean, literally, if, like, if they just heard this song and went, oh, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:10:45 jeez, that guy, I want to sleep with that guy. And then they see him, they never would sleep with him. I don't think. Guy or girl. But he's super talented and what makes the song
Starting point is 01:10:54 is Pharrell Williams. He co-wrote this and produced it. And so all that kind of funky stuff that Pharrell Williams does so well is in here. Which is why I think it's... Not that he doesn't write a great song, but this is the best song on the album,
Starting point is 01:11:07 and I don't know why it didn't do his best as well as the other songs on it. Moving up. Now, now. Oh! Sing! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:16 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:18 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:18 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:19 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:19 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:20 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:22 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 01:11:24 Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!! Oh!! I'm a good to the best band, and the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, the band, You know that part that, oh, that part? Do you get an MC Hammer vibe off of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. It's not just me. So cool.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And if you haven't seen the video, it's ridiculous. There's a marionette of him getting in all kinds of trouble. Sing! Sing! Now everything's just piled on top of each other. See the end of this? See? Everything that was in the song before is all piled on top of each other here.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Sing! Sing! Louder! Sing! Louder! Sing! Sing! Sing! Sing! Sing!
Starting point is 01:12:35 Cool, eh? That's a cool song. Oh. Turn this up. Thank you. This is David Bowie up at Station to Station. Some of the finest musicians ever perform this album. This epitomized why David Bowie never lost his touch. This is like a major kind of sophisticated rock album collective.
Starting point is 01:13:37 It's got TVC15 on it. It's got a bunch of other things. But the jams, like this one, this song is probably like seven, eight minutes long? It's over six minutes. Over six minutes. A lot of it is just lets the musicians flush it out.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Turn it up here. This week drank past me so slowly. The days fell on their knees. Maybe I'll take something to help me. Hope someone takes after me I guess there's always some change in the weather And then he makes it so beautiful here. We'll get to the chorus.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Beautiful. If I did get you the invention tonight That would be crazy tonight Say, that's what I meant to say Oh, do something, but what I never say Say this time, I really meant to show that this time Cause you can never really tell When somebody wants something you want to
Starting point is 01:14:50 I mean, the musician was so good. I'm not sure if it was Carlos Alomar, there was some other stuff on him too, who's doing the vocals on this, we've got to produce a bit. But he lets his musician do this. He could have probably done this song in like three minutes, but it's such a good song that he just let the other three minutes
Starting point is 01:15:11 be filled with his musicians. And oddly enough, I thought it was odd, that when David Bowie passed away, a lot of known musical critical entities, reviewers and people in the know and people who were known to be fans of Bowie and know what they're talking about in music, a great number of them said their favorite David Bowie track of all time,
Starting point is 01:15:37 and this is mine, was Stay. I was surprised to actually see that, that I wasn't alone in this little microcosm of being a David Bowie fan and being alone on this one. So yeah, lots of people love this song. It's from Station Station. Not this song, but just to name a few people who kicked out the jams
Starting point is 01:15:56 and kicked out other David Bowie songs. Ron Hawkins from Lowest of the Low. Mike Stafford, who we just talked about. He kicked out a David Bowie song. Stephen Stanley, by the way, also of Lowest of the Low. Mike Stafford, who we just talked about, he kicked out a David Bowie song. Stephen Stanley, by the way, also of Lowest of the Low. And Colleen Rusholm, again, you share another artist of Colleen. Colleen!
Starting point is 01:16:14 Oh, we got something going on, you and me. She just got married, by the way. How's her show doing? I don't know. It's not Toronto, right? It's a Hamilton's her show doing? I don't know. It's not Toronto, right? It's a Hamilton show, right? So I don't know. Let him listen to it, dude.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Great. Here's where it's part of the music. And, oh, at the end of it. Yeah, this is where it just kind of rolls in. It just lets you go hog wild. And I love songs like that, too. I love songs that do, like, Goodbye Stranger by Supertramp, where it just, like, they just let the whole thing rock and flush out.
Starting point is 01:16:53 The last, you know, two minutes of the song just kind of go for it until it fades away. So let's just go. We'll be right back. It's the kind of thing where, same thing with Goodbye Stranger, where that guitar goes, and it's like, you go, why did you ever fade it? You could have gone two more minutes with just this jamming, and it would be fine Like, you go, why did you ever fade it? You could have gone two more minutes with just this jamming, and it would be fine.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Nobody would go, ahem, it's just another night jamming. Let me fade that down and move on to the next song. I hope you understand why I like this song. If you don't, screw you. As I told the last guest, he's an indie singer-songwriter in Toronto. He's very good. His name is Sean William Clark.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And I told him what I saw on this video by Vox, which is that when you fade out a song, the song lives forever. This is the beauty of fading out a song. It never ends that way. I have no idea what that means. You don't know what that means? I do, I do, I do, I do. You, with your words like knives and swords
Starting point is 01:19:02 And weapons that you use against me You have knocked me off my feet again With your words like knives and swords and weapons that you use against me, you have knocked me off my feet again, got me feeling like a nothing, you. With your voice like nails on a chalkboard calling me out when I wounded you. Picking on the weaker man. Listen to the lyrics and listen to the package. You can take me down with just one single blow. But you don't know what you don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Someday I'll be living in a big old city and all you're ever going to be is mean. All you're ever gonna be is mean. Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me. And all you're ever gonna be is mean. Why you gotta be so mean? Anyway, so this is, um, um, what's like, well, we'll get it to Scott, whatever his name is, um, who found, who found her into Scott Whatever his name is Who found her One of his most famous You watch The Launch?
Starting point is 01:20:10 No You watch it? Okay Scott Borgetta Got a record label He signed her Taylor Swift Mostly because She writes such a great song
Starting point is 01:20:24 Like her Though it was country You might not like country For someone so young mostly because she writes such a great song. Like her, though it was country, you might not like country, for someone so young when she was writing, her lyrics were so profound. And this is a song about me, and I think it became one of my favorites. I knew about it, I really liked it. And then there was an episode of Glee years ago, where the coach of the football team, who was very masculine. They, they,
Starting point is 01:20:48 they, people inferred that she was gay. But she wasn't at all. And it was, it was a teaching moment where people's impressions
Starting point is 01:20:59 of someone just because they see them are sometimes incredibly wrong. Amanda Marshall did a song about that too. So it was wrong. And so she ended up, as a coach, she ended up becoming the girlfriend of a guy
Starting point is 01:21:17 who was a real professional football coach or something. And he ended up being, we didn't know it, he ended up being super abusive to her. And you'd think because she was so masculine, she'd take care of herself but she she wasn't she as a football coach she had that but she didn't have the emotional thing to deal with this guy so she's the one you know on in glee you have people on the show performing hit songs at the time so she's the one who's saying this is really powerful. So then I went back and reviewed this, which is the video. The video is kind of like silly.
Starting point is 01:21:50 But turn it over here. And pathetic and alone in life and mean and mean and mean and mean. But someday I'll be living in a big old city And all you're ever gonna be is me Yeah, someday I'll be big enough so you can't hit me And all you're ever gonna be is a meme Why you gotta be so mean? I'll be living in a big old state Why you gotta be so mean? All you're ever gonna be is a meme
Starting point is 01:22:34 Why you gotta be so mean? Someday I'll be big enough so you can't hate me Why you gotta be so mean? All you're ever gonna be is a meme Why you gotta be so mean? They all be big enough that you can't hit me. Just so profound. That's great. Your last three jams were all four-letter words. Sing, stay mean.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Oh, my God. Oh, look at the trend we detected. Okay. Steve, did you have a good time? I had a great time, man. That was a blast. Thanks so much for doing that. You're very welcome. It. Steve, did you have a good time? I had a great time, man. That was a blast. Thanks so much for doing that. You're very welcome.
Starting point is 01:23:08 It was a pleasure, actually. I didn't realize how much I... I always say that music is a wonderful thing, but if you sit down and shoot the shit for a little bit about it, there's nothing like it. There's nothing like it, man. Look at us two guys just hanging in my basement listening to cool games.
Starting point is 01:23:21 With a six-pack of beer that we ain't drank. That's right. Ain't drank. We ain't drinking that. Thanks for the Great Lakes Brewery beer and the cup from Brian Gerstein. Thanks. From... Propertyinthe6.com.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Now I just got to find another excuse at some points to get you back here. That'll be my next challenge. Okay, you got to make up a new show. Right. Okay. And that brings us to the end of our 309th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike.
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