Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Stu Stone Returns: Toronto Mike'd #457

Episode Date: April 28, 2019

Mike chats with documentary filmmaker Stu Stone about Jack of All Trades, his relationship with Jamie Kennedy, 90s Cancon jams and a thousand other nuggets of nostalgia.

Welcome to episode 357 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Propertyinthe6.com, Palma Pasta, Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair, Camp Ternasol, and our newest sponsor, Sticker U. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me this week is documentary filmmaker Stu Stone. Yes. Where's that applause button? Where is that applause button? The yellow one. Thank you. I need like a cheat sheet.

Like what's behind each. That's the first time I've ever been introduced as a documentary filmmaker. That felt good. You know. And it's good to be back, by the way. 100 episodes later. I could have introduced you in a myriad of ways. Like you're so many different things.

A jack of all trades, if you will. A jack of all trades. Yes. Hey, Spike Lee jacket. Yeah. 40 acres and a mule. Yeah. It's the, I gotta get it.

I'm like wearing it out. I need to get it refurbished or something. I'm like wearing holes in it because I've worn it for so many years. I love this jacket. And that's like, I like that. That's the look I like. I like it. It's been loved.

Like you've worn it a lot and it looks like it because you love it. You have like 100 new sponsors since I was last time. How many did I have last time? I might explain all this new equipment that you've got here. Well, here. You are a documentary filmmaker because you made Jack of All Trades. Yes. And we're going to talk about that in a moment.

But because you're a filmmaker, I got a question. You see we're live streaming on Periscope over here. Ah, yes. And I have been reconfiguring the studio to make the video better. And this is like a new, I did this yesterday. I keep flipping things and then I move, this part was here before. And then I want to, I'm trying to figure out how to get like, where it's still, I still like, my passion is audio.

Like this needs to be an excellent sounding podcast. But I wouldn't mind making it a decent looking live stream. So I'm trying to find how to do that in this tiny space. You're doing a lot here, man. And then I realized like in this current config, like I have to, I guess I'll have to be like one of those like um like good morning vietnam what was that guy's name robin williams yeah i know for 500 alex i know the actor's name do you remember the character adrian yeah something like that adrian and he was like had like a real loose yeah and i feel like

he was swinging around i gotta become like that guy like i'm gonna be swinging around because i need to get in front of this thing. I realized as I was doing the intro, I can't see my – I should have that memorized, I guess. But like you said, I've got lots of sponsors going on. So do you have any tips? I'm putting you on the spot here. Well, I mean, first and foremost, this is incredible. Last time we were here, you were facing the wall.

Now you're facing out. So you've made a lot of changes. That's right. You've got mics and stands and swings and boards and buttons. A lot's changed. I feel like I had the mics when you were here last. I feel like I had the swings too. I just didn't see them.

No, maybe. This guy's new though. My point is that primarily this is an audio deliverable show. So your focus on making that the primary experience, I can respect that. And I think you've done a tremendous job. I think we can all agree on that. Adding this new component where you're trying to go live. Well, not trying.

You are going live because I can see that we are live, live, live right now. This is not a bad angle. You might want to get a little bit, you know, some lighting. Yes. Okay. Okay. For sure. I actually, I mean, this is what, how much of a video like noob I am.

So my buddy Andrew Stokely says, Hey, you need, you need more lighting. I'm like, yeah, I do. It's dark here. I got to get lighting. So I turn that guy on and then it's like, no, that's backlight. That's bad idea. So I turn it on, I turn it off, and I realize the light's got to come from behind the camera.

Exactly, yeah. So that's my next, the next thing I'll figure out is some lighting system to put some light on us. But enough about me. Let's talk about you, Stu. Welcome back. Let me tell the listeners, if they want to go back to your first appearance,

which, by the way, I'm on the record I've said this. The best surprise in the 457 episodes was Stu Stone, because I didn't know you existed. I mean that respectfully. Yeah, that's fair. I just didn't know you existed. I'm still trying to find myself, too, so. Like, what's a Stu Stone, right? Like, oh, what's a Stu Stone?

I had a song for you, too. Hold on, I'll intro off the top here. Okay. We'll just bring it down a bit, but that's my Stew Stone song. So, What's a Stew Stone? Which is harder to say than it should be. And we talked for like two hours, I think, and we kicked out the jams. And I was like, I love this guy.

I love this guy. The feeling was mutual. I think I love you, man. I appreciate that. Dude, the feeling is mutual. The feeling is beyond mutual. Oh, my God. I'm going to shut down that camera.

We got to get closer here. And shout out to Cam Gordon. Yeah, it's all Cam. He's the reason why we even exist together. Yes, he came on and he was talking about, you know, he called you like. He said, I know the guy from My Pet Monster. Oh. And I was like, oh yeah, like, yeah.

Like Monzi? So who were you in My Pet Monster? Chucky. Chucky. So there was like, Monster was Monzi. You know, there was Beaster. You know him. He's the heel.

Okay. I kind of. Like he was the guy that was trying to get Monster. Right. Then there was Max, who was the owner of the Monster. Okay, I kind of... Like he was the guy that was trying to get Monster. Right. Then there was Max, who was the owner of the Monster. Blonde-haired kid, nice kid. Right, right, right. He had a sister, Jill.

He had a neighbor, Mr. Hinkle. And, of course, he had his best friend, Chucky, who was always there with him in a white lab coat. And you're... I was Chucky. You're Chucky. Yes. Okay.

Here's a fun fact that you need to know about My chucky you're chucky okay here's a fun fact that you need to know about my pet monster bury me in my pet monster fun fact let's just open the show with like a huge mind blow for your listeners who are my pet monster is everybody first is everybody sitting down they better be my pet monster which ran for 150 years oh yeah we you know how many episodes we recorded oh shit shit. Now because you're setting it up like this I know it's a low number. 13. What? 13. Is that true? That's it. So you just looped the 13

over and over again? 13 episodes over and over again for 150 years. Because your target audience are kids right? And kids are stupid. They'll watch something the same thing over and over and over and over and over again. And when I think about my own childhood, I was the same way. I probably watched Teen Wolf 600 times.

I like that scene where he wants the keg of beer. Give me a keg of beer. He goes, indeed. I love Teen Wolf. I totally saw it at the Humber Odeon at Jane and Bloor. And I still remember seeing it with my buddy Chris and loving that movie. And the whole surfing on top of the van thing. Yeah, Stiles.

Stiles' shirt, too. What is it? What are you looking at, dick nose? Is that what it said? I think so. That's so funny. And there was a Teen Wolf cartoon, not as memorable as the movie.

But anyway. And there was a Teen Wolf 2. Teen Wolf 2 also, but it's Teen Wolf as well. So it was like Teen Wolf T-O-O. Right, 13. And there's a Teen Wolf 2. Teen Wolf 2 also, but it's Teen Wolf as well. So it was like Teen Wolf T-O-O. Right, clever. And it was Jason Bateman as a boxer. Right. We should just talk about this for a second.

Yeah. You know, I guess it totally passed our smell tests as kids, but, you know, how the hell was a city okay with a werewolf playing basketball against, let alone a werewolf boxing another kid. Okay, so your point is it's dangerous, right? Very. Yeah, it's like a wild beast could claw the students

and maul the other... Let alone like the werewolves acting in Shakespeare plays as the lead role. You're so right. Why do they allow that? By the way, that movie I think introduced me to...

I feel like it introduced me to marijuana or something like that i learned like oh there's weed and i don't even remember there being in that movie uh styles i think was looking for weed i swear i have no recollection of that okay and couldn't find it but the wolf of course had great uh sense of smell and could smell the weed and then so the as the wolf, Scott. Scotty, yeah. Scott Howard. Scott Howard found the weed for Stiles. I swear to you, I have no recollection of that. And I haven't seen this in a long time.

This is all from a long time ago. But I think he says something like, is this what you're looking for? Or something like that, like a baggie. Yeah, I remember that. I have no, I don't remember that at all. I remember like there was a guy on the team, like the guy who's like, it's not for sale, Francis,

like Francis from Pee Wee, I think he was on the basketball team. That's him, yeah. He had like raviolis in his locker. Yes. I don't remember who he said that. Great callback to Pee Wee's Big Adventure because that is the same guy, the rich guy from that. And I remember, shoot it, fat boy.

Chubbs. Yeah, Chubbs. Right. Boof. Boof? guy from that and and i remember uh shoot it fat boy and chubs yeah chubs right and uh yeah boof was the brunette the girl but there was the hot blonde yeah so he so when he was the wolf he passed on the blonde i mean he passed on boof and ended up with the blonde but then when he lost the wolf he learned his lesson he was like are you allowed to swear on this show yeah he was like fuck the blonde. I'm going to go with Boof. And there's that scene where he literally, she's wearing a very nice sweater.

I remember it's like a cat, I don't know, a soft looking sweater and he kind of literally brushes her aside and goes for Boof. And the song, is that Joe Esposito? Am I right?

I don't remember. Like this is Win in the End? That's the best. Do I have that? Hold on here. Show Esposito. I have it for me here. Okay,

so while I quickly look up if I have Joe Esp talk more about teen wolf why do you do that i was gonna uh are you a raptor are you a raptor fan of course i'm a raptors fan i'm a toronto blue jays fan i'm a toronto maple leaves fan who's in mourning and uh i'm a toronto raptors fan they looked real good uh they finally won a game one in a series, which was exciting. And, you know, it's been a big week for Toronto sports, highs and lows. So I guess if you're listening to this at any point in history, you'll be able to reflect back on this specific week as the week that Vladimir Guerrero Jr. made his Major League Baseball debut. You know, I'm confusing and conflating

things, but yes. Okay, so I saw that image yesterday, of course. Vladdy was at the Raptor game, which we... By the way, other than game one when we lost to Orlando, it feels like almost every game since then has been a Raptor blowout. It hasn't been very stressful. It's been very good. Yesterday, there was

Vladdy and Drake, and they embraced. I don't know if you saw the... No, I didn't see't see that yeah there was an embrace uh which is kind of cool and uh yeah vladdy uh like our savior right he's like our messiah like this is he's got two as of this moment although they're playing right now uh he's got two career hits yeah like a double and a single right and honestly uh i feel like he's approaching his 500th homer. Like a double and a single. Right. And honestly, I feel like he's approaching his 500th homer in a Blue Jay uniform. This is unprecedented hype.

Yeah. I've never seen anything like it. And I'm all about it too. I love it. I went to the game. Oh, this is the song. No, I'm now confuting two songs. Is this song from Karate Kid?

Right, right. So what's the song? This is your the best. Right. the song this is you're the best right yeah this karate i've conflated two of my uh epic yeah similar time period but you're right this is from the karate kid which i love to sweep the leg sweep the leg i'm sorry daniel i'm sorry sweep the leg right so this is from uh karate kid what's the song at the end of uh so this is from Karate Kid what's the song

at the end of Teen Wolf I mean I don't like of all the things that I don't remember that's one of them shit I'll tell you though

they did a real they did a Karate Kid reboot that I'm sure you're aware of called Cobra Kai and that's Will Smith no no no

that's a different thing I'm talking about like on YouTube there's like a TV show. It's good, right? I don't know. I saw one episode, but now Daniel's like the bad guy and Johnny's the good guy. They like flipped it.

Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I haven't seen it, but I heard it might be good. But I thought you were talking about they redid the movie, which I haven't seen. No, no. It's like a show that was like Daniel's kid is training to fight against Johnny's kid or some shit like that. Anyway. I really, really like I can't, I really, I like Teen Wolf a lot

but I really liked Karate Kid too. Like those are like two of my core movies when I was a kid. Like I loved the Karate Kid with great passion. It's the best movie. And Revenge of the Nerds also good. All of these movies all have the same type of theme.

You know, this underdog who overcomes the odds to become a popular hero in his high school. Now, Revenge of the Nerds

doesn't age well, of course. Because he rapes her, right? Yes, definitely. So, we shouldn't even laugh except at the time

we all were okay with this apparently but now we aren't okay with this. And also, the hidden cameras in Girls Change in the Room you're not supposed to do that. It taught us this apparently but now we aren't okay with this so uh and also the the hidden cameras and girls change in the room too there's a lot that doesn't you're not supposed to do that right i think it

taught us bad lessons but it's a great movie rated r though comedy so you know what can you expect and ted mcginley's in that thing yeah of course who shows up in stan gable right and he's uh he's on married with children as well yes as. As Jefferson Darcy. Yes. And he came on to Happy Days. Happy Days, of course. He ended up as the principal, I think. He's the kiss of death in your series. So who's the guy who screams, nerds?

Ogre. Ogre. But who plays Ogre? Do you know that guy? I don't know. Like Bill Schmidt. I'm just making up a name. All right.

Okay. If it's going to go like this, man, I hope you have a few hours. This could go well. Let's talk about some... All right. Is this... Okay. If it's going to go like this, man, I hope you have a few hours. This could go well. So let's talk about Jack of all trades again. Sure. Good transition, by the way. You're getting good at this. Yeah.

Now, last time you were here, it was... We were screening it in Toronto. And I actually... Right. But now people can see it. Yes, finally. Like, firstly, tell us how we can see it. Yes, finally. Firstly, tell us how we could see it and then let's talk a little bit about reaction and feedback and stuff. Definitely.

So Jack of All Trades, last time I was here, we were screening it in Toronto. And now it's been, just to show you how long of a journey a film truly is from start to finish, it's now been a year since I was here and the movie's finally now just come out for people to watch on a on a wider scale uh it is available now worldwide uh on itunes and by worldwide i mean

america and canada yeah which is the only people who listen to this program yes and well specifically in canada it is available on itunes and it is available on I believe Amazon and various other platforms. We have an Instagram and a Facebook page, Jack of All Trades, where all the information is there but iTunes is really the best bet to find it because

I know it's there. And I know you're doing well because I saw you in a luxury automobile when you pulled up. Is that your car? No, that's a loaner. So you had to steal a car to get here. I had to steal a luxury automobile. Yeah. Was that your car? No, that's a loaner. Okay, so you had to steal a car to get here, right? I had to steal a car to get here. I actually blew a tire, and I had to borrow a car to get here. And the last time I borrowed someone's car, which I'm going to knock with it, that doesn't happen again,

I totaled the guy's car, and it was not a good situation. Is that right? That's my fear. Yeah. I almost won't borrow a car because I'm afraid I'm going to smash it. It's the worst thing you could do is total your friend's car. Yeah, because. It wasn't even that good of a friend.

It was like some guy that was like, hey, can I borrow your car for a minute? And then I destroyed it. So how does insurance work in that situation? Well, it didn't work. So I had to buy the guy a car. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was devastating. Wow.

How long ago was this? It was like, you know, five, six years ago. Wow. How long ago was this? This was like five, six years ago. Wow. It was brutal. I was like literally a block from where I was going to. And I made a right and it was like, boom, crash, three cars. Was it your fault? Probably.

Oh, man. But you're not borrowing. I have the shit bucket in the driveway and I still won't let you borrow it because I like that car. Off the record, I don't know if it was my fault okay but on the record it definitely

was not my fault I don't even know how it happened on the record no don't worry it's already settled right like they can't

do you remember did you ever have like a charity fundraiser at your school where they like brought in a car and like people

you pay money and you like smash it with like a sledgehammer no but we had inner city balloon day what well I how uh like i guess you you raise funds and each dollar gets you a balloon and they fill the balloons with helium and then you write a letter or you have some tag with your name and address or something because there's no email back then but you it's attached to the balloon

and then we all went in the schoolyard, and we released all these balloons, like thousands of balloons. And then if somebody found your balloon, let's pretend somebody in, I don't know, Detroit finds your balloon, and they write you a letter and say, I found your balloon, I'm in Detroit,

your balloon made it all the way here from Toronto. Like, this was a thing, and we did it every year. I have two immediate thoughts on that. Okay, go, because I have a thought, too. Sort of like Revenge of the Nerds didn't age year. I have two immediate thoughts on that. Okay, go. Cause I have a thought too, sort of like revenge of the nerds didn't age. It doesn't age well at all. I mean, first off,

those balloons are not traveling very far. So, you know, you're bound to have one of these God forbid balloons land on some watchdog property. And like now the guy has like a balloon with some like nine year olds address and here come find me. That's terrible uh second of all i feel like the teachers could have just like uh pulled a fast one on you by just like

writing letters to the kids and like how would you know if you're like hi this is dennis from detroit i found your balloon like that could be your teacher just writing you letters no you're right because i remember there'd be some that we'd be all impressed at how far it went like oh look it went to new brunswick or something like that's not possible no but when you're right. Because I remember there'd be some that we'd be all impressed at how far it went. Like, oh, look, it went to New Brunswick or something. Like, that's not possible. No. But when you're a kid, you can be lied to. I know.

But I'm more worried about the fact that kids are just randomly putting their like, hi, I'm Kyle. I'm nine. Here's my address. Yeah, totally. That totally happens. It's also bad for the environment. No, that's the one that I find interesting is that like, it's terrible for the environment,

right? And like birds and stuff like you, you're putting thousands of balloons out there. Yeah. You're just releasing them intentionally. Is there thousands of balloons? I think so. Hundreds at least.

I don't know. And like the money that was raised, was it like put to good use? Inner city. I think they were called inner city angels. And I think it was for like, I think it was for like, uh, teaching, was for teaching inner city students about music and stuff. Oh, that's nice.

I feel like it was a good cause. Sounds good. Or like, yeah, arts. Their heart was in the right place. Yeah. Like maybe dramatic arts workshops and stuff like that, I feel. Did any kids come out of that program to become like the next Stu Stone or something? No. Oh, man man good for them that'd be amazing if we could we didn't produce a stew stone like cam gordon likes to he came on and just named people he knows who are famous

how many does he know there's a lot like uh he's like jesse barfield does he i don't know i don't know why did you say that i got excited i follow he follows me on twitter j Jesse Barfield. Does he? I think that's amazing, but then I saw he follows everybody. It's not like Jose Bautista, though. Right. He follows everybody.

Jose Bautista, I'm the only one he doesn't follow, which is heartbreaking because I love Jose. Oh, speaking of baseball people. Jack of all trades. Jack of all trades. Mike Wilner's in it. I know we mentioned that last time. That's my boy.

He's a friend of the show. He's on all the time. So my nephew had a bar mitzvah recently, which means he turned 13 and you have a big Jewish celebration. Do you think I don't know what a bar mitzvah is? I've seen a lot of movies and TV shows. Maybe you do, but

some of your listeners might not. And we did this thing where all the kids put their names in a balloon and they, no, we didn't do that. But I did a video where I called out all of like anybody notable in my phone book and was like, hey, can you do a video message for my nephew for his bar mitzvah so he could play the video? Yeah.

And Wilner was one of the guys that I hit up and he sent a video. I don't know why I shared this information with him. No, I think that's good to know. He was like, hey, no, it's Mike Wilner. And he wished him a happy bar mitzvah and dropped a bunch of like muzzle tubs. And it was really, it was a hit at the party. No, I think that's a great story to share because people who listen to the show, they know Mike Wilner and it humanizes Wilner.

Yeah, eat that monster. Speaking of Wilner. Yeah. Boy, oh boy. He had the call of the century on the, uh, Vladimir Guerrero, almost first career home run.

Did you see that? I saw the replay, but I didn't hear the call. It's the best. You like need to find that. It's the best. He didn't tell the ball, get up,

get out ball. He didn't do any of that. Basically, he like called it a home run. And then when it wasn't a home run, he was like shocked. It was amazing. And it was probably the most entertaining call. So shout out to Wilner.

But the Wilner haters will embrace that and share that as evidence that he's no good at his job. No, he's great. I know he's great. He was trying to will that ball out of the park. So hopefully, Vlad's going to hit lots of home runs, and Wilner will be able to get the call on all those. Could you imagine there was a guy who no hype around his arrival. By the way, I love Mike Wilner. I just want you to know that.

Everyone knows this is a pro Wilner space. It should be. It's a safe space for Mike Wilner. Okay. So Vladdy Guerrero, the most hyped prospect in Blue Jay history. There was a guy named Domingo Martinez and he was a rookie, but he was a big guy. Like he looked like he was a real strong big guy. I think he played first base and DH'd.

I was at the game where he hit his first career home run. It's also the same game that Rance Mullenix hit his final career hit. Wow. That's a big moment, right? Me and my brother were at the game, and we predicted he'd be the first Blue Jay to hit 50 homers in a season. Domingo Martinez is going to be a beast for this team. Look at this.

And did it happen? It turns out that was his only career homer. Oh, man. I've subsequently Googled Domingo Martinez. How did he end up doing? We lost sight of the guy in 92 or whatever that was. Anyway, that's not going to be the story.

What ended up happening with Domingo? What's he doing now? Allar going to be the story. What ended up happening with Domingo? I guess he... What's he doing now? All A Rude was in the way. So All A Rude, I guess... It was tough to crack first base for the Blue Jays. Yeah, they had Fred McGriff first and then All A Rude. And then Carlos.

Yeah, before that, Cecil. And Willie Upshaw before that. Yeah, Willie Upshaw. It's been like a... And then, yeah, it's a tough place to crack. Domingo Martinez. Yeah, so you can look him up. Domingo Martinez.

But Vladdy's not going to be a Domingo. No worries. I'll tell you what. Just getting back to Jack of all trades for a second. Ken Griffey Jr., who is like the most hyped, I would say successfully hyped rookie of our lifetime. His rookie card, 1989. His rookie card, 1989 Upper Deck rookie card, which I hope you owned

or at least tried to own. It was a big one. That was a big card. It's like a modern art for our generation. You're going to tell me now what it's worth. I'm not going to do that because I don't want to ruin the movie. But we chronicle the actual creation of that card

in our movie Jack of All Trades. Back to Jack of All Tr card in our movie. Okay, kudos to you. I'm sorry. Back to Jack of all trades. Wonderful movie. I enjoyed it because it's one part like nostalgia for this whole world that I lived, this whole baseball, collecting baseball cards and memorabilia. There's a whole universe there you go back to that I quite liked, like you're talking about there.

You're talking to Jose Canseco, right? Yeah, the man. Like you sat down at his kitchen table or something. You have a better setup here than Canseco had. But I'll say this. That guy is massive. He still looks like he could hit 50 home runs. He could probably hit more homers than Domingo Martinez.

I mean, for sure. I can say that without even any ounce of doubt. Jose was a great guy. A misunderstood guy based on what's out there on him. But I found him to be really cool and charismatic and charming and I sat with him

for like two hours. You only see in these movies, you only see like three minutes of what happened between us. I think we're off. I don't know what's going on. Can you double tap that and see it? Because I have, oh yeah, it's okay.

You know what? It's audio first. I'm not going to worry about it. I think what happened was that your phone like locks. No, because it doesn't lock when Periscope is going. But Periscope, the app will crash. And that's what happened. Let me just take a look at this here.

But I'll continue. Continue your story. Yeah, of course. So, you know, when you're watching the documentary or any documentary for that matter and you watch like someone's interview

you're only seeing a small little slice so you get three minutes of me and Canseco in the movie but in reality I'm with him for like two hours

talking about everything you could imagine it was like you know it was heaven asking him about everything I'm talking about you know, it was heaven asking him about everything. I'm talking about, you know, McGuire and steroids and his book.

And I even was asking him about Jose Bautista and the bat toss. And it was like there was nothing. Your job is to frame that, by the way. But yeah, amazing. And no Ozzy there. No Ozzy. He told me a story that there was an MMA fight where Jose Canseco was advertised to box against somebody, I forget who.

Did I frame this well? It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Anyway, and he sent his brother instead to the fight. And so Ozzy went and fought as Jose. And then they found out after the fact that it was actually Ozzy. This is like when Andre the Giant was banned from

WWF, right? And the giant machine came in. And the giant machine came in. I saw them at Hulkamania. Wow. At the exhibition. In 87, I want to say. 86, 87, 86. Sure, okay, 86 or 87. And then yeah,

that was Andre in a mask but like they couldn't like figure it out i guess like that was the deal right like so he was able to get around the band by putting a mask on right yeah that's what see and like no one could figure out that it was right that it was him but you know what as ridiculous as that is you know clark kent just a pair of glasses yeah so you Also, killer bees real quick since we're on this topic. The killer bees, and I saw this

at the same event they did. I mean, of course, it was a big deal. But they go to the side of the ring and they switch, no, they, yeah, they put masks on and then they switch partners.

Yes, right. So if one is hurt or whatever, yeah, yeah. That one makes more sense. Yeah, but how stupid are the refs? Well, no, because like the two killer bees in masks look the same,

and there's two of them. That's clearly Andre. When they're like, hey, giant machine, he's like, it's clearly like, you know. And as you saw, I don't think we were recording yet, but I have the Andre the Giant mug. Which looked like a Dixie cup in his hand. But I remember seeing Andre

at Maple Leaf Gardens and if you went to Maple Leaf Gardens wrestling shows back in the day you know the ramp. There was a ramp. You know the ramp?

I don't think I I had definitely seen shows. I've been live. I don't remember the ramp. It was like a 10 foot high ramp that like the wrestlers came out on for some reason.

Okay, yeah. Okay. So Andre the giant on a 10 foot ramp was like 100 feet tall, right? Right. And I just remember reaching up to sort of like touch him

because that's sort of like the thing in wrestling is like trying to touch the wrestlers. Sure. And I remember Andre sort of reaching down and like shaking my head. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's like a vivid memory that I have.

Andre, amazing. That's amazing. Rest in peace I have. Andre. Amazing. That's amazing. Rest in peace, Andre. Absolutely. They cut his hair at the gardens. You know that, right? No.

Bobby the Brain attacked him. And King Kong Bundy, rest in peace. And Bobby the Brain, rest in peace. And Big John Studd, rest in peace. All these guys are dead. Yeah. They cut Andre's hair off. They sure did.

And that's not a Brutus the Berber thing. No, that was like a King Kong Bundy with scissors thing. Man, I remember the Brutus the Berber thing. No, that was like a King Kong Bundy with scissors thing. Man, I remember the Brutus the Berber thing, like where if he wins, he cuts the loser's hair. And he was going against, was it Rowdy Roddy Piper he had? He helped Rowdy Roddy. Okay. So Rowdy Roddy. Rest in peace.

Just to give you a backstory, rest in peace. Rowdy Roddy Piper, WrestleMania 3, was taking on adorable Adrian Adonis, rest in peace, and in his retirement match, even though Rowdy didn't really retire because nobody really retires in wrestling. Right. And at the end of the match, Brutus came down

and he cut Adrian's hair and became Brutus the Barber Beefcake. Right. Wow. He was just Brutus the regular Beefcake before, and then he became Brutus the Barber. Dude, I could do a whole two hours about the like 80s WWF, man. That's amazing.

And you have connections. Remind us here. Let me do this. Okay, let me set the table a little bit. So if you want to go back and hear like the A to Z of the Stu Stone career, because it's all over the place and it's wonderful. There's, I'm going to read the description, okay? So it was episode 359.

And it said, Mike chats with Stu Stone about his roles in Donnie Darko. Yeah. You're in Donnie Darko. I got to stop for a moment. You're in Donnie Darko. Yes. See,

I'm acting surprised, but I know this because I've already talked to you before, but that's like a, still a cult favorite. Like that's a big deal. No, of course. I mean,

it's like, uh, if, if, you know, once you're in Donnie darker you don't need to be in anything else like can you go to comic-con conventions i would think i mean i actually have never done that i should do that i would think that that would be something that i should do

that sounds like some income that i'm missing out on now you just have to give me 20 because it was my idea well i just need you to actually hook it up then i'll give you the 20 but i see the degrassi guys are doing a lot of stuff right now. Donnie Darko should be a shoo-in, I think. Okay, so you're in Donnie Darko. What character do you play? I play his best friend, Ronald Fisher is the actual official name of the character.

So you're Jake Gyllenhaal, the Jake Gyllenhaal character. Jake Gyllenhaal, as we pronounce it. But Gyllenhaal's good. He's... So I play his best buddy and we're at the notably we're at like the bus stop

with him smoking cigs and we're getting in trouble with him riding our bikes and I'm in the Hulk Hogan outfit at the end you know in the climax E.T. scene

when we're riding our bikes right wow and you know it was a lot of it's a crazy movie and it has it's a movie that will like never it's like My Pet Monster except you know, it's a crazy movie, and it's a movie that will never,

it's like My Pet Monster, except, you know, it just never dies. Okay, so you're in Donnie Darko, and then I wrote you're in My Pet Monster. Yes. Which you said there's only, you blew our mind. 13 episodes. Which is amazing.

But here's the thing, and the magic school bus. Yeah, the magic school bus. Who are you in the magic school bus? I was Ralphie, the kid with the red baseball cap. And, you know, they went, they took the bus insidealphie at one point i don't know if you i and i feel i was too old for magic kids but they don't know yeah i didn't watch magic school bus i don't think so i'm sure they did they were blues clues people uh awful kids i know but i didn't know you at the time or i would have made them watch it okay now somebody did send in a message i didn't get no to who it was because I'm stupid.

But it said, honestly, the least realistic part about the magic school bus is that a public school has a class size of eight. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, that's a very – I've never heard that one before, and I think that that's a very valid point. You can use that in future. It sounds more like a private school or right some sort of like special education program and uh what else your work as a professional wrestling manager so you let's just talk about this magic school bus three for one more second yeah of course is it possible that there's some special government agency that put this class together because there's only eight kids in the class one of

every ethnicity every box is checked and it's like you know and then these are the kids that get to magically ride against their without their parents knowledge uh in a bus and go to space and see dinosaurs and go do all this crazy shit i'm starting to think that there's something to that yeah i think so uh and again i'm not comfortable the subject matter to kind of roll with you on this because i'm not certain of the premise maybe can you give us like the elevator pitch on what magic school bus yeah here's the so there's eight kids okay in a public school classroom the school's called walker elementary by the way miss frizzle is the name of the teacher played by lily tomlin wow and now they did a reboot of Magic School Bus where Miss Frizzle is played by, oh God, how am I not saying this?

Saturday Night Live, really funny, blonde, so good, so funny. It's the most famous girl on the show. Kate McKinnon. Kate McKinnon. Okay. Kate McKinnon. I was going to guess Wig. No, no.

Kristen Wig. Kristen Wig, yeah. Kate McKinnon plays the new Frizzle, but my class had Lily Tomlin, and the eight kids go to school, and there's this magic school bus that they have that can transform shape, size. It can become a time machine, a train,

anything it needs to be so that the kids go on field trips unlike any other field trip that a normal kid would go on. Right. And they can go into space to learn about space. If they want to learn about dinosaurs, they'll go back in time to the dinosaurs' time. If they want to learn about plants, they'll become soil.

It's amazing. It's a crazy show, and I can't believe that, you know, coming here to talk to you about potentially Jack of all trades, I end up doing the elevator pitch for Magic School Bus. Well, now I think that you could do Comic-Con on that too. Anyway, I'm trying to help you out here. If there's somebody who does Comic-Con bookings that's listening, I'm down. Probably there is.

Actually, probably there is. This is like nostalgia HQ here. Now, we mentioned professional wrestling manager yes what wrestling league is that called leagues what are they called a league sure it's not wwe no although a lot of the guys that i came up with are now all flourishing in careers in the wwe this is a remind me california based hollywood championship wrestling from holly, which is based in Los Angeles, California, but is syndicated all over the United States, Canada, and across, I believe, all over the world.

They're on over 700 stations, and it plays various times throughout the weekend on various local channels. And I was sort of like the Bobby the Brain type character of this program, and it ended up turning into like a West Coast independent wrestling career where I ended up in Las Vegas with future stars of wrestling. Do you want to name drop some future stars? Some of the guys?

Yeah. I can tell you some of the guys that came through our league that are now in WWE. You've got Cesaro. You've got Daniel Bryan. You've got Daniel Bryan. You've got, well, he's not in WWE, but Colt Cabana, a guy who's a producer now for WWE named Adam Pearce. I used to manage him.

He was the NWA World's Heavyweight Champion. Wow. So I managed him, and now he's like a big wig in WWE. Wow. You know, there's tons of names that I could go through. And I'm not even done your description here. This is an amazing recap. So your work, your profession.

By the way, if you go to that episode 359, I play clips of Stu as a wrestling manager, and it's amazing. Okay, your Bob Saget rap. Can I play a bit of that while we talk about that? Sure. Okay. Hopefully it's the right one here. Let's see. Did we cover a bit of that while we talk about that? Sure. Hopefully it's the right one here. Did we cover this last time? I don't know if we did.

For sure. Yeah, there it is. Are you kidding me? This is the mind-blowing part of that episode. This is you. Yes. part of that episode. This is you. Yes. I gotta ask you about Jamie.

So. Toronto rapper and one of my very good friends. Decisive. You know him? I do. He made the beat for this song and co-wrote the song with me. He was actually once booked for the show.

And then he didn't show up? He was going through some stuff and he... I think he's come out on the other side now. You might want to try booking him. Yeah, yeah. He needed to deal with some stuff so he asked to put it on hold and I said, of course.

Yeah, great guy. Yeah, great guy. Yeah, I like his work. So tell me about how you met Jamie Kennedy and your relationship with Jamie Kennedy. Sure. So I moved to L.A. when I first moved out there. I was 16, and I was out there.

I'd reached sort of what I felt was the ceiling of where I could go in Toronto as a Canadian teen actor at the time, out there i was 16s and i was out there you know i'd reached sort of what i felt was uh you know the ceiling of where i could go in toronto as like canadian teen actor at the time or child actor and i ended up going to los angeles and i don't remember whether we covered this last time or not but i ended up staying on the couch of the girl who played the daughter and mrs doubtfire i rented her couch uh for the first you know few months of my LA visit there. I think we covered it because it was two hours and 19 minutes of just fun fact after fun fact and all mind blowing, which is why you're back. And we'll do this again in 100 weeks.

So anyway, I was booking cartoons. You know, that was like sort of my sweet spot was booking a lot of cartoons back then. I was a voiceover guy uh you know i was killing it with the cartoons right and so i when i came went to california one of the first jobs i got to get my visa was a cartoon called the tick if you remember the tick it rings a bell it's like a superhero uh cartoon anyway another cartoon was a lesser known one that was called da mob d-a-M-O-B, Da Mob. Not ringing a bell.

It was for ABC Kids or ABC Family. We did like 26 episodes or something. It was a lot of episodes considering no one knows it. And it was about these white rappers. And it was a comedic take on, you know, these white rappers who were fucking idiots, you know. And the voices was me and Jamie Kennedy played the rappers. Wow. That's how I met him. Yeah. So, you know, I was already

kind of rapping at parties and, you know, I started a band and I was sort of taking music really seriously at that point. And Jamie was, loved my raps, you know? He used to come to, we hit it off right away, obviously, because we both loved hip-hop in real life. And he, you know, he ended up doing

a movie called Malibu's Most Wanted. Yes. It's a great movie, by the way. And it is really, really an intelligence. People say, oh, it's a dumb movie. It's one of the most intelligent, dumb movies you can imagine. So definitely shout out to Malibu's Most Wanted. But there's Circle Circle Dot Dot.

Which is also you and Jamie Kennedy. Yes. And we did not cover this last time. No, I got stories about Circle Circle Dot Dot. Which is also you and Jamie Kennedy. And we did not cover this last time. No, I got stories about Circle Circle Dot Dot. Shout out to Jamie Rise who did this beat with me. It's his birthday today. So happy birthday to Jamie Rise. But anyway, so Jamie Kennedy and I became good friends.

He did this movie Malibu's Most Wanted. He hit me up and he was like, hey, I want to do a B-Rad album. You want to help me put together some songs? And we'll put together like a Malibu's Most Wanted album. And I'm like, sure, let's do it. And so I began kind of working on demo recordings for his B-Rad album. And I was like writing songs and making beats. And Jamie came into the studio and he would like lay down the tracks.

And so the first song, there was a couple lines he couldn't get, and my voice sort of stayed on it. Then the second song, I had a little bit more. And by the third song, he's like, hey, let's just do this together. Nice. And so we started recording these rap songs together, which started out as a B-Rad sort of parody album and turned into a legit sort of hip-hop, life-changing album for me.

His life was already great, but it changed my life for sure. We got an MTV show. It turned out to be, it was like a Curb Your Enthusiasm hip-hop kind of show on MTV called Blowing Up. Wow.

And Jamie and I, the whole show was about these two guys trying to get a record deal, and every week we had like a new, here's what we're going to do to blow up, and it would never work. It was like sort of a comedy of errors. This was our hit song, Circle, Circle, Dot, Dot, I Got My Cootie Shot.

Give it a bit. Come on, everybody, say circle, circle, dot, dot. I got my cootie shot. You think that girl is hot? So it's based off of a popular children's playground nursery rhyme. I don't know if you ever did circle, circle, dot, dot. I got my cootie shot. Nope. That must have been a Thornhill thing.

You guys were putting letters in balloons. We were getting cootie shots at my school. So we ended up doing this album and Circle Circle Dot Dot. This was one of the songs that became kind of popular. There was this guy. This is like at the beginning of YouTube, okay? This is the breakdown. Oh, you got the clean version.

Oh, that was by accident. Shake that ish. Anyway, we were doing a contest where if you make a video for CircleCircle.dot a fan video, because we noticed all these people were uploading videos of them rapping the song and dancing, so the record label and Robin Bechtel, who is a very forward-thinking

woman who signed us to Warner Brothers, she was like, let's do a contest on this new thing called YouTube, where people are already uploading and will give away an iPod. An iPod was like the new big craze, right? And it was an iPod signed by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. It had nothing to do with us, but we were like, oh, this is sick. So we ran this contest and it was appearing to go nowhere.

Some people were uploading videos of them dancing, but we weren't finding some earth-shattering videos. And on the last day, this guy from Australia, his name is Blunty, he uploads a video of a Lego stop-motion animation to the song. And without us even doing anything, the video ends up getting a million plays

in the first week. And this is back when YouTube only had 100,000 users. Right. So it was just like otherworldly that there was this kind of traffic driven to the website from this video. We had actually recorded a music video

that was not this Lego video. And it's also now it's on YouTube, but the video never came out at the time. Me and Jamie did a shot by shot recreation of Wham's Wake Me Up Before You Go Go. Oh, wow. And that was our original video, which you should pull up sometime, but not

now. But this Lego video ended up becoming such a phenomenon that we shelved the video we shot and ran with that one. And our show had been already off the air at MTV at this point. We thought we were left for dead. And we ended up getting another year and a half, two years

out of it just from that. Did you send this like a bottle of wine or an ipod i've never met the guy i'd actually love to meet him um but he definitely like rescued the album amazing now when i went to youtube and i stuck in stew stone and i sorted by view count because i like to see what by far that like millions and millions of views on that legal video. And I've made $0 off of it. And here's the funny part. A week later is when YouTube started their monetization program. So we had the choice of either taking down the video and re-uploading it so that we could be monetized or keeping it up. And the thinking at that point was like, no, no, no.

We've got to leave it up because we don't want to lose the million views. Right. So we left it up. And now it's got like $11 million or $15 million or whatever it is and uh no money has ever changed hands between us and youtube well that that's disappointing but now i gotta go do the circuits uh you know because of that i gotta go sign autographs at the convention all right now i know we're jumping around here but um jack of all trades which people can literally like tonight there's no no Raptor game on tonight. No, this is a good night to do it. Yeah, like you can go to iTunes or wherever

and get Jack of All Trades, the baseball doc that you created. And we talked quite a bit about it, but there's like, I think I started saying this like a half an hour ago, but like you got one part nostalgia for this time where like you mentioned the Ken Griffey Jr. rookie card. Like this was a big thing for us,

like, in the late 80s, early 90s. It was massive, right? Huge. My dad owned a baseball card shop called Sluggers, which is a very popular store in the Toronto area. And by 1990, there was 11 locations. It was a first of its kind. It was like a franchised baseball card shop.

It was everywhere. And, you know, it was built on the backs of players like Don Mattingly and Daryl Strawberry and Jose Canseco and Kirby Puckett and Roger Clemens and et cetera, et cetera. And, you know, I guess in 1991, 92, the industry sort of took a dive. And before that, right before that, my dad like got out of the business, sold all the stores. I don't know much about what, you know, happened there, but he sort of just took off and, uh, disappeared. And, um, you know, obviously that was the end of baseball cards for me and, uh, the end of like any kind of relationship with my dad at that point.

And many years later, fast forward 25 years later, my grandfather had passed away. And in his basement, all these boxes were found that had my name on them that I must have packed when I was a kid. We had to move houses and stuff from our house to another. So in the course of the move, these boxes ended up in my grandfather's basement, and I forgot about them, and everybody forgot about them. And now here they were.

And I knew that there was going to be stuff in that box because I knew that I was raised, you know, in a collecting household. You know, collecting, we knew. We were educated. So I had the sickest collection I knew. So I had a suspicion. I didn't know exactly what was in the box but i knew whatever was in there was going to be amazing so i got together with

a guy who um is the co-director of the film harvey glazer who in real life harv he lived across the street from me as kids and we ended up working together on a movie called kicking it old school that's another story for another time but uh harv and uh contacted him and my sister Carrie and my brother-in-law and business partner Adam Rodness. We all got together and we sort of decided, hey, let's film opening these boxes. We're going to start shooting this. There's a nostalgia documentary here about baseball cards. And I knew that like everybody collected baseball cards. So somebody who's in their late 30s, 40s, 50s, they're going to want to see this.

I know my target demo wants to see this. And it turns out, you know, I did have crazy cards in the boxes and then we went to go sell them and that sort of opened up the floodgates for this documentary. Right, and that's why this doc is so amazing because you think it's one way, but it's the other.

Like it's going down one path and then it becomes this very human story about you and your dad and uh really touching and there's a question that came in from twitter i know you saw it earlier today but it goes uh from a guy or a gal i don't know vegnov vegnov i don't know vegnov uh please give stew a hug from his fans let him know he is smart enough, good enough, and gosh darn it, people love him.

Stuart Smalley. What I like is that Vegnov decided to put in parentheses here that it was Stuart, as if we didn't know. Right. You know what I mean? He's just being courteous. I know. I guess so.

But I feel like. Vegetarians, you know, they're very nice people. Keep it a little subtle. Like, you know, when you spell it out,

that's. When you drop a deep cut, you don't want to announce the deep cut. That's the whole point, right? Because those who get it, there's a big payoff. And those who don't, that's their problem. Family Guy has done like 20 years of shows based on that notion.

That's right. There's more there. This person says, also, if his dad didn't leave, maybe he would have become an accountant in Toronto and missed out on all the Hollywood fun. Cause you're this life,

like rapping of Jamie Kennedy, getting Bob Saget to do a song and, uh, being in all this different stuff. Like, I mean, this is, you got a,

the wrestling thing, uh, sound sounds fun to me, man. That sounds like cool stuff. I think like my path was chosen very young by my parents. Cause I was put into acting when I was two years old, so I really didn't have a choice in the matter.

It was the equivalent of Michael Jordan's parents handing him a basketball at age four. Or Tiger Woods. Gretzky's dad putting the pond in the backyard. That's right. Or the rink, I should say. But not that I'm them. Believe me, that was a joke.

But that's all I know. This is all I know. This is the life that I know. I grew up doing this, and this is all I can do. So if this doesn't go well at some point, I'm screwed because I don't know what to do other than this. But, yeah, listen, I begin to think things like, you know, did I go through all of that stuff just so I could have this movie

is more what I'm thinking. You stuff just so i could have this movie is more what i'm thinking you know i wouldn't have this movie which is such a great beautiful movie in my opinion and i'm biased but i'm so proud of it yeah and i wouldn't even have this if i didn't go through that and i don't know if that's worth the payoff i think i'd probably rather have my dad than the movie but you know in the end this sort of like a bittersweet sort of memento of it all, at least. You know. For sure. So I appreciate the love from Twitter.

Well, there's another tweet. Please ask Stu if he will be taking his documentary around the country and do a showing with Q&A at the end. But then across the country, this person then says that this person can help you if you come to Atlanta. So this person thinks maybe we're in the United States. I don't know. Maybe.

Wrong country, but that's okay. You can do. Any plans to tour with this doc and do Q&A? I mean, this is like a great, that's a grandiose idea. And it's obviously I would love to do that. Just like I would love to go to these Comic Cons that you speak of. But somebody has to take initiative and make this shit happen. I would love to do that. But obviously that sounds like a fucking great idea so if somebody's listening that wants to facilitate a 10 city tour as this person has suggested

i'm all in i'm down um everywhere that i've taken the film to to uh screen which hasn't been to too many places but it's been a few places it has always been uh a really crazy experience uh for me and and the audience it's just wild to watch it in a room full of strangers and see your life story sort of being unfolded and afterwards it's like this cathartic sort of thing for people who come up to me and they're like telling me their stories and it's a really cool, special sort of experience that I can't even really properly put into words, but it would be really special to go and tour this movie and get a chance to meet people. So, yeah, man, I'd love to do that.

I don't know if it's going to happen, but I would love to do it. Well, now that I've intro'd you as a documentary filmmaker, are there any plans for another one? And before you answer that, last time you were here, you met Mark Hebbshire because we had just done an episode of hebbsy on sports i love him and you you bumped into him and i witnessed this wonderful like interaction like you guys chatting and you were telling him like what he meant to you and it was just great to watch you guys in action and then in my head i had a fantasy where you went and made a sports line documentary oh that'd be sick you know

jim because there's a thing of jim getting jim tatty on side would be like your that would be your moby dick like your white whale or whatever and then uh you get jim tatty and hebsey and get them together and find out just just there's something there is there's a there's a there's something there there i believe there's a documentary film there and you'd be the man to i would love to tell that story, believe me it was heartbreaking when I found out from Mark Hebger that him and Jim Taddy hadn't spoken in like 25 years or whatever he said

mind blowing to me but you know what, I could see it it's like, I've been in not just with my dad obviously but I can see that man it's like when you work, Jamie Kennedy and I we were together every single day for like three to five years 24 hours a day at some point you know you're

doesn't matter who you are you're bound to start you know hating the person that you're with every day shout out to those who are married in successful long marriages but i'm not one of them but uh you know jamie and i had a period where we didn't talk for three or four years, you know, after we stopped sort of rapping. Now, obviously, we're really good friends again. But there was a break that was needed. And it was heartbreaking to me that Mark Hebzer and Jim Taddy aren't boys and aren't golfing every weekend. Yeah, me too, man. It's like when you find out Siskel and Ebert don't hang when they're not recording.

Like, it's like, what? I thought they would be together. Ernie and Bert, they'd be everywhere together. But Hebbshire is a trailblazer in a lot of ways. He was as much as, not to dismiss Jim Taddy's contribution to the duo, but Hebbshire was, he was the Michael Jackson of the group, minus, of course, whatever was happening in my book privately. I don't know if that works anymore.

That was a bad example. Mark Hatcher was not the... Diana Raw? No, he's the Beyonce. He was not the Ringo Starr of the group. He's the Beyonce. He's the Beyonce. That's the best one that you could do. Update those references.

He had the bloopers and he had... The Hebsey Awards. The Hebsey Awards. He had character. He had this charisma about him. He didn't... I think what might end up. He had the earring. Yeah, he had the earring.

He wasn't afraid to go there. The reason I always enjoyed Hebsey was because he didn't play it safe. He wasn't particularly corporate, which might be why he rolls his own now. He would go there and ask the tough questions, and he didn't kind of like cow-tow. Is that the expression? Cow-tail? That was the expression there, cow-tow. I don't know.

But bottom line is, Hebsey has to be Hebsey and chew to himself. And I got a lot of respect for that integrity. And I don't know if you caught wind of his new podcast, if you've ever sampled it, but it would be right up your alley. Lots of Raptor talk, lots of Leafs talk. Yeah, of course. Right up your alley. Actually, I was planning, you know,

me and him are allegedly going to get together one day. So I would love for that to happen. He's back here tomorrow at 9 a.m. I won't be here tomorrow. Stay here. But please send my love. Love. Speaking of love, you're going to love,

this was not available to you last time you were here but this this is a frozen vegetable lasagna what yeah lift it can you lift that that's got some weight to it yeah it's gonna be so that it'll break from that guy on twitter the vegetarian uh the hell yeah i forgot that guy's name yeah no it No, it's not from him. That is from Palma Pasta. Wow. Palma Pasta Stew has four locations in Mississauga and Oakville. I'm most excited about Palma's Kitchen. That's near Mavis and Burnhamthorpe. You go to palmapasta.com to find out where they are. They are now on Skip the Dishes, which is exciting news.

And people should cater their events with Palma Pasta. It's tremendous. Like, I'm straight up. That is the best lasagna my family enjoys. You would i just stick it in the oven and boom like you put in the fridge to let it thaw for like a day and then tomorrow like uh you put in the oven at like 375 you put it in for like 45 minutes and it's good to go man it's the there's instructions on the is this for me it's for you you're taking it home with you oh my god you got freezer space for that well you can put in the fridge and then cook it up tomorrow It's for you. You're taking it home with you. Oh my God. You got freezer space for that? Well, you can put it in the fridge and then cook it up tomorrow.

That's what I'll have to do. It's amazing. You'll have leftovers. You know what I'll be having for dinner tomorrow? Palma pasta. Palma pasta. Lasagna. You'll love it.

I will. Straight up. That is great. And you're going to need something to pair with that. So here's a six pack of craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. Insane. I think you got this last time, right? I definitely enjoyed it. craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. Insane. I think you got this last time, right?

I definitely enjoyed it. It's a fiercely independent craft brewery located here in Etobicoke. And Stu, if you're around, I don't know if you're, how long you are in Toronto, like you're bouncing around, right? You're California, the Toronto,

I don't know where you are on any given day, but if you're around on June 27th, TMLX3 takes place at Great Lakes Brewery. I got to get Cam Gordon to this thing. I would love to have a stew, Cam. That would be amazing. Wait, what's the date on that? June 27th from 6 to 9.

I'm going to put it in my calendar. Are you a fan? We're going to kick out some CanCon jams. Are you a fan of a little band called Lowest of the Low? I know them, of course. They will be performing at this event at Great Lakes Brewery. And your first beer is on the house. It would mean a lot to me to see you there.

I want... Where is it at? Great Lakes Brewery, which is near... The address is on the box here. Actually, I can read it. So it's 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard, which is very close to Royal York and Queensway. Not too far from here.

So 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard, June 27th from 6 to 9. Lowest of the low is there. I hope everyone listening comes. And what happens there? Is this like a meet and greet? There's live music. It's kind of a meet and greet in that.

Do you do a live show there? I'm not going to do it. Actually, I wasn't planning to do a live show because we're going to have a live band. I make some awesome speeches that everybody loves. Uh, and then a lowest and low play. And then,

uh, we all just kind of collect and get to know each other and people meet me and I get to meet the listeners and people will want to meet the, my pet monster, uh, buddy. Uh, cause what's that?

Chucky, my pet monster, buddy. I call you the, my pet monster, buddy. But yeah, come June 27th. So that beer's for you.

You got your lasagna. I'm going to take us in a little time machine here. Okay, so Stu, we're going to go back 30 years ago this week because 30 years ago, this was the number one song on the Billboard 100. God? Madonna, Life is a Mystery? The title's off a bit, Like a Prayer.

Yes, very good. You named it in like one beat there. Good job, bud. It's like some weird version of it. I believe I pulled this from the Immaculate Collection. Oh, yeah. Life is a mystery. Really good video.

Remember, this was that Pepsi controversy. Do you remember the Pepsi controversy? She had the burning cross in the video. And black Jesus, which I don't know why that's so controversial. But it was for some reason. Feels like home. Madonna's Like a Prayer

was number one. I got stories. About Madonna? Oh, yeah. Okay, well, hold on to them. First, I want to say I'm playing this song

to remember the time and remember the time is brought to you by Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. Clever. Doing quality. That's my idea idea that's a good idea thanks man i've been doing uh i've been doing they've been doing quality watch and jewelry repairs for over 30 years closer to 40 milan tells me i gotta update the script uh remember the time uh used to be the guys remember the time by the

way there was an episode where i called them remember the time so i'm not that good at this but they're called fast time watch and jewelry repair. They used to be the watch repair place in Sears, Canada locations. Like you go into Sears to get your battery replaced or get your watch band fixed or to get your jewelry fixed or whatever. And that was these guys. But then Sears, you know, declared bankruptcy and left the country. And then now fast time is opening up their own locations, including their newest one that's in Richmond Hill. So go to FastTimeWatchRepair.com for a location near you. Stu, if you want to get 15% off any regular price watch battery installation, who doesn't?

Just tell them you heard about them on Toronto Mic'd and they take 15% off. That's the tax right there. It's amazing. All right. Well, I bring down Madonna. Tell me a Madonna story. So I went to that concert, which would have been the Blonde Ambition Tour. Where the cops wanted to talk to her.

Is that the one? That's the one. So I must have been 12 years old, 13 years old. I don't remember how old I was, but I had maybe six road tickets to this show. Wow. My dad used to not fuck around when it came to concerts. So I had a really good childhood of concerts and sporting events as far as prime seats to, you know,

concerts, which we could get to. But I remember seeing Madonna doing this shtick where she's on the bed and she's playing with her private parts. Yeah, it's like a masturbation simulation. It was a whole masturbation thing and it was like it was like life-changing experience for, you know, pre-pubescent

Stu to see this like, you know, sex symbol of the era touching her breasts in privates. It was insane and highly inappropriate, but definitely set me on a path for the rest of my life. I bet you that would have some effect on a 12-year-old boy like yourself. It probably explains a lot about what I've become as a monster of a man. So the first crush was Elizabeth, right? The macho man's manager.

And then you kind of segue over to Madonna. Elizabeth wasn't touching herself like Madonna was. No, she was a classy broad. She was in character, yeah. Sort of a prom dress. Elizabeth wore the prom dress and Madonna's prom dress was on the ground. Right. That's the best analogy I could come up with on the spot there. No, I like it. That's good.

Yeah, Madonna was a big fucking deal. She was also in Dick Tracy. It was a big time for her. That was a big year for her. Yeah. She was dating Warren Beatty, as I recall. And Beatty's in that documentary Truth or Dare. Absolutely, man. We could do an episode on Madonna. She has a new song

that just came out now, but I don't get it. I haven't heard it, but I heard it was coming out. It's like a Spanish thing. She always did like La Isla Bonita. You remember this? La Isla Bonita. Which was kind of a cool jam, but okay, I gotta check out the new Madonna. Nah. No, okay, I won't check it out.

It's best to remember her like this. That's right. So, Like a Prayer, which I think the Pepsi controversy is kind of a fun story if you're looking for a good story. Let me tell everybody just a couple more things before we kick out some CanCon jams. The last episode was with this guy, Michael Barclay, who wrote a book about the tragically hip in Gordownie.

Very interesting guest. It was a great two hours. He tells me that, so this song we're listening to now is by Nana Muscuri. He tells me Nana Muscuri is the artist that has played Massey Hall the fifth most times.

So when you rank number of times you've played that venue, Nana Muscuri is number five. Wow, I didn't know that. No, who would know that? But that's a fantastic fun fact. And that's all I'm looking for is fun facts.

So if you... Is this brought to you by something? Yeah, this is Camp Chernosol. Absolutely. But that's a fantastic fun fact. And that's all I'm looking for is fun facts. Is this brought to you by something? Yeah, this is Camp Tournesol. Absolutely. So this song is called Le Tournesol. I play it for Camp Tournesol. Because if you have a child between the ages of 4 and 14 and you want to see their French skills blossom over the summer, you need to send them to Camp Tournesol French camps.

They're the biggest French camps in the GTA. Do they learn how to French kiss at that camp? I don't have a comment on that during the sponsor mention. If it happens, it's unsanctioned. Let's put it that way. If you want to find out about their day camps and overnight programs, go to campt.ca. And when you do register your child for a Camp Tournesol French Camp,

use the promo code Mike2019 and they'll take $20 off the bill. Wow. And it lets them know you learned about them from listening to Toronto Mike. Ça va bien. Goodbye, Nana. French Camp. You know, if I had French Camp as a kid, that would have been something special. We didn't have, we had baseball camp.

We didn't have French camp, though. But you had baseball camp. You're not talking about just playing for a team. It was a camp? It was a camp. Well, that's pretty good. It was a great camp, but it wasn't French camp. No.

Well, it is. But Camp Tournesol only came around in 2001. Yeah, see, we're, you know, I miss them by a generation. My nephews, I missed them by a generation. My nephews, I was going to say my kids, my nephews go to a French immersion school. Well, that's it.

They have programs at Camp Ternesol for French immersion kids or French as a first language. What do you call that again? What's the term for that when your French is your first language?

Francophone. Francophone, yes, of course. Good man. Look at you. So francophone, French immersion, and kids with no French experience. They have all three streams.

But yeah, so your nephews are in... They're in. So I was always jealous of the French immersion kids because when they got to high school, they nailed it. It was like grade 9, grade 10 French, like 100% they were getting. And the rest of us are getting 50s.

I have kids in French immersion. And you're right, because they learn history in French. So when you're right. Because they learn like history in French. So like when they're doing like, when we're doing geography and it's in English, they're learning the geography in French. Yeah, that's what it's, it blows my mind. My nephews learn math and science in French.

Like the teachers, math and science are hard enough, but like in, now in a different language. So shout out to that French camp. Absolutely. Camp Tournesol. Camp Tournesol. And by the way, Stu, if you ever want to buy, you know the Galleria Mall at Dufferin and DuPont?

Yes. Of course. Of course. So they're going to do, of course, I know, I don't know why I even ask. Of course you know it. Well, they're going to build this new like condo complex there. Oh, no. I know.

Oh, no. Except. Sounds like the plot of a great movie. Here's what I would say. We've got to save them all with one last dance competition. Oh, man. I think there is some kind of an art exhibit going on there. what I would say. We've got to save them all with one last dance competition. Oh, man. I think there is some kind of an art exhibit going on there. I don't know if they're trying to save them all. I think it's

too late, actually. I think it's all done. In fact, I'm certain this is happening, so we can't fight it. Is this a sponsored message as well? Since we can't fight it, we might as well invest in some property. So it's happening with or without us, too. So let's go buy some property there. If you are looking to buy and or sell in the next six months,

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stickeru.com I'm actually going there tomorrow to pick up a new wall decal for behind us. Oh, that'll be good. Yeah, that's happening tomorrow. I might buy a condo there. Just get one. Just to support the sponsors. Yeah. Here's what you're going to do, my friend.

Get the nephew at Camp Ternesol. Yes. Already signed up. Done. Cater the next bar mitzvah. The bar mitzvah is coming up. Cater it with palma pasta. Yeah. Okay.

You got the Great Lakes beer. That can be part of the festivities as well. And what else can we do? Fix my watch. If you have any jewelry. Don't you have some jewelry or something? Not really. But if I do get some, I will go to Richmond Hill,

and I will drop your name to get 15% off. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, my friend. So do it all, and I'll owe you one. That's fantastic. You ready to kick out some CanCon jams? I want to hear these stories. I love these songs.

You ready? Yeah, so this was interesting because, you know, if I ever do come back again, which I hope I will. I might have you in next week. I would love to just always kick out jams because there's nothing better than putting together random top 10 sort of playlists and it is like breaking them down with you right so you you invited me to sort of make like a 90s can con playlist so because i that's sort of my life your sweet spot sweet spot i really do and like we talked about the hip on yesterday's show as we go through this i'll tell you like how i'm

connected to some of these different bands but i didn't put the hip on this list purposely because i figured like that would be too obvious and i like that like yes too on the nose like i like there's no our lady peace i'd rather hear a pure song than a hip song you're in luck you're well let's start. You ready? Yeah, sure. Chocolare. And you know how this works. I'll just play it, and then when I sense that you have something to say, I'll just bring it down a bit so that people can hear you.

Sick line. Later, Drake would, of course, reference that in Back to Back. Yeah. That is a great line. Later, Drake would, of course, reference that in Back to Back. Yeah. That is a great line. I wonder if Cardinal did the beat for this. I think he did. I don't know, though. So you actually, you know, not that I'm ranking the songs in this top 10,

but this would arguably be number one on my list. It's just so dope. Amazing. You know, I love that 90s CanCon rap. That's like a whole subset. I was a big, very early 90s, very big Kish fan. Yo, Kish, you went to Africa? No, Japan. Return to learn.

Last science, balls of fire. Around the world, baby. And of course, he had that follow-up song with Lucy from Degrassi in the video. Do you remember this? Oh, wow. I love Lucy. In that final movie, The School's Out, she gets in that car accident, right? Because Wheels was drinking and hits her.

Is that right? Wheels. What a prick. You know what? Wheels is a prick, but then I get sad because I remember the guy who played Wheels was dead for like five years before we learned about it. God forbid that should happen to anybody else.

Neil Hope, I believe. Inspired first choice here. Let's Ride by Choclair and I believe I believe this song is actually on that it's come up in a few episodes but there was a

four disc collection called Oh What A Feeling it was CDs put out to showcase great Canadian music I think the people behind the Juno Awards put this together

and I believe they had a sense of like oh too much white music or something like that. Like, we better put a little bit of like non-rock. Some rap. Yeah. So they stick in, I think this makes it,

but they definitely put on a maestro fresh west, let your backbone slide. That's a classic. But that's the 80s. That's 89, yeah. Well, it's 89, y'all. Not Beethoven's 5th or 6th. I remember hearing this song and thinking like the track,

never mind the flow, but the track held up with its American counterparts of the time as far as like, this is a sick track. Most def, yeah. Don't ask me why these songs, well, Cardinal did have an American hit or two But most of these like songs

Didn't really break in the States I used to try to play this For my friends in California But I don't know if they were having it But I love it Swing down sweet carrot stop Swing down sweet carrot stop

Swing down sweet carrot stop Yo it's the ninth inning There's two outs ahead of home Jared, stop. Swing down. Jared, stop. Yes, sir. Yo, it's the ninth inning. There's two outs ahead of home run. To the left field, I got it at the fillet. Perfect line. You know, I had Jerry Howarth in here last week. That's unbelievable that you had Jerry Howarth in here.

Jack Clare coming in at number 10. You ready for number nine? No, no, hold on. Jerry Howarth. Jerry Howarth. He didn't get to do the touch-em-all joke call. That was Tom Cheek. Definitely Tom Cheek.

I wonder if Jerry Howarth was jealous. Did you ask him about that? Well, back then, the deal was Tom was there first, first of all, and Tom got to do the ninth inning. The one that's interesting is the 92 World Series, okay, because that's an extra innings game, and it was set up so the inning when Dave Carter hits the double, that's actually Jerry's inning. Because the way that they

have set innings that they do. So Tom always gets the ninth. But Jerry, was it the 10th? I think it was the 10th? I don't remember. Anyway, the extra inning game, I think it was the 10th. 10th or 11th, but I think 10th. So Dave Winfield hits a double to put the Jays up by two. Oh yeah, right, right, right.

And now Mike Timlin is going to close this out. Okay, you might remember Otis Nixon at the plate. Yep, yep. Joe Carter's playing first. Yep. Which is amazing that we need

that Johnny O, that guy who hit, oh that was 93, he hit the 363. Okay, never mind Dave. At least I thought it was funny we'd take the 363 average out of the lineup

so we could get Molitor in there. But that's a whole other thing. So Joe's at first and it's now Tom, no, it's now Jerry's turn to call the inning. We've never won the World Series. This is

a massive moment. And Jerry decides he doesn't even tell Tom he's doing this. He just says something like, and here to bring you home, Tom Cheek. Wow. Gives it up like the classiest move and Tom calls that first World Series victory. Here to bring you home, Tom Cheek. Wow. Gives it up like the classiest move. Classy Jerry. And Tom calls that first World Series victory.

Yeah. Wow. There she goes. That's right. And I was going to show you. I picked the wrong book. How many books I got back here? Jerry have a book?

Yeah. So this is it. Hello, friends. Yeah. Hello, friends. Stories from my life and Blue Jays baseball. I'd love to read that book. Dude, is that Costco for like 17 bucks right now?

I thought you were going to give that to me. I can't because that's signed for Brian Gerstein, who's going to sell you the condo at the Gathering Hall. Gerstein's always getting the good stuff. I know. Damn right he is. Yeah, so Jerry's amazing. Amazing.

There she goes. Well, that's when Joey Batz flips the bat. That's the call. There she goes. Well, that's when Joey Bats flips the bat. That's the call. There she goes. You ready for another jam? Sure. How does this not just make you happy? It's my band, brother.

And their sound changed a lot after this. You know, they brought in the horns and the brass Yeah What an era Famously This is Sloan by the way Coax me And famously

With a new Some publication named this The top Canadian album of all time Wow Good music video too publication name this the top Canadian album of all time. Wow. Good music video too. And no joke. I quoted before I knew you wanted to hear this song.

I quoted it. A line from the song when I was talking about the tragically hip, because there's a line in the song. It's not the band I hate. It's their fans. That's in the song, right? It's not the band I hate. Yeah's their fans. That's in the song, right? It's not the band I hate.

Yeah. That reminds me of Hip. The Hip. You hate the Hip's fans? Yeah, a lot of them. They have these like drunken frat boy fans that would like mess up all the shows I was going to. Yo. Oh, yes.

There it is. Great line. And before you tell me why you love Sloan so much, as if you need to explain, I should tell you that Chris Murphy has been a guest on this show. Wow. Just great music videos. This is actually... I'm getting emotional just thinking about how amazing a time life was

when songs like this were on 102.1 The Edge. Canadian music was perhaps never more relevant than in that era because, especially rock music, Canadian rock acts were legit. They were making good music. They were filling up clubs. You and me both, brother. I'm so nostalgic for that exact period

and it has a lot to do with the ages we were at that time. Yeah, so I was probably with Cam Gordon at this concert. We had a friend named Farbzy who used to get tickets for every show that came in no matter who was playing and we would go to all of them. But I remember seeing Sloan in London, Ontario, at a Western Ontario gig.

What a great one. And the thing that blew me away by them was their talent live. I remember they'd rotate on the stage, like who played what instrument, who sang. I'd never seen that before. You're right. They were kind of one of the first bands I remember they'd rotate on the stage, like who played what instrument, who sang. I'd never seen that before. You're right. They were kind of one of the first bands I remember where you might have an album with 12 cuts on it

and you'd have like three cuts from each member of the band. By the way, I've seen them as recently, I saw them at the Phoenix like four or five months ago. I would have liked to have gone to that. Yeah, I'm still checking them out. You went with Greenstein to that one too? No, I took my buddy Elvis, actually. Stoico?

Yeah. Is that your buddy, Elvis Stoico? No. Elvis Stoico. Elvis Stoico always wore the leather jacket, right? He did a cool kind of an Elvis Presley kind of thing. Sloan was really cool too, because they had this really cool... They sold cool very well.

And I don't know how cool they were in real life, because I didn't spend time with them, and I didn't have them on my podcast. But boy, they had cool down to a T. That 70s sort of... You know, those haircuts the the videos all had this well you know why because they're from the maritimes yeah i think that's just the way over there yeah their next album with the blue cover what's it called uh of chord one chord to

another that is a classic record like that's has so many good songs on it and none of them are on this playlist because it Coke's me. You're right. That's where you get the horns and stuff. Can I ask you though, if you could only have one Sloan album? It would be that one. Want to hear my answer?

I think it's controversial maybe. Smeared. I want the first one because I want to feel what I felt when I first heard Underwhelmed on 102.1 for the first time. That's the album for me. Great song. It was like their grunge album or whatever.

I should have picked that song. Yeah, fantastic. And that's the album for me. Great song. It was like their grunge album or whatever. I should have picked that song. Yeah, fantastic. And that's a Chris Murphy song, so we went deep, man. Go find that episode. We went deep into that one. Are you... Oh, what an inspired choice.

You ready? Yes. Oh, yes. How can you not have this? It's a little bit of a sellout move to put this on the list, but fuck it. I'll allow it.

Hey, Matt. Yeah, champ? Hey, have you talked to Mark lately? I haven't really talked to him, but he looks pretty down. Look, we're both smiling. Instant happiness just hearing it. Well, maybe we should cheer him up then.

What do you suppose we should do? Well, does he like butter tarts? I was lying on the grass on Sunday morning of last week. I love it, man. And dodging in my self-defeat. Big hit song. My mind was thugged all least

but all twisted wrong beat. Uncomfortable on three feet deep. My mind was thought Don't least the birds Don't twist it wrong Beat Uncomfortable I'm three feet deep There's something just so earnest about this song too. It's like these guys are not like the best singers.

They're just doing it, man. There's something really earnest about it. They're brother-sister, right? Yeah, I think so. Costanzos? Right? Costanzo?anzos Right Costanzo Not like George Costanzo

I can picture the video They're like riding Like motor scooters Like in the beach Well the famous story Was they took all that Record label money To make like a video

And they Just spent it Having a fun with their friends Or something like that So Great great song And just Just

Puts a smile on your face. You're right. She's not particularly good. He's not particularly good. But it all comes together in that beat and it's fantastic. What's the Montreal band shit, what's it called? The Stereo Mike

Stereo MCs? No, not Stereo MCs. That's connected. Stereo Phonic? Stereo MCs had connected, right? Yeaho MCs. That's connected. Stereo Phonic? Stereo MCs had connected, right? Yeah. I think I heard it the other day and it took me right back too. I'm not talking about Stereo MCs. What's the... This is killing me. There's a band out of Montreal

that has a song that reminded me of this one around the same time, but it'll come to me later. Stereo Mike? Hi, later. Stereo Mike. It opens with, Hi, I'm Stereo Mike. Drinking in LA. Ah, yeah.

Brand Van 3000. Brand Van. Yeah. Anyway, neither here nor there except to say that this is a great jam. That was a big hit too. Yeah. So this, of course, is the sample from like,

Mo, mo, mo, how do you like it? How do you like it? Yes. I'm not sure I knew that, actually. I might not have known that. Did they ever follow this up? I was going to say, I don't believe we've ever heard another big...

Because I definitely, back then, you had to buy the CD to get the whole thing. And if you put your track as track one and it's this song good luck getting to track two I always think back to

like I was watching a lot of much music back then and it's like okay this video was played all the time but name a second video

from Len I can't can you? I don't think so but I mean listen it's like that Donnie Darko thing like do you really need

another song when this is the song that you have do you really need another movie if you have that you know what I mean damn right man

and that wicked ass cover of Tears for Fears yeah unbelievable Mad World Mad World by Jules Verne or something

no he wrote Gary Jules he wrote 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, right? That's a completely different guy. Dude, we should just do this. Once in a while, pop over. We just play jams and shoot the shit like this. I'm down.

I need to break the record like your Massey Hall record. You got a long way to go. Actually, who's got that record now? I can't count. Hebsey's been on a lot, but he doesn't count anymore. He lives here. Damien Cox just came over for the fourth time. Wilner's been over about five times.

We'll see what we can do. I should do one with Wilner. Dude, seriously. Did you know this part? No. A little bonus for you there, Steve. Nice. The album cut. Hey.

Huh. Wow. This could have been like their second song. Okay, brother. Let's dive into another. Ooh. This is a good one, brother. Let's dive into another. Woo! This is a good one, too. There's a wrestling reference in here, by the way.

We'll see if I can pick it up. This is sort of like the We are the world for Canadian rap Right That would be the northern lights This is northern touch So when you hear, you got to peer over the ledge To get a glance, to know who is the man with the talons Flippin' the words like my body on the apparatus Sky's the limit, so we're bound to break through the stratus

With these rhymes and the classic Forget the fast or the fashion Step in some makeup or like a full-on fashion The base of the foundation No time wasted Firewalk, we trailblazin' Burn to the next destination Flexin' on this world exploration

Teamed with the best in the nation Yes, and who that be? Custom design, fine rhymes into salary. All the way from T-Dot to the Van City All-Star. Food boys freak you like a fantasy. Word up. It's coming. Northwest Van City.

Oh, desire. I like chilling. Monday night, we're all watching. Yeah, there you go. When it's in town, my people's know. I just be regular. So haters start dissing. But steady. And a skydome drop, too. Yeah, there you go. And a Sky Dome drop, too. Sick. Nice.

So, Shawclare did the Joe Carter reference. And then he also did the Monday Night Rock Sky Dome reference. And he did the Sky Dome reference. Nice. You know how cool... This was, like Released during Wrestling's second Golden era age So you had the

You know your Hulkamania age Where you went and saw It at the exhibition Yeah with Macho Man And all that stuff This is the second age Where you know

The Stone Cold Steve Austin age Where wrestling was so big again And I remember The Rascals Who are credited with This song They did a video with Bret the Hitman

Hardin in it. I don't know if you remember that but Harv Glazer who did Jack of All Trades he directed that video.

Wow. And there was a DMX song that came out in the States the same year with the exact same beat as this by the way. It was like Get at at me, dog.

Get at me, dog. I liked DMX, and then that Ja Rule came along and took his voice or something. Right. Earl Simmons. Earl Simmons. Did you know that you mentioned Bret the Hitman Hart is the only WWF slash WWE wrestler to appear on what television show? Lonesome Dove. The Simpsons.

The Simpsons is correct. But also Lonesome Dove. Did not know that So this is something That you need to know That the last two songs Len and this one I was already living in LA At this point

So it shows you That my Canadian pride I was still paying enough attention to what, this is pre-internet, so whenever I would come home I would just try to go to the record store

and what's the latest songs and make sure I went back to LA with all the stuff to listen to and go through. I always assumed Steal My Sunshine was a US hit as well. It was a US hit.

That one was. But songs like this, obviously I didn't discover until I as well. It was a US hit. That one was. But songs like this, obviously I didn't discover until I was here. This was big back. I used to listen to a lot of rap and it was common for the final cut on the album would be like the dancers, the DJ, the brother.

I still remember Big Daddy would say, his brother would come in, Little Daddy Shame or something. That's hilarious. And yeah, there'd be a collective and they just each do a verse. It's like past the mic. The posse cut, right.

That was a big deal back then. And, you know, I think it made its way onto, you know, like I mentioned Kish earlier, like Order from Chaos, I think closes with one. Maestro would have one, I think. Maybe Easy Does It. Remember Easy Does It and Does It Easy? But then you had like Wu-Tang clan turn that whole formula on its head by just having every song be a posse cut that's

like the whole yeah and then yeah that's a whole different kettle of fish you're right absolutely but uh that's a kettle of fish kettle of fish brother if you're a small kettle what kind of fish are in that kettle i've never stopped to think about it they're obviously guppies or something but uh okay so i have the song you wanted from this next artist this artist comes up a lot of my show because the song you said i could use if i couldn't find this one is one of my favorite songs of all time oh wow so let's play well thank god i wrote it down let's play your cut here I wrote it down. Let's play your cut here.

This is a tough one to find. I'd rip it from YouTube. It doesn't exist on any streaming platforms. I have my sources. I just asked Hayden himself. No, I'm just kidding. Hayden Desser. I need something to go, yeah Got me in this mess Feeling this and that

Stu, tell me again why Hayden wasn't a bigger star. Dude, I love Hayden. Hayden might be my all-time favorite Canadian artist. Wow. He was so amazing. And you know, he was signed to Neil Young's label. Yep, I do. I mean, that may have been

the reason why things worked out the way they did, because he was, he sort of took that non-corporate, he didn't go the corporate route. Yeah, but your point there, he's still very active. It's not like he died or died. No, no, I'm just saying that. No, I'm saying he didn't go,

he didn't sell out in any way, shape, or form. This is the closest thing he ever went. And this was a Steve Buscemi film. And I only saw this movie because of this song. Yeah. And there's lines from the... Dialogue from the movie in the song, which is...

I've never seen that done before. He's like, I believe it's coming up now. It's like lines from the movie are the lyrics to the song. When he says, you've got a pretty face, pretty like your name. That's like. You have a pretty name. There it is. Pretty like your name

Let's play the game You know what song did that? What? Prince's Bat Dance. Ah, wow. That's the best song, too. We should go through that next. This town is an enema.

I think we could do it off the top of our heads, maybe. Vicky Vale. Vicky Vale. Stop the press. Who's that? I like Batman. Seriously. I want a Rune Hayden song with this Batman.

I know. Jesus, man. Wait, so is this the song that's your favorite song, or the other one? The other one's my favorite, too. As bad as it seems? As bad as it seems, yeah. this the song that's your favorite song, or the other one? The other one's my favorite, too. As bad as it seems? As bad as it seems, yeah. Are you playing that? From Everything I Long For.

Is that a bonus track? I could throw it up later, yeah. I had it in, and then I found this, and then I threw it out, but I can get it back. My personal collection is sitting on this hard drive here, so I can dig it up. When you talk about this era where sort of quote-unquote grunge music was dominating the pop charts, this is probably the most produced of the Hayden songs. The rest of them are pretty much him and his acoustic guitar. Yeah, very true.

He stood out amongst all of that other music because of how, again, I'll use the word earnest his music was. I absolutely would put on his albums and listen start to finish on repeat over and over and over and over again. Well, it all comes full circle because we talked about, you know, the influence that 102.1 had on us and our musical tastes. And we are going to very shortly discuss a band called Head, two H's. And Thornhill. I first heard of Hayden because he had a cut

on a New Music Search CD from I think 1993. And that New Music Search winner was Head with Happy. Which is great too. Hayden also from Thornhill. And Head also from, both of them from Thornhill.

And that's, we'll get, oh wait, we'll tell, we'll do this cut now because this entire band has been on this show. But first, let's just shout out to Head. that's, we'll get, oh, wait, we'll tell, we'll do this cut now because this entire band has been on this show. Well, first,

let's just shout out to Head. Absolutely. Before we do that, shout out to Hayden. I've watched on YouTube because I was looking up to find what's Hayden doing and I see he was playing

at Massey Hall. I wish I was at that show, but it looks like he also is playing like random, like small, he just shows up in small places and plays.

If that happens, somebody somebody please let me know. I've got to see this guy. I'll go with you. I believe that show that he did at Massey Hall, I believe with a whole bunch of Canadian artists to raise money for special needs children. I want to say autistic children, but I can't remember the exact cause.

But it was very well attended and a lot of kick-ass musicians. I think Hayden might put that together, I think. He's the man. He's the fucking man. And this band, I love this band. I've had them all in here, so we'll talk about that. But let's get the jam started

and we'll talk about Rusty. Oh, yeah. Ha ha. This is a great one. From Fluke. Great album. Lots of hits. Hit laden, yeah.

Groovy Dead. Oh, so much on that, actually. Misogyny. Yeah. We'll be right back. Amazing. Amazing. Wake Me, that was on flute. Yeah. And if I fall asleep, won't you wake me?

So I was at Canadian Music Week a few years ago, and at 2 o'clock in the morning, I wander into this bar. Okay, stop. The Mod Club? May have been. Okay, continue. I don't know May have been. Okay, continue. I don't know if it was

the Mod Club. Because I was there. I was at the show two in the morning. I think it was at the Bovine Sex Club, actually. Okay, then that was the show before this show.

No, it may have been the Mod Club. Okay, because, yeah. All I know is two o'clock in the morning, all of a sudden, Rusty goes on stage and plays a full set.

This whole album start to finish at two o'clock in the morning. I was in heaven. I was like, what's going on right now? This is amazing. Was it literally like two winters ago or something? Yes.

I was at the show. Holy shit. Because The Rock and Oshawa presented this show. And my buddy Bingo Bob scored me. It was at 2 o'clock in the morning they went on stage. I feel like it wasn't that late, but it was definitely late. Yeah, okay. I thought it was like 11.30.

No, no, no. They went at 2 in the morning. So it's funny you have this band on your list and the next band. I almost should have flipped it because a member of the next band is in this band. Wait, what's going on with Rusty now? Okay, Ken, the main guy. I have somebody. I got to catch up.

So they've been on the show. I got all the answers. So the main guy, Ken. Ken McNeil, I think. He is a bricklayer in Sudbury. He lives in Sudbury. He lays bricks, which is a good living. And he seems happy.

He's raising a family there. And once in a blue moon, he comes to Toronto and plays a show or two. So they kind of do these, sort of like the Watchmen. I know she didn't have any Watchmen on your list, but the drummer from the Watchmen was just here, and he's a real estate agent,

and they do the same thing. Once in a while, they get together and do a show or two, but they all have real jobs, and then they go do the band on their spare time or whatever. So that's Rusty. They're all doing other things, and then they get together and be Rusty once in a while.

I wonder, like, did there... You know, they were real hit songs as far as that era goes. Like, there's four singles on that album. I think there might be five, because California Misogyny, Wake Me, Groovy Dead. Groovy Dead. Is there something about, I got to see the playlist again, but Fluke might have had another one.

But yeah, your point's valid. Do you think they made a lot of money on that? No, because shortly after the band breaks up in whatever it was, mid-90s or whatever, Ken is a short order cook for a restaurant in Blue West Village. Wow. True story. In fact, it's funny this is interesting because you're talking about you know comic con whatever and i'm thinking i love

rusty i love rusty too i love they're great guys too scott scott's in this band uh he's the guy from the doughboys okay so he's scott mccullough i believe this is there's you're giving away spoilers here because i've got the Doughboys on my list. But I think one of them was married to the ex-husband of one of my friends. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's Cantor.

That's the big guy. So the main guy in the Doughboys is Josh Cantor, I want to say his name is. He's got... Ex-wife is a celebrity. But I believe... Tell me if I'm wrong. I believe he's currently with

Don Draper's second wife on Mad Men. Wow. Jessica Perry? I didn't know that. Not January Jones, the second one. So the Canadian. I believe they have a kid together. His name is Josh.

He was in All Systems Go, I believe. Because in this, when we do Head, we can talk about the other band. I get the names confused, but By Divine Right. I find the names of some of these Canadian bands confusing a bit because the guy Josh Cantor goes into All Systems Go and Brendan Canning from Head goes into By Divine Right. The names of my head get crossed a lot.

But let's start Doughboys and we'll pick this up. But we both head get crossed a lot but let's start doughboys and we'll pick this up but we both love rusty a lot yes and i fluke i will put fluke against any album like i would i'm a big pearl jam guy love nirvana stone temple pilot i put fluke against any of them yeah well it's a great album and it's it's just uh takes me back to that era to that cam gordon era of my life. Cam, are you listening? I bet you he is listening. I'm doing his podcast next week, I think, with him and the drummer from The Watchmen.

Wow. Cam's doing a podcast? At Twitter Canada. Wow, that son of a bitch. I think it's next week. Yeah, why? He didn't invite you on? Never. Because you're too high profile for him.

He's guys like me. I'll take that. Let me start Doughboys and we'll talk more about that. Doughboys was a hell of a live act, by the way. Well, I remember Shine was a mega fucking hit.

Yeah. I don't know if I'm trying to remember if I've seen them live. I'm sure I have. They were amazing live. I remember going, I just wanted their autographs. Like, that's how much of a fan I was.

And they're a Montreal band, right? Yeah. This song has a lot of meaning to me, actually. All right, then I'll shut up and let's hear from Stu. So this song is called Neighborhood Villain

by the Doughboys. I was in a movie called The Boys Club, which is like a Canadian classic cult film from the 90s, where I met one of my best friends, Devin Sawa. Chris Penn also in the movie Rest in Peace. Right.

Dominic Zampronia who went on to a career as a hunky duck on General Hospital. It was like a stand-by-me sort of Canadian version. And this song was the big song in the movie too. The Boys Club? Yeah. I gotta dig that up. You should.

Canadian classic. I mean, Chris Penn is from fucking Res The Boys Club? Yeah. I gotta dig that up. You should. Canadian classic. I mean, Chris Penn is from fucking Reservoir Dogs. Yeah. Nice guy, Eddie. And so, I already loved this band

in this song and when it showed up in the movie, I was freaking out. I love this sound. Okay, this is a very 90s sound we're hearing right now.

I still love it. Yeah. I love this. sound we're hearing right now. I still love it. Yeah. I love this. Not a bad CanCon list from Stu Stone on this edition. Love the 90s. The chronic generation.

So the Doughboys, I hope I don't confuse all my bands. So this is Josh. I hope I got his name right. We should be Googling this stuff. Josh Cantor. Cantor is a lead singer. He's the guy with the dreadlocks. Yeah, he had dreads.

You can't do that anymore, right? Is that cultural appropriation? I don't know. Of its time. Of its time. And he's the one who went on to do All Systems Go, which I saw them open for Pearl Jam in 98 at Molson Park in Barrie. And Hayden was on that bill.

Sick show. Back then in that era, there wasn't really bad shows you could go to in Toronto. They would just mishmash all these bands on any given night and you would have a great show. Cracker was on that bill. They were probably the headliner. No, the Pearl Jam show.

This is the weird thing is, Eddie wanted to have one of his favorite bands be the opening act for them because there were two stages at play here and he went with um what's the band uh in uh fast times at richmond high that uh he had tickets to see uh surrender cheap trick cheap trick that's funny funny way to get to a band's name remember the guy had tickets yeah? Yeah, Cheap Trick. Right. I saw Cheap Trick open for Pearl Jam, too.

That's sick. But, dude, bands like this band would just kind of come, and they'd have a big hit or two, maybe three, and then they'd kind of break up and form other bands, and it was a strange scene, man. I wonder why that is. Because there's no money in it. I think it was expensive to tour and so few CanCon bands made money.

Even Sloan. But we were kids and we were fooled by it because I thought they were big stars. I think that's MuchMusic's fault. I said this to Chris Murphy. I said, you know, we see you on MuchMusic all the fucking time. They were played all the time. They had so many big Much Music hits.

They were on 102.1 all the time. We assumed they had a lot of money. But then you get a reality check, man. Chris Murphy will tell you, this is what I live on. This is a documentary. Yeah, it really is. Molly Johnson was on and we had a similar discussion and I got some choice quotes from her about how there's no money in the game

for 99% of these kick-ass bands. There's no money. You got to get a... Well, it's just an entertainment industry as a whole. But if you get the U.S. hit, there's money in it. Like Tyler Stewart was on here recently. He did two and a half hours, by the way. You should listen to that episode.

The U.S. hit that you just point, you hit the nail on the head right there. Yeah, U.S. hit. That's the differentiator, I think. And there's no U.S. hit for bands like this in Rusty, in Hayden. So getting back to that Hayden song for a second, Trees Lounge, which is a song you cannot get anywhere on any streaming platform,

another Canadian hit that's not on here because it's in the 80s, but you know Kim Mitchell. Of course. You a Kim Mitchell guy? I saw him two summers ago at the park down the street for free, and I do enjoy some Kim Mitchell shit. Yeah, I mean, as I got older, I liked him more. But he had a song called Atlanta Loves Me.

I don't know if you know that one. You got to check out that song. Okay. It's so good. It's so good, It's so good. But you can't get it anywhere. Like it doesn't exist on streaming sites. So Hayden, Tree's Lounge, and Atlanta Loves Me, Kim Mitchell.

Two songs that need to be on streaming sites. But Atlanta Loves Me is a sick song. I'm going to dig it up. I probably know it and I don't know it. But did it get radio play? Yes. Okay. And what, like Q107? Yes. Yeah. They still probably play it. Yeah, they probably know it and I don't know it, but did it get radio play? Yes. Okay. Cause I'm what? Like Q and a seven.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. They still probably play it. Yeah. They probably played it that night. Anyway, shout out to the dough boys.

So good. Great live band. Great song. And here's another great, great, great band. I love doing your show because it has nothing. It's like forget any agenda. You just come here and just listen to good music.

Get free beer, free lasagna, treble charger. Even Grey Bull. I finally found that I tried to look down What I lived for That's far astray It's not today What's there to say? Your reason's sounding There's no one around that I'd live for You're gone away Not meant to stay

Away So good. Not meant to stay away When you look up Travel Chargers, that's the first song that comes up. Red? Yeah. Hauntingly beautiful, Red. But a lot of great jams from this band, for sure. I've seen these guys a few times, but I went to a lot of edge fests, and these guys would invariably, inevitably end up on the bill at these edge fests. Great band. I remember a video of them with Hayden making a cameo.

Do you remember this at all? I don't know. Like on Queen Street or something? Anyway, maybe it's a... You know, that video might be change of heart. I could be mixing up my Canton might be Change of Heart. I could be mixing up my CanCon bands. Change of Heart. Do you remember Change of Heart? No.

Where are these guys from? They're Toronto guys, aren't they? They're Toronto? I think so. I should know that, right? I don't know. Here, Google them. Trouble Charger.

Where are they from? I feel like they're Toronto guys. Got no bars. No. You should know. I know the wife. Oh, yeah. I'm on.

That's right. There should be bars. I'll reset. Yeah, I'm on... It's right. This should be Barista. I'll reset. Oh, like I don't have the internet right in front of me here. Okay, hold on.

And now, you know, you look at CanCon, and it's like, if I was to put together a CanCon list of Canadian acts, it's basically like you're the top 40 of American charts for the last like 10 years is all Canadian acts. Yeah, like The Weeknd. The Weeknd, Drake, Bieber. And the dude who was at that Raptor game besides Drake, the guy from... Daddy Rumble. No. Okay, we talked about this last time.

We talked about that last time. I've had, like I had Mishimi on the show. Yeah, safe and sound. I liked, yeah, safe, right, safe, Rumble. No one knows where this guy is. Like I'm trying to track this guy down. Like I want to get Rumble MC on that because there was Rumble and Strong

and then Safe was everywhere and there's the two versions of it, including Cam Gordon likes to point out that the one version with the woman's voice, the one that we all love, that's one of his bands, and I can't remember which band it is, but they're sampling or covering or something like that. But Travel Charger, before I forget, is a Sault Ste. Marie band

formed in 1992. Wow. So there you go. Tax credit for whoever up there in the. Wow. So there you go. Good tax credit for whoever up there in the Sioux. You want to get, this is going to sound dirty, but it's not,

but you want to get some head? I'd love to. Love these guys. This just makes me happy. Going where I can't see Look at my gauge It's on a G And the mosh pit goes wild. So, Noah Mintz is the lead singer of Head. Thornhill guy. Thornhill guy. Thornhill legend.

You know, it was Moxie, Fruvis, and Head and Hayden were the three bands that made it out of Thornhill. Wow. But his brother, Billy Mintz, was the student council president of our high school. And now he's a film director. And I know him very well

I've been friends with the guy for 20 years but his brother is Noah Mintz the lead singer of Head and all of my years knowing Billy I never once told him how much I loved Head or his brother never once because me and Billy have our own relationship

that's separate from my love for Noah Mintz so I'm randomly at Soho House in Toronto. Shout out to Adam Rodness, my partner, who has the membership. And who do I see there? Noah Mintz, lead singer of Head. Wow. And I couldn't help it.

I had to go over and I was like, listen, man, this is going to be weird, but I fucking love you. I'm the biggest fan. I went to all your shows. He was so sweet. He's still very much involved in music. He's very involved in like vinyl, I want to say.

Like he has one of the last companies that makes vinyl records in Toronto. Wow. And he mixes them. He mixes the albums and puts them on vinyl and remasters stuff. I forget exactly what it was,

but I remember seeing these guys at HMV. 333 Young. That one? Yep. Yeah. Cam Gordon.

This must be around, so that new music search that they won, which was a big thing for them because it lets them, I guess it gives them money they can put towards the big album. for them because it lets them, I guess it gives them money they can put towards

the big album. Right. But Happy, that song Happy, it's still my favorite head song. I love it. And also Fireman

and the stuff from their first album too. Fireman. I have a confession to make. Yeah. That's like 25 years in the making. Let's hear it.

So, and this is like, I'm not, I'm very, this is not a good confession. This is very bad. So all of our, me and all of our friends, we all went to see Head in concert. I think it was at like the warehouse or something. And there was a crew of like 13 of us.

And one of the guys, two of the guys in our crew, I don't want to stick a name on it, but it wasn't me, that's for sure. But they went to the merch table, and they stole Head's entire merch box. Oh, my God. And we all got the shirts. Everybody in our high school had the shirts. And it would have been so easy for Head to solve the crime by just coming to Thor and Lee

and seeing everybody wearing the shirt. But it was like a peach-colored head shirt with their logo on it. And it must have been 50 shirts. And it probably was so heartbreaking for the band because now that I'm older and I realize that's probably how they made their money was on those. I can tell you for sure that

was a big part of it. That probably ruined that gig for them. And it wasn't me, but I definitely know who did it. You know what? You could connect the dot that that instance is why Head didn't make it. It's possible. They lost the money on those t-shirts and it was such a

point of contention for them. First of all it's confession's good for the soul like i feel so good getting it out there and i didn't tell noah mince this obviously but because there are people listening who probably could get this back to the band now we never mentioned this i mentioned all systems no by divine right so uh do i come yeah always conflated okay so uh brendan canning who is uh a founder of head uh goes on to do uh by divine right but of course he co-founds uh broken social scene wow so broken social scene exists because of head because of head so i just want to say one thing the big heist of the head merchandise that

took place this was did not come from a malicious place, obviously, because the goal wasn't to fuck the band, because these were kids. They didn't know. They thought these guys were rich. Right. They thought they were fucking the t-shirt guy. We thought bands or hits that we loved were rich.

I agree with you. They thought that they were fucking over the t-shirt guy, not the band. Second of all, it was done out of the love for the band because they wanted the t-shirts, and they wanted everybody to have the t-shirts. To promote the band. Second of all, it was done out of the love for the band because they wanted the t-shirts and they wanted everybody to have the t-shirts. To promote the band. Yeah, so we looked like Thor and Lee

the next day looked like everybody was wearing that shirt. Right. There was literally everybody had that shirt. And it was all from that heist. The guy that perpetrated the heist I'm not going to name his name. It's Cam Gordon, isn't it? No, but I'm sure Cam had that shirt. And it was all from that heist. The guy that perpetrated the heist, I'm not going to name his name.

Yeah, it's Cam Gordon, isn't it? No, but I'm sure Cam had the shirt. Cam was one of the guys that had the shirt. I think he still wears it. The guy now is working as a sushi chef, I believe, and he lives in Japan now. So you can't even extradite him to bring him up on charges.

Wow. But again, the same way you can say that this criminal act that you guys perpetrated there, that that was responsible for the demise of Head, also means that that act is why we have

broken social scene. You can connect dots and say there's no broken social scene if you guys don't steal. I want to apologize to Head for that. And I'm sure that

now looking back at it it probably was a devastating thing for the band to have all of their merch lifted from the table and it's awful it is an awful fucking thing and it has been eating me up to the point where like now all these years later to make this confession it feels like it place to do it, buddy. I'm glad. It feels good. I promise you, I swear to you, I did not commit the crime or plan the crime, but I definitely got a shirt. I was going to say,

it's not like you refused to wear the shirt. No, I definitely was like aiding and abetting based on the fact that like, yes. So for my role in it, I will take responsibility

and I want to apologize. And I'm so sorry to you guys. I loved you. I still love you. And when Toronto Mike asked me to put a list of CanCon songs together, Head was the first thing that I thought of to put on this list because that's how much we loved these guys. We went to all of their shows, literally all of their shows.

We probably saw them more you know more times in their family so shout out to head apologies and i feel so much better having gotten that off my chest i'm serious no and i'm i'm glad you finally came clean. That was very pure of you. I like what you did there. I don't. It's cheesy. See, this sounds like an American hit. Pure.

102.1. For sure. Now, these guys would be played right alongside like 13 engines. You remember 13? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they're, of course, moist and all that. But these guys are from Vancouver, I believe, like the West Coast. Much West. With Terry David Mulligan.

Their bigger hit, I think, maybe this is the biggest hit. The other one I always remember is the, is it Anna was a speed freak. Oh, that's them. I believe that's them. Have you ever seen Pure? Yep.

Saw them live with Cam Gordon. And didn't steal any shirts from the merch table at the Pure show. Happy to report. Good. good if a song if a band had like one song on 102.1 even if it was like a mild hit

you would go to the concert you know what I mean they had a concert and I'm trying to think there were a lot of bands where you heard the one song but nothing else like one that jumps out at me

is the Waltons wow remember the Waltons yeah yeah yeah so they played so it got on high rotation Naked Rain you know

do you remember Naked Rain anyway I gotta dig that one up we could do this forever so Lick My Tractor was the name of the CD but I don't think anything else on that CD

got on the got on the frequency. 102.1. The Canada rock scene was thriving. Who was making the money if the bands weren't? This is a documentary. Well, it's expensive to tour. I ask these questions, right?

I ask, you know, acid test? Yeah. So they came on, and I asked them. They said they actually stopped a tour once because it was costing them too much money because the way Canada is

it's like a lot it's we're spread out and to tour this country is very expensive so if you have a much music hit or and you have

like it's just the nature of this country being only 30 something million people like there's more people in California yeah

and it's all concentrated in California. Like, it's just very difficult to tour this thing. You know who's been on this show a couple of times? I know she didn't make your list. Your very male-dominated list, but that's okay. But Biff Naked. Oh, yeah, she was in The Boys Club. She was in the movie.

What? Yeah, she plays the liquor store. I consider her a friend now. Tell her that The Boys Club dropped that to her. With Chris Penn. I should have put her on the list. It's a male-dominated list.

Why is that? I don't recall any female rock singers other than Biff Naked. I just kicked out the female rock jams. So I should be able to answer. There's a few.

Well, Alanis. But that's sort of poppy. answer. There's a few. Well, Alanis. But that's sort of poppy. That wasn't a 102.1 jam. That was like a mixed 99.9. Sure. Chum FM. CHFI FM 98. Yeah.

But there were a few. They'll come to me, but there were a few. There were some American female acts. There was the Breeders. Cannonball. There was Letters to Cleo. And Cedar from. Cedar is neither.

Right. What are they called again? Veruca Salt. Veruca Salt. Yeah. Elastica. And of course, the Distillers. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And. Sonic Youth. Yeah. You could get. I mean, there was a female voice in there for sure I still remember Cool Thing with Chuck D's cameo

which was like what the fuck Chuck D's in here tell it like it is amazing that might be it now there's more in fact I'm going to start the song and then I'm going to find out my L7 bricks are heavy that was by L7. L7, yeah. L7 is Bricks Are Heavy.

That was by L7, right? Pretend That They're Dead. I think the album was Bricks Are Heavy. This is all like the, I'm basically thinking of like whatever, like the Lollapalooza 94. Oh, Hole. Did you say Hole? Yeah, I said Hole.

Oh, sorry. Okay, of course, Hole. But there's one female singer from, I feel like she's from Alberta, that I had some hits. Rita McNeil. No. Jan Arden. No. Jan Arden's a big fucking star now. I hear she's from Alberta, that I had some hits. Rita McNeil. Jan Arden. No. Jan Arden's a big

fucking star now. I hear she's a TV star now. Katie Lang. Katie Lang, great voice. But I don't remember any 102.1 airplane. Songbird. She was my jam when I was really young because she did Hippo in My Bathtub. Alphabet Soup.

Alphabet Soup was a big one, but the other one I liked was Teddy Bear Picnic. Yeah, today's the day, the teddy bear. So I was in the cartoon, The Teddy Bear's Picnic. There was a cartoon based around that song. It's amazing. You're well connected. Hey, this guy's been on my show. Also, Thornhill, by the way, Ann Murray.

Thornhill native. And she's a big-time golfer now. Is she? Yeah, that's what I'm told. Now, this artist I'm about to play that you chose this 90s jam, he not only has been on this show a couple of times. This is my bonus jam, right?

Yeah, and then I have a bonus on the bonus. Great. But this jam, this guy, he kicked out the jam. So he came on and played his 10... We played his 10 favorite songs of all time, just like you did, the first visit. So this gentleman has kicked out the jams on Toronto Mike. You ready?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's so dope Certs without the red sin Excellent He's so dope. Search without the red sin. Excellent. That was probably the first time he pulled that word. I was about to say, you don't hear that word from this gentleman typically. I'll tell you something funny about this.

So when I was rapping, I was living in LA. I was living at this place called the Oakwoods. You ever heard of the Oakwoods? Nope. It's like an apartment complex where child actors live when you move to LA and you don't know anything. Wu-Tang Clan was like our neighbors. They lived in the building.

Anyway, I started my sort of rapping I would rap at these parties There would be These parties And everyone would be drunk Or smoking Or whatever they were doing

And then eventually People would break out Into like A rap Cipher Would Would Would happen

And it's time for another confession Toronto Mike I'm ready I would just Steal the lyrics from this song and I would rap these lyrics to some of the lyrics from this song and I just figured like, oh, we're in LA, no one's going to know this.

And I would be like, one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock, rock to the beat that I drop when I flip my hip hop. And no one ever called me on it. It's smart because you're right. It's a very can-con thing. Like, how are they going to know that? They would never know.

No. So very smart, actually, but also very unethical of you. Unethical. And before I forget, the 90s, late 90s anyways, and early 2000s, a rock goddess from Canada who I always liked was Holly McNarland. Do you remember Holly McNarland? I saw Holly McNarland perform live. Why wasn't she a bigger deal?

What a great set of pipes you had. But there were some great Canadian female rockers. Getting back to this song for one second. This was a good song because it was like Maestro's back. And he's had several of those moments in his career where, you know,

Let Your Backbone Slide was such a massive hit. And, of course, this way holding, shouting at all the boroughs of Flemington Park. Sorry about that. That's okay. Farley Flex, by the way, is coming on Toronto Mike. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, so symphony effect. Yeah, symphony effect. Maestro was teaching Sorry about that That's okay Farley Flex by the way Is coming on Toronto Mike Oh really Yeah

So come and check A real pro Grab the pieces Okay so Symphony effect Yeah Symphony effect So then this came

Years after And this was like Oh Maestro's back That just can't be From Canada And then he did These Eyes Was like

After that It was like A few years later again It was like Oh Maestro's dope again Yeah stick to your vision So he keeps He keeps coming back

And having these like Maestro's dope again. Yeah, stick to your vision. So he keeps coming back and having these Maestro's back moments. Most definitely. And even at the Olympics in 2016, there was new Maestro material set to montages that Tim Thompson put together that were still kicked ass. So the man's still recording some good music. Let Your Backbone Slide is still the greatest. Take all of the success that Drake has ever had. None of it matters to me when it comes to Let Your Backbone Slide.

This is a throw down, a show down. Hell no, I can't slow down. I have the 12-inch single. In fact, I have it somewhere in this pile here. Hold on. Oh, wow. That is sick. And he signed it.

He signed it for me, yeah, his first visit in 2016. And there's Fardly Flex. He's coming on soon. But there's a version which it starts – it doesn't start with this is a throwdown, a showdown. It's – and I can't rap like you, so this is kind of embarrassing. But you listen to every word I say, every verb you heard. No, that's the original. No, um, and I, I can't rap like you, so this is kind of embarrassing, but, uh, you listen to every word I say, every verb you heard.

I know that's, that's the original. No, no, sorry. That's not the part. That's the part everyone knows. It starts,

um, this is a throw down showdown. I don't know why I can't slow down. It's going to go. Uh, yeah, but there's a whole, there's a whole,

I beat, I'll be saying I'm fucking this up and I'm going to bail out now and edit it in post. No, but, uh, I'll be TARS. No, that's the real version.. I'm going to edit it in post now. But I'll be Tarzan. No, that's the real version. There's a whole verse.

I'm going to play Tarzan. Yeah. Delilah, Samson and Delilah. Is that in the real song? No, because there's a whole verse before the version that you heard on CFTR all the time, like that you heard on much music. Anyway, there's a great version I go to, which I'm drawing a blank on right now. So I'm bailing on this.

But there's a fantastic version on the 12-inch that I highly recommend. Did he make a lot of money? No, not a lot. I don't think so. Really? Again, no American hints. And I think he's got a hustle.

I feel like he opened for Public Enemy on an American tour. Maybe I'm wrong. No, he never did. No, he opened for... He never played with Public Enemy? He, in Canada, he opened for, like, Stevie B helped discover him. Remember Stevie B?

Yeah. But he opened for like a big American, oh, you know who it was? Young MC. Okay. So, you know, he opened for Young MC in Canada. That's what he did. There's, no, I don't think so. I think he's got to hustle very hard to, you know, pay the mortgage and all that stuff. I think he's still working, he's working his ass off because I don't think so. I think he's got to hustle very hard to pay the mortgage and all that stuff.

I think he's still working his ass off because I don't think he got rich. That's too bad. Damn right it's too bad. But he's done even Canadian, like he's done some movies, as you know, and he's been in Mr. D, which is like a successful Canadian show. So I don't think he's like, he's not like starving or anything, but I don't think he's any richer than you or I. You know what I mean? I don't think so. I richer than you or I. You know what I mean?

I don't think so. I hope I'm wrong. I mean, you are putting you and I in the same... Well, I don't know. I'm not a rich man. I run my own digital services company. We're all very humble Canadians at the end of the day. And that's part of...

There we go. That's part of what makes this music so... I'll use the word one more time, earnest. It's like there's nothing pretentious about these Canadian songs and these Canadian artists because everybody's doing it for the love. Whether they're working as bricklayers now or whether their merch was stolen

back in 1992 or 93. You're so right, man. And a lot of great bands, and I'm thinking of like Hey Rosetta, for example, like great Canadian bands that are from the, have, forget the 90s, that have come on in the last 10 to 15 years, that

have kind of, okay, we've got to do something else now, because it's just not a lucrative gig to be a Canadian famous musician. Unless, you know, the exceptions are Tragically Hip, and Blue Rodeo. I used to see Tragically Hip in L.A.

And they would be playing at the House of Blues. And you could, like, comfortably move around in there. So I hear. It was all expats, right? And then you come here and they're playing, like, stadiums. Well, they could sell it if they wanted to. They could have sold out, like, the ACC slash whatever it's called now. Scotiabank Arena.

Like, you know, three, four, five nights. Yeah. But Blue Rodeo does quite well, too. Like they can sell out Massey Hall every year, a couple of gigs and they can successfully tour this country. Who are the big Canadian acts that actually made money? Like Bachman, Turner Overdrive? You mean the ones without American hits?

You mean the ones without? Yeah, of course. They have big American hits. Are you talking about the big, the Canadian bands without big American hits that make a lot of money are few and far between. And it's The Hip, it's Blue Rodeo, and then a handful of others. But most of these bands... Sloan?

No, definitely not. Those guys are humble guys too? They're all humble guys. They're all living like you and I, taking TTC to get from A to B. Really? Well, Chris Murphy took the subway here, not for ecological reasons. Maybe he borrowed one of those cars that you rent for an hour or whatever those kind of cars, whatever that service is. But no, I'm telling you, man, Sloan's not rich.

No. Name another band before we close out here. I'll tell you if they're rich or not. So you know the financial. I don't know all of them, but I have. Well, is anybody on this list, this top 10 list? Does anybody make it any money? Let me look it over.

on this list? This top ten list? Does anybody make it any money? Let me look it over. What do I do this for? No. This song is interesting because it's about

he's in love with a 16-year-old neighbor. But when he does it live, he changed the age. He's no longer 16. I think he put it up to 23. Oh, wow. Smart.

So he's aware. What is he doing now? Did we already up to 23. Oh, wow. Smart. So he's aware of that time. What is he doing now? Did we already cover that? Still touring, yeah. He did that Massey Hall gig and he's still making music. You know what we should do? Tell me.

And I'm like including myself in this because I'm volunteering myself to do this. But why don't we do our own Edge Fest kind of thing where we bring these acts back together and do, you know, an Echo Beach kind of thing and have put together a hell of a where we bring these acts back together and do you know

an echo beach kind of thing and have put together a hell of a set and bring all these guys out I bet you it would kill

dude it sounds like a way to lose a lot of money like it's I don't know do you have the money to lose we'll get a grant

okay well I'm with you you got all these sponsors I mean fuck can't we just get Great Lakes Brewery to yeah but much like myself

these are all independent shops here. You need the deep pockets. We would sell tickets to that, trust me. Okay, well, let's do it. We'll talk about... Let's get Cam Gordon on that. Yeah, doesn't he have a hookup at Twitter?

Don't they have money? No. Do they? I don't know. They took the TTC to get here. Dude, shit, that was great. I loved it, man. We could keep going, but you're going to come back.

We're at 2.10 here. We're going to get you back another time, and we'll chat more. But again, people should watch Jack of All Trades tonight. Please do. Do it tonight. I beg you to do it. Congrats on that. That's great.

Thank you. And everything, your life, it's all kind of exciting. I'm very jealous that you were in my Pit Monster. Please. Donnie Darko, and you were wrestling. I mean, there's all this shit going on. You have created a lane for yourself, my friend, that you're able to talk.

You've become a conduit to all of the Canadian everything. I like that. You've brought us all into your basement. And it is a pure reflection of the art and the culture and the pop culture that you celebrate because this is a very humble place too and uh it's great i love what you what you do here and i love uh i love this we're from the same sweet spot believe me believe me my friend dude not enough uh mainstream media is talking about Rusty. So fuck it. We have to do that. We've got it covered.

Yeah. Thanks, buddy. I'm going to get you back. Yes. I might even talk to my friend Cam about getting you on his podcast if you're interested. That would be nice. Fuck. Come on, Cam.

People, if they want to follow up with me in any way, by the way. Yeah. Okay. Well, tell me. I was about to drop your Twitter handle, but tell them how they can. I do have a Twitter at Stewstone. Instagram at Stewstone. But really, I suggest you also check out the Jack of All Trades Instagram page at jackofalltrades.com.

Which is great. It's all baseball cards. It's amazing. It's just such a fun page. It's a fun follow. I follow you there, and I like it because you'll, like little things, like Billy Ripken. Fuckface. Fuckface on the back.

It's just fun and i love those old seeing those old cards and remembering those highly sought cards for players who didn't really amount to much like it's just it's all good so keep that going thank you so much and that brings us to the end of our 456th show seven oh you're right. 457th show. Thanks, Glenn. I need a copy editor. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike.

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