Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Stu Stone: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1592

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

In this 1592nd episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with FOTM Hall of Famer Stu Stone. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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It's the return of Stu Stone. How the hell you doing, buddy? You don't have an applause button? Yeah, I think I do. Hold on. Thank you. It's so cheesy. I feel like I'm in a morning zoo show or something.

But that's okay. But there you go. You asked for it, you get it. You were impressed that I got a couple of things right. Like the camera angle is to your satisfaction. Michael, I'm telling you, you have stepped your game up here. The camera is in a nice spot.

You have some nice ring lighting I even see you're you've got not to like, you know break the fourth wall here or the fifth wall go nuts But you've also got like a lamp that is literally it's he's bouncing the light off the wall on him. That's professional That's how we would do it in the movies Mike and you know a thing or two about me sure You know, there is a it's a much better setup There's a little bit, you know still a little bit left to be desired on the coloring of this shot. Right, right.

But you look good and it's great to be back. I love, I love you and I love coming here into the basement and doing the real talk with you. Well, you're an FOTM Hall of Famers, Stu. It's an exclusive group. On my commute over here today, I was thinking about how during the pandemic, we did a show every single week for like almost two years. 76 weeks in a row, we didn't miss one.

Well, you might've missed one or two and we replaced you with Brother Bill or something, but we went 76 weeks in a row. And it was just like such a, like really to think that that's already coming up on five years ago soon. You remember when I met you at the Cypress Hill concert. Yes.

And you had Samoa Joe with you. And I think we shared that story last time you were on about how I had to Google him and then I was so impressed to meet Samoa Joe. But I told you on my way home on the GO station on my way to Mimico, a guy was sitting there and he looks up, he sees me and he shows me his phone. He's listening to a Toronto Mic'd episode, which is a mind blow. But then he told me Pandemic Fridays, basically he credited us with saving his life.

Wow. He said he lost his job, the pandemic hit, but every week he spent two plus hours with us and he says it saved his life. Honestly, it may have saved our lives because it kept me sane. I really do miss it and I was thinking like, man, it's crazy how you're so involved with something so intensely for such a, you know, every week for that long and then all of a sudden it's done. And then it's like I haven't, I've seen Cam like five times since then. You know, it's like I've seen you like you know maybe seven times since then well I'm gonna see cam

on Friday because we have a date at the art gallery of Ontario to see Mishimi yeah hey there you go you wanna come when is this Friday night like 7 p.m. Friday night 7 p.m. huh yeah it's uh where is that at art gallery oh that's exciting. What's she doing there? She performing. I forget. So I got to ask a Jim Shedden for the details, but she I think she's performing and I think it's like launching a new series there. But yeah, we're going to be there Friday night at 7 p.m.

Wow. Signing autos, taking pics, selfies. I just want to see me. But I was thinking about your life. Are you going to wear? D.J. Lethal is on. Yes, D.J. Lethal is the by the way DJ lethal is on yes, DJ Lethal is the is the legend. He's the man I can't believe he's on the live stream like I'm honored to have DJ lethal on

On my stream one of the greatest to ever do it and I'm not talking about just music and he wants Superbird But as a friend, he's a legendary friend a very good friend to hear Glad to have you here DJ lethal and also you too Jeremy Hopkins and you too Andrew Ward me what up and Why is he gourd is in Antarctica and he's like he's on the live stream Wow, he's with the penguins Just last question. Are you gonna wear pants to the missy me? Stinger is that a short? You know, I got a pair of doers. I'm gonna you know, I'd actually I'm gonna bike there So I'll probably be in my biking pants. So you will be in pants. I'll be in pants Yeah, I'm like us do you know it's cold now now Do you wear it like a winter attire when you go out or you just layer up?

So you do know for a bike ride to the art because I'm going to the Rivoli tonight to see lowest of the low It at 8 p.m So I'll be wearing like I don't have a t-shirt then a base layer and then I'll have like a heavy sweater and then I'll Have my like windbreaker type jacket. You got a lot going on So there'll be like four layers there if you add them all up and then I'll be, I have a good pair of gloves. I have a balaclava. I'll have my biking pants, which are designed for a cold weather.

I'll be set. So I will be warm on this ride today. But I was thinking about your life. Like I only kind of knew you briefly before the pandemic hit when cam Gordon introduced me to you. And I was thinking about your life that you had this 76 weeks where you could be here. Yeah. You know, and then since then I realized, oh, Stu Stone, he spends like, and you're going to, you know, clarify, but you spend like half the year talking to wrestlers for a popular series on vice. And then you spend another chunk of time

making movies with your brother-in-law, Adam, five, seven films. You'll be in Winnipeg, we'll talk about that in a moment, but you have an active, busy professional life that takes you on the road. That's why we couldn't continue. That's true. And I guess when the pandemic was over, opportunities like that presented themselves again.

But you're a very busy man, right? Like give us a glimpse into your life. I mean, I always say we do a segment on FOTM cast. I'm getting anxiety just thinking about this. But you record where, you know, it's called, it's literally called Where in the World is Stu Stone? Yes. And you're, who knows, Oklahoma? Yeah.

Who knows where you are? Yeah, yeah. It's true, man, it's true. I definitely have been working, just finishing up season six of Dark Side of the Ring, which will be coming out, I believe in March of 2025. Crave in Canada. Very popular series. Yeah, but you know that it's like a traveling show and you literally are, you know, lethal would be able to relate to this when he goes on tour.

literally are, you know, Lethal would be able to relate to this when he goes on tour, but you're like in a city, you basically see the hotel room, you see the location and then you go off to the next city. But, uh, I got to travel all across the country of the United States of America, including Hawaii in the last, uh, you know, four years working on this show. Right. And it's been very unique to be able to see America all of it I'm not talking about just the big cities I'm talking about the small cities the highways the throughways the the fast lanes the slow lanes

I have been to Carrabba's restaurants all of garden restaurants Outback steak houses I have been to all of the chains all of the Jimmy John's all of the Jersey Mike's Submarine sandwiches shops that you could be at I've probably had a Starbucks coffee in every state So, you know, but but it's been a real it's been a real experience the experience of a lifetime to do that now My life is not always busy like that It but it has been it actually has been how often do you you get to see your mom and how is your mom doing? She's okay. She's actually in Florida now. Believe it or not, I don't see her as often as I'd like to, even when we are in the same city.

It's a very busy lifestyle, for sure. And I don't even know how I would be able to manage a relationship or anything else like a social life. You know, I get invited to a lot of things. I let a lot of people down. It's sad. That part of it. How, like, for example, we're talking now, what day is this? December 3rd? 4th. 4th, I think. So like, do you have a stretch here where you kind of have your home base in the GTA and you'll stick around for a little bit? Are you going to be on the road again? No, I'm leaving again. Next week. I'm gone again. Oh my God, where are you going?

I'm going to Los Angeles. I'll be there for a while. And what are you doing in Los Angeles? Well, first off, I'm going to unplug for the holidays and just like... Get out of the cold. Get out of the cold and hang... even though it's not that warm there in December anymore, people need to recycle their electronics so we can fix that right but yeah I just unplug and unwind and then obviously connect with business opportunities that are out there you know meeting with various networks and

agents etc trying to like you know pitch our slate for 2025 out to the world we're gonna do a screening of our movie don't fuck with ghosts out in Los Angeles as well So there's there's some stuff to do okay We're gonna get into don't fuck with ghosts because the last time I saw you was at the premiere of don't fuck with ghosts Yes, that was amazing. It was loved. I loved having you there and cam was there too Yeah, so yet so that is that the last time you saw cam. Yes. Okay. I got to keep tabs on these things. So It was great. I mean Gord Martino was there. Gord, he was there. Always when you see the legend, I had a good chat with him, you know, I got lost in his blue eyes again. But there was another gentleman there. I was sitting behind him

and I'm like, I can't believe who I'm sitting behind. Ross Atkins was sitting in front of me. Yeah, Ross was there, great guy, great supporter, and him and his wife came to the screening, they loved it. Everybody seemed to love it. It seemed to be a really fantastic night. It's a crowd pleaser. It was really one of the greatest nights for me. That's what you do, you know, it's like,

people think like, oh, you're doing it because you want to do this. I mean, it would be nice to make money. But the real, you do get money, right? But the real, the real excitement is doing that because it is actually a rare thing. I've, I've, I've maybe said this before. I, you know, there's nothing new I could say to you because we've been on the show so many times. So if I'm repeating myself on like previous anecdotes, you know, stop me if you'd like.

But if somebody is a theatrical performer, a theater actor, right, you know, a thespian of the stage, right, or a stand-up comedian, or a musician like DJ Lethal, and you go and you perform on a stage, you get instant, instantly you get feedback. Usually it's you're praised with love, showered with applause, laughter, people are dancing, people are booing. You're knowing if you're a comedian, you know if you're bombing.

If you're a band, you know if they're not digging the song. Right. Immediate feedback. Immediate, and there's nothing like that. So when you make a movie, now especially in the year 2025, it's very hard to have an experience where you're seeing that on a big screen the way we used to do it. Less and less that's happening.

I understand Moana, too, and movies like that are the exception and Barbie and whatever. But generally speaking, films that I used to go in the 80s and 90s in the early thousands to see in the theater, movies like Swingers or Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction even. Right. in the 80s and 90s and early 1000s to see in the theater movies like swingers or Reservoir dogs or pulp fiction even right you know Those types of films like you if they came out now like you wouldn't even see them in the theater and The people making the movie like Quentin Tarantino likes to make 70. You know these big prints and stuff like that

The experience of getting your movie in a theater is almost non-existent now. It's almost like a lost art of how to watch a movie. So when we get to do it, to make a long story short here, when we get to actually have a screening with a full house of people that are all sort of like excited to watch the movie, and then the movie comes on and it plays the way that it did, which I'm not exaggerating, everything to laugh like everything worked it was just like we were firing on all

cylinders that night and you know that's the best and it's like so being in a room where I only get to do that once I don't get to go and do that every day so I loved it and I loved that you were there and I'm I don't I gotta remember to get emotional about it Mike. Well I like it when you get emotional. It really is an exciting fulfilling feeling because there's so much work goes into these movies Mike. So much frustration, so much arguing, so much argue, you know every fucking thing you can think of goes wrong and to think that like I have to start again and do it again now, it's daunting. It gives me anxiety to even think about it. It's like, what have you done for me lately?

Like, okay, this is done. And now for the record though, because at TMLX 17, which was Saturday, we all got together at Palma's kitchen. How was it? It was excellent. And guess who shows up? Who? David Kynes.

That's him. He's the man. He just, and he goes, Mike, I came from Avenue Road and Bloor or wherever the hell he came from. He's like, he's the man he just and he goes Mike I came from Avenue Road and blew her wherever the hell he came from He's like that's he's the fucking man Because I was thinking you're talking about these movies that go to theaters now and you mentioned like off whatever and I was thinking Oh, yeah, like gladiator 2 right and I will I was at gladiator 2 with some FOTMs like leave a Fumka and Leslie Taylor She made a big announcement at TML like 17 in front of the room to tell us all that the last test she did said she's cancer free.

Shut up. And the crowd went fucking wild. I've got a YouTube clip. I'll send it to you. Holy shit. Yeah. And I was with Elvis, my buddy Elvis is a survivor as well. Wow.

And Elvis and her had been having conversations throughout this ordeal her she fought the cancer and She wanted to thank Elvis and Elvis for the first time in his life Maybe was speechless and raised and there was this real emotional moment Wow a lot of excitement I gotta tell you Mike that is I Don't know. I mean audio people who are listening to this can't see the joy that is in this room right now But holy shit, That is great news I'm so happy to hear that well She's in an exclusive club with you because you guys are both FOTM Hall of Famers

So when we have our get-togethers the FOTM Hall of Fame get-togethers It's you wise blot at the What not Olive Garden where you guys meet again the pickle barrel So why let me think can you name the FOTM Hall of Famers? I can try try Gross he's got one he was at TML X 17. You can see him here goes cam Gordon cam Gordon's in there Leave a Fumka who you just said right Stu stone myself You're missing to wise blot. I did I say yeah wise blot you got one this one will be tough for you. I think let's hear it to inductee actually. Oh, I blew the first member? Yeah. I mean I didn't blow the first member. And we're hoping to record a Christmas crackers later this month actually. I'm gonna help you out again. It is Ed Conroy who is better known as Retro Ontario. Retro Ontario is the

first inductee? First inductee. Wow. And we saw him at that Hollywood Suite breakfast. Sure. Yeah, you couldn't make this one, right? This one, last one. I saw Adam there. Didn't see you there. Okay, so all this is is say can you just tell us quickly here before we go back to being emotional? When can somebody listening when can an FOTM? Watch yeah, don't fuck with ghosts on Hollywood Suite. That's amazing that you brought that up because David Kynes Has given me and my brother-in-law Adam Rodness The opportunity of a lifetime. Okay. I don't know if he's going to regret this decision, Mike, but Adam and myself on

January the third, 2025 save the date, January the third, 2025 Adam and I will be taking over all of the channels. Like Al TV. Al TV. All of the channels of Hollywood suite,TV all of the channels of Hollywood Suite The 70s channel the 80s channel the 90s channel the thousands and beyond channel we will be picking all of the movies that are going to be playing on every channel that night and We're going to be hosting every channel like LTV style. Yeah like bumpers and yeah, give some context yes bumpers galore

3rd January 3rd starting at 9 p.m. With nine p.m. Old premiere television premiere the word broadcast premiere of Don't f with ghosts don't fuck with ghosts will be on Hollywood suite at 9 p.m.. That night followed by spoiler faking a murder followed by spoiler bandits, That's just on that one channel, but We picked my favorites. We picked we picked some great movies some great titles. There's a wrestling movie in there. No spoilers, though But there's some Canadian. There's some can-con in there as well So yeah, you're gonna want to tune into Hollywood Suite on January the third You know set your DVRs for all the channels. We're on all of them.

And- That's amazing. Yeah, it actually is a really cool thing. And Hollywood Suite has been an unbelievable broadcast partner for us. And, you know, we just continue to grow our relationship with them. Now that, like, we went from trying to find a serial killer a few years ago to now we're like hosting the channel and hopefully more to come. Well there's a greater than zero chance that Hollywood Suite becomes a sponsor of Toronto Mike. These discussions are ongoing. That would be

great. David Kynes and I discussed it briefly at TMLX 17 as we also discussed you briefly and I'm very happy for you because Hollywood Suite that's a great partner and David Kynes is a tremendous FOTM. I mean, that much music postcard there came from David Kynes. I mean, the guy has been a trailblazer for many different facets and many different corners of popular culture in this country. And it is an honor and a privilege to work alongside someone like David.

And I'm not just saying that because he gave us the Opportunities he is a cool guy and he was in our movie You know what I mean? Yeah, he's a cool guy. He gets the joke. He's in on the joke sneaky funny, too Oh, you like you don't see it coming and then he hits you and I noticed that on Saturday. He's sneaky funny No, he's the best and his team is the best. I love Quincy. I love all of them He was on the mic when Alan Swag was on the mic and that the right timing it I think they overlap together, but there was quite a moment I'll tell you about later that happened at TML X 17. It was Liz Brio ask do you have any? PTSD when you think of Liz still around huh? Well, she wasn't there. Oh good, but she showed up at a previous TML X

Oh, I know you yeah. Yeah, which it it didn't you know listen you nobody wanted to hear that's what i'm saying like so that made me feel good too to know that like there was some wilkinson literally put on the boxing gloves yeah people were you know didn't want to see that right well it wasn't fair to you at all because you you were busting each other's chops it's because we're buds and we like each other is of the way that Elvis and I bust each other's chops like there was no Venom in your bite. I was with love. I am a venomless snake, but I will say like Jake the snake snake I think they like D. Vanian But I will say to Liz Brio. I'm more of a Cambrio fan, but I will say to, uh, Liz Brio, I'm more of a cam Brio fan, but Liz Brio,

I got no hard feelings against Liz. Liz tried something. Well, she really, her intent was good because she was protecting me. She came from the right place. She doesn't know that you and I, you know, our boys, like we are tuned into a pandemic Friday, heard you going at me and thought that you were some big bully going at her mic. And then I had to explain to her that no, we go at each other with love.

It is love. We beat each other up with love. Okay, so I'm gonna actually hit you with questions, but then we will unravel more along the way and if you wanna get emotional, but I'm always prepared. But I mentioned I was sitting behind Ross Atkin at your movie premiere. And do I say don't fuck with ghosts

or do I say don't eff with ghosts? Well, I mean, on your podcast, you can say whatever you want because it's F but when we're on asterisk We it is don't f with ghosts technically when you look it up It's like don't f and then asterisk it's asterisk K with ghosts to asterisk But you know and then there's some media outlets like when we went on e-talk They couldn't even say the title of the movie on when they can't even say don't f with go no really no so Pussies over there that was that was uh

That was funny, but it was really great the segment. We did was unbelievable You know got us a lot of great coverage, but they couldn't say the title of the movie So we had to sort of like skirt around it don't blank with go yes something like that yes okay so just to wrap up the Roz Atkins thing any insight is Juan Soto on a flight on his way to yyz right now he is yes signed that's done that's a done deal breaking news everybody yeah no I have no idea take it to social media I don't I don't I don't have any insight on that I hope that I'd like to think that Ross knows what he's doing more than any of us do and He's a very intelligent guy. He's a very smart. I never I don't doubt that he's and I think he's an intelligent I think it's a hard

it's a harder job than we think like it's not as easy as just like pushing buttons and pulling levers to like make things happen and Otherwise every team would win but I do think that he is a good guy he's got a great heart and he loves baseball he loves the Blue Jays so what more could you want I mean obviously we want can I answer that question yeah of course we want to win a World Series and all that stuff let's have some playoff victories yeah that would be great too but like Ross isn't on the field swinging the bat but I'm sure he in his mind was putting on the best product to try to do that. I don't think he's trying to lose, Mike.

I think he's trying to win, and I'm hoping that the right person will... Oh, I don't doubt the fact he's trying. And I also don't doubt the fact he's a nice man, and also we have to check your bias at the door that you have a great relationship with him. And I'm not here to trash on him. Yeah. I don't know. Listen, man, it's a hard job.

We need upgrades here, and I want to see some playoff. We won't do a sportscast here. But so does he? You know what I'm saying like he also wants to see some upgrades here in some wins So it's like this isn't the Cleveland Indians from Major League. That's like trying to tank There's no this is not a tanking organization This is somebody that's trying to win and it's not working yet Don't ever let me say and hopefully it will but I like Ross and I'm rooting for him and I'm rooting for the Blue Jays.

We're all rooting for the Blue Jays here. That is a 1986 Shoppers Drug Mart calendar I've got hanging on the wall that was gifted to me. From Ross? No, I've never met Ross. I don't think he was at the movies with me, but I was too shy to chat with the guy. Ken Daniel sent me that from 1986. He kept onto it and it hangs here.

It's forever made because that's George Bell's month here you got the George Bell pictures my favorite Blue Jay of all time okay do you know the name Stephen Stone and stone is ST OH N oh do you know this name at all I think so sounds like a musical kind of icon well he is a bit of a musical guy but he's also big in the Degrassi universe. Married a Degrassi co-creator and had a big role in The Next Generation. Wow. So I'll just submit in the background here.

And this is just to say that I have a Stu Stone today and I am amused, no one else seems interested, but I think it's amusing to have a Stu Stone followed by Steven Stone. Like he's gonna be on the show? He's here tomorrow. Oh, that's so funny. Stone. Like he's here tomorrow. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah.

And he's got some great music. I want fall in your favor. We talked about David Kynes, who ran much music for a period. But before David Kynes was running the show, when he was probably, I don't know, a mic? I don't know, he was probably a cameraman or something when he was working his way up there, working up the ladder at 99 Queen Street East. Christopher Ward was the first VJ. Him and JD Roberts, the first two VJs at Much

Music. This sweet yacht rock is Christopher Ward, but it's co-written by tomorrow's guest, Stephen Stone. Wow. This is beautiful yacht rock. Have you seen the documentary yet? Not yet, I'm saving it. I want to see it too.

That's a beautiful song. And you know what, I actually think I have mutual friends with Stephen Stone. Drake? No. Well, sure, yes. But no. More mutual than that. Okay, well he'll be here tomorrow and I'll ask him if he knows you because it's always fun to do that. Ask him if he knows another Aubrey, okay? Not Drake. Okay, a different Aubrey. Aubrey Winfield, ask him if he knows that name. No relation to Dave Winfield. No relation to Dave Winfield,

but it's a different Aubrey than Drake. But ask him if he knows that maybe write that down. Okay. Cause that's, I think that's our mutual friend. I've heard him talk about Steven stone quite a few times. Okay. Yeah. He's a going to be an interesting guest. I think he's got a shout out to Steven stone.

Yes. Steven stone and a spell differently. Stu and Steve, the stones. Did you hear, and I know you're too busy. You're on the road. You don't have a lot of time for Toronto mic, but did you hear the Clive a Smith episode in Toronto mic? And did I ask you this too busy you're on the road you don't have a lot of time for Toronto Mike But did you hear the Clive a Smith episode in Toronto Mike and did I ask you this last time you were on? Uh-uh, okay Clive a Smith drop by of course. I know who that is So that's a gentleman who idea like how many rolls approximately don't give me an exact number

But like how many rolls do you get thanks to Nelvana production? Yeah, so Clive Smith the iconic Nelvana You know, he's the guy Yeah, so Clive Smith, the iconic, uh, Nelvana... You know, he's the guy. Uh... Well, I'm trying to think. Well, there's three guys, but yeah, he's definitely the animation... He was a co-founder. He was the one that was like the Walt Disney of Nelvana.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh... Okay, well, let's think about this. My pet monster was the first one. That was Nelvana. Care Bears. That's no Vanna big time. Babar Babar is no Vanna Magic School Bus might have been no Vanna. I don't think that was but I'm going to come back to Magic School Bus in a moment.

Dog City was that no Vanna. Should I look up no Vanna. Let's look it up. Care Bears was like that saved them because they lost a lot of money with a movie called rock and rule Yeah, and it was like a bear bears the movies like made the setup shop for the entire Canadian 100% Save them save their ass and set it all up like now Vanna was made by the Care Bears success there So and I know you did bad bar which haunted me as a kid the bad bar cartoon by the way I did it haunt you because I

Saw I can book, not in the cartoon, I saw an elephant eat a poisonous mushroom. And then the elephant died. And I don't know if it's Babbar's dad, who might've been the king, was it the mom? She was rude anyway. Okay, but I was so, I mean, to this day, if I get like a pizza and there's mushrooms on it,

like I'll eat it if it's the only thing there, but it's like, I don't order mushrooms on my pizza Like I'm afraid of mushrooms because it killed Babar's parent Like I really have a whole mushroom thing because of this damn book I read where the mushroom killed the fucking elephant. So that's why you've stayed away from yeah. Well, I'm I've been staying away from Doctor Who Because it's scared that opening scared the hell out of me when I came out of polka dot door What did you learn there about nil vanna?

I learned a lot about nil vanna So here's the video cartoons that I have done with them if you'd like to remember if you'd like to know Yeah, did you know by the way they did the droids and Ewoks? Yeah, yeah, we played the theme song when so yeah My pet monster was the first one. Okay, we've got that one then we've got Clifford the big red dog, right? We've got Babar the movie and babar the TV series We've got Tintin the adventures of Tintin. Oh, no Vanna did that. We've got little bear That was big with my 23 year old. We've got the magic school bus

Yes, we've got Rupert bear Wow. We've got dog City Wow That's a lot. Those are the ones that I did with no Vanna that I can see on Wikipedia Cadillacs and dinosaurs. There's another one I Don't know. That's a lot though. No, that's a lot of work you got from Nelvana. So the Clive A. Smith episode, I was just thinking about you because of how many credits you have. I once went on a school trip. I was telling this story recently, but I once went on a school field trip. This must have been in 88, 89. And Nelvana, they were on Atlantic

over in the Liberty Village kind of area. We've got the school trip in the bus went and like my class got to go through the you know And see how they're drawing cuz like they actually were doing animation in house at that point right not like it is today But the you know back in the old days they actually drew the cartoons So we went in there where they got to go through and then they had like you know the Foley You know everything was going on like amazing Like it was pretty awesome. But I do remember towards the end of the tour There was like the garbage and recycling bin kind of area and it was all Cells from the cartoons that were just in the garbage. Oh my god

And so everybody from the class like got grab some sell grab stuff Could you imagine it was like Care Bears and my pet monster and about all these crazy cells go to a comic con and sell that. They were throwing them in the garbage. Wow. They didn't see this. Yeah. This future where these cells had value. I don't know whatever happened to the other classmates and their cells.

I still have mine. But also show is yourselves from. Well, I have cells because they actually gave us cells. I didn't have to go garbage picking for my. But the cells that I do have cells for like My Pet Monster and Babar, all the, all the Nelvana ones I have. So I actually have nothing but fond memories of those days working on all those cartoons.

It was a really an amazing time. It really was amazing time for the city. Nelvana was such a success story. Of course, Chorus ended up buying Nelvana. The Nelvana people got lots of money out of that deal and now it just seems like a sad time. I have friends who are in animation who are laid off right now. It just seems like a down period for animators. I think it's a down period across the board for everybody in every facet of the entertainment industry. It's really difficult these days. Um, but yeah, back in my day, uh, but those glorious days of the eighties and

nineties, especially in Toronto or Toronto, uh, the business was absolutely thriving on another level. I mean, obviously there's still huge productions that are going on here, but I'm talking about, you know, maybe in the nineties, maybe from like 87 to 93, we'll say that six year run, seven year run, there was probably only like five or six people that I would see at every single session. There was like, that's it. There was like five or six people that had it on lockdown as far as like, who's doing the voices for what right you'd see the same people every time and now you know it's impossible there everyone has a microphone at home there's 5,000 people auditioning for every role back then I just got a call come you're on magic school bus it

wasn't like we need Stu still it wasn't like come and try out for magic school bus it was like okay you're booked show up here the show is called Magic School Bus. Okay you're booked the show is called The Busy World of Richard Scarry. Show up it's Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Like it was just a show up kind of world back then. Do you think now they're competing with like TV and movie stars right? Oh yeah you can't. It's not like yeah. It's a different world and like I've been actually Adam and I have been touring Colleges with our film bandits recently And I've got a chance to like meet film school sort of students and take a look at what the programs are at various different

Collegiate institutions and it's very amazing what they've got there. I mean the facilities at these places is It's it would blow your mind Mike what they have there. It mean, the facilities at these places is, it would blow your mind, Mike, what they have there. It's like full broadcast quality studios, audio, everything you could want is in this place. But then I'm looking around at the students and I'm thinking like, hmm, what a, what a tough thing. Like what, you know, I'm trying to be, be encouraging to them, but then I'm thinking like, if someone went to, and this is a PSA for those watching, if somebody who goes to like a trade school, Mike, and they learn how to be an electrician,

they can go be an electrician. If you learn how to be a plumber, you can go and learn and be a plumber. A dentist, a chiropractor, a florist. I mean, you can go learn a trade at a college or a university and you can have a job but when you go to film school and you learn that trade and then you graduate you're fucked what are you gonna do it's like so hard I've been in this business is for a hundred years and I can't understand how to navigate my

way through it sometimes how are they gonna do it I guess there are jobs on sets to like start as a PA and try to work your way up, but even those are limited. So you have all these students that are learning how to make movies and act and whatever. And it's just like the most unstable career that you could possibly. But, but, but Stu, I'm with you, but they do film a lot of like a lot of the Netflix junk and these Christmas movies I see oh, okay So how many okay? So I go to the class and I'm like okay

Raise your hand if you're with who's here to study how to be a director everybody's hand goes up right who here studying Be an actor everybody's hand goes up who's here to be a producer everybody's hands goes up who here's learning how to light Not no hands go right and that was yours learning how to like the best boy or a dolly or what nobody's hands go up so it's like I just don't know what I just don't know what to make of it I feel I feel like they have the advantage they have though is like is the same thing that's eating the industry which is social media the social media is helping these kids of the future have opportunities to showcase their talents like never before I never in my wildest dreams would have been able to make something in my bedroom in 89 on my camcorder With two with two VCRs attached to each other in a tape deck to make the song

I used to make movies like that. I couldn't put it online for hundreds or thousands or millions of people to experience it, right? These guys have an opportunity to do that So there is that going for them, but the whole culture of social media has completely changed The entire popular culture as a whole people don't people watch movies on their phones now people listen to your podcast They're not listening to terrestrial radio anymore They're listen, you know I'm saying it's the world is a different world not that I need to tell you that But it's a different world so fragmentedmented, which kind of speaks to how amazing it is, what you've done with Five Foot Seven Films.

Well, it is pretty remarkable what we've done at Five Seven Films. It's not Five Foot Seven? Well, we are Five Foot Seven. Five Seven Films, people know what I mean. Of course, you've been calling it that since day one, so you're allowed. I think that's what I think.

I do like it though. I'll take a note. No, no that's your pet name for it. Let's call it. Five, seven films. But you know what it does make me, it does humble me, shout out to humble and Fred, but it does humble me that you know I've been able to participate in all these different eras of the industry and I'm pretty young, I would like to think,

at least mentally, but the fact that I was part of the industry is in a major way in the 80s, in the 90s, in the 2000s, and now heading into the 2020 and beyond, and it's just like I feel like I'm still just getting started, you know what I mean? Like when I was acting in movies when I was a kid, Mike, there was no union rules. There was no work two hours hours take a break teacher give him a snack give them a nap

None of that coddling that goes on today. We fucking everyone's we were smoking cigarettes To keep your weight down on Wizard of Oz. Yeah, like like we were working, you know 20 hour days You know if you don't know your lines like that's a big problem Quaaludes so to see you know to be a part of the evolution of the industry, especially here in Toronto It's pretty mind-blowing to me to see where it's at right now It's uh, and it makes me think like I am becoming the guy that's like Back in my day like I feel like I'm doing that more often because I really do feel like we really did have those glory Days in Toronto in the 80s and 90s that I don't know if we'll ever see it again Wow

Fellow Hall of Famer Mark Weisblot is on the live stream live dot Toronto Mike calm Do you have an opinion on the Rizler? I love the Rizler because he's a Wrestling adjacent a new child star sensation. So educate us because I actually don't know what I just read. Okay, well. Who's the Rizzler? Mike, you're such a disappointment to hear. I can't be alone.

Help me out, Jeremy. Alright, so there's these... Help me out, Canada Kev. Do you know the Costco guys? No, I know of Costco though. There's one down the street from Great Lakes Brewery. There's these guys, the Costco guys, and I can't believe that I'm having to explain this to you. Well, I'm not on TikTok. Is this TikTok?

I'm not on TikTok either, but I do know this because I have my ears of the streets. I'm on Reddit. So here's the deal. AJ and Big Justice. AJ is the guy that says double chunk chocolate cookies. And his son, Big Justice, he says chicken bake. And they go to Costco and they do like reviews of the different chicken bakes and the cookies at Costco etc etc they've sort of became a viral sensation these two now they saw a video of this

kid the Rizzler who's this little kid that was dressed up he might have been six or seven years old and he's dressed up as the Black Panther the superhero and his dad put the video online and the kids in a costume and he's like I'm the black panther and he's Like oh, yeah, are you you know I'm paraphrasing here. Are you brave and the kids like yeah? He's like okay go up in the attic and the kids like no It's too scary and like that video went viral and so AJ the dad Contacted the Rizler and invited him to do videos with them and the Rizler does this thing the Riz face where he's like Your kids will know

And he's just like got this one kind of note gimmick like that's his catchphrase Yeah Anyway, the guy AJ is a former professional wrestler from the Independence circuit in the early knots Okay, and now he's back in wrestling and he's got the Rizzler and his son Big Justice and there you're caught up. Okay. You know what I missed all of that. Now I I gotta find out which which set of kids would be familiar with this the 22 and the 20 year old set or the 10 and 8 year old set? Or is this in the middle? I guess it's somewhere in the middle because like high school kids know it for sure. Maybe that's how I missed it like these kids are too old for that. These are

young kids but like young eight-year-old shit are probably not on Instagram so that unless they have social media then they would just think then they would know it like my nieces I had to teach them about the the Rizler because like they're not on Instagram they're eight right so but like my 17 year old nephew no like he sends me videos of the Rizler and other social media stuff like that like they're on social media all day long Mark Weisblat says Rizler looks like James Gandolfini he does he's like a little James a brand on there okay totally he's an adorable an adorable

young Tony Soprano looking guy and he does this like face and like that's kind of I'm gonna look this up later now I mentioned I'm not on tick-tock it sounds like you're not on tick-tock but I am very active and enjoying blue sky so two questions one over on blue sky Ruth Kapilis says hi hello Ruth that's like two stones coming over an old high school she went with Kim and myself or only yeah I did a live recording from Christie Pitts during a Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game and you know I have the open mic anyone can come on. And Ruth came.

Ruth came on and we had a little chat there and we talked about how she knew you and Kim. Yes. Well I'm glad to see that she was at Kim's wedding. Was she? Yeah. That's great. There you go. Okay.

Shout out to MF if she's listening at home. So are you Stu Stone going to eventually come to blue sky? I can this is the question that's that an invitation Yeah, okay, because I'm actually the people I follow I don't I log in to like copy and paste a promotional thing or to see if anybody mentioned me and needs it like needs to Know something. What does that all entail? Like what do I have to do there? It's basically Twitter without the Nazis. Oh really? If you have any interest in Twitter, the old Twitter before it was X, but the old pre-Elon Twitter before the Nazis took over, if you have any interest in that, the spirit of that, that's what I feel on Blue Sky. I'm enjoying Blue Sky and I would love to have you there. You're talking about like it's not a physical building. No sorry, yes it's a social media app.

I thought she was inviting me to her office for like a, you know. No, it's online. Okay. You can probably do it on the computer now. Here's a name I wanna ask you about. Sorry to move on so quickly, but I remember that we don't have unlimited time.

So, do you know the name Dan Hennessey? Of course. Now, I was sad to learn. Dan Hennessey passed away. Could you speak to who Dan was? I would love to. Dan Hennessey passed away. Could you speak to who Dan was? I would love to Dan Hennessey is staple of my childhood a staple of the animation world that we just talked about you brought up No, Vanna Dan Hennessey's one of the one of the brick layers that helped build no Vanna on a talent level

This guy was brave heart lion in the Care Bears. He was a Beetlejuice in the Beetlejuice cartoons who is fantastic. I love that guy. He was beast or in my pet monster He was I want to say he was like the bad guy in Babar also Maybe in the raccoons as well this guy real sneer. I don't think he was zero sneer, but he was definitely If there's a show he was on it Yeah, big deal in the business like them one is like the, one of like the Mel Blanks of Canada type guys. He did all these voices and then he ended up becoming an incredible voice director and uh, he cast me in the show X-Men, the X-Men cartoon that he was the director of that show,

uh, which everybody, a lot of people say that's the best cartoon ever made, is the X-Men cartoon. Wow. Uh, from the 90s. He's the director of that show. Wow. And he probably voiced like 20 of the fucking characters on there. He was a great guy.

He was very funny. Obviously as I got older, I lost touch with him, you know, when I stopped being a kid actor in cartoons. But during those days when I was a kid he was the best. Honestly he was the best. So funny. He it was so it was such a privilege to grow up with a guy like that who was so talented and I felt like he made me better. He made me feel like I was the real thing you know. I'm in there doing like you know Chuckie on My Pet Monster. I'm like

ten years old and this guy's doing the Beast Over voice, which I don't know if you know it, but you can probably imagine. I don't know it, but I do want to share that I remember watching the Beetlejuice cartoon and thinking it was very funny and the voice of, you know know Michael Keaton is now Michael Douglas do you know this have you heard this yet so Michael Keaton who was the bad Beetlejuice in the movies he had to become he had to become a Michael Keaton yeah well you can Google that well I share that Michael Keaton was Michael Keaton because he couldn't be Michael Douglas his birth name because there is a Michael

Douglas and you know the rules right right so I didn't know that actually he he doesn't Einstein Yeah, like more like Albert Brooks right Albert Brooks couldn't be Albert Oh, he could have been probably because he wasn't an actor, but he didn't want to be Albert Einstein There'd be too much confusion there so Michael like Michael J Fox he had to throw a J in there because there was a Michael Fox actor so wasn't the voice of Beetlejuice Okay, well, I'm giving him credit for something. He didn't do voice of Beetlejuice. Okay, well I'm giving him credit for something he didn't do. No, no, he was in the cartoon like all over the place. He wasn't the voice of Beetlejuice.

Okay, okay, okay. Well, Beetlejuice was very funny. It sounds like this is a great loss, Dan Hennessey. I know I'm boring everybody with my Michael Keaton story, but I found it interesting that he has come out recently to say he'd like to be addressed as his real name, Michael Douglas. Are you serious? Yeah, this is real. Since when? Since Beetlejuice,

the new one kind of came out and he was doing promo for that, I think is when I heard him say that. Okay, so there's another, this is the Ridley Funeral Home segment because we were remembering Dan Hennessey, great voice actor who passed away, but I just learned today on the Not So Secret FOTM group chat on whatsapp I learned that this gentleman Bruce Degan it could be D gen but I can tell you how it's spelled it is spelled D E G E N so I'm gonna go with Bruce Degan okay Bruce Degan was the illustrator behind the magic school bus book series. Oh wow. So the illustrations in Magic School Bus books, he passed away, I just read that this morning.

So Magic School Bus, very successful cartoon. Remind the listenership, there are a million Stu Stone episodes. Somebody said, hey, they heard you in Humble and Fred, and they went to me on Blue Sky and said, which episode of Toronto Mike do I go to to get the like the origin story of Stu Stone? And I sent them to the first visit when Cam Gordon said,

you need to sit down with my old high school buddy, Stu Stone. I'm like, I would love to sit down with Stu Stone. That was the day Hepsey is on sports was being recorded and you and Hepsey, do you remember that moment? Sure, we crossed streams. What a moment.

So just remind the listenership, who were you in Magic School Bus, which version of Magic School Bus? Give us a little taste of that. Before we do that, I'm just looking at Dan Hennessey's... Now that you gave him all the credit for all the shows he didn't do, what did he do? He did those shows, he just didn't do the Voice of Beelzeus, I remembered that wrong. But yeah, Braveheart, Lion in the Care Bears, Beastor in My Pet Monster, he was on the elf tales show which I was also on with him garbage pill kids the Care Bears Robocop

Alf the series I already said police Academy the animated series cops remember cops the animated TV series Yes. Yes, I can see the logo. Yeah, Beetlejuice Super Mario Mario Brothers cartoon, the raccoons, Bill and Ted's adventure, Little Shop of Horrors. Wait, there was a cartoon for Little Shop of Horrors? I did not know that. And Crash Test Dummies, Dog City, X-Men, Monster Force, et cetera, et cetera. This guy's got an incredible resume. He will be missed. Absolutely. And so will Bruce Deegan. He died November 7th, actually. But I just read the news this morning,

but he died in Connecticut from cancer, sadly. He was 79 years old, the author and artist. When Joe Biden was campaigning to be the president of the United States in 2016, didn't he say- No, no, wait, no, no, no, he didn't- 2020, my bad, 2020. That's like my Dan Hennessey memory. He said that he was gonna cure cancer.

What happened? It's a work in progress. I guess so. Well, we got the good news at TMLX 17. Yes. That's our favorite. Thank goodness. I was Ralphie on the Magic School Bus.

That's big. Yes. For a certain generation of people, they must get so excited when they can meet Ralphie from the magic school. You would think now I just, now recently I just did some standup comedy for the first time in many years. In Toronto? Yes. Really? You didn't tell me. I just was trying.

And I would have shown up. I just wanted to see how it would go. Throw tomatoes. That you okay. Where, where was it? Is that Yajax? At the comedy bar. Okay. And it went pretty well, but some of the references that I was making went over the head of the audience because the audience is really young at these places. Welcome to my world. Yeah, so it's like I felt like holy shit.

That was the first time I kind of felt it, where I was making these references that should kill. And they were like, well, what is that? At TMLX17, we were making a joke that should kill and they were like well what is that? At TMLX17 I, we were making a joke that I needed therapy and I said where's Dr. Joyce Brothers when I need her and I realized okay that room it was gonna work okay that was like a Gen X room or whatever but like that that reference isn't gonna work with my 20 year old daughter's crap. No, it's not something I'm saying like Magic School Bus is starting to maybe even age out.

Wow. Like people who are like 23 like don't know it. Wow. daughter's now it's not something I'm saying like Magic school bus is starting to maybe even age out like People who are like 23 like don't know it Wow people who are like people who are like 30 probably don't know it Maybe they do. I don't know but Ralphie for those who want I will say this there is a certain type of person I think this would include you. Yes, could me include cam Gordon It definitely includes Mark Weisbott. It includes Edward Conroy There are some of us who like I just did a real quick shout out to Gary Taup who put out a new book and I moderated this panel at the concert hall on Sunday. So I'm moderating the panel, a lot of great FOTMs in the building. It's called the Red Room, it's part of the concert hall at the Masonic Temple.

Oh, they reopened that? Yep. Amazing. So I'm doing this. You have to understand, I couldn't have been at any of these gigs because I was like four years old. Like this is all stuff I missed because of my age. And I'm passionate about like, oh, bringing the police to the horseshoe tavern in the late seventies.

And the last Pogo, which was directed by Colin Brunton and he was there and this is the thing. So all this stuff I'm passionate about, very interested in it before my time. But you don't know the Rizzler. I don't know the Rizzler, but I know the last Pogo. And I guess this is all to say that there are still curious cats out there who wanna know about shit that happened

before their time. I agree with you. And here's another thing. I was playing this like sort of, there's a couple of guys that are younger that work on our crew, we'll just say. We'll say that they're like 23 24. Yep, and I play this game with them Yeah, where I'm with like a friend like we'll say I'm with you and I'm like, okay Yeah, are they gonna know who Zack Morris is? Oh, I like this game and you're like, of course they are and then I'm like

Who's Zack Morris and they're like, I know I never heard that name. Okay. Yeah, I'm like, are they gonna know? Can they name one character from Beverly Hills 90210 and you'll be like, of course they can know Can you name one Nirvana song? No, I'm not surprised. I'm not kidding you Mike It's kind of fucking crazy and I'm gonna say it like this. Yeah, because back when we were kids We knew who the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were we watched the monkeys for fuck's sake we want a lithic gilligan's island when mash came on we knew it's time to fucking change the channel I dream a genie that's what I'm saying we knew stuff like back when we didn't have every single answer at our fingertips how is it that this generation and I

hope you clip this out and post just this Mike How is it that this generation has all of the answers at their fingertips all of the information? Right when they want it on demand as soon as they want the answers and they don't know anything How? How we had to go to the library? Michael fucking look up who you get charged late fees for books we didn't even read And we still knew every fucking thing that I mean, and if we didn't know we learned about it, right? They don't know anything

It's crazy Mike. We used to know everybody's phone number. We knew how to get places now Even me to come to your house. I've been to your house 200 times I still put in the GPS true I don't know anybody's phone number right if you if I got stranded on a fucking side of the road with no fucking phone anymore I wouldn't be able to call anybody to help me I don't know anybody's phone number technology has really fucked things up. Because you don't need to know anything. You don't need to know anything.

It's at your fingertips. You don't need to know anything. You can say get off my lawn all you want, but you know I'm right. You know I'm right. They don't know anything. And they think they know everything. So that's probably how we were too

when we were teenagers or whatever We thought we knew everything now point counterpoint my turn. Okay, okay There always has been a set of people who didn't give a fuck about anything that wasn't in their Universe or before their time they always existed Okay Cuz you're talking as Stu Stone curious cat Passionate about shit that happened before his time and you're talking to a guy also who wants to talk to Gary Topp about shit he did at the New Yorker way before his time, okay?

But the subset has always existed, just like there's always been a subset of people who were very interested in learning about the scene from the 1970s Toronto or learning about, I don't know, when Bob Dylan went electric and you got the band from Ronnie Hawkins and all that like that group has always existed and they still exist those people that you're talking to the 23 years who don't know who Zack Morris is they're not falling in that and I'm only saying this from experience because I walk 7k every Friday with my first born who's turning 23 years old in January okay yeah time does fly and we do this walk and this walk is like a pop, I should record it. It would be a great episode. A pop culture smorgasbord. And he starts telling

me about these deep tracks from Billy Joel and he starts going in about this shit, you know, and I'm thinking, Oh my God, I am proud. Well, I'm proud of him. And I realized, Oh, he is of that type where he dives into this stuff before he's passionate about it. But he exists today, but you'll find a friend of his will be like, who's Nirvana? Who's Billy Joel? Who's Billy Joel? Yeah.

So it's the same as it ever was. It's just, it depends which, uh, the talk, Gary's brought the talking heads to, uh, the Rock, the New Yorker Is that true yeah Rob Bruce who was the keyboardist for spoons sure he just created a new closing theme for Toronto Mike Which I'm gonna play in like a half an hour or so He's on the live stream. Can you confirm for us? He's on the live stream. Can you confirm for us?

Burlington Rob did the Gary's bring the talking heads to the New Yorker or was that later at the edge or Larry's hideaway or something? Well, he's waiting for that answer. I want to give you a little anecdote that happened on my way over here Okay, good cuz I got more question out to Ridley funeral home on this. Okay, so I'm sitting in traffic Romantic traffic. Yeah. Shout out to Rob there. Yeah Great song by the way, by the way. Corroda. By the way, do you know that there's a spoon song that was the theme for WWF

wrestling? You clearly don't listen to Toronto Mike because that question was submitted. By me? During a toast by you. Yeah. And Bob Lillett and Rob Pruss and we

dove into that in yes. I want to hear his answer. So can you I got to find that clip. Find that clip. But also, Rob, while you're telling us of the Gary's brought talking heads where they brought them to I know they did just remind us about that story so I can read it to school okay so meanwhile I'm in traffic romantic traffic on my way do do do do do do and you know when you you know when you can

like hear music coming out of someone else's car, like their windows are up, but their music is so loud that you can like... You know, it's like they're playing the music so loud and we all probably are guilty of this at some times. That's a great song. Keep it in the background, Jordan. So I was driving and we're sort of stopped in traffic. And I hear Rod Stewart, Do You Think I'm Sexy? Playing extremely loud. And it's like, I didn't know,

like I'm one of these people that, like from a certain era in music from like, you know, mostly the eighties, I would say, I can hear one beat of the song and know what the song is. You know, it's like, I can play Name That Tune and like blow your mind with like, if it's a top 20 hit from the 80s, like I know it from the needle drop. Yes. And so I could tell I was like, is that is that Rod Stewart?

And as I get closer, I'm like, where's that coming from? And I look to my right and I see this guy like jamming in his Cadillac and he's jamming out and it's Rod Stewart. he's jamming out. And it's Rod Stewart. He's jamming out to like, do you think I'm sexy? And as the scene unfolds, I realized that the Cadillac is actually a hearse. And then I realized that like, it's like one of those like processions. That's like there's cars behind it. So like the sign here I'm pointing to, the funeral sign is on the car.

They're going to like a they're going to Cemetery like park yes cemetery so I'm thinking to myself like well wait a minute Do you think that this guy is just like? Rocking out to songs like he doesn't give a shit that there's a windows are up. Yes. It's just so loud It's coming out. Yes. I think he's just that's his job is to drive this Casket to the to the gravesite or whatever and he's listening to his jams or Now hear me out. Okay, let me hear it or This is like, you know

Somebody's like last request is like while you're driving me to my final burial place I want you to play do you think I'm sexy by Rod Stewart the whole way? I like to think that's true Yeah today Rod Stewart the whole way. I like to think that's true. And today, so we're talking it's almost one o'clock p.m. Eastern time at five o'clock p.m. Eastern time, Brad Jones, the funeral director at Ridley Funeral Home is going to be coming down these stairs. He's going to sit right there. Three shows today. He's recording an episode of Life's Undertaking. Oh, great show. And it is a great show. And I will share that story with him and ask him what he thinks Was that a request by the deceased or was that just the guy driving the hearse enjoying his jams?

I will find out what he says either way whoever that was that was on their way to their final resting place They were sent in style because Rod Stewart. Do you think I'm sexy was blaring? Okay. Do you remember the revolting Cox? Like they had a, they had a cover. So I remember cause that's fine. Rod Stewart's version was the big smash, but I do remember what you're talking about. Yeah. Do you think I'm sexy cover by revolting Cox?

I used to hear it like on live to airs from like, I want to say Chris Shepherd would play it or something like that on 102.1 or whatever, live to airs late 80s and stuff like that. Yeah, do you think I'm sexy by the revolting cocks? I think it meant like roosters or whatever. I don't think they're talking about genitune. Usually when somebody has the word cocks in their title, it's meant in an ironically hilarious way.

Absolutely here. I have breaking news. If there's a listener who can't wait until January 3rd to watch, don't fuck with ghosts. So I'm going to ask you in a minute about going to Manitoba. If you don't want to wait for that evening when Adam Rodness and Stu Stone are going to be taking over Hollywood Suite and they're going to do the premiere, you can actually rent it on Apple TV right now. Did you know that, Stu? I didn't.

You can go to Apple TV right now and rent Don't Fuck with Ghosts. You can watch it now. And then on January 3rd on Hollywood Suite, you can watch it again, but you'll have like Stu Stone and Adam Rodness will be like doing like bumpers and stuff like that around it.

Yes. Have you thought of doing like a pop-up video version of Don't Fuck With Ghosts for Hollywood Suite? I would love that. I would like to do a pop-up video of any movie on Hollywood Suite. That's a great idea. Yeah. And I mean, I guess you can't call it that because that's probably owned by Viacom or

something like that. But totally I dig that stuff on the screen just giving me behind the scenes stuff like, oh, this actor was also in this. Fun facts. This guy was a last-minute Replacement because whatever got this gig like all the fun of our this guy Like a director's comment. I doesn't know who Zack Morris is. Yeah, I wouldn't fucking love that so much I would subscribe to Hollywood Suite

again just for that Yeah, as would I and I want to I want to I want to bring up one other thing Mike. Yeah, I Don't know whether it was this year or last year, but you had Cynthia Dale as a guest on your show. A couple times. Well, there was the time. The first time was via Zoom and then she came back and did it in the basement. Okay, well there was one where I came on and we were talking heavenly bodies. Well, just you know, she came on Pandemic Friday as a surprise guest.

I remember. And then you two were reunited. We reunited on that. That's what it was. But either way, I remember talking to her about heavenly bodies and she had this sort of disdain for it. And she was sort of like embarrassed by it or whatever. And I was saying to her, you're crazy. Like people love this movie and you worked your ass off and you look so great and you did so great and people love it. And it's like there's a whole world out there of people that don't think it's terrible and they love it. And like you should lean into it and you should go

and embrace it and celebrate it because it's like, you know, it's the type of movie that like you live long enough to see yourself become the hero or the villain. This movie is a hero now. you should embrace it and she was like nah nah like you know she kind of was like had this negative vibe about it which is understandable like she went through what she went through to shoot it but you know what happened Mike a couple of weeks ago mm-hmm they did a screening of heavenly bodies in Toronto at the Review Cinema, sold out. Cynthia Dale shows up.

She's like loving it. Were you there? I was not there. I heard about it. I should have been there. But apparently it went over like gangbusters. She got emotional and she loved it and she felt great about it. I'm glad to hear this. And so you know what?

We planted that seed. Yes. Mike. And now, you know what? We planted that seed. Yes. Mike. And now... Taking full credit. And now Cynthia and Heavenly Bodies have reunited and they're back together again. I love hearing that story.

I wish you were there. That would have been perfect. I wish I was there too. Next time you're going to be there. Yeah. But you know, I'm glad to hear that story because I follow Cynthia Dale on social media. I think Instagram is her social media of choice. And I saw that she was throwing out or giving away

Stuff she had kept like promotional posters for like legal and yeah, it really felt like for some cathartic reason She was shedding the past. I don't know why she would do that You know, I'm not her and obviously she has she's a very intelligent. You're not Cynthia day I'm not breaking news, but you know as an outsider looking in, you know, she doesn't even know how loved she is. You know, like people love her. People love this woman. And she has so much currency in that, that she has not spent yet, in my opinion. She loves Palma Pasta.

Who doesn't? She's of Italian descent. Cynthia Dale, much like Stu Stone. Italian. Fony baloney name Ralphie Tinelli on Magic School Bus was an Italian gentleman. I'll bet you he loves palma pasta Also, I was in a film called and don't watch this but it's called vendetta not V for vendetta just vendetta Christopher Walken is in the film as well and I played Tony Provenzano also Italian Back when really back when I also Italian. Back when I could do that,

back when you could do that. Nowadays, you gotta be Italian. But back then you had to act like you were Italian. And I did a pretty good job, not in that movie. I was terrible in that movie. But, Poma Pasta, they would have loved it there guy another Thorin Lee graduate is Hayden Christensen. Yes I loved your episode with him I told you that before I did I did listen to that one. You ready for this? Yes. I've never met Hayden Christensen. Oh I thought you were talking about Hayden my Hayden. Oh Hayden Desser. Yeah cuz that's right Thorin Lee yeah. They're both Thorin Lee guys. I got my wrong. The Hayden Desser episode is fucking off the charts. I got my wrong. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Hayden Dessar episode is fucking He'll be back. Yeah, so I'm sorry three. I hate it Christians. You're talking about Anakin Skywalker

Correct, correct. He made a movie that gets referenced a lot because I've had on this show people who are in the movie called Little Italy filmed in Toronto. Mm-hmm, but not looking anything like our little Italy. It's some fictionalized little Italy. Might be the worst movie ever made. Really? Just throwing it out there. So Hayden Christensen who's done some good work and you know fellow Thornley graduate. Shout out to Ruth Kapilus. Yes I think her she probably knew him. Who else do I know from there besides Hayden? Well of course Noah Mintz. Yeah Gion Gomeshi. How's he doing these days? I don't know. No contact. Some others.

Okay, Alan, okay, so I'll move on except to say that I just was connecting these dots from Thorne Lee and that you mentioned Italy. And okay, so I wanna say, Palma pasta's delicious. And thank you, Palma pasta, for hosting us at TMLX17 on Saturday. But there is a question from Alan Gold, who was at TMLX17. In fact But there is a question from Alan Gold who was at TMLX 17.

In fact, he's a part-time referee. He's an accountant by day and a referee by night. Like a ref? Yeah, for hockey. Oh, I thought wrestling. Or maybe, I don't know. Alan, do you do that? So, Hey Ref, we call him, because of Hey Ref.

He has a question for you, Stu Stone. He says, how come a Hall of Famer like Stu Stone never seems to be available for TMLx events? We need more Thornhillers at TMLx. What do you want to say to Alan Gold, also known as Hayref? Hayref, I've been to a lot of TMLx events. The last two just were scheduled when I was, I can't be in two places at the same time I've never not come when I've been available to come to a TML X event if Mike wants to book it around my schedule then I'd be there but he doesn't he's selfish I like to interject say Alan yes Stu was out of town that's why you weren't at that event but you know who was not out of town and still didn't show up to TML

X 17 who cam Gordon he's a prick I But, and you could tell him I said that. But yeah, I'd love to go to an event. I love hanging out with you. Maybe I'll consult with you before I schedule the next one. You should. You should. At Pretty Lakes Brewing. But you know what? I understand his question is out of love

because he just like wants. He just wants to see you. He wants to see me, he wants a hug, he wants to get some FaceTime in, he wants to eat some poma pasta with me, like that time that I was At a tmlx event with Mike Willner and right some pasta right Right love Willner. He was a blue sky by there was another tmlx event where I came where your mother trash-talked me to my mother

Well in my mom's defense she thought your mom was Cam's mom. So the confusion, if she had known she was talking to Stu Stones and by the way, her criticism, which I find funny in hindsight is that you and I before the event planned to pretend you were late. So this was what's a, which one's the work and shoot. This was a work. Yeah, it's a work.

So we decided that we'll pretend like, so Cam and I like literally said, we'll be like pissed off and be like where the fuck is stew We're going live for the finale of Pandemic Friday at Great Lakes Brewery. I can't believe he's late Meanwhile, you were like hugged a hide and you were gonna come out like a wrestler. It's fucking thinking about it It was great idea But because we were so convincing by pretending like a fucking stew how selfish this bastards not here. We got to go at two o'clock He's not here. Whatever. My mom says something to your mom thinking it's cam's mom. She's like so unprofessional What a little prick can you believe he's late because she's again she's thinking oh my son is aggravated and inconvenienced

Yeah, because of this selfish stew stone. So it's kind of like a she's like what a selfish son of a bitch I don't think she's those words but something to that effect and and then later she was quite embarrassed to learn She was talking to your mom who by the way is lovely. I love you. I do too I saw her as well at the movie premiere. She saw you as well. Love seeing her. She loves seeing you She's a big Toronto Mike fan. I'm giving you one more gift and then we're good. I still lots of ground to cover I'm checking the clock. We're good. I think you said you had till 2 right? Well 2 o'clock is when I record with the wonderful people at Esri who I hope are can I get this? This is Monica. This is yeah, please have a speakerphone get

Hello Hi, this is rare. We got Toronto Mike taking a call from his wife live on the show We got Toronto Mike taking a call from his wife live on the show Sounds like there's like some planning going on involving Jarvis He's got a hockey game at like 10 o'clock scheduling conflict Jarvis is like the Stu Stone of the Boone family very busy Stone is here by the way. Can I put you on speakerphone for a second? So don't say anything racist, okay? Hold on here. Not that you've ever said anything racist.

Okay, so what's the time options for Saturday? 9 to 10 or 4 to 5. What is the activities? Viewing his competitive soccer team is going to review tape from their last loss. Really? They think they're fucking professional they're watching tape yeah the coach wants to sit down and watch the video and discuss it with them so babe he's got a one o'clock game at Lampden Arena

and then he's really making it a little arena for people to go and see Jarvis putzke Jarvis is great well he's great No, that's great at a hockey but 315 at Mimico Arena So he can be at a 10 o'clock viewing party as long as well, I mean I you know, I like my Meanwhile 1236 I will address what you're saying in the chat by the way about heavenly bodies So just stay tuned as soon as Mike's done taking personal calls on my time. Give the exact date because you are being Hopefully Liz Brio is listening to this and seeing the disrespect that's happening right now calls on my time. You don't have to give the exact date because you are being recorded. Hopefully Liz Brio is listening to this and seeing the disrespect that's happening right now. Like if I was Gino Vanelli would you have taken this call?

I'm getting my coffee because I have a one o'clock and I need my coffee if you put it. You know. The location is like Runny Mead and Dundas. Oh near where Joe's dad was like a barber there. They're just having like a straight up personal side conversation now. What's the second option? Four to five. So he's got practice till 4 15.

So he's got to do the nine o'clock. He can't make the four o'clock. Does he have to do practice? No. He doesn't have to do anything. He's not going to learn anything anyway. He's got to have preference for nine o'clock. He better win a World Cup.

He promised me four World Cups for Canada. He better win them because there's a lot of... Okay, love you win a World Cup. He promised me four World Cups for Canada. He better win them because there's a lot of okay I love you. Bye You know, I really apologize unprofessional But Alan Cross did that to me early in the Toronto mic'd era and I realized why can't I but I knew that must usually that Means one of the kids is sick like that means I'll go pick up this kid. She's sick or whatever or he said How would you even do that on your bicycle? pick up this kid she's sick or whatever or he said how would you even do that on your bicycle it's not very many blocks away to the school to pick up these kids

like yeah I would walk them home if they were unwelcome is there like a sidecar do you have a sidecar well my eight-year-old bike to school today really yeah we biked in the chip off the old block it wasn't very so okay we got to get back on track what's what mark wise blood asking he's he's he's like you know dropping gems on... Well that's why he's in the Hall of Fame. You know, about heavenly bodies, like as if we need to address... Oh, Little Italy was a telefilm funded effort for something Canadian that could sell in

other markets. It was a recipe for disaster. It was somewhat deliberately terrible. I don't know about that. Heavenly bodies came after the tax shelter era of Canadian movies that gave us meatballs and porkies. Fucking love those movies. City TV, late-grade movies. I got to play the Daily Clip in a minute. So it had American money involved including Playboy Enterprises. Yeah, he's dropping science with defiance. Now there was a Playboy cut of Heavenly Bodies and I'm

sure that's come up maybe when you spoke to Cynthia or maybe one of the top. Did she do a topolus scene? Maybe I don't remember if she did or she had a double or whatever but there's like sex scenes it's like a saw it's more of like a Skinamax kind of thing there's like two. Do you have a copy of this? I probably do somewhere but there was like two scenes that are like racier we'll say. Well here let's do this. The following program contains adult themes, liberty in coarse language, viewer and parental discretion is advised. Exactly. So that is true.

And so imagine young Stu in the 80s on this set where there's, you know, this type of chicanery going on or these discussions. So, I mean, I definitely grew up very fast, Mike, but you they wouldn't let you see nudity, Mike. There was another show. It was a special time. Definitely grew up very fast Mike, but you they wouldn't let you see nudity Mike There was another show. This was a special time

I remember a show that I was on I Can't remember the title but like some I'm sure it's a move that can tell yes And how you're like what four or five years old probably like six or seven Wow, and there was like, you know, that kind of stuff going on. Yeah, times have changed. Wow. That wouldn't happen now, Mike. These were glorious days. That would be scandalous today. I want to give you a gift. This is courtesy of Minaris. It's a wireless speaker. I'm handing it to Stu Stone right now. Oh wow. The most recent guest of Toronto Mic'd before your visit today was yesterday when the cuddly one Al Grego dropped by to kick out jams related to season 7 of Yes We Are Open. This happened yesterday.

Oh here's a question for you, you're a proud Jewish man. That's me setting the table here. Sure. Yes. Okay. Now the question is at TMLX 17, Ty the Christmas guy was there and he gave everybody these holiday themed, Christmas themed toys and everybody loved them. My kids loved them. But he went on the mic and talked about how he also had Hanukkah toys. And then he put it all out on display for everybody to grab it and then he sheepishly had to make an announcement that he had forgot the Hanukkah toys at home. And Peter Gross was

on the microphone and Peter Gross, also a proud Jewish man, said, that's anti-Semitic. Do you think this forgetting the Hanukkah toys, was that a complete accident? Is there any disrespect involved there? No, I don't think there's any disrespect meant there at all. Alright, but he is Ty the Christmas guy who, I'm just joking Ty, of course. He's not like Hank the Hanukkah guy. You know, but he is Ty the Christmas guy who I'm just joking, Ty. He's not like Hank the Hanukkah guy. You know, it's like Ty the Christmas guy. We do call him Ty the Christmas guy. He was the most recent guest on Al Gregos excellent podcast from Meneris called Yes We... And I'm sure he brought Hanukkah toys there. I'm sure Al Gregos buried in Hanukkah toys.

But he did say if you want a Hanukkah toy go to the Retrofestive store in Oakville and just say you were at TMLX 17 and he would give you a Hanukkah toy free of charge I wonder what a Hanukkah toy even is it's gonna be like a baby Yoda with like a dreidel Maybe like does that exist something? I think it's something like that. It's very niche marketing great there, but I like it I'll take it cuz my kid got a baby Yoda with like a Santa hat on. So I think you really think there's a baby Yoda with a dreidel? I'd like to see that. Maybe that's what we need to do. Can somebody send me a picture maybe of the Hanukkah Twigs? Wise Blot is now saying that he figured out there's a show with sex scenes that

was in, Stu was in, called Loving Friends and Perfect Couples. Now that is true. There's another one that I remember that was called Office Girls or something like that. There was another one, there was a bunch of them. They were making these types of movies in Toronto in the 80s. Right. And you know. Well for late great movies. Yeah. They were making these types of movies.

But what's it like when you're that age? Like are you even aware that you're just like, are you aware you're seeing something like, oh, naughty? Like, oh, I see a woman's breasts? Or is it just like you're that age? Like are you even aware that you just think you aware you're seeing something like oh naughty Like oh, I see a woman's breasts. Sorry. Is it just like you're too young to it's kind of like norm. It's like You know, I'm thinking back and I can't even imagine the situations I would have been in like think of the drug use that was probably going on in these sets to like, you know We're talking about the cocaine in a Peter Gross. Yeah So it's like who even knows what the fuck was being said or gone on around me? Who knows what I saw? I have no idea. You've lived a life, but you're a survivor because we hear stories of child stars

and you are absolutely a child star. We hear stories of child stars who like they get hooked on drugs, some of them die young, some of them tragic circumstances. There's some sad stories out there, but you seem to be very well adjusted. You're still making creative content that's being consumed by the masses. Like you are a survivor of the child star syndrome. Is that because you had a great mom? Maybe. Okay. Cause that helps. I mean, listen, maybe I also just put out a great persona that I'm well adjusted and

I survived. That might be it also How's your fitness journey going? It's going very well Mike. Thanks for asking. Did you look good? Thank you, man I mean, I feel like I could lift up your shirt for me. I feel like I could be plateauing maybe as they say in the workout world where it's like This I'm doing the same workout all the time and maybe I need to switch it up but I'm very much same workout all the time and maybe I need to switch it up but I'm very much a creature of habit and I do like doing what I you know once I find something I just kind of like maybe it's 88 or what do you call that uh whatever it is when you're like obsessed with it OCD maybe I'm OCD or something because like uh you know I'm just creature of habit.

I'm exactly the same. But the habit of getting a sweat on is a great habit to have and you can still eat. I mean I haven't changed my diet really. I haven't changed my sleep patterns. I haven't changed my social you know what I'll do socially to unwind But I do have exercise in my routine now pretty regularly there now there's times I am a human being Mike There's times when I'll go and I'll miss a bunch of days Maybe a week right and but then I'll get back at it But I do think that like there is this like sweet spot a 23 minute sweet spot

Where you really start to sweat if you're working out properly doing whatever it is you're doing and like that is a very Gratifying feeling that like you feel like okay. I'm doing something good. You got the endorphins. Yeah being released. I like it a lot dopamine Addictions yeah, that's what we have now. I have a question because you're mid 40s now. Yes addictions. Yeah. That's what we have now. I have a question because you're mid 40s now. Yes. Depending on your source. Depending on your source. You're like the Andy Kim of child actors. Like I made the joke of Andy Kim just like last week and it's like it depends on your source how old Andy Kim is and it depends on your source how old Stu Stone is. But I happen to know on Good Authority you were born in the 70s. Yes. Late 70s. But what happens with a lot of guys your age and my age,

because we're similar vintage is the belly. The we'll call it a shadow to Great Lakes Brewery. We'll call it the beer belly. That's that's where the guys they start growing those kegs, man. Those keggers there. And that's really where the danger is. I was reading a new study about where they're like you. That's really dangerous for your heart for your your

longevity of your life is when you grow that big big belly there's no sign of a belly on you so i definitely ahead of the game i've definitely now you say that and i appreciate that but like i am a human being and when i look in the mirror i see bellies and i see like like when you look in the mirror you probably see someone who's just like a beautiful man because you're just like you know 10 of the 10 no i think oh who is this just like a beautiful man because you're just like, you know, 10 out of 10. No I think, oh who is this old guy I'm looking at? You know what I'm saying? So everybody sees things.

It's like if you have a pimple and you go, you're like, oh my god I have this it. Like nobody sees it. You see it. That's the first thing you see when you look in the mirror. You can go out and have a pimple like nobody really cares. You know? But that's what it is so when you look in the mirror you think it depends on the mirror shed some beef

some mirrors yeah it's really weird Mike it's like there's certain mirrors where like I feel like wow wow I can see like definition here I can see progress and then there's other mirrors where it's like who's that fucking jerk you know so it's like it depends I want to figure out how to get that perfect mirror. You know, I would love to look in that perfect mirror. You say that and I think about man in the mirror. That's what I think about. Great Michael Jackson song.

Yeah. Now has this been played on your show before? Can't remember. It's only your 101st visit or something like that. I wish Tyler was on the live. Can you guys name this song if you're listening live? This is a very popular song and it's a mind blow too. I like what you're doing here, Stu, because you're setting everyone up to feel silly because everybody is screaming the name Thriller right now. I want to hear the story of why this is not thriller by Michael Jackson, but it sounds like

it's thriller by Michael Jackson. But I do have a link to the retro festive Hanukkah toys. And I'm looking, there is absolutely like, I'm going to send you this link. Like there's, what the hell am I looking at here? Oh God, I should get my freaking glasses, but it does look like Donald Duck has a dreidel. Like Donald Duck's got a dreidel. It looks like Stitch from Lilo and Stitch has some Hanukkah gear. It's going to be hot sellers, Mike. There's some hot sellers.

I mean, there's a lot of Hanukkah stuff going on at RetroFestive. It's not just about Christian. I understand why these are very special Hanukkah gifts because if you go to the store and you drop TMLX, you get it for free. So he understands what he's marketing towards. So everyone should do that, whether you rat TMLX 17 or not.

Yeah, you just want free stuff. Right. You know, that's the Hanukkah crowd. Especially if you're in Oakville, go to Retro Festive, say you were there and you want your Hanukkah gift. Yeah. Okay, tell me, do you know the story, Starlight? I mean, this is pretty fucking mind blowing to me. Like in a world where like AI exists and people are making like fake songs

And you're like, is that real? This is real. This is real. So before the song was Thriller It was starlight So Quincy Jones probably produced this this is the song this is star is Starlight! And then it was like, wait a minute guys. Is this a demo? This was the song as it was originally written and recorded. Okay. And obviously, it didn't really attract anybody. Was it released as Starlight? I think it was supposed to be on a soundtrack. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna have to dig in here. Because obviously between it was Off the Wall and then Thriller and neither has Starlight on it. So, okay, so, I'm gonna have to dig in here. Because obviously between it was Off the Wall and then Thriller and neither has Starlight on it. So, okay, so you know the band Heatwave.

Have you heard of the band Heatwave? You should look them up. The Heatwave Festival was a disaster. Can you pull up some Heatwave on YouTube? Yeah, try to find a... Heatwave the band, I want you to see something here, okay? Because it's gonna blow your mind. It's gonna change the way you think about Michael Jackson that's for sure

okay okay okay heatwave band stand okay I have some stuff here how about boogie nights yeah sure play that we're gonna get this right here starlight can you imagine it's like back to the, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight, Starlight,

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You were in diapers. -♪ Boogie Nights... What does that sound like to you? -♪ Boogie Nights... Thriller? -♪ We're making... What does that sound like to you? Thriller? Blame it on the boogie? Off the Wall? Absolutely.

Rod Temperton, who's the gentleman from this band, ends up getting poached by Michael and Quincy to write the Off the Wall album with them. He writes Starlight, that's one of those songs that they collaborate on. And imagine this, as good as Billie Jean is, as good as Human Nature was, which was penned by members of Toto, we've established. Right. As good as, you know, The Girl Is Mine with Paul McCartney, if you like that song. PYT, Beat It. Beat It, yeah.

Specifically though, as good as Billie Jean is, often credited as the greatest pop song ever made. Yep. They still didn't have a title track that they were confident with. The album's not called Michael Jackson, Billy Jean. The album's called Michael Jackson Thriller. Now the song Thriller wasn't even Thriller. So for the idea to, you know, hey, there's something here. Somebody had to have heard Starlight and said like, wait a minute, we can save this.

We can save this. And save it. We can save this. And save it they did. It's like, you know, back then, and we've established this when we were doing, and I'm just riffing here, Mike, I don't have stats in front of me or anything like that, but back then when we were mind blowing, you know, artists like Prince and the Pointer Sisters we talked about, where they gave it several kicks at the can of the same song they refused to give up and Eventually another artist maybe took it in and then the song was a hit, you know, this is an instance where Michael Jackson had a this song starlight that just was not connecting on any level and all of a sudden it's like wait a minute

Why don't we tweak it and make it about, you know, a scary horror kind of vibe thriller. They get Vincent Price, which is amazing. They call it through the album is now called Thriller. The greatest music video ever made is now called Thriller. John Landis, John Landis, director of Animal House is the also the director of American Werewolf in London. Yes. But Animal House, you don't really think about the Animal House guy did thriller right when you watch Hollywood Suite though on January 3rd You will learn this fun fact. It's part of one of my wraparound is exciting to me, but yeah It's just it's a wild story there. So starlight is

Actually the original song that thriller ended up becoming I love it You bring the heat you you bring the heat wave, if you will. I envision a future where Hollywood Suite is a sponsor of Toronto Mike and there'll be an evening where Stu Stone, Cam Gordon and Toronto Mike take over. Wouldn't that be something? Can you imagine? Then another night, let's bring in Bob Willett and Rob Pruse. I see Bob, by the way, is on Indy 88. He's on Indy 88. That's fantastic news. He did 11 days in a row and he's he looked i was with him on monday and that man looks happy because he's back Try to let a little light in, cover your face, cause you gon' want it on your thick skin. Oh, this ain't even worth my day.

No, this ain't even worth my day. How could you ever wanna let me down, baby? It ain't right. I want you to know about this band, Mike. They are a three-piece band called Permilla. Permilla. P-E-R-M-I-L-L-A Permilla. They have an Instagram.

You're listening to the lead singer, Nicole, who also has her own Instagram page. She is a prodigy on guitar, although it's not showcased necessarily on this beautiful track here. She's a beautiful songwriter along with Miles and her brother Joe. It's a three piece from Niagara Falls. They are a three piece startup outfit out of Niagara Falls that I'm now working with. I've been working with them for a while, helping them sort of, you know, develop their sound and their persona and whatever it is that's going on. develop their sound and their persona and whatever it is that's going on.

I would suggest you give them a follow Nicole on and Pramila. They all have accounts on Instagram. Why don't you come in to the Toronto Mike studio with Pramila? That would be amazing. You could be like Colonel Tom Parker. They would kill it here too. But you know, it's maybe something that Bob Willett can sneak on. We've had this chat. He can't.

Zero influence over what he plays. He has a lot of influence over what he says. He could shout out Permilla, and he can talk about different things and not get in trouble. But he has zero influence over what he gets to play. Well, I'm telling you, this band is something special. This woman that's singing here, Nicole, is a prodigy on guitar. And I'm telling you. Ian telling March so you need Bob to introduce you to Ian March who I believe does have influence over what gets well

That I need you to make can you set that up? Yeah, I'm the connector because why you got a call from Gene Simmons or something like that true connect that I'd love to see Some big things happen for these three they're in there early phase of their career But I'm telling you when you see this girl play guitar, it's like seeing like the reincarnation of Stevie Ray Vaughan or something like that. She is magical. Okay. And they're called Permilla.

I'm intrigued. And they have an Instagram. Would they play live in the basement? Maybe at like a TMLX event, but maybe, yeah, they're not really an acoustic kind of act. They're more of a hard rock Led Zeppelin kind of Jimi Hendrix okay not that's not reflective of this song that I played you this is their new single which is a little bit more of a chill track but uh... Permilla okay we are Permilla is their Instagram for the band and yeah you're

gonna want to do some research there follow Nicole on her page as well and tell them Stu sent you now Midtown G, we already asked off the top if you had seen the Yacht Rock dock and you have it on your list. I haven't yet, yeah. Because I will be interested next time I talk to you to find out what you thought. Because I also will see this, I haven't seen it either, but Midtown Gourd just wants to know what you thought of it, but we'll find out Midtown next time. I will tell you though that I've been ahead of the curve on all things that Bill Simmons

is doing. I mean, he did... Wait, but it's Bill Bill Simmons he's not involved in the Yacht Rock Dog is he not I don't think so but I I mean it's an HBO thing I don't know if Bill Simmons was involved he has uh he he's got I mean I think you're telling me I could be wrong I could be wrong you know I've been wrong wrong okay so what's his role there like a producer of some sort? Yes. Okay, I did not know that.

Maybe not. I didn't know he was tied to it. No, it says that it's him. Okay. Bill Simmons. Anyway. You would know. So he does, you know, I was doing Dark Side of the Ring, then he does the Vince McMahon

doc on Netflix. Right. I was doing Yacht Rock celebration episodes of Toronto Mike five years ago. Very popular, by the way. And here he is doing the yacht rock series. So maybe next he'll, uh, we'll see what he ends up doing next. Well, you know how you, you were, uh, I'm ahead of the curve, Mike. You're ahead of the, always you, uh,

the hearse was playing the Rod Stewart full blast. And I can tell you there were many a times when you would be driving to pandemic Friday recordings, which we did every week for 76 weeks, which is mind blowing when I think about it, but we, we did that. We did that, Stu. And I would hear Michael McDonald's voice coming out of your car as you came down the street. So you're ahead of that curve. Now, because there's not a lot of time left, I want to ask you about filming. Don't fuck with ghosts. Yes. Because you went to Winnipeg or Selkirk I want to hear from you But why do you go to Manitoba because you went there last time and just give me a little vibe

And while you tell me about filming don't fuck with ghosts in Manitoba I want to know how Kevin Hart is involved in all this like it have you met Kevin is he how is he helping you? So there's a lot of questions there. So I'll go for a bike ride. I'll be back in 25 minutes. So we did the movie Faking a Murder, which you know. Yes, but that was filmed here. Yes. So that movie, which is also available on Hollywood Suite. And that has Great Lakes beer cans in it. It sure does. You know, that's a crazy thing. Since you've met me, I've made like four movies and Dark Side of the Ring. Right. Joe Louis was at TMLX 17 and he was talking about how he lives on Kirby Road.

Yeah. He get people coming, especially at Halloween time. Okay. And some, some, some, uh, Amazon driver came and took a whiz on his driveway. Wow. And he was quite, he wants to know if he had anything to do with that. I did. Was it you?

I definitely, that was me. I ordered that. I ordered some fresh pee from Amazon and then it was like prime. So it was delivered same that. I did. Was it you? I definitely, that was me. I ordered that. I ordered some fresh pee from Amazon and then it was like prime so it was delivered same day. All right, back to your Don't Fuck with Ghost. Don't Fuck with Ghost gets in the hands of a gentleman by the name of Kevin Healy. Healy.

Who is an industry heavyweight. He has created such shows as Scare Tactics, How We Do It, that Howie Mandel show. I mean he's a hidden camera kind of guy and a prank guy. So he sees the movie and he gets it. And he loves it. And we take a meeting with him and it turns out that he is the head of production for Kevin Hart's studio, Heartbeat. Wow. And he wanted to do a deal with us to do a Faking a Murder television series where Adam and I each week would be solving a new sort of faux crime with an unsuspecting assistant, which that show is by the way still in development. It

sounds like a good idea. Yeah, we've actually modified it to make it more like, and I'll tell you off air because I know, I don't wanna give up the goods on this, but anyway, we were set to do a show like that and then this actors, the strike happens. The writers strike first and then the actors went on strike and basically halted production and halted networks from buying shows. It really like put a damper in everything

And during that we still wanted to make the movie. Don't fuck with ghosts. So we said to them like hey We're gonna do this. Don't fuck with ghost movie. Do you guys want to get involved and they were like, absolutely so Kevin Hart's company what is acted as one of the producers of the film. You know, when we shot the movie, they had notes and feedback and the release of the film is being handled by them in the United States at the moment. So does Hollywood Suite, that's a Canadian thing, distribute distribution and then Kevin Hart's company handles America. Well, Hollywood Suite's a broadcaster. So that's like a distribution channel.

Our distributor originally was the company called Level Film. Okay. So you have so much to learn about this. Yeah. So Hollywood Suite was our broadcaster. Okay. And in order to survive in Canada, you need to get a broadcast license in order to qualify for a tax credit. And tax credits, or you need to have a theatrical, you need a distributor that's going to guarantee your movie's going to play in the theater.

You need to show the government that This thing that you're making is not just for fun It's gonna be commercially available. It's all making sense now so as long as you're making something that's gonna be commercially available, then you can qualify and and be a part of the Subsidiar subsidies that are out there for and that's where Manitoba comes in. That's where Manitoba comes in Manitoba Aggressively is trying to get business there and they're smart but it is not a

365 day place that you can shoot in my opinion And I'm probably wrong because I'm wrong about a lot of things because people do live there but it is so fucking cold that like you wouldn't want to go there from December to March and then it's like mosquito season and like there's a very there's a window where I'll go there three week period where it's good for Stu yes there's a window where I'll go there like unlike TML X like they could you know my schedule does matter on these things like today in Toronto it's kind of a cold day right it's blowing wind and it's below zero. It would be like a warm beautiful day. Gotcha. You know when we were filming Don't Fuck With Ghost just to put it in

context it was in October and it was full-blown winter there. Like seven inches of snow, like whiteout on the way to work, like you know full-blown winter. Right. So yeah they're trying to get business over there and I would say that like they'll probably have a lot more success as more studios show up there, indoor facilities, which I'm sure somebody's already there investing in that, like licking their chops. But can you be specific? Like so let's say you go over there and use round numbers because we're stupid, but let's say you're gonna spend, I'm gonna make up numbers, like you're gonna spend $20,000, I don't know, on something to make this movie.

Well, then you're gonna fail, because that's not enough. I know. So raise your number. 100,000, 100,000. I just need round numbers. Okay, so let's just say $100,000. Okay, $100,000. What kind of tax rebate or what kind of cash comes back? If you spend $100,000 on labor.

Labor, yeah. So people who are in Manitoba or deemed to be local to Manitoba, or what kind of cash comes back? If you spend $100,000 on labor, so people who are in Manitoba or deemed to be local to Manitoba, which is like, you know, as long as you're paying the tax in Manitoba, they will give you 60, at a minimum, 60 cents on the dollar for your spend. So you'll be out of pocket 40K.

40K. Get a map. Yeah, and so now imagine I'm American on top of that and I'm bringing my American dollar here and I'm my so my hundred thousand is now worth 135,000 right alien plus I'm getting attacks. It's like the movies almost free at that point So it really makes physical physical sense fiscal fiscal sense to shoot in Manitoba if you're me I'm an independent filmmaker right now if I'm a major studio you know maybe I'll go to Winnipeg Manitoba but maybe I'm just gonna stick to Toronto where maybe Tom Hanks doesn't want to go to Winnipeg like that's what I'm saying so you don't have you just need Tony Nappo to go to Winnipeg well Tony Nappo

god bless him yes he'll come to Winnipeg every single time. You know the the local sort of celebrity out in Winnipeg is you know the guys from like Kids in the Hall type guys are out there but that's it. You know as far as the talent pool there's local talent out there that I've definitely encountered and I love them and then there's like local crew. Now how many crew could be out there might probably you know Once I'm out there. I'm ending up with like the fourth or fifth down on the list in every position here So for me, I lean into that because I put my crew on camera I'm fucking with my crew when I'm there shooting don't fuck with ghosts like they think we're looking for ghosts

So I'm happy to have you know, this kid Kevin Bacon who's the real Kevin Bacon this you know spoiler I'm happy though to have these guys come and be a part of things they do a good job on the poster They do in Kevin Bay exactly they do a good job. They try they want to be there They're so excited that something that's not a Hallmark movie is they're filming okay, so I've seen this movie now I'm not don't mean to rush you except okay, so we got great tax incentives That's why you're going to Winnipeg. And, or I heard Selkirk. I heard this on Humble. Selkirk, I drove it.

So if you go an extra hour, like even in Toronto, if you drive 150 kilometers from the city, there's an extra bump on the tax credit. It works the same way in Winnipeg. Maybe you go to Antarctica and you film with YYZGord and Tom, who both were at your movie premiere for Don't Fuck with Ghost, by the way. Probably they pay you to make the movie.

Okay, so can you just share with me because I've seen it It's like a mall. I call it a mockumentary. Is that a proper term for a movie like this? No, no Okay, tell me where I'm it's not a mockumentary. I don't think it is a mockumentary I would call this a hybrid movie or a metaphysical comedy is what Adam calls it Okay, but it is a hybrid a true, because a mockumentary, everybody's an actor, right? When you watch- No, good point. When you watch Spinal Tap, everybody's an actor.

Right, right. When you watch a mockumentary, it's just like a style of shooting a scripted movie. So can you share, again, I've seen it, so obviously I mentioned Tony Naples, so you do have some people, and that skinny guy again, I've seen it, so, like, obviously I mentioned Tony Nappo, so you do have some people. It's like, skinny guy with the, who was in Faking a Murder. There are certain people I recognize, oh, that's a paid actor.

Yes. But the overwhelming majority of people that we see in Don't Fuck With Ghosts are not actors. Real people. Real people. Yes. So this is all really real, and then you have a certainot lines that get driven by these actors like Tony Nappo real people that don't realize that they're even with actors these are real people and You know and I've said this before probably to you but like the difference, you know, listen you watch Borat, right?

Yeah, the first Borat movie and it first came out. Everyone was blown away by it myself included It was just like holy shit. You got to see this, right? Right, but when you're watching Borat movie when it first came out everyone was blown away by it myself included it was just like holy shit You got to see this right right? But when you're watching Borat Mike you're watching a guy playing a character and you're in on it because you're like oh He's fucking with these people. This is amazing like they don't realize that that's really Sacha Baron Cohen And he's pretending to be Borat. This is hilarious right and he's going and playing this character in the real world But when you watch our movie, and you don't know who we are which most people let's face it don't know who we are right You don't know that you're watching you this could be real

Because we're not playing a character right and then and the people that we interact with are not really playing characters Yes, Tony Nappo is but like 71 other people are not playing characters So it gives this rest. My movies, our movies are professional wrestling where there is a magic behind it, where it's like, okay, I know this isn't real, but that was real. You know? So let's say you film something with a non-actor who thinks it's real.

Yes. And it's great. And then I'm assuming they have to sign a release of some sort. Of course. Right. So what happens if the person doesn't want to sign their release? Will they blur out the face or you just don't use it? Well you'd blur the face depending on that situation.

But mostly people are signing releases before I even roll camera. I'm not stupid Mike. I mean I've been in the... See I'm learning so much. I'll tell you what. Here's a little inside baseball for you. When I did the movie Jack of all trades. Yeah which was great.

Which is a legit documentary. Right. It's a legit documentary, right? It's like that's an actual documentary Jose can say goes in that yes When I was gonna meet my father for the first time on the movie Jack Eisenstein. Yes Before I went into the room to see him to do that interview to do that encounter whatever you want to call it. Mm-hmm I did not go in that room until he signed a release because I did not want to go there and put myself through all of that and then have him be like fuck that. You can't use this footage. Yeah. Right. So even my own dad. Wow that's smart. You got to get

everybody to sign beforehand so that's like some film you know if someone's gonna be on your show you get them to sign first when I was working for Chris angel Before they even got to Chris to do the magic trick they signed now if we're just doing man on the street type of stuff and I just meet someone randomly on the street which also happens and Don't f with ghosts and they talk to us and they engage with us Then they need to sign something if they won't sign it Then we got a blur their face. Yes Which I'm okay doing too because like these are things that make the experience more real Right for the viewing audience if you see a blurred face, that's what Rodness my partner We do argue a lot about creative, but there's certain things that he's right about and this is one of them

He loves to blur shit and I think it's a pain in the ass, but we spend fucking money man You wouldn't believe it You're blurring people who sign the release blurring license plates blurring people blurring signs that legal is not asking us to do Because it makes the experience more real. No, I totally get that Yeah, so what now that you say that so your equal partners in five. Yep, seven films Yes, you and your brother-in-law Adam who happens to be the same height, correct? Okay? What is the big typically you guys easily get on the same page creatively or is there like an example of where he? Likes to do something you don't like to do or you want to do something

He's not into like is there a glaring Delta between your two philosophies when it comes to creative Definitely it is glaring because I've never philosophies when it comes to creative? Definitely. It is glaring. Because I've never had Adam Rodness on Toronto. You should. I don't know why you're avoiding it. Bring him over when you bring him over. You should have him by himself and let him talk shit.

You know? Let's see what he says. I would do that. I'm curious what he would say. I see him at all these Hollywood Suite events. Yeah. I mean, he's probably got stories. Okay.

But I'll say that like the thing about Adam and I is that like generally speaking we have we share a sense of humor. But I think like our rapport is you know the chemistry as they say you know that took years but we're such you know we know each other so well I know what he's gonna say and he knows what I'm gonna do. But creatively I would say that we we, 50% of it is us just gelling perfectly. And then there's like the 25 and 25 that's where we don't agree at all. And like he thinks something's funny that I don't, or he thinks that it should be a certain plot point that I don't, or a certain song should be here, a certain edit should be that way. And I am completely on the opposite side of him.

Now we have a system where we end up just trying it. And you also, it's like marriage, Mike. You gotta pick your battles. I have to pick my battles because I have notes, as a director or whatever, I have notes not only coming from my partner, but I have notes coming from Kevin Hart's company, Hollywood Suite,

Ira Levy, our executive producer, our investors are watching the cuts. Everybody's got fucking something to say. So I really have to pick my spots. And so maybe one day I'll be able to make a movie where it's like all, everything I want. Can I quickly drop a fun fact about Ira Levy here? Sure.

Okay, so Ira Levy was behind Mary Jo Eustace's show What's for Dinner. Really? Yeah. Didn't know that. Now the funny story here is so, okay, so I'll do this very quickly with nothing but kindness and respect for a wonderful person named Mary Jo Eustace, okay? So Mary Jo Eustace comes into my life, but she wants to do a show with her ex-husband Dean McDermott. Yeah. Okay, your buddy from California. Yeah. He calls you Stu the Jew. Yes, he does. So we did record 11 episodes or so and we called it X's and Uh-Oh's and it was kind of interesting, fascinating really. Until it wasn't. Until it wasn't. Okay. Then we won't go into too many details, but basically Dean

McDermott left the project abruptly and said, you can't please don't drop any more of the episodes that you have in the can. So I have on this hard drive these 11 episodes and I think I got the drop three of them or something like that. And then Mary Jo and I got together and we made it a different show called senior bitches, where it was kind of her talking about it being in her 60s, and the trials and tribulations of a woman in her 60s. And it was something else and we worked hard on this for years, literally years. Actually got it to number one in her category in Apple podcasts.

Long story short is she went on somebody who was in bandits, Jan Arden. Okay. She went on Jan Arden's podcast. Jan Arden's very popular podcast because she's a big singer with number one hits and she's very funny. So Jan Arden, literally, so Mary Jo goes on Jan Arden popular podcast because she's a big singer with number one hits and she's very funny. So Jan Arden

Literally, so so Mary Jo goes on Jan Arden's podcast. They always got along well and loved each other Jan's been on senior bitches Long story short. I got an email out of the blue from Mary Jo used to say like this is the hardest email ever had to write But blah blah blah. I'm leaving you for Jan's podcast email ever had to write but blah blah blah I'm leaving you for Jan's podcast consortium or whatever which is this woman named Sarah Burke and Jan Arden and so I no longer produce senior bitches she has gone to work with Jan Arden and see now had you got them to sign a release beforehand you would be protected but all this because you said Ira Levy and I remember that name being

the producer or founder or I can't remember the exact designation but the man behind What's for Dinner which was the Mary Jo Eustace show. There you go. Ira Levy also is the guy behind the kids show. No more thoughts. Jan Arden, friend or foe? Did you get along with Jan?

I mean when I worked with her she was lovely. She was in Bandit. She was the best. Good. And you used insensitive in the movie. did and she allowed that so I got nothing against her I'm sad that that happened to you But you know maybe you need to get a sponsor who's also like a paralegal or a lawyer so that you can learn honey Come in so you can get paperwork with these people and then no I don't want to be the guy you Legals up as far as I'm concerned Mary Jo who I like personally if she you know we built this thing

It's going gangbusters if she wants to take it to Jan Mary Jo, who I like personally, if she, you know, we built this thing, it's going gangbusters, if she wants to take it to Jan Arden, then I say good luck. You're a victim of the business, you know, you put in the work, like as a someone who works with developing talents, you see that all the time. I got dragged at inpeople.com during that project.

Yeah, I saw that, but you loved that. I don't know if I loved it. But you know, like you work with someone, you get them to a certain point, and then someone sexier comes along, and you did all that hard work, and they're fucking, but you know like you work with someone you get them to a certain point And then someone sexier comes along and you did all that hard work and they're fucking see you later That's an old that's a story is that that's a tale as old as time Mike. Well, you know, welcome to the business kid You know what? I finally made it. I now have one of those stories. Yes. My client was poached by Jan Arden Yes, I'm kind of proud of that. I'll get t-shirts made up

I thought about again on our way out just to go back in time a little bit here. This song is kind of like your Christmas hit. Yes. It this is not on Blowing Up, right? No. What album is this on? This was just like a Christmas single that we released thinking like, hey, the world needs another Christmas song. Blowing Up, which I have Mark Weisblat's promo copy, as you pointed out last time. Yes, it's got the cut in it. He didn't pay for that, but he gifted it to me, and it's on proud display right in front

of the Brian Linehan picture from The Watchmen, who are from Winnipeg. I appreciate that, and I appreciate them. They were playing when I was in Winnipeg. I was gonna go see them, just we were shooting on the same day, but that would have been nice. Possibly sad news in that they had to postpone big events because Danny is

unwell. Oh no. The lead singer I know and I don't have any further detail not that I would share them anyways but we're always thinking of Danny who performed live for us at a TMLX event. I remember I was there for that one so you know. So Alan you're the one who missed out on this. Yeah. So Danny. Where was Alan Gold at the ones I was at? Great question. So that's Alan's fucking one who missed out on this. Danny Graves. Where was Alan Gold at the ones I was at? Great question. So that's Alan's fucking problem. Great fucking question here. One question about blowing up on our way out.

That's the album with Jamie Kennedy. And there was a show, of course. How many episodes of that show were aired on MTV? We did one season of the show, and we did a tour, we did an album, and we did a feature film called Kicking It Old School, and that was the extent of the run But that's still a mate. That's where rolling with sagging. Yeah, yeah

decisive who helped with that one and Circle circle dot dot circle circle dot in the Lego video, which was like number one on YouTube again ahead of our time Yeah, you know you're like the imagine we would have had like a viral hit now Then we would be like you'd be instead of asking who's the Rizzler you'd be like who's Stu You'd be on the view tomorrow talking about that fucking video all of this is amazing I'm still hoping for a circle circle dot dot Renaissance to happen You know cuz like sometimes on tick-tock yeah like kids discover some old stuff I think this song might be too dirty, but maybe the Trump effect will allow like dirty songs to come back. Just let it slide y'all. So yeah, this is a, this is something

I feel like there could be like TikTok dances to someday. So maybe we'll get like a second wind out of this song, but who knows. Do you still, cause it sold a lot of units. What was it? 350,000 copies sold? I'm not going to argue with your math. I read that somewhere. 350,000, which is in this country. I mean, that's an American thing. But still, that's a huge number.

If Jan Arden sells 350,000 copies, she's got a hit record on her hand. For sure. Especially in this country. She probably has. Well, Insensitive was, yeah, she has some big jams. Good Mother and Insensitive and all that. Do you ever see residual checks from your blowing up era?

No. No more money left in that banana stand. Well, I mean, maybe. You know, when Bob Saget was alive, there was like an economy for Roland Wissaget for sure because he would play it all the time. But still, like nothing that would put your kids through you know, college or anything like that. I would say though that the memories

and the life experiences that I had. Invaluable. Yeah, like I'm the richest man alive when it comes to memories and life experience. It's a wonderful life. Yes. Yes. I want to wish you and yours a happy holiday season, Michael.

I like it when you call me Michael. Good luck with the soccer practice. Oh yeah. You know, I mean, but to all the listeners of your show, I want to say that 2024, it was nice to drop in a couple of times. I'd like to do it a lot more in 2025. I want to say that 2024, it was nice to drop in a couple times. I'd like to do it a lot more in 2025. I would love that. Happy New Year. I hope that all of your holiday wishes and dreams come true. I hope that you make some good New Year's resolutions and you stick to it. And I hope that on January the 3rd,

2025, you tune into Hollywood Suite to watch Adam and I take over all the channels and watch Don't f with ghosts I appreciate the love and support. I do see it. I do notice it I suppose I need to figure out how to like really make what's app a part of my Routine so that I could really keep better tabs on what we miss you there. I'll be honest You're in there, but you're not in there when you switched from Twitter to whatsapp you kind of lost me there But maybe I can do a better job of trying to incorporate

that into my routine, checking WhatsApp. But everyone who knows me on this show knows that I obviously have nothing but love and respect for everything you've built and created here, Mike. And shout out to Leiva Famka, I'm so happy to hear she's doing well, and I hope everybody else is doing well. And I'll catch up with you guys sooner than later. And I'm a Hall of Famer, Mike. I'm not in a lot of Hall of Fames but I'm in the

Toronto Mike Hall of Fame. You're an FOTM Hall of Famer nobody can take that away from you so you earned that. Thank you unless I kill my wife one day or something like that. I'd keep you in the Hall of Fame. Thank you. Lots of love to you though Mike happy happy Christmas and happy New Year to you. What do you think of the new closing theme? It's a cover of Rosie and Grave done by Rob Proust. I was going to say. It's really cool.

And there's Easter eggs at the end. So I'm going to do the extra and you and I are going to listen and you can respond to the Easter eggs. I'll keep your mic open. Sure. But thank you for having me. And that. And that brings us to the end of our 1592nd show.

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Really? They're in for another 12 months. They love the partnership. Well, it's working clearly. I mean, we are battling against climate change, one piece of electronic equipment at a time. We are battling against climate change, one piece of electronic equipment at a time. Meneris? Oh, listen closely. The Easter eggs are starting. Name that tune. Uh, the friendly giant. Yep. That's the friendly giant theme. So shout out to Meneris. You got your speaker. Here's another one. Name that tune.

Pizzanova. Alfie Zappacosti. You got it. 43... Yeah. Ridley Funeral Home. We're recording a new episode later today. See you all then. What about this? Wow, that's pretty cool. Rob Proust. Yeah.

He's a co-writer of this song. It's Romantic Traffic. Okay, we get a couple more, I think. This is a great vamp, we call this, in the business. Wow. He's b call this in the business. Wow. He's busting out all the hits. That's a shadowy man and a shadowy planet from the Kizzen Hall. Oh, and he comes back to Rosie and Grey to take us home.

I'm going to see this band tonight at the Rivoli. Great. Please send my love. I will say hi. Thank you, Stu! Thank you. Good night.