Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Tara Slone and Teri Hart: Toronto Mike'd #1156

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

In this 1156th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Tara Slone and Teri Hart about what's new in their lives, why Tara is no longer on Sportsnet, why Teri is no longer on Breakfast Television, Don Cherry, Twitter, John Derringer, Joydrop and more. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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guaranteed. And Sammy Cone Real Estate. Ask Sammy any real estate questions at Sammy.Cone at ProperlyHomes.ca. Joining me today, returning to Toronto Mic'd, are Tara Sloan and Terry Hart. Welcome to both of you. We're here. 1,156. That's crazy. Terry, I'm starting with you.

I'm excited you're both here, but do you remember the number of your first episode of Toronto Mic'd? You know, when you said episode 1,156, I was like, what was my episode? How long has it been? 336. And it was May 2018. I wrote at the time, if people want to go back and hear, because we're going to do like an all killer, no filler hour here with Tara and Terry. But I wrote, Mike chats with broadcaster Terry Hart about her start at CFNY. Boom. Boom. like a all killer no filler hour here with uh tara and terry but uh i wrote mike chats of broadcaster terry hart about her start at cfny boom and q107 boom her 19 years at the movie

network yes this is didn't date well like okay but at the time i wrote her new role at rogers television well i mean it's fine mean, it was new then. Yeah, and it happened. Yeah, it happened. It did not happen. But we got so real in that episode because we did discuss in great detail your struggles with infertility. So that was... Those happened too.

It all happened and we talked about it. That's what we do. And Tara Sloan, any idea what your number was? Not a clue. So I find this interesting. Terry, you were May 2018. Tara, you're April 2018. You got in there like one month before.

Episode 322. Mike chats with Tara Sloan about her years with Joy Drop. Her experience on Rockstar in Excess. Co-hosting Rogers Hometown Hockey with Ron McClain, and more. Always more. That always ages okay. And more.

Rita wrote in when she saw you guys were coming on together. Two of my faves. That's from Rita. Hi, Rita. Lovely Rita. Rita, lovely Rita, meter maid. You're the one who can sing. Terry's the one Hi, Rita. Lovely Rita. Rita, lovely Rita, meter maid. You know. I know.

You're the one who can sing. Terry's the one who says she can't sing. All caps cannot sing. Well, I would like to hear it and be the judge of that. You have such a nice, like, throaty, deep. I feel like you could do some croony stuff. Jazzy stuff? I'm like tone deaf.

I dated a bass player for a few years, and I lied at every single gig because he would say, did I sound did you hear that mistake and i could never hear the bass what do you say i want to know how you two know each other like uh because i actually when i invited you on together i just saw you have some nice interactions on twitter like that's all i saw and i said oh their names are similar and they're i don't know like there were things that I said, Oh, I want to hear them together. But can you guys tell me how you know each other? Well, I wonder if our recollections are the same. So my thought is that we met. So my very first job in television was at Sun TV, and I hosted a show called Inside jam um and obviously you know i

did my first tiff and blah blah blah like and terry was the queen of tiff the red carpet queen and everybody i knew knew terry uh my boss paul schmidt and the man who later became my husband who's now my ex-husband joe um also knew terry you knew him way before you knew me. So I think it was just sort of around that world, right? Yeah, I mean, we would be hard-pressed to not know each other. I mean, I think the industry is quite small. Very small. And so if you dip your toe into any kind of entertainment reporting at all in the past 25 years,

I've probably come across you in some way, shape, or form. And then we ended up working for the same company. We both worked at Rogers. There's many years where you're working for Rogers. Yeah, there's some weird parallels and some very, but also I think that, speaking for myself, I've always had a huge respect for Tara. Oh, I thought you were going to say a huge crush on Tara.

I'll take either. Yes. And because her breadth of experience and just how she leads her life fearlessly, I think is something that we can all look to and appreciate from being in a band to being on a reality show I think is something that we can all look to and appreciate from, you know, being in a band to being on a reality show to, you know,

shifting multi-talented. Yeah. Absolutely. It's really impressive. Well, back at you, sister, mutual,

mutual respect. If only Terry could sing. I just feel like there's possibilities here, but if you could carry a note, okay. So because we only have an hour, I'm going to literally just, I'm not even going to warm you up normally i spend like a half an hour i warm you up then you're putting my hands and i can say what it's just i can't afford to do that today so i'm

going to give the first question to blair who writes in miss sloan i think that's for you tara okay i love i got terry and atara Like that's amazing. Okay. So Tara Sloan, strong and influential advocacy for women, the LGBTQ two S plus indigenous communities, et cetera, potential future entering the political arena, or does the current toxic climate prevent her as well as many other qualified progressive voices from pursuing this avenue of public service? You know, I have thought about it. You know, there are times where I think,

where is this passion for me best suited and where can I best make a difference and what is the natural evolution for me? But I think that, you know, that that nails it. It is so toxic. We see in particular how women are treated in the political arena and how much worse it is for them. You know, I take on a lot of trolls on Twitter, etc. But I don't know if I have the stomach to go deeper. So, you know, I think for me, especially right now, I hope to make an impact in the world, you know, that I'm inhabiting currently, which is the world of hockey and sport and just generally being a loud mouth on social media. I don't know. And who knows? Like Twitter may not exist, you know,

or we may all have to vacate, but where do we go? I want to know where are you guys going? I don't, I'm serious. No, we're yet. No, we're yet. I mean, I have no interest in IP. We're like, Oh, I'm off on mastodon or whatever. I'm like, I know. I have no interest in like going and I just, I'm comfortable where I am on Twitter. And I mean, I'll go wherever Tara and Terry go. Like, can you guys just DM me? I can't DM you. I'll let you know when I email me. But I'm still on Twitter.

But it feels worse than ever. Oh, does it ever? It really does. But why? Is that because, I mean, I think you particularly, Tara, get a lot of vicious attacks on Twitter. I do. And we'll get it.

Some of that will come up because there's some questions about it, but, uh, do you, what is your move? Like when somebody is, uh, like that, do you just block? I mean, I think I've sort of shifted because once upon a time I would just get a few of those. And so I would strategically either, um, tune it out, block them, or, you know, sometimes use people as an example, knowing that I could rally my troops. But recently it's gotten, you know, so bad and I've been flooded with trolls of a particular type. And so, yeah, you just have to go on a blocking spree and mute conversations and, you know, just, just really, because honestly, if you mute those conversations, then it all ceases to exist. That's the crazy thing. So, um, yeah, I think no mercy,

just shop, block. Um, but you know, I'd be lying if I said it didn't affect me. Of course it does. Well, you're a human being. Yeah. And I think I'm a sensitive human being. So as much as, you know, it seems like I sometimes, you know, invite confrontation, which I know that I do in a certain way, but when stuff gets ugly and personal, I don't invite that. I just find it so amazing, you know, from somebody reading some of those comments and seeing what you are subjected to the irony of it all well yeah it's like well this is what i'm talking about you are doing it proving me right yeah you know and and if it wasn't

so vicious and some of them verging on criminal suggestions like threats to your personal safety um it's laughable i mean you know these people are laughable in their ridiculousness and i find it always so interesting because it's not like what you're saying is particularly confrontational or you know controversial you're simply saying your truth you're not out there, you know, baiting. No, and I'm not, I don't think I'm hate-filled. I think you're the opposite of that. Some of what I, yeah, some of what I say is just so in opposition. But there are people ready to pounce.

Like if you put out a tweet and said, oh, the sky looks so blue today, you're going to get a number of people like calling you the r word like blue this is it's great like i mean you're gonna get or what about the sun right well you tweet all the time about the sky but why don't you tweet about the sun right right so it's it's yeah just block it my advice to you is uh to block and move on yeah because there are people like me and terry out there who are very glad you're still on Twitter and sharing. I love to follow you both, to be quite honest. And Terry, next question's for you, because then we're going to do a little catch-up before I get to the rest of the questions. But Brian writes in and says, my wife and I just saw the menu at Imagine Theatre in Thornhill on reclining seats.

Brian! Sounds like a VIP experience. Had a good night, I think. Holy smokes. Thoroughly enjoying it. Thor. Sounds like a VIP experience. Had a good night, I think. Holy smokes. Thoroughly enjoying it. Thoroughly enjoying it, Brian. Okay. Even with a renovated basement and so-called theater experience,

nothing replicates a real theater experience. How is movie attendance doing overall this late into COVID? Great question, Brian. Thank you. You know, I've defended the theatrical experience for about 30 years and I will continue to defend it. I agree with Brian. There's nothing like sitting in a movie theater and having a, you know, like-minded kind of emotional experience with a bunch of strangers. It's different than, you know, getting up and refilling your wine glass

or, you know, water glass, whatever, in the middle of a movie when you're at home. Your Great Lakes beer. Your Great Lakes beer. But it's not being reflected in attendance. People are going less and less to the movies. Movies like The Menu that Brian went to see are exactly the movies that people aren't going to see in theaters.

We just saw the tragic box office numbers of She Said, which I think is one of the best movies of the year, which recounts the two journalists that broke the Harvey Weinstein story in the New York Times. And wonderfully portrayed by Zoe Kazan and Carey Mulligan. But nobody went. And people aren't going because those kind of adult dramas, the menu is a comedy, a black comedy. Right. But there's like, I can watch that on my,

I'm going to wait until it comes to one of my streaming services. You're 60 inches. Yes. In the living room. I can watch that at home. Yeah. People have all the accoutrement and they have their own. You can pause to go pee.

Yes. You know what? that's the worst part about a movie can i just say it where do i do my pee break i just drank this like six liter pepsi or whatever and it cost seven dollars yeah yeah you had to get a loan but like i don't want to miss that moment there's always that moment in a movie where that's the line like where everything twists and imagine you're in the washroom for that minute like and then you just you know where do it when i know there's an app for this but anyway i'm off topic well you have to go to the movies more often so you can anticipate those moments and not listen to your bladder but it is too predictable terry time but no i mean i

i still love going to the movies um okay but straight up do you pay to go to the movies i did i paid to see wak Forever. Just checking. Okay. Yeah, I went opening day at one o'clock in the hour. I loved Wakanda Forever. See, but those are the movies that do get the people in the theaters. Yeah, you know, I mean, listen, the MCU is not responsible for, you know, the demise of movies in a way that people tend to talk about. There used to be a time when, you know, all those movies that were geared at adults were, you know, allowing the industry to rise to new levels. That's just not the case anymore.

And the fact is, there's a lot of stuff on our streaming channels that is really, really great. I mean, it's hard to compare with season five of The Crown. I mean, those production values in that show are spectacular. There's, you know, a whodunit series called The Pact on Super Channel that is fantastic and twisty and turny and kind of satisfies that itch. So the theatrical experience has a lot more competition right now and there is a mindset from people that they can get a similar enough experience at home. I'm very glad Brian and his wife are going to... What were they doing in those reclining seats? I hope they were watching

the movie, Mike. Snuggling? And if they were having a little canoodle... How old am I? Good job. I love that. You pulled that from the far reaches of your brain. Or maybe it was in the frontal lobe. Terrible word. Canoodle. I'm all

about old-timey speech. Oh, I thought you were, yeah. Tara's quite the canoodler. But do you guys not go to the movies? Like, do you guys go to the movies? I occasionally, occasionally. The last one I went to see was the David Bowie Moon Age Daydream,

which was worth going to see in a theater. But, I mean, we have a great little setup at home. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I'm, I'm amongst those who kind of prefers the home experience for the most part. I hear you.

Wow. Okay. You mentioned super channel. So Terry, let's find out, let's get an update. Uh, I mean,

it's been a long time since you've been on trauma. I get a little, so it's kind of funny cause I know you were on the feminine warriors and then it's like, so you'll be on things, you'll be on humble and Fred, like things I produce. And I'm like, I have to remind myself,

Oh, that wasn't Toronto Mike. Cause Tara too, by the way, who was on, uh, Ralph Ben Merigie's podcast as well, talking about,

and I'm going to be on Helen's podcast soon. I know. Because I said, you know, she's coming here. I said, you know, she's in my basement on the 22nd,

but of course you've got other, yeah, we were it another day uh you're gonna visit remotely but uh you let's just do that right now i'll switch things up but terry how do you know helen tansy again helen tansy took my picture she's um firstly and foremost i know her as a really really talented photographer who has taken some frankly frankly, spectacular pictures of me. Well, I would say you're a photographer's dream. Well, that's kind of me. It would be difficult to get a bad picture. And then she asked me to be in her book that she...

Sundari. Sundari Women, which were all women over the age of 40 and gorgeous black and white pictures. And we all wrote how we felt about aging, the aging process. And it was beautiful coffee table book. And, you know, my parents really liked that I was in that book. That's amazing. That's lovely.

And then I became a fan and I actually brokered her relationship with you to produce. Yeah. Thank you. You with you to produce. Yeah. Thank you. You introduced me to Helen. Yeah. And then, uh, it's been great.

And I love working with Helen and it's all thanks to, uh, Terry Hart. Brokering things. That's what I like to do. You bring people together. Okay. And look at me.

I know you guys, maybe you guys hang every weekend, but I'm like, I got Tara Sloan and Terry Hart together. Okay. But only an hour. So give us the update on your life. Like,

so last time we talked, you were at breakfast television. So I know this is really old news now, but you're no longer at breakfast television. I'm no longer at Rogers or breakfast television. And it was a rocky one in full transparency. I was pretty transparent about how rocky that transition was for me. It's the home of real talk.

And, you know, it went, I lost my job there. They fired me, to be clear, in November of 2019. And then that little pandemic started in North America, at least in March of 2020. So, and I was not in a great mental health space. So things kind of unraveled a little bit in my life.

Well, I see, I follow you on social media. So what I remember, and again, I know people curate their feeds, you don't get everything. But I remember you sort of threw yourself into volunteering, like you were becoming like, like, let's get vaccinated Toronto. And I would see photos of you getting shots in people's arms. Yeah, I really did throw myself into volunteering through a couple different organizations friendly neighbor hotline which was created around the pandemic for delivering groceries to seniors who are living in lower income housing i also volunteered at the stop i helped create a weekly meal for people at their to you um which would inspiring and then i got into volunteering at vaccination clinics. And it was truly one of the most rewarding experiences of my life.

I was there when it first started, when it was the Hunger Games of vaccines. And what I saw in terms of human behavior was incredible on both ends of it. Some terrible behavior and some exceptional behavior. But the terrible people probably aren't getting vaccinated. No, I mean, you'd be surprised. Like at the time there were lots of people. Like jump in the queue. And we're all Gen X here.

Like, did we all do the AZ first? I did. I did too. Like a sort of, no, get out of the Gen X club. Yeah, I didn't. But I didn't also because one of the things the gen x club yeah i didn't but i didn't um also because one of the things was because i was volunteering at vaccination clinics i was able to get vaccinated earlier than my cohort would have um which is whatever you want to which makes sense is it is

what it is so i did a ton of volunteering for over a year and i was I mean let's be clear I was in a very fortunate position that I was able to do that with a very supportive husband and um because I didn't think I was going to be broadcasting anymore and I thought well I've got to learn a new skill so I might as well volunteer and figure out what I'd like to do and what I can learn and you learn a lot volunteering. And so I did. And it was wonderful. And then Super Channel called. And that was a nice call to get. Thank you very much, Super Channel. It's a super channel, so that's good.

It is. They do really great, interesting things. It really is a nice fit for me. I'm creating content for their social media channels. I do a Terry Hart Super Pick every week, which really does come from me. I'm creating content for their social media channels. I do a Terry Hart super pick every week, which really does come from me. It's not coming from programming or marketing and or any of that. So I have, it really is stamped with me and my integrity and how I feel. And what's great about super channel is they have a lot of Canadian content, which has always been kind of in my wheelhouse, first and foremost,

in terms of movies that I talk about. And they have a lot of independent movies, movies that are harder to find and harder to market. And, you know, it's so fun to be able to tell people about movies. You know, like you guys should both watch a movie called Boiling Point, which is just fantastic. It's a one-shot movie, 90 minutes set on the last Saturday before Christmas in the UK in a restaurant. And it's just how everything kind of unfolds and goes wrong.

It's really exciting and really great. So I'm very happy. It's a very part-time gig, but it's a really fun one to do. And then I do CBCQ quite often. Yes, I hear you on CBCQ quite often. Amazing. Yeah, that's a really fun show. I mean, they're really talented

people that are working there with a really great mandate for how they're talking about art and entertainment. And you sound great on that show. Oh, thanks, Mike. I'm here to pump your tires. You came to the right place. Well, Tom Power is very talented, and so is Talia Schlanger, who fills in for Tom often.

I like her. I'm going to be on tomorrow, actually. Okay, great. That's a very thorough and awesome update on Terry Hart. Now I turn, I look at Tara Sloan now. Okay, so this is a little fresher. These wounds are fresher than the BT wounds over there. But, firstly, Gare Joyce. You know Gare. Okay, so this is a little fresher. These wounds are fresher than the BT wounds over there.

But firstly, Gare Joyce. You know Gare. Gare was here last week with David Schultz and Mark Hebger, and we recorded this every spring, a parade down Bay Street, which people should check out. I think I dropped it on Friday. But okay, Gare, he wrote to Gare. He's a great writer.

But Gare says, huge respect for Tara Sloan. Oh, that's nice. Wow. Awesome. Okay. What respect for Tara Sloan. Oh, that's nice. Wow. Awesome. Okay. What happened to Tara Sloan? So you were co-hosting with Ron McLean, Hometown Hockey on Rogers Sportsnet. So you give us the update on your life

and why you're no longer at Sportsnet. Well, I think those of us who have been struggling to get Hometown Hockey up and running for, you know, basically the last three seasons of our existence saw the writing on the wall. We managed to get in, I think, 14 out of 25 stops our last season. And I mean, it just became such a logistical nightmare to do during an ongoing pandemic. So we pretty much thought, you know, with scheduling and sponsorship, it just didn't seem like it was going to survive. And so it took a little while for them to confirm that to us, but we knew. You were not blindsided.

No, not even a little bit. So I was making plans. Okay, okay i'm gonna ask you about those plans making plans for nigel that's a good jam too okay great jam i'm going to we should kick out the gems one day maybe next time uh tar is in town okay so is it cost cutting in a nutshell because the the pandemic is done in terms of like crowds gathering. So is this just, you were a cost that was cut? I think so. I mean, you know, the show itself went away. You know, I wasn't the only person who wasn't invited back.

My contract was not renewed. I think that's how we're putting it. Well, Gare Joy's also, by the way. He came over the day he emptied his desk. Yeah, there are some of us. So, you know, I mean, for the people on my team, I am deeply disappointed that they were not able to find other places for them because honestly, the Rogers Hometown Hockey family

just was filled with some of the best minds, the best producers. So I'll say that that's a disappointment to me. For me, I was ready to move on, you know, to go down the personal route a little bit. I've been involved in a long distance relationship for almost three years now with somebody who lives in California. So we, through the pandemic, tried to do this crazy commute. And so in the back of my mind through this last year, I thought, okay, well, if hometown hockey doesn't come back, I'm going to make the leap. And so that's sort of, you know, as soon as my contract was not renewed, we kind of shifted into gear and thought, okay, how are we going to make

this happen? And so I've been spending a lot of time down there, you know, obviously making connections and trying to figure out how I can get a job going through the immigration process. And I am very happy to say that as of the day we are recording, I don't know when you put this live. It's going to be live before you get to your destination in the junction. Okay. So today at 2 o'clock Pacific, 5 o'clock Eastern, it will be announced that I am officially joining the San Jose Sharks as a content contributor. Yeah. There you go.

Wow. Congratulations. This is a big day. Especially because as we speak,'s 4 11 eastern and this doesn't get announced till 5 so you know yeah yeah so a little i'm jumping the gun a little bit but that's okay it's just between the three of us for now yeah so i'm i am honestly i'm i mean i know how fortunate i am to be able to go somewhere so far away and find such a good fit for me. I'm just going to jump in.

Fortunate. Talented. And they're lucky to have you. Thank you. And that happens because of the work you've put in. Not because of fortune. Thank you. Beautiful.

Yeah, things have lined up well, but I also, yeah, I put in, I worked my tuchus off for a long time. And they're a great organization and we have you know really the same kind of ethos so i'm psyched are you going to move to california she has yeah well i i have i have been there okay yeah but i haven't i can't immigration are you listening i have not been living there. No, let's be clear. She's here right now in Toronto, by the way.

I've still, you know, got a Toronto address. But no, I will, as of next week, I will officially be able to say. The shark's already working on the paperwork as we speak here. The paperwork will be signed and I will live, I will be living officially in California. Wow, going to California. I think that's a good jam too. Yeah, it's a good jam. Yeah.

It's a great jam. I'm telling you, we need to kick out the jams at some point. All right. Again, I'm going to be cooking with gas here due to time constraints, but that is great news. So you're both showing me there's life after Rogers.

Of course there's life after Rogers. Yes. But okay. Now Tara, don't get too comfy there because there's some hard hitting questions coming. Johnny D. Gotta dive in. And I'm reading this. This not toronto mike talking except i'm reading this gotta dive

into her random dig at don cherry a couple of weeks ago so lovely okay what say you we all kind of read these comments about don cherry but what say you what say you Tara Sloan? Well, it wasn't random. I mean, that's like, that's like, I just picked it out of thin air and decided to drive. Yeah. Right. Um, I guess I can tell you, you know, how that tweet or that series of tweets was born. Um, but it requires some background, but I'll just say that I was in Texas actually working on a corporate gig. Um, I wasn't able to watch hockey night in Canada, but I was checking Twitter and I saw Ron McLean trending as happens pretty much every Saturday now.

And it's 95% negative. Oh, he was singing Elvis. Yeah. I heard, I mean, I heard he did some Ron stuff. A lot of people sent me DMs to say, oh my God, this is the worst. You won't believe it. I'm like I domestic and you link me to it. And I'm sorry, but that's not the worst.

No, listen, I I understand that sometimes Ron goes on tangents and can be a little obtuse or you know, he can kind of go off in places that not everybody understands or resonates with. Right. But, you know, I think the universal hatred for Ron really was born after the Don.

Remembrance days. Yeah, the Poppy incident. So Ron was trending in a negative fashion. Don Cherry was trending. And as always, it is the lauding, the elevating of Don Cherry. And I just, you know, obviously I couldn't say anything about it when I worked at Rogers. Right. So, and it wasn't like it's, I've been stewing on it.

But in a way, you know, I went through this journey with Ron. I was there the day after the Poppy incident. I was there when Ron had to make a statement. I felt like Ron was put in a very compromising and difficult no-win position. And, you know, I've said this before, but I don't think people understand what happened to Ron, to us, to the show. After Don was let go and this universal sentiment of Ron through Don under the bus we needed security on hometown hockey we needed additional security well for months and months and and and again last season we had somebody set up with a big giant you know flatbed truck playing Don Cherry quotes on a loop outside of our remote studio and

the cops wouldn't do anything about it because it was a public parking lot so we you know we've been sort of haunted but also you know threatened by this contingent it's a mob and so you know i just felt very frustrated that ron is completely just gets dragged and dragged and i mean i i just think again he was put in a really really difficult position and i just remain dumbstruck by the fact that there continues to be this elevation of dawn as this important political sage figure, when in fact, and I know what I said in the tweet, and I used the word bigot, he is not an inclusive, loving human being.

And people were so mad at me for so many reasons, including how can you go after an octogenarian. I mean, he was on TV just a few years ago, and were it not for that incident, he'd probably still be on TV. People don't change. And so it wasn't random. It was born out of years of frustration watching this kind of him be this idol and i i just don't get it yeah i don't get it either you know i've i've watched it and and

unfold and the mentality the mob mentality that the second you say something that is not you know full of rainbows and unicorns about Don Cherry and I don't understand how he's become this elevated figure of and you know the holy grail of all things that represent hockey in this country and it scares me actually that there's so many people who have those blinders on and can't and will you know follow him and in his legend um down any path without questioning that's a really scary aspect of absolutely well i mean just happening i i think there's such a parallel. I mean, obviously, when you look at the horrific incidents like the mass shooting at the gay club in Colorado Springs, you know, I mean, it's really,

there's a pretty direct line between all of the anti-LGBTQ plus rhetoric that's happening with politicians and prominent figures across the country and countries, you know, who are calling for, you know, boycotting trans, you know, this and, you know, the war against trans kids. And so, you know, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to say somebody like Don, who unfortunately, unfortunately you know yes there there was stuff that was lovable about him and you recognize that I think that yeah I think I tried to be really

fair about it but when you normalize you know um the xenophobia you normalize calling people you know fairies you normalize that stuff right and people see it and they run with it and then it affects culture matter words cause action and that is all anybody is asking to be recognized here is that he had a huge amount of influence he obviously still does have a huge amount of influence. He obviously still does have a huge amount of influence. And we need to recognize what was done with that influence. Some of it positive, but a lot of negative. And I think that that was, I'm not putting words in your mouth. No, no, you're completely right. But I think that that is where you came from. And I think that those are

fair things to be saying and fair things for us as a country to look at yeah i mean the fact that he was you know i don't hold the the networks are not without responsibility that man was given a platform by our national broadcaster for three decades that's questionable but anyway i mean the whole thing obviously became a nightmare for me. I was absolutely flooded with the toxic, toxic negativity. Do you just log off Twitter for a while? Is that the move there? Yeah. I mute all those lovely people at the Toronto Sun

who took so much joy in this experience. Please get a life. Why didn't you really? See, from my perspective, stoking see from my perspective stoking a fire like stoking a fire i think there's this uh very loud vocal minority that is staunchly anti-woke is how they describe it it's brigading right like there is a word for what happens on twitter and it is brigading and that is not in the same way it happened to me in a marginal way around harry styles believe it or not i believe it yeah it and

it is terrifying when it happens because all of a sudden your twitter mentions twitter sends you a little note saying you're being mentioned a lot do you want to basically they're saying do you want to take a look at that tweet again i don't think we're getting ratioed here that's how i took that i think maybe i this was before elon but twitter but i mean you know it was it's called brigading and the they gang up they retweet and then it catches this wave that is seemingly unstoppable. And they go and they go to your other social media and start populating that with vile crap. Vile. And that, I mean, to me, that stuff's upsetting because, well, first of all, I mean, listen, I'm an adult. I know what I'm doing.

You know, I have a responsibility being on these media. But God, my daughter reads this stuff, you know, like, and people are going on pictures of commenting on pictures of myself and my daughter and stuff. When it becomes, when it gets to that point, you know, it's just, civility has long gone out the window and it's just disgusting. civility has long gone out the window and it's just disgusting so on that and again it's not that term is ridiculous anti-woke but uh don cherry seems to be like a figurehead in this movement because people see it as he was fired because he said the common you people and that you know the the ever woke rogers had to part ways because he was not politically correct or

whatever but this kind of nicely ducktails to a question I got and I didn't document who sent this question. So I'll try to dig that up before we say goodbye. But he wrote, if I'm not mistaken, Rogers hometown hockey was one of the first Canadian programs to acknowledge indigenous lands. They were broadcasting on at the start of each episode.

Whose idea was that? I think it was groundbreaking and should be acknowledged. That's for you, Tara. Wow. Here, here. Yeah, thank you for noticing. It was my idea. But I will say, because I started to notice it at TIFF.

I started to notice it at the beginning of lots of events. And I thought, well, why aren't we doing this? And we are traveling across Turtle Island and it's the least we can do. And, you know, I think we had experienced quite an awakening and an education. We were welcomed by so many indigenous communities across the country and we just, we learned much so it was my idea but it you know everybody was on board you know from me to to ron to ali redminder executive producer to everybody and to rogers themselves who i will say you know as a company has a really incredible mandate um mandate to recognize and properly acknowledge Indigenous communities. So, yeah, I was proud that we were able to do that.

All right, Terry, your turn to go on the hot seat here for a moment. Just kidding. Jane Hodden came over recently. Jane Hodden, big deal. She got on the cover of a section of the Toronto Star with the exact same headline I had, which is I'm pointing at the wall, but it was talk of the town and Jane Hodden. So we both got the same headline.

So, okay. Shout out to Jane Hodden. Jane Hodden came over because she was concerned. She says with the John Derringer news that came out months ago, that people thought of, were starting to think of QN07 as a like a misogynist place to be,

like a misogynist station. And she a misogynist station and she was concerned because she felt it was very like uh non-miss what's the term un-misogynist misogynist by the way a fantastic rusty song i saw rusty on saturday night at sneaky d's right yeah sneaky d's and uh they opened with misogyny and i screamed so loud i thought my my vocal cord they haven't recovered yet but okay. I want to know because Terry Hart, you worked at Q107. In fact,

you worked with John Derringer, right? I never worked with John. I know John, but we never worked together. Can you at least speak to that? The Q107 that you worked at, uh,

these labels, like are you shocked by this John Derringer news that came out when people like Maureen holloway and uh jennifer valentine started opening up about it uh nope wasn't shocked and you know q107 um was a rock radio station and i worked there from like 93 to 96 um god i'm old and the 90s you're in the room probably the same age um yeah 93 to 96 and yes it was misogynist i mean i i understand that we don't want it all of the good that q107 was and it was a monster of a radio station then i mean it was there was nothing bigger than q107 and but you know rock radio at the time it was the morning zoo and it was you know i mean the six back in the day it was before email and you know people used to have to send letters in for contests and whatnot and

it was 5255 young street north york ont Ontario. And on the air, they would say, the postal code was, meet two nurses, six pack four. Oh my God. I mean, you know, I was a 21, I worked there from the time I was 21 to 24. I mean, misogyny wasn't a word

that was thrown around then in the way that it is top of mind now. So could I now look back and identify it as such? Yeah. You know, should it have been? But on the air is one thing. Like, what about, what about like in the hallways in the, in, you know, when you're not on the air? I mean, we had some women that worked there.

Jane Haughton worked there and she was an incredibly talented broadcaster. Marsha Lederman was a news broadcaster. You know, obviously Donna Saker was on the morning show. But I can name the number of women. I didn't know any women in management or program director or promotions director. Everybody was a man. And I mean, that was radio at the time,

and it was also rock radio at the time. And it was also rock radio at the time. So you don't populate, you know, an entire staff with all men without it being misogynist. It's it's really I came through the experience fine. But I look back and I certain things should not have gone down the way they went down did you like did you witness any of these beratings i hear about when humble and fred tell me stories about working down the hall from john derringer i never worked with john um but i am i am friends with jennifer valentine um i know and have a great respect for maureen Holloway. And I know a lot of people. I think that, you know,

Supriya said it best when she said everybody in that building knew what was going on in there. And I should say also, I'm going to be doing some fill-in work on AM640. So that's kind of news. You know, don't bury the lead here. That's exciting.

I keep forgetting about that because I'm so intimidated by it's a good radio advice greg brady like who are you filling in for no i'm not filling in for greg i'm gonna be doing kelly catrera like 7 a.m to 10 a.m like in those weird um kind of hallucinogenic days in between christmas and new years so um it'll be interesting it'll be fun i haven't done top radio so anyway that just popped into my mind talking about. Well, this is exciting. I'm going to be in that building. Breaking news.

We're both breaking some news today. This is great. Okay. So, but here, just to wrap up the John Derringer thing. John Derringer doesn't exist without management allowing him to exist and behave that way. Because he generated revenue. And they wanted to turn a blind eye they didn't ultimately they didn't think it mattered they sacrificed because

of this right i'm doing the money symbol everybody because of money and because when somebody is that big of a bully he was probably a bully to his bosses also and did he generate a ton of money for the station? Sure he did. But I've heard that since they've been doing a rotating morning show on Q107, listenership hasn't gone down that much. So maybe

that old bubmastic morning show mail is no longer worth that money. Look, I know Tara's heading to California here, but the Terry and Tara morning show on Q107 would be amazing. We'd be good. We'd be really good. It's about time that there is, you know,

a two-woman morning show in this country with a male doing the traffic. Yes. Traffic boy. Traffic boy. What's the opposite of misogyny? We just dipped our toes in there. Yep, yep. doing the traffic yes i want to shout out jackie delaney really quick because uh a month before jennifer valentine dropped the video the video heard around the world okay uh jackie delaney came on this very program and kind of uh for the first time publicly disclosed that she left radio because of john derringer and the verbal abuse she experienced so shout out to jackie delaney and like listen these are the women we know about imagine how

many people he impacted that left the business that didn't that were afraid to go into that morning show and who still wouldn't want to come forward because look what you get yeah you know i mean you can't it's not putting yourself out there uh is not fun and we see it in you know i mentioned she said which is again a great movie go see she said um and they talk about how difficult it is and how dangerous it is for women to come forward and actually go public with their abusive stories. It's why, you know, hashtag Me Too took on a life of its own because we've all had experiences. And you and I, not to, I don't want to, you know, veer off, but you and I were in agreement about how Amber Heard was treated.

Yes. And I mean, it took months for this legion of feminists to come forward on you know with an open letter but we were disgusted by that right disgusted so what specifically just so i understand uh well to bring up the brigading i mean the johnny depp fans were relentless and she was she was abused by him i mean nobody questioned that but she was abused by him. I mean, nobody questioned that. But she was not the perfect victim. No. There were holes in her story, as they would be with, you know, who has perfect recollection,

especially when there's trauma involved? Nobody. You know, she wasn't perfect, a perfect partner. But anyway, it was disgusting. And I mean, I hate using witch hunt because I think Donald Trump ruined it. But it truly was a witch hunt, I think. Yeah, I really would suggest, again, just to, if anybody is listening to this and saying, oh, but she did this and oh, but she did that.

Just run out and get Sarah Polly's book, Run Towards the Danger, and read the chapter on her own abuse situation. Which I just bought and I can't wait to read. Oh, your mind is going to be blown. Yes. Just blown. The whole book is fantastic. But that specific chapter

and how she writes so clearly about the questions I think is amazing. She's having a run. She's going to be up for a couple Academy Awards with her movie Women Talking this year. She's going to be for sure.

She was just nominated for a bunch of Independent Spirit Awards today. Without question, she will be nominated for Best Director and probably Best Film as well. Go Sarah, go. You heard it here first,

everybody. Okay. So I'm going to thank some partners super fast. Cause then I have a song to introduce the topic in our last 10 minutes. I want to let you know. In fact, I'm going to look you in the eyes, Terry,

because I think Tara, I'm not sure she could take it, but I'm offering it to you. Absolutely. There is a frozen lasagna for you in my freezer, courtesy of Palma pasta. Delicious. You'll love it. You'll love it my freezer, courtesy of Palma Pasta. Delicious. You'll love it. You'll love it.

Don't leave here. That box is empty now. It'll be full when you leave. Thank you, Palma Pasta. I was actually there yesterday because we're going to have an event there on December 3rd at noon at Palma's Kitchen, TMLX 11. All FOTMs are invited. Of course, you too are invited. You're getting your lasagna.

Their packaging is very nice. I said that yesterday. I said the red people love the red box. It's like they're holding them up for the photo by the tree. It's a, oh, and you both leaned in on your picture. You noticed that on Twitter. You had the same, yeah, so I want you, one on each side, leaning in for our photo after this.

Okay, thank you. Those are your orders. Okay. Thank you Great Lakes Brewery. I got some fresh craft beer for you as well, courtesy of Great Lakes. They're going to send some beer to TMLX11. And we love Great Lakes here. There is a Toronto Mike sticker for each of you, courtesy of StickerU.com. Shout out to StickerU.com. And while I'm shouting people out, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.

Brad Jones there has a great podcast called Life's Undertaking. Do either of you consume cannabis? Or if you can plead the fifth, even though this is Canada. Not regularly, but occasionally. Yeah. I don't smoke it. You eat it? You drink it?

I've used edibles. All right. Yeah. Okay. Well, you know where you go for your edibles. You go to Canna Cabana because they won't be undersold on cannabis or cannabis accessories. And there's over 140 locations across the country. So thank you, Canna Cabana.

We've been talking, we've referenced a few 90s alt-rock bands. There's another one I'm going to reference in a minute with a song, but we talked about Rusty. But I think The Watchmen, that's a great band, The Watchmen. Wouldn't you say, Tara?

Oh yeah, absolutely. I saw Danny was singing the national anthem at the Winnipeas oh yeah absolutely i saw danny was uh singing the national anthem uh at the winnipeg jets game i think it was yesterday night he did that but sammy cone is the drummer for the watchman and he's been drumming up results as a real estate agent and if you have any real estate questions whatsoever send them to sammy.cone k-o-h-n at properlyhomes.ca one more gift and then I get to the jam, and then we're going to do a killer 10 minutes to say goodbye. There's a wireless speaker for each of you.

That's courtesy of Moneris. That's a Bluetooth speaker. I know. What did you get when you were here last time? You stepped it up. Anything? Beer. Beer.

It started with the beer. I mean, you can't go wrong. Can't sneeze at that. No. So it started with the beer. I'm so anxious for this. I'm opening it right now. Okay.

Well, yeah, go ahead. You can. It's an unboxing. Okay. I love it. Okay. So what are you going to do with that? Well, obviously, you're going to be listening to some great jams, but you're also going

to listen to a couple of fantastic podcasts. Moneris has a show called Yes, We Are Open. This is hosted by FOTM Al Grego. He's actually here Thursday night. Go to yesweareOpenPodcast.com to subscribe. He's telling the stories of Canadian small businesses and their perseverance

in the face of overwhelming adversity. So that's Yes We Are Open. That's a nice one. I like that. And it's an award winning podcast. We're going to get the details Thursday night. But Al won some prestigious awards. So good for you, Al. Chris Cooksey, we got to get you an award, buddy. You host the fantastic

Advantaged Investor Podcast from Raymond James. You get insights from leading professionals, valuable perspectives for Canadian investors who want to remain knowledgeable, informed, and focused on long-term successes. Ha! I know this song. holds up i'm telling you i've been listening to it since uh you came in the calendar again i was beautiful like you jerry do you recognize that voice i do how it's unmistakable next year 2023 is the 25th anniversary of this release. Wow. We gotta figure out some stuff.

We gotta do some stuff. Okay. Do you hear it and want to be back on stage in that way? I do. I miss it. I miss it incredibly. I don't integrate music enough in my

life because whenever I pick up my guitar whenever I just sing it brings me so much joy. I don't integrate music enough in my life because whenever I pick up my guitar, whenever I just sing, it brings me so much joy. You know, I don't really miss the days of hustle, because, you know, nothing ever felt like we'd accomplished enough. It was always like, oh, but if we're at number seven, oh God, we've got to get to number five and got to get to number one. So, you know, I'm glad we did the grind.

This totally holds up. And I just love music so much. Thanks. I'm beautiful like me. Yeah, man. It sounds good. Beautiful like me. Like, Tara's kind of a neat guest

because you could book her based on this alone. Totally. She was just the singer from Joy Drop. You could have Tara Sloan in for like a deep dive and have a great time

or whatever. But that's what I was saying at the beginning, you know, talking about Tara. It's phenomenal that, you know, we're listening to this that she dropped 25 years ago. And then, you know, having the conversation about her sticking up for what's right and calling out people for not being cool.

And it's just, it really is a remarkable trajectory, my friend. Well, thank you. Do you realize you both were on breakfast televisions at different times at different markets? It's true. I think we were, did you ever come on BT when I was on BT? I came on, yep, I came on just as sort of a guest host a couple of times. But yeah, I did Calgary, BT Calgary, 2010 to 2015,

which really really you know is how hometown hockey happened for me so I'm grateful but man I am not cut out for that schedule really not I went to Los Angeles last week and it was brutal like just stupid airplane

travel and I was like how did I used to live my life like this it is unfathomable and like if my alarm goes off before 7.30 in the morning now I was like, how did I used to live my life like this? It is unfathomable. If my alarm goes off before 7.30 in the morning now, I'm like, my goodness! It's like if you ran every day, every day you ran 20k every

day, right? You didn't question it. This is what I do every day. I kind of like this with bike rides actually. If you take a week off, sometimes you just don't get back to it. It's like a switch in the head or something. It's like you're in a different mindset you're like I'm not doing that. I think there are people who

have a level of discipline or have a level of really liking that time of the day. I never really did. Yeah but people like that time of the day because they like the paycheck that comes in. And you know it also frees up a good chunk of your actual day. Like you can get stuff done.

That's what Humble and Fred say all the time. You know, I produce their show and they're like, you know, at 10 a.m., they're done for the day. They go golfing or whatever. And you can do stuff at times where, you know, gyms aren't busy. Golf courses aren't busy. You know, it kind of buys you some time. But for me, I just got more and more. It didn't

get easier. What's the effect here? Are you singing into a megaphone or something on the microphone? In the video, I think I am. But no, I mean, listen. If you do this live, what do you do for this? You just like... Our audio person will put some kind of overdrive.

Yeah. I ask the tough questions on this program. Okay, I'm letting this song because I'm going to start another song to get

to the Joy Drop questions here. Good fate. Good cross fate. And it all happened, you saw it, it all happened in real time.

I think this is my favorite. Let's continue. I almost don't want to talk over it. Okay, Kara. Kara or Kara. Just like we don't know if it's tara or tara kara i'm going to cara okay right uh is it too late to ask if there can be a joy drop reunion or even a one-off performance so first you answer that tara and then i'll tell you my uh my fantasy

okay i think i know your fantasy or at least one of them. Spoiler alert. I don't know all of them, nor do I want to. This is my fantasy. I'll tear it in half at the same time. No, it's a great question and I think especially realizing that next year is the 25th anniversary of our first release, Metasexual.

It feels like a really good time to try to get a few shows organized. we're talking to some people I in fact just got a direct message today from Trevor Hurst from McConnell and Crush they're also doing doing some dates so I think we're going to talk to some of our friends and I think there's an appetite for us you know for it you know Drake just did those Toronto legends

where he had like a bunch of people like Keisha Shantae and Dream Warriors and like you guys could do a version of that well I think I do I think people have a lot of

nostalgia for the 90s okay you're talking to the guy who like pilots this ship here okay there is a massive appetite for like like Okay, you're talking to the guy who pilots this ship here, okay? There is a massive appetite for... I mean, you're talking to a guy who after TMLX 11 on December 3rd, a bunch of us are literally

going to Lee's Palace to see Lois of the Low, okay? We have this huge appetite for 90s Canadian alt-rock. Hook that Killjoys to my vein. Rusty, I talked to the guys after the show. I'm like, you guys are still fucking great. Come back my vein. Like, Rusty, I talked to the guys after the show. I'm like, you guys are still fucking great. Come back to the basement. They're like, we want to come back

to the basement. I love this scene. There's absolutely an appetite for the 90s alt-rock that we listen to on 102.1, etc. The Edge. Yeah, we're gonna try to get something going, for sure. Because, Terry, we talked a lot about Q107, but Q107 never played Joy Drop.

No. They sucked. I know. What's up with that? It was classic rock. Yeah, it was classic rock. Even more alt. Yeah, CFNY was really good to us actually. So grateful for that. I remember the first time I heard Beautiful

on 102.1 The Edge and it was like one of those specialty shows. And they give you a heads up, you know, it's going to be on at 1130 p.m. Who was the host? That I don't remember. Oh, that's what I'm interested in. Damn. Was it Dave Bookman?

I don't know if it was me. If it was evenings, it was Brother Bill. You know what? It might have been Bookie's show, but I don't know. All right. But it might have been Brother Bill, who is a very dear FOTM, very dear friend of his. And I went to high school with Brother Bill. Brampton.

You got it. Did you know Leigh Aaron when she was a Karen? I didn't. Okay. Because this came up in a DM thread, me and Brother Bill talking. They both were around the same circles in Brampton at the same time.

No. You used to hang out at Shopper's World? No, I was like Bram-ily. Okay. I went to Junkuzi Secondary School. Okay, okay okay okay shout out to to brampton here i did promise uh an exit so i my last minute here i'll just read the next quite quickly advert right i'm out of time right yeah but i just want to add a post script to

actually how we know each other oh which i just remembered my Oh my God, that's right. How did we forget this part? That's right. It just came in my head. Oh, wow. We just had a collective gap. You saved yourself there. Yes. Your husband, who you're still with. I am still with.

You're happy? Wink. I am. I am. I am. We've been together for a long time. So he produced a movie. Called Foolproof, starring Ryan Reynolds.

Never heard of him. You know, he's gone on to do nothing okay so foolproof has tara sloan in it yes yes that's right he cast you i mean he did he and for sure yeah yeah would you do more acting um i mean i'll put you in stew stone snakes i'll say that that is definitely you know uh i have i'm really out of practice i did an episode of hudson and rex um i did an episode of hudson yeah it's fun right so fun and i actually like really had to act i was a grieving mother um and i i loved being part of it but i mean i definitely think that you know i went to theater school like i understand that you can't just jump into it's a vocation so um you know i don't want

to be a dilettante and just be like i can do that but they didn't get me to play a grieving mother on hudson and rex i played an entertainment reporter by the name of terry hulk that's a stretch through the humble and fred connection uh i spend time with dan duran okay and dan duran's in lots of things but he always plays a newscaster or anchorman like he's got that look that's that look if you need a newscaster for your production that's filming here you get you know an hour is not long enough like uh maybe i'll burn in this song here quick just advertisement says does joy drop have a new album forthcoming no but we know what we have been writing songs over the years and there's you know i think if we did a little run of shows in summer of 2023 we

would try to proceed that with at least a few new releases so now i don't think enough oh and my fantasy i almost forgot to share my family my fantasy is uhMLX, let me see, there's 11, then we have 12. TMLX 13 at Great Lakes Brewery next August or early September and Joy Drop or some variation therein because I didn't have Lois and Lo, I just had Lawrence and Rowan Hawkins, but some variation therein

which must include Tara Sloan performing live. Well, I'm sure I can help make your dreams come true. Figure it out. You're telling me to dream bigger is what you're telling me. Okay, no. Oh, and by the way, can I just say,

I'm performing, by the way, on Thursday night with the Rio Static. Okay. Shout out to Dave Bedini. Shout out to Dave Bedini. Yeah. Where's that, the Horseshoe? Horseshoe, they're doing three nights.

The first night is special guest night. So people like, I don't know, Alex Lifeson will be there. He's got a new project. The drummer for that project was just here. That's right. David Quinton Steinberg. Oh, nice. And that's, yeah, Envy of None.

So, yeah, it's going to be an incredible night. I am such a Rios fan. It's sort of a, I'm pinching myself. And then, yeah, they're doing three full nights at the SHU. See, all these things we're finding out during the extra here. Okay. And the last question, which is a bigger one, but just I don't think you have anything to say about it

except to acknowledge it happened. But a person wrote in upset that Rogers Hometown Hockey deleted their Twitter and FB accounts and that many good stories and videos that were linked to no longer exist. Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up. And that is disappointing because I hope that they live on the sportsnet.ca website. But you're right.

You know, I think storytelling was our forte. And if that stuff has gone into the ether, that's too bad. I don't know why they have to erase things. It's one thing. I don't know why they do that either. I don't know why either. But Terry Hart, just before I do the proper extra, I'm glad you fully recovered from COVID-19

because you look very healthy. Thank you very much. Yeah, I had a bit of a rough go. Again, the irony of it all after volunteering at Bax Clinics and then I got the COVID-19 at the end of August and spent a day in the hospital with an idea of steroids. I did not spend the night. I really, really wanted to go home and I live around the day in the hospital with an eye of steroids. I did not spend the night. I really, really wanted to go home,

and I live around the corner from the hospital, and I promised I would go back if I needed to. But yeah, it's no joke. Don't put off your vaccinations. Get them when you're due. I was born at that hospital, by the way. Okay. And that brings us to the end of our 1,156th show.

That was my head. Don't hit your head on the microphone, Terry, because you're supposed to hit your head on the ceiling. I'm always so shocked at that number. It's a lot of episodes. It only took me 10 and a half years. Good for you. You can follow me on Twitter.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Okay, Terry, are you at Terry Hart? T-E-R-I Hart. H-A-R-T. That's exactly where I am. And the San Jose Sharks very own. Woo, woo, woo. That's exciting.

Tara Sloan. Isn't that weird? That's so weird. That's amazing. Right? I'm happy for you. Thank you. I'm happy for you too.

That's an exclusive for another four minutes. Okay. What is your handle on Twitter? At Tara Sloan. T-A-R-A-S-L-O-N-E. And by the way, Sloan is another great 90s alt-rock band. Shout out to Sloan. Shout out to

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