Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Ted Woloshyn: Toronto Mike'd #956

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Mike chat with Ted Woloshyn about his battle with COVID-19, why he's no longer at Newstalk 1010, and his new podcast before Ted kicks out his 10 favourite songs of all-time.

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Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921, and Mike Majeski of Remax Specialists Majeski Group, who's ripping up the GTA real estate scene. Learn more at realestatelove.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com, and joining me this week to kick out the jams is Ted Wallachian. Welcome back, Ted. Thanks for having me. It's nice to be back. I didn't bump my head this time. I finally figured out to warn the guest, and maybe they won't do that.

It took me about 600 episodes to figure that out. Ted, we got so much ground to cover before we kick out the jams, but you were mentioning on your way in here that you listened to the Dave Charles episode. I was listening to the Dave Charles episode, yeah, yesterday, the day before. I can't remember. Sometime in the last couple of days. Dave and I have a long history together. When I was working

in Peterborough, and I was being mentored by the late Terry Steele, who was at Chum at the time, 1050 Chum, and he was helping me with tapes, and he had taken a tape to Dave Charles because Dave was at Chum at the time, 1050 Chum. And he was helping me with tapes. And he had taken a tape to Dave Charles because Dave was at that point consulting for CFOX Radio in Montreal. Montreal, right. On the West Island.

And he got me a job. Gord James was the program director. Okay, yeah, there's a name I know. Yeah. So Dave got me that job. Now, after I left Montreal, I went and I worked in Hamilton for a while at CKOC, which Dave worked at for years.

He wasn't there when I was there. Then when I left there, Alan Slate got a license for Q107. Dave Charles was program director. Dave Charles hired me to do the weekend mornings in a show called The Comedy Bowl. Amazing. And you never know how the Canadian media landscape is connected

like you know Ted Walsh you show up you know whenever you're talking to somebody you typically hear a Ted story but we're here to kick out the jams but there's a little bit of housekeeping I'll do off the top and then we got to catch up with you because you've had quite the quite the pandemic my friend and we got to catch up with you because you've had quite the, uh, quite the pandemic,

my friend. And I, I got to capture this story. So let me just do these really quick housekeeping is to tell the FOTMs that, uh, on December 9th, that's coming up December 9th at 7 PM.

There's an open zoom for any and all FOTMs you want to participate. Uh, I have the link and all you have to do is DM me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike or write me Mike at Toronto Mike dot com and I'll send you the Zoom link and you can join us

December 9th at 7 p.m. It'll be a lot of fun and we'll crack open a Great Lakes beard together and enjoy. And also if you it's not too late to get in on the FOTM KOTJ holiday edition.

So if you record yourself talking about your favorite holiday song for 30 to 60 seconds and email me that clip, that audio file, mike at torontomike.com, you'll be a part of a future volume which I'm putting together.

So housekeeping out of the way, Ted, I wore my Conquer COVID t-shirt for you. I noticed that. You, my friend, I'm just happy to see you, man, because I heard terrible things and I need to know all the facts. You survived COVID-19.

I did. I did. I got it. I was hospitalized for 10 days at Crater Valley Hospital. They took terrific care of me, the nurses and the doctors. God bless each and every one of them. I don't know how they put up with that kind of work. It's brutal. It's just so depressing, so painful. They were terrific. So I was in for 10 days. Fortunately, I wasn't in intensive care. It was just in a ward. Well, by ward, the room held two beds, but they only put

one person per room. And I wasn't intubated i didn't have a tube i just had the little oxygen tubes for about nine days and then for a day they let me off the oxygen for a day to see if i could sustain without it then i did and then they sent me home on day 10 and i came home and i was i weighed 143 pounds and you're a tall man i need to tell the people i'm almost six four so yeah you're a tall man. I need to tell the people. Yeah, I'm almost 6'4". Yeah, you're a very tall man. I've been weighed that since probably grade 6. I can imagine.

Honestly, there was, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there media reports or at least some rumblings that Ted Wallachian had passed away? Yes, yes. Yes, as a matter of fact. Who reported that?

Do you got names for me? Well, I don't know who reported it, but Joe Warrington of The Sun called me because he had heard that. Right. And he wanted to find out whether it was true or not. Right. And I also got a call from Hazel McCallion, who's the mayor, the former mayor of Mississauga,

who called me and she said, Ted, I'm glad to hear you're okay because my son told me that you had died. And I said, no, no, I'm fine. Thank you very much because my son told me that that you had died and I said no no I'm fine thank you very much Hazel I appreciate it then I thought you know something very disconcerting about having a hundred year old person asking you if you're dead that's true that is true uh Hazel by the way is a future guest of Toronto Mike she's going to come on there's a oh she's great you'll love her I was told, I can't do my normal 90 minutes of Hazel, apparently.

That could kill her. So we're going to do, I think, maybe 20 to 30 minutes, but looking forward to that. And Ted, so they removed this oxygen to see if you could breathe on your own. What happens if you can't breathe on your own? Well, then I would have probably had to stay for a little longer until I was strong enough, because

they didn't want to send me home with oxygen tanks. Was there a moment during your battle against COVID-19 when you thought, oh, here I go, I'm going to be a statistic here? There was one night, about four nights into it, when suddenly they came to me, and I was sort of semi-asleep, and they took the tubes out of me, and they gave me a bag, which is really loud. so i guess that's like some sort of i don't know what what you'd call it and then i had to breathe through it was like and that was for about 20 minutes or half an hour and i kind of got my heart racing

and thinking well this is not going the right way uh because i was not using this before but then i finished the bag off and they said okay you're okay so i guess they regulated it and thinking, well, this is not going the right way because I was not using this before. But then I finished the bag off and they said, okay, you're okay. So I guess they regulated it. So that was kind of scary. Well, I'm glad because you look great and you sound good and strong. You're clearly not dead.

I just want to let people know Ted is alive and well. Yes, I am. And I will tell you though, it's interesting. This is episode 956 or something like that. And never in the history, the almost 10 year history of Toronto Mike has a guest of Toronto Mike passed away. Like you, you almost became the first.

Oh, good. Would I have gotten a especially large piece of Palma Pasta? You're the big Palma Pasta fan, right? I am a big Palma Pasta fan. I remember this. I've been going to them for years. There's one 10 minutes from my house. Because Dave Charles also loves, he lives in Oakville,

and there's a location in Oakville that he frequents, and he also loves the Palma pasta. So I do have another meat lasagna, a large meat lasagna in the freezer for you. Excellent. You're taking that home. Excellent. I do now remember it. it was a sauce, right?

You were explaining to me last. It is. It's the whole thing about it is they manage the sauce, whether it's cannelloni, whether it's rigatoni, whether it's lasagna, whether it's just the meat sauce, the sauce is the king. If you can't get, an Italian friend of mine told me this once. He says, you go to an Italian restaurant,

and the first thing you do is just ask for a little appetizer with some sauce, just a little pasta, and if they haven't got it right, leave. That's so smart. Okay, so you're going home with some Palma Pasta, which we know you love, and I'm happy to do that. Thank you, Palma Pasta. People should go to Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville,

palmapasta.com, and I'm also going to send you home with some fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery as well. So you're bringing home some good gifts. And I'll give you more later, but I want to get back to COVID for a moment. Ted, just a couple of thoughts on COVID. I figure you're coming in, you survived COVID.

So since you survived COVID and then did you get vaccinated subsequently? Yeah, double. So your double vax post covid that sort of like makes you i'm thinking that'll make you very uh uh you're very protected right now why i am more so than someone who is just double vax because because i did have covid and i got through it and then i am double vaxed right but now they're saying that uh after six months after your second vax you you're probably in the booster time.

And I'm closing in on six months. Okay. So here are my quick thoughts. And you can tell me your thoughts in this vein. So for a long time now, I've been completely done with case counts. Like when the news tells me, I don't know, let's make it up, 800 new cases in Toronto or whatever. I haven't cared for a very make it up, 800 new cases in Toronto or whatever. I don't care any, I haven't cared

for a very long time because case counts to me don't matter if the vaccination has successfully defanged COVID-19. Like, the whole idea was we get vaccinated, even my 5-year-old and 7-year-old have their first shots now. You get vaccinated, you've defanged

this virus, and case counts don't mean anything if you're not going to the hospital like you had to endure because you're vaccinated. What do you think of the fact the news keeps throwing case counts at us? Does that mean anything to you? Well, it does and it doesn't.

I mean, right now, because of this new variant that they're talking about. Omicron. And you're seeing numbers going up to 800, 900, 1,000, I think, a couple of days ago. That's a little worrisome're seeing numbers going up to 800, 900, 1000, I think a couple of days ago. That's a little worrisome, but then you have to look, there are other numbers you have to consider. And probably the most important numbers are hospitalizations. And out of those hospitalizations, how many of them are in intensive care? Right. Those are the key numbers, because

that's what they really need to do is to ensure that they can handle, in case it gets out of control completely, that they're sufficiently prepared to handle it. And while I'm ranting about this virus, because I agree with you there, Ted, but you mentioned the new variant, Omicron, is what they're calling this thing. I'm just here to say I'm not jumping on this hype cycle and living in fear again until

they report back that this vaccination does not defang this variant like I need to hear that conclusively said by the appropriate medical professionals that sorry guys this variant Omicron doesn't give a rat's ass about your vaccination because if the vaccination holds up

against Omicron and defangs that as well, which I'm hoping it will, obviously, like, let's keep moving here. Like, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. So that's where I'm at.

I mean, Omicron is all over the news. CP24 is going nuts with it. But I need to hear definitively somebody say, oh, by the way, your vaccination does not help you with this variant. Although they're believing that they probably will.

Right, and that's where I'm going to... So basically, I'm not going to worry about this until there's something to worry about. Yeah. Cool, we're on the same page. I agree. Hey, since the last time you were on, Ted, this is your second visit,

Bill King gave me the bad news. You're no longer on 1010. Why do we no longer hear you on News Talk 1010? They, when I say they, I refer to Bell Media, purged some 215, 220 employees across both television and radio in southern Ontario during the course of about two weeks in February. I was one of those.

And you mean February 2020? Yeah, February 2020. You and Barb DiGiulio got it at the same time, right? Around the same. Around the same time, yeah. Same wave. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, they just, just a whole bunch of people just went, they just cut, cut, cut. And now, now they just made some more cuts and let go of Mike Bendixson. Yeah, what, talk to me a bit about that because I know, you know, Bendixson spoke very highly of you and was a big TED champion, if you will. He's, yeah, now he's gone. I'm also hearing Ryan Doyle as well. Like, do you have any thoughts on what the heck is going on at 1010?

Well, I know Mike's gone because I spoke to Mike. He told me that they had let him go. I don't know about Ryan. I think Ryan is just off right now dealing with, I'm not sure what, some issues. Yeah, a personal matter. A personal matter. And I don't know exactly what that is, nor is it my business. But I don't think that he's been let go from the company.

I hope you're right. I hope you're right. But I don't know. I mean, who knows? You know, it's a screw-up place. When I say place, I don't mean the station. I mean place. The industry?

Yes. Yes. Don't you think it don't you think uh i i i i've never worked in your industry but uh from what you see and what you hear and what you glean talking to people in the business i mean it's it's pretty screwed up yeah like what i see from my my vantage point here is people i quite like because i meet them on the show and then we become friendly and i'm thinking of like uh i don't know a a Rod Black or a Michael Landsberg, somebody like that. And what I see is that they're gone after a certain amount of time.

And it's clear that they're gone because they're making money, like adult wage. And this is a cost-cutting maneuver by these large cable companies that we know are making a great deal of money. They get a lot of mine every month. And it just seems like there may be a death by a thousand cuts. It just seems like some great talent and some interesting characters are no longer on our airwaves because they demanded a decent salary.

I think that's part of it. I think you get to a point where the more money you make, the closer you are to the end of the diving board, as it were. Right. And I think that what's happening in radio as well is that television, the conglomerates are saying, well, let's use radio to promote our television stations. That's a big story today because your former colleague, Maureen Holloway, was recently let go as morning show host at CHFI. And this morning they announced Pooja Handa and Gurdeep Aliwalia from, they were previously on like CP24 Breakfast. They're the new-

Were they on CP24? Yeah, they were the CP24 Breakfast show. They are now the morning show at CHFI, but of course they're attractive TV people. Like don't be, of course there will be a television component to this. They'll be on breakfast television and maybe city line. Like they're going to pop up on these Rogers properties. And that seems to be,

uh, the way it's going right. Convergence, I guess. But, uh, I don't know if you heard the, uh,

the Gurdeep Panda news from this morning, but Pooja, sorry, Poojahanda. We combine those names, it becomes Panda. Very cool. But yeah, any thoughts on Maureen Holloway being let go after so many great years? I was surprised. I was surprised. I thought she did a great job.

She's a terrific broadcaster. She's got a great sense of humor and very, very personable. I was quite surprised. I think she handled herself extremely well with a lot of style and grace and i'm not surprised but i was surprised that uh that that that she's gone i was surprised and not surprised because in this industry today nothing surprises me nothing surprises you know it's like the first big surprise in my life was when they traded gretzky and after after that, nothing surprises me.

You know what I'm saying? That's a good point, man. If you can trade Gretzky, you can trade anyone. Just before, I got a question from some FOTMs like Peter Howell and Gare Joyce, but I thought I'd very quickly ask you, why do you think Mike Ben Dixon's gone at 10-10? Like this is a fairly recent,

and I know you're tight with him, and this is a very recent development, but do you have any clue as to any insight into why that happened? I don't have any insight. He didn't tell me other than you can get to a point, I think, where you're never going to be on the same page with management because it just doesn't work that way. The world doesn't work that way.

But you manage to sail along having your little bumps here and there and here and there. But eventually when the bumps become too frequent and too loud, it starts to get to them. That combined with the fact that the more you're there, the longer you're there, the more money they're paying you. Even if they're just paying you cost of living increases, once you start getting up into the six-figure range,

2% starts to mean something. Right. And I think it's a combination of probably head bumping and money. Not necessarily in that order. But Mike had been there quite a long time. It is true. Yeah, a dozen years, I think. Speaking of being there a long time,

Jim Richards is, as my buddy Mark Weisblatt puts it, he's been sentenced to overnight radio. That's how he puts it. But I wonder if there's a, at some point, Jim works his way back to the waking hours at some point over there. I guess only time will tell. I don't know. the waking hours at some point, uh, over there, I guess only time will tell.

I don't know. I don't know where, where he would go, what he would do. I mean, somebody would have to leave for, in order for him to do that. Right. I know he's been filling in with, with, uh, with Jay.

Yeah. Well, Ryan's off. Uh, he has been filling in with Jay on the, uh, the afternoon rush, they call it, but I think Jim's back to overnights now and they got somebody else filling in. But all right, let me ask you, this is an interesting question from Peter Howell.

Of course, Peter Howell, I think he still writes freelance, but he was a longtime Toronto Star writer. He wants me to ask you to recall your days as a legalized weed proponent and how you feel now that you can buy weed legally at shops just about anywhere. Good. About time.

You were ahead of the curve on this one. I don't know if I was ahead of the curve. I mean, I think there were a lot of people who were in favor of legalizing it for a number of different reasons. Gare Joyce wants me to ask you about opening for John Candy. Convocation Hall for John Candy. Convocation Hall. John Candy had left SCTV for a brief period of time and started his own special called John Candy's Big City Company,

which was recorded out of CTV Studios and produced, believe it or not, by the Osmonds. Wow. Tim Kazurinsky was one of the people who were part of that company who went on to perform on Saturday Night Live. So he did this one year and then went back to SCTV, John did, and we got together and put together a show i used to do stand up so i did stand up i did the opening act right 25 minutes or 30 minutes or whatever it was and then john and his troop did oh a good hour or whatever wow yeah it was quite the buzz john was a wonderful man miss him a lot was this an agent court we did it at Convocation Hall, University of Toronto. Oh, I'm sorry, yes. Right, okay, okay.

His television show was shot in Agent Court. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, we lost that man way too early. Way too early, in his early 40s. Yeah, that's unbelievable when you think that.

It is, it is, when you think about it. And everyone's got a great story about John Candy. I mean, what a shame. But that's Gare Joyce, by the way, who is a sports writer

who's also an aspiring stand-up. He's fascinated by all the stand-up talk. There's a Jay Miller who's a good FOTM himself. And Jay wants me to ask you what your most memorable news story was during your 1010 morning show days. Like, what's the most memorable news story you had to talk about? Well, it had to be 9-11. By far.

By far. By a country mile yeah because i was on the air at the time when when the first plane hit because it was just before nine o'clock and dave agar was doing news dave agar broke in with a breaking news saying that uh he said i can almost remember the exact words ted and cnn is reporting an aircraft has flown into Tower One, I think it was Tower One, at the World Trade Center in New York City. I immediately went to CNN and I said, yeah, I can see that, Dave. They're not sure whether it's a commercial flight or whether it's a local radio station traffic. Like a Cessna or something.

Because nobody knew. Nobody knew what it was they didn't have any footage so he said we'll continue to cover that story and then we finished wrapped into went into the news news at noon news at nine I went into the newsroom I sat down I'm watching television monitors and I went oh look somebody's got footage of the plane it's a huge plane flying into the building then I went no that's the that's a second plane. I thought it was footage from the first one and it was the second one. And as soon as I realized it was the second one, it's like my God, my body almost kind of froze. I thought

holy jeez, two planes. This is now an attack. So from that period to the next two months, almost daily we discussed this, interviewed people who had lost family members. There were people who had survived that we interviewed, people who had made it down from like the 70th floor to 60th floor, people who lived within blocks away. We talked to Sandy Levine, who owned then the Carnegie Deli,

and they were serving food to the frontline workers every morning. Wow. So we talked to all kinds of people. And then on the first anniversary, we flew to New York City to do the morning show. We did it outside the Carnegie Deli. And CBS had taken a part of the Verizon building, which was one of the buildings that surrounded the Twin Towers that had been damaged severely but was still standing.

And they had the second floor, and they had all their radio affiliates and television affiliates and dan rather doing shows there in the afternoon and cfrb we're doing our show from there as well so that was something really special well that's a generational story that's at once in a that's a yeah that's yeah so that's easy answer to jay's a once in a... Yeah. That's... Yeah, so that story... Easy answer to Jay's question. Yeah. I distinctly, because I was in an office building, and I distinctly remember hearing about the first plane,

visualizing in my head, I can still see it, the Cessna going off course and flying into a tower. Because I think very recent, prior to that, I had heard about a story similar to that. Maybe into the Empire State Building, but a Cessna had flown into another building in New york by accident and i was visualizing it and then you hear about the second plane and you have that instant notice where you're like oh my god this is a coordinated attack and i still remember when you kind of like set you transition from

oh sesna accident how unfortunate there's gonna be some people that lose lives here too oh my goodness coordinated attack what's what's next unbelievable moment some people that lose lives here too. Oh my goodness. Coordinated attack. What's next? Unbelievable moment in our lives. Ted, talk to me about podcasting. So here you are back on Toronto Mic. You yourself are now a podcaster. This was something that I've been thinking. People have been suggesting that I do this for years.

And I said, well, I didn't know why I would do that because the show that I was doing on Saturday afternoons would have been essentially the same thing. So I said, well, what am I going to do? Cannibalize yourself almost. Well, precisely. Precisely. So I decided not to. But then when I lost my job in February,

I started thinking, okay, well, then I'm going to look toward doing a podcast. Well, February, you know, some bled into April. April bled into COVID. And COVID took over for a while. So I didn't finally get it all together until September. We launched our first episode. Well, congratulations.

What's the name? Ted Wallachian Podcast. And if you're going to direct, because you're now speaking to podcast listeners, so you're fishing where the fish are. And many listeners are going to want to check out Ted Wallachian's podcast. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart.

Just search for your name. Just search Ted Wallachian Podcast, W-O-L-O-S-H-Y-A-N. Apple Podcasts, iHeart, spotify as we say in the business wherever you get your podcast that's right you'll find ted okay welcome to the club uh there's a lot more freedom i'm enjoying it i'm doing it a lot a lot there's a lot more freedom it's and it's not people say are you gonna be able to swear i said well yeah swearing is is a byproduct if somebody swears they swear i mean i'm not i'm not turning the mic on so i can start cursing but the beauty of it is that you now have an

opportunity to interview somebody and you don't have to break for traffic or for commercial or because the show is over even though you're in the middle of a killer interview right with a once in a lifetime guest and you say oh i'm sorry but i, but I'm going to have to let you go. Is there anything worse than that? That's what I've got to say. Yes, your holiness. I'm afraid that we have another guest at the top of the hour.

The queen's waiting in the wings. Yeah, welcome again. People should check out your podcast. And I'm going to do what you just told me. Podcasts don't have to do. I'm going to pause here for a commercial break because I'm going to give you some more gifts. I gave you beer and I gave you pasta. I have a $75 virtual gift card for you at chefdrop.ca.

You, my friend, can go to chefdrop.ca and choose. There's like a great menu of fantastic chefs and restaurants and they have these pre-prepared meal kits they ship directly to your door. You've got 75 bucks to spend there. You're going to get yourself a nice meal. And anyone else listening can get $50 off their first order right now if they use the promo code FOTM20. Sorry, I got to say that again. FOTM50. So use the promo code FOTM50, five zero, and you save $50 on your first order. Do that, but Ted,

you've got the $75 gift card coming your way. I also have for you, there's lots of gifts coming your way. There should be a speaker in that side of the Great Lakes case here. That, my friend, is yours as well. This is a speaker.

That is a wireless speaker branded by Moneris because Moneris has a new podcast called Yes, We Are Open. And Ted, your job is to listen to Yes, We Are Open. I saw that. I saw that. I was going to ask you about that. Tell me about that.

Oh, I'd love to. So there's a tremendous FOTM. Anyone who's been to a TMLX in the early days heard this gentleman sing with his band, actually. But FOTM El Gregogo i don't think he's singing on this podcast yes we are open but he travels the country he interviews small business owners and he tells their story their origin story their struggles their future outlook and if you're a small business owner or an entrepreneur like myself you'll love this podcast you'll find it

helpful and motivational go to yes we are open podcast.com'll find it helpful and motivational. Go to yesweareopenpodcast.com to subscribe. And how has that helped you? It helps me by sharing the news with the listenership. So more people check out that podcast. And I get to give every guest like yourself a wireless speaker. So you've got to make it worth your while to make the trek here, Ted. More, because I've got a sticker for you too. This is from stickeru.com.

Let's recap here. You've got money at chefdrop.ca. You've got fresh craft beer. You've got a lasagna from Palma Pasta. Let's put it this way, Mike. I have done all my Christmas shopping. That's so true. You're taken care of. So just a couple more shout outs here. I just want

to say thank you to Ridley Funeral Home for their support. Oh, good. They didn't give me anything, did they? You had them all lined up when you heard that I had COVID. I was going to say that was my next sentence after, you know, when I do finally lose it. And hopefully it won't be you, Ted, because you got to keep going here, buddy. But when I do finally lose a guest, Ridley Funeral Home, they're ready to go.

So people should go to RidleyFuneralHome.com to learn how you can pay tribute without paying a fortune. And while you're checking out new podcasts, there's a podcast called the CEO Edge Podcast from McKay CEO Forums. It's fireside chats with inspiring CEOs and thought leaders.

And Nancy McKay does a great job on that podcast. I urge you to listen. I post a new episode on torontomic.com every week. Now, Ted, you're here to kick out the jams. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever heard a jam kicking before in this program, but I'm going to start playing your song. At some point, I'll bring it down,

and we're going to hear you tell us why you chose this song. So, the big question for you. Ted, are you ready to kick out the jams? I am. My soul has been

in the recession The crucial time I have My soul Thank you for watching! Now you can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want And if you try sometime, you'll find You need what you need You'll find You'll hear us sing I saw her today at the reception A glass of wine in her hand

I knew she was gonna meet her connection At her feet was a footloose man You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want You can't always get what you want. You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you might find you get what you need. Talk to me, Ted. That song has so many different levels to it,

so much texturing that's done in there. First of all, it's a good message. You can't always get what you want, and conversely, you can't always want what you get. It's a great song. The lyrics are great. The music's great. I love horns.

And there's even horns in there. I'm just not sure if it's a French horn or if it's trombone. It could be a combination of both. Honestly, you got us off to a roaring start here because one of the greatest jams

in the history of rock and roll, I'm telling you. I would say epic. I don't use the word epic often, but this is an epic jam. So if I were to say Rolling Stones or Beatles, what would be your answer to that question? Ah boy, I don't know. Probably Beatles, but

you could put up a Stones song to beat up a Beatles song. A Beatles song that's better than a Stones song. It's tough. that's better than a stone song. It's tough. It's tough. It's like, you know, do you like your son or do you like your daughter better? Depends on the day.

Depends on the day. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Or in my daughter's case, when she went through that teenage thing, when she'd come downstairs and I didn't know which one. It's like I had five daughters. Which one's coming down now? Is it the one that's going to be quiet? The one that isn't going to stop talking? The one

that's going to totally ignore us? The one that's just going to be a real B? Which one? You know, never a dull moment with the kids. No. Never a dull moment. Bachelor of them. So, how old are your kids now? My kids are 33 and 36. Yes are 33 and 36.

Yes. 33, 36 and a two-year-old granddaughter. Oh, good for you. Congrats. Amazing. Two-year-old granddaughter. Can't get vaccinated yet. She can't, no.

Won't be long. No. I know they're doing these clinical trials. I have a client I was talking to who's one year old grandchild well doesn't know right now whether it was a placebo or the actual vaccination but it's part of the clinical trial for the under five year old sex so it's happening

sure well then it should well they give them vaccines from birth mumps move rubella, measles lots yeah for sure lots of shots from birth. Mumps, rubella, measles, lots, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

For sure, lots of shots. Which I always find it funny when people say, well, the government can't force you to have vaccines. Yeah? Try sending your kids to school without a vaccination.

I got a, like, I don't know what you'd call it, almost like a cease and desist of some nature, but from my daughter's high school because we did miss one. Like, we're pretty on top of this,

but I missed one, I guess. And we had to rectify that immediately or she wasn't allowed in school. Like, you know, you've got to get your immunizations up to date to go to these public schools anyways. Okay, so I'm hearing this great jam, Can't Always Get What You Want,

by the Rolling Stones, and I'm thinking about right now, Get Back, the new Beatles documentary. Have you had a chance to check it out yet? You know, I started watching it with a friend the other night. You got into about 40 minutes of it. Some of it I found really fascinating. And then it got a little draggy for me. It is long.

It's like you're sitting there and I'm watching a band rehearse. And that can only be so exciting for so long. You know what I'm saying? Things aren't happening fast enough. It's one of those, I like the deep dives, but you're right, there's these lulls, and then all of a sudden, they'll put on the screen something

to the effect of, spoiler alert, but they'll put on the screen something like, oh, they needed more songs for this concert, and Paul starts strumming on the guitar, and then all of a sudden, you can hear this song start evolving, this song that would become Get Back, and it just sort of comes out of that.

I also really like that moment, and I've only seen the first episode so far, but where Paul's on the piano, he's playing Let It Be, and they don't have a lot of words to this yet, but the Beatles are listening to this song clearly for the first time, and then they're starting to collaborate.

And it's amazing that's on, not only is that recorded, but we haven't seen it until now. It's unbelievable to me. We'll let Mick take us home and we'll go right into your second jam here. shout out to bill king yeah exactly Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Thank you. okay okay that's uh i saw that coming in the waveform that i'm gonna have to go to youtube to get some more of this jam here because for some reason I got 49 seconds and I don't think that's the song in its entirety.

No, but it's ironically, it's called 1849. I could see it coming. It was sort of like you're kind of watching this. It's like, I'm going to see an accident here. And it's like, I can't stop this accident. Okay, so bear with me here. That's unfortunate, but we're going to fix this very quickly here. And I think I have a good idea why you're picking this

lighthouse jam but I'm gonna pop it on YouTube here okay Thank you. ¶¶ Wagons roll out under darkened skies The sun refused to shine Four hundred people full of hopes and dreams In 1849 They waved goodbye Women dried their tears Young men hid their fears They headed west

Full of confidence That their fortunes would appear They packed a trunk full of china A Bible or two The And a half-boiled sister of A. No one thought their grief of gold would change a life someday. They headed west in 1849. Sixty-one wagons, two miles long in a line They headed west in 1849. 1849. 1849. Tell us why you chose this lighthouse jam.

A number of reasons. Again, first of all, it's based on a true story. I mean, there were a great gold rush that took place in 1849. It's the story of people looking for a better life. You can look at it from two different perspectives. Either they're just eager to find a better life, or they're greedy, and their greed for gold, as the line in the song says, no one thought their greed for gold would change their lives that way.

Lyrically, if you listen, when you describe everything that they packed, they packed a box full of china, a bottle or two, a shotgun for Leroy, a pistol for Lou, a pretty dress for Sarah, and a hat for Sister Faye. Later on, after things go bad, a box full of China Cracks. The pistol, he used a pistol on Lou, and the pretty dress they bought for Sarah, they used to bury Faye. It's like an old Henry story there.

It's interesting because I had Skip Prokop, and we were talking about this. He was on the show, along with Paul Hofford, the late Skip Prokop, and Paul Hofford, two of the founders of Lighthouse. And I said, you know, this could have been turned into a brilliant video, if not a film. He said, we actually talked to a number of people about turning it into a film.

We missed out. I was going to ask you, because you were at CFNY. Yep. And did you cross paths with Skip Procopper? Yeah. At CFNY. Yeah. Yeah.

That's where I first got to know him. Amazing. Because when I saw Lighthouse on your list, my mind immediately went to Skip and said, oh, I bet you he knew Skip from CFNY. I liked Lighthouse before I knew. You see, I'm partial to horn bands, as you can probably tell.

Where's the Chicago on your list here? I think there's Chicago is in there somewhere. I'm not sure. Spoiler alert. Because I played the trumpet when I was in high school. Okay. Alright. Alright, yeah. Now that you've mentioned that link, I do see it showing up on your list here.

But I will say this is a Lighthouse song that's a little more obscure. We keep hearing the same Lighthouse songs on our... Sunny days. For sure. One Fine Morning? Yeah. You hear a lot of One Fine Morning and Sunny Days, and you don't hear a lot of 1849.

So I'm glad you kicked this out for us. And I apologize. I could see that this was a 40, whatever it was, 49 seconds, and I said, oh, that's not correct here, but YouTube to the rescue here. Are you ready for your third jam?

I am ready. Alright, let's kick it out. This is cruising music. Sun shining. Top down. And another Canadian content. You'll have to tell me about this doctor music. I'm unfamiliar.

We'll come back to it. Cannons fly up against the sky Moon up high Banners right against the crossy line Hear a cry Seeds of life reflected in the eye Morgenthau Picture me a pencil in the sky Hey, this is important to me.

Tell me. I told you. I know, I love it, I love it. Dr. Music is, the late Doug Riley is Dr. Music. Piano player, brilliant musician, and you're listening to probably the best backup musicians in the city of Toronto during that period of time, and that would have been, I'm thinking, my mid-70s. Who are these background singers?

Do you know? I don't know who they are, but I'll know. I'll bet you dollars. Laurie Bower Singers? What am I you know? I don't know who they are, but I'll know. I'll bet you dollars. Laurie Bower Singers? What am I hearing here? I don't know. I don't know exactly who it is, but I'll bet you dollars to donut

they are the best backup singers and backup musicians, studio musicians that were available at the time. Sounds amazing. Because it sounds familiar to me. Like there was a song about Yonge Street maybe

or the Eden Center or something that was I think the Laurie Bower singers were involved. I'm trying to link these like retro Ontario nuggets together. But very, very good. So this is when you're driving in your car and it's a sunny day, you throw on some doctor music. Sun Goes Down. So Sun Goes By is the name of this jam.

Yeah. Sun Goes By is the name of this jam. Yeah. Nice percussion. Very nice. Can't they drive Looking at the writing in the sky 1972 is when this jam comes out here. I'm just learning on the fly here, but... Time will only know

Time will only know Not that mean it Not that mean it Not that mean it So they did it at Toronto Sound Recording in 70... Let me see here. Oh, we don't get a name drop of who we got here, but it's well-crafted. Oh, I see. So here's a fun connection To another FOTM Is that

Doctor Music Worked as the music director On Keith Hampshire's TV show Music Machine Shout out to Keith Hampshire You've heard him on

Yeah Yeah Are you kidding me I have Okay Hampshire. You've had him on, right? Yeah. Yeah. Are you kidding me? I have. Okay. So... Okay, Blue Jays. That was gifted to me. That's the original 45 gifted to me by

Ken Daniels, who had held on to that thing since it was released. And Keith Hampshire sings on that. Yeah. Wow. So does Tony Cosman and Glory Bauer. Yeah, see? It's all connected.

Everything's connected. Oh, my goodness. You ready for your fourth jam? Lay it on me. Ah. So this song is like 1977. 1977. Tell us why you chose this fantastic song. I think it's 79, not 77.

But first of all, I love Stevie Wonder. When this song was released, right at the time this song was released, my brother, he and his wife, Kenya, gave birth to their first child, Stephanie, a little girl. And I was doing the mornings at Q107 at the time, and I played this song and I dedicated it to her on the day that she was born. Nice. Nice.

And then years later, I see Stevie Wonder performing this, and one of the background singers is Aisha, the girl he's singing about in this song. So he's singing this song and she's singing background on a song that is being sung about her being born. And then, of course, when my granddaughter was born two years ago, I heard the song on the radio shortly thereafter and was almost in tears. So it's got a lot of.

I love it. And I love that story. And I love how music can do that to you man like music will take you to a specific moment in your life like nothing else it's a time machine yeah music and food will do that too right smells will do that food will do it but nothing does it quite like music no no it's funny uh fred patter from Humble and Fred, I believe he kicked this song out as well because it reminded him of the birth of his daughter. So I think this is a big jam for us fathers of daughters.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But when I watched Stevie perform, and Aisha is a background singer, I thought, that is the coolest thing. Love it. Have you ever seen Stevie Wonder live? No, I have not seen Stevie Wonder live. It's not too late.

No, it's not. I mean, what an inspiration when you think about it. The man's blind, plays all these instruments, writes this music, performs it. Just, you know, who's got the handicap? Right. What I love about Stevie Wonder's career is that he's literally like a child star. Like what, Fingertips Part 2 or whatever is a massive hit. He's like, I don't know, 14 or 15 or something

when that breaks or whatever. And then, you know, artists that kind of have that, I'm thinking now The Osmonds producing that breaks or whatever. And then, you know, artists that kind of have that, I'm thinking now, the Osmonds producing that John Candy show. But when you have that success at that age, that does not always translate into success as an adult musician. But Stevie Dominick, the 70s, for example, album after album, just dominating the charts and the award shows and everything.

Like, what an artist. I know. He's amazing. Unbelievable. And speaking of great artists, I'm glad you're kicking up this guy because I want to talk to you about him. Let's get to some CanCon. Back to some CanCon.

Black day in July Motor city madness Has touched the countryside And through the smoke and cinders Thank you. Black Day in July And the soul of Motor City Is spared across the land As the book of law and order Is taken in the hands Of the sons of the fathers Who were carried to this land

Black Day in July Black Day in July In the streets of Motor City Black Day in July. Black Day in July. In the streets of Motor City, there's a deathly silent sound. And the body of a dead youth lies stretched upon the ground. Upon the filthy pavements, no reason can be found. Black Day in July. Black Day in July. Gordy's relentless.

There's actually no fade time, so I'll bring it down to chat about it, but why Black Day in July by the great Gordon Lightfoot? Well, because Black Day in July, first of all, when I was in high school, I wrote an essay based on the song because I found it to be fascinating. It was one period in time,

but think about this. In the last couple years, how many black days in July have we seen? Right. It seems like almost every time you turn around, this is happening. It's like it didn't get any better. That's 1968 they're talking about there.

It's 2021, and it's worse. And you ask yourself, what the hell's going on? Why are we not making this better? Why is there still this racial disparity? And I also found it fascinating interviewing Gordon Lightfoot years later. And he told me that he was hesitant to play this song in concert because he felt it was too judgmental.

And yet when you think about it, there's one line in the song. He says, you sip your morning coffee and you drink your morning tea and you wonder just in passing, is it him or is it me? So he's not really being judgmental. Interesting. I'm sure it's on his set list now. I mean, this is an old song. It's an old song, but it speaks of today.

Sadly. Sadly. Sadly. Well said, Ted. And as an artist, Gordy does a great job of kind of bringing stories and history to you via song. Like, how many kids did an essay on The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, for example? Yeah, for sure. The big news this past week was, of course, they reopened Massey Hall. Yeah.

A lot of renovations there. There's a recent episode of Toronto Mic'd about the Massey Hall, just as a historical place of music in the city. But I had Dave Hodge on the other day, and he desperately wanted to go but couldn't for a variety of reasons. And I take it, did you score a ticket? Did you manage to get to? No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Wanted to, but it didn't happen.

Didn't happen. I mean, a lot of us wanted to. It just didn't happen. But I think he did three shows, I think. Yeah. Gordon Lightfoot, long may he run, as Neil Young would say. 83 years, had some setbacks with his wrist, etc. But there he was, rocking the hall last week.

Got a key to the city from John Tory. Saw that, yeah. You and him are an exclusive club. Do you know what club you're in? Who? Probably several clubs. But you guys, reports of your demise were greatly exaggerated. That's right, yeah, that's right. He was reported dead too,

wasn't he? And that definitely was reported on the radio. I can't remember exactly where, but definitely was reported that Gordon Lief had passed away. Did you hear that I had died? Did somebody tell you that? I think maybe I conflated the stories of the Warmington story. I think I heard you on Humble and Fred, and I thought maybe

it had been reported, but obviously it was just Warmington story. I think I heard you on Humble and Fred, and I thought maybe it had been reported, but obviously it was just Warmington hearing that you were not doing very well and just confirming that you were alive. And then Ben Dixon, I think he reported you were alive. Like that was the report on 1010. Yeah, he knew because my brother had been in touch with him. FYI, Ted is very much alive. And I'm glad you're here, buddy.

I'm thoroughly enjoying this. I am too, and I thank you for inviting me back. here, buddy. I'm thoroughly enjoying this. I am too. And I thank you for inviting me back. Oh, you're kidding me? Kicking out the jams? What a great day. In fact, let's get to the... Where are we at now?

Let's get to the sixth jam. When are you gonna come down? When are you gonna come down? When are you going to land? Should I stay on the farm? Should I listen to my own mind? Now you can't hold me forever I didn't sign up for you I'm not a present for your friends to open

This boy's too young to be singing The blues So goodbye yellow big road Where the dogs all society howl You can't black me in your penthouse I'm going back to my plow Back to howling the louse Hunting the horn in my tow

While I'm on the other side of my future life Beyond the other big road Speaking of juggernauts in the 1970s, Elton. This is Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. Why this jam, Ted? I like Elton John to begin with. Man, of all the Elton John,

it was either this song or your song. I don't mean your song. Not your song, but your song. The Trotter Mike James song. Yeah, your song. The song, your song. Yeah, your song. The song, your song. I like Elton John.

There's no real heavy significance with this song, although I am a huge Wizard of Oz fan. That and The Godfather are my favorite movies. In fact, I always wanted to do The Godfather of Oz. Somehow it worked the two of them in. Yeah, they're both great movies. In fact, I always wanted to do The Godfather of Oz. Somehow it worked the two of them in. Virtuous, too. Yeah, they're both great movies. Yeah. And I just like the song. The monkey scared me as a kid.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm still getting over it, I think. No, no, no. I know. The flying monkey scared the hell out of me, too. What I liked, I mean, obviously, what I liked is I love that whole black and white color, black and white kind of deal they do on that Wizard of Oz. But back to Godfather for a moment. One of my favorite movies of all time. But I like one and two equally as much.

Like I can do one and two over and over again. Me too. Sometimes I'll watch two and I'll say, no, this is better than one. And then three months later, I'll see one and go, no, this is better than two. Three has never beaten one or two. So here, let me ask you this. How many times have you seen Godfather 3?

If you ask my son, he'll tell you, every day. Three? No, I don't. I've seen, I don't know. I can pretty much lip sync. Oh no, but the third. Oh, Godfather 3?

I've only seen Godfather 3 twice. Okay, because I've only seen it once. I saw it once. And the second time it was a little better. Okay. But it still isn't one or two. Oh, God, no. No.

Did you know Godfather 3 was nominated for Best Picture at the Academy Awards? No, I didn't know that. See, that's a mind blow because it's okay, but it's not that. I feel like it was living off, it's the legacy of those first two. And Sofia Coppola was terrible, but now she's turned out to be a great director. Yes, she is.

That is true. She's a great director. While we're talking about Coppola real quickly here is that I like very much, I like Apocalypse Now, but the documentary Heart of Darkness, I think they called it, but the documentary about the filming of Apocalypse Now is better like Apocalypse Now, but the documentary Heart of Darkness, I think they called it, but the documentary

about the filming of Apocalypse Now is better than Apocalypse Now. Isn't that weird? That documentary is unbelievable and I just want to

urge everybody to find it and watch it because it's unbelievable. Okay, speaking of big, I'm looking at your jams here. A lot of big 70s artists here. Here's another one. Listen to the lyrics in this and try to figure out how we wrote them. You know, cocaine's a hell of a drug.

Yeah, maybe. Now, it is a 70s artist, but of course, this is an 80s jam. Actually, let's hear a bit more of Paul, and then we'll come back to you, Ted. me you can call me out a man walks down the street he says why am i short of attention gotta remind me is this is it dan ackroyd in this video he's in this video do you remember that i can't remember okay but tell me why you chose this song i just love the lyrics i think he's a brilliant lyricist i don't don't understand half of what's in what you're saying half the time. The twist of phrase and it's just... Incidents and accidents. If you just listen, you think, wow.

Yeah, this was a big jam. It was everywhere, too. And it's got a great beat to it. And the horns are there. Yes. Is this the Graceland album? I think it is, too. And it's got a great beat to it. And the horns are there. Yes. Is this the Graceland album? I think it is, yeah. Right.

Wow. We had all these South African musicians, none of which would be allowed to come perform in Toronto right now. That is true. I heard there's like a... I don't know. I can't remember what the sport was now. I think it was rugby or is there some... Oh, you know what? It was field hockey. There's like a Canadian field

hockey team in a tournament in South Africa that cannot get home right now. They're just stuck there right now. But yeah. Scary time. I'm going to remind myself who I can visualize in that video.

You know what? It might have been Chevy Chase now that I'm thinking. You know what? I think you're right. Chevy Chase. Okay, yeah, there he is. I can see it now.

Okay, so. Holds no currency. Okay, yeah. So Lorne Michaels came up with the idea for this video. And Chevy Chase is there with Paul Simon as, yeah. Angels in the Architecture, Spinning in Infinity. Who writes that? One of the biggest hits of Paul Simon's career, believe it or not.

Big, big jam. Right, Lady Smith Black Mambazo. I always misbutcher that name, but that's right. There are a lot of the African artists in this. Cool. Cool. So lyrically fascinating. Great beat. Great harmonies.

Little riffs like this. Thank you. I like strings too Your jams are your jams My mama told me She said son Please be well There's this thing called love, and it's everywhere. She told me, it can break your heart and put you in misery. Since I met this little woman I feel it's happened to me And I'm telling you

It's too late to turn back now I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love It's too late to turn back now I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love Ted, it's your eighth jam, so it really is too late to turn back now.

Tell us why you chose this jam. Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose. It's a beautiful song, and it's one of those, if you think back, when you were young, when you were first starting to fall in love, you met a girl, and then you realize it's too late to turn back now.

It's like she's got you, and your heart's gone. Hook, client, and singer. Can't turn back. That can be a dangerous feeling, though. It can go one of two ways. And it's beautifully orchestrated, and the harmonies are nice.

And I like my soulful music. You know, it's funny. This is a jam I know quite well. I think I know almost every word in this song. I saw you sing it alone. I don't think I knew the artist's name until you put it on your list. Well, because I think that you're listening to a medley of Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose's greatest hit. I don't know that they did any more music. I don't know that they did any more music.

I don't know if they had any more hits. Maybe this is it. What a great name for a group. Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose. Here we go. But I'd hate to think that I'm in love alone And nothing that I can do Oh, it's too late to turn back now I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love

It's too late, baby I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love It's too late to turn back now I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love It's too late to turn back now I believe, I believe, I believe I'm falling in love It's too late to turn back now This is another one hit wonder. Very subtle horn though.

Ring on the horns. You got it. Now do you know who this is? only because you sent me your list i didn't know who it was before that no what's the name of this artist malo your song is called suavecito it's carlos santana's cousin Oh, cool. I'm never better No like you in my life I'm never No, no, no I'm never better No like you in my life

Now you can see why I was in favor of legalizing marijuana. Yes, sir. And it's called Suavecito? I have no idea what that means. Shout out to Cito Gaston, maybe. Suavecito. Okay, so I need to know, because I'm not even familiar with this jam, but I'm digging it in the headphones here.

When did you discover this song, and what made you fall in love with it? I just loved the tune itself. It's another one of those nice kind of summer, cruising, mellow. It's a relaxing tune. It's all positive, right? mellow. It's a relaxing tune. It's all positive, right?

Do you ever fantasize about wintering and warmer climates? Yes. Hourly, starting about now. Yes, starting yesterday when we all got that jolt to the system. It's like, oh yeah,

it snows in this city. But that's something you could do I know there's communities in Mexico for example where like Canadians collect to avoid our winters is that something you would do? I don't know if I'd want to go away for the entire period of time

the entire winter I have some friends who do that what was that movement we had recently to make Costa Rica another province? Is that the deal? Well, you trinted that in Tobago, I think. No, no, it wasn't trinted that in Tobago. Was it Costa Rica or no? No, originally it was Turks and Caicos.

Okay. That was years and years ago, and that didn't come through. No. No, but it's nice to think about it too and yeah it's a cool jam and you're saying this is the cousin of Carlos Santana wow

there's a guy who reinvented that there's a guy you know you'll see him when you watch a Woodstock documentary there he is and you know your Oyo Como Va and all these things and then in the 90's completely kind of see him when you watch a Woodstock documentary. There he is. And you know your Oyo Como Va and all these things. And then in the 90s completely kind of reinvents himself. He has these monster hits with

contemporary artists. That's quite the career change up there for Carlos Santana. I like seeing people remaining relevant into their latter years. Like you. Yeah.

Subscribe to the Ted Wallachian podcast right now. Do it up. And we did spoil this final jam, but I'm glad it's on your list here. We'll let Malo, is that how you say it? Malo. Malo. Malo could knock on my door right now delivering a package. I wouldn't know it was Malo? Malo. Malo. Malo could knock on my door right now delivering a package. I wouldn't know it was Malo.

No. I think that's the name of the band, actually. Okay. I've got lots to learn here. Suavecito from Malo. Okay, before we go into this final jam, Ted, I just want to thank you for coming by and kicking out the

jams with me. Hey, I had a it was great to catch up off the top because you were in the hospital with COVID. And that's a frightening thought. But it looks like you came through okay. I think that bodes well for others. I did. Thank you. Thank you. Maybe better than ever.

Maybe whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Yeah, I think so. I think I'm probably paying better attention to my health now. It was like a warning shot for you? Like a shot across the bow? Well, probably. Well, that's something good that can come

out of a bad situation. Yeah, exactly. Your perspective on the world, though, has any of that changed like you're like sometimes people have these uh illnesses and then they're like any day could be your last day i'm not i'm gonna live every day like it's my final uh day on this planet you know what happened what's really interesting mike when i came out i i um i was so anxious to get this podcast going and then i got about a number of people involved in it but I was, I found myself

incredibly impatient. I was like, come on, come on, do it, do it, do it because I felt that I had wasted like two months of my month,

two months of my life doing nothing but sleeping and emptying myself. You had some living to do. You had to catch up on living life. Yeah, yeah.

But by the same token, I think i'm in this this sounds ironic because i mean as impatient as i as i was i think i've become more of a patient person interesting i think i'm a little mellower that might be the weed though, Ted. Chilling you out there. You would know. Speaking of weed. Yeah, I didn't bring any. How is my buddy, Bill King?

Have you kept in touch with him? Yes, yes, yes. Bill's going to be on my podcast in the next three weeks or so. There's a cool cat. Yeah. He's just written his third book. He's a good man. Whenever I have on, let's say, Leo Roudens comes over, I get these

fantastic tweets from Bill King. He's a big basketball fanatic. Well, we're glad Bill is here. Not here on Earth, because he's a healthy guy, but that he's one of those draft dodgers who came up and stuck around, right? That's how we get a Bill King.

So, shout out to the Vietnam War. Okay. Thanks, Nam. Again, sometimes good things come out of bad situations. People, of course, want to thank Nixon for that war, whereas the war began with Kennedy.

That's one of those, yes, lost to history. That's why we need that reminder from those who remember. We're closing out with a great one here. We know you lost to history. That's why we need that reminder from those who remember. And we're closing out with a great one here. We know you like the horns. Let's kick out this final jam. Waiting for the break of day Searching for something to say Flashing lights against the sky Giving up at close by

I'm Giving up, I close my eyes City, cross, lake, on the floor 25 or 6 to 4 Talk to me, Ted. 25 or 6 to 4. For years and years and years, everybody tried to figure out, what does that mean, 25 or 6 to 4? We started doing mathematical little assignments. So 25 or 6 to 4, like 6, the ratio, 2, 4, 25 plus 6, 6 times 24, 6 times 4 times 20.

And as it turns out to me, it's the time of the day. It's either 25 or 26 to 4. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Okay, now. It's either 25 before 4 or 26 before 4. My mind, like a light went on there

and I thought all that wasted time as a youth trying to figure out mathematical progressions for this song and it's all

about the telling of time but I love Chicago Chicago and I had this conversation with

David Clayton Thomas when I interviewed him yeah because he was, of course, with Blood, Sweat & Tears. The three big horn bands

were Lighthouse, Blood, Sweat & Tears, and Chicago. Right. And I tried to figure out, okay, who came first, who came second, who came third.

Blood, Sweat & Tears was first, Lighthouse was second, Chicago was third. You know, Blood, Sweat & Tears also played Woodstock, but you don't see them in that video. They don't see them in the doc, but they're there. Anyway, I think, Sweat and Tears also played Woodstock. But you don't see them in that video. They don't see them in the doc, but they're there.

Anyway, I think there were some problems with the audio maybe, but they're there. And Lighthouse is not there. And I feel like Lighthouse should have been there. I don't know why they weren't there, but I digress. Yeah, you love your... This is Chicago, so I'm thinking I would have heard maybe some

Steely Dan on your list. I could have put... I love Steely Dan. Easily put Steely thinking I would have heard maybe some Steely Dan on your list. I could have played. I love Steely Dan. Could have easily put Steely. I could have put another 20 songs together. Well, you know what? At some point, we could do a sequel. I'd love to.

I'd love to. Now, I neglected to pop over. We have a pirate stream, live.torontomic.com, where we actually live stream this for the keeners, the eager beavers. And I didn't pop over till right now, but there's a question for you lingering. I'll ask it now before this jam ends. But Andrew wants me to ask you,

he says, can you ask Ted about CFRB when he arrived and how he helped a lot of newcomers get their starts in radio? Did you help newcomers get their start in radio? Did you help newcomers get their start in radio? I guess. There were a lot of people who have approached me over the years that I brought into the studio, spent some time hanging around,

sort of picking up little pieces here and there. So, yeah, I have as much as I can. If people reach out, I'm more than happy. Because you're a decent human being. Well, you know what? People did it for me as well. And then I asked somebody, and I said, how can I ever pay you back? It was Terry Steele.

And he said, just do the same thing if anybody ever asks you. Pay it forward. And thank you, Moose Grumpy, for correcting me when I originally stated it was Dan Ackroyd in the video. And, oh, you know what? this might be an issue on my end so I'm going to kill our Chicago there that was an ugly sound we won't fix it in post because it happened but my

apologies again there seems to be some audio troubles here but Moose Grumpy did correct me that it's Chevy Chase in the video and Al Grego is watching live and he points out he watched the Beatles doc and he loved every second of it but he says part three dragged a little bit so there's something for me to look forward

to something for me to look forward to Ted you're going to come back at some point and do this and then here's my promise to you I'll make sure I'll play my songs before you get here and make sure they don't end with disaster like a couple of them did that's a terrible host here's my promise to you. I'll make sure I'll play my songs before you get here and make sure they don't end with disaster

like a couple of them did. That's a terrible host. I apologize. Could have been worse, right? It was great. I enjoyed it. Conversation was great and we'll do this again and again for the umpteenth time. You survived COVID. You look great and I'm just glad you're

anywhere at this point. Me too. Me too and I'm really glad to be here. I'm glad you're here. I'm just I'm just glad you're anywhere at this point me too me too and I'm really glad to be here I'm glad you're here I'm glad you're anywhere I appreciate it thank you for the

gifts enjoy responsibly Ted Wallachian and that brings us to the end of our 956th show now you can follow me on Twitter

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