Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - The History of CFNY Festivals / Edgefests: Toronto Mike'd #868

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Mike chats with Captain Phil Evans and Brother Bill about the origin of the CFNY Canada Day Festival, the birth of Edgefest, and memorable moments through the years with some stellar musical highlights in the mix.

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And joining me this week is Captain Phil Evans to dive deep into the history of the CFNY festivals of yesteryear. Welcome, Phil. it's really exciting to be here and and um just looking at your wall i'm now seeing all the things i've heard on your podcast so it's very exciting it's like being on the colbert set or jimmy fallon or something i'm honored and it is a true pleasure now you have been on an episode of toronto mic before yeah and uh it was um i think the martin streak memorial episode is that right yeah it was the i think one year after the passing of Martin Streak, you were kind enough to do a phone call with me and add to that because Marty was the best man at your wedding. Am I getting my details correct?

No, you're absolutely right. He was, when I started at CFNY, he was the first one basically to welcome me. He put me up in his mom's living room. He let me sleep in his bed. They were in different places all the time. But he was, he was just a lovely guy. And actually a funny story. So the day I asked him to be my best man, we'd been at a party at one of our sales guys

houses in, I think it was in the annex downtown. And it was like, he had kegs and he was a sales guy. So it was like pretty top end, lots of beer, lots of other stuff. So I had a lot of beers and I was showing girls on the front porch how I could yoga myself into a knot. And one of the sales guys, ex-football friends from WLU, comes running out of the front door catching a pass and he rolls me down the steps still in a ball because I had my legs locked into a yoga pose. Anyways, that night, and I guess I was sufficiently lubricated at the end of that party to ask Marty to be my best man. And that's amazing. He said, yes, the rest. And if you, you know, people can go back and listen to that retrospective. But that's when I first got to

speak to you. But let's let the listenership know who the heck you are, because unlike the special guest we're going to have in a few minutes when he joins the Zoom call. People might not be familiar with the moniker Captain Phil Evans. So I guess first I want to know who the heck you are. And then I want to know how you got the nickname Captain Phil. Fair enough. I was in the promotion department at CFNY 102.1, the Edge, Edge 102, always the same chair, different names of the places, right? From 1986 to 2002.

Wow. So I was there from Spirit of Radio era through the mistake of 88, which is what the insiders call the top 40 alternative hybrid, to the Edge days, all iterations of the edge. And I left in October of 2002 to come to Vancouver, where I am now. All right, I'm going to test you. Just before we proceed, though, I need to make sure you're the right guy or gal for this gig here today as we kind of discuss the history. gal for this gig here today as we kind of discuss the history can you name all the uh the cfny names that it's been called on the air since you got there to when you left like could you do that

in order because you know robbie j robbie j and i have these discussions when did it become c 102.1 the edge or edge 102 uh modern rock There were so many different incarnations. Why don't you walk us through that off the top of your head to prove you know your shit, and then I'll let our secret, not so secret, special guest in because he has arrived. Oh, good.

All right. Here's what I can remember. When I started there in 86, it was CFNY 102.1 The Spirit of radio okay then it was cfny fm 102 modern rock that was with a big cfny and then modern rock underneath in smaller letters yes um within that period shortly thereafter it went to fm 102 Modern Rock with a very big, ballsy imaging guy like you'd hear on a Top 40 station. And that was the Top 40 era. Right.

There were a number of iterations of FM 102 Modern Rock without the call letters. And then it kind of jumps for me to CFNY 102.1, the leading edge, which leads off the series of edge monikers. Now, because I often... So, right, what was it called when you left? Was it 102.1, the edge? It had just gone back to that in 2002 after being edge 102 for a number of years.

Here's an interesting so so interesting it's a technical story but um in that period of being the edge we kept uh we changed our our name and position or so much that every time we did it we had to register a new web domain so i i finally went to the program director and said, listen, you're just going to keep moving the words around a bit. Just grab edge.ca and we'll go from there. Because otherwise, like we'd registered 102.1, the edge, 102, the edge, edge 102, spirit of rate, we'd get them all. Right. All right. Now I've been fully convinced you're the right man for this job. But joining us as well is a guy, I haven't talked to this guy in several hours. Yeah. At least eight.

Yeah. So Brother Bill is joining us. Hello, brother. Hi, I'm just here to keep my good friend Phil. I'm the lasso. Mike, you're the horse and the cowboy, and I'm the lasso just to make sure we keep Phil, you know, on the ground. I know he likes talking about this stuff, so I'm kidding, of course.

He is the guy to talk to about Canada Day and Edge Fest and the station and positioning and anything else you want to know, marketing, promotions. I'm just here for the ride to kind of, you know, throw in the things that almost got me arrested. Well, I've been tipped off by Phil that there's a few stories you've got for us, brother. But first, I need to find out, how did Phil Evans become Captain Phil? So I went to Ryerson for radio and television arts.

And in the summers when I was at Ryerson, I drove tour boats in the harbor, the long Amsterdam tour boats, because when I was a kid, I taught sailing in between high school grades, right? And after driving the tour boats, I also got a gig driving the showboat on Ontario Place, which was the one that carried the bands around the canals. Right. And then at the end of the last summer I was there, I'm standing with one of the other guys and said, geez, I wish I could get a job where I could go on the radio and drive boats. Maybe I should sign up for like an ocean liner and be a DJ or something.

And then not more than six or seven months later, I think it would be the spring of 86, Not more than six or seven months later, I think it would be the spring of 86, I got a call from an old friend at Ontario Place who said that Darren Waslick, the promotion director at CFNY, was looking for a guy who could go on the radio and drive boats. And we had like one phone call and he hired me and here I am 30 odd years later. If ever there was like a job custom made for you, right? Yeah. That's wild. Okay, now, please remind me of what year the second police picnic

took place. Oh, golly. I'm putting you on the spot here. I know this is before your time. Not my specialty, but 81? Or it was at the C&E. So the first one was out in Oakville. And then the second one was at the C&E.

Those were Gary's shows, weren't they? So the first one was 79, I think, wasn't it? Okay. Okay. So is it fair to say that these festivals we're going to talk about, and you'll give me the proper names, et cetera, as we walk through the history, they're the first major alternative festival that Southern Ontario had since the second police picnic that the Garys put on.

Yeah, and there's Heat Wave in there somewhere, too, which may be 1980 or 81. The dates I'm not absolutely sure of. Um, I, the, the dates are, I'm not absolutely sure of, but, um, by the end of, I believe the second police picnic, the, the festival scene had, had more or less died out. Um, and I think there probably would have been, by the time we started talking about it at CFNY, it was probably four or five years since the last one. talking about it at CFNY. It was probably four or five years since the last one. What year was the first CFNY Alternative Festival and what exactly were you calling it? So the first CFNY Canada Day Festival was July 1st, 1987. And we did it to celebrate the 10th anniversary of CFNY as a format, as it lived there, the spirit of radio.

And it was strange and it just came out of, it just came with a group of us in the promotion and sort of the contest administration department worked in a separate office from all the other people who work at the station. worked in a separate office from all the other people who work at the station. So this was when we were at 83 Kennedy road South above Spanky's and, and whatever else that club became years later. And our office was the old accounts receiving department of a dentist. So it had one of those glass windows with a little slot underneath it to put your money through. So we worked on the other side of that. And we're sitting there at lunchtime one day. There were a number of Neil Mann, Earl Veal.

I believe Walter Vinafro, who is on the jazz station there now. Sure, sure. I was what we call the promotion coordinator. Earl Veal was a promotion administrator. And Earl is a guy you probably don't hear a lot about, but he's integral in the history of that radio station. He's there for virtually every decade of CFNY and Edge 102. Maybe that's something for a little later.

Anyway, so we're chatting about, you know. Before you, Phil, before you go any further, just thanks to Alan Cross and the Journal of Musical Things.com. The first police picnic was Sunday, August 23rd, 1981 at the Grove in Trafalgar in Oakville. The second police picnic was in 1982 at exhibition stadium on Friday, August 13th. And the third police picnic was August 5th, 1983 at the exhibition stadium. Average ticket price, $20. Crazy.

Those prices are outrageous. Yeah. So in 1987, well, yeah, please continue with that story of the origin here. And I think it was probably February of 87. We're sitting around in our accounts receivable office. And we're promoting the fact that, you know what, summer's not the same as it used to be. You know, everybody does the same kind of, hey, it's the summer of chum or the summer of Q or the-

Another wasted summer. Yes. So, you know, we brainstormed and we took it to Darren Waslick, again, kind of a, I'm not going to say he's an unsung hero, but he's a major force behind the early days of CFNY, The Spirit. And he may have come up in other chats that you've had, but a promotional genius. So we said, you know, we should do a festival this summer, you know, maybe a thousand people or something like that. And there's a lot of interim steps, but it finally comes that Darren takes it to both Molson, who have just launched the Molson Canadian Rock Series, which is their concert series, CPI, which is, I believe, Concert Productions International, which is now Live Nation. And then somewhere in there, there's an outside contractor called Neil Dixon, who is the person who runs Canadian Music Week. And he serves as another one of our key organizers in the early

day of the CFNY Canada Day Festival. So it comes together and Molson Canadian announces it at their summer concert press series, which was at the old brewery on the lakeshore. And with big fanfare, we announce the most of the lineup for Canada Day. And this is in May. We announce it not that far until July 1st. Right. And Darren had organized to sell the tickets through Pizza Pizza for $1.02. And you could order them with your pizzas, and they would deliver them to your door. So just to get them out there at such a low ticket price, we were still trying to avoid the ticket company fees and everything. So he found a way to get around that by getting 25,000 plus tickets into the market. Amazing. I need to get out my inflation calculator and find out what's a buck two in today's dollars.

Nine bands, buck two. Oh, yeah. And then it kind of went from there. We didn't know what to expect the first year in 87. It was, I think, almost an all-Canadian lineup with the exception of the Saints, which were an Australian band. And the Mighty Lemon Drops. Oh, right. That's correct. Yeah. So, Phil, before you go any further, and I'm not trying to hijack this by any means, Mike, but I think it's important to maybe frame the relationship that CFNY and all radio stations, but specifically

in this case, CFNY had with the likes of Labatt and Molson. Their budgets obviously in those days were humongous compared to what they are today. How did the relationship work between CFNY and the beer companies i mean maybe you know kind of a little step back about talking about darren setting this up through pizza pizza but the beer companies were a big part of this too well yeah in the case of when molson was in the uh the concert business not only did they have a great venue in molson park um which they primarily at that point they were doing a couple of country music shows up there, and also something called the AM-FM World Series, which was a baseball,

softball tourney between radio stations. They would put money and resources into building projects like this. Interesting. We'll get a little bit further down the line as to Molson's involvement in the show. But in the end, let me jump back. We announced, I think, probably the middle of May 1987. And for that first show, again, we had no idea what we were going to do. They sold 25,000 tickets, which kind of blew us away. And I think it was probably the first time it ever took four hours to get to Molson Park from Toronto.

Unless you knew the side roads. Now tell us, guys, who were the big names that were on the bill? You mentioned almost all Canadian. What acts were on that first? Again, the proper name is CFNY Canada Day Festival. Is that what it was? Yes, that's correct. Who was on the bill?

Teenage Head, Pursuit, Saints, Blue Rodeo, Carol Pope, Breeding Ground, Images in Vogue, Pikes, Satellites, Puck Orchestra, Spoons, Vis-a-Vis, 8 Seconds. images in vogue pikes satellites puck orchestra spoons vis-a-vis eight seconds um so here's i'm gonna just before you um the budget for that show was 25 000 in talent fees uh for those bands carol pope made 1100 that day and blue rodeo got 250 so when you say $1,100 and $250, that includes, that's for everything. They've got to get their equipment up there. They've got to get their own transportation up there. They have to buy their own lunch, I suppose.

That's their budget. But free beer. Well, and also I think we provided lunch. There was food. There always is backstage at a rock concert. But yeah, it's interesting to see. So a lot of those bands were booked based on the relationships that Ivor Hamilton and David Marsden and Don Burns had with the music industry and directly with bands. They could make calls and get bands to do things for the radio station that no one else could do. to do things for the radio station that no one else could do.

They were, you know, if you go back, those guys are, they defined the music scene for Toronto for an awful long time. And they had the, whereas we'd have to go through record labels in the 90s, record labels, et cetera, et cetera, guys like David Marsden and Ivor Hamilton and Don Burns had the personal phone numbers of these people and would call them up directly and say, hey, look, we're putting on this festival. We'd really be interested in having your band play. We can't play you a lot, but we've already sold such and such amount of tickets.

And, you know, we'd be interested in knowing if you want to come out and hang out at this Canada Day Molson Park. And I don't think many of them said no. Let me soak this in for a moment. Hold on here. So the highest paid talent at that first show in 1987 is FOTM Carol Pope. Yes. As she's now known. And she got paid $1,100 in 1987 dollars. That's right. And Blue Rodeo was $250.

I'm trying to think of the others. Some of them didn't get anything other than sort of an honorarium of $100 for playing. Like Eight Seconds, I think, who were an Ottawa band that kissed you when it's dangerous. That was their big hit. I think we gave them $100 and they opened the show. But Carol Pope at the time had just wrapped up being part of Rough Trade. So this

was billed as Carol Pope and Friends and it was most of Rough Trade. So fascinating that we have these details. So glad you're here, Captain Phil, because we're capturing all this vital data here. This was a success, 1987,

the CFNY Canada Day Festival at Molson Park in Barrie. A huge success. It was, and it's the only year, Phil, that I wasn't part of CFNY. I just went as a fan, and I worked at Pizza Pizza at the time. So I got my tickets through Pizza Pizza and may have scalped a few of them

by just kind of blackening out the price and standing outside the venue the day of the show and scalped some tickets. And I think I made about $300. So I enjoyed the beer tent that day and didn't see a ton of bands. But I remember, I just remember it was so new. I mean, Molson Park doesn't exist anymore, does it?

It's not around anymore. It was a fantastic venue to see live concerts. It was a bit of a drive from Toronto. Yes, the hour and yeah, four hours when it was a Canada Day CFNY thing. But it was a really nice venue to see shows. It was spread out, separated very well since we're in the COVID times. I'll throw that in there. It was never any major trouble that I can recall.

I mean, albeit I didn't handle security, but we had some incidents with Edgefest down the road involving bottles and things like that. Which we'll get to. Which we'll get to. Yeah, which we can talk about. But, you know, that first one especially, that's the one I remember the most because I was out as a punter out in the crowd for the most part watching the show. It was just a glorious day. I remember the weather was fantastic that day. And it was just, it was a lot of fun. And the people that were there were having a good time.

Now, guys, I just went to the inflation calculator because we need to know what we're talking about here. So $1.02 in 1987 is equivalent to $2.11 in 2021. So I'm sorry. Inflation for you yeah but i just just so we all know what we're talking can you just i can't imagine service fees being even 10 times that you know what i mean like i just can't even digest that number for bands on a canada day festival it's amazing here's the dark side to that mike let's hear it the next year we had gone up to three dollars whoa yeah and i bet you they were out they were like there was outrage uh outrage uh people flying airplanes overhead and then the next year um 1989 i think it was five

dollars so we were we were we were pricing ourselves out of the pizza pizza delivery world um can i just let's let's um just quickly if we can mike yes go ahead no please let's hear it oh i'll be right back okay i was gonna say um mike if you want to uh queue up the sarah mclaughlin track and i say that because so in 1989 again july, July 1st, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 bands on the roster that day. The Hip, of course, they ended up, they showed up an awful lot of times. But also Dalbello, Sass, Jordan, and Sarah McLachlan, who, whatever she's doing now, was an alternative artist at the time. And we were, if not the only, we were the biggest supporter of Sarah McLachlan in radio across the country. So I think at the time, she was either just moving from her hometowns on the East Coast to BC, but she was like maybe 21 or 22.

Just the sweetest thing, played softball with station personnel and the Tragically Hip and the Shuffle Demons. So, Mike? Let's hear some Sarah McLachlan, and then maybe a couple more clips maybe, because I've got questions about these softball games. So here's some Sarah.

So last song of the set today, folks, is great. God, there's a lot of people here. It's really nice to see so many people. And you're all going to get sunstroke if you don't put sunscreen on, so be careful. Yeah. This song is called Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox.

Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox.

Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox.

Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. Vox. In the desert of my dreams I saw you there And I'm walking towards the water Stealing body cold and bare But your words conduce the fire and you left

my soul to flee And the pain that's in your truth deceiving me has got me scared Oh I Oh I Oh I Esquece Oh, vai Oh, vai Oh, vai

Oh, vai Captain, this recording sounds impeccable. It's fantastic, isn't it? We, through the history of recording live shows at CFNY, used a company called Comfort Sound. And it's a founder and owner, Doug McClement. And he has recorded, pick a band and he's recorded it. But his work, this tape is from 1989. It's 1989.

Apart from the humidity affecting the guitar tuning, which is what I hear now at the beginning of that song. It's like, isn't that incredible? Yeah, well, I'm listening to it and it's so like pristine and clear. And Sarah sounds so, I know she's a great performer forever, but sounds so amazing. And you've like, who has this? Like who has all these live recordings of all the

uh canada day festivals and interest um i have some of them um i believe alan cross has a lot of these source tapes too mike um i think you've heard this story before um at one point they they wanted the story i don't know why they wanted the storage, because they were going to CDs, which were a quarter the size of records and tapes. Anyway, they wanted the storage at the station. So they dubbed, I think Ivor Hamilton and his crew of operators dubbed them all to Super VHS. And then they put all the source tapes in a big pile in a room being renovated and a number of us saved them. A couple of stories, though, I'd like to throw in there if I can just jump in.

And that is, first of all, Sarah McLachlan's performance at Edgefest. That was 89, was it not, Phil? Yeah. That was legendary for me personally. And the quick story is that that like you, Toronto Mike, Martin Streak liked bikes. And he liked those of the motorized kind,

which almost killed him one time. And also he liked to bring his bike to Molson Park because it was a 35, 36,000 square foot venue. And it was the best way to get around. It was a good idea. So Mike, so Martin had this bike and look at Phil's face. Yeah. Martin had this bike and he had put it somewhere and he didn't know where it was.

I think somebody just moved it or something. Anyway, I'm standing backstage and I see this young lady drive by on a bike and I'm like, that's Martin Streak's bike. I'm going to get it. And so I go over and I say to this lady, I said, Hey, that's my friend, Martin's bike. And she says, no, it's not. And I say, yes, it is. And 15 minutes later, somebody walks over and says, Sarah, is there a problem? It's funny, Bill. I actually remember seeing her ride and she's got, you know, she even dressed in those diaphanous dresses then. So they're flowing behind her and her long hair is blowing in the wind.

That's right. And I'd forgotten. i'd forgotten i'd forgotten that till lo these uh 32 years later so here so yeah so here we go we're standing it's like a little secluded area and i imagine by then this woman sarah is terrified this drunken lout saying that's my friend's bike and around the corner walks martin streak and he says bill that's not my bike here's my bike and he points at it and uh i haven't spoken with sarah since and listening uh i apologize from 1989 i love that story but this reminds me uh one mistake i sometimes make is i assume everyone listening to us right now is

listening to all the toronto mic'd episodes and therefore has literally heard brother bill on yesterday's pandemic friday when we kicked out the brother jams so let's just do a quick reset on you for those who have cherry picked this episode to learn about the festivals what years brother were you on the air at 102.1 um well on the air from 1990 until i left to come to vancouver to work for cfox in 2004 i started as a as a just a producer uh translated coffee runner whatever jack of all trades doodads as humble how Howard used to call us. I started April 1st, 1988, was my first shift at CFNY as a producer. I produced live in Toronto, Sunday Night Live, ironically, because we're talking about all of these tapes.

I used to run them. And then the jazz show with the late Larry Green. That was my first. So that was the beginning, 1988. Put on the air mid to late 1990 by the wonderful reiner schwartz who gave me a shot and then again left as the afternoon drive slash live in toronto host in 2004 okay you said april 1 was your first day it was okay that would make you an april fool I'm wondering, is it okay with the captain if I play a little bit of Chalk Circle?

Absolutely. I'd love to hear that. Yes. Is this from 1989 as well? Yes, it is. Okay. Yes. You know, Chalk Circle is the first adult band I ever saw live.

I saw them at the Ontario Place Forum. Good way to start. Yeah, I got lucky. I didn't choose it, but it's funny. Chris Wardman was on the program recently, and he produced this band for a while there. So here's some Chalk Circle here. Up next, a band that's got a new album coming up for us.

That's Alan Cross. Would you please welcome Duke Street recording artist, Chalk Circle. Hi, guys. Thank you. When I give you the box, hey I can promise She's gonna be your lot She's right to it by the wire Baby, don't cut your brother's hand

All my sinister business Is just not easy to understand He is so precious For a true romance Really too romantic and natural And I'm with myself, I voice we heard at the beginning is a young Alan Cross. That's right. Very young Alan Cross.

Can I just, the great thing about this music for me and your show, Mike, is that this is part of the canon of Canadian music, but it doesn't exist anywhere else. No one plays it. And these are like spectacular snapshots of a time. I would put, I mean, not that I would make the comparison, but I mean, I could imagine Chalk Circle and Mumford & Sons and all those sort of earthy bands being on the same stage today, you know? Good point. I think you might hear an April Fool uh an april fool on boom possibly where

where may potts is working but you're right go ahead brother sorry i was going to say the segue i was going to throw in right there speaking of boom boom is where may potts works uh boom is that radio station in toronto obviously uh boom plays Chalk Circle. The bass player from Chalk Circle was on my hockey team for the Exclaim Cup back in the 90s and that hockey team was called Boom. Hey!

That's well done. And you talk about hockey. Now I need to talk to you guys about baseball. I have a note from my good friend Andrew Stokely who about nine years ago helped me buy the gear that allowed me to create my own studio and, you know, control my own destiny with regards to podcasting.

So shout out to Andrew Stokely. I'll read what he wrote me earlier today. Over the years, I shared my ball glove with Jake gold, Gore Downey, uh, the dude from the grapes of wrath and so on.ey, the dude from the Grapes of Wrath, and so on.

He says, from the Canada Day shows. I worked the 1989, 1990, and 91, and 92 shows. He says he thought it was three times, but it turns out it was four events. Anyway, this is obviously stream of consciousness from

Andrew Stokely. But he says the 90s show was and still is the best lineup. But let's, can you guys tell me about these, is it the Wankies? What's the name of your ball team at Secret Wine? Yeah, that's what it was called, yeah. So, because they had the AM-FM World Series at Molton Park, which is the radio station softball tourney. They had baseball diamonds everywhere. And they had one just kitty-corner backstage, so you could get to it from the backstage compound.

And, you know, I don't know if people get mobbed today, but we had – I can't remember who the announcer was, but we had a play – oh, Pete and Geach, probably. Yes, they did play-by-play at the 87 Canada Day Fair. Anyway, but Sarah McLachlan played, Andrews Wright, members of the HIP, members of the Shuffle Demons who were in full Shuffle Demon regalia. Oh, wow. In their long robes and their, I think they're called the shikis the hats they um but they played um and then they were so i'm going to jump from here to um uh to move up in a couple of years i think we had the softball games for four or five years is that right bill yeah for sure the

second year was the first year i worked for cfny I played in that. And I had seen U2 at Pontiac, Michigan on the Joshua Tree tour. And Don Burns was doing the play by play for this game. And we had quite a few people watching these games. I mean, there was, I'd say, 500 to 1,000 people watching these games. And so here I got to play and I'm wearing my U2 Joshua tree shirt which nobody had seen because they didn't come through Toronto at the time so Don Burns gets on the mic and he says hey and now up is Larry Mullen Jr. from U2 and I'm like yeah that's really funny but when I came around and finally got off the base pads and the game was over, I got like literally hounded like Bono

would back in the day for autographs. I had to explain to so many people that he was kidding. I'm not Larry Mullen Jr. Come on radio face. Right. Um, but yeah, we went on for at least, I'd say two more years after that, Phil. Yeah, I think, um, I'm going to jump quickly ahead here. after that, Phil? Yeah, I think I'm going to jump quickly ahead here. So we had 87, 88, 89, 90 and 91, where CFNY worked with the promoters and bookers and organized the festival on our own. One of the one in 1991, and this is where I just want to touch on how terrible boot sauce are as a band and as people. Let's hear it. So in 1991, we have Violent Femmes, Dream Warriors, Blue Rodeo, Spirit. And Violent Femmes, I believe, are playing three-on-three hoops in the back with who was it? Who are they playing with it?

The crash test dummies or spirit. 91. I've got ska face, King apparatus, boot sauce, teenage head, spirit of the West sky diggers, crash test dummies,

dream warriors, violent femmes, and blue rodeo. Yeah. So the femmes are playing with another band three on three backstage in the compound. I think it's sky dig, to tell you the truth. But anyway.

I think you're right. Bootsauce, I think they were a band from Montreal. Montreal. And one of the leaders of the band, Parfumé, or what was the other guy, Bill? Stinkfinger something. Parfumé and... It doesn't matter.

Good question. I don't want to even memorialize them, but they were, one of them was the son of a record exec. So they got a significantly more amount of, of marketing push than they should have. Anyway, they rolled, but they had a couple of songs that we played. They roll into the back in their tour bus and they pull right up to the, the compound fence where violent fans are playing three on three against the sky diggers.

And they say, right, you folks clear out. This is our dressing room. We're boot sauce. And they and violent fans, they like Gordon Gano grabs the ball and he's looking at them. And well, it's our dressing room till 3.30 because they shared the dressing rooms. It wasn't boot sauce's time, but they tried to kick them out of their own dressing rooms because they were so full of themselves and just rude and arrogant. They weren't the only ones eventually that shared that trophy, though. There were a lot, but they were pretty much the first. And it was Drew Ling who was the lead vocalist.

They had great names, Perfume and Drew Ling. a lot but they were pretty much the first and it was drew ling who was the lead vocalist they had great names perfume and drew ling okay screw boot sauce whatever became a boot sauce do we know uh because they i'll tell you what happened on twitter okay what happened i'll tell you i'll tell you what happened to a mic in the in the early 1990s um we played them so much and they were so average and i wasn't afraid to tell people that on the radio to the point where management had found out how much I was slagging them on the radio. And they did some, I don't know if it was an interview, where they were doing some video on the rooftop of our studios at the edge of

Bloor and Bathurst, these outdoor studios we created, which we could talk briefly about later if you wish um they were on the roof and they would not come down and come through our studios because i was in the building they wanted nothing to do with me or cf and y because of the amount of uh truth that we told and it was all based on the event that phil's talking about right um the industry's small you know, and, and people find out if you're going to act like a dick, people are going to know,

and they're going to find out, they're going to call you on it. As a matter of fact, later into the history of CF and wise Canada day and edge fest, I'll gladly tell you a story about my first meeting with the tea party and how badly that do that now, because I'm worried. We'll say,

we'll do it later and we'll forget. And then I'll be like all night tonight. I'll be like, Oh, I can't believe I missed the tea party and how badly that do that now because i'm worried we'll say we'll do it later and we'll forget and then i'll be like all night tonight i'll be like oh i can't believe i missed the tea party too far too far ahead on phil here but you do that and then we'll come back here and then i got a note here a real-time note from andrew stokely actually go ahead okay so the first time the tea party played molson park for us i'm just trying to see here what year that would have been. And it looks like we're talking about. Oh, it'll be after we went to, um, 96. Yeah. 96.

They were the headliners of edge fest that year. Um, I had never met them before. Um, I love their music was a big fan of their stuff they had a wonderful human being man of a manager named stephen hoffman the late stephen hoffman who died at the age of 36 from a rare lung cancer which is ironic given the fact that he never smoked in his life uh anyway so steve kind of brought these guys in with a little bit of clout. I mean, he was working for SRO Management, which was, what's his name, Phil? The head of SRO and Anthem.

I don't know, but he used to manage Van Halen, right? And Rush. And Rush. Yeah. Anyway, so they kind of came in with a little bit of attitude, and we met them in the afternoon kind of came in with a little bit of attitude and we met them in the afternoon, kind of wandering around. Cause they weren't really a band that, you know, put on nice summer t-shirts like I have on now here.

And they always wear black. Let's just put it that way. And they were not very, they weren't accustomed. I don't think to playing venues with other bands and sharing sort of the bill. They were kind of used to doing their own thing, I think, at that time. And Stephen, I don't know if he didn't handle it well or who didn't handle it well,

but I was scheduled to go up and introduce them. And at the very last moment, literally took two steps onto the stage and was chucked off by what I perceived was the band. They were too cool to get, have somebody from a radio station, introduce them. Um,

it turns out it had nothing to do with the band and it was a bad call by Steve Hoffman to tell you the truth. And even he apologized to me later, but I, uh, I was pretty, wow. Maybe my ego was a little out of control in those days,

as many of our announcers were, Phil will attest to that. But I had a serious hate on for the Tea Party for a long time. And I gave, I ripped them on the air pretty good to the point where they had all called me at the station trying to calm me down. But yeah, there was just some incidents like that. There was always a balance of power backstage, Phil, you'd have to agree. There was the people at the promoter MCA Concerts Canada, and a girl named Emma, who was trying to kind of wrangle in us announcers who were walking around like, you know, babies, a bunch of babies. It was bizarre was bizarre and you know we never stay still and we weren't allowed to go to certain areas and we would always say hey it's our show we can go

wherever we want but really it wasn't our show it was a combination of people's show but announcers of course never listened to that shit so we we were we were a pain in the ass for a lot of people but that specific tea party incident really turned me the wrong way and it was uh it was unfortunately got settled and they became some of my best friends in the industry including steve hoffman so happy ending there okay we're gonna reset and get us back here i just want to read that uh andrew stokely is watching this live on facebook and he points out violent femmes also played in the celebrity softball game. And he says, hello to you guys.

So Stokely says, hello. Uh, I have a quick question about softball before we move on from that. And then I need to find out about venue changes, et cetera. But who was the best softball player amongst the, uh,

radio, the one Oh 2.1, the CFNY staff. Oh, I'll leave that one to you, Bill. Well, the best player, as far as hitting the ball goes, was a guy named Ivan Cabraja, Dr. I, who worked with Chris Shepard.

He was a producer, big Croatian guy who could just, we used to play by Peel Memorial Hospital in Brampton. And there used to be a tennis court in the outfield. And if you hit it a certain distance, you were going to almost ping off tennis players. So whenever Ivan came to bat, we'd have to say, hey, tennis players, get ready. This ball's going to come to you. And 90% of the time it did. But when it came to the celebrity tournament, I don't remember anybody specifically that stood out from either our team or the musicians i don't remember anybody being we were all you know focused on the creative aspect i mean we weren't really baseball you didn't even did

you even play phil i don't think you played did no i i was never involved in anything because i was there with my clipboard organizing you were were working. Yeah, somebody had to do the work here. Also, I don't play softball. No. There you go. You know, Andrew Stokely was a good softball player, for the record. I know he's watching. He was good.

He was a good player. He had a great glove. I think Andrew played first base a lot because he got a big glove he could catch because our throws were always 10 feet this way, 10 feet that way. And he could stretch. So he was good. He was good. Oh, that's good to hear.

That's good to hear. Hey, so when we start these festivals, we're at Molson Park in Barrie, right? At some point, does the location change before it kind of shifts back? Like, does it move to Ontario Place? Yeah, it might jump in here. There's a two-step thing here. In 1991, no, 92, Molson takes the organization of the event

away from CFNY because they want to do what's a national beer promotion called the Great Canadian Party. Spinal Tap flies across the country and plays East Coast, Toronto, and Vancouver in the same day. Danny Elwell's on that plane. Bruce Barker. You know, it's a radio promotion. So they book a combination of sort of we booked half, they booked half.

They bring in Slick Toxic and we bring in Sons of Freedom, something like that. and we bring your sons of freedom, something like that. So that sort of puts a hard stop on our stuff at Molson Park for some reason. And then the next year, have you had Elliot Lefkoe come up on these? You know what? He comes up a lot. He comes up a lot. His brother is actually, who's a sports writer. Perry's been on the program. He's an FOTM. But I invited Elliot Lefkoe to be on Toronto Mic. I wanted to talk to him

for several reasons. And he politely declined. So Elliot's not booked. He's a private person. And he plows along quietly in the background being highly successful. So after the great Canadian party at Molson park elliot and this is after we've just relaunched we have relaunched now as uh cfny 102.1 the leading edge right and elliot comes to us uh in the early part of this year and says um hey i'd like to do a show called edge fest and i'd like to do it at Ontario Place on the rotating stage.

And he said, yeah, you know, we'll get all the local bands and everyone have a good time. It'll be cheap and there'll be lots of bands. And then, you know, our buddies Rea Statics will headline the show. A lot of those conversations with Dave Bookman and Elliot Lefkoe end up with, and the Rea Statics will headline the show. Right, right. So Elliot actually comes to us with the name Edgefest.

And that's when it launches at Ontario Place. Now, I'm going to tell you something. And you'll know this from your history with Humble and Fred. The chorus are aggressive trademarkers. So they trademarked, Elliot came to us with the name Edgefest, and they trademarked it, and then licensed it back to the concert company. You know, not surprised, because you probably know the story that Chorus sold Humble and Fred back, the trademark Humble and Fred, for something like $5,000 or something.

$5,000. Yeah. So we would license, I believe, we licensed the name Edgefest to whoever was producing the concert for $25,000 a year. concert for 25 grand a year. Now, one of the interesting, what could have happened down the line, of course, is that we could have licensed it to whoever we wanted, and they would have produced an Edgefest for, but luckily, you know, we had a great partnership with Elliot and MCA concerts, and he drove the next number of years of Edgefest from Ontario Place Forum, which is primarily Canadian acts, and then back to Molson Park. Phil, when you mention taking the name Edgefest and you say we or they, what's the process?

I mean, without getting too full into detail, what's the process of being able to own that domain site or that name? Is there money involved? there funds yeah there's a filing fee it's a long time ago now neil i haven't i've only trademarked my own name now so you never did it directly no no it was held by our it was our lawyers and our business units right they they would but they did it quietly and then then there was the day i had to phone elliot and say that uh, we've licensed the name. It's $25,000.

Now, mind you, you know. Sure, Elliot was thrilled. So this was our celebration, our coming out as the edge, basically, these celebrations at Ontario Place. Significant change, absolutely, in the radio station at this time. Yeah, everything was, we were highly controlled, the brand images. I almost got fired for buying 500 t-shirts with round buttons instead of triangular buttons. That's how dedicated they were to the brand. Wow.

Wow. Because the brand was a triangle. That's what it was. It was all our business cards were triangles. Everything was a triangle. I remember the it was. It was all our business cards were triangles. Everything was a triangle. I remember the triangle logo for sure. I remember this. That's the first one, the Leading Edge logo, right, Phil?

But the triangle also remains in Edge 102. Everything they stylized, but it remains until the end of the Edge 102 era too. Wow. Now, you mentioned Dani Elwell who of course I can't remember I know she quits on the air because when she was

on the program here I played the clip of her resigning on air so I want to say that's like 92 or something but I can't actually

remember. Sounds right. But this is I'm just looking for an excuse. I have such amazing audio that was recorded from all these festivals

so maybe we pause here just play a little bit of Dalbello. And the reason I'm bringing up Danny Elwell is because Dalbello is Danny Elwell's sister-in-law. Right. And this takes us back. This is an earlier Molson Park

tune too. But as you said, the quality is fantastic. Let's hear a bit of it and then maybe everybody listening at home let's tango. Neil Mann here I've been waiting for this lady all day ladies and gentlemen capital recording artist Del Bello

She owed Neil money Let's hang on Your arm rests upon my shoulder Your hypnotized Never tried to break my stand Put your mouth on mine, your back on snow Your skin feels tight, I sat down and I dreamt I pulsate, pulsate, you and I begin Tangle skin to skin You can chuck a rise

Deep into my eye Let's tangle Let's tangle Like the river's Bit of beat Into where they do Let's tangle Let's tangle

Let's tangle I don't want to sound like a broken record, but the quality of these live recordings is amazing. So just a bit of background to that. I had these old tapes in my cupboard for 25 years, and I have a reel-to-reel recorder that I rescued from the garbage and rehabilitated. So these tapes being this old, the backing falls off them, and they're ruined. these tapes being this old,

the backing falls off them and they're ruined. Unless you bake them in a Ronco food dehydrator for a day, and then you get one or two plays to capture it from a digital standpoint, and then like Awakenings, they go back to sleep. You know, I just heard the

Tragically Hip guys talking about how they resurrected the old Saskadelphia audio. Like, and they talk about baking it and you get this one or two shots or whatever. It makes me nervous thinking about it. Yeah.

Like you should have, some don't. You should have seen what Phil did to, uh, my former bands demo tape, just shredded it after 20, 30 years, but rightly so it's what's interesting mike as well what's

interesting is um um first of all we've mentioned his name but credit to doug mcclement and his crew for their recording prowess which is just second to none it's unbelievable i'm listening to uh lisa like i'm sure a lot of people are, and it sounds like you're back there. It sounds like you're there that day. It's really captured very well. I mean, incredible work by Doug and his crew. Comfort Sound, was that who they were? Yeah.

Yeah, unbelievable. On top of the crews that worked from 4 o'clock in the morning until about 3 o'clock the next day, setting up stages, setting up gear, tearing it down. The security people, just unbelievable how it all came together. And I was always in awe because I was kind of the outsider looking in as an announcer, whereas Phil was more hands-on dealing with people directly. But just taking a moment to stand backstage, whether it was at Molson Park or it was at Ontario Place, and just watch how people worked in sync.

It's quite an amazing, almost a living being, putting on a concert of that magnitude. It's pretty special. Well, brother, I hear you have a story or two about maybe being tackled. Did, were you tackled? I, I,

yeah. Um, that was edge fast. Holy cow. We got to jump ahead here because. Well, do you want us to get help? Maybe if captain brings us up to speed here.

So, uh, don't worry. I'm going to make sure I get that tackled story. Don't worry about it. I'm not sure if it was Edge Fest, though, or it was Lollapalooza, to tell you the truth. Okay, well.

I'm just looking through. That's a different episode, the Lollapalooza episode. That'll be a different one, Pierre. Oh, yeah. But Captain Phil, we have the show Moves Ontario Place, as you described. And it kind of takes it back to its roots i suppose but when does edge fest go back to molson park and barry so i'll jump to that it goes back in 1996 but remember i mentioned that we licensed the feta that um elliot and the concert company So in 1995, they start to maximize their investment in the trademark and they do three

edge fests at the Molson amphitheater in the, at the end of May on July 1st and then August 5th again. And they would, so I'm going to say back and part of this is very pragmatic. You take a bunch of bands that wouldn't draw on their own and you package them together. And then by calling it Edge Fest, they would get 100 percent to the test here by doing three. And that also speaks to the fact that MCA or Universal, whoever was the holding name of the concert promoter at that time, then did a cross-country Edgefest tour, which our only involvement in that was licensing the name.

Phil, before they did the cross-country, didn't they do just three cities? Didn't they do Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal? Or am I getting, I could be getting the Our Lady Peace Festival. Oh, Somersault. Somersault. Okay. Yeah, right. It was, that was Somersault.

I'm sorry. Okay. But it was, by the way, it was Edgefest with the tackling incident. When you're ready, I'll tell it. Well, let's get us back to Molson. So, Captain, the show ends up going back to Molson Park and Barrie. Is that just to get more bodies there? Why did it go back to Molson Park and Barrie?

Well, the capacity was significantly higher. And they own the venue. And I'm not absolutely sure the rationale. I mean, it's 1996. So the minutiae of that particular decision escapes me at the moment. But we go back there with pretty well another full Canadian Bill, headlined by the Tea Party, where Bill couldn't introduce them. So 1997 is the Edgefest tour in London, Montreal, Ottawa, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon and Winnipeg. Again, we weren't involved in anything other than the local shows, which, gosh, I can't even remember when that one was.

It must have been July 1st. But that was an Our Lady Peace Edge Fest. They were headliners. Awesome. So that takes us 1996 takes us back to Molson park, uh, 1997 at Molson park and then touring. Um, and then there's the second stage, I believe that may have been the first or second incarnation of the second stage. Is that right? Neil? Um, I'm just looking over my notes here. Uh, the second stage I'm seeing the first second stage was 1997. That's what I thought.

So we're talking about 1998 now? Well, we're talking about whatever we need to talk about. Okay. So 1998 was the year that your friends Creed were on the second stage. That's right. And Creed were very nice to me, but weren't very nice to you, Phil. Oh, tell us, Captain.

I definitely saw Creed at an Edge Fest, but I saw them when they headlined. So that's a couple years later, I think. Right. I don't think it was that. I think it was when they, let's jump to when they headlined. 2000, I think.

Yes. Creed were both um you know typical of of the secondary grunge movement and atypical too um they were just so we did a lot of things backstage uh neil and uh and would do interviews and alan would do and everyone would be interviewing backstage it was like a full, like doing it. We were live for, you know, a whole day backstage and we'd interview bands. And as part of that, you'd bring contest winners, listeners back to meet their favorites. So I had a group of, and it, it just really ticked me off.

I had a group of 10, 15 year olds who were so excited. You know, it was when this meant the world to them. And I'd, I'd had them backstage for an hour because you never knew when the band would come anyway. And, and, and I'd organized it with the record company and the promoter and everything. And I had these 10, 15 year olds so excited and they were physically blocked from even looking at creed by these burly bike gang security people that creed brought with them wow and i i pleaded with the record company guys and i pleaded with the management and it was basically uh no one looks at creed and i guess it would have been scott stapp right neil yeah uh don't look at it it was basically don't even look at me you know the singer and and they wouldn't let them within 20 feet of our broadcast area but it right, Neil? Don't look at it. They was basically, don't even look at me. The singer.

And they wouldn't let them within 20 feet of our broadcast area. But it was our show. And they were just so rude and dismissive about it. And I know I'm looking at it from my side. I'm sure if you're an artist, you don't want to be doing stuff when you're getting in the headspace

for a show, but how was that in advance and they were just at this time though creed in the united states were the biggest band going i mean they were monster and so they were used to headlining their own shows of 80 90 100 100,000 people in New York and Chicago and Los Angeles. And, and, um, again, I, I, I don't want to lay full blame on management all the time unless it's Q prime, but that's another story. Um, but you know, Creed's management who may have been Q prime, um, big American management company out of the U S that were total dicks. Anyway, you know, I just got the impression, I interviewed Mark Tremonti, the guitar player,

and the drummer, whose name is escaping me, and they were wonderful human beings, and they were accommodating to people during the interview backstage. Someone walked up for an autograph. They got an autograph. The story Phil told me afterwards i i was a little surprised but then it kind of comes back to the scott stapp story and anybody who knows scott stapp knows the history and the future and what happened to scott um you know i there's a lot of ego going on back at these these back places these back areas and it's a little compound back there at molson park and if you're still if your dressing room isn't

as big as the other band next door and then you're going to be a little some of them get a little pissed off at stuff like that so ego was just something you had to deal with but phil's right when it comes down to it the last thing you should do as an act is turn on your fans. No matter if it's 10 kids from Toronto or five kids from Georgetown or whatever, you've got to be accommodating. And you've got to realize that a lot of people put a lot of effort into this moment. So this happens and you've got to accommodate. But you got to remember too, these kids are 22, 23 years old. These bands at this time, they're just kids. So a lot of it's being sort of thrown in their faces saying,

do this, do this, do that. They don't really have much say or really understand what's going on because it's a bit of a whirlwind. Before I get that tackling story here, I just want to ask a captain is, uh, cause I, at this time I'm,

I'm attending a lot of edge fest myself. And as I recall, like I recall seeing Nickelback, but I recall seeing them on the small stage. And then the very next year they headlined. Is that a record, if my memory is correct? Is that a record for the shortest period of time between small stage and headliner?

Two years, I guess. 2000 small stage and 2002 on the big stage. Oh, it's funny, because in my memory, it's the next year, but my memory is a faulty copy of a copy. Nickelback was on the village stage at Molson Park and Barrie in 2000, and in 2001

they weren't on the bill. They headlined in 2002. In 2002 they headlined. Do you know why they headlined, folks? Let's hear it. Because they're Nickelback. No, the original headliner was Silverchair. And then their lead guitarist

had terrible arthritis. Reoccurring reactive arthritis. They were originally scheduled to perform but cancelled because of that. So that's when you get Nickelback headlining. Oh my goodness. See, this is what you guys are played at edge. I saw a silver chair at an edge fest. Yeah.

I, are you sure it wasn't a somersault? It could have been. It could have been. I guess. Okay. So there was three big festivals happening that edge fest was the biggest. Right. It really was.

But then you had another roadside attraction, which was the tragically hips tour. Right. Uh, and then you had somersault, which was the tragically hips tour right uh and then you had somersault which is our our lady pieces tour which i only remember two of them 98 and 2000 they didn't do too many of them and i mentioned earlier going to montreal and ottawa to see the edge fest tour but that was the year that it went kind of across canada but and the headliners that year were the tea party,

our lady piece and I mother earth. So that wasn't edge fest, but that was a different time when sort of things were expanding to the point that CFNY really wasn't involved outside of the market, which was Toronto. I want to ask about the tragically hip, but first I need that tackling story. Cause it'll be one of those stories I teased six times and we never got.

Okay, I'll try and keep this as short as possible. So Tool played a couple of times. And the first time they played, they played the side stage and blew minds. They absolutely blew minds. And Martin Streak jumped up on stage and introduced them, despite the fact that Maynard James Keenan of Tool said he would kill him if he did that. Martin never listened to anybody.

And he jumped on stage and introduced the band and got the death stare from Maynard. Anyway, so Tool had come back to, I believe, Headline. I don't even know what year that would have been. I'm guessing 2003, maybe. Sorry, I'm just trying to look it up quickly. Maybe 2002? Yeah, okay, we'll go with that. That's Nickelback.

Okay. Go ahead. So, okay. And anyway, tool we're headlining Molson park. I remember this. Um, and the Maynard had a personal bodyguard by the name of Hawk and Hawk has been written about in books. He is in the, uh, the Motley crew book.

He is in the Motley Crue book. He was the guy that broke up the fight between Vince Neal and Axl Rose backstage. And here is this guy who's a very unassuming 5'6", 160-pound guy with a little mohawk. He's a white dude, and he's Maynard's bodyguard. And Maynard's not very tall either. He's maybe five foot six or something. And so I met Hawk before I met Maynard. Um, and Hawk was really nice and introduced me to the guys in the, in tool. Uh, and that was cool. And as the day progressed, um, and the drunker brother, Bill the um the more um uh brave he got and um so when tool were going on stage um my friend rob johnston who you know very well robbie j

and myself were standing side stage we managed to stay on the stage at molson park whereas nobody was really allowed to do that when the big bands were playing, unless you had permission. And so we're standing there. And I thought as I watched Maynard walk onto the stage, I thought, you know what, I'm going to go over and say hello to my buddy Maynard. I got within 10 feet of him. And the next thing I know, I've got somebody behind me who's got my arm in a lock so that it is literally up behind my head. And if I move in any direction whatsoever, it's going to snap in a million pieces. And this guy, I don't know who it is. And he walks me to the end of the ramp where people load there.

And he lets me go and he turns around. He says, what are you thinking, man? What are you thinking? And it was this guy Hawk. Wow. And I'd seen Hawk many times since then and Maynard and I've apologized to both who were more than, more than nice about it. But Hawk was a former green beret who served, uh, I believe in Vietnam towards the end of Vietnam.

And he was an assassin for the green berets. This guy, he, he, I'm surprised there's, it hasn't been a book about Hawk because this guy, you know, everybody thinks that security guys are these big,

big, big, huge guys. This guy was a little unassuming guy that could tear you in half with his bear with this finger. Wow. Unbelievable. Speaking of us,

that's a great story, but speaking of assassinations, captain Phil, what are in your memory bank? Wow. Unbelievable. particular incident that I believe then served as the impetus to never serve a bottle of water with a cap on. And that was cake on the main stage. What year would that have been? I think it was the Nickelback year. That was 2002. Yeah. And Neil, do you remember why the crowd suddenly turned on cake? It had been building all day um it started with a few coins here and there because i remember scott may went out to introduce maybe it was that year maybe it

wasn't but they had umbrellas they were brought umbrellas out but anyway it was going all day it started and and for some reason during cake's performance um i don't know cake live i wouldn't call them a festival band they're They're little lackluster. They're sure not a Nickelback band. Like they're, you know what I mean? In the Venn diagram of the Nickelback fans and the Cake fans. No, and I was backstage, so I didn't see what happened, but I remember hearing a thud and somebody said something.

I presume it was John McRae, the singer, and they left. Did they not? Yeah, and the reason is, the reason people started catapulting water bottles at them, where are they from? Are they from LA? Sacramento. Okay. They got on the stage after their first

song and they said, we're cake from Sacramento, United States of America, and we're here to steal your water. I remember this. Yes. That was it yes so everybody sent them our water and what they did was they would take these water bottles just a normal size water bottles and they would tear them in half and then leave a little bit of water in the bottom and stuff a rock in it oh my god and then reset it and then they could launch these

bottles and literally the bottles would fly 50 to 100 yards it was like a golf shot so i think they did sorry go ahead brother i didn't mean to interrupt oh i was just gonna say that the tea party were the headliners that year and that was the year that they let me introduce them and steve hoffman pulled me aside and said look you have to get these people to stop throwing stuff because at this this time, it's night, nighttime. So you can't see the bottles coming. And so he said, either you tell them to stop or the show's not going on.

We're not going on. And I'm thinking to myself, well, what do you do to get people to stop chucking bottles? Like, what do you do? And so I thought, and I don't know how I came up with this concept, being a a very very feeble-minded person but um I I thought I went out there and I said okay where and I I warned the crews I said duck for cover um and I said let's just get it over and done with now are you ready on the count

of three I want everybody to chuck whatever you have. And it was one, two, three, and it was bang. Just like bottles, like coins, bras, everything thrown at the stage. And then when it was done, I said, okay, can we just do a rock? Can we just have a rock and roll concert now? And everybody cheered, and that was the end of it. So smart for a guy who's not known for saying smart things brother well done phil did you put those words in his mouth i'm reading phil's uh script here he said to say i i was i was even surprised at myself but yeah i didn't realize that that's how it started

okay so the cake the cake thing though as i recall and you'll tell me if i'm wrong but they played like two or three songs before they finally just said, that's it. We're out of here. Like a security issue at this point because they were getting pummeled and they just walked off the stage. And as I recall in the crowd that day, people started chanting like Nickelback or something like that as if somehow the Captain Phils of the world were going to be able to change the schedule. Captain Phils of the world were going to be able to change the schedule and that now that Cake is no longer performing, we move up Nickelback an hour or something,

which of course was never going to happen. Nickelback was going to hit the stage when they were scheduled to hit the stage. It just meant we had a much longer gap between Cake and Nickelback. Yeah, luckily it wasn't pitch black. I think Cake were like a six o'clock act. So, you know know it was also

the time that people could break off and get a burger or a dozen beers or something right i think they switched themselves on that that show it was 2002 i think nickelback and or sorry cake and finger 11 switched that day cake went on before finger 11 i think yeah i don't be sure okay i see again i could be wrong again i remember cake being on before nickelback because i remember the extended well nickelback were the headliners yeah and i think cake was on before nickelback uh because but that's no they were oh okay right before them okay there you go we got to get it right brother bill because this is in the future when they want to hear the history of this they're going to listen to this episode our voices will be heard in a thousand years and they're going to be like we need the definitive history of these events so speaking of that last bash and barry

i attended this is was going to be the farewell to molson park and i this was like a canada day edge fest and i remember the tragically hip were the headliners i think we had sloan we had a lot of great canadian bands on that bill but uh the history of the Tragically Hip with these events, like how many, I know they had their another roadside attraction, but how many Canada Days or Edge Fests approximately were the Hip a part of? Yeah, they were, you know, and at each one of these events, they were at different stages in their careers. So, you know, we got them as openers and then we got them as almost the headliners under the box. The box were the headliners one year and the hip open for them. And then in the end, you know, it's the story of the hip. They were the, the, the headliners. Okay. And Captain Phil, I know you've got, uh, another engagement you need to disappear and go to. So before we say goodbye to you, you were incredible. Is there anything else you want to leave on the, before it ends up on the cutting room floor? And then I'm all,

I'd also just like to personally thank you for listening to Toronto Mike. Like it means a lot to me when you, uh, when I hear from Captain Phil that I did a great job on an interview or something that means a lot to me. So I'll wrap up, but I'll first, I'll say one of the, the, the things I love about your podcast is the way that you are, you know, steadfastly focused on doing them and getting through them. I listened to, you know, I've listened to some of your problematic ones and you, you power through. And I'll tell you that any I've listened to some of your problematic ones and you power through.

And I'll tell you that any radio guy doing this would bail from an interview after five minutes with the people who don't know why they're there. But you just you keep going and you draw it out of them. And even the ones that aren't problematic, just, you know, sometimes the technology's interfering or or the age of the interviewee. But you plow through them and you get great content and you keep people focused. So I just wanted to congratulate you on that. Well, thanks so much. I think you're talking about like the Carol Popes and the Molly Johnsons and the Art Bergmans and some of those different ones, which you're right. I don't bail because I think that's a pride of ownership thing. Like this is my baby. So I'm going to see if I can

turn this around. Whereas maybe if I were like a hired gun for something, I might be like, you know, screw this. I'm out after two minutes, but it's, you know,

speaking of edge fest and Canada days being backstage, doing the interviews, then we couldn't go into depth the way you can Mike, specifically at these events, because we had a lot of people staring over their band's shoulders saying, we've got to move on because we've got to do much music. And we've got a couple of Exclaim magazine we have to do, Chart magazine, blah, blah, blah.

And so I remember the likes of Billy Corgan coming by and talking to Billy corgan with 15 people staring at their watches and i got three minutes with them and i when they say you have three minutes they need to have three minutes but when they came to our when they sorry they when they came to our studios at on young street um they would tell us 10 15 minutes but we would always take 20 or 25 and it would make the record companies go nuts. Well, you know, I think I have three minutes or less

with the great Captain Phil right here now. And I just want to bring it back to what we opened with. I opened with Chris Shepard introducing the Tragically Hip. Why was that a big deal? Did Shepard not like introducing bands at these events? Was there something there? I think it shows he would but he was very particular he was chris shepherd a nighttime guy yeah and so this was the daytime

and and chris shepherd's there in his full uh cloak regalia and and a black wide-brimmed hat uh introducing there but he was you know if not he was the biggest i'm gonna say the biggest star at the time of the station um i you know we had a humble friend but but shepherd shepherd shepherd was his own guy oh i have to tell you this story um just before i go this is not about canada days but um uh i loved shepherd and and um us the the we used to not a, but we would sometimes go out with him and he'd get someone to give him a limo and we'd go and visit his nightclub friends. I think it finally turned, I sort of pegged later on that they were probably all connected in the crime world. But after one particular evening, he takes us back to his place where he and his longtime girlfriend lived. And his furniture is all covered in plastic, like my friend Marie Lewis's house when I was growing up.

Wow. That's the perfect parting fact to drop on us here. So, Captain Phil, you are dismissed. Thank you for your service. This was amazing, buddy. This was amazing. Thanks, fellas. Talk to you in us here. So Captain Phil, you are dismissed. Thank you for your service. This was amazing, buddy. This was amazing. Thanks, fellas. Talk to you in a bit. All right. Peace and love to you. Brother Bill,

I can't quite dismiss you yet. I want to thank you for the fact that you've been subbing in whenever a member of the Pandemic Friday trio, and it's never me you notice. I haven't actually missed a week, but if it's Cam or Stu,

you fill in. You're like the official. You're like what Jay Leno was to Johnny Carson, I haven't actually missed a week, but if it's Cam or Stu, you fill in. You're like the official, you're like what Jay Leno was to Johnny Carson, I suppose, back in the day, or Joan Rivers had the gig for a while, the official fill-in. And you've been amazing. And I just want to tell you,

it's been a thrill to record all these times with you. Well, it's been fun for me as a broadcaster who's been out of work for a while, who always dreams about getting back into the business one day as we say in broadcasting this kind of keeps our chops going and uh and it really helps me out even though sometimes I I listen back to some of our pandemic Fridays and I think boy oh boy when did my uh my Alzheimer's start because I can't seem to remember anything anymore but um no it's been a

lot of fun for me as well. And hopefully continue to drop by and see every once in a while before we actually see you in person. That's why I've never met you. That's right. For those who don't know, I mean, I'm in White Rock, British Columbia. Phil is in the most beautiful part of British Columbia, one of them anyway, Horseshoe Bay, which is where you take the ferry to Nanaimo from Vancouver. And we have yet to meet in person. Yeah, you and I, not you and Phil. No, Phil and I see each other all the time.

And for those who don't know, Phil's sister and I are a couple. So he's basically my brother-in-law. Today I learned. I had no idea. Oh, you didn't know that? No, I didn't know that. No. My girlfriend is Phil's sister. I phil's uh phil's sister

i had absolutely no idea that's a tremendous fun fact right there hey so before i'm about to play lowest of the low did lowest of the low ever play uh one of these canada day events yes they did they played one of the events i'm going to guess 92 uh at i'm sorry ontario place so that would have been 92 i think uh They were the headliners. It was a couple of days. It was July 1st and 2nd. And the hip, it was sort of like a Canadian, all Canadian lineup the first day.

And then the second day was international acts. I remember it was Radiohead, the Violent Femmes, which was funny in itself because I remember standing in the, there was a walkway to get onto the platform at Ontario Place because that stage went 360 degree turn. And we're standing there. I'm standing there beside the bass player, the Violent Femmes, and this girl leans over and goes,

hey, have you guys seen the Violent Femmes? And the bass player looked up and said, no yet which is kind of funny but uh the lowest of the low were the headliners uh the first night or the uh the first uh the first day i'm just trying to look i'm sorry the rio statics were the headliners this is 1993 the ontario place Forum, July 1st and 2nd. The Waltons, the lowest of the low. Rio Statics, Crash Vegas, The Watchmen. Shout out to Cam Gordon, your friend Cam Gordon, and your friend Stu Stone. Head were on the bill.

Odds, Change of Heart, Shadowy Men, Meemaw and Morgan Taller. Corky and the Juice Pigs, Sarah Craig. And as I mentioned, the second night was international. That was Furnace Face, who were actually from Ottawa. Judy Batts, who I don't remember. the juice pigs sarah craig and as i mentioned the second night was international that was a furnace face who were actually from ottawa uh judy batts who i don't remember ned's atomic dustbin wow and radio head wow wow wow okay so because i uh am gonna leave some great audio on the cutting room floor here i'm gonna name like six performers and you can pick one that i can play a bit of before i play lois the low here uh the tragically hip andrew cash the spoons sass jordan or jeff healy do you have a personal

preference if i were going to play one uh of these acts from edge fests or canada like how could you do this to me so there's three bands there that stand out especially um the spoons performance is spectacular i've already heard it um jeff healy's performance of uh angel eyes is unbelievable um and and maybe you can throw together an extra or something, do something. So people get a chance to hear just how great and, and how it takes you back if you were there, but you know, we haven't played the hip yet. Have we? I know I did before you arrived. I opened with an intro of Chris Shepard introducing the hip in 1991.

And then I had like a little bit of Gord Downie, but then we haven't actually heard the band. Okay. So why don't we do this if you'll promise me this yeah let's do the tragically hip but let's do it from chris shepherd's opening all the way through i believe it's the first song which i think is she didn't know or is it blow it high dough i think it's she didn't know can we do the whole song uh let's yeah let's do it uh i You're not going to be upset if you miss the opening minutes of your Scotland versus England. I'm taping. That's okay.

All right. Happy Canada Day and good evening. Welcome to the nighttime. I'm Chris Shepard from CFNY. This is the Tragically Hip. Merci, Poo-Poo. I'm still wearing what I was wearing last year. I didn't want to ruin the whole damn year by changing.

We'd like to send a song out to the sky diggers if we could it's a woman done wrong song she didn't know she was unaware Not cognizant of a thing Yeah, yeah Oh, yeah, yeah Born a queen of a herdside She better tell But never lie to yourself And there's a lot of you She's and there's nothing to do She got down on her knees

And it took us about She's been living in heat And her friends are above Well, the lad is his baby, he's stuck out of place The Lord got his hunger, the dog got his day And trouble is not She even did it around You know she learned a lesson She up and down She didn't know

The power of love She didn't know The power of love She didn't know The power of love She didn't know No, no, no, no I miss her so bad

I live so bad One on the table, one on the floor She got me for the pride, from the back of the door. She's been taking a spotlight, so come in and roll. But you know it's over when everyone's gone. And her is gone She didn't know She didn't know She didn't know She didn't know

That I had you now It's not right She and the tiger together The days and nights You can buy her color As long as you're right The tiger at night She would turn her off And the white mist The trigger that you would turn off Oh boy

Then the whiteness of where I land Oh boy Shoot it now Oh boy Shoot it now Oh boy Shoot it now Oh boy

Shoot it now Oh boy Shoot it now Oh, the shitty now The battle of the happy and the shitty now The battle of the happy and the shitty now The battle of the happy and the shitty now Oh, the shitty now The shitty now Oh

Man, this sounds great up here. Sounds really nice up here. I'd like to thank the boys working on the crew this long and hot, sunny day. It's not a birthday for everyone, you know. We were in the nation's capital today and then we came here soaking up all that good Canada Day cash

I'll call a leopard and spot a spotted leopard here's a song okay I gotta do this all we are saying is give me a chance Yeah

Baby, please don't go Come back Brother, this is amazing Yeah, it's, you know Hipper doing a nice cover here But I'm listening again I gotta tell you Jake Gould's gotta release this

You know, the quality is, again We've been mentioning it all the way through is unbelievable um doug mcclemon and the comfort sound just un-friggin-believable the job they did putting that together to be able to record that that i believe was the hip from 1989 they'd flown in from ottawa as they mentioned that is the tragically hip like in their glory I mean they did step it up obviously um to such colossal heights um headlining every major venue in Canada time and time and time again that would have been 89 up to here had just been released that's where she didn't know came from as most Canadians know. And they were just,

you could just see this band on a skyrocket to the stratosphere. And at this time, everybody thought internationally, they're going to be huge as well. It didn't quite work out, but it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter, man, because everybody has their memories of the tragically hip.

I mean, the Juno performance with Feist, let's give a little bit of a tip of the tragically hip i mean the juno performance with feist let's give a little bit of a tip of the hat to that that was incredible um they're just there are bands and then there are the tragically hip and uh they just don't compare they're canada's best band of all time and i was such a fan of that band back in those days that I could go on forever having the pleasure of meeting Gord and Bobby and and and all of the guys time and time again interviewing them throughout their career I never got nervous talking to them except for the last time I talked to Gord Downie in Vancouver. I didn't think he looked particularly well.

He hadn't been diagnosed at that time. And I just remember the end of the interview, we were taking a picture. And Gord had his hand on the center of my back. And I guess I was a little nervous that day for some reason. So he started tickling my back with his fingers. Just rubbing my back. And it made me laugh and smile. And that's the last picture I have with him.

But yeah, just, I mean, what do you say about this country's just the gem of a band that is the Tragically Hip? We're blessed to have them in our lives. Couldn't have said it better myself, brother. Again, thanks for your participation in this episode. But now listening to that Tragically Hip Live, which I've got to find a way to release that into the wild because it's so damn good. And I think I know a way. But I got to say, I miss Gord Downie yeah absolutely everybody does and um I don't know if this means we're going to get a tragically hip show once in a while with a guest vocalist but uh some people

I guess would think that would be disrespectful to Gord's legacy but I can't see why that would be the case and and I hope we get a chance to see more of those in the near future. And that brings us to the end of our 868th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Brother Bill is at Neil Talks, T-A-L-K-S. Do you know Captain Phil Evans' Twitter handle by any chance off the top of your head?

Give me two seconds and I will see if I can find that for you. Remember, I'm not going on social media, so I'm a little light on how to do this. Oh, it is capped. Okay, so it's cappedphilevans. C-A-P-T-P-H-I-L-E-V-A-N-S. And I want to thank again Captain Phil for sharing the goods. I can't believe how much it cost to buy a ticket to that first CFNY Canada Day Festival. That's mind-blowing.

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anthem recording artists, The Spoons! You're not going to stand still for this one, are you? Come on! When all the clocks start in my heart Will you still be there to take me Back to the start When time turns around We'll do it all over again

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One last time When all of the clocks unwind We'll take our chances in this Second time around The sun in this room Sky in the airwaves Bouncing like the clouds right to my head The pictures on the wall, shadows in the replay

I think I should have left a long ago Now no one else will know When the sun turns around We'll do it all over again, one more time When time turns around, we'll take all the chances we've missed, first time around When time turns around, we'll do it all over again One last time The clock's on wind, we'll take all the chances we miss And never turn around Thank you. Thank you! Up next, a band that's got a new album coming out for us in the fall.

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I don't wanna live in this gloomy town Why don't I fall and stand down to my door Bust down to my door What a bloody thing Bustin' down my door, but I'm not in there They're closing down the old shops and the air is cold The groove is tough, the life is hard But the con is on the way My tongue is aching and all I see Mae'r ffordd i mi ddod yn dda. Mae'r ffordd i mi ddod yn dda. Mae'r ffordd i mi ddod yn dda. Mae'r ffordd i mi ddod yn dda.

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If you can spare me just a dime. Thank you very much. Yeah, keep those quarters coming. Never know when you need to screw something. I had a barbecue like this once. Yeah. I forgot my hat. All right, swing it. Anyone gets me in the eye. Thank you. No moving star But I can get behind anything

And I can get behind anything Yeah, I can get all around And I can stretch that thing I'm thinking of man I'm thinking of man Thank you. We'll be right back. The first time I know I'm really happy now I'm really happy now I don't think I feel right I think it's out of shape It's no sense, no sense

The love that we had There's no sense, no sense, no sense for the way I am now. I'm never the prince of the prince I used to be. I'm just a slave, a slave. I had to be so fast, so fast, so fast. I'm giving back, giving back. When it's all gone, I'm back again. Thank you. When you blow it wild I'll have to speedway To the same image thing When I can't catch up

But I can get behind anything Yeah, I can get behind anything Yeah, I can get behind anything Thank you. I'll have to speak to you Out at the speedway Say a little thing I believe in you I believe in you Please give us an FM-102 welcome To the Jeff Healy Band! Thank you very much. Anyway, this is the

this is the tune that's currently the single out from the See the Light album and it's a something called Angel Eyes. Angel Eyes. Thank you. Watching to live with a flower like me He showed up one life and told his story So the night starts to burn I don't know why I never knew your love I love you. And don't mind me, my lady Well, I've been dying ever No, not today Never even got one second glance.

Across the crowded room, as close as you could. I could have looked, but I could never have touched. So I'm lying in a land A size above I'll die And we'll be in good love What can I do? What can I say? If you turn me on And you're high I'll wait What can I say to you? The time I hold in your eyes

I wait forever, baby If it's just a dream Cause she's the best thing That ever happened to me Are you better off You can say I'm alright But the girl you see Is more than me

Tonight it's over Yeah, oh The fifth one, fourth one And I, I need to know This is what you're called up Why does it scare me, scare me, scare me so? It must be something I only need to see. Oh, this bad feeling, look at me. So I lie in a land of stars above.

The stars above And I say How did I Ever feel When I low Down What did I do What did I say Turn your face

So high I'll wait Turn your face so high I'll wait Turn, turn, turn Thank you. Thank you.