Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - There Are No Words: Toronto Mike'd #714

Episode Date: August 28, 2020

This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out the best instrumental jams with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon.

It's time now for Pandemic Fridays. Hold on, hold on. Starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon. You got to stop for a second. Didn't you say that you were going to have Mark record a new one when he was here? You forgot to do that. What's the problem? You stopped me down for that.

You should have told me that later. I like this one. What's the problem with it? He said he was going to get Hepz to do it. New drop? Yeah, because Hepz was here a couple of... He was here. And I was going to have him do it. But it sounds good for Zoom, right?

This one's great. I love it. Come on, Stu. May I continue? I'm going to do it again. You ready? Fair. Take two. But I'm keeping that in the episode. Here we go. It's time now for Pandemic Fridays. Starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon.

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is Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hello Mike, hello Stu. Hello Mike, hello Cam Gordon. Hello, Mike. Hello, Stu. Hello, Mike. Hello, Cam. Hello, both of you. Great to have you on the show. A little hot on the mic there.

Let me see. I'm happy that you said both because there are people that say both. Like there's like a weird L. Oh, enunciation is very important to me. You know those people that say both? Both? Like, oh, both of them.

Like B-U-L-F? Are you doing like a Bubba Booey impression? No, no, no. I know it came off. No, no. B-O-L-T- Are you doing like a Baba Booey impression? No, no, no. Oh, it gave off. No, no. B-O-L-T-H. Like both. Both.

I don't say that. No, you have an excellent enunciation. I'm actually quickly going to find out what number, what pandemic number are we in? Do you guys know offhand? I'll have the answer in milliseconds here. In 71? Pandemic. We're almost at the quarter century mark.

Like we must be close to 25, are we not? I will tell you right now that we are, right now, recording our 24th. Wow. Two four. Yeah. Pandemic. Hey, baby. Cam, you better crack one open.

Okay, crack one open. Yeah. Great Lakes is keeping us lubricated. I always forget to do it on mic. On the mic, though. In front of the mic. Because your mouth's in the mic, but we want the, in front of the mic because your mouth's in the mic but we want the can

in front of the mic. Come on, come on can. Break a nail. Don't break a nail. Can you put it right by the... Yeah. What's the matter with you? Boy, you are not a fully artist.

That was weird. That was horrendous. I'm a sandwich artist. You would not get a role in Stu's untitled movie. He would but not doing that. How many Pandemic Friday episodes do we have to record before we get a cameo in a Stu Stone project?

I mean, if there's a Stu Stone project coming up, I can't imagine why it would be difficult to put you guys in a cameo. That would be easy. Do you always film in the GTA? I mean, in the last five years, yes. At the rate that my career is going, yes. We'll see. A lot of York region, the last few projects.

Yes. Can you give us a quick update? Because last week we talked about how I had, and I guess Cam, we had seen the trailer, but we signed NDAs. We can't talk about it. That's true. We can't even name the title of this movie.

No, but you will be able to soon. Okay, so what is the update? Any update on that front? When can we talk about the title and the premise? What's the date next week? Oh. Is it already September? Yes, yes, it is.

So we'll be able to talk about it. Okay. Yeah. That's exciting. Yeah. And can we now announce that we're going to do a Cam-less episode next week? Is that official? Yeah, the cameras will not be running. We will be doing a... And can we now announce that we're going to do a Cam-less episode next week? Is that official?

Yeah, the cameras will not be running. We will be doing a... No, Cam is not going to be here next week. He's going in to get his tonsils taken out. Finally. He's going to get ice cream and three days rest. That's what they tell me, yeah. He'll be good. Can you wake him up?

Get into the fall, yeah. Do you have active tonsillitis right now? Where are you going? Are you going on a trip? I am going to my girlfriend's cottage Oh She has her own cottage? It's a family cottage

Oh Good job Yeah Because my wife has no No property of any sort No Gold digger cam I would love to have access to a cottage.

I'll be honest. Maybe I'll ask and we could do an episode up in north of the city. I was going to say where specifically it was. A stewless episode. No, you're all invited. Oh, am I? I'm not doing it without you. I didn't think she

would want me there. Of course you would. Does she not like stew? I didn't think she did. Why? I'm not doing it without you. I didn't think she would want me there. Of course she would. Does she not like Stu? I didn't think she did. Why? I'm just kidding. No, she's jealous. Because Cam won't stop talking about you. Well, we gush over each other.

She likes everyone. She likes everyone. She's a people person. She doesn't like me enough to actually, you know, say hi on a microphone on an episode of Toronto Mike. Oh, stop. She's just shy. I can't actually recall a time in my life, maybe once, but I can't recall a time in my life where Cam and I have been in a fight of some kind.

Yeah, I'm trying to think. We have that going for us. Wow. Yeah, I don't really fight with him. I get the feeling he's a passive guy. I bet you would drive his woman crazy. He flips a switch. Like they'd want to see some passion out of him.

He has a switch. It gets funny. Why don't you get. Like they'd want to see some passion out of him. He has a switch. It gets funny. Why don't you get angry? Sort of rooms to the house it comes out. The fire. You know, he's on his like fourth marriage or something. Oh, stop it. You should talk.

Glass houses, buddy. We're tied. We're tied. Okay, gentlemen, I need to get serious for a moment before we get to the music here. And it's kind of appropriate, I think, in some regards, that the theme of today's jam-kicking on Pandemic Friday is there are no words. Yeah, well, I was going to say, I was thinking of what could be kind of a natural segue.

And originally when we record every Thursday, we thought we'd be head-to-head with a Raptors game, the first game of the Raptors and Celtics, and that's obviously not happening. When we moved the time, I was very pleased because... I wasn't pleased, by the way. Two hours to get here, but go ahead. Get some action.

We've got to fix that. We've got to talk to Austin Keitner about moving you closer to the headquarters. I don't want to take away from the seriousness of what's about to be said, I think. I think that's one of our strengths, is we can be silly and we can kick out jams, and sometimes that's silly and sometimes it's serious, which we'll get to actually said, I think. No, you know, I think that's one of our strengths is we can be silly and we can, you know, kick out jams. And sometimes that's silly and sometimes it's serious, which we'll get to actually in a little bit.

You know, I have got very serious. And, you know, Stu is particularly of the ability to kind of encapsulate what's going on in our society. It's been a very, you know, during this pandemic, we've not only is there an actual pandemic, COVID-19. Did you know that? Sure, yeah, I heard. But we've been talking, you know, when George Floyd was murdered, we talked about the protests and Black Lives Matter. And now, I guess it was yesterday that there was, I call it, I don't know what you guys are calling it. I'm calling it a wildcat strike. Like, I feel like technically that's what it is when the players like the actual

labor oh we're talking about the yeah the nba i'm sorry i should be on prefaces like they actually the labor on their own the labor decides we're not going to work today yeah that's a wild yeah well i was listening to tim and sid on uh sportsnet radio 590 on the way over and uh i think it was sid quite uh passionately said you know this was not a league shutdown this was the Milwaukee Bucks I believe were the first team to say we're not playing. I think the Raptors were the first to sort of float the idea. Norm

two guys Fred Van Vliet and Norman Powell did I saw an article the day before where they talked about it but you're right I think the Bucks were the first team to say we're not taking the court tonight. Totally yeah. Which is appropriate I mean that was right that was the right thing to say, we're not taking the court tonight. Totally, yeah. Which is appropriate. I mean, that was the right thing to do. And, you know, you said that I'm a guy that can drop that serious content when needed. But I've got to be honest, I'm tired of it.

It's exhausting to have to have the conversation again. And I can only imagine how frustrating it is for people who actually have to deal with this and not me who's an outsider to having to experience that type of discrimination. It is just getting tired, tiring, you know, turning on the TV or flipping through your news feed or wherever you may be and seeing these disturbing videos. or wherever you may be and seeing these disturbing videos. And it's shocking that it's still, we're just a month removed from this just happened. And it's happening, here it is again. And I have a feeling it's going to be again and again and again.

It's just until some sort of change can be made. And it's not just about racism. It's above and beyond that at this point. It's also just the police in general who, you know, I'm not saying fuck the police or anything like that, but I'm saying that there's got to be a better way than the way that they are currently doing things. There's no excuse why we have to keep seeing videos of people getting shot.

Okay, let's talk about the catalyst is Jacob Blake. I call it the attempted murder. So basically the catalyst causing this most recent protest, if you will, is the attempted murder of Jacob Blake, who is a black man, by the way, and that was by police in Wisconsin on Sunday night. And I was talking about this on an episode of Toronto Mike that was recorded earlier today with Ron Hawkins about how, remember, the news was covering all the protests.

Like it was every night you could see footage of the protests. It was like a number one news item. It pushed COVID aside actually as the number one news item. And then at some point the news stopped covering the protests, but the protests never actually stopped. And it's almost like now, at least after these actions yesterday, it's back on the front page.

But I feel like you need some people to die or be close to death for this even to potentially surface again. I don't think that's the truth. I think everybody has a camera on their cell phone. It's the cell phone footage that exists nowadays that everybody knows now. It's ingrained that if you see something going on, you pick up your phone and you start filming it. And it allows these stories to, you know,

this is one of the positives of social media where awareness is brought to things like this. And it's just, I hate to use the word silly, but it really is silly that we are still talking about this in 2020. It is such a divisive topic as well because certain political parties in the United States have made it that way, and it shouldn't be. The message should be unite, not divide. You know what I mean? Well, I was going to say, this week you also have the backdrop

and kind of the flip side of the Republican National Convention also going on. So when you contrast some of the footage and some of the speakers that they've kind of trotted out for that. It's been completely politicized. It's pretty staggering. Do you think,

do you think, and I'm not here to say like, oh, vote one way or the other, because I think I might be the only. Because you're Canadian. Well, I also am American, so I can vote. Really?

Oh, yes. I didn't know that. Did you know I can? My vote does, I can vote. So I can be swayed a certain way. Are you an American citizen? Yes.

A dual citizen. Yeah, that's true. I'm surprised. We have a group chat with some of our high school pals. We were talking about this. Okay, so now please continue. I didn't know that. No, I'm just saying that it's just been, you know,

it just seems like, you know, one side is basically using this the riots as a negative spin on the Democratic Party let's just say and I'm not here to say

Democrat or Republican I'm just you know why not like I know because people can vote however they want

I don't want to fight I'm tired of fighting with people about that too of course I do I'm just I'm not here I'm just surprised you're being so

up the middle I'm not really up the middle if you read between the lines but I'm just respectful that everybody can vote up the middle. I'm not really up the middle if you read between the lines. But I'm just respectful that everybody can vote however the hell they want. That's their life. It's a private booth. However, I'm just saying that if you were to look at the people who are, quote, looting and rioting, you really think that a big segment of the people that are out there causing, quote, unquote, the trouble out there,

they're voting for anybody? You think they're affiliated with a party like yeah they're not it's unlikely so it's just like uh it's it's enough already like uh the message let me ask a big some big questions that you could never possibly answer but i'm just curious of your opinion on this uh a couple things actually let's start with this one which is your big sports fans both of you of're big sports fans, both of you. Of course. Huge sports fans. Yes, guy. How did you feel last night when hockey games went on? I think one of the games, one of the playoff

games had like a moment of silence at the beginning and I think the other one, I don't think they did anything. Well, they said on the Jumbotron, end racism. Okay. Listen, I think no one's obligated to do anything, right? People do it on the strength of that's how they feel and how they're going to live up to the moment.

Well, it comes from the players. Right, right. So, you know, if you read Logan Couture's tweet from this week, he probably didn't want to cancel games. You know, other players do. Luckily he's not playing. You know, I think that the NBA has been leading the charge for social issues for a while now, and specifically in 2020.

Yeah. You know, I think that the COVID became serious when the NBA shut down. That was sort of like the, whoa, wait a minute, this is real. And I think that's sort of what happened last night as well. I mean, when the players decided not to play, it made, you know, front-page news again, and it brought awareness. I don't know what the solution is, though, as far as what can the NBA do?

Can they divert funds from their profits from these playoff games to some sort of program to do something? I don't know. What can they do? What's the answer? I feel like I'm just, like, reiterating everything that was on the Tim and Sid show, but I thought Tim made a very good point about hockey specifically, where as we know with hockey culture, there's no I in team,

and it's the name on the front of the jersey, not on the back of the jersey. It's as important, blah, blah, blah. We're all in this together. Meanwhile, something like this happens. It's flip side the NBA that's all about the celebrity of the player and the players have all the power. And they're the ones not playing, not the hockey players, which is almost kind of the flip side of sort of the narrative

that we've been led to believe our whole lives, which I thought was like a very poignant point. I'm not sure if he thought of that himself or he's reiterating maybe something that he read, but I think he was pretty spot on. This is something that does not just affect African American people. This affects everybody.

Obviously, the people that are getting shot and pull over and are afraid for their life, that's a different type of effect, but there's a lingering effect on all of us because nobody wants to see human beings treated like that, and if they do, they should look in the mirror and have a hard fucking talk with themselves. Okay, okay. But

okay, Colin Kaepernick took a knee and nothing changed. In fact, he got blackballed. Well, I would say something did change because look what's happened in four years. I mean, it doesn't take, you know, Rome wasn't built overnight. Please finish that. What happened in four years?

Well, now all of a sudden people are looking back at Colin Kaepernick like he wasn't doing such a bad thing. Okay, but what changed? Well, the perception, I guess, changed on protesting. There's a level of respect that is now given to these players that was previously, they were disrespected, called, you know, thugs or whatever the president tweeted at the time. Bastards or whatever he said. You know, it's definitely painted

a more accurate description of what these protests were for. Obviously nothing has changed. Cops are still killing people and there's still racism, but awareness, that's something. I think we're knocking no right away. I mean, when we look back on this year, it's just going to be like beyond fucked.

Like, obviously, pardon my language. But like only time will tell like what's changed because I think you were sort of getting to this, Mike, like Kaepernick for all the, you know, social media content and all the discussion and all the symbolism that we saw in that. And it gets, you know, taking a knees knees almost like shorthand for like something very specific now i've just you know kind of like you know quiet solemn like but protest what's changed i don't think i am a picture i'm now of the opinion that uh nothing will change so long as

you're peacefully protesting and taking knees and holding hands during anthems i don't think anything anything changing your instagram profile to black and like all this stuff that's great there's that that like there needs to be some rage against the machine now i i will again i got riled up by ron hawkins i bet well he is canada's billy braggs he is canada's billy bragg and he riled me up pretty good and we played his song The Barricade. It includes the line and I played this. Remember we did protest songs? Sure, yeah. I kicked out this Lowest to the Lowest song and it has the

line, my next vote's with a brick. And I swear to you, and I said this on that episode and it's still happening. No, I haven't gone and joined a protest with a brick and thrown it into a bank window. I have not done that. But my mind races all the time with that lyric. It keeps coming out. I don't know what the answer

is. I have no answers except something's got to change and enough is enough. I think people just need to do stuff that's tangible. I think it was Nazim Qadri of all people who said, you know, sometimes words just grow tired. That's what I said. Yeah, exactly. But like, think of everyone

you know. People that you know in your life. People that are close. Like, what are they doing? What specifically, tangibly are they doing? What are the measurables? Hashtags. What they're doing.

Yeah, like they're, you know, they're tweeting, which is great. You know, you have a bias there. Sure, of course. And they're talking. By the way, that's okay. I don't think that that's terrible either. To me, that's just slightly better than doing nothing. And I speak as probably a great hypocrite

because I literally said to Ron, I looked him in the eyes and I said, like, I can give money to Black Lives Matter causes. Well, what can I do? What can I do? Well, you can live your life a certain way. I mean, the way you treat people should reflect on how you make it. It's done.

It's done. Okay, well, then you're doing something. Something is better than nothing. But, Mike, I mean, you know, for you, off the top of my head, you know, you do give a platform to a lot of voices, and you have, too. I mean, I'm not trying to, like, butter you up here for TMBS sort of advertorial, but. Cam's looking for a discount on pumpkin. Yeah, I was going to say.

I got a discount for you. Well, like I said, I'm going to the cottage and he had another lasagna, frankly. But you know, you do. Okay, I'll hook you up. I know this is inappropriate to drop in this plug, but I do have a Palma pasta lasagna for you. Oh my God.

Just for him? For you too, Stu Stone. I'll take the beer this time. I have one for each of you. You take the beer, you take the pasta. Anyway, I'll just say, you know, compared to like beer this time I have one for each of you you take the beer you take the pasta I'll just say compare it to most people that I know too that don't really do anything even if they're talking about it or they're

tweeting about it or putting stuff on Facebook I'm sitting here feeling like I'm not doing nearly enough and I think that's something I gotta work out you're right I have the platform I should be doing more and I'm going to focus my energies here. I think a big part of it is just stuff done outside the house and

off of our devices. And again, I say this as the guy who works for Twitter, like getting out in your community, like connecting with people, just being a resource for people. When you heard the NBA, I think there were three games, three game fives scheduled yesterday,

all canceled because the players weren't going to take the court. Were you guys, like, what was your reaction? I hate that term. Well, if it's canceled, then there's no game. They are going to play those game fives. Will they? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Did they say that today? Well, I don't think it's official, but it's all signs pointed towards. They're playing. You heard it here first. They're going to play. Okay, because I have it in my heart 50-50, I feel. Because the Clippers and the Lakers said they wanted to go home. That was yesterday, right?

Yeah. Things have changed. Okay, because I actually am out of the loop. I think Woj is on this. Yeah, they're going to play. Woj bomb. I believe that they're going to play. But you know what?

Just what they did at least got the dialogue going in a major way selfishly I'm glad they're going to play because I'm in love with this Raptors team I loved watching this Raptors team but at the same time I was extremely proud I felt great pride

literally choked up when I was just hearing Fred Van Fleet talk about it and hearing they weren't going to play something that's ugly that I did get out of all this and it happened with George Floyd as well, is when people are coming out trying to, like, discredit

the victim. And they're like, oh, well, he's a criminal or he's this or he's that. It doesn't matter. That's all irrelevant to the conversation when you have a video of somebody getting shot seven times in the back with his kid sitting in the back seat. There's got to be a better way to apprehend somebody than that.

That's all. Agreed. So just change your fucking ways. It starts with me. It starts with Cam. It starts with you. It starts with everybody. You have a guy that's a police officer that lives down the block that I met a few weeks ago. He's a firefighter.

He told me he was a cop. He was gentle when he put on the cuffs. He was very professional. But that guy, you know, it's like... Shout out to Pete. That's not who I spoke to. Oh, okay, that's why. Okay, because Pete's a firefighter.

Who was this? There was a guy. I need some real talk on this. There was this big guy. He was like 6'5". Okay. Walking down the street. At the corner?

Is he a bald guy? Yeah. And I said, hey, are you a professional wrestler or something? Yeah, he's a big guy. And he goes, Hey, are you a professional wrestler or something? He goes, no, I'm a cop. He's barrel chested. I was like,

Oh, anyway, I like him. Yeah. If he goes to work and he has, uh, you know, the right attitude about,

you know, listen, it's easy for us to say if you're a cop and you're out in the field and you're scared in a situation, who knows what you would do in that situation, but you'd like to think that you wouldn't. And maybe if their training was different or the de-escalation sort of tactics were different tranquilizers i don't know something they managed to like uh not kill bears and shoot them you know it's like these are human beings can we do something different i guess that's where

we leave it at hopefully we don't have to talk about this again. I do appreciate that we can have these kind of chats before we get to the serious business of kicking out these jams. But it's good that we have this. I think it's appropriate that there are no words. And there's no more words for this. It's like action is going to speak louder than words. I feel like we are just sort of revisiting some of the training we did three months ago. Which is sad.

Yeah. Like, it sucks. I'd much rather be redoing, like, another One Hit Wonders episode than talking about racing. I realize that's sort of the why I think it was so great that they did what they did yesterday, the NBA players.

Like, because I don't think we have this conversation if they don't, you know, shut down the playoffs. Like, I feel like to get our attention, it required, we're not taking the court for this game five. Also, I bet you a lot of these guys who are players in the NBA have grown up in these types of situations where they have had run-ins that were unpleasant with the law. And, you know, this just, it could have been them.

It could have easily been anybody, you know, that got, you know, this just, it could have been them. It could have easily been anybody, you know, that got, you know. But this is, again, final thought on this is that I was disappointed when the NHL did nothing of substance because, yes, yes, the NHL is a very white league, okay. I don't think that's why they didn't do it. I didn't say that's why. I said, so I'm literally in mid-sentence. Fair, fair.

Literally in mid-sentence. But to me, that's irrelevant. We're all white people here. It's irrelevant that you're not affected directly. I think also when you had Adelaide Vigneault came out, he said, oh, I don't really follow the news. I'm just a hockey nerd and I'm just focusing on the games. Like, that's not helpful.

They should have asked Elaine Fruitt instead. Or Alan Fruitt, maybe. Oh, we had chatted about him coming on. Glass Tiger, baby. Yeah. Yeah, don't forget him. Well, he could be your shortcut to Bobby Cowan, too. Oh, yeah, because they go off.

Sort of like pals, yeah. I don't know if I want Bobby Cowan. Oh, yeah, isn't there, There's like Glass Tiger Wine coming out. Yeah, probably. Because you know, after Tragically Hip, you do the Glass Tiger Wine. For the record, I've actually lost almost every shred of interest in having Bob McAllister on this program.

It's minimal. He'd have to beg me. His podcast is basically... Him and John Shannon, right? It's basically like reboot of Primetime Sports. Like getting the band back together to some degree. Yeah, I guess. I'd like to see a Toto reunion. Are they not together?

They're not at the moment. I didn't know that. They're on a break. That's disappointing. By the way, you saw that their Weezer cover that they dropped. Yes, yes.

Were you aware of that? What did they cover? Was it Hash Pipe? Well, it's because Weezer covered Africa. Yeah, yeah. They sort of returned the favor. Well, they also did Rosanna, right?

I heard that. I think they... Oh, Weezer did. Yeah, Weezer covered Rosanna. No, not also did Rosanna, right? Oh, Weezer did. Yeah, Weezer. No, not Toto. I kicked that jam out two weeks ago. Okay, so just before we explain what does it mean, there are no words.

What does that mean? Just want to shout out the episode I did earlier this week on Molson Park and Barrie concert memories. Do either of you have a Molson Park and Barrie concert memories. Do either of you have a Molson Park and Barrie concert memory you want to share? Yeah. Well, I was actually only there once, and I have listened to that episode,

so I thought Gil or Gilles? Gilles LeBlanc. Gilles LeBlanc did a great job, and I also loved just hearing about, you know, oh, Sean and I played there, you know, kind of the pre... The mayor poses. Yeah, i feel like there could be a second episode honestly about like the real origin story of that place because

i've often wondered yeah um but yeah i was only there once and we talked about this recently because i think we were there we were here rather on the 25 year anniversary of lola plooza 95 interestingly gill his story is so similar to my story where where you got like trapped oh losing the brother losing the brother but Yeah, losing the brother. But also, I think he said his wife worked at Wonderland. I was working at Wonderland at the time. I was like, is this guy like reading my emails? Like, what the fuck is this?

But yeah. Can't trust Jill. No. But again, that Lollapalooza featuring such luminaries as Sonic Youth and Hole and Pavement, Cypress Hill. And you love Pavement. Yeah. It was like all the Beck was was there, all the favorites.

But yeah, everything, like the Dust Bowl. Honestly, I wish I saw more shows there. I was kind of jealous to hear both you guys because you've been both there so many times. I have a lot of great memories of that place. What about you, Stowe? I feel like when I was younger, going to Molson Park was like a road trip. It felt like it was in another planet. It was like far away. Our parents were nervous about us driving there.

We had to get on the 400. It was like Barry was like another planet from Thornhill, even though in reality it's not that bad at all. And from Thornhill, it's really not that bad, because a lot of us were coming. We had to go through the city for it. And it was like a big thing to like, you know, it's like getting this new responsibility that we're going out of town for a show.

And, you know, I was on the smaller side of stature back in the 90s. I heard. And, you know, going into these like, you know, packed mosh pits, you know, a lot of the times I couldn't even see the stage because everyone's so much taller than me. I would need to body surf just to get a glimpse. Oh, my God. I never thought of that. Peek at Soundgarden. But I was not afraid to body surf, and I would.

And it's amazing that outside of Cam's bad experience about getting separated from his buddies on the way home. Will Shustell's car. That we were able to find each other because we had, I guess, Cam didn't, but we always, when we went to Molson Park, there was like, if everybody gets split up, this is where we're going to meet. I find it surprising you worked at Canada's Wonderland because I feel like that's where I, for my first experience with

If You Get Lost, Meet Us Here was like the mountain or whatever. It was like, okay, you know, like you should know to have a spot. Yeah, but there's, it was, I mean, it was just like, it was also like a big empty field though. So there weren't, um, I remember seeing Oasis there.

Were you at that one? Yeah. That was with like Neil Young. Yeah. Oasis and Neil Young. That was a good show.

Right. They opened for Neil Young. So check out the Molson Park and Berry memories. I'm going to make a big announcement

related to that. You ready? I haven't announced this on any podcast episode yet. This is the big announcement. You ready?

It's better to be big. Yeah. I'm going to host a rogue TMLX. Oh, at the rogue biome? No, close. Just in case your neighbor the cop is listening, you might

not want to give out any more details. He's a wrestler. Well, be careful here. I will just say that it's going to be really low key, but if you're an FOTM, we're going to be outside and we're going to keep six feet away from each other. Okay. But I don't want to get too many details.

There will be beverages. Okay. I'll just say there'll be beverages. And we're basically, I have the date. Is Kareem going to bring some blunts? Maybe. Might be holding. I almost wonder how secretive.

I think I'll just say this. We are going to be in Marie Curtis Park. Okay. Okay. Where's that? Marie Curtis Park is like, it's in the very south end of Toronto, very southwest corner of Toronto.

Like literally we'll be so close to the Mississauga border, you could throw a rock and hit it. Okay. Because that's Etobicoke Creek. We'll be on the Toronto side of Marie Curtis Park. And again, I will share more details on a map and stuff. And what's going to happen there? You're just going to schmooze?

Well, hold on. September 18th at 6 p.m. And I was chatting with FOTM Andy about this idea. Oh, not Andy. Andy said, she said, I had something. What about this, that, and the other? She's like, oh, don't worry. You won't get even 10 people at this thing. And then I thought, I had something. What about this, that, and the other? She's like, oh, don't worry. You won't get even 10 people at this thing.

And then I thought, oh, okay. So it's a challenge. Can I get to 20? So my goal is I want, and honestly, as many people who want to come out, it's going to be kind of like a, here we are five months into the pandemic. We're going to kind of like have an opportunity to like,

hi, I'm Cam. You might, you know, just talk to each other in this field. Uh, there will be at least, uh, there will be a person who can play guitar and sing a little music,

but you know, it's going to be cool. It's going to be, uh, it's going to be a song set from Beth naked. Is it Kim Mitchell? It's not Kim Mitchell. I would love that,

but it's going to be cool. I think it's going to be cool. Cause it's going to be so freaking low-key, man. It doesn't sound like it. You're putting it on blast. That's pretty low-key. Pretty low-key. You're also streaming this live on the internet.

This is like a flow-key, but there's absolutely nothing low-key about this. I'm not streaming it live on the internet. Right now you are. Sounds illegal. Yeah, right now I am. That's true. I do not condone this. So it will be a TMLX6, but it's kind of a rogue TMLX

in that it's not at the brewery where we've had four of them. It's not at Palmas Kitchen. How do you know the brewery wouldn't let you out on the patio there? Anthony Petrucci? They haven't opened their patio yet. Not even by September 18th? Yeah. No.

Wow. Did they already announce that? They haven't opened it yet. They're not going to open it by some time. Maybe special for you? Did you try to maybe have a special privilege? No, I'm actually purposely keeping them out of it. So it's me on my own going rogue.

That's why it's a rogue team. Me on my own just saying, hey, if some FOTMs are at this park at this time, I'll be there too. And if I'm the only one who's there, that's okay. You know what I mean? Because it's not like this is an expensive overhead. You know the movie Cruising like this is like a sequel like is this the new stew stone move so this is happening sketchy so put this in your calendars okay september 18th is there gonna be like a temperature check 6 p.m oh yeah that's the other thing rain or shine no no i mean like like body temperature check no we're gonna we're gonna be outdoors yeah and we're

gonna be six feet away from each other okay you're like body temperature check. No, we're going to be outdoors and we're going to be six feet away from each other. You're going to paint circles on the... Trust me, we're all responsible adults here, Stu Stone. Sounds like a Burning Man festival. You know, it'll be very, very, very safe. Burning Fever Festival. And yes, and there will be what I would call sneaky

beverages. Okay, we'll just say that and that's all. Boy, you are just putting it all out there. I haven't said anything. You think that the cop can't read between the lines that's listening? He's invited. He's literally right over there. He's invited. He's so tall.

He's invited. I'm going to read a little comment I received on Twitter from a longtime listener, Michael Moniz. Oh, Mike. And this is in regards to last week's grunge episode. Last week's grunge fiasco. This is a raging comment. Ready for this? Are you guys bracing yourself? I'm sure it's a good thing. Last week's grunge fiasco. This is a raging con. Ready for this? You guys bracing yourself?

Yeah. I'm sure it's a good one. By the way, what are you drinking, Cam? I'm drinking the, is this just called Burst? Mm-hmm. Burst,

a New England pale ale. Okay, excellent. What do you think? Yeah, it's not bad. I think, you know, if I could do it over again, I might do the, yeah, I might do the octopus

as always. I don't have any right now. It's nice. I have a Connect Pale Ale, I might do the octopus as always. I don't have any right now. I have a Kinect Palette. I don't actually have an octopus. I like the art too. It's very Ray Lichtenstein. How does it compare to the Haze Mama? Archie Comics.

Yeah. Okay, because I cracked open another Haze Mama. I'd probably rank them Octopus Haze Mama Burst. Okay. But they're all great. From your IPAs. Okay. I'm enjoying it.

Thank you. Just wanted to know great. I'm enjoying it. Thank you. Just wanted to know what you cracked open. And I'll be taking some GLB and some Pulmon Pasta to the cottage this weekend. But Stu's taking your GLB. But I got enough for both of you because you guys are awesome. Both of us? And I'm going camp. What did I say? Michael Moniz, you want to hear the quote?

I was just going to say I bought my own. I'm going to hook you up because you're a great guest. Here we go. Holy moly, this was a brutal episode. Stu conflating nearly every goddamn 90s alt-rock band as grunge had me cursing

at my podcast player. Exclamation mark. What are you going to do? So way off base, grunge broke open to the mainstream which allowed for alt-rock bands to follow in its wake. Okay, I don't disagree with that. I know, I saw your comment reply.

I even said that on the show. That was my justification for including all of those acts. I'm reading Michael Moniz's but I'm just letting you know I've been... He's making my own point. I've been pummeled though with criticism the last couple weeks. I think this is the part from all these emails and DMs and tweets that I'm getting is this. At some point in that episode, you basically made a statement that anything 102.1 was playing in the early 90s was done.

I was riled up at the time. And I think that got a lot of people upset with you. Well, they shouldn't be upset. There's more important things to be upset about. Okay, everybody? Now, what do you want me to say? Okay? If we were just specifically

supposed to play songs from Seattle bands, then everybody, it wasn't just Stu, Cam opened the show with a Toronto band. Someone said like a shitty Toronto band. Which is very rude. It's a great band. And somebody said, that. Which is like very rude. Yeah, not only that, it's a great band.

And somebody said, I know you're Toronto Mike, but this is ridiculous. Like as if I had chosen this Toronto band because I'm Toronto Mike. But you chose that fucking song. Well, didn't they call them York Region Trash or something? That was uncalled for. But I think this is a compliment. And we're going to move on to today's episode. Those guys went Discovery to disc back in the day. Cam usually goes 0 for 1 in his first at-bat.

Yeah. In general. You like to start us off weak. That yacht rock. Mine aren't, like, in order, though. Like, do you know that? Are we supposed to send them in order? I send them in order.

So just so you know, I'm always playing them in the order you send them. Okay, good. You just realizing that? Good to know. Oh, my God. Only took 25 episodes. Because you always lead weak. Oh.

And you're always the first one to go. So a lot of people tune out when they hear the first Cam Jam. They're like, this is ridiculous. Oh, I just want want to say i think it's a good thing that there was such outrage after the grunge episode because um i think that means people give a shit like i think they're engaged i was gonna say this is free market research for you of who your demographic is like that people care so much about what i've been defending myself i'm like i'm like, I picked an Alice in Chains, Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, Hole. Okay, those are all good.

And what was the other one? Not Pearl Jam, but bottom line is I picked what I thought were like bonafide grunge. Whereas I actually even prefaced before I even made my picks last week that these weren't necessarily my favorite grunge songs.

I said these were just songs that affected me in those years. Oh, you had Dinosaur Jr.? That Soul Asylum song to be specific. But who are you to change the topic? You were supposed to kick out grunge songs. Listen, I'm allowed to pick whatever I want. The grunge songs that I picked were grunge to me. Okay, that's

all we ask. Still grunge to me. Still grunge to you. Billy Joel said that. Okay, that's all we ask. Still grunge to me. Yes. Still grunge to you. Billy Joel said that. Okay, shout out to Michael Lang for his... Wait, you're shouting out a guy that just said it was a brutal episode? No, that was Michael Moniz.

Oh, different Michael. I'm popular with the Michaels. Yes. Because 40-something-year-old Toronto kids are often named Michael. It's a lot around. Shout out to Michael Lang. His meme of Stu Stone

only having eyes for alt-rock during the grunge episode. Did you see that? Yeah, I do. I missed that. Okay, so there's like, you know that meme where the girlfriend... Oh, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. That was very funny.

That was good. Yeah, Stu only had eyes for Alt-Rock. I do like me some Alt-Rock. And then his girlfriend Grunge was pissed off. It's very Twitter. Yeah. I love Alt-Rock. Yeah.

Because at some point in that episode, you might have said, I think you said Green Day was Grunge. No, I said that... Yes, you did. Yes, you did. I'll pull the clips, Stu. you did pull it all you want i said green day's popularity spot was spawned no popularity you said beck loser was i said that you said weezer was grunge first of all all you said meatloaf was grunge like that was the most outrageous part never said that it's lean

beyond grunge of course not our first album he's upset. I'm not upset at all. I'm just trying to explain that what my intention was is that music was heading in one direction. Grunge came out and kids started listening to alt-rock radio because of grunge.

All these bands got popular as a result. Shout out to Holly who just earlier today tweeted at me after I put up the Ron Hawkins episode. So earlier today

I did an episode of Ron Hawkins from Lowest to the Low. He brought his guitar. Real talk, man. It was great. Holly tweeted, that was a really deep dive interview that I enjoyed every minute.

New fan to your podcast, Mike. So here we are 700 and how many episodes later, eight years later, and Holly has just discovered we do deep dives over here. So shout out to Holly. And this is just to anyone later, and Holly has just discovered. We do deep dives over here, so shout out to Holly. And this is just to anyone listening, listen to Ron Hawkins. I don't know what number this is,

so I don't know what number to tell you. How long was he here for? 90 minutes. Let's get some good grunge right there. Local homegrown grunge. Yeah. Oh, and I have an... So let me bring down Lois to the low, actually, because I do have a grunge up here. Oh, and I have an... So let me bring down lowest to the low, actually,

because I do have a grunge update. By the way, do you... I have some breaking news. Wait. Breaking news. NBA season's canceled. Breaking news. Statement from the National Hockey League just came out.

They're not playing tonight. They are not playing. After much discussion, the NHL players believe that the best course of action would be to take a step back and not play tonight's and tomorrow's games as scheduled. The NHL supports the players' decision and will reschedule those games and adjust the remainder of the second round schedule accordingly. There's a lot more to the statement, but we just talked about it.

NHL not playing games. Go ahead. Is that too little too late? I feel like they should have done that statement. But good on them for making a statement there. Definitely not grunge. But yeah. That statement. But good on them for making a statement there. Yeah. Cam, I know you will listen to this episode, right? Like the Ron Hawkins on Tron.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Are you going to listen to it on your way to the cottage? Maybe at the cottage. Oh, wow. You know, lounging on a dock with a GLB and listening to a little Ron Hawkins. Yes. Nice grunge. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's my update for you. Hold on. This part of the song is grunge. But now it's not grunge anymore. Now it's just amazing. I love this song. Two days ago, no, yesterday, yesterday, Jay Ferguson from Sloan came over. What a delightful individual.

What a sweetheart. That's a Sloan, Ron Hawkins is a sweetheart, but Jay Ferguson really is a sweetheart. And it was a great episode, and I want people to listen to it because it was very refreshing. And I said to him, I played a little of Underwhelmed, which is a Chris Murphy song. And I played Underwhelmed, and I looked at Jay in the eyes,

and I said, Jay, is that a grunge song? And he said, for the record, definitively, no. So just for the record. Is it Shoe Gaze? I don't think he was complaining in 93 when they were getting all that spin. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't do as well in the States as Geffen wanted, actually. I liked it.

I think Sloan's one of the best Canadian bands, period. I love that album, Smeared. Like, I feel like it's almost underrated. Because it's so different than everything else they ever did. But the one after it. So that one, yeah, it got a little play in the States, and it was pretty big up here. And then the second one, Twice Removed, did nothing in the States. Wait, which song did you play him?

Underwhelmed from Smeared. You could have played him Coax Me. No, but that's off Twice Removed, and that's definitely not Grunge. Right, right, right you play him? Underwhelmed. You could have played him Coax Me. No, but that's off twice removed and that's definitely not Grunge. Right, right. There's a new Murder Records podcast, is there not? I didn't ask him about it, but I heard about this. I also saw Chris Murphy's

doing a live solo show by Zoom or something you can tune in to. Yeah, I think that's a page out of the Stephen Page book because they were in that band together. That's right. Pun intended. Pun intended.

Right? Yes. Thank you. And it's also my oldest daughter's middle name. I saw Sloan play a bunch of times live and always a good live band. And I remember specifically seeing them in London, Ontario at Western,

at one of these small kind of clubs. And I remember at one point during the show, they rotated instruments throughout the set. They still do that. They still do that. Chris likes to go on drums.

It was such an impressive thing to see how talented these guys are. They can all sing. They all write. And I consider them sort of a throwback act. Beatles. Yeah, it's like 60s, 70s,

sort of... Well, Jay, we played a clip of him from when he was 12 years old talking on Switchback, CBC's Switchback. He was talking about Let It Be, the album, the collector's edition. And at 12 years old, he worked at a record shop and just loved the Beatles. You know who was on that show, Stuart Switchback?

Do you remember that? Jeff Wexler. Oh, was he? Yeah. The Wex Man? Yeah. They had regional versions, right? A switchback.

He was talking about the Rolling Stones. Out West in BC, it was Stu Jeffries. But you ready for this? In the Prairies, you know who it was? Have you ever had a Prairie Oyster? Go ahead. That's another great band. Yeah, it was Brett Wilson.

Good guess. Good guess. Humble Howard Glassman. Whoa. Switchback. Friend of the program. So he went from Switchback to Ed's Night Party. He went from Switchback to radio stuff

and eventually got Ed's Night Party. He was the first host of Ed's Night Party when it was on City TV. Because it had a run on Cable 10. Who were the other hosts? Harlan Williams. Was he really? Harlan Williams was a host on Cable 10. I used to watch.

And then the gentleman whose name I'm going to forget, he always wore a tuxedo, and he actually took his own life, and it was very sad. So I don't remember. Eric Tunney. I did end up remembering his name. And I don't know who took over after Humble Howard.

But let's get to the topic at hand. So gentlemen, the only rule for tonight's jam kicking was we had to come to the table with five jams in which there were no words. There's no words in these songs. That doesn't mean you can take an existing song that has an instrumental version.

The song had to have no words. I'm going to play a song that's ineligible as an example. Because it has words. This song here, let's listen, because this is a favorite of Cam Gordon. Listen closely. This is a top 10 all-time favorite song. Mother Earth is pregnant for the third time.

See, those are words. So you're ineligible. But they're not lyrics. It doesn't matter. There are no words. There are no words. I was not offended for I knew I had to rise above it all.

I'm offended by this talking. Or drown in my own shit. This is Funkadelic, right? That's right. Maggot Brain? Maggot Brain. Okay. So listen up to this ineligible jam.

Now there are no words. Going forward, there are no words. So basically, those opening words disqualify this song. Yeah. Speaking of bands that played at Molson Park at Lollapalooza in 94. I believe that. Now there are no words. Going forward, there are no words. So basically, those opening words disqualify this song. Speaking of bands that played at Molson Park at Lollapalooza in 94. I believe George Clinton was wearing a wedding dress. That's right. How old is George Clinton now?

100. Can somebody Google that while I whip out that phone, Steve? He's got to be like 75, probably, I'd say. I'm going to say older. Maybe, yeah. Because he was around in the 60s and stuff before Parliament even got together. Survey says 79 years old. Wow. 79.

Bootsy Collins, only 68. Which is the puppy. Eddie Hazel, the late, great Eddie Hazel. I guess Little Wing could have been picked as a song. Yeah. Stevie Ray Vaughan. Yeah. By the way, it's the anniversary of his death, right?

Yeah. How did we know? Wasn't it 30 years ago today? I feel like I may have shit to bat this week because there's all these good songs. Oh, there's like tons. Okay. So bottom line is all of our songs we're going to play today have no words in it. So I know this is a very, very long song.

Is this a well-known song? No. Like, do you know this, Mike? No, I don't know this song. So I'm now, this is a song, and again, we haven't started our countdown yet, but here's this song. This is a song that was on my cutting room floor, but I really enjoy it. I stepped over it on my way to the bathroom.

So this, of course, is Dueling Banjo. Ah, yes. Songs for movies, too. Cam and I like to go out in the woods and put this song on. Squeal! See some friends. We're big Ned Beatty guys.

No judgment here. Yeah. Yeah, this was the great Burt Reynolds. I was going to say Burt Reynolds is most rugged. He had a run there where he was the number one

movie star in the world. So we'll give it a little taste here. But again, this is the kind of song we're looking for. A jam with no words. In the movie though,

at the end the guy goes, God damn, you play a mean banjo. Remember he says that? I don with no words. In the movie, though, at the end, the guy goes, God damn, you play a mean banjo. Remember he says that? I don't know if that makes the actual cut, though. Okay, you want to get rock in here? By the way, do you guys, I feel like we talk a lot about CD collections that you could order off the

TV back in the day. Doc Rock. Specifically Doc Rock. But there's one called Instrumental Magic. Like classical gas. Yeah, like a classical gas. I don't want to say

some of the other songs on it because I think we're going to be talking about it but I believe Doodling Banjos is on it. Yeah. But it was kind of like top 40 instrumental hits

from probably the late 60s to the... If Stu had reviewed that track listing, he would have been prepared for tonight. We could have just played that in its entirety and just talked over it. It would have been awesome, yeah.

Okay, so we're going to thank some partners, but can you please tell us, Stu, what is that figurine? I know you don't like that term for these guys. Say who is it? That's the Junkyard Dog, my friend. The Junkyard Dog. This is...

Each week I'm going to try and bring a different wrestler. This week I've brought the Junkyard Dog, the master of the power slam. Sylvester Ritter. Now you're in my era, so I remember him very well. Grab them cakes. Yeah, grab them cakes.

He would get on all fours and give you a headbutt. He had the chain, right? Big chain, right? Big chain, thump across the tush. Gone too soon. Car accident? Was it a car accident? I think so. He was the first one to go, I feel like.

One of the early guys to go, yeah. I feel like he was driving to his kid's graduation ceremony. Something really kind of heart-wrenching. I feel like he had ties in Calgary. Like he trained there or something. Well, they all did. Speaking of Stu. Yeah, the Stu Hart.

They all went there, right? So on that sad note, though, let's cheer up. Should I get pandemic decals and stickers? Should I go big on this? How long is this pandemic going to last? Call it Sticker You. Sticker You.com. Eventually this show is just going to be called Fridays.

But we'll record on Thursday You. Sticker You.com. Eventually, this show is just going to be called Fridays. Yeah. But we'll record on Thursdays. New normals. So thank you, Sticker You.com. Everybody who needs a sticker or decal or a badge or whatnot, or a temporary tattoo, go to Sticker You.com. Great Toronto business. Shout out to Sticker You.

Austin Keitner, I'm serious, Stu. I want you to live in like, if you don't want to live here in New Toronto, maybe like just in Mimico or something. But, Austin Keitner, I'm serious, Stu. I want you to live in like if you don't want to live here in New Toronto maybe like just in Mimico or something but contact Austin Keitner. He'll hook you up. He's got lots of great properties in this hood. Text Toronto Mike to 59559. We talked about Pumpkins After Dark. I feel like you could play another

instrumental track underneath this. By the way, what is that jam we missed? Axloss? Yes. If you're going to give Pumpkins After Dark, maybe the Halloween theme. Let's get some Jim Johnson. Come on. No, wait. Okay.

Hold on. Stand by. I feel like I fucked up by not putting the Halloween theme. Yeah, that's John Carpenter. Let's do this one. And I'll just have it in the background. Samoan SWAT team. So no one picked this jam.

And they should have. That's shocking. This is an amazing instrumental track. Abomination. Yes. This is the best one. I don't understand. Would you have,

like, Cam, did you forget about it? I didn't think of it. I just didn't make my cut. No, I, when I was doing my research across my mind, I'm not a huge fan of this.

It's fine. It's not in my top five. This is a jam, man. But Stu, you never remembered this through all your research? I know the song, I just didn't,

I wasn't, I don't know. Try it all. I did try. I have five great songs. I wish't. I don't know. Did you try at all? I did try. I have five great songs. I wish this was one of them. Is this grunge? Yes.

This is definitely grunge. Yeah, this is definitely grunge. I'm surprised nobody's sampled this successfully to make a modern rap song. It's a bit of its era. Well, you add some modern production to it, but the hook. Why don't you do it? You're the rapper. I should, yeah.

Okay, who's the artist on the last? This is Harold. Foltmeyer. Foltmeyer. Yeah, who also did the Fletch theme song. Chevy Chase. Which is also another incredible instrumental. And who does dueling banjos aside from like inbred 12-year-old guys?

Couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. I'll have to Google that one. The kid at Walmart. The Walmart kid. The yodel-er. Wow. Okay, guys.

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And wait, special for Stu and I are going to be doing the Rogue Pumpkins After Dark the week before in Mary Curtis Park. We should merge these events. $5 a card load. September 18 at 6pm. I feel like I'm hard on Harry or whatever his name was and pump up the volume. September

18th, 6pm. Marie Curtis Park. What day of the week is that? It's Friday, I think. The Toronto side. What's your phone number? I don't roll on Shomer Shabbos. The first thing I did as I tweeted this date, and Mark Weisblatt wrote me and said,

I fucked up at the Jewish holiday. I'm so, I feel I need to subscribe to Jewish holidays like on Google calendars. 1236 is in there.

I keep screwing this up. I know. Well, it's not too late to change the date. But like half my fan base is of the Jewish holiday. I don't think

Hebzi is that strict. Yeah, not my kind of rabbi. And Peter Gross isn't strict. Is he Jewish, Peter Gross? Yeah. Oh, okay. Gross, Stone, come on.

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although Barb is delightful and I recommend it. CDNtechnologies.com. Got it. Are you ready? Yes. Yes, we are. To kick out the jams.

Yes. Is this Cam's jam? Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Finally. There you go. A little seasonal, though.

Yeah. No, this is a good one. Yeah. I know. I feel like it's Christmas. Does this song, like, put a little seasonal, though. Yeah. No, this is a good one. Yeah. I know. I feel like it's Christmas. This is something like put a smile on your face. Yeah. I like this.

This whole disc is good. This whole disc of the Charlie Brown stuff. So here's the question. Do you guys know who the artist is here? Vince Guaraldi. Charles Schultz. Well, I know just because I have these songs on my Christmas mixes when I have family over. This isn't a Christmas song.

Well, it's because of Christmas. Because of the Peanuts Christmas special, it is now a Christmas song. Right, Cam? I disagree. I would say it's associated with Christmas. I don't see it. 95, maybe 100% of people listening to this song are going to think of Christmas when they hear it. No.

Because of the Charlie Brown Christmas. I just thought of Snoopy. I didn't think of Christmas. But it's only from the Christmas special. I never knew the name of this song. What's it called? This is called Linus and Lucy. So I mean most of the listeners will probably recognize this from many Charlie Brown Christmas songs.

Big Hanukkah song. You know I'm a happy and proud atheist here. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank God. You really don't, even though I know you're, as we mentioned, you're Jewish, but you don't think of Christmas because of the Charlie Brown Christmas special, which gets awfully Jesus-y at the end.

Does it really? I don't think of... At the end, there's a whole Jesus speech. This is not a Christmas song. Yeah. It's definitely not a grunge song. I think it's, and I don't know, did he write it for the Christmas special? Well, here's, I'm going to tell you some facts.

I'm going to tell you. I think of it as a Christmas song. Why do I even do research? Like, I got a researcher on my phone. It's not a Christmas song. Anyway, name of the song, Linus and Lucy. Mike nailed it. Vince Giraldi trio from 1964.

Ooh. So this song is approaching 60 years old? 70 years old? Well, it's like 56 years old. Yeah, this is kind of the... There's the drop. So yeah, 56 years old. Amazing. So for those of you who don't know Vincent

Giraldi I came here to read my notes. So he's an American jazz pianist noted for his inventive... Vinnie G. Remember the Splashin' Boots penis? Pianist. We're not going to get into that.

Before he wrote this, he was actually already a Grammy Award winner. He had a song called... Chuck D says, who gives a fuck about a goddamn Grammy? Well, it was a different time. It was the early 60s. So he had a song called Cast Your Fate says, who gives a fuck about a goddamn Grammy? Well, it was a different time. It was the early 60s. So he had a song called Cast Your Fate to the Wind that won Best Original Jazz Composition.

That's a good one. I actually listened to it. It's a delightful little song. Christmas song. I almost picked it. But are you going to get to the fact that it's a Christmas song? Well, we're not going to get into that. But anyway, this is actually a B-side, if you can believe it.

The A-side was Let It Be. No, and the A-side was actually Oh Good Grief, which I can only assume was another... B-side wins again. That's a Sloan song, right? That's right. So I can only assume that was another Peanuts song. A few other things... Are you guys kidding, though? This is absolutely a Christmas song.

Do you want me to Google it? I don't think it's a Christmas song. Yeah, but it was written for the Charlie Brown Christmas special. It's a play during Christmas time stuff. That's only, they still play that damn special every year on television. That's how like beloved it is as a Christmas special. And again, I only celebrate like a Santa thing for the kids. Like I could give a fuck about Christmas. But this song is a Christmas song.

It's a nice attitude. I know. This song is a Christmas song. I was going to say, the album's called A Boy Named Charlie Brown. So yes, while it may have been featured in Peanuts Christmas. Am I the only one who saw Charlie Brown's Christmas? This is like an iconic Christmas special. Of course, I've seen it many times.

I'm like vaguely aware of it. Although many protest that it is not officially a Christmas song, I'm one of those. Stu's in that list. It has become a staple of the holidays because of the special. So we're both right. It's not a Christmas song, but it is a Christmas...

Can an FOTM edit that wiki page? Yeah, I think you can go either way. Yeah, get... I'm trying to think who. Andrew Ward. Who are you going to pick on? Andrew Ward? Why not?

Anyway, a few more... Dale Cadeau, because we know he's watching. I've got to do Cam's research for him now. Yeah, okay. I'm going to throw out a few more facts about Vince Giraldi, okay?

Go ahead, because that's a great song. They better be fun. So, did have a live album called Live at El Matador, which reminds me of Tito Santana in 1966. People who have covered him, it's quite an eclectic range of people. Everyone from the- Ben Folds?

Strangely, no. You had the James Gang, which is, of course, Joe Walsh. Joey Walsh Sarah McLachlan covered Vin Giraldi For her Christmas album Someone that almost made my list, Dave Brubeck Take 5

Maybe we'll be hearing something This is definitely not a fun fact Vince Giraldi actually died in 1976 At the young age of 47 See, I can see 47 From here, that seems really young to me of Vince Giraldi actually died in 1976 at the young age of 47. See, I can see 47 from here. That seems really young to me right now. Yeah, it sucks.

I don't want to die at 47. I have too many episodes to produce. How did you die? I didn't get there. You can Google it. If it's unwritten, that means it's suicide. Yeah, left us far too early. You think that's what it was? Well, whenever there's no cause of death at 47,

usually they take it. What's his name? Vince Giraldi. Vince Giraldi. Vince Giraldi. How did Vince... That's how my mom Googles. My mom is the most convoluted Googling sound. Is it Giraldi or is it Garanda? Giraldi. Like G-U-A-R G-U-A-R

My mom will be like, what's the name? Heart attack. Heart attack. Oh. But a heart attack at that young age. Maybe it's genetic or whatever. Yeah, speaking of heart attack and death, you'll probably count this down. Because Mark Weisblatt told me about this.

Singer Brighton Rock passed away. We'll probably talk about it next week when Mark Weisblatt's here. That's a great choice. I love that song. Yeah, it's fun. And it's great. But I do have to, not that I care, but that is a song that's tough to listen to in August. I feel that's a December song. Well, that's if you And it's great. But I do have to, not that I care, but that is a song that's tough to listen to

in August. I feel that's a December song. Well, that's if you think it's a Christmas song. I guess that's up for interpretation. Here's a song that you can listen to

in any season. Oh, good segue. Fucking hype song. I'm ready to go. Pull me in! Run through a wall for you, Stu. This is why I didn't pick Axl. I was too busy picking this.

Slip the jab, Rock. It's the commission. Sorry, I don't know what this is. This is the Rock. He doesn't watch movies. He doesn't watch movies. I think I've seen Rocky, though. He won an Academy Award, you know. It is different this week because there's no words in these songs,

so I can kind of fade any time. Yeah, I just want to get to that. Let's talk to me about this. I like that cool part where it goes, da-da-da. It's coming. No, I dig this. Okay, is it coming? It's such a good song.

This is... This is not the part. Bill Conti, Going the Distance. I would have chosen the more famous Gonna Fly Now. It's got words. It's got words. It's got words. So I knew that... Also used as a theme for City Pulse News. Oh, that's right. Going the Distance. This is the cool Oh, that's right. Going the distance.

This is the cool part, right? This is when Rocky wins. Yeah. Adrian! He just won the fight. So this is playing over him versus... He's doing the fight. Him versus Mr. T.

He's looking for Adrian, right? He's looking for Adrian? This is always the song that plays when he wins the fight. Okay. Oh, in all the movies? In all the movies. Okay. Fucking amazing. Yeah, and Gonna Fly all the movies? In all the movies. Okay. Fucking amazing.

Yeah, and Gonna Fly Now has words, but that's a great jam, too. Okay, so anyway, you know, some fun facts about Gonna Fly Now. It is the most recognizable song from Rocky is Gonna Fly Now. However, did you know that a cover song of that song came out before the movie and actually outsold the original version? Which is Maynard Ferguson was the one that was the City TV version. That's the City TV guy, Maynard Ferguson. That's actually right here, so there you go. Good for Cam. Not the guy from Tool.

Interestingly enough, Bill Conti would go on to compose all of the Karate Kid movies after Rocky. So he went from boxing to karate. We have covered this because we've covered almost everything on Pandemic Friday, but the big song at the end of the You're the Best by Joe Esposito

was written for Rocky III with Bill Conti. And they went with Survivor, Eye of the Tiger instead. We lost Bill Conti in the last two years. Oh, I didn't know that. Am I imagining that? I would hate to have to be cut out.

Am I like the official death checker? I don't know. But that song was also sampled by Puff Daddy and Biggie Smalls and the whole crew there. Oh, shit. Post-death release. Oh, Bad Boys. Bad Boys?

What was that crew called? It was Puff Daddy and the Family. The Family. The East Coast Family or whatever. So that was a Biggie Smalls post-death release that did very well as well that sampled that song. Am I looking up if Bill Conti's alive? Yeah.

Or if he's dead. We need some closure on that before I proceed with my first jam without words. It looks like he's still alive. I think he's alive because I'm all over it. Well, he actually may have died in a celebrity death hoax on Twitter. A hoax. So he's not dead.

He's alive. How old is he? Well, I can tell you. I feel Gord Martin-Owen. He's 78 years old. Ann Muraszkowski. Okay. Still alive.

You guys ready for my first jam? There are no words. You ready? Yes. By the way, Mike, I've told you that Ann Muraszkowski is one of my favorite. I feel like I said this every 10 episodes. I love it when you tell me that, though. You should just tell me that every episode. I think just because I've worked in that Ann Murkowski is one of my favorite. I feel like I said this. I love it when you tell me that. You should just tell me that every episode.

It's just, I think just because I've worked in PR for so long. It's almost as if she didn't know I was recording this. Yeah. Do you ever get that feeling? Like even at the end, because she does talk at the end and it's surprised that the episode hasn't ended yet.

Like it's almost like she thought it was a private conversation. Legit real talk. That's like, that's a big one in the Toronto Mike universe. Okay, here's my first jam. Thank you. This song, my friends, is from 1962 by Booker T and the MGs. One of the greatest bands of all time. And the song is good. They were like the, if you look up like the session musician crews,

they're ranked number one. Like they're on everything. Yeah. The song is called Green Onions. It's always interesting to think of like titling instrumentals because a lot of songs are named after lyrics in the song. Cam prefers Booker T and Stevie Ray. Well, yeah, Harlem.

Formerly like Kane and Cole. Yes. Wow. Love the wrestling talk. You know that. Harlem Heat. I've actually seen Booker T live. And I mean the musician Booker T.

I actually just pulled it up here. I was, summer of 2017, I was at Laura Quarry. He was actually doing Cannonballs. No, I was there with my daughter. We stayed in Kitchener that night. It happened to be the Kitchener Jazz Fest. Wow. Headliner that night, free concert, downtown Kitchener was Booker T and his band.

Wow. And they just played Green Onions over and over again. I'm looking literally here at a three on the Billboard 100. So it was a big hit. You might recognize it. Most people, I think, might recognize it from movie trailers. Yes. For sure. It is a popular song for movie trailers. Rolling Stone magazine put it ranked at number 181 on its list of the 500 greatest songs of all time and it's the only

instrumental song that made their top 500 really this is it for instrumental edgar winter didn't get on there no did not did not uh he did get a uh shout out a grammy no uh booker t and the mgs got a grammy hall of fame award in 1999 for Green Onions. And yeah, a lot of fun facts about it. I think they were incredible too. Look at Mike pulling up fun facts. I was going to say, they were also band... I feel like I didn't do my homework.

I'm nervous. Two black guys, two white guys in the 60s playing music together. And playing like on a shitload of albums. And Jimi Hendrix's band was white, right? I'm pretty sure. That came up on the Gilles Duceppe episode. If you do a deep dive on Little Richard. Yes.

He did the Magic School Bus. Yes. But Little Richard, Jimi Hendrix, and all these guys played with Little Richard before they did anything. James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Booker T probably. But Little Richard, he takes credit for all of it and he's probably rightfully so.

And who's the Miner Birds guy? Oh, Rick James. Rick James. Super Freak. Right, Super Freak fame. Mike, I feel like this concert came up last week.

Neil Young Exhibition Stadium in 1992 with Pearl Jam and Soundgarden. I was there, yeah. We talked about it. And who was Neil Young's backing band for that? Was it Crazy Horse? No, it was Booker T and the MGs. Oh, my God. Oh, that's awesome.

See, I love these fun facts. I guess I've seen them a lot. You've seen them too. Wow. Perfect. Okay. That's awesome. And let's see how...

Booker boys. Yeah, baby. Let's see what... You know, you do realize, unlike the Yacht Rock and the Grunge episodes we did recently, it's difficult to screw this topic up because as long as there's no words in the fucking song...

Well, if someone plays tequila, we could have a... Right. Well, what if there's like chanting or just like... When we hear it, we'll talk about it. But let's kick out Cam Gordon's... This better not be Enigma Sadness.

about it, but let's kick out Cam Gordon's. This better not be Enigma Sadness. Oh, this is a great one. See, we're going to play a little bit, and then I'll tell you why. I almost thought this was Young and the Restless, but then I realized it was Uncle Kenny. Yeah, well, let me play a bit, and we'll talk about it, because for my

taste, this is like torture. I really think this is terrible. How old are you, Stu? Old enough to know a nice Jewish saxophone player when I hear one. Mike, let it wash over you. Alright. Soak up the vibes.

It does feel like a spa or something. A grocery store. This is like the epitome of like mid-80s sleaze. Okay, now before you say a word, Cam, look at my eyes because you have beautiful eyes. Sure. Right? Ready? Yeah. Do you really like this song? I do.

No, I'm talking to Cam. Yeah, I like it. I would say I like it better than Axl. This is one of your five favorite instrumental songs of all time. It's pretty fucking weak, man. That was not the topic. I'm on Team James Edgar. That was not the topic.

Well, what was the topic? Instrumentals. No. There are no words. It's inferred that you're picking your five favorite of the always. I like this song. Yeah.

But you would put this on in your car? You know, I pulled up today blasting Kenny Loggins hard to heart. Kenny Loggins is fucking Metallica compared to this. That might be the funniest

thing you've said in 2020. Okay. Do you guys want to hear the Canadian angle on Kenny G? Yes, please. Is his name like Kenny Goldstein or something? Gilbert.

No. Should I look it up? No, his mother. Where was Kenny G's mother born? Canada. Saskatchewan. Oh, that's pretty cool. Is that in Canada?

The great province of Saskatchewan. Moose Jaw. Moose Jaw. He's actually from Seattle, though. I never knew where he was from. He's a grunge rocker. Yes. He thinks he's fucking grunge.

So, anyway, this song is called Songbird from 1987. It's called Snoring. I'm putting me to sleep. Kenny Gorlick. Kenny Gorlick. Good Jewish boy. Can I interrupt? I have a question.

Because does it matter? Like, do you prefer, if you find out an artist is of the same faith as you, does it give them bonus points? Like, you like them more? I mean mean if you're adam sandler doing a song it helps well it works for me for canadians like if i hear a song and it's like that's all right and then they say oh yeah that guy's from toronto i like it more all of a sudden what about like that like athletes like oh jamal murray you know proud canadian mommy sings 42s right yeah no doubt i like jamal for sure i like him more because because he's Canadian. Like, for sure. For sure.

But I'm wondering if it would work for religion. Like, when you find, like, you're a big Hank Greenberg fan. Yes. Hammer and Hank. I remember. Sean Green. There's also, like, so few Jewish baseball players that you have to sort of embrace. Like, Sandy Koufax.

Come on. Right. Who wouldn't pitch on the Yom Kippur? He would not be at your TMLX event. No, I wouldn't have picked the Jewish holiday if I had no one. I feel stupid. Like, I'm going to subscribe to the Google Calendar. But it's not too late to change the date.

Well, isn't it? Because I've kind of been tweeting about it for like a week now. But I only found out. You're racist, but that's cool. It's not racist. Sorry, anti-Semitic. No, of course not. Look at Bernie Farber.

I'm offended you even joked about that. Okay, of course not. Get Bernie Farber. I'm offended you even... Okay, two more fun facts about Kenny G here. Do you guys know a song called Going Home? Going Home. It's a Mark Harmon... Stealing Home is a Mark Harmon movie. Okay, so you guys don't know what it is. So apparently Kenny G is very big in China.

Yes. So anytime... China. Like David Hasselhoff is in Germany. Correct. So anytime his song Going Home is played, it's similar to how CTV goes off the air and they play the national anthem.

I've read this. It's the universal closing music. I read about this. So if you're in a shopping mall and you're doing your business and then Going Home plays. You hear the song and it means it's time to go home. What song is that? That's about this. So if you're in a shopping mall and you're doing your business and then going home. You hear the song and it means it's time to go home. What song is that? That's not this.

No, no. But it's a song from 1989. It's similar to this. The B-side? That is a great fun fact you reminded me of. I read this whole Reddit thread about it. And yeah, they play it. It signifies that time to go home.

They play it at the end of the workday and all that. And it's called Going Home. So one more. Don't worry, the mics can't be turned on. Ignore those children. I don't know. Because you know what? We recorded early, so we didn't get this to be on during their bedtime.

So one more fun fact about Kenny G. He's actually a really good golfer. And has a handicap of plus an app. Is he better than Alice Cooper? Well, in the Golf Digest rankings of top 100 golfers in music, he finished number one in 2006, number two in 2008. Guess who was first? Michael Jordan?

You guys are not going to get this. It was Rudy Gatlin of the Gatlin Boys. Rudy! There was actually three... You could have given me a million guesses. You know the Gatlin Boys, Gatlin Brothers? They're referenced in the Kenny Rogers songs, right? It's like Coward of the County.

Here come them Gatlin Boys. Yeah, the Gatlin Boys are in there. That's like the bad guys on the Dukes of Hazzard. Yeah. So yeah, there's three Gatlin Boys in the top 10. Alice Cooper was number 11. Not bad. Since 2008.

What about Gil Moore? Is he on there from Triumph? Wait, wait for it. Anne Murray was number 11. Not bad. Since 2008. What about Gil Moore? Is he on there from Triumph? Wait, wait for it. Anne Murray was number 49. Member at the Thornhill Ladies Golf Club, by the way. Is she really? Roger Waters, speaking of. Roger Rick and Marilyn?

Someone who maybe is not as big a Kenny G fan for obvious reasons. Marilyn Dennis has eluded me for eight years. Yeah, Celine Dion was number 79. She's a golfer? She looks too frail. And you know what her home course was? Was the Trump International Golf Course by Mara Lago.

Flea was number 89. Flea's a golfer. I can see that. He's got that good timing. Coming in just in the top 196 was actually Gino Vanelli. No, I'm just kidding. Anyway, that's Golf Digest. Golf. Yeah, so Kenny G.

For your love. Maybe Kenny Golf. The G stands for golf. I like it. There you go. You know, I think that song is, I honestly know, it's all subjective, right? It's all subjective. One man's treasure is another man's trash.

I think that Kenny G song is awful. I think that to me is like something you'd hear in a supermarket. Muzak. It sounds like Muzak to my ears. Makes you want to go home and just leave so you don't have to listen to it. It's not on my playlist, but I don't get upset if it came on in this context. I mean, I'm not to define upset. I'm not going to edit this out or anything.

It reminds me a lot of Moments of Love by Art of Noise that we heard recently, but not as cool, I don't think. No, not as fucking cool. Are you kidding me? Art of Noise was cool. Watch your language yourself. Yeah, I don't think. No, not as fucking cool. Are you kidding me? Art of Noise was cool. Kids with an ear shot. This is why we shouldn't record so early. Are you ready for Stu Stone's second jam?

Yes. Yes. There's no way Cam's gonna get this. Beautiful stuff. This is actually... Samuel Barber. I want to pronounce this correctly, but Adagio for strings. Sounds good to me. You said Sammy Cone? Samuel Barber.

This is actually known as the saddest song ever written. This is actually known as the saddest song ever written. And the reason why, you may ask, is because this is a song traditionally, since the 1950s or 60s, I would say, that this is a song that they broadcast over the radio at the announcement of FDR's death. This is the song that was broadcast on television at the announcement of John F. Kennedy's death. This was played at the funeral of Albert Einstein, played at the funeral of Princess Grace of Monaco,

performed at Royal Albert Hall to honor the memory of the victims of September 11th, played at the 2010 Winter Olympics opening ceremony in Vancouver because of the fatal crash of... Oh, right. Belarusian... Yeah. I can't pronounce the name, but it is sad. Yeah, I remember that.

And, of course, most recently played at the funeral of Canadian Jack Layton. Oh, my goodness. He passed away. Known as the saddest song ever written. Also, very powerful song from the film Platoon. Oliver Stone movie. The second time a Platoon song has come up during pandemic Fridays. Also sampled by Puff Daddy, just like my last selection.

This is the... Here's the theme. This is the selection that opens the song, I'll Be Missing You, which was the tribute song to Puff Daddy. Was that the police? That turns into a police song, but'll Be Missing You, which was the tribute song to Puff Daddy. Was that the police? That turns into a police song, but it opens with this piece. Definitely the police. Okay.

Okay, so many things there. Did you know Jeff Merrick used to date Jack Layton's daughter? I didn't. No. Wow. I used to go to camp with Jack Layton's son. We'll see how we're all connected, brother. Wow.

How'd it go? You know what's kind of crazy about this song is that it sounds like it's some 1800s symphony song, but it is actually from the last century. It was recorded and performed in 1938, which is a long time ago. That's when it was first performed? Yes.

Okay. And it turned into a huge sort of powerful... Think about it, though. You know and love somebody who was alive at that time. Yeah. And, Stu, do you know, in your research, does it say why this became kind of the de facto song of death, for lack of a better term?

I can tell you that the reception that it received was generally positive, but a very famous critic of the times, Alexander Morin, wrote that this song is full of cathartic passion and rarely leaves a dry eye. Music, it's the setting for Barber's 1967 choral arrangement. Okay, so all I see is a waveform, and I can tell you right about now, it's about to get bigger.

It's really, when you just kind of close your eyes and think it's sort of a reflective piece. Okay, let's take a moment to close your eyes and think about shit. © BF-WATCH TV 2021 They just don't make them like this anymore, do they? I'm like, I'm welling up. If music can touch you like that and make you feel. Like, yeah, this has been written about instrumental. It's harder to write instrumental music that's really kind of touches your soul.

But if you can do it, it's more impactful than stuff with lyrics. Is that how it ends? No. Oh, I was going to say that's a pretty... It's still around. Here's the drop. So yeah, Platoon,

of course, you know that movie. I've heard of it, yeah. You should check it out. Tom Berringer. Yeah, and Charlie Sheen. Spoiler, this song plays during... Willem Dafoe, right?

Some death takes place during this song. Spoiler. Yeah, absolutely. Big time movie. The big Oliver Stone breakthrough, right? It was a big deal. That is a breakthrough movie? I feel like that was his breakthrough. I don't know, because I was a kid.

It felt like that was the first time I learned who the hell Oliver Stone was. I feel like that and Full Metal Jacket. But that's not, it's Kubrick. Also I haven't seen. That's Kubrick though. So if you listen to the Biggie I'll Be Missing You song, that's what I'm saying. This opens up this sort of is like the funeral for Biggie kind of song.

Stu, you've touched me today. Wow. Day's not over yet. How about that? The 18th and Marie Curtis Park touching. Yeah, we can touch each other with our song.

Right? Very touching song. Sure. But yeah, this was a great choice. I'm sorry to bring the move down. Way better than Kenny G.

Way better than Kenny G. That's a good choice there. Okay, now I have something completely different. This better be a Christmas song. But I don't feel like trampling over

You can Adagio Go for it man Alright You ready? Yeah And Seven o'clock on the hour

Stupid Joke of the Day Coming up on the 40s. This is an instrumental song? There's no words to this song? I'm shocked. Sorry, what? I don't know this one. This is the Allman Brothers?

This is the Allman Brothers. I always thought there's words here. As far as I know, there's no words. It's a great song. It's a great song. I kind of like the Snoopy song. I think I'm on a winning streak. Like, I went five for five in the Yacht Rock app, and I went five for five on the Grunge,

and I feel like I'm going to kick some ass tonight. What's this song called? Jessica. You don't know this song? Never heard of commercials. Did you ever listen to, like, Q107? Yeah. It's kind of like a Snoopy vibe, though.

It's playful. So, this is from 1973. Edgar Winter? This is... Is someone going to play Frankenstein cheese? No. This was the follow-up single to the very popular Ramblin' Man, which was maybe Allman Brothers' biggest hit.

But yeah, I always like this song. Seems like a driving song. It's a song you listen to all the time. Yes, it is a driving song. I guess something you don't do often, so that's probably why you don't know it. Every time he shows up, he's differently abled for a period of time. That's right, yeah. I need one of those stickers.

So this did not, like it didn't, here, I'm trying to see here. Oh, yes, it did actually hit number 65 on the Hot 100. Okay, solid. And it is a staple of classic rock radio. I'm shocked you don't know this song. Honestly, this does not even remotely familiar, which is weird.

I think Mike's been on fire ever since his Wendell Clark disaster. You know why? Because I said to myself I'm not going to disappoint again. I really took that hard. I didn't sleep that night. Did not sleep that night.

And I vowed to kick it up a notch. Like, these are very serious. A lot of people tuning in. She's talking to you. Even Morgan's digging the vibes here. Oh, and she's gone. I heard Mommy in the distance say, don't bother them. Because we're working here, right, guys?

Character of the morning. Yeah, pretty much. It was featured in Field of Dreams. me in the distance say, don't bother them. Because we're working here, right guys? Dare to join the mooring. Yeah, pretty much. It was featured in Field of Dreams. Did you hear about the Morgans? Speaking of Morgans. Some car commercial recently. Like an Enterprise rental car commercial. The movie Fear. And a movie

and Lassie. Did they remake that? I guess they remade that. A few times. This is the song that Timmy was jamming to in the well. And Lassie. Oh. Did they remake that? I guess they remade that. A few times. A few times. This is the song that Timmy was jamming to in The Well. Oh, my goodness. Absolutely. In The Simpsons, right?

That was Sting. Because Sting helped dig him out, as I recall. Speaking of... Sting. So it all comes back. Because Sting wrote the song that... Sting, are you talking about professional wrestlers, Sting? I'm never talking about professional wrestlers, Sting.

The guy who slammed Big Ben Beater? I'm talking about Gordon Sumner. Ah. So Cam Gordon Sumner. I'm talking about professional wrestlers, Sting? I'm never talking about professional wrestlers. The guy who slammed Big Ben Beatle? I'm talking about Gordon Sumner. Ah. So Cam Gordon Sumner. I'm talking about Steve Borden. Steve Borden, that's right. But Sting did dig out Timmy in the well, and he does have the song Every Breath You Take from The Police.

Which was sampled in the Puff Daddy song that I just used. Which was sampled in the Puff Daddy song. Here's a question for Stu. Yes. Sting the wrestler. Yes. Like the original Bleach. What was his...

I never really understood what his gimmick was. Well, he used to be in the tag team with him and the Warrior. Right. And they were just sort of like supposed to be like... Muscled. Futuristic guys from like Mad Max. You know, sort of playing off like the Road Warriors were like Mad Max kind of guys, right? Did they wear like...

They had... They were called like Blade and Steel or something. Okay. Whatever, they were Blade and Sting. Then he sort of just turned into like a California kind of handsome. Like surfer dude. Surfer dude. And I think like he had like this spiky hair that sort of matched Sting from the police.

Okay, yeah. A bit of a Billy Idol vibe. Yes. Too, okay. But just a nicer smile, like, you know, he didn't have a snarl. Yeah, he's always baby. Goo Goo Gaga. Was Crow

Sting ever bad? He was mysterious. Yeah. He hung out in the rafters. He did. I love this guy. There was NWO Sting, but he wasn't real Sting. NWO Sting. That wasn't really Sting. Was that like under Fake Undertaker? Yes. Under Faker.

Here's a band I always think... When I hear about this band, I think of this band. I think Cam Gordon would like these guys. Are you a big They Might Be Giants fan? No. I have you pegged wrong. It's like two... It's a...

Mike Bechelow's a big fan of them. It's a good guess. They're just like too cutesy for me. So they did a cover version of this song, and it was released on their 1993 EP, Why Does the Sun Shine? Okay. And in parentheses, of course,

the sun is a mass of incandescent gas. I feel like they're, for people who are like, the violent femmes are too edgy. So they just seem like nerds, like real fucking nerds. I do like a few of their songs, but... Get a couple of brewskis in them and the swear words start coming. They might be jealous.

Swear away, man. This is a... I marked it as explicit on iTunes. Is there any Enya picked by anybody? Why do you want spoilers? Don't you want to find out? I don't know if she does instrumental stuff. Yeah, wait.

She goes, sail away, sail away. Not that song. That's not that song. I was singing that. Only time. She has more than one. She has more than one song. You mean the Fugees sampled their best song?

That Ready or Not by the Fugees? You know that song? Yeah. Of course I know. It's from the score. So that samples Enya. Does it really? Yeah.

Really? Like. The chorus I know is from the score. So that samples in you. Does it really? Yeah. Like. Champagne. Do that again.

Yeah. It's Apache, right? That's Apache. Chill. Chill. Chill. No spoiler alert. Now, of course, I did.

Maybe I'll truncate it. That's fantastic. Why do I not know this song? I'm disappointed. I'm disgusted by myself in general that I don't know them. I am surprised. These are all great songs. I don't know that many Allman Brothers songs, to be honest. I haven't done a deep dive in their catalog.

But this song I've always known for decades, and this one in Ramblin' Man, there's certain Allman Brothers songs that are staples of classic rock. This song is a Q107 staple. What are their five biggest... Are they whipping posts? Lord I was born a random man

I get them in Leonard Skinner Skinner and I actually have done a little deeper dive All of it is more like a jam band Like Grateful Dead era type of Fish? Well yeah but I'm talking about the era When Allman Brothers were popular And then like other splinter

Like Government Mule Dwayne Allman brothers were popular. And then like other splinter like government mural and all that shit. Dwayne Allman was the main guy. Greg Allman was a cool dude. He was married to Cher. Yeah, you mentioned that. I just heard that. He used to show up at

WCW matches all the time. Greg Allman. They would show him on camera. So Dickie Betts is the other guy. So you got Dwayne Allman and Greg Allman, of course. And then Dickie Betts, Barry Oakley, Butch Trucks. I think his kid is the other Derek Trucks. Derek Trucks, yeah. Jive, I don't even know this guy, Jemmo Johnson.

I don't know about drums. And yeah. Jive Bunny and the Master Mixers. Right, everybody. Yeah. Whipping Post, yeah. Whipping Post is Allman Brothers. Speaking of people's sons, you saw Justin Earl, Steve Earl's son.

Yes, I saw that. Justin Towns. Yeah. Justin Towns Earl. Yeah. Too bad. He had some addiction issues. Sad stuff.

Absolutely sad shit. Great. We should have talked about that during the Platoon song that Stu Stone picked. Very sad. Are you ready for Cam Gordon's third song with no words? There are no words. Here we go. There's no music either.

That was a great jam. Is it the sound of silence? Technically no. Ah. But there is words in this song. Listen closely so we can make fun of Cam. I love this, too. See?

Stu, you're thinking of the songs that sampled this. Yeah, yeah. Which is a million. In fact, I hope you name every song that sampled this song. Jump on it. Jump on it, right? Jump on it, right? Which I was doing like 10 minutes ago.

I almost wonder if that version would be problematic by today's, because they're Tonto. You know, it's. Yeah, but that was the name of like the breakers that they were calling out yeah i know it's just different times anyway this is their name you're allowed to do it so this is apache so this song's been covered by a number of artists this is the perhaps the signature version although people in england might argue it by the incredible bongo band um this version also is is someone known as the

official national anthem of hip-hop because it's been sampled so many times so perhaps that the most um popular other version was actually by the shadows according to wikipedia why do i know that name because stew kicked out sleepwalking did you not yeah i did yeah so i was like an instrumental song from like is there a member did a member of pearl jam come out of the shadows like mike mccready or something like that or am i dreaming definitely not okay i'll look at what band i'm thinking i'll keep going yeah so um again a little bit about the incredible bongo band so this was really i wouldn't say it was like a one man band, but it was a guy named Michael Viner who created this project. Michael Viner,

similar to Vincent Giraldi was doing a lot of music for soundtracks and whatnot. And he needed some music that had kind of a percussive beat and he put some things together. I mean, he had some music for a B film called the thing with two heads. So just Mike McCready's band was called Shadow. Shadow. Just a coincidence. I'm not wrong.

So another Mike though, not Mike Boone or Mike McCready, Michael Viner is putting together some music for something called The Thing With Two Heads. The band's output consisted of upbeat, funky, and instrumental music. Many tracks were covered. Popular songs of the day characterize their prominence.

This is the drop right here. Like, live jazz. Okay. This jam is amplified, so just... Everything. You could do every rap song over this.

Absolutely that song. So sick. There's a lot of Big Daddy Kane. There's a lot of stuff. Eric B. and Rakim. This is so sick. Isn't that unbelievable? Like, how many songs

are now flooding your head? The breakdancing version was in Kicking It Old School, which is a lesser-known Stu Stone film. What's it called? Kicking It Old School. Yeah, I'm going to watch

with Kareem on the weekend. Excellent choice, Cam. You're redeeming yourself. So the version Stu was referring to was also a very famous version by the Sugar Hill Gang that had kind of the jump on it. Yeah, jump on it.

Jump on it. Tonto, that whole thing. Yeah, some of the artists that have sampled this, this is a small number. Yeah. Okay, just get comfortable. Just burn it, yeah.

Okay, so we got Boogie Down Productions. We got Young MC. We got MC Hammer. We got Vanilla Ice. We got CNC Music Factory in the song Things That Make You Go. Yeah. For sure. Things That Make You Go.

We've got MIA. We've got Nas in the song Make You Look. We've got Amy Winehouse in My Bed. Made You Look. Yeah. We got DJ Shadow. We got TLC. We got Steinsky.

We got The Roots. We got Ariel Pink. we have Rage Against the Machine and their cover of Renegades of Punk right drop a bit of this and then most recently and even this is 10 years ago That's My Bee just say That's My Bee by Jay-Z and Kanye

from Watch the Throne right yeah have you guys seen there's a whole documentary about this it's called sample this i think i've seen it's short right like 15 minutes or so it's like a full-length documentary about the making of this version of apache by the incredible bongo band and kind of the origin story just sort of the where this song traveled wow throughout the 70s 80 80s, 90s, 2000s. Yeah, just mind-blowing stuff. And to think you had

originally a different song in the spot that this one took. Yeah, should I tell Stu what it is? Yeah, tell him. Can you just play like a minute after this? Don't touch us. That'd be like sacrilege. Alright, so I'm going to Twitter and I'm going to go to my DMs. My DMs are open, everybody.

So Stu, I think Stu will be amused yet disgusted All right, so I'm going to Twitter, and I'm going to go to my DMs. My DMs are open, everybody. DM me. So, Stu, I think Stu will be amused yet disgusted that I didn't have Apache by the Incredible Bongo, but I almost had this song instead. Oh, yeah, but you did hype it up a tiny bit early. Hold on here. Here we are. This is the song that cam wanted originally you talk about the saddest song of all i mean like oh my god it's like demonic but then like demonic clown noises is this an instrumental like if you think about

it so this is the theme song for doink the Clown. Evil Doink. Evil Doink from WWF. When was Doink? Like 93 probably. So Doink was kind of like a real sort of trailblazer in the creepy clown genre. Matt Bourne. Yeah, would kind of like snap and obviously get angry. And then he'd be like playing with kids.

And then he'd like play a mean trick. Like a lot of popping balloons in kids' faces. Is this a bonus entry? No, this was on my original list. I'm a huge Doink fan, by the way. The Doink and Mountie were probably your two faves. Yeah. Hey, Stu, do you want on Monday at like 8am

do you want to zoom into the Humble and Fred show? Monday at 8am? No. Yes. I don't know. Monday at 8 a.m. That sounds delightful. Is that a yes?

Because Brian Hayes was going to be on and he just dropped out. But I'm going to be camping, so I need to set somebody I can trust up to just show up on Zoom and be awesome. And you're the man. What am I going to talk about? Pandemic Fridays? Yeah. What do you mean? What are you going to talk about? You could talk about a million things.

You could just talk about Bob Saget for the whole 10 minutes. I did that last time I was on with you. They won't remember. Oh, okay. Anyways, we'll talk offline. But here, you ready for Stu Stone's third jam? There are no words. Here we go. Are you familiar with this one, Kim?

This one, I know. It's not from 2001 A Space Odyssey. Although someone should have picked that. That was on my short list. I think that we could do part two, three, four of this subject. We could start doing sequels to some of the topics because it's been enough time. But first we have to kick out the FOTM jam.

Ladies and gentlemen, from the film Revenge of the Nerds, Lamar, I believe, is like throwing the javelin. The wobbly. The wobbly javelin you know he rapes that woman in Revenge of the Nerds because she doesn't know it's him

Lamar doesn't no no what's the character's name I don't think he was Lamar of that not Lamar Gilbert or Lewis yeah Lewis

I would say that whole movie is not age well no it did not age well at all because she doesn't know it's him in there

yeah how could you not tell the difference between Gilbert and Stan Gable? Like they're completely different bodies and completely different dicks. That's a different tongue. It was dark.

Chariots of Fire. Vangelis. How do you know they're completely different dicks? They could be similar. Stunt dicks. Chariots of Fire. Chariots of Fire. Instrumental theme. Originally, the song was released called Titles because it played on the title sequence of Chariots of Fire.

And on the soundtrack, the song was just listed as Titles. So, interestingly enough, this song actually charted. It became such a popular song from Chariots of Fire, which is sort of a forgettable movie if you think about it. I mean, everybody remembers this song and the iconic running race to it, but do they really remember what the movie was about? No, they're on the beach or something.

It's a bunch of old British guys, right? Running on a beach. You know what? I did not remember what the movie was about, and I had to look it up, and I was quite shocked to learn that it's a story of two runners that are running. A British and Israeli.

Yeah, like a Jewish guy and a Catholic guy are running sort of as a way to sort of stand up against injustice. Interesting plot, but I guess I'll have to revisit the movie. You don't have to. No, I would love, you know, it sounds like something I would like.

This song actually went to number one. Wow. On the Billboard Hot 100 in May of 1982 after climbing steadily for five months. Wow. To date. Wow. It remains the only piece by a Greek artist to top the U.S. charts. Wow.

That's not true. Are they not counting George Michael? Oh, stop. George Michael's not. He's not. He's not... Isn't he Persian? He's Greek. Are you sure about that? Yes. According to the Iron Sheik, he's not. Well, Michael's a fake name. It says fake as stone.

Here's a question for you. What genre would you say this is? Is this like modern classical? What is this? Is that a genre? I don't know. It's grunge, I think. No, come on. Stu, is this Yacht Rock? I guess he was Greek.

Maybe he never went to number one. Well, maybe because he's British. His parents are Greek. So someone is actually from Greece. He's a Greek descent. Is it possible that George Michael never had a number one song? No, that's not possible. There was something George Michael did that went to number one for sure.

You don't think Faith went to number one? I think he did. Or Father Figure? I think all of it did. All of it. I think that whole album, everything on that album went to number one. Freedom 90? Oh, my God.

I don't know if that went to number one. But, yeah. Anyway, I know he's a Greek. It's a real fucking big deal. Honestly, we lost him on Christmas Day. I remember being at the, I think we talked about, like, table with my sister. I was like, George Michael's fucking dead.

Yeah. What the hell? And how many grade school dances did we, Careless Whisper, get played in? The Chariots of Fire song, by the way, went to number one in the United States. It was number one on the Hot AC chart, number one on the Hot 100.

It was number four in Canada. Okay, really? I love that track. one on the Hot 100. It was number four in Canada. Four in Canada. I love that track. No, it's iconic. It's great. It's iconic. And even if you haven't seen the movie, you know what that song's from.

Totally. So you're telling me there's no number one hits for Nana Muscuri. I'm just going by what I learned. No, I know. The actual quote says, and to date, remains the only piece by a Greek artist

to top the US charts. Because George Michael's technically British. He's not Greek. That's why he's not qualified for sure. It doesn't say Greek descent. Spray some Windex on it. That's a good choice there. Much like a piece by Soul Asylum.

It's not a grunge song. Oh, we'll get to that. Oh. We'll get to that. Wow, okay. Are you ready for my third jam with no words? Yeah, go for it.

Oh. Okay. Wow, I just love this. Some killer tunes. It's cool, man. It's actually from 1959. Is it called Two Step or something? no, Take Five

I love this song for some reason it reminds me of Van Morrison or something yeah yeah, Moondance there's a Moondance thing thing, but moon dance comes much later. Can't go wrong with this song. I feel like Dave Brubeck is not the most well-liked in jazz circles.

From the more, quote-unquote, serious players. I think you're right. I think he's like... Jazz for squares. A true jazz artist. And, you know, I produce a podcast for Ralph and Murgy, so I feel I can speak to this. I don't think the hardcore beatniks were, like, grooving out to Dave Brubeck.

But this is, like, fantastic. How could you not like this? This is the... It's become a jazz standard. It was actually composed by Brubeck's longtime musical partner, alto saxophonist, not Kenny G, but Paul Desmond. And it was on his album, Time Out. And yeah, it's... This seems like

something FOTM James B would be a signature song at every cocktail party. James B, who is the only FOTM to play a Lollapalooza? Is that correct? I don't know if you saw, I actually did a little crowdsource who were all the Canadian artists.

There was actually quite a few. Gilles LeBlanc held me out with it. If someone in the chat room is requesting Mars pump up the volume, that wouldn't qualify because the words pump up the volume are fucking in the song, man. And dance, dance. Isn't that interesting? This guy's always on my ass.

Who's that guy? Always on my ass about stuff and he makes that kind of suggestion. Get the hell out of here. Brother Neil, this words didn't pump up the volume. Come on. No words allowed. We can't be clearer about this.

There are no words. And it doesn't have to be English words either. It can't be words of any language. And he's also suggesting Us Three Cantaloupe. That has words too. There's a little rap in it. Is this guy not honest? We've been like,

Like, that's words. Come on, man. Billy Bebop would be debatable. That's not grunge. That's debatable. But there are words in it. Is this guy not We've been like Billy B-Bop. Like that's words. Come on man. Billy B-Bop would be debatable. That's not grunge. That's debatable but there are words in say it again.

Billy B-Bop. You think that's a word? But there's also a rap in that song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's a lot of words in Cantaloupe. Well, there's multiple

versions of Cantaloupe. Well, like the popular one that was on the radio had lyrics. Flip Trip Fantasia. Yeah, Chip Chip Fantasia or whatever. Yeah, absolutely.

He's going to tell us to play Lucas with the lid off? Come on, man. Remember we listened to the original version of Enigma Return to Innocence? The drinking song or whatever? Yes. Elder's drinking song? Is that an instrumental?

All right. Those are words in a different language. Yeah, I don't think I'd qualify. We would have a debate. I feel like that might be okay because I said words. I feel like it's like no voices. I never said no vocals. I said no words.

There are no words. We'd have a great debate over that. Kamala's theme song would be fine then. Oh, let me see how take five did in the charts here. Hold on. I'm curious. Coming in at number one, Take 5.

The third week in a row. Coming up next, Mars. Pump up the volume. And Cantaloupe by Us 3. Those are just samples. It's the biggest selling jazz single ever. Yes, as it should be. Holy shnikes.

And it's been in numerous, as you know, numerous movie and television soundtrack. Has it ever been in like a Woody Allen movie or something? Sounds like it should be. And it still gets significant radio play. And the single was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1996. I always like this song because it's like really chill, but it's a little unsettling too.

Like the drums are just just wild on it. Brother Neil is now requesting Axel F's. We already played that song. This guy is just over three. Where is this happening? Is this happening on the Periscope? He's over three. He's over three.

Go home, man. You're drunk. I sometimes feel bad I don't look at the Periscope at real time. You might have to step in here. This is a great song, man. And whenever I see my buddy Eli, who's a great pianist,

I love when he jams to this song. It's great. You want to hear a fun fact? I like this. Upon his death in 1977, the songwriter Desmond, who I referred to earlier,

he left... You ready for this? He left the performance royalties for this song to the American Red Cross. So ever since 1977, all the royalties, which averages over $100,000 a year

for this song alone, are going to the American Red Cross. Wow. There's more royalties coming up in a later discussion. Spoiler alert. But not from this podcast because I don't pay royalties. Was that you, Mike, or was that Stu, that choice? That was me.

That was good. I'm on board. Can we just take a moment? It's great. Whoever chose. I like your choice. Can we take a moment? Since Hero of the Day,

a Metallica song, which I love, from a YouTube compilation that celebrates the heart of Wendell Clark. I want to take responsibility for this, because had I not been so hard on you with tough love, then maybe you wouldn't have

turned the corner. You would have just gotten away with your shenanigans and your bullshit because nobody would have called you on your nonsense like I did. And Cam jumped on the train as well. Mike, we didn't want to tell you, but actually, Ben Merge texted us and Peter Gross called Stu the day after. He was like, what the fuck's going on over at TMDS? We were going to have an intervention.

Did you hear from Fred Patterson? It's from love. It came from love. Anyway, you've really turned it around. You have. There's a new podcast coming to the TMDS family. Should I tease it? Is it Noreen Virgin? It is a woman.

Noreen Virgin would be great. I'd love to listen to that. Is this Joanne McLeod? No, but we talk about Hal Johnson a lot on the sports media. We talk about it Johnson a lot on the sports media. Get sassy with sassy. We talk about it with Hebsey on the sports media. Is it getting sassy with sass? I love sassy.

Get naked with Biff? I was just going to say. No, but it is a longtime CTV Toronto person. Oh, I know who it is. That's all I'm going to say. Mutual friend. Deanie Petty? Actually, imagine like sassy.

Not Deanie Petty. You know what? Me and Deanie had a long, long conversation about me producing her podcast. That happened. Does she have a podcast? No. I was going to produce it for her.

That happened. There'd be an audience for that. I tried so hard because I said, yeah. I said, you know. Anyway, I did my best and it didn't happen. Okay. Are you ready, my friends, for Cam Gordon's fourth jam? Yeah, number four.

Wow. Okay. And here it is. The song I accused Cam of picking this topic just so he could play. In part. In part. Yacht Rock Roots. yacht rock roots yeah there's some crossover there yeah okay so this is Winter Games by David Foster. Obviously, came in...

Not to be confused with David Faustino. Yeah. Or George Foster. Oh, David... Did David Faustino ever do anything after... He rapped. He had a rap career. Was that Bud Bundy?

Yeah, Bud Bundy. Well, he had a rap career in the character. The character. Remember, he became a rapper. I can't remember what they called him, but... Anyway, sorry, Cam. Go ahead. Remember, he became a rapper. I can't remember what they called him. Anyway, sorry, Cam. Go ahead. Anyway, the theme for the 1988 Winter Olympics in Calgary.

Did you guys watch a lot of this? I did. I watched a lot. I remember. When did you discover the Olympics? I discovered the Olympics in 1984. So, in 1984, I watched us dominate because I didn't realize that we were dominating because the Eastern Bloc countries and Russia boycotted. But I watched the LA Games in 1984

like a lot of it and I fell in love with the Olympics. I would say 88 actually, the Summer Olympics in 88, Ben Johnson and then the Winter Olympics you had this song. Elizabeth Manley. It was in Calgary that year. I was going to say, yeah, being in

Calgary. We had an assignment at school year. I was going to say, yeah, being in Calgary, we had an assignment at school where we had to actually cut up the newspaper, make a scrapbook every day you needed an entry for the 16 days. So yeah,

some of the Canadian talent. Gaetan Boucher, am I misremembering? Well, it seems like the two big ones were Brian Orser and Elizabeth Manley. Yes,

they were the big ones. They both won silver medals. Yeah. But some great human interest stories. This was the Olympics of the Jamaican. Oh, Eddie the Eagle. were the big ones. But some great human interest stories. This was the Olympics of the Jamaican. Oh, Eddie the Eagle. Eddie the Eagle, also the Jamaican bobsled team. Right.

But yeah, David Foster, I mean, what can you say about David Foster at this point that hasn't been said? I know there's lots to cover here, but I need to know from you, Cam, what is it about this particular piece that Stu was able to predict you were going to pick it? I feel like we've talked about this

song before. Have we not? No. Not off mic? I just know that you love this song. What is it? I'm listening and it's not like there's a lot more. No, it's great. Yeah, but you could play the song from The Mission or something. Here's the thing. I choose songs that are fun

to riff off, too. So that's partially why you choose Kenny G, too. So this song is also, it's not just the theme song for the 1988 Calgary Olympics. Do you go to Las Vegas ever, Mike? Never. You and Monica, do you go?

No. I know Stu's spent some time there. It doesn't even sound appealing to me. This is the soundtrack for the fountain show at the Bellagio Resort. It better be. If you can believe it. So anyway, that's a fun fact.

I'm trying to find out the personnel on the songs. It sounds like there could be some like, you know, I'm suspicious that there could be some Toto type of things going on. Well, there's certainly a lot of players on this. So David Foster, he also wrote the theme song for the 1996 Summer Olympics with Babyface, a song called The Power song for the 1996 Summer Olympics with Babyface. A song called The Power of the Dream, which I do not recall.

Final comment on the 1998 Winter Olympics. I just, I went to like the hockey page. Like all the NHL players that played to this is quite interesting. So Russia won gold. Some of the players on that team included former, does it say FOTM? Former Toronto Maple Leafs. Alexander Russia won gold. Some of the players on that team included former, I was going to say FOTM,

Alexander McGilney. Oh, can I guess? Fedorov was on that team? No, it was all kind of more obscure. Well, the other big name was Igor Larionov. Was Murray on that team? Mark Makarov, Sergey Makarov? No, we had Igor Kravchuk, we had Andre Lomak. I think Makarov might have been in the NHL by then.

Am I wrong? Wasn't he in Calgary? Makarov was in. I think Larionov was just about to come over. Right. Makarov was have been in the NHL by then. Am I wrong? Wasn't he in Calgary? Makarov was in. I think Larionov was just about to come over. Right. And so was Makarov. Makarov was the first guy. He was here. Big, big Stu Stone favorite here. Val Kaminsky.

Oh, I love him. He's on that team. I love him. So some of the guys who played for Canada in this, this is a real mixed bag of people. So we had Brian Bradley. We had Sean Burke, who also played for another Olympics when he was sitting out.

Andy Moak, it says, was on this team, which I don't really understand because he would have been on Edmonton. Jim Plotinski. He might have been on Boston. Yeah, former Leaf Kenya Remchak and the late, great Zarly Zalapsky. Wow.

I forgot he was late. Yeah, and also some of the guys who played on the U.S., Kevin Stevens, great Pittsburgh Penguin, who's had a lot of challenges in his life. That's the guy that married Lemieux to bounce the puck off his stick. Who was that guy, number 44? Jeff something.

No, there was a guy on Lemieux's line one year who got like 50 goals. Jeff Sanderson? No. Jeff Brown, maybe? Was there a number 44? Jeff Brown was like the defenseman. Gretzky used to make people famous, too. He would just like put it off people. Because there was a guy on his

line one year, because I used to be in this hockey pool all the time, and there was one guy, he got like something like 50 goals. Was this prior to them winning cups? Yeah, like around the turn of the... Not John Cullen. No, no, no, no, no. He wore number 44, and I think he was named Jeff something. Well, a couple of other guys who played for Team USA with Kevin Stevens

include Peter Laviolette, now an NHL coach. Last but not least, and Stu will like this one, Todd Okerlund. He's, of course, the son of Mean Gene Okerlund. Never, I don't think, ever made it to the NHL, but I sort of remember Mean Gene's son when I was watching the Calgary Olympics. There's nobody listed on the Pittsburgh Penguins history. Who wore number 44?

Is that true? Rob Brown. Rob Brown. Rob Brown. What number did he wear? 44. And he was down goes Brown, was he not? You're thinking Rob Brown.

Okay, but did Rob Brown ever have a big year on the Muse line? Yes, he did. Okay, so I'm right. That would make sense. Because that's just from memory. It's not like I read about this. This was before, like, Jaeger and, like, Mark Reckie and all those guys. Yes, definitely.

Because Jaeger comes with the Cubs. That's right. I think his first two years, they won Cubs. Some of those teams were just stacked. Oh, yeah. Rob Brown had a year in 1988 where he scored 49 goals. Yeah, and it's simply because Lemieux kept bouncing the puck off his team. Remember, Lemieux had the year he had like 200

points or something. Oh, Lemieux was pound for pound. Here's a, I hope this is not a hot. I agree. Pound for pound. Best hockey player of all time is Lemieux. Remember the scene he had to skip all that time because he was fighting non-Hodgkins, Limpona?

My favorite player as a kid, remembers Pat LaFontaine. La, la, la, yes. Who was leading the league by 20 points. Lemieux came back and crushed him by 30. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. If he was as healthy as Gretzky, can you imagine?

Well, I think Gretzky's the best hockey player of all time because of what he did to the game. It's tough to argue, but he had extreme health. If I was to start a team and draft a player, I would not be unhappy with Mario Lemieux as my cornerstone of my franchise. Well, like physically, they were very different. Well, Mario's a better,

a more all-around kind of physical player. By the way, not to touch on more death, but R.E.P. Dale Howarchuk. Oh my God, yeah. He was like a phenom coming out of junior. Absolutely, big deal. And again, just because he played in Winnipeg all those years, he kind of didn't get the

recognition he deserved. I was talking to some people. Also, one of the great all-time value-for-value trades. I think it was a straight-up swap. Dale Howartruck for Phil Housley. Oh, yeah. When he went to Buffalo. Two guys who just can't peak at their powers. Former Maple Leaf Phil Housley. That's right.

Had a cup of coffee there. Absolutely. I remember that cup of coffee. He was brutal when he played for the Leafs. Like he was like really, really good. Who's the Hall of Fame blue liner from the longtime? Larry Murphy? No, New York Ranger. Or Brian Leach. Brian Leach.

That was around the same era. We picked up a lot of these late in life. Like Ron Francis, remember? Right, yeah. Same era. Like we'd pick up these guys at the end, tail end of their Hall of Fame careers. Even Eric Lindros, I mean.

Yeah. None of it worked out. And don't forget the great Jeff O'Neill. Jeff O'Neill, oh, Doug. Has not won a playoff series since 2004. That's correct. Is Jeff O'Neill, he hasn't been back yet. No, he said no.

He said no. In fact, yeah, he said no to me. Jason Allison, don't forget he was on that played his junior hockey in Thornhill wow I want to say slowest skater ever

saw was Jason Allison well Cam called his not his last jam but two picks ago he called it like the what is the most celebrated hip hop something

what did he say the national anthem of hip hop national anthem of hip hop well might I submit this song as perhaps a runner-up? Okay. Do you know this song this is rocket yes he was singing it earlier

Also, before I forget to say, Wipeout would have been disqualified because they say Wipeout in there. I have the most insane fun fact that is a mind-blowing fun fact about this song. But I'm going to get to it. It's by Toto. No. It's better. First of all, this is Rocket. R-O-C-K-I-T. No. It's better. First of all, this is Rocket. R-O-C-K-I-T.

Rocket. Herbie Hancock. This is probably like the Smells Like Teen Spirit of breakdancing and hip-hop in the sense that this was like a mainstream crossover cultural phenomenon when it came out. I mean, the music video was so futuristic with robots and just wild, a wild music video was so futuristic with robots and

just wild, a wild music video. It's kind of scary. And Herbie Hancock, who was known as a jazz pianist, you know, used to play with Miles Davis and whatnot. Interesting career for Herbie Hancock. He scored the movie Death Wish,

which kind of blew my mind. He also did all the music for The Fat Albert Show, which I didn't know. Is Death Wish, is that Charles Bronson? Yes, Charles Bronson. Wow, okay. The Great Escape. You know, there's videos that you can find online

of Quincy Jones and Herbie Hancock sort of jamming on the the early sort of keyboards and electronic gear for studios. That's very commonplace now. But there's cool videos on YouTube of those two sort of figuring it out together. A crazy performance in 1988. Herbie Hancock was joined on stage by Stevie Wonder, Howard Jones, and Thomas Dolby in a synthesizer jam. I would like to watch that. Wow.

Wow. This is an interesting... Sorry, was that in the UK? No, that was in America. How this song came about. Well, Herbie Hancock's then 25-year-old manager, Tony, he said, Hey, man, I got to take you out to the clubs. You got to modernize your sound.

He went out to a club. He saw Africa Bambada, and he saw what was going on in the club. And Herbie wasn't sold that he would be able to pull this off. That's when a duo was brought in to sort of write this jam with him. write this jam with him. Bill Laswell and Michael Beinhorn, who are credited with Herbie Hancock as the writers and respected producers

of the song. Are you ready to have your mind blown? I'm so ready. Always. I want to make sure that I'm getting this right. You better. We're going to hear about it if you fuck this up. No, I'm right. This is going to blow your mind. Because Cambrio is watching.

Michael Beinhorn, who is the co-writer of this song, went on to be one of the most prolific producers in all of rock and roll music. Producing all of, well, let's say, after this Herbie Hancock album, his next gig was at the Feet of the Moon, the Parachute Club, which you guys know. From there, he went on to produce a band called the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Mother's Milk.

Love Mother's Milk. Then he did Why Do Birds Sing, the Violent Femmes album. Followed by, he produced an album called Grave Dancers Union by Soul Asylum. Soul Asylum. Ask him if it's grunge. Somebody to Shove. Wow. I need somebody to shove.

Same producer as Herbie Hancock Rocket. Also, he produced Celebrity Skin by Hole. Yeah. He produced Super Unknown by Soundgarden. Oh, yeah. Big time. He produced Social Distortion. He produced Marilyn Manson, The Verve Pipe, The Cult, Corn Fuel,

Red Hot Chili Peppers. Sorry, what's his name again? His name is Michael Beinhorn. Wow. Okay, wow. So that is a pretty awesome fun fact. Okay, that was good. Just to tie it into last week.

No, it's good. The writer of Herbie Hancock Rocket also produced Soul Asylum's grunge hit, Somebody to Shove. Stoose, can I ask you an aside on a very small thing you mentioned? Sure. Your cousin, DJ Farbzy, has

performed, I believe, with Africa Bambaataa. Are they friends? According to him, they are, yes. Because, I mean, as we perhaps know, he's had some I don't know if he was ever charged with this. Some stuff has come out about Africa and Mabata. Oh, what happened?

I believe some... We call those allegations. Yeah, some allegations. Like Me Too type stuff? Worse. Some dalliances with children, I believe. Oh, jeez. That's not good.

I could be wrong. Don't quote me on that. That's a terrible thing to be wrong about. You got to know you're life before you drop that. It was serious stuff. I feel like they played at like Gypsy Co-op or something. Am I wrong? Like DJ Farbsy.

Yeah, it does say that on the internet. He had some. I just remember reading some stuff that kind of like, holy. Yeah. In other news on Twitter right now, Cambrio says we need Lieve Fumpka to impose some structure here. So I don't know what that means. I'm going to ignore that comment from the Twittersphere.

From the peanut gallery. From the peanut gallery. He also says, can we get Cliffs of Dover? No, because fuck you, Cambrio. Is there still not going to be Frankenstein? Are you ready for my... It's funny how Stu wants these songs. You had the opportunity to pick five songs.

I just left the red meat out for you meat eaters. I don't think we need Frankenstein. Are you ready? No, I mean, it didn't make my top five. We've heard so much great music tonight. We don't need... Come on. That's not a great song?

No, it is. It's not a top five, okay? Stu is grooving. Let me play for you. I don't think anyone's surprised. You should start playing Going Home as your closing music. Are you sure it's an instrumental? Well, let's give it a moment and we'll talk. Dick Dale.

Dick Dale. This is a 1962. They call this surf rock. But this song, you might be surprised to learn, is actually a folk song from the eastern Mediterranean region with origins in the Ottoman Empire. Like, this goes way back. And you're listening to the surf rock version by Dick Dale. Which has been called Dick Dale and, like, the Deltones or something?

I think the Deltones, yeah. Yeah, this is... Of course, famous, made famous in the 1995 film Pulp Fiction. Wasn't it 94? 94, my bad. I'm sure it was still popular in 95. Yeah, Dick Dale. Black Eyed Peas is Cam's favorite version.

I didn't know, because it seems to be credited just to Dick Dale. But if you say the Deftones were involved or whatever. Not the Deftones. No, the Deltones. That's a whole different version. Deftones. But it was Deltone Records. But, okay, so.

Hey. If it is raining, let me know, because I don't have any coverage here. So you have Del Tone Records. But, okay, so. Hey. If it is raining, let me know because I don't have any coverage here. So you have to let me know. But the Beach Boys recorded a Dale-inspired song. Of this song? Yeah, for their album Surfing

USA in 1963. I would like to hear that version. I wonder if that's any good. I want to hear the Ottoman Empire version. Not to be confused with the thing that you put your feet up on. That's right. Ottoman. African Bombada, what a piece of shit. Yes.

I hope Farbzi knows. I want to give him a heads up. You'd never heard that before. I'd never heard that before. Wow, this is fascinating. Whoa. Okay. This is like the Wonder Bread version. Yeah, this is fascinating. Whoa. Okay. This is like the Wonder Bread version.

Yeah, this is that Surfing USA version of the Beach Boy. Wow, good cover. That's not bad. See, I mean, us Pulp Fiction lovers are going to like the Dick Dale version. I actually like the Dick Dale version better, but this is... I like the Dick Dale version better. I was going to say that piece of shit Mike Love was probably out of his smoke. You know who I get mixed up with Dick Dale?

Link Wray? Yes, because he has that surf song too. Rumble, yeah. I almost chose the song Rumble. Yeah, I agree with you. That's also like a surf rock type. Yeah, Rumble is a song I considered as well.

Yeah, Link Ray I feel like was of indigenous background. Can I imagine? And Canadian, right? Like he's a... I don't think so. Why do I think

he's a Canadian? I don't think so. Huh. One of these guys died within the last two years. I feel like it was Dick Dale. Yeah, no. Link Ray died last year because we covered it

on our 1236 episodes of Toronto Night. And I feel like Dick Dale had a bit of Johnny Cash late career rediscovery where he played one Warped Tour or something. Well, maybe because of Pulp Fiction. Yeah, like he was sort of known with the... Dick Dale and the Bad Seeds?

Dick Smythe. That's the way I see it. That's the way I see it. Dick Dill and the Bad Seeds? Dick Smythe. That's the way I see it. That's the way I see it. I'm Dick Smythe. Remember when CFMT started broadcasting the CFTR personalities like Evelyn Macko? For those asking, by the way, we have already played Axel F. Who's asking?

What are you looking at? I only look at Twitter. I'm looking at the Periscope, and people are asking for Axel F. Axel F. There's several people. Who's asking? What are you looking at? I only look at Twitter during these shows. I'm looking at the Periscope and people are asking for Axel F. Axel F has been played. Don't worry. Cambrio says Africa Bambada is awesome

but we'll direct him to do a little research on that. We're not going to comment on that, right? No. Okay, I'm excited to do our final jams now

and both Stu and I have, what do we call these? Mind blows or not so mind blows. Whatever. So we have like bonus content. I definitely trademarked the mind blow. I gotta say some fantastic choices all around. I've really been enjoying this.

And I like this topic. And I know next week we're Cam Gordon-less. So Stu and I have to figure out Maybe we should call it CamCon. It's like stuff that Cam wouldn't do. I'm really hoping before we get to sequels, I feel like I'm Pixar. Like, we don't need to do sequels yet. I'm really hoping in two weeks from now, we can kick out the FOTM jams. Basically, any artist that...

It's very difficult for me. I'll give you the list. There's some great jams there. I'll give you the list of artists that are FOTMs, and then you have to pick your five favorite songs from that collection. I think that'd be great. I think so, too. You can kick out Gino Vannelli or Biff Naked or whatever.

There's a lot of options. Bare Naked Ladies. Sloan, 5440. Oh, yeah. Lowest of the Low. Murray McLaughlin, Gino Vannelli. Rusty. Molly Johnson.

Okay, okay. I'm sold. Play Julian. Murray McLaughlin. Yeah. We'll play Look People 5. Who's the guy out west? Who is in?

5440. Northern Pikes? Five long years. Colin James. Colin James. Maestro. Sass Jordan. Guys, you're like, why do the episode?

You just reload all over the place. Danny O. Okay, Kish. Kish is a FOTM. And yeah, lots of great artists we can talk about. Who's saying Chilachi Lachilo? I don't know. But I'm going to kick out your fifth jam.

Fine. Speaking of CamCon, here we go. I just think that it's... Love and Sass. Yes. Speaking of CamCon... This is Canadian? Yeah.

I never knew that. Disgusting. No, I like it. You like it? It kind of rocks. It gets really good. It kind of rocks. I like it.

It's nice bookends with the Vince Eroldi. No one played popcorn. Don't they say popcorn in there? No, they don't. That band Hot Butter apparently did a cover of Apache, too, that I discovered. Hot Butter, right. Okay, talk to us about Frank Mills'

Music Box Dancer. Yeah, so this song came out in 19... Well, this song was a hit. Let me reframe that. It was a hit in 1979 even though Mills wrote and recorded

Music Box Dancer in 1974. It actually didn't become a single until December of 1978. Was it in a movie? It must have been in a movie. That was not on the Wikipedia page. Why do you think it has to it in a movie? It must have been in a movie. That was not on the

Wikipedia page. Why do you think it has to be in a movie? Oh, to get resurgence? Back then, DJs would just pick up a record and play it. That's back in the good old days. So this seems to be such a common story where a song that was a B-side was sent to a radio

station where it was actually the A-side intended to be the head. What's the song, Music Box Dancer? Music Box Dancer. So this single, for a different Frank Mills song, was sent to an easy listening station across Canada,

and a copy was mistakenly sent to CFRA, an Ottawa pop station, which is now, I think, a talk radio station. I think there's an FOTM on the other, Dahlia Kurtz? Yeah, who used to be married to a guy

Stu Stone no but this song has been in the film this song was in the movie Kill Bill okay oh my god

it all comes back to Quentin okay actually yeah I do have like some stuff where this is featured so this was a B-side that there was another Frank Mills song sent to radio stations

didn't like it but the B-side caught on. I feel like that obviously doesn't happen anymore these days. Song went to number three in the US, number one in Sweden. Top 10 in New Zealand actually wasn't as big of a hit in Canada. Only went to number 47. This song has been recorded by several other pianists Namely Floyd Kramer And Roger Williams Why do I know who Roger Williams is?

It's a feature on The Simpsons Do you guys know? No, but I will tell you What year did you say that it charted? 79? 1979 Okay, so it was the theme song for a television show From 1979 until the early 80s

Called Two on the Town Which is a CBS show So 1979 until the early 80s called Two on the Town, which is a CBS show, so that's probably why it blew up again. That sounds about right. Yeah, a few other fun facts. This was a snippet of this tune that was featured in an episode of Full House called Goodbye, Mr. Bear. Oh, that was a sad one. Yeah, I remember

it was the bear with the trench coat. Yeah, Mr. Bear. We've talked about Barbie Doll and Bear. Have we? I love it when you guys talk about it. Barbie Doll and Bear? What the hell is that? I know that Stu Stone. It was like Stephanie Tanner got in trouble,

and she's like, what's your name? It's like, um, Barbie. Yes, yes, yes. Barbie Doll. Connie Chung. Yeah. Oh, Barbie Doll from Poison. Yeah, it was a little bit like George Costanza,

Bert Harbinson. And final fun fact about Music Box Dancer, if you ever see an ice cream truck in Toronto, there's actually one that you'll see around where this is the song that it plays. Oh, yeah, because usually it's, oh, God, I hear it all the time. It's that old time song.

It's like Take Me Out to the Ballgame. Has it not been like when you twist a music box, doesn't it play this song? Like a hurdy-gurdy. Yeah, is that where he got the song from? Probably. So is this a rip-off? Perhaps in spite.

Is this the cover or sample? I don't know. Frank Mills? It's an homage. It's a remix. It's a remix. Last Jeremy Taggart. This song also won a single of the year,

the June Award. Wow, June Award. Wow. Okay. Big winner, Frank Mills. So I'm glad you have a single of the year the junior awards wow junior award wow okay big winner frank so i'm glad you guys a couple you have a couple of uh can con jams in your five so that's pretty good by the way and do you guys ever have the album um i think this was on it's a shame about ray the lemonheads album yeah that had the cover of mrs robinson that's right but there's this it was either that or come on feel the lemon as the next one had a song called frank mills on it different guy oh a different guy different guy that's no fun yeah are you guys ready because there's a couple of lots of controversy there's a few different jams here but let's kick out i hope i have it in the right order you play it

yeah make sure that it's the right song yeah i got it and just know folks this is the most controversial of all of the instrumental songs that have been played this week lawsuits all sorts of fun facts it's the stuff of legends the stuff of legends and it all stems back lawsuits fun facts almost sounds like the Futurama theme I was going to say the funky chimes So awesome just to even listen to this version. The real good part's coming. It's almost better than the VR version. Thank you. All right. The Andrew Oldham Orchestra was a musical side project put together in the mid-60s,

created by Andrew Oldham, who was the original manager and record producer of the Rolling Stones. In fact, the first fun fact right out of the gate, there is no actual Andrew Oldham Orchestra. There is no actual orchestra. It's just him with studio musicians that he brought in to do these sessions. So that's right off the bat. That's one fun fact. The only albums he's ever put out

is covers of interpretations of Rolling Stone songs. This one being The Last Time, which we may hear a little bit of later. Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, writers of the original music that was interpreted for this song. Obviously, I'm not going to blow your minds if you are, unless you're living under a rock,

you probably recognize where this song came from. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there's zero, zero people listening who haven't, don't know what song it is. I would going to go out of limb and say there's zero, zero people listening who haven't don't know what song I would assume that that's not. And if any, I'm being dead serious here.

Like, I'll make sure I can get you some free Great Lakes beer if you, if this is true. Let me know if you don't know the song that we're talking about here.

Interestingly enough, there is a reason why this song was selected by Andrew Oldham as such a... This is like, you know, he put a lot of oomph behind this particular song. You may not know this, but this is actually the first song that the Rolling Stones, the writing duo of Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, that they actually, the first single they actually wrote. The last time.

The last time is the first single they wrote. All the other songs were covers of old blues songs or whatever it was at the time. I know the Beatles even wrote a song for the Stones at the start of their career. So this is like 64 they wrote it or so? 65? This was their first song and here you go. This is

The Verve. Richard Ash. This is The Verve. Richard Ashcroft's The Verve. Check this out and see if you notice any similarities. So again, let me know. You can DM me on Twitter or write me, mikeatronomike.com. If you had no idea, we were going to play this song next. I still love this song, by the way. Of course, it's great.

And the video's great, too. You want to hear some fun facts? This whole crazy story. Basically, Richard Ashcroft and The Verve had an idea for this song, Bittersweet Symphony. They actually did get permission from Decca, the record label that had released the orchestral album. But they lied about their usage or they misrepresented their usage because when the actual Rolling Stones and their team heard this song, they realized this is more than just a little snippet or a little sample. This is the whole fucking song.

The bounce. The whole song. It wasn't just a little sample as advertised, and thus lawsuits began. And of course, The Verve famously lost this lawsuit, and all royalties from this smash hit song went to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. But there's a twist at the end of the story. There is a twist at the end.

All right, you can save it. Okay, because I follow this story very closely because the joke was, of course, this is the biggest Rolling Stone hit in how many? Yeah. Well, at least since 89. Yeah. Well, at least since 89. Yeah. Literally, they said that these young Brits had used far more of The Last Time

than was mutually agreed upon, and The Verbs' use was not just a small sample, but infringed on the entire song, which I agree with. It's basically the same song. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's not like they used the littlest part of it.

Right. The whole song is. And it runs throughout. There's not even guitars on this, is there? Yeah, there's some stuff going on. Okay, but not that loop there. I think I almost want to... Are you okay if I play the next jam? Yes.

I sing you one to play two that's related to this. If there's time. Here is actually the real version so yeah the last time by the Rolling Stones the band's first

UK single actually written by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. Spent three weeks on top of the charts in 65. Really blew them up when they came on American television performing this song. So I'm guessing like 64? Yeah, 64. Okay, because Hot Rocks ran from 64 to 71.

That's how I know these things. 65, actually. Okay, 65 to 71. It's really very country-ish. So you think, yeah. Interestingly enough, the Rolling Stones were motivated by a song called The Last Time by the Staples Singers. Which I kicked out at some point.

I kicked out the weight by the Staples Sing. Which I kicked out at some point. I kicked out the weight by the Staples singers. Like their cover. Well, they did together in the Last Waltz. Keith Richards says we came up with the last time, which was basically readapting a traditional gospel song that had been sung by the Staples singers. Yes. Luckily the song itself goes

back into the midst of time. So that's public domain for them to mess with that song. But obviously this guitar riff and whatnot, the Rolling Stones brought some originality and lyrics and a whole different kind of approach. Okay, this is unprecedented, Stu Stone, but you brought the mind blows of the week, those two.

And Cam is going to piggyback on your mind blows. Wait, don't you want like the... Oh, yes, I'm sorry, the twist. The ending of the whole story? Yes, I'm sorry. Mine's more a chaser anyway. Folks, there's a happy ending to this. And if you want to know the definition of a mensch,

then you will see a photograph. I'm looking at him. Of Kareem passing that blunt. You will see a photograph of Keith Richards and Mick Jagger, who just a few years ago gave all of the publishing rights and royalties to Richard Ashcroft in the verb. In the verb, I should say. It's the least they can do.

They have a few bucks. It has a happy ending, where in the end, this lawsuit that took place and cost millions of dollars, now the Stones, ended up giving him back the publishing because they are nice guys. Why did they do it?

There was no reason other than they felt this is the only really song that The Verve made their whole career off of. So the Stones were like you know what? It's been long enough. Let's give it back to them. It suffered.

And there you go. Okay. I just sent this to Mike because I like to say A$AP Rocky. Did you just send it to him now? Yeah. I wonder if he paid the stones. Yeah, this adds nothing to To it I just like this Against the ball I'm face my fears I

Haven't missed a minute dog. He's always got me scar Guess just a prophet got a straw Do much to the track either. Pretty much nothing. Which goes to show you that the original recording was so ahead of its time that you didn't have to do much to it. You know what I'm saying?

Like two dope songs and not much done. There'll probably be more. They'll probably just go on in perpetuity. You know, I didn't know this. I'm surprised I didn't know about this ASAP Rocky song. Yeah, I don't think it was on like any of his mixtapes. Like this was sort of just like a random SoundCloud drop. Gents, this has been a great, another great Pandemic Friday.

I have no words, but I have one more jam to kick out. And then I have a, like stew stone i have a mind blow of the week which is not much of a mind blow at all but neither have stew stone's been recently he had some even uh less mind blowing the soul asylum thing was good though like that was awesome like tying like herbie hancock oh yeah but that was like i think he stumbled upon that no no no oh he did his research no that's not a trademark. That's work. Yes. All right.

Well, let me kick out my fifth jam. Wait a minute. We've heard this. This has lyrics. Are you fucking kidding me? I don't think there's a lyric in here. Unless this is not Justify My Love, is this like the original version that was sampled in Justify My Love?

Is this Justify My Love? This is Public Enemy, is it not? Oh, okay, yeah, all right. I thought you were about to play Justify My Love, which clearly... I got you! Yeah, you psyched me out. Written by Lenny Kravitz. Yeah, well, we talked about that song before.

So, okay, gentlemen. Is this the extent of this song? Yeah, pretty much. song before. So, okay, gentlemen. Is this the extent of this song? Yeah, pretty much. I'll let it run through. High concept. It is called Security of the First World. It goes for about a minute twenty, like this.

And it is on debatably the greatest Public Enemy album of all time. It takes a nation of millions to hold us back. It's their second album after Yo!

Bum Rush the show and just before Fear of a Black Planet and all three of those and even Apocalypse 91. Oh my God. Yeah.

Watching. For you to justify my love. So this song is right after. So this side two, if I may. What?

Okay. You got the third jam on the side two. Night of the Living Bassheads, which is amazing. Night of the Living Bassheads. Then Black Steel and the Hour of Chaos. Then Security the First World. Then Rebel Without a Pause. I think this is the greatest album in hip hop history.

It takes a nation of millions to hold this back. It's hard to argue with you. Waiting. Wanting. Oh, it does this? Oh, you bastard. No, now it's my mind blow, which is... This is Madonna.

Mind blow? Come on. The mind blow is that it's a Public Enemy song. It's as mind-blowing as your bittersweet symphony Well I had a little back story to it at least I have a back story You know what When I started learning more about music

I do wonder if Touche If her vocals on this were inspired By Kim Gordon Cause it does have sort of like that Oh cool thing like What are you gonna do to us yeah like how that breath of you and then like speaking of Kim Gordon that's Chuck D exactly

fucking ripping off she was clearly paying attention to Donna like you know had her finger on the pulse of culture did you ever see the uh Nirvana uh induction into the rock and roll hall of fame performance that they had with Joan Jett and Lorde. Yeah, like all the guest vocals. But Kim Gordon was one of them and she really shit the bed. Yeah, she's... I'll be honest, I don't love her vocals. Waiting.

Waiting. Waiting. For you to justify my love. So this song came out in 1990, the same year as Cool Thing by Sonic Youth. Yeah. Sampling Public Enemy.

She's singing like Kim Gordian. I think Kim played this song on... He kicked this out on one of our weeks. It was like The Secret, because Lenny Kravitz wrote this song, or he's on this song. Cameos. Cameos, yes.

Yes, you're right. You did this one, but you didn't do The Public Enemy, or he's on this song. Cameos. Cameos, yes. Yes, you're right. You did this one, but you didn't do the Public Enemy. This was a scandalous song. Yeah, well, yes. And the sex movie. This was the coffee table book. I had it on VHS because you couldn't watch it on TV. Do you remember, do you gentlemen remember,

maybe you were in America, Stu, but the Too Much for Much late night episodes where they would play the videos that were Too Much for Much. Yeah, like Kim. Wouldn't Kim Clark Champness then say something like that? Well, they would talk about, like, we're not playing. They would play it. So I actually saw this on Much Music,

but it was during a Too Much for Much. You couldn't really J.O. to this video. Too much going on. I was more of a Mitsu guy for that. Like, give me some D-more, D-more. Wow. D-more, D-more. Was. D-more, D-more. Was the video like she was like at a club?

No, she's like in like an S&M hotel and each room has like guys kissing guys. It had an Eyes Wide Shut vibe to it, didn't it? Kind of like it was very... People getting pegged. What's the word I'm looking? Whips and chains. It was very hedonistic. Sadomasochism.

Yeah. S&M. The rough trade. The writing credits. The stuff that you and your girlfriend like to do. The writing credits for this song. There's three people credited with writing this song. This is a sexy song. Will you stop?

Lenny Kravitz. Yes. Which Cam brought us that fun fact. Yes. Ingrid Chavez. Ah. And Madonna. There is no credit to the, whatever,

the Bomb Squad or whoever the hell put together Rittenhour, the Public Enemy Jam. There's no credit. There was never any credit given to Public Enemy.

How could there not be? It's clearly... Public Enemy was very vocal about you can't own a beat. Like, they had songs about Rebel Without a Pause. And they lost it. Sampling.

They got fucked by their own. Right. They would never, ever, ever sue you for stealing from them because they were... Because they stole from so many people. And yeah, they were very much like

you can't own a beat. It's a sampling sport. I'm giving it a new name. What you hear is my P.E. It used to be like that, by the way. Now, no more. I talked to Jay Ferguson about this just yesterday.

What did he say? He said, yeah, you couldn't put out Paul's boutique today. No. Oh no, no way. Love me. Love me.

Doing a lot of backdoor peeks. She's cute. I gotta say, I'm in love with my four-year-old. She's very cute. That's good. Yeah. And we're going camping.

This is my last episode for a little bit. Not too long, but a little bit. Can we like get a better ending song? Maybe Axl F reprise? That's a good song.

There you go. The singer-songwriter of this jam was sitting right there. I hope you wiped off this microphone with Lysol after that. That guy was here. If you could get COVID from Ron Hawkins, you'd be like a lucky man. I would hope not. I don't wish to have that type of luck. Also a first song, yeah.

Also Alan Pers... Was it Moody Blues? No, it's Lucky Man You are a Lucky Man No, it's... I think it is King Crimson Anyway Cam will not be here next week

So tune in to find out who will be here Otherwise it'll just be me and Mike Going seven and a half songs each Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. ELP and Palma Pasta. Not to be confused with Wakeman Howe and... I'll miss you, Kim. I'll miss you guys, too. Do we have a plan for next

week still? Are we going to talk about it? We'll talk about it, but when we see Kim, the next time we see Kim, no more white pants. That's right. Side bit true. And that... That... Brought to you by Palma Pasta. Great. Side bit true. And that. That. Brought to you by Palma Pasta.

Why don't you do these outros, Stu? That brings us to the end of our 714th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Stu is at Stu Stone. And we're very close to being able to announce the name of his new movie. Yes. I can't wait. It's coming soon.

I can't believe you make movies. I'm impressed by that. I just want you to know. I can't believe he did it, to be honest. You direct these movies. I do. And people finance these things? They do.

I love that. I need to ask him. If anyone listening wants to invest in my next movie, hit us up. I think Kareem might do that. Kareem, come on down, man. And I know the bar is very low. The bar is very low with Kareem.

He thought that last movie was good. He's a big fan. I want to find out what that movie was. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. The bar was low, but he was high. I got to get a lasagna for you, Cam, so you can bring it onto the cottage. Oh, my God.

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