Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toast 12: Toronto Mike'd #1173

Episode Date: December 21, 2022

In this 12th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out December jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are O...pen, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Uncle Jesse, you know, after six years, I don't think I'm going to recognize my own cousins. Oh, I think you'll recognize them. Now do you recognize them? Daisy, Uncle Jesse. Daisy. Uncle Jesse. Hey, Prince. How are you?
Starting point is 00:00:35 It sure beats any port I've ever seen in the Merchant Marine. Sam, we're forgetting to wonder if you'd ever get here. I don't know who's going to get a welcome like this. We would have come back years ago. Isn't that right, Coy? Shoot, we never would have left. Just toast. I'm going to think about it some.
Starting point is 00:00:52 F-O-T-M's. Do you know what time it is? It's... One, two, three, four. Toast time. Toast. Featuring Stu Stone, Cam Gordon, and Toronto Mike. That's toast. Mmm, yeah, just toast.
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Starting point is 00:02:30 Ask Sammy any real estate questions at sammy.cone at properlyhomes.ca. Joining me today, playing the roles of Coy and Vance for this 12th episode of Toast, are Bob Willett and Rob Pruce. Look at that. Bob and Rob. Yeah, welcome Bob and Rob. I love that it's a Bob and a Rob
Starting point is 00:02:55 and sometimes a Bob can be a Rob and sometimes a Rob can be a Bob. Very true. I was a Bobby most of my childhood. Uncle Bobby. Spoiler. I have so much ground I want to cover with both of you, but first I need to make sure you guys know who each other are, and then we're going to explain, like,
Starting point is 00:03:13 why isn't this Cam Gordon and Stu Stone? We have some explaining to do. But let's begin. Bob, will I introduce yourself to the great Rob Pruce? Well, my name is Robert Richard Timothy richard timothy willett if you must say there you go um yeah i am a toronto guy as well i'm the uh east end version of toronto mike i would i would say um i grew up in uh in toronto and uh kind of got to know mike through the humble and fred show and i started out i was bingo bob on the humble and fred show
Starting point is 00:03:44 for a long time. I still don't see you. No, you won't because Mike won't let you. You're just a voice. Yes. Mike won't allow it. Although you do have a camera on me, you said. There's a camera. No, we see Bob. We don't see Rob. So Bob Ouellette is in my basement.
Starting point is 00:03:59 You're physically here. I could reach out and pinch your cheeks. Where I sat when I was with you also. Correct. Yes. I drove across this fine city of ours and came here to visit the basement once again, mostly just so I could crack a Great Lakes beer. Okay, do that now. Crack the Great Lakes beer, then
Starting point is 00:04:16 I'll introduce Rob, and I have a song for Rob. So what are you going to crack open, Bob? I brought over three beers. Thank you. Yeah, I'm looking. There's a Hayes Mama. I'm going to probably go with the Canuck Pale Ale. Thank you. You're not alone. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:04:29 There we go. Thank you. Okay. So Bob Lulet's cracked open his fresh Great Lakes beer. I'm going to crack open my burst right on the microphone. I'm citrusy on the nose. You're like a sommelier. What are they called?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Sommelier. That would be the wine. An onophile, if you will. I'm so cultured. I'm so cultured. But enjoy, Bob. I'm cracking open an IPA. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:52 All the best of the holiday season to you. Same to you, Bob, and your family. Now, Rob, I'm going to call you Proust from now on. Okay, I'm going to play a little music, and then we're going to introduce who the heck you are. This is exciting. Here we go. Okay. Okay, Bob, we're going to tell you. Okay, Bob, we're going to do this. Ready?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. All right, I'll bring her down here. So, Mr. Rob Pruce, what would you have, if anything, to do with this fantastic spoons jam romantic traffic? Co-wrote it, played piano on it, didn't sing on it,
Starting point is 00:06:18 but yeah, played keyboards. Didn't, didn't, did not sing, but piano and synthesizer. Dude. That's a lot of synthesizer, so, you know, that's a good part. Actually, there's piano and synthesizer. Dude. That's a lot of synthesizers. So, you know, that's a good part. That's a good part.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Actually, there's not much synthesizer. It's, this song is more about the piano for us. Cause it was, you know, we were a synth band, but I was very excited to like play lots of piano in this song.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Nice. You're the guy, you're the keyboardist for the spoons during their, I would say their, shout out to Bruce Springsteen, their glory days. Thank you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I like how humble he is. You're still Canadian. Can I bring this all full circle and then we're going to get into, we're going to do some catching up and we're going to kick out December jams. But here, this is fascinating to me. Bob Ouellette, aren't you going to be connected somehow to
Starting point is 00:07:01 the Spoons on New Year's Eve? Possibly. Oh, what? I thought it was a done deal. Well, they are playing the Elma Combo. The remaining members of the Spoons. Sandy and Gord will be there. Sandy and Gord are playing
Starting point is 00:07:15 along with Images in Vogue, which will be fun. Yeah, and honestly, it really just comes down to how many tickets they sell on the... I'm going to DJ the main floor possibly. Like the Starlight Room. Yeah. So do an 80s night.
Starting point is 00:07:31 But it's all about ticket sales. If they have enough ticket sales, then they can afford me. And if they don't have. So let's do the pitch now. Like, okay. So it's New Year's Eve. Yeah. So general admission main level is like 50 bucks.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And then go upstairs, 150 bucks to see the spoons and images of Vogue at an open bar. 150 bucks. Amazing. Pretty good deal on New Year's Eve. And you're on the main floor. Yeah, so as you go in. Yeah, that area is super cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, I've been to a few different events there. And I'm looking forward to playing the room. The sound in that place is insane it really is i i played uh at the beginning of september i did a gig with rough trade i played keyboards right and you know fotm carol pope that's right we were we were upstairs and after we were done i was sort of hanging out talking to some friends and some people and i went downstairs and a friend of mine was was down there with a band from montreal that he was managing and i'd never seen that room downstairs and it's cool.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I almost like, I mean, I wouldn't say I liked it more than the upstairs room, but it has a different sort of a low, cool vibe to it. Yeah. It's very, it's almost reminiscent of the original Elmo with the lower ceiling and
Starting point is 00:08:34 everything, which is kind of cool. Rob, we also, we have a common friend then is Tim Welch. Oh, cool. Tim is a very good friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Nice. Tim used to be the, he was at one point, he was the lighting guy at the Phoenix Concert Theater. And so all those years that I was producing, I used to produce the live to airs with Martin Streak. Amazing. And Tim was there. And so Tim Welch is a good friend of mine.
Starting point is 00:08:57 He's a fellow East Ender as well. Oh, my God. He sure is. And he's going to be playing with Images in Vogue, actually, on New Year's Eve. Yeah, of course. That's right. Yeah. He's amazing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Okay. And he's in Rough Trade. And he plays with Carol Pope. Yeah, of course. That's right. He's amazing. Yes. Okay. He plays with Carol Pope, so that's why I brought him up. It's kind of neat that you might have a gig with spoons on New Year's Eve, Bob. Yes. And meanwhile, we're now connecting with no longer with spoons, but the keyboard is during the glory days.
Starting point is 00:09:19 It is very cool. Once a spoon, always a spoon. That's what I say. There you go. For me, anyways. I thought maybe before we... We're going to do a little catching up here, but I thought... Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Maybe we could remember just a couple of people
Starting point is 00:09:34 we lost recently that I think, Rob, I think you'd have a little personal connection with. Is that cool if I play a little music and we just talk about some people? Yeah, of course, of course. A little bit here. Yeah. I'm falling, falling, falling at your feet I'm tingling right from my head to my toes So help me, help me, help me make the feeling go Cause when the loving starts and the lights go down
Starting point is 00:10:24 There's not another living soul around You'll be here till the sun comes up And you say that you love me Rob Pruce, this is obviously a Fleetwood Mac cover, but who is singing this version of Say You Love Me? Well, I was going to say, it's a double sad shout out to Ridley Funeral Home because it's a Christine McVie
Starting point is 00:10:49 composition, rest in peace, sung by the beautiful Shirley Eichardt, rest in peace. And what a fantastic version of the song that was. I always loved that song when I was a kid. I follow you on social media and I loved your recollections of hearing this on CKOC. Give us that story. And this is a song, social media, and I loved sort of your recollections of hearing this on CKOC.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Like, give us that story. And this is a song, I think Bob and I, we're similar vintage, which is like a couple of years younger than you. So I think I can speak for Bob. Like, we missed the Shirley Eichhardt, is that how you say it? Yep, Eichhardt. The Shirley Eichhardt Say You Love Me chart period was just before we were still listening to Big Bird and Oscar and all that stuff. But tell us a story.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I was listening to that too. I was listening to that. Well, I was a little, I mean, I was like nine or 10 when it was on the radio, but I was already well into my obsession with the top 40. So 75, this was on the radio in 75, 76. So I was- 76, I'd already been-
Starting point is 00:11:43 76. Yeah, so I'd already been playing piano uh summer of 75 when i was nine years old that's when i decided i wanted to play in a band so i was already like tuning into any song on the radio that had a piano on it or whatever right and this song shirley's version is is not quite as keyboard heavy as the fleetwood mac version but it's close but i just loved this song because it was, it was moving up the charts. And like later on that summer, they swapped it out with the Fleetwood Mac version. And so the story that I heard was that Shirley kind of beat them to the release in Canada,
Starting point is 00:12:16 as far as releasing it as a single. I mean, in the seventies, this was a time when different territories could release versions of the same songs, depending on which record company got to it in time you know the world moved much slower right and like one of my favorite songs from when i was even a few years younger was billy don't be a hero by paper lace and there was a huge version in north america sung by beau donaldson and the haywoods which more people remember and i don't like that version because paper lace was the original but so shirley released say you love me and i think then fleetwood mac released their version and then at some point they sort of swapped them on the canadian radio but in hamilton on ckoc surely got all the airplay
Starting point is 00:12:54 so and you as a burlington guy ckoc was your top 40 station right sure was 11 50 right yeah yep 11 50 I actually regret now if I could go back in time I would do a special you know what I'm just gonna say next right like cause I did 1050 for Chum
Starting point is 00:13:11 I did 1071 for Q and then 1150 came and went cause I didn't have any personal connection to 1150 right of course but now that I know your connection
Starting point is 00:13:21 like I would I would have you know connected with you to pay tribute to CKOC yeah and see if I'm CKOC has some connections to like CFNY as well like Jim Reed who was a was a CFNY alumni he was also on CKOC when I was a kid Jim Reed was the guy and I one of the very first interview that Gordon and I ever did when we released our first Spoons album was with Jim Reed we went to CFNY in Brampton and it was jim reed and i remember thinking that's so weird
Starting point is 00:13:48 because i used to listen to you when i was seven or eight years old and his voice was the voice of me sort of discovering pop music and knowing that this is something i wanted to do you know you know now bob willett was on episode 1021 because bob spent many years at cfny through uh when did you show up 1997 when did you show up? 1997? When did you show up? 98 actually. So a few years at CFNY. Yeah, yeah. 98 to 2001 with CFNY
Starting point is 00:14:14 and then stayed with Chorus 640. 640 and talk and then I've also been at Mixed 999 and Virgin Radio and then actually Shirley Eichart, you bring her up whether or not I know much about her, I didn't until I started working, I was running Proud FM
Starting point is 00:14:29 because Shirley was a very active and out member of the community, of the LGBT community. And I was the program director at that radio station for eight years. Okay, Rob, I got to tell you one other interesting fun fact about Bob Ouellette and I, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:43 I think we're the only two humans on the planet who have produced both the Humble and Fred show and Mary Jo Eustace because when Bob mentioned Proud FM, he was a producer of the Mary Jo, what's it called? Ken Kostick and Mary Jo Eustace, they had their TV show called
Starting point is 00:15:00 What's for Dinner and we put it on the radio called What's for Breakfast. Wow. Yeah. That's cool. Mary Jo and Ken Kostick, RIP Ken Kostick, great guy. Taken too soon. But yeah, so Mary Jo. And then Mary Jo came on my podcast,
Starting point is 00:15:16 Bob's Basement, to talk about change and asked do you know anybody who produces podcasts? And I was like, yeah, I know somebody. And I pointed her in Toronto Mike's direction. And just to put a bow in this story, and I told this Bob privately a couple of times, but I listened to Bob's Basement, Bob Ouellette's podcast,
Starting point is 00:15:34 and my favorite episode of Bob's Basement, and this is because I knew nothing about her. I didn't know her at all. Complete blind spot for me. I didn't watch the dinners. What's for dinner? I didn't listen to What's for Breakfast. But I found this Mary Jo Eustace person on Bob's
Starting point is 00:15:48 podcast. Fascinating. She was funny. She's hilarious. I just loved her persona. I told Bob, I said, I love your Mary Jo Eustace episode. It's just wild that now MJ, we're on the phone. I was on the phone with her for an hour today. Okay. Lots of ground to cover. We need to, at some point
Starting point is 00:16:03 very soon, address why am I talking to Bob Ouellette and Rob Pruce and where the hell is Cam Gordon and Stu Stone? We're going to address that in a moment. But there's one more death I want to address. Are you smiling when you say that? I don't mean to. This is a fresh one. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:19 I don't mean to. I don't think I know who you're going to say. I don't mean to, but this is a shout-out to Ridley Funeral Home. One more I'm hoping to hear, particularly you rob but let's let's get to this oh yeah This time This time This town is coming like a ghost town All the clubs are being closed down This place is coming like a ghost town Bands won't play no more Too much fighting on the dance floor
Starting point is 00:17:31 Terry Hall passed away only 63 years young from the specials. Rob Pruce, what say you, my friend? Sad news, sad news. Yeah, I mean mean he was involved in you know several different projects that were pretty iconic 80s kind of
Starting point is 00:17:49 sounding things and for me the biggest mind blow with Terry Hall was the fact that he co-wrote the Go-Go song Our Lips Are Sealed
Starting point is 00:17:56 which I didn't know until many years for some reason many years later like even when it came out it was one of my favorite songs like I had this the 45
Starting point is 00:18:04 before I had it like I never really owned gogo's albums yeah great song you ready for this so they know this like i'm learning this now i'm just right now processing this yeah so and i think the story is that he was they were having they were touring together the gogos and the specials were touring they actually played in oakville ontario at the very first police picnic in 1981 um but apparently they they co-wrote the song and it might have been sort of surreptitiously about their affair that they were having or their love affair or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But I loved the Go-Go song. And it was probably years later that I remembered or that I learned for the first time that Terry had co-written it with Jane Weedland from the Go-Go's. Mind blow, Bob. I hope you brought some mind blows today. I feel drastically underprepared
Starting point is 00:18:49 when listening to Rob talk about music. I'm always in awe. I'm always in awe of musicians. I love music and I love playing other people's music. I've been a DJ and I work in radio, but I can't play music to save my life. In the same boat, Bob. You and I together, we're going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm going to get back to that police picnic because I have a question from a listener from your last appearance, Rob, and I'm going to get back to police picnic. But let's just address the gorilla in the room real quick. Toast, this is the 12th episode of Toast, so that means this is the 12th month of 2022. I'm doing quick math and I
Starting point is 00:19:22 realize we did one a month for all of 2022. See how smart I am. But the first 11 were me, Cam Gordon, and Stu Stone. And here we are, number 12, and I'm with Bob Ouellette and Rob Pruce. I jokingly have been referring to you guys for the last month as
Starting point is 00:19:37 Coy and Vance. I was very confused. Can we talk about this? Because I had drinks with Cam Gordon last week. Yeah, Friday at Great Lakes Brewery, actually. The Jarvis and Queens Quay location. I wasn't having drinks with my eight-year-old Jarvis. This is the street Jarvis.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Okay. So we're having drinks and he's like, I don't get the reference. Like, is this too obscure? I just thought like Gen Xers from this continent would get the Koi Advance reference. But you guys tell me because I get the feeling Bob's a big Dukes of Hazzard guy. I was a big Dukes of Hazzard guy when I was a kid. Absolutely loved that show. And I can remember
Starting point is 00:20:14 turning it on as a child and seeing these two other guys and immediately turning it off. I don't ever remember their names. I couldn't have told you their names. I just knew it was other guys that weren't Bo and Luke Duke. And that's all I wanted to know. I don't ever remember their names. I couldn't have told you their names. I just knew it was other guys that weren't Bo and Luke Duke. And that's all I wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I wanted to watch Bo and Luke Duke. I'm with you 100%. So I couldn't name them. How do you know their names? I don't think I knew it at the time. I'm not sure I knew the name. I think it's just like as a guy who's been blogging since 2002
Starting point is 00:20:40 about shit he's interested in. At some point, I got the reference. But I'm going to play something very quickly here. Let's listen to this. Friday, it's the all-new season premiere of The Dukes of Hazzard with the return of Enos.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Same old Enos. Come on, Vance Duke. Along with two new dukes. Somebody up there hates me. And they could be too hot for Hazard to handle. Then, a special preview of Bring Him Back Alive takes you to Singapore where the prize is gold and the price is danger for the intrepid Frank Buck.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Bring him back alive. Following the season premiere of the Dukes of Hazard Friday. So there was a contract. I don't know, 83 or something like that. But there was a contract dispute and the actors who played Bowen, Luke, Duke, one of whom is now the manager of the Toronto Blue Jays. John Schneider.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And the other guy, I just got an email. Tom Wolpat's got a new album out. He's making music now. He's like a singer. Wow. Oh yeah, he was a Broadway guy too though. He did shows. Yeah, he's been on Broadway too.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Okay. And for those who are not sure, it's a different John Schneider. I don't want anyone to get really confused or whatever, but I like to jokingly say that one of the dukes is managing the Blue Jays. Okay, so in the real world, they held out for more money, so they got these scab
Starting point is 00:21:53 dukes, okay, which is like another blonde handsome guy and another brunette handsome guy who were the cousins, Coy and Vance. Now, this didn't work at all. Like, I don't know how long they lasted. They had to pay up and get the real Dukes back. But they were like scab imposter Dukes, right? So I basically, without saying too much,
Starting point is 00:22:12 because I'm going to give them a bit of privacy, but one of the Toast members asked for a little break for professional reasons. And then the other Toast member, people are going to do process elimination. But the other guy is on the road filming something. You guys can figure it all out. Bottom line is, I had a choice to make.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I can pause Toast for a few months until we get Bowen Luke back. Or I can keep it going because I actually love it very much. And I could just get substitute Bowen Luke, like a coin advance. And then when they're ready to come back, the doors open.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I'm so glad you two accepted the invitation. You're the scabs. We're the scabs. You're going to keep this going and it makes my life better. Thank you, Rob Pruess and thank you, Bomboulette. Thanks for the beer.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Honored. Happy to be here. Now to a couple of questions. Rob, this question's for you. This came in from a Jay Cruz who listened to you on Toronto Mike, your last appearance. And he said,
Starting point is 00:23:09 if you have him on again, you got to ask him about being on the police picnic bill. He goes, I think it was police picnic number three. Can you just give us the details? Which police picnic was it? And any memories you have
Starting point is 00:23:19 of this Gary's presentation? It was police picnic number two. Two. Two, number two. Two! Two number two. So the first one took place summer of 81 in Oakville, Ontario at The Grove, which was like a field.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And so my memories of the transition from 81 into the 82 police picnic is like one of those from a distance, it gets even cooler because the summer of 81, I was in my bedroom in the basement at my parents' house,
Starting point is 00:23:47 listening on the radio to the CFNY live broadcast of the police picnic and like reporting from the Grove in Oakville. And it's the police picnic and it was killing joke and the go-go's and the specials and the police. And one year later, August of 82, we were the first band on the bill. So we had released Nova Heart in theust of 82 we were the first band on the bill so we had released nova heart in the spring
Starting point is 00:24:06 of 82 and uh the gary's were huge supporters of us um and they got us on the bill and so we we opened the show at the cne stadium uh it was august the 13th 1982 and we went on at like 4 30 or so and it was so we were the first band and then it was i want to say like joan jett went on and flock of seagulls in the english beat and talking heads played and then the police of course it was the police picnic so it was like an amazing experience it was our first big gig but it was like an extra big gig because it was the seeing these stadiums so like walking onto the stage felt so bizarre because it sort of looks like I was just heading to my keyboard, right? So I'm just like doing what I always do,
Starting point is 00:24:50 whether it's the Riverside in Oakville or Larry's Hideaway or whatever, but it happens to be C&E Stadium. So for me, I'm like comfortable behind my synthesizer. But then I go, oh, there's like, you know, 20,000 people out there or whatever. Now, Rob, was it the big stage that they trucked out in front of the grandstand when there was a concert, that, that huge thing that sat at the side during a blue Jay game or a girl game.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yes. So they, they wheel it around. Oh, cool. Exactly. That's amazing. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So that, yeah. So that it was one end of the, of the stadium. Um, and of course people were still coming in cause we were the first band. So, you know what everybody always does.
Starting point is 00:25:22 They're like, ah, whatever. Um, but for us it was filled enough that it was still like like one of our biggest gigs to that point for sure um and it was super exciting so and it really felt like like this was the first step in the next progression of our career because we had just finished or we were finishing recording our album aries and symphonies as well we had spent the summertime working on the album so you know all
Starting point is 00:25:44 these elements were coming together, but to have been a part of that gig was super cool for us. This sounds like a conversation on Bob's Basement about change, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:52 It was like talking about what that one gig meant, you know? Oh, yeah. My podcast is all about the idea of like, do you have a moment where you knew you made it?
Starting point is 00:25:59 I talk to musicians about that all the time. It's kind of the thing I like to talk about. And this sounds like it. It's amazing. It's very cool the thing I like to talk about. And this sounds like it. It's amazing. It's very cool. So let's book a date.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah, for sure. Absolutely, Rob. For sure. Yeah, we'll make that happen. Yeah, yeah, we'll make that happen for sure. That's a slam dunk. But to pull on that thread of the moment things change, Little Birdie tells me that the first time Rob Proust ever plays with the spoons
Starting point is 00:26:19 is the night John Lennon dies. That Birdie's told you the truth. That's crazy. Like, okay, so we talked about Police Picnic, a Gary's presentation, okay? They're both FOTMs. We love the Garys on this show. Your first performance with The Spoons,
Starting point is 00:26:34 which I now know was December 8th, 1980. That is at The Edge, a Gary's presentation. Yeah. So are you on stage when you find out? I'm just curious. Do you guys are you on stage when you find out? Like, I'm just curious, when, when do you guys find out on stage or after the show? We were actually on a break between sets. So we had, we had prepared, we probably had to play, it was either two or three sets, but we were on a break. It's one of the, again, it's one of those things. It's like so vivid in my mind that we were upstairs. Like you would go upstairs from the main floor of of
Starting point is 00:27:05 the club and gary's had an office there with all their stuff and there was a small room that was like the dressing room and so you'd sort of hang out between the two rooms and i remember being in the room which was like the gary's office and a call came either from gary because gary top i've learned subsequently because i didn't really remember this but he wasn't there that night he was hosting like an annual Christmas party. So he probably, I don't know if it was Gary, but somebody called the club to say, we just heard that John Lennon has been shot in New York.
Starting point is 00:27:33 We don't know anything else. And so we were like, wow, that's weird. And then, but then the radio was also playing in the room. It was whatever station it was. And like 10 minutes later or something, they came on to say, we just got news that John Lennon has been shot so i think the call that came to the edge was was either from gary or for somebody in new york trying to get a hold of the gary's to tell them as well like many people
Starting point is 00:27:52 learned that john lennon was dead because they were watching monday night football and howard kusel broke that news right so so we had the news up in the dressing room and then we went back out and i i have again, a vague memory that Gordon might've said something that like, he might've dedicated a song and said, this is for John or something, but left it at that because we didn't know more. We didn't know he was even dead at that point.
Starting point is 00:28:14 We just knew that he had been shot and was taken to the hospital. So as the years have gone on, for me, it's always been this weird, bittersweet memory because the world mourns John Lennon. But in my private world, I'm like, God, it was the greatest night of my life because of my first gig, you know, in that way. No, Matt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And you'll never, you know, every December 8th when we're talking about John Lennon and we're playing Imagine and you're going to remember that. But then you're going to remember where you were at the edge. And I can imagine. imagine and you're gonna remember that but then you're gonna remember where you were at the edge and uh yeah exactly and it's some of and i and over the years and i've learned that some friends of mine were also there like paul myers mike myers brother paul who was an author yeah yes okay he was at the show that night too like he would come and hang out like like i i don't know if he lived close by but you know would always want to go to the edge to check out new bands sure and i had seen him at some point over the last few years and he said oh yeah we wanted to check you guys out because we'd sort of heard
Starting point is 00:29:06 about you so he was there that night as well so that's in his memory of the night as well you know wow all right uh to turn the channel there we got to save uh all other deaths for when mark wiseblood visits next week okay for his really funeral home segment but i do want to shout out some fotms on the live chat right now so we are live at live.torontomic.com i just want to shout out some FOTMs on the live chat right now. So we are live at live.torontomike.com. I just want to quickly say hi to YYZ Gord. I mentioned I had beers with Cam Gordon. We love Cam Gordon. Can't wait to get him back on toast.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And I had beers with him on Friday. I want to make sure people know there's no rift between Cam and I. We've never been closer. We had beers last Friday. And joining us was YYZ Gord. So hello. In fact, I got to find out somebody. I had to go to another meeting and I had two octopus wants to fight.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And I can't remember. I gave someone five bucks and I know that doesn't cover two octopus wants to fight. So at some point I have to find out who paid for my beers. Okay. So hello, YYZ Gord. Let me know if I owe you 20 bucks or whatever. Lieve Fumka back from her vacation. Bob, you're back from a vacation to Jamaica, right?
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah, I was in Jamaica from November 30th till the 8th or so or something. You look, you got some color, you got some tan, you got some sun. It was... Vitamin D. It was the first vacation without kids. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:21 We've been to New York City a couple times for a few days, but this was the first full-on week in 12 years without children. Good for you. Who am I quickly here? Lieve Fumka back from her vacation. Good to see you, Lieve. Moose Grumpy in the live chat. Hello, Moose. Hey Ref is there.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Hey Ref points out when he hears us talking about death, he thinks of 1236 as well. Ian Service, he says Bob is short for bobert and can be he points out and i'm glad to hear this he says for a zoom guest he says rob sounds amazing so high praise from ian service there is that a technical compliment yeah like the mic the microphone sounds good the microphone yeah your content could use more no you need to drop more fotm names like paul myers okay no no cambrio's here as well i want to get that out of the way uh he says hi bob
Starting point is 00:31:11 he says hi rob he says hello moose hello tim because of course stew stone would refer to ian service as tim that's an inside joke uh let me see just catching up here uh my daughter morgan was testing this mic before bob got here and people seemed to enjoy that. Okay. So hello to all the FOTMs at live.torontomic.com. Rob, I wish you were here because that's not just a Pink Floyd song, but I wish you were here because I would give you a lasagna from Palma Pasta if you were here. I need another one.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I know. I need to come back in real life because I donated the last one to my sister and her family. Did she enjoy it? And I didn't get to try it. They loved it. Good answer. I know. They loved it.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Hello to Greg. I see Greg is also on the live stream even though I was just checking the chats. And O'Brien is here as well. And Tobias Vaughn who went to I've been practicing this all week. You ready? Cutter. How am I doing, Bob? You mean not Qatar? Cutter. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Because I said Qatar and Dave Hodge shamed me immediately. cutter how am i doing bob do you mean not qatar cutter sure because i said qatar and dave hodge shamed me immediately and he says well if anybody's here i've heard it's called qatar cutter so i'm trying to get it right but anyway hello to tobias vaughn who spent a couple weeks by the way that world cup final was fucking bananas insane just insane i loved it i loved it too i'm a huge soccer fan in general and wow it was I was literally falling asleep in the 65th minute like I was just like okay. It all changes that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Oh my God. It was nuts and it was but it was a hell of a game. It was and I didn't have a horse in the race really. No, no, no, no. Hello Tobias. I didn't have a horse in the race, but it was just a fun game. I didn't care to gross. He watches the horses race at Woodbine all the time. I do too, actually.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Okay, so I want to give you more gifts. Ridley Funeral Homes, speaking of them, this measuring tape is for you, Bob. Oh, thank you. How many phones do you have, Bob? I have two phones with me right now. What's that about? Well, so... You're a drug dealer?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah, yeah. One's a burner. No. So this girlfriend? This particular phone is a iPhone 8 from 2015, and it was my parting gift from Bell Media the first time I got fired. They didn't ask for it back? No.
Starting point is 00:33:14 It was the second time I got fired from 99.9. But, yeah, the only time I got fired by Bell. But it was me. Because it was standard the first time? Yeah, yeah. It was 99.9. Life lesson, don't go work at time? Yeah, yeah. It was. Yeah, it was 99. Life lesson. Don't go work at 99.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Bob, it's just not going to work for you. But so this phone is my personal phone. They said to me, my boss at the time, she said, you know, you can keep your phone. And I was like, oh, thank you very much. Anyways, this replacement value of 20 bucks. And this is my work phone from my friends at Chorus Entertainment for my two radio stations that I run.
Starting point is 00:33:51 So what is work? But you need the work one on the desk right now? That's how important you are? Always, of course. You never know if there's... They can't turn the lights on at Chorus Kingston? You never know. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:00 You never know. I might win another Program Director of the Year award. I got to get to jams. I got to get to jams. I got to get to jams. Get to the jams. I just want to say, Bob, you've got the best voice, but you know who your voice reminds me of a little bit? Who's that?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Seth Rogen. Oh, do I sound a little stoner-ish today? Shout out to Kana Cabana. It's interesting because I'm good at recognizing similarities between faces or voices and different things like that. But I've been listening to you thinking, who do you sort of remind me of? And I just realized it's a little Seth Rogen. He's got to slack it up a bit though, right?
Starting point is 00:34:33 Like a little more slack. I think I speak a little fast for a Vancouverite. You know who I get a lot? Who I actually get, and maybe if you saw, and I used to, maybe not so much anymore, but I used to get Strombo all the time. I used to get comparisons. Oh, really? I used to get comparisons to Strombo all the time. Canada's boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah. I was like, I'll take it, you know. I just had a Zoom with Strombo and Mary Jo Eustace. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Wow. Yeah. What a small world we live in.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Okay, my mind's blowing. We got to get to December jams before it's January. Okay, guys? This was a tough one. Yeah. This was a tough one. But I do want to thank- This was a tough one. This was a tough one.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I phoned Bob last week because Fred Patterson from the Humble and Fred show, we were on Zoom and he's like, Mike, I've got a whole box of dat tapes. He goes, we have to digitize these dat tapes. And I said, oh, I don't have anything that plays dat tapes. So I make a phone call to my
Starting point is 00:35:23 friend Bob Ouellette and I'm like, Bob, do you know how I could get a dad player? And Bob, I think, did you start making calls? I would have had one before you within a half an hour. Because you'd be bringing it to me today. Yeah, I would have. My buddy, Adam Robinson, he could have got us one. So, okay. So I'm getting a dad tape.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I'm doing this whole thing. Then Freddie P calls back, like, I don't know, 20 minutes later. Mike, Mike. Mike, Mike. Mike mike i can't do a fred patterson but mike they're not dad tapes they're cassette tapes that's a lot easier i have i know you can't see but i have i have a cassette player i kept one just you know because uh for nostalgic purposes i can digitize these cassette tapes with the hardware i have in-house so thank you bob though that you could have got-house. So thank you, Bob, though,
Starting point is 00:36:05 that you could have gotten me a dad tape. Do you want my mini player, mini disc player, too? Because I've got some old Humble and Fred bits on the mini disc. I need the content. We have an idea for the new year. Oh, good. We'll talk more about that one. All right, my friends, this is the order. So typically it's like Cam, then
Starting point is 00:36:22 me, then Stu. By the way, Levi Fumka is asking on the live chat which one of you is stew and which one of you two is uh cam i well i think um i think rob's got to be stew like like he brings the energy well he's just infinitely cooler and no offense to cam no offense to camp i mean cam's a good guy i I'm a good guy, but I'm not Hollywood movie or wrote Nova Heart cool. That's true, because Stu has written great pieces of music. He's a musician. I think the correlation is easy to figure out.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Creative types. I see. Stu Stone and Rob Prues are creative types that bring the energy. But I actually like to laugh at things. I'm like Cam, so that's different. Do you like comedy? Will you watch a comedic movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me things. I'm like Cam, so that's different. Do you like comedy? Will you watch a comedic movie? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Tell me why that's funny. Tell me why that's funny. Tell me why that's funny. Let's talk about Spinal Tap. I was just listening to that on the way in today. I think Cam's laughing on the inside, though. I think he's business on the outside, laughing on the inside. That's a good possibility.
Starting point is 00:37:21 For sure. I totally see that. He's got that face. I totally see that. You know what that face. I totally see that. You know what? One thing that Bob has in common with Cam, they're both very handsome men, so I'll give them that much.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Okay, so here's the order we're going to go in, guys. This is important. It's my show, so I've decided I get to, finally, I get to close, okay? So it's going to go Rob, then it's going to go Bob, then it's going to go Toronto Mike, in that order.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Rob did something strange where I asked for three jams and he gave me four. So when it's his second jam, we're going to go back to back just because I'm a nice guy. But I'm going to start with Rob Pruce's first December jam. Are you folks ready? Do it. Ready. High energy starter Start with a bang
Starting point is 00:38:10 A little on the nose, isn't it? I like it on the nose. you be why can't you believe how much you really mean
Starting point is 00:39:08 December All right, Rob, I know this song's called December, but let me know, who's the artist we're listening to right now? This is Nora Jones. And do you know who her father is? He's got a Beatles connection, actually, I think. Yeah, well, he was in the concert for Bangladesh with George. That's right. So he's somehow connected to George Harrison, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Big time, yeah, big time influence. That's why George brought the sitar and all that great instrumentation from India to the Beatles. Exactly. So it must be Ravi Shankar. I'll take Ravi Shankar. You are correct, sir. So tell me about this song, why you dig it. Well, first of all,
Starting point is 00:39:55 the job of finding songs with December jams, and I thought, well, okay. I looked in my iTunes library, and I typed in December to see what would come up and there wasn't a lot that came up. So I felt a little bit nervous about finding songs. And this song came up actually just called December. And so then I remembered, oh, I forgot about the song. And I've been trying to figure out where it came from. And I believe that it might've been an iTunes promotion. Like, do you remember in the early like mid 2000s they would release songs i don't know if it was like
Starting point is 00:40:29 a free download every week they were like when the music business was still trying to find itself in the new digital universe they would give away songs and i believe that this might have even been like a promotional thing for the new norwich i'll say this it sounds to me like i'm sitting in a starbucks exactly but in 2009 that was still not an unheard of thing for people to enjoy doing because we were all started sort of getting used to this this sound and starbucks was trying to get into the music business and they probably sold this at the front counter so this was the like a lead-in song to an album she released in 2009 i believe and it came up on my iTunes and I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:06 well, it's called December and we need December jams. So there it is. But here's my thing. So you remember, you submitted four jams, even though I very clearly asked for three. So you like this so much that it wasn't going to be left on the cutting room floor. Like this was going to be-
Starting point is 00:41:20 Because it's got December in the title. I thought that was part of the mission. So Bob, any thoughts on Nora Jones? I love Nora Jones. In 2005, when my wife and I got married, our last song of the evening that we danced to was Come Away With Me by Nora Jones. Big hit.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah, she's phenomenal. She really is. Yeah. I think she's got a great Christmas album too, actually, ironically. That is, you know, again, we'll get into this, I'm sure, as we go along. Our Christmas songs, December Jams,
Starting point is 00:41:50 is I think something that we will talk about. Absolutely, we'll talk about that. Hey, quick note coming in here. Moose Grumpy has deduced that both Cam Gordon and Bob Ouellette are East End Toronto guys. It's true, it's true. Actually, Cam and I live quite close to each other, and yet we've
Starting point is 00:42:07 never had a cocktail together or anything. We've got to figure that out. Well, if you came out for our Bentway beers that we had, but that was not... It's in the West End, though. Well, it's East of Yonge. We did it at Jarvis and Queen's Quay. Oh, Jarvis. Okay, Jarvis. It is
Starting point is 00:42:24 East of Yonge. It's across from the Chorus building. Well, that's not Bentway. Oh, Jarvis. Okay, Jarvis. It is east of Yonge. Like it's across from the Chorus building. Well, that's not Benway. No, no. We moved it because of weather. I was going to say the Benway is... Benway is Fort York. Yes. So like you're right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You're still west of Yonge, but we moved it to the Great Lakes Brewery. Thank you, Great Lakes, by the way. I'm enjoying my beverage and I'm enjoying Bob's company and Rob sounds like he's sitting in our basement here. So this is awesome. Coy and Vance saving the toast.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Which one is my Koi or am I Vance? That's to be discussed. We'll see that. All right. All right. So that's a great start. Cause I did not know that song. I like it when someone picks out a song.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I don't know. Well, for me, the tricky thing too was that because December was in the title and I was trying to think, well, like I was a little nervous trying to like find the theme, which is also why I gave you a couple of songs that don't even have december in the title either
Starting point is 00:43:08 but for me they became the sound of december but okay well you'll have to go to bat for all your jams obviously and we'll we'll be tough critics here but there's by no means does the word december have to be in the title like it has to be see that's what i december jam so apparently mike you weren't clear with the instructions. No, I said December jams. You then take that and you decide what that means to you and then you come and justify it to me. So, for example,
Starting point is 00:43:32 I'm going to kick out a Bob Ouellette December jam. That was also on my list. You ready, Bobby? What a shock. Here we go. Because I love this song. It's a great song. Even though it's very sad.
Starting point is 00:43:59 6 a.m. day after Christmas I throw some clothes on in the dark. The smell of cold, car seat is freezing, the world is sleeping, I am numb. No. Up the stairs to her apartment, she is balled up on the couch. Mom and dad went down to Charlotte. They're not home to find us out. And we drive. Now that I have found someone, I'm feeling more alone than I ever have before.
Starting point is 00:45:14 She's a-breaking, I'm drowning slowly. Off the coast and I'm heading nowhere. She's a-breaking up, drowning slowly. So pretty, Bob. I want to ask Rob what he thinks of the piano on this. I love Ben Folds. Yeah, Ben Folds 5. Yeah, I was just having a flashback.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I remembered seeing Ben at Lee's Palace. Oh, wow. I just Googled it real fast because I was like, God, I don't even remember when it was. It was June 1997. Yep. And I don't know if that was one of the first times he came to toronto but i was blown away like i loved whatever album came out that year but this came out at the end of that year right um but yeah love him no it's uh this this is december right like the 6 a.m day after christ, the smell of cold, like everything about this song is just easy. He builds such a beautiful picture.
Starting point is 00:46:09 He paints such a beautiful picture. And, you know, again, it is 97. We were playing another song on the edge on the Home Alone show. Army, yeah. Dad said, son, you're fucking high. That's right. So maybe it was 97 I started, not 98. Anyways.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I know more about this guy's career than he does. Apparently, yeah. But here's your fun fact. I love it. Ben Folds Five, a trio, not five of them. See? There you go. Now you get it.
Starting point is 00:46:40 That's what I'm looking for. There you go. There's your fun. There's your mind blow. Also, here's another mind blow. Sade is the name of the band. Isn't that the same thing with the Lee Aaron Project? Lee Aaron is the name.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And Alice Cooper, too. Right. That's right. I will say, here's my little, it's not a mind blow, but 97 is also the year that a band that most people would think is a one-hit wonder, Harvey Danger. Harvey Danger. You know, I talk about this album all the time when I'm on. Where Have All The Merrymakers Gone has a song. You love that album.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It's one of my favorite albums of all time. But it has a song called Problems and Bigger Ones, which is also about an abortion. And they both came out in the same year. Can I ask a question about Brick for a moment on that note? So when I always interpreted this as an abortion song, is it possibly a miscarriage song? Maybe. Only because now I'm listening to it
Starting point is 00:47:38 and now I'm really getting into it because clearly there's a baby being lost in utero. Shout out to Nirvana. Okay. But is it clearly an abortion song or could it be a miscarriage? Well, they drive some. Maybe for a DNC. You know, I've been there.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I've been there. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe. Did you see Ben's? I just went to the Wikipedia. Ben's quote on Brick. Okay, let's hear it. He says, people ask me what the song's about.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I was asked about it a lot, and I didn't really want to make a big hairy deal out of it because I just wanted the song to speak for itself. But the song is about when I was in high school, me and my girlfriend had to get an abortion, and it was a very sad thing. And I didn't really want to write the song from any kind of political standpoint or make a statement.
Starting point is 00:48:23 I just wanted to reflect what it feels like. So anyone who's gone through that will know what the song from any kind of political standpoint or make a statement. I just wanted to reflect what it feels like. So anyone who's gone through that, we'll know what the song is about. It's hauntingly beautiful. Like it is so sad and so gorgeous. And I, I've always loved that song. Oh,
Starting point is 00:48:35 absolutely. I have a, um, I have a sad Bob playlist, you know, if I ever want to be in that's like tops, tops right on it for sure. Uh,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I want to hear the boss side. That'll be our January toast. Sad jams. Sad jams. Oh, I love sad jams. I do too. Me too. I love sad songs and I love ballads.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I love, we've talked about this before. I love 80s ballads. I love sad songs. I think sad songs, much like Billy. Well, like as Elton John says, sad songs say so much. And sad songs that make me cry yeah billy ocean doesn't he have a sad song there you go yeah okay i think we have a good topic for next uh for next month but thank you for kicking that out because if you didn't kick it out i was
Starting point is 00:49:14 gonna kick it out because it's true it does set you in that boxing day vibe yeah very very sad all right my turn this is exciting uh again I heard Bob say that your jam Rob was a little on the nose well you want something on the fucking nose Bob Willett you ready I saw this and I said no I'm not going to do that low hanging fruit I felt like someone should pick it
Starting point is 00:49:43 I didn't want to get Hanson'd. Just took my son to reach up the man You can't run it over again Don't scream about, don't think aloud Turn your head now, baby, just spit me out Don't worry about, don't speak about Turn your head now baby, just spit me out All right, everybody. This song is called December by Collective Soul. And I think it's probably an obvious pick for us Gen Xers
Starting point is 00:51:03 to kick out December by Collective Soul. 1995. 1995, absolutely. This is on the album entitled Collective Soul. Self-titled. Self-titled, right. The first one was Hints, Allegations, and Things Left Unsaid. And that first album, which I bought on CD because of how much I love the song Shine.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That's right. Oh, yeah. It's got a classic 1995 vocal though doesn't he like Ed Roland is a really interesting guy I actually interviewed him when I was at
Starting point is 00:51:30 tell us about that when I was at 94.9 The Rock and he was doing a solo project and I had a really interesting conversation with him
Starting point is 00:51:37 and the thing that stands out to me is like how do you know something is an Ed Roland song or is something a collective soul song
Starting point is 00:51:44 and his answer was oh the band will tell me. Oh, wow. He'll write it. He'll play a song as an Ed Rowland song. They're like, no, no. That's fucking Collective Soul, dude. Get out of here. Oh, that's cool. So you guys, I don't know if you have the same, but when Shine broke,
Starting point is 00:51:58 it was like the song of the summer. Oh, it was huge. Was it 93? I can't remember what summer that was. Maybe 93. I don't know, but that was 94 maybe 93 I don't know but that summer Shine was everywhere and I once we once did a thing
Starting point is 00:52:10 where you had to kick out three jams that had the same title and I went with Shine because I love that Shine Junk House Junk House is Shine I kicked out
Starting point is 00:52:17 and the Doughboys have a great Shine right like is that a great trifecta of Shines it really is there you go you could have played Shinehead, too.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Don't give me none of that. Don't give me none of that. Don't give me none of that crack crack. I was like, am I crazy? But I don't smoke crack. That's right. Big Munch Music Jam. I love that jam.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Okay. So this was their highest charting single until The World I Know. Same album, right? Which I think that came out, yeah, that was later in 1996. That comes out March 96. It hits number one, I think. But Collective Soul, I have a little mind, not really a mind blow,
Starting point is 00:52:48 but I do want to play a little something here, just a little take from it. You see, when you're the host, you can do that. Well, you can send it to me. I know Rob sent me one. Thank you. Who's this? This is Iron Cross.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Myanmar. Am I saying that right? A Myanmar rock band. Wow. A little taste of Iron Cross. It's a little stereo action here, right? Got the vocals just in the right. Until I'm nearly There's a little, there's a cover by Iron Cross.
Starting point is 00:54:04 See, I thought you were going to tell me that this was, they did this first. There's a little, there's a cover by Iron Cross. I thought you were going to tell me that this was, they did this first. And then, you know, and then Ed Roland stole it. No, that would be a big mind blow. This is actually a collective soul original. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, any, you said you interviewed them, you interviewed ed right yeah with the soul project uh have you had any interactions with the good people that collective soul mr rob pruse
Starting point is 00:54:32 i have not just just appreciated their music from afar but it does make me reflect on the mid 90s and the sound of the mid 90s because there's something in his voice that's so familiar from a lot of the music that was being released. There's a little Smashing Pumpkins in his voice. Live? Do you hear live in there? Live as well. He puts this little grunge, this little push
Starting point is 00:54:55 in his voice that reminds me of Billy Corgan in a way as well. It was just sort of the thing that guys did at that time. It's super cool, but I sort of forgot about this song. I love it. So this is Collective Soul. I always wondered if anyone got confused between Collective Soul and Soul Asylum because they're kind of on the same stations at the same time.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Right. Runaway Train, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. And more. Misery Loves Company. And that great cover of the Victoria Williams song, Summer of Drugs.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Do you know this song? Do you know? Okay, I'm sitting beside the world's biggest Pearl Jam fan. So you, of course, know Crazy Mary. Yes. He might be familiar with Crazy Mary. Okay. Crazy Mary is, of course, for the benefit,
Starting point is 00:55:37 the sweet relief, a benefit for Victoria Williams. That's a Victoria Williams song. On that same CD, which I'm sure you probably own, because I do, is Soul Asylum covering Summer of Drugs and it's my second favorite song on the album and it's like the best
Starting point is 00:55:52 Summer of Drugs by Soul Asylum. That's cool. So Bob's going to go home and stick that CD in there. Well, it's interesting. Well, my second favorite song besides Crazy Mary on that album
Starting point is 00:56:03 is actually Is it Buffalo Tom? No, it's Frying Pan by Evan Dando. Okay. Of the Lemonheads. Of course. Of the Lemonheads. But all that being said, going back to what Rob's talking about there, about that affectation a little bit of the voice,
Starting point is 00:56:15 I think a lot of people blame Eddie Vedder for that. I mean, you know, all of a sudden Creed and Three Doors Down and all these guys come along and they're gonna... Don't forget Scott Weiland. Scott Weiland. Yeah, Scott Weiland. Absolutely. When Plush came out, my buddies all joked it was a Pearl Jam song.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Eddie just kind of did that. It was kind of one of the things that separated the band from everybody else. And he actually went back. I don't know if you know, all these remasters from 2009, he went back and re-voiced them all so he's not quite as... He actually has gone back
Starting point is 00:56:47 because he doesn't want to be remembered as that guy who went... Interesting. Yeah. So, Bob, let me ask you. I know you probably would sing Pearl Jam to your kids when they were young. I did.
Starting point is 00:56:57 So the song I used to always sing was Black, okay? That's a sad one. Yeah, well... I know someday you'll have a beautiful life. I know you'll be a star in somebody else's sky. Why can't it be mine? That's not sad one. Yeah, well. I know someday you'll have a beautiful life. I know you'll be a star in somebody else's sky. Why can't it be mine? That's not good. But it is.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Well, you don't need to know the lyrics, at least that one. By the way, Ben Rayner in the calendar. He's coming into the basement on December 10th, and we're going to kick out more jams and catch up. I've only mentioned Ben Rayner. Did you say December 10th? That's like past. January 10th. He's going backwards in time.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, yeah, exactly. These are January jams. Okay, we got to get moving here. And if anyone has to pee, just let the song start and then go pee because that's how we roll on this program. Look at how comfortable you are. Okay, so we're going back to back because Rob broke the rules. Okay. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So we're going to start with this one, his second jam. He has two here. He likes the high tempo jams. That's right. I'm bringing it up for December. Oh, my heart rate. That's good. Terima kasih telah menonton talk to me Robbie there's no way to fade out of this in an easy way right because it just goes on
Starting point is 00:59:23 and it just it keeps a mood. I can't miss the post at least. Yeah, you're not going to walk the vocals. Yeah. This, for me, like the whole idea of summer song, I mean, December songs and summer songs, December songs, like it's a bit, like it's a reflective time of year, right?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Like, I mean, we're getting into the Christmas season and like there's something in there that's, you're starting to like it's the, it's a reflective time of year, right? Like, I mean, we're getting into the Christmas season and like, there's something in there that's you're, you're starting to like head into the new year and you're sort of winding it up, but, but you know, it's, it becomes like more of like a traditional sort of a feeling.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And this album is by George Winston and it was released in the fall of 82. It's called December. This piece of music. it's so it's an instrumental piano album and this was like a huge million selling album that came out in the fall of 82 and it was sort of like like early days in the whole I guess what people would now maybe call ambient slash new age sounding records this was released on a label called windham hill which has released lots and lots and lots of beautiful records and this this album was such a big seller that it helped them get a larger profile because it was such a big selling album
Starting point is 01:00:35 and george winston he made this album you know it's it's just solo piano music it's variations on classical music and on christmas some christmas carols and some original music and i have like a um a memory of this album listening to it on a cassette in the christmas winter of 82 because we were doing our first spoons tour across canada and when we went first time leaving ontario and going out to vancouver and going to calgary and edmonton and playing it was like a week and a half and then down the west coast of the u.s for first time as well. And I had a few cassettes with my Walkman. And this was one of the things I listened to nonstop. So for me, it's like, it's a wintry feeling playing this album. Um, but then I went to the Wikipedia page just to sort of look at it as well to see, like, I couldn't find any like, like mind blowing facts, but there were good old reviews where people say
Starting point is 01:01:22 this one review said, this is the mother of all solo instrumental albums um for good reason winston produces a solo album of unparalleled and undeniable beauty music that is simultaneously stirring and soothing relaxed get exalted and that's exactly what i feel like it is so that's it's beautiful and i kind of recognized it and i'm not a instrumental music guy but in 1985 my, I was nine, my dad became a mobile DJ with a company here in Toronto called Disc Jockeys Unlimited, which was the biggest DJ company in the city at the time. And this would have been in his kit because the company actually gave him a library of music, and I can remember this being in his kit for dinner music for sure yeah it totally sounds familiar well especially because at that time there weren't a lot of sort of mainstream instrumental piano albums in that way right like even like of course for us now in this season charlie brown christmas vince guraldi gets played to death yeah which is a
Starting point is 01:02:20 fantastic thing but this george winston album I think was one of those slow burners that over the years people have realized, oh, that was one of the first piano, like solo piano instrumental albums that I had that wasn't strictly classical music. It was sort of like merging into a new world. Like we've come to learn through the 80s and into the 90s.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Like a David Foster type thing? Yeah. Kind of, yeah. I remember like compilations, like cool piano moods or something, you know, like that kind you know shout out to joe and tash yeah yeah so this this is really like the beginning of all that kind of sound and george winston is a real groundbreaking guy in that way especially this piece that we played called joy was based on a classical piece by j.s bach called jesu uh joy of man's des, which is a very famous classical piece which has been played
Starting point is 01:03:05 and was done on organ and piano and everybody does it. We all know Bach. He was a lead singer for Skid Row. Sebastian, yeah, exactly. Hey, I got a shout out by COVID brother Tom, who's married to YYZ Gord. I'm getting this update from YYZ Gord, but he
Starting point is 01:03:21 lets me know that Tom knew that was George Winston. They were guessing, is it Rick Wakeman? There was some conversation in the chat. I'm getting this update from YYZ Gore, but he lets me know that Tom knew that was George Winston. So he, they were guessing, is it Rick Wakeman? There was some conversation in the chat, but George Winston, and he also knew that he had an album called December.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Nice. I love it. Again, second jam you kicked out, I'm unfamiliar with. So thank you, Rob Bruce. Well,
Starting point is 01:03:41 you got to listen to the whole album, the whole, I mean, it was hard to pick one song just because the album is called December. I just thought this is, something from this album is going to be good. So I sort of went with this, but the whole thing just start to finish is gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And remember, you're getting a twofer here. So you're getting another jam here since you broke all the rules here. And I'm too nice to tell you to go F off, Mr. Pruce. Here we go. This one's going to lift it up. Okay. Oh yeah, it sure is. I'm going to just do that.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Bob's cracking open his 666, his pale ale. Oh, yeah. Rob's really rocking here. He's a piano player. I know, but... Elton John's a piano player. I know, but Elton John's a piano player. Where's the Billy Joel?
Starting point is 01:04:29 It's coming up. So this is evidence Rob is not our stew stone. Because he'd find a Toto song that had something to do with December. find a Toto song that had something to do with December. Could I ever explain This feeling of love It just lingers on The fear in my heart that
Starting point is 01:05:01 Keeps telling me which way to turn. Well, wonder again how close they are well. The End The width of a room that can hold so much pleasure inside You can fade it out if you want. You're the boss, Pruce. Talk to me. Yeah, yeah. So the sound of this record is a December sound for me. And it's sort of related to George Winston, I guess. It's that same...
Starting point is 01:06:14 I'm going back so long. You know, when I was a kid and it was our first cross-Canada tour with The Spoons. And remind us, you're only 15, right? No, by that time I was getting old. I was 17. 17! You're an time I was getting old. I was 17. 17! You're an old bet.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I was starting to take life more seriously, yeah. But this is the band Japan, and this is a song called Night Porter, which was on an album that they released in 1980 called Gentlemen Take Polaroids. But they released this song as a single in the fall, winter of 82. I think the band might have even already broken up at that point. But I already knew this song.
Starting point is 01:06:52 But I had this song on a mixtape that I had made in that winter of 82. So as I was listening to George Winston and traveling the country for the first time and all those things, the sound of this record is just one of those things that feels like wintertime. Like, I think there are songs, I mean, like, Brick is a December jam, but I guess I went a little selfishly
Starting point is 01:07:11 into my own memories of December as well. As is your right. Be selfish. It's okay. Because I didn't know all the rules. But that's why I stuck
Starting point is 01:07:19 two extra, I put those two back to back. Let's put it this way. Cam Gordon once kicked out, what's the Nine Inch Nails song? March of the Pigs for Spring Jams.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Well, that's something. All you need to know is that to know that anything can go here on the show. I'll just tell you a quick story because I have on these old CFNY guys all the time. Japan was a big band for CFNY so you'll hear like Ivor Hamilton or David Marsden
Starting point is 01:07:45 talking about when Japan visited and big deal, big deal. And they were a big band. And so the other thing is that their producer, John Punter, produced our album, Aries and Symphonies. Oh, wow. And produced Nova Heart for us. That was the first song we did together. And then he came back later the same year to do Aries.
Starting point is 01:08:02 But I used to listen to this record in, in like early spoons days and think, God, these records are amazing. So when we knew we were going to work with Japan's producer, it was super exciting for us as well to think that this guy that was helping create that sound was going to come and work with us. So. When I was at AM 640 and they were moving a Q107 and 640 down from Young and Norton, I scooped a whole bunch of vinyl from the old
Starting point is 01:08:28 Q107 library. And I am 99% sure I have this album from the Q107 library. I have a bunch of Japan. It was just stuff that Jeff Woods and Alan Cross didn't want. The two guys who took most of it, because I've had the story from both of them,
Starting point is 01:08:44 is, you're right, it's Alan Cross and Ivor Hamilton Are you talking about the CFNY one? Oh, I'm talking about the CFNY No, this is the Q107 This is the Q107 one It's amazing all the stuff that Q107 didn't play That they had in the library anyway All this old
Starting point is 01:08:59 And it's got the tape around it So you have it now in your basement? Yes I have at least And it's got the tape around it. So you have it now in your basement? Yes. Yes. I'm 90. I have at least two different Japan albums, and it might be this one. Wow. I got to admit, I've never put it on, but now I'm going to put it on because that's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And that's it. Japan is, I will say this, again, Bob and I are a little similar vintage. Although, and even though Rob's not that much older than us, he musically matured so much younger than us. Rob, were you born in like 72? Oh, 65. 65. I'm old born in like 72? Oh, 65. 65. Oh, okay. I find people who are
Starting point is 01:09:30 like, so being born in 76 versus the early 70s, the musical landscape is so different. Oh, yeah. I just actually was just traveling with somebody who it was his 50th birthday and he finished high school in 86 and i
Starting point is 01:09:46 finished and i finished high or um no he finished high school in 90 and i finished high school in 94 and the difference of music between 90 and 94 is ridiculous anyways oh yeah no good point well but but well and for me the thing is with with because i am a musician and i've stayed i've tried to stay current with listening to music and being aware of new music, the music you guys talk about, which is maybe why I've always loved listening to Mike and like all the people you talk about music with it's, it's the era of music that I continued listening to while I was in the world of musical theater. So yeah, I spent the eighties, you know, being in the rock bands and doing all this stuff. But then I got into the world of musical theater as a, as a pit musician, but I stayed current
Starting point is 01:10:24 listening to music, not really making the music, though. So I listened to it all from a different perspective, but still sort of like with professional ears at the same time, you know? Love it. And you are being born in 65, that does qualify you to listen to Toronto Mike because you are Gen X. So you satisfy that criteria. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:41 That's right. I want to hear more about that musical stuff because I love musicals in the 90s. Proust is a big deal in the Broadway scene. Like, Proust is a big deal. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:10:52 More than just a pretty face. Okay, Bob Ouellette, anything to say before, and I love that you were kicking this out. I love this song. Can I, do you want to say anything
Starting point is 01:11:01 before I kick it or do you just want me to do it? No, we could have an argument whether or not it's a December song or a Christmas song, I suppose. Okay, let's play it, and then we'll get into that fight.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Yeah. But I love his voice. Lost Nowhere to go Oh, when I was a kid Oh, how magic this seemed Oh, please let me sleep It's Christmas time Eddie Vedder! Oh, Pearl Jam, Let Me Sleep. Do you think it's called... Isn't It's Christmas Time, that's in parentheses, right?
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah, it's actually called Let Me Sleep, and in parentheses, It's Christmas Time. We once kicked out yeah it's actually called let me sleep and in parentheses it's Christmas time when we once kicked out parentheses jams would have been a good one okay tell me why as if I need to ask well I mean here's the thing it is it was the very first Christmas single that Pearl Jam did about you know they
Starting point is 01:12:38 were 10 club single they do it every year they actually just say this they're not doing it now they just announced that they are not going to be doing the Christmas singles anymore. You get a 45. Even all through the early 90s, when nobody was making vinyl, you would get a 45
Starting point is 01:12:53 if you were a member of the Pearl Jam 10 Club. Which was awesome. And this was the very first one. This particular song was written, my understanding is, I don't know if this is a mind blow or not, but you know that famous show with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam?
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah. Bruce, you getting a phone call? What's going on there? Sorry. Is that Gord? Yeah. This song was written on that tour apparently, is what they say. Before they really broke big, they were opening for the Chili Peppers
Starting point is 01:13:25 across North America and then it really came to light again when it was featured on Lost Dogs which was their B-Sides release double CD set but it was also featured in Imagine and Cornice which was the film they did of their
Starting point is 01:13:41 Italian tour and there's a scene with just Eddie and Mike McCready at the top of this old, essentially Roman ruin place. And they sing it. And it kind of, it's not, this is what makes me think it's not necessarily a Christmas song because this was like in the middle of the summer
Starting point is 01:13:57 they played it. But it is, you know, I mean, the lyrics, it does say, please let me see. Okay, let's have that chat right now because many a time I would say like during, I don know a uh festivus episode of elvis or something we'll kick out our favorite christmas songs and i always include that that's one of my favorite christmas songs so i would say it's a bit of a russian dolls thing here like uh christmas songs are also december jams yeah i think we could i think they could they could live in both worlds. I chose not to go the Christmas route,
Starting point is 01:14:25 except for this one, I guess. Only 33.3% of your jams are Christmas songs. Right. There you go. Well, I mean, is it Die Hard a Christmas movie? I guess this is a Christmas song. I mean, it's Christmas time, but it just has that feel for me.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I mean, I know. You know what's great? I'm going to do this again with Retro Ontario on Thursday, by the way. Don't miss Christmas Crackers Volume 5. There there'll be some overlapping content but one thing i want to say is i just watched on uh what's damn it what's the streaming service canopy canopy you get it when you uh when you have a toronto uh library card okay you can stream movies on canopy i just watched uh Silent Partner on Canopy on the weekend and I feel like that was like
Starting point is 01:15:07 the diehard origin thing. Like it's a Christmas movie. There's Santa, Christopher Plummer, some shit goes down. So Toronto, this is like the most Toronto movie
Starting point is 01:15:17 this side of Strange Brew. Like it's so unabashedly Toronto and I'm just here to recommend it to everybody. 1978. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Check it out. Okay, now I'm going to be, I'm going to to recommend it to everybody. 1978. That's cool. Check it out. Okay, now I'm going to actually bring it up because John Candy's in this movie but he's not with somebody who directed a Stu Stone movie who passed away in 2022 and that's the gentleman Lawrence Dane that I'm going to talk to Ed Conroy about on
Starting point is 01:15:41 Thursday. So we'll tease that and I'll tell you, Bob, I enjoyed your choice there of Let Me Sleep by Pearl Jam. Oh, thanks. I think it's a unique song for them. As you know, I don't think I can kick out jams without including a Pearl Jam song. You like Pearl Jam?
Starting point is 01:15:58 Just a little bit. I've seen them 40 plus times. Don't you think it's neat when you think about bands from our youth, Bob, and of course you as well, Mr. Proust, but like so many bands have a member or two
Starting point is 01:16:10 or three who have passed away by this point and nobody in Pearl Jam has died. Knock it on wood here. I'm not saying it. Jesus Christ, man. Name another band
Starting point is 01:16:18 like, you know, the Pumpkins lost somebody. Of course, Soundgarden lost their lead singer. You know, Lane Staley's long gone. Wyland's gone gone they have some longevity
Starting point is 01:16:27 and all lost bassist too like there's not many grungy bands that have their full lineup intact no and I will thank you to shut your mouth right now I don't have the power shout out to Ridley Funeral I don't have the power to kill anybody
Starting point is 01:16:43 I want to get to my jam you guys have one more i've got two more and i got a little mind blow here let's mix it up a bit something a bit different here sean carter was born december 4th weighing in at 10 pounds 8 ounces He was the last of my four children. The only one who didn't give me any pain when I gave birth to him. And that's how I knew that he was a special child. Hi baby. What's wrong? You look like you've lost your best friend.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Tell me. Is it something that I've done again? You look like you've lost your best friend. They say they never really miss you till you dead or you gone So on that note, I'm leaving after the song So you ain't gotta feel no way about Jay so long But at least let me tell you why I'm this way, hold on I was conceived by Gloria Carter and Agnes Reeves
Starting point is 01:17:37 Who made love under the sycamore tree, which makes me A more sicker MC and my mama would claim At ten pounds when I was born i didn't give her no pain i'll go through the years i gave her her fish yeah i gave her first real skin i made it for birth when i got here she knows my purpose wasn't purpose i ain't perfect i care but i'm for purpose because my shirts wasn't matching my gear now i'm scratching the surface because what's buried under there was a kid torn apart once his pop disappeared i went to school got good grades could behave when i wanted but i had demons deep inside that would raise me and get fronting.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Hold on. Sean was a very shy child growing up. He was into sports. And a funny story is... That's Jay-Z's mom. So, this song is called December 4th. It is a Jay-Z song that appears on his eighth album, which is called The Black Album.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And the big news at the time, I remember this came out in 2003. He was kind of promoting it as his final album before he retired. Spoiler alert. He unretires like, I don't know, two or three. He comes back. He did not stay retired, but he promoted this as his final album and he was retiring but okay
Starting point is 01:18:47 so this is called The Black Album and I enjoy The Black Album he's got a whole bunch of different producers on this album but I'll get to that in a minute
Starting point is 01:18:53 but there was a another album that came out which was a guy named Danger Mouse so I'm glad Bob is back from draining his main vein here because
Starting point is 01:19:04 there was a mashup album by Danger Mouse that came out in 2004. The Grey Album. The Grey Album. Bob knows this, and it was amazing. I know it too. You know it too, Robbie. He took the Black Album. Okay, everybody stay with me here.
Starting point is 01:19:17 He took Jay-Z's The Black Album, and he took The Beatles' self-titled album, which we know as The White Album, and he smashed them up. And if we could all self-titled album, which we know as the White Album, and he smashed them up. And if we could all listen for a moment here as your DJ. They say they never really miss you Till you dead or you gone So on that note I'm leaving after the song So you ain't gotta feel no way about Jace so long But at least let me tell you why I'm this way Hold on I was conceived by Gloria Carter and Agnes Reeds
Starting point is 01:19:55 Who made love on the sycamore tree Which makes me a more sicker MC My mama would claim at 10 pounds when I was born I didn't give her no pain My soul through the years I gave her her fish Yeah, I gave her a first real scare i made it from birth when i got here she knows my purpose wasn't purpose i ain't perfect i care but i feel worthless because my shirts wasn't matching my care now i'm scratching the surface because what's buried under there was a kid torn apart once his pop disappeared i went to school got good grades could be hate
Starting point is 01:20:21 when i want it but i had demons deep inside that were raised from confronting. Hold on. Sean was a very shy child growing up. He was into sports. And a funny story is, at four, he told us about... Okay, so if people have not heard the Grey album, just stop what you're doing, because I'm about to ruin... The image and the style that you're used to?
Starting point is 01:20:42 I look funny. But you're making money. See? Yo, world, I hope you're ready for me. Now gather round. I'm the new fool in town in the South Lake
Starting point is 01:20:50 down by the underground. I drink a bowl of Hennessy you got on your shelf. So just let me introduce myself. All right. Don't bother. We could do the whole song. I could do it all day.
Starting point is 01:20:59 I could do that entire album. I could do that entire album. I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom. Okay. They call me crazy. Allow me to amaze you. Get going.
Starting point is 01:21:10 You say I'm ugly, but just don't faze me. Okay. Let's get serious for a moment. Go find the Grey album. Danger Mouse. He's still putting out great shit, by the way. Danger Mouse. This guy's talented.
Starting point is 01:21:21 But I just want to say an interesting fun fact about the Grey album is that EMI wanted to stop this. You don't have the rights to distribute this black album, these samples, you know, the Beatles and White Album. EMI tries to stop this. And Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr, the two
Starting point is 01:21:39 surviving Beatles, step up and say, we love this. Leave it alone and that's a cool move by Paul and Ringo so also if anybody's interested in finding it today there's a website called the internet archive
Starting point is 01:21:54 and you can listen to the whole thing and get it there it still exists and it's still alive go listen because it spent a lot of time being spun in my win amp yeah that's amazing that's right did you download it from uh limewire limewire so okay there's a little bonus fun fact go ahead bob no no so so your december track is the original version yeah the original black is that produced by rick rubin like no but here i got a fun fact about the
Starting point is 01:22:23 production so jay-z for this black, he wanted like all these different producers. Like I think almost every song is a different producer. And a lot of names you know. A lot of names we used to respect and we don't respect as much now. But a lot of people you know are producing. This particular song, December 4th, is produced by a guy named Jest Blaze. So shout out to Kenna Cabana, Jest Blaze. I almost shouted out the wrong people and he's still alive, Jest Blaze. So shout out to shout out to Kana Cabana. Jess Blaze. I almost shouted out
Starting point is 01:22:45 the wrong people and he's still alive. Jess Blaze. I'm going to just play a little bit of another banger that Jess Blaze produced. Are you guys sitting down?
Starting point is 01:22:54 Are you ready Rob Pruse? Ready. This is a banger. Go let's go. This is special what's happening to all my all my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, and start being thankful for what you do, guys. Let's give it to them, baby girl. Hey. DJ Bingo Bob, is there a better fucking jam to get people hyped? Come on. Oh, yeah. But I mean, yes.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Don't take it so literally. Well, it's a fine song. It's a banger. Did I ever tell you when I saw Rihanna at the Danforth Music Hall? Tell me that story right now. Yeah. She was doing a promo tour. I was with Proud FM at the time, and she was doing a seven nights and seven continents thing,
Starting point is 01:24:07 and it was night two. She was flying all around the world, or seven countries, not continents, and saw her at the Danforth Music Hall, and she was... Yeah, it was very cool to see her. She seemed so disinterested to be there, though. It was ridiculous. It was like, oh, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:24:24 She just kept... What's my name? there, though. It was ridiculous. It was like, oh, nah, nah. She just kept... What's my name? Yeah. But yeah, phenomenal artist. And just blazing. I've heard a bunch of stuff. I think she's doing Super Bowl this year. I think.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Wow. Quote me on that, because I'm pretty sure it's true. Now, of course, just to let us know, this is actually... Yeah, the feature is Rihanna, but this is a TI song. It's on the TI album. And that was a great album, as I recall. And live your life, man. I always thought that was a great pop song.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Like, Rob, I don't know. You have a good year for pop, but it's like. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, this is the same producer as the December 4th jam. So, I thought I'd kind of tie it all together here.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Okay, everybody, we're down to one more jam each man rob and i have like mind blows to tie to ours but uh we start with you anything to say rob pruse before we kick out your final jam before we begin it yeah uh no but it's a little it's another one you understand would have a whole speech to say before i kicked out really yeah well i don't have a whole speech, but December is in the title. And as soon as you said December jams and in my head, when I thought, Oh my God,
Starting point is 01:25:30 I have to think of songs with December in the title. This was the first song that came into my head because for most of my life as a musician, as a pop musician, this song has been in my life and I I play it often because I learned to play it when I was like 10 years old. So now you know it's an old pop song. But it was on the radio, and I always wanted to play whatever song had a piano. My ear was tuned to the radio. If it was Elton John or Queen, of course, I knew there was piano. But any other songs that would come up,
Starting point is 01:26:01 I would be like, I need to learn to play this song. So one of the first songs that I had sheet music for to learn how to play was this jam. Oh, what a night Late December back in 63 What a very special time for me As I remember what a night Oh, what a night You know I didn't even know her name But I was never gonna be the same What a lady, what a night Oh, I
Starting point is 01:27:00 Got a funny feeling when she walked in the room And my time recorded ended far too soon One night Hypnotizing, mesmerizing me She was everything I needed It's absolutely a December jam and it's a good one. Well done, Rob Bruce. Woo-hoo! Woo!
Starting point is 01:27:34 Okay, now that we're all awake again, first up, tempo jam from Rob Bruce tonight, by the way. Okay. Talk to me more. I know you put it on the preamble here, but what? 10-year-old rob is learning to play like piano to this uh song learning pop songs because i had already been playing i i had a teacher that was teaching me classical piano oh yeah you already knew your rockman off yeah rockman enough
Starting point is 01:27:56 no oh is that say it again rockman and all i only know it for the movie speaking of shine remember we talked earlier but yeah shine exactly that's right. Jeffrey Rush. Jeffrey Rush. I loved that movie. Oh my God, yeah. That's fucking great, right? Uh-huh. So I had started piano lessons when I was five, five and a half,
Starting point is 01:28:13 learning the basics and learning scales and then my teacher took me through the Royal Conservatory stuff where you have like really simple piano songs but then when I was like eight or nine,
Starting point is 01:28:22 actually when I was eight, I wanted to learn The Entertainer by Scott Joplin because it was on the radio, because there was a movie that came out called The Sting, and Marvin Hamlisch did all the music, and so I was like this song is on the radio, it's solo piano, I need to learn it. And I learned it.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Is that Paul Newman? Paul Newman and Robert Redford, yeah. But the song, this solo piano song was on the radio like as a single, like a hit song almost. And I took it to my teeth. Exactly. I played that on your piano.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Didn't I play that on your piano in your living room? I think I did. You did. I played Mr. Dress Up. Well, you did that at TML. Yes, you also played that at TMLX. That's right. No, 10.
Starting point is 01:29:02 10, 10, 10. X, that's right. But this song was one of the first pop songs I started to teach myself because now that I was getting able to read sheet music I would get the song
Starting point is 01:29:12 get the music and could play along with the records But of course it's like one of the few songs that I think of that has December in the title What's the credit to? Is it to Frankie Valli
Starting point is 01:29:23 in the Four Seasons? No This is just the Four Seasons And so the four seasons no this is just the four seasons and so the weird thing with this song is that it was written by bob gaudio who wrote all the frankie valley in the four seasons hits in the 60s and he was the original like the main guy for the band he wrote the song with with this woman named judy who became his future wife and the song was sort of about the beginnings of their relationship and i went to the wikipedia page and it says that originally he wanted to call it december 5th 1933 because it
Starting point is 01:29:52 was celebrating the repeal of prohibition so from from our day today we're dealing with with a song idea from 90 years ago which is crazy and so he changed it yeah oh frankie valley was like like this is too old. We can't, we can't deal with something from prohibition. So he changed, changed it to 63, even though the song didn't come out until 75,
Starting point is 01:30:12 76, it was a number one hit in America and a number one hit in Canada. That's a big jam. And, and there's three different singers on this song as well. So, so it's not, okay,
Starting point is 01:30:22 because, okay, so Jersey boys is, that was on Broadway, right? Jersey boys. Yep. Yep. production rob pruse i did not i have many friends who worked on it but but i have a fun weird fact about this that i only learned this week about jersey boys so the main singer on this song was the drummer there There's three different singers on this song. Frankie Valli only sings on the bridge of the song, which is the middle section. Because he's the falsetto guy, right?
Starting point is 01:30:51 Well, there's another falsetto. The bass player, his name is Don Ciccone. He sings the falsetto parts. I felt a rush like a rolling ball of thunder. That's Don, the bass player. Frankie sings, I got a funny feeling when she walked. But, you know, higher. And then Jerry, the drummer, sings bass player. Frankie sings, I got a funny feeling when she walks. But, you know, higher.
Starting point is 01:31:05 And then Jerry, the drummer, sings the verses. Oh, what a night, ladies. That's Jerry. So there's three different singers. So what I learned from doing my research for the song is that Jerry, the drummer,
Starting point is 01:31:19 married Frankie Valli's daughter. Oh. That's awkward. And the daughter... Yeah, well, in the the night this was like in the late 80s or in the 90s he married frankie's daughter and they had a daughter and the daughter became went on to become a broadway performer and she she did musicals like wicked but she did jersey boys the musical and she played her own grandmother wow she became She became, yeah, in the musical. So Frankie's granddaughter played his wife,
Starting point is 01:31:48 which is like bizarre. And of course, I never actually saw Jersey Boys, but the history has it. Early in the origin of the four seasons, that's where Joe Pesci shows up, right? Exactly, that's right. I just imagine he was in the group and then he said, I'm going to act.
Starting point is 01:32:04 And he just kind of quits the band. Is that right, Bob? Have you seen Jersey Boys? I actually have not. I've seen a lot of musicals and I never did see it. We're 0 for 3 here. I've never seen it either. I mean, I saw...
Starting point is 01:32:14 It was at that North York Theatre forever, the North York at Shepard and Young. Oh, yeah, it was for the Ford Theatre for a while. Were you talking about the North York Centre for the Arts? Yes, that's the one. That's where Show Boat and Sunset Boulevard was played. And Ragtime began there as well.
Starting point is 01:32:30 I actually saw the Million Dollar Quartet there. And I think I saw Shrek the musical there as well. Oh, wow. Is that featuring the music of Smash Mouth? Speaking of, see, we talked about Paul Myers.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Yes, right. We talked about Paul Myers earlier, and there's a Mike Myers role, Shrek. That's right. So to get us back on track, there's a bit of a mind blow here. Do you want me to just start playing this little? Oh, yeah, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Okay. Poison. A little new Jack Swing. Yeah. Poison. New Jack Swing. Yeah. Poison. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I hear it.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I hear it. Bob's going to add this to his DJ playlist. Bingo Bob on a Saturday night. On the wheels of steel. In 1993. Whoa. Come on now. Come on now. You can talk it up if you know how to hit the post here I have no idea where that post is going to be
Starting point is 01:33:52 Is this Candy Girl? It sounds like Candy Girl by New Edition Right? Doesn't it? Big time There it is. Same song. So what is this? Like a dance remix? What are we listening to here?
Starting point is 01:34:11 So they did this remix. There was a European DJ named Ben Liebrand. He did this mix in 1988. And there was a label in the US that re-released it in 1993. And it went back onto the billboard charts again in 93 and it got up to like it got pretty high on the charts um but collectively between the chart action of the song originally in 76 and the chart action in 93 at that time it was the longest
Starting point is 01:34:39 running chart charted song on billboard wow Wow. Which is crazy. Like on the singles chart. Yeah, it beat like White Christmas and whatever had the record at that point. This song took it over, which is crazy. Between those two. But this version to me is hilarious. Like when I played it earlier,
Starting point is 01:34:57 I thought, oh my God, I vaguely remember this on the radio because of course the original is so old, but once you get into the 90s, that beat, it's like Bobby Brown or it's like Tone Loke or something, right? It's got that really hippity hop.
Starting point is 01:35:09 It's got that Belvedere DeVoe thing. Yes, totally. New Jack Swing. Totally. Yeah, exactly. All right. Amazing. So it's basically the same song with just a new beat.
Starting point is 01:35:20 So here's a confession. I'm open book here, but I used to, as a kid, I'd get my Frankie Valli mixed up with my Frankie Avalon because Avalon was the surfer guy. I saw a movie as a young man. Maybe someone here has the same experience. I saw Back to the Beach.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Oh, yeah, right. Annette Funicello. Rest in peace, Annette Funicello. Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon. Frankie Avalon. Frankie Avalon. Right. And they're back to the beach and you got like Pee Wee Herman's in this. Pee Wee Herman. That's
Starting point is 01:35:54 right. Pee Wee had a song in that I think. Yeah. I think it was just like a tequila remix or something. All you ever do is tequila or whatever. But then there was also like the Skipper and Gilligan were in this thing. Oh my God, that's right. And I want to say Beaver, Wally
Starting point is 01:36:09 and June Cleaver are in this thing. Oh my God, that's right. I don't know. I'm trying to think now. Was this like on the movie network or something? Like First Choice Super Channel back in the 80s? Can I tell you something? When I saw this movie, and I think I saw it in theaters. Yeah, it was in theaters for sure.
Starting point is 01:36:24 I left the theater and thought to myself saw it in theaters. I left the theater and thought to myself, that's the greatest movie I've ever seen. It's about the son of Annette Funicello and Frank Avalon who's like this modern, I don't know, 1990 guy, teenager, leather guy, whose parents are stuck
Starting point is 01:36:39 in the beach era, beach blanket bingo. It's actually high concept and they're throwing this last bash on the beach and it's actually kind of high concept and they're throwing this last bash on the beach and it's just ridiculous and i'm i haven't watched it in many decades but i'm now gonna make a point i'm gonna seek it out and watch me too and you know who's in it actually because my youngest has discovered and i never watched this because i felt too old for it i didn't watch it but full house is on netflix and my six-year-old has discovered full house and she watches a lot of full house and i see it oh there's the beach boys or whatever so laurie
Starting point is 01:37:14 lachlan who i believe went to jail for bribing universities and becky becky she's in this back to the beach like before full house so she's isn't she also in summer school isn't that isn't that the one from Melrose Place isn't that the blonde you're right yes sorry sorry I'm yes you are right who's also a sweetheart but okay
Starting point is 01:37:36 they're both lovely ladies you know what Becky was in a movie called Rad it was about a BMX movie oh I just love the word Rad it was called Rad and it was about BMXers and it was about a bmx movie oh i i just love the word yeah it was called rad and it was about bmxers and it was around the same time oh so thank you mark wiseblood has shown up in the live chat now i know it's really toast is really happening okay i was worried he'd boycott because it's coy and vance but he's here there was another four seasons revival this year
Starting point is 01:38:00 he says uh begging by maniskin that's the italian group right yeah yeah uh he says it came out in late 2021 wow so look at this all coming foot by way uh mark wiseblood if you're listening i will see you next week buddy we missed our monthly and uh i'm going through withdrawals so bring the heat next week and everybody we all going to maybe do a live viewing together of Back to the Beach and see if it's as good as I remember. That's the thing, for sure. Peewee's in this thing! Yeah! Like the Skipper and Gilligan
Starting point is 01:38:33 are hitting each other with their hats or whatever. It's amazing. Gilligan little buddy? Yeah. He's there. Okay. I've got to collect myself. I'm very excited. Thank you, Rob Pruess. That concludes your jams. You did a great job. I'm going to let...
Starting point is 01:38:48 There's only a few beats left in this, and I'm going to roll right into... How long is this version? Oh, it's forever. But here, we're going to roll right into... It's the Z103.5. That's right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:39:03 We'll change it up here. A little different. If we make it through December Oh, yeah. Woo! Yee-haw! Everything's gonna be all right, I know. Love it.
Starting point is 01:39:21 It's the coldest time of winter And I shiver when I see the falling snow If we make it through December Got plans to be in a warmer town come summertime Maybe even California If we make it through December we'll be fine Got laid off down at the factory Of course you did. Of course you did. That's why you got to get a university education, right Bob?
Starting point is 01:40:02 That's right. Not in 1973 and you were Merle Haggard. You didn't have to. Tell me why you chose this jam and remind us exactly what we're listening to. Merle Haggard has been recently covered by Phoebe Bridgers. Yeah. Yeah, Phoebe Bridgers just did it. Holly Cole did it in the early 2000s. Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:22 If we make it through December. Amazing. For me, you know, we always talk. It's interesting. You know, you talk about your specials with the radio stations. So my grandparents on my mom's side, my nan and my pa, they always had music on all the time. And it was CFGM 1320 or the country station here in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:40:44 And it was 1431st, then 1320, and the country station here in toronto and it was uh 1431st then 1320 and it moved around but it was the country station um so i have real uh i have a real affinity to classic country music and uh merle haggard um you know obviously johnny cash and stuff but um merle haggard boxcar willie and uh tom t hall and all this. These are Farron Young. These are guys... Oh, Farron Young is amazing. Isn't he, though? He really is. Yes. And completely
Starting point is 01:41:13 doesn't get the respect. Just not very well known. So these are the stuff that I listen to. My grandparents would always order those quality record K-Tel compilations of different country stuff. My grandparents would always order those quality record K tell, uh, compilations of different country stuff. And so they always, if the radio wasn't on a record was on and it could have,
Starting point is 01:41:31 it was often Merle Haggard. It was, um, you know, into the eighties. They like guys in the eighties too. Like they would like, uh,
Starting point is 01:41:37 you know, they liked a Randy Travis and a Ricky Skaggs and whatnot. But, uh, that's one of the good things about grandparents is that you, if you're around them and they're, and they are music music lovers you get to hear what they grew up listening to and loving and it if it gets into you right and it becomes a part of you as well because i love this story 100 so you know like i um i mean i was around music my whole life nobody played music
Starting point is 01:41:58 in my house my mom loved country my mom loved my mom actually loved really kind of punky cool stuff too i still have all her old 45s. She had Rough Trade and all these different things. My dad loved pop music. My dad was a pop guy. Again, he was the guy who DJ'd for Disc Jockey's Unlimited. Do we have a country station now in Toronto? We do not have a country station in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:42:18 We have KX96 out of Oshawa would be the closest you can get, or 94.7 out of Hamilton, which are both owned by Durham Radio. Can I pull any of those in right now? You might get 94.7 out here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Chat amongst yourself about this country memories here. Say 94.7? Yeah, 94.7. I mentioned I'm going to rip these cassettes to MP3, right? So I've got my cassette player hooked up here. So he's using a Sony circa 1999 mini shelf system here.
Starting point is 01:42:51 I love those little systems. He's trying to dial in a country station. But yeah, you know, Rob, you're from Hamilton originally, right? So like, I mean, Burlington. 94.1? What is it? 94.7. I think. I don't know. I'm just going to see what's at 94 at 94 so what was the country station in hamilton there was one um
Starting point is 01:43:10 oh there was a country um but they would sometimes if they didn't like what was going on they would uh yeah i can't remember what the number was yeah okay hold on here that's not it's true you know what you could just stream it eh you know you know what you could just stream it a you know you know that I have this radio player Canada or something no interest in streaming it this is a says the podcaster yeah maybe I could snatched roasted baked 95.1 what do you
Starting point is 01:43:43 just not even a radio station it's not even a radio station. It's never been a radio station in our lives. It's not going back, so it's like... You mean to tell me your 30-year-old player is not working properly? Sorry to hear. That's not country music, Bob. That's 94.1.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Okay. This experiment has failed, but in real time, I could bring in some radio. I thought it might be fun, but it real time, I could bring in some radio. I thought it might be fun, but it did not work out. Anyway, CFGM was the big country station in Toronto, and they would play classic country all the time. And, you know, like I said, I have a soft spot in my heart for classic country. Not the biggest fan of, you know, new country, bro country that's out there.
Starting point is 01:44:23 I mean, there's some good pop tunes out there, actually. Nelly did a really good song with Tim McGraw, if you want to talk good, fun pop music. But yeah, so when we started talking about December Jams, I was like, well, this is actually, it's on Merle Haggard's Christmas album, but I don't- That's amazing. But it's not a Christmas song, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It is a December song. It's a December song, and it's appropriate for today. You did a great job, and I love the memories of your grandparents and everything. And I told you I was growing up all I heard was that fucking Kenny Rogers greatest hits and now it's like I have the softest spot
Starting point is 01:44:54 in my heart for that any song on that Kenny Rogers. Yeah Lady for sure. Okay. My last December jam. Are you two folks ready for this one? I didn't want to Hanson this so let's kick it! Let's do it. Kick it. December When there's reason to believe Maybe this year Will be better than
Starting point is 01:45:28 The last I can't remember The last thing That you said As you were leaving All days go by So fast But it's one more day up in the canyon
Starting point is 01:45:48 And it's one more night in Hollywood If you think that I could be forgiven I wish you would. Na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the December Jam.
Starting point is 01:46:20 This is a long December by Counting Crows. Yeah. By the way, on the live chat, VP of Sales says, Cham 820 in Hamilton, West Country. Thank you. Aha, Cham. That's right, C-H-A-M. Which is funny 820 for a while, and Humble and Fred wanted to run it or something.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Well, they had a morning show there until they were told to get off that station. Okay. And now we're a podcast like we should be. Okay. And now we're a podcast like we should be. Okay. So, this was ineligible. It's kind of fun
Starting point is 01:46:50 when you look at Billboard Hot 100 facts and you learn, okay, there was a rule for a long time that if you didn't release your song as a physical single,
Starting point is 01:46:58 you were not eligible to chart on the Billboard Hot 100. Along December, it never came out as a physical single, therefore was ineligible to chart on the Billboard Hot 100. Billboard's useless.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Billboard's useless. Well, now it's really useless with the streaming. Well, yeah, exactly. They did not change the times, as it were. Who here can tell me what actress appeared in the video for A Long December? Courtney Cox, wasn't it? No. He was screwing her.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Oh, Bobby, watch your language. No, I cannot tell you the actress, but I can tell you do your thing and then I have a thought. Well, you're correct. And he was screwing her. I'm sure they were also friends. I don't know the personal details,
Starting point is 01:47:48 but she appeared in the video for A Long December, Courtney Cox. Ironically, dancing like she did in Dancing in the Dark video. No, I'm kidding. Courtney Cox was in it. There you go. Two videos for her. I'll bring it down for a moment to say that, can you name another video that featured Courtney Cox?
Starting point is 01:48:13 Oh, Jesus. Oh, my God, no. It is Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen. Okay, so I know I went quickly off of Counting Crows, and that's a pretty good jam in long December. I think it might be my favorite Counting Crows song, to be honest, but I'm not a huge Counting Crows guy. But, Rob Pruce, what do you think of the Counting Crows, and that's a pretty good jam in long December. I think it might be my favorite Counting Crows song, to be honest, but I'm not a huge Counting Crows guy.
Starting point is 01:48:29 But Rob Pruce, what do you think of the Counting Crows? Nothing at all. First thing I always think of is this dude, singer with his dreadlocks. Yeah, that didn't age well. Adam Duritz, yeah. Actually, my ex-sister-in-law had a photograph that was used on the cover of one of their albums, and I just flashed it into my head, and I don't remember which album it is, but I think that it was like a front or back cover of one of their albums in the late nineties.
Starting point is 01:48:54 So that's all I think of with them. Yeah. I always think of that terrible, I mean, in my opinion, cause you can't, you know, subjective art and all that stuff. But, uh, the cover of, uh of the Joni Mitchell song, right? Oh, Big Yellow Taxi with Vanessa. Oh, yes. Whatever her name is who did A Thousand Miles.
Starting point is 01:49:12 She's also on it. Vanessa Carlton is also a voice on that. Vanessa Carlton's on that too. I always, when it came out, I was thinking. Kansas CanCon. Does it? Okay. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:19 It's CanCon. See, Bob's an expert on what's CanCon. We've done episodes about it. I kicked out a jam of songs. You didn't know we're CanCon. Yeah, yeah. That's on what's CanCon. We've done episodes about it. I kicked out a jam of songs you didn't know were CanCon. So I always hated that cover. It's almost as bad as when Madonna covered American Pie, which I thought was a terrible cover
Starting point is 01:49:32 as well, but we should do worse covers or whatever. Okay, I digress. Bruce Springsteen, and I've dropped this fact on Pandemic Fridays many times, but you guys are not from there. This is for you. He's never hit number one as a singer.
Starting point is 01:49:47 In the history of the Billboard Hot 100, there's no Bruce Springsteen song songs where he gets number one. He did write a song that went to number one. Does anyone have a guess as to what that song was? Pink Cadillac. That's a good guess. Or Blinded by the Light.
Starting point is 01:50:03 That's it. By Manfred Mann. Blinded by the Light. That's it. By Manfred Mann. Blinded by the Light is the Bruce Springsteen penned song that went to number one. But this is the actual... This song we're listening to right now is the highest ranking Bruce Springsteen song on the Billboard Hot 100. Wow.
Starting point is 01:50:19 It went to number two. What kept it out? That's a great... Bob, you might just get the Cam Gordon spot permanently because that's how great you're doing. So I thought it would be fun if I kicked out a couple of the songs because two songs kept Dancing in the Dark out of number one. This is the biggest selling single of Bruce Springsteen's career. So I'm going to kick out this first song because the gentleman behind this song worked with Rob Pruce. And I'm going to kick out this first song because the gentleman behind this song
Starting point is 01:50:46 worked with Rob Pruce, and I'm hoping Rob could tell us a little more detail about this legend. But here's a jam that kept Dancing in the Dark out of the number one spot. I knew that's what it was going to be. Ha ha ha. I'll be dropping this one at the El Macombo.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I'll bet you will. Number one jam. You've got your father's time But I'm dancing on the valentine I tell you somebody's fooling around With my chances on the danger line I'll cross that bridge when I find it Another day to make my stand
Starting point is 01:51:56 Oh, oh High time is no time for deciding If I should find a helping hand Oh, oh Why don't you use it? Try not to bruise it. Buy time, don't lose it. Why, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What, what?
Starting point is 01:52:24 What, what? What, what? What, what? What, what? It's coming, it's coming everybody You're really Nothing to say But it works Here it comes Oh my god Hold on Here comes Niall
Starting point is 01:52:53 Oh my god Wait here it comes Not the radio edit Oh not yet Here comes Niall. It's not the radio at it. Hold on. Here it comes.
Starting point is 01:53:10 It's worth the wait. Here it comes. And then I got questions. Okay, this is Niall. Here it comes. Yeah, that's Niall. Okay. I know Rob knows where I'm going with this,
Starting point is 01:53:27 but of course, if you got Seven and the Ragged Tiger as I did, the version is boring compared to the one you heard on 680 CFTR. Okay? Oh, yeah. I wanted the version from 680 CFTR. This, of course, is a remix by Niles Rodgers. Rodgers with an S, right?
Starting point is 01:53:43 Niles Rodgers. One Nile and multiple Rodgers. Niles Rodgers. One Nile and multiple Rodgers. Nile Rodgers. I got to get that right. Okay. Rob, have you ever worked with Nile Rodgers? A couple of times, yeah. Tell me about your experience working with Nile Rodgers. You took this song, which was great on Seven and the Ragged Tiger,
Starting point is 01:54:02 and made it next level number one smash totally and he was experimenting like this song was a real experiment for him in terms of using a lot of modern technology at the time with sampling devices and and like like modules that would like like repeat things and like do all you know playback stuff and i think nile was so good with using the technology of the time this song was him sort of experimenting with some sampling stuff with with with the voices and the instruments and layering different elements so he took the original duran duran track and he basically stripped it down and then built it back up but like it's just to me it's one of the oh yeah coolest things he ever did
Starting point is 01:54:41 for sure and he stuck his voice in there too. I was hoping you were going to play that version that's now going, somebody's fooling around. That's him. He's fucking around. Yeah, it's tough. You know, there's so many versions out there. When I grabbed one, I thought I was getting, actually I thought I was getting the radio remix that Niall Rogers did.
Starting point is 01:55:00 This is the extended remix. It's like when I grab Nova Heart, I always grab that 12 minute version or whatever the hell This is the extended remix. It's like when I grab Nova Heart, I always grab that like 12-minute version or whatever the hell it is. 12-inch, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The long 12-inch. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:11 So, Nile Rodgers. Oh, yeah. So, I'm just watching my file. It's like it's going again. Yeah. We did the same thing when we worked with him. We did the song Tell No Lies and did like a long
Starting point is 01:55:26 extended version I love Tell No Lies it was similar it was similar in a way that we sort of took the bare bones of the song and just mixed it up and edited it
Starting point is 01:55:33 and cut it and moved it all around like that so we love Nile Rodgers I love that you worked with Nile Rodgers and Bob and I we're going to break dance
Starting point is 01:55:43 to this song later pop and lock. Get out the cardboard. Put down the cardboard. Okay. I had a routine to this jam. Okay. But this is not the only song that blocked Bruce from the number one spot in the Billboard Hot 100.
Starting point is 01:55:56 So one more jam. Oh, wow. Wow. Look at these juggernauts keeping Bruce out of the number one spot. Wow. Wow. This is my favorite Prince song, by the way. Fun fact.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Interesting. Thank you. The heat between me and you I just need you standing Alone in a world that's so cold Maybe I'm just too demanding Maybe I'm just like my father Too bold, maybe I'm just like my mother She's never satisfied Why do we scream at each other? This is what it sounds like When the doves cry
Starting point is 01:57:32 Okay, shout out to Millhouse Van Houten. This is When Doves Cry by Prince and the Revolution. To either of you, and if anything you want to say about the mighty prince, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, and this fantastic jam that blocked Bruce from the number one spot? Summer of 84? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:54 Yes, because it's 84, 85. I get those. Yeah. Oh, this is definitely summer. This is, again, one of those songs. When does Born in the USA come out? 84, 85. Yeah. You're too young. You does Born in the USA come out? 84, 85. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:06 You're too young. You're too young. Can you imagine? I will not imagine. I know because my dad was DJing at the time and listening to the radio. Like, pop music in 84? Ridiculous. Hall & Oates, Tina Turner, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kiss, Prince.
Starting point is 01:58:23 It's just ridiculous how it was a golden era for pop music. It was just amazing. I wanted to ask... Sorry, go ahead. This is one of those songs, like in my memory of the summer, spring of 84, was lying outside in the backyard of my parents. I was trying to get a tan because we were like, you know, in the spoons era, probably making videos
Starting point is 01:58:43 or getting ready to go back on the road or whatever. And listening probably to TKkoc and they said this is this is the new single from prince and hearing when doves cry for the first time lying outside in the backyard wow and like just freaking out like what the hell is going on there's no bass guitar on this song and and to be in that moment at that time hearing it for the first time like that's i mean i'm sure you guys had that same feeling with a song where you know where you were the first time you heard a song because it stops you in your tracks and it happens to all of us at different times but it's the same feeling because we know what that feels like well being in the spoons doesn't that just entail you lying in the backyard in burlington trying to
Starting point is 01:59:23 get your hair to grow yeah or trying to like get the dot get the highlights to like sink in I think I would have been great I can do that
Starting point is 01:59:32 now that I've lost the pigmentation it would be ridiculous but back when I was younger and I had pigmentation I had very thick hair that would kind of go up and I would
Starting point is 01:59:40 be right in I know you did I know you did I've seen you on Toronto Rocks GD Roberts oh yeah listen the stories that Rob John Major man fit right in. I know you did. I know you did. I've seen you on Toronto Rocks. JD Roberts? Oh, yeah. Listen, the story is that John Major, man. John Major.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. That's right. Lost that man too young. Bob, any Prince thoughts before we say farewell? You know what? What can you say about Prince that hasn't already been said? He's ridiculous. His entire catalog is insane. I did want to say something about Duran Duran, going back to Duran Duran quickly.
Starting point is 02:00:09 I think people forget, I mean, at least Navari, how massive Duran Duran was. They were the Beatles of the 80s. They were the biggest band, and this is not my theory. I didn't come up with this. They were the biggest band in the world until Live Aid, and they booted A View to a Kill, and U2 had opened the day, and U2 killed that stage that day. biggest band in the world until Live Aid. And they booted a view to a kill. And U2 had opened the day. And U2 killed that stage that day.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And Duran Duran was horrible that day. If you go back and watch it. I mean, they didn't have a good day. Let's put it that way. And U2 killed it. Again, this isn't necessarily my theory. I've heard it a few different times. But that was the pass off of the torch from Duran Duran to U2 as the biggest band in the world.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Unless we forget there was the Troubles in the band, right? Because then you had Arcadia and the Power Station. That's like four or five years later. Well, Arcadia would have been like 88 maybe. When's Wild Boys? Can you help me out?
Starting point is 02:01:02 Wild Boys was like 85, 86. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. And Arcadia was around the same time. I think that Arcadia happened at the same time as Power Station. Remember, Bob, I'm older than you. I remember this. You got a year on me.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I'm older than you. I remember it even better. Rob Pruce remembers everything. Gentlemen, okay, we cannot and we will not strive to replace. I need to be clear about this. Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. No. I didn't tell them, guys, you're out.
Starting point is 02:01:32 I'm replacing you with the great Bob Ouellette and the great Rob Bruce. No. They made a decision to pause for a little bit. I've decided to keep it going in the interim. They're welcome back the minute they're welcome back. Maybe I'll have to do one kind of a crossover episode when we pass the baton. Have you ever had four people?
Starting point is 02:01:48 I would have to do it to pass it back. But I will say, so Stu Stone, we love you, man. Bandits available now on Hollywood Suites. Have you seen it yet, Rob? Not yet. I'm looking for it. I'm trying to find a way to find it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Okay, now I'm going to embarrass Mr. Bob with it. Bob, have you seen Bandits yet? I've seen the trailer several times. Okay, you've got homework. You've got homework, okay? It stars the great Jane Arden. I know, I know. Okay, so we're all going to watch Bandits numerous times.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Write David Kynes and tell him how much you loved it. Cam Gordon, we love you. Can't wait to get you back on toes. But I want to say sincerely, I couldn't have found two better coys and dances than Rob Pruce. What a wonderful FOTM. Thank you, Rob. Thank you. to say sincerely i couldn't have found like two better coys and dances than rob pruse what a wonderful fotm thank you rob thank you thank you for asking it's an honor to even be considered as a pleasure to kind of meet you rob even though we don't really see you too you know what don't
Starting point is 02:02:36 leave the zoom because i'll do the music and we'll finish up and then i want to change the camera so you can see bob willettette. Cool. Alright. Nice. Bob Ouellette, though, what a pleasure it is to have you back on the program. You're a good FOTM yourself, buddy. Thanks, man. And you are getting a lasagna. Oh, you know what? I got so excited by all these jams. I didn't do
Starting point is 02:03:00 some of my homework, so I'll do it very quickly. Very quickly. Yes, we are open. Go to Yes, We Are Open podcast and subscribe. That's the great FOTM. do some of my homework so I'll do it very quickly very quickly yes we are open go to yes we are open podcast and subscribe that's the great FOTM Al Grego hosting a Moneris podcast he's been traveling the country interviewing small businesses and what they've learned and it's really
Starting point is 02:03:16 insightful human interest stuff it's very well produced good job Al everybody listen to yes we are open the advantaged investor from Raymond James Canada that's hosted by Chris Cooksey. Make sure you subscribe and listen to that. I already shouted out Ridley Funeral Home, but I am recording
Starting point is 02:03:32 tomorrow. We're going to kick out Brad Jones' three favorite Christmas songs of all time and talk about it. That'll be the next episode of Life's Undertaking. And last but not least, we have a keyboardist on this Zoom, but of course,
Starting point is 02:03:46 the drummer for The Watchmen is Sammy Cohn. And if you have any questions whatsoever about real estate, you need to, yeah, the award-winning Yes, We Are Open podcast. My mistake, everybody.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Thank you, YYZ, for correcting me. But right, Sammy Cohn. You have a question about drumming or real estate. He's Sammy.Cohn, K-O-H-N at properlyhomes.ca. Any last words, Rob,
Starting point is 02:04:12 before I say goodbye to the FOTM? I wish you all the best for the end of the year and I look forward to more of our get-togethers in 2023 and Bob, you as well. Yeah, yeah, for sure. We're going to get you in the basement for sure. Yeah. Can we afford that flight? I don don't know is that in the budget here
Starting point is 02:04:27 where are you in Brooklyn or Manhattan where are you I'm in Queens actually nice very cool but I'll be in Toronto lots next year I've got some shows coming up in the new year and so I'll be up I'll get you back here yep and that here's Stu Stone
Starting point is 02:04:44 in my mind and that brings us to the end of our 1173rd show you can follow me on Twitter I'm at Toronto Mike Bob is at Bob Willett Rob remind me again there's X's in there what is your handle on Twitter
Starting point is 02:05:00 Rob Pruse R-O-B-P-R-E-U-S-S X there's an X at the end that's what I always forget your handle on Twitter? Rob Pruse, R-O-B-P-R-E-U-S-S X. X, there's an X at the end. That's what I always forget. At Twitter, yeah. Our friends at
Starting point is 02:05:09 Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. I have a lasagna for Bob. Sticker U is at Sticker U. Moneris is at Moneris.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Raymond James Canada are at Raymond James CDN. Recycled by Electronics are at E-P-R-A underscore Canada. Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH. Canna Cabana
Starting point is 02:05:28 are at Canna Cabana underscore. And Sammy Cone Real Estate is at Sammy Cone. See you all Thursday for Christmas Crackers Volume 5 with FOTM Hall of Famer. You're going to love it, Rob.
Starting point is 02:05:46 Ed Conroy, a.k.a. Retro Ontario. Yes! ¶¶ ¶¶ Rosie and Gray Yeah the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms me today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away
Starting point is 02:06:34 Cause everything is Rosie and Gray Well I've kissed you in France And I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true
Starting point is 02:07:04 Because everything is coming up rosy and green. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms us today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine. And it won't go away. Because everything is rosy now. Everything is rosy, yeah. ¶¶ Music Music Music Music

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