Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - TOAST 17: Toronto Mike'd #1270

Episode Date: June 10, 2023

In this 17th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out three songs they love that share the identical title. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, the Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Moment Lab, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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and now I realize I didn't play the special Peter Gross opening, but that's okay, is Rob Pruce and Bob Ouellette. Rhymes with Gillette. Welcome back, Rob and Bob. Nice to see you. Thanks for having us. You also didn't play the, what's the band called?

Toast. Toast. Street band. Street band. Is that a street band? Yeah, with Paul Young as the lead singer. Paul Young is the lead singer. Absolutely.

When Ivor Hamilton was here a couple of weeks ago, he name-dropped Toast as one of the special CFNY things. And I told him, I use that as the theme song to Toast every single month. Speaking of which, lost the catch up on, but where were you last month?

This is now June. We haven't recorded in two months. We did not record in May. What the fuck happened? Bob, that's for you. Was it me? Yeah, it was me. I was ready and willing and able

But you weren't going to be here And he won't let me do Zoom Because I live on the other side of the city And it would have been so weird to do an episode with two Zoomers I didn't want to do that I put my foot down I don't even remember what it was You went to Japan or something

My wife went to Japan My wife was in Japan for a couple weeks On work for the Art Gallery of Ontario. So I was solo parenting and running the great radio empire that Chorus has in Kingston, Ontario

from the Danforth. So you couldn't get here. And then I think we had a day. We did. And then my brother's wife's father died. That's right. And I went to a visitation that night. And then my brother's wife's father died. That's right. You canceled a couple, yeah. That's right. Yes. And I went to a visitation that night.

Yes. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Yeah. Yeah. It was not meant to be. But here we are now. We couldn't get this together until now.

Yeah. It's been so long since we recorded. I do want to touch on a couple of big events that happened. And you're going to be like, Mike, that happened

a hundred years ago. And I'm like, no, this all happened since you guys were here. Oh, yeah. Oh. If you could read my mind, love, what a tale my thoughts could tell.

Oh, that's nice. Just like an old-time movie About a ghost from a wishing well In a castle dark Or a fortress strong With chains upon my feet You know that ghost is me And I will never be set free

as long as I'm a ghost that you can't see. We lost Gordon Lightfoot since we last recorded Toast. Yes. Tell everybody, Rob, what you just showed Bob and I. Well, I was at 401 Richmond today

at Myseum and exploring the galleries there and there's some beautiful gift shops with really cool tchotchkes, like Toronto stuff, subways and Toronto buildings. And I bought this Massey Hall postcard. It's like a greeting card, blank card. But the theme is Canadian Heroes by Wendy Tancar. So it's got Massey Hall with a little Gordon Lightfoot sign, like Gordon was going to play there.

Very nice. I'm going to hold up to the camera that everybody can see. We're going to get back to Myseum because I want to ask you about that. Oh, yeah. Bob, any Gordon Lakefoot in the home when you were growing up? Not a ton, to be completely honest. I don't want you to lie to me.

All right. I can do that all day. No, I do remember when he was inducted into the Canadian Radio Music Hall of Fame. It was at a Canadian Music Week at the Fairmont, at the Royal York. And I got to see him play in the ballroom. And it takes a lot to shut

radio people up. But him and a guitar in the ballroom? Everybody shut up. Amazing. I think he did this. I think he did three songs. And I just felt so privileged to be there in that room. In a room of maybe 300 people, 400 people, to he did three songs. And I just felt so privileged to be there in that room, in a room of maybe 300 people,

400 people, to see him do that. I felt very fortunate. I mean, he's a Canadian icon. I feel like when I was first, when I was nine years old and playing in bands and stuff, and Sundown was on the radio, and I was obsessed. And then when Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald came out, and it was one of the

songs when I was starting to buy sheet music to learn pop songs and I remember going to Oakville to this music store and getting Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald and it's you know

basically one verse 20 times whatever but it was so satisfying to sit at the piano and look at that music and play that and yeah

I've just always loved them okay we're gonna toast the legacy the legend the memory of Gordon Lake so everybody's got a Great Lakes beer. Pop it.

Should we do it all together? Yeah. Okay. Hold on. I've got to get ready here. Okay. Three, two, one. Cheers.

This is for Gord. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers, Gord. One of the many great Canadian Gords. Yeah. So, Bob, you're not drinking beer from Great Lakes. You're drinking a vodka soda.

I've been drinking all day because I've been at CMW. I want to ask about that too. I might be a little bloated for beer. I went with the vodka soda with citrus. I'm not a vodka guy, but I do like a nice soda drink. I'm a gin soda usually, but this is quite nice.

The citrus isn't fake tasting, which is nice. Because often citrus can taste fake. It's very nice. Thank you, GLB. Thank you, Great Lakes. You've got the lager going, Rob Pruce. I actually have the Sunnyside IPA. But there's someone else I want to speak about before we get into this.

And I'm going to talk about Canadian Music Week. And I'm going to talk about Myseum. And then you guys cheated on me. I want to talk about that. We have to introduce the topic. We have to kick out some jams. Oh yeah. Out of the ruins Out from the wreckage Can't make the same mistake this time

to stay this time We are the children The last generation We are the ones that are left behind Here it comes Wow We don't need another hero We don't need to know the way home All we want is life beyond the thunderdome Okay, not a Canadian legend, but a legend in her own right.

Yep. Tina Turner left us. What the fuck, Tina? You're supposed to live forever. What's going on here? She's another person that just feels like she's going to live forever.

Like when you lose like a musical icon who has been around like our whole lifetimes, you don't know a world without them in it, right? So here's my question for Rob who has a couple of years

on Bob and I. Like what was your entry like into Tina Turner's music like what is the song that brought you in well I mean really the 80s songs like like private dancer like uh you know what's love got to do with it was like her revival right but I always knew who she was because I think when I was a little kid she was on the radio but I didn't specifically think about her like in any way I I think I probably just knew did you have an I can Tina reference no I mean I I knew of did you have an Icantina reference

not really I mean I knew of that sound in the world of like probably hearing them on the radio but what about like Let's Stay Together

or any of the stuff they were playing on CFY in the early 80s like pre-Private Dancer Rob Proust did you have any exposure to that if I did

I probably ignored it because I was more tuned into whatever they were playing that had to do with synthesizers and the new wave so if they I mean I'm sure it was in there and I probably ignored it because I was more tuned into whatever they were playing that had to do with synthesizers and the new wave. So if they, I mean, I'm sure it was in there and I probably would have appreciated it. But really, once she came back with the private dancer stuff was like explosive.

Maybe the greatest comeback in rock and roll history. Wouldn't you agree, Mr. Willett from CMA? CMW? CMW. I don't get invited to those things. You know, it's interesting. A CMA? CMW? CMW. Whatever. I don't get invited to those things. So I don't know. You know, it's interesting. A couple months ago, I missed it.

But I got sent like a PR thing to talk to Holly Knight. Oh, wow. Yeah. Songwriter. Yes. And she wrote the best. Yeah. That's right.

And then I heard her on Sirius. And I was like, oh, my God. I can't believe I missed that. I missed that email. And I missed the opportunity because she has a book and Holly Knight wrote the best. For Bonnie Tyler. But Tina ended up doing it.

Oh yeah, of course. She also wrote Love is a Battlefield, Ragdoll, Obsession, Better Be Good to Me, the Tina Turner song. Holly Knight's got an amazing story, but it was interesting hearing her take on the song

and everything with Tina Turner. So yes, a legend. What was interesting today her take on the song and everything with Tina Turner. So, yes, a legend. What was interesting today, you were talking about being at Canadian Music Week. One of the people who were honored is FOTM Wayne Webster, who was the original, like originally started Q107 in the music library when it launched in 75 or 77, actually. 77 when it launched. 77 actually 77 when it launched uh but he he was at and he mentioned he was at chum fm when they went from being playing judas priest to eventually playing tina turner and um and the the way that they went from that aor the album rock the album rocks thing into that and i think of when i hear that tina turner and i think about private dancer i I think about being 10 years old in 86 in my dad's car and hearing the pop music of that day

was just so good. You had Tina Turner and Bruce Springsteen and John Mellencamp and Hall & Oates and Cyndi Lauper and Michael Jackson and Madonna and the Spoons, yes, and the Spoons. Lionel Richie. Let's keep going. Yeah, all of that.

And what's really cool, like when she passed away and there were friends on Facebook like posting memories of seeing her before the comeback happened and she did like a week at the Royal Connaught Hotel

at the Royal York Hotel where they used to do live music. Really? Connaughts and Hamilton. The Royal York. I was going to say, what are we talking about? Yeah.

But it was her with like an orchestra. Right. And it was like one of those show band kind of gigs, right? Where she'd do like Proud Mary and all that. Yes, exactly. And so she did a week in Toronto,

and it was like a couple of years before the revival. Wow. Okay, so we lost a couple of big musicians. And I'm going to introduce the topic now, and then I'm going to ask you about some things, including you cheating on me. But the topic. Okay, so the topic is, is quite simply three songs we love and the rule

has to be that the three songs that we love have to have identical titles so we're all clear on this rule right there's no confusion here okay so we'll be kicking out these jams and you'll notice all three of my songs have the same title all three of rob's songs have the same title and guess what all three of bob's songs have the same title. And guess what? All three of Bob's songs have the same title. I got to shout out VP of Sales because he's actually watching live

on live.torontomike.com from the right field bullpen at the Dome. Wow. The Dome is open too. So live from Sky Dome. Yeah. So we just passed it.

Right. And he's just said, here's a photo I'm looking at now on live.torontomike.com. Oh, yeah. Nice. It's pretty good.

And Cambrio says, VPs live in large. So hello to everybody onronomike.com. A photo. It's pretty good. And Cambrio says, VPs live in large. So hello to everybody on the live stream. Yes. Let's start with you, Rob. Yes.

And then we'll talk to Bob and then we'll find out what you guys did together this past month instead of coming over here for Toronto Mike. So Rob, good to see you in the studio.

Yeah. This is, how many times have you made it to the studio for toasties? Is this like four? Oh, for toast. For toast, three?

Three, I think, yeah. Okay, that's awesome. So you're here. And I was here one other time in September last year. Yeah, which was fantastic. Best fucking day of my life. Okay, so tell me about this myseum. And before you tell me about the myseum,

I will tell you in the listenership. Monday, myseum is closed, but not for me, because I'm Toronto Mike. It's amazing. I'm going to be live at myseum with FOTM Hall of Famer Ed Conroy, better known as Retro Ontario, and FOTM PJ Fresh Phil. Amazing. Oh.

We're live at Myseum Monday, so check that out. But tell me about your visit to Myseum. Well, since I knew we were going to be meeting up here, and I had heard about the Myseum, the exhibit, which I have the postcard for. Where is it? Mr. Dress up to Degrassi. Oh, wow.

42 years. I might enjoy this. You've not been there yet? No. You need to give yourself time before you start recording. And you got it. I mean, it's unbelievable.

Can I steal stuff? Because they're not open to the public. Nope. But so it basically goes from the history of children's television. Is Casey there, Finnegan? I swear to god they are

they're really well made reproductions and you can hold them in your hand I held Finnegan in my hand

reproductions yeah not interested I want the real Casey and Finnegan they don't know where they are you can ask Ed

all about it but the real the guys from today's special are there Muffy and Sam Sam the watchman

there's little recreations of the polka dot door and friendly friendly giant's castle. This is like Gen X Torontonians wedges. Is there anything with Uncle Bobby? Not really. I don't know what Ed's doing there.

That's his wheelhouse. But it's beautiful. So, I mean, the whole place, I'd never been to 401 Richmond before, but it's all these different art galleries that all exist throughout this building. And it's fantastic. And there's some great gift shops in the basement level. You had to exit through the gift shop.

Exactly. Friendly Giant, Polka Dot Door, Degrassi, Mr. Dress Up, Today's Special. Why not just call it Toronto Mike, The Exhibit? Yeah, no, I loved it. And it's just really, really, really cool. Ed's done an amazing job. I feel like it's the kind of thing that should be a permanent exhibit somewhere.

Like it's only there, I think, until August or something. Yeah, it could be a permanent exhibit in my basement. I know. Children's Television Museum. Canadian Children's Television Museum. Exactly. So anyways, I went there first, planning to come here,

and then it worked out that Bob was downtown. And then you picked up Bob. So Bob, give me the highlights. Like what is, tell us normies, what is CMW and why did I see a photo of you and FOTM Maestro Freshwater? Well, first of all, thank you, Rob, for picking me up. That was amazing. It worked out great. So this year, every year, Canadian Music Week happens with a bunch of shows. You buy a wristband,

you can see a whole bunch of bands, some coming up, some upcoming, some bands that are working. Coming up or upcoming? I need to know the difference. They're both. Last night I went to the Velvet Underground and saw a band called Hotel Mira, who were amazing. So it's a thing that's for the public, but also there is an industry portion of it where there are panels and discussions about the music industry,

the broadcast industry, and now, of course, the podcast industry. But did you get invited? Chorus Entertainment is a sponsor. Okay. Should I be upset I wasn't invited? Nobody gets invited. You're either a sponsor or you could be media. You could apply to be media.

But you just said podcasting. Do you have to be like a radio company doing podcasts? What about independent podcasters? Why isn't Toronto Mike the Canadian Music Week? Because you didn't tell them you wanted to. I want to be invited to be. Well, you know what? You're important, but you're not that important. Well, then I don't want to go.

You should go, though, because you'd love it. There's cool panels and things. You know how to reach me. Rob and Bob. Those guys have to be... Keep going. I'm curious. Half a beer in. Tell me more. I saw a picture of Maura Grierson. Maura Gerson. Gerson is an R in there.

That's right. Yeah, Maura Gerson. So yeah, so basically yesterday, it's all day. You get there first thing and all day is panels. The first panel was on with this company called Futuri,

which basically freaked the hell out of most people in radio because it was all about AI DJs and what that is going to look like and the fact that Rogers is already using AI DJs, essentially AI announcers in three of their sports markets across the country.

They're in Winnipeg, Calgary. What do you think of that personally? Take off your chorus hat for a minute. What are your thoughts on that? I think we can't fight AI. What I just said to Rob and I said to everybody, here's what I say. I say we can't be Metallica with Napster. We have to embrace the technology, and

we have to use it to our advantage. I think there is a lot of opportunity for us to use it. Is it there yet? It's still not there yet. When I hear an AI DJ, Spotify has AI DJ. You can listen to it. It's there. Try it. You'll know it's not real. It's not quite there yet.

In 12 months, it'll probably be there. Let's be honest. It'll probably be there. I think be honest. It'll probably be there. I think we have to use it as a tool to better our industry, and I think we can't be afraid of it. Be not afraid. What, did you go to Catholic school? Yeah. It's all in great.

I go before you always. Right, I've been programmed. Like, you can leave the church, but those things are implanted when you're a kid, and they're there forever. And it's like a really weird cult. Peace be with you. And also with you. Not anymore. It's now with your spirit.

Really? They changed it. It's been a long time for me. I'm stealing John Mulaney's line here, but it's like, because that's what the Catholic Church needed to change. It used to be peace be with you and also with you. Now it's end with your spirit. End with your spirit. Oh my God. I had no idea. So yeah, you know what? CMW is,

it was actually really good. It's the first full one we've had post pandemic. There was a bit of a light version last year. And it's generally a thing that's not just for radio. It's for music. No.

Music industry. Musicians. Musicians who want to get on the radio? Yeah. But artists also want to get on a label. Yep. Like they'll have record producers giving talks.

Chuck D was there. FOTM Chuck D was there. Cool. Did you meet him? No, I didn't want to buy on a label. Yep. Like they'll have, they'll have record producers giving Chuck D was there. FOTM Chuck D was there. Cool. What did you meet him? Uh, no, I didn't want to buy the $67 book. Oh,

you have to buy a book. Well, yeah, I saw him. I gave him a wave. That was about it. Yeah. I saw Jamar.

Speaking of when I, when I interviewed Chuck D, Jamar McNeil was there because he was DJing for Mishimi. Right. FOTM. And so Jamar, yeah, Jamar is,

uh, obviously he's with a Maryland and Marilyn and Jamar in the mornings on Chum. And I've met him a couple different times. I like him. He's a good guy. And I met another guy from iHeartRadio, this Toby guy who's on 35 stations in iHeart in the States.

Yeah. So it's a great. It's a great marketing, or not marketing, I guess marketing as well. It's a networking event. It's a great networking event and a lot of the stuff happens at the you know at the hotel lobby bar but also there were some really good talks with the head of bbc one the uh was there and talked about what what they're doing with bbc one trying to do something that radio can't do here get 15 to 24 year olds to

listen now they have bb. Yeah. They have... Every time I hear the BBC though, I think of Austin Powers. Yeah, BBC One, BBC Two. I think... BBC One is a hardcore CHR top 40 radio station and it is very well listened to. Yeah.

So it was really interesting to hear from that guy. That's really cool. Yeah. So it's, you know what? I always feel very fortunate to get to go do these things because I have to admit sometimes, you know, it's a little, there's a little doom and gloom with my industry right now.

Like it feels like we're heading the way print has gone. Okay. And this was a nice little rejuvenator. Are you ready for this? So the song BBC is, I think the band is called Ming T. Yeah, Ming T. And can you name the members of ming tea who could it's a faux retro um mod band and mike myers is lead vocalist and guitarist

suzanna hoffs oh yeah that's right matthew fucking sweet i did know that actually a guy i don't know the name but maybe you have to dig into him. Stuart Johnson. And ready for this? Christopher Ward. Rhythm, guitar, and backing vocals. Are you fucking kidding me? I think Christopher co-wrote the song, did he not? I think so. That's amazing.

That's an FOTM. A lot of mind blows going on here. Yeah, that's cool. Ming T, everybody. But Susanna Hoffs. I had a big fucking crush on her. That was, man. All right.

Was it an eternal flame for her? It hasn't burned out yet. Let's just put it that way. Give me your hand, darling. Tell me, gentlemen, before we get to these jams, everybody's aching to get to the jams, but we did not do a toast in May.

I want to shout out YYZ Gord who did not expect to see Rob Pruce here in the flesh, and he's quite excited that we're all in the same room. We are as well. We love that. So much better when we're all in the same room. Oh, and I remember, Rob, you have a review to give us in a minute here.

I do? Yeah, you do. But you two podcast without me last month. We did. Tell me about this. Well, it didn't work out. We were ready to go on like the Tuesday. I know because Tony died. Yes. And then I... Shout out

to Tony. R.I.P. Tony. Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about your in-law. And I was like, you know what? Brother's in-law. Yeah, your brother... Oh, I said in-law. I know, but it's not my in-law. In-law. Oh, it's my in-law's dad. I see. I don't know how to do it. So, if you're... Okay, let me ask you. So, like, if your

brother's wife's dad dies, is that your in you. If your brother's wife's dad dies, is that your in-law? Your brother's wife's? No, you're not related to him at all. It's like my in-law's family. But he was a good chap. So I said to Rob, I said, you know what?

I need to get back on the train of getting some regular episodes out because I've only done... Because Loretta Swit was so amazing. Loretta Swit. You almost retired. need to do i i need to get back on the train of getting some regular regular episodes out and um because i hadn't done i've only done like because loretta swit was so amazing and then yes exactly i almost called it quits and then i had a friend of mine i met in jamaica on and then uh kieran sing who's an entrepreneur and really interesting woman to talk to and then i was like rob why don't we just go ahead and do it and we made it happen because you canceled on me once. Yes. That's right. Because you were going to be doing the filming.

So tell me, how did it go? Like, did you miss me at all? That's what I'm fishing for here. You were there in spirit. You were there in spirit. You were mentioned. I listened. Yeah.

And it was a great conversation with two friends. It was really fun. We could have gone so much deeper. Like, I was just like, we left so much on the table. Well, I do have a question for you, Bob. Okay.

So you guys are talking about, let's say you're talking about romantic traffic. and then rob is telling his great story about uh helping to write that song which we all love like do you even think about maybe putting a little romantic traffic in there like i just noticed you don't i'm on a bike ride i'm listening you guys talk about romantic traffic like just a little taste of it in the background like what are your thoughts on that i don't i don't put music in. I've never have. That's not true. You know why?

Who did I put music in for? I listened to Trevor Hurst on Bob's Basement. And I'm pretty sure I heard some music at the beginning. I don't know about that. Maybe off the top you gave a taste. Maybe. Did I dream that? I'll have to remember. I'll have to take a listen.

I don't know if I did. Do you know why I listened to that episode? Because you had Trevor Hurst on today. Yeah, so I used you, like the way I'm being used all the time for research. I'm like, I'm going to... And that's where I learned about him becoming a nurse. He has a great story.

I was so lucky. I just reached out to him randomly. And then we'll get back to you guys. Yeah, I just reached out to Trevor randomly and he got back to me right away. And I was a huge Econoline Crush fan when that album came out. And I honestly always thought with that band i think i told him the best they were so good live they were so good

live and i felt the album was good but they were so much better live he had such a presence on stage it was it was very and it was you know and we were talking about that can rock golden days of like i mother earth our lady peace econoline crush moist like all of these amazing bands right so yeah i that can rock golden days of like I Mother Earth, Our Lady Peace, Econoline Crush, Moist, like all of these amazing bands, right? So yeah, I mean, all that you are is crazy. I have a random weird Moist story. Oh, I would love to hear a random Moist story. When I came to Toronto in 2000,

I moved to Toronto to do Mamma Mia when we were in rehearsals and I moved into an apartment up near Spadina and Bloor and it was the apartment that belonged to Jeff Pierce, the bass player in Moist. He was moving down the hall with his girlfriend. Oh, wow.

It was the weirdest thing. It's like, hey, it's Jeff and I didn't know him at all but it was just like this funny random thing that we became friends and did some music together. Oh, nice.

Yeah, weird. That's my Moist story. So listeners should go to Bob's Basement to hear Trevor Hurst because I'm going to drop my episode on like Tuesday but also while you're listening

to Bob's Basement, you should listen while you're listening to Bob's Basement, you should listen to Rob Pruce on Bob's Basement. Yeah, it's a good one. It was a good one. Because you guys are good people, and you make good podcasts. I listened to your Gino Vanelli episode while I was driving up a couple days ago.

Oh, you hadn't heard it before. I hadn't heard it before. I need a... You kept talking about it, and I was so excited. So, review Gino Vanelli on Toronto Mic, then review the speaker you got to listen to season four of Yes We

Are Open an award winning podcast from Moneris hosted by FOTML Grego who I went to the Blue Jay game with earlier this week. So review the speaker but first review Gino Vanelli on Toronto Mike. Well you had referenced the Gino Vanelli episode a couple of times in the last while and I wasn't

sure it was sort of like the Molly Johnson episode in a way that I thought you talked about it like something went on. And I was expecting like. Oh, something to go south. Yeah, but it really didn't. No. And it was so fun. And he was such a funny, weird dude. Like, was he just sitting here with the guitar?

Yeah. Sitting there with a guitar. His brother was like sitting over there. And their laughter was so good, too. Oh, yeah. His brother would laugh at my jokes, which made me like him very much. That brother was like sitting over there. And their laughter was so good too. Oh yeah, his brother would laugh at my jokes which made me like him very much.

That's how you win my heart. And Gino, I'd ask him a question and then he'd break into like just strum along. It was very funny. It was very cute. Wild horses

couldn't drag me away. But your mixing, speaking of mixing and music to the conversation was fantastic because you brought in the songs. Thank you. That's it.

But hearing him like sort of just playing along was really fun. I loved it. It was really good. Now review the speaker upon which you listened to season four of Yes, We Are Open. I love the speaker. You love the speaker. It's great. It's really, really good. It is a high quality piece

of machinery. For a little tiny speaker. It is. I was pleasantly surprised. I was surprised too. I thought it was going to be tinny and it is not tinny. Nope. And I don't really, I'm not a fan of the name. It's got a Roxanne. Roxanne. Roxanne. We should point out just because

Al made a joke about this at the Jays game. Maneras doesn't make the speaker. I just want to point out they bought the speaker for you but they made the podcast. No, it's fantastic. I mean so what are you going to do? Roxanne. It's cute. But the speaker for you, but they made the podcast. No, it's fantastic. I mean, so what are you going to do? Boxan. It's cute. But the speaker sounds fantastic. I encountered it in the wild because I went to Ed Keenan's 50th birthday party,

and it was sitting on the table for the jams was his Boxan there. So, okay. I wanted that review in there. I want to shout out El Grego. I want to thank Palma Pasta. You've got your Great Lakes going. It's delicious i think we're about ready to kick out jams i'm checking my note here oh there's somebody missing from

today's recording our intern i never heard from our intern again so what was that early april we had an intern his name was welcome matt yep moose grumpy was here you might remember and uh moose grumpy i hope you're feeling better. She got COVID, and I think she got it pretty hard, I think. But welcome, Matt. I never heard another word from him. Never came back. So I don't know.

Gen Z, man. Yeah. Gen Z. Where's welcome, Matt? No word from welcome, Matt. Is that what you call being ghosted? Yeah, it's being ghosted. The Irish goodbye?

Is that the Irish goodbye? Is that ghosting? Irish goodbye is just when you leave a party without telling anybody. Which I did at Kenan's party. I did that. That's my move. But I did the move before I knew it had a name.

That's the Irish Goodbye? That's the Irish Goodbye. That's the best thing ever. Yeah, yeah. That's what I do. Because once you start, you never stop. And then you're there longer.

Also, I just think it's better for the host. You were there. You said hi. Now you just disappear into the abyss or whatever. Totally. Liza Fromer.

Do you know that name, Rob Pruess? Liza Fromer. And then I'm going to ask the guy who definitely knows that name.. Do you know that name, Rob Pruse? Liza Fromer. And then I'm going to ask the guy who definitely knows that name. But do you know that name, Rob Pruse? I've heard that name before, but I can't say why. Bob, tell Rob who Liza Fromer is. She worked for City TV, I believe. Breakfast Television. Was it just Breakfast?

I think so. Okay. She was on YTV. Speaking of Ed Conroy, because he does stuff at the Zoomerplex, which is the location that YTV used to be. She did a video in Arcade Top 10. She ended up on Breakfast Television. Then she went and did some global stuff. She came over

to kick out the jams a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago. She revealed in this conversation that her very first crush, so this is really, Rob, you have to listen to Liza Fulmer kicking out the jams. Her very first crush was Rob Proust from, Rob, you have to listen to Liza Fromer kicking out the champs. Okay. Her very first crush was Rob Proust from Spoons.

Oh, really? Yeah. That's great. Oh, geez. Was she 12? How old was she? She was a kid. You were a kid.

I was a kid, but the kids were younger than you and she's like maybe a titch older than me, but not much older than me. Yeah. She's probably older than me the same amount I'm older than Bob. That's amazing.

Okay. So just wanted you to know, go listen because she kind of swoons and I mentioned I know you and it got me a lot of points yeah she's probably older than me the same amount i'm older than bob that's amazing okay so just wanted you to know go listen because she kind of swoons and i mentioned i know you and it got me a lot of points with my summer here okay we're about to kick out the first jam but do you have any words to say about uh me myself and i because church of trees just dropped this single okay they got a new album called courage this is why i had carol pope on by the way the first time i had carol popon because she did something with church of trees yeah did you mix something for church so just tell me a little bit about it yeah i've been working i've been working on songs with them for like five years now um bernard fraser and they're from ottawa and we've met

like one christmas he was his he has family his i think his mom was living in hamilton and we met for a coffee in burlington. And he was like, oh, it would be great if we could do some music together. So I've done some remixes of songs and we've collaborated on some songs over the years. But that's the latest remix I did. He has a whole new album of remixes

and he took older tracks and gave them to me and a couple other guys. And that's the one that I did. And why do you know that? How did you? I'm in the know, man. You really are. Do you know who I am?

I know who you are. Do you know the name Jackie Dre? D-R-A-Y. Does that mean anything to you, Rob Bruce? Maybe. Okay. She says, to the once and future spoon

and honeymoon sweet keyboardist, do you still have hair after all these years? I have some. I'm just wondering, as an ex-high schooler, 1978 through 84, so I felt like she might know you from high school. And this was a tweet that she sent when she heard you were coming on.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you got good hair. Well, I mean, most of it's there. You got good hair. And I bleached it for many, many years, and now I'm letting it do whatever it does naturally. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm inspired by you guys.

Yes. Let me do that. We are all very salt and pepper here. Exactly. I like the salt and peppery. So, yeah. We're getting to be a lot more salt. I know.

Okay, and last note. I took so many notes because it's been two months, right, since you were here. But I took a note that only days after our last toast in which we kicked out like Broadway songs. That's right.

Toronto in the 90s. Days after Phantom of the Opera took its final Broadway bow after 13,981 performances. And I know that was announced well before we recorded. I was just oblivious. But I like to think we caused that. There was a tidal wave of emotion.

Yep. People just couldn't handle it. The music of the night. Big celebration. Yeah, it was a big deal. Did you go? I did not go. I had friends.

I knew people in the orchestra because I had subbed on the show over the last few years um before covet i had played quite a bit since mamma mia closed um i never actually saw the show on broadway but i had played it many times yeah but it was weird thinking that it's closed i actually saw the closing last sunday of andrew webber's most recent show called bad cinderella and it ran very short time it wasn't doing great great. And it was, it was a very fun show, but it closed last Sunday. And apparently it's the first time in 44 years or something that there's not at least one Andrew Lloyd Webber show running on the Broadway.

Well, that is interesting. Yeah. His, his run. That's a fun fact. Yeah. His run has sort of come to an end and people are like,

what's going to happen next? Yeah. Because Bad Cinderella was sort of the dovetail between, you know what, with Phantom and it's now nothing. First time since like this, you know, with Phantom. Yeah. Wow. Now nothing. First time since, I think, the early 80s. Right. Because Cats would have started and that went on forever. Well, before that he had Evita.

Oh, right. Is he Jesus Christ Superstar? He's Jesus Christ Superstar, too. So doesn't that, I don't know. 71. Yeah. But on Broadway in 71? Yeah, 71 or 72.

Oh, wow. Yep. So there you go. That's my contribution. I have the original London vinyl, the brown one. What's the buzz? Tell me what's happening. Why should you want to know?

Don't you mind about the future? We'll do a whole episode on Superstar. I was going to say, I could do the whole thing. I know the stuff in church, and that's my religion right there. It seems to me a strange thing, mystifying, that a man like you could waste his time on women of her kind hey cool it man i love it this is like who are you who to criticize her who are you who to despise her she's with me now leave her she's with me now if your slate is clean then you can throw we're like

doing bohemian rhapsody i could do the whole thing that is by far my favorite musical i just love that wow but my voice is not in very good singing shape right now we'll get back to drinking there listen i'm about who's going first rob or bob which of you wants to go the host you're the host why don't you go you guys i'm going last uh because i i know how i want to i'll go first because i have the shortest song okay yeah you're Yeah. You're going first. Then before Rob's first jam, now that I know he's going second, I have a question about a note I got from you about how many songs you had. And I actually need some explanation on that. So Bob Willett.

Wait, but your short one is not. Oh, it's not first? No, I think it's last. Did you want to be first? Oh, I thought. Yeah. Okay. So the songs are at the same time, but different. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do the be first? Oh, I thought, yeah. Okay. So the songs at the same time are different.

Yeah, yeah. Let's do the short one first, if you don't mind. Yes, you're right. I don't have the right order. You don't have the right order. I thought I gave that first. Okay, I've got it. You ready?

Yes, let's do it. Bob Ouellette, are you ready to kick out the jams? Let's do it. Let's do it. Hey! Just a little bit longer Please, please, please, please, please Tell me you're going to Now are your daddy down to mind? And your mommy down to mind?

If we have another dance Yeah, just the one more Wow. Wow. So good. Talk to me, Bob Willett, about your first jam, which is titled... Stay. Stay. Stay. It's Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs. Came out and they were recorded in 1960.

Interesting fact, I thought about this. Maurice wrote this when he was 15 years old. Yeah. He wrote it when he was 15 in like 1953 about a girl that he wanted to stay. He said it just came to him. And I obviously, I probably knew the song, but I don't know if I knew it.

The Dirty Dancing soundtrack, right? It's just in the air. It's there, right? I think it was in a commercial when Dirty Dancing soundtrack. It's just in the air. It's there, right? I think it was in a commercial when I was a kid. Probably. It might very well have been. I don't have that.

I can't remember what it's for but yeah, there was an ad. So there's interesting, a couple things that are really interesting about this song. So first of all, it is the short, I don't know if it's a fun fact.

I don't know if some, it's a fun fact, not a mind blow. The next thing might be a mind blow. The fun fact is this is the shortest song to ever reach number one on the Billboard Top 100. That's a very fun fact. That is a fun fact, not a mind blow. The next thing might be a mind blow. Your fun fact is this is the shortest song to ever reach number one on the billboard. That's a very fun fact.

That is a fun fact. Shortest song ever. It only was there for one week. And Elvis, Are You Lonesome Tonight, dethroned it. And that was it. Yeah. So the mind blow is what was interesting is it was released. And it really didn't get any traction for weeks on end, maybe even months,

I actually don't know, until CKLW, the big eight in Windsor added it. Yeah. And that was Rosalie Tremblay. That was Rosalie Tremblay. And? Today, I was at Canadian Music Week where they gave out the Rosalie Tremblay Award

to friend of Toronto Mike's. F-O-T-M, Mae Potts. Mae Potts won today yeah so wow um yeah so like when when when the the challenge was three songs with the same title my first i'll be i'll be honest my first reaction was hello and i was gonna do hello lionel richie um hello by dragonette okay and um what was my third hello um It was Hello, I Love You? No, that wasn't it. Adele, hello, that was it.

Yes, that was it. That was exactly it. But I was like, I don't love all three of those songs. I love this song. It's a great song. It's a doo-wop song, a minute and a half long.

It's a hit. It's got great tempo and energy, and then I didn't know anything about it being about the Canadian connection with CKLW adding it. And it really never would have been a number one song. I always think of that song because it was, Jackson Brown sang it as part of-

Jackson Brown. What was that song called? The Roadie song? Yeah. And it went into this and it was beautiful. Jackson Brown has done it. The Four Seasons have done it. Cindy Lauper.

Fuck Tuesday. Reminds me of the Four Seasons. done it. Cindy Lauper. What Tuesday? Reminds me of The Four Seasons. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, The Four Seasons have done it. Cindy Lauper has covered it. That's amazing. Yeah.

The Loadout is the Jackson Browne song. I had to cheat to find that out. So there you go. So that was my first song. Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs. And, yeah, that doo-w know, that Four Seasons falsetto. Really, really great. It was a lot of fun.

I was happy to when I when I figured out what I wanted to do. This is a really good one. Yeah. Now, it's interesting because for each of us, knowing that the title is going to be the same. My mind starts going, oh, okay. So I think I know at least one of your others. One little caveat here is that we did do this exact same topic on pandemic fridays and we i made sure none of us chose any songs that were done before popular one for example last time i

did this i used the song shine there were three songs called shine collective soul collective soul can you name them this would be a fun junk game. Junk House. Yeah. Shine. Shine, absolutely, yeah. So Junk House, Collective Soul. Can you name the third one? Think Canadian Alt-Rock from the 90s. I already did. I said Junk House. Yeah, keep going.

Doughboys. Oh, right, yes. Sun don't shine. And you know, a popular one when you're setting this up and explaining it is Jump. How many great jumps have you done? Did somebody do jump on yours? I believe so.

Chris Cross and Van Halen. Pointer Sisters. Pointer Sisters right there. Yeah, yeah. But I don't love all three of those. You have to love all three songs. Awesome. There you go.

That was number one. So Rob, before I kick out your first song, why did you write me and say you had 21 songs? Was that because you had seven different titles? I did. I had seven. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I started this playlist because songs that were just coming into my head as a single title. And I thought, oh, yes, I know that there's already a couple of versions. So I was coming up with at least two versions of songs and then going and searching for another one. Because it did take you a long time to get me your list where Bob and I jumped on it. I think the next day. As soon as you talked about it, you guys were both. That night I came up with it. Yeah, you guys were both already ready.

I'm a man of action, Rob. Now, the three that I ended up using were my first choices. So that's the way it goes, right? But I decided that I was going to do some searching to see if something was going to supersede that or surpass that. You had an extra month to do this? Yeah, you did have some time. But I ended up coming back to my first choices,

and you'll see why, because it was sort of obvious for me. I feel bad that we didn't start with... There you go. Maybe I'll do it right now. You're going to play that now? Yeah. How many songs are called Toast?

Yeah, right? F-O-T-M's. Do you know what time it is? It's... Every episode started with this, and now the streak is over. I'm going right into your jam. Rob, come in here.

And Toronto Mike. That's toast. Yeah, just toast. Alright. Oh, this is a fun game. Shout out to Steve Leggett, who says he loves toast. Love, love toast, he says.

He's on the live stream tonight. Live.torontomike.com Trying to hit the post. I don't remember where the post is. I fucked up. Where is that post? There it is Yeah She stole my heart away I've never been the same I've felt the strangest feelings

Like a raging fire and burning She left, I cried for weeks and I can't forget her All the lessons that I learned Love changes everything. Love makes you fly. You can break your wings. Do-do-do-do.

Do-do-do-do. Love changes everything. No wonder you like the do-do-do's. It reminds you of spoons. That's right. Exactly. Do-do-do-do-do-do. I'm going to ask Bob Willett a question. Bob, who sings this song? Love changes everything. It reminds you of spoons. That's right. Exactly. I'm going to ask Bob Willett a question.

Bob, who sings this song? You know, it's... I got it. That's the reason I'm asking. Yeah. I actually... I know the song, obviously. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know the song.

You know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song.

I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song. I know the song.

And I feel like... It could be in a John Hughes film. It feels like it should have been. It feels like it should have been a John Hughes film. It feels like it should have been, right? It feels like it should have been in a John Hughes film. But I couldn't tell you. I didn't know either. At first, I thought, for a second, I'm like, is that Glass Tiger? It's not Glass Tiger.

And then there's a little bit of, is that Rod Stewart there? There's a little Rod Stewart sound in there. The song was actually written for Rod Stewart. Was it? It sounds like some guys have all the luck. Yep, exactly. So they pitched it to Rod and he turned it down.

Okay, so I don't know who did it. And Rod Stewart, as you know, did work with Glass Tiger. That's right. Our town. Yes, that's right.

Which was stolen by Weezer. Listen to the episode to learn more. Alan Thru in front of Mike. Talk to us about this song, Rob Pruce. This is a band called Climby Fisher.

See, I can't remember that name at all. I know. It's really their only hit. And what is the title of the song? It's just... Love Changes Everything. Love Changes Everything. Yeah.

You have three songs that love changes everything? Oh, he's in for a treat. You're in for a treat. Wow. Because I thought changes. I'm like, okay, that's easy. You know, we were like... That's a good one too.

Yeah. And then you can talk about Bob's Basement. So Climby Fisher was Simon Climby and Rob Fisher. Okay. So they put their names together, and they got Simon Rock and High. Like Rock and High. You have Simon Climby played in the CFL, right? Am I right?

Exactly. That would be Jock Climby. Thank you. Hey-o! They were part of a band which you would remember did a beautiful cover. No. Naked Eyes. Yeah.

Always something there yes so that was that band evolved to become these two guys climbing fisher really uh-huh so that was their sort of like backstory that's a fun fact and they were both session musicians they wrote this song it was released in 1987 and didn't do anything they re-released it one year later and started going up the charts wasn't a huge huge hit but it was played in Canada. But it was all over Top 40. Exactly. It was like Chum FF. CFTR. Yeah, CFTR. Probably like the music,

maybe even CK Mix. Oh, for sure. It's got that sound of the like, it came out in 88, so to me, it's sort of the sound of that era. I mean, it sounds like Jet.

Do you remember Jet? Ooh, baby, Rocket 2 night. Oh, baby, that's... You remember Jet? Nope. I only remember Paul McCartney's Jet. I remember Jet? Ooh, baby. Rocket tonight. Oh, baby. You remember Jet? Nope. I only remember Paul McCartney's Jet. I remember Jet, the Australian.

Jet boy, Jet girl. Yeah, the one that ripped off Iggy Pop. Yeah, well, they all ripped off Iggy Pop. China girl. Anyway, there's a Jet that had a bunch of top 40 Jet in the late 80s that this reminds me of. Okay, so this song and this title, there's, you'll discover the reason

maybe for the next song. Don't spoil it. Do the... Do you want me to swap it? What? Well, because I have your, I copied and pasted your email to me, so I have the original order.

I'm closing with the big thing, okay? Just leave it in my trustworthy hands, okay? Okay. You can trust me. I've earned your respect and your trust i'll have a story about this this song that we just heard climbing fisher when we get to one of the other ones that the reason that the songs have similar titles was just a weird thing okay like a weird coincidence at the time so okay cool hold your fire proof it's

gonna be great okay just checking in here that was you I'm going to kick out my first jam. You guys ready? Yeah, sure. I think Bob was at this club last night. I was. I was. brings the dawn in it's just a restless feeling by my side

early dawn in sunday morning it's just a wasted year so close Sunday morning It's just a wasted year so close behind Watch out, the world's behind you There's always someone around you who will call It's nothing at all Okay, before I talk about my first jam, Mark Weisblot has shown up in the live. I just saw that too. I love Mark.

He says the band I was thinking of is called The Jets. Shout out to Jake Gold. You got to was thinking of is called The Jets. Shout out to Jake Gold. You gotta remember The. The Jets. He says it's a sibling band and their parents were from Tonga. And they had a Rocket 2U I think is the... Oh yes.

Late 80s. They had some other big hits too though didn't they? Yeah they had a few big hits. There's one that I'm gonna think of.. Well, I'm going to Google it. You Google it while I talk about my first jam here. Yeah, I love this song. Did you guys hear Wise Blood's Return to Toronto, Mike? It was unbelievable. I felt like I was listening to your 1000th episode.

Like it was so... That's a high bar. Yeah, no, it was really, really entertaining. Like I loved it. Hello, Mark. I'm a big fan. Yeah. You and Mike Epple might be the biggest Wiseblood fans, but I'm a big Wiseblood fan, too. It was good to have him back. I got a lot of reaction to it.

And my dear friend Rosie listened to her first ever Wiseblood episode, I think yesterday, listening to that one. And she was like, that was amazing. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, that's just sitting there. And if you choose to dive in and you get it, you fucking hits you like a cold wave of water in your face. And you're like,

I'm alive. Yeah. I'm alive. Okay. Velvet underground, not just the club that Bob will let frequent. And used to DJ at. Right.

This is Nico, right? Yes. Okay. So right. This is the opening track from their 1967 debut album, which was called, it was actually called The Velvet Underground and Nico. I guess they had to negotiate with, who's the artist, the pop artist?

Andy Warhol. Right. I knew that. Okay. So we are all of an age where we grew up with Andy Warhol. Like he was just this guy. He was around. Okay.

Kids today are like, who's Andy Warhol? Oh yeah. He drew the pictures guy. He was around. Kids today are like, who's Andy Warhol? Oh, yeah. He drew the pictures of the soup cans. Okay. So this came out in December 1966. That voice you heard belonged to Lou Reed. Amazing. Lest we forget,

FOTM Kevin Hearn was with Lou in his last days and spent time with Lou Reed. And I want to say, in effect, I know this to be true. As I look at the photo here of Brian Linehan in the TMDS studio,

I am reminded that was gifted to me by Sammy Cohn, drummer for The Watchmen, and Sammy Cohn might be the world's biggest Lou Reed fan. Really?

Massive Lou Reed fan. So Lou Reed says that that song, Sunday Morning, which I love, I love that song, obviously, or I wouldn't be

kicking it out today, was suggested by Andy Warhol, and this is the quote. Andy said, why don't you just make it a song about paranoia? I thought that was great, so I came up with, watch out, the world's behind you. There's always someone around you who will call. It's nothing at

all, which I feel is the ultimate paranoid statement in that the world cares enough to watch you. And yeah, so there's my first Sunday morning. And spoiler alert, I'm kicking out two more songs today, and they're all called Sunday Morning. That's fascinating.

There you go. I can't even imagine another song called Sunday Morning. Well, buckle up. Okay. You're in for a treat. But I have a little mind blow. I have a little mind blow. Oh, here we go. Here we go. It's just a restless feeling

By a bus stop Early dawn and Sunday morning It's just a wasted years so close Who can name that band covering Sunday Morning by the Velvet Underground? I cannot. Not I. I'll give you a clue because I didn't think you'd get it messed up.

What if I told you this was one of my favorite bands of all time and that suggests it's probably a Canadian alt-rock band of the 90s. The voice doesn't sound like anybody that you love. What if I told you that voice we're hearing now belongs to... I don't know whose voice it is.

Now that I hear it, it doesn't sound like the brick layer from Sudbury. This is Rusty. Really? Rusty covering Sunday Morning by Velvet Underground. I've always loved Sunday Morning. It's just like I love heroin, and there's a whole bunch of these Velvet Underground. Phrasing, Michael!

I love heroin. It pairs nicely with my Great Lakes beer, but I do love some Velvet Underground. Yeah, totally. But this one kind of haunts me. The way that Lou Reed's like Perfect Day kind of washes over you and haunts you. Yeah. I remember getting introduced to Velvet Underground

long after, like way, like, and hearing... You mean not in the 60s, Bob? No, well, just in general, like, again, you know, working at CFMYA, you're hanging out with people who are very, very cool. And my favorite band doesn't even exist yet. You know, one of those things. But when I got into them,

beyond like Walk on the Wild Side, and realizing how good... There's a solo track, though. Ahead of the... Thank you. Ahead of the curve they were weirdly ahead too right like they were doing things and making music that sounds and that like 10 years it took before people were like and then all of a sudden like they were alternative before alternative was even

a consideration like that first album came out you said 66 right yeah like yeah to think that that was around the time that the Beatles were making Sgt. Pepper and now they had made Revolver but to know what was happening in America at that time is really a mind blow 100% right

maybe the first alt-rock band of all time yeah I would that's an argument for sure first ever I would say that yeah

I mean the argument between them and Bowie yeah I think it's the first alt-rock band or performance but Bowie was influenced by them as well

absolutely so you follow that trajectory for sure. I like Rusty's version. Okay, we're going to roll right into... We already know the name, but I'm here. So I'm actually just checking where... Oh, here we are. Okay, you ready, Bob?

Yeah, do it. Stay. Oh! It was so obvious, Rob. I totally forgot this this one it's one of my favorite songs how can you forget this me too yeah oh my god oh 25 years ago 25 years ago shout out to ethan hawke you say let's sing it everybody come on i only hear what i want to And you say I talk so all the time

So And I thought what I felt was simple And I thought that I don't belong And now that I am leaving Now I know that I did't belong And now that I am leaving Now I know that I did something wrong Cause I missed you Yeah, yeah I missed you

I'm not fading it down until after this great part coming up on it. And you say I only hear what I want to I don don't listen hard, don't pay attention to the distance that you're running, to anyone, anywhere, I don't understand, if you really care, I'm only here in negative, I turned the radio off, and this woman was singing my song. Lover's in love and the other's run away. Lover is crying cause the other won't stay. Some of us have a really weak for the other who was dying since the day they were born. Well, this is not that thing that I'm throwing, but I'll throw.

And I thought I'd live forever, but now I'm not so sure you try to tell me that I'm throwing but I'll throw And I thought I'd live forever But now I'm not so sure You try to tell me that I'm clever That won't take me anyhow Or anywhere with you You said that I was naive And I thought that I was strong I thought, hey, I can leave, I can leave Oh, but now I know that I was strong. I thought, hey, I can leave, I can leave.

Oh, but now I know that I was wrong. Because I miss you. Yeah, I miss you. I don't want to fade it down. I'm digging it. It's such a good song. It really is. One of the best pop songs ever written.

Wow. And the video, obviously, as you mentioned, directed by Ethan Hawke on the Reality Bites soundtrack. How did you not, in 94, when it comes out, I am 18 years old. How do you not fall in love with Lisa Loeb and her beautiful cat eye glasses? Yes. And the way she looked at the camera through that video. Hook it to my veins. I have seen her twice.

I'm a huge fan. I'm not sure I can name a second Lisa Loeb. I can tell you two of her great, two amazing albums. No, most people can't. I don't need to. With one hit wonder, sometimes you're like, I don't even care. It doesn't matter she uh the album uh ended up on um so she her second album was i just

had it was firecracker okay and the album that this ended up on after reality bites was oh i just had it and i just lost it but it's okay i'll get it in a second this song uh obviously released in 1994 here's a little interesting thing. It was originally written for Daryl Hall for a solo. He wrote it. She wrote it all and they were going to sell it to Daryl Hall. She came out in 1994. A couple years later

That's a big mind blow. Yeah. The lyric pre-Lilith Fair just pre-Lilith fair and it comes on in a time when everything on the charts is stone temple pilots and pearl jam and sound garden and nirvana and this song comes along and it crosses all genres it's a pop rock it ends up on the radio on all these stations like 94 was a beautiful year for this kind of music too yeah like for me i

always think of 94 as the year that jeff buckley came to the world and he came to the world that spring and summer but this song has that same vibe like it comes from the single soundtrack from 91 92 leading into this sound you know it's just beautiful yeah so i i mean i've like i said i really need to find the name of this other album now because it bothers me okay i'm on the wiki page looking for it it's buried tails tails okay so tails in 95 and it's got a great song called snow on the wiki page looking for it. It's buried. It's Tales. Tales. So Tales in 95 and it's got a great song called Snow Day. Tales is a great album.

It's really good. Firecracker's okay. And then after that she moves on. She ends up doing a bunch of children's music. I know, that's right. Yeah.

That sounds beautiful. Her Bread and Butter, I mean obviously Her Bread and Butter is that song. I mean she owns all the published, she owns the song.

So she has that. She also now does a show on Sirius XM on the 90s on nine she has a show there um i mean what do you what can you say about that that song that isn't uh it's just a great song i don't think you could be my friend if you don't like that song yeah i mean she was nominated for a grammy for best pop performance but they didn't they lost to all for ones i swear oh man remember that was released both years. John Michael Montgomery did it as the country version.

But this song lives on. Yeah. I mean, for me, you call it a one-hit wonder. I would put it. But there's no shame in being one-hit. It's one more hit that I have. Yeah. Absolutely.

He's got hits. He's got hits. No, no. But I would put it in the, for me personally, of singles from the 90s. That's got hits. He's got hits. No, no. But I would put it in the pan, for me personally, of singles from the 90s. That's a top 20 song. You know what? I sort of put it in the same category for me

as Natalie Imbruglia with Torn. Torn, same thing. Which is like four years later. Yes, that is a great song. It's a cover, sure. That is a great song. But her version is the hit. But I'll take Lisa Loeb over Natalie Imbruglia.

Will you? Oh, all day long. I feel like Natalie, wasn't she like a soap opera star in australia i would take so this i you know what i like in this too vanessa carlton's a thousand miles very very similar turn yes yeah um i'd like it's so funny there are guys of a certain age uh that just love this song so much yeah my wife thinks it's hilarious i'm like like, what? She's an attractive brunette. You're an attractive brunette. We like that look. I think there's a

we like the smart, attractive woman in the glasses. A little nerdy, but hot. It's a little Velma from Scooby-Doo. A little Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island. Yes, exactly. I picked it probably started with that first and I thought he was going to disqualify me

because it is a parentheses song. Oh, you know what? Maybe I will disqualify you. Because it's Stay, parentheses, I missed you. You know what? Technically, that is a violation. Hey, now, you let me do it. You know, what am I going to do?

I can't fine you or whatever. You're going to kick me out now? Yeah. But that is a violation. When I moved to New York doing Mamma Mia, I had a friend who I met who lived in the same apartment building as the producer of Stay, Juan Patino.

Juan Patino, yes. And I met him. He does photography and stuff as well, but I met him. And also the bass player on the song who played with Lisa in her band subbed with us at Mamma Mia. Oh, wow.

Joe Quigley is his name. He was in Nine Stories because it was originally Lisa Loeb and Nine Stories. That's right. Yes, Lisa Loeb and Nine Stories. so when we started the show we had these musicians coming in the pit who were like getting recommended and they were like yeah like new york dudes right right and joe played lisa lobe it was super cool yeah and i i actually came very close to booking her on bob's basement yeah yes i was right after loretta Swinn. No, it was before.

I've been talking to her management. Yes, I reached out randomly and I was reaching to her management and her publicity and they were like, yeah, Lisa's really busy right now

as the pandemic was ending and I was like, okay, I'm really interested. I would really love to. I'm a huge fan. Go again. And they ghosted me eventually. Do you know who I booked

on Toronto Mic? But I don't want you to steal them from me but I booked Vernon Reed from Living Color. Wow, good for you. That's cool. I just thought that was interesting. I booked him and he's in my schedule too.

He's in the schedule now? He's in the book? He's in the book. That's everything. He's in the book. He's in the book like Brad Bradford and Scott MacArthur. That's cool. That's a good jam, Bob. That was my number two stay song. Although I'm not ranking them.

No, I don't believe in ranking art. You know that. But I'm going to win. Okay, so that was great. That song was called... I do think you are disqualified, just FYI. I gave it to you. All I said was I had one fucking rule,

which is three songs you love that have identical titles. Yeah, they're all called Stay. What, I'm the police? No, I'll call you out on the show. This is the time I'm calling you out. That title is different than the first song you played. It's called Stay

and then something in parentheses. Parentheses don't count. No. What is in parentheses? I forget now. I missed you. I missed you. Stay, parentheses, I missed you.

You're disqualified, but I'm going to continue. I'm out of here. I'm going to let you stick around. That's you. I missed you. Stay parentheses. You're disqualified, but I'm going to continue. I'm out of here. I'm going to let you stick around. That's it. Fuck this shit. I'm going to be out of here. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home,

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Can he repeat his champion? You'll find out in Life's Undertaking, which we're recording next week. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home and recyclemyelectronics.ca. That's where you go to find out where you can safely drop off your old speaker, Rob, now that you have this amazing new speaker to listen to.

Yes, we are open. Boxing! Recyclemylectronics.ca RecycleMyElectronics.ca Let's kick out the second Rob Pruess jam. And I don't even have to spoil it by telling you it's going to be called Love Changes Everything. Here we go.

Oh, it's got a... You want to talk it up a bit? Or what? I just see here, I've got two minutes of talk-up time. Do you have any stories you want to share? Not yet. We're just listening. Really? It's your jam. Okay. Love. Love changes everything. Okay. Oh, Darla.

Okay. He starts quiet, but he gets louder, everybody. Love. Love changes everything. What shows this from? Bob doesn't know. I don't. He's really kicked out of here.

Love can make the summer fly Or a night seem like a lifetime Yes, love, love changes everything Now I tremble at your name. Nothing in the world will ever be the same. Beautiful, isn't it? It's beautiful, but the waveform is interesting because every time they go through it, it gets louder. And the last time, it's really loud.

Because it builds up. Yeah, it's like a build-up song. Is this from Michael Ball? This is Michael Ball. This is from the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical called Aspects of Love. I don't know this song. It played here in Toronto. It played a little while. A little bit.

This song and this musical came to the world in 1989, I believe. And it ran in London. It came to New York and played at the Broadhurst Theater, I believe in 1990. It just opened in 90. Um, and it wasn't a hugely successful musical, but I've always loved the sound of this song. This was for me when I was just getting into the world of musical theater.

loved the sound of this song. This was, for me, when I was just getting into the world of musical theater, and it kind of freaked me out because it had this the name of the song was Love Changes Everything. Here's a little dialogue. Alex, it's all in the past. It's all in the past. And then there's a key change. He Barry Manilow'd it.

It's getting bigger. Barry Manilow'd it. I love that. Barry Manilow'd it. They changed gears. They move it up. So this show was running in London and it came to New York. And in Canada, it played in Edmonton. So they didn't take it to Toronto right away.

It is our cultural capital. It really is. Nobody knows that except the people of Edmonton. Sheldon Monica! Yeah. And in Edmonton, they sort of reinvented the show because before they took it to Broadway was it at Broadway already? No, it ran at Broadway and closed they wanted to do a touring production so they went to Edmonton and they had a new director

a Canadian director, Robin Phillips is his name and I went out and did some keyboard programming for the show but I just always loved this music because it was when my introduction to musical theater was happening, and I was catching all the new musicals. Yeah, that's great. And it had the name Love Changes Everything, which for my third song will all become clear.

It will all become clear. Those in the know already know. Yeah, exactly. This song, this Angeloid Webber version, was sung 10 million times. There's 10 million versions on Spotify. And you love that song. And I like the song.

Like it or love it? You're disqualified too. I win. I played it a lot. I'm out of the washroom. We used to do a song series. Bob's been drinking all day. That bladder is not as big as you think it is.

We did a song series, a song cycle at the Pentages Theatre called The Music of Andrew Lloyd Webber. I gotta say, I like now that we're alone, I'll tell you. I prefer your hair with the white versus the artificial bleach or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. Like you have natural highlights. I got natural highlights. It's dark. Like why would you not always, what does your wife think? She likes it. Yeah, I like it.

Well, thank you. Well, you inspired me. Thank you. And it was just, I had no say in the matter. Like this is just what nature did and that's what you're showing off what nature did. Exactly. Looks you. And it was just, I had no say in the matter. Like, this is just what nature did. And that's what you're showing off what nature did. Exactly.

Looks great. And I'll let it keep going and see what happens, you know? But I think when I think about- You, me, and Hayden are going to get together and show off our big white- Exactly. Hair. Exactly. Okay.

But anyways, yeah. Oh, you want to play the other weird version I sent you today? Because it's this version, but a cover version of this song. Okay. Do you have that cued up. Yes, I have it here. Let's listen. This is weird to me and very funny.

Bob's missing out but he can listen to this because I'm recording it later. He can listen later. Okay, some reggae. Setting the mood. Stir it up. Exactly.

Little Darwin. It's Sting. Oh, this is Gordon Sumner. It's Mr. Sumner singing at your service. It's hilarious. This is Gordon Sumner. Okay, let me hear it. With Shaggy.

Oh, I know this. Yes. Yes. I didn't know this. From like five years ago. So why did they do this? Why did they do this? I want to know.

They toured together. They did a whole album together. But why did they do this? Yeah, but why are they doing this obscure and only Rob Pruse length? Yeah, I know. Because he's Sting. I know. He can do whatever the hell he wants. He makes everything sound good. He could sing the phone book. Like Stingy's Tantric. Sting-a-ling-ause length. Yeah, I know. Because he's stingy. I know. He can do whatever the hell he wants.

He makes everything sound good. He could sing the phone book. Like Stingy's Tantric? Sting-a-ling-a-ling. Yeah. He's a good digger too, right? We learned that from The Simpsons. Yeah.

Good digger. Okay. But yeah, I just thought it was funny that he did this. If you go to Spotify or Apple Music or anywhere, you'll see many versions of this Angelic Webber song

because it's a pretty song. It's a nice melody. It's a nice sentiment. So there's many versions of it. There's not, the song is fine. I don't want to sound like a dink, but there's nothing to me

that's memorable. Like I won't be singing this tonight, but you might, you don't know. I'll let you know. This is the secret of Andrew Lloyd Webber is he has a way of like, you think,

what is this? It's so simple. Oh yeah, he's the, don't cry for me Argentina. That is a catchy one. That is a catchy one. That is a catchy one. Okay, thank you for the Mind Blow.

You know, Bob, you're also welcome to submit Mind Blows anytime you want. I like Mind Blows. I know, I have before. I know, I know. I'm just saying, you didn't send any today. That's all. I'm just calling you out on that.

Okay, are you guys ready for another song by me with the title Sunday Morning? Okay, here's my second jam. No doubt. Yep. We used to play this on Saturday nights at Club 102

around 1.30 in the morning because it was technically Sunday morning. I love this song. It's a great song. I forgot. That's scoff. Yeah.

Sappy, pathetic little me. That was the girl I used to be You had me on my knees I'd trade you places any day Oh, he's amazing, yeah. I never thought you could be that way This album's amazing, actually. We'll get to it. You look like me on Sunday

You came in with the breeze On Sunday morning. You sure had changed yesterday without any warning. I thought I knew you. Whoa! I thought I knew you. Whoa! I thought I knew you.

Whoa! It's hard to turn down I know who I am But who are you? I heard there's You know What an album Tragic Kingdom is

I think this might be My favorite song On Tragic Kingdom Really? It's hard to quantify There's so many great songs But okay So if you don't know

If you don't know What the hell's wrong with you What are you doing Listening to Toronto Mike? This is No doubt This is their third Studio album, but let's face it. This is the breakout.

This is the one that everyone had to have. It was called Tragic Kingdom, mid-90s, 95 actually. And this song, oh, I want to turn it up again. Hold on. Gwen Stefani, Eric Stefani, and Tony, you never know,

Tony Canal, Canal, right? Yeah. Produced by Matthew Wilder. Okay, so here's a game for you guys. Matthew Wilder produced it. Yes.

You know, his big hit, Break My Stride. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Also reggae. Oh, yeah. He wrote some musicals too,

like Disney film or something. He wrote, Nobody's gonna break my film or something nobody's gonna hold me down uh oh here this is the part yeah

this breakdown there it is together Amber who are you you're not looking like you used to

you're on the other side of the mirror I'm so nervous I'm gonna smash up your mouth thank you for turning on the lights thank you I'm going to smash up here. Thank you. Thank you.

So the fun story about, I'm going to give you guys a trivia question in a minute, but the fun story about Eric Stefani, Gwen's brother. So he writes this, he's co-writer of this song just before he leaves the group. So he leaves, I believe he leaves before

even Tragic Kingdom comes out. And where do you think he went? This is due to creative differences. He didn't like the direction they were going in, which is obviously I guess less ska and more like poppy, rocky guess, less ska and more like poppy, rocky, hybrid, you know, more mainstream, if you will. But where do you think he went?

Rancid. Eric Stefani, where did he go? It wasn't in the field of music. Oh. You want to know where he went after he left, no doubt? Apple Music. Plumbing. He left to animate for The Simpsons.

Oh, cool. Yeah, he went into animation with The Simpsons. Oh, cool. Yeah, he went into animation with The Simpsons and also Ren and Stimpy, two shows I thoroughly enjoyed. A little bit, yeah. Wow. Like those a little bit, do you? I love the music on Ren and Stimpy.

You know, Ren and Stimpy is problematic because the creator is very, very problematic, but the show, let's face it, I fucking love that show. Did you ever see that there was a good documentary on him, the creator? Oh, John problematic. But the show, let's face it, I fucking love that show. Did you ever see that there was a good documentary on him, the creator? Oh, John Kay. Yeah.

Because no one can say his last name. Yeah, yeah. Ferkusi Krifu. Yeah, you know, a lot of great artists are bad people. So, okay, he can go in that category. Amazing. Along with R. Kelly, because I almost kicked out the Ignition remix.

Just kidding. Okay. So, can you gentlemen name for me the singles that preceded Sunday Morning? What if I told you this was the fifth?

Wow. The fifth single released from Tragic Kingdom. I think Bob's got the advantage here just because, but go shut it out.

You don't have to get in the right order. Spiderwebs. Spiderwebs was the second single released from Tragic Kingdom. Don't speak. Don't speak was the

third single released. Keep going speak. Don't speak was the third single released. Keep going. Was it a hit? No. Yeah, it was a big. They're all big fucking hits. They're all big fucking hits. You're missing the first big hit.

Yeah, what was the first? It was a big one. Spiderwebs was the first hit, wasn't it? No, Spiderwebs was the second. Wow. They had a monster hit before Spiderwebs. Oh. I don't know how that's in front of mebs Did you forget I'm just a girl

Just a girl So here it was I thought Spiderwebs was the first single According to my research Just a girl is the first single Just a girl is the first single Released in September 95 And then Spiderwebs is released in

November 95 And then Don'tbs is released in November 95. And then Don't Speak comes out in April 96. Excuse Me Mister is the fourth single. That's in August 96. And then finally, the fifth single, Sunday Morning, comes out in late May

1997. Think about that. And they toured so many times on that. You can't do that today, right? You can't put out an album in 95 and get a big hit single in 97. What's an album? What's a hit single? Really, those things don't exist anymore.

There's no much music to get the video. Did either of you watch the Jimmy Iovine documentary, The Defiant Ones? No, I want to see it. He is very much responsible for the success of Gwen Stefani and that band. There's an entire episode where they feature heavily in it. And it's really interesting

watching what Jimmy did with Gwen Stefani. Very, very interesting. I think it's on Apple TV. It is one of the best music. Yeah, the Defiant Ones. It's one of the best music documentaries I've ever watched. I saw them play at the Molson Amphitheater in 2000 summer of 2000 they played molson i saw i saw them with

bush uh at maple leaf gardens where they were her and gavin rossdale met on the tour in 95 or 96 i mean it might have been 96 actually yeah i saw i saw yeah i saw it was uh no doubt opened and and bush yeah bush clothes i believe they were coming out just with Razorblade Suitcase at that time with the second album after 16 Stone Bush. Wow. Yep. I was a big Bush guy too. I loved Bush.

I know. I loved Bush. You're still, like the hair. The bushy hair. Yeah, it's a Mighty Bush. What you saying about my Bush? Mighty Bush. Mighty Bush is a great show.

I love that show. Oh my God. I know. I'm obsessed still. Wait, what is that? He's in a jazz trance. He'sosh is a great show. I love that show. Oh my God. I know. I'm obsessed still. Wait, what is that? What show? He's in a jazz trance. He's in a jazz trance.

Mighty Boosh is a British- It was a British comedy show. Comedy show that is- I don't remember it. So yeah, it's kind of culty. I don't think it was ever played on North American television anywhere really. I believe it's- Not even PBS?

No, I don't think so. I only ever saw it on DVD. Okay. I knew people who had it. Do you own the box set? The Mighty Boosh. As we're talking about your bush. That's what they have the name.

It was Noel Fielding. It was either him or the other guy. What's his name? They're amazing though. His friend said he had a mighty bush. You can't pick a man out of a jazz trance. You two gentlemen, Bob and Rob,

as I call you, not Coy and Vance anymore. Now it's Bob and Rob. We earned our own real names. I said to Weissel, I put it on the record. Yeah. Because I did have corresponding

because Stu's friend, the Iron Giant, Iron Giant. The Iron Giant. I love that movie. It's a good movie, yeah. The Iron Sheik, yes. The Iron Giant. Okay, so Stu's friend it's a good movie yeah the Iron Sheik yes

the Iron Giant okay so Stu's friend the Iron Giant the Iron Sheik not the Iron Giant I sent him a note and I was

we were talking about him coming on and stuff and I realized like it's imminent at some point Stu and Cam are gonna be like

let's come back and do Toast and when they do I'll be like okay but I am never going until one of you two quits on me like, okay, but I am never going

until one of you two quits on me or both of you, but I am never going to get rid of this flavor of toast because it's just as good to me, just different. Yeah, thank you. They both bring stuff to the table,

but I love the Rob Pruse and Bob Ouellette flavor of toast. Well, thank you. We love doing that. We do love doing that. Even though we missed a month, but we're going to catch up because we're actually, I think we're, well, we'll talk later, but I think we're doing two. Well, thank you. We love doing that. We do love doing that. Even though we missed a month, but we're going to catch up because we're actually,

I think we're, well, we'll talk later, but I think we're doing two this month, but okay. I want to tell you two because you're both kind of big brands unto yourself. You're famous people.

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And you can learn more about how they can help you achieve your public relations goals. Are you ready for a third Bob roulette song called stay? Oh yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. I know it's going to be. Do you?

Well, what do you think? Say it quick. Say quick. Cause he's chicken shit. Wow. He doesn't trust his instincts. I know it's going to be. Do you? Well, what do you think? Say it quick. Say it quick. I say no. Because he's chicken shit. Wow. He doesn't trust his instincts.

No. I had it all wrong. What were you going to say? What were you going to say? I thought it was going to be. I thought of Blue Rodeo. But they don't have a song. I don't know if they do. No, you're thinking of Try.

I'm thinking of Try. That's exactly right. I just played Jim Cuddy for Michael Grange. This is a good jam kicking too. But let's listen to Bob's great jam. Stay with me Stay with me In the silence of your room In the darkness of your dream You must only think of me There can be no in between When your pride is on the floor, I'll make you beg for more.

Stay with me. Stay with me You gotta at least bring up, like, not, we gotta get this, is it here? Yeah. You better hope and pray That you make it safe Back to your own world You better hope and pray

That you'll wake one day In your own world Cause when you sleep at night They don't hear your cries In your own world Only time will tell If you can't break the spell Back in your own world

Stay, Bob. Stay. Shakespeare's Sister. What a great song. I forgot about that song. Oh, what's that? So orchestral, so big. This could have been produced by Jim Steinman.

Yeah, well, just like Rob's jam, I can see the buildup in the waveform. Yeah, watch the waveform, right. Yeah. It's another song that I think was definitely very much helped by the video. The video with the gothic look.

So Shakespeare's Sister, interesting, was actually kind of like a solo project for Siobhan Fahey who had just left Bananarama. This song, one of the co-writers, co-written by a famous half of a duet from the

80s. Andrew Ridgely. Give a clue. A male-female duo from the 80s. Dave Stewart. Yes, sir. There you go. That was my next guest after Andrew Ridgely. That was your second guest after Andrew Ridgely. They were a couple, I think. That was your second guest after Andrew Ridgely?

I think they're married. Maybe. I don't even know if they're married. Yeah, Dave Stewart gets a co-write on this along with this other Marcella Detroit. Toronto Blue Jay pitcher Dave Stewart? Yes, Dave Stewart, Toronto Blue Jay. Yes, exactly. That guy had a glare, eh?

Like that look he did you. Yes, he did. Yes. So Shakespeare's sister was actually, the name was named after a smith song which is which is that's cool yeah yeah and uh but it was shakespeare's sister the song had the apostrophe as it should this one doesn't and they just kept it to differentiate it yeah yeah um obviously i would say fun facts you got today i would say a one hit wonder for sure but cool album like the whole record was really good yes uh i think this song was like top five in canada in the u.s was named like the video of the year in the uk like huge huge song yeah um yeah when we

were coming up with i said but you guys like have like you have a full phrase and you have like you have a two-word title yeah i kept it simple like like we were talking earlier about jump or something so i'm like with stay obviously i know i'm already i'm disqualified but um this you know this is one of those ones i can still remember again high school for me this is 93 yeah i'm in grade 11 93 it's 93 this comes out and it sounded like nothing else on the radio nothing else on television and it resonates with the sound of the 80s in many ways because it almost sounds like something that would have been like on a george michael album like something that like like listen without prejudice which came out 90 yes right yes there's something with the with the atmosphere and the simplicity of the instrumentation

yes it's all about the voice it's all about the voice and uh yeah i mean it was it was people loved it right it was gorgeous yeah i forgot all about it. Yeah, it's a great song. Didn't you two have a song also called Stay? Far away, so close. Maybe. But the parentheses would disqualify me. But the parentheses would disqualify me, yeah. I'm thinking of other Stay songs.

But did either of you two study Shakespeare? Of course. Did either of you study any Shakespeare after high school? Not really. Yeah, I did. I had in university, I had in Drama 101, I would have done. Okay. But it left a huge impression.

Like one of my favorite movies of all time is Romeo and Juliet. The Olivia Hussey. Oh, yeah. You know. Of course. Because studying. That's the only time we saw boobs in school. No, seriously.

I remember it because it was unbelievable to me that they rolled in the damn TV and we all watched a movie and she's topless. And I'm like, am I in school right now? We studied the book in grade 10, of course, like we all did. Grade 10 was when we were children. And then in Burlington, we went to a movie theater.

We went to Skyway Plaza and there was a movie theater there and we saw a screening of it. It became one of my favorite films of all time. It's in my top ten always. Bob's more of a Baz Luhrmann, Romeo and Juliet fan, which has a great soundtrack. Yes, it does.

I was trying to look up if Shakespeare actually had a sister. William? Yeah, if William Shakespeare actually had a sister. There's a great TV series, a BBC show, a comedy series, I don't know how old it is now, called Upstart Crow. Oh, I don't know it, no.

It's about Shakespeare and his family, like when he's writing his plays and things. Oh, wow. But it's a total, like a satirical thing where everybody's,

where he's a bad writer and all his family are like giving him ideas of what to write and it's so funny. Funny. Unless we forget, like since we last convened for Toast, Succession has wound down. And it's so funny. Unless we forget, like since we last

convened for Toast, Succession has wound down. I don't know if either of you guys watch it, but it's very King Lear. Is it? I watched the first few episodes. And then you tapped out. Yeah, because I can't, I think, I don't know if I've said this to you, I can't watch shows where the characters

have no redeeming qualities. I can't do it. I loved Mad Men because Don Draper no redeeming qualities i didn't watch i can't do it i just i loved mad men because don draper had redeeming qualities i love sopranos because tony soprano had redeeming they're horrible human beings but on succession i found zero redeeming qualities in most of the people in there so remind me of the tony redeeming qualities like the fact he was a decent dad yeah he he he was a complex character because he actually, I mean, he's a mob boss that goes to therapy.

Like he's trying. He's having panic attacks. Yeah. Yeah, because he hates what he's doing in his heart. Well, I know, I know, but that's why he goes to therapy because he doesn't want

to have these panic attacks. So that to me means that he has redeeming qualities. And Walter White? You know what? I haven't watched Breaking Bad and I know I'm missing out. Only because I admit

that they're all hateful characters on Succession, but for some reason I can watch a show And Walter White? You know what? I haven't watched Breaking Bad, and I know I'm missing out. Only because I admit that they're all hateful characters on Succession, but for some reason, I can watch a show even if there's no heart. I'll be honest. I'm not a Seinfeld fan.

I never... I get his humor, and I get it, but I don't enjoy watching... What's Seinfeld? Ah! There you go. Atta boy.

Yeah, so that's just my own... I'm a little too empathetic, I think, sometimes. Well, you gotta be Bob, right, Bob? And Ron keep Gillette, for fuck's sake my own... I'm a little too empathetic, I think, sometimes. Well, you've got to be Bob, right, Bob? And Ron, you're Gillette, for fuck's sake. Every time I listen to Bob's Basement, I'm reminded... Whose voice is that again? My buddy Adam Robinson, who used to be the head of engineering.

You should do your... You've got a great voice. Why aren't you doing your voiceover? Because that's too cheeseball to do your own voiceover. Well, I don't want to... Yeah, it's a little radio thing where, you know... You've got to have some standards. Only because every time we do toast... See, Stu had a regular guy voice and cam gordon had a regular guy voice and rob has a

regular guy voice and i have a regular guy voice i got a regular guy no you don't actually you have a deep baritone radio voice and i hear what are you talking about i don't have that ballsy like i don't have don't you think he does it's not ballsy though it's just in real life too it's just that's the way you are made but it's not like i don't know i don't you think he does it's not ballsy though it's just in real life too it's just that's the way you were made but it's not like I don't know I feel like well I didn't say

it was Tom Wilson from Jump House no I was gonna say you ever have John Squalls on yeah twice John Squalls has like that old

like he's like but you're doing it now but you have the kind of voice that you could put it on which is interesting because when you're we can't put it on when you're on radio

when you put it on I always listen to Casey Kasem and his American Top 40, right? Yeah, of course. And they do it. So on iHeartRadio, they play every hour

goes from the 70s to the 80s, 70s, 80s, constantly. Nice. But on Memorial Day weekend, they started in 1970 and they played every episode in order until 1987. Wow.

Like every top 100. All 40? Every 100 of the year, every year. And what I have always found interesting is that his voice got younger as he got older, which is weird. I think he started putting it on more.

In the 70s, he was younger and he was trying to deepen it and sound a little more thoughtful in some ways. And as it got into the 80s, it seemed like he was trying to pick it up a little bit. He sounded more like Shaggy. Well, and think about the medium changing too and the expectations of the audience, right?

For sure. They don't want that. Exactly. So he was older, but trying to sound younger, it was fascinating. I told you I can't come out of an up-tempo song and talk about a dead dog.

That's right. Good job. Thank you. There you go. Love that. Stay Shakespeare sister. There you go. Okay, well done.

This is the big moment because Rob Prues has a bit of a mind blow but it's only a mind blow for those who don't know but I just assume like everybody knows okay

because once we find out the title of your fucking three songs oh that's why you played it last it's obvious yeah I'm saving this for last

because there must be there might be someone out there I'm looking at you Levi Fumka somebody out there doesn't know what's coming

and I do and everybody else does, but not everybody. You ready, Rob? I'm ready. Watch that waveform. What is this sound, Rob? What's happening? Are we going to space? Wow.

It's happening, people. More than just spoons. Cynhyrchu'r ffordd y byddwn i'n ei wneud. There was a time I wore a different face I stood alone Even had no place I've given it all Taken nothing back You brought this lonely heart Back in from the cold

Just like a fire Higher Higher Like my heart on the string But now I know Love changes everything I don't need money Rob, who the hell is this?

I never heard of this band. It's Honeymoon Suite from Niagara Falls. Wow. Opportunity knocks. Nice. Wow. Love Changes Everything by Honeymoon Sweet and what do you know about it Rob Pruse?

So maybe it's the first Toast song chosen where you have the composer in the room Yeah for sure I co-wrote the song That's probably true That is true

Oh no that's not true You probably have others I'm sure we Stu Stone has kicked out some of his raps I'm sure Oh yeah I co-wrote the song

with Johnny Deary and all this Yeah Okay Sorry Rob That's alright Stu beats you once again Of course The original Toast team Oh, yeah. I co-wrote the song with Johnny Deary. Rolling your sagging and all this? Yeah. Okay. Sorry, Rob. That's all right. Stu beats you once again. Of course.

The original Toast team. So this is Racing After Midnight. Yep. Is this the only album you're on? Yes. The first song I recorded with the band was the theme from the movie Lethal Weapon. Of course. Which ended up on this album as well.

Right. And we did a Christmas song. We did a cover of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, I believe in Father Christmas. Oh, I believe in Father Christmas. Which is not like a Warner Brothers thing, but this is the only full album I did with the band. And you're a co-writer of this song. Yeah.

So what do you contribute to this? Well, we were writing together. So Johnny and Derry and I were holed up in a rehearsal room for months writing. Which I can't even, I'm looking at the cover right now. Look at you. The hair. Look at that. I was 21.

Look at this. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there you are. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, Rob Look at that. I was 21. Look at this. Yeah, yeah. Oh, there you are. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, Rob, you used to be good looking. Liza's right. It was a long time ago. I know.

You might have been my first crush. Age is no friend to the wicked. You're beautiful. But we did a good video for this song as well. Stop it. This was the first single for the album, which came out. Yeah, CFTR loved this song. So this year, this is 89?

88. 88. Yep. So I'm a CFTR guy in 88. Okay year, this is 89? 88. So I'm a CFTR guy in 88 and absolutely playing the hell out of it. And this is because this was the first single that we released. We did a big video for it. We filmed it in LA. Yeah, the video was on MuchMusicALot too. It is also the only Honeymoon Suite album to feature Spoon's keyboardist, Rob.

I know, it's right there. Who the hell edited Wikipedia to do that? I don't know. Double Platinum. I know. Double platinum. I know. Wow. Is that Andre Agassi on the cover? Times five, right?

Yeah. So for me, this song became so obvious as far as choosing a song with a title. Sure. Because the first song you played, Climby Fisher, came out literally the summer that we were releasing our song as well. Can I, I don't want to spoil the party here, but I just want to say that according to the listing on Spotify, Love Changes Everything by

Climby Fisher is a parenthetical song. It's Love Changes... You guys suck at this. Look at this. We should leave now. You're right. You know what, I'm fucking pissed. You're right. It's the pre-episodes. You know what? I'm fucking pissed. You know why I'm pissed?

You should be catching it, sir. Well, I don't know. No, we catch it live. That's how we roll. We are live. I said to you many times. I said, three songs you love. Just make sure that the three songs have identical titles.

That was your only fucking job. Technically identical, isn't it? The parenthetical stuff gets me. 1236 wants me to ask you about a Sheena Easton album. Oh, yes. Thank you, Mark. He doesn't think you've ever discussed your role on a Sheena Easton album.

I played on one album. Because Nile Rodgers was producing an album for her. I'm sure you worked with Nile Rodgers. He's joking. He knows. Get the fuck out of here. Nile asked me to do a music video with him in New York. And so I, you know,

no, no, in the eighties, apparently that's what I heard. So I was in New York. He is very chic. And I was doing this video and he had just started recording the Sheen Easton album. And he's like,

and so we were, we spent a weekend making this video and he's like, why don't you just come by the studio? You can play on a couple of songs. I was like, sure. So I met Sheena Eastman album and he's like and so we spent a weekend making this video and he's like why don't you just come by the studio you can play on a couple songs I was like sure so I met Sheena in the studio

we were recording at this studio called Skyline Studios which was Niall's studio and I played on two songs on this album and it was like her single was called

Do It For Love which was like a low top 40 song it made it to her greatest hits album but it wasn't a huge hit for her but I played on it.

So it was cool. Very cool. Yep. That's my Sheena. And you can, yeah, you can tell that story forever. You can,

it's a great story. When you say you played on it, did Niall, was it all ready to go? So how does that work? So when I got to the studio, Niall, basically what he was trying to do with Sheena was,

was record her voice and then like lay the, lay the music around her voice to kind of build it up around her. So when I came into the studio, he had a guitar part already recorded and he had like a rough guide vocal of her. So she did a vocal track and then I played like synthesizer bass and I played some other keyboard parts. So basically the whole song is just drum machine,

Niall and me and Sheena. Wow. It was really cool. So I get to like build up the song with him. Yeah. That was really cool. That's really cool. So I'm the only one who actually kicked out three songs that have the same title

because I kicked out Velvet, Underground's Sunday Morning and then I kicked out No Doubts Sunday Morning and I'm going to close with this Sunday Morning.

Oh, see I was going to go Maroon 5. Maroon 5 sucks. You got to love this song, Bob. I do love this song. Every day is Saturday night but I can't wait

for Sunday morning. Sunday morning. It's the same thing, back in the cold People know, people come and go, it bores me Same thing, seems like a trap to the world But it's a certain face of time Time waits on no man So when people fall like me Every day is Saturday night, but I can't wait for Sunday morning

Sunday morning Sunday morning. Every day is Saturday night, but I can't wait for Sunday morning. Sunday morning. Walking down blocks. I love it, man. I love Chaos. It's amazing.

Yeah, it's great, right? Kevin Brereton is Chaos' real name, and this is from the 2007 album Atlantis, Hymns for Disco. Right, it's not on the other one. Yeah, it was the first thing they did. But it was a big Canadian hit for him. Like, Much Music hit number five on the Much Music Countdown. Do you guys remember the Much Music Countdown?

Those were the good old days, right? Oh, I'm feeling nostalgic for the Much Music Countdown. Do you guys remember the Much Music Countdown? Those were the good old days, right? Oh, I'm feeling nostalgic for the Much Music Countdown here. They actually, Chaos got to perform this on The Late Show in 2007. Big deal for him. The song peaked at number 19 on the Canadian Singles Chart. What year was that? So the song comes out in late. Late Show with Conan O'Brien, right?

Yeah, Conan's. Wow. So September 06 is when the single comes out, and then the album comes out in 07. Wow. Oh, okay. He actually won a Much Music Video Award for this single. That's amazing.

You've tried to get Kevin on, haven't you? I've tried a couple of times. He just seems a little, I don't know, I won't even finish the times. He just seems a little... I don't know. I won't even finish the sentence. He's crazy. No, I'll say it. I've met him. You've met him, right? I've met him several times. I've only had correspondence with him. And I like him very, very

much. He came in one time when I was the music director of Virgin Radio. He was... 2015. So he's pushing it's 2015 so he's pushing a new album and he comes in

and he's going to perform for us so I'm in Lisa Grossi who is the head of all music for Bell now Lisa Grossi

is the music director for Chum I'm the music director for Virgin there's a bunch of us around and he comes in and he's going to perform for us live

it's 9 o'clock in the morning but he's going to perform for us live. It's 9 o'clock in the morning, but he's not going on until he gets a beer. Really? At 9 o'clock in the morning. Humble and Fred tell the same story about the headstones. Really? Hugh Dillon, but that was Christmas morning. That was in a bar at least. It was in the horseshoe.

But he wouldn't go on unless he got either some beer or weed. We got him a beer. They cracked open one of those fridges. So you guys got him a beer. So that morning, so he comes in and I'll say it, he doesn't work there anymore. Mike Bendixon is the program director for News Talk 1010 CFRB. And he's got a beer fridge in his office. So we go up to his office, grab a beer, get him a beer.

Wow. And he performs for us. And I have it somewhere. I don't know. Maybe on one of my phones, I had it. I think I have it backed up somewhere. He performed for us with his guitar. He ended up covering Radiohead's Creep for us.

And he did an amazing job. He's such a talented guy. But he is really, really a complicated fellow. He's very complex. Let me say that. Well, that might explain why he has not yet made his Toronto Mike debut. Yeah, I've met him at a couple different events

and different things. But talented mofo. Oh my God, so talented. And I saw him at... And that rock-rap hybrid. Yes. But yeah, I wouldn't even say

the rock-rap hybrid because you get lumped into that early 2000s, you know, that metal, new metal sound, which I don't think, he's not that new metal sound. He's definitely much more hip hop based. Linkin Park, you mean?

Like, what do you? I mean, I don't mind Linkin Park. I like Linkin Park. But I don't think he's, I don't think he's Korn. You know, I don't think he's, you know, and they're fine anyway, so. Okay, so I might've misspoke. I'm not sure this song actually did win

a Much Music Video Award, but he did win a MuchMusic Video Award. And when he was at the MuchMusic Video Awards, he was noticed by NBA player, former Raptor, by the way, John Sally. And you ready for this? John Sally becomes his manager and Chaos ends up living with John Sally. Did you know that?

I did not know that. And here's another mind blow. This is a mind blow. Chaos was invited to contribute to the Rascals single Northern Touch. I knew that. Well, I didn't know that. I'm just educating myself. Maybe others don't know that too.

And that's such a big jam. Iconic. Iconic jam. But Chaos turned it down. He said he had other commitments and he didn't do it. Come on, Chaos. Iconic jam, but Chaos turned it down. He said he had other commitments, and he didn't do it. Come on, Chaos. I will shout out. So I have a biking mix that just fuels my ride sometimes.

And on that mix is Heaven Only Knows by Chaos. And when Heaven Only Knows comes on, I'm fucking flying on my bike. I can't explain the effect that song has on me. That could have been one. We could do Heaven Only Knows with Beach Boys as well. That's God Only Knows. God Only Knows, right. There's a Donna Summer song

called Heaven Knows. Yes, that's right. Heaven Knows. You need three. No parentheses. You're both disqualified. I win by default. I actually am closing

with something. I was actually playing this earlier and I was literally teary-eyed when I played it earlier so I think I'll be okay here now, but my like beautiful, smart,

amazing older daughter, all my daughters are beautiful and smart, but my wonderful daughter, Michelle is turning 19 in July. She's amazing. She's going to be in year two at McGill. Just an amazing woman. I'm so proud of her.

I could cry just thinking about her. So she's's turning 19. When she was three years old, she loved Chaos' Sunday Morning. I actually recorded her one day. We're going back now, 16 years or so. She's going to love you playing this.

Well, here we go. At a day and night, I carry Sunday morning. At a day and night, I carry Sunday morning. At a day and night, I carry Sunday morning. Sunday morning. There you go. And I put it on YouTube. And at the time, I heard from somebody in the chaos camp wrote me an email to say that he had heard it on a bus like I guess they were going

on a tour and he heard it on a bus and that they loved it so I got like feedback and I remember telling my daughter Michelle that I had word that chaos had seen it on YouTube and enjoyed it and that was kind of a neat little moment there.

That's beautiful. The world seemed rather small there. So thank you, Chaos. Thank you, Michelle. I love you very much. And guys. Here we are. That was fucking awesome.

Here we are. That was awesome. It was amazing. You're amazing, Rob Pruse. Toast. We are toasted. What toast episode was this? Do you remember?

This was episode 17 of Toast. Wow. So this was kind of, technically, this was the May episode. So we actually will discuss later, but I think we need to do a, like later,

we need to do a June episode. Yep. Yeah. Rob, when are you in town again? I'll be back around, actually the end of the month into early July, I'll be around,

and I'll be around a couple times in July. But maybe we time, like my birthday's coming up at the end of June. Maybe we do some kind of a toast thing at the end of the month. We'll be around a couple times in July. But maybe we time, like my birthday's coming up at the end of June. Maybe we do some kind of a toast thing at the end of the month. We'll toast to that.

Bob, you went to the motherland? Japan. That was the Kish line. I did not. So your mom, your wife. My wife did. Not your mom.

Okay. Did your mom go with your wife? No. What the hell am I talking about? Thank you, Rob Pruce. Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you, Bob Lillet.

Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thanks, Rob. It was fun. And thanks for cheating on me, you two sons of bitches. We had a good time. Can't believe you did a podcast about me.

It happens. And it was the best one you've ever done. You don't need me at all anymore. And that brings us to the end of our 1,270th show. Thanks for everybody who joined us at live.torontomike.com. I see Steve Leggett is there telling us that Lisa Loeb's song is a parentheses jam,

and I let Steven know that we've already given Bob a hard time about that. So is your crimey fisher. Damn it. Yeah, so I win. I'm the only one who got the instructions right. We got the words, just we kept out the brackets. You can follow me on Twitter.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Bob, you're at Bob Willett. At Twitter, yep. Rob Pruce, you're at Rob Pruce X. Yeah. Don't forget the X. It's important. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery.

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And Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH. This is very exciting because we're recording this on a Friday night. Saturday evening, no, Sunday evening, so in two days, the following three people will be in the basement to regale me with nostalgic

stories of Blue Jays past. Bob Elliott, Dave Perkins, and Larry Milson. I think they have a combined 150 years of like, is that possible? I don't know.

Since 77 so maybe it's not possible yet but those guys have the stories. You won't believe it. We'll talk about the Drive of 85. We'll talk about the World Series. We'll talk about everything. All three. I will shut the heck up and just let them talk. Amazing. See you all

then. Struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar Just the best that I can Maybe I'm not And maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything Is coming up Rosy and gray

Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and gray

Well I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain