Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - TOAST 19: Toronto Mike'd #1306

Episode Date: August 14, 2023

In this 19th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out flower jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Pumpkins After Dark, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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and Rivley Funeral Home Pillars of the community since 1921 Joining me today for this 19th episode of Toast is Rob Pruse and Bob Ouellette. Welcome back, Rob and Bob. Thank you.

Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. That's so low-key, Rob. You were so hyped before the recording and then I get this low-key. I turn on the low-key. It's good to see you again, Mike. How have you been? It's good. All of a sudden we're on an NPR show. Welcome back to episode number 1300. I mentioned

Stu Stone returns Friday. What do you think are the chances? Do you think Stu Stone has ever heard an episode of Toast without him on it? If he knows what's good for him, he wouldn't leave people. So let's do an over-under. How many episodes? I'm going to put it at one. I'll take the under. Yeah, I'll take the under too. Really? Yeah, Stu's how many episodes. And I'm going to put it at one. I'll take the under.

Yeah, I'll take the under two. Yeah, Stu's a busy man. Yeah, that's true. And he's also, you know, if it's not about him, what not? So Stu has been on Bob's Basement, right? Nope. How did that not happen? Because Rob Proust has been on Bob's Basement. Oh, wait, no, it did happen.

Oh. No, it didn't. No, no. I can tell you everyone who's been on Toronto Mike and you can't remember who's been on Bob's Beach. No, I remember because we had such a bad connection. Like not personally. Like you didn't get along? Yeah, exactly.

It was just as awkward the whole time. No, there was a bad Wi-Fi connection and it's not one of my highlight episodes. Only because of that I found it very distracting. Did you consider not dropping it and just waiting until you could do it again? Because Stu would do that again. At that time I was doing a pretty good pace of doing like one or two a week. Oh, wow.

That's a lot. Yeah, what happened? Kids, life, jobs, you know, that kind of stuff. But okay, we won't name the guests because I hear it's top secret, but you do have like... Oh, I'll tell it now. Oh, I didn't know. I thought maybe you had an embargo. No, I just, I have an embargo until I can put the week of the album comes out that I

can play it. Okay. Tell us this massive, I'll just tease it right now and then you're going to tell us. You have a massive 90s alt-rock superstar on Bob's Basement. Who is it, Bob? Richard Patrick of Filter. Former guitarist for

Nine Inch Nails. Kind of cool. Brother of the Robert Patrick. Robert Patrick, who was T-1000. And was in the X-Files when Fox Mulder was gone. That's right. You've done the episode already

or it's coming out? It's already done. I've already recorded it. Is it good? Yeah, it is good. We had some technical difficulties at the very beginning as well. I was using Teams and his mic wouldn't work with it. Anyhow, long story short, we ended up on Zoom and he was wonderful.

Amazing. We went through and we talked about his sobriety. We talked about his being very vocal about when Scott Weiland died because he was really trying to protect Scott. Wow.

And we talked, obviously, about take a picture. Don't give away. No, it's just, it's really good. He's teasing it. Yeah. He's teasing it. Yeah, like him,

listening to him. And okay, here's the big thing. He sang for me. Oh, no. As well, yeah. Okay, I'm jealous now. It was fine. It was really was really great speaking of sobriety let's crack open our beers on the mic here okay so are we gonna do it all at once so what do you prefer it's your it's your basement maybe we do all together so you guys have loggers yeah what do you got there and i've got a sunny side ipa

and hold on here and at the count three two one and we're gonna go okay three two one that's a good one so i heard all three individually at the same time that was cool listen your headphones are in dolby cheers cheers to you guys cheers cheers it's good to have you back for the 19th toast do you guys have any idea how many toasts have been you guys versus seven i think seven or eight it's only the seven you don't know you made that up that up. I just made that up. I thought you knew. You sounded so confident. I did. I know.

I thought seven sounded right. I was like, yeah, you absolutely. It could be. You could, yeah. So, Rob, you've... Okay, Bob, you've just got to get my Robs and Bobs straight. Okay, so Bob Ouellette has just teased an exciting episode of Bob's Basement. Is this your first episode since Loretta Swift? It really is.

No, it's not. I did one. Oh, no. See you guys. Have a good night. I think it was me. I think it was me. I think it was you. He remembers all his guests.

It was. It was Loretta Swift and you. Yeah. Oh, my God. Rob. No, it's fine. That's amazing. No, it's good.

It's amazing. I remember. No, it was a great one. It was so much fun. I didn't know how many episodes you actually do. And when you're like, we should do one because you had like, we had the time. Yeah. I was 75 episodes gone.

It was Loretta and then me. And then you. And now the dude from. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Come on. Now the guy from Filter. And coming soon. I don't knowta and then me. And then you. And now the dude from... Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Come on. Now the guy from Filter. And coming soon,

I don't know his name off the top of my head, but the bassist from Moist, I think, is going to come on. Exciting. Jeff Beers. Yes. I know Jeff. Yeah.

Oh, okay. Jeff, I moved into his apartment up near Spadina and Bloor 20 years ago when I was doing... Jeff lives in Kingston still and listens to 96.3 Big FM. I've done music with Jeff. That's amazing.

Okay, cool. Love it. What a small world. Can you name this tune? Bob Willett, can you name this tune? Can you turn it up? It's kind of a funky version.

It sounds a little bit like Rocket. It does. But the same era. Whose production is this? Now I know. I know. Rob, who's the producer of this jam? Niall Rogers.

Wow. That's why it sounds so bad. But I think this version is one that Gordon and I went back in the studio and remixed ourselves. We did some re-editing and stuff. We re-jigged it. So it was Niall's production, and then we sort of made an extra video kind of version as well. It's pretty cool, though. Tell no lies. it was Niles production and then we sort of made an extra video kind of version as well. It's pretty cool though.

Tell no lies. Okay, so I take for granted that everyone hearing us right now knows who you guys are. So we have to do a little like, just a little like

baseline here with like, tell us Bob Ouellette, what exactly would you say you do for a living? What's going on in your life? What's funny you say this,

we say this all the time in radio is like, assume the audience doesn't know and always tell. So, I, here's the first thing,

I'm the last producer of the Humble and Fred show on traditional radio. Terrestrial. Terrestrial radio. technically, I don't know this show, only because

Funny 820 was broadcasting live, right? Yeah, I guess you're right. But it was just a, it was a simulcast, right? Yeah, I guess you're right. But it was a simulcast, right? It was on the radio, and they recorded it for the podcast. I thought I was the one that put the final nail in the coffin for them.

You're the FM, though. You're the final. Yeah, final FM. Yeah, there you go. I'm a radio programmer. I am the East End version of Toronto Mike. I am Toronto Bob. Bob, better dresser.

Radio guy. And yeah, love music. And yeah, I don't know. How many stations do you program? I am the program manager for two radio stations in the Chorus Radio Network in Kingston, Ontario. 104.3 Fresh Radio and 96.3 Big FM. And last year I was named the program director of the year

did you know that Rob? in Canada did you know you were in the presence of greatness every month? I've suspected it I could feel it without knowing the details

what did you get? a plaque? what did you get? nothing yet I don't know like a certificate? yeah a PDF

PDF for myself exactly okay Rob we're playing a song by The Spoons a Burlington band that was extremely popular in the 1980s. Yeah. Still sounds great in my headphones.

Did you have anything to do with their success? What was your role in The Spoons? I played keyboards in the band. During their glory days. Yeah, during the glory days, 1980 to 1985. There were glory days after that that I wasn't a part of, but I was in some good Glory Days. So yeah, I played keyboards, co-wrote some songs.

Then I joined another band called Honeymoon Suite. I was with them for a few years. We made a couple of records with them, did some good tours and things. And then I started working in musical theater in Toronto, Phantom of the Opera, Miss Saigon, Beauty and the Beast, Tommy, Blood Brothers, Wizard of Oz, Starlight Express. I can't get them all.

Music of Angeloid Weber. And then I moved to New York and worked on Broadway on Mamma Mia and did some other shows. And am I supposed to be telling all this information? No, it's not. It's nice. And then 40 years have gone by. I can't believe you're here. We are in the presence.

No wonder Liza Fromer had a big crush on you. Most importantly, I taught Rami Malek to play Bohemian Rhapsody on the piano. So that's your true claim to fame. It's really not though for the movie. You knew the people who put the movie together and they said, hey.

I got asked, I was his piano coach for two days before he went to London to start filming. Did you get an Oscar? I have a, it's indirectly.

He didn't thank me on the show. He said, I'd like to thank everybody who, whatever he said. But actually, you're not everybody I got a credit like my name is in the film oh yeah what's your credit

piano coach piano coach yeah there's me and like five other people because there were people on the set with him but I was the first one to take him in a room

and say this is what you're going to need to do believe me Freddie Mercury did this yeah and I had to show him so you now did you have to

study Freddie first oh I did yeah you would have since I was 11 years him. So you, now did you have to study Freddie first? Oh, I did. Yeah, you would have. Since I was 11 years old. Oh, okay. You knew exactly how he played? Oh yeah, I knew everything.

I saw Queen when I was 11 at Maple Leaf Gardens. Amazing. And so Freddie was one of my big heroes. So it felt like one of those opportunities where I was like,

I am born to do this. Yeah. I'm born to help Rami Malek. That's amazing. All he needs is the teeth. That's right. He needed the big choppers, you know, the teeth. The overbite. Yeah, my mom saw the movie. She's amazing. All he needs is the teeth. That's right. He needed the big choppers, you know,

the teeth. The overbite. Yeah, my mom saw the movie. She's like, I didn't like, his teeth made me uncomfortable. I said,

well, his, Freddie's teeth were like that naturally, but yeah, I guess Rami's were. A little, yeah, a little over the top.

Yeah. A little over, overbite. Over, over the top. Mr. Rob Prues, former keyboardist for The Spoons, would you mind promoting the big event

at the El Macombo on August 26th? August 26th, two weeks from yesterday, I will big event at the elma combo on uh august 26 august 26 two weeks from yesterday i will be playing at the elma combo with some friends of mine i can announce a couple of friends too there's an fotm couple of fotms joining i guess yeah sandy horn yes former bass player no she's bass player for the spoons yeah when i was in the mansion can you guess the other fotm okay there's two other FOTMs. Is one of them... I don't know the other one. The Sandy was kind of obvious to me, but can you give us a clue? He's...

He's a male. He's an artist. He does music and he does... Robert Priest. Nope. Music and painting are his... Kurt Swinghammer. You got it. Wow. Yeah, Kurt's going to come do a few songs. He's a cool cat. He's a super cool cat.

I'm very excited. Wow. Okay. And another FOTM... Because I'm actually out of town. I would totally be there. I'm driving my daughter

to McGill that day. That's nice. Brittle Star's going to be there. That's an FOTM. Yeah, he's an FOTM. I've got a great friend from Toronto named

Tim Posgate who's a guitar player who's going to be with me. A childhood friend who's a fantastic singer named Jim Witter, who was a country singer in the 90s, was nominated for Juno Awards and stuff. Coming to sing a bunch of songs.

I have an original cast member from Phantom of the Opera. Gretchen Helbig is going to come and join me. Richard Birch is a singer who did my Moonshine shows as well. He's ridiculously cool. Can you shout out the man, the gentleman who passed away since our last recording who was, was he

an owner of the Moonshine Cafe? He was the founder and the owner. John Marlett was his name. Okay, shout him out because when I was there to see you, he barbecued me a sausage. John was the most amazing guy. He and his wife started the place like 17 years ago or something.

And he looked so healthy barbecuing my sausage. He was a little rocker. And that was earlier this year. Yep. It was in February. Yep. I can't, I don't like it when,

I had to say, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. I don't like it when, because I'm, shout out in FOTM who I talked to last September who just passed away, but I don't like it

when people, you meet people and they seem vibrant and alive and then they die. Like, what's that about? It's weird.

Like one day, what's worth suddenly or long and painful? like look a little like pale and sickly and then i could be like oh yeah i could see that guy but it's always a weird shock i mean it's even when it's celebrities who we don't all of a sudden it's like oh my god i didn't even know his name i just know he was a gent he seemed like a gentleman he was fantastic he was the nicest guy and i mean i'm so glad i even got to meet him because I first spoke to him like five years ago when I was first thinking about doing a solo show and he wanted to book me right away.

He was all excited about it. And then years, COVID went by and everything else. Well, because you were in Honeymoon Suite. Yeah, no, that's not why. I don't know. He was just really open to like me doing whatever, you know? So I'm very grateful that I got to meet him and do some work with him and know him.

And the community loved him so much and the club is going on Moonshine when we first heard that he passed away we were like what's going to happen to Moonshine because he literally sat in the back and took the phone calls and the reservations and seated people and cooked the hot dogs and the burgers and did everything right Neil Jays is at live.torontomike.com

and Neil says he looked so healthy when he was barbecuing my sausage. He wants to add that to the Toronto Mic bingo cards. But he did. I know.

Damn it. I hate it. Okay. But it's a weird shock when anybody passes away because, you know, like, of course, when celebrities

and all of a sudden, like, the news passes and like, oh my God, Pee Wee Herman died. Can we talk about this? Should we talk about, well, the other musical one? Well, yeah,

we're going to get that. So, guys, I'm loaded up with a few deaths I want to just discuss with you guys because they're all music, kind of music related.

This guy. I just would like to ask you if you guys saw the movie Back to the Beach. Do you guys remember the movie Back to the Beach? I don't know. Frankie Avalon.

Yeah, from the 60s. But then they had like, okay, so this was like a late 80s movie. Right, a remake of it.

A version. It was like a reboot or whatever. They were like parents. Yeah. One of the kids was like, Laura Laughlin or whatever from Full House. Okay.

Anyway, so there was a lot of cameos and I watched this movie in a theater, okay? Yeah. Because Siskel and Ebert told me it was good.

So this is true story. Siskel and Ebert said it was great and I would like it and then I went to the theater and I fucking loved it because there was like cameos from like, Leave it to Beaver cast members. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

But also Gilligan's Island cast members, like Gilligan's in there and the- Alan Hale, the skipper. Alan Hale, right. And- Or Alan Hale Jr. And-

I don't know who Alan Hale was. Yeah, he is Jr. He- I can't believe he's dead too. Everybody's fucking dying. We're going to spend the next half an hour talking about people dying. Alan Hale would be like 100 if he was alive. I don't know he's dead too. Everybody's fucking dying. We're going to spend the next half an hour talking about people dying. Al Hale would be like 100 if he was alive.

I don't know. I feel like he died young. I mean like 60 or something like that. Al Hale Junior or Al Hale Junior? Whoever the fucking Skipper was. Skipper. Skipper. So.

Go look at little buddy. Pee Wee Herman shows up in this fucking thing. I'm watching back. I loved Pee Wee. I already was a big fan because I loved Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Yes. Like just loved it to pieces. Pee-Wee shows up and then this happens.

So let's listen to this and then we'll go around the table talking about Pee-Wee. Bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, bird, that the bird is a bird. Well, of course, of course, of course, of course. Well, of course, of course, of course. Serpent bird. Oh! Ha, ha, ha. Yeah, so he gets, like, he just does this song. Yeah. So he performs this song in Back to the Beach, and it was wild. Yep.

Fucking love this guy. I love Pee-wee's Big Adventure. Big Top Pee-wee wasn't so good, but Pee-wee's Big Adventure was so amazing, and I loved Pee-wee's Playhouse. Like, it was must-view TV. What did you guys think of Pee-wee wasn't so good, but Peewee's Big Adventure was so amazing, and I loved Peewee's Playhouse. It was must-view TV. What did you guys think of Peewee Herman? Loved him. Yeah, I mean, I've heard nothing but great things about him. Even before he died, Conan O'Brien goes on about how

great Paul Rubens is as a human being. He tells a story. He told a story even before Paul Rubens had passed away. He had Paul Rubens on the podcast on Conan O'Brien. He's a friend. He talks about how when it's your birthday, if you're a friend of Paul Rubens on the podcast on Colonel Brian. He's a friend. Talks about how when it's your birthday, if you're a friend of Paul Rubens, he just spends the whole day sending you birthday memes all day to your email box.

All day. Like he goes, it's amazing because he's just thinking about you doing it. And then let's not forget. I think my favorite Paul Rubens role was on 30 Rock. He was on 30 Rock and he was the prince that Jenna was going to marry. Oh, my God. It's just. And he's like all frail and stuff. He was terrific.

And Pee Wee's Playhouse was so revolutionary. And groundbreaking. And it's crazy to think that Pee Wee's Big Adventure sort of was the jumping board for him into the popular culture that he had done his stuff in L.A. first. Like as a stage show. Yeah, the stage show. And to me, like I think about it now and think that that era, like the early 80s, let's as a stage show and all that, right? Yeah, the stage show, yeah. And to me, I think about it now and think that that era, like the early 80s, let's say.

Well, he was a groundling, right? Yeah. Is that what he was? Phil Hartman was there. But his persona is like Andy Kaufman in a way, where they live in this person. Yeah, it's a character, and they just go with it so much

that you're like, is this for real or what's the story? I think it was just such a cool thing that he did. Fucking love Pee Wee and his death came out of nowhere for us because we didn't know he was sick.

No, nobody did. It's what's with these comedians. Norm Macdonald did the same thing. Didn't tell anybody. Neil Peart did this too though. Yeah. Where it's like, yeah, they're battling this illness

and the family knows but they don't disclose it to the public. And for six years apparently. Yeah. Like I was going on YouTube and looking back and even like three years ago

there were these really cool like Comic, Comic-Con kind of things where he was doing these interviews for the 30th anniversary of Pee-Wee for The Big Adventure. Yes. And I just thought, he is so interesting to hear him talk, like, as a real person. Yeah. You know?

Okay, so the death of Pee-Wee Herman, I'm going to tie it to another significant death that Bob was alluding to earlier. Yeah. So we'll just listen for a moment. This wasn't the musical one I was talking about, but yeah. Oh yeah. Well, I have lots of deaths to discuss. Because it struck me how both Pee Wee Herman and, uh,

and, uh, and, uh, Sinead O'Connor seem to be sort of like, I don't want to use the word canceled, but they were like forced to take these timeouts in pop culture due to their like actions. Like Sinead O'Connor rips up a picture of the Pope on Saturday night live. Yeah. Pee Wee Herman gets arrested in a, uh,

porno theater. Right. And then I think Pee Wee sort of skipped the 90s. I feel like he was everywhere, and then he took the 90s off before his comeback because of what happened to him in the porno theater. But these are two artists, loved them both, but it just seems to me there's a parallel there

with terms of public cancellation due to actions that I would not deem embarrassing or shameful or I just think they got kind of fucked by society in that regard.

Sinead, I think I would say a little bit less because I think that people who didn't really care as much like from a religious perspective let's say

about her actions on SNL were like, well, that's a bold move to make but okay, you do you because we know that there's political shit We're like, well, that's a bold move to make, but okay, you do you, because we know that there's political shit that goes on and religious stuff that's going on.

She's making a statement and I don't know that it harmed her career that much, but for a certain segment of the population, I guess it, weren't they booing her at the, uh, what was it? The Bob Dylan anniversary,

uh, concert. That's because of the Pope thing, right? Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. No,

Chris Christopherson comes out and gives her the hug. Yeah, I think you're both kind of right. What she did was to a certain crowd deplorable. Yes. And I think she was on

a trajectory to be a bigger star until that moment. That being said, I don't know if she would have wanted it. It's almost like she pumped the brakes on her own success by doing that. Oh, for sure she did. And she would give that up for her political stance. It was more important

to her. Look, I am not cool enough to know Sinead before this song. I wasn't that guy. But I wanted to ask you, did you ever cross paths with her at all? No. I mean, not in real life, but just knew that first album when it came out. Do Not Want When I Have Not Got or The Emperor's New Clothes,

which was the... The album's called They Do Not Want When I Haven't Got, and this is the first single, and then Emperor's New Clothes is the second single, but there's an album before this, right? Troy with the Amandingo was a big jam. I didn't know those at all. she got the Grammy this is when I learned she existed was she got a Grammy nomination

and this was like oh so I was familiar with her and then this is the song that makes her a worldwide star the video was just her face I think knowing once she passed away I remember a few years ago do you remember the controversy with her a few years ago

where she was like in the states somewhere in a hotel and she was on a suicide watch I think it was after her son passed away I remember a few years ago do you remember the controversy with her a few years ago where she was like in the States somewhere in a hotel and she was on a suicide watch I think it was after her son passed away and it's something to do with that and people were like

oh my god Sinead O'Connor and she's like they're trying to find her and people have expected her to end up like suicidal at that point so that was already like a sad thing

so that's why this as a shock made me flash back to like those years ago and think oh this seemed So that was already like a sad thing. So that's why this as a shock made me flash back to like those years ago and think, oh, this seemed like it was already like... This could have happened

10 years ago. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah. You don't even know the support system somebody has around them at that level.

It may be a lot, maybe it's none. Yeah. She was sick for a long time, I think. Great loss. A couple of like Gen X icons here that we're talking about. I know what musician you're referring to, Bob,

but I need to share something with you. There are certain songs that stand alone or objectively great, like this cover of the Prince song and Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana. These songs that are just great songs, but my brain has been rewired, so when I hear the songs, I hear them as part of

a girl talk mashup. And this is one of those songs. So I decided to pull the part of a song called play your part by girl talk, which I've heard a million times. That is what I hear now when I hear nothing compares to you. Okay. You ready? Yep. We'll be right back. She thought I was back then. I grabbed my keys. Oh, I gotta go. Got my motorcycle jacket and my motorcycle low.

Cause nothing compares to your bad hand. Nothing compares to your bad hand. I was getting some hate. Getting, getting some hate. I was getting some hate. Getting, getting some hate. I'll bring her down to tell you that when I hear Nothing Compares You, which is a beautiful song,

and there's no version like Sinead O'Connor's version, I will literally, even if the kids are around, I will start saying, I was getting some head. Getting some head. I can't help myself. That's rather unfortunate. Yeah, I know. But all these great songs get mashed up by

Girl Talk. How much do you listen to Girl Talk? I spent, I would say like 09, maybe 2010 i spent an incredible number of hours listening to my three favorite girl talk album wow like just while i worked at my cubicle just playing it yeah and that's one of that's from one of the big girl talk albums i loved and that was a big jam it's great if you have adhd because you never hear a full song which i might have bob I might fucking have, Bob. I might fucking have it.

Who knows? But it really worked for me and it's all like tattooed in my cranium here. So sorry to say we lost Sinead O'Connor and Pee Wee Herman. Just to bring it closer

to home because here we are in Canada here. I'm here to shout out the 19, I think it was in 1987 solo debut of Robbie Robertson with some jams that I still love. I loved it when it came out and I love it now. And this is one.

We lost Robbie Robertson. Yeah. Did you ever meet Robbie Robertson, Rob Prues? I don't think so. Like, how do you not know? Because sometimes like at award shows. You get a Junos or something. Wouldn't you not know? Because sometimes at award shows... Wouldn't you have crossed paths with him? 87, you're in Honeymoon Suite.

And he releases this album. You guys had to have been in the same building. It's impossible. Did you actually have an exchange with the man? No, definitely did not. No. You would remember that. Nope. But I did love this album though. I like this this album was like a defining moment

in the sound of the 80s but it sort of led from what peter gabriel had been doing as well because it was dan lenoir right producing as well but yeah exactly daniel uh lenoir and uh great album and a great loss uh you know i kind of don't know if I knew that he never sang for, like the band. I know all the hits or whatever. Like, I don't know if I ever listened to full albums or whatever. Like,

I loved the weight, particularly the version with the staple. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the big ones.

The night they drove old Dixie down, right? But like, I think it was kind of news to me when I learned, oh, this, this album we're listening to in the background is like the first time Robbie Robertson sings. Yeah. Crazy, right? Crazy River.

This is a great, fucking great song. Yeah, I love it. Jesus. Okay. Anyway, I will say for my money, the wait with the staple singers is the go-to version. That's incredible. Also, watch the

last Waltz. Well, that's what it's from. But you gotta watch the whole version. That's incredible. Also, watch the last Waltz. That's what it's from. You gotta watch the whole thing. Neil Young's in there. That might be considered the greatest concert documentary film of all time. I think you could say that if you want to say Nirvana. Teen Spirit is a great song.

I think you might be right. I think it's kind of universally agreed upon. It might be the best one. Leon Russell too. Oh my gosh. Ridiculous. The late, great, romping Ronnie Hawkins. Yes. Yep. Not to be confused with the other Ronnie Hawkins.

That's right. Shout out to Tobias Vaughn, who's actually watching us from Lisbon. Wow. That guy's a world traveler. He was in Qatar. How do you say it? Qatar. Qatar, I believe.

I still fuck it up, but he was there. You and I saw him at the Canada Honduras match. That's right. We did. Yes. Tobias Vaughn. Right. He just travels the world, this man. What a crazy cat. Okay. So shout out to Levi Fumka, Leslie, always

a great FOTM, Tobias Vaughn. Okay. Should we move on from the dead people? Let's move to introducing today's topic. And the creative way. Flowers on the grave of the topic. Oh, there you go. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Shout out. Absolutely.

Here's a fun thing I did here. Sorry, Robbie, we're bringing you down here because we're going to miss you. In fact, I drink to you now, Robbie Robertson. Cheers to Robbie Robertson. Somewhere down the crazy river. Listen to you too. You want to record something wrong?

We should. I think we should. My people will call your people. I'm going to put this in the background because nobody picked this song, but it was one of the first songs I thought about when I thought about our topic today. Our topic today, flower jams.

That was it, right? We were literally standing in front of your house and I literally looked around and I saw your neighbor's garden and I'm like, what about flowers? And you guys said yes. So there we go. And it was summer, so we thought we should have something summery.

Okay. Does Bob Ouellette know the song we're playing right now? I can't name it. It's probably the only Nirvana song you'll find where Kurt's not singing it. Is this Dave? This is Dave Grohl. The song is called Marigold.

Okay. And what was it? Was this on In Utero? I don't... I think it's a B-side. Definitely not on In Utero. Definitely a B-side. Not on any... None of the big albums.

None of the... Not on In Utero or Nevermind. But this was like your first taste of Dave Grohl as a... Oh, he did know about it. And he sounds so young. Oh, yeah. Oh, he was super young. Wow.

And he's doing all the meat parts. He's like, you know, like he does about it. And he sounds so young. Oh, yeah. Oh, he was super young. Wow. And he's doing all the mute parts. He's like, you know, like he does. Marigold is a flower jam. Marigold is a flower jam. Yeah. Also a character on Polka Dot Door. I was going to say the same thing. It's a puppet.

It's a doll. It's a doll. I think it's just a stuffy. Yeah, that's right. Humpty Dumpty Bear and Marigold. There you go. Look at that. Polka Dot Door is my jam.

Are you fucking kidding me right now? Are you kidding me? Our brains go. Polka Dot Door's my jam. Are you fucking kidding me right now? Are you kidding me? Our brains go to Polka Dot Door from Nirvana. It's the best thing ever. All three of us think the exact same thing. Everybody's like, oh, here they go again. Yeah. Okay, so I have four children, and I went to each of them, and I said, what is your

favorite flower jam? So in order, okay, and I won't play the whole thing because it's at the table here. I said to Sweet Morgan, who's seven years old years old i said what's your favorite flower jam and she she picked post malone's sunflowers i think maybe because it's in the spider-man uh into the spider verse oh yeah but this is a good song right bobby yeah they're playing this on your stations uh Sunflowers, I think maybe because it's in the Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse. But this is a good song, right, Bobby? They play this on your stations? We're not doing that.

No, right now I think we're on Chemical, I think is the single from Posty. Oh, this is a little dusty now. Yeah, yeah. By the way, unrelated, not unrelated, but that movie, the set into the Spider-Verse, it's phenomenal. I have to see it. Do you know what's my favorite Marvel movie? Of all the Marvel movies,'s my favorite The first one

But the second one Have you seen the second one? Not yet It blows the first one out of the water I can't believe that It is one of the most visually stunning films I've ever seen in my life Wow

I felt like I was in a trance watching it But how can it be that much better than a movie I just deemed the greatest Marvel movie ever seen It's going to be 1 and 1A. I'm telling you. The visuals of it. You've got to see a good theater with a good surround sound. That's amazing. Oh my god, it was so good. Fuck, I've got to see that. Okay.

So, Sunflowers, Post Malone. Then I went to the next child whose name is Jarvis. He's 9. And Jarvis. Where you play your game But it's so good I've never known anybody like you But it's so good I've never dreamed of nobody like you And I've heard of a love that comes once in a lifetime

And I'm pretty sure that you are that love of mine Cause I'm in a field of dandelions Wishing on everyone that you would be mine He kicked out this song called Dandelions

by Ruth B. That's really good. It's a great song. Yeah. And I was unfamiliar with this song because I'm a little out of the top 40 loop lately, and I realized it's because I'm never in a car, and that was where I heard it on my top 40.

Ruth B's got some good songs, though. Now that I hear her voice, I recognize it. But then I said to my son, and you guys might laugh at me, but I said, I don't think a dandelion is a flower. That's what I said. Would you guys think of dandelions as flowers?

Yeah. Okay, they are flowers. It's a weed too, right? It's a weed, but it's a flower. So you can be a flower and a weed? It's been flowered, but I didn't think it would be classified as a flower. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I would think dandelions are not a flower. Weeds can flower.

Chives can flower, for goodness sake. Okay, geez. Now you're making me feel bad. Okay. So, thank you, Ruth B. Then I went to Michelle, and I said, and Michelle was worried to be picking this because she said he's anti-Semitic, and I said, well, it's okay to appreciate the song. It doesn't mean you adopt all of his opinions because anti-Semitism is bullshit. But can I please give her these flowers?

The doctor don't want to take procedures. He claimed my heart can't take the anesthesia. It'll send a body into a seizure. The little thing by the hospital bed, it'll stop beeping. Hey, chick, I'm at a loss for words. What do you say at this time? Remember when I was nine? So it's Roses by Kanye West.

Rob Prusk, can you appreciate a song if you know the performer of the song is either homophobic or racist or anti-Semitic or some other hateful, has some other hateful opinion? Well, it matters less to me

about the background as much as to what I'm hearing lyrically in the present moment. Oh, yeah, no, that's for sure. Like, if he's like rhyming off about

fucking going off on like Jewish people. Jerry Seinfeld or something or whatever. It's not an anti-Semitic song. Right. No, no, no. This is a big question. Can you separate the art from the artist?

I can. Yeah. And I can, too, but some people can't. I think most people should be able to. Yes. But to me, I draw the line at the lyrical content of a lot of rap music. Unfortunately, that's me. It's very misogynistic a lot. Kids don't mind as much, but I'm like, I don't line at the lyrical content of a lot of rap music. Unfortunately, that's me. It's very misogynistic.

Kids don't mind as much, but I'm like, I don't want to hear any of it. Okay, let me ask you this, because I was a big NWA fan. Yeah. And they had a song. This is after Ice Cube had left, actually. But To Kill a Hooker. Yeah. Okay.

And it's very graphic telling. So the little known follow-up to Kill a Mockingbird. That's right. Now, I never, I don't know. I never thought about like, I never thought it was a good thing to kill a hooker. I'm not a pro sex worker and I would never harm anybody, let alone a wonderful sex worker. But I thought that, you know, I thought that was just like part of the character of the skit or whatever. And I was okay with that,

but that would not be a Rob Proust jam. No, I mean, you're not going to listen to any songs about killing hookers. No, I can. I always try to appreciate from a musical perspective. People talk about Kanye and like a lot of rappers that I feel like I'm out of the loop because I don't want to be in the loop,

but that's just me personally. Like I can appreciate the craft of the creation of the songs. As a producer, you would, Kanye's insane. personally. I can appreciate the craft of the creation of the songs. As a producer, you would... Kanye's insane. Yeah, I know. My twisted dark fantasy is just...

It's like... It's Sgt. Pepper of hip-hop. The production's so insane. But then he puts his words on top and I'm like, peace out. I just don't care. I totally get that.

And that's just me. But what about... And I've heard this before just to get off a little bit. Separating the art from the artist what about in the world world of comedy what about i can't believe the bill cosby thing yeah well that's that's an obvious but uh even uh dave chapelle has some uh transphobic yeah yeah yeah that's that's actually part of his act i'm in the case of in the case of bill cosby or someone somebody was he did that's not what he

talked about oh yes i've heard these spanish fly bits on the sund Cosby, that's not what he talked about. Oh, yes. I heard the Spanish fly bit on the Sunday Funnies. That's right. Yeah, I know. But generally speaking, he wasn't talking about going out and drugging ladies or whatever he did. But it's hard for us to know now because now we're coloring the present moment with our memories of the past. I know. I think when I was a kid, I loved Bill Cosby.

All I did was, I listened to Bill Cosby records all the time. I listened to Fat Albert. It was all good. If I listen to it now, am I supposed to go, oh, I loved this when I was 11,

but now I know who he is, so now I don't like it. But he's an extreme case. Like to me, there's a big difference between Kanye, who might also be unwell. Like, I mean,

he is mentally ill for sure. It's different. What he's done is different than what Bill Cosby did. Now we're talking about different levels of evil. What's more evil? Being anti-Semitic? If Hitler painted a beautiful picture, I don't want to see that fucking

thing. You know what I mean? He was in art school. And if he got accepted or whatever, maybe he wouldn't have become an evil dictator. Maybe. It's true. Here's another roses. Yeah, okay. So this shout out to my oldest, James, who didn't even hesitate to tell me it's outcast

Roses. He's a big fan. He's a big fan. Saw them once actually with one of the artists that I'm kicking out today. I saw them Yeah, I saw them and it's amazing because Big Boy is still touring but Andre's out. Andre 3000's done with music.

He's a different cat, right? Weird. He's very, yeah, I've done everything I can do. I've seen clips where he's like, I can't do what they're doing now

and I'm done. So the last album where they're like collaborating is Stankonia? I guess so. Think about that. I know. Talk about going out

on your A-game though. That's like Jim Brown, right? Jim Brown, I'm out. Like it's the peak of your powers. He's such a brilliant guy like Jim Brown, right? Jim Brown, I'm out. Like, you're at the peak of your powers. He's such a brilliant guy, like, lyrically. Miss Jackson's on that album, and Bombs Over Baghdad. Holy fuck.

Yep. I think we're going to have a real variety of flower songs. Oh, I think we are. I know my songs are like... The whole show's just my kids kicking out the flowers. We're done. You're not going to let us kick out... I picked three very different songs on purpose.

Mine aren't very different. For fun. Oh, okay. But I also picked ones that I... Like, I think there's ones... to let us kick it. I picked three very different songs on purpose. Mine aren't very fun. But I also picked ones that I think there's ones I won't go through so I won't steal, but there are ones that are so obvious that I thought, I can't do that one. I can't wait to do this here. So I have

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I'll see you there. Shout out to FOTM Jamie Dew. They're going to have a hip cover band. They're going to do a live recording. It's going to be a big deal for hip fans. Here's the poster. Yes. Yeah, there's the poster.

Thank you, Rob. That's the poster right there, Getting Hip to the Hip. How come your logo's not on there? That should have been part of the sponsorship. Also, delete that right there. But shout out to Getting Hip to the Hip. You should have got your logo on that, man. Do you want some help with promotional relationships?

Well, that's what you're here for, man. That's what we do in radio, man. That's what you're here for. I can't afford to advertise. Stick your logo on that, man. Do you want some help with promotional relationships? Well, that's what you're here for, man. That's what we do in radio, man. That's what you're here for. I can't afford to advertise. Stick my logo on everything. That's right. One more event since I'm now promoting another event, which is TMLX 13.

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streak, fuck. Fuck! It's been a year since the last one. Well, okay. The last one at Great Lakes, but we had one at Palmas Kitchen. Yes, that. September 1st last year. Yeah, it was TMLX X, and this is TMLX

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just like last time. We're all going to be fed by palm apostate. There you go. Okay, wow, you can't beat this. And there's no admission charge here. Just get your ass over there and let's hang out, man.

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a couple of FOTMs died. We were kind of doing a big death thing there. But I do want way a couple of FOTMs died we were kind of doing a big deaf thing there but I do want to shout out to FOTMs who died since you guys were last here Bob Segarini passed away and Hal Harbour passed away Hal Harbour was long gone by the time Bob Ouellette got to 102.1

often spoke about though in the building for sure he He helped break the Barenaked Ladies. I got a note from Tyler Stewart today where he talked about how he came to all the events, he promoted them, helped them with that

new music search contest they won, and got them on the radio. Wow. Like, Barenaked Ladies, who have a number one billboard hit, got on the radio, in large part,

due to the fact that they had a champion at 102.1 named Hal Harbour. Amazing. And I did have Hal Harbour on Toronto Mic only in September. Yeah, not that long ago, right? No, less than a year ago. And I only found out earlier this week that he passed away

and, oh, yeah, earlier this week. What are we, Sunday? But he, yeah, he was, it's sad because he just seemed like a cool cat, very creative guy guy it's nice to hear your episode now in hindsight now that he's gone and knowing that it was so recent it was a nice sort of summation of his career and like who he is and where he's been and what he's doing you asked the right questions you got the right history out of him that's what i found interesting

about segherini passing away and then the next month uh hell harbor and that there are two guys like you know there's a lot of guests guests of Toronto Mike have done a hundred things, maybe a thousand things, right? Like, so there's gonna be a lot of like stuff you can go to when they pass. But these are two cats, like Segarini and Hell Harbor, where like, I mean, this is gonna sound arrogant,

but I feel like I've got the go-to definitive capsulation of their careers in their own words. Like, you know, and the fact that, cause I've listened to both episodes after they passed and you're hearing them in their own words. Yeah. You know? And the fact that, because I've listened to both episodes after they passed and you're hearing them in their own words talk about their life and times. And it's really kind of a special thing.

Like, so they've passed away. They've shed their mortal coil and forever we have their voice and their words talking about, you know, what happened here, what happened there, why they went and did this. And it's something special, you know?

All right. Thank you for doing it. Thank you listening rob pruse from the spoons did you prefer the spoons or just spoons i didn't care yeah there you go sometimes it said spoons sometimes people say the spoons but whatever you don't get as long as it sounds grammatically correct you're fine true like what's on the albums i liked your your, when What's His Name from the Tragically Hip was here, and you were being very careful with the hip and the Tragically Hip. He's crazy about it. I know. Like if I say anything on Twitter, even, we're kicking out Tragically Hip jams. Yeah.

I get a note, we're kicking out the Tragically Hip jams, which sounds funny to me. It's awkward. Yeah. But Jake Gold. And Jake Gold is another guy. Hal Harbour and I talked for that whatever 80 minutes in September Hal Harbour would

get calls this is you know late 80s early 90s he'd get all these phone calls from Jake Old about getting the Tragically Hip

on the radio in my band the the the the Tragically Hip oh there you go and did you guys hear Paul

I think Paul Angwok came here after your last visit did anyone listen it was awesome yeah yeah good job

that's the one you had him on the basement right I have had him on the basement, right? I have had him on the basement. Who else in the hip you had? Robbie Baker. Very good. I got to get Robbie Baker. I had Robbie Baker with Craig Northey together

because they have their side project called Strippers Union. Of course. Okay, very cool. On that note, just since we're talking about CanCon, I got to promote later this week. Neil Osborne is going to be sitting in that seat. Yes, amazing. just since we're talking about CanCon, I got to promote later this week. Neil Osborne's going to be sitting in that seat. Yes, amazing.

And we're going to have, yeah, in my basement. And Harold Hossain is coming over. That's pretty cool. And some guy named Stu Stone. This is an A-level week, man. Well, you guys are the top of the Sunday here. If your week starts on Sunday.

The broadcast week starts on Sunday. The broadcast week starts on Sunday. Okay, this is the first episode of the week. We're going in this order since I am the benevolent dictator of Toronto Mike. We're going to do it like this. It's going to be Rob Pruce and then we're going to do Bob Boulette and then we're going to do me. Any

words to say, Rob, before I kick out your first flower jam Uh no Okay let's do it Let it rip Play it loud There's a fly in the window A dog in the yard

And years since I saw you There's a trunk in the corner Thank you. You went to please me Cooked black coffee's me Made elderberry wine Drunk on the top Three last pounds Of elderberry wine Those were the days We lay in the haze Forget the pleasant times How can I ever get it together

Without a white line To paint the crop and get me hot On your very line Rob Pruitt, you got a few years on Bob and I, but is this a deep cut or is this a radio jam? It's a deep cut. Yeah. Because I don't know this song.

Good. It was on the album Don't Shoot Me, I'm Only the Piano Player, which came out in 73. Okay. It was the flip side of Crocodile Rock. Ah. There's a big jam. The flip side of Crocodile Rock. Yeah.

What's this called? Elderberry Wine. Okay. I have a dumb question. Is elderberry a flower? Yeah. There you go. Listen, I went to Wikipedia. I did flower. Did you know that, Bob? That elder elderberry a flower? Yeah. There you go. Listen, I went to Wikipedia.

I did flower. Did you know that, Bob? That elderberry is a flower? I'd be honest with you. I did a little flower research because I was like, I don't want to get busted on this song. Elderberry is a flower.

It's Sambuca. Oh, no way. There's a jam coming up I'm furious about. Really? Mine? No. No, it's mine.

It's one of mine. I'm furious about it. I am livid. It's from a family called Sambuca, a genus of flowering plants. The species are commonly referred to as elder, elderflower, or elderberry. They're formerly placed in the honeysuckle family. In August 1983, a group of 25 people in California became ill after ingesting elderberry juice

processed from fresh, uncooked Sambucus mexicana berries. So Elton John's singing about elderberry wine. I hope he didn't get sick. Right? Right, because you have to be careful, apparently. Yeah. So this is a deep cut from this album, which had the hits Daniel and Crocodile Rock.

Wow. And I discovered this album when I was like 10 years old because I just wanted the album. I was going backwards now, collecting all his albums. Yeah. Okay, that's it. So that's why I mentioned you having a couple years with us because if you bought the album,

because I know this, when I buy the album, the album cuts, they mean as much to me as the hits because when you listen to it over and over again or whatever. But for Bob and I who might only know Elton John from the radio... Like the Lion King. I'm kidding.

How old do you think we are? I think we're 30. For me though, and we've talked about this before, a lot of my Elton John exposure, besides the radio and all that sad song, Stay So Much, all the 80s stuff, was the greatest hits. Yes. Well, me too, though. Me too.

Radio songs. But for me- This is a man with many radio hits. Oh, yeah. But see, when Crocodile Rock was a single in like 73, my first Elton John album was greatest hits, number one, in like 75. I was 10 years old. So I was obsessed with the Greatest Hits album.

Then I was going backwards, realizing that these songs all came off of other records. This was the second Elton John album I ever had. That's how I worked with Neil Young. Yeah, you go backwards, right? That's exactly what I did. It's the coolest thing. And we've talked about this in the past.

That's how we rolled, man. We didn't have streaming fucking devices. You gotta buy the records. You had to wait. You either had to own it, or you had to wait to hear it on the radio. Sometimes you listen we rolled, man. We didn't have streaming fucking devices. You got to buy the records. You either had to own it or you had to wait to hear it on the radio. And sometimes you listen to side one more than side two.

I had the band's greatest hits. Or side two. Whatever side had the best song, I'd be like, oh my God, I know side two so well. I don't really know side one. Right, right, right.

For sure. So elderberry wine, you're telling me elderberry is a flower. So if that's true and I trust you, it's a flowering plant. Okay.

But there's flowers on it yeah and the flowers are called elderberries yeah okay i am i will just see i am livid at a pick that i'm gonna have to play later i'm livid do you want to save it for my last one so we can save the anger for the end or do you just want to i don't mind getting angry i kind of did it on purpose well you just try to piss me off i haven't been this mad you'll see since we were kicking out uh march of the pigs well march of the pigs didn't piss me off. I haven't been this mad since we were kicking out. March of the Pigs. Well, March of the Pigs didn't piss me off. It was disgusting.

And I'm still angry about it, Mr. Gordon. But what pissed me off is we were kicking out jams with other musicians in the title. Yeah. And Stu Stone kicked out KRS-One's Sound of the Police. Okay. Sound of the Police because there's a band called the Police. There was. But they weren't singing about the police. And to me me it was so offensive because that's an important song about uh police brutality

especially of young black men and fucking stew stone who's now officially banned from toronto mike i'm canceling his friday appearance because i'm mad again but i gotta save this i gotta save this anger we talked earlier about robbie rober Robertson passing away. Robbie Robertson was a key songwriter and guitarist with the band. The lead singer was an American named Levon Helm, and I'm here to tell you that Elton John has a great song called

Levon. He shall be Levon. That was a good six degrees. There you go. Levon. Yeah, I like Levon, actually. It's a good Elton John song. It's great. Thank you. I like that.

I like hearing new stuff. The production on that. I never heard that song before. The production's so good. So they just released, because it's the 50th anniversary of the release of the album, and on Record Store Day,

they released a special vinyl, two vinyl set, two disc set, whatever it's called, and the second disc had demos of these songs, and I just discovered it last night, and you can hear Elton working it out with the band. Love that shit.

Love that shit. And shout out to Elton's husband, David Furnish, who was recently a guest on Mary Jo Eustace's Senior Bitches, which I produced. David and Mary Jo

were friends as teenagers. Isn't that a small world? I met David once. It's my one degree from Elton John. Okay, yeah, he's a Toronto guy. Yeah. Okay, he seemed like a nice guy. And I think Elton's got a home. He's a Toronto guy. Yeah. Okay. He seemed like a nice guy. And I think Elton's got a home.

He's got many homes, but I believe he has one in Toronto. Yep. Okay. Love it. Bob Ouellette. Yes. Program director of the Chorus Cluster in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Chorus Cluster in Kingston.

Chorus Cluckster. Cluckster. Home of the morning show, Stu and Monica in the morning. How's that going? Fresh mornings with Monica and Jesse. Oh, shit. Stu lost that gig already. Okay.

He didn't even get it. Any words before I kick out your first jam? It's called Flower. Ooh. Green salad, a green salad down. Last done spot, gotta tell the crowd. Green salad, a green salad down. Last done spot, gotta tell the crowd.

So many words Oh, Bob. You can tell me. Sure, yeah. Sorry, we can bring it down anytime. So obviously, we all know who did this. This is Moby. And it was not featured on Play. It's on Play the B-Sides.

Yes. Interesting. And every song in Play was licensed for an ad, right? Yeah, that's the story. This was supposed to be his last album. I've actually had the opportunity pre-podcast. I did a thing when I was at 1039 Proud FM called Moby, unlike anything you've heard.

And I did an hour-long special. Do you have that audio? I do, still. Do you ever think of editing that into a Bob Space? I probably could, shouldn't I? I could, couldn't I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally still have the audio.

I would do that. Yeah, and so it's me and Moby talking. He had the album at that time that he was doing called Destroyed, and we sat and we talked about his whole album. So there's a couple of reasons I brought this up. First of all, I love Moby. I think, you know, I mean, I'm not, I wasn't one of those cool kids going to raves in the nineties here and

seeing him DJ and all that. I have seen him DJ, but I saw him at This Is London DJ one time. But I just want to, as we know, the album is full of these samples, right? And the samples are specifically from a box set that was released in 93 called Sounds of the South, a musical journey from the Georgia Sea Islands to the Mississippi Delta. Is that where all the samples came from? Yes.

That's so cool. Yes. So a friend of his in 93 lent him the box set. And then in 2000 or 98 is when he started releasing the singles, Run On and all the first ones. And these are all from that. That's amazing. And it's all, I guess at that point, it's all license free because

it's all this old stuff. Nobody owns it. So he gets to do this. My question for you is, could somebody do that today now? Could a white guy specifically, could a white guy do that? I would like to think yes. I don't know if he can though. He should be able to. I don't know if he can. Is it

not appropriating? I know. I love this album and I don't know if he can though. He should be able to. I don't know if he can. Is it not appropriating? I know. I love this album and I don't think Moby appropriated anything. No. I think Moby gave life to these two. This is a great conversation

because I sometimes I know because you're a good program director. Good job. Because there's a fine line between appropriation and celebration. Yeah.

Right. Absolutely. I always like if I get into I don't know Filipino food or whatever and I start to't know filipino food or whatever and i start to learn how to create filipino food or whatever like i'm a white guy i have no filipino blood yeah you're not allowed to make filipino food then but are you but if nobody what if you start making money on it that's what yeah oh i so what about dave's hot chicken

dave's hot chicken is a very uh it's a it's a franchise here in toronto now and uh it's a bunch of uh college age white dudes in the states started it and have made this huge franchise where does it where does it what is that appropriation can i ask you do you remember the rap group young black teenagers not really no i do it was a bunch of white guys i just i had that memory. Young black teenagers were a bunch of white guys. I love that song. It's cool to hear that because right away I was like, oh my God, this is that Moby album. And they all kind of have the same feeling

with the piano and the vocals and the samples, right? But it's such a good feeling from 23 years ago, 24 years ago. And that was featured in the very first Gone in 60 Seconds, that movie. Amazing. That song was. Okay, you know the band Magic Gone in 60 Seconds, that movie. That song was. That song was. Okay, you know the band Magic, Toronto band.

Yeah, of course. Why you gotta be so rude? Right, but that's a reggae song. Okay, but that's a reggae beat. It's not saying. Sting is on line one. That's what I was going to say. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Culture Club is on line two. Okay, but doing something in the style of is one thing. I mean, you know, those Greta Van Fleet kids are stealing Led Zeppelin. Who stole Led Zeppelin? You can steal Led Zeppelin. But, okay, so that's it. But doing the style of is one thing. I mean, you know, those Greta Van Fleet kids are stealing Led Zeppelin. Who stole all the money? You can steal Led Zeppelin. But, okay, so that's it. But doing the style, this is actually taking the vocals

from these long dead R&B gospel artists, black families that probably never got any money. You know what? I wish Kanye would do that shit. Yeah, that would be great. Probably not using all your shits and your swear words.

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So it doesn't have, but is there a parallel? Is there something that could happen where it's like, but you're saying it's okay for magic to have a hit in reggae songs, even if they're like Toronto white. Oh, I think so. Well,

especially, and if you want to talk to me, Toronto is so Caribbean, you know, influenced by the Caribbean. But then now you can talk about Snow, who I met at a Stu Stone film, Darren O'Brien, who of course famously had a number one fan.

Again, that's not stealing the actual product. And I'm not saying Moby stole. I'm a huge Moby fan. But that's not taking the actual. It's just busting their styles. Yeah, that's all. So yeah, you can do that. You know what?

If Darius Rucker, who is a black man, can do a country and western song, I don't know. He's a big deal. Huge deal. I don't know. I just thought it was a good discussion to have for a bunch of middle-aged white dudes.

Appropriation. This is the most diverse. This toast is the most... This toast makes Cam and Stu seem diverse. At least Stu Stone is Jewish, okay? That's true. That's true that's true all right yeah i thought we needed a little 90s alt rock oh did you and maybe even a little canadian 90s alt rock

i just felt like we were missing that on trying to make so here's my first flower jam a song bob's heard a few times, I suppose. She's crazy A pop-up book Of flowers from grateful Are driving Her insane And no one Knows why She's sad tonight

No one Can help her fight Crying, crying She couldn't afford the pain Crying, crying I need to know. I need a ruling here, okay? You know how sometimes you kick out, I don't know, a Nickelback song and you're wondering,

am I allowed to tell you that I enjoy this Nickelback song? Is there some shame in that? This doesn't sound like Nickelback at all. No, This sounds like Our Lady Peace, but I love early Our Lady Peace from the first few albums.

Why wouldn't you? Is that okay? Sure. Are you not allowed? Well, here's the thing. Bob's going to make a ruling. Am I allowed to like Our Lady Peace?

You are allowed to like whatever you like because I think it's Chuck Klosterman who said, I hate guilty pleasures because guilty is the guilt yeah lose the fucking guilt if you like it you like it i'm i dig this is from clumsy uh the second studio i like the first one too now be there but clumsy is a fucking great album it's an amazing album 1997 it was the the year that our lady piece started headlining all those, the Edge Fest before that, Tea Party

headlined them all. And it was the passing of the torch. I had Mike Turner on Bob's Basement to talk a lot about this. Your first guest. My very first guest was Mike Turner, the founding guitarist. Mike, fun fact, and everyone knows this, especially you, but maybe Rob doesn't know this. Try me. Rain Maida.

Yeah. He's a Mike. Yeah. I know. Rain is a Mike? Somebody's learning that for the first time. No, I didn't know that. Okay, see Rain made a... Yeah. He's a mic. Yeah. I know. Rain is a mic? Somebody's learning that for the first time. No, I didn't know that. Okay, see?

See? There you go. That's a fun fact. Rain made a is a mic. It's a mic made a. Is rain bullshit? He made that up. Superstar.

This is a great song, but it's interesting to me how as time goes on and you listen to music from a different era, you start recognizing where the hell it comes from. Okay. I'm like, this was great when it was Smashing Pumpkins. Three years before. Four years before. and you listen to music from a different era, you start recognizing where the hell it comes from. And this was great when it was Smashing Pumpkins. Three years before. See, you know what I mean? Four years before. This is a little melancholy-ish, but at the time it was fantastic as well,

but the influences and the inspirations become more obvious as time goes on, which I greatly appreciate. Because certainly I came through an era where the music we made, at the time we thought everything we were making was pretty original, and then now I hear a Flacasigo song we made, at the time, we thought everything we were making was pretty original. And then now I hear a Flacasigo song and go, oh my God, we totally...

You know, it's something I was listening to some spoons the other day and I was hearing Duran Duran. Of course. Everything is a product of what's around it, right? And thank God there were eras when radio was playing all new stuff, but we were all feeding off of each other. So I love the fact that this reminds me of just the 90s in a great way. Did you ever have a moment where a label came to you and said hey can you write a hit guys like like we need we need the

hit there's so many famous stories about bands that yeah they needed a hit yeah blink 182 right all the small things wasn't that like that like we need a hit only I mean I mean it was like an unspoken thing but sure for us even the record company would say well you know you guys had some with this let's try to get to the next level, which is an unspoken or not so obvious way of saying, just write a song that's more radio friendly.

Isn't Song 2 from Blur one of those examples? Probably. I feel like that's like a, hey, we need a hit and then as a joke, they write like Song 2 because it's a song

I had a friend, a good friend in New York, this old songwriter You had a friend? Yeah, one, but he passed away in 2020 but shout out to Ridley Gil

so his name is Mark Barkin he was a songwriter that I met in New York City yeah and he had hits on the radio in the 60s he wrote a song which was a number one

for Manfred Mann called Pretty Flamingo which was also covered by Springsteen Elvis Costello which is ironic Springsteen wrote Manfred Mann's biggest hit

right how weird is that you're right So my friend Mark Wrote this song Pretty Flamingo Covered by all these people But he had hits

By Frank Sinatra Sonny and Cher Dusty Springfield But he told me the stories He used to work At the Brill Building And a lot of his songs Were like the second hit

So somebody would have a hit And they would come back To the songwriter's circle And say We need something like that So some of his songs Be a reaction to, hey, this is a hit.

Yeah. Give us that. And in the 60s, they would almost be the same song. Right. Yeah. And you could get away with it in those days even more.

Plan of Blonde used to do this. He sort of. Yeah. You had Mark Holmes on yet? Not yet. I'm still working on it. I have to talk to him about Tears of Not Enough.

Yeah. Well, you got to have Mark on. He's got a new piano bar. Pete Fowler promised me... I have a direct connection to Mark Holmes. I have Mark's phone number. I can text him. Yeah, well, you got to have Mark on. He's got a new piano bar. Pete Fowler promised me. I have a direct connection to Mark Holder. I have Mark's phone number. I can text him.

Can you do a speech? No, that's a long story. How many phones do you have, Bob Willett? I've got two. Does your wife know? I've got two.

Yeah, yeah. Well, I've got two, and then I've got my wife. You know what they say about guys with two phones? No,

what? You know what they say. Okay. Tune in next week. I would just go out there to say, even though I feel like it might be a tiny bit cheesy

to say you like Our Lady Peace, and I still like those first two. I still like the first two. No, they sound great. I would just go out there to say, even though I feel like it might be a tiny bit cheesy to say you like Our Lady Peace and I still like those first two. I still like the first three albums. No, they sound great. I still like Happiness is Not Officially. I still like the first three albums, but particularly this one's clumsy.

A lot of big fucking hits on there. I should tell you the video for Automatic Flowers, which we just listened to, went to number one on the Much Music Countdown in October 97. Amazing.

Okay. This is, again, let's not bury the leader. That's a Toronto band. Yes. A lot of times you rank Toronto bands and you got your obvious guys in there. This is, again, let's not bury the leader. That's a Toronto band. Yes. Okay. A lot of times you rank Toronto bands and you got your obvious guys in there.

Rush is in there. Maybe Barenaked Ladies and all these Toronto bands get listed. I feel Our Lady Peace gets kind of, again, Blue Rodeo gets listed, but Our Lady Peace kind of gets slighted somehow. This is an underrated Toronto band. And Rain Maida is a bit pretentious

and a bit hard to deal with. And you can talk to Jeremy Taggart about this, who would tell you, like, he had to be the front man, the star. How many, you know, shots of the drummer did you see, but fucking good shit came out of that band.

Yeah. Navied clumsy. And I mean, just on the way out here, I'll just say, I'm not ashamed to say. Yeah. This song is a slow start.

Really tight. Well, this song's not meant for uh radio well i guess i took the video version but here i have to tell you 4 a.m is a great fucking song when i hear it i sing along at the top of my lungs i got a great a little bit a little quick 4 a.m story i'll let rain start to talk here in just a second over it you take you gotta hear the opening thing you got walked around your right here. Let's do it together, guys. Walked around my good intentions. So Jeremy, Mike, and Rain are all on the Humble and Fred show when we're at Edge 102. And they're here.

The only single at the time was Clumsy. I think that was the first single off the album in 97. This is now. But it's huge. Superman's Dead. Oh, Superman's Dead. You're right. I apologize. Because Clumsy's I think that was the first single off the album in 97. This is now, but it's huge. Superman's Dead. Oh, Superman's Dead. You're right. I apologize.

Because Clumsy's the second one. Yes, you're right. And then Automatic Flowers in the third. Yes. We end up, we have all three guys on the show, and it's one of those times when, as a radio programmer, the PD would have hated it, but Humble Predator, we're just throwing out all the rules. We're going to sit with these guys, talk to them,

kick out a bunch of jams. We didn't say that at the time, of course, but we would listen to a bunch of Our Lady Peace music, and then everybody's like, well, what do you want to hear? And I was there. I wasn't on the board. Danger Boy, Jason Barr, was on the board, and Fred

said something from the first album, and they all just went, ah! What was it off the new album? And I said, 4am. And rain was like yes 4 a.m cool and then later that night they were playing at the phoenix concert theater and i was set up for the club or for the i was set up why was i up in the dj booth because that was a set maybe i can't remember anyhow rain comes out and gives me the nod because he saw me up in the thing. It's cool. We had talked about 4AM. That's a great story.

He gave me a little nod and I was like, ah, so great. That's cool. Yeah. That's a great story. That's my 4AM story. Love it. Love it. Chantel Kriviacek, married to Rain Maida.

Yes. He's really a Mike Maida. Was recently on a program I produced. And I just want to tell everybody the name has changed. So Helen Tansey's excellent Feminine Warriors is now known as Coming Into Focus. This is important information.

So the new name of Feminine Warriors is Coming Into Focus. And she recently chatted up Chantel Corbierge. Her album, Under These Rocks and Stones, is one of my favorite albums

from the 90s. I love that album. Wayne is on that. From the beginning. Surrounded. Well, yes. No, yes. Surrounded Wayne and God Made Me.

I know. I love that album, too. It's like one of my favorite albums from the 90s. I would put that in my top 20. All right. I'm adding it to my playlist. Add it to your playlist. And fucking 4AM is a great fucking song.

4AM is a great jam. And when you see, I've seen R.A.P.'s live a few times, and this is like a song where Rain holds the mic up and lets the crowd sing it, and it's kind of a cool moment, man. Yeah, I get chills when I think about it. Look at this. I get chills when I think about it. Bob's got chills. I legit have chills.

I love this band. I've always liked them. Okay. I almost don't want to fade again. We've got a nice moment here before you hate me. Well, I've got to go through a Rob Proust jam first. I'm going to have another beer before we... Crack it on mic.

I figure out what's wrong. I figure out. I hope to God I figure out what's wrong. If I don't make it, know that I loved you all along Just like sunny days light We know because we're all coming, Janie Oh, 90s angst. I'm just like sunny days We know because we're all coming And I hope to God I'll figure it out I am forever searching high and low But why does everybody tell me no?

Neptune of the seas, An answer for me please The lily of the valley I lie in wait with open eyes I carry on through stormy skies I follow every cause It's my kingdom for all But each time I grow old So come talk to me now

Relieve me for a while And cast me from your spell Let me go Messenger from seven seas has flown So take it back He's lost his throne Wars will never cease It's the time when the whole piece

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Fill me up with value. Fill me up with value. Fill me up with Play the whole song without saying a word. It's only an hour. It's only a minute and 40 seconds. Thank you for doing that. It was a beautiful thing. It was a beautiful song. And much like your Elton John, a massive artist like fucking Elton John.

And I'm like, I don't know this song because I'm an idiot. Yeah, no. This is a Queen song. This is a deep cut. And I don't know this song. Yeah, no, this is from the third album. Bob, do you know this song? Did not know that song.

See, Bob knows a lot of music. Nope, don't know it. This Yeah, no, this is from the third album. Bob, do you know this song? Did not know that song. See, Bob knows a lot of music. Nope, don't know it. This is not Another One Bites the Dust. And this is not like Night at the Opera. What albums is this on? This is Sheer Heart Attack. Okay. One album earlier only.

Great. Came out in 74. What are the hits on that album? Killer Queen. Okay. Okay, yes. She keeps. And Now I'm Here, which was sort of a hit.

It was a single, but it's like a staple of the Queen. This is another artist where it was the greatest hits I had. Although the greatest hits I had did not have Bohemian Rhapsody on it. Classic Queen did. They released them at the same time. Queen greatest hits and Classic Queen. Bullshit move. One was blue and one was purple. I had the Eagles greatest hits and it didn't

have Hotel California. The Eagles greatest hits volume two has it. That's right. And also... Getting angry over here. Right. But so for me, once again, this is like the Elton John song where these songs were like instantaneously came into my head

for flower jams because of my childhood obsession with Elton John and Queen specifically I was working backwards in their catalog because you were

a piano prodigy you were on fucking CBC I don't know you were 12 or whatever CHCH in Hamilton but weren't you on CBC for some kind of oh going great

I played at your first visit. Going great? Yeah, that was the TV show. Chris Makepeace was the host of that show. Yeah, so I know what I'm talking about

because I did my homework when the fucking Rob Proust was making his Toronto debut. That's right, you did that, you played that clip. I played the clip.

But this, so I had, when I was 10 years old, I had a night at the opera because of Bohemian Rhapsody. of course. And my cousin in Germany was like,

Killer Queen is a super cool song, it was on the radio. So I went to Zeller's to buy another Queen album and I ended up getting Queen 2, which is another story. Then the next one I got

was Sheer Heart Attack, which has Killer Queen on it. This song, Lily of the Valley, was just like a song in the midst. It's gorgeous. It's Freddie singing

all the vocals as well, which didn't happen on a lot of the songs because Roger and Brian wanted to sing as well for the variety of the vocals. But every once in a while, Freddie would do everything. And I think this song sort of

hints towards the next couple of albums. Sheer Heart Attack sort of laid the groundwork for their experimentation with the theatrical elements, the music hall kind of stuff, and the overblown vocal ballads like this. I love it. You know, that's a good place to buy your discs.

So I guess you were buying tapes or vinyl. What were you buying back then? Zellers. Yeah. Vinyl. Vinyl. For sure. Because the lowest price

was the law. It was the law. You had to get the lowest price. Yep. It's true. Lowest price was the law. Okay.

So Lily of the Valley is a real flower too. Lily of the Valley is a real flower. I have no problems with your first two jams, Rob Prues. And as you know, automatic flowers,

I can't imagine you guys have a problem. That's clearly a flower jam. It's called automatic flowers. My problem is with this jam. So I'm just going to play it, Bob, unless you have any words to say before. No, no, no. We're going to play it,

and then I'm going to tear a shred off this man, Bob fucking Willett. Are you ready with me, Rob Prues? I'm ready. Join me. I'm taking a step back. Alright, here we go. Let's do this. Crickets?

Crickets are I was just camping. I didn't even hear any crickets on my camping trip. Here we go. Getting angry. You don't want to see me when I'm angry. You've never seen me angry. It's happening. I'm angry. You've never seen me angry. It's happening. I'm enraged.

You woke up in the rusted frame You burned out old DeVille I recognize the voice. Your legs are shot and they're flush with pain But you can't keep them still The sun sets and you're afraid Of that itching in your skin Stumble down the boulevard

With neon andrusted temple. Looking for the grace of God in the arms of a fellow stranger. Disciples handing catalogs of concubines as you stumble down the boulevard. All right. Robert, we'll let you disrespect. Do not. Toast. You disrespect Toronto, Mike. I do not.

I'm expanding your brain. This is, the song is called Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas. Hey, so stop right there for a second. Do you recognize the vocal? Yes. The song is called, Rob, not you. Let me, no. Do you recognize the voice?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. So that's, so. Okay. Okay. No, is called Rob. Not you. No. Do you recognize the voice? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, okay. So that's so. Okay. Okay. No, you won't.

The name of the song is called Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas. Stop right there. The album is called Flamingo. Okay. And you go ahead. You say the part that angers you. Rob Pruce. Yeah.

Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas. Do you hear that a flower song? Are the flowers mentioned in the song? No, I don't even know There's no fucking flowers to be found in this fucking song But the singer of this song His name is Brandon Flowers From the Killers

So you picked a flower jam I picked a flower jam with Brandon Flowers From the Killers Rob, I know you're a sweetheart This is the difference between the classic toast lineup and this toast lineup. We get along normally on everything. Cam would already be strangling Stu. We'd be throwing

things at him. We'd be calling him a fucking asshole. I'm just expanding things. It doesn't matter. Listen, don't be a nice guy. I know you're naturally a nice guy. Tell me why I'm wrong. We stood out in flower jams. It disrespects the spirit of the category. I disagree.

It expands the spirit of the category. It's like all it does is it gives us a bigger universe of songs to choose from. Automatic flowers. Hang on. Automatic flowers is not about flowers. Are there flowers mentioned

in that song? I don't even think they mention flowers. But it's not fucking about flowers. Are there flowers mentioned in that song? I don't even think they mention flowers. It's in the title of the fucking song. But it's not fucking about flowers. These automatic flowers won't do. But they're not. But it's not about flowers. Are you telling me this is more of a flower jam than automatic flowers? It's a flowers jam.

I think it's a Brendan Flowers jam. It's a flowers jam. I think it's just as much as, I think it's just as legitimate a flower jam as anything that's been picked so far. And I picked songs with frickin' things that had leaves on them. Yes, you did. Elderberries. Rob, I want you to get angry. I'm not really angry. I want you to get angry. Don't you think I'm just being creative? Oh, sure, you're being creative.

You went outside the box. That's exactly it. We can't live inside a box. Exactly. It's a big fuckin' box, Rob. But the box also contains appropriation. Is Moby allowed to use the sample today? I brought that to the table too. Yeah, you did.

Yeah, yeah. But that's another conversation. But also, you can only, you have to think outside the box. This is the march

of the pigs of this new Toast lineup. Yep. Kicking out Spring Jams. March of the Pigs.

Because Cam knew it would infuriate Stu and I. Bob Willett knew that kicking out a Brandon Flowers song... No, I thought you would be appreciative of the creativity. I'm appreciative of the creativity. Thank you.

I'm a Libra. What can I say? You're balanced. I think Bob Bruce is just a sweetheart. If incapable of telling you how he really feels... Oh no, I could tell you if I really felt... So you're okay with this? Yeah. So first of all, it's a pretty good album.

I just want to say it came out in 2010. He's had two solo albums, Brendan Flowers. Most of this album was produced by Daniel Lanois. Really? Yeah, and the guy who's... Really? Yeah. That's exciting.

But this particular song is the only one that's not, and it's produced by longtime Pearl Jam collaborator, Brendan O'Brien. Big time. Brendan and Brandon. Yes, there you go. Brendan and Brandon. Yeah, and then the. Brendan and Brandon. Yeah. And then the other guy who is the producer is also known

as Jacques Lucant. I don't know if you know, heard of him. He's a remixer guy. What's his real name? Hang on. Jack. Stuart Price. Stuart Price. Stuart Price. Yeah. Also known as Jacques what? Jacques Lucant. Say that carefully. Hang on. Yes.

Jacques Lucant. Yeah. I don't want to put explicit lyrics on this. This guy's done like Madonna Dua. Yes. Jack Luke Hunt. Yeah. He's done like this guy's done like Madonna Dua Lipa, the killers. Yeah. New order. Yeah. Jack Luke Hunt, thin white do Jack Luke Hunt, Duke Hunt, thin white Duke remix of Mr. Brightside is amazing. No way. Yes. Wow. Anyways, so there was a guy on Captain Crunch

named Jacques LaFoot on the Captain Crunch commercials. Do you remember Jacques LaFoot? No. He was on the ship with Captain Crunch. What? I mean, Captain Crunch. There was more characters than just Captain Crunch. You'd have to be old enough to get that. Is that a 70s reference? It's a 70s reference. It's not an 80s. It's before your time. If you get late 70s, I can pick up

the other thing, but like 79. I know, but I know. Sorry. That was a good song. I like that song. Rob, do you remember the... First of all, okay, so I'm just officially on the record. On the record. I just want to officially... I'm filing a protest.

Okay. I don't believe... I work in a union environment now. We're waiting for the judges. Back in the day when we had winners and losers and Stu thought he won every time and Levi Fumka was banned from judging, okay?

Now I realize there are no winners and losers on Toast. We're all winners, but not today. Today we're all losers and we're all worse off because Bob Willeck kicked out a song that has nothing to do with flowers. Okay, nothing to do with flowers. I'm about to kick out a fucking song that's about flowers.

Okay. Goodness gracious, maybe I'll just go right into it. We need a palate cleanser. That is an embarrassing moment in the history of the Toronto Mines. Shout out to Great Lakes. They're going to buy you your first beer at TMLX 13 on September 7th. And if you ever heard another

date tied to TMLX 13, that was as bullshit as Bob Ouellette's choice in this jam-picking. I have changed the date. And Rob, if you're not at TMLX 13, I'm not even going to shut it down. You're not in Canada.

He's not in California. He can get to Canada. I might. You don't fly. I know you fly. Jesus. For the lasagna and the beer and the company,

I want to see everybody. I don't even know if I want to have a TMLX 13 about Rob Cruz. All right, guys. This is a song you all know. This is a song

that has been everywhere in 2023. Let's fucking kick it and talk about it. Okay? Enough talk. More rock. Here we go.

We were good. We were cold cold kind of dream that can't be sold we were right till we weren't built a home and watched it burn i didn't want to leave you i didn't want to leave you, I didn't want to lie Started to cry but then remembered I I can buy myself flowers Write my name in the sand Talk to myself for hours Say things you don't understand I can take myself dancing And I can hold my head

Yeah, I can love me better than you can Can't love me better I can love me better, baby Can't love me better I can love me better, baby Paint my nails. Cherry red. All right, we've all heard this song probably quite often.

I don't even listen to Top 40 Radio, and I feel like I've heard this song early and often. Okay, so this is Flowers by Miley Cyrus, which I fucking dig. I think it's a great fucking single. Yep, absolutely. And it's a flower jam, Bob. It absolutely is. Take a note here, okay? What was the story about the song? I think it's a great fucking single. Absolutely. And it's a flower jam, Bob. Take a note here. What was the story about

the song? I have it here. I have it here. This song is essentially a response to a Bruno Mars song that Miley Cyrus is. And I gotta get these two guys right. One is like

Thor and the other is from Hunger Games. Liam. It's a Hemsworth. Hemsworth. Who cares? It doesn't matter which one. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't. It's a guy. It's a Hemsworth. Miley had a boyfriend who dedicated a Bruno Mars song to her, When I Was Your Man. And this is the response. So we all know Miley Cyrus. I can buy myself flowers.

Let's kick out a little Bruno Mars. That's right. We are now at Upper Session Road It all just sounds like Too young, too dumb to realize That I should have bought you flowers And held your hand Should have gave you all my hours It's actually a good fucking song too. It really is. It's a very good song.

So I should have bought you flowers. Miley Cyrus can buy her own fucking flowers. I can buy myself flowers. Yeah, it's a great response actually. It goes deeper than that too. Apparently she even, well she even recorded the video for it in the house in which he had an affair on her.

Oh my god. Yes, she, yeah, it's the story. And that's why it matters which Hemsworth you talk about. It's not fair to the other guy whatever

are you gonna not go see Thor if it's not Thor or Thor so I think Chris is Thor and Liam is the Hunger Games guy okay you keeping track here Rob no

no not at all are they twins are they twins and the lyrically there's responses I can buy myself flowers I can write my name in the sand yeah

because he says in this song I'll write your name in the sand. Because he says in this song, I'll write your name in the sand. But I'm realizing, like, I remember the story about this song, but I don't know that I've listened to the Bruno song to get the connection. That the chord progression is exactly the same, too. Which is cool. So I wonder if she gave credit to this track. It's a real diss track. Let's put it this way.

My seven-year-old knows every word to flowers by Marley's side. It's wild and I went to a like a talent show at the school back before it ended for the whatever and I think

three different groups of kids love it performed dances to this song like this was the biggest song at my kids primary school okay so

why am I playing it again because when I hear this song and I'm trying to get to the part and then I'm going to tell you what it reminds me of. Maybe I should start it in the background here. Okay.

Oh, I'm fading both. Let's get this one going here. Okay. My apologies here. I'm remixing here. Okay. Oh, really? Okay.

So I talked about like albums I listened to over and over again. Wham! No. Oh, it was Wham! I loved Wham! Of course, yeah. So much.

I was the perfect age, I think. I just fucking loved them. And Make It Big was a cassette I listened to a million times. Nice. So we all know this Wham! song. It's a great tune. Yep. It's coming, but I can't hear Miley Cyrus' Flowers without breaking into

And if you tell me that you're having my baby, I'll tell you that I'm happy if you want me to. There's the same fucking part in Flowers. Yeah, you might be right. Well, that's what I hear. I think Mr. Bruce could either confirm or deny it. That's a good connection, though.

I'm so proud right now because it's like praise from Caesar. But I also liked his Flowers song, too, though, so don't trust me. Well, you're not perfect. All right, so here it's coming home. It's not yet. Also a great song, by the way. I can't believe this guy's dead.

Yeah, I know. I wish I had have seen him. I saw him a couple times. Did you? Oh, yeah. Amazing. He's one of my biggest regrets of not seeing him. Elvis weeped openly when we talked about the passing of George Michael.

Have you seen the documentary yet? Not yet. You haven't? I have. Is it good? It's good. I heard it's good. Is that Andrew in the background doing that?

No, it's all George. It's all George. George is, I mean, Andrew's stirring tea in the background. He's a cheerleader. Okay, so hold on. Hang in there, everybody. It's after the next verse. It's part of the bridge, I guess.

Yeah. Great. Did you ever see Wham in concert, Mr. Prude? I did not. My sister saw him at C&E in 85. I saw George at Madison Square Garden on the Faith Tour and in Vancouver in

91. That would have been the Freedom Tour. Yeah, they called it Freedom 90. It's coming up. The part that I sing out loud whenever I hear flowers by Miley Cyrus. Here it comes. Here it comes.

So there you go. I don't know. This is just how my brain maps these songs together. Great song. Okay. So Miley Cyrus, Flowers. We all agree. Do we all agree

that's the best pop song of 2023? It's up there for sure. It's definitely will be a contender for one of them. It's, you know, it's Miley growing up

is what everybody said, right? You know, it's like not that I think she had to. I think her music's terrific already. She's done a lot of cool stuff. I love when she works with Flaming Lips too.

Yes. Cool collaborations. They were just at Oceaga and they just did Oh, my daughter was at Oceaga to see Kendrick Lamar. Oh, too. Yes. Cool collaborations. They were just at Oceaga, and they just did... Oh, my daughter was at Oceaga to see Kendrick Lamar. Oh, yeah. I had friends who were there. It's Billie Eilish, Kendrick Lamar, Flaming Lips.

Great lineup. Yeah. Wow. Wow. All right. Shout out to the late great George Michael. See who's doing that himself, too? That's George.

That's George. George did it all. He's like Freddie Mercury. He went in the studio. He laid down all the drum machine. He played all the keys. He did all the stuff. It's like Freddie Mercury. He went in the studio, he laid down all the drum machine, he played all the keys. It's like Michael Jackson would do. When you hear all the backgrounds

and the way you make me feel, I'm like, yeah, that's Michael. That's all just Michael. He just did them all. Exactly. How are we doing so far, guys? You enjoying our flower jam? Yeah, great,

except for you fucking hate me. Jesus. For trying to open your mind a little bit. I hate the game, not the player. I hate your choice. That's what I hate. See, it's good we took that picture beforehand. Yeah, not the player. I hate your choice. That's what I hate. See, it's good we took that picture beforehand.

Yeah, that's true. I'm telling you. Bob Wiseman style. And for the record, since we're now recording, Rob, you enjoyed the Bob Wiseman episode. I loved the Bob Wiseman episode. I've heard a lot of people say they love it,

and then some people have been telling me I was a bit of a saint in that episode. Well, you were a saint, and I loved it. They both can be. They're not mutually exclusive. I can be saintly. Okay, thank you very much. I want to kick out Rob Pruess' final flower jam.

Are you ready, Rob? I'm ready. I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden Along with the sunshine That's a flower jam. There's gotta be a little rain sometime When you take you gotta give So live and let live or let go

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden I could promise you things like big diamond rings But you don't find roses growing on stalks of clover So you better think it over When if sweet talking you could make it come true Rob, if you had put a gun to my head and said, who sings this song, I would be dead right now. I had no idea who the artist was.

Who is the artist? Lynn Anderson. I had to flashback to remember who it was as well because I just knew this song from when I was five years old on the radio. And again, the Flower Jams flashback to my childhood. as well because I just knew this song from when I was like five years old on the radio and again it like the flower jams flashback to my childhood these were the songs that like just immediately were like right there yeah actually my wife suggested this one and I was like oh yes of course obviously Rose Garden and originally what this song was written by a guy named Joe South

and it was a single in like 69 or something for this guy named Dobie Gray who had a song called Drift Away. Dobie Gray, sure. Yeah, of course. So he released this. Give me the b-board

of you, my soul if you wanna get lost Dobie Gray did this first? He did this originally. Lynn Anderson wanted to record the song and her producer was a little concerned

because it sings about I could give you diamond rings and stuff. It sounds like a man's perspective. Bob knows, okay. Dream Warriors. Yes. Do you remember this man's perspective. Bob knows. Okay. Dream Warriors. Yes.

Do you remember this? They name check this song. They go, I never promised you a rose garden or nourishment, just punishment for a fink who thinks you could wash your face in my sink in my sink. Nice. Yeah. Wow. Yes.

Yeah. Oh, that's cool. So when I hear Never Promised You a Rose Garden, I start to hear Dream Warriors in there. There you go. That's cool. But you also hear my other song. And I own the 12-inch single. I don't want to bury the lead here because I'm not recording in there. There you go. That's cool. But you also hear my other jam. And I own the 12-inch single. I don't want to bury the lead here because I'm not recording the video.

No, no, that's really cool. Wash your face in my sink. There you go. That's amazing. But this also leads to the other song, right? My Other Jam, which relates to this song. Oh, Mind Blow. We call this a Mind Blow.

You guys need to pick up your Mind Blow games because Bob sent me three songs, but you could have a Mind Blow for each jam. I could. I just find yeah. I mean, yeah. Finish that thought. What do you think? You think it's cheesy? I know. I think the count is a mind blow. It shouldn't be on Wikipedia. Okay.

Well, there's different degrees. You know what I mean? If I can find on Wikipedia, it's not a mind blow to me. But there will be somebody listening who will learn. When I said Rain Maida was a Mike Maida. Yeah. You're right.

If you know your 90s old rock, most people, like the Bob Willetts of the world, of course, we've all known that forever. But when Rob proves, now he knows Rain Maida is a Mike Maida. Yeah. It's worth it for that one. I guess I'm, you know what it is? I'm getting caught up in the term mind blow. Mind blow.

It could be, for me, it's more of a fun fact yeah if you're gonna blow my mind facts to my house and fun facts similar but well then I is in that I will do I will start doing fun facts because mind blows to me have to be something like I had no fucking idea those don't exist in the world no they don't work

a mic made it is that is that a fun factor in mind it's a mind blow to me but it's a fun mind blow sweetheart but it's a fun mind blow fact. This guy's a sweetheart. I gotta say. But it's a fun mind blow fact. Cam Gordon would tell Stu Dunn to get the fuck out of this basement,

you fucking asshole. There's no more Bigfoot. There's no more Loch Ness Monster. There's no more, I mean, there are sort of- They're revealing aliens to us, though.

Apparently. We don't really know what they're doing. Tom was right. Yeah. But this next jam is like a fun mind blow fact. Let's go.

Is that your phone, Paul? Somebody get the phone. Get that phone. Get that phone. There once was a time and there once was a way. We had something going into my dismay. Attention to me seemed to drift, though I don't know where. And when we're alone, Seems there's nothing to say

I bring up the topic You push it away You say that you do But I think it's just You don't care Why do I feel You're using me That was a long version.

Yeah. There you go. Love this. Love this. Love this. Love this. Tell us what we're listening to and why we're listening to it. This is called I Beg Your Pardon. Con Can.

Con Can. From Hamilton, Ontario. Yes. And the next section, so you can keep listening. But yeah, you'll get to the section where they sample. You're like the conductor. You can go like this or whatever you want. Yeah.

So they sample the Lynn Anderson song. Yes. I Beg Your Pardon. And stuck it in the song. And this was like a top 20 hit. Oh, yeah. It was a big hit here. Yeah.

89, 89, right? Yeah. The era of, I mean, what a transitional era. 89 is like Milli Vanilli. Pop music, this is a great era there. And then it kind of, it was a weird turn. It was an awkward phase. Yeah.

Okay, here it comes. Here it comes, yeah. That's it. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, it's crazy. So, Robbie, you you get it You get it This is a fun fact Mind blow

Add on to your jam That I appreciate I love this Yeah It's a fun mind blow fact Bob next time we get together You're gonna Raise your game

I'll pump it up Okay thank you Pump up the jam I'm getting an air check From my program director My mind was blown By Brandon Flowers Yeah

Because you went Outside the box Thank you But it's a big fucking box. It is a big box, but there's still a world outside the box. Why not just kick out Come As You Are by Nirvana?

Like, what the fuck? There's no rules. I'll probably figure out a word. That's way out the fucking box here. Give me a break. You're such a sweetheart. Get the fuck out of here. Okay.

All right. One beer into a man. I never promised you a rose garden for nourishment. Just punishment for a fink who thinks you can wash your face in my sink. That's right. See, you had an act.

That's more of a mind blow, too, because you brought another song into it. Yeah, but I didn't load it up because it just popped in my head. You don't know what's going to pop in this buckethead of mine, okay? And they say I'm brain damaged. Give me a break. I'm loving our flower jams. And I see now we're almost at the end. We have one more Bob Will will let jam and then there's

one more uh mike jam and then i have a little bit of a mind blow the can con got leslie very excited she says love this i want to say hi to rosie and i'm going to take this opportunity because i see rosie on the uh the live stream here i'm going to take this opportunity to tease a new podcast coming soon from TMDS. Are you guys ready? Yeah. There is a great blog called Toronto Scoop. You go to torontoscoop.com. A lot of great stuff there every day.

I learn a lot from Toronto Scoop. There's going to be a Toronto Scoop podcast, and I get to co-host it. The host is going to be Rosie, and the first, I don't know, the first 20-something episodes of Toronto Mic'd were that very same duo. Yes. No way. So this is like a throwback

to the very beginning of Toronto Mic'd. So if you liked, if you preferred those early days of Toronto Mic'd with Rosie, you're going to be able to scratch that itch. That's amazing. With the Toronto Scoop podcast. And Rosie is related to the flower jams. I mean... Oh my God! Come Rosie is related to the flower jams. I mean...

Oh, my God. Come on. Rose is a flower. Yeah. I feel sick. I beg your pardon. There's a new podcast with Rosie and Mike. There you go.

That doesn't rhyme. It doesn't rhyme, but it will in time. And by the way, the reason I close every episode of Toronto Mike with lowest of the lows, Rosie and Gray, is because the idea was it was Rosie and I was going grey. And you stuck with it. You're going grey too. I'm totally going grey.

But Rob's more Toronto Mike grey. Really? I think I got more. I don't know. I'm pretty salt and peppery over here. You're true. We're all going grey here. I thought it was Rosie and Mike. Well, it's Rosie and Greg. Rosie and Greg. That's good.

I was in a backyard, and now I'm just checking the live stream because we seem to have a notifications may include. Okay, I'll ignore that. But it doesn't matter. We're recording the podcast, so I'll continue on. But you might have found an interruption in the live stream. I'm just reloading here, but, you know. Okay.

Hmm. They don't know what they're missing. Dozens of people are upset. Tens of complaints. Tens of complaints. Oh, my goodness. Okay, who knows? Maybe somebody kicked out the Wi-Fi upstairs.

Okay, so let's get back to Bob Ouellette's final flower jam. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Sunflower Sunflower Life seeker Seed bearer

That's my favorite line. Yeah. Light keeper Beat maker So I discovered this song on a compilation CD called Quiet Time. Songs by raffi right and this is raffi yeah the baby beluga come on telephone yeah so this it's called sunflower so this is it was called quiet time songs and so you've got all these super kind of like we put it on for my

my my first born for evangeline and it would have all these beautiful like douglas mountain like all these slower cool songs and then this strange little ditty comes on that is produced in such a way i like i i see like you know like the like foggy uh hands going through wheat fields and stuff you know and rubbing and rubbing. And this, it's from 1995. And it's from an album called Raffy Radio. And Raffy did an album in 95 that was a fake radio station in which he'd come on in between and he introduced this song. And this song is just so out of the ordinary for Raffy.

But I think it's like totally within his hippie, like if you listen, like this is who he is, you know? And it's got this, again, it's totally within his hippie. If you listen, this is who he is. And it's got this, again, it's recorded in 95. It's got this weird 80s vibe. I just think it's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's like Flaming Lips or something. Yes.

It's got that vibe, right? Yeah, it's weird. And I just thought there's a... I dig it. Yeah. And my kids, my wife and I looked at each other when this came on.

Like, this is Rafi. This isn't like, you know, down by the bay, all that. This is really outside his,

that sound you expect from Rafi. And I just think it's really neat too. It's a neat, I thought you'd like to, we have a keyboardist in the room.

Yeah, I thought you'd appreciate the piano. I love the voice. I mean, more than the arrangement itself, but the sound of his voice as well. It's so cool. Taking away all the silly and just actually

singing. It's neat. This was my flower. Is this flowery enough for you? This is absolutely a flower. You've redeemed yourself, Bob Ouellette. Welcome back. You will keep your gig. And Stu, even if he begs me on Friday and says, I want that spot in the toast line,

I'll be like, no, it's filled. It's filled. All right. And good news is we're back on the live stream. So I don't know. Welcome back everybody.

My OBS crashed out and then it came back to life. So we can satisfy all those many, many, many thousands of people on the live stream. Wow. Okay. They crashed it again. That's how many people were there.

Holy smokes. All right. That's how many people were there. Holy smokes. Alright, that was Rafi's Sunflower. And now we're closing with my final flower jam. Here we go. Okay, thank you. I was waiting. I assumed. I wondered.

I assumed. Somebody had to do it. It was either this or Bette Midler. The rose. I thought waiting. I assumed. I wondered. I assumed. Somebody had to do it. It was either this or Bette Midler, the rose. I thought about Bette, but I'm... Also tiptoe through the tulips. Of course. I thought of that one, too. Oh, my God. I never thought of that.

Yes. We both lie silently still in the dead of the night. Although we both lie close together, we're real miles apart inside. Like close together, we're a few miles apart inside. Was there something I said or something I did? Did my words not come out right? Though I tried not to hurt you, though I tried. But I guess that's why they say every rose has its thorn. Every rose has its thorn Just like every night has its dawn

Just like every cowboy sings a sad, sad song Every rose has its thorn Classic. Wow. Bed of Roses by Bon Jovi, right? Yeah, but I hate Bon Jovi. I hate Bon Jovi. Get out of here. I will say that I did go through a poison phase,

and primarily because I... Cherry pie. Oh, no, that's Warren. I'm sorry. He's dead now. He's dead now. Oh, really? The lead singer,ant. I'm sorry. He's dead now. He's dead now. Oh, really? The lead singer,

Warrant, died. Oh. Johnny Warrant? It's Johnny Warrant. I'm trying to remember his name really quickly in my head, but he passed away

like a few years ago. I did not know that. I tell you no... Tell no lies. I tell no lies. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Okay, so post Joe and T.O., who was my very first best friend at St. Cecilia's for J, K, S, K in grade one.

And then I changed schools and I got a new best friend because I changed schools. Yes. And my new best friend was obsessed with poison. And that meant I heard a lot of poison and I started to like a lot of poison. This is the only number one poison song. I'm talking Billboard Hot 100 here. Like 87, 88-ish, I think. I feel like you're right with that.

Sounds about right to me. But great fucking jam, man. I don't know. It was 88, October 88. It's the third single from their second album, Open Up and Say Ah. And I believe the first album, as I recall, was called Look What the Cat Dragged In. Yeah. Fucking good stuff.

Pre-grunge, this was good shit. Oh, this is a great song. And the days when the rock bands would have a hit with the ballad. I mean, it goes back, you know, the radio-friendly song. We should name a bunch. I feel like we did a toast about the hard, soft jams by hard rock bands. And I think I might have kicked this out then, too. I think you're wrong about the guy from Warrant.

I'm 100% sure. 100% sure. I'm on their Wikipedia. There's no mention of anybody being dead in Warrant. Somebody dead? The lead singer of Warrant is dead. Eric Turner? No.

Jerry Dixon? Keep going. Steven Sweet? Keep going. Joey Allen? They probably went on without him, but the singer of that song, Cherry Pie, that guy's dead. Okay. They probably just replaced him with a different singer.

Okay, yes. So, Janie Lane. That's it. Oh, I remember that name. Okay, Janie Lane. He's the guy. I was looking in the past members. I should have been looking in the past members.

There's a picture of your house. Heaven. Heaven. Heaven isn't too far. We did heaven jams. Heaven jams. Do you want to do

that next time? Heaven jams. Because we're also religious. Yeah. Shout out to the funeral home. I'll do heaven jams.

Okay. Wait a minute. Can they have God in the title? Like what about Dear God? No, it's not religious God jams. It's heaven jams. So it just has to have heaven in the title?

That's boring. So like Spirit in the Sky? Yeah, Heaven. What would you like as the title? I would do it. I would do Dear God or The Way God Made Me. You want to do God jams? I'll do God jams.

But why can't we do both? Like, heavenly jams can include God jams? Sure'll do God jams. I'm just, why can't we do both? Like, heavenly jams can include God jams? Sure. Why wouldn't they? That's where God lives. What about Jesus built my hot rod? Sure,

why not? That's good too. Spoiler alert. I love that song. Anyways, we should be having this meeting off air. We'll talk about it. It's an off air meeting.

That's right. We already took our photo because I was worried we'd have a fight over Bob's. I'm mad at you. I am mad at you. I'm mad at your lack of creativity. Okay, so.

So every rose has its thorn. Every rose has its thorn, yes. So here's the fun thing. So I was actually chatting with my 19-year-old earlier today. We went swimming together. And we were chatting about today's topic. And I was like, what's your favorite flowers jam? And she was telling me.

And then I told her I was going to kick out Every Rose Has Its Thorn. And she starts singing it. She doesn't know it as a poison song. Are you ready for a fucking mind blow? This is how my sweet Michelle, 19 years old, this is how she knows that song. It's an artist we've already heard today. We both lie silent and still in the dead of the night.

Yeah. She's got some great covers. Although we both lie close together, we feel miles apart inside. She's got some bright covers. It's earlier Miley's sound.'s why they say every rose has its song. Some shitty production on that. I'm sorry. This is like a pre wrecking ball. Post-Hannah Montana. Right. But just before

the whole wrecking ball. Yeah. Fun fact, Miley Cyrus used to live in the beaches in Toronto with her dad. Because of the show Doc. Yes. Really? Yeah. And my friend worked at Rogers. She's an apple baby the show Doc. Yes. Really? Yeah. And my friend worked at Rogers. She's an Apple baby, you know. Yes.

Thanks. Icky, breaky, and Apple baby. Yeah, exactly. So Billy Ray used to come into Rogers Video in the beaches where my friend worked with her. And he had a Rogers Video card that said Billy Ray Cyrus on it. She'd have to scan it. So forever we've known Billy Ray as a one-hit

wonder, but we can no longer say that. Because? He just had a big, massive number one hit with Lil Nas X. That's true. I mean, you can't say that. It's the same song though, isn't it? He's a big featured performer. I'm going to take my horse

to the old town road. You can't say correctly. You can can't say correctly. You can no longer say Billy Ray Sizer's One Hit Wonder. He's got two massive hits now. That's true.

It's true. So this is obviously before Miley matured and stuff. So it's a bad kind of cheesy production or whatever. The production is amazing.

My 19 year old knew this album very well and this is how she knows every rose has its thorn. But you guys, it's funny that next month we're kicking out the heavenly god

like jams or whatever because you ready for this? I'm just surfing around the web about poisons every rose has its thorn and I came across this. Yes. And it's a perfect segue to next month's

toast topic. And when you listen, you'll hear why. We're both like Simon, we still live in a state of denial. Although we both like to go to heaven, we feel surprised about the trial. But the suffering Christ did accomplish something. Oh, wow. Wow. Yes. Every crown has its thorn.

Wow. Yes. Just like every life. The Christians are being sued by Lin-Manuel Miranda, too, because of Hamilton, right? Did you know that? Yeah. They took Hamilton and turned it into a thing about Christ. Hey, music. Yeah.

This is a Christ jam. This is about Christ. Yes. But not ironically. This is like sincere Christians telling you about their king. Yeah. Christ. Every crown about Christ. Yes. But like, ironically, this is like sincere Christians telling you about their king. Yeah. Christ.

Every crown has its thorns. Every crown has its thorns. And listening to this, it's wild. Like, that we, that Bob, like the heavenly jams

and the God stuff came out. I had this all queued up. Every crown has its thorns. Yeah. We could play this next month. Man. We could,

but would we want to? That's the question. Jesus said lots of times that we should do it and he should know. But I wonder as he walked, if it ever felt like we'd. Yet I know we wouldn't be here right now. Christ took a different road than ever. So when I was at Evanov Radio Group, we had a radio station in Halifax called Live 105, and it was an alternative radio station,

but we had a commitment to play 10% Category 3 music, according to the CRTC. So Category 2 music is popular music. Category 1 is talks, news porn. Category 3 is non-popular music. So to get the license, we said, we're going to play 10% category three, which makes it specialty music, be it multicultural, be it blues. So we decided, I did not decide.

Somebody in the company decided they would play Christian rock. Try to weave 10% of the music of Christian rock into the broadcast week. So not in its own time. Well, no, we did that too. We packed Sunday mornings from 6am to like, yeah,

we packed. It was nothing but Christian rock then. Yeah. It was a bad idea. That station alone. What about Puddle of, no, no,

not Puddle of Might. I'm thinking of P.O.D. P.O.D. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're, they're Christian rock band.

And yeah, and there was talk about like, Creed being kind of, Sunday morning or whatever. I'm thinking of P.O.D. P.O.D. Yeah, yeah. They're a Christian rock band. And yeah, there was talk about Creed being kind of Sunday morning or whatever. I don't know. Was that a Christian song? Well, that's the thing. That's where you get it. And that's the interesting part when you own a radio station. When you say you're going to play a Category 3 station, there was a station in Ottawa that was trying to play Aerosmith B-cuts as blues songs.

Oh, wow. Oh, wow. That's funny. What about Evanescence? What about Evanescence? Bring Me Back to Life. Is that a Christian song? I don't think so. I don't blues songs. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's funny. What about Evanescence? What about Evanescence? Bring Me Back to Life. Is that a Christian song? I don't think so.

I don't know. I mean, it could be. This is another toast topic. There you go. Christian songs hiding in plain sight. Oh, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of those. Actually, the aforementioned Killers has been talked about.

Or Flood. Because they're more. Oh, Killers? Yeah, because he's Mormon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like a lot of his stuff has some undertones of Christianity and whatnot. Yeah.

Whose song is Flood again? 40 days, 49. There's a flood. Anyway, there's a Noah. You too. Yeah.

You know what? They were kind of a Catholic. Oh, for sure they were in the early days. Yeah. Irish Catholics.

Shout out to my people. Wow. Okay. All right, guys. This was fucking great. Remind us, Rob,

how can we see you at the El Macombo on the 20th? Well, there's tickets available online. I think next week, I heard that I might be able to get, there's like a discount code

that I think might be in the works in the air, which maybe I can even share on your FOTM group or... Oh, yeah. Well, that's a no-brainer. Yeah. How are you enjoying

the new... I know Bob doesn't participate. No, I can't be. I turn my WhatsApp notifications off. Yes, but once in a while you don't pop in to see what's going on? No, very rarely. I like it though. It's a nice transition. I like it too. Yeah, I mean... I heard Elon's going to start

capping your DMs if you're not a paying subscriber. Oh, so show death of X or whatever you want to call it. I had to vacate, but yeah, I think it's going well. It totally is. Yeah, it's a pain subscriber. So, slow death of X or whatever you want to call it. I had to vacate. But yeah, I think it's going well. It totally is. Yeah, it's a smooth transition.

The replies work better too, actually. A lot of things work better. A lot of the FOTMs are still, I saw somebody's comment the other day, their mind was blowing that they were in the same WhatsApp chat as the keyboardist from The Spoon. Because they were at the beach

and they, I forget who it was. They thought you were still in the band. That's why I wanted to reset everything because people think you're still in the spoons, but there's a different guy playing keyboards in the spoons right now. You're no longer in the spoons. But when you hear those songs from so long ago,

it's me as a child making that sound. Absolutely. Lives on. Gentlemen, can't wait to kick out the church rock with you. I don't even know. We'll talk about it afterwards. We'll talk about it. Listen for the Toronto Scoop

podcast soon. This is Rosie Gray. I was invited by Simon Head. Simon Head is a guy who directed a Lois and Lo documentary. He invited me to a backyard viewing of a one-hour documentary he put together on Shakespeare, My Butt.

Oh, cool. So it's basically Ron and Stephen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He played it in the backyard, didn't he? Yeah. And I biked over. Nice.

I had a front row seat. Wow. Amazing. And I enjoyed some popcorn. And I watched this thing. And there was like a raccoon that was threatening to wreak havoc with the viewing. Nice. It was a good time. And I had a great time camping. And I'm glad to see you two again. You too. and there was like a raccoon that was threatening to wreak havoc with the viewing. It was a good time.

And I had a great time camping, and I'm glad to see you two again. You too. And you two's a good Catholic Christian man. There you go. We'll talk about next month, but thank you, Bob Lillet, and thank you, Rob Pruce. Thank you, sir. And that brings us to the end of our 1306th show

I'm actually going to check that out in real time because I feel like Mike Richards was 1306th so let me in real time confirm the number of this episode this episode is actually yes it is 1306 these details matter just like which Hemsworth This episode is actually, yes, it is 1,306.

These details matter, just like which Hemsworth brother pissed off Miley Cyrus. You can follow me on Twitter. Two Miley songs today, by the way. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Rob is at Rob Pruse X, much like the new name of Twitter. Wait till Elon takes that back. He wants that back.

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But I wonder who I've been told that there's a sucker born every day. But I wonder who. Yeah, I wonder who. Maybe the one who doesn't realize there's a thousand shades of gray. Because I know that's true. Yes, I do. I know it's true. Yeah.

I know it's true How about you? I am picking up trash Hey, hey Ooh, ooh, ooh Needless to say, I keep a check She was a bad, bad, nevertheless Calling it quits now, baby, I'm a wreck Crash at my place, baby, I'm a wreck Needless to say, I'm keeping her check She was a bad, bad, never the least

Calling it quits now, baby, I'm a wreck Crash at my place, baby, you're a wreck Thinking in a bad way, losing your grip Screaming at my face, baby, don't trip Someone took a big L, don't know how that felt Looking at you sideways, party on tilt Ooh, certain things you just can't refuse. She wanna ride me like a cruise.

And I'm not trying to lose. Then you're left in the dust. Unless I stuck by ya. You're the sunflower. I think your love will be too much Or you'll be left in the dust Unless I stuck by ya You're the sunflower

You're the sunflower Every time I'm leaving on ya You don't make it easy, no Wish I could be there for ya Give me a reason to every time i'm walking out i can hear you telling me to turn around fighting for my trust and you won't back down even if we gotta risk it all right now i know you're scared of the unknown you don't want to be alone i know i always come and go.

But it's out of my control. And you'll be left in the dust. Unless I start fire. You're the sunflower. I think your love would be too much.