Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - TOAST 20: Toronto Mike'd #1327

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

In this 20th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out angel jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Pumpkins After... Dark, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Toast! Featuring Stu Stone, Cam Gordon, and Toronto Mike. What? That's toast. Don't deserve an intro. I guess toast. I'll make a new one. Yeah, I can make one too.
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Starting point is 00:01:53 Canada. Valuable perspective for Canadian investors who want to remain knowledgeable, informed, and focused on long-term success. And Redley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning for this 20th episode of Toast is Rob Pruce and Bob Ouellette. Welcome back, guys. Yeah. Good to see you. Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Nice to see you. Happy Sunday night. Happy Sunday night. 8 p.m. start as per Bob bob willett's writer and you're on time rob you were well timed as well my my two little ones were doing a pre-game show for the live that on the chat live chat i see that live dot toronto mic.com they did like kermit the frog impression really yeah it's gonna be way more entertaining than anything we have and i actually have in my notes welcome to the backyard but we're not in the backyard
Starting point is 00:02:44 so i really did really good though so i really but we're not in the backyard. So I really did. It looks really good though. So I really wanted to do this in the backyard. It's not raining. And I don't, it says, Environment Canada says 80% chance of rain from now till 11. Yeah. Is it really not raining? No, no.
Starting point is 00:02:57 There was a sprinkle on the gardener on the way over and that's it. Yeah. I had, I went through a sprinkle as well, but I think it's crawling along. You know what? I have 20% across the board here. Okay, well, I'm going back to my source. Okay, so it's all about, I go to Environment Canada, and I have a 24-hour thing, so I'm going there right now.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It says 80% likelihood of precipitation, yeah, from now until like 11 p.m. You know how that actually works, though? It doesn't mean it's 80% going to rain. It means that within the area you're in, there is 80 chance it could rain somewhere in there what is the humble and fred show we're going to talk about weather the whole time anyway that's why we're not in the backyard anyways it's not going to rain but that's fine the reason well the reason we were going to be in the backyard yeah is because my house has been down with the plague that's right yeah uh that's uh tuberculosis. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The black death, whatever. Okay, well, be more specific. Do you have COVID? I do not. Because you tested negative? Did you ever have symptoms? Nothing. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:53 My last Friday, so not this past Friday, my eight-year-old tested positive. She was feeling bad. She had a bad night. We tested her just to be safe and sure enough, she tested positive.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Then Monday, my wife tested positive. Then Wednesday, my 13- sure enough she tested positive. Then Monday my wife tested positive. Then Wednesday my 13 year old tested positive and as of this week now we're coming up on it'll be you know well over like 10 days since he's been in the house. I've continued to test negative every day.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Until this very night. Well it's the thing right? This is why we were going to be outside. Well that was out of an abundance of caution. An abundance of caution. With the rain I said fuck it we'll do the basement i don't think because you've never had it right rob you said that you avoided it knock on wood good for you i feel fine yeah i uh it's good you look fine thank you i have uh avoided most uh social settings to uh ensure this but you know what my uh the rules are so different now too compared to what it was it goes back to your first symptoms
Starting point is 00:04:45 and you can still actually be testing positive and go to work and school. But I'm doing neither. So I'm not testing positive and I don't have any symptoms. I'm comfortable with this decision. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I'm okay with it all. Now, here, the score
Starting point is 00:05:01 before I'm going to ask Rob for... He's got a gift for me, Rob, so I'm going to turn it to him, and then he's going to give me a review of the Dave Thomas episode of Toronto Mic'd, which he finally listened to, but the score is now 11 to 9, so Cam and Stu hosted 11 episodes of Toast,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and you guys are at 9. Is this our 9th or our 10th? This is your 9th. This is our 9th, okay. So 20th overall, you guys are at nine. But Bob, not Bob. Bob, you're way up. But Rob, that means you're at at least 11 appearances on Toronto Mike. Because you did two on your own.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. Okay. Wow. That's pretty good. The double digits. Getting there. Getting there. This couple of quick notes.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I did the Terry Fox run this morning. And a big thank you to everyone who pledged. Thank you. Don't sleep on the Bill Viggers episode. I really loved the Bill Viggers episode. He was in the van. The final tally for what we raised for the Terry Fox Foundation is $2,632. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Nice. Which is, by the way, is the fourth most raised by individuals who ran at High Park. Nice. Good for you. Congratulations. Number four. raised by individuals who ran at High Park. Nice. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Congratulations. Number four. In High Park, just for fun, in the entire country of Canada, the High Park Terry Fox run generated the eighth most. Nice. Amazing. Yeah, and there's a couple of other Toronto locations higher,
Starting point is 00:06:18 but yeah, the eighth in Canada, and then we're fourth overall amongst individuals, and I want to thank everybody. The target I set was 2,000, we blew by it and that's awesome. Congratulations. Thank you. Okay, what do you want to give me, man? Okay, so every time I come to see you guys now for nine episodes
Starting point is 00:06:35 or however many, I always have this little stand. Nine, I just said it. You forgot already? And I wanted to give you guys these little stands because I'm spreading the word on how much I'm in love with these little stands. Foldable stands for your phone. look hey that's a practical gift i like it it's a practical gift it's beautiful my sister's the one that started using them and then i got obsessed with them and i bought one for my wife and i've got an extra and i bring it with me like everywhere because like even at my gigs i keep it on top of my keyboard yeah because it's like this and it's
Starting point is 00:07:00 well it's almost like what you would put in your dash for your but but on your desktop come on now you need to try it out. Yeah, I'm going to right now. Because I feel like you're going to be a convert as well. Oh, absolutely. I like spreading the goodness. Okay, so I don't...
Starting point is 00:07:09 How do you do it? So that side goes on the bottom. Like this? Nope. No. Like that? Right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Okay, okay, okay, everybody. There we go. Look at that. Here, I think... Your phone goes there? It goes up and down. You can do it up. You can do it...
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's got a boomy thing. You can put it in which way. Yeah, this is great. Thank you. But now see, for referring to your phone at any place, then your hand's... It's right there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to... This man comes bearing gifts. Yeah, this is great. Thank you. But see, for referring to your phone at any place, then your hand's preferred.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It's right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to. This man comes bearing gifts. Yeah, thank you so much. It's made by this company called Memicall, and I don't know who they are, but I ordered them on Amazon, and I'm just a huge fan of them. Well, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:07:34 We might try to get a sponsorship for Toronto Mike. There you go. That's very kind. Thank you. It pairs nicely with those Minera speakers, I would say. Those are good little speakers, man. They got some good sound to them. Well, they're going to be back.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Shout out to the cuddly one, Al Grego. The box hands. The box hands. Yeah, decent sound for such a little one. Okay, so I've got notes. I want to ask you each about something, but Rob Pruess, because you came in the door and you said, I finally listened to Dave Thomas. What are your thoughts on that? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:08:00 How long ago did you do that episode? Well, it was in the best of, so it was sometime between 1000 and twelve fifty. Okay, that's right. I wasn't paying attention to the date, but I had been so excited to finally listen to it, so when I drove up a few days ago, I put it on. It might have been a year ago. Is it? Yeah. God, it was good.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It was just overall entertaining, and I mean, he's just got a great Canadian cultural history and the story to tell anyways, but I thought you engaged with him so well, and the whole just the story of his life and his and all the impressions, he anyways, but I thought you engaged with him so well and the whole just the story of his life and his and all the impressions he just, I mean, he's just like bust into those things naturally, right? The Bob
Starting point is 00:08:32 Hope impression and even the Max Monsito impression, you know? You know what? Looking back, it's like, did that really happen? Did that happen? It's amazing when you have those moments in your career. You're like, that's crazy. You must have so many of them, Rob. I was in the studio with and all that. Yeah, same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I get it. I'm very fortunate, and Mike is too. He gets to do these things. And you realize that they're all just like normal people, but then you think about the things that you know them from before you knew them, and it's kind of freaky. Like, I love that. Yeah, it's really cool. Super cool. But yeah, congratulations on the Dave Thomas.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Thank you very much. Thank you, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Note for Bob, but just before that, today I watched the Play the Record documentary. Did you ever see that? I haven't watched it. No, I've heard it's terrific. It's on Prime right now. So I watched the whole thing. It's called Drop the Needle. If you're on Prime, looking for
Starting point is 00:09:19 it. Like, there's lots of FOTMs in this thing. Plenty of them. DJ Ron Nelson, Maestro Fresh West Danny O Mastermind DJ Stunning From Scratch all these cats whatever
Starting point is 00:09:29 but there's a shot of this guy DJ Grouch whose real name is Oscar Betancourt and I went to high school with this guy and I bought a mixtape
Starting point is 00:09:38 off him in grade 10 and I'm certain it's in I kept some cassettes and I'm certain I kept it it's a customized mixtape that I paid him for in 1990 I'm certain i kept it it's a customized mix tape that
Starting point is 00:09:45 i paid him for in 1990 i'm gonna dig it up yeah for sure on the show absolutely i guess i i don't know i'm not as cool as you guys i didn't know dj grouch was a big fucking deal but uh he's been at that since high school so i know this guy there you go and you get the name grouch he's a really nice guy that'll be my first question and Oscar Betancourt comes on Toronto Mike. So I did tweet at Rob Freeman, who I met at a David Kine's Hollywood Suite event last week. I met Rob Freeman
Starting point is 00:10:13 who directed Drop the Needle. And I met him because Retro Ontario introduced me to Rob and then I was tweeting with him tonight and he did a good job on this doc. So this is a big week of docs for me because I'm going to be at the Rivoli on Wednesday for the lowest of the low docs, subversives. And then I'm at Roy Thompson Hall on Friday
Starting point is 00:10:30 for the Much Music documentary, Tonight Night Game. Okay, and a note for Bob Ouellette. We're burning through some notes here, but I met somebody for the first time yesterday. I saw that in person. Oh, yes, I should say that in person. Yeah, in person.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah, I had the fortune to introduce the two of you, I should say that in person. I had the fortune to introduce the two of you, I believe. One, Mary Jo Eustace. First time in person. I've never met her in person. She hates Toronto, but she was in town to visit
Starting point is 00:10:59 her parents. We met for a Starbucks coffee in Yorkville. Had a great chat. Bob, what I want to do is I want to do a little Zoom or something with you parents and we met for a, like a Starbucks coffee in Yorkville, had a great chat. Yes. And Bob, what I want to do is I want to do like a little zoom or something with you, MJ and I, and a fourth person who was at the station,
Starting point is 00:11:12 just a little chatter about what was proud FM, like what it was supposed to be. Where did it work? Where did it maybe come short? And like, what does it mean that all of a sudden there's no proud FM? I know. I was thinking about, uh, you know, the beginning of the show when we do toast we often go through people who have
Starting point is 00:11:28 died and i was wondering if proud fm would make the list of things that have died and yeah that station which i ran for about eight years or so uh is gone and it's gone forever well no thankfully uh it it lasted quite a while after me it was a you know if i it was a mere shadow of itself but it was there and uh yeah the company decided to just shut her right down no i i actually would like to do i'm happy to do one with you but i've i've been thinking about contacting a bunch of people and throwing together kind of like what you did with martin streak like throwing together a uh like a compilation episode which I've never done on my podcast. Well, we could do two for like record a bunch of us.
Starting point is 00:12:07 We could. We could both use it. And we can do our things. Yeah, that's true. We could do that. Absolutely. And it'd be like, yeah, you do. You put your Bob spin on it.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I put my Toronto. I think that'll be fun. I'd love to do that. Okay. So yeah. So because MJ is on board. I talked to her yesterday. Oh yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:12:20 She'll slam that place. No problem. She knew she was in trouble when she couldn't get the station in the parking lot. Oh, funny. Yes. It was an issue.
Starting point is 00:12:27 That was an issue. Should we have a beer? I'm thirsty. Okay, so let's crack open the beer. All right. Thank you to Great Lakes. I'm having my usual, the Great Lakes Lager.
Starting point is 00:12:35 What's this? Tank 10. Oh, okay. So you could have that or a pale ale. I'm going to take the Tank 10 because I don't know what it is. Okay, well,
Starting point is 00:12:40 let's put it on the mic. It's an IPA. One, two. Thank you, Great Lakes. They're great people. They hosted TMLX 13. Bob, where were you that day? You were in that TMLX 13.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That was the beginning of the pandemic in my house. It was right around that same time. When you entered the Ronaverse? Something like that. Yeah, again. Yeah, we've been through it. The funny thing is, you know, when I... I've told this story.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I think I told the story on this show. I know I've told the story, but, you know, when the funny thing is that when you know when i i've told the story i think i told the story on this show i know i have i've told the story but you know when the whole thing started way back when in march of 19 19 was it or 20 1920 yeah 1920 uh yeah uh march 13th 2020 that's right so i was in cuba and yeah yeah we were in cuba for the march break with the kids and family and we came back and it was like this whole thing. It was very, very nerve wracking being down there. And we come back and just by being out of the country, we had to isolate for 14 days. And then within those 14 days, I got a fever. Did you?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yes. So then I walked up from my house to East General Hospital, Michael Garron Hospital in East York. And it was like this scene out of a breakout movie where there was like things were painted on the walls like arrows because they weren't ready for it. And they had
Starting point is 00:13:58 not a word of a lie, like plywood all around and everybody was in hazmat suits and you go in, they tell you everything you see they see you they sit you down you wait all the everybody's 40 feet away from each other and you walk in I remember when I finally went into the like the actual
Starting point is 00:14:13 examination room yeah I shit you not it was a solo chair with a red square around it with like one light on it and you sat there and they came in all in there like're like, so we've looked at everything you've said. You do have a fever. You're a presumptive case.
Starting point is 00:14:30 They didn't even test me. Yeah. And then I had to live in my basement away from my family. My wife was feeding me through the doggy door. Did they even have tests back then? Yeah, I guess they did. I don't know, but I was told I was a presumptive case. Early days. Okay. Yeah, 14 days in my basement. Yeah. Wow. Isn't it nice to recall those days?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Oh, yeah. Just three years ago, three and a half years ago. Do you have nostalgia for the lockdown? Yeah, I remember those days. That's called the... Stockholm Syndrome. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Oh, man. All right, nobody chose this jam, but I want to introduce now the topic and then a couple more quick hits. But, I mean, I think we all... I don't know. I'm going to speak for myself, but I know this song best
Starting point is 00:15:03 from Back to the Future. Me too. Yes. For sure. For sure. If you know it from anything else, you're older. Do you know the band that's playing this version I'm playing right now, the hit? Nope.
Starting point is 00:15:16 The Penguins. Oh, well. Penguins. Are they from Pittsburgh? Oh, very nice. Look at you with the hockey joke. When did you get funny? Never. When did you get into sports? Just a couple years ago. Oh, very nice. Look at you and the hockey joke. When did you get funny? Never.
Starting point is 00:15:25 When did you get into sports? Just a couple years ago. Oh, yeah? Nice. It's only hockey for me. Oh, he's got a relative in the NHL. Is that where it happened? Oh, do you?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Oh, nice. Shout him out. My nephew, Nico Dawes, plays for the New Jersey Devils. Oh, amazing. Nice. Goalie. He's goalie. Wow, great.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Amazing. That's a tough ride. Yeah. He's with Utica. He's been down in New Jersey a bunch of times, but he's in Utica. He's a tough ride yeah he's with Utica he's been down in New Jersey a bunch of times but he's in Utica he's 22
Starting point is 00:15:48 he's 22 played in the AHL got drafted a couple years ago still amazing so we're gonna kick out Angel Jams do you guys remember how this came about
Starting point is 00:15:55 we were sitting here and we were talking about God Jams because I played Every Rose Has Its Thorns the parody about God right
Starting point is 00:16:03 that was it and then we said we should kick out God Jams, and then I think it morphed into Angel Jam. We got into something more specific because we didn't want another Brendan Flowers situation. That's right. Well, you're a shit disturber on that one here.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Okay, so congrats to Bob's Basement for the filter episode. Oh, thank you. What was the reaction to that? Good, you know, it was short. It was only 30 minutes. That's all I had with them, you know, dealing with publicists and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:16:24 But it was very nice. I'm all I had with them, you know, dealing with publicists and whatnot, but it was very nice. I'm a, I'm a fan that band, you know, Richard's got a really interesting past. I didn't ask about his brother. Yeah. Richard Patrick.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So did like, is that because you just didn't want to bug him about his brother? More or less? Yeah. Like I wanted to talk to him. I only had 30 minutes. So I wanted to talk to him about the music. I really wanted to touch on his sobriety.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I wanted to touch on how vocal he was about Scott Weiland's lack of sobriety from Stone Temple Pilots. I really wanted to get those things in. And I wanted to talk about what it's like to write a song like Take a Picture when all your other stuff is so heavy and hard. Like, hey man, nice shot.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I wanted to talk to him about remixes, working with the Crystal Method, doing Trip Like I Do, and ask him how... There's so many people that... When we were doing the live dairs with Martin Streak and DJ Dwight, we played all kinds of remixes of Filter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And I asked him how he felt about that as an artist. Those are the kind of questions I like, because I try to angle it with change and everything. Yeah. So talking about his brother being a Hollywood guy, if I had an hour, I would have. Yeah. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Okay. Well, well done there. And you, Rob Pruce, you played the El Macombo. Yes. How did that show go? It went very well. It was a lot of fun. It was cool to play there. It's a big glitzy place now. Did you deal with Mike Shalhoub at all? Nope. No, he's like a manager there. He does... He's like... I don't know what he does. He used to be on Proud
Starting point is 00:17:41 FM, actually. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. He's like a host there. No, there's people who run the place, like Great Sound and Lighting Guys, and we booked it through Michael Weckerle. Of course, yeah. But it was a lot of fun. Have you had Weck on? Have you had Weckerle on?
Starting point is 00:17:54 No. No, he's been on my podcast. Oh, yeah. Oh, I got to go listen to that. Yeah, yeah. He's nuts. Yeah, but it was fun to play there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It's not the old El Macombo at all. And I guess the funny thing is like if you play the elmo combo now and you're like i'm playing this classic place it's not really not at all like it at all no it's in the same building that's it and the sign is the same but you come in and it's like literally the las vegas version of what i was gonna ask you because kurt swinghammer is an fotm and so he played with you yeah he came did a couple songs with me yeah so he went on facebook and kind of shit all over the Elmo for taking all the character out of the place.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Like you said, other than the logo. No, it's completely different. So is it like a history vibe now? I've never been to history, but I've heard that it is like maybe a little bit more in that direction. Yeah, like you don't go in there expecting the Rivoli or the Phoenix
Starting point is 00:18:43 or don't go in there expecting... Sneaky D's phoenix or don't go in there expecting it's an or sneaky no no nothing like that or yeah um uh dance cave up above sneaky d's there or uh above uh lee's but at least palace like it's not that it is it's a newer venue look if you go there knowing that hey they took this building they kept them skeleton yeah and you know what it is what it is it is what it is and i think it's a great space and actually it's a great space to see a show it's just not the alma como no but what's It is what it is. It is what it is and I think it's a great space. And actually, it's a great space to see a show. It's just not the Alma Combo. No,
Starting point is 00:19:08 but what's cool is I think going forward now, as long as it keeps running for years and years and years, it's going to maintain that. It'll get it again, but it's got a fantastic sound system. It's got a fantastic lighting.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Like, technically, it's magic. Like, it's a dream place for a band to play, but it's just, it's not really the El Macombo.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I mean... Not even close. What do we got going on here? Okay, so Jane Sibury, who's an FOTM now, she has a jam, a big jam called Calling All Angels, and I did not choose it, but I thought I'd play it. I thought I'd feature it off the top because it would be fun to play some Jane Sibury.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I liked your Jane episode, too. I did, too. It's a littleibury. I liked your Jane episode too. I did too. Yeah. You know, it's a little polarizing. Some people leave that episode not digging Jane. I was going to send you a message about her because I spent an afternoon with her once. How did that go? 20 years ago in New York. It was good. Back in the old MySpace days, I sent her a message. Like, I don't remember how we got in touch.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Wow. And I just like reached out to her and she wrote me back and I said, well, I was in the spoons, blah, blah, blah. And I said, you know, if you're ever in New York and you want to go meet for coffee or something, let me know. And she totally did. So we spent an afternoon on the... This is when she was called. She was in her Issa phase. I think she's going back to Issa. Is she? She's hinting at it. Issa come, Issa go.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Issa come. Little high, little low. I saw, real quick, there's an actress named Issa and then I thought about or I just saw her in Barbie. I was so completely underwhelmed by Barbie, but I avoided all the hype about Barbie because people seemed to be loving Barbie and it made a billion dollars or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I thought it was okay. Maybe it was okay. Nothing special. I was really underwhelmed by it. It was fine. It was fine. I don't think it was... Look, I think it's not as progressive as people think it is. I don't think it's as good for...
Starting point is 00:20:46 It might be the opposite. I mean, if you really pay attention, some of those messages, the only way they have to get the guys to forget to vote or whatever. You get the America Ferrera, her big speech there is really good. But beyond that, it's reinforcing.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's making fun of, but it's reinforcing all the things that Barbie was kind of... Issa Rae is the actress. Issa Rae, right. She's like a comedian or something. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She had a big HBO show.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yeah. For sure. Okay. So Jane and you had coffee. We hung out for an afternoon. We went to an art museum and hung around. That's kind of like a reality show waiting to happen. I think Rob and Jane hanging out.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Did you drop any fun facts on her? No, nothing. She was very quiet. of a like a reality show waiting to happen i think rob and uh jane like hanging out did yeah did you drop any fun facts on her no nothing she was very quiet you know yeah yeah all right interesting okay okay i'm all fascinated with everyone send in your jane sibery uh stories okay anything else rocking and rolling i'm thinking uh if you guys have anything else you want to share now is the time did Did we do deaths? Did we talk about Jimmy Buffett? I mean I felt too young for Jimmy's. Jimmy Buffett didn't resonate with me
Starting point is 00:21:52 but everybody knows Margaritaville for sure. Everybody knows that song. Children know that song. I was like oh that's sad to hear that. I was sad because he was only 75. He was young. And Gary Wright died not long after that as well. And we all know him
Starting point is 00:22:08 from Wayne's World. I knew him from the radio when I was 11. I played Dreamweaver in a band when I was 11. I bet you did. Because it was all the synthesizers. Does he have a second hit? Love is Alive. Okay, see, I did not know that. I mean, really, those were the two big ones off the first album. Okay, because
Starting point is 00:22:24 that's a great scene in Wayne's World. I really loved Wayne's World. So Wayne's World. That was huge. Wayne's World was massive for me. I have the Wayne's World book. Do you? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, I can remember being, whatever, 14 when it came. Hilarious. Like, reading. There's a connection between Wayne's World and, I mentioned the 299 Queen Street doc. Yes. But there's a connection because Wayne Campbell debuts on Christopher Ward's City Limits. That's right. Yes. And now you know the rest is right. Okay, there's a question from Cam Brio on the
Starting point is 00:22:49 live stream. Are you touring with Burlington Silverstein? Me? Well, this is what he said. Cam, if this is some bullshit thing, don't waste my time. Is this Silverstein? No. He's not going to tour with them. I'm just reading the questions here. Don't waste my time. I'm banning him, just like I banned Levi F time. You know what? I'm banning him.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Just like I banned Levi Fumka as a judge. Cambrio questions. When I did the gig in Burlington on Canada Day, they played as well because they're a Burlington band. And so we shared the stage, but not at the exact same time.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I don't even know Silverstein. Should I know Silverstein? I know Silverchair. Australian, not from Burlington. No. That's right. Burlington zone.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Okay. Anyone else die? I actually forgot to collect the No. That's right. Burlington's own. Okay. Anyone else die? I actually forgot to collect the deaths. That's all right. You know, this is an Angels episode, so it's going to be all about deaths. Okay. Death is all around us. Death is all around us.
Starting point is 00:23:36 All right. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to shout out a few partners, and we're going to get to the jams, because people come here for the jams. You guys know that here. So, we've already given much love to Great Lakes Brewery because we're drinking fine craft beer from GLB. Palma Pasta, they're hosting us at TMLX 14.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I don't know if you're in town, Rob Pruess. Yeah, what's the date? December? Nine at noon. I'm thinking about it. Yeah, if you're there, that's amazing. And I think Bob Willett should be there as well. December 9th?
Starting point is 00:24:06 I can try to make that happen. Just put that in the calendar. What day of the week is that? It's a Saturday. Okay. December 9 at noon at Palma's Kitchen. That's one of their four locations and they're just amazing. Shout out to Palma Pasta. Okay, recyclemyelectronics.ca is where you go to find out where you can drop off your old electronics,
Starting point is 00:24:22 your old tech, because they have accredited recycling depots. You drop off your old electronics, your old tech, because they have accredited recycling depots. You drop off your old electronics and it's properly recycled and those chemicals don't end up in landfill. So shout out to recyclemyelectronics.ca. Raymond James Canada has a great podcast called The Advantaged Investor. And if you want valuable perspective and wish to remain knowledgeable, informed, and focused on long-term success, I strongly advise you to subscribe to The Advantaged Investor
Starting point is 00:24:50 from Raymond James Canada. And of course, we shout out Ridley Funeral Home. Life's undertaking is... What are you doing? Yeah, because I was going to... No, I was going to say, are we saying RIP to the Toronto Star?
Starting point is 00:25:07 And on Metroland? It's not the Star, right? No, but the Star also has... The Toronto Star has filed for bankruptcy protection. Is it really? I don't think so. Yeah. Breaking news.
Starting point is 00:25:21 They have the two arms there, right? Hang on. Toronto Star. I think it's Metroland. No, sir. Watch. In the news. They have the two arms there, right? Hang on. Toronto Star. I think it's Metroland. No, sir. Watch. In the news. Hang on here.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Toronto Star owner cutting 600 jobs at regional player. But the owner owns just two things. The owner owns one of which is a star, which is not filing, and then the one with the Metroland papers. No, but still. Slippery slope. Slippery slope. That's my point.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah. This is the beginning of the end. I see what you're saying. As a person who's working for a company who's trading at $1.11 right now, trust me, I know about a slippery slope. You're reading between the lines. Oh, my God. Don't even get me started.
Starting point is 00:25:52 All right. I just want to get our facts right here on Toronto, Mike. People come here for the facts. You know that. Okay. So, yeah, but the Metroland, I mean, the Etobicoke Guardian is our local community paper. Yeah, Burlington papers are getting screwed as well.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, it's just weird. And the Mississauga. Yeah, Mississauga. What's the Mississauga papers are getting screwed as well. It's just weird. And the Mississauga. Yeah, Mississauga. What's the Mississauga? That was their only newspaper. It's gone. The Mississauga Choo Choo or something? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm going to just make up names for all the cities. What is the name of the Mississauga? I don't know. They have these contests, and I stuffed the ballot box for Palma Pasta to win best food place in Mississauga. It's called, I'm going to have a name for this in two seconds here.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's called... I've got no fucking... Anybody know what the fuck is this place called? I have no idea. Mississauga News. What a name. This is the furthest west I come at all. I don't go past here. The Mississauga News. I stop at the 427. You're almost in Hamilton right now. Yeah, except for me. I might as well be. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Do you guys want to get to some jams? Let's do it. I don't remember anymore what order we're in, so I'm going to play this jam and then whoever's to some jams? Let's do it. I don't remember anymore like what order we're in. So I'm going to play this jam and then whoever's jam it is is going to talk about it. Okay. This is how we're rolling. Okay. I'm really prepared. Apparently.
Starting point is 00:26:52 All right. Sunday night's a bad night. Also, I'm actually overheating. I'm going to have to take off my hoodie. You're going to take your sweater off. I am so fucking hot. Oh, yes, you are. Is Todd going to have a shirt underneath that hoodie?
Starting point is 00:27:01 No, no, he doesn't. I'll go topless. I don't give a shit. But I mean, if the one of your Tarps off, boys. Tarps off. Here we go. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:10 What song am I playing? You guys find out when I find out. Okay. This is me. Oh, you called it right away. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Name that tune and how many. I can tell you the title. Don't tell me. Rob, can you you the title don't tell me well rob can you name the title not yet you named the band oh yeah yeah i almost chose this and i'm glad i didn't yeah because you chose it it's a massive song it is a massive song there's a lot of big angel jams i want to say. The big universe. Better than God jams. The bass on these recordings is so good.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So good. Actually, can I get a little bit more volume in my headset, please? Like Jay-Z? Turn it up. One, two. That's me. Yep. Thank you. Ah, there we go. Worried about your hearing, Bob. Oh, don't worry. So is my wife.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Pardon? You worked on Broadway and never got COVID, Rob. Never did. Had to play Phantom of the Opera wearing a mask sometimes. It was weird. Sort of the Phantom. Yeah, I know. Well, he wore it all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Like every show, he had a mask on. He didn't. Are my intentions Come from way above To bring me love To bring me love Her eyes She's on the dark side Mutual life Every man inside Yeah. We've gone a long time
Starting point is 00:29:32 without saying anything. I love it. It's such a good song. It's so cool. This is Massive Attack. Angel from Mezzanine came out in 98. That trip-hop era
Starting point is 00:29:42 was so cool, man. 25 years ago. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. You know-hop era was so cool, man. 25 years ago. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. You know, like Portishead, Tricky. There's some unbelievable trip-hop bands going on out there. And we were playing them on the Edge.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Were you? Yeah, on Edge 102. Somebody, I know, I was reading your hat. Oh, you're reading my hat. Yeah. Oh, it's a tragedy hip hat. You were looking at the stairs. Is Alan Cross coming down? No, I don't know. Why are you looking behind me? Freaking me out, man. I was was reading your hat. Oh, you're reading my hat. It's a tragedy hip hat. You were looking at the stairs. Is Alan Cross coming?
Starting point is 00:30:06 No, I don't know. Why are you looking behind me? Freaking me out, man. I was looking at your hat. We're doing a whole show on angels. If you wear a fucking hat with words on it, people are going to want to read it. I know, but you know.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's a tragedy hip hat. It's not a massive attack hat. Angels. So this comes out. But I don't... Did CFNY play Angel? We did on the live to airs on, at the very beginning of the night. So the live to airs would be Friday nights from the Kingdom, 1400 Plains Road East in
Starting point is 00:30:34 Burlington. And we would go from nine until 10. There would be commercials still. And we would also do Club 102 Saturday nights from 410 Sherbourne Street, Phoenix Constant Theater. And there would still be commercials. So I was the on-site producer. So I was playing all of the IDs over the songs that the DJ was playing.
Starting point is 00:30:54 And then I was also turning Martin's mic off and on for just to air, not in the club. Yeah, yeah. So we would come back or exit with songs with long intros or extras we looped sometimes feels like something i would have heard at that time in the between nine and ten this is perfect that ambiance it's a great uh pre-drinking song right um obviously teardrop was the biggest hit off this album but uh it was this was a unbelievable album yeah there's a couple i've got uh you know uh you would have known this,
Starting point is 00:31:25 this was in Snatch, the movie. This is on the Snatch soundtrack. This was featured on... Did you watch Snatch with closed captions or without? I watched it in the theater,
Starting point is 00:31:34 so there are no closed captions on that. So you missed half the movie. No, no, I got it, I got it. It was also featured on West Wing. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And yeah, a bunch of different shows and it's been licensed a bunch. It was in featured on West Wing. Oh, cool. And yeah, a bunch of different shows. It's been licensed a bunch. It was in an Adidas commercial back in the day. What got me about this is when I found out who's the vocals. I don't know who the vocals are. Do you know, Rob? Nope.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Well, I do. And it's a guy by the name of Horace Andy. It's a reggae artist from Jamaica. This is a man's voice. Yes. So, first of all, by the way, it also contains a sample from the incredible bongo band. Really? This song does.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah, it's called The Last Bongo in Belgium, which I don't have. I didn't put that as my mind blow, but my mind blow is, so last summer, Luminato, who does some great programming here in Toronto for the Arts Festival, they did a whole bunch, two or three days of shows down at Woodbine Park down the street from my house. I could walk there. And one of the days, Horace Andy played
Starting point is 00:32:40 there. Really? Yes. He came in with a local, and I can't remember their name. They're so good. They're like a world-renowned, known Toronto based reggae band. Okay. And I can't remember their name. The Satellites. No, not the Satellites. Messenger. Nope. Neither of those. But it's a bunch of really, really, they're all like
Starting point is 00:32:56 session guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they play along and Horace comes in and he plays with them. That's cool. And a bunch of these guys, the dance hall guys, they all come in with no band. And he's singing this on this. And he sings this. That's really cool. So here, this is, the Mind Blow is one of horace andy's biggest reggae hits and it's the same guy who does that that's not pitched up okay yeah when you say so you but you didn't send me anything to play yes i did how did you send it though in that first email i said here's my mind blow but there's no link like i took all okay okay well hold on i'm gonna find on youtube i'm gonna find okay give me
Starting point is 00:33:24 two seconds no because i am because you said you literally emailed me back and said now you're getting the mind blows i am positive i sent it to you all right okay okay i remember i'm playing his name from if you're on the live stream you might not i have it here i have it here we have to edit this no no there you go oh okay There you go. Oh. Okay. And that's an angel song too.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You are my angel. Find out the name of that Toronto reggae band. Oh, you know what? You're right. I didn't send you links. I apologize. So I got you know what? You're right. I didn't send you links. I apologize. So I got you lost because there were no links. I figured you could figure it out.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I know, but I thought you might just be verbally saying these fun things. No, I wanted to hear this. All right, we're going to be fine. All right, good. So Horace Andy. Yes, this is the same vocals.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's a mind blow. It's a good one. I don't know if Jane Sibury would like it, but I appreciate it. Okay, yeah, and I'm reading the comments and talking about how I never, this person wrote, I never knew Angel was a cover. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:32 By the original singer, but a cover nonetheless. Yes. Mind-blowing. It says in the comments? Or did you say that? No, Gavin Hewitt in the comments. Oh, very good. Three years ago, his mind was blown by this.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Okay, amazing. I apologize. I didn't send links. This is good, though, because blown by this. Okay, amazing. I apologize. I didn't send links. This is good, though, because now I want to know more about Horace Andy. Horace Andy's amazing. He was so good.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm just reading that he's done work with Adrian Sherwood as well, like good remixing and stuff. Unbelievable. Yeah, so it's amazing that this man, and he's now in his 70s,
Starting point is 00:34:57 he still has this high-pitched voice. That's cool. It's amazing. So there you go. That's our first Angel track. Angel, Massive Attack. I apologize for not
Starting point is 00:35:04 sending you the links. Angel. And a bonus Angel track, You track. Angel, Massive Attack. I apologize for not sending you the links. Angel. And a bonus angel track, You Are My Angel, Horace Andy. Yeah. Amazing. Okay. You know what? I might have actually loaded up the fun facts, and I just couldn't see it in my blog.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I actually... So this is the same song, right? Okay. So I actually did... You did have it. Okay. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Okay. So you did. I'm apologize. I'm off my game today. You're a little off today. All right. Do you think I'm off my game today. You're a little off today. Do you need a shoulder rub or something? It's because you did the run this morning. I'm tired, baby. I'm a little punchy here.
Starting point is 00:35:33 By the way, let's tell the world, Rob, and then Bob, I want to comment on your t-shirts real quick here. So Rob, you're wearing a hoodie, the hilarious house of Freidenstein. I feel like you've worn that here before. I probably have. It's a great hoodie. When I get a little chilly and I need one hoodie to bring with me, hilarious house of Freidenstein. I feel like you've worn that here before. I probably have. It's a great hoodie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, when I'm getting a little chilly and I need one hoodie to bring with me, I'm like, Oh, it's very good. Freidenstein. And what do you got there, Bob? What are you sporting today? I want to talk to Bob about this. Bob, you and Blind Derek are the two biggest Argos fans I know. Any truth to the rumor that you might start a Toronto Argonaut podcast?
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, it's funny. My cousin said to me the other day, because I'm not doing any on air on radio right now. There's a lot going on. And I have the podcast, which I still love doing. But he said, why don't you do an Argo podcast? Because I do love the Argos. I had Caesars tickets when I was 15 years old with my own money. I've always loved the team.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I'll admit it's gone in ebbs and flows. But generally speaking, and I've posted about it just the other day, they're a team that I can always count on. Even when they're in the dumps, I can go and have a good time, an affordable good time. So this is my classic. This was,
Starting point is 00:36:35 I can't remember the name of the company that put this one out, but it's just a straight-ahead Argos shirt. It's very simple. It just says Argos, and it's black with the logo on it. No logo, just the white print on black
Starting point is 00:36:48 t-shirt. And the Argos are having a great year. 11-1. They have never in their 150 years of existence 150? They have been around for 150 years if you include rugby. Going all the way back from the rowing club that played rugby. As of November, they'll be 150 years
Starting point is 00:37:04 old. They have never been they'll be 150 years old. They have never been 11-1 in any season. So it's remarkable. They're so much fun to watch. Even if they lose, I've said this the last few times, in my lifetime, they're the most successful Toronto's franchise when it comes to wins and losses by far in my lifetime. And I've only seen them lose the Grey Cup once.
Starting point is 00:37:23 In 87, they lost. They won in 83. I think they lost in 82, but I wasn't really old enough to remember that. And then since then, they've won like six or seven or something. And they're just fun, man. They're just fun to watch. Rob, any interest in football? They play football, right?
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's a football team. That is football, yes. No, I only watch hockey. Although when I come and stay at my sister's place, my brother-in-law watches every sport that's available. He was watching rugby. Yeah, but like... Oh, watching rugby There's a huge rugby tournament going on right now I was watching that yesterday It was amazing, it was interesting
Starting point is 00:37:50 My best friend, Jose, he's a rugby guy He played a lot, he refereed He's done a whole bunch It's a great sport I was experimenting with chat GPT yesterday Trying to come up with a sport that combines hockey and rugby together And I should read you some of my We were talking about all that It's helping me come up with a sport that combines hockey and rugby together and I should read you some of my
Starting point is 00:38:05 we were talking about all that it's helping me come up with a new sport I love it I love it it's good you see your time this drop the needle
Starting point is 00:38:13 documentary and this was another similar to the CFNY doc which is still in production they'll come out next year but another doc that was desperately searching for
Starting point is 00:38:22 Chris Shepard to participate because Shep was buying a lot of his albums at Play to Record, and they have old footage of Shepard in this thing, and you can tell he's missing in action. I know the guys from the CFNY doc are looking for him. I've been looking for him. It's kind of interesting that we can't find him.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Should we make a documentary about finding Chris Shepard? Searching for Shep. Yeah, well, that's the natural, because there's a lot of people right now. Bikes of skill, baby. Bikes of skill, baby. Bikes of skill. Is he hiding in plain sight? Has he just decided he wants to be off the grid? Is he okay?
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's kind of a bunch of interesting questions because he's really disappeared. Off the grid. You want it to be done by 10 and we've only done one song. We're doing good now. Are we doing good okay. You want it to be done by 10, and we've only done one song. No, we're doing good now. Are we doing good now?
Starting point is 00:39:08 We're doing well. Okay, you ready, Rob Pruce? I'm ready. Shout out to Dana Levinson on a Sunday night. Ooh, hit the post, too. That's a good one. I forgot about this. It hit right in my head. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah. Oh. This takes me back, man. I forgot about this one. Ooh, you're an angel Ooh, you're an angel Ooh, you're an angel In the skies I can see it in your eyes So this is Madonna Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:14 What album? Like a Virgin Yeah This was the third single I was going to say like third or fourth single has to be It was a top five still
Starting point is 00:40:21 around the world and apparently originally she wanted it to be the first single. And then she finished Like a Virgin and she's like, she finished the song Like a Virgin. She's like, hang on. This is going to be the first single. But it's a great song. Co-written Madonna and Stephen
Starting point is 00:40:33 Bray wrote it, which they co-wrote a bunch of the songs on the album. I love this album, Like a Virgin. I had the cassette and I fucking loved it. Produced by Nile Rodgers, my friend Nile. He did this right after we did Talk Back in Romantic Traffic. Amazing. So a lot of the musicians on this song were like our... Your session guys?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah, the guys singing on this record with Madonna sang on Romantic Traffic. That's amazing. Isn't it amazing as the radio guy here, like isn't it shitty that my industry has just forgotten about this song? Like you don't hear this on the radio. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Okay, so boom won't boom. I've never... Hey, look. Wayne Webster is the greatest music director. He's an FOTM. He's amazing. Yeah. But I would imagine that I feel like
Starting point is 00:41:15 this has slipped through the cracks. They need to go to the second level. They're going to play like a virgin. Yeah. They play like a virgin. What was the other one? Crazy for you? The one, the Diamonds one.
Starting point is 00:41:24 The... Material Girl. Material Girl. Right. They'll play play off from that era yeah but this never made and they'll play cherish from the later albums and express yourself like a prayer all that but this is a great song that boom nobody plays this no there's i gotta go put this in my playlist and all that good yeah this doesn't pop star mad Madonna was. I know she's still at it. Just unbelievable. But it's a great song. It's a nice, simple pop song.
Starting point is 00:41:50 No, it's so good. And it's an angel. Good job, Mr. Bruce. And there's no dispute. I don't have anything to get angry about. I'm ready to go off, so I'm hoping one of you fucks up on this. Oh, I will. My last one will probably make you angry.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Oh, boy. Oh, yeah. Okay, any fun facts or mind blows? Nothing too good. How about mind blows? The guys who are singing in the background sang on your X-T. That's a fucking mind blow. Can you name those people? The Sims brothers. Yeah, they're
Starting point is 00:42:15 two brothers. I forget. Frank and George Sims, I believe. Because, you know, when I told Bob, you're getting the hang of it. This is your pep talk here. This is your ninth appearance on Toast. Yeah. Because, you know, when I told Bob, you're getting the hang of it. This is your pep talk here. Yeah. This is your ninth appearance on Toast, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah, the song. It's a good song. It satisfies the requirement. Yeah, yeah. You know, and that is a mind blow into itself, right? But you got to bring that
Starting point is 00:42:35 something, something. Something extra special. Well, I think I told you, I don't know if we had the conversation on or off the air about the mind blows last time, but I was like, for me, if it's on Wikipedia,
Starting point is 00:42:43 it's not a mind blow. Anybody can see it. But that being said, maybe. Well, that's not fair. That's not fair. You can have mind blows last time, but I was like, for me, if it's on Wikipedia, it's not a mind blow. Anybody can see it. But that being said, maybe... Well, that's not fair. That's not fair. You can have mind blows that are on Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:42:49 No, no, I understand because that's how Stu Stone prepares for everything. It's just Wikipedia when Stu's on. Yeah, I know. I'm taking shots at Stu. But there's an extra level
Starting point is 00:42:56 of mind blow. Am I wrong? I love Stu. So can I tell you, the famous mind blow that Jane Sibury was unimpressed by, that was something
Starting point is 00:43:03 I discovered on my own, not on Wikipedia literally the way I discovered it and the name matched and I did some homework she misunderstood your mind blow I think she thought well tell me how she missed it I said the most she didn't understand what most decorated Olympian was I don't think that's the part that she didn't wasn't impressed by she wasn't
Starting point is 00:43:17 impressed by the connection you were making between her and her career and this Olympian swimmer is it a swimmer Henny Oleksiak yes who lives in my neighborhood and her career and this olympian swimmer is it a swimmer henny olexia yes who lives in my neighborhood and her family is the most fucking decorated fucking olympian of all time but to me the mind blow connection which you presented and didn't she it sort of went over her head to me somehow was that it's just the world is a cool small place and things intersect with each other and like that's what the mind like the guy who directed let's face it i think that's her most
Starting point is 00:43:44 famous song like i know there's a debate to be have i think mimi on the beach is like the signature song it was her introduction to the world right and the director of her video yeah would many years later would father a young girl a woman named penny alexiak who would go on to win more medals than any other canadian in the history of the Olympic Games. That's a cool fact. I think it's cool. It's a fucking amazing fact, Ron. Are you kidding me? It's a fucking cool fact. It is. I know. Alright, I'm going to get the big jam out of the way. Okay. Oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Are we going to cry? Are we going to cry? No. Well, you know, you can cry if you want to. But one of you actually also wanted this, but I had it first, and that's going to lead to a bonus fun fact. He didn't shut any of mine out. That's a good process of elimination.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You haven't shut any of mine out yet. I know because usually we both pick like Pearl Jam songs. I know not to pick 90s if I'm doing anything with you. I leave them for you. Nobody picks 90s anymore. I leave them for you. To me, this is the Angel Jam and there's so many fun facts blowing off of this one.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But let's get to the song. One of the first pop songs that was like I was immersed in as a young boy. Let's get to it. Maybe you'll sing the chorus with me Let's see what mood you're in Maybe if I do this That's right the chorus with me. Let's see what mood you're in. Maybe if I do this. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Is Bob already on beer number two? I'm going to have to go back to the fridge and get more for this young man. That's fine. No juice for you, Bob. No juice for you. You guys ready? Baby Just call me angel I'm a morning angel
Starting point is 00:46:07 Then slowly turn away Okay, no juice for you because this is all the juice you need today. Juice Newton. Does Juice Newton have another hit? Queen of Hearts. Of course. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Queen of Hearts. I know it ain't Rattling with the Queen of Hearts. I know it ain't really smart. That was a big jam too. Okay, so it's not going to be a mind blow to anybody. I want to shout out Leslie, though, on the live stream, who says this is her favorite, her number one angel jam, is Angel of the Morning by Juice Newton. So I'm playing the version that I grew up with
Starting point is 00:46:43 because this was a big hit when I was a kid. Obviously not a mind blow to. Because this was a big hit when I was a kid. Yep. Obviously not a mind blow to tell you this is a cover. This was a song written by Chip Taylor. That's a fucking, you think that's his real name? It's a great name. Chip Taylor. Who is he really?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Imagine having Chip on your birth certificate. Imagine Chip on your shoulder. Yeah. I know. Okay. The first version was recorded by Evie Sands.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah. Okay. Not the first hit, but the first version. Yeah. So let's go listen to a little bit, although I feel bad
Starting point is 00:47:15 taking down Juice Newton, but this is the very first recording of Angel of the Morning by Evie Sands. Totally different production. There's that little drum for Sam Strat.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Is she off key there? Or is that just me? Maybe that's why it wasn't a hit. Not a hit, everybody. It's the background vocal. I believe we're in 1967, by the way.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Just call me angel of the morning Still beautiful. This sounds very 60s, like the 60s. It makes sense. So, 67, this is the version
Starting point is 00:48:18 by E.B. Sands, not a hit. Just call me angel This version gives me more of a, just like a Jim Steinman vibe, too. A little like a meatloaf kind of a song.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But he was, Jim was inspired by all that kind of music. Yeah, yeah. Well, the next year, 1968, this song is finally a hit. Yeah. When Marilee Rush sings it. And this is Marilee Rush.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Where's the horns come in? That's different Trombone? Yeah, that's a trombone, right? Rob, you're the musician here I would say it's a trombone Or a nice French horn I was going to say maybe French horn
Starting point is 00:48:55 This has got like a birds vibe to it With the harmonies Yeah, the harmonies Little Everly Brothers Hurts vibe to it. And there's no need to take off. With the harmonies. Yeah, the harmonies. Little Everly Brothers. Yeah, Everly Brothers. It's beautiful. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It's a beautiful song, right? It really is a beautiful song. I see no reason to take me home. A little biteline, too. Yeah. I'm old enough to face the dark. We have to let Marilee get to be a chorus there. This is more like a Righteous Brothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:42 This makes me wish the Carpenters did this. This is more like a righteous rubbish. Yeah. This makes me wish the carpenters did this. Yeah. So the E.B. Sands version, not a hit, but it was a limited single release with no promotion. Wow. So that's poor.
Starting point is 00:49:56 One of the most radio hits today. No promotion. Right. And then in 1968, Marilee Rush records it, and you've got this hit. Yeah. What else do I have in my bag of tricks here? Oh, just for fun.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I mean, this has been covered by a million artists, but I just thought it would be fun to hear this version. Very Phil Spector-y, too, right? Yeah, very Phil Spector-y. This sounds like it should be on a Quentin Tarantino soundtrack. That's right. There'll be no strings to bind your hands Not if my love can't bind your heart
Starting point is 00:50:37 Name that artist. Is it Linda Ronstadt? No. And there's no need to take a stand You'll get it when you get it. Rob, if you know it, you can belt it out. Really? It's a Pretenders? Yes. And there's no need to take a stand For it was I who chose to start Really, it's the Pretenders. That's Christine Hyde. Now you hear it, right? I got it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I see no reason to take me home Right there, yeah. I am old enough to face the dawn Just call me angel of the morning It's beautiful. I might do a couple of hours on Angel. Just one more here. One away. It's beautiful. I might do a couple of hours on Angel. Just one more here, one more. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Oh. There'll be no strings to bind your head. That's a lot of covers of this. Is this like Ray Conniff or somebody? No. Good guess. I also did not pull, like there's a big hit by, not a big hit, but a hit by Olivia Newton-John. She covers this.
Starting point is 00:51:55 There's a bunch. P.P. Arnold, Connie Eaton. Dusty Springfield. I'm sure, yeah, that would make sense. Mary Mason, who I don't even know who the hell that is. Guys and Dolls. So this is attributed to... Percy Faith.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Percy Faith. Okay, I love Percy Faith, too. I knew it was one of those easy-listening dudes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like there needs to be, like, spin. Yeah, This is angelic on its own, right? But you know, hearing all these other versions makes me appreciate Juice Newton's version. That's the fucking killer version here.
Starting point is 00:52:33 But there is the kids today. I don't know if they're kids anymore, but... Oh yeah, that's yeah. Shaggy and some vocalist nobody knows. We should do some sort of... And the bass line is... Look at Miller. Space Cowboy.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yes. We should do some sort of reggae. Chum FM played the shit out of this. You're my angel. You're my darling angel. Closer than my peeps. Chum FM played the shit out of this. They probably still do, actually. You're my darling angel. It's like that Big Yellow Taxi, that abomination by Vanessa Carlton
Starting point is 00:53:18 and the fucking Counting Crows. Ravon, by the way, is the singer. Ravon. counting crows. Ravon, by the way, is the singer. Ravon. Love me some Shaggy.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I do. So there you go. You might know it. There you go. His voice is a little, what's his name from Lord of the Rings? Gollum? A little back in the throat. little bit yeah for sure the juice newton version went to number four on the billboard hot 100 that's a big hit but it it was in uh 81 i guess but what am i in 81 whatever i am six seven am, six, seven years old. Yeah, seven years old, I guess.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Man, it seemed to be everywhere. This was the big jam. Yeah, it was huge. My mom loved... See, Juice Newton, I think, had a country crossover of it, right? Yeah, for sure. For sure?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Because I probably still, somewhere in my house, have Queen of Hearts. For sure. Playing with the Queen of Hearts. No, it ain't real. Listen, Joker's the only fool. I had that song.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I know that better than I know Angel in the Morning. They were both big radio hits. Yeah. CFGM, 1320 here in Toronto. Or 1430 would have been playing that. I'm now looking at the jams we're yet to play. There's some big fucking jams coming up here.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Big songs. You came out with a big hit here right to begin with. I'm going to close with this, but I'm like... Are you going to do the mind blow about this song that I suggested to you? Oh, yeah. Okay. Right. Remember that? Yeah, I do remember you. Oh yeah, okay. Right. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah, I do remember that. Give me a moment to You don't have to play the song because I can explain it. Well, if I have it I'm going to play it. Let me just... And then I'll show you the cross. Listen to Shaggy for a minute. Okay. We have to. It's Gollum, right? Picture him on the rock. Precious.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's totally gone. Way back in the throat, eh? Jim Henson would approve of this. Grover. Yoda. It's all good when you're little, you're pure fun. Can't be a fool, son. What about the long run? Looking back, shawty, always a mention. See me not giving her much attention.
Starting point is 00:55:31 She was there through my incarceration. I want to show the nation my appreciation. Girl, you're my angel. You're my darling. Hello. Come on now. Chord progression? Something?
Starting point is 00:55:53 What are we listening for? The composer. Oh. Same dude. From the Troggs? Well, he wasn't in the Troggs. He wasn't in the Troggs. He wrote this song?
Starting point is 00:56:02 He wrote this song. Chip Taylor, yep. Oh, this is Chip Taylor? Yep. He wasn't in the truck. He wrote this song? He wrote this song. Chip Taylor, yeah. Oh, this is Chip Taylor? Yeah. Oh. Also, Chip Taylor, brother of John Voight. Wow. So, Angelina Jolie's uncle.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah. The guy who... Oh, now that's a bright... Come on now. Chewed the pencil in Seinfeld. Yeah. How come he just tossed that out like it was nothing? That's...
Starting point is 00:56:24 I think I love you. That's a good voice you got. Yeah, it was really good. Okay, so the fun fact is that the guy, Chip Taylor, also wrote this hit for the Trogs.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yep. Nice. Wild Thing. Yep. And they're the same song. To me, if you go back to the beginning of this,
Starting point is 00:56:38 I'll sing you Angel of the Morning and you'll see what the deal is. We could do a mashup. We could do a mashup. Here it comes, ready? Okay, so wait, wait. First, okay. Hold on here.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So this is Juice Newton. Oh, yeah. But you gotta play that. Yeah, there's a long buildup. We could do a mashup. Here it comes. Ready? Okay. So wait, wait. First, okay. Hold on here. So this is Juice Newton. Oh, yeah. But you got to play that. There's a long buildup. Yeah. Yeah. Wait before. It works better with Wild Thing.
Starting point is 00:56:52 All right. You're the boss. Okay. Let's do that. Yeah. Okay. Here it comes. Just call me angel of the morning, baby.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, in baby it's just yeah it's the one four five it's the all the songs all the greatest hits of the pop era are written with those chords yeah but really for him to like have two great hits that's the magic of pop song right you can do
Starting point is 00:57:22 do do do do do do do do all of it, yeah. That's really cool. All right, now we're ready to go. Now we're cooking. You want to hear a big fucking jam? Here's one. I'm alone Yeah, I don't know if I can face the night
Starting point is 00:58:08 I'm in tears and the crying that I do is for you I want your love Let's break the walls between us Don't make it tough I'll put away my pride If that's enough I've suffered and I've seen the light Baby, baby You're my angel Wow.
Starting point is 00:58:54 There you go. There's a power ballad. Totally. Fucking sounds great, Bob. Sure does. So that's the first song that came to mind. That was your first? First, right away.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Angel, 1987. Aerosmith, P that's the first song that came to mind. That was your first? First, right away. Angel, 1987. Yeah. Aerosmith, Permanent Vacation is the album. Right. And so it's interesting. You know, you forget. So in 84, they have the Walk This Way with Run DMC. They kind of come back.
Starting point is 00:59:18 They really hadn't had a lot going on. Yep. And in 85, they did an album called Done With Mirrors. With our producer, Ted Teppelman. But did nothing. Nothing. Not a goddamn hit on there. they did an album called Done With Mirrors. With our producer Ted Deppelman. But did nothing. Nothing. Not a goddamn hit on there. You can't find a hit on that album.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And I heard it was a low point for the band as well. And they were trying to be sober and like Done With Mirrors, obviously. They don't mean looking at them. They're talking about snorting off of them.
Starting point is 00:59:37 And Permanent Vacation comes out. And the first single off Permanent Vacation was Garbage 2. It was a song called Hangman Jury. Is that the first single? That was the first single. Not Dude Looks Like a Lady. Dude Looks Like. Is that the first single? That was the first single.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Not Dude Looks Like a Lady. Dude Looks Like a Lady was the second single. That's a fun fact. Yeah, there you go. The second single is Dude Looks Like a Lady and they blow up again.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It's like Aerosmith is back. That was huge. And they, and then off that, of course, then Angel was the next single. Look at the way this was, so the album comes out
Starting point is 01:00:00 August 18th, 87. They release Hangman Jury. Nothing. Then in September, so quickly, within a month, they released Dude Looks Like a Lady. And the video was huge, right? Remember MTV, Much Music, 87. You know.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Rob, you were there. It was amazing. And then Angel comes out in January. They ride that from September to January. January 88. 88. January 88, Angel comes out. And then Ragdoll.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yeah, Ragdoll, great jam too. Such a good album. Oh, it's a great album. But wait, wait, wait. So Hangman Jury. Yes. Which I don't even care. I don't even know it.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I don't know it. It was the first single. Rob, you're the only guy here who's released an album. Like, who makes the call on the singles that get released? Well, it's pretty. They had three big singles after that bullshit first single. But, you know know like I was saying with Madonna
Starting point is 01:00:45 with Angel she originally thought that was going to be the first single off the album at least that's a great fucking pop song that's a great song
Starting point is 01:00:50 but smart for her to realize as time went on as they made more songs she's like let's hold it back and let's bring this one instead I mean we should I should have had
Starting point is 01:00:58 Hangman Jerry queued up but I have something else queued up first because this was I don't know how early on in their career but they started working with
Starting point is 01:01:06 professional songwriters. And they worked with this guy. Desmond Child? Yes. Did he co-write this one? He co-wrote this. So Desmond Child has co-written, oh my gosh. So, and I picked one that I thought, just because it shows how, like he's worked with Kiss, he's worked with Cher,
Starting point is 01:01:21 Bonnie Tyler, Bon Jovi. But the one that I picked is also from around the same time a little bit later uh so uh he did uh he also did um he he co-wrote uh the i just saw alice cooper last week oh yeah uh he co-wrote alice cooper poison like he did that whole album with alice cooper yeah he's also featured in trash also featured in wayne's world trash is. Yeah, but the one that I picked is from a pop artist that I thought, just to show
Starting point is 01:01:50 what the influence of a writer can do. So this is the Mind Blow. This guy also co-wrote this song. You can finish out Angel if you want. Oh yeah. Huge song. But those kind of songwriters would work
Starting point is 01:02:13 with rock bands because it brought that level of songwriting. This is more of a Jim Steinman style. Yeah. The production is, yeah. But compositionally, Desmond Child was the shit at the time. He wrote so much. He was like Diane Warren. You know Diane Warren. Of course.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Gave Aerosmith their biggest hit. Yeah. Same kind of thing. Yeah, I don't want to miss a thing. Which, by the way, Angel was their biggest hit. Until. Until I don't want to miss a thing. The ballads are the hits.
Starting point is 01:02:35 The ballads are the hits. Yeah. So this, so Michael Bolton, say what you want about him. You know. I celebrate the man's entire catalog. I actually. You know what? It's great pop music. Oh, what? It's great pop music.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Oh, yeah. It's great pop music. Yeah, but you like him better since he did the Lonely Island stuff. Oh, sure. I like him better. I like somebody who,
Starting point is 01:02:51 like Richard Marks, for instance. Richard Marks is great because he doesn't take himself too seriously and he realizes that he was from a moment and you get.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And this is like, you know, the fact that the same guy co-wrote this and Angel makes total sense. Yeah. And you can understand. So is this more rocky because of him or is...
Starting point is 01:03:10 It's all about the production. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, I was going to say the thing with the Aerosmith production on that album, Permanent Vacation, it was produced by Bruce Fairburn from Vancouver. Yeah. Who did, if you work backwards from there, he did Slippery When Wet for Bon Jovi. Right. Big album.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And he also did Honeymoon Suite, Big Prize. Okay. So that was the album they released just before I joined the band. Just before you joined the band. Yep. But the stories we had heard that Bon Jovi loved the Big Prize so much that that's why they asked Bruce to produce them. Wow. So it kind of went Honeymoon Suite.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I mean, he was kind of making his way along with the bands, right? Right. And Aerosmith did the same thing. They're like, you go to the producer that's going to give you the hits. Well, Metallica with Bob Rock, right? Oh, and actually Get a Grip is Bob Rock. Bob was Bruce's engineer. So it was always Bob and Bruce together.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Oh, I didn't know that side of it. Midtown Gourd on the live chat has a mind blow for you guys. You ready? Sure. Michael Bolton tried out for Black Sabbath. And he would know his shit. Midtown Gourd knows his fucking music. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Especially if it's Black Sabbath style, heavy metal hard rock shit. Cool. I believe this man. He also says he personally loved Done With Mirrors. He said it was a great album. Oh, cool. That's good. I don't know that I ever actually heard it. You know what? I don't know anything from it.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And I have a ton of vinyl. I was the guy for years everybody's uncle was getting rid of their vinyl, and it came to me. And I got a whole bunch of stuff from the old Q107 library as well. And I have a bunch of Aerosmith. I don't have done with mirrors. I've never seen it. Never even seen it.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Ow! Woo! Like that. Yeah, I don't recognize, like, again, I'm a reasonable Aerosmith fan, but I don't recognize these singers. I've seen Aerosmith twice. I saw them on that tour they did with Run DMC and Kid Rock. Yeah. It was phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Wow. And I saw them also with a kid named Johnny Lang open for them. Remember Johnny Lang? Yeah. The blues kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Wow. I didn't realize how much of an Aerosmith fan I am until I saw them. And I was like, oh, yeah, these guys are great. Yeah. Okay, the lead single. We're talking about Aerosmith listening to Michael Bolton. Yeah. Let the music do the talking was the lead single. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:13 And then Sheila. Don't know any of it. Which is a better 5440 song. Aerosmith could do How Could We Love You Lovers. They can cover this. No problem. You know, I remember seeing an interview with Dave Grohl. Yeah. Talking about making music and how he, you know, I remember seeing an interview with Dave Grohl talking about making music and
Starting point is 01:05:26 how he, you know, he can't read music and he just does it. And he thinks about a guitar as like a drum kit. Yeah. This string is like the bass and this string, you know. And he said, you know, somebody asked him, well, how do you write a song? And he was just like, he's like, I just want to make a fucking hit. He goes, think about Aerosmith. He literally said, he goes, Aerosmith knows how to fucking do it. it like that's how they that they know how to write a hit for sure and they
Starting point is 01:05:48 really do they have all along so we i mentioned there's big bands you know we've got aerosmith we got madonna there's some big fucking angel songs yeah you know what this is a big fucking rock band you ready yeah how you think yeah are we gonna miss oh there's gotta be some other stuff we going to miss? Oh, there's got to be some other stuff we're going to miss. Now that we're getting into it, I'm like, oh, there's stuff I wanted to do. Did anyone pick Poison?
Starting point is 01:06:14 They have a good Angel song, Poison. No. Nope. Touch the ground, a jam cave Snow is melting on the ground Near this, I heard the sound Of an angel New York like a Christmas tree Night, the city belongs to me Angel Oh yeah, I'm loving my little thing here, Rodney.
Starting point is 01:06:41 We love our new toy. And I love Rattle and Hum. I just want to throw it toys. And I love Rattle and Hum. I just want to throw it out there. I love Rattle and Hum. So much. All right, Robbie, talk to us. Angel of Harlem. This is one of the songs.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I think the three songs that I sent you were the first three songs that came into my head as far as angel songs. That's the best way to do it. Yeah, really. Trust the instinct. But this was recorded in Memphis on the Rattle and Hum tour. They went into Sun Studios in Memphis
Starting point is 01:07:24 because it's in the film, right? And that's actually the recording they did. And I was in Memphis in 1999. I was doing this musical, Cats, traveling around the States. Oh, wow. And I went to Sun Studios, and there's a little museum.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I mean, you go in, there's a museum, you get a tour. But upstairs, they had the digital recorder that U2 used. Oh, wow. It's actually in this room upstairs as well, and they talk about it, which is cool. But the horns
Starting point is 01:07:46 on this song are called the Memphis Horns, and it's really... Great horns on this song. Yeah, great songs. Great horns. Two dudes, they played on all the Stax records like in the 60s and stuff, like sitting on the dock of the bay and all that kind of stuff, and the trumpet player from the Memphis Horns,
Starting point is 01:08:02 he's also featured on Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer. Well, that makes sense. You can sort of see the relation to that sound, right? Totally makes sense. Absolutely. Now that you say that. Totally the same kind. There they are. Great arrangement.
Starting point is 01:08:13 And then there's an organ on this song as well, which I thought was really interesting because I was researching for this and I didn't really ever know it before. It was like a session musician who used to be like, he's like one of the world's greatest accordionists. Oh, wow. His name is Joey Miskelin.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Cool. He used to play with Frankie Yankovic, who was when this- Was Al Yankovic's dad? No. No? I don't know. No, no, no. Frankie Yankovic?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Yes. I don't think that's his dad. I don't know for sure. I don't know. I feel his parents were just regular people. Hang on. But Joey, when he was a kid, played with Frankie Yankovic in the 60s as an accordionist. He's like this virtuoso accordionist.
Starting point is 01:08:44 But he's playing an organ with you two on this, which I think is amazing. All right. Maybe no relation. I like that, though. Let's stick with it. He is not related to Weird Al. That was one of the possibilities. How many Yankevichs?
Starting point is 01:08:58 How many Yankevichs? What a great song this is. I think we have to do a DNA test. I don't have to do a DNA test. Do you... I don't want to get off the angel thing. Do you have a moment, something you got to play? Like an organ or like a moment,
Starting point is 01:09:15 like something that you were like, I got to do this. Like I have to play on a... I don't know, like a church organ or something that blew your mind you got to be able to do? I played...
Starting point is 01:09:24 Well, like when we did our song Tell No Lies, Nile Rodgers had this keyboard called a synclavier, a church organ or something that blew your mind you got to be able to do? I played, well, like when we did our song Tell No Lies, Nile Rodgers had this keyboard called a synclavier, which was like a $200,000 synth
Starting point is 01:09:30 in the 80s. Okay. It was like this the most high-tech thing and I did some keyboard stuff on that which was super exciting. That's fun.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Because basically, you know, I didn't know what to do with it except find a couple of sounds and play it, but I would have never had the opportunity
Starting point is 01:09:40 otherwise. To be on this amazing machine. That's cool. Yeah. All right, I'm only playing this song because I do love Angel of Harlem by U2.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I love it a lot, but it does remind me of this song. Oh, yeah. The organ and everything, right? Yep. And I mean, if you're going to steal from a song, why not steal from, like, these songs? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Totally similar, yeah. Yep. We got to do some mashups. Right. I've always wanted to. I've never, I don't know keys well enough. Like, but yeah, perfect. Just call me angel. It fits everything. Just call me angel in the morning, baby.
Starting point is 01:10:27 It fits everything. See, they're all the same. No, it's true. Have you ever seen there's a comedian out there, a guy who does like a whole thing. That six chords.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yeah, remember when that vitamin C graduation. It's all based on Pachelbel's Canon. Everything's Pachelbel's Canon. That's really good, actually. Everything is Pachelbel's Canon. Pretty much.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah. It's closing time. It's really good, actually. It's really well done. Everything is Pockabills Canon. Pretty much. Yep. Yep. It's closing time. It's true. One last. Okay. Do, do, do. Do, do, do, do. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Yep. Everything. Having a great time now. Okay. So, Angel of Harlem. Great song. Great angel. A lot of great angel songs.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Yeah. Here's another one for you guys. You ready? Let's do it. I am an old woman Named after my mother My old man is another Child that's grown old
Starting point is 01:11:30 If dreams were lightning Thunder were desire This old house would have burnt down A long time ago Make me an angel that flies from Montgomery make me a poster
Starting point is 01:11:55 of an old rodeo just give me one thing that I can hold on to To believe in this living Is just a hard way to go Do either of you two whippersnappers
Starting point is 01:12:17 want to name the artist? Sure. I mean, now you're acting like a cool guy. This is the original. This is John Prine. This is John Prine. Yeah, this is John Prine. I'm very interested. This is John Prine. I'm very interested to talk about John Prine with you guys because his resurgence is really
Starting point is 01:12:31 interesting to me, but the big hit is Bonnie Raitt's version. Well, that's the mind blow coming up next. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to ruin your mind. It's all blowing my mind. We're going to let John Prine go fish. This is a great pick, by the way. On the note that you just played there, Bobby, I only started to appreciate this song
Starting point is 01:12:48 after he passed away from COVID-19. And John Prine's a guy hiding in plain sight. He's there. He dies. I start diving in and I'm like, what the fuck? How good is this guy? My father-in-law, who is a born in Dublin, 75-year-old Irish dude,
Starting point is 01:13:04 loves traditional Irish music. loves, he listened to everything. And he knew John Prine, like, would have gone to, like, the longboat up in Yorkville and all, you know. Riverboat. Riverboat, excuse me, yeah. Like, he was hanging out. He was at the, and I believe him because he was at the 72 recording with Neil Young at Massey Hall. Massey Hall, yeah. That kind of, so, and he loves John Prine
Starting point is 01:13:26 and especially loves the late John Prine stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm interested to hear about your guys' experience with John. I'm like Mike, I didn't really get to know him
Starting point is 01:13:34 until after we passed away. Yeah. Okay, so I have a caveat, which is, I really didn't dive in until after he died. Yeah. But I do these FOTM
Starting point is 01:13:41 Kick Out the Jams episodes. Yeah. I did a lot during the COVID-19 and somebody wanted me to play hello in there, but the version he re he re-recorded.
Starting point is 01:13:49 So hello in there is a song from this era, I guess, young prime. And then in his older years, John Prine re-records hello in there. And I love this song so fucking much, this hello in there. I like this new version of prime,
Starting point is 01:14:01 like songs about old people. And this is an old guy singing it this song's about old people okay anyway so i'm kind of digging this john prine song and i go this guy's interesting then he dies then i dive in and i always i think i joked on this very program like there's got to be a word for when you like start to like an artist after they die posthumously i like an artist i don't whatever they die now i like thisously. Posthumously. Posthumously. Lots of times. I like an artist. I don't. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:26 They die. Now I like this artist. Yeah, for sure. Because you just... Where are you going to get introduced to John Prine? Yeah. Living in Toronto. Like in the...
Starting point is 01:14:36 Even 70s and 80s. Like that's not... John Prine doesn't have radio hits. John Prine doesn't have country radio hits. He had to be covered. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:43 I'll play it right now while we talk about John Prine. John Prine doesn't have hits. But people know to be covered yes I'll play it right now while we talk about John Prine John Prine doesn't have hits but people know his name but music people who is who is the other big one
Starting point is 01:14:50 that I there's a bunch of people that music people love oh yeah there's lots of them a lot of them and when you get into them you're like
Starting point is 01:14:56 oh okay okay so it's funny we're playing Bonnie Raitt because she's got a tour coming up I am an old woman. Here she is. She had a hit with this one.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Named after my mother. But Royal Wood is opening for Bonnie Raitt on her tour coming up. Nice. And Royal Wood is in this basement tomorrow morning at 9.30 a.m. That's super cool. He's an early cat, huh? Nice. He's got a lot of press to do.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I think he's... The other big one besides John Prine, Tom Waits. Tom Waits. Tom Waits, who's still alive. But never had a radio hit. Music, people who know music love Tom Waits. I think it's a generational thing, too, though, because people who grew up in the 60s into the 70s loving music in general, there was way more access to things that weren't just on the radio.
Starting point is 01:15:41 You were listening to FM radio was playing stuff that wasn't necessarily, it wasn't about the hits, to FM radio was playing stuff that wasn't necessarily. Yeah. It wasn't about the hits, right? It was playing alternative. David Morrison would put on that deep cut. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Chum FM. Okay. The production is so crazy on this. This is 74. It's got really interesting, like, it's really clean,
Starting point is 01:15:59 like, sounding for 74. Sometimes you get a little loss or something, you know? This kind of, this style though, I think, I mean, it's like Joni Mitchell recording in that era too, right?
Starting point is 01:16:08 Yeah, fair enough. Beautiful sounding stuff. But very specifically, it's like acoustic, folky bass, I guess. This is 74? Yeah, it's 74. So Prine writes,
Starting point is 01:16:17 Prine's version is 71 and Bonnie Rae is 74. This is from Streetlights. Yeah. Sorry, you know, Bonnie Raitt has been around forever. I only, like,
Starting point is 01:16:29 discovered her in, like, the late 80s, I want to say. Me too. I still remember watching that Grammys. Oh, yeah. When Let's Give Him
Starting point is 01:16:36 Something to Talk About was the big single. Right. And there was a bunch, it was like 89 or something, early 90s, and there was a bunch of, like, I still remember,
Starting point is 01:16:43 like, there would have been artists like Belle Biv Devoe or all nominated, and then bonnie rate goes and wins all these grammys and as a 13 or 14 year old kid i'm like who the fuck is bonnie right now right who's this old lady coming up and she was and then it just happened again two years ago she was old and now she's doing it yeah obviously i wrote that song too that Well, let's give her something to talk about. It's CanCon. Shirley Eichardt. Shirley Eichardt.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yes, right. She just passed away. Okay, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. So here's a Bonnie Raitt quote about this song. Okay. I think Angel from Montgomery probably has meant more to my fans and my body of work than any other song, and it will historically be considered one of the most important ones
Starting point is 01:17:23 I've ever recorded. It's just such a tender way of expressing that sentiment of longing. Like, hello in there, without being maudlin or obvious. It has all the different shadings of love and regret and longing. It's a perfect expression from a wonderful genius.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Wow. And when you get into him, it's unbelievable how good his stuff was. Yeah. Do you see that special that Strombo did in his house? Yes. It's really good. Like FOTM, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:17:51 I think he's supposed to be on a couple times at least, hasn't he? He's an FOTM 100%. Yeah. But he's only been here once. Yeah. But George did that when he was doing those things in his house with John Price. And Gordon Lightfoot's in the audience and they're talking about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:03 It's pretty amazing. And that was like one of his last public performances. It was like a few months later. He was dead. Oh, my God. Yeah. He died from what was in your house this past week. That's right.
Starting point is 01:18:13 And not here, by the way. I'm crying, boys. Don't worry. Just kidding. All right. So the Angel Jams is going very well. I think this is one of our strongest. We're flowing.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah. Like, I'm liking the difference., like I'm liking the difference. Yeah, I'm liking the difference. Yeah, but it's been going so smooth and so well and I now see what's coming up on the horizon. This is me. This fucking Bob Ouellette always
Starting point is 01:18:37 just disrespecting the program. Not at all. No. Wait till you... Okay, let's listen. I'll give you a benefit of the doubt and then you can explain yourself. Okay, let's kick it. Sounds angelic. I'll give you a benefit of the doubt and then you can explain yourself. Let's kick it. Sounds angelic. Harps. Your story's sad to tell A teenage ne'er-do-well Most mixed-up, non-delinquent, on the block
Starting point is 01:19:12 Your future's so unclear now What's left of your career now Can't even get a trade in on your smile. What's going on here? Beauty school dropout See, I had a question about this very thing. Congratulations, Dave, for you Beauty school dropout
Starting point is 01:19:54 Missed your midterms and flunked shampoo Well, at least you could have taken time To wash and clean your clothes up After spending all that dough to have the doctor fix your nose up Baby, get moving Why keep your feeble hopes alive? What are you proving? You've got the dream, but not the drive
Starting point is 01:20:24 If you go for your diploma, you can join us at a pool. Turn in your tees and comb and go back to high school. Come on, everybody knows this song. I don't know this song. You don't know this song? No. You've never seen Grease the movie? No.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Oh. How is that possible? You need to see Grease. How have you never seen Grease the movie? No. Oh. How is that possible? You need to see Grease. How have you never seen that? I've never even been close to seeing Grease the musical to be honest. I know the big hit.
Starting point is 01:20:50 The 1978 classic was on Broadway in 73, something like that. Are you shaming me? Yeah, big time. You should, so this is You should watch it
Starting point is 01:21:00 with your camera. Beauty School Dropout by the character Teen Angel who is Frankie Valli. Frankie Avalon. Frankie Avalon. Oh, yeah, Frankie Avalon.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Sorry, you're right. Time out. So Angel's not in the name of the song, right? No, but it is performed by the character performing it is Teen Angel. And the entire scene in the movie, they're all dressed like angels. They're like angels. Yeah. Floating away.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Yeah. He comes in the white suit. When I saw, I saw a touring version of Grease here in Toronto, and some loser from American Idol, what was his name? The guy with the white hair. Not Bo Bice. One of the, he came, he was. Michael McDonald.
Starting point is 01:21:38 No, yeah, exactly. He came out as. Really, he was Teen Angel? He was Teen Angel. I can't remember the guy's name. I'm sure somebody in the chat... So, did they mention Angel in the song at all? Never.
Starting point is 01:21:47 No. But the character is Teen Angel. I remember that. And the entire scene in the movie and the play is all Angel related. It's an Angel jam. And then, oh, there is this. Gotta be going to that malt shop in the sky. So...
Starting point is 01:22:01 Speaking of death. This is... Yeah. This is... So, I don't have any mind blows about this except for this is just one of the greatest musical movies of all time uh universally loved if um beauty school dropout i in 1990 91 i'm in grade. I didn't mean to kick you there, sorry. Go back to high school. He's very excited.
Starting point is 01:22:28 I love singing along to this. It must be one of your karaoke jams. Grease, okay, so everyone's seen Grease? Grease, okay, because I do know there's that Greased Lightning or whatever. What's the song? Yeah, John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John. John Travolta sings? Yeah, Summer Nights. Summer Nights, that's the John Travolta sings. Yeah, Summer Nights.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Summer Nights, that's the one I'm thinking of. Well, well, well, well, well, well,
Starting point is 01:22:47 well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well,
Starting point is 01:22:47 well, well, well, well, well, well, I know that song, but nothing in that song
Starting point is 01:22:50 ever made me feel like I want to hear more of this. It just sounded like a musical theater. Which it totally is. Which was a previous episode. A bunch of the, there's a few songs in the movie
Starting point is 01:23:01 that were written just for the movie, including Sandy and You're the One That I Want. And Hopelessly Devoted to You. And the Grease title track by Frankie Valli. All of those were not in the original musical. But if anyone's listening to their first toast, which is ridiculous, go back and listen to all the toasts. You two are big
Starting point is 01:23:18 fans of musical theater. He's made us living out of it. You're also a big fan. I was going to share a personal anecdote about that. Me and the brother on the, not brother Bill, but brother Neil, he's not into musical theater as I'm not am I. So this song, I would just not have encountered that song in my entire life. And hearing it now, I think you'd have to be a big musical theater guy maybe to dig that.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Or to get it. To get it. And to be fair, it's actually very self-aware. to be fair, it's actually like very self-aware. It's a very, in the movie, it's completely tongue in cheek. It's a dream sequence. It's a dream sequence and it's tongue in cheek.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah. When I was, so I was, uh, when I was 14 years old, uh, grade nine in 1990, I go to my high school and,
Starting point is 01:24:00 um, I take drama because I'm a big loud mouth. Yeah. And my high school, uh, was St. Pat's in East Toronto. And the teacher was this lovely woman, Ms. O'Brien. And they did these big musicals every year. We would do four or five.
Starting point is 01:24:12 And we had four or five performances. We had an auditorium, like a theater that held 400 people. It was a big deal. And it was Greece. You guys did Greece? We did Greece. Wow. And I can still remember. So I'm grade nine. You got all these kids all the way up. greece we did greece and i can still remember so i'm grade nine
Starting point is 01:24:25 you got all these kids all the way up and again we still have grade 13 there so we got like 19 year olds and i got up i was in i was a greaser i was in the chorus yeah but i also got a part for the very first i was vince fontaine the dj yes i get casted premonition yes i get casted and i can still remember a gentleman um do who uh was also a greaser yeah uh was cast as teen angel it was this kid this guy terry sussa did it and i get and they dressed them all in white and watched it and he he was he he over pronounced everything and a great and amazing your stories sad to tell and watching it i was just like this is great and that kind of hooked me on theater and on musical theater that was the start for you yeah that was it yeah and then and that was 90
Starting point is 01:25:09 again and we've talked about this before we've nerded out about then les mis comes to town then you know phantom's already here cats is here all this stuff yep so here we are that was it that was so and then yeah so when angel came i was like i got like a teen angel angel you thought a teen angel okay so this song which i don, okay, but listen to it for a few seconds. Sounds like fun. A bad recording of like an 80s hard rock song. Bring the noise. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:39 So this song is called Rapture. Maybe Midtown Gord knows this song. I don't know. But it's by a band called Morbid Angel. Okay. Is this a fucking Angel song, Bob Willett? Because the band's got Angel in the this song. I don't know, but it's by a band called Morbid Angel. Okay. Is this a fucking angel song, Bob Willett? Because the band's got angel in the fucking title. I don't know. I haven't seen
Starting point is 01:25:50 the video or the context. Morbid Angel. Maybe the context. Rob Proust, look me in the eyes. Is this an angel jam by Morbid Angel? Is this an angel jam? No, you would say this is... That's a bad precedent. You know what? You're splitting hairs, sir. What's the difference?
Starting point is 01:26:05 What's the difference? The difference is watch the video. Watch the video of the scene from the movie. If there's an angel. My question, when you started the song, my question about the contextualizing of an angel was if the angel has to be in the title only. You went one step further, and you put the angel in the character. Because I was like...
Starting point is 01:26:23 Yeah, I want to push boundaries. I want to open Mike's mind. He's so fucking narrow minded. I'm looking for backup. So I'm going straight to Leslie. You're so funny. Leslie says great song. Great movie. Yeah. Doesn't qualify. Sorry, Bob.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Sorry, Leslie. You're wrong. You are wrong. It is because especially watch Google the scene from the movie, dude. Watch it on YouTube. There's nothing. They're all dressed like angels. It is because especially watch Google the scene from the movie, dude. Watch it on YouTube. There's nothing. They're all dressed like angels. It is an angel song. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Okay. Well, you know, it's almost like the Brandon Flowers. What would it take? The Brandon Flowers. I knew I was pushing. I know. The Brandon Flowers. I think you're pushing him here, too, though.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I think this is a good point. Are you taking a stand against Bob? I want to witness this. Keep going. No, no. No, I understand. Rob's the nicest guy on the planet. He's going to let you get away with to witness this. Keep going. No, I understand. He's the nicest guy on the planet. He's going to let you get away with murder.
Starting point is 01:27:09 But look. So look, we had this conversation and we have it all the time. That's why we didn't do the God one because I'm like, we do Dear God. Can I also do like Here I Am Lord, the hymn I used to sing in my Catholic school. That's a God song.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Right? So Bob, this is bullshit. bullshit yeah there you go rob yeah rob is that serious it hurts i'm excited no you can't do it i can't do it he's too nice it hurts you're like you're like mr dress up you know yeah i am but because i'm like i'm a libra uh oh you're a libra i'm a libra yeah problem well that doesn't mean anything it It doesn't. It's 112 of the world. It's fucking Libra. But 112 of the world, we're all Charlie Browns.
Starting point is 01:27:52 So we see both sides of the equation. I actually heard a podcast the other day where they were talking about, it was like, we need to talk about the artist that is Kanye and what is happening with Kanye. And it was like, they're having a conversation about this because hip hop's turning 50
Starting point is 01:28:02 and they were doing this conversation. And I was interested in Convo until a lady started talking about Kanye West's, what is it called again? Astrology sign. Astrology sign. And explaining that, like, Like as if it was fact?
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah, like as if that's, his sign explains some of his behavior. So that's why he can be anti-Semitic? Right, anti-Semitic. Yeah, yeah, right. And I was so angry that there was a human being on this planet that would actually think that the month you were born, it would affect, would somehow excuse any kind of behavior like that.
Starting point is 01:28:29 It doesn't excuse it. Okay. So Morbid Angel's Rapture, we agree, is also an angel jam. Sure. If Bob's fucking jam from what is it? If that, then sure. Frankie Avalon does a song for Grease. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:41 And you think that's an angel jam. The character is called Teen Angel. The scene is him coming from heaven and all of the pink ladies are dressed as angels. That, my friend, is a fucking angel jam. Painted Ladies
Starting point is 01:28:53 is an Ian Thomas song. I said the pink ladies. Did I say painted? No, I said pink ladies. Brother of Dave Thomas, though. I'm just tying it all together. Okay, whatever.
Starting point is 01:29:02 All right. So we have one more jam here from Rob Pruce, keyboardist with Spoons and Honeymoon Suite, and now working on Broadway. Are you currently working? I'm not working on Broadway currently. Why can't I say that? You can say it.
Starting point is 01:29:16 You can say it. Broadway. Yeah, sure. No, I was just curious if you were. I would like to know. Are you working at all? With my wife, you know, we do a lot of teaching on my solo projects. I don't know. I didn't know that. I was going to say you said you were in a recording session today. Are you all hush? With my wife, you know, we do a lot of teaching on my solo projects. I don't know why I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I was going to say, you said you were in a recording session today. Are you all hush-hush about it? No, it's a band from Hamilton called The Foreign Films. Okay. And I've worked on their albums for the last four or five years, I guess. Oh, nice. But usually it's long distance. Maybe they'll be played on Kingston Radio if Bob Willett takes that back.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I had an interesting lunch with the vice president of audio with Chorus Entertainment today. Really? Yeah. My boss's boss. Can you name that person? Yeah. Ronnie Stanton's his name. I know that name. Yep. Absolutely. He is the I actually know that name and I only know a few names. No. Ronnie Stanton. He's in town and I missed seeing him in Kingston because of
Starting point is 01:30:00 the COVID thing. Yeah. They didn't want me to come because they thought I might. If I did have it. Yeah. We didn't have it. But he they thought I might. If I did have it, we didn't have it. But he was in town, so I went and had dim sum with him today. Had a very interesting conversation with him. Can you reveal anything of an interesting nature that you discussed with Ronnie Stanton?
Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah, it's... I'm not telling any secrets. It's bleak right now, man. We're not doing well. Radio in general, not just us. It's a really really really tough time okay you're doing all you can but uh yeah sort of like this play to record documentary i saw where the uh suddenly djs were using uh files yeah they didn't need the vinyl anymore it's like. It's like, you know, we can argue about whether who, which wing of Nordstar, who owns Toronto Star.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Yeah, because I don't believe that Toronto Star is. No, but you're right. That wing has not filed for bankruptcy protection yet. Yet. Right. That's all. That's all. Where's Wise Blot when we need him?
Starting point is 01:30:58 You explain it. And I love what I do. And Ronnie Stanton, my boss's boss, who is a really good guy, loves what we do. It's really hard right now, to be completely honest. It is really hard. I think in a lot of the arts slash entertainment world, it's similar. It's very Marshall McLuhan. The medium has changed
Starting point is 01:31:16 so much for us and then what happens is two of your major companies here in Canada are owned by big telecoms and they don't look at it as an art, as something they should invest in. And I completely
Starting point is 01:31:31 understand why. You got shareholders, you got but it is hard right now, man. It is hard. The cuts have been hard. And the problem with the changes that go on, and this is not just the arts today, but the changes, technological changes that happen, once a cat is out of the bag, the genie doesn't go back
Starting point is 01:31:46 in the bottle. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Yeah, whatever thing you want to use. Whatever thing, yeah, you can't.
Starting point is 01:31:51 That's right. Because people, I mean, I hear people talking about the writer's strike with streaming and the film world and I understand that
Starting point is 01:31:57 and then a lot, I hear people wanting to bring it back to the music business and saying, well, you know, the record companies
Starting point is 01:32:02 and streaming and artists don't get paid and I understand all that stuff. You're right, they don't. But you're not going to tell the world to not listen to every recording that's ever been made now because the genie's out of the bottle. Every song is you need is right here in front of you or in your pocket.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Yeah. And so what is, where does radio fit in there? And the problem is our industry and this is our industry has cut so much, the things that made us unique and all the tastemakers, the Alan Crosses who you mentioned, the David Marsden's, those guys, they haven't been given there's no new guys there's no new david marsden there's no new alan cross yeah but that world doesn't exist anymore no so i mean so what where does it exist how does it exist and i know we're way off topic from angels but i'm interested so yeah honestly this is the conversation i had yeah with a very high up guy in chorus and
Starting point is 01:32:44 and i'm not were you drinking at this lunch? Not at all. He doesn't drink at all. I had tea and water. Okay, cold tea. Not drinking at all. No, I almost said cold tea because it was right next to a place I used to go for cold tea.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Hong Shing around Spadina and Dundas. We would used to go there in the middle of the night for cold tea, which was beer. After closing time. Back when it was still 1 o'clock last call. Crazy. You'd go there at 1.30 in the morning, get yourself some fried rice and some cold tea, and they'd bring you out a thing of cold tea.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Very Toronto. Sorry. No, don't apologize. Please. Yeah. You did ask, but yeah. But the thing we can agree on is that angels are timeless. Angels supersede all the bullshit that we talk about in all this stuff. These songs have been great. Yeah. Except for mine, of course.
Starting point is 01:33:30 This is not a song any of us picked, but I just thought it was interesting. The angels came in 61 to play in California, son. Bill Rigney was the manager. Like it's a special version of this song about California Angels players. Where the fuck did you get this? I know Mr. Baseball, Rob Bruce, doesn't give a fuck about any of this, but it's kind of neat to hear like this is the California Angels version. I know this song.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I know this song. Talkin' Baseball was the hit, okay? The Simpsons had Talkin' Softball, which was like a spoof on this. And the Toronto Blue Jays got a version for their 10th birthday or something about Blue Jays. But it sounds like every team had a version. Wow. Actually, I have no idea. I've never heard it.
Starting point is 01:34:15 You've heard Talking Baseball, right? Really? Is that this song? Well, this is Talking Angels or something. I feel like I've heard a version of this. Talking Baseball. Talking Baseball. Talking Baseball. Nope, don't know it.
Starting point is 01:34:31 It was a big hit. Okay, fine. But anyway, this is the Angels Baseball song, and I just thought it was interesting. And lime and angels baseball. Vader chalk and rye. And who's singing it? Do you know? It's the same guy. Is it? The guy who sang the Talking Baseball also sings
Starting point is 01:34:45 talking softball and talking angel shit i can't remember mr talking baseball johnny big fucking hit everybody knows uh talking baseball everybody knows it's terry cashman so the big hit was called um talking baseball willie mickey and the duke so this was like on the radio. Like it was a big deal. Here, let me see if this will play. I've got to mute it here. The Wiz kids had won it. Bobby Thompson. I mean, I guess now I kind of.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Yeah, it's vaguely familiar, right? Yeah. Sounds like the theme for a TV show. Cheers. Mixellium. Everybody knows your name. Streets down to China. Mr. Belvedere.
Starting point is 01:35:30 It totally does. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to baseball. I'm your host. Good stuff. Good stuff. All right, Rob. You ready for your final jam?
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm ready. Will it make me as angry as Bob's jam made me? Not a chance. No way. Thank God. Okay, here. Thank God on this. Angels. Here we go. This Not a chance. No way. Thank God. Okay, here. Thank God on this angel's.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Here we go. This is a big one, too. Let's do it. Let's do it. Crying on my pillow Lonely in my bed Then I heard a voice beside me And she softly said Wonder is your nightlight Magic is your dream
Starting point is 01:36:17 And as I held her She said, see what I mean I said, what? She said, ooh I said, see what I mean. I said, what? What? She said, ooh. I said, all right. She said, love me, love me, love me. Undercover angel, midnight fantasy. I've never had a dream that makes me love me.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Undercover angel, Answer to my prayer You made me know that there's a love for me Out there Somewhere Yeah, somewhere Oh, I love that. Come on. Heavenly surrender
Starting point is 01:37:03 Undercover angel. That song qualifies. Well done, Rob Bruce. This was actually the first song that came in my head. Okay. Was it? Yeah, yeah. Because this was on the radio.
Starting point is 01:37:12 This was a huge hit when I was 11 years old. 77. 77. Yep. It was for me. And it's very quintessentially a 70s sound. Yep. With this.
Starting point is 01:37:22 What? And then there's a little disco-y. Yep. And then here's Matthew McConaughey. Alright, alright, alright. Right? Totally. But it's got all the synthesizers that were happening from Gary Wright and people in those
Starting point is 01:37:35 in that era, it was becoming more and more prevalent in the sound of the pop radio. And this dude, Alan O'Day is the singer and the writer. It was his first hit as a singer, but he already had it. This song went to number one. He had a number one hit from Helen Reddy,
Starting point is 01:37:50 a song called Angie Baby, which was a huge song that I loved when I was like- Which is almost an angel song, too. Almost, yeah. Angie Baby. Angie Baby. Yep. So this song came out.
Starting point is 01:37:59 He recorded this on his own. Before he even released an album, he released this as a single, and it went up the charts like zoomed up the charts it's a great song produced by a guy named Michael Amardian who was a keyboard player
Starting point is 01:38:10 that I've known for years as a session musician and I didn't really know he was a producer before that he played accordion speaking of accordion again he played accordion
Starting point is 01:38:18 on Piano Man for Billy Joel which I think is cool that is cool produced this song kind of a forgotten number one, though. Same thing. It's what I was just about to say
Starting point is 01:38:27 going back to your other angels. I never hear this fucking song. No. So it was, yeah. This should be on any classic hit station. If it's playing 70s songs, for sure. Yeah, if it's doing 70s, 80s, 90s,
Starting point is 01:38:39 which a lot of them do, whether it's Bob or whatever, Bounce or whatever the names are or Boom or whatever there's a bounce now too right yeah yeah Bounce is out of Hamilton
Starting point is 01:38:50 but it's funny because I feel like the songs of course that I picked it's my era like we're only going to pick what comes into our minds no I know
Starting point is 01:38:56 but for me you picking Teen Angel song is an instinctive thing for you with angels in your life and in your world for me Angel songs
Starting point is 01:39:04 like with Angel in the title came pretty naturally too but you only refer to what you've angels in your life and in your world. For me, angel songs, like with Angel in the Tidal, came pretty naturally too. But you only refer to what you've got in your world. Okay, so I'm about to kick out the final jam. I just want to point out an artist has been Hanson'd. Rob, do you know what that means when an artist gets Hanson'd? Is it the same as being Rickrolled? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:21 When there's an obvious pick kind of hanging in there. There's two that have been. Really? Well, okay. What do you think it is? Do you want me to tell you? Well, no, because I do have one to go, but the big one I'm thinking of is Sarah McLachlan. Sarah McLachlan, Angel, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Yeah. That's Hanson. I left it off. Yeah, okay. Yeah. But what's the one you're thinking of, Bob? Angel Eyes, Jeff Healy. You know what?
Starting point is 01:39:38 Yes. And that one's even got an FOTM connection. You didn't have Jeff Healy's Angel Eyes? No. Oh, that's two Hansons. We double Hanson this. Now, how do you get the name Hanson?
Starting point is 01:39:48 What's the Hanson connection? Because Hanson the band. Pandemic Fridays. We had a series of, it was funny, because the reason the name came about is because we did
Starting point is 01:39:56 brother bands or sibling bands. It was brother bands and no one picked Hanson. So we go, how come no one picked Hanson? Then we did boy bands like the next week
Starting point is 01:40:03 and no one picked Hanson. And then we said, it became the term for when there's an obvious pick, and no one picks it, and they get Hanson. So Sarah McLachlan, Angel Eyes, Jeff Healy. Yeah, no, two big ones. But okay, so. Girl, you're looking fine tonight. Yeah. Which is ironic, because he's blind, right?
Starting point is 01:40:19 That's right, I know. Did you see his video? That's why his song, See the Light, was there. Yeah, it was always strange. I love that. Oh, that's a great jam. Yeah. See the Light, was there. Yeah, it was always strange. I love that. Oh, that's a great jam. Confidence Man. Was that the name of the album?
Starting point is 01:40:29 I know there's a big single, Confidence Man. But See the Light might have been the name of it. What do you got then? All right. I do have a Canadian artist. And I feel an artist that doesn't get the love it deserves is this artist, this band, okay? I'm curious now. Let's take it home.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Let's go local. I mean, Jeff Healy's local, but let's do this. Just drink it in with your Great Lakes. Just soak it in on a Sunday night. Ah. Oh, yeah. And sometimes just plain mad. I need him to keep me satisfied.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I said, Papa, don't cry. Because it's all right. And I see you in some of his ways Though he might not give me The life that you wanted I'll love him the rest of my days A misguided angel hanging over me Heart like a game, pure and white as I am Soul like a lucifer, black and gold like a piece of lead
Starting point is 01:42:54 One of the great Toronto bands. Yep. I totally forgot about this. Cowboy Junkies. Yeah. In fact, Tobias Vaughn is on the live chat. He says he's seen this band in a couple of weeks. Yeah, they're touring right now, right? That's cool.
Starting point is 01:43:08 You should see them at the Gladstone on a weekly basis, just jamming out. Yeah, hanging out there in the main area there. And Tobias Vaughn says, this is a great choice. That's all the validation I needed right there. Leslie says, great song. I'd forgotten about it. Okay. Beautiful song, right. Leslie says, great song. I'd forgotten about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Beautiful song, right? A hauntingly beautiful song. Yeah. A song, by the way, doesn't even have its own Wikipedia page, this song. Yeah, I believe that. Jokororu says, good evening, all. Good evening to Jokororu.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Jokororu? I hope I don't have extra syllables in there. Okay. If I do, sue me. All right, so this is from the second studio album by the Cowboy Junkies, The Trinity Session. So not actually a studio album because it was recorded live. Oh. 100%. In a church.
Starting point is 01:43:55 This man knows his shit, okay? They recorded it inside the Church of the Holy Trinity. Very angel-like for them to do that. And the band is like circled around like a microphone. Yeah. And the band is circled around a microphone. Yeah. It's the church on Bloor Street, right? Yeah. I saw Jeff Buckley play there once. Oh, wow. I was going to say, I saw Chantel Carvillazza,
Starting point is 01:44:13 but Jeff Buckley's way cooler. He opened for Ridley Funeral Home. That's beautiful. Wow. It is an amazing place. But I'm listening to this thinking, oh, I can hear that space. For sure. You can tell this is not a studio. I'd love to hear this on vinyl, right?
Starting point is 01:44:30 With an analog system. I don't think they have it at PlayDirect here, actually. No, maybe not there, but somewhere. So now that we know, live on the floor in a church, listen again. A lot of accordion today. Church, listen again. A lot of accordion today.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Accordion jams. Is that next month? We could do it. Well, Spirit of the West. I would do accordion jams. Really? Yeah, no, he's not a fan. I could. I think we have to now.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Oh, no. That's a tough one. I don't know if I could pick three. I know. It's part of the fun. Oh, you know what? I could do, actually. John Mellon.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Well, I married into an Irish family. I could find lots. Oh, I could do an accordion dance. Oh, man. Really, you need to marry into a Polish family. Oh, the Irish, like they're... Do they? Oh, the accordion?
Starting point is 01:45:20 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they were... The Dubliners. Okay. Yeah. That's true. Oh, the accordion? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:23 The Dubliners. Okay. Yeah. Imagine being in that studio or that church when... It's unbelievable. Hauntingly beautiful song. Yeah. Great job. Written by the siblings.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Margot and Michael Timmons wrote this song. Of course, that's Margot's haunting voice there, but you can hear Michael in there, too. And the song is... A single take. They don't stitch it together and cheat. And the name of the song, I don't think you've actually said. Misguided Angel.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Yeah, there you go. Okay. Apparently, so this is the lore, is that they are doing this in the church and they need more time to get this right because they're doing it in a single take. And to get stuff done, they pay the security guard
Starting point is 01:46:05 25 bucks or something to get two more hours of time in the church and then look what happened here. So beautiful but I will shout out this album
Starting point is 01:46:12 because this album has a cover. Oh Sweet Jane's on it. Yeah of course. This is amazing. Right. And I'm trying
Starting point is 01:46:20 because we're in like 88 or something now and I think I think I discover Yeah. This song? Sweet Jane. Sure. Yeah probably. Yeah. A lot of people like that. Because of Cowboy Junkies. And I'm trying, because we're in like 88 or something now, and I think I discover Sweet Jane. Sure. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Yeah. A lot of people like that. Because of Cowboy Junkies. Yep. Yep. For sure. And you hear it. This is a gorgeous song, too.
Starting point is 01:46:33 This is, again, talking about posthumous discoveries, because then everybody's like, well, for people of our generation, you're like, who's Velvet Underground? And you work backwards. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Right. No, there's no shame in that. The only heroin I'll take, the only heroin I'll do
Starting point is 01:46:45 is Heroin by Velvet Underground. There you go. I didn't realize this. Is this a one take as well? Probably. Like from the same album? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I did not know that.
Starting point is 01:46:55 I mean, they might have done it. They might have done it several times. Right, but this particular version. What's interesting is I think I just first discovered this song. It was on one of the Oh, What a Feeling compilations. Wait, wasn't... Is that true? I thought. It was on one of the Oh, What a Feeling compilations. Wait, is that true?
Starting point is 01:47:08 I thought Misguided Angel might be on Oh, What a Feeling. But I think there's two of them, though. There's the black one and the silver one. There's two volumes. The first one I had. But much music played Misguided Angel a lot. Yes. But I'm almost positive.
Starting point is 01:47:20 There's two Oh, What a Feeling CD collections. And I think this is on the second one. That's cool. One was like the 25th anniversary. One was the 30th or something. I'm on one of those. You're on...
Starting point is 01:47:30 Twice, I think. For sure. And there's a Honeymoon Suite. For sure you're on those. Yeah. I'll bring them in for you to sign next time. I know you won't.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I still have them. Do you? Oh, yeah. I keep some... I probably got about 300 CDs still. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh, Bob, I... I meant to bring you some stuff, actually. Okay, well, bring me shit. I will, I still. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh, Bob, I...
Starting point is 01:47:46 I meant to bring you some stuff, actually. Okay, well, bring me shit. I will, I will. I need stuff, okay? But I was going to tell you, I biked over to the Roxy Hotel on... What was that? Last week.
Starting point is 01:47:56 You mean the Tim Hortons, where the Roxy used to be? No. What are you talking about? Queen and... It's near Queen and Spadina. It was west of there, I suppose.
Starting point is 01:48:07 West of the Horseshoe on Queen. Okay, yeah, yeah. Roxy Hotel and Blues Bar or whatever the fuck it's called. I went there and I recorded in a little tiny hotel room,
Starting point is 01:48:19 which had no bathroom, by the way. Yes. And it was $300 for the night. And the guy who had rented it for the night was your colleague.
Starting point is 01:48:26 My coworker. Bill Walichka. My coworker, Bill Walichka, who does the morning show at Global TV Kingston, who's been on Bob's Basement. Amazing. And also was the host of the Intimate Interactive with Gord Downie that I
Starting point is 01:48:39 asked a question at. Did you? I was there. So we covered that in great detail that moment that you're describing not not last week no we've talked about zoom we did i did a bill zoom during the covid and then i did a in person last week that's right yeah and we didn't have a chance to talk about that no that's fine we don't need to talk about it every person with bill uh was really cool because it's like i was feeling kind of punchy i had a long
Starting point is 01:49:02 ride that day and i was i I had biked to East York earlier in the day. I saw that. You passed right by my house. So it's like, I just like did my thing or whatever and it turned out really well.
Starting point is 01:49:10 So Bill Wilichka last week. Bill's one of the good guys in the industry and he's very, you know, his book is called something about, a happy has been.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Happy has been. Really? Yeah. I gotta read it. Yeah, it's really good. I can lend you my copy. I got a copy upstairs. I'll lend it to you. Yeah, because I read it for the interview. Okay. And I have got to read it. It's really good. I can lend you my copy. I've got a copy upstairs. I'll lend it to you. I read it for the interview.
Starting point is 01:49:28 I have a signed copy upstairs. He literally, when I work out of Kingston, not from home, I see him all the time. He does the morning show there. The equivalent of breakfast television here. He's completely happy with what he's doing. It was like, oh man, you were on this national. You were much more music.
Starting point is 01:49:42 He was in Ottawa for a bit he's bounced around he meant in ottawa then kingston and you know there's the old be a smaller market will be a big fish in a small pond totally right and he is and he's respected and he gets to do what he wants that's awesome on the show like the rex not the roxy why i don't know why you're talking about the Roxy. I don't know. The Roxy is the old Allenby, which the Roxy used to be at. It was a was a theater at Greenwood and Dan for Roxy and they used to show. Yeah, on Friday for years. It was one of the Toronto theaters that showed Rocky Horror Picture Show every Friday night with throw toast. Yeah, then when you throw toast, there we go, drop it all And it's not, but it's now,
Starting point is 01:50:27 it is now a Tim Hortons Esso. Wow. And it's, and they put the old facade up at least. Yeah. And it looks like it was, because before it was the Roxy, it was the Allenby.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Okay. And it was like built in the forties. And now it's an Applebee's. And now, yeah, practically it's an Applebee's. You are correct, sir. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:50:39 the Roxy, I don't know. That's why I didn't know what you were talking about. Yeah. No, the Rex is very different. I fucked up. It won't be the last time
Starting point is 01:50:45 okay so any final thoughts here as we put a bow on the Angel Jams I thought we heard some great music I think you need to watch Grease that's one takeaway
Starting point is 01:50:54 from this episode for sure Grease is worth seeking and watching are you sure because like we've already established that I'm not really
Starting point is 01:51:00 that excited by these musical theaters it's a cute film though but do you appreciate what something, like the value of a pop culturally iconic film? I, okay, I liked
Starting point is 01:51:13 what's the one? What's the one of the big plant that grows little shop of horrors? Which was never a Broadway play. Oh, is that never? It started as an off-Broadway. Also did that in grade 12. Did you? I was never a Broadway play. Oh, is that never? It started as an off-Broadway. By the way, I also did that in grade 12.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Did you? I was Mr. Mushnik. Oh, jeez. You'll be a dentist. No, that was, yeah, that was the dentist. That was Steve Martin. I was Mr. Mushnik, and that was the guy who owned the flower shop. And he wanted to adopt Seymour.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Wow, Seymour. That's right. Okay. Tobias Vaughn, another quick fun fact. He says, Nash the Slash lived upstairs at the Roxy. At the Roxy? Theater? Oh, that's interesting. Tobias Vaughn knows his shit.
Starting point is 01:51:52 That's really cool. He means the Roxy. Yeah, like the old theater. I believe that. Leslie says I should watch Grease with my kids. Yes, that's what I say too. Now, it depends on how old they are because there is the whole thing of where she thinks she's pregnant. My kids know where babies come from. Sure, okay.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah, yeah. And it also is weird because it is a bunch of people who are supposed to be in high school, and they're all in their 30s. They're all 28. Yeah, that's true. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so takeaways. 70s-style high school children.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Takeaways, a lot of great Angel songs. Yeah. Yeah, really good songs, like neat variety of songs. Good variety. Yeah. Okay, before Lois to the Lo plays this out, do you want to have a quick on-air meeting about next month's topic? Do you have
Starting point is 01:52:32 any ideas? I would do accordion jams. Can we come up with nine accordion jams? Well, that's part of the challenge. Nine unique accordion jams. I think that's part of the fun. Accordion to the rules, we need nine. Get the fuck out of here um i could do it like i feel like uh the smaller the universe the more interesting it can be like uh i i don't need you know i have to do it be like i have oh jams with
Starting point is 01:52:57 a in the title like a is like i'm looking for an artist named johnny accordion yeah right just that way it makes sense. Okay, so. I got two off the top of my head. Yeah, see? Yeah. I think this is our topic. I don't know if people are interested in accordion jams is the question.
Starting point is 01:53:13 What the sellable. Are you ready for this? I don't care. I don't care. I also like it when the next month's topic organically comes out of the. Yeah, it's true. That's what happened here. That's what happened last time.
Starting point is 01:53:23 The angel jam. Although at some point, but I think we should save it maybe for warmer weather. But I do want us to do Yacht Rock because the original Toasted Yacht Rock was very popular. It was very controversial, wasn't it? It would be very interesting if we just pretended that didn't happen and we did our own Yacht Rock. Sure.
Starting point is 01:53:40 But not next month. Okay. I feel like Yacht Rock is spring or something. And we'll do that in the backyard. Yeah. In the spring. We'll do Yacht Rock in the spring. May or June or month. Okay. Don't. I feel like Yacht Rock is spring or something. Yeah, we don't want to do Yacht Rock in October. And we'll do that in the backyard. Yeah. In the spring. We'll do Yacht Rock in the spring. May or June or something. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Yeah, yeah. Okay. Did you have a good time? Good time. I had a lovely time. I appreciate it. Rob, I love my gift. I love it.
Starting point is 01:53:56 You're welcome. It's going to become more and more useful as time goes on. You fold it up. You take it with you everywhere. There you go. Look at that. Yep. Done.
Starting point is 01:54:02 When Royal Wood is here tomorrow, that name is on his birth certificate, by the way. But when he's here tomorrow, I'm going to just be staring at my phone the whole time. Yeah, you go. I've got this great smartphone holder here. Okay. Bob, you're looking good. I'm glad you didn't get COVID. Yeah, I think I'm all good.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I think I made it through. Shout out to Kingston. Rob, let me know if you develop symptoms. You let me know as well. We'll confer. Text me. It's not raining, by the way. I never did.
Starting point is 01:54:30 It never rained? No. It doesn't rain at Ports. Could have been outside. I know. You never did take your shirt off. You didn't go tarp self. I plowed through.
Starting point is 01:54:37 You also didn't do your... I went for you to do it. I know. I'm teasing you. Oh, okay. And that brings us to the end of our 1,000. it i know i'm teasing you okay and that brings us to the end of our 1327th show you can follow me on twitter i'm at toronto mike bob is at bob willett it's like gillette with a W. Rob Pruce is at Rob Pruce
Starting point is 01:55:05 with an X at the end. Rob, there was a guest on Humble and Fred last week that I booked. Church of Trees. Oh, yeah. Bernard Fraser. Brad Fraser.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I listened to that episode. Yeah, Bernard Fraser. And I sent in your remix. Thank you for playing that. Yeah. And I heard Humble Howard butcher your last name. I don't know if you caught that.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Yeah, but he got it right eventually, I think. Well, he tried it a few times. Yeah, he tried. I should have given him the phonetic pronunciation. I like listening to it, though. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta.
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Starting point is 01:56:04 that takes place in Milton, Ontario from September 23rd through Halloween 2023. Now that Bob's gone, that song was bullshit. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Finally, some truth out of you, Bruce. Seriously, that's the second time he's fucked with me. He's only been on this show, what, nine times? The twice he's fucked with me. I get it, though, but...
Starting point is 01:56:31 If he fucks with me again, I'll be shouting out Ridley Funeral Home when I talk about him. They're at Ridley FH. See you all tomorrow, and my special guest is Royal Wood. And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah, you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms us today

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