Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toast 4: Toronto Mike'd #1038

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

In this 4th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Stu Stone and Cam Gordon as they pay tribute to FOTM Becky Dinwoodie and kick out rain jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Patrons like you.

Hey Toronto Mike, it's Beck here. Huge congratulations on reaching your 1,000 episode milestone. The only 1,000 things I've accomplished is levels in Candy Crush. Reaching 1,000 episodes of a podcast is a huge accomplishment in and of itself, but what I think you should really be proud of is the community of FOTMs you've created over the years. I'm lucky enough to be part of that community. It's a group of eccentric, different, supportive, and fun individuals who have really banded together and been there for each other, especially during the last two years of the pandemic. So that is amazing. Thank you for all that you've done and for introducing me to this wonderfully wild group of people.

Congrats. One, two, three, four. One, two. 3, 4, 1, 2 September 17th For a girl I know it's Mother's Day Her son is gonna leave And that's where he will stay Wind on the weather vane Wind on the weather vane Tear and blue eyes sail on me

As false steps sing the sorrowful refrain For a boy in fiddler's green For a boy, Fiddler's Green His tiny knotted heart Well, I guess it never worked too good The timber tore apart And the water guards the world You can hear her whispered prayer Yeah

For men at mass that always leave. The same wind that moves your head. Yeah. Moves your boy through Finland's green. Suddenly, on Monday, March 28th, 2022, at the age of 48 years young, FOTM Becky Dinwoody passed away. Stu and Cam, it was only a year ago

we actually paid tribute on Pandemic Fridays to FOTM Sheila Kniecewicz who left us far too soon. But whereas the wonderful Sheila hated Pandemic Fridays, Beck loved Pandemic Fridays and loved

Toast. I can't believe she's gone. Definitely one of the worst Toronto Mike traditions I gotta say in the last couple of years. I honestly, I would have thought that this happened prior

to our last visit. I can't believe it's only been three weeks. But just the fucking tragedy. Just like honestly the worst. The worst news. Learning that. I remember seeing the DM from you like early that morning. It's just like what?

Shocking. Yeah. Shocking is right. Stu, did you meet Becky at TMLX? I did. Eight? Just like, felt like I know her even more than just seeing her at that

just because she was always in the chat room on our lives and participating and sort of in on the jokes. Just a very unfortunate thing, man. It's like, that speaks volumes about not only her,

but you, Mike. I mean, the community that you've built here where guys like Cam and I feel like we're part of the community that you've built here for guys like cam and i feel like we're part of a community that i know that beck as we call her she was part of that community and where there's daily interactions with these people there's a you know sort of like a group bond that forms and it's all kind of you're the conduit to all of that but she was one of the biggest she took to it as much as anybody you know what i mean she

she was drinking the mike kool-aid by the gallon and she she classed up uh the joint too i mean she's you like big time especially this guy over here but you know i remember uh many times where she would you know chime in and specifically you know we would be having like animated discussions about whether songs qualify or not. A lot of kibitzing. And she usually was on the right side of history with all of her opinions there. But I also remember her sort of coming to my defense with a host of other FOTMs when I was being lambasted.

Lizgate. During Lizgate. But, you know, outside of that, just, you know, like I said, the daily interactions, specifically on Twitter. Yeah. You know, just getting to know her and didn't looking and seeing, you know, when she passed, obviously going and looking to see who she was beyond the Beck that we knew. The little slice of Beck that we had, which was a great slice. So I can only imagine the rest of that cake was probably amazing.

Because, you know, it was very... I wouldn't have pegged her to be... Apparently she was like a scientist or something. She was a lawyer. Yes. She had like a lot... Was she hanging around a bus? She lived in Europe.

She was in the Cayman Islands for years. Yes, that's what I'm saying. She was like some Mensa type... Like some... She was just some... Wayman Islands for years. That's what I'm saying. She was like some Mensa type. Like some, she was just some way too bright for us. We spend like three years debating if Gowan was played on CFO. Why we still haven't gotten a fucking answer on that. And she's like doing like serious.

Okay. So, so yeah, I mean, it's just remarkable that someone like, you know, don't judge a book by its cover. And there's a great example. There's a person that in the context that we know her, we, that seems like a secret

life to me that she's doing all this crazy stuff. And it's like, she's slumming it with us. The fact she would be like so engaged because not only was she's on Twitter and the live chat, by the way, I'm pointing to live.torontomike.com where people, FOTMs are gathered. And I can see her name on the left. She had the username Beck. I was chatting with Ian Service earlier today. We're going to do something.

I don't know how we memorialize that, but a different color, a special emoji, something. But so that when you come to live.torontomic.com and you see Beck's name, it rings out because she was truly a ray of light. This is kind of like, that's almost like I feel like City News still has a Mark Daly on the credits. Yes, on the website.

You're right. Kind of similar. But just a lovely person and that's easy that's not easy for me to say about anybody. Right. Because people especially in interactions that I have with people to have someone that has a spotless record like she and I had together.

I mean, it's listen, I know beyond that, her only flaw to think about though, to put in perspective, yeah. To think about how loved she was by, and still is by the community of friends of Toronto,

Mike, the community here, scale that, scale that to like the people that knew her outside of this, which is a lot more people. And I'm sure she was loved by a ton of people i approve the ratings so so it wasn't just us that was shocked right and i want to send out my sympathies to the people that you know who the hell are we there's people that were her family her friends her co-workers her loved ones these are the people that i want to send and I know Mike and Cam do as well

love to them and get through this tough time because as hard as it is for us I can only imagine how you know someone

we found so nice she was probably even a bigger shining light in so many other people's lives so to those people you know condolences

I don't even know the proper word to say way way way way too young unbelievable young and she's with Gord maybe who knows you know, condolences. I don't even know the proper word to say. Way, way, way, way too young. Unbelievably young. Just awful. And she's with Gord maybe. Who knows?

Well, this is it. I was thinking, what do I play for Beck? Because I played, I put in the feed her talking about why she loved World Container

by the Tragically Hip. So that's in the feed right now. You can go hear Beck's voice telling us why she loved that song. And I was thinking, you know, she loves, she's just madly in love with the Tragically Hip and I was thinking what is an

appropriate song and Fiddler's Green was my first thought so she got to see you land on the cover of the Toronto Star that's right so I just want to address okay so this terrible news was delivered to me by her brother Rob and I know her parents and are hopefully listening right now and I just want to address, okay, so this terrible news was delivered to me by her brother Rob, and I know her

parents are hopefully listening right now, and I just want her family to know how much we loved Beck, and what a regular part of our you know, we had Pandemic Fridays every week, and we looked forward to seeing that I'm looking now, the Beck

name with the green ball next to it. But I also think, Mike, we're speaking, the words we're saying now for her family and friends who may be listening to this, which I hope that some of them do because they should hear that people loved Beck just as much as they did. Right.

But I think that Cam and myself and Mike, we're speaking on behalf of all of the FOTMs here. I think by proxy, we have that authority to say that everybody felt the same way. I never saw anybody talking shit about this girl. And in this universe especially on Twitter which is like, Twitter is a place where you shit

on people. Well, you can. Free speech. She was like, you know, she's on a pedestal. She was never, not an ill will just a positive experience with everybody had ill will. I just, you know, just a positive experience with everybody had with her.

And Cam, Stu, these are lovely words. I'll say, you know, we only got these last couple of years. It's like the last two and a half years we had Beck as this like key member

of the FOTM community and it was beautiful. In fact, before I forget right now, I'm just going to crack a cold burst from Great Lakes beer because I think Beck's on it. I'm going to join you.

We'll pour one out. Should I crack one and take a swig just in honor? Pass a can to Stuart. Which is the worst one? I'm only doing this for Beck. Which is the worst one? Give him a lager. This is a lager for Beck because I don't do this. This is for Beck.

I never would do this, but for Beck I would. Right on the mic. Amazing. To Beck. I just want to share that I have like my life as like bookends of Beck. Okay, Beck bookends because I knew her.

I knew her in high school. You have to look someone in the eye when you toast them. Okay. I acknowledge you. I want in on this. Cheers. I acknowledge you.

To Beck. Mike, didn't you hear what I said? You're supposed to look eye contact when you toast someone. There you go. I love looking in your eyes. I'm teaching you something. You know go. I love looking in your eyes. I'm trying to say that I knew Beck in high school and she was way too

classy and nice to hang with my crew, but she was just this lovely person in the hallways and in classes. Well, we do have photos of her drinking in the park with us. That's right. She did the highs and the lows. That was TMLX8, right? I did know her in high school.

And then when we, it turns out we went to the same university, but we didn't know it. That was a big darn university, U of T there. But I didn't see her again. That's right. So I knew Beck in high school at Michael Power. And she was, again, a ray of light then.

And then many, many, many years where I was Beck-less. And then suddenly Beck was back in my life two and a half years ago. And as I said on that episode 1000, reunited and it feels so good. So I've been thinking so much of Beck since I got this terrible news. I'd think about her anyway. But this is for Beck. This episode is for Beck. And Beck will never be forgotten.

I miss the shit out of Beck. And if we were going to count down the top Becks, you've got Beck. Howie Beck. You've got Jeff Beck. You've got Beckers. The old snack shop. We have Rod Beck. Nice Fu Manchu.

But I think none of those... I think our Beck is number one. Can we all agree on that? Our Beck is easily number one. Totally. Right? Can we all agree on that? Our Beck. Easily. Is easily number one. We miss you. A little piece of toast. Because there's so much to choose from. There's brown bread, white bread, all sorts of wholemeal bread.

It comes in funny packages. We're writing on the side. But it doesn't matter which one you have. Because when you cut the crust off, have it with marmalade or butter, cheese, tomatoes, beans, banana, or chocolate. If it's strange, it doesn't really matter. Oh, no, it all goes with toast. Just toast.

After a long and dreary five-month absence. The Pandemic Friday crew of Toronto Mike. Stu Stone. and Cam Gordon are back. FOTMs rejoice. This is Toast. Okay, scrape that toast, boys. That's toast Yeah, that's toast Welcome to episode 1038 of Toronto Mic'd. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. A fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times, and brewing amazing beer.

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Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. Hello, Mike. Hey, Mike. How are you? Good to see you guys again. One month is a long time to wait to see your beautiful faces.

And you know, well, that's your decision, but also I want... It's Cam's decision. I was gonna... Okay, anyway. You got this new camera set up for those that are watching on live.toronomike.com. Can you do a screen capture?

I think you have... Somebody do a screen capture. You got to move these posters to that wall, and now you've got new real estate to sell advertising on here. And it's so appropriate that Gord Downie is on that wall for Beck. Is that Gord? That's Gord, yeah. Is that Gordo?

That's Gordo, my friend. This poster is quite something. The Kanaka band. By the way, yesterday was 420, and there was going to be an Andy Palalas and Stu Stone 420 ep, and we couldn't put it together. My fault, my fault.

But we should do something soon, Stuart, in the backyard. Hep C wasn't available? Cream? You know, I was thinking about who's the biggest pothead of the FOTMs, and you know who we didn't talk about

who might be the biggest pothead? Canada Kev. That would be a good suggestion. Why does he get pegged with that? Canada Kev? Yeah. He talks a lot about weed, man. Like he loves weed, loves to smoke it, loves to talk about it.

So he'd be okay with that. Yeah, he owns that. But I'm thinking of Ill Vibe. Ill Vibe is always high. Okay, yeah. Shout out to Illy. Speaking of Illy, we're going to get into this. I want to just do a little Ridley Funeral Home off the top.

Didn't we just do that to open the show? That was to somebody we knew in person. She was wearing a Toronto Mike shirt in the public park we met in after team. That's different. Now I want to ask you guys about a couple that we've lost. One. Robert Morris. Well, Robert Morris.

I love, you're a Mad Men guy too, right? Love Mad Men. Shout out to Bert Cooper. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Gilbert Gottfried. Stu, you must have worked

with Gilbert Gottfried in your illustrious career. I didn't necessarily, well, I guess I, I mean, if I was on the same bill that he was on. That's close enough. Yeah, but, I, I mean, if you, if I was on the same bill that he was on. That's close enough.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, the crazy part about Gilbert is that you have a whole, look at this crew, man. Norm, Bob, Gilbert, Louis, these guys were boys, man. Brutal. Especially Gilbert and Bob and Norm. And I guess Louis too. I mean those guys were boys

and within six months they're all gone. I know. He was just in Toronto. It's so weird. He was just in Toronto. This is one of those situations similar to Neil Peart's where they don't reveal the man is sick. So clearly he was sick. But that's what happened to Norm too.

Correct. That's exactly right. We didn't know Norm was sick. But that's what happened to Norm too. Correct. That's exactly right. We didn't know Norm was sick. So it was so sudden to us. But for the family, they do, you know. It's sad, man. And I'll tell you a fun fact that people probably know this. But you never know.

Sometimes they don't. Hit me. But, you know, I've obviously. Well, first off, unrelated to my fun fact, my brother-in-law, Adam Rodness, big Gilbert fan. He has a video of Gilbert kind of roasting him. Is it a cameo? Because Gilbert was big on the cameo. Yeah, so this might have been before cameo, but like where you could still like if you knew the right person, Gilbert would like send you a video.

Like he was kind of that guy. Like for like 50 bucks, he's like down for whatever. He was kind of that guy. For like 50 bucks, he's down for whatever. So there's a video that Rodness has where he's like, Adam Rodness, always pitching me in his Mark Weisblot voice. We'll get to him. And he was always up for something like that.

But anyway, the fun fact that people probably know, though, but it blew my mind, is like in the quote unquote green room, you know, we're sitting there and, you know, Gilbert's like pocketing, like there's like little prepackaged nuts and stuff. This is in the documentary, all the shampoos he'd take from like hotels. Oh, so that's all true. I never saw the documentary. Big time. But he's like taking like four bags of peanuts and putting them in his pocket.

Like anything that's not nailed down. But that's not the fun fact. He owns that the way Canada Kev owns his weed. So that's not the fun fact. The fun fact was when we said hello to him, he's like, hello. Oh, yeah, he does his normal voice. I'm like, what? He's like, what's going on?

There is a voicemail he left for Bubba Booey that's on YouTube. So it was all a work. And it's brilliant. It's very hard to do that. And I'll tell you, because you look at someone like, I don't know, Bobcat Goldthwait. Right. Right?

That's a good example. Emo Phillips. Emo Phillips. Sam Kinison to a certain extent. Sure. A little yelling, yeah. But Gilbert Gottfried, you thought that was really,

that wasn't a bit. That's how he talks. I'm surprised in the green room he would let him drop it. Well, he was amongst his contemporaries.'m surprised In the green room He would let him Like drop it Well he was amongst You know His contemporary If it was just me and him

He probably wouldn't have dropped it Put it that way So I'm going to Okay so Gilbert Godfrey The Great Loss Gilbert Godfrey Very funny guy We lost someone else

I just want to recognize Because again With these monthly Did he play on this track? This is from the He played I don't know if he did you should look that up he toured this album for sure over godfrey i'm talking about i know i know i'm doing the math in my head so the first album is old dave this is the follow-up and it's the

guy he fires or whatever i feel like that that guy did this album, but then Taylor took over for the tour? Right, and then the tour for this is Taylor Hawkins. Okay, so just... I'm sorry. That was fucked up of me. I just ruined it. You're playing a Foo Fighters song. I'm calling out that he's not playing on the... No, that's what we do, man. I ruined it.

It's okay. I thought that delirious laughter, you were turning into the fucking Joker or something. No, no, no. Diabolical. I was just like laughing at the awkwardness. You know, Cam doesn't like laughter. No. Yeah, this isn't a joke.

No more laughter. No more jokes. Did you know, before we talk about Taylor here briefly, did you know Cam Gordon has never seen an episode of Saturday Night Live? That's not possible. That's not true. I mean, like I've seen like clips of him, but I've never like sat and like watched.

I'm going to sit up and watch it. I said, hell, I'm going to have a good laugh. Don't you think that's fucking amazing for a 40-something-year-old guy? Why would I fucking watch it? He goes to sleep early. No, I did watch all the Saturday night's main event. Yes, you stayed up for that. Totally. You'd think he'd...

Eddie Murphy, nothing? You'd think he'd stick around... That's crazy. ...for the musical guests. Well, he is head of comms, not head of comedy. That was good. Okay, so Taylor Hawkins, only 50 years old.

Which is funny because he's one of the funniest guys I know is Cam. Yeah, I like to laugh. For someone that doesn't like to laugh, he's very funny. He's a good straight man. Yes.

No, he's funny. He's funny. We're all funny. Dry wit. There's a dry wit there. He's not ha-ha funny. No, he is. He is.

Dry Ernie wit. See? Shout out to Mother's Pizza. Good bid. Ernie Wignell. Surrealist comedy. Shout out to Obisform. Yes.

There you go. I always wanted an Obisform. Shout out to Milk. Did you have that? Did I pitch this to you? Did I pitch the Obisform episode? Boy, this Taylor Hawkins tribute is really chomping the shark. Hold on.

Cam, this is important. Did I pitch the Obisform deep dive with you? I'm sure I did. Yes, you did mention this. I have this idea, and I go on these bike rides, and it all formulates. I want to do a two-and-a-half-hour deep dive into Obisform. I have so many. I wanted one.

Name one. I talk about it. Name one thing. I'm here to talk about it. The guy was murdered in an unsolved murder. I didn't know that. That sounds like a doc. Yeah.

This is a doc. I'm telling you. This is a story. Wait, the know that. That sounds like a doc. Yeah. This is a doc. I'm telling you, there's a story. Wait, the Obisporum guy got murdered? Correct. How am I just finding out about this during

a Hawkins tribute? I feel like that's a spoiler alert, but this is all part of the, you know, if you want in on this, I don't have to do it with this tall bozo.

I want in on it, but it's kind of a package deal. You could call it Back in the Day because it's like for your back. Poor Obisporum.

Okay, shout out to Ridley Funeral and we lost Taylor Hawkins. That's terrible, by the way. Might have been the best singer in that band. 50 years old, one of the most famous rock stars on planet Earth in a time when rock and roll is not really being, is not in the... Rock and roll is dead. It's not dead, but this guy, you guy, if you name five rock bands right now,

you'd be lucky if you could name one member of the band, let alone the drummer. Taylor Hawkins is a star, right? And lest we forget his FOTM roots, because his first gig was for Sass Jordan. There you go. He was on the Rita McNeil show with Sass Jordan, and then went to Atlantis and then to the Foo Fighters.

Anybody who's seen the Foo Fighters live in the Taylor Hawkins era, which is the last 20 years. Yeah, I've seen them live with the Taylor Hawkins. It's a real party atmosphere, but Taylor brings so much energy to the show. If you think Dave Grohl's a good drummer, obviously this guy's got to be great if Grohl's letting him drum. Right. But beyond that, he's as good.

This jam we're listening to now, that's probably Dave on the drum, right? For the recording, right? Right. But he is as good as anybody on the drums, but also, hell of a singer. He comes out, he sings Queen, he does Under Pressure. He's a good singer. If you ever saw him live, he can sing. He does, yeah.

He's singing the Freddie Mercury shit. Yeah. And then also, he does covers of Rush, where he's playing the fucking Tom Sawyer, whatever, whatever. Right. And it sounds like the shit from the, you know what I mean? Plus he just looks like a rock star. Oh, he's a handsome guy. Yeah.

Kurt Cobain, handsome face. It's terrible that he's gone. And it's Dave Grohl asked, you know, the second time he's going through this where he has like. Well, this time it's his best friend. Yeah. It's different. Yeah. Because him and Kurt didn't hang. Right.

But I will say it's interesting with Foo Fighters that the greatest drummer in the band was the singer and the greatest singer was the drummer. Yeah, that's interesting. Say no to drugs. Is that what was the official cause? Oh, he had stuff. He had a lot of stuff in his system. I don't know if they've determined exactly what

was the cause, but it was... Scary world out there, guys. Gentlemen. It is a scary world. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. I want to talk about another dead guy. This is going to be like all dead people. Okay, this is regarding the episode with 1236.

So I do a monthly recap, and we had an early April episode a couple weeks ago here in the basement. I thought he gave me COVID, but I never got COVID, so he's off the hook. I've got some COVID stuff to say. Do you have COVID? No. I should ask you before you come in. Past tense.

But my aunt does. Sandy? For the third time. Are you fucking kidding me? Okay. Just found out today. I can't handle. I'll tell you something interesting, though.

I spoke to her on the phone today. Yeah. On my way over here. Yeah. And I said, how are you? She said, I'm okay. I said, you got it again? She something interesting, though. I spoke to her on the phone today on my way over here. Yeah. And I said, how are you? She said, I'm okay. I said, you got it again? She's like, yeah.

I said, don't worry. The doctor came in and checked my heart and said that my heart is great. My heart is terrific. I said to him, if you were 45 years younger, you'd be in bed with me right now. Can you put it on the phone and we can talk? She hasn't lost her sense of humor. She's lost her sense of smell, but not her sense of humor. So shout out to Aunt Sandy.

And we won't be shouting out Ridley Funeral for her anytime soon. God forbid. But I want to talk about Larry Dane for a minute. So Larry Dane. Lawrence Dane? Lawrence Dane. I call him Larry. That's like Bobby De Niro type stuff.

Tell me, Stu, since you're the guy who worked with him, who is this Lawrence Dane? Lawrence Dane. Wow. He was the director of Heavenly Bodies. Right. Wow. A movie in which I was six years old. Six.

Okay, that answers one of our questions. Yes. Six. Six years old. I have a six-year-old, so I know what six-year-olds are like. I was six years old, and I was doing that movie. Okay. And-

Cynthia Dale was your mom. Cynthia Dale was my mom she went to power muddy dialogue uh and it was a movie that i remember going to the movie theater and seeing it on the big screen it was like a real release movie with it was a big deal like it was reviewed by cisco and ebert and leonard malton and it was like a it was a real movie jean shallot All of that. That's Entertainment Tonight, and I'm sure they featured it too. Thank you for recognizing it. And then the soundtrack had a bunch of cool shit on it.

Boys Brigade? It was sort of like if Flashdance and 9 to 5 had a baby, it would be Heavenly Bodies meets the 20-minute workout. With a bit of body heat. With a bit of body heat. Kathleen Turner. Heavenly Bodies meets the 20 minute workout with a bit of body heat with a bit of body heat and I believe it was one of Robert Lantos first kind of big forays into movies as a producer

so six year old Stu is in this movie and this comes up and Lawrence was the director I remember him being a very nice guy he already seemed to me like an older guy when I was that age, so I wonder how old he was. Sorry, Basement Dweller is in the live feed.

That's fine. And he says, finally, a truthful age admission. There you go. In honor of Beck. I will say, though, six years old, I probably looked four. Let's not bury the lead here. There's a scene where you're asking your mom, Cynthia Dale, about orgies. What's an orgy?

Because it's in a book or something. Right. Tom Sawyer. Now, let's fetch the guns. Speak your mind. Huck, no. Huck, leave them there. I know all the lines still.

My mom made me learn the lines. I knew everybody's lines. Shout out to Trudy. Yeah. I have a six-year-old. I literally know six-year-olds well. There's a six-year-old upstairs right now. She reads Tom Sawyer.

If my six-year-old came to me today and asked, Daddy, what's an orgy? I wouldn't think twice about it. What would you tell him? I would tell her something similar to what fucking Cynthia Dale told you, actually. Like about, it's when... Remember the story I told you about a man and woman? Yeah, like it's basically something adults do.

Do adults do? Is that something adults do? No, I'm curious. Some of them do. I'm looking at Cam. Cam looks like an orgy guy. It's a past life. It's like, what is it, Seinfeld?

You're not an orgy guy? I've never been an orgy guy. I can't. There's a lot to focus on there. You know, I've got a lot going on here. Comment section explains. But Mark Weisblatt was of the opinion that maybe this was like, somehow it was some inappropriate

that Lawrence Dane wrote these words for young Stu to say. What are your thoughts on this, Stuart? I mean, listen, at that age, I didn't know what the hell was coming out of my mouth. So it was a joke for adults to laugh at,

for a kid to say things. And kids certainly say worse things if you've ever fucking seen a movie. Right. You know, kids are swearing all the time in movies. Sorry. I didn't say any swear words.

I asked my mom what's in order. I think the setup of the scene now, watching it as an adult and seeing the setup of the scene, you have Cynthia Dale laying in bed and she kind of rolls over and she's like, don't you think you've had enough, honey? I'm tired. And you think there's like a man next to her or something. And you reveal this little kid who's in a onesie reading Tom Sawyer

and it becomes this kind of funny comical moment it's pretty funny fun fact though like I was trying to tell you earlier I learned everybody's lines so if you ever watch that movie not that anybody would but if you do I'm mouthing everybody's lines

it's like I knew everybody's lines. You know who used to do that? There's footage of like, they're filming like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and Will Smith is mouthing the lines of other people. You see that? It's kind of interesting.

And then this is interesting too. This is only 30 seconds. Oh, there you go. Hey, check this out. Here's the situation. Say you're out with your boyfriend, your girlfriend, you know, you're at school,

you're at a club or something, getting busy. All right, you're just having fun You're at a club or something, getting busy. All right, you're just having fun. Somebody steps up to you, and they tell you they want to rumble. All right, now just stop for a second. Before you lose your head, get all crazy, and toss your hands up, just think. The person that uses their head can always defeat the person that's just trying to use their hands. Now remember that, because the more you know.

Wow, that was ironic. Age like milk, as they say truth truth statements cam now i turn it to you i want to hear some of your beautiful voice i know you won't laugh but uh like is there any recent episodes we should talk about the decisive episode at some point yeah well should we do should we do that wait did you just play that will smith thing just for the fun of it and with no follow-up yeah Yeah, I think it speaks for itself. I like it just hanging there. That's Will Smith.

Low-hanging fruit. It's just hanging there for everybody. Just shit that happened since we were last here. Yeah, yeah. I have a whole list of shit that happened. Mitch Chiavallo, Mike. Hey. Wow, I mean, I sort of knew most of the story, but just to hear it from a family member was intense.

But dude seems to have good perspective. What a fucked up family. I'm sorry. Just awful. I'm with you, man. I did a lot of homework. I did my homework as always. I always do my homework.

And I did like you. Of our age, I guess we have ideas that there was trauma in the Chivalo household. But until you dig in and start to realize how completely horrific it is. Three boys killing themselves, the mother killing herself two days after the funeral of the second boy. And then you realize

there were four boys. Where's that fourth boy? Well, that's Mitch Chivalo. And it was fascinating to have that conversation. There was the mention of the Gladstone Hotel at some point. It was really seedy back then. Totally why I think of William New and groovy religion

and all the music that was happening. Right. Pre-gentrification. Pre-gent, that's key. If the kids today don't realize what that place was like back in the day. The thought of someone getting murdered or dying of heroin there.

It was a seedy Parkdale heroin den. Yeah, it was like a rooming house, essentially. There are actually, there's a good documentary out there where they talk about when they started to kick out the people who were like living there for 10 bucks a day. Have you seen this? It's amazing. It's really well done.

And just wow, like honestly that seems like a hundred years ago. Like that version of Toronto, like really. Shout out to Johnny Dovercourt who is written about this lot. So yes, the Shavalo episode people should check out and I did show great restraint as you pointed out.

No shouts out to Ridley Field. And by the way, I loved like burying the Spider Jones part. I would love to see those two guys

have a convo. Have a convo. What were your thoughts on that? I was hoping he wouldn't do that. Like I smelled it coming and I gave him,

like obviously, I gave him the chance at the end to is there anything you want to say that you haven't said yet and then he went for it but i was actually really hoping you take a pass yeah right you are such a liar you fucking went fishing no i didn't go fishing like bob is do me i did i would have brought up spider in my normal i did 90 minutes never mentioned spider i was so mad when he started doing it. Yeah, you were saying, oh, this is out on the web.

This is bad radio. I don't like references to Spider. People aren't going to like this at all. No, you're being funny. We've got about eight minutes. I literally hung up with Mitch and phoned Spider and had a half an hour chat with the man. Spidey?

Spider. Spider Jones. I phoned Spider Jones right after I finished with Mitch to tell him what went down. And I said, I don't love it at all. Actually, I was hoping Mitch would take a pass. Shout out to Ridley Field. I do love, like, you're talking about the lawsuits, and you

still are saying Spider Jones. You can't sue me for that. What are you talking about? Are these guys, if they saw each other, they really, you think, would throw down? Oh, Spider's an old man. I don't think he's thrown anything down. Mitch might take a shot.

He sparred with Ali in 68, apparently, when he was like 12. Shout out to Spider Jones. Another great episode. But I wanted to talk about Decisive before we transition to the jams. And we do have jams to kick out everybody. But Decisive dropped a series of truth bombs

about Stu Stone. Stu, I won't pick on some of them, but the one I will bring up is he talked about the first time he met you, you were with your date, Kendra Jade. How come we don't know about this? I mean, that's a long time ago. But I asked him, is it a work or a shoot?

Because I'm learning, I don't know which one it is until I find out. He thinks it was real. Was that a real date or was that just for the cameras? That was a real date. This is known amongst friends of Stu.

This was not new information. I just met the man. Original. Two and a half years ago. Listen, do we talk about date you had 20 years ago? If it mean listen do we talk about date you had 20 years ago if it's a porno star that was on howard stern's show we do there peter gross is still talking about the model he banked no you are i just i just felt that we had like so many other great stew stories to share that we maybe just haven't gotten to that layer of the onion yet i guess okay so how long did you date Kendra Jade?

Was it one night or for weeks? Tell me about Stu Stone and Kendra Jade. We had a thing back then. Wow. I was younger and it was an adventurous life back then. Wow. So that's just the way that it was. I'm always learning things about Stu.

For better or for worse. You know, people get into all sorts of wild relationships when they're younger. So that would be one of them. And she is a lovely person. I'm sure she's lovely. But did Kendra Jade ever meet Trudy? She did. Wow.

Yeah. That's serious. You don't bring the girl home to meet mom until you're serious. And was there ever a thought in your mind at some point during your relationship with Kendra Jade when you thought, this is the Mrs. Stone I'm talking to. I mean, I am, we didn't get, nothing like that happened. So thankfully.

Where was this party, by the way? This party was, it was on the rooftop of some hotel. I don't remember, but it was like the EMI Canada, but like South, North by something, whatever it was. And Decisive meets you that day and the rest is history. But Michael Hollett was probably there.

You know who was there? The Sum 41 guys, I remember. Derek Weeby. And that was like kind of a big deal. She may have been there, but I remember, well, I guess she would have been there because I think they were dating or together. I bet Greg Norrie was there. Alexis Art Fire, if you know them

Dallas Green they were there George Petit Kendra was there wow okay so that was a truth bomb that I did not know

you say it's an open secret amongst the circle it's not an open secret it's just like 20 years ago we have recorded like 85 times together it's never come up

and it's never come up okay And it's never come up. She actually got married and now is divorced, but she was married to Lucas Rossi from Rockstar. We've talked about him before. We were talking about Kick earlier before you got here. And I've mentioned his name as someone that could be a lead singer for somebody's band. I've dropped his name here for sure. But he's a Toronto guy, and she was married to him for many years

so maybe you should ask him about her what was Rockstar Supernova that was like Tommy Lee and Dave Navarro Dave Navarro's band so he was like Age of Electric guy Todd Kearns or something but Lucas is a very talented singer by the way

does he have the lid off yes but he can sing like Tom York. He can sing like... I live on the second floor. He's just very talented. Let's kick out Luka Jam tonight. Okay. So, Stu, did you go...

Because you make an appearance in this episode. You literally zoom in and you talk live in this episode of Derek Kristoff, Decisive, which people really need to listen to. But did you go back and listen and what did you think of your old buddy there? I was really proud of him that he was able to come on and speak did you think of your old buddy there i was really uh proud of him that he was able to come on and speak openly about all of this you know he was an open book which was very cool and uh you know i've had i've stuck by him but it's definitely there were years where it was difficult to do that you know his dependency uh wasn't at an all-time high as far as being

dependable for a couple years but he was in scarecrows and it sounds like he wasn't at an all-time high as far as being dependable for a couple years. He was in Scarecrows, and it sounds like he wasn't. I liked him there. I didn't even know he was on drugs, to be honest with you. I just thought he was fucking being weird. But, you know, he was just trying to be like Crispin Glover or something. But maybe, you know, obviously he was on drugs. But either way, he's not anymore. He's got his shit together.

His talent didn't go away. And the music, he's always made good music. Right. And so, like, he's always anymore he's got his shit together his talent didn't go away and the music he's always made good music right and so like he's always you know that's something that he could do with his eyes closed

I thought it was great I thought it was inspiring as fuck it was because a lot of range it goes to show you a lot of brutal truths not just about someone

who had addiction and overcame it but also somebody who I consider to be one of the best, of the very best as far as talented musicians in Canada. And look at the struggle. It's not just with chemical dependency or whatever. It's just financial. It's everything. It's like the system here is broken in a lot of ways.

We have a lot of talented people that are falling through the cracks. And someone like Decisive should get way more props than he does. And so I'm happy that he was on the show and he played some new music and I love the guy. His stuff holds up too. The songs sound great. He's amazing. Very talented.

Yeah, I love him. Great guy. I only want to see you landing in the purple rain. Purple rain. Cam, what's the theme for the jams we're kicking out this week? This is songs about rain. This is very interesting, Mike. I don't know if Stu will find this interesting. I was in Canadian Tire on Lakeshore the other day. You ran to Elvis Stoico?

No, but you could get... They were actually auctioning off. This is so random. Oh, shit. That is fucking random. You can either... He's like a Wendell Clark or a Doug Gilmore thing. You can either bid on a framed photo of Prince Purple Rain opening bid $200.

And right beside it... I don't know if you know this is Maude Adams. It's like a maritime folk artist. You'd have the Prince Purple Rain concert poster. It's B. Arthur, right if you know this is Maude Adams. It's like a maritime folk artist. You'd have the Prince, Purple Rain concert poster. B. Arthur played Maude Adams? I could tell you right now. Oh, sorry, Maude Lewis. I could blow your mind right now and tell you that those easels, they're called, that you see at the supermarket.

I'll tell you off the air, but it's a whole fucking racket. Wow, that's a real talk. You can't even say it on the fucking air. Well, I just don't want to ruin the illusion. You don't have to name names. You're in the big pocket of a big easel. I'll tell you what. Big markup.

You see those easels there, right? And you go and you make a quote bid. And you write down and you put it in a box. Yeah, it's a blind auction or whatever. Oh, I thought you meant the actual easel. No, no, no. No, they're called easels. Yeah.

You go. Now, they take those things and they send them to a fucking telemarketing type office who calls you. Everybody who bids is a winner. They've got 200 of those Prince things. See, I'm glad you're telling us now. We can warn the FOTS. How much would that amount to? Where do you get that done? Everybody who bids wins, and they've got enough to sell to to everybody and they've got you saying you'll bid.

Some people put $400 or $300. They know they're going to sell it for all kinds of different prices too. Wow. It's a racket. Wow.

It's a racket. I'm going to avoid those like the plague. So Cam, to answer your great question there, I actually did a two-step process.

I can't believe I just outed that industry. I had Gilles Leblanc send me the PDFs for the pages. Okay. So the high resolution PDFs. I had them printed.

It was only $12 each to print them in color. And then I went to a custom framing place because they have a unique, we're talking about my Toronto Star pages, but it's a unique size. So I had to get them custom printed on the lakeshore. What a racket. They look great. That's a fucking racket. Can I just, this analogy that Stu will like, that article is to Mike.

Like, Stu, you remember when the late, great Owen Hart won two Slammy Awards? And he would just carry them with him everywhere. That's like Mike in that fucking article. Like, you force fit into, like, Jackie Delaney at, like, minute 80 or something. It's actually sitting in a great spot on the floor. Because, like, it makes it. Well, I don't know what to do with Gord. I'm stem-torn.

There's probably room for both you and Gord on the wall. That's a dream team right there. So I'm playing Purple Rain as an example of a great rain jam. Songs about rain. And we're going to be kicking out rain jams. And it's been raining recently. In fact, until about three hours ago or whatever, five hours ago maybe, it was fucking raining all day.

It was going to be perfect. Just like when it rained at the Super Bowl when Prince was playing. Do you remember that? I got to say, there's a ton of rain songs. I had no idea. Lots of rain songs. I bet you you could do a part two because there's literally so many. Well, yeah.

We're about to get into it with Cam Gordon's Thunder songs. Before you start his song. Ah, it's too late. No, this is actually just like a bonus jam. Okay. We never got a chance to talk about, did you guys check out John Gibbons stuff? Oh my God, I have it in my notes. So tell me what happened, because I was hoping TMDS would get the gig, but it's called Talking Points with Gibby.

No, it's just called Talking Points with Stu Stone. Okay. My notes are erroneous here. Tell us about it. Well, you know, actually, you know, Bodog, they have a very good social media presence. And the people that run that page are very clever. Yeah. And I spoke to my friend Cam and I was like, hey, do you think I should work with these guys?

He's like, they're great. Hebsey's a big fan. Engage us all the tweets. Greg Brady. So an opportunity came to host a little thing for them where I get to talk baseball with Gibby every week. So it's called Talking Points. And every week it's on the Bodog YouTube channel and on their Twitter. And I've done a few episodes with Gibby. And you'll tweet it every week.

I'll do my best. But, you know, I could probably get Gibby to come on your show. Would you? I probably could. I want him on Toronto Mike.... I'll do my best. But, you know, I could probably get Gibby to come on your show. Would you? I probably could. I want him on Toronto Mike. I probably could. Fucking yes. In a way...

And not in the same way that I promised I would hook up Wilner with Lunette from Big Comfy Couch and that didn't happen. This might actually be able to happen. Well, what did Gibby say about Vladdy? Like, he did a hundred home runs. It's like, oh, it's in the... It's possible. Yeah.

Possible. Possible. A hundred home runs. Yeah. But it's going it's in the book. It's possible. Yeah. Possible. A hundred home runs. Yeah. But it's going well. It's like Mike said, Domingo Martinez. Gibby knows how I felt about him prior to meeting him, which wasn't favorable. Right.

And it's made our chemistry like incredible. Like there's like an honesty that I don't have to pretend anything. And here's the great part. Yeah. It's a very enviable job apparently because, everybody wants a piece of Gibby. Totally. And somehow I got the fucking chance to do it. So shout out to Gibby and to Bodog and to Kim in Twitter.

I feel like Gibby's almost like George Bush Jr. Where, like, the second he's gone, everyone's, like, in love with him. Because he's a folksy Texas guy. Very similar. Like, kind's in love with him. Because he's a folksy Texas guy. Very similar. Kind of charming. And he calls me Stewie, which VPS sales has pointed out. We made the announcement. This is exciting.

A future FOTM, John Gibbons. I think I can make that happen. Okay. I want to share, before we get into these rain jams, I just want to share with the world, this is our last episode of Toast before TMLX9. Right. the world. This is our last episode of Toast before TMLX9. So I would urge all FOTMs to join me

at TMLX9 on Friday the 13th of May at 6pm in Marie Curtis Park in the edge of Etobicoke before it turns into Mississauga. I will give you more details. You can write me, Mike, at TorontoMike.com or you can DM me on Twitter

at TorontoMike. Be there or be square. I'll bring beer from Great Lakes Brewery and we will again toast back. She was at the last Marie Curtis gathering and we'll all catch up with one another and check in with each other. It'll be beautiful.

Also, my mother, Trudy, just messaged to remind me, to remind you that she went to a Prince concert. One of his last concerts. Was that at the Hummingbird Center? It was in Los Angeles at the Forum. Oh, Los Angeles. Okay.

Yeah. Wow. He went and saw Prince. She loved it. He would play like three, four hours. Yeah. Non-stop. Like non-stop.

Super jams. Non-stop. Do you want to talk about this baseball pool that there's some FOTMs in? Did you want to address that? No, I don't think so. Stu and I lost the first week. Oh, you owe me cash. And I wasn't able to set my team.

He auto-drafted Lancelin. Hey, listen, Stu, you owe Cam $60. Don't Gallagher that debt. Don't Gallagher that debt. Don't Gallagher that debt. Okay, he's paying right now. This guy's amazing. It's on the record. Cam Gordon.

There's a pink, a red one, as my aunt Sandy would say. There you go. Big bills on the outside. Thank you. A red one. That's amazing. You carry that much cash around, Dave. You never know.

The highs and the lows. The 50s and the 5s. Thank you. I got to take Kendra out later. It's not cheap. There you go. That's a mind blow. I mean, wow.

And she's a sweetheart, right? I wouldn't go that far. It was a long time ago. She's a fascinating person. Kendra's Kendra. Cameron. Yes. Did you meet her?

No. Never did? No. I figured you would have. Can you get her on Toronto, Mike? Probably could, but I don't know. Her and Gibby at the same time? That was too crazy for me.

Cameron. Yes. Are you ready to kick out the rain jams? You died six years ago today? Whoa. Is that true? That's what I'm being told by a very trusted source, Basement Dweller. You said it's Jordan Romano's birthday.

Yeah, today's Jordan Romano's birthday. Also Iggy Pop's birthday. 29. And Robert Smith's birthday. Wow. Yeah. That's the Romano's birthday. Also Iggy Pop's birthday. 29. And Robert Smith's birthday. Wow. Yeah. That's the holy trifecta. The birth, law, death.

Are you ready to kick out? Rain gems. Rain gems. You ready to kick them out, Cam? Anything you want to say before I click play on your first song? Will somebody play Phil Collins tonight? Well, who knows what'll come up? How about musicians name rain?

Rain Maida? There's one. There you go. Are you ready? Yeah. Or do you want to say something before I press play? I want to predict a song by Cam. Is he going to play like a... Okay There's one. There you go. Are you ready? Yeah. Or do you want to say something before I press play? I want to predict a song by Kim. Is he going to play like...

Okay, predict one. Let the rain fall down, down on me. What's that, Hilary Duff? Hey, Moose Grumpy, who provided us with the mascot for Toast. I'm patting Toast right now. It's so cute. It's beautiful. She just pointed out...

And by the way, she gifted me Blue Jay tickets. I went to the Jays game with my daughter. Oh, wow. I've been seeing all the teams. I'm out there, man. I'm trying to find this fucking COVID. Oh, I went to the Raptors game and they got beat yesterday. Oh, my.

Were you there? Oh, fuck. That was nuts. That's the worst. That's the worst. That was the worst. The precious free throws haunted me last night when I was trying to fall asleep. I'll see when Malachi Flynn is getting...

Guys, it's Queen Elizabeth's birthday today, too. Oh, wow. Listen, if he's birthday today, too. Stop taking... Listen, if he's on the floor, just stop taking shots. Oh, you know what? I said to Monica, I said, that man's not allowed to shoot. And I said, if he's on the floor,

how good is this team? He's like deer in the headlights. How good is this team? Scotty was hurt. I know Scotty was hurt. I know, I know. Well, now you got to believe. Can the Raptors do the reverse sweep?

It's never happened in 144 instances. I think they're gone. Look, I would bet all my Bodog dollars on the fact that they're done. Okay. But are you ready to kick out your rain jam cam? Sure am. Yeah. Light a rip.

Oh, I was. Yeah. Surprised this is number three. I thought it would be number one. I don't rank mine. He doesn't laugh and he doesn't rank. Oh, the remix. Oh, did I see it?

It's a banger regardless, man. What a jam. We're going to be shouting out Ridley Funeral Home in a minute. Woo! This is their best. I'm kind of pissed off I sang the remix. You know, I have YouTube if you want it.

It's okay. It's fine. Milli Vanilli, Blame It On The Rain. Can we at least get to the chorus? Do we need the rain? You feel like such a fool You let her walk away Now we just don't feel the same Gotta blame it on something You let her walk away. Now we just don't feel the same.

Gotta blame it on something. Gotta blame it on something. Sing along, everybody. Blame it on the rain that puts falling, falling. Hey, hey, hey. Blame it on the stars that didn't shine. Hey, hey, hey. Whatever you do. I heard his episode. Don't put the blame on you. Shout out to Dalton Pompei's dad. Hey, hey, hey. I heard his episode.

I did. Wow. Did you hear what I said? Dalton Pompei's dad, I was shouting him out. Did you hear his episode? I did. I got all the dirt about the cowboy dancer. I did. Do you think Breakfast fucking Television is trying to find out about the cowboy dancer?

You know, whatever he put his mind to, he can make it happen. The best was, why aren't you making music anymore? Ladies loved him too much. He couldn't say no. That was his response to that? You haven't heard yet. I haven't listened. Get in there, man.

But if you do need some drywall or... Get in that ass Larry okay Milli Vanilli let's do some fun facts Blame It On The Rain this was the number one hit their third number one hit

from that unbelievable first album alongside Baby Don't Forget My Number and Girl I'm Gonna Miss You surprisingly Girl You Know It's True was not a number one hit

that is surprising that's not true come on it's top five right yeah now speaking of bookends number one hit. That is surprising. That's not true. Come on. It's top five, right? Yeah. Now speaking of bookends, number one hits before this was Bad English When I See You Smile.

Oh, nice. Great story there. John Wick of the Sheriff. And right after was Billy Joel Weedon's Start the Fire. Oh, yeah. Now, do you guys know who wrote this song? This song? Like these German guys. No, no, no. That's the singers.

They're Robin Fab. But the singer, don't tell me. I used to know this because it was in a podcast. I watch stuff on YouTube where the guy does shows as the real Milli Vanilli. Oh, I've actually seen this. Who wrote this jam? It was actually Diane Warren. Oh, shit.

Really? Yeah, so listen to all these songs. That shocks me. She wrote. Her first big hit was Rhythm of the Night by Da Barge, we've talked about. Pass it to the rhythm of the night. But these are just like 1989, 1990. Look Away by Stu's beloved Chicago. I don't remember.

I Don't Want to Live Without Your Love, also by Chicago. If I Could Turn Back Time by Cher. If I Could turn back time. I didn't warn Rope, blame him on the raid. That blows my mind. She wrote Don't Wanna Miss a Thing by Aerosmith, which is their biggest hit. They're only number one. And Nothing's Gonna Stop Us

now by Starship, amongst many other songs. So how did... Wouldn't she have known that they were not singing? I don't think she'd be in this. She's not in the fucking studio. Like, she's not in the studio.

Like, what a conspiracy to like, you would think that they'd keep the circle very tight as far as like the songwriters. I feel like she's just like writing like a shitload of songs. Like, she isn't. I wonder if there's a demo. Can you look up if there's like a Diane Warren version of Blame It On The Rain that's like a leaked demo? I'd love to hear that. I mean, she wrote lots of songs. Like, you know, she's a machine.

You should see if it's out there. That blows my mind, Kim. Okay, I'm going to shoehorn the Esri geography corner in here. I'm texting my friend Eli the Creep. Okay, Stu chats with the Creep. What a creep. Milli Vanilli from Munich. Two other musicians from Munich.

I was hoping it would be like Brass or something. No, Lou Bega. Wow. Who I had no idea was German. And the other one, Harold Fatmeier. Yes. Axel F. Axel F.

Yeah, Axel F. Fletch, the original score. Exactly. Anyway, Blame It On The Rain, a song about rain. And a song that was, well, first of all, Milli Vanilli. Yeah. Frank Farian is the Milli Vanilli guy. MV.

I'll tell you what. What a fucking smash act that was. I mean, they had it all going for them. The bicycle shorts. Little Michelle on Full House used to come out and say, Blame It On The Rain, dude. Whatever. It's like transcended music.

They were like, I'm surprised there wasn't a Milli Vanilli cartoon because there was like an Everybody Else had a cartoon that I was on back then. Right. But I will say that the music, it doesn't necessarily all hold up, but it still makes you smile listening to it because it at the time it was better than everything else like as far as pop music and production and the drum programming and it was very advanced for what else was going on out there especially the use of what was primarily hip-hop sort of drums that you wouldn't hear in pop records. Right, yes. Where they were using them

for Girl You Know It's True has like the Rakim drums, you know what I mean? So it's just like very cool music. And it holds up for people who are into that type of stuff.

Like we've talked about like that Soul to Soul, like, you know, that... Written by the Torontolians. Yeah, Come Undone by Duran Duran, that specific like drum.

We could probably do an episode of just songs that have that only. See, we need to do Toast more frequently. And I think it's the Funky Worm is the drums, right? Is that that? Okay. I think that's what it is.

Not the Funky Drummer. Very good. I think it's the Funky Worm. I could be wrong. I'll be corrected if somebody hears this. Basement Dweller will correct you because he's on the ball. But holy smokes. Milli Vanilli, man.

I have memories of my father coming home with a new car that he got, which was like a Nissan 300ZX. We're talking 87. That was like a cool car. And he put on the Milli Vanilli tape.

And we would blast it. He was driving around and we would just be bumping Milli Vanilli. That's a memory. They were calling mysterious too. Like when it's like these guys are German

it's like what? Then you jump up and you chest bump each other which something Cam couldn't do. They were handsome because they were models right? Remember they were models.

They had that great hair. They wore the bike. Yeah they had the moves. It was quite the phenomenon. It looked like if someone like duplicated Terrence Trent Darby. Yes.

But put more weight on them because Terrence was like a fucking stick. That's right. He's a wishing well, which is still a great jam. He's like an asshole. I heard he's an asshole. I heard he's a fucking asshole.

Much like our own. He changed his name. To what? Yeah, he did change his name. I don't think he's called Terrence Trent Darby. I remember Jane Sibury changed her name? A lot of names change. A lot of names.

Seasons change. I'm fine, glad I found you. I don't feel like yesterday. Billy Vanilli may have played at the CNA band Shell. Yeah, probably. When you were there, not going to the Rolling Stones concert. 89 to 91. But you know what?

I would imagine if I was going to bet money on Bodog, where Milli Vanilli played a show in Toronto, I would put all of my money on Canada's Wonderland. That seems like a spot. Kingswood Theatre seems like a Milli Vanilli, like MTV jams concert. I feel like they honestly did do a package tour with Was Not Was and like two other bands. Wow, Walk the Dinosaur.

I remember this like boom. Boom. Shaka-laka-laka-boom. Wow. Okay. Cam, great start. I will tell you now in full confidence that Stu wanted that jam and I said no. Cam had it for him.

I'm going to go watch that jam. I literally had it four weeks before. Yeah, I wanted that jam. I know you did. I know you did. You ready for my first jam? And Stu, hold your fire, said no, Cam had it first. I'm going to literally add it four weeks before. Yeah, I wanted that jam. I know you did. I know you did. You ready for my first jam and Stu, hold your fire, okay?

Because I know it's coming. You ready? Yeah. Yeah. I'm singing in the rain All I can say is that my life is pretty plain I like watching the puddles gather rain And all I can do is just pour some tea for two I would like totally

I love it I just want someone to send me Oh, oh, oh, oh I'll always be there when you wait And now, you know I like to keep my cheeks dry today So stay with me and I'll have it rain Oh my God. It's pretty remarkable that in the era that this song was a hit, that it was a hit. Because it's so, you know, we're talking like grunge, heavy rock. It's 1993.

You know, and then this comes out. It's like a folky kind of like hippie jam. In the video, obviously, I'm sure you'll get into that. Sure. But not a rain song, technically. Okay. The song's called No Rain. No Rain. So how is it a rain song? Isn't it about no rain? It's a good point. It's about hoping for no rain,

but, you know, sometimes you get rain. This is absolutely a rain song. Is this a rain jam? It's called No Rain. Yeah. It's anti-rain. So is this the opposite of a rain jam? I would say this is more of like a sunshine jam. What's more inappropriate, this selection or Hero of the Day? We should leave it to the... Or coming out of our shells.

If you're listening live or watching live on live.tron, I'm like... All right, regardless, I've chosen it and I'm glad I did. Press one if you think that No Rain is an anti-rain song. It's a rain jam. Okay, listen. In fact, I bet you most of our demographic, when you say, hey, name a rain jam, most of them say, Blind Melon, No Rain. Blind Melon, No Rain. The song's called No

Rain. 1993. This is from their debut album, which was self-titled Blind Melon. And, of course, the video, which we need to speak about, because I have a bonus jam I'm going to play a little bit of. It features the B-Girl. The B-Girl character was all the rage back in 1993. Did we cover this on a pandemic Friday? We may have. Maybe. Did we the B-Girl. The B-Girl character was all the rage back in

1993. Did we cover this on a Pandemic Friday? We may have. Maybe. Did we do B-Jams? It's still exciting. So this is the only, I mean, the biggest hit of the band's career. It reached number 20 on the Billboard Hot 100, which was a big deal for a band like Blind Melon.

Written by bassist Brad Smith. There's a bassist Brad Smith. There's a lot of Brad Smiths out there. Is that a hockey player? Motor City Smitty was Brad Smith. Big playoff run. And he never wore the helmet, and that hair would blow.

That's right. Maple Leaf Gardens loved the fucker. The run of 87. Oh, my God. That was when we lost to the Red Wings in seven in round two. Is that correct? Jack Demers, I think, and John Brophy. Seems like our viewing audience is going with you, Mike.

It's a rain jam. They're saying it is a rain song, despite the title being no rain. Thank you. Thank you, FOTMs. I am the TM in FOTM. Just don't forget that, okay, Stu? The Fosses are in a different channel. They're watching a different channel. I just want to tell you a bit about Shannon Hoon,

lead singer of that jam. Dana Levinson will be my guest on the next show. Against, okay. I'll probably produce that show. Ooh. Against the advice of Shannon Hoon's drug counselor, they went on tour to support Soup, which was the follow-up to the self-titled debut. Well, my friends, on October 21st, 1995.

Doesn't Mike just love this type of stuff? Shannon Hoon. He's too messin'. 1995. Doesn't Mike just love this type of stuff? Shannon Hoon was found dead on the band's tour bus. He died of a drug overdose. And I have a couple of bonus jams. One of which I'm going to play a little bit of here. Do you guys know this song?

I've heard this before. Is that any better? So earnest. So this was a Christmas single they would send out to the 10 Club members. I was a member of the 10 Club for many years. Now, this is called B-Girl by Pearl Jam. And it's a tribute to the actress

who played B-Girl in the video for No Rain by Blind Melon. Her name is... Judy Dench. Dame Heather Deloach. What does she look like now? I haven't seen her in a while. That sounds like a clickbait article.

Like you won't believe what the B-girl looks like now. Can you find her? Sure. Mike, are you going to see Pearl Jam, by the way? I do not have tickets. Here's something interesting. I can remember in the ninth grade, or grade nine as we say in Canada. Oh.

Oh, wow. Is this my jam? It's going to be a nice segue to your Oh. Oh, wow. Is this my jam? No. It's going to be a nice segue to your jam. Oh, my God. She's like still dressing up like it. I think we have the same fucking fun facts then. I'm not going to have any fun.

I'm going to have one fun fact. Okay, there's the updated photo right there. It's like, yeah, that's pretty much what it is. Wait, ninth grade, grade nine, this song was probably really popular during that period of time. Lenny Kravitz was playing at the Maple Leaf Gardens. He said, support, are you going to go my way? Opening act, Blind Melon.

Wow. And everybody came to school the next day with Blind Melon shirts. They were taking over the hallways of Thornley, and then a few weeks later, he died. Do you guys, Cam, Stu, do you know why I'm playing Don't Cry by Guns N' Fuckin' Roses? Probably because Shannon was like the Michael McDonald of Guns N' Roses in that he sings back up on a bunch of their tracks,

including something you may or may not hear next. Right, so yes, Shannon Hoon, and you can see Shannon Hoon on the roof of that building in the video. There's helicopters and lights. Oh, right. You know, he's singing. I was trying to wait for a little Shannon Hoon.

He was like the Michael McDonald of Guns N' Roses, just a backup, nice vocalist. So here's what we're going to do. Yeah. I'm going to do a little Don't Cry, because I love this song, and I'm going to fade it out into Stu's first rain jam. Can I give one more? Of course. This is not a fun fact, but shortly after Shanahoon died, Stu and I went to a concert.

Do you want to get it? Auntie Sandy? I don't know. Just not going to be a pleasant call, maybe. Should I answer it? Yeah. Let's see. Hello.

Hi. Hey, how you doing? I'm in bed, ready for sleeping. Okay, good. I'm watching the hockey game. Hey, how you doing? Okay, good. Okay, good. Well, have a good sleep. I'm okay. Are you okay?

Well, you'll... All right, you'll do your best. She can't check her lottery tickets. Bullshit. Okay. Auntie, go to sleep and we'll talk tomorrow, okay? Yeah. I'll check the tickets for you tomorrow, okay? Okay.

Yeah. Oh, boy. Yes. I love you, Auntie. Don't worry, okay? Everything's going to be okay. No, nothing bad's going to happen. You're going to be okay.

You'll be okay. Okay. I'll talk to you tomorrow, okay? Okay, bye. You know, we all love that woman. Yeah. Like, legend. Poor lady. I love that woman. Yeah. Legend. Poor lady.

I know we're trying to have a good time kicking out some fucking rain jams, but starting off by talking about Beck and now thinking about Anthony. Don't you cry, you play, and now you're playing. Yeah. Now we're all sad.

I'm going to cry. Yeah, sad. Okay. Anyway, do you want to hear about this concert, Stu? Yeah. I went to 25 years ago. Hit me up with a concert, then we're going to do Don't Cry

fading into Stu's first jam. Anyway, it was going to be four bands. We're going to do Don't Cry, Fading Into Stu's First Jam. Anyway, it was going to be four bands. It was going to be Blind Melon Headlining with Our Lady Peace, Tripping Daisy, and Glue Leg. Bob Makowitz Jr.

He's in there for a bit. But then Blind Melon died and Our Lady Peace went into headliner status. A lot of moshing at that show i was there with two stones oh wow this is how you win there you go this is how you win. There you go. This is how you win a show about rain jams. You don't play a song called No Rain.

No Vember. Play a song called No Vember Rain. Just let it soak. Let it just fucking drench you. Shannon Hoon on backup vocals on this track as well, folks. See what I did there? Is he on this? That's called producing.

Okay. Very good. But not on the video. It's the best. I mean, it's epic. They invented the word epic for this song. And it's a long fucking intro. It's a matter of facts.

Can I see Vladdy? And Georgie Animal Steel. Thank you, Canada Kev, for my Vladdy figure. This is fun. Can I see Georgie Animal Steel? What number on the chart did November Rain go to? Was it even released as a single? It was.

Billboard Hot 100. Number three. Kev? No Rain? No, November Rain Like 27 I don't think this is a massive hit Okay, well Mike is correct Number 3

Wow That's fucking amazing It was the longest song in history To enter the top 10 of that chart At the time of its release Wow Probably beating Bohemian Rhapsody Probably

Or Live and Let Die, maybe. Who knows? Wow. Hey Jude was pretty long, but not as long as Bohemian Rhapsody. Eight minutes and 57 seconds. Wow. Wow. Now, so many fun facts.

We've covered this song in a previous Pandemic Friday, so go back and listen to that. You can get it at your public library. Oh, that was like fall jam. But I will say that some stuff worth repeating or worth revisiting, or just if you don't know, we love Around Here, Mike. We love songs where the band's like, we don't want to do this song. And then it turns out to be one of their signature songs. This is one of those songs.

Although Slash, in his autobiography, denies that fact. But Axl claims that Slash and the rest of the gang were like, we don't want to do this type of music. We want to do rock music, not ballads. And Slash was pushing this ballad idea. I could hear Duff saying that. It was Duff and Slash, apparently, that didn't want to do the song. Because it is a ballad.

Apparently, the first time that Axl tried to get this song onto the Guns N' Roses stuff dates back to 1986. The first version of November Rain that was recorded was 18 minutes long. Wow. And it never made it to, it was recorded during the Appetite for Destruction writing period. It never made the album. And Ax recorded during the Appetite for Destruction writing period. It never made the album. And Axl kept pushing for it and pushing for it. And when User Illusion comes along, here comes November Rain. Stephanie Seymour in the video.

Obviously, we know that. Epic video. Yeah. I love it. I love this fucking album and I love this song. By the way, longest song It had the longest song in the top 10 record And while we listen to the rest of this little part of the song Think about what song beat that

What was the next song to come in and beat it Is this 91 or 92? I don't know 91 It's 1992 92 But Use Your Illusion album came out in 91 92. I know. 91. It's 1992. 92. Do you see how confident I am? But Use Your Illusion album came out in 91.

That's what I'm saying because I just went to when Beck was the fucking judge for best year of music. 91 it came out, but 92 was when it was a single. Sure, because it was a later single. You Will Be Mine was a lead single from Terminator 2. Okay, let me think. You're not going to get it. It's like a lead single from Terminator 2. You're not going to get it. It's like a song that none of us know. I said I was thinking about you by London Bean.

I wish. This song's composition that you're listening to right now was heavily influenced, by the way, by Elton John's Funeral for a Friend. I can hear that. Of course, Axl Rose slash Izzy Stradlin, Duff McKagan, Dizzy Reed, and new drummer Matt Sorum, who took over for my boy Steven Adler.

Right. What a time. What a time for music, that 1991. Beck was absolutely correct. It is the greatest year for album releases. Definitely prolific. Pearl Jam 10, Nevermind, Blood Sugar, Sex Magic. Like all on the same day.

Well, almost. Are you eating like THC gummies? What are you eating, Cam? It's like almonds. Do you want some? Did you, Gilbert Godfrey, these from the Twitter office? Possibly.

You know what? I got an invite to the Twitter office and they have this machine that spits out chocolate-covered almonds. And I swear, I took a bunch. But I was thinking, if I worked at Twitter fucking Canada, I would be 400 pounds.

That was true. That was true. That happened to everybody. Oh, and I was talking to our mutual friend, Ivan, yesterday. Oh, right. He finally called you back. We hooked up yesterday. Oh, I said I got a

t-shirt. Did you book Ivan from Men Without Hats? You can dance. Did I tell you the Humble and Fred story? No. I booked Ivan from Men Without Hats on Humble and Fred after I heard him on my show. I had him on my show and I enjoyed him. And he's fucking, he wrote Safety Dance for fuck's sake. And Pop Goes the World. I had a call afterwards where basically Humble and Fred, but mainly Fred,

said that nobody gives a shit about a one-hit wonder from 40 years ago and he wasn't worth having on Humble and Fred. That's amazing how you just throw those guys under the bus like that. But it's fucking amazing they didn't want to talk to Ivan from Men Without Hats. I mean, I do. Well, he's going to be on the Gibby show soon. Dude, do you think Gibby's ever heard? I've actually hung out with Ivan before.

He had a show, Men Without Hats were playing a show in Los Angeles at the Whiskey Go-Go. Their keyboard player is a friend of mine named Lou Dawson, a lovely lady. So I went to the show to support her, and we ended up hanging out with them. And I was saying to him, hey, safety dance. Nobody sampled that song before. He's like, no, they haven't.

I'm like, well, can I? He's like, go for it. We never did, though. Hey. What a story. That's incredible. He just dropped that. Isn't that crazy?

Fuck. It's true. Quick Quebec Irish boy, quick note. Better than like any story I've ever heard. If you don't give a shit about your guest, it's not going to be a good chat. Like you have to care. You have to have some semblance of caring that you're talking to Ivan. What's with Fred?

Like why would he say that? Because I think first of all, he was in Vancouver. Ivan was in Vancouver. So it was 5.15 in the morning. So you had to kind of like, you know, work it a bit. Okay. Here we go. My heart rate right now

is an unhealthy level. You guys will be shouting out Ridley Funeral Home for me in a minute. If you're on your bike. Oh my god, I would ride through a fucking wall right now. Ladies and gentlemen, we are starting to line up. On the microphone, Toronto Mike!

Get on the piano This might be the best guitar solo ever And we just played Prince Purple Rain You've got the conductor like losing his shit So good I like your axle like this on the piano Like clawing at the piano Stu are you done your fun facts?

Yeah. Okay, so we're going to roll right into Cam. Taylor Swift, by the way, was the song that beat it. Oh. Yeah, I don't even know which one was which. Long Taylor Swift song. Okay, so axle's taking us home, and then we're going right into Cam's jam. Don't you think that you need somebody? Don't you think that you need somebody?

Everybody needs somebody You're not the only one You're not the only one Don't you think that you need somebody? Deuce down for the win Don't you think that you need somebody? November rain on toast Everybody needs somebody

You're not the only one Comfortably numb, by the way Cambrio, he's right Comfortably numb, by the way. Cambrio. He's right. Comfortably numb is a great guitar solo. And new! And new! New! How did you hit it like that?

How did you turn that? Did you get lucky? I haven't heard this song in a hundred years. I've got to download this. FOTM. Yeah. Give it a moment. I fucking love this era of music and this style of music.

Like, so much. You know who would love this jam? Beck would love this fucking jam. This is Canadian music, correct? Yeah. I like 90s Canadian alt-rock that I was listening to on 102.1. And this was not a big hit, but I bet it all comes like washing back the second year. It got much music.

You nailed that so well. Because I can visualize, I can see the waveform. It's a professional. I can see the waveform. I know what I'm doing here. Come on, Stu. It's episode 1038. Yeah, I guess you would have figured out how to hit the post by now. I can see the waveform. It's a professional. Not cheating. I can see the waveform. I know what I'm doing here. Come on, Stu. It's episode 1,000 and fucking 38. Yeah, I guess you would have figured out how to hit the post by now. I can do this in my sleep at this point. Fair.

Soaked. The Killjoys. Love it. This is one of their better songs. So they're a three-piece. Singer Mike Treblecock and FOTM. What's the song called? Soaked.

Soaked. And it's a rain song, huh? Yeah. We'll get to that in a second. Is it a water cannon? Is that what it's called? Now, their bassist Shelly actually did a guest lecture when I was at McMaster

in the popular music course that also had a guest lecture from FOTM. Biz. Where's? Okay. McMaster. Hamilton. Oh, Tom Wilson. Tom Wilson. Very good. You got there. And then also where's where's okay let's think about it mcmaster hamilton oh tom wilson tom wilson very good you got there and then also the drummer the killjoys i don't remember i think he had like really bad covid i do remember this we remember that like uh prayers up for him yeah um do you

remember the video for this is it really small killed no really small killjoys okay so in a radio because that was raven drool you're thinking raven drool was a big driver in their car right really small killjoys in a radio. That was Raven Drool, you're thinking of. Raven Drool was a big driver in their car. Right, that's right. I thought they maybe brought them back like the B-Girl. I actually told Mike Treblecock that the girl in the car was their B-Girl. Like I literally,

if you listen to the Mike Treblecock episode, I said, that's your B-Girl. Anyway, Soaked is a great jam and underappreciated. Well, the video for Soaked, really small killjoys in the radio. There's this girl and she's like, oh, what's that noise in the radio? She takes off tiny little killjoys. Right. I was wondering if it was an homage to Kim Mitchell, Go For Soda.

Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. I see that. He just pops out of the TV or whatever. Okay. And here's a trivia question for either of you. What late 90s Canadian film featured not one but two Killjoy songs on the soundtrack?

End of the World? What's the one with, what's his name? End of the World? Last Day. Last Day. With Sandra Oh? Sandra Oh. Not The Boys Club.

Don McKellar. Yeah, The Boys Club. Really? Yeah, The Boys Club. Are you serious? Yeah. Is that the one with Chris Penn? And like the Doughboys were on?

Yeah. We mentioned Michael Penn earlier. Yeah. And his brother is Chris Penn. I didn't even know that. From the Boys Club. There's two Killjoy songs. Yeah, a song called Money Sucker.

Sorry, Monkey Sucker, which I think was on their first album. And also, I believe earlier, Stu Stowe mentioned the name Dana Levinson. And famously in the FOTM community, Dana had never heard the song... Dana. Dana. Had like no resonance. I remember that verse. What's troubling, Dana?

That last song that we just heard was in the Boys Club? No, not that song. Two other Killjoy songs were on the soundtrack. And of course, Biff Naked was in the Boys Club. Like worked in a liquor store. My brain is exploding. Anyway, this album was... this isn't that interesting. It was recorded in Memphis

at Arden Studio, kind of the home studio for ZZ Top. You're right. ZZ Top. You're right. That wasn't that interesting. And shout out to Dusty Hill,

the late great Dusty Hill. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Thank you. By the way, shout out to Palma Pasta, authentic Italian food. Shout out to everyone. Go to palmapasta.com.

Please do. Honestly, delicious. So delicious. And shout out to Sticker Youasta. Authentic Italian food. Shout out to everyone. Go to palmapasta.com. Please do. Honestly, delicious. So delicious. And shout out to Sticker You. Wilner loves the pasta salad. I have to bring Wilner his vegetarian lasagna when Passover ends. Shout out to Sticker You. Of course.

Go to stickeryou.com. Always. Okay. Why doesn't George still stand up? I'm saving the next shout out. Derek Kristoff, a.k.a. Decisive. He freaked out over that George. He wanted to bring that home.

I got one for him. Really? I have a surplus of George. How many do you have of Georges? You could sell those for big money on eBay. I'd rather give them to gifts to people who I love.

Me and Kristoff. Yeah, well, you specifically. Derek, he's going to... Holy shit, this is a great night. You know, wow. Okay, so I love that choice of the Killjoys. You guys ready for my second jam?

Yes. Hell yeah. Oh choice of the Killjoys. You guys ready for my second jam? Yes. Hell yeah. Oh, shit. That's good. That's a good choice. Underrated band. Agreed. Just like the, again, I was giving Milli Vanilli all this praise,

but this is way edgier as far as the time frame and the electronica, you know what I mean? It's a great duo. Combining real instruments with artificial instruments in a sort of really cool way. I feel like Annie Lennox, her sort of playing around with gender would be very in vogue right now. Do you want to name more?

I'm allergic to almonds. What a great song. And if you were old enough, Mike, to be of the MTV era elk or much music, I guess. I'm Canadian. It's much music here. But Annie Lennox was as big as, well, she's not Michael Jackson, but she's right up there. Annie Lennox was right up there as far as.

Of course. Top ten. Cyndi Lauper and Madonna and Eurythmics and Prince and Wham. Dewey Lewis. Duran Duran. Handsome. She's right there. Handsome.

This is the second biggest hit of Eurythmics' career. Do you want to try a name number one? the biggest hit of the Eurythmics? It's not Sweet Dreams Are Made of This? It is. That's a good guess. Would I lie to you? No, it's a good guess, too. But Sweet Dreams Are Made of This is the number one on the charts, anyways.

The number one Eurythmics song. So, this is from 1983. See, you guys are young. They age very well. I remember when this was like a current song. See, you guys are young. They age very well. I remember when this was like a current song. I remember watching it on MTV. I told you I had a satellite dish. When did MTV debut?

They were 83. Okay. So we were watching this video all the time on a loop. There was only like 20 videos. So you saw the same 20 songs over and over again. Right. Godly and Cream, Cry, I think was one of the videos, as I recall. Okay, so this is the third studio album by The Eurythmics.

Touch. And Annie Lennox and David Stewart, the two members of The Eurythmics, wrote this song together. Production is incredible. Yeah. This song actually was on the album from 83, but it was released as a single in January 1984. Here's a fun fact for you.

Dave Stewart says he and Annie Lennox wrote the song while staying at the Mayflower Hotel in New York City. It was an overcast day and Stewart was playing melancholy A minor-ish chords with the B note in it on his casino keyboard. Lennox came over, looked out the window. Casio. What did I say? Oh, fuck me. Okay. Sports betting. It's looked out the window. Casio? Casio. What did I say? Oh, fuck me. Sports betting. It's legal. Fuck me. Okay. Lennox came over,

looked out the window at the gray skies. I think you owned something. In the New York skyline. Wait a second, Dave. Play that again. And spontaneously sang, Here comes the rain again. Here comes the rain again. The duo worked out the rest of it in that mood. So this is a true rain jam. And of course, Dave Stewart helped the Blue Jays to win a World Series.

I had to steer. 93. By the way, did you see he was in the news leading up a leader or a ownership consortium to bring a team to what, Nashville or Memphis? I saw like a photo. Oh, I didn't see that. Consortium. Consortium.

Consortium? This is Canada. It's a casino. Get out of the casino. Cas it? Consortium. Consortium. Consortium? This is Canada. Oh, I like it. It's a casino. Get out of the casino. Casio. Casio. Shout out to Rob Pruce, who would never fucking mistake how to pronounce Casio. Whatever.

Whatever. We're amongst friends here. So this was a top 10 jam, right? A second top 10 of their career. Here's a fun fact. The string instruments are by Michael Kamen and was performed by members of the British Philharmonic Orchestra. Wow. It's actually a long song,

so this is about five and a half minutes. As songs were back then. Yeah. But they didn't put the five minutes, like they made a radio edit, but they thought five minutes was too long. I feel like you still hear this all the time on CHFI and like Boom 97.3.

So what's better, this or Sweet Dreams? With Jeff Spindell. Right, okay. I think this is way this or Sweet Dreams? With Jeff Spindell. Right, okay. I think this is way better than Sweet Dreams. It's different. That's the... Different. Sweet Dreams is a very, is a much catchier pop anthem,

but this is probably a, maybe it's a more complete song. I don't know. They're both very good. It sort of sounds like the Pet Shop Boys. Sweet Dreams is a better song overall if you had to go. No, no. Because it's so iconic. It's so iconic.

It is. Now it is. I do love this song, but Sweet Dreams is like the consequent... That's what put him on the map. Also, it's hard to erase the Marilyn Manson cover. This might be the better song of the two, but

it's hard to ignore. And a true bonafide rain jam, say you, Stu Stone. Hey, Mike. Yeah. You talk to me like lovers do. Every night, big guy. You know that. What are orgies?

Stu, what are orgies? When a man and woman make love. Remember when I told you about a man and woman. It's Huck Finn. Wait, no, this was the line she remembers it she goes she goes

remember what I told you about a man and woman being in love and making babies yes well an orgy's like that but without the love that makes it so nice

well how come Tom Sawyer is going to have an orgy I think he's talking about something the pirates are going to do do you have an orgy's mom well in fact your mom hasn't had a lot of anything lately seen I think he's talking about something the pirates are going to do. Do you have an orgy, mom? Well, in fact, your mom hasn't had a lot of anything lately.

Scene. Nailed it. Nailed it. Is this my song? It's a good song. Is this Jeffrey Osborne? I wish He knows all the fucking lines still Do you realize that?

That was 40 years ago There's a reason he's been working in showbiz Shout out to Kraft Dinner Do you know the voice you're hearing right now? It's a little Jeffrey Osborne-ish, I guess. Is that Luther or Brandt Ross? I wish. Is that Johnny Gill?

That's Johnny Gill. Oh, shit. Okay. Freak me. No, that's Silk. Silk. And who's that singing? It's Patti LaBelle.

It's Belle, Biv, or Devoe. No, none. It's Biv. Bobby Brown. Close. There's only one member left. Who am I missing? Oh, wow.

Not Kenny Rogers' New Edition. Shanice. Can You Stand the Rain? That's Ralph Tresvant. Right, right, right. Oh, God. Who could have been like a Michael Jackson? I just want to say Andy knew it on the live.torontomic.com stream.

This is Can You Stand the Rain, the signature song for the group new edition which ironically and i know we're gonna have uh this is a song i can i give a spoiler about a future episode yes and and when you're done your i want to share my perspective as a 40 something year old in toronto regarding this song sure future episode topic we're going to be doing songs where bands have a different singer and you like the song. To be clear, a song you love from a band that became famous with a different lead singer. Sorry, became famous?

The band became famous. A good example, I'll just throw one out there. Back in Black, okay? Back in Black is a great song you might love from ACDC, but ACDC became famous with a different lead singer. Well, that's a very... I think you should... The parameters are no good.

It should just be a famous band that has a different... Or any band that has a different singer where you like the song. You're picking a song you love from a band that became famous with a different lead singer. But what's famous? Yeah. Popular. Because like New Edition, this could qualify because Bobby Brown left the group, and then they come out with this. famous with a different lead singer. But what's famous? Popular.

This could qualify because Bobby Brown left the group and then they come out with this. This would qualify. Yeah, but they were already famous before this. Who was the lead singer when they became famous? They were already famous with Bobby Brown. So Bobby Brown was the lead singer. Then he left and they had another run without him. With Johnny Gilday brought in.

So this song would qualify. Back in Black would qualify. I think you're going to take it back to the garage. Who's the guy who died from ACC? Brian Johnson? Yeah, they were famous. Let's just talk. Can we talk about this song for a second?

Not as famous. No, but they still, they became famous. What is famous? Stop the music. Quantify it. Stop the rock and roll. Hold on. Motherfuck.

Real quick. Black Sabbath with Dio is a great example on the line. Can You Stand the Rain? One second, guys, because 1236 loves this song. Can You Stand the Rain, new edition from 1988, third single, fifth album. These guys were kids. This was their fifth album. How many albums?

I mean, prolific. Prolific careers. Of course, we know Ricky Bell, Michael Bivens, and Ronnie DeVoe went on to become Bell Biv DeVoe. We know Bobby Brown left the group to have a solo career, and then Bobby Brown ends up being the opening act for New Edition when they toured with this song, which is ironic. Humiliating. Johnny Gill, who went on to become Johnny Gill, Rub You the Right Way. Canada Kev hates this song, which is ironic. Humiliating. Johnny Gill, who went on to become Johnny Gill,

Rub You the Right Way. Canada Kev hates this song, by the way. That's fine. Ralph Tresvant had that song Sensitivity on the Much Music. That's a big one. Which is a great song. Good jam. And this song is written by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis,

who have ties to the song Purple Rain, which we heard earlier when they were playing as part of Prince's crew. Of course, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, along with... 200 bucks down at Canadian Time. Morris Day. Morris Day and The Time.

The Time. And they missed a flight or some shit happened and they didn't show up for a gig or couldn't make it to a gig. Prince famously fired them. Yeah. They went out... Well, I thought it's because they were, like,

moonlighting and stealing his sound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they went on to become their own songwriting duo. The Force MDs was their first big hit. Tender love you're giving to me. Tender love. Great song. Then they have Janet Jackson.

I'm going to rattle off some songs real quick. Janet Jackson, When I Think of You, Miss You Much, Escapade, Love Will Never Do Without You, That's the Way Love Goes, Again, Doesn't Really Matter, All for You. Those are all Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Human League. I'm only human. Born to make mistakes.

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. That's a fucking jam. That's a mind blow. That's a mind blow. George Michael, Get That Monkey Off Your Back from the Faith album. Don't look down, there's a monkey on your back. That's a fucking jam. That's a mind blow. That's a mind blow. George Michael, Get That Monkey Off Your Back from the Faith album. Don't look down, there's a monkey on your back.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why can't you do it? Why can't you set the monkey free? Boys to Men, Down on Bended Knee. Oh my God. Four Seasons of Loneliness. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I can't take anymore. I'm sure you remind me. Mercy. I mean, there are so many songs, but I will say White Flag. Stop it. That one fun fact about Can You Stand the Rain,

which is the name of the new edition. If you ever watch those Lifetime movies, there was a new edition movie, and it's called Can You Stand the Rain. But real quick, Boyz II Men did a cover of Can You Stand the Rain, which is like an acapella version, which is incredible. So if you don't like Can You Stand the Rain, which is like an acapella version, which is incredible. So if you don't like Can You Stand the Rain, that's fine.

But I would say that you guys should definitely check out Can You Stand the Rain by Boyz II Men. There's a beautiful version of it. Yes. Did I hit that note? Okay. And we started a group and here we are.

By the way. Kicking it just for you. Great live act, boys to men. If you have a chance to see them now. I've never seen them. They're incredible. They're not bloated? No, who cares?

The songs are great. The songs are still good. Yeah. They play all the fucking songs. I feel like they almost are underappreciated now given how big they were shout out to Johnny O who says can I stand this song he's doing like a little parody

Mike chose a topic, rain jams I suppose there's so many other songs there's no shame in this game I'm just thinking about dance parties that song would play, you'd slow dance you'd put your head on it I have a confession to make about that jam you lost your V card to that song That song would play. You'd slow dance. You'd put your head on the ground. I have a confession to make about that jam. And firstly, I'm just going to tell you, Andy.

You lost your V-card to that song? God damn right. It's Spider Jones. Tell me about your first boner. Oh, rude. How dare you. Okay, firstly, Andy was just pointing out there is no New Kids on the Block without New Edition. Well, same.

Morrie Starr. Same guy that put New Kids on the Block together. Same guy. Put together New Edition. And of course, Jackson 5. There'd same Morrie Starr. Same guy that put New Kids on the Block together. Same guy. Put together New Edition and, of course, Jackson 5. There'd be no nothing without them. The end.

Have you ever seen the rain? I can't wait to hear some CCR later in this fucking thing. I'm just going to tell you again. Oh, how I wish you would rain down. Down on me.

Down on me. Eddie Vedder. How I wish you would rain down on me now. Okay.. I wish it would rain down on me now. I touch the rays down in Africa. Stop, stop, stop. Chilliwack had a fucking great song called Rain.

Okay, okay, okay. There's lots coming up still. We don't want to spoil it. I'm here to tell you I was listening to CFTR. CFTR. Here's what I've learned as an adult. You know what I learned as an adult? I'm going to say it right now. The Thunder Rolls. No, it's before that.

CFTR was racist as fuck. Whoa. I think so. I'm telling you. Two hours into the episode. Here we go. Larry Fedorick acclaimed? I was pre-drinking at the patio of Great Lakes Beer. I see that. Actually inside because it was raining. Rain. Dick Smythe. That's Beer. I see that. Actually inside. Okay, because it was raining. Okay. Rain.

Dick Smythe. Dick Smythe. That's the way I see it. I'm Dick Smythe. Racist as fuck. Whoa. CFTR played the fuck out of New Kids on the Block. I heard Hangin' Tough every half an hour.

Sure. I never heard any of this new edition stuff. Yeah. I was older when I discovered new edition. They weren't playing it on much music. Yeah. They weren't playing it on cftr i think it's racially motivated it could be it could be i mean you don't know mtv famously wouldn't play any black artists at the beginning of mtv until they had to play michael jackson with beat with uh billy jean i will say like we've seen this whenever we do our like rundowns, especially in the 80s,

like black artists. Oh, in the US, the number one hit in Canada went to 28. Routinely. By the way, it's probably true. Okay, explain to me, Andrew, why it was a different format. Because what I heard there, this is what Andrew Ward just said on the live stream, but when I listen to the headphones to that Rain song, which I only discovered recently,

I will tell you, because I never was exposed to it. Sorry, that song? Yeah, that song yeah that that song we've never heard that i've heard it but i only heard it like in the last 10 years right okay that's no true i never heard it since 2012 yeah i discovered that song since 2000 because it wasn't played anywhere i'm telling you it wasn't in toronto ontario canada when i'm exposed to top 40 on cftr and watching much music that song was invisible i'm telling you right now. Meanwhile, Hangin' Tough was everywhere. I've only heard it in the last 10 years.

I've never seen a fucking episode of Saturday Night Live. Fuck you. That's personal. These are mind blows. It's the same difference. How was that song I just heard in my headphones right now not a Top 40 jam from 1988? That's Top 40 jam. I wonder how I knew it. I was exposed to it somehow.

How were you exposed to it? Did a friend say, here's a new edition? Or did you think it was Kenny Rogers? Maybe I saw it on MTV. But I feel like at a dance party, they would have played that song. They had another song from that same album. If this is enough, why does it feel...

Andrew, that's not true. Top 40 was not based on sales. I would say that was a minor hit in Canada. At best. This rain song by New Edition? I'm going to say that was like a minor hit in Canada at best. This rain song by New Edition. I'm going to say it was a non-hit in Canada. Can You Stay in the Rain. Yeah, that one. If you talk to anybody who is an R&B anybody,

that's probably one of the most influential hit songs for a whole generation. Ask that. We'll do a PPM about this. And it's true. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying in this market, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, it was invisible. this. And it's true. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying in this market, Toronto, Ontario, Canada,

it was invisible. And I think that's terrible. I'm saying that if you were to interview like Usher or somebody or whoever, all of them would put that in their top, most influential songs. That's the establishment, like those songs.

Guys, we have one jam left each, okay? But I'm going to do a quick sidebar here because I go, you know, we're only doing this every third Thursday of the month, which means there's a lot of time between recordings. So I go on these bike rides and I think about shit. And I was on a bike ride a few weeks ago. Okay, where is this going?

And I'm thinking about the songs. Kissing songs. Okay. Okay. Not a rain song, right? No. Unless it's a wet kiss. Hey. You think maybe I need help No, I know I'm right Hey I'm catching up on the comments over here

I'm listening to friends and fives I'm feeling bliss Blowing my bliss I tell them this When they wanna know What the real thing is Shannon, who? From the back of the phone.

Here it comes, here it comes. I don't wanna lie Then I tell them why Because your kiss Your kiss Is on my list Bringing it right down. Cam Gordon, what's the name of the song?

Kiss on list. Okay, Stu, what's the name of the song? It's a trick question. Your kiss is on my list of the best things in life? The kiss is on my list. Here's what, what's the name of the song? It's a trick question. Your Kiss is on my list of the best things in life? The Kiss is on my list. Here's what I thought it was called forever. I thought it was called Kiss on my Lips.

I thought it was Kiss on my Lips. No, I know. You're right. It is L-I-S-T. But forever I thought it was Kiss on my Lips. Your Kiss is on my Lips. Yeah. Does that make more sense? Now it is list, so you guys are right. was Kiss On My Lips. Your Kiss Is On My Lips. Yeah. Doesn't that make more sense? Now, it is list,

so you guys are right. No, your kiss is on my list of the best things in life. That's the lyrics. Well, kiss could be on my lips. But it wouldn't be your kiss is on my lips of the best things in life? No, but your kiss is on my lips

would be like the right place for a kiss. Or a kiss on the cheek, kiss on the genitals. Where's the best place to get a kiss from your lover? From me. Don't answer that.

What are orgies? Family programs. What are orgies, Steve? Orgies are things that Mike and Monica do on Saturdays. Can you have a one-on-one orgy? I think that this song is great

and I love Hall & Oates. Okay, I'm here to just tell you that I... And I also love Hall & Oates. Yeah, Red Hole and... There you go. Atomotes. Atomotes, absolutely. Big time. So I'm just here to tell you. And I also love Hall and Oates. Yeah, Red Hall and Adam Oates. Adam Oates, absolutely. Big time. So I'm just here to tell you, I thought it was kiss on my lips.

Well, thanks for sharing. Kiss on my lips. It's like a sidebar. Songs about rain. And we're going back to our final jams here, but I want to thank Yesterday was 420. What was your point? No, just a sidebar.

I didn't know that was kiss on my list. Any excuse to play good music is fine with me. There you go. It's a great chance. It's a little like over there.

I'm the ex-mite. There's a Torontonian on Jeopardy who's kicking ass, Matea, and she does this thing of her hand. I watch it

and she does this thing I'm doing right now and I know no one can see the video unless you're watching live. But it's really kind of cute. Like she'll kind of talk. Kind of flailing.

Yeah, like this. As she talks about her answers. And she's very good. She's kicking ass taking names. Okay. Did anyone here celebrate 420 yesterday? No. I got to stop.

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Are you ready for your final jam, Cam? I wish we were going to watch longer. Yeah. Does that mean I have to wait another month before we do this? All right. Oh, yeah. I don't think we've ever heard this artist on Pandemic Fridays or Toast. That's amazing.

We will hear him next month when we do... No, because, yeah, he was replaced. Oh, right, right, right. You're supposed to play a clip of the other... We'll hear this fucker next week. That would be fun. But he was never the lead singer. Was he?

Yeah, he was 100% the lead singer. It was like the first three or four albums. Big time. And then he left to go solo. I forgot about this song. And then we placed him with Phil Collins. There's no way we haven't played this artist before. In your eyes, it's for sure on this.

Is BP of Sales on the line? Yeah, BP of Sales. Can you confirm? I feel like we've never heard Peter Gabriel. We have. Not even Sledgehammer? No, we have. I'm willing to bet on Bodog.

Okay, I'll look it up while we listen for this. I will say, just as Red Rain, Peter Gabriel. It's one of those songs, the first minute is the best part of this song. I always thought it was like an awesome opening, and the rest of the song is kind of like... That's it for me! It's kind of, eh, you can take it or leave it. That's funny. This song is both about AIDS and nuclear war.

So that's kind of fun. Pete always had these, you know, there's that song, Don't give up. Yeah, with Kate Bush. About suicide. That was also the outro song for Mush Music with FOTM Ziggy Lawrence. Yeah, I played it for her, absolutely. Good beat on this song, right?

Would you say so? Good percussion. I like this song. Do you know who's playing drums on this? Billy? No, Stuart Copeland. Oh, wow. Wow, from the police.

That's right. What's that jam you kicked out? I think that's the most egregious. Is that the word, egregious? Songs with other artists' names in the title. That's the most offensive moment in Pandemic Friday. Sorry, what is this again? KRS-One, That's the sound of the police.

Okay, so Peter Gabriel's regular drummer was a guy named Jerry Marotta. Guess what, guys? Just sorry to interrupt you, Kim. Yeah, confirm. In your eyes, on-screen Discover Jams played by Stu, the champ. Okay, I take it back. Yeah, he beat me to it, so BP of Sales

has come up with the answer. And also, am I right? Oh, yeah. So there's been two Peter Gabriel jams kicked out. What was the other one? This one. Oh, this one. Okay.

Well, no, no. So, okay. Okay. So, yes, Don't Give Up was kicked out during Guys and Dolls duet jams. I kicked it out. Boy, Cam, you are just a mess. Don't give up. Okay.

Well, what the fuck do I know? Then, In Your Eyes was kicked out by Stu. Way to go, Cam. Way to hype up. From Screen Enhanced Jams. Ask Anything. Yeah, Say Anything. Say Anything.

And that's the infamous episode where- Cam has not watched Saturday Night Live, but he's seen Say Anything twice. Ask Anything. Who's playing guitar in this, Mike? Let me hear. Daniel Lanois. From Hamilton me hear. Daniel Lanois. From Hamilton. Yeah.

Okay. Wow. Now, let's get back to Peter Gabriel's regular drummer, Jerry Marotta. He's played drums for these other artists. Iggy Pop, whose birthday is today, 75 years old. Iggy Pop. He's played drums for a guy named Paul McCartney. Wow.

He was in the Beatles. And Wings. Don't bury the lead. Iggy Pop. He's played drums for a guy named Paul McCartney. Wow. He was in the Beatles. And Wings. Don't bury the lead. Well, more importantly, Wings. Played drums for Sarah McLachlan. Oh, my God. Played drums for Gowan.

Wow, Larry. From Styx? From CFNY. That's right. And played drums for an FOTM. Okay. Who is it, Mike? Who did Peter Gabriel's drummer play drums for? Give me a second. Give meOTM. Okay. Who is it, Mike? Who did Peter Gabriel's drummer play drums for?

Give me a second. Give me a second. Okay. Meru McLaughlin. Holy fuck. Peter Sherman. No. Think about it.

Miles Goodwin. No. I should think. Who's in the category with like Jeno Vanelli. Jeno Vanelli. Okay. Here's a clue. Paulccartney has gone on record saying he's a big fan of this person tyler stewart so bare naked lady you're getting close you're

getting close steven page no ron sexsmith okay wow ron sexsmith well there's a lot of fotm so pardon me yeah but not not that peter gabriel's drummer played with. Amazing. Anyway, Red Rain. Bad AIDS, bad nuclear war. Wow. Second Peter Gabriel jam. Third. You're not listening to me. In Your Eyes was kicked out by Stu for screen enhanced jams.

Don't Give Up. And Don't Give Up was kicked out by yours truly for the Guys and Dolls duet jam. And in case you missed it, CFTR was incredibly racist. I said racist as fuck. Oh, sorry. My it, CFTR was incredibly racist. I said racist as fuck. Oh, sorry. My bad. Similar but different. Yeah. Which might be true. I think it's true. Okay. If I get, you know, I got Lauren Honigman on line two. If I get like a... Were they racist or prejudiced?

Both. They were not playing black artists as much as they should have been. Well, I would say like... They were hesitant to play black artists. Like a second chance by 38 Special would be all over that station Right How does that go again?

Sing it for me Give me a dance Heart needs a second chance Oh yeah This heart needs a second chance He's not funny but the man can sing When it's over Just don't I always thought that was Don Henley Yeah same production He's not funny, but the man can sing.

I always thought that was Don Henley. Yeah, same production. Over me? Is that what he's saying? Over me? Is that what he says? It sounds like Beavis and Butters. Drunk Mike.

Does he say over me? Yeah, this is Drunk Mike. Do you guys like Peter Gabriel, by the way? Sure. I could take him or leave him. I like him. Damn, without any fanfare. I like the rain songs. Well, there's rain in this one.

I hear it. I hear it. I wonder what YouTube video he got. It's like Saw Solitudes. Sorry, is this still Peter Gabriel? No, this is my jam. We moved on, Cam, okay? he got. Saw Solitudes. Sorry, is this still Peter Gabriel? No, this is my jam. Oh. We moved on, Cam, okay?

Red Rain. And you got the headphones on? This is fucking amazing in the headphones. Just soak it in. Speaking of killjoy. This is pretentious.

What is this? Hold your fire. What is this? Hold your fire. Hold your fire. Only love can make it rain Like the sweat of lovers laying in the fields Love, rain on me Love Rain on me Rain on me

Rain on me Only love can bring the rain. Let's get not too crazy in the chat room, guys. Calm the fuck down, everybody. Did you see that one from Brian? This is not at all redeeming. I can't believe I'm typing this. Everybody, calm the fuck down. With this pick, Mike has redeemed hero of the day.

Yeah, that's bullshit. All is forgiven. Calm down. Everybody calm down. It's Brian Shelley, everybody. This is a great fucking jam, but let's calm down. It's a great song, not a rant. Oh my God, Canada Kev says, I'm impressed with this pick.

Definitely in the lead. Mike, definitely in the lead by a lot. It's a great song. It is. We fucking heard YYZ Gord's Is It Even A Rain song. Let me take over. It's like Rain of Terror. I agree, by the way.

Let's get this disqualified right now. Let's get this fucking disqualified. I'll mute you. Listen closely to me right now. You scumbag Calm down everybody Everyone take a fucking chill pill Go back to GLB

This is the who This song is called Love Rain Or Me And rain is spelled R-E-I-G-N I'm not finished You didn't hear the fucking rain In the beginning of the fucking song? Let me finish.

This is from Quadrophenia. Yeah, this is not a rain song. It's definitely a rain song, let me tell you. Let's have a vote. Let's have a fucking vote. Not a rain song. You know Quadrophenia, right? One of your songs was called No Rain. The main character, Jimmy, is having a personal crisis.

Roman Reigns' theme song could have been a Reigns song. With nothing left to live for, he finds a spiritual redemption in pouring rain. Tim Reigns. R-A-I-N. R-A-I-N.

I could add a Tim Reigns song. Let me quote Pete Townshend as he describes the song. You ready? Townshend. Pete Townshend. It describes the song. You ready? Townshend. Pete Townshend. It's not happening. Ready? Fucking amateur hour. It refers to... Check his hard drive.

Mihar Baba's one-time comment that rain was a blessing from God, that thunder was God's voice, is another plea to drown, only this time in the rain. What the fuck are you talking about? That's bullshit. He surrenders in the rain. What the fuck are you talking about? He goes through a suicide crisis.

He surrenders to the inevitable. And you know when it's over and he goes back to town, he'll be going through the same shit. Great song, but pass, man. Being in the same terrible situation with the family and so on. How quickly things turn. This went from being redemption for Hero of the Day

to being a real pile of shit. Pete, who wrote this song, by the way, is Pete Townsend's telling you. Don't care. It's a Rain song. R-A-I-N. Yeah, but it's not spelled that way. Tim Rain's last name is spelled R-A-I-N. It's called Clever.

You wouldn't know about it, Steve. Oh, really? Wow. Is that you, Mike? Jesus. Angry, drunk Mike. Rude. Stingers! Thank you. There's no disputing that that's a good song.

Big outro. Did they play that at Woodstock? I feel like they did. They did like a little like quadrophenia section. It's definitely a great song, but that's not what we're judging this on. The song is R-E-I-N. This is a mind blow for you, Stu.

Ha. We are voting right now. Please vote right now. Press one if you think it is a rain song and press two if you think it should be disqualified. One is a yes. Two is a disgrace. We've got one vote for yes. Okay, Quebec Irish boy, that's our boy.

All right. Oh, Greg. Greg, taking our side here. Wow. All right, seems like the people have spoken, Mike, and they're voting for you. It's such a lame song. Wait a minute.

Mr. Trump, the election's not over yet. There are a lot of twos coming in here in the recount. Now, what's the popular vote on this? It's closer than you think. That's all. Name the band. That sounds like Pearl Jam again. Oh, Pearl Jam.

Yeah. Okay, for the second time tonight, my bonus fun fact mind blow jam is Pearl Jam. This is Love, Rain, or Me by Pearl Jam. Do you guys remember, and I saw it, I remember it well, but do you guys remember a Adam Sandler movie called Rain Over Me? No. Does this ring a bell

at all to you? Pearl Jam released this cover of that Who song which by the way, that Who song, that's the classic fucking lineup that's Roger Daltrey, Pete Townsend John Entwistle and Keith Moon Big drums. This is the Pearl Jam version

that plays over the film's credit rain over me when did this movie come out 2007 rain over me it's yeah rain over adam sandler adam sandler so adam sandler approached eddie vetter and asked eddie if he would record love rain over me for the film and eddie wasn't sure he wanted to do it. He loves The Who, but he wasn't sure. But then he talked to Roger Daltrey, who called Vedder and gave his approval. Mike McCready says that he knew Eddie Vedder would put everything into

it because he knew that Pete was going to someday listen to it. So this is Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam covering The Who. The Who? Who's on first? Pretty similar to the original.

Yes. Also, the cover, also not about rain. Yeah, neither. So 0 for 2 there. Yeah. I will say this. Salt in the wound. I would like to call for a re-vote just real quickly.

There's nothing to vote on. This time when you're voting, one, to support Mike in his claim that a song called R-E-I-N is a rain song. Yes, that's a clever wordplay. And two, if you are entertained by Cam and Stu and you want us to return

to Toast next month. So one or two. It's like I'm playing chess and you're playing checkers. That's what's happening here. No, that's the opposite. Shout out. I'm playing chess

and you're claiming One Night in Bangkok is a sports song. I was about to say, shout out to One Night in Bangkok and you're claiming One Night in Bangkok. I was about to say shout out to One Night in Bangkok and Murray Head for the great sports anthem. Can't skew.

King Troll over here. Tim. Shout out to Tim. We don't shout out Ian Service enough. You're doing a great job, Ian. Listen, I want to just

say before we play my final jam. What a rotten, rotten idea. I would have played I would have played Toto's Africa. Perhaps I should have.

So I think that November Rain was my strongest entry and I came out swinging with November Rain. This might be my least favorite of my songs but I do like it because of the mind blow factor of it and I like to save my mind blow kind of songs for the end. So maybe I'm not ranking

my songs and maybe this is... When this song came out, it wasn't... Breaking news. You know? Y-Y-Z Gord? Zed. Y-Y-Z Gord. Okay, I've read the whole lyrics and I will actually admit there is more rain in there than I thought.

R-A-I-N. Sure, but there's also rains. Yes, because it's clever songwriting for fuck's sake. It's not that clever. Are you ready for your final jam? Well, I mean, my jam is a terrible jam to go into off of such an epic Who song, but at least mine's about the rain.

Cambrio will vote for you, Gareth. Oh, wow. Of course this song is spelled R-A-I-N Properly I knew it was too smart for you I knew it I'm a gifted student, Stu Are you a gifted student? I am

Where do you think I met him in fucking gifted class? Yeah, for real You weren't there, bro That's called special ed Oh You were in gifted science and math. That's called special ed. Oh. You went gifted science and math? That's where I met you?

Miss Gardner? Wow. Mr. Bannon here? That's incredible. Back in the day? I shouldn't have even been in post-class. They lowered those standards, I guess. What the? Trunk fight.

Just fucking rush limbo over here. Rude. Trunk Mike. That's fucking Russian. That limbo over here, rude. All right, so we're listening to Missy Misdemeanor Elliott. Can someone take a screen cut? Which could have been a parentheses jam, by the way. I don't like drunk, Mike.

He's belligerent. It's called The Rain. I'm going to be drinking all afternoon. The Rain. I'm not drunk. Bracket Supa Dupa Fly. The debut single from Missy Misdemeanor Elliott. Did you know that she had her own little Diane Warren career going before she was rapping?

No. Tell me about that. She was a songwriter of her own. And she wrote songs. She wrote Don't Want to Miss a Thing? She did not write that. But she definitely wrote for Aaliyah, 702, SWV, Genuine. She was in a group with Timbaland.

Timbaland ended up becoming a huge producer, and Missy came along, and she got a shot at doing her own album, and this is called The Rain. Do you remember when Weezer shouted out Timbaland? The video for this song was probably, you know, you talk about that Blind Melon video being iconic. For Missy, I would say this was a hype Williams directed video where she was in that garbage bag looking blown up suit and kind of being all different than what was going on. Pretty cool. Provocative.

Funny Billboard magazine. Who's that? Rainn Wilson. Billboard magazine. Shout out to Rainn Wilson from Six Feet Under. Can I read you the review of this song from Billboard? Yes, please. Yes, please. Elliot commits more than a misdemeanor with her first solo single, The Rain.

Having scored a handful of writing and producing hits for such acts as Aaliyah 702, SWV, and Genuine, Elliot attempts to hide the fact that she was lazy with her own lyrics and dependent on a Timberland beat to save her. The result is a little of her infamous wordplay atop an intellectual bass, snare, and drum beat. One can only hope that she puts more time and effort into her upcoming album as we don't want to see

a rising star burn out so fast. She ends up going on to sell 30 million records. She had the last laugh there. She did a Super Bowl halftime show too. Can they debate whether I'm drunk? I love this.

For the record, if anyone cares, I am not drunk. He is. How many beers did you have at GLP? I had a couple of beers. I'm actually not drunk though. You're forgetting. Maybe three or four. I'm not drunk.

Trust me, I'm not drunk. I promise you. I would own it. If Mike wasn't vasectomied right now, I'd say there was a good chance he would have another kid tonight. Red ring. So here's some mind blows for you.

So I heard this song in 1997 when it came out, and my memory was like, oh, cool. Someone sampled this song. Let's just skip the Missy song now. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was like, somebody sampled this song? What are you getting song now Whoa I was like somebody sampled this song? What are you getting at? And I was like

Oh there you go Not just somebody I was like oh yeah Because this was a tape that I had And I loved this album And I got to this I would listen to this song. Is this Tina Turner? It is.

Wow. I had no idea. All her hits are covers. Right. So this is Tina Turner, I Can't Stand the Rain Fifth solo album, Private Dancer I find it hard to believe that she had four previous solo albums before Private Dancer Because I always thought when you watch the movie and you see the story

Private Dancer is her first solo kind of effort But it wasn't I saw the documentary a couple years back I think it was maybe two years ago. They had the Tina Turner doc. And yeah, there's that period before she kind of gets... She tried other stuff. Yeah, she tried other stuff.

It wasn't really working. Actually, Mike sort of took a line from that song, Private Dancer, for this episode. Any old music will do. Not actually songs about rain. Correct. Any old music will do. Don't actually need...

I expect this from Stu, but not from you. It was a bit clunky, but we got there. No rain is a rain jam. All right, so here's the mind blow for me. Yeah. Right? Not for any of you, but I heard the Missy Elliott song, and I was like, oh, did she sample that Tina Turner song?

And then I realized as I got older that Tina Turner actually didn't. Hers was a cover. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So let's mind blow number two for those that aren't in the know. It's the Killtoys. But Tina Turner. Oh, stop. Tina didn't write her own music?

Shocker. Shocker. And this is actually the actual one that he sampled. If you rewind it and start from the beginning, that's actually. Well, I can do that. Here, let's do this. What a dope jam this is. This is the best version of all of them. Okay start from the beginning, that's actually... Well, I can do that. Here, let's do this. What a dope jam this is. This is the best version of all of them.

Okay, from the top. Pumpkin shit. From the top. Here it is. This is in the Missy song. Here you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Not all of that is in the beat. And that's the vocal they used. Right. And there it is. And what artist is this? This is, you don't know? Bringing back

sweet memories. Ann Peebles. 1973. Here you wonder things. And it's dope, man. Johnny O nailed that. He knew it was Ann Peebles.

It's really good. Ann Peebles. Moose Grumpy says that I'm not drunk, I'm just ADHD enhanced. But it's got a good swing to it, this song. Oh yeah, let's hear it.

When we was together. Let's hear it. It's Chris Brown on organs. Right. This is funky shit. It's really good. Are we going to Wolf Island? I totally want to go there. Let's do it.

Let's rent a van like the Mystery Machine. Well, go to Retro Ontario's compound first. Kind of sounds like Tina Turner. Is she related to Mario Van Peebles? Could be. Or Pebbles. Pebbles. Pebbles, yeah. Another CFTR racist omission from early 90s playlists.

Wasn't Pebbles white? Could be. Careful. Pebbles is white. Pebbles Flintstone I'm talking about. Oh. What are you talking about? There's a... Let the sun shine in. In the mid-80s, there's a Pebbles singer.

I'm going to Google it. I'm serious. Can't take this guy anywhere. Where's that lasagna from? No, I think this is probably the best version of all the three Can You Stand the Rains? Or I Can't Stand the Rains. The vocal's good. The vocals good. The music is sort of like

this Otis Redding kind of vibe. Yes. A shitload of attitudes. This is Pebbles? Do you remember this? Yeah, this was his jam. Yeah. Hey, I feel like she wrote some songs for TLC or something.

Yeah. Or she's involved with TLC in some way. That's Pebbles? That's Pebbles, yeah. White Woman. Sounds like Paula Abdul, Cold Hearted Snake. She's a cold hearted snake. I wonder if she wrote Cold Hearted Snake.

Should we look that up? I bet you she wrote Paul Abdul songs. Same producer. Like halting like violin thing. Songwriter Elliot Wolfe wrote cold Hearted Snake. Elliot Wolfe. Oh, here's the jam I remember. Bear with me here.

This is what I remember as the hit. She's a cold hearted snake. Ooh. Don't want to fall in love? Is that what this is? No. What is this?

What song am I thinking of? Like, don't want to fall in love. A child. James Child. That's a Toronto game. It's got like that Howard Jones like drum pad. Don't wanna fall in love.

Yeah, yeah. It's a nice day. This video like screams like 1989. I've been watching you. What decade is this from? It's a great hat. Oh, yeah.

Hold on. The refrain is going to hook you. Yeah. Oh, is this Catch Me Now I'm Falling? No. Falling in love. Think about automobiles. When we kick out automobile jams.

Here it comes. Here it comes, here it comes Cadillac bills Oh yeah, okay You know who we Mercedes boy giving you the benefit of the doubt That was a big song for her A lot of big jams, mid 80s Giving you the benefit Yeah, doubt. That was a big song for her. A lot of big jams in the mid-80s. Giving you the benefit. Yeah.

No doubt. Right, right. Remember Jodie Watley? Yes. Yes, of course. Wow, she's a fun fact to blow everybody's minds. Yeah, let's go. Oh, come on.

Pebbles is now a minister. Wow. Known as Sister Perry. Sister Perry. Sister Perry. Sister of Adam. This is not Africa, but this is Toto. What does this have to do with rain? No, no, no. This is just, I thought we

should have a little, like, music here. Mike was on a bike ride today and wanted... Actually, could we hear one more rain jam? Okay, but then, uh, only if I can kick out one more rain jam. Do I get to kick out another one, too? Okay, I'm gonna get, I wanna kick a kick out one more rain jam. Do I get to kick out another one too? Okay, I want to kick a bonus one too then. I don't have to be home until 10 anyway.

Shit. Bonus time. Every song that's a rain jam. I want to pick something too, okay? I'm going to pick something too. Hold the line. Hey. Hold the rain.

Oh, kiss the rain. Remember that, Billy Myers? Here we go. Is this Kim's voice? Red rain. Is this Madonna? Yeah. And I get a bonus jam too.

Literally just called rain. Rain. Feel it in my fingertips. Oh yeah, remember Tay Zonday, Chocolate Rain? Oh right, Chocolate Rain. Early viral hit. Okay, I don't know DR anymore. I just found you at the opening. It's fine, and I'm going to abruptly go to mine, okay?

Who's the lead singer of Our Lady Peace? Rain. Singing in the rain? This is my favorite. This is a great listen. Mandolin Rain by Bruce Hornsby. That's a good show. What about It's Raining Men?

Hallelujah. The Rain by Orange Juice Jones. That's a good jam. What about Rain? It's Raining Men. Hallelujah. The Rain by Orange Juice Jones. That's a big one. I saw you walking in the rain. Rain, rain, rain by the Rea Statics. It's all for real. Candy rain.

I'm going to be picking one more rain jam if we're all fucking getting to do it. Okay, one more bonus jam here. Hey. What's going on, everybody? So this is a jam I discovered on a

CBC documentary as a younger man. CBC did a doc about, you know, CanCon and I was all in and I never heard this song until that documentary and I've loved it ever since. I'll play it on rainy days. Public radio. It's like Willie P. Bennett. It ties into an FOTM

Diana Swain story. I hope you're enjoying your Sunday. Bruce Cockburn. Driving around. Yeah. Rain drops keep falling on my head. That's a good one. That's a good one.

I'm going to dedicate one to my mom. Okay. Okay. Do you want to like DM it to me? DM it to me. Yeah. I'll get it set up. Here's a song that Mike knows. Well, it's not played on CD. Who are you listening to?

This is Chilliwack. Oh, wow. Of course it is. Okay. Of course, Diana Swain was Miss Chilliwack. There you go. And this is called Rayno. Tim Raines.

Don't forget the Beatles, Rain. What's their song? Rain. It's called Rain? Yeah. Okay, here's the truth. What mega 90s band was originally called Rain? Oh, wow.

And now there's sort of a famous tribute act to this band called Rain. That part I think I fucked up. There's a tribute act to the Beatles called Rain. Okay, that's what I'm thinking of. Okay, strike that part. But this band was originally called Rain after the Beatles song.

That's a big clue. What band would name themselves after a Beatles song? Maroon 5. No, a 90s mega act. Oasis. Oasis, yeah. Originally called Rain. Really?

I got it right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, wait. Before you play this, Mike, don't start my song yet. I've discovered this song as a young man

watching a CBC documentary. You do know we played this for somebody, an FOTM? That's what I was going to say. So I want to bring it all back to the beginning here. Yes, good idea. Because we did lose Beck, and we started this episode, so I think this is a fitting tribute to her. And also my mom, who used to play this

whenever she would drive me to auditions and stuff. She loved this artist, despite his drug problems. She loved him unconditionally, and she used to blast it. And this is a great song. And as a kid, I probably didn't. This is one of those goat cheese artists, and we talk about all the time how you get older and you start liking goat cheese.

You start to like this artist. Comes around. And when you're 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 years old and you're talking about orgies on Lawrence Dayne sets, you probably don't want to hear this song. You want to hear the Reflex or beat it or Billie Jean. This guy's like the biggest wimp in the world. You don't want to hear this, but now you're older and you're like, oh, okay.

He helped Homer in when he was in space. But now you're like, okay, so here's a bonus ring. Really? One last swig in honor of Mike. But for Beck, one more tribute to Beck. If any of her family managed to sit through this hellhole of two hours after we started,

cheers to Beck. Rest peacefully, Beck. Yesterday morning, they let me know you were gone. Suzanne, the plans they made put an end to you. Great song. Excellent rain jam. You know, we could have done a couple of CCR

songs. There's a couple of great rain CCR songs. I just can't remember who to send it to. Just remember, we did play this for Sheila. I've seen fire and I've seen rain. Cheers to Sheila as well. Why not?

Shout out to Moose Grumpy for mentioning that. Would lightning crashes be a rain song? According to Mike. What about thunder rolls? Yeah, like thunder, rain, clouds. Thunderstruck. Yeah. And that could be kicked out next time.

My mom just texted great songs, and she sat through this whole episode. Blessings to Trudy. I remember I had some stuff I wanted to tell Wise Blot, but I guess... Oh, yeah. What did you want to tell me what you wanted to tell Wise Blot? I had written down what I wanted to say to him. I can't find it.

He didn't last long. He was here for like 12 minutes. Did you guys talk about Scott Hall? I feel like you didn't. No. We only have three hours So you have to understand We have to do a lot of cutting

Yeah Rain jams guys We did it Good topic Well here let's really close With Beck then okay Let's really close with Beck here Because

This was Beck's favorite song Of all time And then we'll say goodbye But I love this guys This was Beck's favorite song of all time. And then we'll say goodbye. But I love this, guys. Love spending my toast time with you. Good and good. And again, if you want to hear Beck talking about why she loves this song in her own words,

you don't have to dig too deep in the Toronto Mike feed to find it. It's this song, and then we hear Beck tell us why she loved this song. World Container by the Tragically Hip. Let's just do a quick poll before we wrap it up. If you had a good time in the chat live, watching us live tonight, please press 1 so we know that you're still here. You made it all the way

through. You love Beck. You love Toast. Shout out to Auntie Sandy. All of that good stuff. 1 if you're still with us and you enjoyed yourself this evening. See, the one's pouring in. I don't see any yet, but they will. My mic's ahead of you.

Oh, mine's frozen. I'm ahead of you, as usual. Honestly, they're going to break the internet. Shout out to Ian Service, who put together the Pirate Stream. I will say this. We do this every third Thursday of the month and I find that the day after toast I'm still riding that high and I'm thinking

about the next toast and I usually pick my jams the next day for four and a half weeks or whatever the fuck it is. How many weeks it is? Sometimes it could be five weeks. One month. It's a month at least. It's the week though so it's weird. But it's too infrequent. Now, Stu and I

would do this more frequently. We just want to make sure the FOTMs know it's all Cam Gordon's fault that we're only doing this once a month. Cam, do you disagree? I don't think

that's completely accurate. Sounds like Slash's solo from November Rain. This sounds like a stage show. MF in the building. Really? Multitasking with here. Wow.

Shout out to MF. Be home soon, MF. Bring home some, where is she? Some poma pasta? No, bring home some Great Lakes for MF. Can I do that? Yeah, you can bring home some. I'll get you more. Thank you. There bring home some. I'll get you more.

Thank you. There's two here and I'll get you more. Awesome. I didn't know you drink. You can have some. You want Great Lakes? Okay. I'm not withholding.

Gilbert Godfrey would want me to take it. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Gilbert Godfrey. Shout out to... Oh, she's been here all night, MF, apparently. Oh, she got like two thumbs up from the smiling. April Wine. She wants you to bring and a smiley. April Wine. She wants you to bring home some April Wine.

Miles Goodwine. Gents, I had a good time. She says yes, please, on the GLB. Yeah, but I don't have any Hayes Mama, but I have some good stuff. She says bring home the GLB, but don't bring home drunk Mike. She didn't say that. She wouldn't say that. For the record, I am not drunk.

I would tell you if I were drunk. I would be proudly drunk. I'd be like, I'm not driving anywhere. I am drunk. But I'm not even buzzed. I don't think I'm buzzed. You're just a bit tipsy. I don't think I'm even tipsy. I'm a little sloppy.

I'm just happy. You're confusing happy with tipsy. Can I be happy? By head? It all comes back to head. It all comes back to head. It all comes back to head. What does everybody want? Shout out to Noah. All right, everybody.

We'll see you in fucking May. May 50th. Orgy did the Blue Monday cover, right? What's an orgy? Right? Orgies, yeah. That's a good cover. Like, you know,

New Order's Blue Monday. Oh, it's. Yeah. That's a good cover. Like, you know, new, new orders. Blue Monday. Oh, it's slightly heavier. Decisive got Mike to stop playing this to keep going with this. Yeah. Yeah. He did like another 10. I know.

Not since, uh, Merrick has that happened. Hey, who's the other one? Fear factory did cars, right? They did cars.

Uh, coal chamber did Shock the Monkey. It's funny how they all happen. I remember Cars and what's the one we were just talking about? Cars, Blue Monday, Shock the Monkey as well. Like Sweet Dreams. Oh my God, we should do Monkey Jams because there's Shock the Monkey. There's George Michael's Monkey.

I will say that we will over the summer at some point, we should discuss one of the episodes being like a live event. Okay, but we have one happening. No, I'm saying like a live toast event. Would you want that to be TML at 10? Where's that? At Great Lakes Brewery in August. That would be great. That would be fun.

I haven't picked a day yet because Lieve Fumke doesn't want me to pick a day she's out of town. But I think it would be great to do a toast live. She's the fucking gatekeeper here. Okay, we will discuss that. Okay. Thanks for joining us at Live.Toronto.

Yeah, Monkey Wrench from Foo Fighters. Yeah. Monkey Man by The Specials. There's so many good... Oh, Monkey Gone to Heaven? Yeah, Pixies. Very good.

Yeah. Tons of monkey jokes. 12 Little Monkeys Jumping on the Bed by Sharon Lowe's and Bram. One of them passed. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Okay.

Monkey Ranch. Yeah, Monkey Ranch. Monkey Sucker by the Killjoys. It's featured on the Boy Club. Boys Club. Fish has a song called Sleeping Monkey. Alien Ant Farm. Wait a minute.

Oh, that's because we were talking about covers. 80s horror movie, The Blue Monkey. Do you remember the cover of Don Henley's Boys of Summer? Who was that? Tari's. Oh, Bootsauce. Love Monkey No. 9. Oh, my God. Bootsauce. Those are the was that? Tari's. Oh, Bootsauce. Love Monkey No. 9. Oh, my God.

Bootsauce. They're the assholes, right? Everybody says they hated Bootsauce. Okay. Anyway. The monkeys. Hey, hey, we're the monkeys. Hey, hey, we're the monkeys.

That's right. So, Cam Gordon, you're fucking amazing, and I love every minute I spend with you. This is a rash. When Beck passed away at 48, I realized that's our age. I know it's really my age almost, but you two are like getting there. When Beck passed away at 48, I realized that's our age. I know it's really my age almost, but you two are like getting there.

He's born in the 80s. Any of us could be gone at any time. Yes. Enjoy every sandwich. Totally. Okay, Cam, love it when you visit.

Thanks for having us. Stew Stone, you're a mensch. Thank you. You're a mensch. And congratulations on the Toronto Star. I think we covered that last time, but we can cover it every time as far as I'm concerned.

And that. And that. Stinger. Luger. Hogan. Longest line in the park. And that! And that and that

brings us to the end of our 1038th special show. No, can't do that? Our 1038th show. You can follow me on Twitter.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Cam Gordon is at Cam underscore Gordon. Better be. Stew Stone is at Stew Stone. Sure is. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery. I was there today. Yeah, we know.

Binge drinking. Evidence. Well, the price was right. At Great Lakes Beer. At Godfrey special. Palma Pasta's at Palma Pasta. Great. Sticker U's at Sticker U.

What? By the next time we see each other, the Raptors will be in the third round. Oh, my God. I would like to put some Bodog dollars against that. Ridley Funeral Home are at Ridley FH. You know, I would like to say we need to stop shouting out Ridley Funeral Home if God would allow that. People need to stop dying. Should we shout out the people on the live stream?

There's a lot of great people. Tobias Vaughn is there. Live stream. You know, Canada Kev is there. Moose Grumpy is there. YYZ Gord. Zed. Five Dollar Shake is there.

I love that. He says, another beaut. Who is that? Five Dollar Shake. I don't know. I love that. He says another beaut. Who is that? $5 shake? I don't know. I don't know $5 shake. Big pop picture. Johnny O.

Andy. Johnny O. Grudnick. Andrew Ward. Joe Louis. Great cakes. Great basement dweller. The brother, not to be confused with Brother Bill. Oh, I got to wrap up quickly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canna Cabana. Is. Canna Cabana is at canna cabana underscore. See you all Monday when my guest is Dave fucking Thomas. Wow. Wendy's? Peru. Shout out to Ridley

Funeral Home. Oh, stop it.