Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST21 Accordion Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1352

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

In this 21st episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out accordion jams, or good songs with an accordion in the mix. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by ...Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Pumpkins After Dark, Ridley Funeral Home, Electronic Products Recycling Association, Raymond James Canada and Moneris. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:01:38 Valuable perspective for Canadian investors who want to remain knowledgeable, informed, and focused on long-term success. Season five of Yes, We Are Open, an award-winning podcast hosted by FOTM El Grego, Flormonaris, and Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning for this 21st episode of Toast is Rob Pruce. Welcome, Rob. Great to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Now, normally I'd say, and Bob Ouellette, and I will do that in a moment, but Bob, one of Bob's children was feeling unwell, so Bob was unable to make the trek to New Toronto, but he will join us via Zoom. He did join us, right, Rob? He was here and then he's gone. Well, because we kicked him out. Yeah, we did actually. We said, hey, Bob, don't you host Bob's Basement?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Like we know you have a good microphone set up and he's like, oh, it's not set up right now. And he was just- But he said it like this. And I'm like, no, this is Toronto Mic'd, okay, Bob? We have the same standards as Bob's basement. Like you wouldn't do that shitty audio for your podcast. Why would you do it for Toronto Mike?
Starting point is 00:02:50 No. Okay. So he's coming back any minute now. He said, oh, it takes me 10 minutes to set up. We basically said, Bob, get your ass into setup mode and join us. Yeah. How are you doing, Rob Pruth? I'm doing good.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I'm doing good. Glad to be here. I'm, uh, I did a couple of, well, I did a gig at the Moonshine Cafe on Wednesday night and I'm playing there again tonight. Tell me how it went at the Moonshine Cafe. It was good. It was a thing called Planet of the Loops. And a friend of mine, a guitar player named Andrew Aldridge has done this thing over like
Starting point is 00:03:19 the last 25 years. He's had this ongoing, uh, thing that he does where he gets different musicians together basically with loop pedals and effects and sort of it becomes like an ambient sort of experimental improvisatory it feels to me like you're doing more gta gigs is that just my just because i'm noticing more or have you been doing more i am doing more because i've never done done them before so yeah definitely this year has been a time for me to come out and just try doing some stuff um which i've you know i've been doing shows in new york for so long right and then in the last done them before. So yeah, definitely this year has been a time for me to come out and just try doing some stuff, which I've,
Starting point is 00:03:46 you know, I've been doing shows in New York for so long. Right. And then in the last couple of years, well, then there was the time of COVID, but during that time I kept thinking,
Starting point is 00:03:52 oh, I miss doing like live shows and stuff. And so having done my, my few solo shows this year as a sort of a starting point, yeah, just doing other things.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Tonight I'm doing with some friends. We're going to play the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Amazing. At the Moonshinehine yeah and they throw toast in that they sure do and this is toast yeah happy toast day and this is the anniversary of street bands uh toast release 45 years ago today isn't that a great coincidence it really is and we open every episode uh who did i learn that scott turner yep he does his i love his like on this day stuff me
Starting point is 00:04:20 too eat that up you know like toast and uh I subtweeted it and I'm like, we're going to play it today because it's toast. Amazing. I find it interesting that New York's own Rob Bruce is here in the studio
Starting point is 00:04:33 and East York's own Bob Lillet is joining us remotely. I was thinking the first couple of toasts that I did, it was the other way, remember?
Starting point is 00:04:40 That I zoomed in. Yeah. And it always felt weird. We always said, oh, you got it. And then we said, no more zooms. But we had this,
Starting point is 00:04:44 like it was so organized and arranged and Bob's excuse was really good. Yeah. remember that I zoomed in and it always felt weird. We always said, Oh, you got it. And then we said no more zooms, but we had this like, it was so organized and arranged and Bob's excuse was really good. Yep. So we said, we're working properly though. My mic was working good when I zoomed in. Yeah. You almost,
Starting point is 00:04:54 sometimes you were over modulated actually. Like you're almost, you're just so hot. It's my enthusiasm. That's from the Toronto rocks day. We knew that Rob Bruce, I had Brad Giffen, but he says he never talked to spoons.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It was all John major doing the spoon stuff or maybe JD Roberts. But did you ever talk to Brad Giffen, but he says he never talked to Spoons. It was all John Major doing the Spoons stuff, or maybe J.D. Roberts, but did you ever talk to Brad Giffen? You know what? Actually, now that you say that, in my mind, I would have thought we had Brad, but I don't think we ever did. It was always John. Yep. John Major. Yep. Coincidentally, there's a name that's been popping up lately on Toronto Mic, particularly with Catherine
Starting point is 00:05:19 McClanahan, who's the first female VJ in much music history, and again with Jonathan Gross. This name has been popping up. Farberman. What about Jonathan Gross? Oh, Jonathan Gross. who's the first female vj in much music history and again with jonathan gross this name uh has been popping up you should farberman what about jonathan oh jonathan gross that was an award winning episode okay which award am i gonna win because only uh the most entertaining episode of the month only al grego wins awards for his podcast um yeah paul farberman was a manager in my spoons era too okay can i can okay i want to feel but did you know he managed very early in his career like literally like teenager uh jim carrey yes okay tell me more
Starting point is 00:05:52 about what you know about paul farberman because i talked to him yesterday because he manages a rapper you might have heard of named snow and paul phony in fact brad jones from ridley funeral home witnessed this phone call because it was just before we recorded Life's Undertaken and he could hear Paul on the other line. Paul basically saying, I want to get snow on Toronto Mike. But how do you know Paul Farberman?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Well, this is the funny weird thing that in my memory of, you know, it's a long time ago and we were dealing with lawyers signing record contracts and like, you know, negotiating things for us and all that stuff. And in my mind, I now don't remember if Paul Farberman represented us or our record company because I knew I knew him really well.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Was it Sony who you were with? No, this was with our label Ready Records, our indie label when we first signed. And I think he might have been one of our first lawyers. We had a few over the years, but definitely I knew Paul in those days. Yeah. So I talked to him yesterday and he's a mover and shaker.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Oh my God. He's been around and he's done everything. Yeah. It's so cool. And he's going to get snow on Toronto Mike, which is exciting. Are you going to talk to Paul himself too, though? Do you want me to? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I'm sure I didn't yet offer the invitation, but maybe I should. Maybe talk to him. I'm going to shout out quickly just before Bob Ouellette joins us. And we're going to do accordion jams today. These are songs we like that have an accordion in the mix. Yep. So you're all excited about that, Rob?
Starting point is 00:07:11 When you first mentioned it, I was like, really? Accordions? And then as time goes on and I started thinking, actually on the way home from the last episode, all these songs started
Starting point is 00:07:19 sort of popping into my head. So I realized it's more than we think. Well, I'll elaborate more as we get closer to kicking out these accordion jams. But I found this very difficult because I'm not a musician and my ear is not sure
Starting point is 00:07:29 if I'm listening to an accordion. Right. I'll elaborate on this later. I will quickly shout out five FOTMs that I just saw lit green on the live stream, live.torontomic.com. That means they actually logged in to comment. That's HeyRef, Leslie,
Starting point is 00:07:42 sorry, Leslie, Moose Grumpy, Tobias Vaughn, and YYZ Gord, who says he hears some, they're all tuned in. YYZ Gord is saying he hears a bit of weird feedback on the live stream, but I can just say on my end, everything is operating normally. So I don't even know what to change. Although I suppose I could unplug and plug in again. Do this very quickly while we wait for... So he's here now. So I'm going to do a quick little live stream trick
Starting point is 00:08:10 where I stop it. So guys, I'll be back. So we're not on the live stream for a moment. Let it clear out. And now I'll bring us back on the live stream. This is a lot of inside baseball here. And while I do that, I'll bring in Bob Ouellette because we want to talk to Bob.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And let's see how he sounds this time, Rob. You ready to hear his acoustics? All right, we're going to angle it like that a bit. Okay, gentlemen, this is the host, the esteemed host of Bob's Basement joining us with the proper microphone. And he's now connecting to audio to join us all the way from East York.
Starting point is 00:08:45 He's not actually connected yet. He's shaking his head, everybody. He's going to be back here. So can you tell me, here's a question for you, Rob, while we wait for Bob to realize he can't get this thing working here. So it's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:58 We'll take the underwater Bob Willett. But my question for you is, because this has been coming up lately, what are your memories of playing the ontario place forum oh so many memories first of all um before i played there i had gone there like as a kid my mom i think the first concert i saw there was patsy gallant you know who patsy gallant is no come on i know patsy klein patsy gallant she was from quebec i'm a star in new york i'm a star. You don't, it's before your time.
Starting point is 00:09:26 She had a TV show for a while. Oh, Bob, can you hear us? Yeah, but you're going to, my computer, because I use Teams at work
Starting point is 00:09:34 and Teams messes things up. I may have to, you're only hearing me through my computer. I'll take, I'll take this, I'll take this Bob over, no Bob. So hang it,
Starting point is 00:09:43 you can just, just do this. Are you sure? Let me at least try the iPod headphones. And Rob's telling us a story about Ontario Place Forum. So I saw Patsy Glant, who you don't know, but listeners I know Patsy Glant.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Hi Bob. So she was like the first one I saw. So he knows those French Canadian singers. But then we played there. I think the first one I saw. Well, that's a French name, you know. I know. So he knows those French Canadian singers. That's right. But then we played there, I think the first time was the summer of 84. This was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:10:12 But we played three nights and it was kind of magical, you know, like just spinning around and the whole, the day, the event of like having people come and hanging out all day long when we're doing soundcheck and you pay admission to get in and stuff. we played there two years in a row which was
Starting point is 00:10:27 super exciting and then i played there uh one time with honeymoon suite as well and then i the last time i played there was in the 90s i played with the moody blues wow yeah i was part of the orchestra in your wildest dreams in my wildest dreams uh i was not wearing white satin um but i was part of the orchestra and because you know as they did these tours and they would pick up a local orchestra to beef up the sound. And I was doing a show at the time and the contractor was like, hey, you know, come and play this. So it was super cool to like be on the stage again. And like that was 94. I think the forum closed either that year or the next year.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Sure. Absolutely. Around then. Bob, what was the first show you saw at the Ontario Place Forum? Does this sound any better or is this worse? The same. But it's fine. The same. Alright. It's fine. Sorry. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Alright. Well, hang on. Let me try one more thing. Because I want to hear about your trip to Disney World before we get into this thing. Oh, yeah. And Rob's very excited to hear about your trip to Disney World. Yes. In the meantime, I will play a clip of me talking to,
Starting point is 00:11:32 you mentioned Amy Milan moments ago, Rob. I think that was before we pressed record. But Amy Milan, what did you think of her appearance on Toronto Night? Loved it. She was good. The guest appearance with...
Starting point is 00:11:43 You forgot his name. Sam Roberts. Yep, Sam. Another Quebec artist. Okay. So Samberts so she was on two episodes in a row like literally recorded back to back but she amy was telling me about the fact she was playing hayden's event which is called dream serenade the proceeds go to a special needs school that uh his daughter attends very good cause very good event and amy's like, oh, there's a special guest. And off the cuff, this is what happens. I'm going to play a clip of me
Starting point is 00:12:10 talking to Amy. This is on like a Friday afternoon and Dream Serenade is on a Saturday. You ready? You can tell us there is a surprise guest or two that will be on the bill. Yes, there is. Can you give us a clue so we can have some fun trying to guess? I mean, rock icons. Oh you give us a clue so we can have some fun trying to guess? I mean, rock icons of Canada.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Glass Tiger. I don't know if that's the truth. Anyway, you'll just have to see. See, it can't be Glass Tiger, because there's no way I could randomly pull a Canadian act and it be correct. But wink if that's right, and I won't say it. I have an NDA.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I have an NDA. I could be sued by the Dream Serenade. Taken to court. Did she wink? No, she didn't wink but I could tell by her face.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I nailed it. Of course. And it's funny because the only clue was, I don't know, what did she say again? Rock royalty. And without, there's no editing in that clip, okay? It's not like I thought about it. I just, the first, The only clue was, I don't know, what did she say again? Rock royalty.
Starting point is 00:13:06 There's no editing in that clip. It's not like I thought about it. For some reason, because they seem very accessible, like they're here. I just saw them at this Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction. I feel like if you ask them nicely, they'll play TMLX14. So I spit out the name Glass Tiger. It turns out that was the correct answer. Glass Tiger was the special
Starting point is 00:13:26 guest at the Eternate. So what do you think of my prediction skills? You were spot on. Actually, when you said it, I could tell too by the pause in her reaction, I thought, oh, that's totally what it is. Let's check in with Bob Ouellette joining us live from East York. Bob, you there? You sound like a TV news show now.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You're muted. I can't hear anything from you. Let's check. Let's try this now. How about that that this is like ted knight on the mary tyler moore show reporting the news in a snowstorm i didn't you know what i just i didn't have my student i apologize very unprofessional of me it's quite all right um i am not all right with me this guy's too nice you know you know me where are you i am uh technically in the original Toronto. East York starts north of the Danforth. I am south of the Danforth. I've been wrongly saying bomboulettes from East York for about 10 years now. You said it again today too?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Not from East York. But you know what? East York is fine. Nobody loves a Canadian flag more than an East Yorker. Oh, that used to be a good thing, but now it's concerning. Yeah, it's something. I am fine. I apologize. I, it's something. I am fine. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I was ready to go. I've been, but you didn't like my setup. And so I apologize. And I'm telling you, I probably, if I did one more restart, I could probably get my proper mic going. Maybe during a song. Maybe during a song try, yeah. Yeah, maybe during a song.
Starting point is 00:14:38 But can you tell us about your trip to Disney World? Yes. So I went to Disneyland in California. Oh, California. I get all the details wrong right yeah so yeah investigative reporter mike boom um uh we uh so it's been on the books for a while um i think i told you guys i actually used cameo to get one of the voice actors from uh from from uh uh the that what the hell's the one i called with it we don't talk
Starting point is 00:15:03 about bruno anyway oh right the incantos the incantos right so we had we had that last christmas that was their christmas gift we had this woman we paid the the actress who from the show she sang the song with that on a cameo saying that we're going to go to disneyland in 2023 so we decided we picked the first week of october beautiful weather for the most part in anaheim. We had an Airbnb in Anaheim. It was a $9 Uber ride to the park. We did, aside from there being some family drama of a sickness nature, the Wednesday before we left by an eight-year-old who is sick today again, started throwing up the Wednesday before we left on the Sunday. And weold who is sick today again, started throwing up. The Wednesday before we left on the Sunday.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And we thought, okay, well, this might be who knows. Hopefully it's just nothing viral. But until the Sunday morning we woke up, my 13-year-old woke up throwing up. Oh, jeez. And then my wife threw up on the plane. Oh, for God's sake. Oh, yeah. No, it was bad.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It was really bad. But we all rallied. Monday we went to Magic Kingdom, Classic Park. A lot of fun. Paid for the genie pass so we could get right a line bypass the um star wars um uh rise of the rebels or is absolutely one of the most amazing things i've ever been on wow um and we did that and then tuesday morning we were going to go to universal studios hollywood and who threw up i threw up oh correct oh mickey who threw up? I threw up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:25 You're correct. Oh, Mickey Mouse threw up. No, yeah. Oh, yeah. Bob Willett threw up. I gave something to Mickey Mouse. So anyhow, long story short, I missed Universal Studios Hollywood. However, I was talking to the PR person there ahead of time, saying that I was coming.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And I was going to dedicate an entire, I still haven't done it yet. We're going to dedicate an entire episode of Bob's basement to, to, to the, to the show. She's so for that, she's like, Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Here's free parking. And here's line bypass for the Nintendo ride, which is the big ride. And I was like, cool. Thank you. However, because I didn't go,
Starting point is 00:17:00 they didn't give it to me. So they didn't give it to my family because I wasn't there. So I emailed, I emailed her and I didn't. So we paid a lot of money to go to this park it's with the line bypass universal studios is 200 a person american yeah holy with line bypass without line bypass it's 100 so i emailed my person there and i said hey this was going to be a thank you for everything yesterday however nothing happened i was hoping i could get my ticket that I didn't use on Tuesday transferred to Thursday. And we'll buy another one.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And she said, well, does your family want to go again? And I said, maybe we do have a free day on Thursday. She gave us seven free passes for the Thursday. Wow. Yeah. Wasn't that kind of her? Um, well you are Bob from Bob's basement. That's right. That's right. You know, um, she was wonderful. I, and of course I will, uh, it's a, it's a terrific park. The Harry Potter and the Simpsons lands are just
Starting point is 00:17:57 insane. Um, the rides are cool. Uh, I, you know, we were in the, the fair, I was in a theme parks for four days there because there's also disney california adventure yes so they were there for four days i was there for three we were there for seven days total uh i'd love to go back to california do some california things i did go to the comedy store which was cool um but uh universe i highly recommend of course not just because she was nice to me but universal Universal Studios Hollywood is amazing. It's got the classic Jaws ride. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Nice. And, yeah, it was, besides the entire family throwing up at a certain point, it was a very good trip. And at the Comedy Store, of course, which is like the mecca of comedy, we went on a random Wednesday night in the old room, in the original room, and our walk-on was Sebastian Maniscaliscalco oh cool i love him so that was pretty cool to see him do 15 minutes in front of like 60 people yeah um and uh and it was and then the rest it went all night like it was a very long show wow they would it started at eight and i don't i think the last comedian
Starting point is 00:19:04 finished at midnight. Like it was long. Like they just kept going and going. And it was people just coming on and working out new stuff. But the most recognizable name was Sebastian Maniscalco. All right. All right. Amazing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So on that note, so congrats on a successful trip. But Rob and I, I know you're not here, Bob. I'm not. But you crack what you want to crack. But first, Rob and I are going to crack our Great Lakes beer. I got to go get it. Okay, go get your thing. Can we pop without you?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, go ahead. Okay, so Rob proves what he got there, a Canuck Pale Ale. That's probably the most popular Great Lakes beer there is, I think so. They're all good. I'm going to crack open a Octopus Wants to Fight on the mic. Three, two. Cheers to you, Rob. Cheers. And cheers, gentlemen. Virtual to Toronto's own Bob Ouellette
Starting point is 00:19:49 Cheers Bob Cheers, cheers, thank you Feels like you're right here You know what that means? Bob Ouellette's in old Toronto And I'm in new Toronto with Rob Bruce That's right I'm the OG Yeah, I can't afford to live in the real Toronto, okay?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Your area's really cute. I got here a little early and I drove down Lakeshore a little bit and like in the actual Ridley home, Ridley Funeral Home. Ridley Funeral Home is 14th and Lakeshore. Yes, it's so nice to actually see the building. It sort of surprised me to run into it. You can go in and pre-plan your funeral. You can pay for it and plan it all now
Starting point is 00:20:22 and then when you die, we just make one call and they take care of everything else. It's just done. In fact, let's do that after the recording. Let's do that. Yeah, yeah. We'll walk over together. But not for you, for Bob.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I'm worried about his health. Okay. So, okay, gentlemen. So we're going to get to accordion jams. What are you drinking, Bob? So my first jam actually has something to do a little bit with this beer, which is called Iceberg from Kitty Vinny Brewery in St. John's. my my first jam actually has something to do a little bit with this beer which is called it's it's uh iceberg from kitty vitty brewery in st john's so do you want to hold on to that story
Starting point is 00:20:51 yeah yeah sure of course but so um yeah this not really has much to do with it but this beer supposedly so this you can't get this at the lcbo that's why i'm not i'm not stepping on glb's toes by by drinking this well that's good to hear sponsors um but this beer is supposed it literally says right on it bought brewed with pure iceberg water harvested from our shores okay and it's iceberg beer and you can only get it newfoundland it is the crispest beer i've ever had in my life crispest okay so you newfoundland i just gotta say i mentioned him earlier because that's what we do in the show we mentioned him a lot but fotml grego just went like fairly recently went to newfoundland to talk to small business owners in newfoundland and he he recorded the
Starting point is 00:21:36 stories and they're part of season five of yes we are open yes we are open and uh shout out to that great podcast and everybody should subscribe. Also, that speaker is still killing it. Well, you know what? Since, I don't know, Bob's got his out there. Not that anyone can see Bob except me, but this stand you gave me last toast,
Starting point is 00:21:56 I use it so when I record, I now stick my phone right on top. It's changed my work life. But you can move it anywhere you want. Sorry, I didn't move the whole thing. He's very passionate about this, Bob. I know. It works great with my OnlyFans. Yeah, and you can turn it sideways you want. Sorry, I didn't move the whole thing. He's very passionate about this, Bob. I know. It works great with my OnlyFans. Yeah, and you can turn it sideways when you're watching.
Starting point is 00:22:08 How much money do you think Bob makes in OnlyFans? You'd be surprised. I'd be surprised. I'd like to know. No. I wish. I do not have an OnlyFans. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I got to get serious for a moment. Before the accordion jams, I do have a fun little string of songs related to the season we're in right now which is halloween but we're not kicking out halloween jams because we had the fotms do that and if people recently i just dropped that episode thank you i was gonna do that for you but you were gonna get mad at me because for my choice well i love getting mad at you like more reason for you to do that i love getting mad at you but here's for you to do that. I love getting mad at you. But here's a little song because I want to talk about somebody. We never tested
Starting point is 00:22:50 if Bob can hear this. Bob, can you hear this? Yeah. You know, us three guys, three Gen X guys, grew up watching the boob tube. Three's Company was a big deal for me. I thought we could spend a moment just talking about Suzanne Somers,
Starting point is 00:23:19 who passed away since our last recording. Who wants to go first? Any thoughts on Suzanne Somers? So Three's Company for me, I think, what did it end in? Like 82, 83? Something? Something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I feel like it was a four or six year run. But in syndication, it seemed like it was on all the time. And it took me a while as a kid to get the premise is always something is misunderstood yeah somebody has misheard something right and uh and the big actually you know who's a big three's company fan is danko jones he has a podcast about three's company yeah yeah it's called the regal beagle podcast oh funny yeah he reviews every episode in it. And we had a heated discussion about Mr. Furley versus Mr. Roper.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Who do you like? Look, I was a kid when I liked it. I kind of related Mr. Furley a little more. I thought he was sillier. Yeah, yeah. I wonder how many seasons was it before he finally came in? Because I think when I was young enough that I started watching from the beginning. Okay, I have a story real quick here
Starting point is 00:24:25 which is that the Ropers got a spinoff called The Ropers. So they took these main characters out of Three's Company for The Ropers. Mr. Furley came in.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's right. Famous from Andy of Mayberry and all that. Don Knotts. Don Knotts. And many other things. But Don Knotts comes in
Starting point is 00:24:40 and then The Ropers pilot, not pilot, the spinoff fails miserably and then The Ropers pilot, not pilot, the spinoff fails miserably and then the Ropers are not invited back. So it's like, go do your spinoff. When it fails, they don't get to come back to Three's company. So they kind of got screwed over there.
Starting point is 00:24:56 It was the era of spinoffs. It really was. I mean, Mork & Mindy was a spinoff from Happy Days, right? Which is the weirdest thing ever. Yeah, that is weird because the Happy Days is a show that takes place in the 50s, filmed in the 70s, and then suddenly... An alien shows up.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But Mork is definitely from the 70s. Oh my God, yeah. So if you think about it, so we're supposed to be in the 50s in Happy Days. So what is the spinoff taking place in the 70s? You remember they age backwards if they're from Mork because remember Jonathan Winters?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh my God, that's right. He was just a kid. Right. Diapers. Oh my God.ters? Oh my God. That's right. He was just a kid. So, you know, diapers. Oh my God. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:27 That's right. So Suzanne Summers, Thighmaster. Was that her? Yep. That's her. Yeah. That's my,
Starting point is 00:25:33 that's my memory of Suzanne Summers. Thighmaster. What about she's the sheriff? Does anyone here remember? She's the sheriff. I remember that. I vaguely remember it. I didn't watch it,
Starting point is 00:25:40 but I remember the name. And of course the, uh, step-by-step, not, was it called step-by-step? Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:44 With the guy from Dallas. Yes remember the name. And of course, the Step by Step. Was it called Step by Step? Yes. Right, with the guy from Dallas. Yes, Patrick something or other. Patrick. Patrick Ewing? Yeah. Patrick Duffy? Patrick Duffy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:53 He was also the man from Atlantis. So Suzanne Somers was a big star. Like all these big things, she just seemed to be omnipresent. And of course, she was great on Three's Company until she was replaced by the dumb one. Why did I not take notes on this? So there were three girls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah replaced by uh the dumb one why did i not take notes on this so there are three girls right yeah yeah terry's the last one chrissy snow yep right who was like a cousin and really dumb and then terry comes in she was a she was a nurse yes oh yeah there were three yeah there were three yep and then later we'll rank them in order and
Starting point is 00:26:22 like i started watching that show when i was fairly young. Like when it started, I was probably 11 or 12 years old. So I, you know, saw it when it was a new like once a week show. And then it was many years later. How old are you, Rob? I'm old enough. It was many years later when I finally saw American Graffiti for the first time. And she's got that cameo. And I was like, oh my God, there's Suzanne Somers.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And I didn't, you know, working backwards, she was already so famous from Three's Company. You know who else? Because I saw that on Late Great Movies, American Graffiti. And not only is Richie Cunningham's in that thing, but it's Laverne and Shirley. Shirley's in that thing. Shirley Feeney, yeah. And that's where I learned about Wolfman Jack. And all of a sudden, hey, I know Wolfman Jack is in that American Graffiti.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Right. And yet I knew Wolfman Jack from the Guess Who song, Clap for the Wolfman. Right. Because that was on the radio when I was like nine years old. I think. Yeah. I thought that was cool.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I love it. It all comes together. It all comes together. Eight seasons by the way. Eight seasons. Yeah. 77 to 84. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:14 But like you Bob I'm with you. I knew it as a syndicated show after school. Right. I never saw it weekly. I remember the joy of when I was young enough
Starting point is 00:27:21 to watch TV shows that I had to wait once a week to see the shows. Yes. That then became syndication where you could watch them every day after school. Like when I was coming home after school, I was watching Gilligan's Island because it was already 10 years old. Right. You know what I mean? And like, it was also on when we came home too. Yes, exactly. So for so many years they were syndicated, but it was, I remember that feeling of like watching the Brady Bunch like
Starting point is 00:27:39 once a week and like, Oh my God, I can't wait. I remember Bob, you might, I remember when much music started airing the monkeys. Oh yeah. And there was like yeah in the mid to late 80s there was like a resurgence of monkey mania yes that's right because our parents were like the baby we'd never seen it yeah that's right we'd never seen that and then the hello world let's come on get happy partridge family kind of piggybacked on the heels of the monkeys thing. And that became a big deal too. Yep. Okay. Speaking of shows,
Starting point is 00:28:07 uh, this one's for Rob Pruce. Come on. Is that you on keyboards, Rob? Nope. I played that the other night at the moonshine. I'll bet you did.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So I watched the documentary on Mr. Dress up. It's on prime. You guys can all watch it right now. And I just, I'm just here to say it's beautiful and I cried. I hear everybody's crying. Have you seen it yet, Bob?
Starting point is 00:28:30 Not yet. No, I haven't. I'm going to watch it with my wife and kids because my kids were bought a DVD, a three DVD box set from the CBC store by my father-in-law for them and they grew up watching Mr. Dress Up
Starting point is 00:28:46 even though it wasn't on. So they love Mr. Dress Up. They have their own tickle trunk downstairs. That my father-in-law made for them. Has Rob Pruse seen the Mr. Dress Up? I have not. Dude, it's amazing. I know, I'm so excited to watch it and I just like, as I was coming up this week, I thought, because it's available on Prime in the US as well, which I'm even more excited
Starting point is 00:29:01 about because I thought, do I have to watch it in Canada? But I don't. So when I get home, I'm watching it for sure. Okay, so it's highly, I recommend from yours truly is the Mr. Dress Up Dog. And there's a lot of FOTMs in there like Nina Keough and other people of that nature. It's pretty awesome here. Okay, so gentlemen, we are
Starting point is 00:29:18 kicking out accordion jams, but we are like a week out, less than a week out from Halloween. And the, as far as I'm concerned, the definitive Halloween jam is probably this one. We'll give it a moment to brew while I drink my
Starting point is 00:29:33 Great Lakes. I was working in the lab late one night When my eyes beheld an eerie sight For my monster from his slab began to rise And suddenly, to my surprise He did the match He did the monster match The monster match
Starting point is 00:30:01 It was a graveyard smash He did the match It caught on in a flash He did the match Rob Pruess, name that artist. Bobby Boris Pickett and the Crip Kicker Five. Well done. So I mentioned earlier there's an FOTM KOTJ on Halloween Jams, and Steve Cole did kick out this song, Monster Mash. You know, my kids, like my youngest kids,
Starting point is 00:30:26 know this song because it's in that Simpsons episode, the Valentine's Day episode, where they keep playing the Monster Mash by mistake or whatever. Bob, you're a program director for stations in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Are you guys playing Monster Mash this week? We will be only playing at halloween related jams on halloween day and really only on well that's not true both fresh and big will be doing it um but i would not say that uh i don't think monster monster mash might be in there i have
Starting point is 00:30:59 to check with my music director i give him pretty good free reign on those days. But, you know, I don't... It might get one spin on the classic hit station, not on the hot AC station. Not even on Halloween day itself, though. Not even then, you don't think? I feel like this is... That's the one day every station in the world can play Monster Mash.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Well, they can, but they can also not. Every day is Halloween. You could play the song every day. I bet you they won't play that in King Kong. No, not every day is Halloween. I would like to play that. See, you'd like to play that, but seriously, every day is Halloween. Because if you like monsters and stuff, which I did growing up,
Starting point is 00:31:34 and Halloween, it's like people who celebrate Valentine's Day, and they're like, you should have love every day of your life. There's one day to celebrate. I look at Halloween the same way. Every day is a monster day for me. So there's a method to my madness here, though. Okay, so I'm playing the original Monster Mash because this, again, it's, what is his name?
Starting point is 00:31:51 Boris. Bobby Boris Pickett. Bobby Boris Pickett and the Crypt Kickers. So they've been dining out, and he's no longer with us, but they dined out on this song forever. For example, listen up, my friends. It was the night before Christmas in the castle. My monsters were having a yuletide hassle.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The tree was all trimmed in ghoulish things, like werewolf fangs and vampire wings but they were up to no good he did like he must have done all the holidays so i'm just warming up here guys again we will get to accordion jams here but uh bob you can add this to the christmas playlist in kingston oh yes for sure we are the original, we are Kingston's original Christmas station. Okay, so you're like, okay, what's the call letters again? CKWS Fresh Radio.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Okay, I expect to hear Monsters Holiday when I go to Kingston this December. Okay. So I'm, again, I'm just warming up here. So that's the Christmas version of Monster Mash that Bobby Boris Pickett released. But listen closely, my friends. There's the Christmas version of Monster Mash that Bobby Boris Pickett released. But listen closely, my friends.
Starting point is 00:33:08 There's the bubbles. It's going to be Aerosmith. This way? No. God. Still working in the lab late these nights With eyes grown used to itty sights I created a monster who could dance and walk But I couldn't teach him how to talk
Starting point is 00:33:37 My faithful assistant, that hunchback fool Who wastes his time in DJ schools I have to get in, don't be a slap Eight degrees, the Monster Rap. You've got to shock the body. Shock the body, body. Shock the body. Shock the body, body.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Shock the body. Shock the body, body. Shock. Igor, you idiot. Yes, master. This is a rap version called Monster's Rap. Wow. Yes, master.
Starting point is 00:34:05 I'm guessing this is sometime in the 80s. Yeah, this has got to be mid to late 80s. That drum machine. I mean, you can even find Fred Flintstone rapping in the mid to late 80s. Everybody was rapping. But here's a little fun fact about the original Monster Mash. It came out in 1962. Did you guys know it went to number one on the Billboard Hot 100?
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yes. I actually did, yeah. Crazy. Wow, okay. And it's still charting on the Billboard Hot 100. Yes. I actually did, yeah. Crazy. Wow, okay. And it's still charting. But it's timeless. Like, that's the funny thing about a thing like that.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Like, it's not really of a moment. It's just because the holiday comes around every year and that song, it's like a Christmas song in that way, right?
Starting point is 00:34:37 It's evergreen. Yeah, but somebody on the live stream points out that Monster Mash is fun for the first minute and then... Unless you're eight years old, or nine years old.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And Canada Kev, he wants to state that those bubbles you hear at the beginning of Monster Mash are actually his bong. Yes. I saw a great... And I wish I knew the person who did it, but if you listen to the lyrics of Monster Mash, the song is about the song monster mash it's very bad if
Starting point is 00:35:07 you listen to the lyrics yes it's actually he's singing about the song oh right but you know what that was the thing in the now that you say that you're right because that was like the chubby checker saying about the twist same it's what it was right yeah 1962 they sang about the dance they were doing all right guys we're still just warming up here. So you've heard Monster Mash, the original, went to number one. Then you heard Monsters Holiday, which is a Christmas version. Then you heard the rap edit, which they are. Let me turn it up for a moment. That keyboard is killing me.
Starting point is 00:35:46 What's this one called? It's called Monster Rap. I can't compete. Cause I got to rap with a monster beat. You see, North, West, and South. It's called Monster Rap. It's Monster Rap. When I party rap, I control the room. Grandmaster Flash is turning into a grave. That sounds like, um, what's his name? Tone Loke. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Does that sound a little bit like Tone Loke? A little bit. Oh, I thought it was, uh, Wolfman Jack doing that rap thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so we'll let that fade down. I'm going to play something that'll blow your minds here. I want to shout out the background singers for that original Monster Mash because this is a mind blow, I think, of sorts. You know, I like to blow minds.
Starting point is 00:36:16 But the backup singers for Monster Mash are the Blossoms. Do you know who's in the Blossoms? Nope. Nope, sir. Darlene Love. Oh, wow. Wow. That that's amazing music yeah which makes sense for the christmas version but so darlene love can be heard in monster mash and here is another version from bobby boris pickett we were hiking in the forest late one night, when our eyes beheld an eerie sight, our president appeared and began to frown.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Then he and his friends cut the forest down. They did the forest slash. It was brutally brash. Public opinion was mashed. And they did it for the cash. The lobbyists were having fun. Very political. And this is about
Starting point is 00:37:12 George W. Bush and his environmental policies which were lacking. So what do you think? This is called Monster Slash. X-Day on that one. I'd prefer to hear Nash the Slash. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah. Well, he shows up. There's a guy who does murals in Toronto, and he always hides a Nash the Slash in his murals. Really? He just unveiled a new one. Wow. So you can go,
Starting point is 00:37:34 and I got to find out geographically exactly where these are, but you can go to these and try to find Nash the Slash. That's cool. Isn't that cool? Like his logo or like the- No, him.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Like a silhouette or him. He's in the murals that this artist is doing. It's very cool. I got one more for you guys, okay? Oh, no. So you just heard Monsters. Jesus, man. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:51 One more. I know. I just think it's wild. He took a song. It went to number one. And he dined on it until he died. Wow. Here you go.
Starting point is 00:38:08 We were hiking past the White House late one night When our eyes beheld an eerie sight The privilege appeared with folks very strange The zombies and vampires of global climate change It's not still environmental Still warming, say oil company disciples Power math tells us it's natural weather cycles. These claims from industry heavies let the president rest behind his own protective levies. They're doing the climate mash.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Oh no. Wow. Real science is bad. The climate mash. Solutions are prime. The climate mash. And they do it for the cash. anyways, this is called the elected ones. I would say they're late 2000s. But anyways, this is called the Climate
Starting point is 00:39:08 Mash. It's about climate change and there were some deniers that upset Bobby Boris Pickett. But isn't that wild? We heard four different remakes of his Monster Mash by Bobby Boris Pickett. This makes me want to do
Starting point is 00:39:25 the he did the 407-7 mash! Like, it's just like an homage to mash. Do radio stations ever do parody songs anymore, Bob? Yep, yeah. Not as many as they used to.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But this was a big thing. We hear like Jesse and Gene would have this. Oh, Humble and Fred used to do a tone with Scary pete yeah i mean obviously and uh freddy you know did voiced a whole bunch of them so wow um snow removal machine no removal machine fly uh bandwagon sitta uh the version of harvey dangers of course oh wow harvey rob do you know that uh bob willett is probably the biggest uh harvey Danger fan you'll ever meet? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, I might be the only one. The only one? Yeah, well, to everybody else, Fly Full Sitta is a one-hit wonder. That's right. I remember that. Yeah, that album to me that came out in 97 is actually one of my favorite albums of all time from beginning to end. It is just, it's a great piece of post Seattle pop grunge pre emo music. It's a, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:31 I could, I could tell you why it's just one and it's not available on any streaming service. What's the name of the album? It's called where have all the merrymakers gone? And it is, you could listen to it on YouTube. That's it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Okay. I think Bob's going to leave this toast episode and just go listen to that right now. I have the CD in my car and my car still has a CD player in it. What year is that automobile? 2015. Smart. I'm doing some quick math here. Not as old as I thought.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Not quite 10 years old. If you have a modern SUV or a new car, it might get stolen out of your driveway. I feel the solution is to yeah drive a shitbox that's my uh tip yeah there's no shitboxes anymore though i think i haven't told my theory that their shitboxes don't when we were kids there were always cars with like rusty doors and that's true but bob i only got rid of my shitbox in june 2020 during the pandemic 21 years old i drove nothing but
Starting point is 00:41:26 my first car cost me a thousand dollars like it was i drove nothing but shit boxes my first car cost me 200 cash nice 1985 ford escort wow so i want to just put a bow on the whole monster thank you for that thank you for that diversion okay so this is not bobby boris pickett but it's all about him i'm gonna play a little bit of this song, and then see if you guys can guess the artist. You ready? Listen to the lyrics. Listen to the lyrics.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Imagine Bobby Boris Pickett in a parking lot Sarasota, Florida The evening air is not too hot Pickett in a parking lot, Sarasota, Florida. The evening air is not too hot. It's Halloween night, 1992. Bobby Boris Pickett with a pickup band. We're hoping just to make a splash. But thinking not tonight as they all shake hands. And crank up the chords to the monster mash.
Starting point is 00:42:29 20 people and so glance up from their beers. As Bobby is introduced. And for the millionth time in 30 years. The monsters revived and let loose. years the monsters revived and let loose and they clap for the one hit wonder laugh at the tune they know and they dance and they sing to the song that they first heard so many years ago any guesses as to who wrote and performed this song called
Starting point is 00:43:08 One Hit Wonder all about Bobby Boris Pickett based on a true story? Who wants to go first? I was going to guess Barenaked Ladies only because it's vaguely Barenaked Ladies ish. But whose voice is that in Barenaked Ladies? Well, it sounds like Ed a little bit. Here's a clue. This gentleman, not only is this gentleman an fotm but his voice is heard
Starting point is 00:43:28 in the chorus for if i had a million dollars by bare naked ladies oh these are big fucking clues bob do you have a guess i have another guess well no because i was gonna go with like somebody like marcy plate round or something like i was something. I have a second choice. What's your guess, Rob? It's a little Moe Berg-ish as well. A little bit. Good guess, but Moe Berg not heard in the chorus. What do you say there, Bob? It's a little of our Ron.
Starting point is 00:43:58 It's a little Ron. It sounds a little bit like Ron. A little bit? Clearly it's somebody Canadian, isn't it? Ron is visiting in early November, by the way. It sounds a little bit like Clearly it's somebody Canadian, isn't it? Ron is visiting in early November, by the way. It sounds a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:07 like Ron to me, but is it a member of the trans, is it a member of the trans Canada highwayman? It is absolutely not a member, but that would be a member of
Starting point is 00:44:16 bare naked ladies because you're thinking Stephen Page, right? No, but okay. Yeah, you're right. Cause Moe Burr, it's not Moe Burr. If it's not Moe Burr.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's true. And it's, that's half of the Transcended Highway. Yeah. Does sound like a Queen West voice, though, that's for sure. The voice you hear, he wrote, he performed, and I have a note on additional detail here. Let me go to my notes. This is recorded in 2004,
Starting point is 00:44:42 about the later years of Bobby Pickett's musical career and his relationship with Monster Mash, which we've kind of explored here. We're about to get to accordion jams. This is Blair Packham. Oh, it is? Oh, Blair, that's amazing. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And Rob shared a stage with Blair Packham at TMLX... Wow. XX. X, TMLXX. Right. This is Blair, huh? That's really cool. There's a quality to the voices X. X, X, X, T-L-X-X. Right. Okay. This is Blair,
Starting point is 00:45:05 huh? That's really cool. There's a quality to the voices. That's so nice. Hey, well let them take us home and then we'll thank some partners and get to these accordion jams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 It's also got a bit of a, it's also got a great big seat. Yeah. So thank you, Blair Packham. I hope you're listening. I did let him know he was getting a big shout out. He's actually going to return to the basement to kick out. He says his first round of kick out the jams were like softer, more soulful songs. But he wants to kick out the harder songs that he loves.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Nice. So he's coming back to do that. And when he does come back, he will leave with a large lasagna from Palma Pasta. And I want to thank Palma Pasta. Bob, are you able to join us? I'm putting you on the spot here.
Starting point is 00:45:58 For TMLX, luckily no one can see your face. No, no, no. I'm grabbing my phone. I'm not looking at you either, but people would read your face. No, no, no. I'm grabbing my phone. I'm not looking at you either, but people would read your face. I know if you're lying. TMLX 14 is taking place December 9th at noon at Palma's Kitchen.
Starting point is 00:46:14 This is actually interesting. This is December 9th. It's a Saturday at noon. If you brought your daughters, they could eat for free because Palma Pasta will feed everyone who comes to T to tmlx 14 so i i could probably come uh you have children so i'll explain to you what saturdays look like
Starting point is 00:46:34 for us because saturdays are back-to-back dance classes and for the one and act in a three-hour acting class for the other so uh both all here in the East End and close by. But can you come? I think I can make it. I will put it on. It's at noon? It's at noon. Okay, done. I'm putting it in there. It's in my calendar already too. And okay, Great Lakes will make sure you, since all of you are over the age of 19, you get a fresh
Starting point is 00:46:57 can of Great Lakes beer as well. I'm a fan. But here's a question. How do you two feel about the fact that here we are recording Toast. It's the 21st episode of Toast. I think we established that, am I right, the first 11 were Stu and Cam,
Starting point is 00:47:12 and then now, am I right, that now we're at like all the rest of- Are we about to pass the OGs? Yeah. But how do you feel about the fact that Toast came out of Pandemic Fridays. We're actually going to have a Pandemic Friday reunion at TMLX14.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And that means we're going to, for the first time since last November, we're going to have Stew Stone and Cam Gordon together on the mic doing a Pandemic Friday thing, which has evolved into what we're doing right now. And I think it'd be awesome if somebody from the new Toast came on the mic to address the original toast. I will, as far as I can tell, I will be there. I would like to be there as well. Rob, what would keep you away? The borders?
Starting point is 00:47:54 No, no, nothing really. Like my scheduling with work that I'm doing with my wife at home is always like, we can always shift schedules around. And I've already got this in the calendar and we've sort of started talking about seeing if there's a way that I can make it happen. Because I'm always looking for an excuse and a reason to come back to see my family and be up here anyway, so. Love it so much.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Yep. Love it so much. Cliff Hacking is dropping by next week and he's going to kick out recycling jams. And I just remind everybody, recyclemyelectronics.ca is where you go. Remember that URL. And while you're going to websites, go to pumpkinsafterdark.com is where you go. Remember that URL. And while you're going to websites,
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Starting point is 00:48:55 So you got your marching orders. Yep. Bob, we're going to start with Rob Pruce. I will just preface this to say, I don't know if you felt this, Bob, because Rob is a musician, but my ears struggled to know when I'm hearing an accordion or not i found this actually very difficult yeah go ahead i i didn't but i also went with pretty pretty obvious ones so okay well rob yep do you want to say any words before we kick out your first accordion jam um well no this was the first one that came into my head though only because it was such an
Starting point is 00:49:27 unusual sound i knew it was an accordion in this song when i first heard it when i was a youngster and i remember thinking this is weird that there's an accordion all of a sudden in the song but it sort of it it sort of introduced me to the idea of like european music and it's like it's got accordion has like a french sound depending on the context sometimes you know and then in this i think if this is the one you're gonna play well it's the order you sent okay so it has this feeling when the accordion comes in with the little melody to me it's it's got some kind of a parisian thing to it so are you ready rob pruse to kick out the accordion jams take it it away, maestro. Hit it, maestro! You could talk up this opening because I see there's a very long opening here.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's a beautiful opening, though. You want to talk it up? Sure. It's just beautiful piano. Nice intro. Can you play this? Uh-huh. I learned it when I was 10. Of course he can play it. What am I gonna do Of course you can play it It's not that long Here we are What have I gotta do
Starting point is 00:50:34 To make you care What do I do When lightning strikes me And awake to find What do I do when lightning strikes me? And to wait to find that you're not there? What do I do to make you want me? What have I got to do to be heard? What do I say when it's all over?
Starting point is 00:51:21 Sorry seems to be the hardest word It's sad, so's sad so sad with the sad sad situation and it's getting more and more absurd It's sad so sad
Starting point is 00:51:42 why can't we talk it over Oh it seems to me So that's an accordion right there. Well done. Shout out to Basement Dweller, who's on the live stream, and he says, fantastic pick, and one of the best tunes on an underrated double album. Leslie also guessed this on the first note, of course, but what say you, Rob Pruce, about this Elton John classic? It's funny that I loved this song from the first time I heard it, and I never really had the album, which is weird because I only love the song.
Starting point is 00:52:46 And I was young enough. I was still buying a lot of 45s, not so many albums. I had a couple of Elton John albums, but I just loved this song on its own. And I had the sheet music. I learned to play the song, but I always thought of that accordion coming in there.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Like it's because it starts off with strings and it's just a beautiful arrangement. Do you know who's playing that accordion? Yes. So I Googled it, of course, to find the information. Well, I'd be so impressed if you knew it like off the top of your head. I didn't. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:53:10 But the world that opened up in my knowledge of who this guy is, his name is Carl Fortina. Okay. So spoiler alert. I'm also going to play a song with Carl Fortina on accordion. So mind blow, like this guy, turns out that he's played on like all these film scores and he's done, I'm not even gonna say the names of a lot of the things he's done because it might be one of your songs. You can do that because it'll be fun to call back and I won't take, no, I'll be like Amy. I'll hold my cards close to my chest. Okay. Okay. That's right. Don't,
Starting point is 00:53:36 I'm not gonna look in your eyes. He played on, no, no glass tiger. Um, he did the beach boys. God only knows as well. He did the themes for The Godfather, which is like iconic accordion shit, right? Um, he did, uh, like, like, um, TV shows. He was on TV shows, like as an accordionist and stuff as well, like on the Carol Burnett show and stuff. So he was like considered like in Hollywood. And as far as session musicians, he was a guy. So for Elton to have him on this record, I just think is super magical because it's,
Starting point is 00:54:04 it's just a tasteful moment. Was he like the go, was he goat was he like uh the the go-to accordion player if you wanted to throw a little accordion for sure because it was i mean i the more i learned about the days of session musicians working in new york and in la there was a small core group of people that made accordion player in the wrecking crew might have been him it probably was do you know what i mean like that's the thing did he play on any moby grape do you know what i mean like that's the thing did he play on any moby grape albums you know that episode was really interesting i enjoyed it it's one of my favorite episodes in a very long time and the little video of him playing guitar out in the front was beautiful super cool um but the fact that he played on uh god only knows means he was
Starting point is 00:54:38 in the wrecking crew right so i think that as a as a textural sound that would come in i'm brian wilson used him on this stuff and you know he did all kinds of stuff but um wow yeah I just love it it's a beautiful sound Bob what do you think of uh Rob's first choice I think it's terrific and he's just opened up my mind I kind of went quick to the first three things I thought of my three my three choices are all very similar genre or at least in the in their core but as soon as i heard that i was like oh and then i'm thinking and maybe i'm gonna you know now i'm thinking like billy joel scenes from an italian restaurant yeah right like there's so many songs and then um you mentioned french music and i
Starting point is 00:55:14 or italian music and i was like oh my gosh like levion rose like edith piaf right like all these things that didn't i went straight to celtic kind of so there's so much there's so much stuff that i didn't even think of thanks rob that's great i've seen edith piaf's grave shout out to ridley funeral home in paris i went to see jim morrison in the same graveyard yeah she's buried and it's uh also very well attended and memorialized yes yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean i have this great i loved cd compilations of random things, you know, and we have this one and you don't get them anymore because, but there's this cafe Paris CD, all this classic early forties, uh, French music, you know, kind of like the same era as the rat
Starting point is 00:55:59 pack, but in French and I I've, that's a, it's great to make brunch too. Like I just love it. And now that I think about it there's like so many songs on there that I could have picked for this that I love I didn't even think of it yeah got to open your mind there great start Rob thank you I'm glad you started with that one actually it's like it's I think you put that first on the list I did but I didn't know you were gonna start with me so oh wait no who do I normally start with I don't know okay my brain started last time I think I think it's rob bob and then i close oh yeah ah coffee's for closers only do you want to say do you want to say anything before your first
Starting point is 00:56:33 jam uh bobby uh no no because i'm uh except for going back to newfoundland um this particular when i you know this this particular song i've always been a fan of this band. I found it very interesting. You can go to George Street any day, any time, and there are live musicians doing music all the time, both Irish and Newfoundland and anything with a little bit of a Celtic vibe to it. And this one I heard a lot. And what I loved about it was when there's a full cover band doing like full full
Starting point is 00:57:05 stuff people still dance there like couples they get out and they dance like it's like you're at the legion on a friday night and uh this was one of the more popular songs uh that i heard and i've always loved this song and uh before i press play i played the song last week on toronto mike because the producer of this album was my guest and we talked in great detail about this band and this song. So let's kick it. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Jesus hangs behind the glass Above Venetian doors His window box boasts Crimson flowers fresh cut the day But before and you couldn't find a smile if you nailed it to his face Jesus Christ hangs his head
Starting point is 00:58:14 with grace and if Venice is singing I'm going on to love her cause beauty's religion And it's christened me with wonder There it is.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. Why can't I record? That's clearly an accordion. What's wrong with me? Bobby, talk to me about And If Venice Is Sinking. And If Venice Is Sinking is a single off of Faithlift. Of course, they kind of came And if Venice is sinking. And if Venice is sinking is, well,
Starting point is 00:58:45 I'll wait, is a single off of Faith Lift. Of course they, they kind of came, or 93, 91 was political, was their first big single, Spirit of the West.
Starting point is 00:58:55 John Mann, of course, we unfortunately lost him to Alzheimer's far too young. The song is about him and his wife doing their, having their honeymoon in Venice. And if you listen to the lyrics, you can really hear, it's actually about like a, a sculpture that's in the middle of the town and uh and if you've been to venice it really is as touristy as it is it still is a pretty magical city oh like no
Starting point is 00:59:14 other city in the world yeah getting lost in venice is like a rite of passage yeah yeah it's really amazing um it is uh um you know i've had the opportunity to see Spirit of the West a few different times. Saw them at the Horseshoe, saw them at Edenfest 96. Wow. Yes. Shout out to Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. Yes. And I also saw them open, not open, they did the Great Cup. Last time the Great Cup was at Skydome, I think. The 100th Great Cup, I think. They played outside with, actually, our friends, the Mahones. They were
Starting point is 00:59:48 there. And I want to let you know, I actually asked Katie Kaboom, formerly of the Mahones, who is the accordionist, to join me, to accompany me on this visit. Unfortunately, she works for Unifor
Starting point is 01:00:04 now, and she's in Detroit doing some major events. Yeah, but she can zoom in if you can zoom in. That's true. You know what? She was just a little too busy. She was very flattered to be asked because I really wanted to pick her brain about this. And I'm still waiting to kind of bring somebody on to surprise
Starting point is 01:00:20 you, Mike, but it hasn't happened. I've tried a couple times now. So I wanted to ask her about her favorite her favorite you know what how do you start the accordion when you are a woman who's like you know when in born and bred in East Toronto how do you end up playing the accordion of all things and uh how does she make the accordion look cool but uh this particular song is uh well obviously if you know Spirit of the West, you think of another song. I think most people our age, if you say Spirit of the West, they think of this song.
Starting point is 01:00:57 First featured, I think, really, it was already big, but when it was on those compilation CDs, the Frosh CDs. Right, right. You got it did you know i think of both songs together though like like yeah but i will tell you this spirit of the west never a hit never a single really actually home for arrest i mean home for rest but bobby you were at cfny at time. It was played regularly on 102.1, right? Yes, but it has never charted. It has never charted.
Starting point is 01:01:32 This is my mind blow for this one, that this song has never charted in Canada or in the world, and that their highest charting single of all time is And If Venice Is Sinking. It topped at number 30 on the Canadian charts, which is really crazy when you think about it. And their catalog is so amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:53 If you haven't seen it, Save This House, by the way, this album, the album Save This House that this is on, I have the vinyl and I can listen to that from beginning to end any day of the week. So it's a perfect album. It's terrific. Well, shameless plug for last week's episode of Toronto Mike with Michael Philip Voyavoda. Yeah. You know, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:02:12 When I say the name Voyavoda, I actually have to picture the spelling and like my brain will translate that the W is really a V and the J is like an H
Starting point is 01:02:20 or something. It's like you'd spell it, I would spell it like V-O-Y-A Voyavoda. Right, but it's a very Polish name. Let's like you'd spell it, I would spell it like V-O-Y-A, Voyavoda. Right, but it's a very Polish name, let's put it that way.
Starting point is 01:02:28 But he produced a lot of Spirit of the West, including Faith Lift. He's amazing. He's a real cool cat. Yeah, the conversation was great. He rode his motorcycle
Starting point is 01:02:35 over here. But yeah, this jam for our, for Gen X Canadians means drink more Great Lakes beer. That's right. A little of this.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Back in the early, the mid-90s, like, again, that Frosh CD really had it all, right? Like this, song two, just people losing their minds on the dance floor. Yeah. Bob, since we're closer in age than old man Pruse here, were you surprised when you first learned this was a West Coast band?
Starting point is 01:03:05 Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, of course. I mean, they are called Spirit of the West, but yes. I know. If you listen to Crash, it's funny. Just the other day, for some reason, I went on a bit of a jagged down old Crash Test dummies stuff from their first album. And God Shuffled His Feet? God Shuffled His Fe feet is the second album the first album with superman's dead on it is ghost that haunt me right um and they're from
Starting point is 01:03:31 winnipeg and the celtic influence on that album is crazy yeah so i mean you can get celtic influences all across canada yeah for sure i still remember being shocked shocked i tell you to her british columbia i said they're not a maritime or Newfoundland band. Yeah. They're not from Cape Breton. The West, my friend. I thought it was West Cape Breton.
Starting point is 01:03:51 That's what I just said. It was a, all right. Great choice. I love it when we can play some spirit of the West here and it's my turn now. So the first song I thought of when I thought of accordion jams is this song, which is kind of like, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 01:04:05 uh, some people say, Oh, it's too on the nose. Well, I say, give me the nose. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Let's, let's play what might be the accordion anthem here. Mama's got a squeeze box she wears on her chest And when Daddy comes home he never gets no rest Cause she's playing all night And the music's all right Mama's got a squeezebox Daddy never sleeps at night music music
Starting point is 01:04:50 music music music music music music music music music Cause she's playing all night And the music's all right
Starting point is 01:05:05 Mama's got a squeeze box That she never sleeps at night She goes in and out and in and out And in and out and in and out She's playing all night All right, guys, I got to confess. I don't think they're talking about an accordion in this song. I think I'm just catching on now. I think this is about sex. Let's just wait for the accordion.
Starting point is 01:05:42 You'll have to tell me when I hear it. You'll have to tell me when I hear it Just in the background Bob, do you know who's playing that accordion? I was just thinking about it, and no, I don't. Bob, do you know who's playing that accordion? Wait, there's a banjo in there, too. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. Well, the guess is, it's an obvious guess.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Carl Fortino. Pete Townshend is playing this. He's playing the accordion. That guy's a multi-talented freak. That's right. Squeezebox might be the go playing the accordion. That guy's a multi-talented freak. That's right. Squeeze Box might be the go-to accordion song.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Like, it's about a squeeze box, which is, like, another term for accordion. But as I listened to it in my late 40s, this is about sexual intercourse. I'm telling you right now.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Here's a, you know, Bob was bringing up, like, chart anomalies, you know and uh i would say a great chart anomaly is that the who internationally forget the u.s they never went to number one in the u.s but internationally the who of it only once gone to number one with a song in any country yep can you believe this and it happens to be our home in native land canada they went to number one with this song squeeze box in 1975 is that a mind blow or what i well 1975 was peak era for me as a kid you know wanting to be in a band and stuff so i remember loving this song didn't know much more about the who based on my
Starting point is 01:07:17 top 40 radio listening in years previous um because it's so it is sort of like out of their wheelhouse in a way right and there's not much accordion really in it like it's sort it is sort of like out of their wheelhouse in a way right and there's not much accordion really in it like it's got no there's not a lot of accordion but the accordion you do here in squeeze box is pete it's actually in those parts yeah love it not a big mind blow except i just thought it'd be fun to play an alternative version a cover just a little taste of this you love your unknown yeah love that. I want to know if you can name the band. It's Peter Tosh.
Starting point is 01:07:58 That's a good guess. Michael Franti is spearheading. Toots. Is it Toots? Is it Toots and the Maytals? And the Maytals. Covering Squeezebox. Just a little something to bridge us to. We did a spoon show once with Toots and the Maytals.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Tell me about that. How weird is that? That's why you're here, Rob. We opened for them in, it was a long time ago, in London at Western University. At like one of their pub night kind of things. And we were just doing whatever gigs we could get, you know? And we had just released our first album. And our manager was like, oh, we've got this gig in London. You're going to open for Toots and the Maytals.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And we're like, okay, cool. That's amazing. Weird combination, but it was fun. You know, Sam Roberts was here last week. I saw that. I got to drop these names. So Sammy, one of the questions that came in, actually, she was at the most recent FOTM.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Lauren sent in a question like she said i saw you at um western university or something like what's the craziest university concert of your he says western one yeah western was amazing is that your experience like nobody parties like the western student and we had friends uh gordon had had uh derrick had friends who were going to school at the time um and would just sleep in their dorm and stuff and it was amazing. It was crazy times. A great TV moment, this is according to 1236's own Mark Weisblatt,
Starting point is 01:09:12 a great TV moment was Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live. He introduced this band. Really? Yes. Yes. You can find that on, there's actually a Twitter account that is just all day. All they do is retweet.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Oh yeah. Celebrities introducing bands. That's right. That's amazing. Yes. And I saw that way. Boo fighters. You know,
Starting point is 01:09:35 like the story of Patrick Stewart. Right. But yeah, that's on there too. Yeah. That's cool. And before I pass the baton, Donovan,
Starting point is 01:09:43 now Donovan never had to pass the baton. It only got passed to him, remember. Is that true? Yeah, always the anchor. Okay. Always the anchor. Never had to pass that baton. But before I pass the baton to Rob Pruce,
Starting point is 01:09:54 just checking in on the live stream, Basement Dweller says there's an unheralded hair metal cover of Squeezebox from Roxy Blue. And Moose Grumpy reminds us in the old Toast days, Cam Gordon right now would be crapping on The Who. That was sort of how it rolled with the original Toast crew. You two don't crap on anybody. No, the good old days of crapping on people.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I don't know if this will play for the live stream, but it'll play on the recording. I'm going to play from Twitter. Standby. Hold on. I actually have to put a vote. Featuring Ben Harper and Jack Johnson.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Oh, geez. We'll let him go again. Hold on. Ladies and gentlemen, Toots and the Maytals featuring Ben Harper and Jack Johnson. So there you go. He didn't butcher it as much as I wanted him to. Johnson. Wish somebody would butcher that guy.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Okay. Okay. Rob, any words before your second jam? Nope. I love it. Okay. This band's been mentioned already in this episode. That's the teaser. Here we go. Tears in the morning
Starting point is 01:10:56 in the morning Ain't gonna tell me what to do Don't know those tears I know they're just a warning Reminding me I'm missing you So you moved out of your house
Starting point is 01:11:18 That's an accordion. Yeah, it is an accordion. I hear it. Very French, right? And you took your soul I hear it. Very? We're not together. A canceled future, well it's hard on me. Gone, gone, are you gone forever? Hope you love the baby, I'm never gonna see. And I've got tears in the morning
Starting point is 01:12:05 They ain't gonna tell me what to do No, no, those tears I know they're just a warning Reminding me I'm missing you Well, you know I lit a candle Listen to those strings. You're like the conductor, Rob. If you say bring it up, I bring it up, okay?
Starting point is 01:12:38 Me and Bobby Weiser. Yeah. That's right. Good callback. This man listens, everybody. Rob won't let me bring it down, Bob. Not yet. Not yet. guess i'll keep a hold rob won't let me bring it down bob not yet not yet i've got to feel now all that you see and i've got tears
Starting point is 01:13:11 i hear it back there i hear it i hear it rob pardon my ignorance. Do you know I Okay, the band is The Beach Boys. Yeah. Big fucking band. I don't know the song.
Starting point is 01:13:30 No, good. What album is this on? I'm telling you, it's not a lost era, but the late 60s into the 70s like prime era beautiful recordings
Starting point is 01:13:40 and songwriting. Who's singing on this band? So this is Bruce Johnson. Bruce Johnson wrote the song. He was in the band. He's still in the band now, I believe. The few guys that are left. The Mike Love version. Right. But Bruce
Starting point is 01:13:51 joined the band at some point into the era of the band, but he's just the most fantastic songwriter. Is this the era of Sail On Sailor? Yes. I love Sail On Sailor. 1970. This was the album Sunflower. And there's a couple of other fantastic songs, but it's the combination between Bruce making his contributions
Starting point is 01:14:08 and Brian doing his weird experimental stuff as well. Bruce also is the songwriter of I Write the Songs for Barry Manilow. Oh, wow. Does that sound better, by the way? Yeah. What did you do? I just changed my mic. Nice.
Starting point is 01:14:21 You had time to reset. It only took you, let me see how far into the recording are we. Okay. You're only an hour and 14 minutes into this episode. That's amazing though. So I have, all right. So I have a shitty fake SM58 that it does not work.
Starting point is 01:14:36 And then I have this classic SM58, you know, the kind of, kind of mic that the more you drop it, the better it sounds. And I found it. Nice. And on Bob's basement, he drops the mic off. Is that the better it sounds. And I found it. Nice. And on Bob's basement, he drops the mic off. Is that the song still playing
Starting point is 01:14:48 in the background? Yeah. I didn't realize it had that little tag. Yeah, Bruce Johnson is a genius. But the accordion in this song, again, it's Carl Fortino once again. Remember that name, everybody. There he is again. All your songs, all your jams are going to be Carl. They're actually not.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Spoiler alert. The other people playing on this song, of course, it's the Wrecking Crew 14 it's all your songs all your jams are gonna be carl they're actually not well my spoiler um the other people playing on this song of course it's it's the wrecking crew because it's still beach boys era how blaine who you've talked about before is on the drums we could do a whole you know if we kicked out our favorite how yeah we should do a toast episode with how blaine uh but the reason he comes up on this is the um rawnets that's right which ties back to beach boys of course because brian wil Wilson was obsessed with that song. Yeah, he wanted to sound like Phil Spector, really. Well, he wrote a song,
Starting point is 01:15:28 yeah, he wrote a, a Beach Boys song was written for the Ronettes and because Spector didn't have any writing credit on it, he poo-pooed it all because Spector was an asshole.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Crazy, yeah. Okay, we, this is, we could do a whole episode on this. Quick, unsolicited opinion from basement dwellers that that's, this is his favorite era
Starting point is 01:15:44 of Beach Boys. Oh yeah, for sure. And Bruce also wrote the great Disney Girls, which ties back to Bob Willett's recent trip with the family. Disney Girls is one of my favorite songs. And the first time I heard the song was actually recorded by the captain in Tennille, who connected to this song. Daryl Dragon, who is the captain, is playing vibraphones on that song as well on Tears in the Morning. He was a member of the Beach Boys, like the touring band at that point. So this was like one of his early contributions to the Beach Boys.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Have you ever heard the Grateful Dead at the Fillmore West with the Beach Boys in April 1971? No. Canada Kev highly recommends it. Ooh, okay, cool. Gotta check that out. Bob, do you know that Beach Boys song? Wait, Bob, are you there? I do. No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I'm not going to pretend that I'm there. Okay, I just want to make sure you're there. Why, now can you not hear me? Now we can, yeah. Yeah, this album, Sunflower, is amazing. Okay, sorry. Leslie points out all opinions are mislisted. There was a little lag there for a second.
Starting point is 01:16:38 That's okay. It's funny because it's better but not better in a way. Do you want me to go back to the old? You know why? You know what's different? What's different? It's deader. It's more muted. Oh, there not better in a way. Almost, do you want me to go back to the old? You know why? You know what's different? What's different? It's deader. It's,
Starting point is 01:16:47 it's more muted. Oh, there's less range. There's less room sound. Yeah. Okay. Or do you know what, Bob,
Starting point is 01:16:52 do you have noise cancellation on somewhere? Maybe just, and also maybe boost your volume like 15% or something. Sure, I can do that. No problem.
Starting point is 01:17:01 How's that? Is that better? Yeah. Do you have noise cancellation on or something? Cause it's like, you sound like you're like. Well, Zoom does that. Oh yeah, you can turn it off. The top left, you got to hit that. No problem. How's that? Is that better? Yeah. Do you have noise cancellation on or something? Because it's like you sound like you're like... Well, Zoom does that. Oh, yeah. You can turn it off.
Starting point is 01:17:08 The top left, you got to hit that. That's right. In Zoom, it's called original sound for musicians. Maybe you've got high-def noise cancellation. So the top left of Zoom where it says original sound for musicians, if you hit that... That's not on my Zoom screen at all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I don't have that. Well But you're fine, honestly. We will proceed because you sound fine. If it's bothering you, I honestly just thought it would be better if I was on record. Rob's a musician, okay? Everything bothers him. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I love everything at the same time. Okay. Any more fun facts about that Beach Boys there? No. I would just recommend listening to the whole record, Sunflower. And there's another album before or right after that called Surf's Up,
Starting point is 01:17:46 which is great as well. An early jam kicking was done by the great Jim Van Horn from 1050 Chum and TSN fame. And he kicked out Sail on Sailor. And that is a song I remember as a kid, Sail on Sailor. And it kind of, once it gets stuck in your head, it bounces around in there for a long time. It is really an underappreciated Beach Boys jam. Yeah, for sure. Because it's not an era people go to. Bob, any words before your second jam? No. Is this better? I took all the processing off the microphone. I think you're fine.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah, you're fine. You're great. It's all your content that we're here for anyways. Oh, yeah. I apologize that I'm not there. Well, your kid got sick. No, let me think. No, this is a pretty obvious one for me. It came to mind right away. And it was mostly, I think most people know this from a movie trailer. Let's kick it! Thank you. I'm a sailor, hey, and I lost my leg
Starting point is 01:19:22 Climbing up the top sails, I lost my leg Home for a rest got me drinking, but now I'm really drinking. Wow. Way to go, Bobby. I'm ready to kick some fucking ass. That's right. Pruce, you looked at me a little funny there. I don't drinking. Wow. Way to go, Bobby. I'm ready to kick some fucking ass. Pruce, you looked at me a little funny there. Yeah, I don't really know that. Let's go. You don't know that song? No, not really. Oh, good. I'm not even shocked he doesn't know it. This would be a black hole
Starting point is 01:19:54 for the great Rob Pruce. Yeah, I like these kind of black holes in my life because I like discovering things, though. But do you ever listen to music that makes you want to just break stuff? Shout out to Fred Durst. Yeah. Yeah. Early. Yeah. Early Metallica. Okay. Talk to us,
Starting point is 01:20:07 Bob, about Dropkick Murphys. Dropkick Murphys, and I'm shipping up to Boston. And so they're out, they are, of course, out of Boston.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Kind of came to prominence in the late nineties, early two thousands. They toured a lot with bands like Mighty Mighty Boston and a couple other ones. I'm trying to look at these bands here that they... But here's the thing. Speaking of Katie Kaboom, our friends in the Mahones have opened for them.
Starting point is 01:20:40 This song is their biggest hit by far. It actually charted in a couple different countries but uh it's uh it was it was out for a few years my my brother-in-law is a huge fan of celtic punk cool so i've seen these guys with uh they did at echo beach they played with somebody else it was great just a it was just a nightmare of a show in loudness and craziness. They really have an underground following. A lot of university radio play,
Starting point is 01:21:12 but they can fill... If Dropkick Murphys came, they would fill history. For sure they would. I agree. Most people know this. It was featured in The Departed. The movie The Departed with Jack and Leo. Marky Mark's in that too, right?
Starting point is 01:21:30 Marky Mark is in that as well. And yeah, great movie. I need to Boston, which they wrote the music to, but they did not write the lyrics. Oh, is this time for the mind blow? Here's your mind blow. So the lines are from the same writer who wrote this song. This land is your land and this land is my land. From California to the New York Island from the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream waters.
Starting point is 01:22:11 This land was made for you and me. That's a mind blow, Bobby. That is my that's one of my favorite mind blows, actually, is that Woody Guthrie, the lyrics, check this out. They were taken from a fragment of paper that one of the band members, Ken Casey, found looking through Woody Guthrie's archives. Wow. So he took and he gave credit to Woody Guthrie. The lyricist is listed as Woody Guthrie on that song. And for me, that's just amazing that they did that.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I don't know the story of how Ken Casey got a hold of Woody Guthrie's archives. I don't know where that was, but he turned it into shipping up to Boston. Well, before we hear what Rob has to say about this, guess who's in town? Or at least maybe he's left town now, but guess who was in town last night? I know. It wasn't Woody Guthrie. Woody Guthrie was not here, but a guy inspired by Woody Guthrie was here. Bob Dylan played in Ossie Hall last night. It wasn't Woody Guthrie. Woody Guthrie was not here, but a guy inspired by Woody Guthrie
Starting point is 01:23:07 was here. Canada Kev says this is a winning mind blow and Ian Serbis loves the fact that Rob Proust does not know the Dropkick Murphy song. I know the band vaguely. Celtic punk is a really fun genre of music yeah there's a ton of bands out there um that and again a bunch of them are canadian you know uh i i love i love it i love listening to
Starting point is 01:23:35 my i have an indirect uh understanding of this music based on where i worked on this musical called once which was the music from glenn hansard falling slowly slowly right i love that and so when we were putting that together like in 2011, 2012, we were digging, we had accordion in the musical. Like we were arranging music for like a nine piece cast or 11 piece. But one of the instruments
Starting point is 01:23:56 featured in our orchestration was an accordion and trying to make an accordion work into these settings. And we were listening to bands like the Dubliners and Glenn's old band called The Frames from Ireland. I feel like at that point somebody had mentioned the Dropkick Murphys as well as like something that I should pay attention to so the name has always been around but it sounds so cool to me there's like they did a cover of a like an Irish standard like folk song called Fields of Afrony okay that I would throw on my playlist forever I just love the way they
Starting point is 01:24:23 punky Celtic eyes that Fields of Afrin. It's just, yeah, Dropkick Murphys. They're too punk as sort of as House of Pain is to rap, okay? You got your Boston Irish American guys paying tribute to the motherland there. Why aren't we kicking out any House of Pain today? All right. Is there a... Some of those songs,
Starting point is 01:24:46 I was a big, I'm confessing to you all, I was a big House of Pain guy and there were a couple of punky, harder, put on your shit kickers and some of this stuff on those, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Okay. Yes. Enough about Everlast. Everlast, that's my name. My unique rhyme style is my claim to fame. Okay. My turn,
Starting point is 01:25:03 actually no mind blows to this. I'm just going to kick it a song, and I think it might be cheesy that I'm kicking this out, but it is a song that the accordion is prominent in, and we'll talk more about it on the other side. Get those lighters going, guys. Ballad time.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Speaking of Austin. There goes my old girlfriend. There's another diamond ring. And all those eight-night promises. I guess they don't mean a thing. So, baby, what's the story? Did you find another man?
Starting point is 01:25:48 Is it easy to sleep in the bed that we made? When you don't look back, I guess the feeling's not to fade away I used to feel your fire, but now it's cold inside, and you're back on the street
Starting point is 01:26:07 like you didn't miss a beat tell me what it takes to let you go there's the accordion that's the accordion everybody tell me how it is that you can't sleep even now That's the accordion, everybody. Okay, more confession time, which is, I don't know if I was the right age. It hit me.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I was listening to a lot of Q107 and they played like every song on this album. This is from Pump. Yeah. And I owned Pump on CD. Did I have the cassette? I can't remember. Yeah, I guess it was CD. But bottom line is I played the hell out of Pump.
Starting point is 01:27:01 So that's how you remember the accordion came right to you. Well. You're like, there it is. Well, here's the thing. And I desperately searched the World Wide Web, Robbie, to find out who the hell's playing accordion. Is this Carl Fortina? It's uncredited. I couldn't find any confirmation of who's playing this.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Okay. But I did get a quote from Joe Perry. So this song is written by Stephen Tyler, Joe Perry, and Desmond Child. This is a power ballad off of Pump. It's called What It Takes by the rock band Aerosmith. And Joe Perry says that the accordion in this song gave it the flavor it needed. Otherwise, it would have just been nice chords and nice changes. So this song peaked at number nine on the Billboard Hot 100.
Starting point is 01:27:45 What say you, Robbie? Well, it's funny that within three seconds I was like, I think this is Aerosmith. Just by that drum sound because I mean, Pump was everywhere, right? So, you couldn't get away.
Starting point is 01:27:53 But I did not remember the accordion in this sound. It's beautiful. Bob? Yes, sir? This is the third single of the four singles released from the Critical and commercial smash Pump.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You want to take... I mean, in real time, I'm thinking back. So do you want to try to do it in order? Well, did I not kick out Angel? Was that off of Pump? No, that's a previous album. That's the one with Dude Looks Like a Lady, I think. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Well, is Pump... Pump is Jan Dude Looks Like a Lady, I think. That one. Oh, right. Well, is Pump... Pump is Janie's Got a Gun, right? Yeah, so Janie's Got a Gun is the second single from Pump released in late 1989. But the first single, because they started with a rock song and it was a huge hit. Yeah. Do you know what it is, Robbie?
Starting point is 01:28:41 Well, only because I just looked it up. Oh, well, don't cheat. I cheated. Totally cheated. I'm not going to say it. Okay, say it. I haven't cheated. No, I don Well, only because I just looked it up. Oh, well, don't cheat. I cheated. Totally cheated. I'm not going to say it. Okay, say it. I haven't cheated. No, I don't because Get a Grip was next.
Starting point is 01:28:49 I could name amazing, crazy clients. I'll give you a clue. Okay, but I'm going to ask a question, then you can give a clue. Bob, I have one question for you. Going down. Yes, dude. Loving an elevator.
Starting point is 01:29:02 That was going to be my clue as well. There you go. So, Loving an Elevator, Summer of 89. Lingerie. But very dude-ish, right? Very dude looks like a lady-ish, that song. Maybe it's the same song. Great opening single from the album.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Yes. And then Janie's Got a Gun was a great follow-up. I've seen Aerosmith twice, and they're amazing. Wow. Well, that's not true. I don't know if I've ever put an Aerosmith album on at home, but I have. I think I had Get a Grip on CD
Starting point is 01:29:31 and I would have had The Greatest Hits, I think, on CD as well before that. Yeah, I love Aerosmith. It's great. Tobias Vaughn wants to say it's not a great song. I don't necessarily agree with that. I sing along to this whenever I hear it. If I any find there's allusions to other songs
Starting point is 01:29:48 on the album, I think it's a cool jam. But Tobias Vaughn says it's not a great song, but it's a great pick for the topic. Basement Dweller thinks it might be John Webster playing accordion because he played keys on the Pump album. So there's a lead on that. And Canada Kev says this is
Starting point is 01:30:03 a country pop song. In his opinion, this song. Country pop song. You know what? It could pass as like one of those like mid-90s. Like a Boots or Hearts
Starting point is 01:30:11 type thing or whatever? Yeah. Okay. Oh, Steven Tyler too. They're on their farewell tour. Of course, he might have some legal troubles because they removed
Starting point is 01:30:19 a statute of limitation on some crimes he's admitted to in his book, okay? Shout out to ray don chong who came on toronto mic and accused mick jagger of the exact same crime so uh you know we'll see what happens but poor mick there but oh yeah there's a little tag at the end do you hear this in the mix here hold on here just a little tiny like a false bottom here okay and it ends up
Starting point is 01:30:43 roughly like a little violin just Just a little something there. Okay, what else can I tell you quickly about this song before we go to our final jams? Oh yeah, the final single. So, what it takes is the third single, February 1990.
Starting point is 01:30:55 The fourth and final single from Pump was The Other Side. Take me to the other side. Take me to the other side. I would have thought that was later. I actually thought
Starting point is 01:31:02 that would have been on Get a Grip, but I didn't know that was on Pump. There you go. There you go. So, shout out to Pump and Aerosmith. Well, I was just looking, because when I went to that page to see the singles,
Starting point is 01:31:13 I mean, in those days, you would squeeze the singles out of an album too, right? Which is nice, because Lovin' in an Elevator came out August 89. Other side, June 90. Yeah, you could get over a year. Well, you know who did that a lot? Remember Def Leppard, of course,
Starting point is 01:31:25 when they released, let's say, Hysteria. Right. I feel like I was hearing new hit singles from Hysteria like two and a half years after the album came out. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's a different era now. It's a different era. And that was also different
Starting point is 01:31:36 than what was happening 10 years earlier where you would release a couple of singles fairly close together within a year and then get another freaking album out. And to bring it back to Moby Grape, one of the great mistakes in the career it back to Moby Grape, one of the great mistakes in the career and management of Moby Grape, which is why when I was on Humble and Fred yesterday,
Starting point is 01:31:51 I just said, so these are three guys in their 60s. Humble, Fred, I think Bob's heard of these guys, and Dan Duran, okay? Three guys in their mid-60s. Have you guys ever heard of Moby Grape? 0 for 3, not having a clue, who is Moby Grape? Meanwhile for 3. Not knowing, not having a clue who is Moby Grape. Meanwhile, if you ask any rock critic who was around in 1967, they'll tell you that Moby Grape's self-titled debut
Starting point is 01:32:11 was one of the most influential in avant-garde releases or whatever. But they released four or five, I think it's four singles at the same time. Oh, wow. So they released... They just put them out. The only singles released from that critically acclaimed self-titled debut of Moby Grape were all just thrown out. Oh, wow. So they released... They just put them out. The only singles released from that critically acclaimed self-titled debut
Starting point is 01:32:27 of Moby Grape were all just thrown out like a strategy that completely backfired. And it's the opposite of what Aerosmith did for punk. That's right.
Starting point is 01:32:34 That's right. Interesting. I only knew them... And now people hardly put albums out at all. Yeah. And I only knew them in hindsight.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Like, you'd hear... I would hear the name Moby Grape, like, referring to the era of the sixties and the sound. And then I thought. Yeah, with Crosby, Stills and Max. Even Beach Boys are kind of in the mix there. But what's Neil Young's Buffalo Springfield.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yes, that's right. Right. I think of them in that kind of context where if you were there and you were really paying attention to all the music, you would know the doors in that scene too. That's a kind of. No, because they were on the radio though. I think, I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:02 the difference is sort of what's lasted over the years. So were Buffalo Springfield and so were Mamas and Pops. Okay. That's true. All right. Bob, will I? Oh, no, it's Rob Pruce's turn. Oh, sort of connected to your song there.
Starting point is 01:33:13 I call Robert Pruce. Like, we're hitting arrows. Two Roberts on this program gets me confused here. Want me to just kick it? Just kick it. Wow. Come on. Wow. Wow. Come on. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Wow. Yeah. There's the accordion. I hear it, yeah. Dancing with everything We were young and we were improving I'm kind of hijacking this. Do you know who the background singer is on this jam? It was the woman who sang with him on her... Okay, you talk to me and I'll go Google it. So this is Cherry Bomb from John Cougar Mellencamp. She was quite featured in all of his songs in this era.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Because this is like 1987 era John Camp Cougar Mellon Camp. She was quite featured in all of his songs in this era because this is like 1987 era John Camp Cougar Mellon. Right? And I feel like I was just thinking that this accordion probably inspired Aerosmith which came like
Starting point is 01:34:55 a couple years after this, right? Only a couple years. So what year is this? This is 87. Right. This was out in 87. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:00 There she is. Okay. Yeah, it's buried in the mix only because I can't use the physical fader because then I bring down Bob Lillette. That's right. It's all Bob's child's fault for getting sick on Toast Day. There you go.
Starting point is 01:35:19 The accordionist was a member of his band so it wasn't like a featured extra guy. It was somebody who was just with John all the time. And his name is John Casella. Crystal Taliaferro is the singer we hear on this song. Okay. Continue.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Yeah, so I just had this. Oh, that's it? You don't have any more notes for me? No, not really. This was just another song. Along with the Elton John song, this was the other song that immediately jumped in my mind. What's a song that I think of right off the top of my head that's it? You don't have any more notes for me? No, not really. This was just another song. Along with the Elton John song, this was the other song that immediately jumped in my mind. What's a song that I think of
Starting point is 01:35:48 right off the top of my head that's got a recording? It was a top 10 US Billboard Hot 100 hit. Peaking at number 8 on the charts. Bob, you and I, we remember this song was fucking everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. We've talked about this before, and Rob, you were part of it, but that mid-80s,
Starting point is 01:36:04 mid to late 80s pop scene was so diverse between you know prince madonna yeah and uh john cougar mellencamp and holland oats and bruce springsteen and uh tina turner all having these bob seger bob seger all rock and rock pop the the the lines were so blended then. It was amazing. It was a beautiful thing. And this guy was a big part of it. Yep. You know, Jack and Diane and Hurt So Good
Starting point is 01:36:29 were massive, massive hits. Oh, yeah. Pink Houses. Yep. Yeah. Some people think of him as like a... Go ahead, Bob.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Well, here in Toronto, I would just, you know, I would go back to Chum FM. Right? Chum FM was that station that played those... That's when they stopped playing their non-hits and
Starting point is 01:36:47 that really was the beginning of the end for 680 CFTR, I would say which was a true top 40 at that time and you know, and AM was dying so, you know, I think if you got an ad on 104.5 Chum FM with
Starting point is 01:37:03 Ross Davies running the station in the beginning of Roger, Rick and Marilyn, just to bring it back to radio because I'm selfish. That was huge. It was massive. And all those artists and these songs were being played. And on the Canadian side, it would have been Bryan Adams and Corey Hart and Glass Tiger and all that. And we were actually this. At this point, I was in Honeymoon Suite and we were recording our third album at this point.
Starting point is 01:37:26 And like, I was just, it was just occurring to me now, like this was, this came out in 87 just before we released our album Racing After Midnight and we had done the song
Starting point is 01:37:34 on the Lethal Weapon soundtrack and it's the same thing. Like this variety of sounds was just all, everything was merging together. It was such a great thing. I actually texted Mr. Rob Pruce. Sorry, just quickly. Sorry, I texted Mr. Rob Pruce.
Starting point is 01:37:48 I was near Prince Edward County getting on the Glenore Ferry. And I took a picture because the Honeymoon Suite wave babies video was recorded. I love that video. So I was on the ferry and they're on the ferry and they're at the sandbanks
Starting point is 01:38:04 and I asked if Rob was in that, and he was not. I apologize. Just before your exact timing. He's more of the lethal weapon guy, Rob Pruitt here. But I love that video because there's that fantasy, and again, inappropriate, shouldn't do it, but topless women on their stomachs where you take that cold pail of water and you pour it on their backs. That's right. Don't do this at home, kids. Not cool at all. But we thought it was cool in the 80s, on their backs. That's right. Don't do this at home, kids. Not cool at all. But we thought it was
Starting point is 01:38:25 cool in the 80s, right, Bob? That's right. What a wild west the 80s were. I can't believe it when I tell my kids stories. Okay. There is a song I'll play later. It's actually somebody in the live chat is demanding it and I have it now loaded up. That's why we heard a little weird sound for a moment there. I have a
Starting point is 01:38:41 fun fact for you. I just sent you a song too. You sent me a song too. I emailed you a song. Okay. So let me collect my thoughts here. I have a mind blow for everybody, courtesy of Basement Dweller. I think it's a song too fun fact for you you sent me a song too I emailed you a song so let me collect my thoughts here I have a mind blow for everybody courtesy of Basement Dweller I think it's a mind blow so I mentioned Crystal T is that voice you hear in Cherry Bomb
Starting point is 01:38:52 we heard a woman there she's also the voice you hear on you ready for this? Girl with a Problem from Northern Pikes really? wow process that
Starting point is 01:39:02 see Basement Dweller gets it gets it here Canada Kev says john mellenkamp fooled us all telling us he was a cougar not until later in his life did he reveal so this is a bit like buffy saint marie's we won't go too deep into this i have tom wilson on the show next week and i will have a deep dive i will have a well i won't do the whole episode on it because i need to talk junk house but i do want to have a serious adult conversation about, and I say this as a guy, have you heard more Buffy talk anywhere than you've heard on Toronto Mike?
Starting point is 01:39:31 I bring up Buffy St. Marie is a white American woman whose sole verifiable claim to being Indigenous is being adopted by Pia Pot First Nation as an adult. Like, doesn't matter if she's actually an American of European descent instead of what we've been told for the last, you know, since I learned about her, which is that she was born on a reserve in Saskatchewan in his indigenous descent.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Like, doesn't matter. Like, I know this is a big convo, so we don't have to dive into it now, but I've been noodling it all day. All week, really, when I heard this was coming. I did too. As soon as you started talking about it on the chat, I was like, oh, and I got very interested
Starting point is 01:40:20 in what was going to be happening. Because to me, and again, I need to talk to Tom about this, because Tom's almost the flip, right? The exact opposite, which is he lived his whole life thinking he was of European descent. Yeah. His words, I thought I was a big sweaty Irishman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:32 And then he finds out in his 50s, he's actually of indigenous descent. Wow. And he was adopted by an Irish-Canadian family. And now the question to me will always, of course, come down to like, what did Buffy know when? Yeah. Like, did Buffy intentionally mislead us into thinking she was of indigenous ancestry and born on a reserve in Saskatchewan, as I was always led to believe? Bob, these are heady, real adult conversations to have.
Starting point is 01:40:58 So I have a very good friend of mine who I went I went to high school, I went to school from junior kindergarten, um, all the way, um, uh, till high school. And she, uh, she and I are still,
Starting point is 01:41:09 uh, still good, still good friends. And she's actually been on Bob's basement. Her name is Jennifer Sylvester, and she's actually working on her doctorate in indigenous studies. And she is a part of the Anishinaabe nation. And she's,
Starting point is 01:41:19 uh, she, she's also, she'd been on Metro morning. She's as a, as a, as a, as a,
Starting point is 01:41:23 as a, she's an advocate for the indigenous community. And I always turn to her when it comes to this kind of thing, because I follow her Twitter account quite a bit. And, you know, the term pretendian is a common term out there. with Joseph Boyden, who he's a novelist, and he wrote a bunch of books that are supposed to be about First Nations culture, and it turns out he's not Indigenous. Does it matter? I think it does to them. I think it does. Now, I don't know what intentions matter,
Starting point is 01:42:00 but it is a heady, heady subject, man. That's for sure. It's a big one, but I think Tom is the perfect guy to have a little conversation about it with. For sure. Again, almost the exact opposite. So we basically live our whole lives thinking Tom Wilson, Canadian with parents of
Starting point is 01:42:16 Irish descent, and then Buffy St. Marie, indigenous woman. And she's Italian, right? So Buffy St. Is it the Santa Maria? So it is Santa Maria. So they anglicized it, if you will. I don't know if that's the right term for this, but after World War II, being Italian American was not a,
Starting point is 01:42:31 it's like when they renamed Berlin Kitchener. So they changed the name from Santa Maria to St. Marie to make it less Italian because of course they were the enemy in World War II. So what a fascinating time we live in to consider that she might not be indigenous. Yeah, and I mean, it's interesting that it comes out now. It's like a TV thing that's going to be on tonight or something.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It's on tonight, Fifth Estate. So you can tune in. This is good journalists of integrity who care about their craft and do their due diligence. And there are lawyers on this show that you know comb through everything before it makes it to air so these are very these are verified claims sure that are going to be presented on fifth estate tonight so does it matter well it i don't think it diminishes from anything she's done in any contributions she's made creatively
Starting point is 01:43:20 for 50 60 years i don't think that this takes away from anything about her. It does seem like, you know, she came up in an era where people wanted to reinvent themselves and the world did not exist at the touch of a keyboard on a screen, right? We have all the information in the world in our hands right now. You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain. Yeah, really. And this doesn't make her a villain either
Starting point is 01:43:45 because I don't, like I said, I don't think this takes away. It depends. Well, that's where intentions, I think, that's where intentions matter. Bob's right. What did you know when and did you intentionally, you know,
Starting point is 01:43:55 this came up with much less important topic, but the Barenaked Lady's TV debut, right? Yeah, I know, you're right. Where it's like, print the legend. Totally. They made their debut on Speaker's Corner. It's like, well, the fact is they made their debut on ytv like and then you'll have people say you know just print the legend which comes from the man who shot liberty valance which is by the
Starting point is 01:44:13 way great movie yeah the man who's a great song to the man but all big issue stuff and i will be speaking with uh a man who turns out he's a big sweaty Mohawk man. Is he coming down here? He's coming. Are you kidding me? Although Randy Backman didn't come down here, but I almost always make him come down here.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Now, unless you're Bob Lillette and then you can zoom in. That's right. I apologize. Hey, your kid is sick. Are you kidding me? I have four kids. No one understands that excuse
Starting point is 01:44:43 better than me. I'm just breaking your... I do appreciate it. It's not an excuse. I me. I'm just breaking your... I do appreciate it. It's not an excuse. I did want to be there. Oh, I did want... Are we moving on from the heavy discussion now? Yeah, because I'm going to have it with Tom Wilson next week.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Nice. I want his opinion on this. That's good. That's good. I meant to tell you, Mr. Rob Pruce, that Bill Wolitschka says hello. Oh, how's Bill? Bill's good. I was telling him that I do this podcast with you in Toronto, Mike, and he said to say hi, Mr. Rob Proust, that Bill Wolichka says hello. Oh, how's Bill? Bill's good. I was telling him that I do this podcast with you and Toronto Mike, and he said to say hi to you.
Starting point is 01:45:09 He did want me specifically to tell you one thing, that he used to try to wear his scarf like you wore your scarf, old brother, in the 80s. He really tried to emulate you. I don't know what I did. You wore your scarf a very certain way. Well, I had a scarf, like in one of our videos.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I think I had a big stupid scarf that I wore. That's probably what it was. And Lenny Kravitz stole it from you. That's right. It's fall. You got to wear your scarf.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I saw that. It's not fall. I'm in shorts. So Bob, you're not here. I'm in sandals and shorts. For sure. Absolutely. This is just a timestamp.
Starting point is 01:45:39 It's October 27th. Weird. I know. Isn't that fucked up? You know what? I'm the guy in shorts picking the kids up from school too. Like after this, I'm going for a bike
Starting point is 01:45:48 ride in shorts. Nice. It's like 22 out right now. It's unbelievable. Okay. So we each have let me do, so that is your final jam. You're done. Bob, any words before your final, you want me to kick out the climate change mash? I just said I was going to bring this for Rob to play.
Starting point is 01:46:06 This song? You want me to kick it? Wait, what are we looking at here? Oh, I have to change. Okay. So Bob, no one can see you. Bob's got a little accordion. I was going to bring this to see if Rob could have some fun. I got a little kid's squeeze box. I got a question as we kick out our final jams here. No one kicked out Weird Al Yankovic?
Starting point is 01:46:21 Nope. How come? Nope, nope. Hanson. Hanson? And this is a song that Canada Kev says he'll abandon us if we don't play it. So I'm just going to play a little bit of the Schmengi Brothers. Cabbage rolls. And coffee polka here. So this is for Canada Kev. Three, four.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Coffee. And now I'm thinking, I think there's a Ren and Stimpy song with accordion. My dad used to be on a German TV show in Hamilton called Einprosit, which was like the Lawrence Welk of Canada. It was filmed in Hamilton at the Germania Club
Starting point is 01:47:06 and it was all German music and there was this woman who played the accordion. There was two of them, like a violinist and accordionist called the Hanson Eaton Duo. Amazing. It sounded just like that. So I want to get to Bob's final jam.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Okay. Covered by a band that was in the basement just last week actually, but also it's October 27. I feel like it's a little early for this song, but it's a fucking great song. You ready? It's a great song.
Starting point is 01:47:29 It's not a carol. It's a great song. It's a great song. Right. It's like Die Hard. You can watch it any time of the year, even if it's a Christmas movie. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Merry Christmas everybody It was Christmas Eve And the drunk tank An old man said to me Won't see another one Cheers Robbie And I only sang a song And see another one Cheers Robbie! And then we sang a song The rare old mountain dew
Starting point is 01:48:13 I turned my face away And dreamed about you Got on the lucky one Came in late into one I've got a feeling It's years from making you So happy Christmas I love you baby
Starting point is 01:48:45 I can see a better time When all our dreams come true There it is. You were handsome You were pretty great Off New York City When the band finished playing They held out for more Sinatra was swinging On the drum flame We're singing We kissed on the corner Then danced through the night
Starting point is 01:49:31 The boys of the N-1 Pini Coel Were singing Go away, babe And the bells were ringing On Christmas Day That's a tin whistle as well. Love that. Can't beat it. for Christmas Day. That's a tin whistle as well.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Love that. Can't beat it. You know, it is my favorite holiday treat. My favorite holiday song. Even if it's got an F slur in there, I take it all in context of the times in the persona. Go ahead, Bobby.
Starting point is 01:50:01 So yeah, Fairy Tale of New York by the Pogues. Their album, If I Should Ever Fall, Looking Grace With God. So yeah, Fairy Tale of New York by the Pogues. Their album, If I Should Ever Fall From Grace With God. This song, interestingly enough, was written because of a little bet between Shane McGowan and Elvis Costello.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Really? Elvis Costello was their group. Yeah, Elvis produced their early stuff. And he wrote it so Shane wrote this in 85 when Elvis challenged him, said the Pogues would never be able to write a Christmas song.
Starting point is 01:50:30 And this is what he and the co-writer, Jem Finer, who's the banjo player in the band, came up with. And obviously it is iconic. It enters the top 10 in the UK every year because they really love their charts over there. And of course, Kristen McCall on the other vocals. Just beautiful.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Gone far too soon. Just a great song. When I think of an accordion, these are literally the first three songs that came to my mind. I sent them to you almost right away. I had Dirty Old Town, the Pogues version, literally the first three songs that came to my house and i sent them to you that's great like almost right away yeah and bob i had already had mine done i just want you know i had dirty old
Starting point is 01:51:06 town the uh the pokes version on my list and when you brought this up i took it off my list you did so i could so again i now after sitting around with you guys talking and thinking about all the other places you could find accordion music besides celtic music I also, I will say that it's front of mind for me because my father-in-law is Irish. He's born in Dublin and they're a family of musicians. My sister-in-law plays the, plays the piano. My brother-in-law plays the guitar. Everybody plays something in that family. I play other people's music.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I can't play anything, but we do have a proper saint patrick's day party almost every year with like i could like it's a like with like woolly sweaters and banjos and a brand and um tin whistles and everything and one time my buddy adam robinson who's been on my podcast he's a head of he was the head of engineering for evanov radio he came to the party and uh decked out in all the kiss me i'm irish and like plastic hats and he was like head of engineering for Evanov Radio. He came to the party and decked out in all the Kiss Me I'm Irish and like plastic hats. And he was like, you didn't tell me that this is a real Irish party. Wow, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:52:11 He's like, I look like a gay leprechaun rapper. And he did, which really worked. We didn't make fun of him too much. But this particular song obviously evokes lots of great feelings, but there's really, and for me, you know, the last Mind Blow was pretty amazing. So, Jem Finer, again, has primarily been the banjo
Starting point is 01:52:30 player for the Pogues, but he's also a conceptual artist. And he did this thing, and it's still going, actually. In England, you can go find, you can go
Starting point is 01:52:45 find... Can you go hit that link? I'm going to hit it. I'm just going to let the people on the live stream know. They won't hear this. They might not hear that. Yes, but this will be in the podcast. If you hear silence on the live stream, go to the podcast. Here we go. We may have to turn it up. Okay, so stand by. We're going to
Starting point is 01:53:02 get this figured out here. So, Jem Finer... There it is. Okay, so stand by. We're going to get this figured out here. So, Jem Finer, there it is. He also plays Tibetan bowls. You know those bowls you make? Yeah. I have one of those in my house.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Do you really? He's got everything, Bobby. You make that sound. In 1999, he created something called Longplayer. And at midnight on December 31st, this art installation
Starting point is 01:53:34 started playing. And it is going to play for 1,000 years. And it is the composition of Longplayer results from the application of simple and precise rules. There are six short pieces of music, six sections from these pieces. One from each are playing simultaneously at all times.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Long player chooses and combines these sections. I'm reading it from the website in such a way that no combination can be repeated until 1000 years has passed. Oh, geez. Wow. So you can go. So this right now, what you're listening to is a live feed of long player. Come on. I can't wait to Google that.
Starting point is 01:54:14 Go back to this website. Okay. So it's icecast.spc.org. You have to go to the long player website. And then I actually, they want a donation. And I, you know, we're kind of stealing. You have to go to the World Player website. They want a donation. You're stealing this. We're kind of stealing it.
Starting point is 01:54:29 And what's the name of the guy who did this, Bob? Pardon me? What's the name of the guy who did this? Jem Finer. J-E-M-F-I-N-E-R. Wow. This sounds like something that would be connected to the... Have you heard of the Long Now Foundation, which Brian Eno was connected with?
Starting point is 01:54:42 It's a similar thing. Brian Eno started doing this thing about 20 years ago what there's a clock it's called like the world clock that that like goes for thousands of years and it's created to like like show the passage of time on earth like we think of our you know our human existence in 100 years or whatever but this kind of thing they look at the long term span and this sounds related to that. So yeah, so this is longplayer.org is where you want to go. So the co-writer of Fairy Tale of New York has created this
Starting point is 01:55:14 unbelievable piece of art. I was going to say, there's no accordion in this song. There is none. But the accordion was very well up front in the actual song. Sure was. I blew my own mind when I found this out. I was like well upfront in the actual song. Sure was. I blew my own mind when I found this out. I was like, this is a cool one.
Starting point is 01:55:30 My wife works for the Art Gallery of Ontario and I love conceptual art. Shout out to Jim Shedden. She's very good. Jim Shedden is a good friend of hers. Talked to him the other day. Yeah, he's a good guy. By the way, lots of stuff Talk to him the other day. Yeah, yeah. He's a good guy.
Starting point is 01:55:45 So there's lots of, by the way, lots of stuff going on at the AGO. But, so yeah, anything I've learned about art, I've learned through Diffusion, through her,
Starting point is 01:55:54 just by being around her and her many degrees and her knowledge. But this really blew me away. I thought it was something interesting. That's super cool. It's a good mind blow. Audio installations are always cool.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Oh, yeah. This is different. Okay, idea for future toast. We do it live at the Art Gallery of Ontario. Ooh. Silence from... I was going to say silence from East York, but he's in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:56:17 I'd have to talk to him. I know. I'm just spitballing here, Bob. That's what I do. I have ideas and some happen, some don't. Come out to Kingston. We'll do it in Kingston sometime. Can I bike there? Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:28 We'll get Paul and Robbie on. They're always around. Yeah. Robbie was on Hebsey on Sports when I was co-hosting, but Hebsey never let me get a question in. I'm still upset about it. That's my final
Starting point is 01:56:41 accordion jam. I could come up with easily another three yeah um because at first we were worried about what we could do i could now thinking about how the depth in which the accordion goes i could definitely do another three well that's the next month's topic more recording gems just kidding okay so we'll talk about next month's topic later uh i have one more jam to go yep bob it's been great having you even though it's remote next time you'll be in the studio but let me see that'll be a
Starting point is 01:57:06 November recording so we'll get that in before TMLX 14. I hope everyone listening joins us at Palma's Kitchen on December 9th. That's a Saturday at
Starting point is 01:57:16 noon for a Pandemic Friday reunion. I think it'll be a mind blow when we have the Pandemic Friday guys and I bring on a Rob and a Bob and I'm like that's a coin of ants
Starting point is 01:57:25 coming in to see Bo and Luke. It's going to be a great moment for me. But we've talked about this song. We've talked about this band. We've talked about this accordion player. Here is what I deem to be the greatest song in the English language to include the accordion. That's high praise, but here we go i may not always love you but long as there are stars above you, you never need to doubt it.
Starting point is 01:58:12 I'll make you so sure about it. God only knows what I'd be without you. without you If you should ever leave me Well I would still go on believe me The world could show nothing to me So what good would
Starting point is 01:58:39 living do me God only knows what I'd be without you If you should ever leave me The light would still go on, believe me There's a nice flute. I like it. God only knows what I'd be without you God only knows what I'd be without you God only knows what I'd be without you
Starting point is 01:59:56 God only knows what I'd be without you God only knows what I'd be without you God only knows what I need without you. God only knows what I need without you. God only knows what I need without you. God only knows what I need without you. What a piece of art this is, gentlemen. Holy moly. Great way to end.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Oh my God. And I got some mind blows just to tap things off here. Accordion fills in that song by the aforementioned self-proclaimed most recorded accordionist in the world, Carl Fortina. Amazing. Wow. And he's appeared on a bunch of... We heard him on Tears in the Morning by
Starting point is 02:00:49 the Beach Boys. That, of course, is God Only Knows by the Beach Boys from their 1966 album, Pet Sounds. You might have heard of Pet Sounds. If you haven't listened to Pet Sounds in its entirety, do so today. That's your homework. But you might know a jam
Starting point is 02:01:05 called wouldn't it be nice and that also includes carl fortina on accordion according to carl according accordion to carl i like that accordion to carl brian wilson says every time you play, my records go gold. You're my good luck charm. Wow. Okay. So what more can I say? I have a few mind blows here. That is a song that it's been suggested in a book.
Starting point is 02:01:38 There's a quote from Brian Wilson. So Brian Wilson wrote that song. It all comes back to the Barenaked Ladies. What's the best song written by Stephen Page? Well, if I was lying in bed, I could give you the answer. There you go. You agree, right, Bobby? That's the best song that man's ever written.
Starting point is 02:01:55 You know what? My opinion. My opinion. I, you know what? I'm a huge Stephen Page fan. I love a lot. I really do like What a Good Boy. More than Brian Wilson. I think so.
Starting point is 02:02:08 And Break My Heart off of Born on a Pirate Ship. I like it when he goes deep and gets even darker than Brian Wilson. I love Brian Wilson. He's got a lot of good songs. I'm a huge Barenaked Ladies fan. I have to admit, just pre
Starting point is 02:02:23 Stephen leaving. I don't really know much of their music after, but yeah, it's top three for sure for me, of Steven Page writing songs. So, when Brian Wilson wrote his memoirs in 1991, he said the melody for God Only Knows came from a John Sebastian
Starting point is 02:02:40 song that he had been listening to. So he didn't name the song, but biographer Mark Dillon did more research, a deeper dive and has decided this is the song from the love and spoonful that Brian Wilson was listening to when he was inspired to write God only knows. So here's your first in a series of mind blows. I have a couple,
Starting point is 02:03:02 here's one right here. We even have to be so nice I wonder about you everywhere If you had just looked once or twice And gone upon your white dress You'd be so out of my life For me to follow you So how am I allowed to be the flower here? I know I try, but I'm not there. You came upon me like a bird.
Starting point is 02:04:00 You sent me singing to your place. This is You Didn't Have to Be So Nice by The Love and Spoonful. John Sebastian wrote this song inspiring Brian Wilson to write God Only Knows. There's a singer-songwriter. I don't know if you guys have heard this guy before. He's a little underground. Have you heard the name? Be honest, guys.
Starting point is 02:04:21 Have you heard the name Paul McCartney before? Sounds familiar. Have you heard this name bob roulette well you know here and there he did a song with um not the weekend uh um kanye west kanye yeah he did a song with kanye right now where are you going yeah yeah his last top 40 hit i believe yeah yeah so and uh rihanna's on that too right that's right that's that was a good jam so that'll be a future i think we'll do a future toast which is like last hurrahs for Legacy Acts. Totally.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Okay, that's an idea I have. It's interesting to hear this. I want to ask Rob a question. It's interesting to hear this connected to God Only Knows, because you can hear how it would be an inspirational sort of groove. Yeah, apparently how the melody of the voice is. So I'm going to let Bob interject here of a question, and then I'm going to tell you why I brought up Paul McCartney.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Go ahead, Bob. As a non-musician, I think we get caught up in tempo, and we don't hear the similarities. Rob, did you kind of catch it right away? I think tempo gets in the way, but did you get the feel right away? With this song? Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 02:05:19 I mean, yeah, it's not really the tempo. It's not just the tempo. The tempo gets in the way of us hearing it. It's something about the groove of the music around the melody. And it definitely, it's not like a direct steal
Starting point is 02:05:31 or anything. No, no, no. But it's like totally inspirational for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's inspired by something, including the Beatles. So Paul McCartney
Starting point is 02:05:38 has gone on the record to say, God only knows by the Beach Boys is, you ready for the quote? The greatest song ever written. Wow. Forget accordion jams here.
Starting point is 02:05:48 So Paul McCartney, one of the greatest songwriters of all time in the English language, modern history anyways, he says that God Only Knows is the greatest song ever written and that that song inspired, in part, a Beatles song. I'm going to play a Beatles song that was inspired by God Only Knows. Are you guys ready to hear this? Yeah. To lead a better life I need my love to be here
Starting point is 02:06:17 Here Making each day of the year Changing my life with a wave of time It's in the vocals, it's in the harmonies. Yeah, I think it's all the harmonies, right? You can hear this as like a beach voice. Yep. Inspired song.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Playing Running my hands through red hair Like a beach voice. Yep. Inspired song. I think it's wild how the beat, But she doesn't know he's there. I want her everywhere. I think it's wild how the Beatles and Beach Boys keep going back and forth, inspiring. Like, Sgt. Pepper's leads to smile and then, oh, sorry, not the smile, pet sounds. Yeah. Okay. And then pet sounds inspires the Beatles.
Starting point is 02:07:23 But I think it was that pet sounds led to Sgt. Pepper. Right. Okay. Sorry. Yeah. You know, yeah, you're right. Pet Sounds, they were in California hanging out
Starting point is 02:07:28 and then they hear Pet Sounds and then they go home and make Sgt. Pepper but there was this back and forth mutual respect though and yeah, this song is
Starting point is 02:07:36 here, there and everywhere. Amazing. Beautiful. There's some interesting variations of God Only Knows.
Starting point is 02:07:45 If you look at the pet sounds, the box set, and all the outtakes and stuff, there's versions of, because that's Brian's brother, Carl Wilson, singing the lead vocal in that song. I'm glad you brought up Carl. Keep going. And there's versions where Brian was trying to sing it. And you can see why he decided to forego the lead for his brother, because Carl's got a smoother voice
Starting point is 02:08:05 you want one more mind blow yes before we do mop up and uh say goodbye to everybody here okay so brian wilson wanted god only knows to be a solo record by carl wilson wow wow according to carl wilson good vibrations was supposed to be the next, but it didn't turn out the way, believe it or not, one of the greatest songs of all time, didn't turn out the way Brian wanted. Brian, of course, creative genius, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So they needed another release, and they took God Only Knows and just put it out as a Beach Boys single.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Wow. But it was intended to be a Carl Wilson solo track. Wow. Is that a mind blow, Bobby? Amazing. Absolutely. You know, being completely honest,
Starting point is 02:08:48 I can still remember like in the 90s and I grew up in a household where there was no Beach Boys music. My dad loved Queen and Elton John. My mom loved country music
Starting point is 02:09:00 and weird things like Carol Pope and the Mon drugs in my pocket. You know, my mom was like either punk rock or, or country. My dad was all pop,
Starting point is 02:09:10 pure pop. But for some reason there was no beach boys in my house, but I can still remember seeing spin magazine and Rolling Stone magazine when they always do their top albums of all time. And Pet Sounds was always, if not one in the top three. Right. And I think it took me a long time to finally get it.
Starting point is 02:09:25 And I have it on vinyl now. And when I finally sat and listened to it, as an adult years later, I'm like, oh, okay, now I get it. Yeah, you get it in context. This is amazing. Yep, for sure. I remember seeing Beach Boys when I was a kid.
Starting point is 02:09:36 I would read this magazine. It was a rock magazine called Circus Magazine. Yeah. And always on the cover was Aerosmith and Queen and Kiss and all this stuff. And every once in a while, they'd mention the Beach Boys on the road. And I was like, what is the Beach Boys?
Starting point is 02:09:47 They're like a 60s band. It seems so weird to me. And the same thing, many years later. Right, Kokomo for Bob and I. That's right. Oh, geez. Man, I know. That's a cocktail soundtrack, right?
Starting point is 02:09:57 Right. Big soundtrack. So here's a cool thing about Carl Wilson as well. This was a mind blow for me in the last 20 years, I would say. When I was a kid and I loved this Elton John song called Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me. Of course. And if you listen to that. Also George Michael duet that had a resurgence.
Starting point is 02:10:13 That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, Elton John. There he is. But the original version, if you listen to it, Carl is singing background vocals and all the high harmonies. It's Carl Wilson and Tony Tennille from Captain and Tennille. And once I learned that it was Carl and I went back and listened, it totally sounds like the Beach Boys.
Starting point is 02:10:29 And it freaked me out the first time I listened, knowing that it was Carl, because you hear the sound of God only knows. Isn't Toast fun, Rob? And then Bob will be back with us in person. We'll have to pick a date and time that you can get Rob Pruess in the studio. But guys,
Starting point is 02:10:42 I got to say, I love Coy and Vance on Toast. Love it. Love it. Here we are. He's the studio. But guys, I got to say, I love Koy and Dance on Toast. Love it. Love it. Here we are. He's the expert. I mean, my God. We bring stuff up with Rob and
Starting point is 02:10:52 it's like, oh, yeah, I played with them. I opened for them. No, no, no. But I'm learning music from you guys, too, though. Like the eras are like the combination of it all is so good.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Remember, Mama's got a squeeze box and Daddy doesn't sleep at night. That's right. I don't think that's about accordion. I'm telling you, when you hear it, you'll know what box and daddy doesn't sleep at night. That's right. I don't think that's about accordion. I'm telling you, when you hear it, you'll know what I mean. I was playing all night.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Bob, thanks for joining us remotely. I'm glad we could get you on and I hope your kid feels better. Yes, please. Yeah, thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate your understanding. Always fun. I love doing this.
Starting point is 02:11:21 And yeah. Well, they won't let you on the air, right? It's a union thing. You're not allowed on on the air right? It's a union thing. You're not allowed on the air right? It's just it's complicated. It's complicated.
Starting point is 02:11:30 That's your Facebook status and it's complicated. Rob Pruce. Yes. You always bring it. You might be a little too nice but we'll talk
Starting point is 02:11:37 about that off mic here. I want you to be a bit more of a dick just to keep things you know a little more Stu Stone asshole. I can't wait to meet Stu. That's going to happen. Everybody should come to TMLX just so we can even of a dick just to keep things you know a little more stew stone ass i can't wait to meet stew
Starting point is 02:11:45 that's gonna happen everybody should come to tmlx just so we can even witness rob meeting stew i want to see how you two gel i mean we were at the last one but we didn't actually meet for some reason yep we're gonna make it happen on the mic at tmlx 14 and that brings us to the end of our 1,350 second show. I'm on Twitter and blue sky. Now I'm on both. Now as Toronto threads, I'm on it, but I'm not actively working it like,
Starting point is 02:12:15 cause I don't quite like it, but I am on blue sky. That's enough for you. You'll find me. Okay. If you want to find me, you'll find me. Rob is at Rob Pruse X at the end.
Starting point is 02:12:23 Yep. Bob is at BobWillette. Willette rhymes with Gillette. It's spelled like Gillette, but with a W. Right. And much love to those who made this possible. That is Great Lakes Brewery. How was your beer, Robby?
Starting point is 02:12:39 Fantastic. Pale ale. Yep. I love my, I got to say, I love my Octopus Wants to Fight, but I forget because I've been drinking Sunnyside Pale Ale all summer and then I have a can of Sunnyside
Starting point is 02:12:49 and I feel nice, like just normal really. And then the Octopus Wants to Fight, it's like you have a couple of these and it's like, oh, there's more alcohol in the Octopus
Starting point is 02:12:57 than in the Sunnyside. It's completely, I think it's more than twice as much or something. It's like, okay, you gotta be careful. Great Lakes Brewery,
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Starting point is 02:13:22 we recorded a new episode yesterday about Halloween. It's very charming. Rob, I know you like Life's Undertaking with Brad Jones. I love it. Listen to that. My next episode is actually tomorrow because there's a gentleman who is a co-producer, co-writer.
Starting point is 02:13:35 He was involved with my definition of a boombastic jazz style by the Dream Warriors. His name is Richard Rodwell, and he's going to visit me tomorrow morning. So I'll see you all then. Nice. Maybe I'm not and maybe I am
Starting point is 02:14:07 but who gives a damn because everything is coming up rosy and gray yeah the wind is cold but the smell of snow

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