Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST23 Jibberish Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1399

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

In this 23rd episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out jibberish jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Electronic Products Recycling Association, Raymond James Canada and Moneris. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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An award-winning podcast for Moneris. Hosted by FOTM, Al Grego. And Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning for the 23rd episode of Toast is Rob Pruce. Good morning. And Bob Ouellette. Good morning.

Okay, why are we recording at 9.30 a.m. on this Wednesday, December 27th? Let's start with you, Bob Ouellette. Well, we had discussed doing something between Christmas and New Year's the last time we got together, and we had settled on tomorrow evening or tomorrow with no time. I was flexible.

Yeah, and that was all good to me. However, something has come up in my life that has just made it, uh, impossible for me to do it tomorrow. A very good friend of mine is actually going through a divorce. It's quite hard. And he's, uh, he's been through several, he's rented the, uh, he's rented the truck. And, uh, so we're going to, uh, empty the house tomorrow and it's going to be an emotional

day. And I didn't want to, is it his first divorce? Yes. Oh, you never forget your first. Yeah, you never forget your first. That's right. And there's, you know, there's three. You'll find out soon.

There's three kids involved. Oh, I know. My wife's going to leave me anytime now. Anyhow. So, and then after that, like, I'm leaving. It's the morning. I'm going to see the, I'm actually driving to Detroit on Friday morning. And I'm going to see the Raptors this weekend in Detroit.

My condolences. Yeah. So they're not fun. But you know what? The Detroit Pistons are even worse. They just lost their 27th in a row. I saw that. That's wild. It's going to go see the Raptors this weekend in Detroit. My condolences. Yeah, so they're not fun. But you know what? The Detroit Pistons are even worse. They just lost their 27th in a row. I saw that. That's wild.

It's amazing. Anyway, so gentlemen, allow me to publicly apologize for changing and making it at 930. I'm glad we could do it at all. I am glad we could do it at all as well. I'm going to look at Rob Pruitt now. It'll all be off mic a bit. Just to say that that means Bob is a good friend. Yeah.

And I support friendship. Yeah, I do too. I'm pro friendship. And I'm happy to just be able to make it work. So I think Bob made the right call. Yep. Now, let me tell you about numbers, numerology. Do you guys big on numerology?

Okay, so the way that I just let things fall naturally. I didn't want to force anything for 1,400. Like 1,400 is like a nice round number, but like whatever. Okay. So if everything just happened as it was scheduled, thing for 1400. 1400 is a nice round number, but whatever. Okay. So, if everything just happened as it was scheduled, you guys were going to be episode 1400. This would be 1400.

What a big milestone number. But then, when I found out Bob and his buddy and the divorce, and then we flipped things, I reached out to Mohit, who's kicking out the jams. He was going to kick out the jams today at 11 a.m., which is a more reasonable time, I think. Yes, yes.

We basically, they did a trade. So Mohit will kick out the jams tomorrow at 11, and you guys are here now. I'm glad to have you here, but we're now $13.99, and Mohit gets $14.00.

I think that's psychologically a cool number, though, because think about stores, the psychology of pricing shit. $13.99. $13.99 sounds like a better deal than $14. Speaking of stores

for those who don't look at the photos that we attach to all of our episodes and why the hell wouldn't you? Come on. What sweatshirt are you wearing? What hoodie are you wearing there Rob? Today it's consumers distributing. That's great. We're the lowest prices a lot. No that's No that was Zellers. I will tell you

we had one on Dundas like between Jane and Runamid and that was my local consumers and all, I remember going through the catalog and circling

and then like 50-50 chance it was out of stock. Yes. I read some, on like some blog, they just posted an interesting thing about sort of the history

of consumers and apparently that's what did them in was that so often people would go to the store and what you wanted was not in stock yeah that sucks yeah i bought my very first sega genesis from a consumer distributing amazing yeah it was like 1990 91 i guess i was 14 or 15 years old i had saved my pennies and bought it at uh the consumers

distributing on car law where um there was a food city and a drug city. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, not a Boots? No Boots, no. Because the Boots was tied with the food cities. It was like an Oshawa food city. No, and then in the basement, what was in the basement?

Towers. Oh, yeah. So the common bundle was Towers, Boots, which became Pharma Plus, I think, but Towers, Boots, and Food City were like a bundle you had in a lot of Toronto. So we had that, but we called it Drug City for some reason. It was Drug City. But the mentality behind

consumers was really like what we have today, shopping online, where looking through a catalog was like the coolest thing because you're like, oh my God, I could have this thing that I'm looking at on this page. Now it just happens to be on a screen, but it's the same Amazon as like the new consumers distributing. Yeah, if the internet was like one like the new consumers distributing except everything is in stock. Yeah, if the internet

was like one big room in the back. Everything is in stock and no little pencils are needed. All those pencils. I remember thinking it was like the beer store,

right? Because your product came on the roller thing and it was like, oh, this is like when you see adults get beer and it comes in.

Yeah, that's right. It's very exciting. Okay, so I do also, I do remember I have a very nice memory of like buying a dual cassette thing and it had a. That's right. It's very exciting. Okay, so I do also, I do remember I have a very nice memory of like buying a dual cassette thing and it had a record player on the top and of course a radio

and it was like from Citizen. Yes. Nice. And I got that at the, my local consumers distributing and I remember buying like a clock radio and I think it was, the brand was Candle.

Do you remember? Remember Candle? Of course. Candle and Citizen. Candle and Citizen were my brand of choice. They're like adjacent to a realistic brand. Realistic was theirs. That was a realistic Radio Shack.

Yeah, it was only Radio Shack. Right, right. But Citizen was like the consumer's distributor. Okay, but I did pull a clip. Actually, I think a listener. I can't remember which listener. But somebody listened to the last episode of Toast and we talked about Rob's shirt.

Do you remember? When I went last time. Do you remember? Okay, I'll give you a clue. But then they sent me this audio, okay? You ready? Oh, yes. Hello. It's Patrick. He took out life insurance.

Good for you, son. At my age, it's probably too late for life insurance. Dad, the Millers are older than you. All of a sudden you can hear them. They've just been insured by Norwich Union. Really? But you couldn't hear. With my high blood pressure, I'm sure to be rejected. You must have to take a medical. No, you don't.

The Guaranteed Life Insurance Plan is designed especially for people over 50. Even if you were 75, you'd still be insured without a medical. We'll join Rob there. Let me take the number down. Guaranteed Life Insurance Plan from Norwich Union. Did he write all that? We know it's important to be insured for life Okay, so it's Patrick

He took out life insurance And now you're wearing consumer's distributor You're covering all the bases Who knows what's going to be next time Okay, lots of ground Firstly, how was your Christmases? Let's start with Bob I know you got a couple of little littles.

Yeah. I got a 13-year-old girl and an 18-year-old girl. It was lovely. We had a very... 18. I say 18. 13 and 8. Oh, my God.

Not yet. Jesus Christ. I was like, how did you catch up like that? No, no, no. 13 and 8. Five years difference. Feeling the five years difference, got to say. No, it's very good.

And here's the thing. I didn't really say why I had to be 9.30 this morning is because as soon as we're done here, I'm going home and then I'm taking, grab my family and we're driving to Richmond Hill for her family Christmas. So her extended family, you need to marry big fans, by the way, Uncle Phil and Jackie, they listen to the show. They love your podcast. They listen all the time. Uncle Phil, Uncle Phil listens to the show and Aunt Jackie because she's from Roseanne

and he's that's right. There you go. Uncle Phil and Aunt Jackie. That's right. Yeah, they listen all the time. And Aunt Jackie. Because she's from Roseanne and he's from Fresh Prince of Hawaii. There you go. Uncle Phil and Aunt Jackie. That's right. They listen all the time. They'll listen to this. Do they only listen to Bob Woodland episodes? No, they listen to all your episodes. They love the show. They're big fans of the show. I won't say anything negative. But I'm going to give you advice.

Close your ears, Aunt Jackie and Uncle Phil. Next marriage, marry a woman whose family is way out of town. Yeah. Richmond Hill, you can get there, no problem. First time I had, way out of town, White Rock, B.C. And now Edmonton, Alberta. There you go.

Richmond Hill is too close. So women who are lonely and have no family are the ones who marry you. Correct. That is correct, Bob. From Edmonton. Yeah, there you go. Okay, very good. Yeah, it was very nice.

Thank you very much. How was your Christmas, Rob Proust? Mine was great. Was it in Burlington or New York? Yes, it was in Burlington. So my wife is Jewish, so we celebrate Hanukkah as well for just a night like with her mom. And we have that part of it.

And then we get to come up to Canada for Christmas, which was great. We got up on the 23rd. Oh, nice. Yeah, it was nice. That would be a nice song, the Canada for Christmas. Exactly. You can write that song.

Okay. And yours? And yours, Mike? Yeah, how was yours? I forgot about it. I'm here too. Okay. No, it was great.

Yeah. I mean, Michelle arrived on the 22nd of December from McGill in Montreal. Nice. And yeah, we spent, we had a good Christmas. And then we watched this really nice movie that night which was uh starring uh paul giamatti and it's called the holdovers and it was like the i liked the uh the pacing very alexander payne is behind this i feel like bob would be a big alexander payne guy i don't know i get that vibe okay so a sideways do you remember sideways yeah

of course yeah so that's his, that's his genre. So this movie with Paul Giamatti, I really liked the pacing because it was like a slow burn, but I really got into the, the, the spirit of the thing and the music and it takes place

in the early seventies. And I'm just here to say, I loved it. It was like, I don't normally go for these movies that are like two plus hours. I'm like, I got two plus hours,

but I thoroughly enjoyed this film called The Holdovers. Excellent. That's Mike's movie review. So watch out, Richard Krauss. We watched a nice

holiday movie called Office Christmas Party. Oh, Monica's literally been watching that over the last few days. I've never seen it. It's one of my

sister's favorites. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious. Gather the kids around. It's crazy. It's really crazy. It was fun. Okay,

I know Jimmy Buckets is in that, right? Jimmy Butler? Maybe. I don't know. Does Rob know who Jimmy Butler is? No. I didn't think so. Okay, I know Jimmy Buckets is in that, right? Jimmy Butler? Maybe. Does Rob know who Jimmy Butler is? No. Oh, is he the basketball dude? He's a basketball dude. Yeah, that tall guy?

That tall guy, yeah. Those basketball guys are the tall guys. Not all, though. Jason Bateman is my favorite, though, and T.J. Miller. Oh, yeah, they're both. Oh, do you know who his father-in-law is? Yes, Paul Inka. Correct. T.J. Miller's father-in-law? No, Jason Babin. Jason Babin. Okay.

Since you were last here, Rob Pruess, I had Alan Frew on the program. I heard it. He's talking about, okay, you heard it, good. He's doing this whole 80s, 90s thing. I think, and I said this to him in real time, but I'm telling you now, you need to get in on this action. I know. Rob Pruess from Spoons. I got no connections. What do you mean you got no,

I'm your connection. I know. I could broker that deal. Alan Pruse, when you mentioned my... I was honored that you mentioned my name and he's like, oh yeah, Rob. But I don't think he really knows who I am. He sort of remembers the band a little bit, but you know. You think he's bullshitting me? No. Because I'll get... He's got good keyboard players already. If he fakes knowing you and he doesn't know you, that's

actually bullshitting. But I will call in. I'm not afraid to call in Robert Lawson. He's got a band already. To fact check that episode. Robert Lawson is going to be on call for every episode now yeah he's the fact checker don't fuck with me bob will let it was an honor and a privilege to see you at tmlx14 i can't believe you made the drive and you showed up and that meant a lot to me i did oh you're you're most welcome and i had a lovely sandwich it was great great. And it was nice to talk to my local city councillor who turns out lives around the corner from me. Oh, Brad Bradford. Brad Bradford.

I love that name. Yes, I know. Oh, yeah, you did. That's right. We made him work on his visit to TMLX 14. That's right. Yeah. I still haven't seen him in the neighborhood.

I think he avoids me because he knows I'm not a big fan of the way he votes, generally speaking. So, on the council. But, you know, it was a lovely time. Nice to see all the FOTMs, and thank you for letting me get on the mic there. Cam was there. I know. No, Stu. No.

Cam was there. I asked Cam on behalf of yourself, Rob, and me for some advice as being the veteran toast host, and he had nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I was really kind of disappointed in Cam. I don't think Cam was on his, I don't think he was on his

game that day. He was a little, he seemed a little low, like lower energy than usual. Yeah, I know. Actually, I think we talked about it. I think he came on since then.

He's been down here. He has episode, your return episode with Cam was really good. I mean, not return, but the most recent one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

And I think that was more regular Cam, but I do believe, because I was off my game for TMLX14, so I actually said to, I actually said, this is some behind the scenes action, I said to Cam to, I actually said, this is some behind-the-scenes action,

I said to Cam Gordon, I'm going to need you to do more heavy lifting and the whole thing, because I wasn't sure, I was like, I wasn't even sure I was going to be there. I was like, am I going to have TMLX14? I won't be there. Were you not feeling well?

I was sick already. I was sick for a period of, yes, I was sick for days before, and then I was like, I'm pulling it together for TMLX14. So I didn't feel particularly sharp that day. Like, I don't know if it came across across because there's so much frenetic action. The good thing was Cam was so low that you seemed high.

But I really was relying on the wrong guy. He was not himself and not on the game. Low Cam. He'd tell you. Cam was off his game. I don't think he was feeling very well. But Bob, you were there. And Rob, you could not make it.

No, and I'm sorry I missed it, but I heard it was amazing. I actually haven't listened to that episode yet. I got to tune into it. I know you're a big sports fan. Yeah. So it opens with Stephen Brunt. Okay.

Is that a sports guy? But I would say because the day before was the Phantom Flight of Shohei Otani. Oh, right. And then during our recording, we actually got the news

that he was a Dodger and he dodged us, that's for sure. Having Steven Brunt on the mic to talk about that was kind of a special thing. People wanted to hear from Steven Brunt on Saturday morning. There was only one place you would find him. That was at TMLX14 at Palma's Kitchen. Thank you, Palma Pasta, for hosting and feeding everybody.

I think everybody loved the food. Thank you, Great Lakes, for sending over some cold brewskis for that event. Amazing. Okay. We also lost Miles Goodwin. And I'm wondering if you, Rob Pruce, ever crossed paths with Miles Goodwin. Never did.

Loved his music, though. Pre-you. Yeah. I mean, he's a sound of my childhood. I mean, definitely when I look at those April Wine Greatest Hits. And I didn't actually own any of the records. I heard them enough on the radio that I was, you know, when you're a kid, you don't have a huge record collection.

You got to be more selective with what you're purchasing. But I loved all those songs. Like, seriously. Yeah. Basement Dweller thinks I should fact check all episodes. Like, every episode should have a post-show with Robert Lawson where we go through it.

But yeah, so I knew, I knew, uh, I'm, I didn't listen to a lot of radio in the seventies. I don't know. Maybe I overheard some in the car or something like that.

Probably CBC radio or something like that. But absolutely. When I had Miles Goodwin on Toronto Mike, I started going through the catalog and I was like, Oh, that's a, that's an April wine song. That's an April wine song. I think I did that like 20 times.

I'm like, these are the sneaky, sneaky deep catalog of Canadian radio hits. Especially as we, as the years go on and we have our Canadian countdowns and like the Canada Day countdowns. And that's where over the years it all accumulates and you hear all these songs and they just become a part of your

culture. Do you have a favorite April Wine song? Tonight is a Wonderful Time to Fall in Love and there's a ballad from like their early days called, I think it's called

I'm on Fire for You Baby. Okay, that song, Tonight is a Wonderful Time to Fall in Love, did you know it's covered by the Trans Canada Highwaymen on their new album and they played it live

at the Horseshoe Tavern. You were at that show. I was at that show. Two of those guys were in my basement. I thought they were so good on your show. Well, they're great. They're great.

They're great. And those are, I mean, I like all four members of that band, but if I had to like, you know, close my eyes and which two would I like in the basement right now, I would pick Chris Murphy from Sloan and Stephen Page from Bare Naked Ladies. Yep. And I didn't know which two I was going to get.

Okay, radio program guy, radio, what's your title, Bob? My title is a mister. No, it is a program manager. Mr. Okay, radio program guy, radio, what's your title, Bob? My title is Mr. No, it is program manager. Mr. Willett, program manager. Okay, your stations are not stations that play classic rock, correct? Yes, they are. They are?

Yeah, Big FM is a classic, it's a classic rock station. So when Miles Goodwin died, tell me what's the mechanism in place? Is there a button where you can insert April Wine songs that weren't pre-programmed? Can you please give us some background? tell me what's the mechanism in place? Is there a button where you can insert April Wine songs that weren't pre-programmed? Can you please give us some background?

Yeah, I mean, it depends on who's on the air. We have two live shows a day. And if the live shows happen to be when... So morning and drive. Yep, yep. Six to 10. And actually, though, it's been announced. Actually, I could talk about this.

Something big. We're going to be live on Big FM 96.3 Big FM from 6am to 7pm every day because Bill Wilichka is going to be doing middays on my radio station. Cora sends me an email every time they have an announcement.

I helped write that PR release. Share the news. In the case of a guy like Miles Goodwin, it's not like getting John Lenn news. You know, in the case of a guy like Miles Goodwin, you know, it's not like getting John Lennon, no offense, in the middle of the night, you know. You know, we already play a ton of... He's the Canadian John Lennon. Yeah, there you go.

It's, you know, we're not interrupting Monday Night Football for that. So, you know, we would play. We already play a lot anyway. We would just throw some in for sure. Yeah. And then a producer in Ottawa put together a little memorial and we would have spun that a bunch of times, a little gathering of music together.

But you know, I'm curious. So let's say if someone dies right after the afternoon drive, like let's say, oh, we got news. Yeah, let's use Miles Goodwin as the example. So a founder, lead singer, principal songwriter for a big Canadian rock 70s band like April Wine. So he dies and you find out, I don't know, 7 p.m.

Yeah. Okay. It's the wire or whatever. Is it still a wire? It's probably. Yeah, there is. You saw it on Twitter. There is.

It's on Twitter. Okay. So you don't have any live programming until like, I don't know, 6 a.m.? 6 a.m. The next day. Is there anything you, Bob Willett, can do to have some April Wine played that night? I could. Yes. But I would have. But you wouldn't do it for that gentleman. April Wine played that night? I could, yes.

But you wouldn't do it for that gentleman. It would have to be like Neil Young or something. Yep, precisely. Where's the bar? Like, would you do it if Brian Adams died? Probably would do my best to do so. You've got to remember, we're in a bit of a different situation right now because I, the program you know work remotely I don't not in the market it's not like

I could run it drive in and go do something which I would if depending on the premises that there is no no no no and then and both guys and both guys who I'm the one

now with Bill Bill would go in if I called Bill Willitka he'd go in and do it if it was somebody big the other two guys don't live close enough to the radio station to make

it happen to be completely now is it all like you'll just think on it for a second? Like, are they big enough? So you're like, Miles Goodwin? No, we're not doing it for Miles. Okay, but you might do it for Brian Adams. So you've got to find the guy between the two.

What about Alan Frew? Alan Frew driving home from TMLX, not big enough. Alan Frew. Sorry. You will forget him when he's gone. Wow. That's what you're telling me. Okay, Corey Hart.

No. Not Corey Hart. Okay, so it's between Corey and Brian. Yeah. He's when you're telling me. Okay, Corey Hart. No. Not Corey Hart. Okay, so it's between Corey and Brian. Yeah. Who's between Corey and Brian? I don't know. Okay, so obviously

you would do it for Joni and Neil. That's a very thin line. Yeah, like Randy Bachman. Randy Bachman. You do it for Randy? Maybe. That's interesting.

Maybe Randy or... If you won't do it for Randy, I'd say bob no listen i don't know what it's like to be in radio but randy fucking backman was in the guest it's backman it's not that tells us you didn't listen to the oh you're right i didn't it is backman but it's backman turn overdrive right backman it's backman turn overdrive but it is this guy listens i love this guy this is my guy okay so hold on here hear me out the guess who and bachman turner overdrive are two legacy huge canadian rock bands but if the founder

of those two oh no he's yeah bachman was there at the beginning right so it's burden who comes in later so and we just lost chad allen which we talked about in that robert lawson episode so you're not going to interrupt programming to insert Guess Who songs and BTO songs because Randy Backman passed away. It comes down, honestly, just more comes down to what tools I have at my fingertips. And unfortunately, radio has been cut so deep, we just don't have the people to do it, unfortunately.

Because you don't live in Kingston. No. Well, if I lived in Kingstonston i would go do it myself but other than that i don't have live people i don't have producers i don't have it's just the way it's just the there's no radio station in the country that has anybody there uh you know after you know i mean there are some bigger markets that have live evenings but most of of the time, nobody does. We don't have the capabilities. This is why podcasters are eating your lunch, okay, Bob? I'm telling you, I would have a two-hour tribute to Backman in the feed

10 minutes after the announcement is passing. That's a different world. And also, let's be honest. You are in the 1% of podcasters. Oh, my God. You admit it. They're announcing the winners of this canadian podcasting award they're announcing it friday because i've been nominated for two awards so i next week i could be introducing this show is um award winning that's right yeah but i might do it anyways because who the fuck will like take the time exactly just say

it yeah you know i look man i would love to be able to do it for everybody if I had the capabilities. I just can't. And it's a different world that we live in now because people aren't tuning to that. You don't find out.

No, exactly. But even the classic rockers, I feel like the guys who loved Miles Goodwin might be the same guys who still listen to the radio. Yeah, they're the guys who are listening.

They are still listening to the radio. And they might want to tune in and hear Ooh, Whatever the... Ooh, What a Night. Ooh, What a Night. Although he doesn't sing

on that song, but he's still the co-writer. But like what people do now is they tune into their own personal playlist and playlists show up instantly on Spotify, Apple music. I know, I know, but the boomers are still listening.

They are. The boomers are still listening and you know, and we're not, you know, yeah, I don't know if anybody's eating our lunch. I could do nine. I actually find it interesting.

Like, like, like when you, when, when a big Canadian corporate rock star like Miles Goodwin dies, like what does that do to the Kingston, Ontario chorus? Not a heck of a lot, to be honest. Very interesting.

Unfortunately. We learned a lot today, right? Sure. Yeah. It's a different world. It's a changing world. I wish. And honestly, the thing is, because like as generations go on, it's sad for us to

get older and acknowledge that some of our shit doesn't have the same level of importance to a larger spectrum of the population, but that's just life, right? Like when old actors die and people are like, who's that?

I don't know who that is. And then Wikipedia certain actors go, holy shit, I didn't know this guy was in a movie. Okay, but on Turner Classic Movies,

they do the shit, right? So we're talking about a classic rock station. So Turner Classic Movies also isn't going to interrupt programming. Yeah, that's right. They don't have the facilities to do it. No, they don't.

I don't even have this station. I just assume they're interrupting programming. Okay, we have a breaking news. Name a big round. Dick Van Dyke just passed away. Yeah, they're not going to have somebody come in and do that. No, by the next day, maybe they'll have some Dick Van Dyke movies in. I don't like this world where we can't react.

But it's your duty as a podcaster to continue the trend. Exactly. That's what CNN, like TV does it. I know John Lennon, but I'm just telling you, if Miles Goodwin, the version of Miles, obviously John Lennon, that was huge. All the stations are doing live programming. It was a different time or whatever.

Obviously. But I'd like to think that at that time, if the Miles Goodwin of the time had died, it would be very similar. Like there'd be a DJ playing the music, maybe taking calls from people who are talking about how much they loved, you know. A lot of people of a certain vintage, kind of the Rob Pruse vintage. Humble Howard is like this with Miles. Freddie P didn't give a fuck that Miles Goodwin died.

No, he wouldn't. He just did not care. He didn't listen. It's like it never happened. It's like, I don't care. But meanwhile, you have Moose Jaw Howard, who that was his first concert. He tuned in his Top 40 radio.

It was covered with April Wine. I know because I booked Miles Goodwin on Humble and Fred. This was a very big deal. I'd like to think in that there was a time when radio would go have a live person talking about April Wine, maybe an expert, maybe young Eric Alper. Eric Alper would call live person talking about April Wine, maybe an expert, maybe young Eric Alper. Eric Alper would call in and talk about April Wine

and then you'd play a lot of April Wine on the radio. That's all. Sure. Let's get it to our machine. You don't have the money. We don't have the facility. We don't. We don't have the money. It's all about money. You don't have the budget. There was a conversation in the FOTM group on

WhatsApp in which Mark Wiseblood openly wondered if the Spoons had an autograph session at Cheapies 83, 84. Rob, what do you say? Yeah. I saw that he mentioned that and was wondering if it was around this time of year. We did one in 84, but it was like New Year's. And I believe it wasn't Cheapies. It was Sam the Wrecking Man. It might have been Chibis, though.

So tell me about Chibis. I don't have any Chibis experience. I don't know this place. What's Chibis? Chibis? You don't remember Chibis, really? I don't know Chibis. I know Bob and I are similar vendors, but we'd go downtown, and there was A&A, and there was Sam, and then, of course, H&V showed up at 333.

Oh, that's funny, because Chibis was in that same block. I don't know if it was on the other side. Is that where Sunrise ended up being? Or was it a music world? I don't know. Something across the street, which might have been a music world. Chibi's was a discounted place. Do you know when it disappeared?

Not a clue. Somebody in the chat, there are some people joining us. I'm going to shout them out and then we're going to introduce the topic. That's right. I got to crack open my drink here. Are you going to crack open a beer or anything? I'll drink a beer. Well, I can get it out of the fridge.

So I'm going to play a song, and then I'm going to introduce the theme, and then you two can talk about the theme, and I'll get you. What do you want? You want a lager? You want a lager? I'm going to crack open my Tim Hortons.

Oh, Tim Hortons? Yeah, yeah. I'm saving my Tim Hortons. Well, let me get a lager for the alcoholic here. The functional alcoholic will have him. You can drink at 10 o'clock a.m. Sure you can. It's 9.58. You can drink at 7 a.m. I used to work on a morning show. We drank all the time.

Right. Okay. So I will just very quickly shout out that I see, I mentioned Basement Dweller. He mentions that Alan Cross is a big April Wine fan. And again, he grew up in Winnipeg, I think. Because he grew up in Winnipeg, exactly. Your Top 40 station would have been littered with...

And then Jerry Seinfeld is... Who's Jerry Seinfeld? Jerry Seinfeld's on the live chat and says Backman Turner Classic Movies. Okay, Cheapies was open... It just closed in 2020. No, Hamilton, yes. I never bought a single

album in uh in hamilton so i sure did can mark wise blog who's on the live stream tell us when cheapies in downtown toronto closed because i have zero memory of it canada kev is here he says toronto mike just won the canada kev favorite podcast award it's embargoed and he says don't say anything so i just i fuck that up give a good embargo to Mike to find out what their weller does wonder aloud Bob this is for you sure when the members of the founders of trooper pass away will there be a 24 hour

tribute on your stage talking about me personally or anyway that he's just doing shit that I know okay hey look I would love to do a lot more that's all that's all I've been told I might get in trouble for how open I am about my business I think you guys need to be more transparent i agree that you're good and open yeah i would but i get people who are like you know i can't believe you talk so openly about some of the issues with your work i'm like well i talk open this is why i'll never

be higher than middle management is because i don't manage up very well i'm not very great at letting them and not letting them know how it feels down here right but you're you're speaking the truth and i try to the truth hurts to a lot of people who don't want to hear it yeah yeah unfortunately you're you're speaking truth to power bob don't let don't let the man keep you down okay that's right so cambrio is here hello to you leslie leslieville uh is here nice to see you leslie gwto I'm not too sure who that is. Remember the Great Wayne Gretzky jeans? Was that GWG? Great Wayne Gretzky. Yes.

I've never heard GWG called. Yeah, I don't remember GWGs. I do remember that. But I don't remember Great Wayne Gretzky. That's funny. There was a campaign with Wayne wearing the jeans. Really? It was Great Wayne Gretzky.

I have a vivid memory. It's up there with Wranglers. I'd say like 84. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. When I was coming of age. Acronyms with- Moose Grumpy is here.

Rob Proust is here. That's weird. I know. I'm age. Acronyms with... Moose Grumpy is here. Rob Proust is here. That's weird. I know. I'm right here. Look at you. Okay, so I have an introduction. I can't remember my login, so I can't get in. Oh, yeah.

You can sign in. You can watch our show. You got to talk to Ian Service. Oh, here we go. Okay. Okay. So no one picked this song. No.

Good. But I thought this was a good example of a gibberish jam. Sure. And you spelled gibberish with a J so I can get alliteration in there. Gibberish jam. You two tell the listenership what the rules are for today's jam kicking and I will run upstairs and get

a beer. Thank you. So this came to me just kind of randomly. I pitched it after last episode. After some song we played last episode, you thought of it, I think. It hit you. Yeah, I pitched it. I was like, you know what, why don't we do songs that have like, and we came up with gibberish afterward, but I said, you know, I said ooh-blah-dee-ooh-blah-dah

was my example. Songs that have words that aren't words. Sounds. Phonetical. I thought we would, given our varied backgrounds, although Mike and I's backgrounds aren't that varied from each other, but I thought we'd be able to come up with some interesting choices

and I well I shouldn't mention certain songs off the top of our heads certain songs came into our heads yeah right away so maybe they're going to be Hanson or because I hope there's a lot that could be Hanson oh there's you know until you start thinking about it yeah you don't really realize how many songs have words

that aren't really words they just have sounds in them you know yeah it's a... Yeah, yeah, yeah and things like that. Yeah. Does that count? Does that count? Yeah. Well, you know what? I should have... That's what I should have done is came up with something. Thank you, sir. Oh, look at this. This is a... Nice. Nice work.

There you go. I'll wait until you sit down. I'll open it so you can hear it. So you're sponsored. Oh. You want him now? Did we do that before? Rob Pruce is gift bombing us. Did you guys tell the listeners interesting things? We explained it well. And we talked shit about you the whole time.

Thank you for my beer. On the mic. Of course. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. You can open up your car. Okay, thank you, Great Lakes. By the way, Great Lakes, thank you for...

They do six-month increments, and they have renewed... Amazing. Although it would be hurt, I think, because it's been like six, seven years. Oh, my gosh. I know. That'd be a tough one when you go six, seven years, and then you're like, we're pulling our sponsorship. We're going to sponsor Toronto Legends instead.

I'd be very hurt by that. Okay. Rob, the floor is yours before we get to your first jam. Am I first? No, you're always first. You're always first. You're giving me a gift. Oh. It's Christmas. I'm going to give them both at the same time because they're the same thing. Oh, okay. But you can choose.

Were these purchased at Rapids? They sure were. Okay. At 13th and Lakeshore? Aww. 13th and Lakeshore? Yeah. Oh, you know what? Thank you. A Kinder Surprise. A massive Kinder Surprise. Thank you. Come on Yeah. Oh, you know what? Thank you so much. A Kinder Surprise. Come on now. A massive Kinder Surprise. Thank you.

Yeah, come on now. Ho, ho, ho. Thank you, Rob. It's just chocolate. You know, you could share it. It's lovely. Thank you, sir. It's very nice. Just a little holiday.

Rob, I have a gift for you as well. This is funny, because 13th in Lakeshore is where you find that rabbi's you were at. Yep. 14th in Lakeshore is where Ridley Funeral Home is. You were one block away.

You could have gone in and did a pre-plan. I did a secret shout out. Well, like a secret Santa. I have for you from Ridley Funeral Home, Merry Christmas. This is a measuring tape

for you, Rob. Oh, thank you. I don't know if I've given you No, I got a flashlight from them. Oh, you didn't get one? Yeah. Is that right? Yeah, I got a flashlight

a couple, like a year ago. I have the tape measure. Oh, you have it. Oh, no, I have the tape measure. I don't know if your kids, like some of your kids like it. Since 1921, is what I hear. It's amazing. You didn't know Brad was that old.

No. It looks good for them. Brad Jones. Brad Bradford is already excited about TMLX 15. Is he now? I'm just warning you now. And it's probably going to be, so guys can mark the date here, and I'll confirm it later.

But it's probably going to be June 27 at 6pm at Great Lakes Brewery in South Etobicoke. It's going to be TMLX 15. So Rob, June 27. June 27. Okay. I have a wireless speaker. This is from Mineris. Yes.

Do you have one of these already? We both have one. They only have this the last week of the Mineris sponsorship. Really? Who's the sales guyis sponsorship. Okay, well. Really? Who's the sales guy? Al Drago, I think. Al's actually my guest on Friday.

Maybe I'll do a hard sell on the air, okay? But this is so you can listen to season five of Yes, We Are Open, which is an award. They've won awards. They get an award-winning podcast from Moneris. Merry Christmas, Rob. Really? Thank you.

I have one already. Well, you don't have to take it. You can just pretend to take it. Seriously, though, my wife and I are obsessed with this speaker, so I will take a second if that's really okay. It's good for travel. I was like, because people celebrate the speaker like that's celebrating Moneris, but Moneris, all they did

was buy the speaker. They didn't make that speaker. And somebody threw their logos on the front of it, right? Yeah. It's a great speaker, though. Yeah, it's a great speaker, because Moneris are great people yeah. It's a great speaker. Yeah, he's a great speaker because Moneris are great people and that's a great podcast. And Al Grego, I will say, will be here on Friday with his

He's got a Letter Kenny podcast. Which is also getting referenced in Variety magazine or something. And we talked about this when obviously he didn't hear Al Grego when he came on to discuss songs from season five of Yes, We Are Open. But we talked about it quite a bit. I think I did a great pitch that he had on

the founder. Who's the founder? Liso? Jared Liso. Kiso. Okay. Jared Kiso doesn't do a lot of press. He hasn't impressed since the beginning or something. But he did do a Zoom with the Pradustan people. And this is a big

get. So anytime like Variety or anybody wants to write about Letterkenny, the only quotes you get from Jared Kiso about like not doing it anymore, because this is the end of the line,

like they're done. They're going to do Shorzy stuff instead. So the only quotes you can get where Jared says, yeah, we're done. We're going to do Shorzy is from the produce stand.

Like there's no other source for jared kiso quotes so we'll talk more about this on friday because they're gonna come on and tell me why i should uh enjoy a letter kenny more so this is friday's episode okay so this topic is gibberish jams and uh how quickly did you guys come up with your songs like because i had like songs like three or four songs that popped out of my head immediately. I did too. But then the further I dug, the more I found.

Then I had to start thinning them out again. So I've left a bunch on the floor. Tons of stuff. Sometimes I do the digging thing, but this time I actually didn't do the digging thing. You just went with the first ones. Because in my mind, like that song, Do What Did He, was in my head right away. And that's how I said, I'll pull it for like to introduce the topic or whatever.

And I know Bob did something interesting because I'm going to ask him about a life event that just happened. But I'm going to save it for when he kicks out an unrelated bonus jam. Oh, cool. Typically, your bonus jams are related to your jam you kicked out. But he's got an unrelated but appropriate song. So it's like a bonus jam. But then I have an update from Bob I can't wait to get. Okay. Okay.

But we're going to start with, and I feel like Rob Proust starts with this artist every fucking episode of Toast. This is how I feel. You know how Stu liked his Yacht Rock and he liked Michael McDonald and I got to vibe like,

okay, he's going to kick out a Toto jam now. Like I always, oh, it's another Toto jam. This is your Toto. Yes, it really is. I am. But that's a language.

Nope. This isn't French or Italian? No, it's Italian, right? It's not. What? That's gibberish? Well, it sounds kind of French-y. It sounds kind of French-y. My kids are upstairs and they're fluent.

I'll bring them down. It sounds a little Italian too, right? Yeah. Like it's a mixture. Like a hybrid. This is like, if I'm doing Second City, this is like we do a whole thing called Gibberish Opera. Yeah, exactly. Frickin' Elton John did it in 1974.

So this is Elton John. Yeah. Classic era Elton. Like, he was bored. What I was doing a little research, he was inspired by the Beatles song, The Sun King on Abbey Road. The sound of it and sort of that sound of like an exotic language happening.

So he got Bernie to just write up these random lyrics. See, that could have been your bonus jam. You're not thinking about bonus jams, Rob. I forgot about that. But I don't want to play a Beatles song. And you're like, oh, it was inspired by a Beatles song. But actually, I listened to the Beatles song to see if it was going to be relevant to listen to, and I was like, it's not really close.

It wasn't close enough. Not really. I get it based on what the song is. You're doing it wrong. I don't care. This is how many episodes of Toast have you done? Twelve. That would have been a good anyways for us to play that and talk about how this inspired

But we've got so many other things to talk about. But the fact that he said to Bernie, I want to do a nonsense lyric. And it just kind of shows you that at that moment, Elton could do no wrong. So that is true. I find it interesting that... There's a little accordion in here too. I just find it interesting that if Elton wants to do that, Elton can't even write fake lyrics. I know.

He could have, right? I know. But so this, right? I know. But so this was stuck on this album, which was called Caribou, which had two huge hits, Bitches Back and Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me. Wow. Was like the main giant hit off this album.

So I didn't know this song really when I was a kid because I never had the album, but over the years I came to know it and I just thought it's a fun, weird thing because he's not really singing about anything. The whole song has no real lyrics. Literally gibberish.

Literally gibberish. Okay, well then it's a great opening chant for this topic. This is a great, well it might be one of the greatest opening chants.

I don't know this song. No. I don't know it either. But it sounds probably somewhere. Marsden probably played it. Ironically we played it when Miles Goodwin died.

No kidding. But it sounds like an Elton John song from the classy era, but just bullshit lyrics, right? Which is why it kind of shows you. He could take anything and just make it sound like a great song. I'd argue like if he believed more in the music in that song,

he wouldn't blow it with gibberish lyrics. Also, what you're saying is that... He'd say, Bernie, Bernie! I need real fucking lyrics because I got a hit on my hands. That's a deep cut, right? That's true. It is a deep cut. And it's on Caribou? It's on Caribou, Bernie. I need real fucking lyrics because I got a hit on my hands. But that's a deep cut, right? That's true. Is it a deep cut, Rob? It is a deep cut.

Okay. And it's on Caribou? It's on Caribou. Yep. Okay. Wow. And the bitch is back. What is the song called?

It's called Solar Prestige Egamon. What? Really? Solar Prestige Egamon. That's hilarious. Yes. I got to look that up. Yep.

Okay. Wow. We're off to a roaring start. I mean, to me, that's gibberish. Like gibberish can be just, you know, like words in a chorus, whatever. But like, I sort of like this idea that there's whole phrases that sound like gibberish

because it's just a whole other thing. Very appropriate song for this topic. Elton wrote lyrics for several songs under an alias as per Basement Dweller. Oh, wow. Okay. What was the alias? What's the alias, Basement Dweller?

And hello to Hayref. Hayref, by day, he's an accountant. At night, he's a referee for hockey games. And he was also at TMLX 14. So good to see. Hayref, on the live stream, Bob Ouellette, are you ready for your first gibberish jam? Absolutely.

We're going way back for this one. Oh, my brotherly. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl.

Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl.

Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl.

Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl.

Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, me, girl. Oh, That's me. How'd you like to blow your top? Dig yourself some fine reap up. Oh, the hardy old man, that's me. Say I have to be in London, I have to be in Holland, I have to be in Paris Yes sirree, yes sirree, oh the hearty old man that's me

Hearty, hearty, hearty, hearty, hearty, hearty, heart man, that's me. Heidi, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi. Heidi, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he. Heidi, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi. Heidi, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi. Come on. Even if you never heard it, you know how to sing along to it right away. I think they do that at Raptors games.

Yeah, they might. This is Cab Calloway. Can't beat it. Yeah, the Heidi Ho man. My sister's name is Heidi and she hates it when I play this on her. Oh, really? Yes. Yeah, you know, my buddy I was talking with a buddy of mine and he's a big jazz fan.

It's funny, when your Spotify wrapped up, my second most listened to style of music was jazz, but because of Dean Martin. That kind of jazz. Like standards. Dean Martin was actually my most listened to artist last year, of all things. It's like that boat on the Sopranos when they wanted that guy to sell.

So this was actually a short film originally, Heidi Ho Man. And then it became a full movie. Wow. And Cab Calloway, I mean, come on, you know, one of them, like, scat, you know, the whole movie. Okay, tell me, so, Bob, I'm a couple years older, but not much, what is your introduction to Cab Calloway? Introduction, you know, I don't... Because I remember mine.

I feel like it was, like, The Cosby Show or something. Like, I would have thought, but I don't know. I feel like it's just kind of been part of my, it's just out there in the ether. I feel like he's one of those artists. But I feel like Janet Jackson brought him in. I feel like this is actually an idea I had for a topic. Do you remember when I ran by it?

New artists introducing legacy artists to their audience. Right. Like Bono singing with Frank or something. It floated like a lead balloon when I pitched it. Now that you say this, this is an example. This makes sense. So I was thinking,

because there's a video on MuchMusic that we all watched with Janet Jackson and Cab Calloway. And this is Janet to her younger demo, people like me, saying, hey, you guys should know about this cat, man, this legacy artist Cab Calloway.

And yeah, there's a bunch of examples that come to mind. I mean, who's the guy, Dizzy Gillespie? Yeah. I grew up with Dizzy Gillespie. And I remember the cheeks. The big cheeks, sure. Big fucking cheeks or whatever. But I feel like these artists are introduced to you via Bing Crosby and David Bowie.

Bowie. Bing and Bowie, sure. That's right. Bowie's like, yeah, this old cat sang White Christmas for God's sakes. Come on. And then he beat up his kids, allegedly. I don't have any evidence of that. Okay, so Merry Christmas, everybody.

Good choice, Cab Calloway. And we all got to share the earth with Cab Calloway. Yep. It was great. Anyways, I just thought it was interesting. As I read more about him and about his, know the movies and stuff huge stuff like it was really and the sound of that music is so fun like yes you it sort of reminds me also of like i love lucy like watching old tv shows and things yeah like there's a different sort of a uh like a fun night out kind of feeling to that music yeah it's very much like almost 20s, very like Glenn Miller 20s style, you know? Do you remember

growing up and watching Night Court and Harry Anderson would bring out Mel Torme. The Velvet Fog. And he came because, you know, he wrote

the Christmas song that Nat King Cole had the big hit with. And he came up at Christmas at my mom's house and we were talking about Harry Anderson loving the Velvet Fog.

And we all grew up with Mel Torme because Harry Anderson brought him out on Night Court. I'll give you that. I like that. That's a good example. I don't know if there's nine of them we could come up with. There's lots.

I bet there are. Once you start thinking. It's still happening. I've already used two of them. Oh, Jack White would bring it out. This is Loretta Lynn. And you should know Loretta Lynn. Yeah.

Sounds like you should do the show on your own. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll drop this. I have a lot to do. Do we want to do the show on your own. Maybe I will. Maybe I'll drop this. I have a lot to do. Do we want to do the other thing here? Yeah, of course. Okay.

I want to hear this. This is the most important stuff. Everybody, this is going to be, I think this is the biggest reveal in this episode of Toast.

And we're going to soak this in because it's a perfect gibberish jam. Yes. And much like how Rosie and Gray would end a good Lois Little Low concert, this song would end a good Pearl Jam concert.

Almost all. Almost all. I love that better. On a piece of weather. Hey. He doesn't sound like that. I love that better. I fucking love that better, but I can do that. Yeah. On a wish that. On a wish that I'll be. And a call and a say.

And a go and a say. And a call out of hell. And a wish that I'd leave all of my hair I said, I know what I wear A lot of bags on the back of my head I see them Out on the bush Yeah I'll get away I'll see them

Is this a gibberish jam? Kind of. It kind of is, isn't it? Yeah, this is a gibberish jam. But I know what it's related to. No, so story goes that this was actually recorded during the 10th.

Yeah, and it didn't make the album. Amazing. Eddie Vedder basically improvised the lyrics. That's so cool. And this, apparently, the one that we hear, this was done in one take, and it was the second take. And it's just him doing... And every time you see them, me seeing them like about 40 times, I would say of the 40

shows I've seen, 35 have closed with Yellow Leadbetter. They closed with this song. Is it different every time? Different every time. That's so cool. Yeah, he'll be like, over there there's a guy with a t-shirt. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob, you've never seen Pearl Jam. Never seen them live. You gotta fucking do that, man.

We should all go. Yeah, well there's all kinds of rumors going on about a tour coming up. It's a rare band that we loved in the early 90s with but the entire band still, well, the drummer changed. The drummer changed several times, but Matt Cameron's been there since like 2000. So other than the drummer, though, you've got all the family members intact. Wow. It's pretty rare. It's so cool.

I was thinking afterwards, like, I really should have figured out a way to get this in there. And so I texted Mike this morning. I said, we should do Leadbetter if you're not. And also, there's a story I'm going to pull out of Bob right now. I'm going to quickly jump into the live stream to say, there's a lot of examples of modern artists introducing the legacy artists. The KLF brought us Tammy Wynette. Yeah, all right.

Great example. I remember now Lady Gaga telling the kids about Tony Bennett. Jack White and Wanda Jackson. Anyway, Bob. Con White and Wanda Jackson. Anyway. Concan did one as well, but they're Rose Garden. Who do they bring in? Because I have Concan on the show in January.

What's her name? Lynn Anderson. I've never promised you a Rose Garden. Oh, yeah. That is the hook. Yeah, okay. So good. Barry Harris is his name. Yeah, Barry Harris.

He's on the show in January. Can't wait. I have questions for him. Yeah, Barry Harris. He's on the show in January. Can't wait. I have questions for him. And that's because Mark Nathan came on, and then I booked both Barry Harris, who is Konkan, and Marin Cadell. Nice. Booked on Toronto Might. Beautiful.

I saw that. Amazing. Okay. The sweater. Awesome. Tell us, Bob. Yes. Yes.

You love Pearl Jam. You've seen him 40 plus times? Yeah, about 40 times. That's amazing. I've seen him 12 times. Have you really? Yeah. Oh my God. Yes. You love Pearl Jam. You've seen him 40 plus times? Yeah, about 40 times. That's amazing. I've seen him 12 times. Have you really? Yeah. Oh, my God.

But can't touch Bob on this. The furthest I went was Barry. Okay. I've seen them, yeah. Rome. In Rome and Vancouver. Which is further than Barry, right? A little bit.

Not much, though. What happened with you and Pearl Jam since you were last on Toast? So, I have Sirius XM radio in my car and on channel 22. La-di-da. The only reason I keep it is because of channel 22, which is Pearl Jam Radio. And they have a feature, a weekly feature

called Wish List, which is the name of one of their songs. And basically you can email them your selection of five songs as a fan of the band. And you get to host a half an hour show on Pearl Jam Radio. That's so cool. So I did this ages ago. I put it together, and I had a little story for each song, and I was very selective.

I didn't necessarily pick my five favorite songs, but I know how they don't want to hear the same five songs all the time. So I went and I picked five. You can pick their entire catalog, They're all their bootlegs. Like every show they have. They literally have a recording of every show they've ever done. Amazing. So every song,

show I've seen. So I have memories from each show. Wow. And you can listen to that show. Yeah. So I created a show. I finally got an email back. They're like,

hey, we like your list. Here's the cue sheet. Send us back you introing the songs. Yeah. And this aired last week. That's amazing. It'll be, yeah. So your. You record introing the songs. Yeah. And this, this aired last week. It'll be, yeah.

Your voice was on Sirius XM. Yes. Last week. You could hear Bob for like a half an hour, three times. Yep. That's huge. Yeah.

It was fun. And I recorded one of the, of the, of the times, obviously. So I'm going to put it on the Bob's basement podcast and hope it doesn't get taken down. That's cool. Oh yeah,

that's right. We did chat about it. Yeah. Give it a go. Well, this won't be taken down. So, although I did have podcast and hope it doesn't get taken down. That's cool. Oh, yeah, that's right. We did chat about it. Yeah, give it a go. Well, this won't be taken down. So although I did have my, I did have an episode taken down. I heard you had that happen. That's the weirdest thing. Episode before this one

was taken down because I think I fucked with the ratio. Like a lot of this, you find out, I'll say this, as a 11 plus years doing 1,400 episodes almost, okay? Most of this is trial and error.

Like you got to try something and see what happens and then react to that or whatever. I think there's a ratio of music to talk, like original content I'll call it. Unlicensed music to original content. There's like the algorithm there's a ratio. And I think I add too much original, sorry

too much unlicensed music to original content in the previous episode of Toronto Mike. But the only platform, like Apple, it's on Apple right now. Still, yeah. Who took it down? Spotify.

Spotify took it down. But Spotify is the most, I could tell you that, I would have guessed it would be Spotify. They're the most in bed with the labels, if you think of all of them for some reason. So, okay. So, if you were a Spotify Toronto Mike listener,

you would say, hey, Mike, this is not 1399. The last episode was 1397. Well, you would say, hey Mike, this is not $13.99. The last episode was $13.97. Well, I would say to you there's a $13.98 available everywhere except Spotify because I kicked out Christmas Songs

by FOTMs. So it's like 10 songs and I don't just play them. I do talk about them, but I don't talk enough about them. So I think I fucked with the ratio. Interesting. Mine will be taken down from Spotify for sure. But do talk about them, but I don't talk enough about them. So I think I fucked with the ratio. Interesting. Mine will be taken down from Spotify for sure.

But do it until it does. Yeah, yeah, I will. I'll probably put it up tomorrow. Well, you just, I would say go because

you're talking, that talking on SiriusXM is going to be deemed by the algorithm as original content. Yes, yeah, yeah, for sure.

So I think you'll be okay. I'll find out. Let me know. I'll see what Spotify does to you. Maybe they just don't like me.

Anyways. A quick thing about the official bootlegs we'll call them of Pearl Jam because I'm also longtime huge Pearl Jam fan

and when I would see a concert I was very excited about the official bootleg but I'm here to tell you I was at a show I think it was

at the Air Canada Center and Eddie did this bit where he played I Got Id and then he took out his guitar and said

it's really just Cinnamon Girl and he plays Cinnamon Girl but that part was removed from the uh of the uh i'm pretty sure i'm like my memory is i bought the cd and that part was gone where he plays uh and i you might say i'm wrong if you can remember it in your mind's eye listening to the official bootleg i don't think the playing and talking about how i got it is a ripoff of cinnamon girl i don't think the playing and talking about how I got it is a ripoff of Cinnamon Girl. I don't think that makes the bootleg, the official bootleg.

I'm going to call bullshit. Okay, call bullshit. You know what, don't fucking call Robert Lawson. No, I'm going to call bullshit on that because I've heard them play that on SiriusXM radio. Okay, well, do you own this CD? I do. Okay, so this is something we should be able to prove very easily. I will also do some homework and we should be able to prove very easily. I will also

do some homework and we'll bring it to the next host whether Robert Lawson needs to get involved or not. You just have a weird memory. No, that's my memory at the time and then I don't ever think about it again until something triggers it like this. And then I pull up that memory and then we find out whether I was wrong or not.

Because I remember playing the CD and I remember thinking, oh, it doesn't have the Neil Young Cinnamon Girl part. The exercise? What do you get? Excise. The excise. Thank you. Thank you for excising that.

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Why is it not in my head? Too much Pearl Jam. Bob McKenzie. I was picturing his son for a moment. I was picturing his brother, Doug. Right, okay, so Bob McKenzie Has been on the Howard Stern After show Oh wow

Yeah like that's a fact I know we talked about it When he came over the first time So there's the only Another FOTM there Okay who's been on Serious There you go Two Serious X-Men

I don't know if it was worth it I can't believe they named Bob McKenzie And the thing is I'm watching I watched the World Junior yesterday I saw Bob McKenzie I mean what the fuck's going on here Okay here we go Here we go My Here we go. My first

gibberish jam. Don't worry, I won't play the whole thing. Should I play the whole thing? No. Should I play it? Hold on. Bob's ready to pounce. He can taste the blood in the water, everybody. In a carload of Vita, baby Don't you know that I'll always be true Oh, won't you come with me I see where Eddie Vedder got it from. He's got it going.

There you go. Right. Oh, won't you come with me And I'll walk this ride Rob, when the live jocks on Big FM in Kingston have to take a pee

or if they ate some bad food the previous night, they stick on into Gata De Vida. Am I right, Bob? No, no you're not. This is not on our playlist Thank you That was the good old days. The WKRP days. I need 15 minutes. There's a groupie here. The longest

song we play is probably, what's the Zeppelin one? Oh, I was going to guess Bohemian Rhapsody. No, no, Zeppelin. Starry Heaven. No, the heavier one. Diremaker. I don't know. I can't remember. Cheermaker. No, it's not. Anyways, it doesn't matter.

I'll tell you. It's the one that Puffy sampled. Oh, yeah. The one from Godzilla. Yes. Yeah, we're on the same page now. Obviously, we're big Zeppelin fans. He's more of an Elton John fan.

I'm a bigger Zeppelin fan than I am an April Wine fan. I can tell you that right now. And I'm not much of a Led Zeppelin fan. Listen, Bob, you were born in the fucking 70s. Yeah, I was. The heyday for April Wine is like 71 to 81 or something. You would completely miss April Wine. And also, I'm from Toronto.

They didn't play here every six minutes. That's true. The way they do. A lot of people your age, not your age, actually, not your age at all. My age. There's a lot of people of a certain age that saw April Wine play their high school gymnasium. Yeah, that's right. Yep, absolutely.

And they might have seen Max Webster too. Yep, for sure. Maybe Rush. We played the shit out of the high schools in southern Ontario. How come that stopped? I was going to say, I feel like we were near the end of the era. Getting into the mid to the late 80s, it just stopped. I don't know. Weird.

High schools didn't have money to pay people. I guess. How much money would it cost to get an up-and-coming Spoons to play your track? No idea, actually. I paid no attention to that shit. Like, I don't know. Did they piece you off? Because you were not a founder.

I was a founder. No, no, I was a founder. You were a founder? Even though you're not the original keyboardist. Yeah. So that means you're not a founder. No, but there was a dude in the band. You know what founder means?

Yeah, but I was on the first album. Ah, there you go. And from then on. So, founder. That's like saying the guy who played the sax in Tragically Hip is a founding member. Well, no, it would be like saying. Do you know who that guy is? You heard of him?

It would be like saying Pete Best. I was going to say Pete Best. Exactly. Right. So. He was a founding member. He was a founding member. So, I was not a founding member.

Right. Jesus Christ. But I have no idea how much. It's like Nirvana had the guy before Daveave grohl that's right oh that's guy yeah but that guy was on bleach wasn't he and there was he was on an album there was a drummer in rush don't don't get angry at me i'm scared of you guys okay so all right the good thing about the song is there's a lot of time for me to talk about it right i'll get to that that's right how long is this you're gonna do that bit right you're gonna play that right okay it's over 17

minutes is it really so here's the deal here's the deal. Here's the deal, everybody. And I think anyone who listened to classic, listened to Q107 back in the day, maybe Psychedelic Sunday, you're well-versed. And again, I'll play how a lot of younger people know. See, my daughter knows Inigata De Vida, okay? And she's seven years old.

So, okay. Inigata De Vida. Again, you guys can argue. I deem that as a gibberish statement, even though it's derived from a real statement, obviously, which we'll talk about when I play the bonus clip. We can talk about it. I'm all about talking about it.

This is written by Doug Ingle from Iron Butterfly, and it is on their 1968 album of the same name, In a Gada Da Vida. It occupies the entire second side of the album. Rob, you're more of a vinyl... I know that Bob's got his fair share of vinyl, but can you think of any other album, a full LP, where

one song occupies the entire side? Not really at all. Like, I had a Yes album when I was a kid, and I think there were like maybe two songs or three songs on a side, but not one. I think the end by The Doors might have

like there might be only two on that. And that's also a screen enhanced jam because I love that song because of Apocalypse Now. Right. There's a single version

of In Agata De Vida which is only two minutes and 52 seconds. Can you believe it? They released a 45 version of this song. Can you imagine? You can cut it to seven minutes. Go seconds. Can you believe it? They released a 45 version of this song. Can you imagine? You can cut it 7 minutes.

Go ahead. It's fine. Whatever. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It's this, well, we'll get to it. But there's a 2 and a half minute drum solo in this song by Ron Bushy. Wow.

Okay. The 252 version of this song actually reached the top 40. It went to number 30. It is the only, as you can imagine, it is the only Iron Butterfly song to reach the top 40. But the album hit number 4 and

sold, you guys ready for this? So we were here, some guy named Chris Murphy was here with Stephen Page and we were chatting and somebody in the live chat actually wanted to know how many copies of that yellow tape did B&L sell? Yeah. I bought two copies of it.

Bob, did you buy a copy of the yellow tape? You didn't? No, no, no, no. How come? Well, because let's see, the yellow tape's 88, 89? 89, 90?

I got to check it out. Well, because, yeah, because Gordon's at 91. Gordon's at 91. Gordon's at 91. So in 88, I'm only 12. Okay. So I didn't buy tapes then. That's not. So in 88, I'm only 12. Okay. So I didn't buy tapes then yet.

That's not true. I bought my first 45 with Platinum Blonde, Crying Over You in 1986. Nice. That was my first 45. But yeah, so the yellow tape didn't become part of my life. I didn't know Barenaked Ladies, even though I grew up in East Toronto. Were you listening to 102.1? No, I was not.

That's why. That's why. Where else would you hear it? I was not. I was a top 40 kid. Oh, okay. I used to listen to 680 or Magic 1025 out of Buffalo with Sandy Beach in the

morning. Not their real name? Do you think? What if I told you what if I told you this yellow tape came out in 1991? No, that's not true. Is that not true? The yellow tape didn't come out in 91 because that's when Gordon came out. Gordon came out maybe 1991. No, that's not true. Is that not true?

The yellow tape didn't come out in 91 because that's when Gordon came out. Gordon came out maybe in 92, actually. Is this the drum solo? Yeah. We should listen to this. This is Bushy. I want candy.

Totally. I want candy. Adam and the Ants. I believe it was recorded in 1991 at Wellesley Sound by Walter Sobik. And I think that it comes out in

1991. I think the yellow tape is 91. How old are you, Bob, in 1991? So I'm 15. That's prime buy a fucking yellow tape at the Santa Monica Band Time. I bought Gordon when I was 16. Okay. I will tell you the length of the yellow tape

is shorter than Inigata De Vida. It is only $16.59. What's on it? McDonald's Girl? No, that's not on it. No, no, no. If I had a million dollars, be my Yoko Ono, Brian Wilson, blame it on me if I had a million dollars in the Fight the Power cover. I love Blame It On Me If I Had A Million Dollar in the Fight The Power cover.

I love Blame It On Me. But the Fight The Power cover is only a minute and 33 seconds. Okay, so I have many things I want to say here. But I'm mesmerized by the drum solo here by Ron Bushy.

I also think that this is not a gibberish jam. Okay, when I'm done you can do that. Okay, go ahead. It's 17 minutes. Come on, let's get to it. Jesus, man. I'm pacing myself because I don that. Okay, go ahead. It's 17 minutes.

I'm pacing myself because I don't like truncating these jams if I don't have to. I'm trying to go 17 minutes of my fun facts here. So, there's a film, you might know the film Manhunter from 1986. They have an 8 minute 20 second edit of this song. In the film? Yeah,

in the film, on the soundtrack too. And it was named, BH1 named this song, In a God of? Yeah, in the film, on the soundtrack too. And it was named, VH1 named this song, In a Gara de Vida, as the 24th greatest hard rock song of all time. Wow. And it has influenced many, much songs. So this drum solo, I have a fun fact. I have two fun facts. Where will I begin?

Let me start with this. So we're listening to the Ron Bushy drum solo, right? You soaking it in? We've been singing along to it. You weren't even paying attention. Okay. So I brought it down. I'm not going to do all...

In fact, I realized I emailed myself the files. I'm just going to grab it. I heard a song in the beginning of that that I realized it was sort of influenced by. It's the...

And if you listen in the opening, it sounds like Cream, Sunshine of Your Love. Oh, for sure. I never really thought of it before. Yeah. Because what year would Cream have done 67 so interesting okay yep you know this song heard it

okay Oh yeah, alright Are you gonna be in my dreams tonight? Okay, this is by far the longest drum solo Ringo Starr ever did with the Beatles. Yeah, there it was. That drum solo oningo Starr ever did with the Beatles. There it was. That drum solo on the end from Abbey Road was inspired by Ron Bushy's drum solo in A God of the Beatles.

And this is the last song. The end happens to be the last song recorded collectively by all four members of the Beatles. Really? This is it. The last song they recorded. So this, yeah,

it pops on to Abbey Road, which was released after they broke up there. And yeah, you don't know, how about this? No Ron Bushy in a Gata De Vida drum solo. No Ringo Starr drum solo on the end. Okay. And then it's not even the,

that's not even the... That's great That's amazing Hymns here, I got hymns here Get them rather holy, fresh from God's brain to your mouth And now, please rise for our opening hymn In the Garden of Eden by I, Ron Butterfly I, Ron Butterfly.

In the Garden of Eden, honey, don't you know that I love you? In the Garden of Eden, baby, don't you know that I'll always be true? Oh won't you come with me Wait a minute, this sounds like rock and or roll. Three lines in this episode. So quotable. Bart Saw. Name of the episode, right? I know one of you is responsible for this, so repeat after me.

If I withhold the truth, may I go straight to hell, where I will eat naught but burning hot coals and drink naught but burning hot cola. Where fiery demons will perch me in the back. Where my soul will be chopped into confetti and strewn upon a parade of murderers and single mothers. Where my tongue will be torn out by ravenous birds. Bart did it! That part right there!

Millhouse? Millhouse, you did the right thing. Bart, come with me for punishment. You too, Snitchy. And I want you to clean every one of these organ pipes that you have befouled with your popular music. Okay, that's a 1995 episode of The Simpsons. Which episode is that?

Bart sells his soul. Bart sells his soul, yeah. Yeah, so now Bob can do it, because of course the sheet music is called In the Garden of Eden. Yes. In the Garden of Eden is like a drunken take on that sentence so i deem i i will speak myself and then bob's gonna reply i deem in a god of devita as

gibberish even though it's based on non-gibberish which is in the garden of eden but this is in to god of devita go ahead bob you're full of shit um you get on me all the time yourself so in the garden of eden is the name of the song i remember when i was a kid my dad told me they couldn't call it in the garden of eden nobody in radio would have played it so they called it so they caught it in a gada davida so that's how they got away with it that's not confirmed your dad might have heard that are you are you besmirching my dead father? No, I'm kidding. Does he actually sing In the Garden of Eden? No.

You want me to play 17 minutes of it again? He says, In the Garden of Eden. Which is gibberish. No, it's not gibberish. I think it's more gibberish because he doesn't actually say in the. He says in a. In the Garden of Eden. I was going to say if Rob's going to play right down the middle, sit on the fence like he always does.

Yeah, he does do that, doesn't he? But he's not with you. He's taking your side. No, it's about time he threw a backbone. Yeah. Listen, listen. I think it's Inna Gada.

Yeah, so he's taking your side. Guys, there's no debate here. It's Inna Gada Davida. Yeah, but by the 17th minute, it's not. It's not In the Garden of Eden. It is. It is.

You want me to skip ahead? By the 16th or 17th, well, I don't know. Get to the part where he's singing at least. All right. Well, after the drum solo, I'm skipping ahead. All right.

Oh, have you ever played a big church organ? How is that? Weird. Yeah. It's super cool. Yeah? Yeah.

I don't know enough about it to do feet and everything. There's feet and there's levels. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Yeah? Yeah. It's amazing.

I bet. It must feel crazy. I'm not trained enough to do it. That's probably not true. Well, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's amazing. I bet. It must feel crazy. I'm not trained enough to do it. That's probably not true. Well, you just need some time on it. Well, there's ways

to study different levels of individual parts. Is it written different, obviously, as well? Yeah. Writing for your feet and all that shit. Wow, crazy.

Oh, yeah, there's that Ringo star fucking... That Ringo. Ringo's sitting in with Iron Butterfly. Oh. A little bass solo. A little bass solo, too? Why not, right? You got 17 with Iron Butterfly. Oh. Bass solo. Bass solo too?

Why not, right? You got 17 minutes. Might as well do a bass solo. All right, don't worry about it. Fine, you're right. I'm wrong. Well, there's no wrong or right. It's an opinion.

I don't think it's a gibberish song. I am saying. I think you wasted 17 minutes of our lives here. This is not a... They didn't play it all. In a God of the Vita, I deem a gibberish jam. That's fine. It's your show.

And you think your brain is translating into In the Garden of Eden, which is the inspiration for the gibberish. But In Agata De Vida is not In the Garden of Eden. There's two different sentences. No, it is. But here's the problem. They only did that to get it on the radio, man. I never knew that.

I don't think that's true. I don't actually. I will say I did a lot of, you know, because it's my jam, I did some homework. Yeah, you went on Wikipedia. Go ahead. Well, beyond Wikipedia, to be quite honest with you. And I did not lot of, you know, because it's my jam, I did some homework. Yeah, you went on Wikipedia. Go ahead. Well, beyond Wikipedia, to be quite honest with you. And I did not find that. You didn't find that anywhere?

That's not confirmed anywhere. You know what? Get one of them on the show. Are anybody alive? You should get them on the show. There is a story about, you know, singing in the Garden of Eden in a drunken state. And it comes out like in a Garden of Eden. And that sticks.

There's that story. Because they used to, long before they recorded that song yes they would play it in concert and it would often last 20 30 minutes like that's one of those oh you see pearl jam a lot like in the middle of uh in the middle of uh goes for a smoke sure there's a long jam in there and it can go a long time and they embed other songs in there and there's a whole does intention play is my question does intention change whether it's a gibberish jam well it's because if he's drunk and he can't say it but yes okay but it's stuck and that became the new words in a gutter to be i don't know i would argue that uh those aren't english english words in a god of davida and therefore that's gibberish no but he's drunk

he's not he's yes You just said he's drunk. That's how he came up with it. Yeah, that's inspired the Inna Garden of Eden. So he's saying Inna Garden of Eden. He's just too drunk to say it the right way. So it's not a gibberish song. Okay. Are there other lyrics in the song?

I respect your right to be wrong. Are the words Inna Garden of Eden in the song? No, other lyrics. Is that all he says? Don't you know that i love you right because i sort of forget all the other lyrics that he's saying anyway all right let's move on i uh stand by indigo davida as a uh i stand by we have a second believe it or not we have a second rob pruse jam here we go it's not elton john bob needs to get the richmond fucking hill to see jackie and

phil okay richmond hill to see jackie and ph. You're a poet and you didn't realize it. So we can't just take our time on these. Okay. Are you ready, Rob Pruse, for your second job? I'm ready. Play loud. There are 11 dashes on this board. I can go to 11. This might be from the 80s.

No. No, it's not. Close. Oh, is it? Yeah. Thank you. I don't know this song. Can I fade down now or am I missing something here? You just want to play it forever.

You know, I never want it to end. It doesn't go for 17 minutes, though. But is that what it does over and over again, or is there more? That's the whole song.

Okay, because I don't know the song at all. Do you know the band? Do you know the band? No, what is it? It sounds like Gap Band

a little bit. I don't know. It's Boney M. Listen a little bit more. You know the band. You tell them. I know. I still don't know.

You really don't know? Well, you gave me the link. I copied it and put it in and I spit it out. This is 1979 Talking Heads. Oh. I had no idea. I had no idea.

It's from their album Fear of Music. Fear of Music. And it's called E Zimbra. And the lyrics are inspired by a gibberish poem from 1916

from a Dada artist named Hugo Ball. A Dada? Oh, like the art movement. From the art movement. Wow. So Brian Eno produced this album for Talking Heads, with Talking Heads. Listen to this cool part right here.

This keyboard is... It's just so cool. Anyways, this inspired... This was the song that inspired their next album called Remain in Light. Right.

Which is like a super influential album which came out in 1980. So, it's on the edge of the 80s, right? Sort of heading towards the 80s.

I think it's good we added an older person to our crew here. Yes, I'm bringing all the same shit. Yes, exactly. Not just Pearl Jam and the Simpsons.

I mean, I brought Cab Calloway to the table. That's right. You really did. I did. I went really old. That's true. That, exactly. Not just Pearl Jam and the Simpsons. I mean, I brought Cab Calloway to the table. That's right. You really did. I did. I went really old. That's true. But yeah, this song I've loved my whole life long. When I was a teenager and this was just before I joined The Spoon, so I was listening to all the New Wave. And I always loved this because I was like, what? He's not saying anything. But it's just

kind of interesting because it's more about the group. Jerry Harrison from Talking Heads, he said this is his favorite song. Wasn't there a house movement like Jungle? Doesn't it sound a little bit like Jungle? This like paves the way to everything that came out.

To all those, to all those. For sure. Yeah, yeah. But Eno was the one who sort of suggested that they like just get all the jams going.

So what's he said? Ha, hoo, ha, hoo. I wrote it down. Ga, gee, berry, bim, ba, clandridi, la, lee, lo, ni, ca, do, ri, ga, jam, ah. I think that's Gaelic.

No, it's not. It's not. By the way, just before we started recording when I had the live stream open, I was playing Brian Eno. Were you? I just want to tell you that. Nice, nice.

Music for airports. So both of your selections thus far, sir, have no actual lyrics at all. Nope. All gibberish. Yep. You're taking us to the next level. Next level.

Next level. Wait till you hear his third jam. That's cool. That's very cool. Well, yeah, like, you know, I don't know, like I said before, there might be some songs that get Hanson'd anyways that we could talk about. Pop songs, which use just, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, there's lots. I got a few in mind here. What are we looking at here? Actually, that's the wrong one. What is that, though? That's an old dream something it says. Is that the Dream Warriors? Dream Theater? Dream Police. What are you doing?

This is great. This is great for the people who are not on the live stream. Oh, here we go. Okay, I added method to my mind. This is my next selection. Not this particular. That's the album before. Alright, let we go. Oh, here we go. I added Method to my menu. This is my next selection. Not this particular. That's the album before.

Here we go. All right, let's go. Shimmy, shimmy, Cocoa Pop. Yeah, shimmy, shimmy, Cocoa Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Cocoa Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Cocoa Pop. Wee-wee chocolate crossover. Yeah, wee chocolate crossover.

Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. I'm Cocoa and I might go pop. It's about time that I clear this. So pardon me, miss, but I'd like for you to hear this. If you kiss me again, I'll kiss you back. Kiss me again. You see, I feel real good inside. Can you turn my headphones up a little bit?

There's no need for you to hear this. Kiss me. I'll kiss you back. There we go. Well, you look kind of cute to me. I think we can achieve this. Plus, you act like you need this. There we go. any kind of weather we'll be in you forever stay together well i just don't know but i'll tell you what though if you kiss me then i'll kiss you back and i guess you want to know if i'm gonna be around i ain't sure but i'll tell you what i do know if you kiss me then i'll kiss you back and you greeted rob proof with those exact words today.

If you kiss me, then I'll kiss you back. It's true. That would be our... Because you needed consent. That's right. Shimmy, shimmy, cocoa pop. This is from the second full album, I think, or at least the follow-up to Sex Packets.

This is Digital Underground. Use me, trooper. Will you be needing any packets today? No, I'll be... Don't go pulling on my jacket, okay? Cool. Just trying to get your attention so you can take a look at this invention. Chemically...

What year is this from? 1991. Wow. So this is the follow-up. So the first album is the one that has Humpty Dance. So this is Shock G. The guy's name was Greg Jacobs. Okay. And this album, Sons of the P, did not have the commercial success as Digital Under, as

the first one with Humpty Dance on it. But however, this- And I always like Do What You Like, too. Yeah. Kiss You Back was a hit. It was a single. It did chart. No, this was a single. This was a much music jam. Yeah. Kiss You Back was a hit. It was a single. No, this was a single.

This was a much music jam. Kiss You Back and No Nose Job was the other one, which is a really weird one. These guys have some really weird stuff.

But remember, Humpty had the big nose. That's right. So he didn't want to get a nose job. This particular, the Shimmy Shimmy Cocoa Pop was kind of when

we started thinking about these jams, this came to my head. Shimmy Shimmy Cocoa Pop. You were my guest when Shock G passed away and when we started thinking about these jams, this came to my head. Shimmy Shimmy Cocoa Pop. You were my guest when Shock G passed away and we were paying respect. You came on to Pandemic Friday. That's right. It was a Pandemic Friday.

To talk about, we both love that Sex Packet album. Sex Packet album is amazing. Danger Zone and Gut Fest, Gut Fest, Gut Fest. They were and they were also, they probably had one of the best lyrics on that West Coast Rap All-Stars jam, the nine-minute version

of We're All in the Same Gang. Do you remember? Do you want to drop it? Do you remember? I could. Hang on. How does it start? I can't do it with the lyrics going right now.

It'll come to you. It will. When you're inspired. Yes. This reminds me a little bit of De La Soul. So same influence, right?. It'll come to you. It will. When you're inspired. Yes. This reminds me a little bit of De La Soul. So same influence, right? Very influenced by De La Soul.

Or did this influence De La Soul? No, De La Soul would have been, like they're East Coasters, right? Like they're, I think, and... I realize Rob does not know, we could blow his mind with the obvious stuff. Yeah, you can.

Do you know what famous rapper got his start in digital? No, right. Nope. Tupac. Really? Tupac was in digital underground. Yeah.

Really? When I clown around, when I clown around with the underground girls, usually frown, see me down when I come around. That's pretty much Tupac. That was the same song, which is that awful movie with Dan Aykroyd and Demi Moore.

Right, right. Oh, funny. So this particular song, let's see, where did a kiss you back? Made it a top 40,

number 40 in the billboard, hot 100 and number five. So shimmy, shimmy, Coco Number 40 in the Billboard Hot 100. And number 5. So Shimmy Shimmy Cocoa Pop. Also in the 90s would have got... Or early 2000s. Here's something where you might have heard it. If we got the second... The first of the...

I might have them in the wrong order. Because it's the early 90s. I'm going to have to play a dip. Because I have two bonus jams. Yeah. So one is from like the 30s. Okay. I'll do that last.

Yeah. Do that one last. Okay. I'll start this up. And then I'll bring bonus jams. Yeah, so one is from like the 30s. Okay, I'll do that last? Yeah, do that one last. Okay, I'll start this up and then I'll bring this one out. Here we go. By far the best Nelly song. Oh, I don't know. I think so. I like Ride With Me. I'll take this one. This one's dirtier.

It's a little more... Okay, so there is a question in the chat for you. Okay, sure. Yeah, that's Nelly. That's Nelly. Country Grammar. Nelly, yeah. So it's from, yeah, Country Grammar. He's a St. Louis rapper.

No, I know Nelly, but I didn't know this song. It's super cool. Yeah, it's a good one. So Mark is asking a question. I think this will lead brilliantly into your other bonus jam. He's wondering aloud, does Bob know this shimmy shimmy isn't from Digital Underground? Did you know that, Bob?

Did I know that? I don't know. Let's listen to my other bonus track. Nice job, DJ. Here we go. Shimmy shimmy cocoa pop Shimmy shimmy pop Shimmy shimmy cocoa pop Shimmy shimmy pop Shimmy shimmy, Coco-Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Coco-Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Pop.

Shimmy, shimmy, Coco-Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Pop. Shimmy, shimmy, Coco-Pop. This is what made you think of this Gibberish Jam's last time. Yes. I played a song that referenced this in a lyric. Yes.

That song, Life is a Rock, and it lists all the pop music. It said, shimmy, shimmy, Coco-Pop. Right, and then I played the Humble Howard version. Yes, that's right. So this is Little Anthony and the Imperials from 1959. Amazing. Shimmy, shimmy, coco-bop is the first popular culture reference that I can find.

If there's something more. What year? 59, it says. Well, knowing Mark Weisblatt, he was only a teenager in 59. That's true. You might not know before that. So I don't know. He's an older soul.

Obviously, I can still... What was the John Goodman movie with... Babe. Babe, Pig in the City? No. I know the other Babe. No, the pilot is an alcoholic and they need to sober him up.

It's Denzel Washington. Yeah. I love that movie. And in that movie, he says, Coco Puffs, Coco Puffs. We need some Coco Puffs. And it's basically a cigarette that is laced with cocaine.

So no relation to the popular cereal Coco Puffs. Coco for Coco Puffs. Coco for Coco Puffs. relation to the popular cereal, Coco Puffs. Coco for Coco Puffs. Coco for Coco Puffs. Yeah, Cuckoo for Coco Puffs. That's right. Yeah. So anyways, let's see. There's three references to Shimmy Shimmy Coco Pop

or Shimmy Shimmy Coco Puff. I don't know what the original one means. All right, there's a quote in the chat here. Okay, so Mark Weisblatt, and then he's quoting something. So he's just copying and pasting. Okay. Okay. This is based on a song

called Shimmy Shimmy Coco Wop, which was released by a Pittsburgh group called the El Capris in 1956. Okay, all right. That song was written by group members James Scott, not Baby Scott from CFNY,

James Ward, and Leon Gray alright it takes place on an island and has a Polynesian rhythm so well there you go

is this Wisebot and Moose Grumpy wants you to know this song that was Wisebot that copied and pasted that but so shout out to

Robert Lawson and Moose Grumpy says that song was also in the movie Big yes which I'm here to tell so Big the female lead in Big And Moose Grumpy says that song was also in the movie Big. Yes. Which I'm here to tell.

So Big, the female lead in Big is by Elizabeth Perkins. Okay. You know this actress. I grew up with the original Miracle on 34th Street, but we were looking for a movie on Christmas Eve with the two little ones. And I said, oh, I've never seen the 1990 remake. Mara Wilson's in this thing okay so we put on the miracle on 34th street remake elizabeth perkins is the female lead in that movie and how was it can i tell you something it was fine it was actually an enjoyable view but because

i was familiar with the original i was shocked at how they changed the twist in the courtroom yeah it's not the male thing it's nothing to do with the post office. And that was my favorite part of the fucking original movie was the post office. And they're bringing, they're hauling in all the bags of mail, which the Simpsons do a great parody of, by the way. Shout out to the Simpsons. But no, the twist in the courtroom in the remake

has nothing to do with the post office. And I was like, I had to tell the kids. And then I told the kids the original ending. And then we, because they don't really, in God we trust. They don't even know what mail is. But everybody agreed,

at least they agreed with me because I was into it, that the original twist was better than the new twist. But it was enjoyable. That Mara Wilson at the time,

like that was her imperial period, much like your Elton John in the 70s. Mara Wilson could do no wrong at that time. Right. And she was great in this film.

There you go. Okay. That's my another movie review. Yeah. Canada Kev says, like many hits of this era aimed at teenager, it's about a dance. The Coco Bop. The third verse contains specific instructions. Left foot forward, right one back.

Bring them side by side. Syncopate your last two steps. Now you're gonna glide. Like the... I almost said that. The do-si-do. Oh, yeah, I love the conversations inspired by this.

Good job. Thanks for doing content for us. I like it. I like it when the audience brings the content. That's the whole idea, right? That's why we invented the live stream.

Okay. So, you had a rap song as your second jam i know rob what is your thought on uh rap rap in general yeah like like do you do you ever purposefully play a rap song no no you've never if you encounter in the wild like do you enjoy it sometimes sometimes i'm a i'm not a big fan of the lyrical content yeah fair enough as soon as are you offended by uh the lyrical content. Yeah, fair enough. As soon as I... Were you offended by the lyrical content of Digital Underground?

No, not at all. Digital Underground was fine. They were dropping the N-bomb in Nelly's song. Yeah, no, that's fine. But it's newer stuff that I'm... But Nelly is black.

Yeah, no, no, I know. But yeah, I can feel uncomfortable here. I liked early like Sugar Hill Records kind of stuff. I'm old school though, right? Like I remember

when White Lines was a new song and it's... And What about Run DMC? Sure, I like them. You were rocking the Adidas? Yeah, I wasn't really. I'm rocking the Adidas right now. But I like it up to a certain point and I love a lot of the production techniques and stuff, but I'm never

a fan of the lyrics, unfortunately. There's some gibberish lyrics in this one you might dig. You ready? Okay, I'm ready. I want your review of this one. I love it already. Don't worry. I kick some flavor like Stephen King writes horror. If I was a Jew then I'd light I'm worried. I kick some flavor. Like Stephen King writes horror.

If I was a Jew, then I'd light up my mower. I got rhymes for ya. Excuse me, senora. Are you a whore-up? Are you a lady? Is it Erica Boyer or Marsha Brady? Let me know, hon. The deed'll get done.

Just awesome, the position. I'll take my rod and then I'll go fishing. I'll get your river flowing. I'm always in the knowin' It comes to giving pleasure I'm every woman's treasure I came to work your body So let me do my job I've never been laid off

But I'm in skill paid off Cause now I'm making records Now I'm making tapes Steady bussing suckers in bunches like grapes Making all the paves Scooping up the loot Putting suckers on the run Put my gun in and I shoot

I've never been a front I've never been a fraud I got a natural skill. For that I thank the Lord. Cause I feel blessed. I'm casually dressed. I always got my gun, but I never wear it best. I'm quick on the draw.

Like a horse named McGraw from the cartoon. Boom, shalock, lock, boom. Shalock, lock, boom. All right now. Boom, shalock, lock, boom. A little louder. Boom, shalock, lock, boom. Every night.

Boom, shalock, lock, boom. All right now. Breaker, breaker. Okay, wealot, lock, boom. A little high, boom, shalot, lock, boom. I like that. Break up, break up. Okay, we just talked about Mara Wilson. This just occurred to me listening to this song. Mara Wilson had her imperial period, okay? She could do no wrong, right? One of those movies was a Robin Williams gem called Mrs. Doubtfire.

I took my grandmother to that. That's the only movie in my life I took my grandmother to that that's the only movie in my life I took my grandmother to see at the Humber Cinema I took her to see that yeah Mrs. Doubtfire there you go that movie opens with House of Pain

jump around do you remember? I don't I don't remember that at all you haven't revisited it with your kids? no I haven't seen it it opens up a big party

because he's like an irresponsible adult and there's a huge party there's farm animals it's a huge party and it's like an irresponsible adult. And there's a huge party. There's farm animals. It's a huge party. And it's a censored version because they skip a problematic verse,

I remember, in the Smack in the Hole. Oh, yes. There's a Smack in the Hole reference. And that didn't make the Mrs. Doubtfire version.

They edited it out or something like that. So this is House of Pain. Okay, this is House of Pain. Yes. Okay. This is from the same album that had Jump Around, which was a massive fucking hit. It was.

Do you remember when Jump Around hit? Yep. I remember I was working at McDonald's and it was like, that was it. You were working at McDonald's at that time? I was at McDonald's when Jump Around broke. Yes, absolutely. 1992 Tommy Boy Records. Oh, we didn't shout out with fuck, we didn't shout out with

your, with Digital Underground, who I also liked at the time. There was an Attic Records release in this country. I remember that was... It had the Attic Records logo on it. It was the Digital Underground. Right. So we talk a lot about Attic Records on this show.

Shout out to Almer. Shout out to Almer, who's a late-grade FOTM. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Yes. Okay. Do you guys remember the name of this debut album by House of Pain, which had the big hits on it?

Fine Malt Lyrics was the name of this album. Fine Malt Lyrics? Yeah. Fine Malt Lyrics. Shamrocks and Shenanigans is the name of this? Yeah, this is Shamrocks and Shenanigans. Great. So Boom, shlock, lock, boom.

Okay. Fun fact, a co-write of this song is a guy who kind of almost sort of was on Toronto Mike if I can spin it that way because Stu Stone is friends with DJ Lethal. During a toast or maybe a pandemic Friday DJ Lethal was on the live chat and we were kind of getting his feedback in real time. So I don't think his voice made

the air but his real time comments on things absolutely was on Toronto Mike. DJ Lethal that close to being an FO2. There you go. He's a co-writer. TJ Lethal, not his real name. His real name is Lior DeMont.

All right. Okay, Lior DeMont. And that's why he changed it. TJ Lethal is a better name for him, I think, in that industry. Okay, so I have not much of a mind blow, but we have a Nirvana fan in this room besides myself. You too, Bob?

I like Nirvana, yeah, yeah. I think Bob is a Nirvana fan. So I remember at the time I had the single and it had all these remixes on it. And I actually gravitated towards this remix of Shamrock's and Shenanigans' Boom Shalot's Lock Boom, parenthesis jam. Because, do you know whose remix this was? Any guess? You want to guess? I gave you a hint by mentioning this one.

Is it Butch Vig? Butch Vig. Yeah. This is the Butch Vig remix. It's cool. The guitars are really cool. Now, was House of Pain featured on that Judgment Night soundtrack? A hundred percent. Yes. A's cool. The guitars are really cool. How was the pain featured on that Judgment Night soundtrack?

A hundred percent. Judgment Night was one of the first rock rap hybrid. I mean, obviously Walk This Way, obviously. Walk This Way, obviously. And there was a Blondie song called Rapture. Rapture, but I mean a real heavy when you were taking two

bands and mashing them together. That Judgment Night soundtrack was it. And I remember hearing these guys on there for sure. Can we talk while you're looking that up? Although I don't know if Rob would know. Just another victim with Helmet. There you go with Helmet. That's it.

The chameleon-like change in Everlast, who of course is the lead rapper with House of Pain. How many different lives that guy's had? At least three. He had a heart attack in his 30s, I want to say. But I'm talking like kind of sound and image wise. Whitey Ford Sings the Blues was in my CD player

of my 99 Protege when I rear-ended a pickup truck on the 401 with myended a pickup truck on the 401. Right. My buddy Mark Carey on the passenger side. Right.

So that Whitey Ford Singin' the Blues massive album with What It's Like. But you know pre-1992. Yeah. Like a boy band maybe? No.

He was alone. He was by himself. He did a song called The Rhythm. The Rhythm. Really? And you could look it up. It was a huge,

much music hit. He wore a suit. Uh-huh. And he had his hair all slicked back. And it was like same era as Soul to Soul, Back to Life. Oh, wow. Same era. The Rhythm.

That sounds familiar, actually. It's called The Rhythm by Everlast. Okay. Public Enemy. The Rhythm. The Rebel. Without a pause, I'm lowering my level. But that's a big example right there.

Okay, so there's three parts. Then you have that version. Then you have the House of Pain version. Then you have the Whitey Ford Sings the Blues version. Very interesting guy. Very interesting, Everlast. Everlast, that's my name. I do remember the follow-up album to Fine Malt Lyrics

did not do very well at all. No, you had to be a fan. You had to be a fan, You had to be a fan. Absolutely. Whitey Ford sings the blues. That was later. That was him alone. Yes, Everlast. And there's still songs from Whitey Ford sing the blues you'll hear on all the radio.

And Enz too. Yes, both of them. They've killed them. They're horrible. It's horrible. Radio's killed those two songs. Good songs though. Good songs, okay. Although songs, yes. Good songs. Okay. Although I remember they would censor the word greens, like smoked fire greens, and they would censor it.

And I was like, you can't say greens on the radio. That must be an American thing. Okay. All right. Rob Pruce. Yeah. Last round. Final round here.

You're standing. Okay. Did you do song? Boom, shak shak, boom. This is your song? Oh, forlack, shlack, boom. This is your song? Oh, for God's sake. Why didn't I think that it was... After I did...

No, it was back-to-back rap. I know, I mean, yes. All rap sounds the same to me. It all does all sound the same. No, but I don't remember you specifically saying that this is my... Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was clear. It was that smooth.

It was really smooth. I'm pretty fucking smooth. I can't even say the name of this song. Don't try to say it. I'm going to kick it here, but I'm going to just tell people, you might have got some electronics for Christmas. Maybe you got a new headphones or new cabling or whatever because you had some...

I have a problem with my headphone jack. It kind of doesn't quite go in the phone properly, so it works as a speak, as a headphones, but it doesn't work as a microphone. It's problematic. I might need to throw that out. I'm not going to throw in the fucking garbage because I'm not an asshole. Okay.

Those chemicals end up in the landfill. I'm going to recycle my electronics.ca. Where are you going, Rob? Same place. What is that place? Recycle my electronics.ca. Where's Bob Willett going? Recycle my electronics.ca.

You have a good voice, Bob. Well, thank you. Have you ever done any voiceover work? Like for my radio station? Besides your like... Yeah, I've voiced commercials. Yes. What's the most famous brand you've ever voiced? I was...

There was... I used to do Popeye's supplements. Did you? Wow. I did Popeye's supplements when I was at Evanov Radio. I also did, oh, Arts, the landscaper. It's not famous. I just love saying arts.

There's a landscape place when I worked out in Durham. Yeah, a bunch of different places I used to do. How does the copyright work? So there's a famous comic strip named Popeye from the 30s, I guess. It was way back. And then Popeye, the sailor man. And then, of course, you've got the supplements, which has the face of Popeye, right?

Yeah, they must have paid. But where does the Louisiana chicken come into play? Like, they can just call themselves Popeyes? Did they have to license that? I know they don't use the cartoon character,

but still, there's got to be a trademark infringement there, right? They worked out a deal. Are you asking Rob and I like we should know the answer? I don't know. I'm openly asking. You just make me want to have a Popeye's sandwich

now. Those are some pretty damn good sandwiches. Too many Popeyes and Popeye Jones. What? What? What? What? What?

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What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? We'll be right back. Chains in my head begin to go Bevis is staying at Bill Joe With a stain in his shoes now And a whole bill of sand And a whole red Mary Get the color boss died But it's the same age

You look on me and stain You don't have a job And I've a duty Got a baby to share You don't come And not choose, not buy, but not sell All the hobbles, the skin, all the carbon, no time All the differences stand, like the shoes of a man You've accustomed to the magic of the radio girls

All for Sunday Oh, Sunday. This is the third song Rob kicked out. I really didn't know at all. What the hell are you listening to? I like it. It's deeper cuts. Okay, what am I hearing here? What the hell is this? I only discovered this song about 15 years ago,

and the first time I heard it, I felt instantly in love with it. What the hell is he saying? It sounds kind of like New Orleans, kind of like Acadian. Yeah. Oh, Cajun. Cajun, that's it. Thank you. So this is...

And we just talked about New Orleans chicken. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Popeye. That's right, shout out to Popeye's. Louisiana chicken, sorry. This is more of a shout out to Palma Pasta in a way because this is an Italian singer named Adriana what's his last name? Brody. No. Wait I didn't. Adriana from The Sopranos? No. Adriana

I don't know how to pronounce it. Chalentano. Adriano Chalentano. Sounds good. Also Cynthia Dale's name before she changed it. That's right. And yeah shout out to Bucky St. Marie as well. Sorry. So this was released. Beverly Santa. Marie as well sorry so this was released Beverly Santa Maria

that's right this was released in 1972 it's an Italian single called Prison Collie Intonant Choosehole complete gibberish it's not in Italian

no it's in nothing it's complete gibberish you're running through the Google translator doesn't work so he wrote this song and he wanted to sound he wanted to write a song

that's about a lack of communication and he wanted it to sound like American. Oh, I know. I've heard this story. Yes. So, okay. So what this is, is it's because it sounds like he's saying shit, right? But he's not saying anything.

But he like, I heard about this. Yeah. The way he described it is what it sounds like to people who don't speak English, what Americans all sound like. Yes. Right. So he's sort of got a bit of an American accent as well, but really saying nothing at all. So this was kind of a big hit in Italy in the early 70s,

and it actually uses a drum loop as well. It's like one of the earliest songs to have a loop drum beat and stuff going on as well, right? Because it wasn't done very often. Hey! It sort of became internet famous in 2009 or so. Yes, yes, yes. And I remember reading it on Boing Boing or some website,

and I was instantly obsessed with it because it's just such a cool Is that Bob Dylan on the harmonica there? I think it might be. Maybe. I don't know.

Maybe it's Dylan Young. Roberto Dilliano. Exactly. Pure gibberish. Wow. I love your deep cuts, bud. That's really great. That's how it's spelled.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what got Hanson today? Yeah. I have to bring up one that got Hanson since we only have a couple more to go here.

Louie Louie. Louie Louie. Like this is like yellow lead betters, like predecessor when it came to like gobbledygook sea shanties. Right. Like, right. Is that no one knows what the hell he's saying? I don't know what yours is, but something Italian just came to my mind.

Is your last one Italian? No. No. I think it's French. No, that's Italian. That was an Italian song. It was originally an Italian song. Yeah think it's French. Mano, mano. No, that's Italian. That was an Italian song. It was originally an Italian song. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's French. No, you're wrong. Mano, mano. Yeah, that totally got Hanson. And that was made famous by the very first episode of The Muppet Show. Of course. Absolutely. We all know it from The Muppet Show.

It was on Sesame Street too. Yeah, but it was an Italian single. That's right. Yeah. Hilarious. Okay, good job. Any other things coming to mind that we Hanson? Well, yeah, but I mean, nobody played the police. Do, do. Yeah. Hilarious. Okay, good job. Any other things coming to mind that we Hanson? Well, yeah,

but I mean, nobody played the police to do, do, do, or we could have done so many spoons. Yeah, I know. Trio. Yeah, I almost

was going to do that. Well, that was up there for me. I don't know if you just sent me Charmed Life. I don't know if that's a do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, because once you get into the do's and the. Oh, the do's. Even Hanson themselves. Mbop. Mbop.

There you go. I know. Hanson got Hanson. Hanson got Hanson, right? Yeah. There's so many. Yeah. Yeah.

It's one of those. I actually don't even remember what my last selection is. Okay, ready? Let's surprise Bob with that. I literally don't remember what it is. This is for Bob. Oh, I love this. Oh, yes. Oh, it's a good one. I know it's. Oh. It's a good. oh I love this oh yes

oh it's a good one now I know it oh some good oh oh right oh I gotta get myself up for this one

oh man oh what a good song we didn't really discuss like what is gibberish because you know boom shalock lock, what is gibberish, because, you know, boom, shalock, lock, boom. Is that gibberish?

Shalock's not a word. No, I mean, I deemed it gibberish. But what's the difference between scatting and gibberish? Like, the doo-doo-doos, is that gibberish, or is it just sort of like a scat? It's a mixture, yeah. Like, this is what you're calling gibberish, right? Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Uh. Yeah. It's gibberish? Yeah. Well, it's sort of a scat type thing, you know? Like, do-be-dee. Oh, she-bor-she-bop. Dee-dee-bop.

I ain't got nobody. Oh, that's true. That's a good one. Yeah, that's good. But only the David Lee Roth version. Because that's what I heard first Alright Annie fucking Lennox

Annie Lennox Hold on Here it comes That little do do do Is that you Rob on cue? I wish it was No more I love you That little do-do-do, is that you, Rob, on cue? I wish it was. Would that be you? Yeah, yeah. It could be.

It would be you. It would be. So there you go. And then she's got this good old beat that comes in. It's like that early 90s beat, right? Yeah, this is 95. This comes out. Team Wah.

Yeah, sorry, Sad. Do-do-do-do-do-do. A little Enigma Max. Yeah, you can do that. We heard it in Haywire with Ken Gordon. Yeah. So this was my,

this actually was one of the things that hit me. I was like, this would be a cool one to bring in. Now you're saying it's not gibberish though. No, no, no. I'm having the conversation.

Like there's a scat, right? Like there's, there's a scat thing that I'm not sure. Is it gibberish? Because if it's not English words that make sense together. But that's, I think that is, yeah. is it gibberish because if it's not English words that makes sense together but that's and then I think that is yeah

and then what's so it's just I didn't think a do do do do do do like there's a do do there's a whole do do like that's the lyric that's romantic traffic do you get royalties if I sing it on this program if you sing enough did I send you a mind blow with this

do you get checks for romantic traffic? Do you get a so-can, like, oh, here's your 78 cents. Buys me a couple tanks of gas. Can you be, how honest can you be? I'm serious. So that's a song that definitely booms playing it every day or so. Romantic traffic.

Is it really coffee money? Well, it's been getting played for nearly 40 years and it trickles down of course so what percent do you get what percent of the hold oh not not a large percent i mean gordon i co-wrote the song okay and he wrote the lyrics so we we share a portion of the music share of the song it gets all yeah percentages and all that stuff right and then there's publishers and things but you'll see like there'll be an amount in your account and it'll be like, this is your romantic traffic

so can pay. Yeah, because you get payments for all the different songs and it does get pretty specific in the digital world, right? But I don't generally look at it too often because I usually don't care.

Because it's not a big number. No, it's not. It doesn't change anything. No, not really. It's just cute. Yeah, it's fun. And I think after 40 years for something I did

when I was like 8, 7, 18 years old, I'm like... Is that your most lucrative song? um yes there's a Honeymoon Suite song that I co-wrote called Love Changes Everything

oh yeah which is a good one see if Tara loved that yeah okay what makes more money for you romantic traffic or love changes everything

romantic traffic strangely like after all these years it's weird but anyways did it hit? yeah I know but that was fascinating like Bob refusing to break in for Miles Goodwin dying romantic traffic. Strangely, like after all these years. But anyways, yeah.

I know, but that was fascinating. Like Bob refusing to break in for Miles Goodwin dying. He's like, no, fuck this. He should have died at a more convenient time.

Could have been a lady. Which is a topper. Which is a, yeah. Did I give you a mind blow with this? Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Yeah, okay, good. Oh, good. I wasn't sure. What's a mind blow with this?

Well, you buckle up. You ready? It's a big one. You ready? This is not an original song. Wait a minute. Time out.

Are you saying No More I Love Yous by Andy Lennox is a cover? It's a cover. Do you know what I'm kicking out? Like, I'm going to put this together in the next couple of days is songs you love. Oh, yeah. But you still have time, by the way. I sent you something. Everyone has time.

Okay, then it's going to be in there. But songs you love, like, oh, I love No More I Love Yous. And then you find out later, oh, a cover this could be an example somebody should kick this out you ready we're gonna roll here we go okay and it sounds very can you guess what year this came out? Just by the sound of it. Just wait. That drum sound right there.

I can tell by that reverb on the drum. 1988. Earlier. It's earlier than that. 84? his face. 1988. Earlier. It's earlier than that. Are you stupid? 84? Close. 85.

Wow. 1985. It's a couple dudes, English dudes named David Freeman and Joseph Hughes. Wow. Also known as

Lover Speaks. Wow. That's the name of the band. And what's interesting, each track on this Lover Speaks album, the album's called No More I Love You's,

is based on a concept in Roland Barthes' book, A Lover's Discourse Fragments. It's a concept album. Wow. Yes. Canada Kev says that we're confusing gibberish with automatopia.

Automatopia is a word that sounds like buzz is automatopia. Buzz is a word that sounds like what it is. Listen, I'm an English major from the University of Toronto. Don't you dare mansplain to me with automatopia. Did you finish it? Yeah. Good for you. I never finish anything. I got it somewhere.

I went there for a little bit. Yeah, it should be having it up there. On R's BA. I know it should have it up there. So this actually made it number 58 on the UK singles chart. Really? Yeah, in 1986.

Yeah. So that was my mind blow. That's really interesting. That is not an original Annie Lennox song. And I would say that, see, I only liked it casually, like when it was on, it was always nice, but I never really thought on it too hard only liked it casually like when it was on. It was always nice.

But I never really thought on it too hard. Yeah. But I would have assumed it was an original. Me too. Sounds like, of course,

this is an Annie Lennox song. Yeah. Like Walking on Broken Glass. It's neat when artists would pick a random cover and stick it in in the mix like that. Bowie had one on Let's Dance.

So, diva diva dip dip dip dot. Does that count? I guess. See, that to me, to me,

and again, I don't think it's that I'm going to pee at. To me, that's scatting. Like, there's a scat. Yeah. The song. I think it just comes back to the

I just like the scat, even though I'm terrible at it. But okay, this is all about the conversation. I like the fact now people will spend the next month debating whether it's gibberish because gibberish is nonsensical word. I gave you true gibberish. Three true gibberish.

But I think, I think, I can't wait to talk about my next job. You're full gibberish. Full on, yeah. Most of mine are probably, could be scat, I suppose. I think yours are gibberish. I say it counts as gibberish as well. I, you know, I mean, if we're adding this caveat now, then it's too late. Okay. Here it comes. Dip, now, then it's too late. Okay.

Here it comes. See, in a gada devida, to me, in a gada devida, to me, is gibberish because these are nonsensical words. Even though we know what they're based on, that's, you know, so I still would go to bat for that. I'm going to bat for all of mine, including this monster fucking song

you might have heard before. Oh. See? Yeah. Just heard this one, isn't it? I am he as you are he as you are me And we are all together See how they run like pigs from a gun See how they fly

I'm crying Sitting on a cornflake Waiting for the van to come Corporation t-shirt Stupid bloody Tuesday man You've been a naughty boy You let your face grow long I am the Eggman

They are the Eggmen I am the Eggman They are the Eggman I am the Walrus Goo-goo-ga-joob Mr. City All right, so I'm going to bat for that line right there. Goo-goo-ga-joob. Is it goo-goo or coo-coo? Goo-goo.

Like, goo-goo-ga-joob is the line. Goo-goo-ga-joob. And I'm going to bat as that being gibberish. Goo-goo-ga-joob. And I'm going to bat as that being gibberish. Goo goo goo joob. Anyway, I also dig this song. This is, of course, from the 19th...

Did you ever see the film Magical Mystery Tour? Did anyone here see the film Magical Mystery Tour? I'm sure if Rob Proust wasn't in the washroom,

he'll say yes. Oh, he's in the washroom? Yeah, were you paying attention? I was actually... You're so into the song. I actually really like these trippy Beatles songs, like listening in the headphones. Yeah. And I really... You're so into the song. I actually really like these trippy Beatles songs

like listening in the headphones and I really You didn't even notice that Rob left. Didn't even notice Rob left because he's Yeah. Because he's in your peripheral.

Yeah, and I was really listening closely. Yeah, you were. It sounds good in the fucking cans. Okay. Speaking of being in the can Ha!

I gotta get Rob back. He's my resident. I'll tell you a little like 101 knowledge here and then we'll come back to Magic and Mystery Tour. So, John Lennon wrote this song. I know it gets credited

to Lennon McCartney but that was their deal. So this is a John Lennon song. I did want to talk about this part here actually. Too bad Rob's missing this. Okay. So, this is actually

It's on the Magical Mystery Tour EP of course. It's the B-side to the single Hello Mystery Tour EP, of course. It's the B-side to the single Hello, Goodbye. Okay, come back. I want to talk to you. I did see the movie. You did see the movie. Of course you did, yeah.

It's just weird. I don't think it was critically acclaimed. People didn't like it, right? It was worth checking out once just to say I did, but yeah, you didn't miss anything. It's interesting. This totally fits in the gibberish in a larger

picture too, though, because the fact that these are sort of, the words sound like they make sense, but it's still sort of nonsense. But I was thinking, words not making sense are still saying something. I don't think that's gibberish. Like, to me, goo-goo-ga-joob, goo-goo-ga-joob, there, now we're

talking gibberish. But gibberish can I think it can also be words But that would be more like Nonsensical Nonsensical It's nonsense I guess gibberish Depends how you define it

With a G or a J as well It's a great song though In headphones right Yeah well that's it I didn't even know You fucking left No idea Okay so What I find interesting About this recording Yeah, well, that's it. I didn't even know you fucking left. No idea.

Okay, so what I find interesting about this recording is, coming up here, listen closely. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So John Lennon literally has a radio, and he's turning the dial. And he's just recording himself flipping, just rolling the dial like we all did as kids,

back when we had dials on us. Although I have a radio upstairs with a dial. But if you listen, he picks up a dramatic reading of Shakespeare's King Lear, which was airing on BBC. And it's kind of like perfect. The part of King Lear that gets picked up in this actual

recording we're listening to right now. It's almost like you'd think, oh yeah, fucking George Martin added this. Well, you know where that inspiration comes from as well for the Beatles was from a German composer named Karlheinz Stockhausen. And Stockhausen is actually one of the people on the cover of Sgt. Pepper.

He's in the back row. And Stockhausen was an influence on them as far as a lot of his music was experimental. He actually wrote a piece for six transistor radios to be like, it's random kind of things that go on, but his music, he also influenced the Beatles to do Revolution No. 9. That was based

on sort of his electronic and tape experiments and things as well. Okay, here's a fun fact. I mentioned that... No, that's great. Sorry, that's amazing. Why are you apologizing? Because I don't want to step on your interest. Itlington of you man holy smokes just we want that kind of input from you you're the fucking keyboard is from spoons for fuck's sake okay i am the walrus was the b-side to hello goodbye which was a single that the beatles released also on the magical mystery tour ep and there was actually a moment in uh time I guess it was like December 1967, when they were number one, two on the singles charts, the British singles charts.

So that means this song we just heard was simultaneously number one and number two on the British singles chart. But then they banned this song on BBC because there's a line that goes like this. Boy, you've been a naughty girl. You let your knickers down. And this was deemed offensive by the BBC. Okay. Pervert.

I do have some fun facts for you here. One not so fun fact is this is the first studio recording the Beatles made after the death of Brian Epstein. So just like a not so fun fact. And of course that dramatic reading of King Lear that we heard there, I mentioned is from a BBC third program here. Okay, so here, let's get to some fun facts here.

Oh yeah. So much like him, right? Are you kidding me? I have a fun... I'm going to blow your fucking mind in a minute, Rob Bruce. I'm going to blow your fucking mind. Bob's coughing up a lung over here.

Sorry, sorry. Jackie and Phil, wear an N95 when Bob visits in about a couple hours. Get a little acid reflux. Do you have acid reflux? I do. That's not good. Do you take drugs for it? I do.

I think I'm intrepid as well. I know. Okay, everybody. Tears for Fears, Sowing the Seeds of Love, which also sounds great in the headphones. Yes.

But the opening of the song is I Am the Walrus. It sounds just like I Am the Walrus. But the whole song is, this whole arrangement with the electric piano and stuff.

It's just very... Well, okay. So the way I was kind of digging into Sowing the Seeds of Love because it was always so Beatle-esque but I never broke it down.

But it starts with I Am The Walrus. Then it becomes Penny Lane in the middle. And at the end, it's All You Need Is Love. It's just Beatles all over. Yeah.

It's Beatles all over. This is probably my favorite Tears For Fear song song. Is it really? I think so. I've seen them, but they're amazing. Did you see them on this tour? No, I saw them at Casino Rambo.

Oh, wow. Like a bunch of years ago, and it was so good. They're so good. I remember getting from Columbia House, getting their greatest hits. Yeah. Right? Tears Well Down. Yeah.

And I remember my buddies. I was in high school, and my buddies made fun of me incessantly. Like, Tears for Fears, what's wrong with you? Yeah. I was like, we're listening to, you know, Boom, Shalak, Shalak, Boom at that time. Right. Of course. Of course.

I'm listening to Tears for Fears. I remember when Tears for Fears hit number one in the US. And I was. It was a show, was it? It was Everybody Wants to Rule the World, I think. Right. Well, they're both from songs from the big chairs. Yeah.

Either. Maybe both. But I had been. Show went to number one, I think. Yeah. But both from songs from the big chairs yeah either maybe both but I had been I went to number one I think yeah but I was already a fan for a couple years

they were such an like an alternative band in the early oh it ties to Stu Stone because of the famous cover yeah

on Donnie Darko oh yes of course of course that really brought a new life to them yeah but that whole their first album

was such a huge influence on me like in the early spoons days when it came out in 82 83 so by 85, when they got to number one, I remember

being in my car listening to the countdown and I was a little disappointed. I'm like, oh my god, the secret's out. Now the whole world loves Tears for Fears and I thought they were our band. You had them. Yeah, they were our band. Oh, sorry, speaking of 82, Bruce McTavish is an old sales guy. Do you know Bruce? Of course. Bruce McTavish lives in my neighborhood. No. And he

is like, I listen to you with Rob on Toronto. And I see him all the time. We've worked together at three different stations. You never know who's listening. He used to work with us with Quality Records, I think. Yeah, of course. So Bruce was like, I was up at the cottage with Sandy

and Gord. And I was like, I know Rob. So Bruce McTavish says, hello. Oh my god, that's amazing. So Bruce McTavish says hello. He says hello. Oh my God, that's amazing. So funny. That's so great.

It's a small world. He was a label guy? Uh-huh. Yeah. Anyway. Any relation to Craig McTavish? I don't think so,

though. Don't know. Sells for Bell Media. There's that trumpet sales guy. There it is. Yeah. Sorry.

That's amazing. We could do a whole episode on this song, I think. Okay, so here's Ready for the Mind Blow. Roland Orzabal. Did I say his last name right? Yes.

Okay, so we all know him. Front man for Cheers for Fears. Okay, this is a quote from him. Ready? I dug this up in some article they did about this song, and he goes, I am the walrus starts off at one tempo and ends up at another tempo.

So we programmed the click from 84.5 beats per minute to go all the way up right at the end when it's going mad to 88.5 beats. From what to what? 84 to 88. 84.5. I mean, it's cool though. Then he says, then we recut it. I'm going somewhere else because I don't even know what all that means. Then we recut it

and then we had it and it was working pretty well. So Roland's like, yeah, like we did completely copy I Am The Walrus and that's what it sounds like. But then, do you know Dave Bascom?

Yep. Okay. They talked to him and he seems to know more of what's going on with Sowing The Seeds Of Love. So let me get rid of Sowing The Seeds Of Love. So let me get rid of Sowing the Seeds of Love.

He says, actually, they did not copy I Am the Walrus by the Beatles. They did not. But he says they did copy a song that was copying I Am the Walrus. You ready for this mind fucking blow? This is the song that they actually ripped off for the opening of Sowing the Seeds of Love.

You ready? Yeah, sure. I think Rob will really appreciate this. Rob, tell me when you recognize this. Oh, is this the Ruddles? Yes. Because I was like, it is the I Am The Walrus, but yeah, no, it's the Ruddles. Amazing.

This is Piggy in the Middle by the Ruddles. Right, right. Oh my God. So Dave Bascombe is like, actually, no, we didn't use, we did not use I Am The Walrus. That's amazing. We used Piggy in the Middle. Right. Listen to this. That's so good. Have you seen you seen the ruddles no i've never seen it no you need to see i remember when the guy died

i remember i dug into the ruddles i missed the ruddles and then i'm like the film is so good you need to see the film it needs to be your thing for 2024 so he borrowed this album from his manager dave bascom borrowed this album and his manager, Dave Vascom, borrowed this album and it's got Piggy in the Middle by the Ruddles. He says he doesn't think he ever gave it back

but he took the template for the tempo from this song. Amazing. Isn't that wild? Yeah, it's beautiful. But Roland, meanwhile, thinks it's I Am the Walrus

like everyone else thinks but Dave's like, no, actually, it's Piggy in the Middle by the Ruddles. That's so funny. It's just wild. I think that's fucking wild.

Neil Innes was the guy from the Ruttles who passed away who wrote all the songs and he also played guitar on Tears for Fears. He played with them as well. He did like the solo

on Everybody Wants to Rule the World, I believe. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And Basement Dweller just says, since we're talking Tears for Fears,

he says his favorite is Head Over Heels and I remember I went to U of T as I mentioned moments ago. Actually, I don't bring that up very often, but I should because that's a big fucking deal that I got into it and I got a degree from U of T.

Good for you. Congratulations. I am a gifted student, but I didn't always apply myself. Okay. But Head Over Heels was filmed in a U of T library. Yes, that's right. And I remember that was the fun fact. Oh, look, this is where they filmed Head Over Heels.

But that was well before you were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like 85. I had Cynthia Dale here. Yeah. And I just said, hey, you know, we both went to Michael Power High School. And she's like, how old are you? And she's like, oh, I was gone.

I mean, I never suggested I was there at the same time as Cynthia Dale. Like, Cynthia Dale is 63 years old. Is she? Wow. Like, Unless she was in school for 15 years. You never know. As I learned from Tommy Boy, which was filmed at U of T.

Everything ties together. Tommy Boy was filmed at U of T. Lots of people go to school for 15 years. They're called doctors. Right? Okay. Shout out to another Happy Madison production where we learned peeing your pants was cool call me miles davis which all comes back to randy backman saying he

played with miles davis and when i played the clip of randy backman saying he played with miles davis robert lawson says that didn't happen. Also that whole thing about him hanging out with the Beatles I thought was good too. Robert's reply to that was very good. You know it's a polarizing episode because there's a lot of people who don't think it's fair to Randy and I did get a note from a listener of the program who says

that the thing about Randy saying he hung out with the Beatles does not appear in any of Randy's like autobiographies. Yeah. So he's wondering where, and I will find out from Robert,

but where did Robert hear Backman say he hung out with the Beatles? Right. Like, so, you know, that's the kind of like, I don't know. Right.

Like I have no fucking clue if he said that, but Lawson who studies this fucking band, the guess who, and studies Backman says Backman tells that story. Well, I need the info where he tells that story. Basement Dweller says, not Neil Innes on Shout. Oh, not Neil Innes.

Basement Dwellers are Robert Lawson. You can fact check me all you want. Have they ever been in the same room at the same time? I feel like he played guitar on some song then. Maybe not that one, but maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, I like when who is it? Michael Williams got the wrong Pink Floyd song

that had a certain... So sometimes you just misspeak and then a hundred... The best way to find something out is to say like a mistruth and then a hundred fucking people will... I said Rick Ocasek spelled his name like Rick Emmett and I've been hearing left, right and center that Rick Ocasek is R name like Rick Emmett and I've been hearing left, right and center that Rick Ocasek

is R-I-C and Rick Emmett is R-I-K. By the way, it's a great episode of Toronto Mike. He did not blow me off for shitting all over Randy Backman. All right, guys, we're done. What? And I target, yeah, that's it. I target two hours. We went like a little bit over, but I had a

fucking great time with you guys. This is our last episode of 2023. Happy holidays. So let the arguments begin. What's gibberish? What's onomatopoeia? What's nonsense? They all flow like rivers in music. They all go, there's a place for all of them. Who needs labels, man?

Yeah, man. We're not here for labels. Come on. Enjoy Aunt Jackie and Uncle Phil? Yes, of course. What time do you want us to be there? We're doing a lasagna and a porchetta. It's going to be very nice. Elvis was just

here because he came over for Festivus. My buddy Elvis. I love the Elvis episode. Oh yeah, good. Okay. Good. Somebody does. Good. Now I remember he was a for a period of time i knew him as a vegan he's a vegan right he didn't get a meat lasagna from palma pasta but i went he took me to a tfc match and then we were going to get some food at halftime and he ordered the porchetta and he wolfed it down beside me wow and i remember he said i thought you were like a vegan like that

fucking that's a pig porchetta he's's like, there's some exception or whatever. I'm at TFC or whatever. There was like a meat. Oh, he's got it in his mind. An exception. But I remember him wolfing down the porchetta. And I'm like, you can't eat that. You're either a vegan or you're not.

There's no middle. No middle ground. No middle ground, man. Have you ever been a vegan in your life, Mr. Rob Pruse? No. What about you, Bob? Come on. Come on.

Look at me. It might help with your acid reflux. It me. It might help with your acid reflux. It might. It might help with my acid reflux. I apologize for that. Well, you don't have to be a vegan, but you can eat mindfully and you can make choices

that aren't consistently that thing. Speaking of, you know what's pissing me off? I listen to a podcast forum. I listen to Ongoing History of New Music. You ever heard of this podcast? Yeah. So Alan Cross gets money

from the Beef Board of Canada or something like that. And he spews this bullshit about how environmentally friendly and responsible consuming beef is in Canada. And I listened to this and it's like the number one, literally the number one thing you can do for climate change. If you cared about the environment and you were going to do one thing, the number one thing you could do to have the most effect on the planet is to stop eating meat yes that's the best thing you can do for the environment is stop eating beef but if the beef council is listening i do have a sponsorship opportunity january 1st 2024 and i will spew the same bullshit that alan cross spews on his ongoing history music if the price is right.

So don't forget me. Rob Prues, where are you off to now? Burlington? Meeting a friend for lunch actually here in Etobicoke. Really? Yeah, an old Burlington friend. What time should I be there? You'd be there at noon-ish. Yeah, just an old friend that I grew up with and he lives in Toronto and I haven't seen him in a while so we're going to meet for lunch. And you chose South Etobicoke

to meet. Sure did. Halfway in. Is it the Lucky Dice? I don't remember what it's called. I've got to get a message from them. But yeah, just hanging out there, hanging out with my family, back with my mom and my sisters and everybody. Was it tough, your first Christmas without your dad? Is that tough?

It's weird. Yeah. Like, it hit me in a weird way. Same question for you, Bob. No, I know it's not your first. Yeah. No, it's weird because he was still alive last Christmas, but he was like stuck in the bed. It was sad. It wasn't good.

And so it felt weird this year because everything else seemed the same and I can't believe that a fucking year's gone by. Happy belated one year anniversary, by the way. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For our shows together. That's right. That came up in memories on Facebook the other day. Yes. Yeah. And I... It's been here. You're a matchmaker, Rob and I. There you go. We've been making... We've been pretty consistent this year too, right? Yeah, it's been good.

Yeah, we've done all right. 12 we said, right? So we did one a month. There we go. It's amazing we did one a month. That's awesome. I can't wait to see you guys in January, Bob, and you're off to... Off to Richmond Hill for Aunt Jackie and Uncle Phil's place, and then I'm going to Detroit just to watch two horrible basketball teams

play. And that... You should come up with a topic. Oh yeah. Yeah. And that brings us to the end of our 1,399th show. Big milestone episode tomorrow. You can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Bob is at Bob Willett. Rob Pruce is at Rob Pruce X. Much love to all who made this possible. Great Lakes Brewery, they're back in January. Palma Pasta, they're back in January. that Rob proves X much love to all who made this possible. Great lakes brewery. They're back in January, Palma pasta. They're back in January.

Raymond James, Canada. I'm going to talk to Cooksey. See if we can find a Christmas miracle here. Mineris takes a little break, recycle my electronics. They're in for all of 2024. So they're back in January and Ridley funeral home. They're back in January.

See you all tomorrow. in January and Ridley Funeral Home they're back in January see you all tomorrow when Mohit Rajans drops by to kick out the jams that's big episode 1400 there might be public enemy be there

yeah the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms us today and your smile is fine Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms us today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away. Cause everything is rosy now, everything is rosy, yeah. Everything is rosy and gray, yeah. Oh dear grace