Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST25 Hauntingly Beautiful Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1433

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

In this 25th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out hauntingly beautiful jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta,... Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada and Electronic Products Recycling Association. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:01:49 returning for the 25th episode of toast. 25th. I got to double check that. I think that's right. Is Bob Willett. Good day. And Rob Bruce. Welcome back everybody. Bob and Rob, it's a toast for breakfast. Toast for breakfast. Beer for breakfast for me. Are you going to do that voice the whole time, Rob? What voice? I'm so stuck on my throat. That's your thing? This is your bit. I like it. Okay. Well, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I like it. I'm looking for voiceover work. So if you got any numbers, any contacts. That's a competitive field. I think Bob's in that same field now. My friend, not with his voice. It's a competitive field. It is a very competitive field. I think Bob's in that same field now. Not with his voice, my friend, not with his voice. No. It's a little bit Bob Einstein, isn't it? A little bit, but it sucks. I like Bob.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It gets away really fast. It sucks, Bob is better at that. And shout out to the funeral home. You've heard the Tyler Stewart episode. He drove Bob Einstein around in aging court because they filmed that thing in aging court. That's the, what? Bizarre.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We was. Kind of. Super Dave Osborne show. Super Dave Osborne, which was on Bizarre. Because FOTM, John Beiner told me, they realized he was a bigger hit. Like the people just wanted more Super Dave. I forgot you talked to John Beiner.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I need to listen to that episode. He's still with us, you know. Yeah, yeah. He's a hilarious guy, though. No shout out to, really, if you don't have a lot of ground to cover today, we're going to find out. So Bob, you were a little bit late. You got stuck in some romantic traffic. I did. I did get stuck in some romantic traffic. You know,
Starting point is 00:03:15 we were talking off the air about ways and how well the ways works or not. And in my case today, I think it's not as good at predicting. Like if you see, I want to arrive at 10, um, like was exactly what happened to me. He said, I want to arrive at 10. I did this's not as good at predicting. Like if you say I want to arrive at ten like was exactly what happened to me. He said I want to arrive at ten. I did this at like seven thirty this morning. I would like I would like to arrive at ten and they said you could leave at nine twenty five and be there by ten. So at nine twenty I get into I'm head to my car and it says you will get there at ten twenty. It was not
Starting point is 00:03:40 correct because a car accident happened. Ways can't predict a car. I cannot. So that was on me. I imagine it could though. Like imagine it could say we anticipate an accident on the 401 at this time. The algorithm says on average there's this many accidents. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. So I apologize. I was correct. They're going to force accidents to happen. The Google car will just collide in somebody. Hey, we were right again. Okay. And I want you to please tell the listenership what shirt you're wearing, Rob Bruce. Yes. Oh, Rob Bruce. I'm wearing the comedy store.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, yours is the comedy store. I was going to get to you next, but I like this. Rob is closer to home. I've got my nephew, my Dawes shirt, but somebody made this on, we saw it a couple of years ago on Twitter. Somebody had done the done the jaws thing but with Nico on there That's a penguin is because New Jersey is a rival of the Pittsburgh. Yes. I think so. That's right But Nico just broke a record on Saturday They he played for the Devils the New Jersey Devils versus it was the Flyers. They played the stadium series stadium game Yeah, he broke a record for the most saves in an outdoor game. I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:04:42 Did he start that game started and finished and they won. Yeah, he's on fire, right? Wow. Yeah, he made 45. How did the Leafs get him? What's going on here? Not yet, 45 saves. And my sister and my brother-in-law flew down for the stadium. Yeah, she said it was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:04:57 70,000 people at MetLife Stadium. Amazing. So just to remind people, you have a sister, Rob, and your sister has produced a child. Yes, and he is the goal, one of the goalies a produced a child. Yes. And he is the goal. One of the goalies for the New Jersey Devil. And he's kicking ass lately. Kicking. Yeah, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah, it's amazing. OK. And that's sure. If people will see it in the picture, hopefully. But it's like Jaws. It's Jaws. Dawes Dawes. And instead of a shark, there's a penguin. Because the San Jose sharks are not the as much arrival to the New Jersey Devils
Starting point is 00:05:23 as the Pittsburgh Penguin. Exactly. Apparently, I'm explaining these shirts. I'm mansplaining. You're explaining that to me as well. Cause I didn't really know. Okay. So we have a lot of ground to cover. Um, something happened with Bob. We got to talk. We got a lot of ground to cover and we got some, uh, Oh yeah. I was in, uh, yeah. September. Did I go to October? First week of October of last year, I went down to LA for the first time and I had to go to a store. I'd never been, no, we went to Anna. to Anna, we had an Airbnb in Anaheim,
Starting point is 00:05:47 did the Disney thing, Universal Studios, all that stuff. And then also, yeah. I remember that, yeah. And then did the comedy store, did the original room. I had to go into the original room. So famous. Yeah. Just seeing that logo remind like.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I'm such a huge standup fan and sketch comedy fan that I kinda had to go there. And this is the, Paulie Shores. Mom was Mitzi Shore. Yeah, that's right. We call. OK, good stuff. Now we're going to get into all of this. We're going to catch up with you, Bob and you, Robin.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I have some neat clips before we get to hauntingly beautiful jams. But first, we're going to do something off the top like a trigger warning if you don't want to hear us sing. Fast forward like five minutes here, so I'm not going to add much context to this. Well, I guess I can start this jam and then I can set it up in the first minute of this jam. So Robin, Bob, you guys ready? I'm getting my lyrics up right now. All right. I can't believe we're doing this. Okay. This could, I'll fix it in post. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'll fix it in post. Okay. So we're going to let this brew in the background and then I'll bring it up in about a minute. Let's just preface this to say, I know context, except we have a very, very important message for a tremendous FOTM. listening, leave a Fumka. This is for you. Rob, Bruce, Bob, Willette, and I have a message for you. Leave a Fumka, leave a Fumka, paging leave a Fumka. We have something to say for you.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Rob, did you rehearse? Yes, you did. Okay. I didn't rehearse. I thought this would be more fun. If I just sort of did it. Okay. Keep it loose. Okay. Bob, did you rehearse? Yeah. All the way here. We stand in the front representing many.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Okay. Got a little ways to go. You ready? Is it? I took a note that it starts at like 107. Here it Got a little ways to go. You ready? Is it? I took a note that it starts at like 107. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Ready? Hit it. We'll be there for you. These five words we swear to you. When you breathe, we wanna be there for you. We'll be there for you. We live and we die for you. We seal the sun from the sky for you.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Words can't say what love can do. We'll be there for you. You, you, you. Do we have to do it twice? I don't know who we do. I thought we'd talk at this point to discuss if we do it one more time because John comes back. Okay. So a little back, no context, except that's for leave a FAMCA and we'll see how we feel because it comes back. But I was thinking of just a hauntingly beautiful
Starting point is 00:08:37 song. This is something I actually I thought me. I hate this song and I hate this artist. Oh, and yeah. And I used to love this artist. I hate this song. Yeah. And I hate this artist. Oh, and yeah, and I used to love this artist. I hate this artist now. So I thought like this would be something that Levi Femke might appreciate because to sing a song you don't like from an artist you don't like takes like you have to really like like the person you're singing before. Yes. So how do you think we did Rob? Can we do it one more time? I mean, I mean, we could give it another shot. Sure. Okay. There's a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He fits in a lot of words, right? Yeah, I didn't know how to do that. We'd steal the sun from the sky for you. I fucked that up. Okay. I think that's the worst song. Ready? Here we go.
Starting point is 00:09:15 We'll be there for you. These five words we swear to you. When you breathe, we want to be the air for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you.
Starting point is 00:09:23 We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be there for you. We'll be swear to you. When you breathe, we want to be the air for you. We'll be there for you. We live and we die for you. We'll steal the sun from the sky for you. Words can't say what a love can do. We'll be there for you. And then there's a key change. What do you do again? It's going to go higher. there for you. And then there's a key change.
Starting point is 00:09:46 What can you do again? It's going to go higher. Look at you. No, I'm done. I'm tapping out now. Okay. So that is for Lieve, Vamka. Lieve, reach out to us and let us know if that was the worst thing you ever heard or
Starting point is 00:09:57 the best thing. Or the second worst. Or the second worst thing you ever heard. And for everyone else, we humbly apologize, but you got a trigger warning. So. Yeah, you can always skip. You get the 15 second, but about 10 times hit a 10 times. And you might have cleared that. OK, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:10:10 So I have a lot of stuff I want to talk to you about. But first, I want to address something I learned from the most recent episode of Bob's Basement. And I have a couple of jams that I want to play that I heard. I thoroughly enjoyed the most recent episode of Bob's Basement, which was Bob I want to play that I heard I thoroughly enjoyed the most recent episode of Bob's Basement, which was Bob Willett Like kicking out his favorite like Pearl Jam songs for Pearl Jam Radio And you just like ripped that and just dropped it. Yeah on SiriusXM. And it's still good, right? No, no, no, no taking it down. No, uh channel 22 on SiriusXM if you're a subscriber
Starting point is 00:10:39 Uh more it's uh, I think the episode's actually available on demand on the app I'm not sure how long they keep those up for. I did that just before Christmas. Okay. Now in that episode, you open it by saying you had a lot of time on your hands, and I thought that was just after we rescheduled this thing for the Tuesday after Family Day at 10 AM, which I thought was weird. Like I'm like, Oh, Bob can drop by at 10 AM on the Tuesday On the Tuesday after family day like Bob who runs two stations in Kingston, Ontario for chorus Bob what the fuck is going on? I no longer run those radio stations and that's about all I can really say Well, we have questions. Sure. You can ask all the questions you want no answers. Are you okay? Like
Starting point is 00:11:23 Are you having any thoughts of self-harm or anything? We should know about. No, no, no. This is sadly part of that. The as you know, all too well, great talk by the way with your with John pull there. It was great. Did you get a call yet? I feel like I'm getting you again. It's funny. He remembered that we talked. That's a long time ago. Him and I talked. He only had maybe two stations at the time, maybe three. He was he was starting one up, but he was looking for somebody who's more interested in doing sales and I wasn't. I'd say one of the few things I haven't done in radio is sales.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Anyhow, he's a nice guy, smart guy. Thank you for bringing me up to him on that for that interview. No, I'm fine. Is it it never feels great, but it is what it is. As they say, I gotta have a beer. I didn't you know, I can get you a cold one. I didn't know you guys would drink. I'll drink a ten a.m. You kidding me? I got another do afterwards. This is cold enough. Okay, fine. Yeah, the cold basement. Okay, shout out to Great Lakes Brewery. It was fueling Bob's unemployment with a logger. I love the logger. It's my favorite. Yeah. So, um, yeah, I
Starting point is 00:12:25 really, really can't say very much right now, except for that. Uh, I no longer run those two radio stations. No, I didn't think you'd go into details of why you're fired. I just thought we'd okay. So, uh, sorry to hear it. Yeah. It's sorry to hear any, without any answers to the questions. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, we know he got, you got the tap on the shoulder. shoulder like this wasn't you didn't decide to retire Did you this was not my decision? I can say that much Okay, so we've had many a discussion over the past about radio and your you are I consider you a passionate believer in radio Are you a little dismayed? Like do you still believe in radio as you once did or you little jaded?
Starting point is 00:13:02 It's I've been jaded all along. I just put up a good fight. No, it's very hard. The business is really hard to come out swinging about how great it is when you look around and you see so many people losing their jobs. I will say I think John Paul is it or pool John Paul John P. O. L O L of my broadcasting and guys like Doug Kirk at Durham radio who I have worked for before. I think this divestment of radio stations by Bell to smaller companies is about the best thing that could happen. It's going to turn out to be. It's going to turn out
Starting point is 00:13:38 to be really good. I did find it interesting that John Paul. I don't mean you didn't really pick up on it, Mike, or maybe you did, but tell me he said I did or not. He said there was a lot more on the table that they could have taken. There's a lot more like Bell was trying to get rid of more than what they did. He said that during the so maybe I did miss it. So forty five stations were so old. I think more than forty five were available. I think so. Yeah, I just couldn't find by us for all. No, exactly. So look, I think ultimately bell and I you know what? And John's a smart guy, man. He really, if
Starting point is 00:14:11 you haven't listened to that episode, listen to it. Oh, it's really good. He re he said that, you know, basically Bell thought they were getting going to get this and they didn't, you know, and and and I believe that firmly I worked for Bell twice. Now I may end up working for them again. Who knows, but it is hard to stay on the is it bullish side on the which the good, so which is a good one bullish. Yeah, is it why they have the statue of the bull right right. It's hard to stay on the bullish side for an industry that knocks so many people down so often and and so many great talented people. You know, maybe somebody somebody who, one program director of the year.
Starting point is 00:14:46 This is what I said to John Paul. What did I say to John Paul? You haven't heard this episode. No, no, no. Okay, you gotta listen. It's like an hour and it's just. It's a quick one. It's good.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah, it's a good one. And then go right into 1430 because as, who was it again? Jesse Hirsch pointed out, there are good back to back to do the John Paul. Jesse was unbelievable. And then roll into the 1430. You liked Jesse.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And Jesse, yeah, what did you think of Jesse? I love Jesse and I was driving up a couple days ago and I listened to it. And then I went immediately back to your first visit in October to listen to that one. And I loved them both. Yeah, yeah, the first one was a Zoomer and then. He was cute.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Jesse, I would love to meet someday, but his listening to the second episode first and then the first episode, he was curiously more a boo, a buleus. Is that the word on the zoom? Like his personality was much grander, like not present in the thing. He was intimidated by this room, right? This can intimidate many a great person broadcast, but they were great talks. So yeah, loved him. Okay, good. Back to Bob. Yes, Bob. So I said this to John Paul. I'm going to reiterate it now. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:15:44 I don't know anyone with a passion for radio of a Bob Ouellette. Okay, so the man has a passion, but also not only does he have the passion for radio, but he has proven to be very good at his job. What's the award you won recently? So in twenty twenty two, I was the broadcast, broadcast standard, broadcast, right? Broadcast dialogue magazine. Maybe not a good broad.
Starting point is 00:16:08 No, apparently no, I am a good broadcaster. Damn it. No, I 2020 broadcast dialogue magazines, program director of the year for Canada medium market. And last year for 2023, I got runner up. So, okay. So knowing that and knowing you, knowing you quite well now, you you're in my basement every month.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And for a long time now, how many times have you guys been here? That's 25 for two. We were just trying to figure this out. I thought you said we've done more toasts than the... You must have done 13. We started in person like last February, I think. Yeah. Or March.
Starting point is 00:16:38 We might be 12 or 13. Yeah. You might have just taken the lead here. Okay. But okay. So you win those awards, we're the recipient of these. So think about it in 2024, Chorus, which owns many stations across the country. There's no room at chorus entertainment for a Bob Willett, a passionate, hardworking,
Starting point is 00:16:54 successful radio manager guy. There's no room for you. Bob Willett. What does that say about radio in 2024? I'm not sure. And I don't think I'll comment too much on it. You gotta take care of your severance and all that stuff. But me and Rob can talk about you without you not being here. But Rob, tell me, that person I just described, hardworking, honest radio lover who's good at his job and wins awards for how good he is at his job, they tapped him on the shoulder and says,
Starting point is 00:17:21 your services are no longer required here. Here's some money, go back to Toronto and stay there, damn it. They don't know what they're doing. Whoever they are. I mean, the landscape is changing. The media landscape is changing. You sort of talked about this a bit with Jesse as well,
Starting point is 00:17:37 but it does feel like there's things transforming. And this is a larger cultural conversation as well. The things that you do with your podcast. Jesse tried to describe what you are in between. There's two things that he sort of put you in, and I can't remember what they were, but it was a really apt description. So remember, this is the same man
Starting point is 00:17:54 who wrote this really beautiful love letter on his blog, and then I found out AI wrote it. They didn't write it though, it was his assistant. He was assisted. I'm in the Jesse camp for sure. I'm not aware, I'll have to listen to that. It's a thing about Chad GPT. Chad GPT wrote it.
Starting point is 00:18:08 You were so funny though. You're like, I'm offended now that it's a robot. Because I think it's like, it was Bob, when you read this, you're gonna be like, this guy's amazing. And it's all about me and about what Toronto Mike does and what I've been doing for a decade or whatever. And I was really into it. I'm like, and Jesse wrote this and he knows his shit. He's smart guy. And then he tells me chat GPT wrote it and it really did Take the wind out of my sail You know what it is to me like like in the world of music How many people ride on the coattails of auto tune and the on the coattails of digital?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Technology to make themselves better than what they are and as an as a as a tool AI is very exciting Well, yeah, I mean Jesse described it to you as if it was a word processor, which I completely agree with. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the thing is, it's still evolving and it's still morphing in our society that we need to know. You're gonna learn how to recognize bullshit
Starting point is 00:18:55 from a chat GPT because it's gonna sound very generic and flowery at the same time. Well, now that I reread that article about me, it's a little generic and flowery. No, but I think what Jesse was trying to explain, I keep saying his name a thousand times. Yeah, Jesse Yeah, we hope without an eye But but you know what what you put into it is what you get out of it. So you have to provide Oh, it's very much about the prompts. Yes, and the yes and like I've done experiments with chat GPT myself that are mind-blowing
Starting point is 00:19:22 and I saw I treat it also almost like, uh, like an astrological fortune telling sort of thing at times. If there's, there's many things about it that we haven't tapped into yet that are happening, but we'll just use it all for radio. I mean, you have Spotify, Spotify, DJ. Have you tried it yet? Nope. Just try it. Really? I'm afraid of that. Yeah. Although I do love the algorithms that tell me they give me playlist now that the day list, it changes every like four hours. Yeah, I have crazy names and things. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah. I love it. Yeah. It's amazing. I was taking Bob's job in radio. Yeah, that's it's definitely a there's definitely a factor there for that. I want, I mean, just the fact that Spotify exists is affected my industry more than anything else. It's all of us, right? Exactly? But the thing is we have to keep working with it. Like we can't, you can't go backwards. Well, like I've said this a million times, you can't be Metallica fighting Napster. You can't be that.
Starting point is 00:20:12 In the 1920s, when sound film was first coming in, the musicians union went on strike because they're like, if you record the sound onto a film, you're gonna take away all the jobs of all the musicians who stand in front of the screen. And they're like, fuck that. So we're not gonna work anywhere. And of all the musicians who stand in front of the screen. That's right. And they're like, fuck that. Yeah, we're not, we're not going to work anywhere. And of course the musicians, of course they lost. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great analogy. I love that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Bob, uh, you can't say too much about what happened at course, but you can tell us is your goal now to get yet another job in radio? Like you're just going to get back like you're like Charlie Brown and someone's going to hold that. Um, look, I've already, I, I'm, I, I'm not averse to a job in that for look. I've already I'm I'm not averse to a job in radio for sure. Of course, I do love radio and I do love great radio. It's hard to find great radio right now, but I do love great radio. Make it right now. But yes, that's true. I'll be honest. You know what I've been I've been doing for the last year is
Starting point is 00:21:00 I'm now in the second city conservatory program and I have been loving that. I got a show coming up in a couple weeks at the John Candy Box Theater. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm I'm I've always loved performing and my being a program director program manager. You don't get to perform very much, so I'm kind of scratching that itch right now. I like being on stage. I like being in front of people. I like being in front of the mic, not behind the mic. So right now I would not. I am open to all possibilities. Amazing. And John Paul is going to get a gig for you. At least you'll have an opportunity there.
Starting point is 00:21:35 FOTM help each other. You're in a good community here, Bob. We're going to take care of you. Thank you. I know people who own radio stations. So I learned about Bob being fired, not because he personally told me and said, Mike, I got some news I wanted to share with you. No, but I heard it on his very public podcast called Bob's Basement. And I'm listening to you as you were heard on Pearl Jam radio. This is called Wishlist. And the show is called Wishlist. Every they do a five, you do five, give them five songs, explain to why, why you like like the song and you know, you just, and they give you a little, you're kicking out the Pearl Jam Jam, which you actually did on this program,
Starting point is 00:22:10 right? Yes, we have. So you know what you're doing. All right. And then I'm listening and you kicked out this guy rocking in the free world. This specific live version, cause I was also there, Bob, I was there that day and I saw Edge and Bono sitting on the side of the stage. You did too, yeah. Bono comes out later in this one, Rob. Bono comes out and this was the day. So I was buds with Eddie's guitar technician, who we called Yoda.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Oh, that was that day. Can I tell this story? You have told the story on air with me. Did it involve cannabis? Yes. I've told that story told the story on air, with me. Did it involve cannabis? Yes. I've told this story on the air. I can't remember. I guess it's American.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You've told this story on the air. If not, do it now. Bottom line is, Eddie's guitar technician was responsible for... This is pre-legalization, okay? Providing the band with weed. So I don't know. I don't know what to say because.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Statue of limitations is gone, man. It's like 2005. Like I don't feel like admitting to that crime on this point, but a bottom line is I helped possibly allegedly and result. So then I get the tickets for the concert. I saw program for free many times because of this hook, this connection. Oh, by the way, I knew Eddie's guitar technician because he was also Custom's guitar technician. Custom's guitar. All right. Yeah, Custom's gone.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Hey, mister, I really like your daughter. There's the big hit, 2002. Wow. Custom? Custom is his name. Big tall guy, white rapper. I don't know who that is. Not too rappy though. He's more or less rappy than you think. But his name, yeah, he's Canadian. He's from Calgary, I want to say. So his name's Duane LaVauld. And when you go through customs at the airport,
Starting point is 00:23:53 it's in two languages, right? English and French. And the word customs was Duane or something that looked like Duane. So his friends would call him Custom. Oh, there's Bon There's Bono now. Here we go. Here, listen. All the house lights are out.
Starting point is 00:24:12 You were there? I was here. So was he? I was... Well, there was like 18,000 of us. I got chills I wasn't even there. It was amazing. So... And he's got the cowboy hat on and he is Bono-ing hard. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, here he is. Here he is. Here it is. Here it is. Keep on rockin' in the free world. Wait, here was this? 05. This is 05. So part of the deal was, yeah, I get the tickets.
Starting point is 00:24:34 That's fine. But I got a backstage pass to meet Eddie. And Yoda was going to get me at the gate. I had to go to a gate. And he's going to get me. And I'm going to meet Eddie Vedder, OK? This night, I'm meeting Eddie fucking Vedder. Oh my god. I can't tell you when that show wrapped. I can't tell you how excited I was. And then I was told by the guitar technician that Eddie went off of a
Starting point is 00:24:52 bottle of wine with Bono. And basically I basically got, you were ghosted. You got stood up. I got ghosted by Ed Vedder because he'd rather hang with Bono than Boono. And that's what happened. And that's a true story. Okay. You've come closer to meeting Eddie than I have. I've never met Eddie. I held the door. I've never met Eddie either. No, you've I've held the door for Jeffament at least palace. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. So I pulled this for Bob, but I also pulled another song. I want to ask Bob about since we're doing this here. And then we're going to get into hauntingly beautiful time.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So Bob, this is the new Pearl Jam song. And I'm wondering what you think of it? Dark Matter. Dark Matter, their very first title track for an album. They've never had a title track for an album. The first single is the title of the album as well. I like it. The drumming is very reminiscent of Jack Irons when he was with the band.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Matt Cameron's really kind of like zoning in on that that that middle of their career or early issue in their career I guess fourth fifth album era when Jack was the drummer. Yeah drumming is very tribal when you listen to it. I Still haven't really listened to the lyrics very closely. It's a heavier song. I like it. I don't love it I don't love everything they do, but I like it and sometimes it takes time. Yeah, you gotta keep listening Yeah, like they're my favorite band. Yeah. I'm going to always give them that extra shot. Yeah. You know, think about where they're at in their career and their ages and everything. This is a pretty good jam.
Starting point is 00:26:34 It is. I wrote out space for someone else's mistakes. There you go. Thank you, Eddie. I, my favorite lyricist of all time, like he's his lyrics are insane because you talk a lot of again. Again, people go to Bob's Basement. You can hear Bob talking all about this, but you talked about, you know, quoting was it a I quoted a hail hail. Oh, hail hail as the great American poet Edward Vetter said hail hail to the lucky ones. I
Starting point is 00:27:01 refer to those in love. My wedding week, we had just breathe. That's a beautiful song. Yeah, and that's a hauntingly beautiful song. You know what you're right. That actually is. So did you guys have difficulty coming up with your hauntingly beautiful jams? Yes. Yeah, I didn't want to be to I kept going back to a certain era of my life, which I found interesting. to I kept going back to a certain era of my life, which I found interesting. It's kind of late late nineties, early two thousands. Yeah, we'll talk about it in a little bit. I don't know what it was. I all when I de jade,
Starting point is 00:27:36 I often ended the nights with really down tempo stuff and I find a lot like again. We've talked about massive attack before just the yes as well. Perfect example. I would end the night with teardrop or angel or like the troll trip up thing and I find all of those songs hauntingly beautiful too. So the I but I didn't want to lean just on the one era. So I want a little off book for one of them for sure, but the other two are pretty pretty much on point for me. It's a very I mean of course it's subjective beautiful and I was sort of the same way thinking a lot. I don't want it to be like love songs can often be hauntingly beautiful.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah. But is it just this, is it a lyrical thing or is it a musical thing? And it's always a little bit of, I think all of it together, but there's a lot of them. You produce music, you know, so I mean, yeah, I think, I think the whole idea of, like, I think the feel of a song and again,, as a guy who doesn't, can't read, you know, I can read music, or is not a musician, that feel thing, it's that Rick Rubin thing, right? Like Rick Rubin doesn't know, can't play a lick of music, but he has the right fear.
Starting point is 00:28:36 It has to create an atmosphere. So it could be something super simple or super complex, but it doesn't really matter as long as you get a feeling from what it is, Right. So this song though, sorry, I'm going back to this program, uh, basement dwellers on the live stream live.toronto.mike.com. And he's, he says it sounds like audio slave and I hear it. Did you hear a little audio slave out of that? A little bit. Yeah. I mean, I would say audio slaves. I would say audio slave sounds like Pearl Jam. So it all comes back to, uh, I'm going hungry. Head even on the screen right now or what was it? Yeah. Okay. I'm going hungry.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Is my head even on the screen right now or what is it? Yeah, okay. I'll show you. Okay. Okay. I wasn't sure. I had to angle that camera to get us. Fine. Yeah, no, that's fine. I want to say hi. I saw my big fat belly there. Well, now you got time to work on it. Yeah, yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:29:19 You're getting some time in your hands. Okay. So yeah, Temple of Dog. That's what I was reading to those guys. It's always hard to hear a new song from somebody you love though, right? Because it has to enter into the canon of music I remember when I was a kid and I discovered Queen or Elton John and like it was the classic era like the first Queen on my head was a night of the opera right and Then like a year later. They released a day at the races or whatever. It's a wide breadth of sound Yeah, but anybody you have to then welcome this new music
Starting point is 00:29:47 into your brain and go, oh my God, I don't love this as much as what I've listened to a thousand times, but eventually it becomes part of it. It becomes part of it. Yeah, so it always takes some time. Yeah. So you'll love this Pearl Jam song. It's their 12th album.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's amazing. That's so great. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. Now this is just, we're still setting the table here and then we're going to get into the jams if it's your first toast here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So this was a song, I think of this song as a hauntingly beautiful song. I did not kick it. None of us kicked this one out, but we'll listen to a bit of this. So Roberta Flack. And whenever I hear this song, I sort of stop and I listen. This is an interesting thing because I don't know if we've done this before, but in radio we will often, when we're talking about sound coding our songs, we will try to find a quintessential example and go, is it like
Starting point is 00:30:38 so here's a pop song, here's a hip hop song, here's a dance pop song, here's a... and we will try to find that quintessential example of it right and you know, a pop rap song versus just a rap song or what? You know, that was when I, when I was with virgin radio, we did this because you play stuff so much, but you really want to still have that breadth of sound. And this is interesting because we were basically you're establishing that this is the what hauntingly beautiful is to Mike. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you said it earlier. Very subjective. This one, right? This is not spring jams or whatever, which is by the way, the FOTM KOTJ topic. So anyone listening can record
Starting point is 00:31:16 themselves talking about a song that reminds them of spring and then send that audio file, not audio slaves and that audio file to mike at torontomike.com and you will be a part of the next FOTM, KOTJ episode, songs that remind you of spring. I'll do something with off spring just to piss them off. You'll be pissing off all FOTMs throughout the universe here. So I mentioned Basement Dweller thought Audioslave when he heard that Pearl Jam song.
Starting point is 00:31:42 So I'm just gonna shout out people on the live stream here on a Tuesday Moose grumpy. We love Moose grumpy says she uses Spotify DJ all the time. Oh, yeah Interesting. So I gotta try it cuz I'm just loving all the playlists. Well, yeah, the guy's pretty cool They got the AI voice guy. Yes. Oh my god. That's the whole thing comes on Hey, it'll say hey, we know you've been listening to these ones lately Oh take a listen, you know, and then we're gonna introduce you to some new ones. You like, yeah, it'd be like, you like this song.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So maybe what about this? That's interesting. Okay, I'll change the sound. There's a new name in the chat. So, you know, obviously we welcome new people to come out and hear us live, live.torontomike.com. You just never know when it's gonna happen because I do a shitty job of promoting it in public.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I just sort of tell the FOTM group on WhatsApp, okay? But there is somebody I'll shout out. I hope I say the last name right. Amanda Villasec. Villasecci. Maybe she'll correct me, but Amanda says, "'I love that there's no copyright worries "'on this platform.'"
Starting point is 00:32:40 And this is a reminder to newbies that the reason live.torontomike.com exists is for that precise reason. We can't go on Facebook or YouTube and play Roberta Flack. No. And we're going to play a lot more, but we can do it here. So thank you Ian service for helping me to set that. And then Jeremy Hopkins, who's on the live stream points out, this is a cover. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And Rob, what do you know about that? Well, I was actually gonna recommend as soon as you started the song I've been listening to a show on BBC It's been on for several years now called soul music and they pick they each episode They're like half-hour episodes and BBC is so good at these things. They talk about a song they talk about like the composition of the song and People's feelings about the song and there's an episode about this from like eight years ago. And if you go to BBC sounds, which is their app, which is fantastic. And listen for the episode of soul music.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I actually just typed in and it's series number 23. And it's so haunting because they talk about this song, the writer, you and the call who wrote it and how Roberto, it was written for Peggy Seeger. Like all these things you'll learn about the song. And it's because I don't think I knew this was a cover. Yeah. And now I feel silly. Okay, that's what the show does.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We educate, but I want to say hello to Dan J. Who's on the live stream saying welcome to Amanda. What a nice community. And everybody else who's got a green ball. So if you're not logged in, I won't be able to say hello to you. But if you are logged in, I can say hi to Hey Ref. Hey Ref is also known as Alan.
Starting point is 00:34:04 This is like romper room now. I see. Canada Kev is here. Soref is also known as Alan. This is like Rompel Room now. Canada Kev is here. So smoke him if you got him. Canada Kev is here. I've already said hello to Dan Jay and Jeremy Hopkins and Leslie is here. And earlier I said I wanted some French toast because you guys were late because of the traffic, romantic traffic. And thank you that Leslie was gonna make me some French toast. I think I might take her up on this offer. So Leslie, just let me know when and where and I'm going to check out your French toast. That sounds like a euphemism, but a little maple syrup maybe. All right. So hello to everybody watching us live. We're going to get to the hauntingly
Starting point is 00:34:38 beautiful jams right now, but I pulled a little clip. I want to play for Rob Proust because, you know, I'm a big fan of like the history of CF and Why and somebody on these mics right now worked at CF and why that's Bob Willett He produced humble and Fred's morning show on 102.1 the edge Here is a little a couple of people you'll know I'll play it and tell me who they are You're not either I've only talked to you once tonight you yeah like you're so selfish you talking to you on the radio. Pardon? I'm always talking to you on the radio. You're not either. I've only talked to you once tonight. You're so selfish. You want to do your own little thing at home, clean house and stuff like that. I'm doing it for you, honey.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Oh, I know that dear. But I mean, here I showed you a great weekend. I took you to Paris. And Sunday, Saturday night. Yeah, okay. I give up. I took you to Paris and then we went over to, uh, to the, after the Spoons concert party with the Spooners and the Spoonettes. Ah! We just had an all about good time. We did, we did, you know, I mean, it's rare to see all Spoons... At once. ...in that condition.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wow. Well, here comes the smut. Oh, yeah. That's right. I mean, you've got some good stuff for truth or makeup. Oh, I'm loaded this week. Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And then we went back to Sandy Horne's house and, uh, and- Brunched out? And brunched out. Well, we didn't brunch out till we slept first. It came back to French toast there again there. Okay. Who is Rob Proust? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Former keyboardist for spoons. Yep. AKA these spoons. It doesn't matter. Gore doesn't care. We don't care. Whose voices were that from CF and why that was the live road job in Beverly Hills. Very good here. And I just thought it was fun that here we are back in the mid eighties. I used to call them all the time. I'm like, like I would, I would go and host shows sometimes on the air, and I would play guest DJ, and that was always fun to actually spin records and do all those things as well. And we had a real great adventure. Actually, it's like the anniversary's coming up,
Starting point is 00:36:35 like 40 years ago, another friend of ours posted some pictures on Facebook. We went to visit and interview Duran Duran when they were in Toronto in 84, when they were filming their reflex video. Oh yes, I may believe garden Yeah and Earl and Bev and I and their other friend Jackie from from CFNY when we went up to their hotel room because Earl was
Starting point is 00:36:51 gonna interview Simon and Nick and I tagged along and it was like an adventure in Beatlemania like getting into the Four Seasons And getting up to their floor and there were cops on every floor and getting into their suite finally And I took all these pictures and I didn't take one picture of myself with any of them. I just got pictures of everybody. I was the only one that brought an Instamatic camera. So I'm taking pictures of them with Simon and with John. And it was really cool. Okay, that's a rookie mistake.
Starting point is 00:37:12 John Gallagher took a photo with every famous person he's ever met. Really? Like he's always had one of those Instamatic cameras. Everybody. But his LCD sound system says, I was there. Doesn't matter. I was there.
Starting point is 00:37:23 You were there. We knew you were there. You're one of the spooners. You're not a, oh, spooner also the name of one of those Toronto, either you two watching the women's hockey league. Nope. I have been a little bit actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Spooners are big goal scorer. Yeah. And they sold out ACR or whatever the hell it's called. Scotiabank Arena now 18,000 people. Set a new record. Yeah. You know what? The hockey's good.
Starting point is 00:37:44 The crowds are great. It's cheap to go to. You know what? The hockey's good. The crowds are great. It's cheap to go to. You can go for like 25 bucks at the, uh, mad at me center there. Yeah, it's really cool. It is very cool. And it's a very, it's a promising start in this morning on humble and Fred, I, uh, you know, I produced that show and I was listening. So that's a pro she used to produce that shit. Maybe you want that job back, Bob. Maybe you should talk to Freddie P, but I heard Freddie P cause somebody, I think Howard asked Fred about what he thought of the women's hockey league because yeah, 18,000 plus that's humongous, right?
Starting point is 00:38:08 That's amazing. And Fred said the that it's early. He doesn't know how many tickets were given away, but he says when he tunes in, he says it's it's like, like watching kids play hockey. So Fred is such an old white dude. Jesus Christ. I was like, oh, I watched my kid play hockey. I love Fred, but my god, that was his take and I heard the take and I go, what if what a take that is? Oh, what a absolutely what a Patterson take
Starting point is 00:38:32 look this morning for first of all, I say if I just one one quick thing about that league, they did. I think what they did by not naming the teams was so smart, because I'm gonna name them next year. They will. It's fine, but at least you can get some allegiance because if you came out of the gate and they came and called them like the lady, leave, yeah, or something stupid like that, the WNBA gets the piss taken out of it all the time. They have stupid names like sparks. Their names are bad. Yeah. So they got to do some research and make sure they get these names right. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:39:03 all. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Love your, your take there. All right, Rob. Yeah. You're going to start us off today. I don't know the normal. You always start. Okay. What's and now what's the protocol for haunting the beautiful? Are we going to like listen to songs? Cause these songs sometimes need to like they go, they grow up you. Yeah. And they need to, one of mine is nine minutes. So you don't have to, I of mine is long too. How about this? I agree with you 100% on that notion that you need to let a hauntingly beautiful song
Starting point is 00:39:29 breathe a little bit. So normally I play like 45 seconds. I bring it down. We talk. What if we played more of the song today? Like whatever we can, 25th toast. We did pandemic Friday for 76 episodes. Like fuck it.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It's my show. We'll play more than usual. It doesn't mean we'll play the whole thing. But can I ask you a question before you play the first one? You just did. Oh, did you, I emailed you as I do that with my kids. You're such a nerd. Dad, dad, can I ask you a question? You just did. You're funny. I emailed you an extra thing. Did you get it? Okay. Okay. Bob and Rob, why are your names so similar? We have Stu and Cam. You picked us. I will coin dance. And then who is the original Duke? Who's like, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:07 Oh, John Schneider. John Schneider is like all a racist and homophobic and all that. He's a big Trump, right? Yeah. Okay. That's why you're coin bands. You know, fuck those guys and fuck boot sauce. You're ready for your first hauntingly beautiful.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So I think you should be in charge of your own jam. So Rob, you're like a conductor. Okay. Okay. You would know how to do that. I just watched, oh, did you, I saw the Leonard Bernstein movie Maestro and I quite liked it, but there's like negative, uh, like people don't love this movie overwhelmingly, right? It got nominated for best picture.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I personally, uh, enjoyed it very much and I thought he did a great job. I thought so too. I enjoyed it. Yeah. I loved it. Leonard Bernstein. Yep. That's all I knew about him. So, so you're going to play the first song and then am I going to like, you will just, I'll look at you. Oh, I see.. Lan-er-d, Bernstein! Bernstein, yep. That's all I knew about him, basically. So you're gonna play the first song,
Starting point is 00:40:45 and then am I gonna like- You will just, I'll look at you. Oh, I see, I see. You'll bring it down. Okay, so let's play it. Let's soak it in everybody. Can I say something before you start it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 As a hauntingly beautiful song. Why would I say no to that? I don't know, can I ask you a question? I already did. You're like Morgan. I know, sorry. Whose birthday's on March 15th. She's very excited.
Starting point is 00:41:02 She's gonna be eight years old. Wow. So when I was doing my research for the songs and finding too many songs of my own choices and I happened to cross, I think you're playing the first song that I think sent, I sent first and this is relatively new to me. The song is not new, but the version of the song is new, but it jumped into me as a, as what I would consider that style of a hauntingly beautiful song So you can let's drink this in everybody Came in from a rainy Thursday on the avenue Thought I heard you talking softly I turned on the lights, the TV and the radio
Starting point is 00:42:01 Still I can't escape the ghost of you What has happened to it all? Crazy, some say Where is the life that I recognize? It's gone away But I won't cry for years to think I recognize it's gone away But I won't cry for yesterday There's an ordinary world
Starting point is 00:42:32 Somehow I have to fight And as I try to make my way To the ordinary world I will learn to survive Passion or coincidence won't prompt me I was looking for the hand motion. Sorry man. You said it out loud.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That corgi hit when you looked at me though, how beautiful is that chord? And that's not in the original Duran Duran, right? There's something about that little shift that's so cool. To me, this sits in that style of like the Gary Jules version of Mad World. Very much so, yes. Which is hauntingly beautiful. Which is hauntingly beautiful as well. But to me, it's a little obvious in a way
Starting point is 00:43:26 because we all, it's like, it's an easy way to make a song sound beautiful by doing this. Piano, sparse, but it brings out the beauty of a melody and the beauty of an arrangement. Bring up the reverb on the vocals. All those things. But I just discovered this woman. Who is this?
Starting point is 00:43:41 Her name is Joy Williams. She was a singer with her husband in a band called Civil Wars. Oh, yes, Civil name is Joy Williams. She was the singer with her husband in a band called Civil Wars. Okay, I know this band. And apparently, this just came up in my thing. I was like, oh my God, I love this. The algorithm sent this to me. They said you'll like this, Rob,
Starting point is 00:43:55 and now you're kicking it out on a toast. She collaborates a little bit with Taylor Swift as well. Taylor Swift has done some recording with Joy and her husband. They split up as Civil Wars, but now she's got a solo career going. She released this in like 26, it was on the show Grey's Anatomy in 2014 apparently.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Of course it was. Well yeah, right. I don't watch the show. My sister watches the show obsessively, my niece watches it, my wife is watching it. What's that, Chasing Cars? Or Snow Patrol? Snow Patrol. Snow Patrol. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:20 But then she released it again apparently in 2017 after the inauguration of Mr. Donald Trump. And she was like, we need to fucking bring the world back together. And I feel like I need to let this song out into the world to sort of bring some healing to people. But I just think it's beautiful. He owes a little money.
Starting point is 00:44:34 He's got some shoes to sell. Heard that. That's hauntingly ridiculous. But with your cool shoes on, we should talk about her shoes. Yeah, we should. But this was originally released in 92, Duran Duran. It was off that album,
Starting point is 00:44:44 The Wedding Party or Wedding, whatever it's called. That was kind of like their resurgence It really was early 90s. Yeah, they come back for them During the middle of like grunge blowing up. Yes, and like New Jack swing hip-hop and stuff Yeah, and all of a sudden they come out with this. Yeah, we're like, oh my god. It's Durand-Duran ten years later They're still good. Yeah, a hundred percent big comeback for Durand-Duran I remember it well and you mentioned Mad World by Gary Jules there, and that's from Donnie Darko. And you know who is it, Donnie Darko?
Starting point is 00:45:11 I knew that was coming. That guy. My guest on Friday, Stu fucking Stone. Is he coming on Friday? Friday, yeah. Wow. That's why I moved you and Liza to Thursday. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Because he had to come Friday. By the way, Rob, don't want to bury that lead. Rob Proust, this won't be the only time you'll be in my basement this week. Two times a week. You'll be back here on 2 p.m. on a Thursday. It was always Eliza Fomar who has a huge crush on you. He was her first crush.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Right. Nice. It's gonna be a big fucking episode. Are you gonna dress like you did when she had a crush on you? Put on some eyeliner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, probably not.
Starting point is 00:45:40 You gotta wear a wig. You gotta wear a wig. You need some more hair up there. Right. You got a full head of hair. Yeah, well. Yeah, but it was pretty long. Well, yeah, but not me.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I was much taller with that hair going up. Oh, sure. The best thing Rob Proust has done since we started Toast is let in his hair be natural. I know. That really looks good. Thank you. What were you doing?
Starting point is 00:45:56 It was bleached. I had it bleached. Oh, it was like yellow. You didn't do yellow with me. No, I think. Maybe it was on, you were on Zoom. It was a Zoomer. Yeah, I never really noticed.
Starting point is 00:46:03 First time I saw you though, Mike. Yeah, it was totally bleached. I like it better. Bleach. Whitey blonde. Whitey blonde. Yeah. I mean, I did that when I was a kid
Starting point is 00:46:11 and then a couple of years ago, I did it again for a while. Ready for your bonus jam? Yep. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Are you playing both of the same time or? This kind of shows you what's not hauntingly beautiful.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Like the, and here's another one. It's through Gregorian monks. Everything's hauntingly beautiful when these fucking Gregorian monks do it. But not really though. Like it's a trailer for a social network where they have, is it Creep? And they got the choir doing Creep? You can take any song and let the choir do it. With the drums and everything, it gets a little cheesy.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It's got like an 80s vibe. Yeah, it's not great No, and no, no, I think so too. I agree. That's why I don't like it and the Pavarotti is bad I put that down because Pavarotti used to do these concerts in the 90s with superstars, right? And it was like a charity thing. So Simon came and did ordinary world with them But to me, it's funny Pavarotti made everything sound a little funny It wasn't opera except he did one cool song with you to remember There's the guitar yeah I do I remember Bono also did a cool Frank Sinatra thing under my skin yeah under my skin or whatever that was that red hot I've got you under my skin yes the one for the the AIDS
Starting point is 00:47:37 benefit why not yeah so this is original I just thought I didn't ask for it Robert I thought people might I mean you can't assume everybody knows this Although I don't know if anyone listening to toast does not know We're here to educate no assumptions made here But yeah, Durand-Durand which the first vinyl I ever purchased on my own was Rio by Durand-Durand Really fucking loved it. Yeah, Rio was the first vinyl I bought on my own. That's amazing. But not when it came out. It must have been still later. Pretty much when it came out. What? 83? Yeah, well I'm born in 74. Yeah, so you were close to 10. Okay, yeah. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:17 In 86, I was 10. My first vinyl was the 45 for Crying Over You. Amazing. Platinum Blonde. I was 10 years old. I was in A& Blonde. I was 10 years old. I was in A&A Records. I was actually in Belleville with my grandparents. So you guys, that's amazing. Because my first single was Ray Stevens, The Streak. Nice. The year you were born, Mike.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Come on. It was 74. It was an amazing year. That tells me it was 50 years ago. Yeah, it was. See how good I am? Rob, real talk. Actually, it's not a Rob.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It's a Bob. Bob, I can't tell you apart anymore. Bob, where the fuck is Mark Holmes on Toronto Mike? Yeah, so I reached out to mark. I was supposed to go to his. He has some involvement with this Jean Darlene piano bar, which apparently I think he owns it. I don't know Mark's an interesting guy because he's kind of a little bit. He's he's yeah, he's an interesting guy. I'll say that and I reached out to him because I was gonna go last week or two weekends ago where I was supposed to go with another couple who loved jazz and friends of ours and and then I got
Starting point is 00:49:12 let go from radio, so I just wasn't in the mood to go to a piano bar on Saturday night, so I had reached out to him and he texted me back. No problem, so let me he didn't set me up with free tickets or anything, but which is what I was kind of hoping for. I mean, I worked with the guy for, he owned another bar on college, not the Mod Club, but one in between. Oh wow. And him and I, we did a live to air together on Proud FM. Oh cool. Yeah. Anyways, that's fine. I'll get Mark on. Don't worry. It'll happen. Yeah, because I just had Zappa Costa on, although it hasn't dropped yet.
Starting point is 00:49:46 So if you're wondering how you miss that, because it's a very rare happening where I've saving it for episode four, three, nine. I don't know. Like I don't, you know me. I like, uh, to drop apps as they happen. And then I had this, I painted myself in a corner cause I wanted a special episode 1430. And therefore if I had dropped Zappa cost of 1430 was going to become 1431 because of Dan Schulman's availability. It had to happen a certain time and I wanted Dan Schulman on this episode. So I basically kind of fucked myself with this number nonsense and it means Zappa Costa
Starting point is 00:50:14 got shelved because something had to get shelved. And that was, he's in Edmonton. So I said, I'll shelve the zoom. But now it's like, when do I drop Zappa Costa? Right after this. I don't. Today. Who cares? I like to give episodes if I can. I get my day spotlight. Let them have at least a day. Right. And I, you know, um,
Starting point is 00:50:32 I've got scheduled everything. Let me go to my calendar. Let's work this out and we're going to go right into Bob's jam here. So I'm going to my recording calendar right now. So, yeah. Oh, well maybe I'll start it. You started anytime. anytime. Ralph Ben-Murgy visits tomorrow. So he's in person because I wouldn't let him zoom in. So Ralph Ben-Murgy returns in person. That'll be interesting. And then on Thursday, some guy named Rob Proust drops by with
Starting point is 00:50:54 Liza Fromer to kick out some jams. And then Friday, fucking Stu Stone drops by. Busy, busy. And then I see, what do I got going on Monday? David Common. David Common is the- David Coleman, the host of CBC One right now in the morning show.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Metro Morning. He's the host of Metro Morning. So I'll probably drop Zappa Costa on Tuesday the 27th. David's, yeah, David's got some big shoes to fill there. And I- No, he's not, remember, he's not filling big shoes. Is he not? No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:51:24 He's the guy who's replacing the guy who's filling right. Yeah. So he's mainly alpha is the guy who he he was never very good. He never felt right. Never was comfortable. So it's mainly alpha is was the guy who took over for Mac. All right. Those are the big shoes. S O T and Matt Galloway. So David Common is I still feel in a good spot. He's filling in. He's taken over for the guy who took over for the guy who's got the big fucking shoes. You know, when people said that about, you know, uh, Ted Walsh and when he replaced Wally Crowder and he lasted, right. He lasted 10 years. Yeah. He lasted 10. It's pretty good. Well, Wally went 50. That's all I'm going to say. And where's, where's Mr. Moore at? Where's,
Starting point is 00:51:59 uh, 10 now too. Probably. All right. So thank you, Durand, Durand for the memory playing that one too. Yeah, let's start. We're gonna let this brew. So don't say use the hand. I will. I will. So let's just start it quiet. Rob doesn't take this one starts quite quietly. Okay. And you want us to shut up and listen. I like soaking in these hauntingly beautiful jams. Yeah, if you've started it, here it goes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Nobody would have noticed if you didn't say anything. 3F 5.83 x (-1.00), 3S 4.83 x (-1.00), 3S 4.83 x (-1.00), LSp4 2.70 I can bring it down now. Of course, here on Classical 96. Three is Barber's Adagio for strings. So fucking cultured mom. Yeah. Well, actually, one of my mind blows will tell you why I know this so well.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But yeah, so Samuel Barber, an American composer. Thank you, yes. This was written in like Leonard Bernstein's movie. That's why I know he's a American music guy. Music maker. So yeah, so maybe Mr. Proust could tell us what exactly an adagio is. Generally, it's a movement in a in a larger symphony. Yeah right. It's a slow movement. Yes, like like dodgyos are one of my favorite things of
Starting point is 00:54:52 all time. So he wrote this is this is a quartet. Originally, I don't know if it's a string quartet. Yeah, this is not the string quartet version. No, but this is the is the Vienna Vienna Philharmonic. Yes, or is the one I sent you yes, because I thought it was beautiful and you know he was kind of almost like kind of disregarded a little bit as a composer in back in the day. Now, I get him like this is like the like early nineteen hundreds like we were not talking. He this is in Bach or Beethoven era. You know, this is he's this is
Starting point is 00:55:23 So we're not talking he. This isn't Bach or Beethoven era. You know, this is he's this is this was 1939. Yeah, yeah. 85 years ago only my only and he was making this what we call classical music, but his contemporaries or the people of the time really didn't think much of them. They thought he was too poppy. Yeah, they thought he was too popular sounding and I think is I think this qualifies as hauntingly beautiful mind blow. Okay, so yeah, go for it. Oh, I have a mind blow. Oh, you have a mind blow. Go for it. Canada. Kev says this was in Gallipoli. Yeah, I'm saying that that is the movie
Starting point is 00:55:54 with Mel Gibson. It's like an Australia, right? I feel like I saw that. Okay. He was very young VP and no sales has the mind blow and then we're going to get to your next jam. But this was also kicked out by Stu Stone on Pandemic Friday 24 where the theme was, there are no words. Oh wow. Isn't that amazing? Stu Stone and I on the same wavelength. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Let me hear it. Hold on. Now that I know Stu kicked it out, let me listen again. No, but listen, I bet you it's the other version. It's my mind blow. Okay. VP of Sales, give me more info on that. I bet you it's the other version. It's my mind blow. Okay. VPS sales. Give me more info on that. The man is our natural archivist. So back in the early 2000s, there was a whole movement of the whole chilled CD compilations, chill out chilled.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And there was a classical chill out CD and the classical chill out CD opens with this version of Barbara's Adagio for strings by dance music producer William Orbit orbit. He did those albums of classical right. Yes, so that's what the chilled classical opens with. So this is probably what Stu stoned it because wait till it gets good, but a minute in it. Amazing. Yeah, Amazing yeah Oh, yeah. Yeah. This is right. Yeah. There it goes. Love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's like Sandstorm or whatever. It's a rude. I still hear at the arena. Oh, yeah. Wait for the drop. This is the radio edit. So a little flame. I'm not sure. I'm still here at the arena. Oh, yeah. Wait for the drop. This is the radio edit. So a little flanger there. Turn that filter up.
Starting point is 00:57:53 No words. So maybe I bet you it was this one he would have kicked out. BP is looking into it. All right. Wait for the drop. I don't know if it. All right. Wait for the drop. I don't know if it actually does drop. There it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Pass the ecstasy. Ha ha ha ha. Shadow to Scott Turner. Ha ha ha. Yeah, I see ecstasy Shadow to Scott Turner And I my other mind blow is just another song by William Orbit produced that I think is an underrated William Orbit song, but it's probably one of my favorite songs. It's from the Austin Powers soundtrack Oh beautiful stranger. I he did ray of light that would not made her. Yeah, but for me, this is one of the my like this also William orbit. I just love the vibe of this one compared to ray of light. I just really like this one anyway. It's a great song such a great song.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Really a mind blow. It's just something else. I like these add on song. You know that yeah, I know he did. He did. I like these add-on songs. You know that. Yeah, I know you do. That's why... Bob hasn't embraced them yet. He did just kick out a little thing too. Yeah, he did. But that's the only time we'll get a mind-blow from Bob today. According to Basement Dweller, this is the last good Madonna song. That's his opinion.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Leslieville says, I'm sure the version Bob played is also in another movie because... Oh yeah, it's been in tons of yeah and VP confirms Stu kicked out the original Wow like an original look arrangement. Yeah, it's like this Leslie's never seen Gallipoli, but she's heard that song Oh, yeah, and Jeremy Hopkins says great song here He's prompting me I should ask you if you guys, if you guys know where Chris Shepherd is, either of you guys? Nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Roller ball, flash dance. These are movies that feature your song, Bob. Wow. Flash dance as Barbara Zadagio for strings. Wow. Wow. And roller ball too, actually. Was it in the movie Platoon as well?
Starting point is 01:00:02 Maybe. No, a different classical piece you're thinking of. There's something else. Oh yeah, I can't remember. It's also in Platoon as well? Uh, maybe? Different classical piece you're thinking of. There's something else. Oh yeah, I can't remember. It's also in Platoon! It is? Is it? And Elephant Man.
Starting point is 01:00:12 The Elephant Man. And Manchester by the Sea, which I really liked. Oh yeah. Oh you're right, it is. Barbara Zadagio for sure. It is one of those gorgeous... Somebody has it listed as the saddest song ever. Oh wow're right, it is. Barbers Adagio for sure. It is one of those gorgeous. Somebody has it listed as the saddest song ever. Oh wow, hauntingly sad.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Well you're in a sad place. You guys, you got fired for fuck's sake. How many times in your radio career have you been fired? Not like, oh a Matlead expired or whatever, but you were actually terminated. Three. So I know once was with Humble and Fred when 99.9 said goodbye.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yep. Right? Yep. Once is last week. Yep. What's the third time? When Bell was completing their purchase of Astral Media, I had left Avanov Radio, who I'd been with for nine years, to go be the music director at Virgin Radio here in Toronto.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And I was there a grand total of three months. And as soon as I signed, they were like, oh, the Bell, one hundred day plan. We're gonna have to, you know, now that the merger is done and everything's approved, we're gonna have to get rid of some people. And yeah, so I signed in June. I was gone in November. Wow. Yeah. So third time, I think why Clef John is a song about that gone in November. He'll be gone in November. That's cool. I don't know. Does he go until November? I don't know. It's really, I don't know. It's a big radio hit gone till November. That's cool. I don't know. Does he go until November? I don't know. Really? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:25 It's a big radio hit gone till November. Maybe that's why I don't have a job. January, February, March, April, May. No. Okay. Anyways. Yeah. So three times the third time I have been told that. At some point, it is a little bit, you know, and I know I'm from the world of B2B software sales and every once in a while there would be purges of sorts, cuts and stuff. But soon somebody will say, hey, Bob, you are really trying to kick that football.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Like this really is Charlie Brown trying to kick a football. That's three times in all you produce is results. I think I'm pretty good at my job. Yeah. Well, I just don't want to, you know, OK, I just wondered if you want to maybe security or something. You know, yeah, hey, I am open to all possibilities. There's no security.
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Starting point is 01:02:46 You guys ready for my first hauntingly beautiful jam? Let's do it. Kick it. I'm actually nervous because it's so subjective what's hauntingly beautiful, but this song to me is hauntingly beautiful. I got it. I like it. Bob seal of approval is all I seek. And the animals I've trapped have all become my pets And I'm living off of grass and the drippings from my ceiling It's okay to eat fish, cause they don't have any feelings Something in the way, mmm, mmm, mmm
Starting point is 01:03:59 Something in the way, yeah Something in the way Something in the way, yeah Something in the way Something in the way, yeah You know, I look back at my life at like what, you know, nowadays kids are sort of like calling for songs on Spotify or whatever. And then back in our day, guys, we listened to albums, like the album was everything. And I listened to so many albums I listened to over and over again.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I always want to like, I wish I could have a running ticker. Like how many times did I listen to Nevermind by Nirvana? I just want to know how many times I went through that album. Like it was such a staple. I still love Nevermind by Nirvana. It's the final track, right? Well, Kate, it's listed as a final track. Anyone who has a CD knows it's not, it's not the final track, but it's listed as
Starting point is 01:05:24 the final, we'll discuss that in a moment. So yeah, Something in the Way is from Nirvana's 1991 release, Nevermind. I'm curious, I know what Bob thinks of Nirvana and Nevermind, but I'm going to go to Rob Pruse, a little older than us, has a slightly, you know, Bob and I have similar tastes for 90s rock. But Rob, what did you think of Nirvana when they were making their climb in late 1991? I loved it I didn't I was slow to catch on with the new movements at that time because I was in the world of musical theater grunge right yeah the grunge movement I might have told you before but I have a very specific memory in the summer of 92 I was in Calgary doing Phantom.
Starting point is 01:06:05 And I went to the HMV, because I was like, I want some new music. And I was like, getting back into like pop and discovering new things. And the guy handed me Pearl Jam 10 and said, this is what you need, this is the future. Because I got to Calgary. You're preaching to the choir with ballroom.
Starting point is 01:06:17 I know, I know. I got to Calgary that summer and I went to see Metallica. The day I arrived, they were playing the Saddle Dove. I was like, fuck it, I love the new Metallica album. So I went to see Metallica. It's a black album, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Interesting. So I was getting back into rock and rolling that way, but this guy was like, Pearl Jam is what you need. So I had Pearl Jam, I had Masters of Reality, and a couple other albums, like Things. So I didn't really click in until the singles album came out, the soundtrack. The soundtrack to singles, which is also great.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I was still a little behind what was happening in a way, but I loved it all. Once I got into it and got the sense of it, so I didn't, I wasn't check the singles, which is also great. I was still a little behind what was happening in a way, but I loved it all. Once I got into it and got the sense of it, so I wasn't there in 91. I was not there with it, but it was in the air. Bob and I were, Bob, I'm assuming you and I were both glued to 102.1 in 1991. You know what, I wasn't quite yet, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:07:00 No, in 91, my favorite bands would have been Digital Underground and Belle Biv De Vvo. Those were my favorite bands in 91. Still in CFTR. I was on CFTR still. Yeah. Yeah. Right up until they did their finals. Top 68 of the of 91 or 92, I think maybe for 91 over they flipped. Uh, 93, I think. I think so. Yeah. No, I was, you know, I know Scott Metcalf was here. I've been Mike Apple and Richard Southern for the 30th anniversary last year. That's right. Funny though, when you
Starting point is 01:07:24 think of that time period, when the shift was happening in the music scene, and you think of pop music, like if I think of 91, the songs that come into my head, you do yours, I'm gonna go like Extreme More Than Words, Paula Abdul, whatever her hits were. Right? All that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So like what you listen to. Yeah, for me it would have been Poison, Bellaville De Vaux, Digital Underground, Humpty Dance, Bust A Move, you know, all that stuff. Young MC. Yeah, it all I had for me would have been poisoned, well, the bit of the whole digital underground Humpty dance bust a move. You know all that stuff you see. Yeah, it takes two was a little earlier overjoyed pain, but you know what's it? I don't want to take a quick story of I'm getting back to Nirvana. Yeah, go back to Nirvana. Have you seen butch Vig talk about specifically recording that song?
Starting point is 01:08:04 I have seen this, but I've seen the butcher. Yes, the double, the double vocals and yeah. And how he actually literally just had, they had, he, he mic'd Kurt up in the sound, not in the sound booth, but in the actual control room. Yeah. Yeah. And Kurt was lying on a couch because he wanted it because Kurt wanted it to be so soft. And so he literally had the mic in his hand. I think he probably just had an SM 58, like a cheap mic, not cheap mic, it's a SM 58, it's a solid mic.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But it like, it's a, he said he had to do it. He turned the mic so high up just so he could whisper some of the, all those. It is hauntingly beautiful. And I love that. I love, actually I love every song on Nevermind, but fucking love that, which is listed as a final track. So I'll get in a minute in a minute We'll talk about how it's not actually the final track. But firstly, uh, this song doesn't chart
Starting point is 01:08:51 It's not released as a single so you can't chart but they changed the rules for charting and this song is featured heavily in the Batman Have you guys seen the Batman not to be confused of all the other Batman, the Batman I saw it, Robert, who's the guy from Twilight? Right. Robert Pattinson. Right. That's him. Okay. So I actually thoroughly enjoyed the Batman, but this song is like throughout as it's so hauntingly beautiful in the Batman. So it does chart when that happens. So that's like, yeah, so it does chart, I think 2022, it eventually does do quite well on certain digital tracks, whatever. But, uh, that's not the first time I heard something in the way in a movie because I was at the theater with my first wife to see a little film called Jerry Maguire and Jer, Jer, that was it. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Okay. Cause it's funny. Cause the actor's name is Jerry O'Connell. Of course we know from my secret identity. Shout out to Jeff, coat mr. Jeff coat okay so I'm watching Jerry O'Connell he's in Jerry Maguire with Tom Cruise and Renee Zellweger and we all know this song and this is what Jerry O'Connell does out of nowhere in the middle of this movie. Good man, how was yours? Good. Hey man, what size are you? Twelve and a half. Let me grab a couple pairs of them new shoes by the door. Kush, Matt, we have a decision to make. San Diego just came in with a last minute scenario. It's big. Well, he's got to go number one.
Starting point is 01:10:26 No, he still goes number one, but San Diego wants to trade out with Denver and they want him bad. What happened to Denver? This stuff tends to happen night before a draft. People get crazy. Let me tell you something. San Diego, Matt, San Diego is crazy. Whatever it is, like 20 seconds of Jerry O'Connell playing something in the way on his guitar. There you go.
Starting point is 01:10:47 But okay, let's talk about Last Jam. So it's the 12th song in Nevermind, Something in the Way. It's listed as the final song. But all of us who used to play albums know this was big. I remember this being awesome and everywhere in the early 90s. You'd get your disc, be it Stone Temple Pilots or Pearl Jam or whatever. And then I don't know. The last song would play. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Oh, there's a hauntingly beautiful song. Yeah. The hidden track on, uh, on jagged little pill, jagged little pill. Right. I went to your house. Yes. Yeah. Oh, that's a good hauntingly beautiful song.
Starting point is 01:11:18 All these albums we'd spin and then the last song would finish and then there'd be a period of time. I can't remember. I think it's like 10 minutes I was trying to Google what it is but 10 minutes after something in the way you and I and Everybody who was listening to the Nevermind CD would hear this I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 01:11:48 I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie
Starting point is 01:12:04 I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie I just think we remember more than one occasion. It kind of scares the shit. You hear something in the way and then it's kind of a sleep. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely good. Jesus and then you'd hear endless. Nam yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:29 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jagged Little Pill is hauntingly beautiful. It's got that echo-y. It's, it's, I think it's a acapella. I think it's just her singing. Yeah. I don't remember what it, oh, it's really good. I remember the song cause I remember it going by.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Yeah, went to, yeah. Yeah. Oh man. I'm enjoying this. Okay. So we've only kicked out one song each. Let me bring this down. Let's go back to Rob Cruz. Well, you, you were late. So that's what I'm saying here. Okay. Rob, any words to say before I kick out your second hauntingly beautiful song? No, you can just kick it because this one goes on. And you're the conductor again, I'm looking at you. What is 10 minutes song? Is that a Hammond? An organ?
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm gonna be a man. I'm going after you I'm so cold, I'm so cold I'm so cold, I'm so cold You claim to be the only sun Turn around It's you It's you
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's you It's you It's you It goes on and on and on, but it sets a mood and it draws you in and it's hauntingly beautiful. So this is the band Sigur Rós from Iceland and I have a very specific memory with this song. When I first heard it, it's like, you know, you hear a song and you're like, I remember exactly where I was. I was on tour with the musical Mamma Mia and we were in Los Angeles and I was living in Santa Monica and there was a radio station called KCRW. Morning it becomes eclectic.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Nick Harcourt was the host. So I would listen to him every morning for like an hour and he would play this new music from England and imported stuff and whatever. 2001 this was. So spring of 2001. I was running on the beach in Santa Monica. And the first time I ever heard this song
Starting point is 01:17:39 was running on the beach. Same day I discovered Coldplay for the first time as well. But this music in my headphones, I was like, what is this? And it came out in 99 was released in America in 2001. So we were all introduced to them around that time. So it was a new thing. It was on the vanilla sky soundtrack. Speaking of Tom Cruise, once again. Yeah. And the Magnolia soundtrack is excellent yeah Amy man exactly but this music all their music is like this like it's gorgeous and and he sings with
Starting point is 01:18:10 that high falsetto and he doesn't he apparently sings Icelandic but he also mixes like sort of nonsense kind of stuff as well yeah gibberish let's say yeah and yeah the song has a title that you can't really pronounce it's like Sven Ge Englar which means sleep. It's like a play on sleepwalkers and sleep angels. Let's hear Tarzan Dan try to say that. I have a cigarette story. You do.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I do. So I saw cigarettes for the first time last year, two years ago. Yeah, at the Meridian Center, whatever it is now, the old center where they have a string quartet with them as well. They had a full thing. He so yeah, yeah, Yonzi. So Yonzi plays his guitar with a bow a lot. But here's how I got into that show and got to meet Yonzi afterwards. The Art Gallery of Ontario, in which my wife is the director of exhibitions, purchased a Yonzi piece, and it's an audio. It's a it's not up right now, a own z piece and it's an
Starting point is 01:19:05 audio. It's a it's not up right now, but if it's when it's up, I highly recommend going. It's an audio piece. It takes up a whole room and it's got sounds and all these different things and so my wife got to she had lunch with you own z and yeah and then we got invited. We got VIP, so there we go. We go a bunch of us from the AGO go to see Cigar Ross and they blow you away live. It's you think you think it might be a little bore. I get chills when I like it's that music that you soon as soon as I'm listed as I'm like I know this first of all, it reminded me a
Starting point is 01:19:43 little bit of the end of smashing pumpkins drown on the single soundtrack. Right. It's got that sounds that vibe right up. Love ground. Yeah, it's amazing song, but then I was like, wait, I and then I leaned over to you. I'm like, is this sick or us? It's amazing. And so I'll just tell you one quick little story. So we get in to this backstage area. They've got a couple like it's not even back. It's like a cafeteria area so we can all meet yonzi and the stage guy or like their road manager brings like a USB speaker out and says so what's too quiet? Somebody put some
Starting point is 01:20:17 music on and they all look at me and I'm like I am not cool enough to pick music for Cigar Ross after party. Yeah, no, I was like I am not cool enough for that and I put something on. I don't even remember what I put on. And he goes, this is strange. Like I put some modern sign rust. I put on like modern jazz or something. I did something weird. I don't know what I went to anyways. So it's just my interaction with Yonzi drinking a plastic cup of wine. This is strange. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Yeah. But this is beautiful. The very it is actually hauntingly beautiful. Good choice, Rob. Now you heard this song. You said you were in Santa Monica. Yeah, is ever clear Santa Monica, a hauntingly beautiful gym. I don't know. You don't even know it. I don't even know. You wouldn't know it. If I heard it, I might go. Yeah, but I think he might know it. I might know it, but not fucking head. It's a big live beside the ocean. Oh, that song. Yeah, it's not. He knows it, but it's not haunting. I
Starting point is 01:21:03 know. I just wanted to work Santa Monica into the conversation because he said Santa Monica. And that was my first time. Yeah. Which is actually also very good. It's okay. 604 records. There you go. The Nickelback. That's right. The Nickelback. But everything Sigur Rosas is hauntingly beautiful. Everything they do is hauntingly beautiful. This is technically their second album, but it was the first album we were all interested in. You know what bands I confuse in my mind is theory of a dead man and default. Yeah, yeah, you would just like you would get three doors down and Creed and that's all down radio song. What do you call Mr. Donald Trump? Did the three
Starting point is 01:21:33 doors down play his inauguration? Oh really? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Default and theory of a dead. I look, I know the guys in theory of a dead man. I've interviewed them. They're very nice guys, but their music is so just they're not. They're not gonna make this. There's nothing. They're very nice guys, but their music is so just they're not. They're not going to make this. There's nothing. They're not going to make this episode. Absolutely fine. I just, they don't know that for me, they don't make music that resonates right anyways. Okay, so six oh four records. So shout out to six or four records. I think default and default theory of a dead man are kind of part of that nickel back crew,
Starting point is 01:22:04 although nickel back guys, you know, not from BC. They're from Alberta. Yeah where my wife is right now She is right now in Alberta on terry Canada is she at the Scotties tournament of hearts because it's in Calgary right now I've never seen a anything curling that was outside of the Olympics. You guys like curling? I love curling. You do? I'm glad you like. Mike Rogowski. I watch all the time. He loves curling.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yeah. Okay. And I'm actually going to a Learn to Curl Clinic at the East York Curling Club in a couple of weeks. So it's on me. Okay. But Rob, do you ever tune in curling? Not, I don't. But you're not a sports guy.
Starting point is 01:22:37 You don't watch sports at all though. Well, I watch hockey. You watch hockey because you're invested in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is cool. Okay, so we gotta move on because we were playing longer cuts from the album, which makes it a... Oh, what's going on here?
Starting point is 01:22:47 Is that like a... Oh, let's see. I'm going to song a little heartbeat. OK. Kind of like Huey Lewis in the news, right? Wow. Yes. That might be the first time ever in the history of mankind
Starting point is 01:22:58 that anybody has made a reference to Sigur Ros and Huey Lewis in the same time. Respect. That man had a ver... Come on. They gave him a, they gave him Prince's part, right? From the, we are the world. I love Huey Lewis. I've seen Huey Lewis. That's one of my, am I wrong? Was that a cow heart? At the time I heard on the radio that heart of rock and roll has the heartbeat at the beginning. I heard it was a cow heart. You heard that I never actually
Starting point is 01:23:20 bothered to check because I just hear these things as a kid and I just believe them to be truly that. So somebody would tell me if that's true or not. I love this song, Bob. Well, that's about to kick out one of my favorite songs of all time. And I did kick it out for a toast episode. We did an LGBTQ plus episode of a pandemic Friday where we kicked out our favorite songs by LGBTQ plus artists. And I kicked out this one. You ready, Bob? Any words to say before I kick it? No, just used to end a lot of, uh, and a lot of my nights at the Zen lounge,
Starting point is 01:23:47 uh, or at Volvin underground with the song. Just don't ask me to name another song by this artist. Breathe it in and breathe it out and pass it on It's almost out, we're so creative, so much more We're high above, but on the floor It's not a habit, there's no more pain I'm in heaven, I'm a god I'm everywhere, I feel so hot It's not a habit, it's cool, I feel alive
Starting point is 01:25:23 If you don't have it, you're on the other side I'm not a addict, maybe that's a lie Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, I I want to hear this drop fill. Oh, I made it faster. That is the pride of Antwerp, Belgium, K's choice, and you would be hard pressed to name another song by them outside of Europe. They do have some other borderline most popular. This is their most popular life far 1997. There are nothing else they did ever even made the radio in. It was a huge song on on the Edge 102 in 97. It would have been Edge 102. It's vaguely familiar to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:27 So if you were in the old rock radio, you couldn't make it. Anyways, I fucking I loved it, Bob. It's top five. It hit number five on the modern rock charts in the States. I would imagine it did at least that here in Canada as well, because it was very, very popular. You know, they actually opened for Alanis Morissette on the Jagged Little Pill Tour in certain dates. They got to know each other on some European dates. very, very popular. You know, they actually opened for Alanis more set on
Starting point is 01:27:45 the Jagged Little Piltor in certain dates. They got to know each other on some European dates, some festivals, and she picked them actually to open for just a hunt for me, like just a hauntingly beautiful song. Belgium, they're from Belgium. It's so funny because the name I, I remember somebody saying to me, you need to listen to case choice and the name. Oh, I always remember the name because I never really listened to them. Right. That's cool. choice yeah and the name. Oh, I always remember the name because I never really listen to them right. That's cool. Yeah case choice. They've been aware they're still around. They still make music.
Starting point is 01:28:11 They really don't have any other hits at all, but you know yeah, there's no other. They have two singles. The other said the follow up single was everything for free, which I kind of vaguely remember. It went to number twenty eight. it was everything for free, which I kind of vaguely remember it went to number twenty eight. Yeah, they have a they have a stu one, two, three, four, five, six, seven studio albums, so they're making a living, making music and her voice is
Starting point is 01:28:37 phenomenal. Really cool. Yeah, I love it. Nice. I love it. I love that song. I love it too. Bobby my like so ninety seven is also the year I started dating my wife, so though like there's a lot of music from her addicted to her. Yeah, it was a very BS when you're twenty one yeah, that's right. Yeah, so I might she was like fourteen right Elvis. She was turning eighteen. She was just she was just seventeen actually when we started dating and then yeah so much like the William orbit yeah thing where you know you have this hauntingly beautiful track. You can make a dance hit out of it, So that's what I think this is. I think that's the only one I gave you for this right. Yeah. What are these guys names
Starting point is 01:29:10 again? I I've got to find that. Yeah, so these guys so this is like in a club like they are as a period don't forget to send me your jams. And it's almost out We're so creative So much more high above But on the floor it's not a heaven to move I feel alive If you don't have going in a sec, but so this is a psycho punks. They're called this as this Randy. Here it goes, I think it goes again.
Starting point is 01:30:20 But this is like a there goes. That's cool. Yeah. Something about haunting again but this is like a there goes that's cool yeah something about haunting vocals that they like making big old big banger room big room bangers out of here we go 2.5 million views on YouTube I'm not a man. That's boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:30:47 So there you go. Psycho punks? Also, I find the lyrical content of that song is hauntingly beautiful, too. Absolutely. And it reminds me of other hauntingly beautiful addiction songs, be it Noodle and the Damaged Done or Alice in Ch or, uh, uh, Alison chains too with lane Staley has a couple of songs that are hauntingly beautiful. He talks about his addiction issues. Oh, for sure. Oh my gosh. Uh,
Starting point is 01:31:14 mad season. There's the mad season. Uh, big hit the river of the seed and he goes to see mad seasons at heart. It would be pardon me. Beautiful. So my pain is self chosen. That's the, that Drugs? My pain is self-chosen, that's the line they get to. That's it, my pain is self-chosen. My pain is self-chosen. The drugs inspire hauntingly beautiful melodies. Yes. You can maybe think of the verb for one second,
Starting point is 01:31:32 the drugs don't work. Right? Right, okay, yeah. Which is sort of hauntingly beautiful as well. You know what, a lot of hauntingly beautiful songs out there, we're paying tribute to a small selection here, nine of them. Good choices, Robbie, good choices, Bobby.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Good choices, Mikey. Well, you don't know, I've only kicked out one. We'll see, yeah. You don't know, save that break. Well, so far. Well, let me get to it here. Nine of them. Good choices. Robbie. Good choices. Bobby. Good choices. Mikey. Well, you don't know. I've only kicked the one you don't know. Save that break. Well, let me get to it here. All right. This is actually the first song when I, when I thought of hauntingly beautiful song, this is the first song I thought of. You're ready for a hauntingly beautiful song. Do it. So it's going to be on my list too. Really? Oh, well it is. Yeah yeah first song I thought of really that's amazing the whole album Massey star but this one particularly listen to lover by case choice by Taylor Swift it's the exact same song yeah lover bite it's really good she she's inspired by
Starting point is 01:32:21 the best. Yup. No, it's so close. You get a little misguided angel vibe too off it. Yeah, a little bit. Sure. It's also haunting the beautiful. Shout out to Margot Simmons and the Cowboy Junkies and the Trinity Sessions too. All that stuff's haunting the beautiful. Yeah. And we did, well, I'm not going to say what we didn't pick because you guys aren't done yet. And the cover of Sweetly beautiful. Yeah. And we did, well, I'm not gonna say what we didn't pick is you guys aren't done yet.
Starting point is 01:33:25 And the cover of Sweet Jane too. Yeah. This piano in here that's so beautiful too, I never really noticed. It's hauntingly beautiful. Bade into you. Strange you never knew. It's an ambiance, right? You create this atmosphere.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Wow, okay, Mazzy Star. Shout out to Everclear again. He may live beside the ocean. Do you know where this band is from? I'm gonna say Santa Monica? Really? Rob, do you think this band could possibly be from Santa Monica? Mazzy Star. I guess. I was thinking they were British, actually.
Starting point is 01:34:07 I have no idea. They're from Santa Monica! Are they? Otherwise, my setup doesn't make fucking sense. See, that's why Bob's in radio. Exactly. Okay, so the voice you're hearing, Hope Sandoval. Okay, so what can I say?
Starting point is 01:34:24 This is Fade Into You. This is the big jam sort of similar to not an addict. It's tough. Although I did pull one, but really it is tough for the average alt rock aficionado to name a second Mazzy Star album. I'm sure I'll get hate mail from people like how can I not know? But Bob, you love music, you love fade into you. Do you know another Mazzy Star? No, no, no, I'm not. The whole album though is good, right? Yeah, I know people who are Mazzy Star fans.
Starting point is 01:34:51 In fact, a guy who used to be the music director at EZ Rock when I was there as the program director, he loved Mazzy Star. But he was the only one I knew. First thing, yeah, I think you're rolling on. Can I recommend a Hope's Net of all? She released her beautiful solo album in 2001? Called Bavarian fruitbread. Okay. Okay. I only remember that because when you said her name was like, oh my god
Starting point is 01:35:13 I forgot she had a beautiful solo album. Yeah, so this is okay. So this is the lyrics here This is a hope's end of all in boys and lyrics in the composed composition. Here is David Roback Who also produced the song and if you're looking at the charts this would be number three on the US Billboard modern rock tracks in 1994. It is the only Mazzy Star single to appear on the Billboard Hot 100 where it peaked at number 44. Yeah you know it's a big hit in Iceland as you can imagine number three in Iceland so wow okay The ice the Icelandic people make some pretty moody music David Roback he passed away four years ago
Starting point is 01:35:52 Yeah, when you said that name it was familiar to me all of a sudden I remember Wow I Just went to Wikipedia. I know we look at a rolling stone charts differently now But it was on the top of the the 500 greatest songs of all time lists that they put together a few years back this song appeared on that so you got to be a pretty damn good song to make their top 500 I would say okay so would name another Mazzy Star I couldn't think of another Mazzy Star song because I'm not a I don't actually listen to the album the way I listen to Nevermind but then I did kind of Google around what was the next biggest hit, if you will. They didn't have anything else on the Billboard Hot 100,
Starting point is 01:36:28 but what's the next biggest hit? Does this ring a bell for anybody? I'm just going to play it. Still Is it on the same album? I believe so. So I'm Googling stuff to hear more Mazzy Star that I should know and I'm listening to this song, which is Into Dust and I put it on a couple of times late last night. So I'm alone here. I have kids here, but they're asleep and I'm alone at night because Monica's in Alberta and I'm listening to this and you know what?
Starting point is 01:37:42 I decided this is also a hauntingly beautiful song. Yeah, it really is. The whole album is like this right? I think so, it's got this vibe. It's called Into Dust everybody so if you want to hear more hauntingly beautiful Mazzy Star there's a lot more out there. Okay I can. Hello darkness my old friend.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Absolutely, absolutely there's a formula here. Okay. Now we have a final hauntingly beautiful, uh, song by former keyboardist for honeymoon, sweet and spoons. His name is Rob Bruce. He'll be back here on Thursday. It's a 2 p.m. recording. So Rob, you'll have a beer with me on Thursday. I say Tuesday, Tuesday, Thursday, Thursday. So Thursday you're back because you can't be back today. So will'll have a beer with me on Thursday. Did I say Tuesday? Tuesday. Thursday. Today's Tuesday. So Thursday you're back because you can't be back today. So will you have a Great Lakes beer with me on Thursday?
Starting point is 01:38:28 Absolutely. At least one. Okay. So I'll have one with you on Thursday. I just finished a coffee and it was 10 a.m. so I'm like, I'm not going to do a beer now. But we're going to do the beer on Thursday. Thank you to Great Lakes Brewery, proud sponsors of this program. Palma Pasta.
Starting point is 01:38:42 We love our Palma Pasta. They're going to feed us at TMLX 15, June 27th, June 27th from six to nine PM. I'm canceling that fucking TMLX 15. If Rob Proust is not a 10, it's already in my calendar. I'm just letting you know if you cancel on me, I'm canceling the special day. Well, if you say so. Okay. I also would like to let people know they can go to recyclemyelectronics.ca and find out where they can drop off their old electronics, their cables, their obsolete cables, their broken devices that they don't use anymore. Drop it off somewhere where it can be properly
Starting point is 01:39:17 recycled. Recyclemyelectronics.ca. And I will just tease, March 1st, I have a exciting new partner, new sponsor of the program I will be unveiling. So the next host will be talking about something exciting I think. It's gonna be cool. Alright anything Rob you want to say before I kick out your third jam? Well as you said for your last one this was the first song that came into my head when we discussed Hauntingly Beautiful. Immediately my brain went to this so that's all I'll say. There was a boy, But very wise was he. And then one day, a magic day, He passed my way and while we spoke of many things, fools and kings, this he said to me. is just to love and be loved in return. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Very far over land and sea.
Starting point is 01:41:48 A little shy and sad of eye, But very wise was he. Very wise was he. And then one day, a magic this he said to me, The greatest thing you'll ever learn love and be loved in return. Right. You could let the whole thing play because it's because it's a pop song, it's beautiful. Didn't wanna say anything in that because it is constantly shifting. The music is constantly changing.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Can you imagine in 1948, they were all in the fucking recording studio together? All of them doing it live, live to tape. So there's Frank with, I don't know how many singers that is, the Jeff Alexander vocal group that he arranged for it. And so there's Frank at one, probably all around one mic, because it for it. And so there's Frank at one, probably all around one mic, because it's 1948. Not the Jason Alexander singers. Nope. That was the Vandalee singers. But the scene was angry that
Starting point is 01:43:37 day, my friends. That's right. But the whole thing, like, so the story was that, uh, so of course, Nat King Cole is a Nat King Cole song. song. Yeah. It was not his song. It was written by a dude named Eden Obers. Who's crazy. Yeah, he was a hippie in the 1930s and the 40s and he was a homeless in LA and stuff. Believed in like these strange philosophies and stuff. Yeah, yeah, he was super, and he's super interesting.
Starting point is 01:43:57 He made really cool music too, but he went to Nat's manager and was like, I got this song for Nat to do. And you know. But you chose the Frank version. Yeah, I chose Frank's version because it's acapella. It's only a vocal group. There's no music. So in the 40s, the musicians union were always going
Starting point is 01:44:11 on strike. We talked about this earlier. And there was something to do with payment of royalties for musicians on recordings and singles. And the radio business was getting more and more popular. This was before rock and roll and everything. But they were on strike and Frank had to make another record and they're like, we got this arrangement,
Starting point is 01:44:25 but we can't use an orchestra. So he's like, fuck it, we'll just do it with the vocals. So they basically took all the string parts and they, I mean, this is the legend of it, right? So you print the legend. They took all- We don't print the legend on this show. I knew you were gonna go to that.
Starting point is 01:44:38 That's why I did it. Well, you set me up. I set you up. And so without an orchestra, he was like, let's just do it with the voices. And so this was the version. And a couple other people copied Frank and it's basically the same, but to me it's haunting
Starting point is 01:44:49 because it's just voices. I love it. If Frank sang like that all the time, he would definitely be my favorite crooner by far. I'm a Dean guy. I love Dean. I love Dean Martin, but early Frank is better. Early, not Dean McDermott.
Starting point is 01:45:02 No, not Dean McDermott. Oh, your friend, Mary-Ju E? Uh, we were chatting. Who are we talking about? It was the other day we were on zoom just like a few days ago. Yeah. And I mentioned you're going to be here on Tuesday and she goes, Oh, remember to tell the story of how he ate a hot dog at six AM and spilt mustard everywhere. All right. I don't recall that at all, but all right. Sorry. Yeah. That's Mary. Do you to, you remember when you ate a hot dog. Let's talk about how her kid gave me chicken pox as an adult.
Starting point is 01:45:28 How about that? That's a good Lola. Yes. Lola. Uh, yeah. Uh, but yeah. So if you're early Frank, it's just that guy was, I was mesmerized by his tone was so good. But if you like this, go backwards even further. Cause when he used to sing with Tommy Dorsey orchestra and Glenn Miller orchestra, when he was like 21 or something, it's like this. Okay. Okay. I will. Yeah. Just beautiful. Any truth to the story I heard that Rick Flair heard this song and was inspired to become nature boy. You're really
Starting point is 01:45:57 trying today. I don't know anything about that. Uh, no, cause Rick Flair is more of a stu stone wrestling. Wrestling nickname is the nature boy. But he wasn't the first cause buddy Rogers was also the nature boy. If you really, if you really want to mark out, if you really want to mark out, but he never mentioned it's a wrestling, it's a wrestling ref. Yes, that's a rest. I'm good at wrestling stuff. If we keep it for just like 84 and 88, they use a spoon's tune for the opening of wrestling at some point. Did you know that? No, they used our song, smiling in winter, like on Hamilton, there was some
Starting point is 01:46:27 wrestling. Billy red lions. Yeah. Yeah. They use our tune. Frank Tunney productions. Okay. That's a fun fact right there. That was beautiful. I, uh, I don't know why. Uh, I could never fully appreciate the greatness that is Frank's an Entra and I hear him there and that is a hauntingly beautiful song. No doubt about it.
Starting point is 01:46:48 But like, I definitely don't have the reverence for him that like I hear a Bob Lillett speak of. And I don't know what I'm missing. Maybe it's just too old fashioned. It's too old fashioned. You know me, I'm a modern man, Rob. You are, you are. You really are.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Man. But Bob, I don't know, like, you know. I love the rap pack era in raw. You know, really are man. But Bob, I don't know. Like, um, I, I love the, I love the rat pack era in general. Like I love those, uh, those days with like, I like Sammy Davis and swingy stuff. Yeah. I love that. So I recall the rat pack. That's what I just said. The right pack of rats. They were called the rat pack. You're just repeating things. Are you sure you like the, uh, the brat pack we grew up? Yes. Which was a takeoff. Yes. Um, yeah, I, I, I love deep Martin stuff from beginning because I'm an Elvis guy too. Elvis loved deep. So yeah, right. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Listen, nature boy. The other thing with that nature boy, this is the sound of those vocals. It reminds me of like old films too. It sounds like they come from a Disney cartoon or something. It's kind of like that, whoo. And then I was thinking like, oh, it's almost like the pheromone thing that they're in. Right. In good vibrations or something. It's just got that sound and like it was in the air, which is haunting.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yeah. But anyways, nature boy is a beautiful haunting song. But you know, I can't listen to that, uh, that instrument because it, I get PTSD from, uh, Dr. Who. Do you really really coming on after polka dot door on TV Ontario do you know can't do it okay so on my pants here one more jam for Bob will let Bob again no condolences nobody died here but we are sorry that you lost your job because we all know what that's well most of us
Starting point is 01:48:24 know what that's like and it's a shitty. It's fucking shitty. Yeah. See, I thank you to everybody who's in the chat of the live to Toronto Mike. I try to sign in. I don't know my password. I'm not getting the password.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Service can help you. Yeah. Yeah. In service reset me. It's bob.wleditgmail.com. Just reset me please. Reset that. I've been trying to, I haven't been able to. Everybody was in the chat was saying nice things.
Starting point is 01:48:44 So thank you very much. That was very kind of all of you. It's just, you know, not knowing where that, you know, I haven't been able to. I was there. Everybody was in the chat was saying nice things. So thank you very much. That is very kind of all of you. It's just, you know, not knowing where they, you know, you'll get a little severance or whatever, who knows, but not too much because you haven't been there that long. So I'm doing the math. You're not going to be taking care of like, uh, some of these old timers are begging for the acts, but you don't know exactly where that next paycheck is coming from.
Starting point is 01:48:59 And that's an uneasy feeling. That is an anxious feeling. And now I have it secondhand and I don't like it. Yeah, it's a, it's never fun. Like I said, it's never fun to not be wanted. Yeah. You know, so we're better off without you, Bob. Will let you're better off without me. So you just said, oh, I'm quoting chorus entertainment. Great. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I'm not firing you. I don't pay you. You don't pay me. You want, do you, does the, we'll let family need a palma pasta lasagna. I will take an old lasagna today for sure. Yeah. That's a dinner. Consider it done. Thank you. Consider it done. All right. All right. My final jam. Yeah. Let's go back to Iceland. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think so, but at the top. From the time of the mountain Every morning I walk towards the edge
Starting point is 01:50:33 And throw little things up Like car parts, bottles and cutlery Whatever I find Lying in my knees It's become a habit A way to start the day I go through all this Before you wake up
Starting point is 01:51:01 So I can feel happier To be safe again with you I go through all this before you wake me up So I can feel happier to be safe again with you It's real early morning No one is away I'm back at my clear Still throwing things out I listen to the sounds from me On the way down
Starting point is 01:52:02 I para with my eyes till they crash I eyes be closed or open had to keep I go through all this I love that. I wonder if my eyes would be closed or open if I throw myself off this this cliff into the sea. Nineteen ninety fives be York release post that's hyper ballad and it is one of the craziest songs I've ever heard in my life and I it is I listen to this song a lot. It's amazing. I, this, you know, there are certain songs that just, I, that are on playlists that I make and this comes up all the time.
Starting point is 01:52:55 Maps by Yeah Yeah Yeah is another one. Another one of my favorites. That I listen to. I just listen to these songs all the time. This is one of them. I love you. This is just this album. It's magical. It is so crazy good. It's also like
Starting point is 01:53:08 again, ninety five is much music still matters and the video for it's oh so quiet comes out and that's really where everybody we get it. Yeah, it's totally a cover. Yeah, it's a I didn't know it till like five like five minutes ago. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I didn't know what it was. The big hit and that video was huge't know it. It was a big hit. And that video was huge. And that's what most, let's face it. Most people's introduction to Bjork was that song. And the rest of the album opens with army of me. I like, it's just such a heavy hitting song. One of the producers on the album, by the way, speaking of all the trip hop stuff, tricky, tricky is one of the
Starting point is 01:53:42 producers on this album. She works with such great people to collaborate, right? She's so, have you ever seen her live? She's unbelievable. I saw her over at- They were the same way twice. No, I saw her over at the, at Olympic Island, at center, like on center Island. She had the, she was with a full orchestra and fireworks.
Starting point is 01:53:59 And it was- Did you call it Olympic Island? It's called- Cause we've never hosted an Olympics. No, there's an Olympic Island there. There's- I thought it was called center Island even. I've no, yeah, center Island. It's because we've never hosted an Olympics. No, there's an Olympic Island there. There's kind of was called center Island even. I've no yeah center Island's point and there's center Island. Yeah, there's also an it's actually technically an island called Olympic Island right across from center Island. You think you'd have to host an Olympics to call something Olympic
Starting point is 01:54:18 Island. Okay. Okay. We're going to find Island in Toronto. Here we go. Interesting. I should know these things. I believe you. I've never doubted you. I'm just surprised. So yeah. So yeah. Center Island. And then you got, yeah, that's really cool. So over there, we Olympic Island. That's where, uh, actually that is exactly where, uh, Noel Gallagher got pushed over by the guy on the stage. Really? It's on Olympic Island. Yeah. When they did those VFES over there, is it safe to say Iceland is a hauntingly beautiful? I would say so much. Yeah, you've been, you said right. I've been, I've never been. I
Starting point is 01:54:50 know people who have been and are obsessed with it. They love it there. I would imagine. Yeah, it is a hauntingly beautiful country. Bjork is a hauntingly beautiful artist in all ways. When I was playing that Sinatra song, I was thinking of her album Vesper teen. Oh, remember? Yes, of course all vocals, right? Even the drums were all done with voices. Like, there was a guy, like a beatboxer guy, and she would sample his voice. So the whole album is human.
Starting point is 01:55:14 I got to, this is a hauntingly beautiful episode. We played some beautiful songs and I can't be ruining it by talking about the guy from Police Academy, the beatboxing guy. You remember Jones? Was it Jones? I think they called him Jones. I can't. He was good. I was gonna go deeper than that. Academy, the beat boxing, you know, Jones, was it Jones? They called him Jones.
Starting point is 01:55:26 I can't. He was he was good. I was going to go deeper than that. I was going to talk about Red Rock C, who was DJ Fat Boys. No, Red Rock. Red Rock C was Will Smith was Fresh Prince and DJ Jesse Jeff's beatboxer. Red Rock. Red Rock. Did you ever see a movie called The Disorderly?
Starting point is 01:55:44 Of course, I guess I don't know. I don't know. Of course. Of course, Bob. Bob's favorite movie of all time. It was at the time. It would have been, yeah. Oh, you have a mind blow. I do. I don't know what it is though.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Okay, I'll remind you. Oh, I think it's just a cover. Oh, a nice cover, Robin. Yes, because I know you like nice covers. Oh, yes. Let me go back. Yeah, if you love a cover of a song, you can add it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:05 On the mountain, right at the top. So it's Robin, not to be confused with Robin S, right? Oh, that's right. This is Robin. It is Robin S. Robin S. Yes, this is Robin, Swedish Robin, who, by the way, her albums, those three albums she did with Dancing on My Own
Starting point is 01:56:24 are phenomenal. Some of the best pop music, I think, ever written. So this is her on some show and Bjork's in the audience. Like it's like a tribute to her. So this is Robin doing this song in front of her. I love both of these artists. This is a live take. Come on, happy.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Oh, wait to start the day. I go through all this. Before you wake up. So I can feel happy. So I can feel happier, to be safe again with you. I go through all this before you wake up. So I can feel happier, to be safe again with you. She's like Swedish or something Swedish. She is amazing. There's a body.
Starting point is 01:57:29 It's called the body talk trilogy she released in the 2000s early girl 2010s maybe in which she does dancing on my own. And there's a bunch of them. They are. It's perfect pop to me. Perfect pop music. The Brits are the Swedes. They're pretty good. Call your girlfriend was her. Call your me. Perfect pop music. Amazing. The Brits, they're the Swedes. They're pretty good at pop music.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Call Your Girlfriend was her song. Call Your Girlfriend, that's it. Yes. Call Your Girlfriend, Dancing On My Own. There were three big hits off those. So good. Do you guys remember the Chappelle show bit where Tupac Shakur, they're listening to new Tupac,
Starting point is 01:57:59 because he had a lot of albums that came out after he died. But the song would be alluding to things that just happened. And he'd be like, this was recorded in 1994. And at the end, Dave Chappelle is dancing with a woman. And then Tupac's like, Dave Chappelle, that's not your wife. You should go home. Go home to your wife. Wait, do you remember this?
Starting point is 01:58:18 I do remember this, yes. But why? Because what did you just say? Did you say go home? No, dancing on my own. Yeah, why that triggered the number two bug is talking to Dave Shabella in real time, but to tag has been dead for over a decade or whatever. Okay. And it's hauntingly beautiful Bjork hauntingly and Robin doing it here.
Starting point is 01:58:39 Also hauntingly well done guys. Well done. I really enjoyed your hauntingly beautiful songs. Now I have one to go here and I'm going let it breathe okay so I hope you don't have to be anywhere in the next little while here and I mentioned the first song I thought of of hauntingly beautiful gems was Mazzy Star fade into you but then as I sat with it this is actually my favorite most hauntingly beautiful song of my life and I'll explain why and here we go everybody. I have done it again I have been here many times before
Starting point is 01:59:35 Hurt myself again today And the worst part is there's no one else to blame, Wrap me up Unfold me I am small And needy Warm me up And breathe me I have lost myself again Lost myself and I am going to be found yet I think that I might break Lost myself again
Starting point is 02:00:56 And I feel unsafe In my friend I'm safe in my friend Hold me, hold me up I'm full of me, I need you I need you I need you I need you
Starting point is 02:01:39 I need you I need you Come for me, wrap me up Come for me, I am small And need a warning one I don't even want to fade it down. Okay, this is Sia's Breathe Me from 2004. Wow, beautiful. I believe this would be like for the typical music lover. This is the first time they hear Sia. This is very early Sia 2004. It's 20 years ago. I know 20 years ago. I wouldn't have said Sia's been around for 20 years as an artist
Starting point is 02:02:37 Maybe as a writer because I know she was did a lot of writing. Right. So I did not know this song until I tuned in for the series I did not know this song until I tuned in for the series finale of one of my very favorite shows of all time Six Feet Under did anyone on this on this episode ever see Six Feet Under? I've never watched it I apologize. You don't have to why would you apologize for not watching? Because I hear it's a great show It's one of those shows I'm supposed to have watched I second that apology and I have the same sentiment. No apology required, okay I did just recently go through it for a second time because Monica had never seen it
Starting point is 02:03:08 and it hit me just as hard the second time and it hit me very hard the first time. It is my second favorite show of all time. Next two. My first is The Wire, Six Feet Under's two and The Sopranos is three, if you're curious. Okay, and all three I recently revisited. So in the series finale, this song is used during a, uh, just a tremendous montage. It's actually the best series finale I've ever watched.
Starting point is 02:03:30 And it really gets you. If you love that show and you watch the finale, you'll never forget. See is, uh, breathe me. And I was parodied wonderfully. I just want to shout out Flanders is ladder from the Simpsons. ladder from the Simpsons because they do this thing they play that song and of course it triggers all of us who've seen the series finale of six feet under and then we get to see how every character on the Simpsons dies it is amazing so you get to see the death of every single character you love on the Simpsons and I highly recommend if you have Disney Plus go find Flanders is lander ladder sorry Flanders is it's hard to say that Flanders is Ladder. It's hard to say that. Flanders' Ladder. Right. Okay. So go and watch the montage at the end
Starting point is 02:04:09 when you get to hear that song by Sia. So this is a fun fact about Sia, who has been around for 20 years now. Can you guys name... I found this interesting. She's only had one number one US Billboard Hot 100 hit. She's only going to number one US Billboard, what's it called, the US Billboard Hot 100 hit. She's only going to number one one time. Who can guess which Sia song went to number one? Chandelier. Chandelier's a great guess.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Do you have a guess, Rob? I don't, that would have been my guess. That would have been Chandelier, yeah. Chandelier. Unbreakable? No, those are great guesses though. No, only one song went to number one on the US Billboard Hot 100, and it was not those songs.
Starting point is 02:04:48 It was this song, right? Yeah, Sean Appal. Sean Appal! It's a certain club I used to DJ at. This was huge. I mean, great song. Come on, come on. Turn the radio on. Amazing. Great song. It's a good song. And I won't be long.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Got to do my hair. Put my makeup on. It's bright and high. And I won't be long. Chandelier's a better song. Till I hit the guns. Ba-da-bam. Hit the guns.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Ba-da-bam. Ba-da-bam. Ba-da-bam. I got all I need. No, I ain't got cash. I ain't got cash. But I got you, baby. Just you and me.
Starting point is 02:05:23 Baby, I don't need dollar bills to have fun tonight It is a fun song, it's a good song. Cheap Thrills is the name of this song and I believe this is the remix. I believe, from what I understand, and I'm not the biggest fan, but I believe they made a remix of Cheap Thrills and it features Sean Paul.
Starting point is 02:05:41 And that's the big number one hit that we're listening to right now that Bob used to kick out when he was DJing. So shout out to Sia from Australia and Six Feet Under if you haven't seen it, if you have access to Crave. I highly recommend it. It is a wonderful and Breathe Me is used so effectively that after you watch the series finale of Six Feet Under you will agree that is a hauntingly beautiful song. Rob, Bob, that was fun. It was a good one. It was an epic episode.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Epic is right. Let me see where we're at time. We typically hit a two hour, We're over two. We're not much over though. Okay. 2.06. That's not so bad.
Starting point is 02:06:23 Right now. It's not so bad. Thanks for everybody who actually lasted through it all. Well, and it's good that we did this hauntingly beautiful in the daytime because the nighttime we'd be tired and we like a male depressed. Yeah. We need some vitamin D there. A little melancholic, right? Yeah. We should come up with something happier for the next toast. Yeah. Do you have any ideas or do we need to workshop this offline? I go off to workshop this offline. Unless you got something Rob. I don't.
Starting point is 02:06:43 I got lots of time. I got all the time in the world. Hey, if anybody needs a DJ, let me know. I could still DJ working songs, working songs, songs about work. Jeremy Hopkins says, uh, amazing episode. So we have somebody in Amanda who is a new name again, put some fire emojis in the chat. Oh, thank you. Yeah. So thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you, Rob, for making the trip. I'm going to see you Thursday. Thursday. That's amazing. I can't wait. Have we ever seen each other that close together before? No, it's always been about a month maybe. And Bob, uh, hang in there, buddy. That's all. Yeah. There's a new career in on the horizon for you. And it's all good.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Oh, it's not all good. You got fired. These things happen. These things happen. So good, man. It's all good, man. And that brings us to the end of our 1433rd show. 1433. You can follow me on Twitter and blue sky. I'm at Toronto Mike. Rob Bruce is at Rob Bruce X. I don't think Bob's on Blue sky, but he's on Twitter. Yep, and he's on Instagram Yep, you can find all that. Yeah, all a little place rhymes of Gillette if you have a job offer for him Yeah, you can find them much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. That's palma pasta That's recycle my electronics. That's Raymond James Canada and Ridley funeraleral Home.
Starting point is 02:08:06 See you all tomorrow when my guest is Ralph Ben-Murgy, live in the studio. See you all then. Yeah, the wind is cold with the smell of snow, won't stay today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away. Because everything is rolling in gray. Well, I've been told that there's a soccer ball on every day.
Starting point is 02:08:43 But I wonder who Yeah, I wonder who Maybe the one who doesn't realize There's a thousand shades of gray Cause I know that's true Yes, I do I know it's true, yeah I know it's true How much, know it's true How about you?
Starting point is 02:09:06 They're picking up trash and they're putting down rogues

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