Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST26: Toronto Mike'd #1462

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

In this 26th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out songs they dig from groups they're not supposed to dig. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Don't bring me down. And in the middle of the song, they say my name every time. Don't bring me down. Pruse. Don't bring me down. Pruse. Love it. There's a bathroom on the right.

I'd say that's a Monda green that you're describing right now. Is that what that is? A Monda green is when you hear the lyrics differently. Oh, that's not different though. That's a bathroom on the right. I'd say that's a Monda green that you're describing right now. Is that what that is? A Monda green is when you hear the lyrics differently. Oh, that's not different though. That's what it is. Cause Jeff Lynn called me one day. He's like, do you mind if I use your name? Of course you did.

I don't believe you. Okay. Bob O'Lett, how are you doing? I'm well, thank you. How are you gentlemen? Thank you for, let's make this Good Friday a great Friday. Shall we? The best is Friday.

Yes. The question I have for you, Bob, is are you experiencing and I mean this as a friend, any, uh, not working anxiety? Like I feel like there's an anxiety that comes from not knowing where the next paycheck comes from. Okay. So since the last we met, um, I, uh, I, I got some things settled with, uh, my former company and I'm, I've been taken care of a little bit further into what they had initially wanted. And, uh, so I took care of that. So I've got some runway, not like golden parachute runway, but I got, I got some runway. You know, here's to be honest,

here's the honest. The anxiety comes from realizing after 25 plus years in one industry, I might be done with it. It might be done with me. That's scary. And I might, and I'm 48 years old and and I'm gonna have to change gears here and do something completely different because the industry is just changing and I don't. I don't think I'm wanted in it, so I I don't know. We'll see so that the anxiety comes from wow. Okay. Oh, you know what? I'll be completely honest. I applied for a job, C H F I for swing announcer. I didn't, I didn't even, I didn't get an interview and I was like, I don't even get an interview and that

sounds kind of full of myself, I guess, but I was like, I kind of been doing this for a while and I got, I got the auto reply like two weeks later. Hey, thanks for trying. Oh geez. Yeah. So it was like that, that part was like, wow, okay. I'm maybe I'm too old for CMI two are too young for CIG. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just not what they're looking for. And that's fine. But so that made that has really led me to be going, well, that might just be it. You know, Mr. Mr. Radio advocate here, that might be it for me. You know, I feel like second hand hand anxiety for you, but I will tell you in my forties, I completely re invented my career like completely. You did. And I

gotta say, six years into this thing, it was the best thing I ever did. So I mean, if that's any optimism, it's always appreciate it's always persistence in your pursuits as well. Right? Yeah. And you don't have to give up on audio content and creativity. You just got to give up on terrestrial radio. I don't even.

Yeah. I don't, I don't see where I fit in it right now. And I don't know if anybody in that industry sees me fitting into it. So that's fine. I won't become one of those bitter ex radio guys who just shits on radio all the time, like humble and friend like humble and friend. I won't do that because I do think it serves a purpose and I, you know, and it bought my house so I can't, you know, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna complain and there's different. I mean, it's like me as a musician.

Right. You know, like I did Mamma Mia for 14 years on Broadway. Wow. Like a steady weird thing for a musician to do. Yeah. Where you've got like pension and you show up and you play a show. And we all knew it was gonna end at some point. Right.

But you'd never think about it. Right. And low and behold, of course, when they announced the closing, we were like, of course, it's no surprise, but holy shit. What now? Like, oh, now. What next? Here's reality again. Right. Um, and it's, I think it's probably similar kind of thing. Like there's, there are readjustments and you realize, and for me, I had to like realize, well, what do I want to pursue and how much do I want to pursue

certain avenues of musical careers and things? And, and time goes on and it shifts. And I think for you, it's the same thing. If you've done a thing for so long, it's a, it's a chance for you to remember Rob yeah he was the greatest champion of the format so whenever I would just gently wonder if it was a sun setting industry yeah Bob had radios back like that you know radio didn't have Bob's back in return though right right right you know it is what it is as they say uh you know just to just put it put as many um you know stereotypical things to say on it. Yeah, clear. Thank you. I couldn't even come up the word. That's why ch ch f I wasn't exactly you know it, but thank you for having you know anxiety on my

behalf. I don't like it. I'm not. You know what? I'm very lucky. My wife is gainfully employed and I've actually I've also I have a voice agent now I've started reading like sending in for spots and and I had a call back for a cartoon already and you're doing your Improv shit and yeah, like there's different things happening. Also don't bury that lead like what cartoon? I didn't get I don't think I got it. But within I've been Watching a cartoon of your kids and the Bob Willett's voice is like the voice of the gerbil or some well this I would have been Jimbo and it was a show called Super Jets, which is kind of like Paw Patrol, but they're jets instead of dogs. Oh wow. And anyways, it was, but

I had, I, I've only been doing it at that point. I was doing it like two weeks and I got a call back. So that's good. I haven't booked yet, but we're working on it and I'm glad your wife's not on strike, right? Your wife is management. So she is not on strike at the AGO because I had a guest over yesterday, Sean William Clark, and we kicked out the FOTM jam. So he kicked out his 10 favorite songs performed by FOTMs and Rob, you're gonna love this episode,

Bob, you'll love it too. But I know Rob actually listens. So Rob, you're gonna enjoy Sean William Clark. I don't have time, man. I got kids. I drive a lot. You drive a lot. Yeah. Right. Uh, and could remind me to come back to the Ridley funeral home episode from yesterday, Rob. Okay. But the Sean William Clark is currently on strike. He works for the whatever part

of the art gallery of Ontario that's on strike. He's Opsu. Yeah. Opsu. So he's on strike. He was telling me about life on the picket line. Does he know my wife? I didn't ask about your wife, but I asked about Jim Shedu. Yeah. Opsu. So he's on strike. He was telling me about life on the picket line. Does he know my wife? I didn't ask him what your wife, but I asked about Jim Shedden. Yeah. And I don't, I got the feeling maybe he doesn't know cause he's the guy. Like you plan the events, like I guess whoever has the events, he's the guy who's going to set it up. Like he's kind of, uh, he's part of the event side. Right. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.

So he probably doesn't necessarily know the people in the galleries. Right. Right. Right. But I'm so well connected to these people like Jim Shedden and Mrs. Bob and I'm glad that doesn't even know her name. I don't know her name. Laura. Laura. Okay. But you don't drop her name on the reg here. So I don't think I think I've heard. We just call her Mrs. Bob. I call her the director of exhibitions at the AGO and I say yes, ma'am. No, ma'am. I ride those coattails. Of course. Well, a smart man. Okay. So, uh, so we're all rooting for you, Bob. Thank you. And I appreciate that. Thank you so much. Have you, cause I remember when Rob Johnston hit a similar point in his career, he got a job with the post office. Like would you consider that kind of a radical change? Well, what I'm, uh, right now, uh, my plan, I kind of saw this coming a while ago. I think I told you guys like last year I started doing a second city improv classes and now I'm in the middle of the conservatory program and I'm going to do it hopefully. And I kind of saw this coming a while ago. I think I told you guys like last year, I started doing a second city improv classes and now I'm in the middle of the conservatory program. Cool.

And I'm going to do hopefully, and I've been, I actually spoke to the artistic director about becoming a teacher, becoming an instructor there. Wow. That won't happen until I finish conservatory. You have to finish school before you come to teaching. I have to finish school. But I think that they're, you know what you talk about that,

they're also hiring a customer service rep. I might go and take tickets at second city. Why not? And yeah. And that means your door put in the door and my classes and keep doing the voiceover. And I audition, I honestly send out, I send out 10 tapes a week right now.

That's amazing. So it's, you know what? I think I may end up. And they're actually tapes like cassettes. Yeah, exactly. That's why I'm not getting the jobs. It's weird. I put them on that actually.

That was a radio joke, the DAT joke. No, not everyone. No, you know what a dad I still have a dad. You have a dad machine. I don't have a machine. I have a lot of tapes. Yeah. Yeah. So if you're talking about that kind of change, absolutely. Like I may just, you know, I'm going to go work. I'm going to answer phones and take tickets at second city. Hopefully there. It's like American beauty, right? There's the the you know, I know we've canceled Kevin's. But what a great role in a pretty damn great movie, I think, and that he says, you know, he was working at the fast food restaurant because he wanted a job with less responsibility or whatever, but he had a great, great time.

Yeah. Picking up high school girls. Okay. Yeah. That's a tough one to use as a reference. Part of good picking up the high school girl. Yeah. Yeah.

I want to just talk about Rob Pruess's shirt for a minute. We did talk about your haircut before I pressed record and you got, you said you used to wear it really short. Well, I've, I normally I shave it myself. Like I, in the last few years, it's been a little bit longer and I've, I grow it and then I get sick of it. Then I cut it and I was almost going to shave it myself again. Like I do like, like a two or like, you know, summertime, I'd love it cause they have no

choice. Like I like waking up and being like, I don't have to think about it. So it's that time of year for me again. I'd like having no response. That's a tight cut. Like that's- If I miss as long, I did it like a week and a half ago. Wow.

So you do a two all around. So like when I get my- Well this one I went to a dude to do it for him. But he still basically did it for me. Gave you a little bit. Yeah, yeah. A little shaping, but yeah. I usually get a, during the winter,

I get a two on the sides, a fade. uh, in the summer I get a one on the side. And I do my, like when I get into it yourself, it's so easy, you know? I don't trust myself. You don't know. It's like, it's like trimming a hedge. You've got to just feel around, you know, you're like, you gotta keep going over and over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But nice. Hey, I'm trying to, uh, help Andy see you Rob on the live stream. Cause no, it's okay. I don't think really there's anywhere for you to go Bob, but so you are blocking your

microphones block here. What about that? I could come back a bit. Okay. So here is that better? Yes, much better. But really? Cause it's much now we see more Rob and less Bob. All right. That's fine. You don't need me. It's kinda yeah, we do. My, my, my, my beard is all unruly right now. So, but don't say I would don't, uh, you know, try to help out the, uh, the, the people.torontomike.com. So I think that's better. Andy, let me know in the live stream if this is better. And thanks to everybody at live.torontomike.com. Uh, that would be, uh, Hey ref and, uh, J ho and Canada, Kev and Leslie. And of course, uh, Andy's there and a bunch of other people not logged in here. I see Rob. Bruce is there. I'm there. Rob on the live stream.

That's wild to me. So I want to talk about your t-shirt for a minute. Yeah, you made a comment about it because you're too young to know the banana split. Well this, I was, so Bob and I similar vintage and I want to know what he thinks but one of the signs that, oh this person's ten years older than me is the banana split. So tell us about, you know, what the banana, because I feel like when you're talking about the banana splits it's a bit like Bob and I talking about Transformers or something. For sure.

Well, it was a TV show, right? In the late sixties, into the probably the very early seventies. But I loved watching them on television. The very first concert I ever saw was the banana splits at the C&E. They- The grandstand.

The grandstand. And it's one of those really dim memories where I wasn't sure that it actually happened. But I have this memory of when it was the half grandstand like during, during like shows. And then I was searching on these news sites to find that in 1970, there was like a circus show and they were like the half time,

the Banana Splits were the half time in this other show. And they just came up because they didn't have anything to do, they were dudes in costumes. And they came out in their little car and they rode around for like 10 minutes and sang some songs. And the very first song I ever played on the piano when I was five was the theme from the Banana Splits.

So I have this weird connection to it. Which is still in your repertoire. It sure is, that's right. I've heard you do it by. And then subsequently even more full circle, 20, how many years later when I moved to New York City, I met the guy who wrote the song, his name was Mark Barkan,

and he wrote the theme for the Banana Splits. And I wrote some songs with him. And so it was a weird thing. So yeah, they've always just been a part of my life since I was like four years old. Was this a Saturday morning show? It was, I think it was Saturday morning. Yeah, like a kids thing.

It was like a cropped. Like Scooby Doo? Like an HR puff and stuff kind of thing where they would. That's another one that we missed. Yeah, yeah. I know. It was my childhood.

You know, whenever I see, I always think about the McDonald's Playland guys, like the Frye guys and Grimace and that, but sort of cut from some. But it's our generational dividing point for sure because those Saturday morning things for me in the early 70s for sure were important to me is like whatever your childhood you watch Davey and Goliath I sure did okay I had that because they started in like the 50s right Jesus wouldn't do that it was like a real Easter show unless we forget most of our channels didn't have the cartoons on Sunday

So if you wanted kids programming you had to go to commander Tom, that's right And he always kicked out the Davy and go ahead for sure. Yeah. Yeah, do you? When I see this this room like that sure and I got to admit I'm with Mike It was never part of my life. It reminds me of the great space coaster. Oh, yeah Sure, sure. She's like cuz the great space coaster. Oh yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Cause the great space coaster. Yeah. No, good news is good. Good news. It's all interrelated because they would come out and like do their live action thing. And it was more based on like the monkeys, like it's,

you follow the evolution of stuff. But then these were guys, they were supposed to, he was like Mickey Dolan's, he was the drummer. So did they live in their own universe? They're in their own stars in that universe. They come out and they play so for me watching the partridge family and the banana splits my head Exploded and that was and then where did the Chuck E Cheese animatronics come into this? Still the same similar kind of thing It all started from Sid and Marty Croft because the Croft guys they created these characters as well So it's nothing to do do with the McDonald's Playland. No, but it's all.

That'd be interesting to find out. That's some ad agency came up with that for sure. Okay, let's introduce the theme of today's episode. And then I'm going to play a song and talk about some things. Can we crack? Can we have a beer? Yeah.

So Jesus, Jesus, Jesus wants us to have a beer. He dies today. I know why they call it good. I don't know. I'm just saying. Not so good for Jesus. Jesus, right. I have a beer. That's right. He dies today. I know why they call it good. I don't know. I'm just saying not so good for Jesus. It got better. Randy. It's really bad Friday. It's a shitty Friday for Jesus. You know, he's coming back. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good thing. Yeah. It's wild that that happened. Okay. Let's all let's crack a beer and fun. Yes. I'm thinking what I got. Okay. What do you got? Is it? Yeah. Can I can I pay? I feel like you're all at the same time. Yeah, three two one

Cheers Here we go. So today's topic is Anything, you know, you can interpret it any way you want So I wanted to have fun with it But it's songs you dig from bands or groups that you're not supposed to dig and we'll talk about you know Whether you're supposed to you know, whatever that means what it meant something similar to each of us and then we'll talk about, you know, whether you're supposed to, you know, whatever that means, what it meant, something similar to each of us. And then we can talk about whether, you know, why aren't we supposed to dig this band or whatever. But I want to ask you about another band really quickly off the top here. If you don't mind. I'm not gonna work at night

I've got no time for living, yes I'm working all the time It seems to me I could live a life I'm not the man I think I am I guess that's why they call me, they call me the working man. They call me the working man. I guess that's why I am. Quick question for you, Bob. What stations have you worked at where you would maybe play

Working Man by Rush? 94.9 The Rock, 977 Hits FM, Big FM in Kingston, that's about it. Rob do you know why I'm kicking out Working Man? Yeah of course because I listened to it while I was driving yesterday and this was my view while I was driving, I was going to show you this. Wow, that's a beautiful sunset. My sunset listening to you and Donna. And it was a beautiful episode. But you know where the Donna episode comes from. So I want to go back further. Oh,

you go back further? Yeah. You go back to this. You're the one who got Bob Roper. Yeah. There's a Bob and a Rob in this room. And then I said, Bob Roper, what's going on here? Bob Roper came on Toronto Mike, his podcast, forget Toronto Mike debut, his podcast debut. And it turns out he's the guy who had the self published or self, yeah, the self published Rush album, the first one called Rush, which has the song on it before Neil Peart's in the band. This is Rutsi on drums. And he sent it to his friend, Donna Halper,

who was in charge of music at Cleveland's WMMS, which was a big rock station in Cleveland, Ohio. So Bob Roper is the guy who sent over this album and says, you might like this. I think there's something here. And then that was that episode and that episode happened because of you. So this is how it works, Rob. Okay. So it's amazing. He was on, I don't think he does anything else. and he had. What did you think of Bob Roper's episode? Me? Yeah, I loved it. I don't believe I don't believe Bob Willett has heard it, so I got it. Yeah, I have an and I'll be honest. This is where I'm a bad Canadian. I don't get rush. Well, this is actually where I want to go

and I like I don't get rush. I've never enjoyed their music personally. I understand they're important. I don't like prog rock in general. So like it's just not. I don't I don't like yes, I don't like you know, there's a whole bunch of that genre. Just doesn't what about Tom Sawyer? No, no, no, no radio spirit. Radio. I would never put it on. I have never. I've never put any roll the bones when the rap part comes in. I don't even know what you're talking about. Really? What about Bob and Doug McKenzie take off to the great white? Oh, that one would be the one only one I would know., that's that's that brings us all the comedy. It's a good city

Bad I know I know I look at you like I'm actually with you. I like some of the radio hits. Yeah I know fine by night don't fly by night. Yeah. Yeah, I like some of those and that's That's good But you know, it's interesting that that was their early stuff, right? To like my earliest memory of rush was the song called in the mood, which I think was on the first album and it was on the radio. And I was like, no, it was going to be more. I'm more of a swing the mood guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But they had a song called in the mood was one of their first singles when I was

like eight, eight or nine years old. And I love what year are you that? What year are we talking about? 70 probably around this time, probably 74. So 74 versus 74. Okay. So anyway, Bob Roper comes on, we talk about lots of stuff, Blue Rodeo. Your conversation with him was masterful. That's what I'm asking about.

Because you let him go. How good was I? That's what he wants. How good was that episode? You were good because you didn't have to do anything. Like you basically just, you left the room open for him to expound. I wasound because I didn't have to do anything No, you didn't know I mean, you know

But you're good at like guiding along and like sort of letting him because he doesn't do things like this, right? But then I got the note from Donna Halper who's like yeah, I'm I am the Donna Halper from W MMS in Cleveland I'm the one who got that album. I'm the one who played working man I'm the one who got them down here for their first American concert. And then, and if you want to keep connecting these dots, you know, she's the reason rushes as big as they became. And that conversation comes off the Bob Roper and you made the Bob Roper happen. So Rob Proust, thanks for convincing somehow convincing Bob Roper to come over. You are very welcome. And I'm so glad he agreed to it. Well, why did he agree to it is my question, because Blair Packham struck out trying to do the same thing. I don't know. I just, I guess I've used it. Well, why did he agree to it is my question. Cause Blair Packham, uh, struck out trying to do the same thing.

I don't know. I just, I guess I've used it. Now how, how, how was your world intertwined with him? Well, when I was with honeymoon suite, he was, uh, he worked at Warner Brothers records at we are records. So he was, he was our, and our guy who was connected with us. He was with us all through through our recording sessions in Los Angeles. And he came with us when we were touring Europe and like all the things he was accompanying us.

So I just knew Bob. You've known him for years. Yeah, yeah. So I've always loved him. And so we just, you know, it's like in the, in the social media world, people stay in touch. Yeah. And he's just one of those people,

I think knows so many people. And I think everybody's always so happy to be able to stay connected with him. To tell their stories too though. Yeah. It's amazing that, like, that you were able to get him to do yeah like it's amazing that like that you were able to get him to do that. I think is what Mike is saying. He trust I think he's them into it. Well, I yeah, but I also think he's

listened to your show. He's the he had listened to episodes and I think he knew there were enough people in his world that had probably mentioned you or he heard of you and so I was the nail into the reputation precedes. Did you say cough? I was the final nail of the coffin. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Hall. And I enjoyed your episode with Brad yesterday as well. Okay, before we get back to Roch, let's just mention that there is a fresh episode of Life's Undertaking with Brad Jones from Ridley Funeral Hall. And we played the most popular, most frequently requested funeral songs from the year 2000 to 2009.

And I, it was yesterday and I thought it was great as well. So we kicked out eight songs and your Donna episode was really, really interesting too, because she's gonna help her. Yeah, you couldn't get a word in edgewise. I just stuck. I just saw uncle Phil. He's a P one 100% for you guys. This uncle and he just, he, I just saw him today. I just said, I was on my way here. He was like, ask him about that. Donna, she didn't shut up. He said, she, but does she ask a lot of pilot? She was, which it was like, I enjoyed it. She's 76. She's like Bob, right? They're like, she's got stories to tell, but when you don't get to tell them that often, you

just let her go. She's a radio person too. Right. Um, does she ask a lot of questions? Does she answer her own questions? Yeah, she was in the room. Yeah. Well, that's it. She sort of interviewed herself, but it was good. It isn't my preference. Yes. And I'm because she's a older woman with this leg of the story. I don't want to be an asshole. So I don't want to jump in there. I wait for her to pause for a second. Then I come in with my question. Yeah, but then she goes again and answers questions like I said, I was going to get to, but she wants to, you know, she was, it was good though. I enjoyed the whole, I mean, I was on the

in the car, so I had nowhere else to go anyway. So I was on the way home. And then you kicked out the whole working man at the end, which I loved. Cause when you guys, when you said goodbye, I was like, wait, there's 12 minutes left on the podcast. What's going to happen now? And then the song started and you know who she reminded me of. If you listen to it, think of Sue Johansson. Oh, you think of a little, you think of a little Dr. Sue and, and it all sort of makes sense in a way. It's like Dr. Sue talking about rush feedback about rush on the live stream live dot Toronto Mike before we kick out jams

We dig that were from bands or groups were not supposed to dig Andy says I used to hate rush, but I've learned to appreciate them the radio hits anyway Canada Kev says nailed it. So I guess he seconds that emotion Jay Ho I've tried, but I still can't stand rush. Getty Lee's vocals sound like nails on a chalkboard to me. And then Cambrio says nails on chalkboard voice, shout out to indie sci-fi band, coheating Cambria. Anyway, so, uh, not a lot. I know there are everybody.

Yeah. There's not everybody doesn't have to like everything, but there's somebody likes everything. Somebody likes something. How's that? I don't know It's good though. Nice effort. Yeah E a for a for a for effort. Yeah, I mean it's good Friday

So there's you know, the kids aren't in school and it's kind of like a Saturday I'll gather around the radio listening to us right now I want to ask you about another song and band and again, this is not actually a song that I dig from a band I'm not supposed I don't think I'm supposed to dig because I do dig this song but I actually dig this band So I doesn't qualify but I want to start it and then I'm gonna grab gifts I have for you guys that you know, you always get your your same gifts. I got new gifts for you I'm gonna go around the corner and get it. Let me start this song. I'll come back and hold on You can talk over it if you want. This is why they're shaded.

It's a free bird. It's all based on buck. Yeah, that's right. Oh, wow. I heard about this. So we got a lot to talk about for a little minutes. I'm going for a mic ride. Plan the whole thing. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I have a question for you about this actually. Okay. Well, let's talk about that first and then we'll get back to this song I'll put in the

background. When you were, when you're introducing your sponsors this morning and you said Maple Leafs baseball team and do they care if you call them the team or the club? Does it matter? What does it say on that logo? It says club and it says club there. So I've been told they're the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. Okay.

Oh, all the branding says club. They need to, you need to talk to, I'll talk to them with that. Well, uh, okay, Mike. Uh, I just want to say Mike that when you had Stu Stone on last time and he kept saying, Hey Mike, he's been on since you were here. I love the last time he came back to his, he called me Mike a lot. Mike, it was really nice. Because Tom Wilson did that.

That's right. Like, all right, Toronto Mike, cause Tom was much well Toronto Mike. That's right. Stu kept doing it. And then I thought Mike, it's nice when people keep saying you're seeing your name while they're talking. I had a great chat with Stu two days ago and he's going to make another visit here before he's back in the States for his spells. I watch Dark Side of the Ring, which he of course is a producer, I think on his ear. I know he's the researcher, interviewer guy. Yeah. And I watched that episode of the Edison twins that he was on and he was like

six. It was the cutest thing ever. Wow. Edison twins. So let me tell you a little bit about Toronto Maple Leafs baseball and then we'll get back to Leonard Skinner's free bird, which is in the background. So that book I've given you is the history. It's a great hardcover book on the history of the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. And I only started giving it away in March and you haven't been here in March until today. So there you got a copy now. Thank you so much. I am because I'm a East Ender. I have to admit I've never seen him trying to make me believe space ball game. You

know what? Well, what are you doing? Seriously? Now again, this is mother's day. So some people have an issue of that. But on May 12th, I'm gonna have a section at Christie Pits. And I'm gonna actually have my mics open, like people can come by and say hi. And some of the people I've confirmed will be there to hang with me. Are you ready? In addition to the obvious,

because Rod Black will be there. And Rob Butler's managing this team. Those are two FOTMs we visited recently. But I got Stephen Brunt coming from Hamilton. I have the great Blair Packham picking up Rick Emmett and bringing Rick Emmett to the team. What? Wow. I know.

Hepsey, of course, Steve Paikin is confirmed. I got a number of just cool FOTMs. This is like a TMLX event. Yeah. It's like an unofficial TMLX event. Now the only difference is I like to give free Great Lakes beer to people who come to team Team Alex and I can't do that there. Well, you can maybe figure a way.

Well, the problem I have is that they have a different beer sponsor. Oh, they sell there. They do actually. They do. OK, so you can't, you don't want to set up a name because Great Lakes knows it. But left field brewery, which is actually in the East end, ironically, it's at Greenwood and Greenwood and Gerard. So they'll be there selling beer. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, I

have an event. I like to say, hey, this beer is on me or whatever. So thank you to Great Lakes. We're drinking that now. It's our beer of choice and you great field will be supporting try maybe his baseball team, but May 12, you know, Rod Black literally growing his mustache for this. Is he really? Yeah, that's amazing because is there a Twitter account aided money to is there a quick Twitter account for his mustache? They should be. If there is, I maybe that'll be my new job. I'm gonna just start. I gotta figure out a way to monetize that. Why don't you start a podcast? It's a

bombs basement. I thought I see more episodes. I know you know what? There's been some personal stuff going on in my life with with I remember yeah yeah with us some family issue a family emergencies and stuff. Knock on what everything's fine. I retract the statement yeah yeah there will be there will be a little fuck up free bird in the back. No yeah if there's a skip in free bird. You know why okay Mike said something stupid but it's fine. You know Bob's basement, but you could start a new podcast like

Rod Black's moustache yeah like that. Okay yeah yeah and it's fine. You know, Bob's basement, but you could start a new podcast like Rod Black's Masta. Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah, and it's like every his mustache. Maybe his mustache has like a strange accent, like triumph, the insult comedian dog, you know, it's like some random unknown. You guys talking about you talking about his mustache is like me talking about the banana split. I don't know what you're right. Black has this. I don't know who he is. The Magnum P. I got like so Rod Black was the voice of figure skating and curling. He did CFL. He did CFL.

You're wearing an Argo shirt right now. And he had a mustache? And he had a, yeah, like a sick bushy 80s style. But up until like two years ago. But there's been more than that. All right, so in the background. So why are we listening to Freebird? So let me ask you this.

I'm on Facebook, and I'm friends of some people on Facebook, including a woman named Karen Gordon. Because Karen Gordon Facebook and I'm friends of some people in Facebook, including a woman named Karen Gordon because Karen Gordon is I've invited her to come on and talk about what she's done in the the arts community in the city and all that good stuff. When she coming on well, she kind of didn't seem as into it as I hope, but I'll still follow her on Facebook and she posts about she heard the song free bird, not for the first time, but she heard it in the wild. I guess and she wanted to share with everybody on Facebook how much she

hates that song. This is a terrible song. I hate it and I'm here to tell you. This is why I'm not kicking out this song as a song. I dig from a ban. I'm not supposed to dig. I love this song. I've always loved this version of free bird, this really long version and it gets my heart rate going and I dig it like I just want to pump it fucking up and enjoy. I tell me what you two think of free bird by Leonard Skinner. I'm more of a sweet home Alabama guy myself, but if I'm going to listen to if

I'm going to listen to Leonard Skinner dates, it'll be that this is fine. I don't hate it fine. Yeah, I'm a little indifferent to it like yeah, it's fine indifferent is not liking a song. I don't not like it. You don't hate it. I don't hate it. You're neutral on it. I'm neutral. That's fair enough. It's music. It's good. I'm the same way. Here's not all music is good. No, it's good or bad. Rob suggesting that it's music. It's good. Oh, well, some, well, it's not any music you hate Rob. Me? Uh, um, I don't like him. Only the lyrics. Only the lyrics. I don't like the expletives, Bob. Yeah. And I, I use, you don't like bad words. I don't like bad words. I don't like the expletives Bob. Yeah. And I used to.

You don't like bad words. I don't like bad words. I don't want to listen to them. I don't need to hear it. You don't swear in real life, do you? Sure. Yeah, you do, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure.

But not like that guy over there with the potty mouth. No, but there's something about the content that offends me that I don't like. I can see that. It's very shallow. Yeah, I sometimes feel guilty listening to this. What about mining snails like closer or something? I want to fuck you like an animal.

Yeah, yeah, I love that. It's a great great. But I don't like the lyrics. What about Killing in the name of by rage against the machine. I don't remember the lyrics. I won't do what you tell me Oh, yeah, no, I love tell me I like that. That's angry, right? Like that's actually it's pertinent to the feel of the song I'm what the songs about Or kiss Listen to this, guys. Come on. Sounds like Rush. This part right here. Or Kiss. To me, it's less, it's different than Rush. It's got Southern Rocky versus so.

No, but it's rock and roll. I'm being facetious. But all the rock and roll worlds merged together in this time period, right? Like in the early 70s, like it's Peter Frampton, it's Alex Lifeson, it's all the same. Didn't Homer Simpson say that a rock and roll achieved perfection in 1973. I think it was.

I can't remember. He graduates high school in 74. So it must be. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Jarvis says, hi daddy. I want to share with Jarvis on the live stream. Hey Jarvis. Stop swearing.

I swear around Jarvis. Oh yeah. Okay. Fucking A, fucking A, fucking A. As Freddie P. Left field. Greg says that left fields in Liberty Village now as well cool nice So they they're in a lane way and the East end in Alpha Greenwood

But we're Great Lakes people here and he can't make it on May 12 But hopes everyone who goes has a great time and Leslieville wants you to know She thinks sweet home Alabama is the worst song ever. Oh There you go It was one of my karaoke songs when I was underage and going to a bar in College Park that allowed us to go in at seventeen. It was a carry. It was a there was a bar called Osios in College Park right near the cop headquarters and we were like seventeen years old. It was a karaoke bar and our and we they did not look at IDs ever

and where is it like these kids going? That was our bar to go with. So we karaoke. We don't even want it to fit in. So there we are like sweet home Alabama. Wow. Wow. I hope Neil Young will remember a Southern man. I'm around anyhow. Anyways, but it's good to talk about a little bit about rush and Lynyrd Skynyrd. These are bands where some people hate this music. Yeah, I'll take Leonard skin it over rush every day of the week. I know that makes me a bad Canadian. That makes you a racist basically. So before you showed up, we talked about accidental racist. Okay. And about how we loved at least I, and I think you did

Duke's a hazard and we didn't know. No, we didn't know. You know, I think that's one of those things that changed with the times the how grossly inappropriate it was that flag is whatever, but okay. All right. Should we get rocking here? So shout out to palm a pasta. They're going to feed everybody at tmlx 15, which is june 27 from six to nine p.m. at great lakes brewery in southern atobicoke. Much love to your palm a pasta and of course the advantaged investor podcast is here. I know Rob's got a bunch of money

from writing romantic traffic. And if you need some investment advice. It was a minor hit. If you need minor hit, romantic traffic. Yeah. You know what actually didn't, I don't think it actually made the top 40. That's another topic, but yeah.

But do you think there's a reason it never made the top 40? Cause it's a catchy as hell song. Charts are different. I played it for the live stream. There's no lyrics. Do, do, do. There's do, do, do.

Yeah, yeah. It means whatever you want to me. I think it lived on through the video, actually. I think, oh, that's the song right there. There it is. I like playing it. Because now I'm interested in it. So this is a song that he likes by a band.

I think we were one of those bands, probably. Yeah, for sure. It's not cool to like the spoon. No, no. I got a lot of friends. It's funny. I have a couple. But there's words. What do you mean there's no lyrics? I know there's words. to like the spoon. No, no, no. I got a lot of it's funny. I have a couple words. What do you mean? There's no, I know there's no, I'm just kidding. But the course in the chorus, there's no, there's no, I have friends of ours who have become really close with their,

their again, you're talking about the difference being born in 72 versus being born in 76. I'm born 76, born in 72. Yeah, Five right. I'm old. Yeah. But I think we talked about this before, like graduating high school in nineteen ninety or starting high school in nineteen ninety. Very different worlds. But when I told them that I'm doing this podcast with you, they were like, oh my God, because like really all the huge spoons fans, we yeah, they're like and they he's got their musician. He's a music. He played sax And he's a jazz guy. I was like, we should hang out sometime. I was like, I don't know if a Rob comes out, but you know,

we totally should. Yeah, I love it. Why wasn't this a top 40 hit? I don't know. And actually I only learned like, I only learned about it a couple of months ago, somebody posted a listing of like all the Canadian content songs and their chart positions, like top 40 songs. Oh, OK. And like from whenever they can't start it through to like the late 80s. And I was curious. I was like, wonder where our songs were. And I saw Nova Heart on there and I saw Old Emotions on there. But romantic traffic was not on there. And I was like, what the hell?

And then I read somewhere else somebody had posted a thing. It said it got to like forty four in around the country in Canada, in Canada. Yeah. Which I thought, oh, that's weird. Because it sort of has lived on in some way because I think of the video, it was the video era. And is it just like big here? Cause that's our TTC, like Toronto Jam. I think so. Yeah. Well, yes. Regional for sure.

For sure. Cause CFNY would have played the shit out of this, right? I don't know that they would even play this. I think, I think this is already a little too poppy. Is it too poppy for them? Maybe? I don't, I think maybe. According to Wikipedia, so you know, it must be true. that they would even play this. I think I think this is already a little too positive to pop you for that. Maybe I don't. I think maybe according to Wikipedia. So you know, it must be true peaked at number 55 RPM top singles.

Yeah. So like, I feel like as the years have gone on, the four songs that were better than this at the time there were for sure. Boons have American exposure, like very little, not very little. Not like Honeymoon suite had more. In fact, we recorded this, hoping, hoping it would get me that one and it didn't know. So I think that I really attribute it to the video and the fact that we know we made the video in the subway and it meant a lot to people to see the old red rockets and is it true that the dudes in the course were added by accident? No. Well, according to Wikipedia, it is I'll go back and fix that. So yeah, I mean, Nile told Gordon

not to bother trying to fix that and then say, who are you? Are you exactly? I wrote the fucking song. Yeah. No, it's true. That's funny. Yeah, it's all rumors Sandy horn says the easiest video we ever did in our most effective. Yeah, and then it lives on I think that's the thing like it makes these weird lists like when people talk about video like top Toronto videos and stuff And I think it's because it it's a of, can we get off romantic traffic already? Can we get off romantic? Let's come on. You're like my parish priest.

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You know the drill. That's where you go to find out where to drop off your old tech, your old electronics, your old cables. RecycleMyElectronics.ca. Are you ready, Rob Proust, to kick out the first song that you dig from an artist that you don't think you're supposed to dig? You always go first. You always go first.

We have the same conversation. You always go first. Okay. I always, I want to lead. You're the get on base guy. Adrian. Exactly. for it. You know, we have the same conversation. Every time you always go for it. I always, I want to lead. Leo, you're the get on base guy. Exactly. No, I get it. You're Devon. You're Devon white. I want to, oh, that's a, that's a compliment right there. Wham co this is Wham co. I don't know where I fit in the Wham code there. I guess I want Molitor. I guess. Okay. Are you ready? Well, you're so now these are

John and my John. Oh, okay. Oh, you know, good. Okay. Well, here's the thing about talking about Alomar. We can do this. I can't do that on the sports net. No, without a doubt, the greatest position player in blue Jays history, greatest second baseman maybe ever in the game. And I don't think anyone who knows baseball will argue this fact. There's never been, I don't think anyone's going to a reasonable person will say there's a better positional player with the Toronto Blue Jays than Roberto Alomar with five tools. How many tools can you have? Six, seven, a lot of tools. He could even spit with with a target. That was a Baltimore

though. Okay, I only think of George Carlin when I think of Roberto Alomar because he had a joke in all. It was something like, no, that was Roberto Clemente. Was it? Yeah, you can say, can say it looks like he hurt his balls on that play Tony. He's got two balls on him. Yeah. That's Roberto Clemente though. Yeah. I was waiting. I know that's from class clown was 1972 to Rob. Who doesn't know this story. The whole album memorized 3000 hits was a huge milestone. Okay. Okay. He hit his 3000th hit. I think maybe

his last at bat in the final game of the regular season, but he wasn't retiring. He was coming back, but that off season he was in a plane delivering like food and stuff. I think Puerto Rico, I think he was from some and he was delivering it to the homeland, the motherland. Yep. And the plane crashed and he died. I think I heard that. And it's terrible because he was an active and wonderful human and a great baseball player and he got his 3,000th hit and then he died. So, but Roberto Alomar, so that they finished that not a good, yeah. And again, we don't actually get specifics on this one, which is kind of makes it a very interesting story that we don't know anything other than we're

told by people we should trust that he's should be banned from baseball and never see him again. And he's a terrible person. And regardless, he is the greatest positional player in blue days history. So it's like, when you talk nostalgia, which we do a lot on this program, we talk a lot about the 92 and 93 world series. I'm going to be recording live from the Joe Carter classic at Glen Abbey golf course. Wow. Cause Rod Black is on the committee and he's promised me that's the mustache guy. Yes. That's who's performing at the party after cause they always get into play. They had like naughty by nature. I don't know any. They have like oh yeah, the truck

treach will be on my microphone. I would love that rod things. I can get dan marino. Be great. Can you imagine? I just talk about a spintura with the gats. Yeah. Yeah. Can we get all right? You know what? This is a little adhd here. Sorry guys. Now before you get this, that's what's great about the show before you kick out my jam. Yeah. I'm a great player, horrible human. And you know, this is something we catch the taste.

Don't kick out my job. Kevin Spacey earlier and we think I think he was a great actor and he made some great movies and it sounds like he was a terrible person. Well, that's does that come up here today? Yeah, yeah, for sure. With these with these bands, Let's get to the chance. People don't don't kick it out yet because I want to paint a picture. Go. So because this was a hard subject for me because I like a lot of music and I

like a lot of music that you're not supposed to like. And so I had to like, like go through like moments in my life when I imagined it, listening to something and thinking who would I not really want to tell that I was enjoying this song that's what I envisioned that this meant right so this first song you're gonna kick out for me you know I can paint the picture that I was with Honeymoon Suite okay at the time we were living in Los Angeles recording our third album recording with Ted Templeman who had produced all the Van Halen albums and all the Doobie Brothers album right and you know we were making a rock record and it was like the guitars were going

to be featured and I was like trying to find ways to fit in with the heavier sound and stuff and then I'd come home at night and this song would start. I'd hear the song and it would make me very happy but it had nothing to do with what I was doing. We'll see who can name the tune so that was an accident because I'm left hand drinking a beer. But anyways, if anybody heard that and could name that song I'd be interested to know here. Name that tune in those don'ts here. Okay. You ready for me to kick it now? Yeah. All

right. Here's Rob Bruce's first song. He digs from an artist. He's not supposed to dig. I was there. We were all there. That hat, dancing around. Are we allowed to? Watch your back, Tiffany. That's right. Why are we not? Okay, all of us. I'm telling secrets I remember how it used to be

And I realized how much I miss you And I realized how I feel to be free Now I see I want to know good And I wanna start again And remember when I felt good I dig it. Debbie Gibson. I'm allowed to dig it. So that's the conversation to have.

First of all, let's do a caveat. Your jams are your jams. You know, whatever you like, you like. It's arts very subjective, blah, blah, blah. There's no bands you're not supposed to dig. If you dig it, you dig it, whatever. Okay. Now that we got that out of the way, my lawyer told me to read that statement.

Lauren Honigman said, please read this prepared statement here. But I know what you're saying. This was a like you were too old for this. I was too old for this. And I feel like that was for me, the bubble gum swap where I was like growing up, I was in my 20s and I still loved pop songs on the radio. Even even this is a great pop song. It's a great pop song.

Only you can't deny it. And which is why I sort of thought, but I remember the CFTR. Yeah. Well in LA, what station would it have been? Well, it was probably a Casey Kasem countdown. It was just like the general top 40 countdowns. And I would be listening to all the like fake R and B pop stuff. Oh, and that, you know, I only learned this in the FOTM chat this week that the woman who was married to Casey Kasem played the girlfriend of Carla Tertelli's ex played by Dan Hediea. So remember the tall blonde woman who would be, was it Nick Tertelli?

I don't remember his name. I think it's Nick Tertelli. Cheers. I should open that up. Thank you, Bob. That's why you should be on CHFI. Yeah, well, they don't want me. So yeah, the tall blonde woman who was with Nick Tertelli on the real-life wife of Casey cases. That's so crazy. I know

I remember that like when you see pictures of them in and you knew her from cheers and like whatever else she had done And it was just like a weird. Yeah serious XM still plays a bunch of his countdowns on the 70s and 80s channels Yep, and it's pretty amazing to listen like that guy was like that voice I mean just I'm just wondering like how their sex life was yeah you know coming up another request dedication please take off your pants you know I don't know it's just weird and he never changed his voice she got younger as he got older it was the weirdest thing so you don't you feel like you weren't and I'm with you on yeah I totally get this vibe you weren't supposed to be a Debbie Gibson thing this. I totally get this vibe. You weren't supposed to be a Debbie Gibson fan.

You weren't supposed to be a legit fan. Yeah, and I think that this became my theme for trying to pick these songs is that because I like so much music and I happily love those lists of like the worst one hit wonders and all that kind of stuff. Right. Because I grew up with the Partridge family

and the Banana Splits and pop music and bubblegum pop music. So it's hard for me to not like things that like, I don't know what you're not supposed to like. Right. And this was a time, uh, cause I think Bob and I were age appropriate. Yes. Right. 86 or so. Tiffani took off first, if I remember correctly. Tiffani. No, actually, I want, that's interesting. I could have been broke first. Tiffani was, so this could have been, I think we're alone now. Her first song was, I think we're alone now. Yeah. Which is a cover. Yep. And then, um, could have And then she had, what was her?

Could have been so beautiful. Yeah, but what was Debbie Gibson's Lost in Your Eyes? Yes, that came after this. I think this was the first. This was the first big hit for Debbie Gibson. And I felt like Tiffany came first, and then Debbie Gibson rode that wave of like, playing malls. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, like, teenage. But Debbie wrote her stuff. She produced her stuff. Like, you know, she, she had a home studio and she made these records, which I just think was, and I think that's part of what I read, what I related to, even at that time as I was a little older and I thought, man, she's 16. And I remembered when I was 16, like, you know, recording students.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But so I recognize what she was doing. And I appreciated that at that time. So I think it's okay that you like it. Even if no, even if, even if, but we, I already read the statement. Everything's okay that you maybe are Kelly, right? Right. Well, there's, yeah. So I'm glad Andy's on the live stream.

Okay. Thank you, Andy, for being here. This is, I wanted you here for the next jam we're going to play, which is Bob's first jam. But Andy remarks that she that she just saw Debbie Gibson with new kids on the block a few years ago and that she still looks and sounds great. And J-Ho, the official Toronto historian of the TMU,

Toronto Mike Universe, J-Ho reminds me, because I dropped organically earlier in this conversation, I dropped Scooby-Doo's name when I was thinking of banana splits and Saturday mornings, Scooby Doo, of course, Casey Kason was the voice of Shaggy. Right? Zoinks. Hey Shag.

Hey Scoob. So he was really like, he had to really alter that like to like his voice. But once you know, when you listen, you're like, Oh my God, it's totally. Okay. Can I try my rain? Like Scoob, let's get out of here. So I scoop pretty good. Like, wow. That's my go to, uh, he was also like, like Robin on the Batman and Robin cartoon. Yeah. And he's confirming my memories, which have often been faulty, but she's confirming that Tiffany came first because she had that album on final.

Yep. But then Debbie Gibson, she had to buy in cassette. Yeah. I think that's proof positive that, the order of things. And I do remember, I do remember Tiffany breaking first here. Okay. Now, because I've teased the first jam by Bob Willett and it all ties together brilliantly. It really does. Andy, you ready? I just, I just want to say one thing. I know you gave your little, uh, you gave your, I read the statement, the statement.

I wanted to say that one of my favorite writers I've mentioned before is Chuck Closterman. He has sex, drugs and cocoa puffs and killing yourself to stay alive and he's got a great essay on guilty pleasures and how you know it's you can look it up. It's great, but basically saying he refuses to use the word guilty pleasures when it comes to music and movies right Right. Like if you like Roadhouse, which again is in the we made, but he's like, yeah, he should never feel like I, this is what this came down to when I was thinking about this is like, I'm going to like what I like. And calling it a guilty pleasure only tries to make yourself look cooler because

you can admit there are artists that you're not supposed like this. OK, but that's the same shame too. But this was my but this was my second. My second thought there are artists that you're not supposed like this. Okay. But that's the same. But this was my, but this was my second, my, my second thought is like you're not supposed to like them cause they're racist or they're sexist or they're what? Like I didn't even go there. I just went with bands that, um, band songs from bands that aren't cool essentially. Yeah. And, and that's, that was my angle for the whole thing. I could have done.

I could have done a whole thing with other artists that are like basically cancelled that I still like their music, but I didn't go there for this like ignition remix right? Yeah, what a thing. It's a great song. Great fucking song ignition. Sorry, but you know, you can't, you're not going to drop that in the club anymore. Like no, it depends on the club. Okay, so I'm going to kick it out and I'm going to predict that when you first heard this on the radio, Bob, you thought this was the Beatles. That's my prediction here. All right. Let's see if Andy creams or jeans. Let's see. Definitely the Beatles, right? Remember when we said, girl, please don't go

And how I'd be loving you forever Talked you about hanging tough As long as you've got the right stuff Didn't we, girl? Oh, Joey, hit that high note buddy That's Jordan Is that Jordan? That was Jordan

Oh Do ya girl You're not supposed to know that Oh I got stuff here I got some, I got some Michael's for ya You get the right stuff? I guess it's a brand new day after all

Every time we hear the girls sing along See the girls with the girls in the hay All right, so Andy says Bob Thank you And she puts so many like smiley faces all that hearts in their eyes and Jho's wife is in heaven that you're playing this This is tonight new kids on the block Danny Donnie Joe John Jordan One of whom dated Tiffany for years. Yes

Yes, John Knight Jonathan Knight was yeah, that's all coming together now Jonathan Knight dated her and then realized that you know dating her he turned getting on kid Is that how it works? Yeah, that's all coming together now. Jonathan, I dated her and then realized that, you know, dating her, he turned git non-kid. Is that how it works? Yeah. Yeah. Apparently. So obviously, especially at 14 years old, when this in 1990, when this comes out, I was going to say what year 90. So there's a bunch of reasons why I liked this song. Not the least of which are the lyrics of them singing about their last album. I know it's only two years. Their name check. Remember when we said the other day, it's like a month ago, their name checking songs that were hits two years ago or

whatever. So I'll be honest. It came down. It came down to this one for me and no more games by the remix, the remix. No more games. So what you're saying beat to beat this cause Donny ain't playing. Anyway, Donny Wahlberg rapping is so great. Said we wouldn't last. Said we're just a flash, but we're still kicking ass. I don't think he says ass.

He doesn't. We're still kicking ass. We're kicking ass. Right, exactly. Look. The N-E-W-N-E-V what it is. It's sowing the seeds of love tears from fear. Yes it is. Right. Which is based on which is it's that's what I was thinking. That song came just before this. Yes. And we played them both. Right. Yes, we've done. Was it I am the walrus? Yes, it's I am the walrus. So

you can see that sort of the Beatles thing starting to shift back in the culture again as well. Right. And totally in this song as well. So this is a good pop tune. No, no, no, no argument here and I will admit we're not supposed to because of society's ridiculous again fuck society man fuck fuck society, but we're not supposed to dig this band. Yeah, so we all three apparently dig this band. Okay, so here like the games remix to so do I and I so so here like the game remix to so do I and I so

ninth December, eight, nineteen ninety Sky Dome new kids on the block with Paula Abdul, Heavy D and the boys Wow, show to Ridley Feudal Home, my first concert. That was your first fourteen years old. I was fourteen years old and I went with my girlfriend at the time. She her pair her mom got us tickets and we were on the floors of sky dome and I was four. That was my first real concert. I was 14 years old for new kids on the block. I did 90, 90. Wow. Okay. And I'm now thinking we need a future topic, which is problematic jams where we cover the ignition remix and we all kick that out. But cause Leslieville points out that she loves the song, Oh, Funky Cold Medina by Tone

Locke. Oh, but Tina was a man. You can't do that anymore. And it's that era, right? It's like, it's about, it's about, it's about roofing people essentially. Bill Cosby would love Funky Cold Medina. That's another conversation. Can you separate the art from the artist?

I saw Tone Locke perform in like Myrtle beach or somewhere in that time period. Yeah. Like this is the thing. This is like this era. It's like a transitional time for you guys being younger than me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Me still loving pop music and listening to the radio and going, there's something shifting and like, I'm not supposed to like it, but I like it. Right. Right. Okay. I'm glad you kicked. That's a great new kids in the block song. If I can say that and I have no shame in saying that. It's a fucking great song. And, uh, And this conversation will continue. Yeah.

Who knows? We might all be kicking out new kids on the block. I'm surprised, my admission that my first concert was New Kids on the Block didn't get more reaction. How old were you again? 14. See, if you were 30, I'd be like, that's right. But at 14. Yeah, no, it's good though.

And Skydome, it's amazing. I was once a 14-year-old boy, and I have had a couple of kids hit that age. And then there's another one who's now 10. And I can tell you, 14 year olds are dumb. It's well, it's my my my oldest is turning 14 in August. So you know what it's like. They're dumb, right? They're just we're just dumb. Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. I want to kick out my first jam. Please do it. I'm jealous that you guys get to go ahead of me. Okay, here's the first song I dig from a band I don't think I'm supposed to dig.

Oh, I dig from a band I don't think I'm supposed to dig Ninety-four nine the rock It's dangerous, my home city The walls cold and pale A pitch made of steel Streams filled with the water Silence now sounds like my breath The water will settle round It's very cool when they can point people at you. To be discussed, gentlemen. To be discussed. The answer. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right.

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So many fields there set off this pride And I said, oh Freeze and rest his head on the pillow in the concrete. So that I don't listen, we only go on and on. OK, hold on, hold on. Oh, I forget how this song goes. OK. I thought you went on with higher if you're young.

No, I went with this one, because this is my favorite Creed song. This is your favorite Creed? The band I've seen live, because I was at Edgefest when they headlined. Oh, wow. You were? At Moulson Park and Berry. Creed. And I can tell you, I unironically enjoyed Creed at Edge Fest at Moulson Park and Berry here.

OK, so I will turn up the part that I love. Like, my favorite part hasn't come yet. And I will turn it up for that. But I will start to talk about this band, Creed. I remember this. I can totally pick that now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

This song's called My Own Prison. Yeah, that's right. It's the first crease song I ever heard Scott wyland's on the phone. Oh any betters online too Scott when I wanted first time I heard Plush, I loved fucking Plush. And I was playing at one of my buddies' cottage in Huntsville and I couldn't stop playing and he's like, why are you playing that Pearl Jam song?

And I'm like, this isn't fucking Pearl Jam, okay? Okay, and this song of course, influenced as well by Pearl Jam. What can I say, except this is the first single most of us heard from Creed because it was the lead single from their debut album. My own prison was my own prison. Yeah, absolutely.

And it was their breakout hit and a lot of idiots like me dug it and we weren't sure. And then of course it does. Of course, it's a like a Bob, you and I are big Pearl Jam guys. So like this is a this is to Pearl Jam as new kids on the block is to the Beatles. Here's a fun fact here. Okay, so well first let me tell you Scott Staff is the guy who writes the lyrics to these songs, all the Creed songs, and he wrote this. But the music was written by guitarist Mark Tremonti.

So this is his music. Scott Staff said in his memoir that his Christian upbringing played a huge part in inspiring him to write the song due to the guilt that he felt from not measuring up to the God presented to him by his father and the rebellion that father followed in his teenage years. He felt it was both logical and amazing that his experiences came out in the form of a rock song. Toronto Connection, okay we to do Toronto Connections. One day these will be Esri Geography Corners. But the Toronto Connection is that the music video was produced by Toronto based production company, Black Walk. And it was directed by Stephen Scott

and it got lots of airplay on MTV and Much Music. I'm sure Bob and I were seen in on Much Music. I'm not sure Bob and I were seen in much music. Here is a... I was going to talk about charts, but this song was ineligible for the US Billboard Hot 100 because they didn't sell the singles in the US initially, so it wasn't eligible. But this Creed song that I dig, even though I don't think I'm supposed to dig Creed. Oh, hold on, hold on. So on the Billboard mainstream rock charts, this thing did qualify for the mainstream rock tracks, a Billboard chart they maintain, and this finished, it didn't go higher than number two, okay? It got blocked at number two. I'm going to play the song that prevented this song,

my own prison from reaching number one on billboards, mainstream rock tracks chart, which is hard to say, but maybe on CHFI they can nail it every fricking time. Any guesses? I don't think you'll guess it, but when I played it, it'll bring you. What year is it? 99 is 1997. I don't know the month. So is it the, it's the alt rock or the modern modern or modern or third eye blind. So the name of this chart that I'm referring to is called

mainstream main stream tracks. Okay. So it wouldn't be, this was number seven on the modern rock chart. I was going to say modern. Yeah, so modern's alternative mainstream is like just straight ahead rock right three doors down. I don't know. They can't like that's a great guess. I like one second. We'll do name that too. Oh yeah. Oh, like Oh, touch, feel and stand days of the new

boom. Everybody knows that Bob. I was just letting you win. Although Rob doesn't know Creed, right? What do you know about Creed? No, I remembered the name. I remembered the singer. I could picture him immediately. Oh yeah. Like the video.

So I just ignored it because it sounds too much like Pearl Jam. So we'll do a few. Yeah, it did sound a lot like Pearl Jam. But play a few seconds of this and then I'll play the biggest hit of Creed's career. Everybody was tuning their guitars way down in those days, right? Oh yeah. So good. The post-grunge, right?

Yeah. Yep. Any better influences all over the scene? Well actually, this is a little more Lane Staley, I'd say. Yeah, but the post-grunge was... It's very specifically 1990. Oh, yes. Just like Paula Abdul is specifically 1990. Got my time on my hands. If you're a Creed fan, by the way, july thirtieth, the summer of ninety nine tour at the bud stage with its creed, big wreck and finger eleven

and they're touring another place with like vertical horizon and the verve and the and three doors down. Yeah, another place ashcroft is with no not the not the sorry the first pipe for pipe not for okay. No, I mean, wait. Yeah. Sorry. I'm a lucky man. Oh, nice. Nice drop. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because people like to call that band a one hit wonder. Were you not there for lucky man? Also they have many, many hits in the drugs. Don't work. That's an aha story, right? Like aha is definitely a one hit wonder in the North America. But if you go away, shines on TV was charted. In North America? Yeah. Like not, not like South America.

Sometimes you follow a big hit and then your follow up to the big hit will get like a trailer. Yeah. They could have done a. You know what? I will say in Toronto, they're not a one hit wonder. No, there was their song, Take Off A.

Yeah. Take Off A. No, that's a rush with Bob and Doug McKinnon. Just kidding. Take off. Sun Only Shines on TV killed at Whiskey Saigon Sunday nights. The, I can tell you that. All right, good to know.

And they're still so good. Any guesses? What is the highest charting Billboard Hot 100 song for Creed? Higher. What do you say, Rob? I don't know. I know you're a big Creed fan.

No, I have no idea. But if you play it, I'll probably recognize it, but I don't know. You're wrong, Bob. Okay. I know, you're allowed to be wrong, but this song is actually the highest charting. Oh, with Arms Wide Open. Oh, I remember. I don't even like this band, and I know all're allowed to be wrong, but this song is actually The highest charting Oh with arms wide open. Oh, I remember I don't even like this band and I know all their songs You know what? I think our radio

I think you like this band the way you like new kids on the block. No, I like new kids on the block I like this topic. It's the power of radio Because you were in the CFL Y in the 90, you know This also leads this leads to the opening the door for crash test dummies doesn't it a little bit that voice Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Ghosts That Haunt Me came out in like 94. Did it? Yeah. Where did the... Oh, Superman's Dead? Yeah. Superman's Song. Superman's Song? No, Superman's Dead. That's clumsy. That's an early piece.

30th anniversary of the first Upstar Seat, by the way, the other day. Sorry. I'm just laughing. Andy says this song is atrocious. I guess she's talking about... I don't know if she's talking about this song or if she's talking about my jam. Touch. So anyways, I stand by what I said. My Own Prison is a song I dig and I always dug it. But yeah, I know this is a band that you generally speaking, you're not supposed

to dig. You're not cool if you like these guys. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. So we're back to Rob Bruce. Any words before your second jam? Song number two? Uh, nope. It's similar, similar vintage. We're moving on in my life where I'm still getting older and still not supposed to like these songs. Oh, you're always getting old. I'm always getting older. Um, but at this point, yeah, this was something I really dug and I actually saw them play live. Okay. I got to talk about this. Okay. Watch the documentary. More of a blame it on the rain guy. But

when you prefer Rob or fab, which one's alive? Shout out to everything. and everything you do. Don't you understand, girl? This love is true. You're so sick of hearing those sick dancing. This deserves a second beer. That's a girl like a passion. Up on your skin. I always put up two beers for mine. That's a great link for mine.

And that's also true. I've got eight in front of me. So get real one, separate your two. Yes, you do. So make it all mine. All mine is my desire. Because you contain a quality. That all your mind.

You're putting things through my world to try to understand. I'm in love, girl. You must love the synth on this. I'm in love, girl. This is why I love all this bad music. I'm in love, girl You must love the synth on this This is why I love all this bad music Because it's got such good technology going on And this is true Girl, you know it's true

I like the bike shorts they wear every Sunday What about that sample in the back? We're talking about that Oh, good, good, good Yes, you know it's true So seriously, Rob, whose vocals do you prefer, Rob's or fab? It's the mix. It's actually the best. I don't know.

That's right. Good hair, though. Yeah. You know, handsome fuckers. I mean, they were modern. They were beautiful. Yep. You see, there's a video on YouTube of them trying to sing, trying to learn to sing the songs and it's like they were trying to prove that they sang. That guy who, I can't remember the guy's name. Frank Farian.

Yeah, he just passed away. Yeah, evil. Like the one in the evil, like. Well, he did it already. This Boney M was the same deal. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, crazy. No one complained when Rasputin was kicking in the club.

Ra, Ra, Rasputin, Russia's greatest love machine. My wife's favorite Christmas song. Oh, Mary's Boy Child. Oh, right. She like, oh my lord. You sent song. Oh, Mary's Boy Child. Oh, right. Oh my lord. You sent your son to... Anyway, so. So I saw these guys play at the, like talking about your first concert,

I think it was probably 89 or 90. Yeah, at CNE. And it was at the CNE, there was an MTV show and it was Milli Vanilli and Information Society. Oh yeah. And like, I don't remember who else it was. Wow, Pure Energy. Wow.

12 and single. Weird. But knowing it wasn't until years later knowing that they were up there faking who else it was. Pure energy. Wow. Weird. And but knowing it wasn't until you know years later knowing that they were up there faking it was so weird. And I almost felt bad going to the show because I knew I was too old already to go. I was out of Honeymoon Suite. I was into the world of musical theater at this point. Oh yes of course.

And I was starting to play the theater. You're a real musician. Well I was like, I wasn't really like you know in the pop music world at that point but I still sort of felt this pull to this kind of music. And I thought this is weird, but I feel like it's going to be a fun show to go see. And it was pretty fun. I like to blame it on the rain. Yeah, I was. Yeah, I was a blame it on the rain guy. I also like there's a ballad on the on the on the on the tape. Yeah, baby, don't lose my number. Oh, baby, don't. That was a huge hit. Yeah. Um, I love that. So, yeah, I love ballet. Well, my next one, you'll see it's about three, at least three

months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Much music. I remember seeing them on our city hall. I was a, I was a devote hall. Yeah. Oh yeah. Can you back up for one second? Just one second. Like they're mixing all these elements of sounds together. This right here? Just before that. Right. From Yes, right? Owner of a Lonely Heart.

Is that Owner of a Lonely Heart? I thought it was Michael Jackson. No, it's Owner of a Lonely Heart, which was already a sample from a Fairlight synthesizer that Yes used on the Owner of a Lonely Heart. And I just thought it was really cool that they brought it back on this as well. Yeah. And I didn't, the guy like produced the album in like two days or something.

Like the producer voiced most of it. Yeah. And they threw it together like crazy. They make this stuff real fast for sure. The documentary I think is on Prime. It's really good. Yeah. It's really good. Now you had a couple of songs you sent me, Mr. Pruse. Yes. Did you get the one I sent you this morning? Yeah. You want me to play that now?

I think just that one. But let me tell the story about it because this Milly Vanilli song is based around this famous drum loop, which was subsequently used on so many songs in the era. And there was a video that had a link that sort of showed a whole bunch of different songs, clips. So I grabbed a bunch of them and sent it to Mike. The original drum loop was from a song called Ashley's Roach Clip by the Soul Searchers from 1974. And it was isolated and used in all these songs.

You know, all the rappers were sampling it and DJs using it. Sort of like the Amen break. Exactly. But I feel like in this era, from like 87 through to the early 90s, this one was that new jack swing. Can I play the montage?

Yeah, play the montage. Okay. And so I'll show you what they are. So this is the actual beat. Just a hi hat. And a tambourine. Yeah. Oh my God.

So now we get to the other Milli Vanilli hit. Same beat. It's good for mashups. Yep. Bop bop bop bop. Somebody called Ab Troll 2014. Same beat. Same beat.

Same beat. Kettle boys. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta. Kettle boys. Damn it feels good Smart time, dope game, cocaine, pushing rocks on the block of metal Ghetto boys Sport tourie and the shit that came with rolling hard Damn it feels good to be a gangsta With no regard My life

Duran Duran 1993 Yep Still using the beat So did they get a writing credit when they used it? I think they got a license to sample A license to sample? Yeah

Oh yeah Unbelievable 1991 Unbelievable EMS Yeah And your nice players on this song I saw the guy who started Soul to Soul DJ. Oh yeah. I can't remember his name. I remember him.

He's in FOTM. Oh right you had him on. Yes, yes, yes. Oh because he was doing a show at the AGO. Is that right? Yeah. He was doing a show at the AGO. He was doing a show at the AGO.

He was doing a show at the AGO. He was doing a show at the AGO. He was doing a show. You had him on. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, because he was doing the show at the AGO. Is that like, yeah. Here's PM Don, 19 years old. He's in Toronto. PM Don. Same beat, same beat. Now the last one. This is true by... It is, and it's true. Yeah, but it's got the... Eric B and Rakim. I think this is the earliest. This is 87, but without no money. So, so that one right there, it all comes out. It's all coming out of this song called Ashley's woes clip by the soul searcher, which is a super cool song in the first place. But like the fact that like guys were looking for those moments, those open bits, right?

It's so cool. There's actually an interesting trend going on right now on Tik Tok. Um, I've gotten into this story where all these music producers are film, those open bits right. It's so cool. There's actually an interesting trend going on right now on tick talk. I've gotten into this story where all these music producers are there and they're actually showing how they're taking traditional like Eastern European folk songs and looping them and turning them into beats and you what and they show on the like on on logic or whatever you whatever they record and their take is like you want a new beat. Listen and listen to like you cranium. Send me one of those.

Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's so cool. It's really cool. Yeah, there's so many ways to be created with samples now like like I think back to like in the mid eighties when I got my first sample and keyboard and it was I basically got a loan from the bank to get this thing because it was so expensive, but it was like the new technology and in order to get it, you gotta pay the money, right? Um, and what you could do with computers now or on your phone compared to what we could do. Of course it's ridiculous. I had a Casio, MK 10 or whatever.

Yeah. And it was 10 SK 10. I had a little Casio, SK 10 and it had a sample button and you could sample your voice. Yes. And I can, and I never really learned anything, but as much as I am a, I love music. I'm not, I've never had the talent to be a musician, but I always, I actually had stickers to put the notes on. And I, the one thing I learned, the first thing I learned was shout by, uh, by tears, because it was like shout, shout. That's crazy. Yeah. Do you remember the timestamp when this thing plays the part that we know? The thing underneath.

But if you go to like 3, 330 about. Okay, hold on. See if I can do this. You said you could do anything. Here it comes. Here it comes. Sounds like any 70s TV show. Yeah. Like it's a cool sound.

Soulful jazz. Jazz. Yeah. Jazz music. Great musicians. There it is. Yeah, there it is. With the mask to play.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eric's being Rakim over this. Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. Absolutely. Everything. Yeah. It's so much of that new Jack swings it. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Actually, there's a whole thing too with the the drum in poison by Belle Biv De Vaux and what that one beat is and where that came from as a whole on Apple music. Mark Ronson hosts. Oh, I love that show.

Isn't that great? Yeah, yeah. So there's a whole website you can go to called whosamples.com. And yeah, that's a great reason. It's so interesting. Yeah, like you can just find- And Bob and I can leave now because Canada Cav says Rob wins. So this is, that's a great reason. So interesting. Yeah, like you can just find I can leave now because Canada Kevin says Rob wins

So this is it's over Wow, he's half man half a me as me talking they're not Canada kid, but but we were really Tell me there's a compliment or an insult. Okay Cambrio says that Rob is the cam Gordon of this toast. I don't know what that means because I actually, because you think I'm the, I think of Bob, I casted you that Rob was the cam Gordon and that Rob Bruce was the Stu stone, but apparently, uh, I don't know. So does that mean you're kind of boring? No, I love, I love,

we should do a four man toast one day. I would like to get the originals here and we talk to stu agent. I know he's very busy man. That would be amazing. I will say there is a new new. So we do these monthly where there's gonna be a new quarterly episode of Toronto Mike, which is called FOTM cast and it's gonna be Cam Gordon and Tyler Campbell here in the basement once a quarter talking about everything in the TMU that transpired in the previous. Oh wow, basement once a quarter talking about everything in the TMU that transpired in the previous go out FOTM cast. Is that to meta or is it just meta enough? It's a little pop lead itself. That's all right. It's like a little too self aware, but that's

okay. It's fun. That's what we all are about. You either you're either with us or you're against right. Okay, absolutely. Okay, so thank you for bringing the bonus there. Now it's any words from the great Bob Willette before his second jam is kicked out. We can talk about it after let's just take it. Just take it in. I will say because we're similar vintage. I remember when this was a top 40 hit and it was my introduction to this band you so that's an issue. That's right. We'll get into it. Let's do it. Oh,

anybody, anybody want to slow dance? Anybody want to slow dance? Hahaha. And I want you here with me From tonight until the end It's all keyboard, eh? It's one keyboard, the DX7, the Yamaha DX7 was the most ubiquitous keyboard of the 80s. Always on my mind, in my heart, in my soul. My baby, you're the meaning in my life. You're the inspiration. You bring feelings to my life.

You're the inspiration. I wanna have you near me. I wanna have you near me. I want to have you hear me say what Chicago Peter Satera at the helm with you the inspiration and I include this as a song. First of all, I love all Peter Sotero Chicago. I love it, but here's the thing. There is a a very vocal and passionate bunch of people who are, if it's not twenty five

thirty six or whatever that old, you know, if it's not Saturday in the park, Chicago, if it, which is a great song, right, they hate Peter Sotero Chicago because the sound is so different. It's basically a different band. Yeah. Well, and also you can blame the Doobie Brothers got Michael McDonald. It was totally different. Changed the whole sound. But like with Chicago, you can blame slash thank David Foster, right? And which as you started this, I thought, Oh, well, we could actually do a foster could be in a league of his own, right? I'm not supposed to like because he's. Because it's not cool. But beautiful records, though.

He makes fantastic records. Yeah. And here's the thing. I've said this to you on air. I don't know if I said it off air. My comfort food is what would be deemed shitty 80s ballads. I love Gloria Lorie and Carl Anderson, Friends and Lovers. I'm Secret Lo secret lovers Atlantic star.

Why don't you suggest this as a topic for all the songs? I know I have shitty 80s ballads that I have suggested. You shut me down. But see, that's and that's our imagine. That's our generational shift because I'm the same way with 70s ballads. Right. But I love the carpet. I love the carpet. 70s and 80s ballads that you shouldn't love.

But I want to do Birdsongs next though, because I got some really good suggestions. Remember we were going to do Birdsong? The Homer and Marge's love song. Close to you. So yeah, so yeah. And I actually didn't really know. So like, 87, this comes out, I think.

84. Is it 84? So my dad started DJing. 84, eh? So my dad started DJing. I have this on 45 still. My dad started DJing for a company here in started DJing. I have this on 45 still. My dad started DJing for a company here in Toronto called disc jockeys unlimited. Oh yeah. The biggest DJ company. Yeah.

My dad was their number one DJ for years. And so we always had these like a big library of 45s and I would go out sometimes to this was a huge, huge, huge song for weddings. So you were a little kid going with your dad. No. Yeah. That's how I got it. That's how I started my dad. My dad during the week, God bless my dad. He was a very complicated man, but during the week he was a lead smelter. He worked in a lead smelting factory and on the weekends he was and I think I said this before on Mike show in nineteen ninety. So he'd been with them for five years at that point. They had like a

hundred DJs around the city doing club. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Toronto life magazine called DJ. You're the best DJ company in the city. And my dad was their number one DJ. He won their number one DJ every I'm like, well, my dad was the best DJ in the city. So in the family. Yeah. So I love this song. I love. I love. I also love uh, the one of credit kid part two glory of love, but I think that's just Peterson Tara Chicago Chicago. It's probably still David Foster to it. Here's the Terran David Foster. Yeah, 100%. So I, but it wasn't until later on, I think actually when I was working at 94 in the rock and they have the

oldie station there and and I was talking, I was like, I, I, I actually had a conversation with somebody. I was like, oh my God, I much prefer the eighties, Peter Saterra. And they lost their mind on me. They're like, what? It's like saying you're a Gary Sharone van Halen guy. Yeah. That is a great reference.

That was really good. That's a good one, Mike. Well played. So anyway, so yeah. So am I not supposed to like that? I don't know. I like it. I have fond memories.

I used to DJ with Lana Gay, who's now on in D 88 doing an afternoon drive on Toronto might. Yeah, she's, she doesn't like you. No, I'm kidding. No, I think that she doesn't want to know. She doesn't want to talk about me. Why doesn't want to talk about herself? I know Lana Lana was going to be in my wedding party. Lana is a very good friend of mine. Like I was very Lana helped me pick out Laura's engagement ring. Lana and I are very close and we would do these clubs out in Hamilton in a Hess village. And then we drive home and we would listen to candlelight, like candlelight wine on CHFI on the way home and listen to all, we have this bond over these

eighties ballads, um, uh, Roberta Flack and, um, Aaron Neville and all those ones. Sure. Uh, I love them. I just, they're for me, I know they're cheesy. I, that's what music is supposed to do that. I will put those on. Christa Berg, Lady in Red. It was like, I love that song. There is a dance song in my grade school dances. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys, you're younger than me and yet you still love good cheesy songs. Oh, I, I, I, I'm the same again. Kids are dumb. Yeah, no, I'm the same again. Kids are dumb. Yeah, no, I'm the same way. Like, which is why, like when I talk about the banana splits and the love songs on the radio, like I fell in love with the sound of Olivia Newton, John's voice.

You know, I was like seven years old. Not, not Greece earlier. No, like I honestly love you. All right. Come on. Can I share a fun fact about, uh, you're the inspiration. Yes, do Peter Satera stated in two thousand and four during an interview that that song was going to be a Kenny Rogers

song. You are the inspiration I have her okay. Yeah, and I think that's a bit of a mind book because I know Bob and I both grew up with Kenny Rogers in the house. Sure, huge Kenny Rogers fan. That's amazing and not it's funny that era and I know what that happens now to in pop, but you don't hear about it as much about songs going around from people, like this song, Lionel Richie was writing songs for the Commodores and then became friends with Kenny Rogers.

But you hear about songs going, oh, that was going to be an ex-person's song. And then it ended up, it's a Loretta Lynn song or something, some country song. Do you remember this? You just reminded me of this, which is not really off topic, but remember the Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson song, State of Shock? Barely. I don't remember, I don't remember State of Shock.

You don't remember it? No, cause it wasn't on Thriller. Oh, you're too weak, yeah. No, it's not. State of Shock, it was a really great song. Thriller was the first Michael Jackson album. It was a Mick Jagger solo song that he did with Michael Jackson, State of Shock.

Super cool song. I remember Jagger and Bowie. Yeah, sure, dancing in the streets. But they had this song, State of Shock, super cool song. I remember Jagger and Bowie. Yeah, sure, they had this song, State of Shock, was a super cool song, probably 1984. But I didn't learn until many years later that it was originally supposed to be Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury, and there are demos now on YouTube where you can hear Freddie working on it with Michael,

which is a weird combination, because they were friends as well. Speaking of David Bowie, he had a big hit with Mr. Freddie Mercury too much three too. Yeah. Anyways, you made me think of that. Well, like songs that evolve and like you do, then you hear the back story. Can we settle something here before it causes rift

in the TMU? Okay. What's going on? What was the topic I vetoed that would have allowed you to play these cheesy songs? I wanted to do ballads. Oh, I have no memory of this. Like I can't imagine shooting down ballads. Oh, you said we've done it. We've done, you said we did it. Okay. But you know, if we do ballads, I can't imagine shooting down ballads. Oh, you said we've done it. You said we did it.

You know, if we do ballads, it can't be like any ballad. It has to be from a decade. We have to do like a 70s ballad. I will rock at like 80s ballads like crazy. I will sing along. Well, what do you want April? Like April's coming up. I want it to do birds. I got to come out. It'll be spring. I got to come out. Bird jams in April. We want it to do bird jams.

And then remember when it becomes yachting season, we have to kick out our yaw. That's where the that's oh no, no, that's that was with Liza. That's for Liza. That's right. That's not for us. Okay, Bob's not invited to that party. That's fine. He's not invited. Okay, so we'll do bird jams in April. I do. I hope then you want to do a good mind blow. Okay, so in been thinking about it, I'm very it. So in May, are we doing what do you call this like eighty like eighty cheezy like eighties balance

like okay unabashedly cheesy eighties about a sure like unabashed like full on. This is like you know this is from the eighties. You know I think I'll use it like careless whisper is like you know like by Wham is just like anything with a heavy saxophone. There's always a saxo. Exactly fine. We'll do eighties and then if Rob wants one, no, no, no, well, you could do eighty-one to seventies and eighties to seventies and eighties. Oh, okay. So Rob, I was gonna say, well, maybe we have to have a, uh, like a little layout. We have to have two of one and one like we have to have a, like a layout. We have to have two of one and one, like we have to have two eighties and one seventies.

Ooh. For some reason, we flip that for Rob. No, no, I love them all. Because I'm older, I get to accumulate more music. That's the thing. That's the beauty. Okay. Amazing. The second jam, Bob Willett.

Now, Bob, you had a rough week, so no bonus jams for me. No, I didn't have time to get any mind blows and stuff. It's okay. I apologize. Because Rob is, I gotta give props to Rob. No, Rob over it. He really kicked up. He just a little. But only with the song.

It depends on the song. No, that was good. No, but it took you several months to realize that that's something you can do. He loves the mind. You like the mind. I like the bonus jams. So let me kick out another song I dig from a band

I don't think I'm supposed to dig. Here we go. ["I Don't Think I'm supposed to do. I'm a little bit skeptical, silent when I would use to speak Distant from all around me, the witness me fail and become weak Life is overwhelming, heavy is the head that wears the crown I love to be the one to disappoint you when I don't fall down But you don't understand when I'm attempting to explain Because you know it all and I guess things will never change

But you might need my hand when I'm falling in your hole Your disposition I'll remember when I'm letting go Okay, Rearranged. This is Limp Bizkit. Shout out to DJ Lethal who almost appeared on Toronto Mic. I feel like he chatted with Stu Stone on a few things. Okay, so Rearranged is the second single released from Significant Other. This song actually came out as a single in October 1999. And the first single, so I had a copy of $3 Bill Y'all and I'll explain why in a moment because it's going to tie into the single. But the first single, who can, I know Bob knows, any idea Rob, what was the first single who can I know Bob knows any idea Rob what was the first single from significant not not even one clue Mike Bob do you remember my way my way oh no it's hot dog flavored water't so the first single from this album,

which I actually didn't like this single, but the single was nookie. I did it all for the nookie what nookie what what year is this much like much like new kids on the block. He didn't say ass. He would go stick it up your like much like new kids on the block. He didn't say ass. He would go stick it up your ass. Anyway, so guys were so huge for a moment, 100% new metal was big post-grunt. I successfully ignored them. I saw the name. Did you watch the 99 Woodstock 99 documentary? Watch it. Should I watch it? Okay, that'll be a break. That's where so breaks. I'm going to get to break stuff. Sorry. Yeah. I feel like Rob, it's like cryptocurrency for me. I didn't really understand crypto and I just sort of like ignored it and waited it out. And then I feel

like it kind of passed. I know it still exists, but it kind of passed. So I feel like, Oh, I didn't have to get into that and know what it is. And I feel like that might be new metal for Rob Bruce. Like, like you kind of, there's this thing out there, this new metal thing, but you're like, I don't feel like going in there. It's not my sound or whatever. And then if you wait long enough, it goes away. But is this, is this representative of it? I think this is this song is not representative. No. Okay. So when a Limp Bizkit puts out, cause they're a new metal band. No, you're not supposed to like these guys though. That's the point. Yeah. They kind of became, uh, Deer or Gur or whatever the terminology is.

Um, they, they lost their cool edge real fast. Okay. Like most, as high as they went up, they went down just as fast. Right. So the first single was Nookie. You're listening. So I didn't care for Nookie. Big hit though. I didn't care for it. And I'm like, Oh, this is kind of cheesy, whatever. But I liked to rearrange, which is this song. I like this song. I like how it incorporates the hip hop elements. It sounds like faith no more. But then their next single was end together now, which I really liked. I should have kicked that out. Yeah. That's a man from the wire. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And then they came out with that's a lyric. Break stuff is a song I could have kicked out right here because I I unironically enjoy break stuff like this in this, okay

So I'm gonna roll into the B side Here, I'll kill actually rearrange. I'll roll into the B side That's hot dog flavored water, right? Okay, so you buy the single for rearrange This is what you get on the single. This is a different version. This is not the version on $3 bill. Y'all. I guess it would be nice. He is doing it. I'm going to hear a Rob Bruce things about this Oh, wait time here for Rob Bruce is so far so killed at the Phoenix concert theater Saturday night Club 102 Saturday night It's Martin Street This is like biscuit? Yep.

Wait till it goes. Oh, I like it. That's good. So I'm certain I kicked this out with the original toast crew, probably in a pandemic party when you did like covers we like. You gotta hear the middle part. Yeah, I'll bring it up for that. So this is on Sweet Dollar Bill, y'all. It's literally why I bought Sweet Dollar Bill.

I liked this cover of Faith so much. And that's why I was so disappointed with Nookie. I just was looking for something else from this band. Okay. But this is actually on the singles. So I wanted to share it as on the It reminds me of Marilyn Manson as well, which is why I like it. It reminds me of the song that played when the skies opened up during an episode of Pandemic Friday and we all had to come in because of the store, the typhoon, we were playing bodies, but the bodies of the floor. Why is my heart racing? Holy shit. Okay. What's the guitarist? What's his name? Uh, um, yeah, Mitch. No, that was his name. He is phenomenal. Wes, Wes, Wes Borland. Wow. Wes Borland. He's like this really,

he's what makes Limp Bizkit still cool. Wes Borland is like cause he's of, I would say he is of a similar ilk to a Marilyn Manson. He's, yeah, he's dark and he's got, and you know, and he can, you can get past Fred Durst bullshit because of West Borland, I think. That's really cool. I think.

It's a good combination. It is. Yeah, yeah, it's about what you need, right? Exactly. Also, Donald Trump made the red hat very triggering and Mr. Fred Durst rock You already had red fucking hat backwards. And you're not supposed to. I know that's why, you know, I do cause Ben. Okay. So wow. Okay. So we're back to Rob Bruce for your final jam.

That came very quick. I feel like we just started recording, but again, this is not a good Friday. This is the greatest of Fridays. I'm telling you, you're with the toast crew of Bob Lillet and Rob Bruce. Look at you resetting like it's a radio show. You know what? I was going to do a time check too. I was going to tell you privately traffic and weather coming up on the one. I was going to tell Bob privately, but I'm going to say it now. And I didn't want to hurt you. You got the CHFI job. Shout out to really, you know, but in all seriousness, Rick Campanelli, who is a FOTM is is going to be

after the drive on Rick. The temp is afternoon drive on CHFI always April one. Well, good for him. That wild. That's great. Well, I'm happy for him. Yeah, I've only I think I've only met him once always. It was a decent dude. Good for him. Good FOTM and he's gonna he said, give me a couple of months to get my, you know, feet wet and get into the rhythm with his co host and then they're both brooksy, I think is how she goes. They're going to both come over to Toronto might and sit here and talk about being on CHFI.

My last jam is, is it related to a jam that's already been passed as well, which surprised me. And I thought, well, this is kind of cool. Like, right. Some topics I'll be like, you know, you got exclusivity, but this topic, it's a different song. We'll kick it out here. And this is for Andy because Andy got to hear one of her favorite songs tonight, but we're not done yet. Oh, you said, baby. Those drums. Listen to that drums, man. What decade could this be from?

Well, you would think it's 1988, but it's 1990. Is that right? Yeah. That drum is exactly like George Michael's monkey remix. But you're right, 90 was like an extension of the 80s though. Oh yeah. Yep. So it's interesting.

Yeah. There's a conversation to be had about when the 90s actually started. It wasn't 1990. No. Smells like teen spirit. Of course. Yeah, sure. This hits him Spirit. Of course, for sure. Yeah, sure. It's the same thing as the 80s, too. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like this really came from- Is this the Shep Pettybone remix? No. No, I know it, but The Monkey had a great Shep Pettybone remix. Yes, it sure did. It was the best. Yes. Yes.

You know, Cam and Stu didn't know the name Shep Pettybone. Like, they didn't know this name. We need to get him on the show. How many remixes did that have? Some experts. Are we gonna do this together? Okay, so talk to us Rob. This is Rob's turn to, you know... I just love this song. This was again, for me, like 1990. I was new to the world of musical theatre getting out of... So you're here in Toronto, are you working on Phantom?

I was in Burlington, living in Burlington, yeah. And I was working on Phantom. At that time, I was like, there was some tours coming through Toronto, like I was playing Starlight Express. There was a tour of the UK production of The Wizard of Oz that came around. So I was playing these shows and scared shitless, like trying to learn how to become a keyboard player in a pit, like it was a whole new world to me.

It was a change, yeah, a huge change. But I couldn't resist the pull of the pop music. So I wasn't making pop music, but I was enjoying it. And this song, I was like, I couldn't resist it. Great story. I mean, I knew New Kids on the Block, but I didn't own pop music, but I was enjoying it. And this song, I was like, I couldn't resist it. Like, I mean, I knew new kids on the block, but I didn't own any of their records. And this was the first one that I think, oh, I should get this. And this is the lead single from the follow-up, right?

Yes, yep, exactly. So it was sort of inevitable that people were sort of catching up to them would get it. That's a topic I like, the lead single from the follow-up to the smash. Yes, exactly. Well, yeah, where you can't, but technically though, this is not their sophomore. It's not a

sophomore drinks. They had an album before hanging tough. No, it's technically not. So you could to get apparently I'm an expert on new kids on the block. This is the one but like you're right though because this is the one where when it was coming out people who never bought them before would come and buy them sort of like what happened to Sarah. Lock them with surfacing. You'll be there day one. I talked. I just had this chat. You're there day one for verses, but you weren't there day one for 10. Like the big album has to break and you hear the radio and like, Oh, you fall in love with the album. And then when the second album,

the next album comes out, you're there day one. That's right. Having only heard the lead single radio, like the beautiful old era of the music business, right? Like when things like that happened, like that's why you'll get a follow-up hit, which is basically running on the fumes from the previous hit. You'll get a hit, oh, they're not a one-hit wonder. They have the second hit. Well, I don't know. But it was inflated because people were-

Tell that to the flies, got you where I want you. There's no, here, hold on a second. Lots of fun. Step two. There's so much we can do. Step three. Jordan. It's just you and me. Here's John.

John can't sing. I can give you more. Come on, Joey. Don't you know that the time has arrived? So good. Great pop tune. Great pop tune. Wow.

Step by step. And I love that my man Rob Bruce, has fully embraced the mind blow spirit of Toast and that this has a mind blow to it. Oh, I can't wait. You can't wait? I can't wait. So I didn't know it until, you know, doing a little bit of research for the song. Well, maybe you don't even say it. You just let it like, you know, get revealed with the song. OK, so let's let the new kids on the block and again Andy loves this. He's on the live stream just

Totally Carol popin herself We'll let the new kids on the block roll into the next mind blow jam I want you, I need you, I want you in my world. You got those notes, Jordan? Must be Jordan. Joey's voice changed after Please Don't Go Girl. He was like a kid and then... None of them are great singers. Jordan's the best singer in the band by far.

Joey's voice changed after Please Don't Go Girl. He was like a kid and then... None of them are great singers. Jordan's the best singer Please Don't Go Girl. He was like a kid and then, yeah. Joey. None of them are great singers. Jordan's the best singer in the band by far, but. Joey was good on Broadway too. Oh yes.

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Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I'm gonna young Rob Bruce.

What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? This is like a demo or what? What the fuck is happening here? You're blowing my mind. It's a mind blow. It's your mind blow. Hey girl. Hey girl. In your eyes. In your eyes. I see a picture of me all the time. Is this like some like Estonian band or something? Oh, you explain yourself Rob.

Yeah, what's going on? What the fuck is going on here? This is a band, wait, what are they called? Damn it, I just lost the name. I have it if you don't have it. They were called The Superiors in 1987 on Motown records. Maurice star. It's Maurice star.

It's Maurice star song. So this was, they didn't go anywhere. Yep. And so he created, of course he created the kids on the block. Yeah. After new edition. So the new kids on the block version of step-by-step.

It's not the original release of this song. Yep. This was 1987. So three years earlier. New edition, Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, Mike, Ralph and Johnny. Yep. And then new kids on the block, Danny, Donnie, George on Jordan. Look at you. Come on now. This topic was made for Bob with it. Yes, it really was.

But I was excited to discover that it was a remake, but done by the same guy. So he was convinced his song still had some light. He knew to hit. It just didn't go anywhere. But you can hear the difference in the production from 87 the next year, shut Petty bone took George Michael eighty seven. The next year shut, petty bone took george michaels monkey and he sort of I think that morris gave the monkey mix a little bit. It's like his can't you do it? Yes, it's his own little version, so it's free, which is why I love the song so much. So it's interesting this version of it. What you

say like I would say as just a listener, the the production is like a little more open sounding. It's a little simpler yeah and like like almost like that. That little like I was like a like a cowbell almost sounding thing like that. That is a cab. Yeah and by ninety though there again. I keep saying new jack swing, but that's what it was. It was that like Bellevue Devo and boys demand boys demand. Yeah, boys man a little later, but it was all part of that. That was spider-man and freeze those those family. Yeah, that was that was the two producers ever missed a beat. Yeah,

but I think there was definitely a chef, petty bone influences well for sure, but that's what I mean. Yeah, which came, I mean from more. He's probably hearing what he had been doing with his remixes and stuff as well. So it's need to see that evolution within three years. And if you go back and you listen to that new edition stuff, the production is pretty bad on it. It's bad. It does not hold up. It's dated. And it's also, it's got, it's got like a, almost like a, I don't know, like it's thin, like it's so thin. There's nothing, there's nothing. There's no balls to it. You know? Yeah. See the name of the band? Ah, Superiors.

I gotta look them up. I know. That's hilarious. Hey, I could give you my Was this five black dudes? I don't really know. Yeah, cause that's the whole, cause his idea was to take new addition

and create five white kids. That part, the kids in the block, much better. That part, they're much more fun with that. Well, they made, they took advantage of each guy's singing style, right? Different style, right, right, right, right, right, right. But it's funny, you hear something like this? Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, but it's Yeah, yeah

Brought it today Rob and I agree with whoever a Canada Cab I think it was who said you won You know, there's no winners well, it was fun because like I feel like it's a very specific part of my life because like the like I said earlier I Love so much bad music because I'm just a fan quote unquote bad music, bubblegum pop, fun songs, novelty songs, funny songs, whatever. But then I love this new Limp Bizkit world of the faith cover too. Do you like Don't Worry Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin? It's OK. It's it got killed.

Yeah, I got killed. You know what song I've relearned to love, which I never loved in the beginning? Should have used it. I just called to say I love you, Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder. Yeah, I did not like it when it called to say I love you, Stevie Wonder. Like- Stevie Wonder, yeah. I did not like it when it came out. What about Say, Say, Say?

I always liked that. Yeah. Good keyboards. And Girl Is Mine, like those two are so good. But I just called to say I love you. Subsequently, as the years have gone on, like the music world has devolved in so many ways in the simplicity of the production. What about Circle Circle Dot Dot?

Oh yes. I don't know what that is. Oh, it's on that album over there, isn't it? It's a Jamie Kennedy. It's a oh really? It's a stew stone masterpiece that my daughter, Morgan, likes very. I've heard you talk about it, but I don't know it. No. Oh, you'll you know what? I should listen to it. Yeah, listen to it on the way home. Yeah. Hey, he's all right. What about right now? Crank it up, play it. Okay, very good. I enjoy my episode, the toast of you two. You'll be, you good. I enjoy my episodes of Toast with you two.

You'll be, you know what? And I really want to say thank you to Rob Pruse, who makes such an effort to be here in person. It's the most exciting thing for me to plan it because I get to come up and see my sister and my mom and my family and spend some time in Balenciaga as well. Oh yeah, this is a long weekend.

Yeah. Do you celebrate, yeah, let me ask you this. Do you celebrate Easter like religiously? Not really religiously. I mean, I've come to understand it. We're way to phrase it. Celebrating the rise, he is risen. He is risen already. I'm a chocolate bunny guy. Yeah, more than anything. Yeah, we had Easter egg hunts and but I appreciate it from the David and Goliath perspective. The celebratory

it's the most important. It's the most Christian. It's the most important because it's not like a birthday is one thing, but this is the fucking came back from the dead. Okay, name anyone anyone else fun fact. No one else has risen from the dead. Not that we know of Nobody that came back and wrote a great about it. Yeah I feel we know about it when I started with the humble and Fred show That was the same era in which they decided they were going to crucify their their producer danger boy Yeah, Jason Blunt. Yeah, that was the one number this they get out of it by saying cross cross. Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna hang them on a cross and they put Alan a cut of round cross. However, one of my

first stunt things as bingo bob was going out with danger boy and delivering chocolate Jesuses to people all around the city. We went into the Toronto Sun building and like Liz, we went to Liz bronze office and like yeah, and we miss braun. Yeah, we yeah, it's one of my favorite thing. We actually had them made. We actually we found a and again like just like there was a they already had the mold yeah for a chocolate Jesus and we ordered like I don't four hundred of them and we went through the city me and danger boy get no just just celebrating. We went to city hall. We got kicked out of sit out of Nathan

just celebrating. We went to city hall. We got kicked out of city. I don't need to flip square is like this is pure eight nineties radio bit and we have there. We were and we had a megaphone and we were there. Somebody on strike and we're yelling at them and giving them chocolate. Jesus. That's amazing. Yeah. So net. So I know these guys go well, like you do Bob. But so Fred Patterson was raised with no religion. So he never had religion. So unlike I was raised with religion, the humble Howard was raised with the Jewish faith and then at some point became like a culturally Jewish who was an atheist when it comes to religious beliefs. So those two guys didn't, they don't believe in anything now.

Okay. Well, yeah, Fred's an atheist for sure. I learned everything about Jesus. And actually this time I learned it when I got into the world of musical theater theater because I basically learned It all from Jesus Christ Superstar my favorite music tells the whole story and very succinctly you know adapts the stories from the Bible and Tim Rice was a genius putting that together because I would when I was learning that show was like this is so cool I have the original Brown album. Yeah, and Norman Jewison's movie obviously I saw this guitar player, uh, two weekends ago, uh, play in Connecticut named Chris bedding,

who was like an old rock guitar player. He's 79 years old. He, uh, he like played on the first sex pistols demos and he played with Paul McCartney and like all these people, but he played guitar on the original superstar Brown album. Shadow to the Fox theater on Queen street East, Sunday afternoon at 1 P.M, a sing along of Jesus Christ. No way. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm like, Oh, I might go, I know that movie. Uh, Mike will be interested. Jeff Hislop.

Just in the movie. No, yeah. He's waiting. Wait, wait, wait. What year? We're 70 71 71 71. So how old is Jeff? And so he was 23 because he has his office in that movie. Yeah. He's like one of the, I swear to God I'll send you like, like still images. Murray head is in that movie. Oh yeah. Sure. No, no, he's not. He's not in the movie. He's on the album. Yeah. Wow. I didn't see you guys know your shit. No, no, no. That's my favorite music by far.

Cause he's the one night in Bangkok guy. Yes. Jeff Heslip is the lead dancer in the film. So he was a young, he's got like a giant. Oh, what a mind blow of hair. Yeah. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And in all the group scenes where there's like the huge, what's the buzz dip? But yeah, there's Jeff is in the front of the group. Dan Peter has a great song where like, it's like, um, oh my gosh, I'm, I'm blanking on it. So he, but it is all dancing. And so you're,

I gotta look from there. Okay. So before I kick out your final jam, bub, sorry, are you a side track? No, I'm blanking on it. So he, but it is all dancing and so you're, I gotta look from there. Yeah. Okay. So before I kick out your final jam, Bob, sorry, are you a side track? No, I love my favorite musical. You know, we should kick out our favorite songs from musical. We've done that. I know we did. Yeah, we've done it. That's why it was a joke. That's the joke. I don't even remember. He doesn't. I literally do it again. It'd be all new songs. I'm going to, I'm trying to go see. I was struggled to come up with mine. joke. That's the job. I don't even remember. He doesn't. I literally do it again. It'll be all new songs. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm trying to go see I was struggled to come up with mine. Mervish is bringing lay Ms back right

like a yeah yeah for as a touring production, but and I've introduced it to my kids who like they love musical. So we were listening to the original London cast with Cole Moccasin and but the problem is fucking expensive man. They want one hundred and nine dollars for the balcony and bring four people. Yeah, that's quick question for you. I know you're unemployed. Quick question is are you like this is a recent development that you're a glasses all the time guy like so. Yeah, so these are my first progress. Yeah, these are my first progressive or trans progressive. These are my it's like Genesis and yes and so King

Crimson. Yeah, exactly. I then they said I didn't like programe. I have my left I not to get too detailed into things, but my left eye is so bad like you know when you go and you shout out to Lisa Lopez, my left eye, RIP. Is she dead? No which ones did okay? I seen a ring. You know, I like you like if you go get cheaters, they say like plus two point five two point. I got a balance. My left eye though is plus five point seven five. My left eye is basically useless, so you must be in heaven with the so this is amazing. So the reason I thought the mics were new yeah exactly as I said, I never see it.

That's why you thought I got a fac a face. This was so I really wanted it because I so I could while I'm driving, I could actually look at my GPS like on my phone, which I'd never been able to have to like put readers on. So these are my first yeah. So now long answer to your short question because you look smarter to me, but Rob, you agree it looks yeah. Yeah, growing up Harry Potter. It's true. Well, the beer, I got the winter beard going right now. I got to give it a trim and figure out

what your your lens. I'm interested in this because I probably should be wearing glasses too, but you got a circular more circular shape. Oh, the jobs are more like rectangle. So yeah, I mean, I took a lot of time. I brought my heart to choose my wife because I would never make such a decision on my own because I would choose. You know what I get? I get a Michael Enright vibe. I don't know who that is Michael and right the the radio star from CBC. I get a Michael Enright vibe. You can you look good though. I like you. Thank you. I'm just getting used to them. I was only two weeks with them right now. So and it's because

your brain starts to adjust where to look and like yes way to put your head because yeah. Remember your grandparents used to have like the bifocals and you could see the line. Homer Simpson, the best scene there when Homer's got his bifocals on. It's true. Yeah. All right. You, any words before you put it on?

Well, I had to do this. Okay. Look at this photograph. Every time I knew it makes me laugh How did our eyes get so red? And what the hell is on Joey's head? This is where I grew up I think the president fixed it up

I never knew we ever went without The second floor is hot for sneaking out And this is where I went to school Most of the time I'd better face the new Criminal record says I broke in twice I must've done that half a dozen times I wonder if it's too late Should I go back and try to graduate

Last man in the that it was back then If I was them I wouldn't let me in Oh, oh It's time to say it, time to say it. Goodbye, goodbye. I remember you walking out the front door. I found the photo of a friend that I was looking for. It's time to say it, time to say it. Goodbye, goodbye. Come on. Is this like 2000? Yeah, it's almost exactly 2000, I think. with good.

Come on, this is like two thousand. Yeah, I was almost exactly two thousand. I think Nickelback photograph. Yeah, how you remind me, I think was the first single right. Look, there was a time when I did hate Nickelback kind of with a blanket hate because that's what you're supposed to do and then I definitely not supposed to dig nickel back right now. You're not no, but they sell out the fucking amphitheater every you know every summer and they sell it across all North America shit load of album and sell a

shit load of albums and get a shit load of radio play and guess what it's good pop music. That's all it is. It's good pop music. This particular song this line Kim's the first girl I kissed my first girlfriend was Kim. So I was like, Yeah, so I was like, like when I was just 13, 14 years old and I heard that line. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, in grade school, I kissed a Kim, got a crush on and sadly in high school she got in a car accident and died. No, I'm sorry to hear that. But at least she got to kiss you. Yeah, she died. Have you went straight to heaven of a smile on her face like last kiss Pearl Jam where, oh where so which is their biggest billboard hot one. It is this. It is there is a so there's a there's a moment in my life where I did

have like I bought into the whole bullshit of like oh you're not these guys aren't cool. You know, I was like, I as I have grown up, I'm like like I bought into the whole bullshit of like oh you're not these guys aren't cool. You know I as I have grown up, I'm like I just gonna like what I like good. Yeah, this is a great song. I told you go see them in concert, so I was just about to say so I can't remember which tour it was, but I was I saw them at ACC. Okay, well, I took my cousin from Lindsay, my little cousin. She wanted to go. My cousin, Leisha wanted to go there big and Lindsay, they're massive in

Lindsay and Peterborough and every yeah for sure. Yeah and four one six things were too cool to like them number one in Huntsville. Guess what fucking great show. Holy hell like I've never seen so much pyro in a show. I'm going to refrain. I'm going to tell you my thoughts on this after I kick out my I'm going to reframe. I'm going to tell you my thoughts on this after I kick out my jam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, look, uh, I've had the, uh, I was at the Canadian songwriters hall of fame show where, um, Brian Adams got, uh, inducted at Massey hall last year and, uh, Chad and his brother come out and they did summer of 69 and it was that they fucking killed it, but the crowd was so dead.

I was like, I'm sorry. I had good seats. I'm like on the floor. I'm like, as soon as they come out, I'm on my first real six string. Is this in Toronto? Yes. Yeah. Toronto thinks they're too cool for Nickelback. Yes. And so I'm the only person who stands up and I got friends who are behind. And I was on your shoulders. And so Chad comes up. No, he like, he's like, I'm standing up like, yeah. And he's like, thank God somebody stood up right yeah and my

friends in the stand stills who are a great band out of Oshawa to be confused with the stills no, but which is another good band stills. Oh my God, still love, but the stand stills who you should have on they have. They I know you're not a modern rock guy. You're more of a you're not a mainstream rock guy. You're more of a modern rock. I have the mono whales on a couple of times. Mono whales. Are they mainstream rock? No, they're, they'd be on the indie and no, yeah, no, but I'm talking with somebody who'd be on 97 seven hits FM. The ma the mainstream rock. I had monster truck guy. Okay. So okay.

She's monster truck. Yeah. But they'd be in the same vein as monster truck. My friends, uh, Johnny and Renee, they're, uh, they're two piece. They're like a white strip. Snob. I know you should have them on. They're really good. They have some great music that gets air. But they're on the same. Uh, they have the same agent, uh, Ralph, um, no Ralph, Ralph, who is in Merg, Ben Merg, yeah, Ralph, Ralph, Cramden. Yes. To the moon Alice Ralph. So, but apparently he, they were so upset after the show because they, they felt like they fucking know it does a hundred percent.

Like you'd be talking to the core. There are pockets of this country that love Nickelback cause it's fucking great rock and roll. And then Toronto, which deems them like uncool. That's why you're kicking them out. And I'm wondering if we can continue this conversation on the other side of my chair. Let's do that. Ralph James, who is in Google. This is your last jam. This is my last jam. Everybody a song I dig from a band. I'm not supposed to dig until the ding. I am not a leader of men Since I prefer to follow Do you think I could ever drink? Since that's so hard to swallow So hard to swallow

I'm feeling so hot to swallow Turn your television off And I did you know Bob was last to get his picks in so I was I was surprised I got it through because I was either gonna so I was it was either that or I was gonna go with Bob What the Bob kid rock because you know one of each of us I like to I was gonna know I knew you did I thought you would have picked it. That's why I didn't pick it. Oh interesting Interesting that you felt one from each of us though. So so right quick So this is the first album I owned owned by the way the CD is called the state Yeah, the CD and there's a bunch of songs and they're old enough. There's a bunch of songs I actually legit, unironically love. Okay. This is before How You Remind Me, right?

That's the next album. So I, in this song here, like tell me Bob, is this not what I would call a fucking grunge song? Sounds like Soundgarden. Like the guitar sounds like bad motor finger style. And the harmonies, the voices too. Well that's the problem is they get all caught up on his voice being too processed and too forced. I don't like photographs. I didn't want to talk over yours because I'm about to kick off more Nickelback to talk about personally. I don't like photograph That's what I yeah, you know Nick go back. I mean who photographs sounded like to me was matchbox 20

Which is why right away I thought what? Not a big Nick. No, I mean either but that sound that's why I thought immediately of rock town this is yeah Well, yeah, that would have been like this will push at 3 a.m. Or what 98 97. Okay. Yeah, that's same era though Yeah, shifting shifting decades. Absolutely. Okay, so leader of men is the name of the song Chad and Ryan peak wrote this song it's on the state the state comes out in 1998 wow I always dug the state and whenever when people were shitting on Nickelback I'd be good go listen to the state the state is a good fucking album okay this was the first single and they played it on 102.1 and that's where I heard it it went to number 11 on the Canadian top rock songs it went to

number 8 on the US Billboard mainstream rock chart it went to number 21 on the alternative rock chart when I hear this song I hear a grunge song I know we're in 98 so we're post grunge but it sounds like a grunge song to me. And on the state, where are we in this song here? They like this song so much it appeared on their album The State twice, which is a move I want to talk to you about. So the first version was the electric version and this is the acoustic version. So they open with the first version was the electric version. And this is the acoustic version. So they open with the electric version. They close with the acoustic version.

I'm sorry. This is a different song now. This is a different song. See, to me, it sounds like just a breakdown. It's the same song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. We should play the same song again. Can you play a different track on the CD? Here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do.

Okay? It's the same song. We'll play them together. It is a different song. You ready? Yep. ["I Am Not Alone"] Same key? A different guitar, right?

Not much different. Sounds like touch, feel, and stand. They complement each other. ["I Tell You Friends Not To Think I Love You"] Well, it's gone out of time here. ["I Tell You Friends Not To Think I Love You"] No, it's the same song! Yeah.

Well, it's the same song but once acoustic Don't know the Nickelback talk except to say that we're not supposed to dig Nickelback No I think the state holds up and if you listen to old enough and that one and there's a couple other big jams on That they got a lot of radio play. So it's the third track, just the correct. Okay. So the third track on the state is the electric version of leader of men and the final song on the track, which is number 11 is the acoustic version of leader of men. And that's a move when you see an album have the same song twice, like

different versions, the same song twice. That's an interesting move, right? And have you ever seen a concert where the band played the same song twice? Yes. Yeah, we used to do that. The Kings switch into glide. We used to play Nova Heart twice in the early days. We didn't have enough songs to play. So we were like, that's quite the move. Craig Venn tells a story. They, uh, Q one Oh seven was doing something at like Dundas square. And when he was with Derringer still and like, you know, they got switching the glide and What's the this beat goes on? Yeah Open with the two together and it was like what the fuck's next. Yeah, they play for a half an hour

Yeah, nobody knows and then they end with it again. Yeah. Oh my god That's gives me a weird flashback because we used to do that with no heart. That's a that's Craig. That's a Craig Venn story I give him shout out to the Mike Craig Venn and Lucky show there at 94.9 The Rock. Yeah, and of course, he does the hockey games, doesn't he? Yeah, he's on CBC now. He's doing a whole bunch of games. Mike Luck, good for him.

Very, very good guy. It's pointed out in the live stream. We're done now, but it's pointed out in the live stream. No female voices heard in this episode. Only Debbie Gibson. It's Debbie Gibson. Oh yeah, Debbie Gibson. Yeah.

Okay, you're wrong in the live stream. There you go. Fuck you, live stream. But not in a band, but yes. Also we played a female singer when we played Working Man by Rush. And Jordan Knight has a good falsetto. Yes he does. But fun fact that you probably maybe didn't hear it, but we had a sponsor that made like power tools and the woman in marketing came over to kick out the like power tool jams and

Working man by rush was kicked out and she referred to the female singer It was good to hear a woman a woman singing about working man amazing early 70s and because she's a sponsor I have to bite my fucking lip. No, you should have caught what I know But because she they cut a check and they only they could have and they didn't renew I could have had fun with that but I did tell her I'm surprised you did. I know I did correct her. No, I correct her. But I would have on air ripped her on the air. I corrected her. Of course. I said, it might surprise you to know that Getty Lee is a man.

Okay. All right. But I would have like ripped her a new one. Someone else did that. Right. Oh, interesting. Okay. But I didn't, I just called off the dog. I think this is the end of the episode. I hear the song. I know the closing theme. We're getting played off like the academy awards. So bird songs is next. I think we should do birds birds. Let's do it. I'll tweet you all about it. Oh, it doesn't exist anymore. I'll ask you. Yeah, exactly. Bob. Good to see you again, buddy. Thank you for having me. Nice to see you guys. Happy Easter. Happy. Have a good weekend. Yeah. Easter and good to see the banana splits, man. Make sure

the photo you have it open. Yeah. The Canadian tuxedo over the to see the banana splits, man. Make sure the photo, you have it open. Yeah, for sure. The Canadian tuxedo over the banana splits t-shirt. And I like that Bob represents the Argos. The Argos need more love. I also have, yeah, and second city hat. And I have TTC street cars on my socks. I have queen socks on. I have rush trucking socks.

What is wrong with us? Rush trucking socks. We clearly have too much money. Oh I have rush trucking socks. What is wrong with us? Rush trucking socks. We clearly have too much money. Oh my God, too much merch. Thank you to everybody in the live stream. Not just Andy and J-Ho, but Canada Kev and Hey Ref. And of course, all our friends that made an appearance here today.

See you all. Maybe I should go back to my extra script here. Hold on here. Before the song ends. Yeah, to my extras script here. Hold on here. Before the song ends. Yeah, before the song ends here. Okay, here we go. This ain't working. And that, that brings us to the end of our 1,462nd show.

Bob is racing to the toilet right now. I'll be right behind him. You can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky Matt Toronto Mike. Of course, Rob Pruss is Rob Pruss X and Bob Ouellette is at Bob Ouellette. It's like Gillette with a W. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. That was delicious, the Great Lakes. Rob, did you enjoy your Great Lakes? I really enjoyed the old Canuck Pale Ale. Okay, and I had my burst. But coming off the press right now is the Sunnyside Pale Ale is out.

So as soon as I get my hand on some of those, I'll drink that all summer long. I love that Sunnyside Pale Ale. No, Sunnyside IPA, not a pale ale, Sunnyside IPA. Shout out to Great Lakes Brewery, shout out to Palma Pasta, RecycleMyElectronics.ca, Raymond James Canada, the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team, and Ridley Funeral Home. Go check out the last couple of episodes of Life's Undertaking with Brad Jones because we kick out the most popular funeral jams and it's pretty fucking awesome. It's really good. See you all Tuesday when Bruce Dobigan will be here in the

basement for another stimulating discussion. See you all then.