Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST28: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1495

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

In this 28th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out jam jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral H...ome, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Yes, We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Happy Memorial Day weekend. Happy Memorial Day. Oh, it's American. Oh, because Rob's American. No, I'm not, but I got a day off, so that's how I could come up here though. Oh, very nice. Okay, what is your day job, Rob?
Starting point is 00:02:18 Remind us. I can't ask that question to Bob. You can't? My day job really hit hard today. Son of a. I'm still a musician. I'm day job. Wow, you're really hitting hard today. Son of a. I'm still a musician. I'm just jealous. Bob, you know I'm just jealous.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I want your job. I see you at these curling events. Oh, sorry. Let's go back to what Rob does. What's your day job again? Teaching music with my wife to little kids and little motherfuckers as I call them, but they're really cute kids
Starting point is 00:02:43 because they're anywhere from like, oh my God, we, we go to one little school of like pre-k kids. We go all the way to like grade five kids. Uh, and, and this is our busy time cause it's the end of the year we go in and like, uh, prepare them for graduation ceremonies and things. So it's like, it's like a, and then we have other classes that we do with other kids as well. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:03 it's, it surprisingly fills our time. Oh yeah, that's my old day job. I loved your intro to that episode by the way. Before we check in with Bob Willett, we gotta find out how he's doing. We love Bob Willett on this program. Yes we do. Before we get to Bob Willett,
Starting point is 00:03:19 do you know who visited me on Friday, Rob? I do. It was, I was so excited and happy to see them here. Oh I left a little message for them and you played it too. Yeah I was gonna say I learned you call these kids motherfuckers. I don't know if that's cool. It's not. No I'm only joking for us adults. So okay let's just okay we talk so often about how you are a co-writer for Spoon's Romantic Traffic. Yes. We talk about it every month. Can we get off romantic traffic already? But you're a co-writer for this song. Yeah, did you know that Bob? I think I did Yeah, as a matter of fact, so this is honeymoon sweets love changes everything and what did you what did you add to this composition?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Magic. Ah, there you go. I was just in the room and that's what happened. Well, I was trying to get this out of dairy Okay, so actually you know what? I am I appreciated dairy's His sort of answer because it's a little hazy when your co-writer's like... The room wrote it, he said. The room wrote it. So if you're in the room, you get a co-writer. Yeah, because what happened was when we got off the road after the, after touring for the big prize and we had all this time to write, we were going to a rehearsal studio every day, Johnny, Derry and I. And basically, Derry would have some ideas, I would have some ideas, Johnny would have some ideas, And we would just mess around, right?
Starting point is 00:04:25 And songs sort of morph and become a thing. And before you know it, we were kind of pretty sure that songs that we all felt like we had contributed to would become cool rights. But Derry almost always would finish lyrically. I did contribute some lyrics as well. I love hearing those stories. I mean, the Tragically have had a very specific way
Starting point is 00:04:41 of writing music. And if you notice, all of their stuff is always the Tragically have on purpose. specific way of writing music. And if you notice, all of their stuff is always the Tragically have. Exactly. On purpose, they said that right at the beginning. Zane Lowe of Apple Music just did an hour with Pearl Jam in their warehouse. And they talk a lot about how their last album came together. It's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:58 That's cool. Yeah. I love here. And Metallica is some kind of monster. I love all those back. How did this song come to be? Yeah. And sometimes it's a hazy thing. But like in bands where they have pretty clear cut comp composers, like say with Queen, even all four guys wrote songs. And then you hear
Starting point is 00:05:15 stories afterwards, like, well, they would fight about the arrangement and stuff, but somebody brought in the fundamental beginning of the song. Which song brings in more money and it might only be pennies. I don't know, but romantic traffic or love changes everything. What has been better for your bank account? Strangely, well, maybe not strangely, but romantic traffic definitely over the years. I think it gets more airplay. Yeah, for sure. And I think I told you guys before, I didn't know or I forgot at the time, it wasn't really much of a radio hit. It was more about the fact it was on much music. I think it only got to like 55 or something on the charts. It didn't make it. Yeah. You said that we looked it up too.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah. Yeah. Weird. But anyways, I think subsequently it's become like a fave, which I like. Okay. I'm going to assume Bob O'Lett has not heard the honeymoon suite episode of Toronto might. I was listening to, uh, I was trying to listen to our friend, uh, John Gallagher spike on the phone, but when he opens with my pants are around my ankles and just like, Oh, come I was trying to listen to our friend John Gallagher, Spike. John Gallagher! When he opens with my pants around my ankles and just like, oh, come on, man. I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I love that chat, actually. He's just so familiar. And I like him doing sports on City TV. I really did. As a radio host, not always my favorite guy. Just not my style. And I know he has a style that people love. So that was my chosen. That's the Coke, right? Well, I mean he has a style that people love so I would that was my chosen coke, right?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Well, I mean he still talks that way now, so I don't think he's doing blow now But it has a lingering I will admit I have not listened to okay So I'm gonna pull the clip because I want to ask Rob. So Rob When did you hear it because you were not able to hear it live? No, I listened to snip We were with the kids that morning and I listened to a few snippets when I could other fuckers. Yes. Those cute little kids. It's going to stick now. I know. Um, I was set it on the honeymoon suite. I did. I listened to a few snippets, but only fractions. But then when I was driving up on Friday, I listened to the whole thing. Okay. So you've
Starting point is 00:06:55 heard this. Bob hasn't heard this. This is a very short clip. I know what you're going to, you know, exactly. I bet. Cause I was wondering when I, when it happened live, my thoughts were of you and how you'd react to hearing it live. And I was like, cause I was, okay, because I was wondering when I, when it happened live, my thoughts were of you and how you'd react to hearing it live. And I was like, cause I was setting up. I, so just to tell Bob what was going on. I'm now, I have a clip from Rob Bruce to play, but they don't know I have this. So I'm now setting up a Rob, I'm setting them up by asking them a very simple question. And then when I hear the magic words, which are Rob Bruceuse, I'm going to play Rob Pruse's message.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I've got this in my head. Okay. I already know what's happening. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Jerry, how many keyboardists says Honeymoon Suite? Now you've got your guy for a long time here, Peter there, but how many keyboardists did
Starting point is 00:07:36 you guys burn through in your time together? Oh man. Oh, I started off with a totally different. Yeah. There was an original one Then rain and rain and then Peter and that's that's all I have a Special message for you guys. So you're gonna hear it in your home You feel it again gonna be stuck in my head for a long time now
Starting point is 00:07:59 But here's a special message that just came in from you guys. Hey Mike, it's Rob Could have zoomed in I love to say hello to your special guests today. Okay, now listen. I thought it was the funniest thing, because I know those guys, and listening to them, it's never a surprise. What a softball question. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Name your keyboardists. And they named everyone but you. But I also liked at the beginning. No, they called the original guy. There was a guy before Ray. Yeah, they said the original guy. They didn't name liked it the beginning called the original guy. There's a guy before Ray Yeah, they said the original guy didn't they name him. No, I know the original guy was But I liked at the beginning of the show though, too Johnny said made a funny comment about yeah, man, we go through a lot of keyword players. Oh, which is sort of true. But yeah
Starting point is 00:08:37 Knowing those guys and knowing their personalities. They're they're like a magic team. They're like an old married couple You know sort of like Gordon Sandy spoon in the same way. Yeah, like an old married couple, you know, sort of like Gordon Sandy Spoon in the same way. Like I think- Do they remember you? I'm not sure. I don't know because they played last night at the Bowie alley. Oh, so okay, so we won't spend the whole two hours on Honeymoon Suite, except that it's kind of neat
Starting point is 00:08:54 to have members of your band over and you had that clip and that was a moment where I'm like in live in real time, I'm like, just say the name Rob Bruce. Like I was gonna say, does it rhyme with, you know, Bob Zeus? Dr. Seuss. Dr. Seuss. But then I'm like, I'm just going to play this and then they can feel like assholes. And then, and then you got to say, and Rob co-wrote this song, by the way, that guy you couldn't remember. That's right. Cause you co-wrote that song. That's right. Can we get off the honeymoon? Sweetheart? Anyways, I, I love listening to them and I'm so glad they finally got to meet you. So they played a bowling alley. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:09:25 All that place in Mississauga, right? Classic bowl. Classic bowl. So they played that on Friday night. That's why dairy was in town. Cause dairy lives in Nashville. So he's in the basement and then he's off to do soundcheck and he's playing the bowling alley. The very next night, spoons are playing the ball. So how is it that you, cause you're here for toast. So let's just process this Bob. Yeah. Rob who's a New York guy is in the GTA because of toast. But on Friday night, one of his bands is playing live.
Starting point is 00:09:53 On Saturday night, his other band is playing live. But you're here for toast. Yes. Does that compute? You must have really pissed all those people off. Well, I haven't really played with them in a long time anyways. And they'll say, yeah, Well, you know, I mean, I haven't really played with them in a long time anyways. And everyone, you know, they'll say,
Starting point is 00:10:07 yeah, sure, drop by, whatever. And I just sort of, I sort of didn't really have the time to make, because I'm seeing my family as well. And it's a very short trip anyways. And if you go, it's not like, as a keyboardist, it's a lot more involved than just bringing a guitar out. I would imagine. Yeah, like I would imagine you'd have to bring one with you or use his or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And then at the border, they're going to be like, hey, you're going to make money. And you're like, yeah, they don't mind doing that because I'm Canadian. And you're you probably have nexus in it. So yeah, fair enough. But I just think it's funny. They've done gigs together to work like my friends are like, you should just go and hang up on stage. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I play together. They did say you were invited to join them on Friday night. Oh, that's very nice. Oh, you could. There goes my, there goes my theory that they, they, you piss them all off. They forgot my name anyway. Real talk, Bob. Could there be a human who doesn't like Rob Bruce? Like, isn't he the nicest human on the problem? He, you know, I, I mean, I'd imagine there might be a couple, but nobody that I would, nobody that I would like if they don't like him, if they don't like him, I don't like that. He's such a lovely man.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Even if somebody didn't like me, I try to find the reasons why and then try to understand. And that's why you're so likable. I guess, I don't know. Although I did piss somebody off yesterday at the Dairy Queen and I feel bad about it. What did you do?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Well, my niece and I were waiting to order and we were standing back because they were doing a lot of drive-through orders. So we sort of stood back to give them a second and then this lady came in and busted right in front of us like to the counter to order and we were standing back because they were doing a lot of drive-through orders. So we sort of stood back till give them second and then this lady came in and busted right in front of us to as like to right to the counter to order. And I was like, excuse me, we didn't already. And she's like, well, you were standing way back there. I said, yeah, but we haven't ordered yet. And then I felt guilty about it. After I bet you she was like,
Starting point is 00:11:35 okay, cool. I'll just go behind you then she did. Yeah. I'm sure she's totally forgot about it. She's Canadian. This was in Canada, right? I know. Yeah. It was on Applebee line. And then you're, you'd have been shot. Well, that's the thing. It's I know exactly but I alright, let's find out how the wonderful Bob would let us doing Well, thank you for calling me wonderful. I'm doing well. Thank you. I just got your wonderful Don't crack that open yet Robert. We do it after Bob's up. We had to reschedule We were originally at noon, but I was this morning I was up in Alastin at the nadaata was Saga Resort for my nine year old's dance competition breaking grounds. I know breaking bounds it's called and
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm a dance dad now yeah three far to go like I want to Hamilton I once had to go to Hamilton for my daughter's dance and I'm like this is we've done calling what it's the furthest this one was we were there from Friday night on and she had three performances and did very well. Wow! Finna her she's in a like nine in under group or something. Did you say over Friday night? Oh yeah, Friday and Saturday night. Oh yeah and then yeah and the her her little group won best choreography for two of the three and also finished second overall in all kids, 12 all groups, 12 and under 37 different groups in all and all dances. It's pretty we're pretty Leslieville school of dance. Shout out to them super
Starting point is 00:12:51 cool. Pretty amazing lesson. The school of dance is amazing. Well yeah, so I that was that's why we had to push this back to six o'clock. They got you waited for being so amiable to that yeah yeah and still not working in radio Yeah, yeah, and still not working in radio and but I do have a job. What's your new job? Well, right now I'm training. I'm still not fully licensed yet, but we guess he's gonna be like, please do. Yeah, hold on. Life guard, life. You need to you're getting, you're getting smart serve certified. You need to you're getting you're getting smart serve certified. You're going to serve alcohol. No, I already
Starting point is 00:13:29 am smart serve certified. Yeah. No, I already got that. But I'm not working with your training. You're going to teaching improv. No, I'm I am too. I'm still doing second city. I'm going. Oh, it's kind of a return to a certain industry for me. Okay, then let's learn. You were a DJ. Oh, don't need a license for that. Your mail mail escort again. No, you don't need a license for that. No, I'm returning. Oh, you're gonna be a bingo caller. Very close because you were bingo. Bob was bingo. Bob, you're a bingo caller. Yep. Very close. I'm
Starting point is 00:14:02 training to be a poker dealer at the casino. Wow, I'm going to deal poker at the CNE casino and probably right now I've been doing it for both three weeks now and it's the first job that I've seen posted that was not related to media that I was like yeah, I want that you know what you'd be good at that you gotta, yeah, I think I could see you doing that. So I'm the, yeah, the poker room makes a lot of money there. And uh, so they, you know, you, there, uh, I, I'm there like four days a week, three, three and a half hours a day down at the CNE. That's another reason why I know to cut through the CNE again. Remember
Starting point is 00:14:38 that I've been down there. Yeah. And, um, it starts the casino, uh, starts July 23rd. So it starts a couple of weeks before the CNE and then it goes right through to the end of the CNE. I'll have my license and then after that I'll probably apply to like Woodbine and Ajax and Pickering. Wow. Maybe even Mohawk. Yeah. I love what I'm hearing, man. That sounds like a cool, cool gig. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. And I've been talking to, uh, uh, the people at Seneca college about possibly maybe going and teaching in the fall, but we're still working on that. I feel like an F a valued FOTM just quit his job at the phone company.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It might be working there. Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'll tell you more. After the recording, we can't get them up. Okay. Let's crack open our great lays. Congrats. The ball. We didn't even count down. We're so good. So, okay. What do you, I'm, So okay, when I know you guys are coming over, I put a couple of loggers out. A couple of loggers out for Bob O'Lett. I put a Canuck out. I bought a couple of other Great Lakes today at the liquor store.
Starting point is 00:15:37 What did you buy? Because I'm drinking the Sunnyside Session IPA. I don't think you've ever offered this, but I bought one Pompous Ass. Well, I just, yeah, that's a great beer. I used to have it in the beginning, but then I stopped buying the, bought another one called Hayes Mama.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Okay, that is a MF's favorite. Is it? Okay, I've never, I just, I like the name, so I picked them because I've never seen them down here. Okay, Hayes Mama is great, but you bang a couple of those down and you can't go drive in anywhere, you can't go drive in anywhere. Can I shout out my nephew, Nico Dawes,
Starting point is 00:16:05 who was with Team Canada. Yeah. They unfortunately didn't get the bronze today, they came in fourth. Yeah. But Czech won the gold today. Czech Republic, yeah, yeah. All right, oh, Czechia, sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Czechia, not Czechia. Czechia, my apologies. So they were hosting and they won against Swiss. Oh, they were hosting, I didn't watch very much of it. Yeah, it was all in Prague. Oh, that's amazing. I didn't watch any of it, although typically I tune in. Prague's amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Have you been to Prague? I've been to Prague, yeah. Prague's unbelievable. My sister just happened to be in Germany visiting our relatives in the last couple of weeks when Nico got the call to go and join the team. So they drove to Prague and watched the very first game and Nico happened to play that game as well and they won.
Starting point is 00:16:36 So it worked out good. He was the third goalie. He was the third striker. So he just played that first goal, that first game, but he was part of the team. Good, awesome. Okay, speaking of hockey, and I'm gonna just point out, no money has changed hands in this deal,
Starting point is 00:16:48 but an FOTM wrote a book of his son, that FOTM is Bruce Dobigan, and he wrote, and it's got the forward by another FOTM, Steve Paken, he wrote, so Bruce wrote this with his son, Evan, who lives not too far, he lives in Long Branch, and it's called Deal With It, the trades that stunned the NHL and changed hockey.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And I mean, I don't know about you, Bob, but I love this shit. Like I love. Oh me too. No, no, I want to hear the stories behind this. So you guys get a free copy. Thank you. Of Deal With It.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And I'm just gonna let the listenership go. There it is, there it is. Number five. Chapter five, a killer deal. The Leafs come that close. There you go. Amazing. I was just talking to my brother-in-law the other day about the fact that the Leafs coaches now with the Devils, which is my nephew's to and it's so interesting and how they fired their coach and he's now with
Starting point is 00:17:29 the Buffalo Sabres and Right. Oh, that's the way that they swat people around You know being a head coach in the NHL is like being hired for radio. You just get hired to be fired That's all. Yeah, and you bounce around they need right you need a scapegoat. You gotta let somebody go and they're like, okay He's moving on a couple of shout outs here quickly to some FOTMs. One is Midtown Gord who really loved the honeymoon suite episode and Midtown Gord is celebrating a birthday today. So is my wife. So is my wife. It's my wife Leah's birthday today too. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And you came here to Midtown Gord. She must love you or hate you so much right now. She has some friends she was celebrating with one of of our friends daughters turning 11 years old today. And so they got to spend it together as well. So is this the keeper? Like Rob, is this the final way? Oh yeah. I mean, at this point it looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:18:13 This is wife seven, right? Yeah. How long you been together? We've been together for almost 14 years. Oh yeah. That's a long time. Married for 11 years. That's the longest, right?
Starting point is 00:18:22 Of all, close. Close? And how many wives again? Before this one too. This is his third marriage. This is my third. For some reason I had you at five or six. I must be thinking.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But that's like you had me at like 60 something years old. I think I'm confusing you with VP of sales, I think. So shout out to Midtown Gourd. Yeah, happy birthday. And I want to shout out Jeremy Hopkins, the official historian of the Toronto Mike podcast. He always dresses so well. He dressed, he's doing a doors open Toronto today.
Starting point is 00:18:46 He curated and I biked to Leeside to check it out and to spend some time with Jeremy Hopkins and it was good to see him and he knows his shit. And I learned a lot about the old Leeside. There was an old airport, like it was the only airport in town before they built the one in Malton that is now known as. The planning of Leeside really messed up the city in general. If you look at it, because if you look all the city is grids until leeside and then you get in the gut all these little their little crescents and circles and stuff. There's a there's a really
Starting point is 00:19:13 interesting story there because they that's what fucked up the city. Well, it's one of many things. Yes, I have a really hard time defending this city right now as a as a staunch lover of it as as I'd like to, if it wasn't, you know, trademarked, I'd call myself Toronto Bob, but you can license it from but maybe was I'll start a franchise, I'll start it. I'll start an east end franchise right, but it's hard right. I think I told you as much one day. Yeah, I think you did
Starting point is 00:19:43 when you were between gigs. Yep. But then you got another radio gig. You did. And we were talking about it. But you can handle it all. And now you've lost you to the casino. Well, we'll see. OK, so do you guys remember we kicked out Jibberish Jams?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yes. And I played this. Oh, yeah, you kicked this one out. And then we talked about how the Simpsons used it for In the Garden of Eden and all that stuff. The guy who wrote this and sings on it and maybe plays on it. I think he does everything with this song. Just passed away. So, uh.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Iron butterfly. Iron. Doug Ingle. That's what they said in the Simpsons. So two things. So Doug Ingle passed away. I just want to recognize that. Uh, you know, we just played it and the guy who wrote it and
Starting point is 00:20:18 sings on it just died. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home for Doug Ingle. Yeah. But also it's kind of a jam. And today the theme We're gonna get to it very shortly is our we're kicking out jam jams Jam jams, right? So basically jams that are jams like true jams and then we'll discuss as we kick about like what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:20:41 But I consider this a jam am I out to lunch well yes it's a long song that goes on and I bet you if you saw it live it would be twice as long that would make I think that's what makes it a jam is I thought from my and when we get to it my criteria was bands that jam out live is really what yeah which is interesting because one of my choices I don't know how often they played live together but we we'll see. Oh, cool. So yeah, so that'll be coming up when I kick out White Gems 2 is trying to define this one because is it just like Grateful Dead and Fish?
Starting point is 00:21:12 Or is it like, like, so to me, I kind of feel like I know a jam when I hear it. It's usually very long. And yeah, I think live it could go on forever. And I think the song might qualify, but shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Doug Engel has passed away but he's not the only guy I want to recognize. I'm going to turn them, by the way we're going to listen to all 25 minutes of this song before we- This is a jam, this is a jam.
Starting point is 00:21:33 We can't play all the music today because everyone's songs are so fucking long. And somebody came with apparently a bunch of side tracks. Oh we're going to talk about that but I want to play a song and hopefully Rob can take over. This is my jam. This does go on and on forever. Especially when you're on the ride and it goes through every country and the arrangements change as you're going on the boat and you get into all the different... Don't worry this is not one of his jam jams but why are we playing this song Rob? Uh tribute to Richard M. Sherman who passed away yesterday at the age of like 95.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Oh, wow. He wrote this song with his brother. I just rode this ride in October for the first time. For the first time. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, Richard passed away. His brother died like 12 years ago or so. And I mean, they've written some of the most.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Well, they wrote for Disney for decades, right? Like classic songs. The Mary Poppins songs. All of them. And that Chim Chiminey, Chim Chiminey, Chpins songs, all of them. And that Chim Chiminy, Chim Chiminy. I believe it's Chim Chimery. Supergala, Fragilistic, XPL, like all those songs. They did all those?
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah, yeah. All these songs. And this song. And this song. And this song actually premiered. It's now the 60th anniversary because it was premiered at the World's Fair in New York City in Queens, 1964. So 50th anniversary, 60th anniversary. So the
Starting point is 00:22:45 world's fair was 64 and expo was 67 to separate things, right? The world's fair in, it was in Queens, New York for two years, 64, 65. Oh wow. And I think that Bob raises a good point. Did they merge? Like that's like, is there a world's fair still in that? Like, is there, I remember expo in World's Fair still and that like is there a remember Expo in Vancouver? Yes and 92 no no no six eighty six expo eighty six right sorry thank you but that's like the last one I remember yeah me too over here where's that what happened the internet came along you don't need to go to yeah but did we ever get an expo no I don't think we call it doors open Toronto yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:23:24 comes to your door All right. I do remember the C&E years ago. They used to do like some kind of international thing I think we're all the four York Festival of beer like we call it No, but they'll have themed like the beat this is Australia year. Yeah, and they'll have a room Well, you said care of caravan caravan. Yeah, they have now, you know, they have they have Kara saga and Kara Bram Well, my kid was a kid was at Kara Saga yesterday. Well, the reason I have my my my my smart serve is because I served booze at the finish caravan. I met the guy at the bingo hall and he had he was like I need people to pour
Starting point is 00:24:00 drinks and so I served I think at the finn. I think it was finished at caravan drinks. And so I served, I think at the Fin, I think it was finished at Caravan. Wow. A lot of vodka. I had my smart serve because I served beer at the, I served Great Lakes beer at the grilled cheese challenge. Oh, there you go. One year. And then because I had it, they had me serve beer at Rib Fest. And it's like, I'm not going to brag, but the money was like inconsequential. I'm like, take the money.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I just like to do this. It was fun. It was fun. Isn't it fun having- I'm like, take the money. I just like to do this. It was fun, yeah. It was fun. Isn't it fun having- I'm not doing it for the 14 bucks an hour. Isn't it fun having the undercurrent of the underscoring music to be at The Small World while we're talking?
Starting point is 00:24:33 While we're talking about this. This is Jam Jam. Oh, so guys, I'm on social media. I can't remember which one, but I'm on a few of them. And there's a discussion, maybe it's Reddit actually. They're discussing the Toronto accent. And I was very interested in this conversation because I am Toronto Mike and I'm born and raised here. And I really don't have any
Starting point is 00:24:50 awareness of a Toronto accent, but I'm going to play this person's known as plush with two H's at the end. And this was kind of going viral as an example of the Toronto. So yeah. So if you're not from Toronto, like let's say, I don't know, you're some guy in Atlanta, Georgia, and you're listening. So that's what they sound like in Toronto. Like you would think, Oh, that's the accent in Toronto. So I'm going to play it. And then us three, I know you're a Burlington guy, Mr. Bruce, but you're close enough that we can discuss. Like, have you ever heard anyone in the city talk like this? Okay. So here's an example of the Toronto accent her name is plush
Starting point is 00:25:27 youtuber fam that famous youtuber who plays basketball okay showtime that we shoot that left his mom in the hood and he fucking he left his mom in the hood but he moved into a condo yeah that kid he's bitch I thought was a virgin you should go holla at that thing he think he lives in the hood with his mom still at least at least I stay with my people until I can get out because when I get out, I'm gonna get my people out. But you sir got out and you left your people I think. Cause yo, be careful.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I think your exes, I think your ex is out here talking your mumbo gumbo on the internet family. Anyway, shorty, he's a virgin. You should holla at him. Might be better than your ex, the ball family. Anyway, shorty, he's a virgin, you should holla at him. Might be better than your ex, the ball player. You don't know, I think we got the idea fam. No cap, fam. But do you know anyone, you can hear there's a little
Starting point is 00:26:14 patois in there, like a Jamaican influence, like when we heard Darren O'Brien, AKA Snow, and he had a big hit with Informer, and they're like, hey, you're a white guy, why do you sound like that? He's like, yeah, I hang with a bunch of Jamaicans, and this is how do you sound like that? He's a guy I hang off a bunch of Jamaicans and this is how we talk or whatever. So is this somebody who's hanging with a bunch of Jamaicans and has picked up a little bit of that patois and it's just sort of like amplified it.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Have you ever met anybody in the gta who talks like this fam if I'm going to work on it fam yeah yeah fam Rob. Proust says no if I may offer a little Rob Bruce says no, if I may offer a little pressure, so a lot of this and what's that we need some first a little on the so first of all, this is an age thing for sure. This is people for who are under twenty three. I would say it is completely. I would say Drake, but then before that it's Cardi as well Cardinal official. He brought that pathway into the Canadian hip hop scene as well as me, she me and that has really proliferated. He was born in Jamaica. Yeah. And so I think Cardi was too,
Starting point is 00:27:18 but so what's happened and I have got in on to a certain algorithm on my tick tock, which I have no posts on. I just watch things and I've gotten onto an entire world of this is how some of these youths speak today. Yeah, yeah fam, and let me tell you, as a somebody who is training at the CNE to become a dealer with a bunch of people who are much, much younger than me, there are a few of these kids who speak this way and it is I'll tell you what also I have at my age. I have friends who are from downtown Toronto, East and Toronto, who still who have the beginning of this, who have this and that and yo guy
Starting point is 00:27:58 and it like not someone like a brewery or Martin instead of Martin. That's you. You're a Martin guy, right? So I I'm I'm I'm always I'm fascinated by language and I'm fascinated by the etymology of things where they come from. Like right now, the big thing member in the in the eighties, it was like like this, like that, like this right now, it's remember in the in the eighties, it was like like this, like that, like this right now, it's
Starting point is 00:28:31 it is. I mean, I mean is if you listen for people to say, I mean it will drive you crazy. Everybody, especially under forty, say I mean that's fine and it's everywhere. So this is all part of that. It's part of the hip hop influence going back to cardinal official and Drake, if I may say. And so there are people who speak like this. Yes. And a lot of them actually are in the outskirts. It's very suburban. It is actually a lot more. And it's a lot of people who are maybe first generation Canadians who would who would identify only and I'm only saying it because I've seen it would identify as Brown, Brown people who, who, who identify that way and they talk that way there. And they like, yo, Matt, they'll, they're mad hate on Brampton and Mississauga and all this.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I can't work mad into my lingo in that way that I hear. Look at me. I mean, come on. I'm from, I grew up world. So anyways, that's if I may. Yeah. Well, I knew you guys were the experts. I had to bring it up. I haven't heard that before and I thought maybe they were putting us on like pretending. No, no, no. She, I mean, that is the extreme version of it and you're not going to get a job
Starting point is 00:29:34 in the city. If you go into an interview and speak that way, I don't think not and maybe maybe some places, but I don't know where you could have that. I don't even call it that. I want to call it an accent because that makes it sound like it's like almost like inherent, but it's put on it's a pattern, a speaking pattern that is exaggerated. Right. Says the white guy in his forties. So fair enough, but that's all we have here. Oh, except we have Rob, a white guy in his fifties. That's right. Thank you to Cambrio who
Starting point is 00:30:03 says I'm going to become a improv card dealer. So, okay. Oh, and shout out to YYZ Gord who says world fairs still happen. The next world expo is a world expo world fair, but the next world expo is in Osaka in 2025. Attactation is the word I was like, thank you very much. Why is there thank God he's here. He's here all the way from Newfoundland. You go. It is an attack.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'll tell you that is exactly. It is Newfoundland, Newfoundland you very much. Why is there? Thank God he's here. He's here all the way from Newfoundland. There you go. It is an affectation. That is exactly it. Is Newfoundland, Newfoundland and Labrador, but there's an island, Newfoundland. And he says, he says, jam jam is also a type of cookie in Newfoundland. So, uh, shout out to VP of sales who says he's only on his second marriage. I was just joking. Just joking. I now know where the conflation happens.
Starting point is 00:30:42 VP is on a second marriage. I'm on my second marriage, but VP's wife Is the woman I was thinking of when I said he was on six or seven, but I believe she's on her Seventh or eighth marriage or something VB. Let us know how many times your wife has been married Oh, and if you're listening to this is that live dot Toronto Mike comm if you're listening I know but I have a question who is the radio guy want to reset who signed in is Hugh Dillon from the headstones Okay, because it's no fucking way that's Hugh Dylan, but there is a, has he been on? It's got to be cam Gordon. I think some of our
Starting point is 00:31:10 best gigs were in Newfoundland and joy. That's can't be real. I'm just going to point out. You Dylan, is that Hugh? Yeah, could you do Dylan? Yeah. He was that you as a you, I want you to get your ass on Toronto mic. We almost made it happen and your PR person screwed it up here, but shout out to Canada. Kev who's here for the jam jams. Let me get back. So that was the Toronto accent. I'm going to clean, do a little cleanup. I wanted to ask you Rob as a keyboardist. Are you familiar with the gentleman who was known as Richard Tandy who was the keyboardist for ELO. He passed away since our last recording.
Starting point is 00:31:45 He did. He was a huge influence on me. Like one of my inspirations for sure. When I was a kid, when I first, like in my first band, like when I was 10 years old and ELO were on the, were on the charts. And this is like, you know, mid seventies, um, my memories of, of listening to their albums. And I used to read a magazine called Contemporary Keyboard, which was for professionals. But I started reading when I was 10, because they would have, Richard Taney was on the cover with his keyboard,
Starting point is 00:32:11 surrounded by all his keyboards. So yeah, he was a huge influence and very sad that he's gone, because he and Jeff Lynn basically created the sound of ELO. Wow. Okay, and I took a photo in a like a thrift shop of a electric piano,
Starting point is 00:32:24 and I think I posted it in the FOTM group on whatsapp and then you replied with this. The first electric piano I ever had when I was 11 years old was made by Elka. Five years later I loaned it to Gord Dep from the Spoons and he wrote, what song did he write on it? Nova Heart. Yeah. Wow. So wait a minute, let me just process that for a moment and then we'll get to these jam jams. Okay. I'll shout out some sponsors. We'll get to the jam jams.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Gore Depp, who wrote Nova Heart, which it's fair to say that's the biggest spoon song, right? Yeah. It's debatable. But I think it's Nova. I think Nova Heart's the big one. And put us on the map. For sure. Yeah. Put the pin in.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So arguably it's the biggest spoons jam. He wrote Nova Heart on your electric piano that you had when you were 11 years old. That's kind of a weird, right? Kind of amazing. I know. I think it's really cool because he borrowed it for like a week weekend. We were all inspired after our first album came out
Starting point is 00:33:21 and we were listening to OMD and this Devo album that held all the keyboards and stuff. And we were the keyboards and stuff and we were like, we should add some more keyboard stuff and I had this keyboard and Gord said let me borrow and just mess around and so he had the beginnings of a couple of songs I still remember to this day being in his bedroom at his parents house where the keyboard was just on the floor and he's like here's the thing I started working on and it was like the intro to Nova Heart and then we went back to our rehearsal studio and we set up that keyboard and I brought in another synthesizer that I had and that was where it began
Starting point is 00:33:48 While did you see that I sent Rob a thing about the Casio? I had I had like very Affordable synthesizers when I was a kid But I loved it because it was the Casio SK-10 or whatever it was Oh the sampling the sampling one where you can sample your voice Yes but I loved it because the Casio SK ten or whatever it was, the sampling, the sampling one where you can sample your voice and you could actually like to have a three second sample and you could play with it. And I wish I wish I had the access to and the means to have had lessons because I just I've always been
Starting point is 00:34:15 fascinated with it. There's good samplers even for your phone now like yeah, the things you can do the way that technology exists like compared to what it was. It's you know, where's my mind where is it it's a band that I'm proud to say like I'm not a music snob I didn't discover them to well after grunge and when I did I was like oh my god this is amazing and obviously most of us found out about them because of the fight club soundtrack which this was that really where I think so I know this song I fell in love with from Fight Club. Yeah. And I knew DVD. I wrote, but I knew here comes your man because of Sunday nights at the whiskey
Starting point is 00:34:53 Saigon that I produced with Martin streak and DJ Dwight. Wow. But this was Fight Club, all Fight Club and no Pixies, no Nirvana. Yeah. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. So I'm playing the song. So soak it in and then I'm going to flip it up because we do have to get to the jam jams are going to take for God. So where is my mind by the Pixies? I fucking love this song though. I almost don't want to fade it down, but I'm going to do it because Bush. Bush? One of my best interviews was with Gavin Rosdale when I was at 94.9 in Iraq.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Do you still have a copy of it? I do. It's on my SoundCloud, I think. You still can't get a radio job? Nobody will hire me, man. I have applied to a bunch of radio gigs. Like on air, not programming. They want me to program.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Hate the way you feel. So that's Greedy Fly from Bush. So we've now played Pixies, Where Is My Mind. Yep. We've played Bush's Greedy Fly. And I mentioned Irvon, I'll play one more here. Fucking sounds great in the headphones, man. We're lucky to have such great music. All from the 90s though. Now go Pixies, where's my mic? Pixies is an 88 isn't it? 88.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I love those guitars. And all that you're leaving, soon as you can pay It's all relaxing, the hill that you're resting Never again to me It's all soothing, and all that you're suing me Soon as I'm insane Doesn't that sound good in the headphones? Amazing. It sounds real like you're in the room with the guys, you know, making the music. What album's that?
Starting point is 00:37:02 What's that? It's from In Utero. In Utero, right? Francis This farmer will have her revenge on Seattle. So I played pixies. Where is my mind? I played Bush's greedy fly and I played Francis farmer will have her revenge on Seattle by Nirvana. Anyone want to hazard a guess why I played these three songs shout out to really funeral home? Yes, Steve Albini, Steve Albini. Oh right. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I was just playing a whole bunch of stuff. I mean,
Starting point is 00:37:30 he's he produced so much stuff. He doesn't even like the word. Apparently the nicest dude ever. It's like such a cool guy. You have rain ever have rain on. Yep. Yeah. So FOTM Raina who's now on a world cafe. Is it called is in NPR and something like the NPR. She posted something about hanging out with him one day when they were talking about and like he still drives a shitty, he still was driving a shitty car because he never, he only accepted his rate. Yes. Yeah. He never accepted resids or anything. Yeah. What a phenomenal guy. So talented and so humble.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And like the day he died, I went to the website for his studio, electrical audio in Chicago, and he's just listed along with the other engineers. Isn't that crazy? And he would do like, if you'll pay his rate, he will record you and you can call it producer, but he just called himself a recording engineer or something like that. Unbelievable. You know, and there are a lot of Canadian bands who did so. One is Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet and I'm going to have, looks like I'm going to have Don Pyle from Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet on the program to talk about Kids in
Starting point is 00:38:35 the Hall for 90 minutes. And then we will talk a bit about Albini. But the three albums are Surfer Rosa, In Utero, and Razor Blade Suitcase. And those are three of the 2000 albums that Steve Albini produced. 2000? No, I made that up, I don't know. No, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:52 A lot albums. Like a lot. Hundreds. He's so interesting to me too. Like for the last several years, I've gone back and like, there's so many interviews. Well, so many interviews that he did. He did like, like workshoppy kind of things
Starting point is 00:39:03 and in studio kind of sessions talking about techniques and things and people want to just talk about his career and all that stuff thank God like it lives on you know. It lives on. It lives on. I want to let everybody know June 27 is TMLX15. Rob, Bob straight up I need to know will you be at TMLX 15 on June 27th from 6 to 9 p.m. At Great Lakes Brewery at 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard. I Can take it hit it give it to me straight doctor. I can take it It's that that's a Thursday Thursday night June 27 6 to 9 p.m. I don't see why not I don't see why it's not a no. It's one month from no
Starting point is 00:39:42 Yeah, like I I I see no reason for me not right now looking at the calendar although the the shared calendar app that I used to use with my wife went from is called cozy CEOs that I everybody and I knew a bunch of people used it it went from being free to not free so now I'm lost Google calendar like the rest of us because he was really convenient anyways yeah we will use Google calendar. Okay, so my wife and I, we have shared calendars too, obviously, and we do that. Now that is TMLX 15.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Your first beer will be on the house courtesy of Great Lakes Brewery. How's our beers, guys? Wonderful, wonderful. I love their longer. How's our beers, fam? Fam. I like the, I do like the word fam. Yeah, fam's cool.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I might sprinkle fam into this. Yep, yep. Palma Pasta's gonna feed us. Nice. And everybody should come out into this for sure. Yep. Yep. Paul Mapposta is going to feed us. Nice. And everybody should come out. It's not a ticketed event. You just show up.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And speaking of non-ticketed events, I will be live at Christie Pitts on June 2nd. I missed the last, the first one. Come out on June 2nd, because I'll put you on the mic and we'll have a chat. I saw, I missed that one. I was actually at the Blue J game that day with Alex Minnow's renewal.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Like he came back and he killed it. But of course the Jays, uh, you know, the J scored 11 runs today and that's a lot of runs for the blue Jays and they lost and you know, they lost three or four against Detroit. I think we all thought they'd sweep this like the white socks, like it's playing a little league team or something like that. Teams in trouble. They took two or three against the white socks. That team is awful. And now I'm at a point where, uh, I feel like we need to lose to affect change. Like, I feel like can't be mediocre.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Right. You gotta be really the worst middling things. This is what the Leafs used to do forever. Like, not the eighties, but yeah, in the nineties, late nine. No, I mean like before they got rid of Fanoff and the Kessel, they were a long period of time where we were just these middling, you know, no, no, thank you. Okay. So let's, uh, let's do something about this team.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Cause it's really, I find it really June 2nd. You're going to be there doing it again. So June 2nd, I'm at Christie pits. Everybody should come out 1 45 PM. I should be throwing out the first pitch. What? I'm serious. Should owner has asked.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I will be, I will be throwing out the first pitch. Don't bounce it. Don't bounce it. I haven't thrown a ball in a while. Like a hard ball. I got a practice to make sure I don't embarrass myself. I'm going to like yell at you. If I'm there, Oh, I'm going to have someone, you know, he's here tomorrow. Who Al Gregor, the cuddly one, he's won another podcasting award. He always wins these awards and he comes over and brags
Starting point is 00:42:00 about it, but he is the host of a yes, we are open and season six is actually, I think it's done, but you should subscribe to yes, we are open and listen to season six. The latest episode, cause he went to Alberta, but this latest episode had him going all the way to Peterborough, Ontario to talk to Scott Stewart, owner of Coartha TV and stereo. You'll love this story. That's the finale of season six and Al's here tomorrow to kick out the jams and talk about it. Excellent. I loved your Jerry Levitan episode too, by the way. You know what? That fell in my lap.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Did it? Oh, cause Jeff Rogers. Jeff Rogers says, I'm at a dinner party and it's in your backyard. That's so cool. And he's like, this guy's got an amazing story. You should talk to him. You know what's weird? I owned that film too. I met the Walrus. Like when it first was released in like 2008 or nine or something. And I never heard of him. And you're right. A lot of people reached out to say it was kind of like Forrest Gump or something, like listening to like the story.
Starting point is 00:42:57 It's the John Lennon guy, right? Yeah. The Paul McCartney part, the George Clooney, the Jack Nicholson. It's so interesting. It was fascinating. And the guy like is a two minute bike ride away. So he coming to TMLX. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. Cause I need as many lawyers as I can get on that. Maybe in a couple episodes here. So we're going to get to the jam jams. Now we always start with record now, but recycle my electronics.ca gentlemen, bookmark that site, go to it when you have old electronics, old devices, maybe you have a bunch of cables you don't need anymore. Recycle my electronics.ca. You got it? Got it. You got it? Do it. Rob, any words before I kick out your first jam? And then
Starting point is 00:43:39 we will talk about how you kind of messed with me. I have this technical, I have a technical request. Okay. So on the fly, I'm listening. So you have like five for my first jam. Do you have like five tracks to play? Do you see, do you see? So there's the one. Yep. And then I have one, two, wait, one, two, three, four. I see four. You only see four after the initial. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So will you start? So there's one and then two, three, four, when you start with four and then after like a minute, can you fade back into number one? I can do that. So let me start. Do you want me to come over there? Cause you know, like I'm a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:44:20 I'm a little bit more versed in actually producing a show like, well, get the fuck out of my basement. Do you know what? Episode 500 is already in the can. So, episode 500? Sorry, did I say 500? You did. 1500.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Yeah. I lost a thousand episodes a long way. Okay. Why don't you just introduce this first jam. Okay. And I'll play it. And then I can do whatever you want. But you're gonna start with number four.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Oh no. No, no. Yeah, yeah, start with number four. But I don't have them numbered. The fourth song in that email. Or no, did you? I know. So for the first song you have one and then you have two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Okay, can you just say a word that might be in the title? Yes, it's gonna say... Big? It's gonna say... Big? Guitar lesson? Okay, stop. So you wanna start with the guitar thing? Start with the guitar lesson and then go back to number one. One, two, three.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Make sure I get my ranting about this Mr. Pruitt Okay. I'm gonna go ahead good at it. Smooth. You're too. The smooth. Toronto. My praise for Bob. I was really good coming up. I'm a DJ.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Get coming up. Where you DJ? I don't know. Some bar on Queen West. You don't know the name of this bar. I'll find it. You just get to pop in every bar and say you need a DJ. No you DJing? I don't know, some bar on Queen West. You don't know the name of this bar.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'll find it. You just get to pop into every bar and say, you need a DJ? No, no. Listen, let him talk. You guys, the fact that the jams are all so long, you don't even need to fade it down. I think we should just talk over the jams.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Like FM station. Well, now you're talking like a NPR host. Exactly. Or a candlelight and wine. Watch out, Raina. Somebody's coming for your gig. So this is the Almond Brothers. It's called
Starting point is 00:46:48 In Memory of Elizabeth Reed. And it was written by Dicky Betts, one of the guitar players from Almond Brothers. Shout out Ridley Funeral Home. He passed away just a month ago at age 80. A month ago? And he's the one we hear in the beginning talking about. Yes, so that first track I wanted to play,
Starting point is 00:47:04 I was scouring the YouTubes looking for interesting things. And it's from this magazine called Guitar World magazine. And it's Dickie and his son basically showing guitar players how to play the leads and the melodies for this song. I just thought it was a neat way to start. So it's just him and his son on their own leading into this version of the song. So in memory of Elizabeth Reed was, uh, you know, it's an instrumental, there's no vocals. I had this little quote that I like, Dickey Betts called the tune a pure expression of his spiritual commitment to music. He said, when I write something that I'm proud of, like Elizabeth Reed, where does that melody come from? He feels like it's given to him because
Starting point is 00:47:37 he's dedicated himself so much to the guitar. He was a very influential guitar player and I think what we'll discover with a lot of the Jam Jams is that they the recorded versions are concise sort of, but then live versions they go forever and ever and ever and ever. So this was like one of the iconic Allman Brothers tunes when they would play this thing. So if you're gonna go to like an Allman Brothers concert and in the desert, let's say it's 90 minutes, that's three songs right? Yeah that's right. This would be one of them for sure So Elizabeth the title Elizabeth Reed she was named for others a cemetery in Macon and It was a headstone that he'd seen and there was like stories that he was you Dylan from the headstones, maybe
Starting point is 00:48:18 Possibly we'll find out But the cemetery there was a headstone that said Elizabeth Reed and so he named it for this because apparently it was a meeting place where he was having an affair with the wife of Boz Skaggs or something, I'm not sure. But in this same cemetery, all the members of Almond Brothers who have died- You just yadda yadda yadda the best part. I know. So there's only one guy remaining from the Almond Brothers, and the rest of them are buried in this cemetery where Elizabeth Reed was resting.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Who's the last remaining member? The last remaining is one of the drummers named J Moe sure his last name but yeah Dickie was the second last but Dwayne Dwayne Allman Greg Allman butch trucks Barry Oakley I've only I've written this down only because I don't remember their names that well I saw them play one time in New York about 15 years ago because they would come into New York and play the Beacon Theatre and do like five or six night residencies. And it was like one of those things you had to go to. And one of my friends would go every year.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And I was like, I should probably go to see them, just to say I'd seen them. And it was really fantastic. Jam bands are not really completely my thing. So I was a little twisted on this. You know what? They're not my thing either. And I- Why do we do this then?
Starting point is 00:49:23 I hate jam bands. But it's a good challenge because they're- I like leaving our comfort zone. Yeah. And I want to make Canada Kev happy. Okay. So I admit, yeah, I found it difficult to come up with my jam, jam jams.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Hey, are these a jam? Is this a jam jam? But then after the exercise was completed, I felt very fulfilled and nourished that I had left my comfort zone. It's like doing geometry at school. Like, you know, you learn something and your brain is expanding and taking in information to see the world in a new way.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Breaking news, breaking news. VP of sales is his wife's fifth husband. Nice. Wow. So you weren't that far off. You were right. Like I'm one. I'm in the ball. So between them they got seven. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Fifth, you know, fifth in the ball. So between them they got seven. Yeah. Wow. Fifth, you know, fifth. Wow. In a series. Ha! Ha! She's almost got a box set. Oh, and a disc five. That's right. She's got box sets.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Special features. Yeah. Leslieville, Leslieville is on the live stream. And she misunderstood the theme because we promoted it on the WhatsApp chat as Jam Jam. She thought she might hear do re mi from Sound of Music Jam Jams. I don't understand a needle pulling thread.
Starting point is 00:50:31 So that's because that's a song about music. It's a jam jam. It's like songs about music. Well, I'll tell you what I was I was going to choose just to piss you off was Jam by Michael Jackson or the jam. Yeah, I was going to do that. But I like jam because that's's got heavy D right? Yeah. Yeah. Here comes the man. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:47 The people was saying with Jordan, Jordan, Jordan. I liked that video actually. Yeah. I was going to pick that just to piss you off. But, and then I really, I will when you piss me off. Yeah. I know. I know. Um, I, I don't want to, Oh, when Rob's the shortest jam jam we have tonight. Yeah. This one, right. This thing is almost over. Like there's only a couple of minutes left. This is the studio version. When they play it live, it would go on for 11 to 14 minutes, right? Right. Now you did. Okay. I now let me go off on you, Rob. Earlier in this episode, I said, you're the nicest guy who wouldn't
Starting point is 00:51:16 like Rob. I'm the guy. Last month, you, although I didn't like the, some of the outs were a little harsh. I thought you can fade down or whatever. Oh, right. Yeah. But you did package up the MP3 is like you did your edits, you zip it up and you compressed it. And I got a zip file and zip it. I loaded it up and I'm like, Oh, I, I trust Rob. I'm just going to play these in here. These for the first time. Like when, when Bob hears them pretty much now, uh, this week you didn't do that, but you sent me, I'm going to guess you tell me if I'm off base, approximately 10 or 11 YouTube links with instructions like start this one 55 or so seconds in, start this on a couple of minutes in. Well, give me either give me the exact second. Yeah, you could send the link.
Starting point is 00:51:59 That's the thing. You could send the link from the spot you want. I totally didn't do that where he illegally rips it from YouTube. So I have here, I have three. Is that illegal? I have the, is it illegal to play all of the allman brothers on this by you're going to have three songs here. Why don't you, since we're winding down this studio first selection? Yeah, well, so the other ones, in fact, you know what? Just just skip into them at any point because it What I did was I gave you three other examples of the fact that that the song is covered by other people Here's the song. Yeah, this is a song. I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:52:34 This is this is John Pizzarelli. I Like this is just do his friends call him pizza his pizza wood or mr. Ellie. I don't know Hi, it's a my Pasternak on the Bruins, they call him pasta. Right. Oh, he got a good goal today actually at the last game. Yeah, he got a good goal. Oh, for Czechia. Yeah, he really did. First goal. He was a superstar. Anyways, so my other jams are just like to show you- Fuck that guy. I know. Fuck that guy. Just to show you that like this song lives on in the eyes and in the hands and the minds of musicians.
Starting point is 00:53:05 It's a musician's song. Yeah, it really is. So there's John Pizzarelli, his jazzy version. Is this Jason Isbell? This is the next one? Yeah. Here's Jason Isbell. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Amazing guitar player. Yeah. And he does a little, it's a little Frampton-esque kind of guitar solo kind of stuff. So. Where's the voice box? There's no wah, wah, wah, wah. Do you feel like we do? So go to the next one because then the next one is called big band of brothers go in like a couple minutes if you can
Starting point is 00:53:29 Look at this. Oh, it's a big band version. Oh like a Glenn Miller style Hey, welcome back. Yeah. Right? So just the idea that the Allman Brothers have sparked this inspiration in all these different kinds of styles of musicianship, I just think is really interesting as far as a jam band, because jazz music is jammy. Jazz goes on for hours with guys improvising and just making their shit up. And jam bands are a little more structured because there's five or six guys in the band who they got somewhere to go to because
Starting point is 00:54:08 there might be a section with lyrics or whatever. But this is my story. So last two Tuesdays ago, I guess it was, I was at a place on the Danforth called Noonan's and it used to be known as- Are you kidding me? I was there Friday night with Ben Johnson and Noonan's. Is that where you were at Noonan's? know, he's there all the time. Two people, Tom power and Julian Taylor are there all the time. This was a private event. We kicked them out. Oh wow. So I was just okay. So you're at noon ins. I had a plus one and I was thinking, oh, should I invite somebody from East York to be my invited Ben Johnson and not me? What about Cam Gordon? So I'm on fuck Cam Gordon. I'm chatting up Ben Johnson. Meanwhile, Mary Ormsby is there, Paul Hunter,
Starting point is 00:54:48 Steve Simmons is there, Steve Pakin is there. I could go on and the number of scribes in there, but yeah, I was just, and I never get to the East Shore. So your plus one was Ben Johnson? No, Ben, that is the subject of the book that was being launched. Oh, it was that launch. So you were like literally a 30 minute walk from my home,
Starting point is 00:55:04 and you didn't ask if I wanted to be your plus one. I regret it now, but go back to your Noonan story, but it's funny you said Noonans. It's like the only bar in your neighborhood I've been in in the last like four months. It's not really, yeah, I'm over at Woodbine. That's at Broadview. It used to be called Dora Keogh's.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It is the most, yeah, it's next to Allen's. Nina Keogh, yes, I know. Oh, the puppeteer? Lunch at Allen's is next door, kinda. It's right, yeah, it's right. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been, uh, it's now the woman who owns is from Newfoundland. Oh no, it's called Allen's, but lunch at Allen's was the group that was the super group. There's a Canadian super group called lunch at Allen's because of that. Yeah. And, you know, and Gord down, he used to live in the neighborhood and Steven page and all
Starting point is 00:55:40 these guys. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And I was there with a friend with it, with a friend of mine and a friend of the Bob's Basement podcast, Larry Foley, who is a he was in a band called the punters in the from Newfoundland in the nineties and they've toured around. They've been here. They played the horseshoe. They put you would know them for sure, and he's a friend of now and he was at my house, but we went and saw Stuart Lawton's radio dial and Stuart Lawton. I know. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Cause he was in, he's so he's in the Canadian brass trumpet player. Yes. Yes. So something with him and this band, uh, they, they had a pedal steel. They all these session guys. And it was the kind of place in this reason I'm bringing it up not to drop these weird names, but to say that this is the kind of song they would have done. And we were there with Larry Foley, who's from the punters, who's in town and he was hanging out with us and he did a gig out. Anyways,
Starting point is 00:56:31 it was just, it was one of those musicians nights and I was appreciative to be there to see this. And he came out, I have, I check out on my Instagram, there's a video of him playing trumpet. Yeah. So Stuart Lodge and these guys, they play there once a month at newtons. If you are like, if you were a musician or you love musicians music, go check these guys out. That's wild. Yeah. That photo, the photo on my Instagram of me and Ben, I saw that I didn't know was that new. By the way, the most authentic Irish pub in the city. Is it really? Oh wow. By far in my, there's a good Irish pub around the corner from you on the,
Starting point is 00:57:04 on the Queensway. Is it authentic? Yeah. Yeah. What's it called? It's really good. Oh, I know the one you're talking. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do these or something. Do they do live sessions? No, no. See this place does live sessions. Yeah. No, it's a good place. They do live sessions there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty amazing. Okay. What's amazing is the song has like 18 minutes. All right. Can we still play? Okay. So I'll just preface this and then see what Bob has to say, but I'll just say that I had this song originally.. Can we still play? Okay. So I'll just preface this and then see what Bob has to say, but I'll just say that I had this song. Oh, is this yours? Yes. Okay. Literally jammed out in my backyard during the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:57:32 but I love this song with all my heart and I'm glad you're kicking it out. You ready? Yeah. Let's, uh, let's go for it. Dollar shine like a diamond mine. Love it. There's some keyboards for you. Is that Bob Wiseman? I can't remember anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Probably. So this is the second. So we'll talk. I know. We'll let it play for a bit. But it's like 90s. I love it. I think this is a wonderful song and I always wish it was
Starting point is 00:58:05 longer it feels like that all my brother's song it's got a little bit of that same vibe right and a little bit of the doors this kind of music always very very doorsy yes very door start of Elizabeth Reed is the same it's got a that my days are over But like a drunken fool I never knew when to leave It's just me and all the things we had So listen to me and all the things we had So listen to me and all the things we had Yeah, Bob McAdorn global, right? Yeah, I did interview with him years ago. He did, yeah, for sure. I always liked him on global. Yeah, I don't remember him, but I could perm to yeah, always. Oh, his curly hair. Yeah, I'd like to
Starting point is 00:58:58 have him on Toronto. My is he still around? He's long gone. Yeah, I was gonna say so is my buddy here. I want to have on Brian line of hand. All right, talk to his heart. And so when we so first of all, I will go on record saying the same thing as much as I am wearing my Pearl Jam shirt. I'm not a fan of jam bands. You mentioned Grateful Dead Fish, uh, blues traveler, uh, Dave Matthews band, not a fan, not part of my world. Don't get it. Never have. Although I do. And look, I will admit at a Pearl Jam show after seeing them 40 times when Even Flow comes on and I know Mike McCready is going to do the big thing. That's a washroom break for me. I've seen it enough.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Of course, because you know. Because I know. So, but this was a tough one for me. I literally like Googled jam bands and looked up on Wikipedia what caused. But I did know I wanted this because I do know this story. So this is the like... So 87 Outskirts comes out, right? With Try on it for Blue Rodeo. And it becomes a huge hit. I would say a big part of that being much music.
Starting point is 01:00:04 The video for Try was on all the time. It's all Michelle McAdory. Yeah. Oh, really? She got it on? She's the woman in that video. Oh, okay. So that... I'm just following up on my joke from earlier. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So here's what I know because I've gotten to know... So Steve Kane, Steve Codyody and ken green are three guys, two of which are now retired from warner music canada and ken green still i think it's still working my buddy doctor they call it. We call him the doctor and diamond mine is the name of the next album so that's two years two years later right. It comes out in the first single is diamond mine yeah and they send it out to the record labels and i can remember wayne webster who's FOTM telling me and I and Barry Stewart, who is a guy you should have on. He was like the very Stuart was yeah. You would know he was the charm FM. He was that send him over Barry Stewart was the
Starting point is 01:00:56 chum FM music director when Roger Rick and Marilyn Ross Davies when all that started. So they issue the first single and it's the album version and everybody and everybody's like, yeah, it's this one, which is what? How long? Nine minutes. This middle section. Those great. No, it's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. About about that. Yeah. And they end up, they, they pare it down finally to fit and no radio would play it. Wow. They wouldn't play it. This is 89. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're not at the point where at two and at two minute, 20 second songs, but it's pretty, but they finally pair it down to five. The single is five
Starting point is 01:01:30 12 I think, but they actually had to like, they were like, but that's the word I heard from certain music directors was they were this cocky that they thought they would get us to play a nine minute song. I think Q played the long version. Like I feel like I would listen to Q to seven and hear the full version. They may be at night. They play the full and during the day. 680 CFTR is not going to play the nine minute. No, and I don't know if this ever crossed over.
Starting point is 01:01:53 So here's this part they can, cause this Bob Wiseman thing. Like, you can carve this out, right? Right. Oh yeah. Like for a live, when you see them, it's cool. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah. Well, the new keyboard, the guy on keys now is. He's a live, when you see them, it's cool. Oh, it's amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah. Well, the new keyboard, the guy on keys now is a really nice guy. Isn't it? Mike Boguski did this in the backyard during the pandemic. And it was amazing. He's one of the nicest guys I've ever met in the business. He's super nice. He went to my high school and I was friends with his brother.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, cool. Mark Boguski. So yeah, that's the, I knew it was a long song that they jammed out. I've seen them do it a bunch of times. I'm a big fan. They're a bit, I got to introduce these are one of the bands I got to introduce it. Uh, Massey hall. So, uh, this is cool because they're not a jam band, but it's a jam jam. I think so. For sure. Yeah, for sure. But they all jam a song out. Like they'll like five, they'll, they'll make five days in May sound like seven days in May. That's right. For sure. So anyways, so that was that. That's my first job. Love it. Okay. I'm going to fade it out because we don't
Starting point is 01:02:50 have time to do all the, uh, we have to truncate these things. So do I have words to say? Nah, I'm just going to tell you, I'm going to play it and we'll talk about it. How's that? Thank you for letting me have it by the way. I love you, man. Did I say that out loud? I love you man. Did I say that out loud? I love you. Give me a kiss Robbie. Call me Robbie. No, I was talking to him. He just said I love you. I thought you said I love you. Here we go. A lot of love in this room. Oh really? I think I know this. Far sounds like BTO. Midnight Rambler. Midnight Rambler. We're not damned up And everybody got your vote
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah, it's a long Okay, so the studio version of Midnight Rambler by The Rolling Stones is on Let It Bleed. This is not the studio version. I'm not kicking out the studio version. I'm kicking out a live version of the song that was recorded at Madison Square Garden on November 28th 1969. Wow. And this is the version that appears on the 1971 compilation album Hot Rocks. Nice. Really? Yeah. Hot Rocks has this live version. So Hot Rocks, 1964 to 1971. I loved Hot Rocks. That was my introduction to the Rolling Stones. How old were you at that time?
Starting point is 01:04:52 Oh shit, so this is a very rare example where I picked up an album from my dad's record collection and started spinning it. Nice. That's how I got into Queen. Yeah. That's how I got into Rolling Stones. That's how I got into the doors, the aforementioned doors.
Starting point is 01:05:04 What age? What age? I don't know I don't know, eight, nine, ten. Yeah, that's amazing. I love it. And Hot Rocks. I loved every song in Hot Rocks. That's so cool. They're all fucking great, right? But I love this version of Midnight Rambler. And again, I don't know if this is a jam song, but I feel like it's a jam song. It is a jam song. Jam song? I don't know if they're a jam band. No, but- I would call them a jam band. But like Blue Rodeo too, right? I don't think a jam band, but a jam is a jam. So here's an interesting fact.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So this song, Midnight Rambler, again, by the Rolling Stones, it's on Let It Bleed. What a great fucking album Let It Bleed is. Holy smokes. It is based on a serial killer known as the Boston Strangler. Albert DeSalvo was the Boston Strangler and he's referenced in this song. More on the Boston Strangler in a moment but a couple of takes on writing this song. So Mick Jagger wrote Mick Jagger said, now start with Keith. Keith calls this a blues opera. He says it's
Starting point is 01:06:05 the quintessential Jagger Richard song. He said this in a 2012 documentary. He says no one else could have written that song. Mick Jagger chimes in, that's a song Keith and I really wrote together. We were on holiday in Italy in this very beautiful hill town for a few nights. Why we should write such a dark song in this beautiful sunny place, I really don't know. We wrote everything there, the tempo changes, everything. And I'm playing the harmonica in these little cafes and there's Keith with the guitar. I fucking love this song.
Starting point is 01:06:35 And I love that it kind of rambles. Yep. Yep. Very jammy. Very jammy. By the way, what's your favorite jam strawberry. I would say strawberry, I like raspberry a lot. Raspberry is really good. You're a late fans here. No, nobody likes my dad's grandmother is like
Starting point is 01:06:59 marmalade. Yeah. Okay again, I really don't like truncating songs. I realize, but there's no other way to get this under under ten hours. We're like, yeah, it's gonna say we're like an hour, ten in, I think right now. And we've only done three songs. Can either of you name this song or even this band? Animals. Van Morrison, the whatever his name is. I love the sound though. Buggers and Thieves. Nice. I like that. I'm a surfer band from California is what I mean. I love the sound though.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Buggers and Thieves. Nice. Oh, East Coast. Yeah, it's a Boston band. This is a song called Dirty Water. And the song, oh sorry, the band is called the Standells. And I never heard of them. Do you know them, Rob? Well, no, but the sound response was enthusiastic. Yeah, but the sound is vaguely familiar. Yeah. So this band, the song was like a hit. This is a song
Starting point is 01:08:23 people should know if you were listening to music back then. Why am I playing Dirty Water by the Stan Bells? I'm playing it because it was the only other song I could find that was any good that references the Boston Strangler. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Oh. Do you remember a Rock and Hide song called Dirty Water? Yeah, of course. Rock and Hide. Of course. And it's by. Bob Rock, yeah. And if I wash my hands and you're dirty water. It was a little ride. Of course. Bob Rock. Yeah. And if I wash my hands in your dirty water.
Starting point is 01:08:48 It was a little jiggy kind of a song. But apparently, they play the song at Boston Sporting. No way. It's like a big Boston jam. It sounds really cool. Plus, the precursor to shipping up to Boston. This must be mid-60s or mid to early 60s. But I love the sound.
Starting point is 01:09:02 So I had never heard of the song. I listened to it for the first time because it referenced the Boston Strangler and I liked it instantly so there you go so the rendition we're listening to of the Rolling Stones that live version was on Hot Rocks but it originally appeared on Get Your Yah Yahs Out. It should be on psychedelic Sundays. Oh wait, that doesn't exist anymore. Frost. Yeah. I'm Andy frost.
Starting point is 01:09:30 That's the stand. Dell's not bad, right? Really? Goal scored by number by number 28 tie Domi. That's yours. And then I'm going to do mine in trouble. Tell us who did it better. Right. Twenty eight tie Domi. Yeah, I think that's yours. And then I'm going to do mine and
Starting point is 01:09:47 trouble tells you did better aim goal scored by number 13, Matt Sundin. It doesn't sound like my defrost. You know what I could do, Paul? What I could do? Paul Morris, our goal scores by number twenty seven by number, they're all Sittler Gilmore time of the goal for
Starting point is 01:10:04 thirty two assisted by Lanny McDonnell. We still with us. I know. Well, I know a better. He went with he get him in the basement, get him hasn't been on public address since 1999 should be. Well, I know, but they gave it to Andy Frost and then they gave it to this guy who's there now who's not Andy Frost. That was a big thing. They just wanted somebody who was not Mike Ross FOTM Mike Ross, Mike Ross, who does it currently is a wonderful Mike Ross, Mike. I know Mike Luck, who I worked with with Craig Venn at 94 nine, the rock and is now doing play by play for a hockey night in Canada.
Starting point is 01:10:32 He, he had one out, but he sounded too much like Andy Frost. Oh yeah. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Have you heard Mike Ross is a good guy. Doesn't sound like any frost. No, he does not sound like any frost. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Now I'm asking you Rob Bruce to again, we, you're right. We can't do an hour for every jam. So Rob Proust, what say you about your second jam? Uh, nothing really to say. It's dedicated to Canada. Kev is it dedicated to Canada? Kev, you can start number one and then it's going to go on forever. And then we'll start number two. So we're going to number one. I'll be back. That's why he should be on the radio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Canada cab got that tune in OneNote, of course. VP says they play that song, that Boston song, they played at the end of every Red Sox game at Fenway Park. Oh, wow. Apparently, this song that we're listening to now is how they started every show, this band. So this is the studio version, right? This is the studio version. Okay, Canada Kev has some fighting words for you.
Starting point is 01:12:17 He says, the studio version of this song is not a jam. I think it's, well, so. It's subjective, Rob, fight for your rights. So, but fade in you're right so but feed in number two now eight in number two number two all right I don't have it number two actually so I'm gonna let this luckily I have 20 minutes to figure this out okay let's bring it back up and figure this shit out. Well, well, well, you can't do that to me It's not because you missed out on the thing that we had to start Maybe you had too much to pass
Starting point is 01:13:18 Maybe you had too much to pass Maybe you had too much to play Maybe you have too much to play Maybe you have too much to play I just don't play your part Love shook and old shakedowns broke Used to be the heart of town But time and this girl ain't got no heart She's just got to pull the rug Tell me this girl ain't got no heart
Starting point is 01:13:47 She just got a broken heart You know, it's difficult when we actually mute the mics. Like that never ever happens. Rob, what have we done? What have we done? We were off the air. But the jams are worth it. I actually had time to go number two if I wanted. So we can talk over it though, because this is the Grateful
Starting point is 01:14:40 Dead. Yes, please. Yes, please. Grateful Dead, it's called Shakedown Street from 1978. The title track from the album is Sh Grateful Dead. Yes please. Yes please. Grateful Dead, it's called Shake Down Street from 1978. The title track from the album Shake Down Street. And you can hear the disco influence. Like really, so 78, right? Like in 78, the Rolling Stones had done Miss You.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Dancing, dancing, dancing. Sort of. But apparently they were really inspired by the Bee Gees, of course, as well. Was Saturday Night Fever and everything. Rod Stewart had done Do You Think I'm Sexy, The Rolling Stones Did Miss You. And Mickey Hart, there was a quote that I found
Starting point is 01:15:09 where he said we were trying to sell out. They were gonna make a single. They thought it would be on the radio. Nothing happened. No luck. Touch of Grey was their sellout. That's their only song that got on the air. In 1978, this was their fate.
Starting point is 01:15:19 But apparently they start all the shows with this. And it's the only song I fucking like from this band. It's Touch of Grey. Really too. Yeah, Touch of Grey is fine fucking like from this band. It's Touch of Grace. Is it really? I like Touch of Grace. Yeah, Touch of Grace is fine. I will be fine. That's fine. But you know what? They just did the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Kev is uh, he's upset with us, right? Yeah, he says uh, George Lowell produced uh...
Starting point is 01:15:47 Lowell George. So, Lowell, yeah sorry, I'm a little dyslexic. Lowell George from the band Little Feet produced this, yeah. He says it all. He's got it all. Oh, he's got it? Free Brothers artist on the cover. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:59 But the opening, yeah, so this was the opening song, and in the uh, so Fish just, so it goes from U2 to Fish to the Dead, and to Dead and Co at the Sphere in Vegas. And the opening, I've seen the video of the opening. It's like a, it's a- It starts on the street. Yeah, and then it takes, it looks like it takes off. It does look amazing.
Starting point is 01:16:15 It's really cool. I'd have to be on shrooms to enjoy this music though. Like for sure. Do you, do you have the link from the other version of the song that I sent you? In the email? Jesus man. There was one more, one more like a- of just a link not even like not that one
Starting point is 01:16:28 right there but if it's just a link people I can't hear it right right well in the podcast they can hear it okay sorry live dot Toronto Mike dot com people what is this I'm sorry. What is this? See what happens to the song. You know what it is? Also, it's a little bit like, it's a little bit Pink Floyd as well.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Oh yeah. Slow it down. Yeah. In 1978, I realized that song, the song sort of probably influenced Pink Floyd as well. Oh yeah, for sure. Everything was feeding off of everything else. This is a band called the Unknown Mortal Orchestra. And they did this on a Dead tribute album in 2016. Wow. And there's some kind of like
Starting point is 01:17:10 disco band from New Zealand, like a dance electronic band. And I just thought it was cool that somebody was taking the Grateful Dead and doing this thing. They sound like this band from New York City, electronic duo called the Knox. I don't know if you've ever heard, you'd like them, you'll dig them. The Knox, K-N-O-C-E, like Knox is a knock on the door. You'll love them. They're great. Duos like that always make me think of Chromio. Yeah, totally Chromio.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah, very much so. You'll like it a lot. They're at the dome. Amazing Mr. Pruss. Well, that was something. Always. But anyways, back to the Jam Bands. That's another one of those songs.
Starting point is 01:17:40 If you go see the band, they'll play that song for 20 minutes. There's versions on YouTube, right? Like live versions. The song lives on in their repertoire on stage. That's where they take life. Are you a fan? I'm more of a fan now because I can appreciate it. I was never a fan growing up. And like you said, a touch of gray. I was like with the Grateful Dead and what's 86 or something, right? And this video with Jerry Garcia and the skeleton and all
Starting point is 01:18:02 that stuff. And I think for probably fans of the Grateful Dead, they were like, man, they finally, this is like the world knows who they are. I like YYZ gords, uh, comment during that song. There's nothing that would make me enjoy this song. So that was, I think that was after you said you needed shrooms to really see, I think, you know, to each his own, this is what's beautiful about music. You know, I appreciate it because it sounds like 19 to me. It sounds like 1978.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I could see that all this. But hook it, you know, hook it to Canada, Kev's veins, right? Like he's going to go inside and send us a bunch of shit. And I'm like, you know, I just it just doesn't do it for me. But deadheads did not like that album. Apparently they call the album Disco Dead. Yeah, for sure. But it's like Rolling Stones fans didn't like miss you. And I bet you faces and Rod Stewart fans didn't like do you think I'm freaking did another
Starting point is 01:18:46 one bites the dust like come on now. Amazing. Now this is a band I'm glad, uh, Rob, sorry, Bob, will it is kicking out because he's wearing the T shirt. You ready? Ready? Yeah, go for it. Just go for it. We'll talk about it. Well, we'll do the intro and I'm glad you're playing this because I was interested in this as well. I'm glad you're playing this because I was interested in this as well. Sorry, it's a live from somebody's phone version. It's not released yet. Several potentials All the reason I was not the child To understand it
Starting point is 01:19:30 Tries to make her proud The shades go down into her head Painted room every night Oh, don't call me daughter Yeah The vision will remind me, don't call me Talk after that holds the hand and then we'll bring it back up She holds no limits and holds them down She will rise above Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:30 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, picked up their tour the main and this song they've always broken it down into a jam. Yeah, every time you see them and they tag often tag different songs onto the end. Yes, including one of their own WMA, which is like which is white male American favorite tag for this song. I probably I have a favorite yeah, probably Pink Floyd. They do which which flight song do they like?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Which one do they do for Pink Floyd? Why are they blanking? None of us are bailing them out. No, I know. I'm not sure. Another one, another brick in the wall. Another brick in the wall is what they usually... Which is what sounds like Shakedown 3, that Grateful Dead song.
Starting point is 01:21:21 What's yours? It's called It's Okay. It's Okay, yep? So I had a, it's called It's Okay. It's Okay, yep. And I had a bootleg with that one in it and it was my go-to version of the Otter for a long time. And they also dealt with... It's Okay. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of songs they'll tag onto the end of other bands.
Starting point is 01:21:35 That's really cool. So this is in... I remember the album version of this song. Yes, yes. So this is in Canada. Yeah. This is the first time they've ever tagged. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So the song comes down, the shades go down. By the way, the other song WMA starts with, finally the shades are raised or ends with that. Yes, which I think is the best. Yeah, so this is, I don't have the... And I've always said, I've always wanted them to do something like this. This I don't have the... And I've always said, I've always wanted them to do something like this. This doesn't come out though. It's my two favorite bands. And I said, my head might explode if I saw it live. Okay, here it comes.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Song's done now. Jam time. They they're jamming. But they are called Pro Jamming. It's not the melody but it's the lyrics. People are just realizing what it is. It feels like I would have lost my mind if I was there. My arms. Amazing. Hold it up to the camera. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field., I know, at Wrigley Field, right? Yeah, I was at Wrigley Field. Yeah. Yeah. I was at Wrigley Field. And he was shouting, saying, you know, there's a guy playing his last show, whatever.
Starting point is 01:23:51 How did Eddie Vedder become a... Is he just a fan of Gord? I wasn't at Wrigley Field that night, sorry. No, you know what? Stone, not Stone, Jeff Ament, the bassist, was working on a side project. I don't think it was... I don't know. It might've been Three Fish. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:24:05 But Gord was in doing solo stuff in the next studio, and they got to know each other, and they became kind of friendly. And when at that show, the Wrigley Field show, Jeff a man wore a shirt that said gourd fucking downie on his shirt and in in chicago and i've seen them in chicago on the state i wriggly field and so they've all been aware of each other's music and whatnot and i mean how could you if you tour canada you're going to hear and learn about the hip and also se is a Basically, it's a it's a border town. Yeah, so you're gonna have a tragically hip influence there So but it was basically it was Jeff Jeff a man was that was the reason why so this is a jam And this is just a few days ago. This was like two weeks ago through
Starting point is 01:24:58 That's the only Canadian date on the tour, right so far. Yeah, they did two nights in Vancouver And yeah, I might there in September. The closest they come is New York City. They're playing Madison Square Garden a couple nights. So we'll see. I'm still if I have a job, I'll go if I can afford it. Come down and stay at my place. Your wife is a John. Yeah, of course. So there you go. First time ever tragically being covered by Pearl Jam.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Amazing. And obviously this is the song that they covered. Not that you need to know it, but again it wasn't the melody, it was just the opening lyrics. Could have been the Willie Nelson, could have been the one. Now this is the jam, okay? Listen, I'm telling you, because we're hearing all these jam songs and I'm like, just put this in my veins, give me the daughter. Never get sick of this song.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Love it. About a quarter after nine, could have been the well in Elstam, could have been the wine. Okay. Amazing job, Bob Wollett. Amazing. That just happened and that was amazing. And I think that was game recognizing game. Love me some Pearl Jam. Love me some tragically hit. It's like peanut butter and chocolate. Well, Canada Kev just sent a better quality version. Thank you, Canada Kev.
Starting point is 01:26:20 We love Canada Kev. Canada Kev, I can't wait to give you a big hug on June 27th at TMLX 15. I'm gonna be hugging that day. I think... Free hugs all night long! That's the kind of mood I'm in. I'm gonna wave the normal $20 charge for my hugs. Yes. Okay. Miss these guys. Miss these guys. You know, we've already talked about this band and I'm gonna speed myself up and do my second jam here. We've already talked about these guys so let's get into it okay? This is a famous jam too, right? Okay it's all gonna come back to Dicky Betts here, okay?
Starting point is 01:27:26 It's a Dicky Betts show, but this is the Allman Brothers Band, the second song we've heard from the Allman Brothers, so they must be a jam band. Yeah, you think? Instrumental, no words. This would be appropriate for like our wordless episode of Pandemic Friday or whatever. This is again written by Dicky Betts. Another written by Dicky. That's amazing. And he wrote it on the band's farm in Juliet, Georgia. The name Jessica, the song is called Jessica. That is because
Starting point is 01:27:58 Dicky Betts' daughter is Jessica Betts And she was just an innocent when this was released. And this has a famous piano solo, right? Well, it's not the Layla by Derek and the Dominos. No, no, no, but I think it's got a solo coming up. Spoiler alert. Okay. Yeah, there's a lot of great stuff going on this song. You got some time?
Starting point is 01:28:16 You can hear it all. Okay. So I always liked this. And there was a period of time when CFNY had a traffic woman Can you call that name Jessica? Jessica Baker correct really and Jessica was a Jessica was on the edge. Oh 640 640 is mojo radio Jessica big I just know was humble and Fred and I got my I screwed up. Okay, but Mojo radio. Okay, so Jessica Baker and I had a huge fight on here
Starting point is 01:28:43 Okay Uh, it was Mojo Radio. Okay. So Jessica Baker and I had a huge fight on the air. Okay. Cause Jessica Baker, they would, this would play sometimes to introduce her traffic because it's called Jessica. This is a memory I have Bob. You can, I think this, I would have been the one playing it. So yeah. Well, do you remember playing Jessica by the Allman brothers? Now it would have happened after me. I wouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 01:29:00 No, you know what? It probably happened after. Now, honestly, we had a fight about with Jessica Baker. Oh, and what happened to Jessica Baker? Is she still a bigger say a instructor now at at Seneca? I believe she like a radio and radio instructor She has students. Yes. She has students. I think we should turn it turn up for one sec. Yeah, so very famous Chuck Levelle. This is the follow-up single to their biggest hit, Rambling Man. Also written by Ziggy Betts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:40 And he just died, you tell me. Yeah, he just died. But didn't the Rolling Stones do rambling man? No, wasn't there was the Rolling Stones song you can make ramblin. I knew there's a ramble in there ramble You know when you're jamming you're rambling We're rambling here tonight Steve Martin was a rambling rambling rambling Guy Lord. I was born a rambling man So this is the follow-up single, not as successful as Rambling Man.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Instrumentals on the radio. It gets lots of airplay today though. You hear this on, I don't know, you're right, Psychedelic Sunday would have played this. It's played quite a bit, Jessica, on classic rock stations in this. I'm still working on this piano solo. So this is actually-
Starting point is 01:30:21 What do you mean you're still working on it? I'm learning it still. You can't do this? I could, but I've never really tried to learn it. I'm trying it still. You can't do this? I could, but I've never really tried to learn it. Here's an interesting fun fact. This song is a tribute to Gypsy Jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt. It was designed to be played only using only two fingers on the left hand.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Fun fact! That one was for Canada Kev, but he knows everything. Canada Kev, do you like all my brothers, buddy? I Forgot there's the delay I have to wait. It's good thing. This song is very long. Yeah So did you pick this because you googled jam songs or Just come to mind yeah,, well this is a song I'm well aware of by Almond Brothers and I knew Almond Brothers to be a jam band. I just asked him.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Django was incredible says Jeremy and we're not talking Django Unchained which was also incredible. Yes. Love that movie. Okay good stuff guys we're cooking up gas. Love it. I do have a fun little add-on. You know, I like the tag things on just like in daughter when you go into just a who can name that band is the song you can name. That's a good guess.
Starting point is 01:31:47 That's an accordion jam though. We did accordion jam. This is, they might be giants. Rob, introduce your final jam and then we'll go on to it. My final jam is a recent discovery for me. Actually last summer I was driving in through Connecticut and I had like just a playlist going and this song came up and I was like what is this? I turned it up real loud and I dug it so much and
Starting point is 01:32:14 in my research for the Jam Jam band jams this band came up as a jam band. I was like a jam band. So they are a jam band. I want to tell Bob something. I just really interrupted you. Okay, sorry. That's right. I wanted to say it during the Pearl Jam portion, but I used to see Pearl Jam for free every time they came to Toronto for many, many, many years. Yeah. But so back to back, I was at, I guess they were Canada center at the time and opening, I was there for the opening band and I really started to dig this opening band.
Starting point is 01:32:42 My morning jacket, my morning jacket. They love my Jacket. Yeah, that's a jam band. They were just, and there were songs that I would download and enjoy. But I was always seeking the live version. Yeah. Yeah. My Morning Jacket is definitely a jam band. What are OAR? Does anybody know? Like sort of know them? Don't know them well. But that's their jam band. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, My Morning Jacket often get played on Channel 22 Sirius XM's Pearl Jam Radio. Oh cool. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Interesting. Yeah, they play on- I really, really, really like them. They really do like them, yes. Shout out to My Morning Jacket. All right, I'm sorry I interrupted you. That's okay, that's okay. All I was gonna say was I heard this band come up
Starting point is 01:33:19 on a playlist and I loved this song and they are considered a jam band. So we're gonna listen to the studio version. And that's all there is. And they might be giants is gonna take us there. Yeah, that sounds great. Let's do it. I'm going to be a good boy. This is craft work? Now it sounds like big country. Sha! In a big country! We should kick out bands who have songs that are named the same as the band. That's right.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Backstreet's back! Alright! Back streets back This is Maynard? Is this Tooler? Perfect circle I think Tooler is Jampion That's interesting, conversation. Yeah. Oh, the rain in the cold of the hour. Sweet, sweet, sweet. You stumbled upon this randomly,
Starting point is 01:35:33 like the algorithm served it up? Yeah, served it up, knows what I like, because as soon as it started, I thought, man, the drum was sort of reminding me of like early 80s Peter Gabriel sort of. Yeah, you know, even the vocals sounds like eighties. I was like, what is this? What year is this from?
Starting point is 01:35:47 It's current, right? So this is from like a couple of years ago, 2022. And what's the name of this band? The band is called Goose. They're from Connecticut. Talk to me, Goose. Yeah, they've been around for like 10 years. They were high school friends.
Starting point is 01:36:00 They're really fricking cool. So this was my introduction to this band. But then it turns out that like, they do gigs with dead in code and they Dave Bruce Hornsby joins them on stage and stuff so they're known in the jam band world but I just love this and the more of their music I hear the more I love and there's versions of this song you don't even have to play my second version because it's just the same song but a live version that goes on for like 15 minutes how many guys in the band? Like six, seven.
Starting point is 01:36:25 It's a big band. Two drummers, so sort of like what the Allman Brothers do. And what some of these jam bands like is to have the multiple percussionists happening. Yeah, yeah. You know what, we did this on Pandemic Fridays, but I've been thinking a lot about bands of brothers in it. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Like there's so many. Yep. The Beach Boys. The National. Yeah. Black Crows. Yeah. Chorus Oasis. Uh, black crows. Yeah. Of course. A waste. Could Jim ban, uh, maybe sometimes, maybe for sure. Sometimes I'll have to ask
Starting point is 01:36:51 Canada. Kev, right? I saw black crows of Canada. Kev. Oh, nice. Did he open for the ice and I don't smoke weed, but I had a, uh, I D he did, uh, pass the Dutchie. You are such a nerd. Pass the Dutchie. Oh my god, you are such a nerd. Ha ha ha ha ha. Pass the Dutchie. John Gallagher referenced that.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Disrevelation. He was talking about, he was talking about Druze the Nation. That's right. With Prussia. This generation. Yeah. Oh my god, that song was good.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Anyways, this is my jam. You know what we should do though, as a counterbalance. This is really cool. This is really cool. Connecticut, eh? Yup. All right. The album is called Drip 4K. So here's a question, listening to this. Yeah. Jam band. Yep. All right. The album is called Drip Band. So here's a question.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Listening to this. Yeah. Jam band. Yep. Little prog rocky. Totally prog rocky. Little, like little prog rocky. And you know, and I know Tool gets into that prog rock thing.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Yes. And I'm not a prog rock guy at all. I like, yes. Yep. And none of it. None of it. Don't care for any of it. But I think the idea of a jam band does veer,
Starting point is 01:37:43 they merge together. Yeah. That's interesting. My initial thought was a band like Sigur Ros as well. But I think the idea of a jam band does veer, they merge together. Yeah, that's interesting. My initial thought was a band like Sigur Ros as well. So I just heard a new, Yonji's got a solo album out. Oh, another one. Yes. Their songs go on for eight, 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Do you remember his story from the Art Gallery? Right? Me playing music for Yonji backstage. Oh yeah, that's right. The worst thing ever. But this is very odd. Thank you, Yonji. You should have played some Goose, man.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I should have played some Goose. He'd love Goose. Yeah. There's, there's a lot of bands that are that fall in the prog rock cracks and even like pink Floyd has jams that jam on for ages. Right? Yeah. So like it's the fact that you play Pearl Jam, I think speaks to the idea that just extending a song in a live performance makes it a jam, makes it a jam that makes the song a jam. We didn't specify jam band jams. We said jam jams That's true, right? We didn't say jam band. Yeah. No fair enough, but my mind went to jam band You know we need to do now to counterbalance things my next
Starting point is 01:38:34 Most Most toys listen most toast listeners are long gone. Okay Okay, fuck enough of this no, they're's too bad because I have a great like mind blow for my next jam. And I'm very proud of they're here for the conversation. But we should do like songs we love that are under two minutes. Like we should do shorts. I'll do that. What about that band? There's a band that released an album on Spotify. Songs you love. Can we do under 210? I know why you're saying that because of song two. No, no, no, I just think two is an intro. Is that two? I don't know. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Songs in the next episode. Songs we love. Well, you can make it, I mean, two minutes is an obvious milestone. But not 210. No, two is fine. You could do 222 if you want. Can we stretch to 222? Well, 22 is my favorite number, so. I to 10. Oh, cause the Rick by no, because so no, because I was married on October 22nd. My first born was born on August 22nd. My second born was born on May 22nd. My favorite number used to be 27 for Darrell Sittler. So sorry. I love 27 to cause it's my birthday. I like the number, you're the day you're born. Okay. That's amazing. That's a really cool goose up, take them up. So the album is called drip field and that song is called drip field. That's cool. Yep. You could play the next song and just keep talking because it's the same song, but like, no, because we're going to go to the ball. Good. Before we get to my just vetoed the shit out of that. No, we won't be doing that to hear that song again, but we are going to. So before we lost Leslie. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Oh, that's it. We were. I don't actually know that I'm assuming so. okay? Oh, that's it. We know that I'm assuming so so before we get to mine, my I do have a DJ gig coming up at a bar called Ground Control, which is a David Bowie, yes, a J Lazarus. Yes, yeah, it's Lloyd's place. Yeah, Lloyd and I have a history. I'll tell you about that. Oh yeah, Lloyd didn't was not a fan of mine, but I'm coming back to DJ cool. He bought a bar that I was DJing and he bought. He was a part of the people who bought Zen Lounge after Zubar and turned it into fun house and I was DJing Friday night. Sinful Friday is there for many, many years, and so
Starting point is 01:40:36 I'm doing a set on Friday. I think it's July fifth. I'm doing a set of sinful Friday music so like a bunch of late nineties, early two thousands metal and rock and electronica and stuff on on July 5th, so I'll be posting about it on my on my social medias now as for this one you can go ahead and hit it if you'd like. Oh, let's listen to Let's listen to it. I feel like we have to listen to Roy.
Starting point is 01:41:21 That line. Like. The intentions change you go. Situations turn. Oh, I'm so tired of being lonely. You know, he died at 54. Yeah. So great. He was the old guy in this band. People post those pictures of the band, right? I'm so tired of being lonely.
Starting point is 01:41:40 I still have some love to give. Won't you show me that? OK, now we've got to do the whole thing. Everybody. Everybody. Here we go. Bob and Tom. Everybody, need somebody to lean on.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Put your body next to mine and dream on. Otis Wilbury, Lefty Wilbury, Charlie T. Wilbury, and Lucky Wilbury, also known as the Traveling Wilburys. I'll be honest, I don't know if they're a jam band. I don't even know how many times they played together. I Googled jam bands. They came up. Did they come up? Yeah, so I was Yeah, I'm sorry I how can I not include you know friggin Jeff Lin? George Harrison Because Roy taps out before the video On the rock he's already gone
Starting point is 01:42:37 Line and at the end of the line. Yeah How much time he lapses between, oh pretty woman and this. I know. Yeah. That's a lifetime in rock and roll. And there's a whole subset, or there's a whole sub thing in the television show, Billions,
Starting point is 01:42:54 Yeah. with Paul Giamatti and Lewis, Michael Lewis, no, Michael Damien. No, that's the guy from, Yeah, the R-S-L-I-S. Yes. The Aussie guy. Michael Damien is the rock on. Yes. No,, the Aussie guy Michael. Damien is the
Starting point is 01:43:05 rock on. Yes, no, but the Aussie guy who's in who's in billions whose name I can't remember, but he talks that he's the guy who's a crow. No, just name on his name is some band of brothers. Michael Lewis, Michael Lewis or Michael Damien Damien Damien. No, he's the guy from band of brothers. Yes, and he's the billionaire and he's got a whole thing about the he's a guy from band of brothers. Yes, yes, and he's the billionaire and he's got a whole thing about the he's got a whole diatribe about whether somebody he's not australian. He's okay. Was why he was. I think he's I think he's I think I think he's australian. I think you're wrong. Well, google it.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Rob, you google it. What Bob tells us. So he's got a whole thing in season two or three about whether or not somebody is worthy of being a Wilbury being a travel and there's a whole conversation that he quotes whether it's true or not. Is Trans Canada Highwaymen our version? They are our version. British. I'm right again! Speaking of Trans Canada Highwaymen. Oh yeah there's a question for you on the livestream about that. Was it Canada Cav? No it wasn't it was a name I wasn't as familiar with. Give me a second here. What's the question?
Starting point is 01:44:06 Hello to Jeremy Hopkins. Dude, the work he did at Leaside was extraordinary. Glad I got to see it. No, it was Marco Alex. Okay, Marco Alex wanted to know if you saw them at, I guess in Burlington. Yeah, they played in Burlington. I saw a video of it.
Starting point is 01:44:21 So speaking of tagging on songs at the end, the Trans-Canada High School played at Burlington Performing Arts Center. of it. So the speaking of like like tagging on songs at the end, the trans Canada, I played at Burlington performing arts center and at the end of one of the songs they were doing a jam and they played some spoons to oh nice. They started a little tribute. They did some time in R. A. and symphonies and yeah, all like old emotions. So Stephen page actually has a summer camp. I don't know if you've seen this thing. I'm on the email. It's so cool. You can actually it's not cheap,
Starting point is 01:44:43 but you can go somewhere in the cat skills and you can go hang out with so much fun. Stephen Page, Bobcat, Goldwaith, a whole bunch of really cool people and you get to hang out with them. It's almost like those cruises, but I feel like it's a much more intimate thing. Totally. And you get to hang out and Stephen will sit there. What if Stephen Page bought a ticket for one of the cruises and showed up at the bare naked cruise as a customer. Right. That would be a funny bit. That'd be great. That would be something Conan would do.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yes. But yes, the traveling old boys. I don't know if they're Jan band. I don't think they played very much. But they came up as Jan. How great is that album handle with some really good documentaries about the album that songs called traveling always volume one volume one and volume two.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Yeah. And there's only two left Jeff Lin and Dylan Dylan it ironically strangely enough Bob Dylan's left isn't that weird yeah and Trans-Canada Highwayman I think you know in a way they are kind of they could be there why they're they totally could be jamming yeah I love the fact when you see them live they all play different instruments they don't record new music, their own music. Like the traveling will be handled with care is not a cover. No, it's not one of their songs. But they do have an album of covers. Yes. Yes. They're covers.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Yeah, but they have, but not their own. But you can't guess. I know, but still these are existing songs, right? Like you can't be a traveling Wilbury unless you write and record original music. That's right. They got together to make new music. Yeah. I don't, uh, I don't know if those guys want to do that. Right. It's hard to do that. Yeah. It might ruin the, it might ruin the, uh, the vibe that they got. Just underwhelmed again. Well, it's going to exactly like if you, you know, while they're hits, right. They're traveling Wilburys. They're like a super group that kind of does,
Starting point is 01:46:22 they do their songs and they cover other songs. I'd love to have my own super group and I don't know who'd be in it though Like well that'd be interesting I could be the weakest link in a carat nose to get carol pope. Yeah I want to do a band with FOTM jitters Blair Packham I was I want to do in East York. Where are you? What are we doing in East York again? And not coming to my house? I have no fucking job, man. You don't come to my house.
Starting point is 01:46:46 And Monica, Monica made a rare appearance at one of these white guy parties. I go to, I'm sorry, white guy parties. Okay. I don't want to go now. These parties are a bunch of middle-aged white guys and they're talking and playing white guy music is what I've been told. Wow.
Starting point is 01:47:02 What are you talking about? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Yeah. I actually, so I have a friend of mine who is a cause you're a color blind, a friend of a friend has this amazing sound system in his house. He's in the East End and I've been invited once for a listening party. Yeah, like we're talking $1500 for the needle, but that kind of system, what kind of music gets played? So here's the thing I got to bring. So I brought my original 1994 vitology from the like what you got released early and I also
Starting point is 01:47:30 brought nine inch nails. Yeah. Yeah. I totally to play the vinyl. Yeah. Yeah. I brought a bunch of because we were talking about the transition because that would have been recorded all on digital and then whether putting it on vinyl changes it or not. Whereas Pearl Jam is done on tape. And so we talked about and then I also brought amazing. Yeah. So it's a really cool night. It's also three white dudes, but what's your white dude night that your wife talks about? Blair Packham's house. We all get, he's in East York. Yeah. He's in East on Mortimer. Like I could walk there and I don't get fucking invited. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I kind of render you. I don't have a job. Can we create a super group, Rob? You can be the helm of this thing with Blair, of good FOTM. Oh yeah, good FOTM. I want to know the list of bad FOTMs. Who give above and beyond. Can we do that? And put together some songs,
Starting point is 01:48:15 like each of us could do some of our former bands or current bands. Yeah, you can see Biff Naked's in there. You know, like, just my moment of weakness. Yeah. Do you write right now? You write solo right now? Or do you write with other people when you know, just my moment of weakness. Yeah. Do you write right now? You write solo right now, or do you write with other people when you produce?
Starting point is 01:48:28 I write with other people, I mean I still do collaborations and stuff. You write with the motherfuckers, is that right? Is that the name of your backup band, the motherfuckers? It should be, it should be. With the little kids, they're just learning other songs. Is it only in school, or do they come to your house?
Starting point is 01:48:38 We do some private lessons as well. We do private lessons too. We have some kids come to our house too. Yep, we sing Taylor Swift songs, we do all kinds of stuff. Of course you do. Lavender Hayes, they love this. All the new stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Okay, my last jam. What are we at for time? We're doing pretty good actually. We're doing all right, you know why? Because I put my foot on the accelerator. This song is 11 minutes and 41 seconds. Okay, so I'm gonna play my last jam band and then you guys can tell me it's not a jam song.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I'm sorry, my last jam jam. And you can tell me whether it qualifies or not and then I have a neat little Story at the end of it. You're ready. Ready hit it Slow build up though, can you talk it up or what? I got introduced to this song by Ralph Ben Murky Ralph Ben Murky came over to kick out the jams. This was a jazz song? And he kicked out this song and I fucking dug it. I wonder if Rob Bruce will be able to name this song. I'm gonna go to the live stream and see who gets it first. I don't know but I like the sound of it. It sounds like early 70s. It sounds like Jesus Christ Superstar. But not Jesus Christ Pose.
Starting point is 01:49:45 No. No. No. No. No. No. Hang in there, hang in there. It's worth it.
Starting point is 01:49:52 It's fucking great. Is that a sax? Yeah. Saxy all right. There's a sax on the left and there's an organ on the right. It's cool. It's a jazz song as soon as that sax starts going, that's a jazz song for me, man.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Is that a Hammond? Leslie on, Leslie off. Here come the congas. Leslie on, Leslie off. Here come the congas. Oh, what's that called? Vibro Slash. Vibro Slash. There's the piano now. I kind of like hearing raw. You just can't escape from the sound Don't worry too much, it'll happen to you
Starting point is 01:51:09 We were children once, playing with toys And nothing that you're hearing belongs to the sound of the low-sp spark of high-heeled boys. Yes. It's Steve Winwood. This is Steve Winwood? It's Traffic. Yeah, it's Traffic. Steve Winwood or Hocos, yes. What a jam. 1971.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Yes. I saw Steve Winwood open for Tom Petty. Did you? At ACC, yeah. Wow. With the Heartbreakers, obviously. It's a full band. How freaking cool is this?
Starting point is 01:51:42 So yeah, this is Traffic's most successful album in the United States anyways. They reached number seven. Young and Low Spark of High Heeled Boys, that title, which is unusual, refers to an inscription written by an actor, a shorter actor named Michael J. Pollard in Jim Capaldi's notebook while they were both in Morocco. Capaldi and Pollard were planning to work on a movie that was never filmed. Anyways, he wrote about the low spark and... I first heard about the song, I think like in the 90s at some point,
Starting point is 01:52:20 because I loved Back in the High Life, of course. It actually is so... Yeah, now, I said I'm not a jam guy, but this song trips me out. Like I fucking love every second of it. What? 11 minutes and 44. We were talking over the part where like it was the chorus and I'm like, it got really catchy there and then breaks down to this. Yeah, it's OK. We got another 10 minutes ago. Yeah, no, but it was really you could hear like that.
Starting point is 01:52:42 That that that like it was really catch. Yep. First time I heard this, I was the same way. I fell No, but it was really, you could hear like, like it was really catchy. First time I heard this, I was the same way I fell in love with it instantly. Oh, there's a piano. Look at that. Stevie on the Oregon and on the piano. You know what he had songs on back in the highlight that had that same kind of actually, what's the other single off back on the highlight? There's a higher love roll and also, what was the name? Roll.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Roll with it was the second album, the next album, The King. This is like the song, Take It As It Comes, it's called. That's it, yeah. Higher Love is the song I said, when we talked about Whitney Houston last time, and I said there was a posthumous release, it's her cover of Higher Love.
Starting point is 01:53:18 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a remix with Kaigo, I think. And it was like a Japan-only release that was put out posthumously. You know Kaigo remixed it. He's a part of Ultra Records. Does he live in East York? He might. No he's actually... His name check all because Troy Burch from Great Lakes Brewery lives I think in... I see his vehicle all the time. His vehicle's parked by my kid's school. Is it got GLB on the side? Oh it's a full GLB thing. He's parked by my kid's school. Wow. Yeah, he parks in my driveway once every two weeks between two fermenters.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And yeah, he's got the company. This is a good last jam. Yeah, it's good. I have a kind of neat little, well, I have a story at the end. There's no no fireworks on this episode. Because we all agree that we don't like jam bands. We're just kind of like, all right. Why don't you go back to what you did last month
Starting point is 01:54:07 where you packaged everything up. You like it as MP3s. Yes, I like it. I understand. Like numbers. Like numbers. If you prefer a different audio format, but MP3s do. Well, you know what I wondered actually,
Starting point is 01:54:18 because I don't know, when I send you just a lousy YouTube link, I didn't realize you had to upload a thing. So I don't want to make that work for you. So I'll do it next time for sure. A lot of them. Remember I like it's like don't just chop it off in the middle of a word fades and stuff. Just you know, are we doing two minutes? I like that. I like that too. I'll do that. We should maybe double our choices. Oh yeah. Can
Starting point is 01:54:38 we do six? We do six each or five because they're only fucking two minutes long. Actually, we you know what? Let's it. As long as you're not six, no, that's a lot. Let's do five now for four for a bonus jam. We get bonus or four of your favorite songs that are under two minutes. Oh man, musical guys over here. We got a lot. My god, I can think of if you already. Yeah, this is great. What's your story? Who do you think is on drums for this song?
Starting point is 01:55:09 We're 71. He's mood. He's still alive. Yeah, 71. Yeah, John bottom still live. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Okay, so the drummer on this song is a guy named Jim Gordon. Do you guys know the name Jim Gordon? Bagley? Commissioner Gordon. Commissioner Gordon. It's not Cam Gordon, Jim Gordon.
Starting point is 01:55:34 Okay, I'm saying goodbye to the low spark of high-heeled boys so I can get to my... Farewell high-heeled boys. ...my story here about Jim Gordon. Love that piano. Oh! It's Jim Gordon. Love that piano. Oh, it's uh, Jim Steinman. This is Layla. I mean, Layla. By Eric and Dominoes. Same thing. After Eric's done with Layla, you get this piano coda. You ever seen Goodfellas? Yeah. So this is yeah, the instrumental Piano Coda.
Starting point is 01:56:17 You know who's credited with writing this Piano Coda that is tagged on the end of Layla by Derek and the Dominos. Jim Gordon, the drummer. Jim Gordon. Beethoven. Jim Gordon is credited with writing this piano coda. This is so weird that you're mentioning this because another friend of mine just told me about this two days ago. Okay, well I got more to go here.
Starting point is 01:56:37 So, it gets a little dark here, but. Bobby Whitlock claims that Jim Gordon stole this from his girlfriend. So Bobby Whitlock was the keyboardist for Derek and the Dominoes and he says he witnessed it all happen, that this is actually a Rita Coolidge composition. Rita Coolidge was dating Jim Gordon and Jim Gordon stole it from her. This is the allegation made by Bobby Whitlock. I'm gonna play a song in a moment that was not released for many years later, but was written by Rita Coolidge. And when it did finally come out in 1973,
Starting point is 01:57:18 it was released by Priscilla Coolidge, her sister, and Booker T on their album Chronicles. And then I'll come back and give you the sad ending of the the life of Jim Gordon It's you Casey case. I'm here Shout out to goodfellas shout out to Martin Scorsese finish the fucking SC TV doc you son of a bitch What the fuck are you doing right now Marty Marty Marty or Marty? Marty. He'd be a Marty. Marty. What are you doing now Marty? How about tonight? Why don't you have editors Marty? Pick up the fucking phone, call your editor and say finish the SCTV doc. Flarity's gone. How many more have to go? That's right. I'm legit mad about this. I have talked to several people
Starting point is 01:58:03 in attendance who tell me it was a great night Bullshit Marty get on that fucking phone call your editor and say finish the SC TV doc Here's a song That was written by Rita Coolidge Oh, it's the same. I can hear it already. Oh, I can hear it. Oh, the recording's got a little vinyl. Scratchy vinyl.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Rare audio, everybody. Yeah, apparently. You don't know the research I do for this fucking show, Bobby. I get fired up at the two hour mark. We've got a million years to show them that our love is real. Oh, it's exactly the same. This was released in 73? Yes, but it was written before, apparently written before the Lela Pianacoda. And again, this is recorded, this voice you hear is Priscilla Coolidge, which is her sister.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Interesting. Booker T's on this thing. The song's a sister. Interesting. Booker T's on this thing. The song's called Time. It's kind of wild to hear this after so many times hearing that, again, on Second Elk Sunday. Yeah. Hearing the Layla coda, which I prefer the piano coda to Layla itself.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Classic rock. That wasn't good. Classic rock. That's it. Uh-huh. Nothing matters anymore. Hold my hands, boys. Let's sing time together.
Starting point is 01:59:27 Time, time, I only need some time. She's like, where is this being recorded? She's way off mic. Maybe it's a demo, maybe it's a demo. I went to great lengths to unearth this, but this is wild, right? Okay, so sad news about Jim Gordon, though. We gotta leave it a sad note here,
Starting point is 01:59:45 because that's what we do. But you know, he had some problems. Besides stealing from his girlfriend. Jim Gordon murdered his mother. Like that happened, okay. Happy Mother's Day to those who celebrate. Murdered his mom during a psychotic episode. Yeah, Jim Gordon was a schizophrenic,
Starting point is 02:00:05 he had psychotic episodes, he went to murder, sorry, he went to murder, he went to jail for murdering his mom, and then he would just like, not even want to leave, like when it was time for his like, parole hearings, he would like to be like, fuck that, I like it here. He stuck it out, he died in prison, so. Did he really?
Starting point is 02:00:19 It's a pretty sad story about Jim Gordon. Yeah, well you know what's weird, a friend of mine just wrote to me a week ago telling me that he just finished reading a book about him called Demons and Drums. Oh wow. And this is how he described it. He said a fascinating time capsule of a book detailing the lifetimes and tragic downfall
Starting point is 02:00:32 of legendary studio drummer Jim Gordon. Wow. So weird. Just a week ago he told me that. Did he write the tagline on the back of the fucking book? That sounds so good. Yeah, that is well written. It's really good.
Starting point is 02:00:41 So when you listen to the low spark of high heeled boys, and that's Jim Gordon, that's Jim Gordon. Like you said, session, session drummer, legendary, but he was in a Derek and the dominoes. So he's got that credit for Layla. Yeah, he got the credit, but apparently he stole it from Rita. And then killed his mom and he killed him and then died in jail in that order. So yeah, he first sees playing on low spark of-heeled. Yeah. Yes, that was first. Thank you for
Starting point is 02:01:09 Watching at home Dabbing and then he you know he writes the he steals from his girl so they say And then he has a game all along the, he's having a psychotic breakdown. It's a very sad story, very sad story. And he was misdiagnosed for a long time. They thought it was alcoholism, but no, he was mentally ill. Very sad.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Different times, for sure, yes. Well, thanks, Mike. Go fuck yourself. Jim, Jim. Marty, Marty, if you're listening, Marty, call your fucking editor, get him to work on, or her, I don't assume gender on these things. Get your editor to work on the SCTV documentary.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Two minute songs next time. Two minutes on this. Four two minute songs, I love it. 42 minutes on this. 42. That'd only take 80 minutes each. That'd be good. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:02 That's only 24 minutes between us. Yeah. Like, we'll burn, we have to listen to all of them from the beginning of the day. Our stories will be longer than the songs. That's only 24 minutes between us. Yeah. Like we'll burn the, we have to listen to all listen to them from beginning to end. Our stories will be longer than the song. That's true. That's the songs we love. We have to love them. Love two minutes songs. You have to love them, not just pick them because they're two minutes. Don't pick them because they're two minutes. Yeah. Thanks for having us. Yeah. This, this turned dark. Got awfully dark when the, when the when the drummer murdered his mom died in jail All right, but we did jam jams. Yeah
Starting point is 02:02:30 Bob you're a bigger fan of the unplugged version of Leila. Is that correct? Uh, sure. Why not? Big hit that unplugged. Yeah, just like the the you know I'm not gonna do it. I can't do it. I can't do it I'm dying to know what you were gonna do. Oh, come on. And the air clapped in. I know tears and haven't Yeah. His kid fell out of a window. I somewhat shout out to Ridley funeral home. Right. And what's the line? Would you catch my son if he fell out of wind? Oh, I never heard that. Never heard that. It dark thing. I got would you catch my son if he fell
Starting point is 02:03:07 out. I told you I didn't want to do it. You made me only Rob Proust can call these beautiful children. I didn't want to do it. See that didn't want to do it. You know, maybe I believe the children are the future. Let them lead the way show them all the beauty they possess inside and that brings us to the end of our one thousand four hundred and ninety fifth show our jams next month will be much shorter. You can follow me on everywhere. I don't know. I'm at Toronto might Marty call your editor Marty pick up the phone. He's listening calling her
Starting point is 02:03:42 editor. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. There you go. That's Palma Pasta. That's RecycleMyElectronics.ca. That's the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. Come see me on June 2nd, because I'll be lonely if you don't come see me. Rob Bruce is recycling some Great Lakes right now.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Monaris. Love Monaris. And tomorrow's episode, I'll tell you about in a moment after I say, and Ridley funeral home. See you all tomorrow when Al Greggo, the award-winning podcaster with Menaris is coming over to Kick Out Jams and talk about season six of Yes We Are Open. He is very cuddly. We will be on the live stream at precisely 3 p.m. don't you dare miss it There's a thousand shades of gray Cause I know that's true, yes I do I know it's true, yeah I know it's true, how much is
Starting point is 02:04:54 All them pickin' up trash and them puttin' down rogues And their broker in stocks, the class struggle explodes And their broker in stocks, the class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn because everything is coming out Rosy and gray

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