Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST35: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1590

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

In this 36th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out December jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Joining me today for this 36th episode of Toast is Rob Pr Bruce and Bob Willett. Welcome back. Is that a applause or is that water running? It sounds like a water running. Is that Big Ben? What's Rob Bruce doing? It's the church in my neighborhood. I was thinking of Ridley funeral home.

Okay. Let me do the production around here. Okay, Rob. Come on. Bob, I can't believe you're not on indie 88 At this exact moment. Yeah, I went I went from not working to working Ridiculous amount how many days in a row have you been on? Indie 88 11 days in a row today was the last one of 11 in a row When will you be back on? I said won't be back on till Sunday. was supposed to be on Saturday. However, even before I signed with them, I had a, uh, a bot and paid for a Lauren to curl clinic at the East York curling club up the street

from my house. And I was like, I don't want to lose my 80 bucks. So I said, uh, I want to go do this because I've been putting it off. I love curling so much I watch it all the time, but I've never played it. So I said, yeah I've never once been on a curling sheet. I love watching it though. I know the sport very well I know all the people like God ski friend of the program. Ezri is a big curler. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it I am so yeah, so I've just finished 11 in a row. I went from not working for seven months to being on the air on a radio station in Toronto, first 11 days in a row. And, uh, in there I had two podcasts and a DJ gig and now I'm ending it all with you guys. So, you know, I'm already, I'm already three pints in.

So you too. Okay. So a lot of housekeeping off the top, but you two just came from a bar. Yeah. Yeah. We were up on the Queens way and had a nice, nice little visit because I was going to pick Bob up at the train station. Mimico go, Mimico, because I was down in Liberty Village where Indy 88 is. Right. I went and saw a friend of mine who works at Mose with Moses. He's the producer there once on Mark Wigmore. He's an FOTF, FOTM,

more and saw those guys anyways. And I was finished like really it's like three o'clock and I was like, oh, hang out here. I said, or I'll just hop on the go. And I went to Mimico and then I walked from Mimico station up to to the bar up on there anyway. Yeah, we were going to go there anyway. You're like, I'll meet you there. And I sat there at the bar.

Do you want to crack open a great lady? I do. Okay, so Bob will let you love your premium logger Okay, good one, okay, so Bob let's get his premium logger from Great Lakes blurry Rob Bruce What do you got there? Can I crack her on the mic? Oh That was better. That was like mine was too fast. Yeah That was like mine was too fast. Yeah I can crack and open my burst IPA Yeah, you guys do way better I opened a way too fast I've only done Cheers, thank you for hey, I know like we had to move this around a lot because all of a sudden I have a job Yes, you're so busy. You thought we were gonna do toast at TML X 17.. I did. I was totally messed up. I'm like, I can't.

When you said, I can't use, I think you said I can't do it. I went to plan B. Yeah. No, it would have been so weird though, but it was just the two of us without Bob. Well, I was never going to do that. I replaced both of you with Elvis. But I have some rare, this was difficult to find. I had to go through some various channels. I'm well connected, as you know, in the radio industry. Dave Charles phoned me today to tell me how well connected I am. And I managed to score audio of the last time we recorded Toast. This audio was recorded from Indy 88's Terrestrial Airways. Are you ready, Rob? Yeah. Okay. This is what it sounded like on Indie 88 one month ago. Yeah, you can. Hey, thank you. Sorry, Max.

Sorry, Max. I didn't mean to do that to you, buddy. I'm out of here. Thank you for making me feel so welcome on my first shift on Indie 88. I'm Bob. I'm going to go have some toast now. Maybe have it with a spoon in front of a mic. Wow. Next, if you know, you know, land us up next with the list. It's Keen. If you know, you know, come on. Amazing.

No, well done. That was so fun. I can see you up all night scripting. I literally thought of it five seconds before I went on the air. That's why it's so good. Because he's like, when are you going to plug me? When are you going to plug me? I said, Mike, when are you going to talk about me?

When are you going to plug me on the air? Well, let's hear the T word, but imagine he toast. Okay. So those, if you know, you know, and everybody listening knows, but that was amazing. Did you tease this appearance on Indie 88 today? No, I did not. By the end, I have to admit by the end of the show today, I was filling in for Adam, who does 10 to to by the end of the show. First of all, I was welcoming Lana back who I was filling in for last week. I was a little loopy by the end. I was like, I was not doing a great job. I was I'm tired. I have kids. I have a wife. I have a family and I did 11 days in a row. And you know what people like, oh, it's four hours or three hours. And you're right. Or four hours or five hours of the shifts. It's not it is but it's not like there's preparation. There all it's four hours or three hours and you're right or four hours or five hours of the shifts

It's not it is but it's not like it. There's preparation There's it's the energy is different and if you listen to me on the air, I I don't I'm not a low energy person on the air. So I was pretty tired. I'd be honest So I did not plug this but I will be I've plugged the hell out of it on socials and whatnot But it sounds like they give you quite a bit of flexibility on what kind of content you can bring to their airwaves. So unlike some big cable companies who might have more rigid, you know, what you can talk about,

you can promote Bob's Basement episodes. So yeah, this was, so I brought this up to my boss, a gentleman whose name is Ian March. He's the program director. And I said, look, I said I know Lana does most of the interviews here at the radio station. She does a lot. She probably was like eighty interviews a year with artists and whatnot,

but I do interviews as well and I book them and I edit them and I do it all. I would love to be able to bring them on, but I also would like to be able to talk about where you can hear the longer version of it, and he said yeah, that's cool. Go for it. So today I played a clip of Scott Thompson who was on my podcast. I recorded late like last Thursday. I think actually I end up switching it around a little bit. So Scott Thompson and Paul Bellini as in Bellini in a towel come touch Bellini all that believe Paul's been sick. He had he's fighting

cancer right now and they had a little fundraiser for him at the Rivoli and they did a show at the Danforth Music Hall last week and I actually worked with Paul Bellini at Proud FM. I hired Paul to do weekends and it was great. It was a neat moment in my life to go, wow, you know, Bellini and the towel works for me and I've stayed in contact with him. I've run into him at Second City a little bit. He teaches comedy writing. Uh, he is Scott Thompson's right writing partner. And uh, I said, look, they're coming on. I would like to be able to play a clip of it and uh, talk about it on the air. And they said,

sure, no problem. I said, uh, but I don't want to do it without saying you can come to my podcast to, and he was like, yeah, go for it. That's amazing. So which is great. Yeah. You're not going to get that everywhere. No, because the company you work for at Indy 88, that's where Indy comes from. They're not one of the big conglomerates like chorus or Bell or Rogers. No, they are independently owned. They've just gone through an ownership change. They were originally owned by Central Ontario Broadcasting, who also owns Rock 95 and Berry, if you know.

And now they've been bought by this company called Local Radio Lab lab who own four smaller radio stations that are all playing Christmas music right now. There's one in Milton, there's one in Simcoe County, I think Orangeville, a bunch of different ones. They own all four of those and yeah, there's a, there's going to be some interesting things happening. I think with those four stations and I am happy to be doing my weekend shift and filling in over the Christmas holidays, you're gonna be sick of me again. I'm gonna be there pretty much all the time over between Christmas and New Year's and leading up to Christmas. You know what? I'm happy to be on the air. It's I it just I you know, I've been very kind people have been very kind to me. It just feels right and I'm really enjoying it. Well, we've noticed, like for example, on the live stream at live.torontomike.com,

Leslie just wrote a comment, Bob seems so happy. Andy Pandy couldn't check, you know, what do you call it, thumbs up that quickly enough. I've noticed it, Rob, have you noticed that Bob's got like more jump in his step, like his swagger? Well, too. Like I heard on indie, like, like it was fun to tune in and just hear. Yeah. You sound he's happy to be back. I just, you know, so first of all, I'm not programming. I'm not the music director. I'm not the music director. I'm not the program director. I'm just the way I look at it. And I, and I actually said

this to a former program director of mine. If I have a five hour shift, that's five, 25 times for me to entertain people. I have five breaks an hour and that's all I have to concentrate on. And to me, that is amazing. And I think so every time I open the mic, there's no excuse not to have something prepared because I have 25 times to try to make people, because here's the thing again. You want to hear the music we're playing? It's there. Yeah, you can get it. So why would you listen to me? Hopefully I can either give you you can get a cheeseburger anywhere. Yeah, right you come to judge keys for the flare Yeah, I don't know where for the flare. Did you just make that up? No, you don't get that's from office space. Oh it is Okay

Chachki's and it's Michael judge. I Oh, it is. OK. Oh, yeah. It's looking at Chachki's and it's Michael Judge. I think. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So get a cheeseburger anywhere. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm the Chachki, you know, or whatever. You know, I don't know. You're the flair. Jennifer Anderson. You're the flair. Yeah.

I'm the reason. Yeah. The the Keene song. Somewhere Only You Know. Anybody can get that on demand whenever they want, but they're there to hear your voice, guide them along. And hopefully entertain and or inform or both or maybe make you giggle or make you think. And I gotta say it's been like a month

and it just, the Indy 88 listenership has really been really great and it feels good. And you know, I was ready, I was done. I started applying for jobs with the police and TTC, pardon me, and like, I was like, that's it, radio's done with me because I had applied with so many different things. Yeah, but that's when the universe

comes back around to you, right? Yeah. Is when you're wanting to let it go, it comes back. And look, does radio have huge challenges? Absolutely. Maybe someday I'll be part of a team that has those discussions on how to get through those challenges, but right now, I got 25 Yep. That's it. That's it.

I got 25 breaks over the course of five hours to entertain people. And in the meantime, I want to come and hang out with my friends here and continue to do my podcast. Cause Rob, you know, soon he won't take our call. He will have an assistant. We'll be auditioning replacements for the radio star Bob O'Lan. Now, Rob, yes, not to be. I said, Monica said, Oh, so they're both Roberts. And I said, yeah, he goes, she goes, Oh, you should play that up more. And I'm like, Oh,

except he's Bob. Like, how do you play that? Or is the question Rob and Robert and Robert or something or Robert squared or something. She was thinking about it, but there's a big difference between Rob and Bob. Can you explain further? Well, when I was a kid, my best- You've got my attention now. My best friend's name was Bob. So he lived across the street from me.

Bob Hunter was his name. And we were very specifically Robbie and Bobby. And there's no comparison. Like I never even thought when we were kids that we- So that's why Robson Bob's our kids. Yeah, no, I was Bobby as a kid. I was Robbie. It's still and I was.

So I was Bobby because I was named after my dad's cousin Bobby. And then when I went to high school, I said, I thought I'd be Rob. Didn't take. Yeah. Wouldn't do it. Couldn't do it. My friend, Bob changed his fricking name to Rob. Did it work? Did people keep his wife calls him Rob now and all his friends now as an adult call him Rob.

But all he and his mom were like, fuck that. You're Bob. Yeah. Yeah. But Bob on LinkedIn, you're Robert. Calls him Rob now and all his friends now as an adult call him Rob, but I'll is and his mom were like fuck that your Bob Yeah, yeah, that's Bob on LinkedIn. You're Robert Yeah, I'm Robert it but I have Bob in the in the question for I heard you on Indy 88 on the weekend Yeah, you're still just Bob. Yeah, so why not? The willet so I do sometimes I do here honestly the reason why I don't say Bob Willett every time it doesn't flow off the fucking mouth very well. Will it Bob Willett?

And if you're like trying to say Toronto's modern music in the 88, it's Bob Willett. What about Bingo Bob? So I have I have referred to that as well. It's what's been interesting if you if you not that you asked, but what's been interesting is how many people have either texted the radio station or called in the radio station and asked, hey, are you that bob who

worked on the humble and French like there's like up until this very past weekend, there were people that's amazing. Yeah, it is that's going back to 98 or it wasn't going back. No, no, two thousand and three, my policy two thousand and three at mix ninety nine. It was the last time I was bingo bob on the air officially, but I still sometimes will say that I am the artist formerly known as Bingo Bob as a joke and I will say my last name. However, it's honest to God. It's just because Bob will let is not easy to say. That's all I I'm very much proud of my last name. I would say it all the time if I could know. I'm only thinking that you need to have a brand, right? Oh, I had a guy the other day

who who reference he texted me saying, is it jungle Jay jungle Jay Nelson, right was chum FM or chum AM. Yeah 1050 Yeah, 10 is a sign. Yeah. Yeah, so jungle Jay Nelson young. Yeah, so he was like man. You need a better use Bob's just not gonna cut it. He's like you need something better man Like a guy like jungle Jay Nelson, right and I said well I used to be bingo Bob I mean, you know and I still reference it every now and then. It's fine. How about Bob Dub? Yeah, but B-Dubs is what I, some people call me B-Dubs.

Bob Dub, yeah. Okay. So we're happy for you, Bob Willett. It's all about me right now, guys. You're back on the right, yeah. Well, we're getting, Rob and I have spent a lot of time together lately, so. So I want to tell people Saturday was TMLX 17. Bob Willett could not be there because he was on the air at Indy 88.

Cause as we just learned, he's been on 11 days in a row, which is incredible. Rob Bruce was there. Yeah. And then yes, so we're going to get back to TMLX 17, but we hung out obviously at TMLX 17. I'm going to talk a bit further about that with you in a moment.

But then yesterday, when I was moderating that panel, when Gary Topps book was launched at the Red Room at the Masonic Temple, you were there and I was hanging with you. I also- Thanks for giving me a shout out from the stage. You know what? I remembered like, remember I couldn't really read my notes

and then I was going from the memory and then I realized, oh no, I left the edge, not the station. You got back to it. The venue. And then I'm like, oh, and I forgot to shout out Rob Pruse, who, as you know, Bob, he made his Spoons debut as a teenager, the day, sorry, I guess the night that John Lennon was murdered, the assassination of John Lennon,

that same day, that's December 8th, 1980, right? That was the day you made your debut, very soon. That was the day you made your Spoons debut at the edge, which was a Gary's presentation. Right. So I managed to, and by the way, I'm a little ticked off because by all accounts, I did a pretty good job. How did I do amazing job? You're not just saying that because you love me. And, but you stood up the whole time. I thought maybe you would have taken that chair that was in front of you. I have nervous energy. Like I don't want to see the nervous energy, but you did

a great job though. Like, I mean, you, you kind of kept it contained. I stand when I'm on the air. These boom, these old guys start talking and their mics are sitting on the table. How many times did I say, we're not recording this? Like I might hear you, but I'm trying to get this. So I agreed to do this moderation. Ask me what I charged for my services on this day. Zero dollars and zero cents. But I said, okay, cause I wanted to be in this room with that crowd. This subject matter I was passionate about. It's right

in my wheelhouse. I've had all those people in my basement. I said, I'll do it, but you're going to give me the audio. You're going to record the audio, give me the audio. And then I'm going to do a little bump ring and like a little intro outro. And it's going to be an episode of Toronto. My truth. We're 24 more than 24 hours later. I don't have this audio. I'm actually like, you got ripped off. Well, where's my audio? I was going to drop that episode before this one. So this would have been 1591 anyway. So hopefully I do eventually get this audio because that was literally the whole payment. It'll be good for them to have it too, though, because I mean, it was a good conversation. It'll sell books and it'll sell books for sure.

And it was one or two books. I don't know. But anyway, I was honored to be there, but let's get back to TML X here. But before, uh, can we just let the people know our subject matter? What is the toast theme for today? This December, it's like December, how I interpret it and tell me it's December jams, but that could mean a festive jam. That could mean a winter jam. That could be a December jam. But the caveat is we can't kick out any jams we kicked out a year ago when we did the exact same time. Which we should, we should mention what we did last year at some point. No recycled jams. Yeah. No, we can't do it again. Yeah. So I'll drop one in a minute because I had a, I guess that, that, that I did last year, but like December 4th by Jay-Z I kicked out last year so I can't kick that out again so it'll be all original December jams

we're gonna get to it in a minute but Rob what did you think of TMLX 17? I had a good time it was it was getting the ship out of the harbor was a little tricky in the beginning with the sound. You mean inside the venue there was some feedback and we had to get that right before the upstairs area. Yeah. Yeah. Is it finished now? No, it's pretty finished. But in the beginning there was some drills going on and shit like, well there's another room. There's always pretty finished. I feel like I've been like, it's just like, it looks like a construction site. It really does. I mean, it looked a lot better from last year. Okay, good. Okay.

That's good. It was better. Um, but once, once you got it up and running, it was a lot better from the okay. Good. Okay, that's good was better But once once you got it up and running it was good I somebody made a comment that the last time you did one up there the Feed the audio feed from the people at the mics weren't wasn't as loud in here But it was better this time to keep talking So this time I sort of felt like we were watching like dinner theater Oh, that's nice, which was nice because we were all sort of focused on the table But it didn't allow for as much interaction amongst the tables themselves. Okay. So we're going to ask you about three, uh, three parts of the, uh, three hour episode

we recorded at TMLX that have kind of got the most like feedback. So this all happened Saturday. We're now talking on Monday. That's only a couple of days. So I'm going to give you a taste is the first few seconds of why, you know what? I'll play this in a minute. First, let's start with Kevin Shea. So the episode opened with Kevin Shea and I literally, I said these words, I'm going to pass the mic to you, Beastie Boy style, and you're going to tell the Jack McLean story. So I wanted to, I invited Kevin Shea to tell a story and I knew the story. Okay. You already knew the story. So I wanted him to tell the story, to open up. So I was all pre-orchestrated. Yep. I had made a decision before I passed the mic to Kevin Shea. I was not going to interrupt him. Yep. I was going to stay away.

Like I had basically said, Mike, let him go until he's done. Yep. Like if the man was going to take an hour to tell that story, I was going to f*****g sit there for an hour. This is the truth. I wasn't going to interrupt. Okay. So I let him go and he hit his, you know, he finished that story a little over 21 minutes later. Yep. Some people said, Oh, you let them go half an hour, 21 minutes. So I, I in the room, I thought, Oh, it's going to be a long story, but I knew the story and I love the story and I love the way he tells it. Okay. It was amazing.

I listened back because a couple of jokes came at me that, oh, you just let the guy go for 21 minutes. Like as if I should have at the eight minute mark said, Hey, let's get to the point, Kevin. Hurry up, buddy. Hurry up. Okay. We got to get this in 10 minutes. No, if you wanted to take 45 minutes, it was going to let them take 45 minutes.

This is the nicest human on the planet. Yeah. Who is a great storyteller telling a story I already loved. Okay. Yeah. So I'm here to say, yes, the story is long and that like I gave him 21 minutes, but I, I listened back. I loved it again. It's a tremendous story. He tells it very well. And I'm very glad I did not interrupt or interfere with his storytelling. Do you think that we all have such a short attention spans in the modern world? Thank you. Can't handle listening to somebody tell a story for 20 minutes.

I said this yesterday. I said it. We're at the point now where you can't listen to a well told story. That is a good story for 21 uninterrupted minutes. And most of us are listening at like fucking 1.6 or two times the speed anyways, right? If you can't give a story 21 minutes, maybe this is the wrong- How many people came back with that feedback though?

Several people said it was long, but the overwhelming majority of those people said it was worth it. Well, I found it more worth it actually listening again. Like once you uploaded it, I listened to it again to see, did it, did it feel like it was going by the way it did when we were there? And it actually went by faster the second time. Alive in a room. If you're not expecting it.

Like I can understand the impatience. Yeah, I don't think it's about I appreciate that you're defending your friend in the storytelling, his storytelling prowess. But in in a in, in, in a, in a, in a, in a environment such as that. And I, and I will fully admit I'm doing this based on not hearing anything about it at all. I can understand why people would be like, wow, that was, uh, that was a lot. I totally understand why people would say that unless this guy is like telling a story and I don't, I'm

trying to think of somebody who tells like great long stories like, like, and I don't like the rapey stuff aside, Bill Cosby would tell a 20 minute story that like you could listen to Bill Cosby. No, you could, but you could listen to somebody tell a 20 minute story. Yeah. And I, again, I didn't hear it, but I can understand why, but, and you, you brought your, you're proving the exact, the point was like, when I listened to it back after it was very good, but in the room, it was hard. I totally understand that. But I do feel like Kevin is a good, is that kind of

storyteller that in he's, he's looking at the longer term. He's looking at the bigger picture. He's here. The story that he's unfolding for us is for our own good. And I didn't know it was going to go 21 minutes, but I also knew I'd committed. I told myself before I passed the mic, I'm not, I'm not, I'm letting them go. Like, so if he, I know I was thinking this could go. I think I warned Elvis. I said, this might go 15 minutes. And he had a few, just a few notes to refer to states. And I was, I sort of watched you at a couple of points and I thought it might

throw his balance off if you sort of try to say something. So I listened back and I thought, okay, let's say I was going to edit the program. Okay. Yeah. The way he constructs that story. Yep. I actually don't want to edit any of it. Like it's a 21 minute story. And if that's too long for you, then I don't know edit the program. Okay. Yeah. The way he constructs that story, I actually don't want to edit any of it. Like if it's a 21 minute story and if that's too long for you,

then I don't know what that maybe there were like a couple of points in the story. There were like goose bump. Yeah. Bob, you have to listen to it. And I know I looked at Elvis and the tears were in his eyes because there's a, there's a punch that he doesn't know what's coming. Like, remember I know what's coming right now, but it gets to that point. And absolutely, even though I knew the story, I got the clue. Let's listen to it now.

Everybody join us again in 21 minutes. Okay. Actually, so. No, do it on the podcast. Somebody I know and love made a reference to my mother that they were surprised I let somebody open the show with 21 uninterrupted minutes. Okay. And then I basically did, I told my mom, I said, and this is on my ride home from the, uh, where was I? Yesterday, the concert

hall yesterday. I was biking home on Bloor when I was having this chat. Okay. The Bloor bike lanes are fucking awesome by the way, but Yeah. Enjoy them now. Love it. So I'm biking on Bloor. I said, I said to her, I said something like, okay, do me a favor, mom. I said, hang up with me now, go to torontomike.com press play. I said, hang up with me now, go to torontomike.com, press play. I said four minutes into the TMLX episode, Kevin starts. It is exactly 21 minutes, because I had already timed it, because somebody said, oh, a half an hour. I said, well, it's 21 minutes.

So come phone me back right after and tell me what you think. And about 21 minutes later, I'm still on the ride. And now I'm on Royal York. The phone's ringing. I answer it. My hand's free. And my mom said, I don't care about hockey. I don't care too much about the leaves. She said that was a beautiful story. I loved it. Oh, it's great. Anyways, that's so that's what I said. So Kevin, Shay, that opens the episode 21 minutes later. And I'm just going to

I'll listen to it on the way home tonight on the go train. Okay. What, what speed do you listen to Toronto Mike that 1.5. Okay. So you'll get through it in faster than 21 train. Okay. What speed do you listen to Toronto Mike that? 1.5. Okay. So you'll get through it in faster than 21 minutes. Okay. So you sound the same at 1.5 as you do at 1.0, which I think is amazing.

Because I have a high pitched voice. Well, it's the speed. It's the temperature of the show. I get, do you know how often the owner of the company was like, hey Bob, next time, could you talk a little faster and a little louder, please? Is that right? Oh yeah, no, he's joking about like,

I talk pretty loud and I talk pretty fast. You do talk loud because I was looking at my fader here and you're the only guy where I have to bring it down below me. Yeah. And I, cause I talk pretty close. My hot, hot, hot. You know, you got a great fucking voice. You got a great voice.

My Jeff Woods style voice. You wish. Okay, buddy. I don't have Jeff. So here's how a certain guest opened. Okay. You ready, Rob? Yep. Alan, you yelled at me, but no one could hear you because the mics weren't pointing in your direction.

I yelled at you because it was really boring and you let a politician, no offense, make a speech for 10 minutes on your fast talk. Well, probably closer to five minutes. And I did, on the other hand, I did know, I did understand what he was talking about, which I haven't understood a fucking thing since I got here what is this so that's literally his opening yeah as you know it was much longer I pulled one short

clip kind of somewhere in the middle here let's listen to that he's just fucking laughing it's like Ed McMahon here all Who is this? What? Anyway. Hi-yo! This is way better than the fucking Stanley Cup story. Way better. Okay, so the woman laughing there is Katie Lor, and the gentleman who made fun of Elvis and called him my Ed McMahon, which I think is cool, you know? Take it. You're ready right here. I need someone to laugh at my fucking jokes, and Elvis is good at that.

I needed a great job, and we love Elvis. But that's Alan Zweig, and I'm getting a lot of comments about Kevin Shea, almost overwhelmingly positive people telling me they're on the subway listening and they're weeping. Okay. So the Kevin Shea comments, almost all great. They'll say, you can be two things at once. You can have a long, it's a long story, but it's worth it and good. Okay. But, uh, Alan's Y seems to be taking a lot of the oxygen on this TMLX 17. Rob, you told me you were sitting near him. He was right beside me. Cause there's people like Bob who weren't there and will listen. Yeah. Kim Gordon gave me this feedback. Like it's not as bad as he thought it was going to be based on some conversations in

the chat. Cause you had to be there for a part of this because I can't hear, I was wearing the headphones with Elvis and my guests. I couldn't hear anyone yelling like you guys could have been screaming at me from the back and I wasn't going to hear it okay so you'll now speak to what he was yelling at us but then at some point he realizes we can't hear him and he storms the table and he leans in there's great I took video of this I have footage of it and he screams at me like from closer than we were Bob is right now to me Right and he starts screaming at me and then I put him on the mic and then you hear this right here So Rob you were sitting near Allen's why I was because I was sitting to tell us what what happened Well, I was sitting with Jim Shedden and then when Blair loved that guy by the way

Then Blair Packham arrived with Allen and Simon Rackham and Simon Yep Oh cool And they had their food and stuff and so they pulled up up to the chair, to the table where I was, and I was excited because I thought, oh, I've never met Alan before anyways. So he was eating beside me, and I spoke to Blair a bit,

and then I finally leaned over and introduced myself to Alan. And as you guys were talking, and then the bike lane conversation was happening, and he just, he's like under his breath, he was like boring, but like loud enough that the people around him could sort of hear it.

And I had that sort of uncomfortable feeling of like, when you're nears like somebody in a bar who's like causing a disruption that you're like, okay, I hope this doesn't get escalated, you know, because I thought, I don't really know him. You thought there might be fisticuffs. Yeah, I didn't know. We had a referee in the room.

I thought he might come and break it down. Even when he walked up to you at the table and made the comment Like about the ed mcmahon comment. I was like like are you are you looking for a fight or I don't quite understand it But is that is that's just who he is. I guess well, he is a like his brand is sort of be a curmudgeon He's kind of a it's got a movie called curmudgeon. Yeah. Yeah, I curmudgeon or something Yeah, and he's right on brand and that's what I expect from him. And that's actually what I like I refreshed by the fact he kind of tells it like it is and he doesn't bullshit me or whatever. I kind of like it. Oh, well, you're going to vote for Trump next? Jesus Christ. They

say the same thing. But here's the interesting thing. I don't want, I don't want Allen's wide to be my prime minister. No, I could. But the same way that the, uh, listening to, uh, Kevin Shea story in the room is different than the experience of listening to it after the fact. And you sort of take it in a different way. I think Alan's, uh, he comes off less, less abrasive when you listen to the fact in the room. He, there was like, I don't know. That sounded pretty fucking abrasive to me. It was, it was, but it's actually a little bit less like, like it's a little bit less abrasive than how he appeared in the room. And what triggered him, if that's the right word was a Brad Bradford drop by. That's Bob's friend.

Oh yeah, I'm not a fan. Now he's a nice enough guy, but I'm not a fan of his politics. But he, you know, here's the thing at TML X events, anyone who wants on the mic and puts up their hand and says, I'd like to go on mic, I let anyone on, like anyone. There's not a human who doesn't get on the mic

if they want to come on the mic. And Brad Bradford loves Toronto mic, he's an FOTM and he wanted on the mic. So of course he was going to have, I'm going to have a few minutes of Brad. And my first thought was I'd like to ask him why he voted, uh, you know, in favor or whatever the words are for two 12. Like why is he in favor of bill two 12,

which is about ripping up the blue or in the university in the young bike lanes. So we did, I don't know, I didn't time it, but it might've been like seven or eight minutes or whatever on that. And then I was going to say, Hey, come to the basement for a deeper dive. So people like Alan can skip the episode because they don't want to hear more about it. But this is a three plus hour recording. And I was going to give a guy I respect. We don't, I don't agree with him politically. And I really hate this view on bike lanes. You gave him the time that you gave him the time you gave Kevin Shea.

Yeah, I gave, Oh, I didn't give him that much. No, no, but I mean, but you stayed out of the way to let the conversation., like I'm not gonna interrupt them. He's gonna politic He's a politician and I was gonna let him do his thing and I had a few things to say and I was gonna thank him For being there and he said happy holidays and then we're gonna move on Yeah, but Alan was didn't like that. We were talking about bike lanes with a politician But but it like what you did there was what we all need to do more like let's just like let the other side talk For a little bit Yeah

Like and not just hate each other right away as much much as Brad Bradford, who lives around the corner from me, by the way, as much as he's not East York itself, the damn fourth. I just, you know, he's sure it's fine, but I don't live in East York. I live south of the damn fourth. But he's like, so the thing is, though, what you did was fine. Like there's, we just don't listen enough to each other's sides. We don't have to agree. No, I'm with you. I, that's where like I had Bruce Dobegin in here and he started talking about what he likes about Trump and like, yeah, I'm thinking like I could stomp on this asshole for his stupid dinosaur antics or whatever, but

let's hear the human out. I like the guy. I respect his opinion. I'll hear him out. As long as I don't hear like hate speech, right? Like don't go hating somebody because of the color of their skin or their religion or their sexual Political affiliation. Yeah, you should not hate somebody based on their political if you hate someone for hating bike lanes So, okay, you can hate that opinion of them, right? But I don't know they have but I but they somebody who hates bike lanes might be a really good person Who just hates bike lanes because all they do is drive You're talking about Joe Louie. You're talking about Joe Louis,

you're talking about Dale Cadeau. There's a lot of people there who hate bike lanes. I'm talking about Uncle Phil who listens, you know? Oh, Uncle Phil, okay, buddy, let's have a beer and we'll talk about it. So we're at Great Lakes. Okay, so we'll move on from TMLEC 17 except one piece of good news.

How was the sandwiches? Oh my God, the food was amazing, right? The food was amazing, yeah, yeah, yeah. Food was amazing. I missed, I really, I love the sandwiches there, oh my God. I, speaking as Zwei, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, it. Anyway, I had a fucking great time at GMO. And I think thankful for everybody who took time out of their busy Saturday to show up. And I enjoyed all three hours of the recording. It was a moment I love most of all. So I just want to say hello to a FOTM Hall of Famer.

And it's not Peter Gross. It's not even Stu Stone, who's in this basement later this week. Oh, leave a Fumka made a big announcement. She announced to us all. And I just put a little YouTube clip of this moment because apparently Elvis who is a cancer survivor himself has been offering some one-on-one support to leave a Fumka as she battled cancer and her latest test results say she's cancer free and we did I mean when I wish she said it and then the whole room broke into applause and

When you hear that it's like nothing else really mad nothing else good. No, that's it That's all that matters best fucking news in the world You know what I want to I just want to say I think it's terrific that you just you what you acknowledged But obviously her health but the fact that people take their time out of their lives to come and hang out with you Do you know like that's what we all like in radio?. Do you know, like that's what we all, like in radio, that's all we ever like, that's what we've tried, you know, come out to this future shop because we're going to do blah, blah, blah, what you do and when the community you've created, these people are motivated to come see you and see each other. And it really, it's lightning in a bottle and yeah, and it's amazing. And I'm happy to be a part of it. And but it's really, oh, hey, what's this song?

I never heard it before um, but no like it I think what you just said the most important thing is like Thank you for taking your time out of your Saturday and coming Yeah, like never mind just taking the time to listen these people got off their asses and came to see you was amazing It's amazing. I'm on each other. It's really cool. And I love seeing everybody there. They're good people. Yeah, you know most of them It's really cool. And they're good people. You know, most of them. Good times. Why am I playing the song, Rob? I don't know. Do you know there was a big anniversary since we last had a toast episode? Since the 40th anniversary, since it was released. 40 years. Since it hit the low charts and stuff. Well, let's talk about that for a minute.

Because Wise Plot said it was a radio hit in a certain pocket. Yeah, I would say, but, but you mean it's a lead charge smarts. Like, I know, I think it lives on more from the video, like, which I'm, I'm very proud of that. Like I think that it, it, people in Toronto like to talk about the video because it represents an era of subway system. And we missed the red rocket. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So, but yeah, it's the 40th anniversary, which I was actually talking about that just the other day that we didn't, we're playing some retro stuff like this. Uh, I played, uh, I played some, uh, I played like Depeche mode and the police and, and, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

erasure, erasure. Thank you. It's weird. I had Andy Bell and not a radio anyhow, working at the game radio station as well. But,. But I was talking also about how the federal government is like ponying up $700 million or whatever for line two, the Bloor Danforth line for new subway cars. And I said, I'm old enough to remember the red cars, but like just as a kid, like I just like, I'm like four or five years old. Yeah. And like, but, and the lights flashing on and off and stuff. And that's really showing my age on the air.

But it's, and then yeah. This is even older. Yeah, no, it's not older than that. No, but I mean, yeah. Yeah, it was like a thing. But I think the song has, I think what Wisebawt said is true is like, there's so much, Toronto's a really unique market

in that certain bands, whether they're from Toronto or not, have had crazy success. And I think this song has crazy success because, I mean, there's obviously the proximity, but it was way more, just because it didn't chart on RPM. Yeah, no, I know. Doesn't mean it wasn't popular here. That's the thing, for me, I don't really give a shit

about the chart action at all. I'm more excited in the fact that it lives on in the minds of people in Toronto. Cause I don't care. Like I just think it's a great sounding song still. And when people still like it, I'm like, it wasn't even that big of a hit. Do you do the lyrics? No. Do I do you do, do you do the music? No, just music. Yeah. He wrote do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

No. Was it like, did you have that done? Like, no. Well, like cause we would always do the music first and then Gordon do lyrics and stuff after the fact. So he always tells the story that he was trying to think of words for that. Who came up with that term romantic traffic? Gordon the lyricist. Yeah. It's really cool.

It's great. Yeah. But he always tells the story that he was going to try to fill in words in that section. And I was like, I just keep it. I've seen like McCartney do that. Like where he's like, Oh, you know, I just like, we're doing this and that and whatever. And he owns just like doodly do do do. And then all of a sudden that's actually the lyrics or whatever. And in those days, of course, you know, the police had their song. Doodly-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo The answer is automobile manufacturers don't want their product to be tied to, even though cars are traffic, like motorists are traffic. In their marketing, they do not want the word traffic anywhere close to their product.

You know what? If you know those ads, it's like, there's no traffic. These cars are driving up fucking mountains with no one around. You know what? I am not the program director of Indie88. However, perhaps we need a new bed for our traffic reports. And maybe that would be instrumental version of romantic try. You're going to do an original.

Yeah, because we'll get later. We'll talk about the new closing theme that Rob Proust has produced for Toronto Mike, and that's how we'll close this episode. OK, so I want to get to the December jams, but I actually, you know what happens during the month between toast episodes I'll be on a bike ride. I'll hear something and something trigger something in the FOTM group Somebody I don't know how this came somebody talked about The pink Cadillac song. Well, let me let me play some music and walk you through all this

Okay So this will take me a moment like a little divergence here if you don mind. And then we'll get back to the December jams here. Okay. It's Natalie Cole's version. Yeah. Okay. So this is- I had this on 45. Yeah. Cause this was a big fucking jam, especially for guys our age. Natalie Cole, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, Gone Too Soon. Recorded Pink Cadillac.

Bob, you could hit the post, right? Or you have a gene system, right? Like it tells you I'm a genius. I don't need it. But yeah, I do have it. I've seen it in action. But I don't need it. I can hit the post, but I'll walk the fucking vocals on the end of a song all the time. You just did there. No, I wasn't done.

Okay, so I have a few things to say I did good. No, I wasn't done. Okay, so I have a few things to say about this song. Rob, you remember when this was a current thing? Yes, of course. Yep. Okay. And this is not really meant to be a mind blow. I feel like I can hear my son saying, everybody knows that dad.

And of course, not everybody knows that. But this is a cover. Do we all know that? Yes. Yeah. Okay, we all know that. Okay. So I'm going to let her do the

chorus and then I'm going to bring it down. Baby, I'll spill the facts. Well, honey, it ain't your money. Big jam, right? Because I got plenty of that. I'll let you play your pick and lack. First down the six, cruising in the back. Moving down the street. OK, so there you go.

Spending all your money on a Saturday night. You had the 45 month. Yeah, my mom loved this song. My dad was a DJ for DJ youa this time. Listen to that production. Okay, so that's Natalie Cole. ["Foolin' Things I Do"] You may wonder how come I love ya When you get on my nerves like you do Well baby you know you love me There ain't no secret about that But come on over here and love me Baby I'll spill a fact So Rob, you're a little older than Bob Benoni, just a little bit, but do you remember when

this was current? No. I don't think I was ever a single. I don't think I knew that it was a cover when Natalie Cole's version was on the radio. I didn't know until years later. Can you name his artist, Rob? His artist? Sounds familiar.

Is it his name rhyme with my last name? Prus? Yes. Pruuuus. Why are they booing him? I was at the concert, everybody was fucking booing the guy. Like he's doing a great job, three hours straight effort, why are they booing him? I was at the concert. Everybody was fucking booing the guy. Like he's doing a great job. Three hours, great effort.

Why are they booing him? Did he play this song? Bruce Springsteen. No, he did not. I think he plays it very often. No, but he did play a song we're going to hear tonight. That's just a teaser. Oh yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yes. Take a teaser here. OK, so. Yeah, I heard that. This is the original Pink Cadillac by Bruce Springsteen. OK? Can you name Bruce Springsteen's No Longer With Us, although his nephew is an FOTM?

Who was his saxophonist in the E Street band? Clarence. Clarence Clemens, okay? So keep that in the back pocket. Here's another song. No writing credit to Bruce. Okay, no writing credit to Bruce. Great synth bass.

It's nice. It's like, you didn't even remember. His fingers came out right away. Yeah. Who do you think's on saxophone right now? Is that Clarence? That's Clarence Clements, okay. So that's the E Street band saxophone is from the original from the Cadillac and Natalie

Cole's pink Cadillac by the way. This is who's? Who's who? No, it's a bit before that. I love that synth bass. Wait for it. What decades is from? 85. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five.

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Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Natalie Cole's cover of Bruce. This has got to be Aretha Franklin, the queen of soul. Hearing Natalie Cole have a big song. And to me, this is like a part two for comfort. Yeah. But also then this was produced by a guy named Narada Michael Walden who produced

and you can hear the name slower. Narada Michael Walden. Okay. He produced for Whitney Houston. How will I know? Oh, for sure. Yeah, which is exactly the saxophone It's his Clarence Clements Cadillac line is definitely Borrowed or an homage or whatever to pink Cadillac by Natalie Cole. Yeah for sure. We should also maybe include Guitars and Cadillacs and hillbilly music by Dwight Yocum in this very same conversation. I might what there's another kind of pink It's guitars and Cadillacs and hillbilly music There's another song so I'm listening so I'm going through this you know you fall into the trap

You're listening to pink Cadillac by Natalie Cole Which is a cover of Bruce comes out before Aretha Franklin's Freeway of Love, another big fucking hit. And then here's the song that enters my head because I fucking love this movie from 1985. You ready? No, don't sleep. ["Freeway of Love"]

Wow. We 80s the mid 80s now or what? Oh my God. This is the same song, right? Like the melody is exactly the same. as It's giving me You got nasty teeth. You're the big bad boy. I made yesterday's steak. Big bad boy. How many times have you guys seen Teen Wolf? Seven. Not enough, obviously.

This is like the theme song. I'm not going to lie. There was a free preview of First Choice Super Channel and Teen Wolf. First of all, I saw it in the theater. I saw it at the Humber Odeon in five because I was a big fan of back to the first. This one first Super Channel joined forces because there were two at one point. I know. I can't remember where it is.

Maybe it was just first. Yeah, because there's a preview. Yeah. And there's a montage where the he turned the realizes he's a good basketball player, Scott the Wolf played by Michael J. Michael J. Fox from Family Ties, which I love. Teen Wolf 2, Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman, yeah.

So this is, and Jason Bateman's sister was in Family Ties. Yeah. Yeah. So now the kids, she's the president of Actra now. Right. And she's aging gracefully. This is a big thing for her. Apparently.

She's not going to get Botox. She's not getting anything, no. So good for her. Or Goji or... So, Big Bad Wolf, terrible song, but this was all over Teen Wolf. This amount of talk today. But it's got the, like the... Doesn't it sound like... The lyr was all over Teen Wolf. This is a monotonic. It's got the lyrical melody is very similar. Who is this?

Who's the artist? It's like credited to like the Wolf Sisters. Really? The credit goes to the Wolf Sisters. So it's going to be the same people who produced probably. I bet you like it's like. But isn't this like, I don't know. These are the background singers for Aretha Franklin.

I'm telling you. It's, but you know what it is? Because all the technology in the 80s was the same. Yeah. Like everybody used the same drum machine and the same synthesizers, and everybody was inspired by Prince. And so it became... Did you hear Gary Topps' fun fact mind blow?

Yes. Yesterday? Yes. Bob, you'll love this. The police picnic. Yeah. First one. The very first one.

In Oakville. Legendary. Legendary. And Bob was not there because we First one. The first one. The very first one he does. Legendary. Legendary. And Bob was not there because we were babies. You were babies. So he tried to get- 6'7", what? 81.

81, I was five. He wanted this young up in, this young singer named Prince to be in the lineup. Wow. And police said, no way, Jose. They didn't want him there. They didn't want him there. Oh wow.

But that's a mind blow, right? Yeah. That's a mind blow for sure. The Gary's tried to get Prince in the lineup for the interesting is that in that same year he had done some shows with the Rolling Stones. He had opened for the stones somewhere in the States and I think he was not getting a good reaction. And so maybe they already heard that as well. I think it's racism. Possibly possibly. Or they don't want to be wouldn't play Prince either or they don't want to be

fucking over like, like, uh, in in his shadow because he was so good. It was early days for Prince. It doesn't matter you saw him even then I bet you they're like oh never mind. We don't need that. Okay so we're not kicking this out because I kicked it out last year. This is counting the throws. I did break. That's right. Right you did break. Seems like yesterday. It does. A year ago guys look at this. So should we hug? Yeah this is a great we're gonna get into December jams now. This is the December jam. We're gonna give it a moment

and I'm gonna play the song that this song reminds me of, okay? And it's one more day up in the canyon And by the way, I like this song very much. I love this song. I hate the band. I just love this song. One more night in Hollywood If you think that I could be forgiven I wish you were.

Okay, so we all know Long December by Counting Crows. You want to hear the song that August and Everything After? No, Recovering the Satellites. This is on. Right. Which was the second album. Second album. Not the Mr. mr. Jones on no not August and everything after Hospitals and winter okay, we kicked it. I fucking can't stand him, but I love three songs by them Yeah, right right here around here around here this mr. Jones are all three great songs, but I he's an asshole I cannot stand him he dated Jennifer Aniston. He did them all. He's in this video. Yeah. Yeah I the fact that he wrote the line up family ties Courtney Cox was Michael J Fox's

Circle, it's all coming back was in Bruce Springsteen's video The fact so I I've told it before I'll tell you more quickly. quickly saw them at Massey Hall August everything after is coming out recovering the satellite is out recovering the satellites is coming out August everything afters out they didn't play mr. Jones really yeah fuck them they're dead to me but so but I do love this song although I do find it funny that the guy who has you know bedded at Jennifer Aniston says oh maybe life is all a lot of oysters and no pearls. You got some fucking pearls, buddy. Here's the song that's to me,

similar vintage on this also played on, you know, on similar radio stations. This song is what I think of when I think of a long December, you ready? I want to see if Bob agrees with me and YouTube Rob, of course, but here we go. I got in trouble for playing this before. I'll need that story. They're from Buffalo, you know. Yeah, no, because I called it a radio jam. Remember? Oh, yeah.

It was on this goddamn show you some. I thought you got in trouble. I was like, no, for you, the rock or something. You gave me shit. I was on a radio jam because I said a tired song keeps playing on a tired radio I was right to give you trouble. Yeah, whatever you lost last time Doesn't have like it's the same vibe as a long December. Oh, yeah, it's like that middle sort of I called them So this era is like that post CFN what the edge edge 102 is like is edge 102 And then there's all these bands as the goo-goo dolls maroon 5 train

And all they yeah 1998 to 2000 I was gonna say 97, but yeah, yeah, like it's all those bands Yeah, that's that middle of the road kind of what they'll happen That was just shit a lot of it, but I like this song I like it too But like if you look at like the evolution of music through the 90s and you had in the early days You know radio had smashing pumpkins. Yep, and you had I do like the song I think it's but it got it got a little too milk toast. Yeah, sure Yeah, but the guitar like you could take it I've really tried to as I've got as I've aged to get rid of my

Irrational hatred for music there for things in general, but I have irrational like my Matthews hatred. Dave Matthews is number one for me. I tried real hard to like him for a while. Number two is Train. Yeah, well Train's terrible. Like it just sucks. Fucking garbage. You know what though? Drops of Jupiter is a garbage song.

No, no, no. No, I can't. Oh, but the only reason that I like the song. Rob's favorite song. No, it's not. But the string arrangement on the song is by this guy named Paul Buckmaster who used to do string arrangements for Harry Nilsson and Elton John in the 70s and and

I didn't know listen to his other stuff yeah yeah I didn't know that Paul Buckmaster did the strings on drops of Jupiter until many years later and I thought that's why the song is so good it's the most redeeming quality. It's the only song they did that you can stomach. Yes even then I still it's an immediate turnoff. Soul Sisters way worse. It's the least soulful song I think in the English language catalog. Even then, I still, it's an immediate turn off. But Soul Sister's way worse. Hey Soul Sister. It's a Lee Soulful song, I think, in the English language catalog. Anyway, so.

Okay, so breaking news though. Okay, go ahead. I don't want to interrupt you, but Annie's telling us that Justine Bateman may be a weirdo mega anti-vaxxer now. She is now. No, I mean, I think she always was. That's breaking news on the live stream.

What? I'm disappointed to learn this about Justine Bateman. No, I thought, Justine Bateman is all about, like, she's like anti, I didn't think she was anti-vax. Okay, well, Andy knows her shit, man. All right, absolutely. And we saw Andy at TMLX17, always a pleasure to see her. Yeah, no, the lines are blurring, though,

with somebody like Justine Bateman. Blurred lines is a difference, so. It's a whole different world. Yeah, it's a different song. But the lines are blurring with people who feel free to speak politically now. Ah, it's a different song. But the lines are blurring with people who feel free to speak politically now. Ah, yes.

I think. Where I don't know that there are specific lanes anymore. Okay, but there's the difference between anti-vax and anti-vax mandates. Like two different things. Oh yeah, of course. Of course. The anti-vax, I don't have any, I won't give you any time because you have no junk science. You're not going to, like that I don't want to hear, but the anti-vax mandates, I'll hear you out. Yeah, yeah. You know what you're being? Reasonable. You're not allowed to that I don't want to hear but the anti-vax mandates I'll hear you out yeah you know what you're being reasonable but you're not allowed to be reasonable in these things you actually have to you've taken

you've taken two extreme two views and you've actually separated them you've taken you've used logic you can't do that I'm all about the internet okay so can we listen to me I got a pee like I'm gonna go pee because I'm gonna about the body autonomy over here. It's the internet. Okay, so. So can we listen to some music? I gotta pee? Like I'm four pints in now. Go pee, Bobblet. We'll listen to see how your stream sounds. Cut the music. I would like a full report on the strength of his stream, so listen closely, okay?

I'm gonna shout out. I'm gonna move the mic over. Palma Pasta fed us on Saturday and everybody had a great time. Dave Charles called me today to say how much he loaded up. He bought a bunch of Palma pasta at Palma's Kitchen and he said his wife, who's of Italian descent, says it's the best Italian food outside of Italy. I was very excited. I introduced myself to Dave Charles because I was a huge fan of him on the radio when I was a little, little kid. I remember his name and I said, Oh my God, I listen to you when I would like in my most

formative radio listening years. He was on C K O C in Hamilton. Kevin Shea was most excited to see you. Oh my Proust and Dave Charles. I was excited to see Kevin to and seen him in real life in ages. I want to say I want to order you yes, because tomorrow I'm going to sit down of Al Grego, who hosts later that same life. Season seven has been dropping the past couple of months. The final episode of season seven features a gentleman who gave us all gifts at TML X 17. Yeah. And I would love to thank

tie the Christmas guy from retro festive because my kids got like one of my kids got a baby Yoda and what's the name of those things? Fun Funko pops Funko pops okay so basically everyone who attended got these gifts but amazing gifts and my daughter she loved hers I think it's Minnie Mouse my daughter got Funko pops so these gifts which you can get a fest retro festive dot CA in Oakville tie the Christmas guy yeah in Oakville so tie the Christmas guy is Al Gregoville. So tie the Christmas guy. Yeah. In Oakville. So tie the Christmas guy is Al Gregor's guest. Tie the Christmas guy gave us all gifts at TMLX 17 and Al Gregor will be in the basement

tomorrow to talk more about season seven of yes we are open. I love that last episode. I listened to a bunch of the episodes of this season so far and I've enjoyed them all. Thanks to you. He's a cuddly sob that Al Gregor. He's a nice fella. What I like about what he does on his podcast is he's got like in the room, like he goes into the spaces. Yeah. He's got his like phone recording to get the on be on

Doors open and then you'll hear somebody, you know burp from the other room I love that getting the guy was flushing and stuff. Wonder if he had it said the burps or whatever How was a bubble? Let's flow Rob. It was consistent. It was consistent. Yeah, it was strong Okay, yeah, I'm for I'm now I'm three pints and a glad and a ten. We're gonna get to the actual jam Yeah, it's gonna say I'm gonna be loaded. I'm kind of half loaded now and I'm exhausted. Let's go This show's gonna be great. I'm gonna fall asleep in the chair there last but not least Recycle my electronics dot CA that's where you go If you have old electronics old cables

You need recycled the exciting news last week is cliff hacking announced on this very program He's renewing his sponsorship of Toronto my for all of 2020. I want to sponsor Bob's basement Yeah, I was seven months without a gig a million downloads and that's now sounds like I'm saying I'm better than you I'm not even don't even mean to do, except I'd never look at the fucking numbers. I had to look at the numbers for humble and Fred and then Ian service is the guy who, uh, I co-locate the server from him and he spits out from the server logs. He spits out the analytics and the number was well past a million. And I thought all your episodes.

Yeah. Well, that's amazing. Like episodes in 20 downloads or listens, which is it? Downloads. So I obviously some somebody might've downloaded a hundred episodes. No. Downloads and listens, which is it? Downloads, so obviously somebody might've downloaded 100 episodes. No. So they're not gonna count as one,

they're gonna count as 100. Yeah. But over a million downloads of Toronto Mic'd in 2024. That is phenomenal. Congratulations. Thanks, man. Well deserved. Many of those episodes have your beautiful voice.

No, you know what? That's amazing, man. Good for you. Thank you, my friends. Thank you so much. I'm really happy for you. Okay. I'm going to go run around the house, do a victory lap. Go do that one. Let's play some music and I'm going to, uh,

I'm going to open up my fifth beer. And I'm looking forward to Brad Jones's visit. Hopefully he's not here to pick up my corpse. Okay. But he's going to record a new episode of life's undertaking and that will drop on Wednesday. I enjoy all of his episodes as well. Okay. He'd love to hear that. Yes. No, I really do. There's something comforting about the conversations

you guys have together that I appreciate. Amazing, so I can't wait to hear what he's got in store for us on Wednesday. We're gonna record, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Now we're gonna kick out the jams here. We're gonna start with you, Rob Pruse. I've got your first jam loaded up. What would you like to say

before I kick out your first December jam? I would like to say that this is the first song that came into my head whenever I think of a winter jam Since I was like 12 13 years old. It was on an album that I loved very much and This is the song do her The End In the wintertime, when all the leaves are brown, and the wind blows, and the birds have all flown for the summer. I'm calling, hear me calling, hear me calling Ah, ah, ah In the wintertime, when all the leaves are brown Rob, I need to know more about this song because it reminds me of another song.

We've got to give them pass the mic to you. Beastie Boys style. Okay. Who are we listening to here? This is the Steve Miller band. Wow. Steve Miller, yeah. I know Steve Miller.

Yeah. It's called Wintertime. It was on his album, book of dreams, which came out in 77 and it's, it was in between two huge hits. It was in between, uh, no, that was earlier jet airliner, jet airliner, big old. So the album cover by the way, I know. Oh, it is. You're right. You knew that. Cause the guy who sang it died like five years ago and I remember saying, Oh, I didn't know that was his home. I didn't know that until right now. Actually too. I was this, this year's old when I learned. So, so on the album, it was comfy. Bob looks, doesn't he look comfy? He was digging the music.

Yeah. I was like, I don't, I don't, uh, I don't like weeds. Not my thing, but this would be a good, right? Yes. 100%. I thoughtish too, right? Yes, totally Pink Floyd. It's got a little Pink Floyd vibe. 100% I thought Pink Floyd. Yeah, yeah. Canada Cab is getting high right now listening to it. Maybe I should pick up the weed. I like this song a lot. Yeah, yeah. That's really cool.

But on the whole album, like on this whole side one, it sits in between, there's an instrumental, then there's Jet Airliner, then there's Wintertime, then the song Swing Town, which is another single. But it's just- On the greatest hits. Yeah. It's just such a great- This is really cool. Yeah, it's super cool. But you know what I'm going I'm listening to and it goes like all the leaves are I'm thinking all the leaves are brown

All the leaves are brown. So is this like a response to that? I don't know if it is actually okay. It's a good keep that thought in mind for my first jam. You don't mind Okay, that's really cool. It's a beautiful song. So the beginning of it like so this when this came out What's it called? It's called wintertime winter So the beginning of it, like, so this, when this came out, what's it called? It's called a winter time, winter time. The album is book of dreams. And those were the days, like when I was 11 or 12 years old and I was just getting into synthesizers and there was more electronics happening on the radio. Okay. Okay. We once kicked out like December jams with the original toast crew. I think it was a pandemic Friday. I don't know who you're talking about. They're in the intro. Peter gross shedded a mouth.

But, uh, we, we got mad up cam for playing this, uh, because it goes all the leaves are well, now for this for California dream. Yeah. All the leaves are brown in the sky. That's autumn, right? Uh huh. Like in winter, there's no leaves on the tree. The trees are brown in autumn, but they're on the floor on the ground. All right. All the leaves are brown and the sky is gray. So the leaves are on the ground. I think you got your wrong. Is that a winter jam? I think it's a winter jam.

It could be a winter jam. Is this song, I know this song is called Wintertime. In the wintertime. It could be a winter jam. Maybe it's an autumn jam. No, it's a wintertime. Nah, you're just kidding. I'm just gonna cause some trouble here.

I want the, you know what? Also, if you mishear it, it's all the leaves are brown and this guy is gay, is the other one. Oh, like there's a bathroom on the right. That's called a Montegreen. That's right. Montegreen, okay. Thank you for introducing me to that song like there's a bathroom on the right. That's called a Montagueen. That's right. Montagueen, okay. Thank you for introducing me to that song.

That's a really good song. The whole album is amazing, but yeah, this is my first. I wanna hear my first name of the album. Book of Dreams. Book of Dreams, that's going on the Spotify list. That song opens up with this sound of a synthesizer trying to sound like wind. It was like.

And I did the same thing on our second Spoons album. We had the album open with a song called Tradewinds, which was an instrumental. And my favorite thing on my synthesizer was to turn on the noise and just make a white noise. And you just use the filter and you make it sound like wind and it's super cool. I talked to you about that band Yardact that I like, this leads band. And I've really come and one of my favorite albums of the year, actually I'll be talking about them in a little

bit actually, but it has what I call beautiful noise. And I love beautiful noise. I do, too. I love beautiful noise. So this my first selection, not beautiful noise. There's no noise in this. Oh, the guy who wrote Jet Airliner and performed it originally was Paul Pena. Sure.

Was he Filipino because the Pena's are as Monica. Oh, she's not home yet. She's she hasn't got back yet. She to go pick up that backpack. That's right. That's a whole, we had a whole adventure inside before we started getting inside baseball there. I love inside baseball. So thank you. Robert, do you have any more mind blows or fun facts? Can I roll into your mailing it in? Uh, but they're on strike. You can't mail it in the phone. It is you can phone it in that accident. They're getting fucked. Those guys, I think the post. Oh, they You're mailing it in but they're on strike you can't mail it in

They're getting fucked those guys I think the post Oh, they are for sure they are yeah good luck with that by the way This is my bit when it comes to strikes like where do they get the oil bins from and where do this? Where do the skids come from like every time there's a strike? There's also an oil bins that can have and then ever there's fires in there Well, they understand they used to be called skids and other pallets, but there were skids. Well, yeah, I worked at a grocery store for five years and we called them skids. Skids, right. You don't call them skids in with their pallets. We've evolved.

Where do they get them? Wait, we're offensive to people on Skid Row. It's true. Down on Skid Row. By the way, that's a great band. No, I was going to say Skid Row is a great song from Little Shop of Horrors. Oh, right. OK, that was Annie for a minute. I like the horrors because it's all right right now. Horrors. Steve Martin. I can't

say where this little house in Texas. Yes. Steve Martin does. You'll be a dad. So first of all, you say Steve Martin. It's Steve Martin. I've been nailing the key. Are you been nailing a song? I know it's your jam. It's from the year of my birth My god, it's gonna be good Bob surprised to hear it. He sent it to me yesterday. I Said this to you He's drunk Rob driving right no Like I'd make him sleep around the corner here.

Ahhhh! Feeling festive now. This is my selection. Fucking you're... I'm sober. I'm only... into one burst. One burst. Someone has to stay sober around here. Listen, she has the voice of an angel.

Shut up everybody. She just got an email. That's cool. Go Richard. It's Richard. So cool. I gotta sit up there. I'm gonna be good for goodness sake. You better watch out. You better not cry. Bob, we know how this song goes.

Very beautiful version, but tell us what were the... Okay, so here's the deal. This is The Carpenters. That's Karen Carpenter. This was originally done... So I cannot talk about Christmas music without talking about The Carpenter's Christmas Portrait, which was released actually in like 78 originally, I think. But this was actually released in...

Hang on, I want to make sure that was the right... Yeah. So this was actually released in hang on I want to make sure those the right yeah so this was actually released year my birth 74 yeah and here's the deal about what I find interesting about this is this was a hit it was a it was a it was a 45 like it was a single but now and this would caught my eye because I just might maintain Christmas portrait is the greatest Christmas album ever written or ever produced. Richard did an amazing job with Karen. But there's actually a new completely produced by Richard Carpenter. It's called Christmas Once More with the Carpenters, including this version, which was not on Christmas Portrait. No, this was not. No, there is a Santa Claus coming to town on a Christmas portrait.

If you'd like to hear it, this is what it sounded like. It was more. It's only a minute and a half. It's like part of a medley. This medley was amazing. Yes. So this is. This is Christmas to me right here, which is December, right? I think so. So you better watch out, you better not cry, and the call I'm telling you about, Santa Claus is coming to you.

Very different. Very different. Yeah. It sounds like the Laurie Bauer singers or something. Yeah, yeah. It's very old school throwback. It's like malls. Yeah.

Or the Billy Band, the Billy Band. The Andrew Sisters. The Sleepy One, I'm Sleeping, the Billy Band. The Andrew Sisters. There's there's Karen. Hell of a drummer, right, Bobby? Hell of a drummer. Goodness sake. We did that in a toast. Yes, we have.

So. So that's the original one from Christmas Portrait. I have a Christmas portrait on vinyl. I had it on cassette. My dad introduced it to me and it's just it is my that is Christmas to me is a Christmas portrait on vinyl. I had it on cassette. My dad introduced it to me and it's just, it is my dad is Christmas to me is, is a Christmas portrait. That first version is beautiful though. I don't think I've ever heard it before either. So I literally, it came up just this weekend on my Spotify. Okay.

So you have nostalgia because this is the, this is what you would hear at Christmas time as a kid. A Christmas portrait is my kid, my Christmas album for sure. And then the last few days I've started watching with my kids because we decorated our house on the weekend. We watched like is my Christmas album, for sure. And in the last few days, I've started watching with my kids, because we decorated our house on the weekend. We watched like Mickey's Christmas Carol, which came out in 82. Of course you did.

I love that version. I love that version too, with Scrooge McDuck. I like the Muppet Christmas film too. We watch it every year too. Yeah, so I watched that. I like the Muppet ones too. The Muppet one's very good as well. And then we watched the original Grinch and stuff. For me,

her voice, I mean, I've gotten in, her voice for me was Christmas and I've learned a whole bunch more. I actually really love that 70s gold sound. I love that pop sound and her, I'm just, I think she's just, might be one of the best female vocalists ever. She's just so perfect. I won't read you Canada Kev's review. Canada Kev can go fuck himself. Sorry, hang on, let me see what he said. She's one of my kind. I'll read it to you, okay.

Syrupy Schmaltz with a good voice. You know what, it's syrupy, sure, it's Christmas. Why wouldn't it be syrupy? Gotta have some Schmaltz, right? Get us some maple syrup in Christmas. Sorry Canada Kev, you don't have to go fuck yourself. Unless you want to. I'm for, I'm gonna have my hand on it.

It's all about body autonomy. If Canada Kev wants to fuck himself, he can fuck himself. You know what? Yeah, and respect your body because you don't want to end up like Karen Carpenter. No, exactly. If, it really is the sound of the seventies though. I was gonna put a joke about,

Yeah, I know you were. I'm not gonna touch that one actually because that's a mental illness. No, that's what, I was not to put a joke about, you know, I know you were, I'm not going to touch that one actually, because that's a, uh, mental illness. No, that's what I was not joking when I said, respect your body because you know what? You're beautiful. No matter what you look like, think about her. She was beautiful. That's a disease. You don't see yourself the way others see you. That's a disease. I know we're already long. I'm going to, I, I pissed off the indie listeners to this week. Tell us how you tell you, it's always a good idea

when you're new to a station. Well, I pushed it. I pushed it a little bit and I got a bunch of complaints. Okay. What can you just tell us a bit more detail? What do you just quickly? So, so no, I just did, I did take 21 minutes. Okay. Here we go. Here's the break. I did it literally come off the end of a song. I was like, look, I said filling in for Lana and Lana is like the nicest human being. Lana Gay, Lana Gay. So I like, she was literally, she helped me pick out my engagement ring for my wife. Like that's a Lana and I was close to Lana Gay. Yes, we were super close and she's one of the nice human beings I know. And her mom licked the asshole of a pig on humble and friend.

No, you're now you're mixing things up. But that story then get back to your story. I don't know whose mother like, no, a guy. Lana Gay's, Lana Gay was bean girl. She sat in a tub of beans. Okay. My poly. That's how I back to your story. I don't know whose mother like, no, a guy. It wasn't Lana Gay's? No, Lana Gay was Bean Girl. She sat in a tub of beans. Okay, my apologies. That's how I got to know her. Okay, this is the, yeah, really tough one.

Why are you talking about her mom, man? That's weird. Well, I thought that was the story. No, her mother had nothing. That's weird. Why would you even forget somebody? I don't know Lana Gay's mom. I've never met her.

Who's her mother? Who's your mother? Anyways, that's weird. That's how. Doing the Jim Gaffigan thing now. Yes. That's weird. So I said, look, I pre-affigan thing. Yes, weird. Um, so I, I said, look, I preamble the story with like, look, here's the deal. I am not as

nice as Lana. I try to be nice, but I have dark thoughts. So before I do this next story, I'm going to preamble this with like, this is a dark thought. So I do this. So as I said, this could be dark. Uh, a gentleman in Edmonton, Alberta died on stage as an actor. He's an actor. He's a theater actor and he died on stage last week. Oh right, in the Christmas Carol. Yes.

Did you hear the break? No. Oh, so I did the story. No, but I heard the story. So I did the story. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, this guy was on stage. He's an actor in a Christmas Carol and he died.

I said, but this was last week. So you know what? This is just teach you a lesson. You do Christmas stuff too early. You might die. That was it. That was my joke. That's a good joke. I thought it was an okay joke. Like it was a great joke, but it's, it's not offensive. Oh, so this one woman called me up and said, I, and I played the call. I was surprised I didn't get in for this. I played the call. She was like,

I'd expect that kind of shit from a rock jock. That's what she said. I played the call like with the shit. Oh, we play shit on the air. All that's Jesse and Jean. Yeah, I got it. I thought of just I was excited to have Jesse and Jean on Toronto Mike, but they were both in BC, but Jean who wouldn't come to team Alex seventeen because of something Larry Fedorik said about him on Facebook. That's a true story. I deal could it was telling that story, but Fedorik said about him on Facebook. That's a true story. Oh my God.

Okay, Deal Kudu was telling that story. But Gene took the time to get a USB mic and get in a quiet room, okay? So he would be like the towel guy. What's his name? Paul Bellini, okay? Meanwhile, Jesse was like barking into some laptop. He sounded like he was in the washroom or something.

The audio, I was so mad. Oh, the show they were doing? Yeah. And I was thinking of jeans audio with Scott Thompson because Scott Thompson audio is so bad on my podcast is it so bad it's terrible it's horrible I'm gonna try to fix it yeah well it's not your fault because I know exactly know exactly how you feel because you're excited to have this guest I just want to get it out there time to have a decent fucking

connection and you're battling like so Scott Thompson sounded like Jesse Dillon sounded on Toronto mine so what does this have to do with what my? Pissing people off that gene Jesse and gene would do shock jock material. Yes. Oh good connection. I got it Anyways, come on. You're drunk. I am. Yes, I am So I said so I I what I recorded this phone call with this woman who said I said, you know What I appreciate that but I did preamble it and saying that it was a dark thought and And also, I'll be honest, I wouldn't have done the story if it was in Toronto because his family members could have been listening. And I and and she said, you know what?

Fine. And I kind of want her back. And by the end, it was a humbug. I played the call, but I played the call in the air and then the phones light up. And so the phones light up and it's all about engagement. Oh, phones light up and they're just like, yeah, you're a fucking asshole. Oh, yeah, just like you deserve to be fired. Really? Yes Yes, Canada Kev called in it Yeah, I deserve to be fired and then a couple a couple people commented on Instagram and I was like wow I was like I understand that it was dark

But you know in a world where like comedians like Anthony Jessel Nick and like so fun He would do like, yeah. So the guy got back to me and I never did. I stopped it. I didn't want to get into a flame war. I stopped engaging with him. And this is like really inside for anybody, but I literally was like, you know what? So he literally said, he goes, Anthony Jessel Nick is a comedian who's known for doing that. You're not a comedian. You're not funny. So you can't do that.

So I said in my head and I didn't respond, I just said, thanks for doing that. You're not a comedian, you're not funny, so you can't do that. So I said in my head, and I didn't respond, I just said thanks for the feedback, thanks for listening. I said, so by your rationale, if I did it more it would be okay? Because Anthony Jesselnik does it all the fucking time. His point is wrong, but when you play an Anthony Jesselnik Netflix special, you go to one of his shows,

you're sort of, there's a social contract, you're opting in to hear dead babies yes exactly when you're listening to indie 88 in your car when you're shopping at sure way gardens or whatever you haven't opted in to hear that joke but if the guy who's on the air says hey something that's coming up is gonna be could offend you sure get the fuck out go to 102.1 where you come back in five minutes. Exactly. I gave them that option. Anyways, I love it.

No, I still have a job envelope. You're pushing the envelope. Unlike our employees who are getting fucked. Somebody called me. Somebody texted and said that I am the new indie 88 Howard Stern in a good way. Yeah. And I was like, I'll take that. Oh, every day.

Was that Mark Weisblat? I don't know. I remember he went. He's been listening. He told also he told Howard Stern, there were two guys in Toronto trying to be Howard Stern. And who were those two guys, Bob? I think we have a relationship with them.

One Humble and one Fred. And Humble and Fred have never forgotten. So they, back when I used to have Mark Weisblatt on the time, all the time, they hated it. And then anyways, the rest is history. I'm gonna kick out my first December jam. You ready, buddy? I didn't need to tell that whole story, sorry.

I like that story. It took me less than 21 minutes. Yeah, there you go. So it's fine with me, but I'm gonna kick out a December jam here, if you don't mind. I hear some Christmas bells. I should have used these bells. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. One DMC. One DMC It was December 24th when Hollis had the dark Went I see the man chillin' with his dog in the park I had frozen berries, stony with my heart full of fear Looked at his dog, oh my god, a ill reindeer I bent, I was ill and called the man at a beer Had a bag full of goody, 12 o'clock, eight nits So I turned my head a second and the man was gone Footy muckers dropped his water, smacked dead on the lawns

I picked the wallet up and then I took a pause Took out the license and it called said Santa Claus I think I won't speak for both of you, but I'm going to guess we all owned a copy of a very special Christmas from 1987. Number one. Volume number one. Yeah, volume one. The very first one. The very first one here. Because this song was on that.

And another song on this very same compilation that I definitely owned is going to be kicked out later in this program. That's a teaser. And it's not getting kicked out by me. That's an additional teaser. There you go. Okay. So Bill Adler was putting together this compilation, A Very Special Christmas in 87, and all the

proceeds were going to go to the Special Olympics. That's a wonderful charity. Run DMC said, no way Jose, just like the police said, no way Jose, to Prince, okay? But somebody, I think it was the very same Bill Adler, gave them this idea for Christmas and Hollis, and then they changed their minds and they agreed that they would put something on this album here, okay? So, Rick Rubin produced this track, of course, that you're listening to right now. The title refers to Hollis, Queens,

as the neighborhood in which they grew up. How far away from you? I was just gonna go to Google Maps and figure it out. Do you know how far it is? Can you do that quick? Find out how long it would take you to walk to Hollis. Okay. So this, obviously, so if you don't recognize the very special Christmas,

it's the Keith Haring image with the arms and the baby, right? And I actually, so I've been to Keith Haring's, went back in New York City when he had the pop shop. His estate still had the pop shop in New York City. And I also saw DMC play at the AGO in 2017 as part of one of their. Are you going to be at the AGO on Friday? I might be there on Wednesday for the media preview. Not the opening of the hip hop show.

Jim Shedden. Yeah, it was. He was at TMX 17. Yeah. But I'm going to be there with Cam Gordon to see Mishimi. No, I know. Yeah. So Friday night's the big opening of the hip hop show. Which, again, my wife's the director of exhibitions at the AGO. She works with Jim Shedden very closely and it's it's a pretty great show. From what I hear, I was very excited to meet Jim for the first time. Jim's a great guy. I've only met him a couple of times myself.

Ready for a mind. Really smirk. I am Shedden hat currently has a podcast with Alan's wife. I'm listening to that tomorrow on my drive home. Does he really? Yeah. Do you know he's friends with Warner Music? Kane.

Steve Kane. Steve Kane. Him and Steve Kane had a zine in the 70s and 80s. That's why I had him on. We talked about the zines. Yeah. So, and that was Steve Kane, who was the president of Warner Music Canada for years.

Steve Kane. And you've had Steve Kane on, who is one of the smartest minds in race. Super cool guy. Like were you at Warner? Yes, and I think I knew him. You would have known of him, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he commented on my Facebook yesterday,

saying he wanted to go to the Gary Topp thing. And he was seeing a photo with me and you. I said, you were stalking me, you and Tyler Campbell. Okay, so what's that sample from? Do you guys know the sample? Well, I don't. No, I don't. I said you were stalking me. You and Tyler Campbell. Okay. So that, what's that sample from? Do you guys know the sample? Well, I don't know. I like it already. It's gotta be a stacks record.

Oh, I chatted with Rob Bowman yesterday. Me too. I met him. Oh, you sound good. And he agreed to come back. Good. I'm sorry, this is a Santa song as well? Yeah. Yeah. That's why they sampled it. I live 17 minutes from Hollis Green. Backdoor Santa? I'm sorry, this is a Santa song as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why they sampled it. They call me back to the Santa

I live 17 minutes from Hollis Green. Backdoor Santa? It's called Backdoor Santa, like Clarence Carter. Clarence Carter strokin'! Oh, I love Clarence Carter! I stroked it to the east, I stroked it to the west, I stroked it to the woman I love the best. Oh, I love this.

Sexy Jans from 1968, wow. Did not know this song. I gotta... It's gonna make the DJ set in December. Do you have any DJ sets coming up? I have no gigs. I actually, I jokingly said on the air the other day, hey, if you need anybody on New Year's Eve, let me know.

I'll be overpriced just like everybody else. It's great, right? It's this fucking sound. It's great, right? It's great at a Christmas party. Do you know Clarence? Do you know Stroken by Clarence? Maybe. Oh.

Do you know Rob? No. Clarence Cubs, we're both babies. Oh shit! Clarence Cubs. It's a stacked record though, right? I am, you know what? I don't care what the next theme is.

I am, I am, it doesn't matter. I'm doing Stroken by Clarence Carter. We know you'll be stroking during the next toast, okay? Situation normal. Right. It's January, right? It's my birthday in January, so. How close are you to Big Five-O?

I'll be 49 in January. Okay, one more to go. Will we still be doing toast when he turns 50? We were just joking. My daughter turned 16 and I turned 50 in the same year so I can almost top that because My daughter turned 20 the year I turned 50 and my son turned 10 So there's a 50 and a 20 and a 10 at the same year My wife and I so my wife and I were married in 05

First kid in 10 second kid in 15. Wow. I thought I was going to die in 20. Just for fun. That was great. I didn't even know that. I won't spend too much time on this because Bob hates it when I do this. Whatever.

It's your show, man. Hey, man, I'm five drinks in now. I'm fine. I don't know how I'm getting home. Ha ha ha ha. Christmas Chips, tips and shiz. Falling everyday. They say Santa knows who's been being naughty at night. Doesn't this sound like it should be Stu fucking Stone? Yeah.

I was gonna say, um, Rascals? Rascals? Is that Toronto? Uh, Mad Child, you remember? I'm working on getting Socrates in the basement now. Oh cool. Okay, so basically a song that sampled Christmas and Hollis by Run DMC.

Rob, I'll bring it down. Any words to say before your second jam? And I'm really in the spirit now. Bob's on to P2. We're going to count the P's. No, I think he's plugging in his phone. Oh no, he's a, he did. P2 was a French dog actually. Any words before your second jam? It'll be a nice contrast to what you're playing right now. Rob's not a hip hop guy. It's fine. It's okay. And let's play this. Carpenters were a bit of a.

Autumn colors have gone. Birds fled south with their song. Snowflakes cover the earth quietly. Night extends through the hours, coolly lit by the stars. The pulse of life slows silently. Cuddle up in a cozy nook, with a warm drink and a book, within a winter symphony. It sounds like Octopus' Garden, kinda.

Like it's a fetal ass. It's a definitely a de drink and a book Within a winter symphony How is this not from a musical? It's really Beatles-esque But without the good vocalists Snowflake fantasy

Warm is my heart, but I can't see Where the sun shines, there's a song to be mine Okay, who is the vocalist Brian Wilson? That's Brian Wilson. This is Brian. This is sort of a dark period for Brian This is mid 70s Is he lying in bed or either in bed or in the sandbox? I'm not sure Drop downtown in the rain What is this? It was an unreleased song so he recorded it. I can't imagine why. I know. Sorry. It's not a Christmas compilation It's not a terrible song. It's just not up to beach boys standards. The production's really weird. It's like flat. It's a little dry. Yeah. Dry is very good. Sounds like Ringo Starr singing a Beatles song. No, Ringo sings better than this.

Like it's weird. Brian Wilson can sing. This is weird. Sorry, we keep interrupting you. He's saying God only knows? No, that's his brother, Carl. No, no, he didn't do that. He wrote it, but Carl sang it. So it was released in 77. The record, and it was going to be a Christmas record that the record company rejected. Very good. This is very Beatles. Yeah. Yeah. He wrote it, but Carl sang it. So it was released in 77, the record. And it was going to be a Christmas record that the record company rejected. Very good. Very Beatles. Listen. No, a hundred percent. So what year is this, Rom? 77. It wasn't released until 98. So it's on the, it's on an album called Ultimate Christmas. So it was just where they gathered all their Christmas music together. So these were sitting since from 77 to 88 sitting in like just in a ball, like in a ball on these big thick tapes. And nobody knew they were there. Somebody found them

and like, Yeah, they made the album and the record company rejected. So it was probably just sitting there and they're like, let's get all the Christmas music we can. Let's put it all together. So was it the only Brian Wilson? was it a whole Brian Wilson album? It's all Beach Boys. Little St. Nick, all the good ones, everything. And then this too. And this.

All the good ones and this. And this, yeah. Did you know about it before this assignment? No, I mean, I knew the Christmas compilation, but I wanted to get something with the actual word winter in it. Yeah. I don't know, so. No, no. It's interesting.

It's still okay, yeah. He, I mean, his mother-in-law, was it his mother-in-law? Sister-in So no, no, it's interesting. It's still okay. Yeah. He, I mean, yeah, his mother and was it his mother-in-law sister-in-law wrote the lyrics actually. He often didn't. He often, he often co-wrote songs with lyricists, which I always found interesting because some of his most famous songs were songs that he only wrote the music for, which is weird, but his sister-in-law wrote the lyrics for this song, but he sort of liked these real simplistic kind of storytelling things, which is why it sounds like a musical sort of thing. Yeah, it really does. As a musician, I think I've asked you this before, you've mostly

like, you're, you, you write music. Are there any songs like spoons or honeymoon sweet songs or that we would know that you did lyrics for? Not completely. I contributed some honeymoon sweet lyrics. You did? Yeah. Like cause Johnny and Derry and I were like writing songs together in the room and there were points where we were like trying to find the right lyrics. So you're just kind of like banging stuff out. You got a melody and they're going like, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, oh, man, what about blah, blah, bleep?

Yes. Okay. And like specific lines and songs, you know, like, really between the three of us, it was just sort of like a real collaboration. Oh, lest we forget, the opening line was originally, cold winter nights. That's right. Right? That's a true story. And then some guy, I don't remember,

I can't remember anymore, they told me this story, but they changed it to, hot summer nights. Well, Pearl Jam's song Daughter was originally Brother. The lyrics were originally Brother. Bring the heat. Yeah, yeah, so it's amazing. I find that amazing when like, you have an entirely, like if you're a lyricist

These guys always have they have the little booklets of like all that wasn't yesterday scrambled eggs scrambled eggs Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, but it was like a placeholder. I love people who can make music I'm always amazed. Oh guys pretty good at it last year. There was an exhibit soft bees auction house They they sold like everything, the content. Is that how you say it, Soft Bees? No, it's Sotheby's. I've seen that sign, I've always said it as Sotheby's. It's Sotheby's.

All right, it's Sotheby's. They did a whole thing. Finally I was right about it. They sold the whole content to Freddie Mercury's house, and they had these lyric sheets like of him working out Bohemian Rhapsody, and like you see the scribble there. And originally it was,

daddy, I just killed a man. Yeah, exactly. But it's fascinating, it is fascinating to see like the work in progress right because the thing we know you assume it was always that way that was blown that way yeah yeah it's that's in Pearl Jam in Pro Jam 25 and there's a whole there's there's footage of them in the back of the truck I just go because they're my favorite by the way Pearl Jam this week Pearl Jam North American tour will be announced oh and if you're not a member of the 10 club

You won't get early access. So I would if you're joining anyways, but yeah, it was originally It was that stone and eddie and uh, it was stone's uh riff and eddie had brother Originally was instead of daughter. It was a different thing. Anyway, but yeah, oh, so yeah, it's that's weird So this was him and his sister is a different pearl jam named br song name. They have another song called brother as well. Yeah. Well, good thing they changed the other brother. Which was never a single. No, but it's great. Was it on lost dogs?

Yeah. No, it's not on lost dogs. I think it is. It might be, right? I'm not, you know what? I think it is. Yes. We're tied up now. One, one. Okay. Rob, that was interesting. When did you, so you said you discovered that song in 98?

No, it was released in 98. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, I- No, nobody knew it. It was on a shelf. Oh, you just discovered it last week. Yeah. Yeah That's a weird way to do this game. Yeah to me when we all these gems you're you go into your heart your mind Yeah, the song you can't just stuff just you know, no Winter song But also though I think Like for me the Carpenter's thing happened. But also though, I think finally this weekend, for me the Carpenter's thing happened this weekend.

Did you just say weekend? You wanna tease this next jam? The weekend? I don't play the weekend. Oh, oh, the vampire weekend I do. Oh. Because he's drunk Rob. There's a lot of winter songs though.

He's gonna be two steps behind me for the rest of the show. We could do winter every year. Take two steps forward, you take two steps back. Bruce Springsteen. MC Paul Abdul. Okay, but also forward. You take two steps back. Bruce Springsteen, MC, uh, cat, uh, Paula Abdul. Okay. But also one step forward, two steps back. That's a Bruce, the album, after born, the opposite track, you know, where she saw the fucking where she

raps Paula Abdul live this. I know I would have gone there. I would have gone if I wasn't out of town. I would have saw that on the video screen. And then I'm scat cat. Really? Yeah. Where did you see her? The bud stage opening for the New Kids on the Block. Which by the way I saw in 1990 at Sky Dome with Heavy D and the boys. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.

Oh everybody's dead on that show. I like that song he did of the Michael Jackson album, Slam, right, was it? Jam, jam, jam, sorry. Jam, not Slam. And in the video, And Jordan! It was Michael Jordan.

And Jordan! It was a cool video. Michael Jordan slam and ever and Evie D. And then what was that film? Space Jam. Yeah, Space Jam. Yeah, Space Jam. OK, we're like way off. I'm drunk and I'm fucking top.

I tried to see you up by saying you said weekend and I was teeing you up. But I thought you might have words to say. No. So here's my my words to say. This is the second toast in a row where I have chosen a song from this very album, which by the way is my favorite album of this year. Okay. Who's the one beside? Who builds the future? Do they care why? I know you're tired of trying Listen clearly You don't have to try

Can't become The eight act you're born Finished first And the next one was young Too old for time, you're too young to live alone Sifting through centuries for moments of your own moments of it all. Is that Rob? Bruce? I wish it was.

Rob Bruce. I would love that. These guys are so good. How good is this? Amazing. I need to listen to this whole album. You need to listen to this album. It's Only God was above us is the name of the album.

This is Vampire Weekend. They released that this year. So first time I saw them this summer was at Bud bud stage and it was the best show I saw here I only I didn't see a lot of shows this year, but I do because you know, I was unemployed Than Paul Avdol. Yeah. No, you're right might not have been songs called Capricorn as a Capricorn which I am Capricorn starts in December you and Jesus. Yeah. Yeah Capricorn start and it's got a vibe

But that's got a wintery vibe to me. And here's the thing. These guys are from Cape Cod. And if like Cape Cod in the winter is so bleak, it's so like, like almost like, like not desert like, but a tundra like, like it it's just like, it's, it's like going up to Sobble beach on the shores of Lake Huron or whatever. And this song just kind of captures it. It's got a great vibe to it. Yes. And again, we were talking about beautiful music, beautiful noise. These guys live, they make some beautiful noise. And

yeah. So when we talked December winter j jams this came to mind this year for me Like listen to this part It's just like a couple Beatles like So like this is high Beatles, you know, Beatles on Beatles on acid. George Martin on production. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. Good in the cans. And someone

and obviously last time we got together last time was with Mary Boone was the song from the same very same album. Right. This is honestly one of my favorite, like my favorite album of the year. It is, might be in my top 15 of favorite albums ever. It's so, maybe even 10. It's so good. Hey, do you need another beer? How much longer are we going? I got half left. Well, we got got a few gems. I'm fine right now. Thank you. Let me know. I will. Don't you worry.

This will be five. Yeah, three at the bar. Five. This will be number five. I can't do five. What about you, Rob? No, I wouldn't do five. Well, you're driving. Well, you know what?

I can. I don't have to work tomorrow. I have to get up and help my kids get off to school and then I can go back to bed. Yeah. Like, I'm going to hop on that Go train. And thank God they have the bathrooms on them. Right. Hey, I love this. The year that you found.

I love the sound. Roll right into mine. Yeah, do it. The finish line. And the next one was young. Too old, down young. Too young, too down alone. There you go. I didn't know the vampire weekend song was going to just abruptly end like that.

I believe that's called a cold ending we call it in the biz. Caught me off guard, okay? While I looked around all my possibilities I was so hard to please But look around, these are brown And the sky is a hazy shade of winter. Feel the salvation on me. I just realized I should have done an Edgar Wintersong.

I'm just trying to find the right side. I'm taking you back to the past. What you got planned? Carry your cup in your hand. All right. Look around, these are brown. I'll be your cup in your hand. All right. Take a look around. He's a brown eye. And the sky is a hazy shade of winter.

So this song reminds me of your Steve Miller band song, Mr. Proust. And I'll explain why in a moment. But let me just tell the good people, this is A Hazy Shade of Winter by Simon and Garfunkel from 1966. That's their original. This is theirs. Yeah, but Paul Simon wrote this. Paul Simon wrote this.

Cause like, what are the other versions of this? You're gonna play one in a minute. I'm gonna play one in a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that. I don't think I, oh yeah. But this was on Bookends, which is their 1968 album. And it peaked at number thirteen on the billboard hot one

hundred so much. That's why when I was listening to that steve miller band, what's it called winter winter time winter time? It sounded like it was a response to another song. So let's see if I can do this. Hold on here. Here we go. Train wreck coming Here we go. Train wreck coming. My monger and rhyme. I look around.

Leaves are brown now. Leaves are brown. And the sky. Is a hazy shade in the winter. Look around. Leaves are brown. There's a patch of snow on the ground. Look around.

Leaves are brown. There's a patch of snow on the ground. Look around. Le leaves are brown. There's a patch of snow on the ground. Look around, leaves are brown. There's a patch of snow on the ground. All the leaves are brown. All the leaves are brown. The left, right this is crazy good. There's a reason for that though, because it was recorded without the vocals in a different version and they just used that as the backing track. But without a doubt, right, that Simon, Paul Simon penned Song is a response to this

All the leaves are brown and the sky was gray Except all the leaves are brown and the sky was a hazy shade of winter Forced gump soundtrack Great fucking song, but okay, so let's go back to hazy shade of winter Put the guitar riff on it ding ding ding is like you can hear. Yeah. It's the guitar riff that I find really interesting in it What's Christmas bells I'll say you too. Yeah that it needs more reverb to be the edge. Yeah, just like Angles right. Yeah

Sorry to ruin the surprise. This is my intro to this song me too. Really? You didn't know it? Oh, I knew this. Yeah. Fucking great, right? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da Yeah. Same album? Has Walk Like an Egyptian? No. I don't think so, yeah. No? No. That drum is crazy. Yeah. Fucking give you 50 bucks right now if you can tell me what album, what soundtrack, sorry,

what movie soundtrack did this song appear on? Oh, give me the year. By the way, this song goes to number two on the Billboard Hot 100. Bigger hit than the original. Bigger, yeah. Give me the year. 1987. 87. Beverly Hills Cop 2?

Nope. No. You have a guess, Rob Pr 2? Nope. Nope. You have a guess Rob Pruss? Nope. Okay, the reason I'm so confident you won't get it. The movie Less Than Zero. Oh! Based on the book by fucking, who did Less Than Zero is crazy dark book and I've never

seen the movie. It's such a great version of the song. Yeah. Okay. Andy Pandy wants the 50 bucks but sorry Andy you have to be in the room to get the 50 bucks. Lesson Zero. Andy was at the 1990 New Kids concert with you. Nice.

I was on the floor of the Sky Dome. I had floors. What is that a cowbell? It's a cowbell right there. Fucking amazing. Look up Lesson Zero the book. floors. What is that a cowbell? It's a cowbell right there. Yup. Fucking amazing. Look up Less Than Zero, the book. Add this to the list of covers I like better than the original.

Obviously Simon and Garfunkel or Simon and Garfunkel. But this version rocks. This cover is fucking amazing. Ready, Sinelis? Yes. Less Than Zero, the book is insane. It's one of the darkest books I've ever read in my life. I loved it.

Oh, I got to watch this movie. Susanna Hoffs. Yes, Susanna Hoffs. Explain. I'm going to quote her, okay? She's still a babe. Who didn't have a crush on Susanna Hoffs? Produces a ton of great music too. Oh, geez. Okay. I'm listening to K-Earth 101, an oldie station. I'm alone in this dark room and all I had was the radio. Hazy shade of winter came on one day. I thought I wasn't a Simon and Garfunkel aficionado, but I somehow had missed that bad ass folk rock song of theirs. I ran to our band rehearsal that night and was like, we have to cover this song. Wow. That's cool. And the producer is?

And the producer is, go ahead Rob, I set you up. Rick Rubin. Of course. Yeah. All of everything is. I didn't know that until just now. So I have Rick Rubin's latest book about creativity. I love it, I've been listening to the audio book.

Yeah, so I kind of go in and out of it. Like it's one of those things to read a couple pages here and there. Cause it's really stream of consciousness on his part too and I have a friend of mine who I really really respect and he's a music guy's a jazz guy he actually like went to York University as a saxophonist and he loves music he loves he's Clarence Clemens that's right it's Clarence Clemens is ghost and I talk no my good friend David Allard and he he doesn't buy into the

Rick Rubin kind of like lore because Rick Rubin's not he just lets you do your own thing because Rick Rubin does vibe yes yeah yes he doesn't know anything about music he doesn't know he doesn't he just knows what sounds good and that's what I'm like he doesn't buy into it and for me as a guy who has never I don't know any but I know it sounds good yeah I think I'm a good DJ and I think I'm a good radio person based just on it's almost because it's instinct almost right. So I'm like him and I've had some drunken arguments

about like, I'm like, yeah, you don't like just because you know, he let Johnny cash turn hurt into what it was or that like, yeah, he didn't, he doesn't know the technical. He's got great. He, you have to have great engineers and you have to have great people around you, but it doesn't mean that if you're in charge at the end of it all, he didn't he doesn't know the technical he's got great He you have to have great engineers and you have to have great people around you But it doesn't mean that if you're in charge at the end of it all it doesn't I don't think it takes away from his creativity No, just my opinion you've worked with producers like yeah Tell me who like tell me how a producer can change a song for you every producer is different Yeah, but like have you worked with people who aren't particularly according to Hoyle musicians? Yeah, well Roger's now well Niles a musician musician musician, but like me Nile. Yeah, yeah. Nile Rodgers. Nile, well, Nile's a musician.

He's a musician, musician. But like Nile, yeah, Nile can play. He can play, but he- Rick Rubin can't play. No, but I think that he's also being a little bit, what's the word when you- Humble? He's being a little humble about it.

You think he's being humble, yeah. For sure. Okay. Because he's been around since the 80s Enough about humble and prayer. with the Beastie Boys, right? Right, yeah, no, no. Mixing in his college dorm. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he's had experience- So he knows more than what he says he knows. But what he wants to portray is the idea of trusting your instincts and not thinking there's a real formula, which there's not. There's not. So he, but like he did an interview with this guy,

Rick Beato, which I need to listen to. Oh, the Rick Beato one, yeah, yeah, that's great. It's two and a half hours, but I haven't listened to it yet. I'm gonna listen probably to that also. Yeah, Rick Beato's great. Yeah, but I think that Rick Rubin also just wants to like have people trust their instincts and not overthink the process.

It's kind of the whole point of the book, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't think it takes, yeah, that's interesting. Brian Nino does a similar thing. Brian Nino would be the first guy to tell you that he's not really a musician, but he played keyboards with Roxy Music. He played synth on some of the U2 albums he produced. But but at the same time he trusts just being a part of the process

I think it's possible and I've never done it, but I think it's possible to not necessarily Well, I mean you look at you know when Pharrell got called up on the stand right went for the whole The blurred lines thing and he couldn't tell you about a like a he couldn't tell you about a scale or anything He just he knows how to play it, but he doesn't know the theory of it. I think if you're passionate enough about it or you, like I know, I know what makes a hit for the radio. I can tell you what makes a hit for, you can play something for me.

I'm like, that's not gonna get played on the radio. But the difference, so, but the thing is like, you then have to put yourself into the environment where other people will trust you, even without your, with your lack of expertise as a musician. Right, quote unquote, yeah. So Rick Rubin can say till the end of time, like with your lack of expertise as a musician. So Rick Rubin can say till the end of time, yeah, I'm not a musician,

I don't have any technical expertise, but people wanna put him in the room because they trust him because he did this thing with Johnny Cash. He did this thing with these people. Because he made 99 problems and a bitch, he won. All the things he made, the variety. He made the Hay-She-Shaded Winter with the Bengals,

which is crazy. I don't think I knew that, but it's just super interesting that you can have that wide range of music like George Martin with the Beatles. Right. He they trusted him. But he had only done BBC like orchestral stuff, you know, I know we're going we're lost. Can you give me an example of a time that you were with a band and you're good when in the studio, you thought you had a song and then the producer changed it for the better? Can you think of anything? Or like the- Almost every time. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause we trust the collaboration. Every producer brings something different to it as well. Almost every time. Oh yeah. Oh wow. For sure. For sure.

That's amazing. I mean, at the same time, there would be times where you would trust a producer. I wouldn't say it made it for the worse, but if you trust a producer and they do a thing that you're like, well, maybe we wouldn't have done that. Who produced romantic traffic? Now Rogers.

Okay. Can I hear a demo? That's insane. Do you guys have a copy of a demo? I'm sure there's somewhere. I have a good demo of Telling Lies, which was the other song he produced. Oh, let's do that, yeah. Oh, my Google.

Your Google song. Did we say the G word? What did you say? I don't know. What is happening? I'm playing. Your phone is going. Oh, I said, can I hear a demo?

Oh. Yeah, my phone's can I hear a demo? Oh. Yeah, my phone's gonna be playing. That's so funny. It's playing cool G rap. It's a demo. That's funny. I didn't say the G word. No.

I guess it's not supposed to answer me. I say the G word. Her robot is listening. By the way, we can have all other episode. Our phones are totally fucking listening to us all the time. They are listening. I had a whole conversation with somebody that I'd never Googled anything and it came up in my Facebook

ads. The next moment I got back on. Yes, they're always listening, but they're not supposed to answer you until you say the G word. This guy here. Okay, so thank you. All very interesting. Thank you for the demo and I'll play it and I'll hear it. I just, I love the process. It's so crazy. Rob, this is your final jam. Everybody here has one jam left. I'm thoroughly sorry. And it's interesting.

We're getting, we're getting our monthly toast. It's our last. Yeah, this is it. This is the last for 24. Yeah. Like it's, it's December 2nd, right? Are we going to kiss at midnight? We'll be here till midnight.

Okay. Rob set up this final jam, which I heard performed live this very calendar year. Did he perform it? Yeah. Well, this is just another one. Like it's a winter slash holiday song that's sort of timeless.

There's a thousand versions. I just picked one that- Let me set the scene for you. Oh, here. It's a cold December night. It's Christmas season. Is this a single? It kinda looks like a Macho Man a bit, right? Oh yeah, it's a cold December night. Eddie Vedder. It's like a macho man a bit, right?

Yeah, he's a cold. Eddie Vedder does an impression of him too. This is the 70s, right? 78, 78. It's snowing. Yeah, it's snowing. Snow, you've been good. I actually saw the

tip. I saw the his last his last yeah This is the same Cut that out, but this is a single. Yeah, this is on the 1987 album. I think that's here It's the intro Yeah, this is it for sure. Yeah, this is the one that's on that yes Clarence Clements is going to do the deep voice. You been good? I don't know. I don't hear you.

You better be good for goodness sake. You better watch out. You better not cry. Yeah, he did it here in Toronto. Some lady threw him a Santa hat and he did it the day I was there. Fucking love that show, bro. Fucking love it. I've never seen him.

I've never seen him. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy.

I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm so happy the day I was there. I fucking love that show. I fucking love it. I've never seen it. And a guy who's naughty and nice Santa Claus is coming to town Santa Claus is coming to town Santa Claus is coming to town He sees you when you're sleeping He knows if you're awake He knows if you're down there I can't believe Max Weinberg was on the Conan O'Brien late show.

He's such a nerdy guy on that show. Do we know anybody who saw Max at the horseshoe? He played two nights at the horseshoe. I wish Gary Top might have been there. I would have loved Goofs to be there. I bet you Gary Top wasn't there. I don't think he leaves the house anymore. I don't think he goes to shows anymore. Okay, talk to us Rob Bruce. Well you know all about

this. It's Bruce Springsteen and it's 1978. You gotta have a fucking mindblower or something. I got no mindblow except- You got nothing? You just bring the jams? Yeah but the- Point it. Here's what- We yell at him for bringing too many. I know. But here- Now he brings nothing. This is interesting to me. This song was first released on a Sesame Street album in 1981. Is that true? Yes, a compilation album called In Harmony 2. Yeah, I didn't know that. Bruce Bracey doing a live version or a studio version?

The recorded version, the studio version. Wow. It was first released in 81 on a Sesame Street album. I think I'm out of Sesame Street by 81. I'm doing the math in my head. I think I'm out of it by then. But you can come back now. But I can't.

Oh, that's pretty good. Because I had the Sesame Street Fever album. I played like crazy. Oh. Disco Grover. Yeah. Yeah, this was a good one. I had the very first Sesame Street album.

When they did the vibe, Jake Clemens did that part, but he doesn't get as low as Clarence. How could you? I think they tried to help him with some effect on the microphone. Clarence Clemens, man. What a giant. He's like, what a giant, what a lot. He's come up a lot on this episode here.

Yeah, it was a highlight there. I didn't expect that. A lot of Clarence's actually. We could also talk about Clarence from... Carter. Yeah, Clarence Carter. And then isn't there a Clarence in... Clarence the Cow? It's a Wonderful Life? Yes, Clarence the Angel.

Add a Boy, Clarence. Fucking love that movie. I'm crying thinking about it right now. Zuzu's Petals. Add a Boy, Clarence. There you go. A lot of Clarence references. Great song. This is a good one. You can't not like this.

You know I know. It's good. Yeah. And it's December, it's Christmas. Yeah. It's winter, it's holiday, it's festive. And to have him like do this and a little, my TikTok vibe right now or whatever. My algorithms got a ton of old sopranos in it right now. A little Steven, like I'm watching

Steve Vansant do his thing. That's cool. I actually saw this. So I saw the, the last of the documentary at TIFF. Thanks to my friend, David Allard, who doesn't believe in recrubing. We saw and a little Steven and Bruce were there for for it and so I was in the same room. Stephen Sopranos of course. So Leslie says Rob, yes, when I saw spoons in Cory Hart and Maple Leaf Gardens on New Year's Eve, 40 years ago, Cory Hart played Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. Did he? Well he also had a single, he did that as a single. You're confusing people. I'm sure it was not quite hard. I will get to that in a minute. I want you to just put a pin in there. But I do want you to take the stage as we say

goodbye to Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. Your final jam is coming up. So I got Max Weinberg. So Canada Kev, I just got a, see, I got this phone. It's actually Monica's watch. What'd you get? Her Garmin. Cause she got a new Garmin. And I said, okay, let me try it. I just, for shits and giggles.

But what I like is- So you're messaging your wife? I just saw that, you know, he's messaging me because my phone is now synced with this, that Canada Kev sent me a text to say, basically check your fucking email, you loser. I sent you something. So let's do this. This is exciting. Is he mad at me because I told him to fuck off earlier? No, no, no. Canada Kev. I apologize right after.

He's not mad at you. He's the sweeter. He fucking loves you. I'm checking. the fucker earlier. No, Canada, Kev. I apologize. Right. You he's the sweeter. He fucking loves you. I'm checking cam, checking my email. Canada, did we run into Canada? Kev at a soccer match was that Canada? Who do we run into? Whose name is? Oh, no, that was somebody else whose name is not real. What they say. Yeah, that was on him. But this is I'm just going to download it quickly. It's because it's a bigger file. It's F. L. A. C.

files. And I'm now down. I'm giving play by play to you guys. I could have talked about something else while you were doing this. Well, this is not going to take that long. I'm going to load this up and we're going to play it here and then we're going to get to your final jam. So it's loaded up now. You guys ready? Ready. Oh, it's a big fat file. Thanks. Okay. Canada. Can I just need an MP3? So it's loading. It's a big boy. 81 is from, okay. You ready? I just need an mp3. So it's loading. It's a big boy. 81 is from, okay. You ready? The demo, it's a demo. You're funny. Canada. How did he get this?

So this is like original before Niles got a whole lot of jump. I to produce this pre-production. Do you know? Well, this is a demo we did in Oakville. Yeah. Sounds pretty similar. it's pretty close it's pretty raw are you no drums right all drum machines no that's drums no drum machine No drum machine. Who's on drums? Derek Ross. It is Derek. Yeah.

Oh. Sleep. Hide in your Nova Heart. But it's pretty there, man. It's pretty close. Oh yeah. I've heard some demos and it's like, oh my goodness, this is pretty almost fully formed. It needs some massaging, but like Sandy's there.

And now Arnie just gets a hold of it, eh? So you come in with this to him? This was, John Punter was the producer of this. Oh, John Punter. Okay, sorry, wrong team. Yeah, we worked with him on this. Yes. All right. Thank you, Canada Kev, for sending us the Nova Herc demo from 1981.

That's a deep cut. But we're, yeah, there you go. Okay, so any words? And are you, so you, are you credit, are you the music? No, not on that song. anyways, so you are you credit? Are you the music? Are you do you have a right? No, that's all right. You don't know credit on that. Otherwise, that's what we'd be playing every fucking toast I play romantic traffic. That's Rob's big hit here. Yeah from the spoons So he gets like point zero zero zero zero zero eight cents. That's right. I told my youngest daughter

Morgan who you saw me bike home with from swimming before we started about your song that you're kicking out and I played it for her and she named it right away. She's very excited. She did so all right. Oh yeah, that's the biggest are biggest pop artists in the world, maybe ever. Oh my sorry. I think, I think maybe and I'll just tease the fact that I love Bob's mind blow because he's 100% right. So listen to this and then he's got a little mind blow. Six nights sold out at Skydome.

Come on. Now that I know the mind blow, you're 100% right. Oh my God. This is our place, we made the rules. And there's a dazzling haze, a mysterious way about you, dear. Haven't known you 20 seconds, 20 years. So lush. I'm not gonna care what anybody says.

This is a great song. Yep. You're my, my, my, my lover. Come on. It's so good. You know what? Like the hate that this woman gets. Does she get hate from any reasonable people? No, not reasonable hate.

No, she gets hate. It's not jealousy and people go, oh, shit, pop music and blah, blah, blah. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, You know what like the hate that this woman gets she get hate from any reasonable no not reasonable hate No, she gets hate. It's a jealousy and people shit pop music and blah blah guess what she is Arguably the biggest pop artist ever. I don't I like she sold out 60,000 seats at Sky Dome for six nights. She's doing the same thing at BC place right now She nobody else And here's the

thing, I got on the go train with all these Swifties one time and they're the positivity in which she brings to people. You know when CP24 was like doing, they're doing their cut-ins outside of the- Steve Ryan. No, it was a girl, this one I particularly saw, but they're doing their cut-ins and like, and there was a whole takeoff of like like normally when you see people like the man on the street or woman on the street things it's like grab her in the blah blah blah this woman this woman it's fwit this woman couldn't do her cut in because everybody's saying you're doing a great job we love you the positivity is insane I've told the story about how I met her and I met her mother yeah yeah yeah it's on my it's

on my face remind people how did you meet Taylor Swift 2015 she's doing the 1989 tour I was a the music director for Virgin Radio in Toronto for a cup of coffee and in that time yeah and in that, she came in to do the show. She did two nights at Sky Dome or Roger Center. And if you were in my mother, so turn to her dad, her dad's best friend was a radio sales guy. And so she heard her dad's radio sales guys, like still part of the whole tour. And he and they, and country artists, especially, which she was, understand the importance of radio airplay and even to this day they still do Chris Stapleton

and Zach Bryan and all they understand that radio matters and it still does and I mean maybe in a different way but anyhow so she had me come out as the music director you had to go and you had to leave your you had to give them a picture and a little fucking bio and everything and you're standing there and she walks up to you hey Bob you're're standing there and she walks up to you Hey Bob, you're in this room. She walks up to say hey Bob. Thanks for playing my song on virgin radio It's amazing and then so I got that got a picture and then afterwards I'm standing there talking to this lovely woman and after my in that I'm talking to her for like 10 minutes

I'm just like yeah, like shooting shit and afterwards my old boss who I used to work with at Evan off radio Paul I'm gonna be like, do you know you're just talking to him just talking to him like no, he was like that's Taylor's mom I'm talking to Taylor's mom for like 10 minutes. Wow, then Taylor's mom took us on a tour of the backstage You know what? I don't hate I don't I don't hate any like she makes great pop music and lover Yes, beautiful. Beautiful and it is completely Derivative of this song from the 90s. This fantastic song that we all fucking love. My wife pointed this out.

Oh, we've kicked this out before. Yeah. My wife pointed this out. I was like, oh, it's nice that she takes this inspiration. Yes. Does something new. Yeah. Yep. Right. What a great song this is.

Both those songs. Like this is a great song as well. Lush, atmospheric. Just like think about the like the It's crazy, right? Yeah, we can remember everything we can keep the light until January same thing. It's the same thing. Yeah Some great songs that that's what they do those they echo Yeah, so long else became again for all gotten shit for it with Robin Thicke, right? Because it was that going too close, but like you can't do that Ed Sheeran has a great argument on that But you can't do that

But the production is so similar like think about like if you listen to Fade into you. Let's listen to the it doesn't have the same chord progression or melody Taylor's more melodic with it It's like a vibe though. Yeah, same vibe for sure. Yeah, but so how do you trademark vibe? Yeah.

Right? I don't know. Look, is she inspired by it? Sure. But if you like, did you go where I go? Is it totally different? Totally different. Yeah. Filmmakers do the same thing.

There's some neat documentaries where you can watch how a filmmaker takes a certain films like aesthetic Robber he's a criminal Steals yeah, but he makes it great. Yeah. Yeah, could I go is it a whole lot of my yeah So he's there's all over the place. It's like a date into me is like a darker like it's a darker chorus They're all over the place. So Fade Into Me is like a darker, like it's a darker chorus. She takes it to a different, more positive spin. Yeah, so it goes down here, right?

And where she brings it up. Taylor, it's a great song and it has a Christmas vibe, or not, a winter vibe to me. It is a wintery for sure. Both these songs. Okay, I'm going to take us on like a one minute detour before we get to my final jam, which is to say, so Taylor Swift is so fucking big like you said greatest biggest pop I think she might be the biggest pop artist of all time

And you know, you can make a good argument for that and I wouldn't even be able to argue against it Okay, he's so who is she dating? I'm not asking you Bob. Oh, I want to know Does Rob Proust know who Taylor Swift is dating? The Kelsey guy? There you go. Do you know Kelsey's first name? Travis. Not a boy! Do you know what team he plays for? The Buffalo Bills. No! He plays against the Buffalo Bills. They're gonna be in the KSC Finals. He plays for the team that's winning. No, but they beat them last week. Did they okay. Do you know his brother? Yeah, this is Jason Kelsey what listen closely So I did so many minds right here, this is Jason Kelsey Miley sounds you know Ron Sexsmith's song? Do you know whose voice that is?

Miley! Sounds like Miley. Miley's mom. Do you know, Ron? Yes, but I can't stand her voice now. That's Stevie Nicks. This is Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey.

Doing a duet This is a Ron Sexsmith song But you know what song it is? I love Ron, but you know what the melody is? I'm going to sing it for you when it comes back around I'm ready Oh come all ye faithful Joyful and unwavering

I thought it was a I also thought it was an East Coast Ron Hines song It's so come all ye faithful with a few notes from it so dropping later this month as a like a Christmas special almost is a Ron Sacksmith episode of Toronto Mike nice in which we talk about this here being the first ever number one song on any chart on the planet penned by Ron Sexsmith. Amazing. It went to number one on the holiday chart.

I can't wait to hear that because you know like Ron Sexsmith is such an interesting guy. Like Paul McCartney loves Ron Sexsmith. Like you hear his story about when he went over to Paul's house? Yes! I know! And I'm just like and yet he doesn't have... Elvis Costello, all these guys they love Ron Sexsmith. And yet he doesn't like he probably, all these guys, they love. And yet he doesn't like, he probably lives in a house like things because this is, this is came out in November. Wow. It's amazing. Went to number one on the

holiday chart and it's Jason Kelsey who does a pretty good job on it. It's really good. The Philadelphia former Philadelphia Eagle retired. Now they're from Cleveland though. The Kelsey's, you know that they, if you walk in Hall of Fame, do you ever watch their podcast or listen to their podcast? So the interesting thing about those guys, they're almost Canadian. No, honestly, first of all, they call pop pop. They don't call it soda. Yes. They're like, Cleveland is pretty close to being Canadian. Cleveland is on the other side of the area. They might, but I think they're very Canadian in their mannerisms. Actually.

Okay. We're going to wrap it up with my chance. So I just do that in order to tease this upcoming episode of Ron Sexmith. When's that dropping? Uh, like the 18th or 19th of December is going to be great. And we're going to play that song. We're going to play the original. We're going to talk about all that. Okay. Ron Sexmith. Has he done it already or in your waiting? Let's just say, uh, not your style. It's not my style. It is in the can. I did too many episodes in a row. I mean, I'm literally recording twice tomorrow. I

really I just hear you come tomorrow. Go ahead. Oh, no, I only have eighty eight episodes now. I released two in this weekend and you guys both missed one. I know so I don't know how you guys do it. I know it's true, but I didn't. I couldn't miss Scott Thompson because I was so jealous. I got a actually have it. I'll tell you you I have a tool to help to tell you about how to fix that audio by the way. What your audio or mine? No, no, my audio, but like if you ever do it, I or what it was something like that. Yeah, you know, sometimes I like it sounding shitty because that's the

authentic way. It was, you know, come on. Yeah it was Adobe AI. I'll just shut the fuck up. Here we go. Run Rudolph, Randolph ain't too far behind Run, run Rudolph, Santa's gotta make it to town Santa make him hurry, tell him he can take the freeway down Run, run Rudolph, cause I'm reeling like a merry-go-round They're trying to do a boycott, what are you doing all these for? Okay, this is interesting. You talk about copyrights and stuff. This song's called Run Rudolph Run. It's written by Chuck Berry. So Chuck Berry puts this together independently because Chuck Berry was a fucking talented

mofo. But the name Rudolph is trademarked by Johnny Marks and Ambrody. So the name Rudolph is trademarked by Johnny Marks and Am Brody. What? So the name Rudolph is trademarked. By what year? So, well it's going back to the 60s I guess. Well because Gene Autry did Rudolph. Right, well if you use Rudolph in your song title,

You have to pay them? You have to give them a writing credit, okay? So basically this song is credited, also credited to Johnny Marks and M Brody because they have the trademark on the character Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. So you can't have a song called Run Rudolph Run because of that reason. Okay? So it was very interesting to read into this because it's of course a Chuck Berry song that he released on chess records.

Oh, by the way, not 60s, in the 50s. This is all 50s stuff. 58, okay? So the song was called Run Rudolph Run, but it has been covered many times, of course, and the title that it gets covered under now is Run Run Rudolph, so a little bit of a change there. But let me blow your mind on a few things here.

Are you guys ready? Okay, so Chuck Berry, this is Run Rudolph Run, okay? So I might do this. I might fade it down and start it up one more time here. So let's listen again to the beginning of Run Rudolph Run. ["Run Rudolph Run"] Not of all the rain years, you know you're... Ha ha ha.

Go, go. go Johnny, go Oh, it's back to Michael J. Fox That's right Everything comes back to the white guy who created rock and roll Ha ha ha Oh, that's a great scene though It is Deep down in Louisiana, close to New Orleans

Way back up in the woods among the American Are you just discovering it's a great song? I think it's a good song, what do you guys think? You think it's good? I'm going back. This is back to run Rudolph run. Okay. So this is run Rudolph run again. Yeah. Virtually identical. So many songs use that. Yeah. Well, he's got another song. Okay. I'm going back. This is back to run Rudolph run. Okay. So this is run Rudolph run again. Yeah. Virtually identical. So many songs use that. Yeah. Well, he's got Run again. Yeah. Virtually identical over here. So many songs use that word. Yeah.

Well, he's got another song, okay? Out of all the ringgit Oh, Little Queenie. No, sorry, Little Queenie. Little Queenie, yeah. I think the glasses, Little Queenie. So you hear that? Run, run, Rudolph Run

This is Little Queenie. Yeah, that's the point. This is Little Queenie. That's perfect. I love it. Feeling it, feeling it It's like chubby checker and let's twist again. If it works, why not do it again?

It's all the same. Everybody loved it. Little Queenie and Run Rudolph Run are the same fucking song. Exactly. Yes. It's different lyrics. Run, run, Queenie, you're a little Queenie today. Music traveled more slowly back then, it wasn't so easy to hear the songs. So here's a behind the scenes. So Chuck Berry, I mentioned to you that Rudolph was trademarked by Johnny Marks. So they had to credit Johnny Marks and M Brody and Chuck Berry says, Mdy doesn't he doesn't use the f-word but M Brody does not exist

He says it's a pseudonym created as a scheme to make more money for Marks and his publisher So he says it's just trade marks. It's just Johnny Marks. Oh, that's funny So Chuck Berry writes the song he has to give writing credit to Johnny Marks and this fictional M Brody Well, why didn't you change it to like Run Blitzen? Run little Blitzen, run, run, run. It's a Christmas song. So this song, not this song, this is actually the wrong song.

Okay, so here, well. That's Queenie. That's Queenie, forget Queenie. It's the same fucking song, but okay. So Run Rudolph Run peaked at number 69 on the Billboard Hot 100 in December, 1958. But but 60 years later it re-enters the Hot 100 because this is now streaming era and it goes to number 46 and then eventually it goes to number 10 in 2021. Who knows at some point this fucking song could get to number one on the way that

the streaming has influenced. After being featured by you. Possibly. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. This was his first top 10 hits since My Ding-A-Ling in 1972. I remember when that was on the radio. I was a little kid. It's sad that that's sort of like when you hear Last Kiss is the biggest hit in ProDance career, but it set a record. He gets in the

top 10 for my ding-a-ling in 1972. He gets back in the top 10 in 2019 and that breaks the record for the longest climb to the top 10 62 years and two weeks. Wow. 62 years and two weeks between. Okay. It's not the same chart. Like it's like it's not the same name. It's not the same name. I know. It's just a... Yeah, I know. The metrics have completely changed.

It's not relatable. I think this might be what you were thinking of, of Corey Hart, but... Because Brian Adams has a big radio hit with his cover of Run Rudolph Run. Snow Reggae Christmas. Remember that right? Brian Adams did Reggae Christmas. Oh it's horrible. You can hear it on Boom.

I'm gonna take a freeway down Run, run, Rudolph, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, Chuck, the late great Chuck Berry. The stories on Chuck Berry is a whole separate episode we'll record later. Holy smokes, but what a talented musician. Okay, so some Brian Adams to take us home. I had a good time, I'm feeling festive, but I won't see you guys till- New year. This is all the best for the rest of the year.

Yeah. So Merry Christmas, have a happy new year. It's only December 2nd. My wife was like, are you doing another one this year? I'm like, no, it won't be until January. Once a month, Taylor. Yeah. But this is the third day in a row I hung out with Rob. It's been amazing. I won't see you again till 2025. I know. It's so weird. I had the opportunity to hang out with Rob Bruce for a couple of drinks before we got here. Yeah, we had a nice conversation at some wings. You had some poutine. Yep. It was nice. You got some what? I had poutine.

Yeah, actually Irish poutine. Irish poutine. Irish au poutine. Do you think Rob might be a little too nice, to be honest? No. No, no, we were actually saying really mean things about you. Yeah. Behind your back. No, not at all.

Hey, honestly, Merry Christmas. Thank you for everything this year. You guys helped me. You guys talked about how I have a little... We got you a new job? We went through a whole journey with you this year too. It's been amazing. You didn't help me get the job, but you did help me get through the shittiness of being unemployed.

And I posted something on my Facebook and on my LinkedIn. If you people want to see it, it's like, if you go facebook.com slash bingo, Bob or whatever. Like he's got like a life coach. I had, I worked with a guy who was, yeah. But you guys helped me through because I was, where we met, I had this, I had, fuck off. I had, I had the off I had I had I

the opportunity to hang out with you guys once a month and I've something to look forward to beyond my own podcast that gave me an opportunity to feel good and and and and do what I what we all love to do which is talk about music and then try to make each other laugh and so thank you very I want to honestly thank you very much thank you very Christmas. I want to just honestly, thank you very much. Thank you. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy holidays to all. Bob, do you know I have a new closing theme? You're playing the wrong version. No. Yeah, you are. I can tell. It's okay. It's in mono. It's Brian Wilson style. Yes. Then this is in mono. That's okay. We'll, we'll fix it in post.

How sure are you? Well, because I can hear it's in mono. It's only in the middle. There's no glory stereo. Were you, did you, did you produce it in stereo? Like, yeah. But I, I, I was just rosy and gray, like just like with a, with some extras at the end, but I sent you a version that was a smaller file

and I realized it was in mono and I sent another one, which was a larger file. And it's in stereo. What do you think it would cost to get Ron to do a birthday party? But what makes it mono because everything's in the middle. It's all there's no there's no there's no dynamics between the two sides right? No separation of the sounds so when it's in mono remember all those leaves are brown So everything is in the center, but a stereo version has like more left to right. I'll send you a version right now We gotta fix that I didn't even know that's what this is the one I played at TMLX Is it in the room we only had one speaker probably has like more left to right. I'll send you over there right now. We gotta fix that. I didn't even know. This is the one I played at TMLX.

Is it? It's the one we only had one speaker probably. Yeah, it still sounds okay. But I just noticed that it's in modern. Okay, but this is the new closing theme that you put together Rob. I know we talked about it at TMLX 17, but thank you for doing this. You are very welcome. And I'm gonna let it play through so people can hear the Easter eggs. Alright. What do you think about periodically refreshing it

with different Easter eggs? I say, let's do it. In the new year, it'll be our thing. We'll figure out a timetable and we'll just do them. Like, is it fun for you to do that? Yeah, totally. Okay, well then we've got the job. But especially if we're gonna append the ending

of the song, like I'll keep the first half, this part, right? And then we'll throw in some shit at the end. This guy's such a mensch. When I was up, I actually Evil Dead, the musical's on right now in Toronto and I auditioned for it And he put together for that. Yeah, it was for that this playing now I didn't get it, but he actually put together the piano track for my

He's a man I prefer the term sweetheart You know what he's a wonderful man It's a wonderful life. It is Rob Cruz it. Clarence. Clarence. Atta boy, Clarence. Somebody's getting a bell. Somebody's ringing a bell. Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings. Atta boy, Clarence.

And that brings us to the end of our 1,590th show. You can follow me at trontomike.com. I'm all over blue sky now. Blue. What do you call you? Is it tweeting still? I'm gonna say tweeting. It's a fun word to say tweeting up a storm on blue sky and that Toronto Mike on blue sky. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery, which by the way fucking was delicious tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Palma pasta who hosted us at TMMLX17. Thank you to the

Petrucci family. Everybody went home full with their tummies full. It was delicious. Recyclemyelectronics.ca. They'll be back in 2025. Much love to Clip Hacking and the gang there. Mineris! Name that tune Bob. Sorry. Too young right Bob? It was Friendly Giant. No, I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I- Zappa Costa. Shout out to Menaris. I have Al Greggo here tomorrow to kick out jams from season seven of Yes We Are Open. Name that song, Bob. I can't, I don't know. Something romantic. Romantic traffic. Randle Funeral Home. See you all tomorrow with Al Greggo. Oh, nice. Shadowy men.