Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST39: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1652

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

In this 39th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out problematic jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

Just toast. I'm gonna think about it. FOTM's, do you know what time it is? It's... Toast time! Toast! Featuring students... Sorry, just zero my throat, get ready. Yeah, no. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Got a problem with that?

No, I deserve that. I would have done the same thing. Like when I kicked out the jams of three-year-old Jarvis and the thing was going motherfuckers and I went AHHHHH! Welcome to Toronto Miked! Episode number 1652! Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. A fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times and brewing amazing beer.

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Sure. You can give me some more. I forgot. And Rob, tell me if yours is getting louder. I don't remember. No, I'm number four. What? I'm number four. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm good. Yeah. Sure. You can give me some more. I forgot. And Rob, tell me if yours is getting louder. I don't remember. I'm number four. What I got. I'm number four. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's good. Turn up the snare. You turned me up too. Did you turn me up? Yeah, because I didn't know who is who over here. Okay. Welcome back to Toronto, Mike, Robin Bob. Nice to see you once again. Nice to be back. Good to see you. How are you, sir? Me? Yeah, you. I guess you said. I figured that was your raw praise. Because you know, we have a future Canadian,

are you in any halls of fame? No. Well, we got like a civic recognition thing from Burlington. I got a key to the city. You got a key to the city. I got a key to the city. That's good. We got some kind of civic recognition.

But don't you think maybe Spoon belongs in the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame? Please add another S. Yeah, Spoons. Please add one more S. The Spoons. Spoons. That band from the States will never get in the Canadian Hall of Fame. Please add another S. Yeah, spoons. Please add one more S. The spoons. Spoons. That band from the States will never get

in the Canadian Hall of Fame. No. They're pretty cool though. They are. I love their music. I really do. Were you pissed off when another spoon showed up? Like is that too close for comfort?

I never cared, because we never made much traction in the States anyway, so by the time they came along. Now you never will. We never will, except on all the retro Canadians who escaped to America to get away from Canada. The transplant, we're bringing them all home.

Any thoughts since our last conversation, Rob Bruce, any thoughts on returning to the motherland, returning home? Oh yeah. Well, not specific thoughts, but it's very anxiety- What were you doing the past month? I wanted some specific thoughts. I got no specific thoughts.

But it's, but isn't, we're all like doom scrolling and like, it's ridiculous. Like, like what we're all daily facing and dealing with. And it's so stupid. Is it making the, is it making, is it getting the coverage down there that it gets here? It gets, it gets coverage. Yeah. I mean, I'm finding, I, you know,

I'm finding the coverage that I want to find because as a Canadian living down there, it means much more to me. Sure. But I think in a larger picture, like if I see headlines in, in, I'm finding the coverage that I want to find because as a Canadian living down there It's means much more to me sure but I think in a larger picture like if I see headlines and in on the New York Times Or the Washington Post or whatever the the conversation is kind of the same But they have too many other things in the air as well. Like it's just all yeah. Yeah, he's messing up everywhere Yeah, so we're we're very Canadian centric as we should be but is CNN talking about this at all You know, there was somebody on there last week Yeah. So we're, we're very Canadian centric as we should be, but is CNN talking about this at all? You know, there was somebody on there last week.

They had a, some Canadian rep sort of given some, some perspective on it. Oh, I saw that guy. He's a bit of a weirdo. I got to watch it again. Cause I didn't, I only watched it with the sound off. So did you hear the Elvis story? So Elvis is in North Oshawa at his kid's hockey game and he can over here like another family in the stands.

Okay. So he hears the grandfather of this family is telling his family members about this guy he saw on CNN on Friday, this, and that he was really like, this guy hit it out of the park and really nailed it. So this gentleman whose name will come to me in a moment here, gosh, what's his name? Larry Walter, it'll come to me. But he basically wrote an email to this

guy. He was on CNN and this guy on CNN wrote him back and he was really excited about this. And Elvis said it was the greatest colliding of worlds. Uh, witness. His name was Bruce. His name was Toronto Bruce, Bruce bunker. So hello to Bruce bunker in North Oshawa. All jokes aside, sir, you did a great job. Yeah, you were, it was really great. That's the second time I've been called sir. I can get used to this. It's going straight to my head here. So tell us how things are going.

Bob, I noticed you've lost a shit ton of weight. You look fantastic. Yeah, I started losing weight late last year and it's kind of noticeable, I guess, with this shirt. I'm wearing more green today because it's St. Patrick's Day and it looks a little bit like a tent right now. Can you lift the shirt? I want to see the tummy. It looks tight. It looks not tight. It's loose and gooey. I'm still gooey. I'm just less gooey. So when you cinch the

belt, is there less muffin top? Oh, there's less muffin top and the belt's got to go a lot a lot tighter. I'm excited for you. You look trim. Thank you. Thank you. Other than maybe are you eating less donuts? Like what's your less donuts? No, just a pure donut diet actually. No, I just you know, it's a do you do your whole show standing up? I do I see that's got to be part of it, too. You can't do that down here though. No, no, no, I It's a stand-up studio at an 88 gives you a good energy when you're standing So what I do I actually set up I have like two work areas I have the the on area and then I put my laptop

on the other side. I do my work, I'll sit down over there and get my prep together, but I will not sit down when I'm on the air, no way. No. Because every time you have little clips of you doing your stuff, I think it looks so energetic. Like that's why you portray that energy.

I also can't stop moving because I've got that kind of, I got that ADHD thing going on. So it's got that nervous energy. It's not even nervous on, so it's got that nervous energy. Yeah, it's not even nervous. Yeah. It's just a high energy like anyways. Yeah. So I do stand up all the time. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, but yeah, how are things at Indy 88? You're on six days a week. I'm on six days a week right now. I don't know. Did I tell you guys how they came to me and asked to go to six? I said that when you're not on the air, that's right. Okay. The, the, the ratings are in the toilet. Basically they,

they said they could tell when I'm not on the air, that's right. Okay, the the ratings are in the toilet. Basically, they could, yeah, they said they could tell when I'm not on the air and the they said we need more. Bob, did they ever say how about seven days a week? Not yet, not yet, but I'll just give an example. You know we get daily ratings right, and it's the sample size is so small. You're talking for adults twenty five fifty four. There's only like four hundred and sixty ppm meters out there. It is a small sample size, but statistically speaking, it's accurate yeah. So the other day I filled in for Lana, our afternoon show host, and I was the number two most listened to radio

station women twenty five fifty four in Toronto during that like Bob Willett for afternoon dry just and that's over. Yeah, well, that's even without seeing a photo of how handsome you are. Stop it just probably saw on Instagram. You know so anyways, but then you know, the next night I'm on the air and I get a point one, like there's no, it's such a small sample size. Yeah. You can't live and die by the daily ratings, but you have, you do want to look at them because they're a tool in the, in the tool belt there. So it's going very, very well. I, I just really, as you guys know, I dig doing radio and I really dig just

being on here so much. It's so great. And they're letting me do what I want in the sense that tonight I'm going to do like a St. Patrick's day thing. We've upped the Irish content. Nobody else is doing anything like this. You know, we had the hockey game on while I was on the air. I know you're going to have cranberries. You're going to have Sinead O'Connor. You're going to have you too. Yep. Uh, the Pogues as well. I'm gonna play some Pogues tonight, which is off the playlist. That's amazing. It's amazing that I'm getting to do that. Do you get to play? Do you request it? Like, yeah, so I put in a suggestion. Yeah. So I, so normally like I don't during the,

during, I don't do anything with the music, but if I have a couple ideas, I think I've told you guys, I have an idea for a, for a feature that I want to do that still we're getting going. It's just taking a little longer than expected, but I also I was like, Hey, it's so and so's birthday. Can I do this or it's whatever? I want to make a big deal out of it and this particular one. Hey, Monday, I said Monday is a shitty night for St. Patrick's Day. I said, So why don't like let's let's have let me do a little party on the air and they said sure. So it starts off at six o'clock with you know, yeah, you too, and the

cranberries and hosier who is he's Irish as well, but then as we go, it gets it gets, you know, we're gonna play the water boys. We're gonna play, you know, but the Irish Rovers, I know that would be Toronto and that's that would be cancon. It would be cancon. I might play it in the back. I might play it in the background. They were green alligators and unicorns. You do the great big see. They've got some Irish ditties. Yeah. I said, I'll play anything Celtic sounding, right?

Spirit of the West. Mumford and Sons. Yeah, like even Mumford, they're Welsh, but they sound Celtic. They sound, they've got that sound. That's right. Anyway, so I'm just going to do that. What about Ashley McKisick? Ashley McKisick's great.

What time you starting? Six? I started at six. I'm going to be tuning in while I'm driving. And there's Gaelic in that Ashley McKisick. Yeah. The big sleepy Maggie. Yeah. Which is great. Fuck. It's a great song. I just, I just, it's funny. I just put it on. Yeah. It's actually the actual Irish language. There's a joke in there somewhere that I just thought of something to do with an Irish guy with an Irish vampire, Gaelic garlic. I don't know. I don't know what the joke

is yet. You're not the second city guy on the panel. Okay. That's Bob. We'll work. Okay. So Bob, we love hearing your voice on indie continued success, indie, when you're not the second city guy on the panel. Okay. That's Bob. Okay. So Bob, we love hearing your voice on indie continued success, indie when you're not on it, just so pedestrian. But when you're on it next level, East York, John says, make sure you got whiskey in the jar going for you. That's an essential tonight. Hello to Leslie, who says happy St. Patrick's date, everybody in the live stream VP of no sales. I want to say a quick comment about VP,

which is in the not so secret FOTM chat on whatsapp I said I'm gonna be spending the next hour or so at Mimico Arena it was Super Sunday the last house league final the house league final for my almost 11 year old son and guess who came out to watch my son play in this final it was the VP of sales he came out to the game the game. Isn't that nice? This is a sweetheart everybody. So take a note. That's an absolute sweetheart. Top of the morning to J-Ho. Good morning to Moose Grumpy. Hello to Tobias Vaughn. Let's see here. We got WBN 1000. We got Canada Kev on the live stream. It's a good crowd here today. Andy, Andy, it's awfully early for you. I'm impressed that even Andy is here.

Andy, I just booked Mike Willner's girlfriend. Mike Willner's girlfriend, this is a fun fact, is Nancy from Degrassi, and she's now in the Toronto Mike calendar. And I said, I'll do 90 minutes with Nancy about dating Mike Willner. Well, what's going on here? Okay, so how are you

doing, Rob? I know we checked in with the Indy 88 superstar. That's Bob. I know this. Come on in the 88. Will they play? Do they play any spoons in India? No way. Yes, we did. Oh, no. You know what? I also know we have it. Yeah, we do play spoon. Yes, we do play spoon, but the spoons, you know what? The owner of the company owns these three stations, one in Alastin, Orangeville and Milton at a local radio lab. And I, I may or may not do a show on those three stations too. And we play a lot. Wow. We play like a exclusive here. We play a lot of spoons on amazing. Alison, not too far from 89. Maybe that is 89 where I would take it to go to Guilford, Ontario,

and then I would take my grandmother grocery shopping in Bradford, Ontario. Yeah, there you go. Guilford sounds familiar, I think I've driven through that. It's a tiny little. Yeah. Didn't he play for the Leafs, Doug Guilford? Yeah, that's right.

Oh yeah. Oh my goodness, I see a spider. Don't look, I see a big spider over there. My goodness, we might be in trouble. Leave it alone. If you hear screaming, it'll be because the spider attacks us. So how are you doing, Rob? I'm doing good.

I'm doing good. I'm doing a little bit of work on this Nash the Slash documentary. Can you be more specific? Cause I got a nice note from Colin Brunton about my CNN appearance. Oh, you did? Yeah, Colin, I mean-

I got the wildest notes. I gotta say, I don't know who watched it live or if people are picking it up on YouTube, but people are coming out of the woodwork like, man, you're really speaking. I feel like I'm saving the country. Am I overreacting here? Elbows up, baby. Yeah. One spokesperson at a time. I mean, we're all together, right? So the fact that

you did that, I think everybody who knows you and knows of you is very proud. Am I a folk hero, Rob Proust? Yeah, you are. To me, you are. You really are. Okay. So back to the national slash dog from Colin Branson. So I'm just doing some little music cues for the film and it's very exciting to try to sort of dig back into my early 80s sounds. Look at, there it is.

Cool. Yeah. Last logo. I've been communicating with Colin and with the director, Tim Kowalski as well. And it's been really fun. Like they're just sort of wrapping up the film but there's little bits and pieces.

Ages ago I said to Colin, if you need any any music like that's my jam like early 80s with Nash's to tour with us and he used to come on stage and play Ares and symphonies with us and stuff as well Look at that. There he is. Yeah, yeah cool The flash so hopefully the ball gonna see the light of day later this year. I think there's You know, I think I said it on this program I got a Colin wrote me to say after he was on Toronto Mike, somebody pledged $10,000. Amazing. Oh wow. Listen, I heard him on Toronto Mike and said, here's 10,000 power. The power of the FOTM. And I'm like, where's my f*****g 10,000? Hey, we got you a boat. Well, that's true. No,

I can't complain. I'm teasing. I know I got a boat. I can't wait for the weather. I'm playing in the background. Gentlemen, Roberta Flack. Any thoughts, particularly from the professional musician, but we lost Roberta Flack since our last recording. Yeah. And she of course, Killing Me Softly was one of her big songs covered the cover more known for our Jan I'd say from Lauren Hill in the Fugees. Any thoughts on Roberta Flack? Well, I mean, I'm old enough to have been super young when that was on the radio. So it was a huge hit. Of course, for me, I, in my earliest days of listening to the radio, I loved this song. I loved every song she released

and like she's, she's another person. That's the sound of my childhood. Like it's, I just love everything she did. Beautiful. Yeah, she, she, I love her duets. There's some of her duets. I'm a big fan. With Donny Hathaway. Yes, I'm a big fan of duets, especially like cheesy ballad-y ones, as you would say.

Of course. So yeah, that's when I think, obviously killing me softly, but the one that I really, the songs, the stuff she did with Donny. Yes, amazing songs. And this song is like, Oh, and tonight I celebrate my love

with people with people, Bryson. I just like saying people. That's the one that it's set the night, the music with Maxie Priest. But this but this song, this first time, this original version, which is a cover, there's such space to this music is in the early 70s. People were like just chillin. Oh, yeah. This is this song takes its time and it's beautiful.

It's not in a rush. You don't hear this on a lot of top 40 stations where they can just... You used to though, that's the thing. When I was a kid, this was on the... This was CKOC, this was Chum. Oh yeah, you would never get a radio that would add this anymore. They'd be worried that people would fall asleep. What is wrong with people? They should enjoy they should enjoy it. I don't know. Yeah. Zoomer play this. I had Andy Wilson over Bob Willett on the Andy Wilson.

I did listen to that one because you told me I was mentioned. Um, no, uh, Andy. So I do have an answer for who owns the boom. Who I'm curious. So to set it up though. No, I didn't even investigate. I forgot about it, but, uh, I remember when Colleen Rush home was let go from chorus. Yes. It was boom. Yeah, she worked for boom in Ottawa, which is a course station, but here we know chorus is I mean sorry. Boom is owned by new new cap. Yes, so it was astral that owns the boom thing. So it's bell bell owns boom the so how come a core it so every license that they pay just so you just cut a check to

bell and you can call yourself boom and yeah you do that with that yeah any of those easy rock was a licensing thing right with tele media. I think owned it in Canada. It's all licensing the edge was a licensing thing. Did you know that but I was but I was told that that didn't work across the border and that the edge only in America was it licensed but in Canada they could just take it and they didn't pay a penny for the there was some discussion on that. Yes, they know they didn't pay anybody, but they stole the format basically from I know they I know they stole the format. Dallas we're in Canada, so yeah, we don't have to pay you shit so so they didn't actually license yeah but yeah so I'm pretty sure that both stingray and chorus anybody who has a boom station, they have to pay Bell for it. Big ma Bell, big ma Bell, can big passion. Hey Mike, yeah, I've question.

Sure. After the song is sleepy, right? Like it's like beautiful, but it's like, it's not a good toast jam. No, I'm now chilled out. Yeah. I'm just so maybe we should have a beer or two. All right. Crack open a Great Lakes. We'll, we'll, uh, I want to hear a Rob was, I just want to ask about your, after the CNN appearance. And I know you've been in the chat group mentioning about like comments and people. I'm gonna have to crack a beer for this. Okay on the mic three, two,

all right so as usual I got the Canuck Pale Ale for Rob. Thank you. The premium lager for Bob and he's got a one in reserve here when he's ready to go. And I cracked open a burst and I just, I just wonder if 11 AM, I feel like it's perfect. I just wonder if you had, if you noticed a bump in your, I'm not in the room. I mean in the ratings, sure. But do you sense like, like more traffic? Like, I mean, of course it's a CNN five minute thing. It has a larger. Did you see a bump, a spike?? Yeah, without a doubt and I didn't look closely at many of these metrics I was more just like trying to reply to everybody I got lots of notes like I would see a 20 to 1 ratio like 20 being Positive thanks for speaking for us way to go We were proud of you kind of deal and then that one would be like American guys saying we're not even American guys

Canadians who are sympathetic to American guys saying we're not even American guys Canadians who are sympathetic to the Conservative Party of Canada, but I got the only negatives I got were people who were trying to say basically We're not at all aligned with the MAGA movement in this Conservative Party of Canada and Pierre polio It has nothing to do with the MAGA movement because I did suggest on CNN that there was an alignment between the the the Conservative Party of Canada and the MAGA Trump movement and that was the only thing that certain people who are big Pierre Pauli of fans felt that wasn't fair. So that was it. It was all

but overwhelmingly very positive and all I looked at was I was curious as for a baseline where was I ranked for my category in Apple podcasts when I did the live hit and I was number, which is actually real good. And I think Scott Thompson, I think Scott Thompson was a bump already. So I was at 20 and I don't normally live at 20. Usually I live like between 30 and 50 or something, but I was 20 and then that was pretty good.

And the number one Canadian podcast, by the way, for the category in Apple podcasts. But then after the day after the hit on CNN, I was number three. So there was a, yeah, I I'm number three which I haven't been number three in a long time so there you go well deserved my site so Toronto Mike dot com which I'm you know I've been maintaining since the late 90s and I care a lot about that site there was heavy traffic where the CPU is at like a hundred for a while and it was taking like eight nine seconds to load a freaking page it was

kind of really bugging me but so there was a lot of traffic there and my wife who was testing it with me said I hate your ads How much do you make on your ads at Toronto Mike calm? and I said between 200 and 250 bucks a month and she basically asked me very nicely if I would eat the 2250 a month and remove ads from my site because she doesn't like them especially mobile. She found it obtrusive It was a big ad at the top We're so I literally just went into my ad sense account and turned off ads. So here's an exciting announcement, everybody. There's no more ads on Toronto Mike.com on mobile or desktop.

Wow. And I'm out 250. So I'll pass it at TMLX 18, which is June 26th from six to nine PM. And I hope if Bob's not on the air I'm hoping he's there and I can't remember if Rob was able to make it. It's in the calendar. I'm pretty sure I will Okay, so we're gonna pass a hat around. Yeah. Yeah, see if we end up with 250 bucks 26 yeah, it's a Thursday. It's possible because I might not be working six days a week then okay Well, it's possible. I'll take it. So so there you go. It was, and I was on Humble and Fred this morning.

Bob, you've heard of them, right? They, I was on just to talk about being, but there is an episode of Toronto Mike. So the most recent episode of Toronto Mike is me talking about how this came to be. I love that. It came together very quickly. Oh, you mean the CNN story?

Yeah. Oh, I got to listen to that. Oh, it's so interesting. Bob, you'll find this interesting as a professional media person. So I'm here, exactly, everything's the same. I didn't change a freaking thing. And I'm recording, I'm recording my audio feed as I connect via WebEx, but I don't ever, never did I see anything, right? It's all just, I can hear the audio on my headphones and I'm talking, but I know

they can see me. That's the difference, right? So don't pick your nose, Mike. You're on CNN for goodness sake. So, but it's interesting because I hear that, I hear their feed and then I have a producer come on to test the audio and then a producer comes on to say, okay, we'll be with you in five minutes. We'll go about four and a half minutes. And I'm like, okay, cool. And this producer is telling me that we love Canada. Like it's kind of nice. And I, the only thing I don't hear is, is ads. So when they do an ad break, it's completely silence, but I clipped that out and I shared the raw feed. It's so cool to listen to. To me, it sounds

like listening to NASA. Oh yeah, air traffic control or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so T minus 30 seconds. Hey Mike, this is a producer at the front desk. We'll be with you in a couple of minutes. All right, Mike, you did a great job. We'll be in touch again.

And I'm now curious if I ever get the call again. I hope so. What if you become a regular contributor? They said they're gonna check back. Anytime there's a Canadian thing. He's our Canadian correspondent. Yes, right. Okay. Well, where's my captain, my palm, a pasta, Liz? Oh, there you go. Exactly. All right. So a lot of there's actually we got to establish what the

topic is for this episode of toast and then you can you can say whatever you want Bob with it right. Go ahead. Okay. No, I just want to say because we were talking about feedback and I just wanted to get this out of the out of the way, like what it's like getting emails or texts on. I just wanted to say, and I just showed out to a local band Thursday. I had my daughter, my 14 year old daughter, Evangeline cohost with me because it was March break. Right. And I was like, what the hell? Let's uh, I asked my boss, I said, what do you feel about this? I said, you know, I said, I'm not going to make it all about us. We'll talk about the teen experience. She's in grade nine, new school, all this stuff. He said, do it. I love the idea. Cool.

So we're on there. We're talking. We play a ton of the band, the beaches, like every two hours we play a beach song. We go deep into the beaches catalog, and I think we're one of the first radio stations to play them. So if Angeline's first real concert, I took her to go see the beaches at Massey Hall. Nice Leandra Earl of the beaches texts into the radio station saying I'm listening to you guys. Oh cool. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you daughter for being a fan and for coming and taking her to the show. That's amazing.

And I was like, oh my God, now I've also I've met them a few times. I interviewed them a bunch of times, but it was just neat to have the band coming. I was, I was more excited than my dad was. That's a nice flashback to the olden days of the golden days of radio because like this is how I got to know like people at CFNY and like we would show up at the station and they'd be like, come on the air. And like I would be in the control room and picking records and playing stuff.

And then they're like, okay, now we'll play your new song, whatever. That connection is so important. That's so cool she reached out to you. Yeah, so I said to Leandra, she's the bassist and backup singer. She does a few songs. I said, anytime you want to come in and co-host.

Amazing. Come on in. So anyway, just because we were on the feedback discussion, sorry to interrupt, Mike. That's awesome. No, you can interrupt. You're a co-host of this program for goodness sakes, but the topic is problematic jams.

Problematic. And as we describe why we picked our song, we can explain how we personally all interpreted problematic jams, okay? So look forward to that, problematic jams. I have a good example I'm gonna play in a moment, but I was thinking, you know, like between toast episodes, I think a lot, like I go on bike rides

and my brain's thinking of songs and stuff. Okay. Who can name this artist? Bo Diddley. Bo Diddley, baby, diamond ring. Hey, Bo Diddley. If Diddley. The song is also called, what is it called Rob Bruce? Bo Diddley. Bo Diddley. So this beat, they call it the Bo Diddley beat. Yes. Like he made this beat. So you would know that, right?

I've heard that. Give me a, so if you like jamming, give me a Bo Diddley. Yeah, of course. Well, I guess it would be nice. Or I want candy. Because I got to have faith. I want candy. Yeah.

Yeah. So this is 1955 and then he makes it famous. The Bo Diddley beat. So then it's funny. you're singing Faith over there. So you're thinking Faith uses the, you think Faith uses the Bo Diddley beat? I don't think, I know. You know it does, okay, so.

Oh yeah, Faith has that slow buildup at the beginning. I was just listening to this album on vinyl. This album is so good. You know what's a great song? That Friday is so good. See, in real, we're of an age, particularly Bob and I, where we, that was our top 40 goal. Like that was my top 40 goal too.

87, oh my God, it came out in November, 87. It came out. But you know what song, all the songs on that album were fucking great. A lot of hits on that album. But I gotta say, Father Figure- Father Figure's amazing. Holds up.

It's one of my favorite songs. Is it problematic to say, put your tiny hand in mine? Oh, it is now. You know what I mean? It was awkward back then too, though. No, it's true. We didn't think about it too much. And then did you see that Nicole Kidman movie?

I saw it. Baby Girl. Baby Girl. There's a whole meme and scene around the father figure because she does some really interesting things with that in the background. There's this. Is the Bo Diddley beat. Yep.

Yep. Okay. So now I'm thinking here and I'm going to try to elegantly bring in some more here just really quickly. We're going to run through a few. I can bring my DJ equipment if you want. We can mix it up. Such a cool beat, no matter who does it. Magic bus. Yeah, it's amazing how many songs that we know and love use the Bowdiddly

beat. Oh yeah. Is there a problem with the Bowdiddly beat? No, this is not a problematic. Okay. You just, no, no. No, you said he just, he uses this to share his thoughts. The swill side tie into something that will tie into, hang in there. Okay. I see where you're going. Magic bus. How cool is this? Not the magic school bus. I know you're so damn sweet. Good job, Joe. She's so kind, baby. You can write like anything to this, right? It'll be so much fun. Everything is fun. Once you start like thinking on it, hundreds of songs are using the Bo Dindy beat.

What song is this? I won't change it. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl.

I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. I was thinking the Bow Wow Owl. You start thinking on it. Yep. Hundreds of songs are using the Bo-Dibby beat. What song is this? I won't change it. I was thinking the Bow Wow Wow version. Yeah, me too. All right, so I'll do a couple more, and then we'll get out of here. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

That's a train wreck right there. Call those train wrecks. You machine gunned it there. Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it. ["Train Wrecks"] Maybe my favorite song on Appetite for Destruction. I forgot about this. All right, who wants to go next? Yeah, yeah.

I get up around seven, get out of bed around nine. And I don't worry about nothing, no, because one's a waste of time. All right, so Mr. Brownstone, and he'll do one more. And then he'll bring us back to problematic jam. You're bringing it back to the Irish. Happy St. Patrick's Day everybody, got my Great Lakes. Oh, I like Canada Kev with hand jive. Born to hand jive, baby. They make a nice stout Great Lakes Brewery. You don't need to pick up the Guinness today.

You can pick up the stout from TLB. It's delicious. It's delicious. OK, so that was just a random Bo Diddley walk with you guys. A Bo Diddley tangent. You know what? Bo Diddley. Bo Diddley in an ad with the formerly known as great one who I'm still Will be mad until he speaks out the new great one is here in the studio It is Wendell Clark is the new great one. He's taking on the moniker. Okay. Shout out to you two from Dublin, Ireland

Oh, that was an accident everybody. I don't normally do that. I usually hit the fade. Fix that in post. My apology here. But here, we're going to segue over now, gentlemen, because some might say... All of his songs? ...go to make a change for once in my life. You picked one he didn't write, though. Yeah, I know, because there's a reason I picked this one.

Okay. Stay tuned, Bob. Gonna make a difference, gonna make it right. As I turn up the collarboard, my favorite winter code, this wind is blowing my mind. What are the thoughts from you two gentlemen on, firstly, this song, and and secondly all music from Michael Jackson. You're the musician please I have a perspective but um are you asking if I think it's problematic to listen to Michael Jackson? Firstly let's pretend this was written by somebody less problematic. I'm sorry not written but performed by somebody less problematic. What do you think of the song Man in the Mirror? It's a great song it It's great. It's because it's Michael Jack.

Uh, Saida Garrett wrote it. No, Quincy produced it though, right? Yeah. Um, but it's a great song because it's Michael Jackson. And if somebody else had done it, I don't know that it would have gotten the chance to be the song that it is, but that's true of anybody who writes music. Like, but it's a great song. Yeah.

Regardless. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. It's got one of the greatest key changes in all pop music. Oh, it just comes out of nowhere at the end. It's amazing. I just sound like Donald Trump there for a second Changes ever Michael Jackson's got some good key. What do you think of this song Bob? We'll let I okay, so 1983 or 82, you know when Thriller comes out on five six seven eight, whatever I am I had two posters on my walls You know back at the C&E to be able to get those big black ones, the satiny ones that and I

had one was Hulk Hogan and the other one was Michael Jackson. There you go. I am surprised I'm not gay. I've given those two posters, but honestly, we're program director at proud of that. I did. I did. Yes, I'm very, very, very, very close as you can get to being gay with a gay adjacent, K Jason, very close as you can get to being gay with adjacent, very much as an ally. However, I love Michael Jackson's music and I don't care what he did. I can't, I can separate. First of all, nothing was ever proven in court. Everybody settled at a court. Yeah. Was he a messed up person? Absolutely. Was he also an abused person? Absolutely. Yeah. When you talk, when you hear

McCauley, callkin talk about him now, Macaulay Culkin has nothing but wonderful things to say about him. He goes, yeah, we all slept in the same room. He goes, it was Michael Jackson's bedroom. It was like a gymnasium big, you know, nothing happened. I love Michael Jackson's songs. So are Michael Jackson's songs problematic? Cause none of us picked one. No, I didn't. I wouldn't. I don't think so. I know people do. I don't find them problematic. Like, I mean, for people who want to look at him in a lifestyle way, there are people who will judge him without knowing the full stories. So they'll say he's problematic.

That's the key change. Right there. That was a key change. Yeah. They call that the gear. Can I pivot off that key change? Okay. So now we hear the choir, right? Yeah. Take in the choir for a moment and then I'll bring in another song. Yep. That man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, that man, What a pop song, right? I literally was listening to Bad the other day. It's so good.

Oh, you got the dance version. Is it? I think I got the, is it? Yeah, it's not the dance version. Is it? This is the extended version. Is it? Yeah, it's not the album version. This is like a remix version. Oh yeah, it's good though. Maybe it's from the Immaculate collection.

Probably. Do you want to know? Let's call this a mind blow. I think even Jane Sibbery would say this is a bit of a mind blow. You ready for a mind blow? Do it. If I vamp long enough, we'll get to a choir. The same choir! The same choir?

Imagine being the same choir for Michael Jackson and Madonna. The choir from, listen, the choir from Man in the Mirror by Michael Jackson was hired to be the choir for Like a Prayer by Madonna. It's the same choir. What's the name of the choir? I don't have that at my disposal at this moment. I'll Google it later during one of your jams, but I'll get that information.

That's cool. But do you think Catholics, I mean, I know Catholics, but Catholics found the video particularly to be problematic. They did. Did the rest of us care? No, I sure didn't care. No, it was a cool video. Pepsi didn't like it. It was fine. Because Pepsi planned a big campaign around it. That's right. And they pulled it because of the video. Great album too though. So this choir now, but here a quick fun fact about Madonna, then we're really going to get to the actual problematic jams. I know I'm vamping a lot today. I'm very excited. I'm a CNN superstar now, so I'm going to just go. Go, man. Go. Okay. So

here's a bit of a mind blow, I think. Okay. A little bit of a mind blow, maybe not, but who's that girl? Nice. Name that song in one beer less. Great album too. That soundtrack album was great. Yeah. The movie wasn't great. No, no. Madonna. She tried that. Desperately Seeking Susan was good, but she had a small part of whatever. Desperately Seeking A Vita was good. She was good in the baseball movie.

Yeah, she was good in the baseball movie. Think of their own. Smaller, smaller part. A Vita was OK. A Vita was OK, right? She was OK, but that's a singing role. But that's it for good Madonna movies, right? Well, I mean, there's a sex video that wasn't so bad. Oh, right. Okay, but that's a singing role. So but that's it for good Madonna movies. Yeah Well, I mean, there's a sex video that wasn't so bad. Oh, yeah

Like her book the one that went with the book. Yeah, I had that book. Okay, so my daughter have it Yeah in two foil. I still have it somewhere. Yeah, that's amazing. I do one guy who had it really? Okay, she banged Jose Canseco, right? She thanked everybody. Don't know everybody. What about you Rob? No, no I did talk to her on the phone once what? Yeah, I called now Rogers at his studio when he was making like a virgin and she would answer like this, the green room phone. When is the last time you spoke to Nile? We texted earlier this year. I haven't spoken to him. I saw him a couple summers ago when he was on tour with Duran Duran. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Um, but I texted him earlier this year. So

I'm hoping to get like, see him. He lives up in Connecticut, so. Do you wanna, who's that girl mind blow real quick here? Yes. Okay, so I mentioned moments ago, the Immaculate collection. Yeah. This was the Madonna Greatest Hits album. Yeah. How big an artist, how huge a hit maker do you have to be

to leave number one Billboard Hot 100 hits off of your Greatest Hits collection? Like think about this for a minute. This song we're listening to went to number one. It wasn't on it. Madonna left it off the Immaculate, never made the Immaculate collection. I think it's a bit of a mind blow that that's true. A couple of other huge songs that didn't make Madonna's Immaculate collection are True Blue, which was a big hit.

I loved True Blue. It's a great song. Didn't make me and causing a commotion. Love that song too. That's from the same it. It's a great song. Didn't make me end causing a commotion. Well, that's on too. That's from the same soundtrack. That's who's that girl. She is OK. So yeah, there's no problems.

Does she have a post immaculate collection greatest hits? Because she probably should do another album of stuff. I know albums don't exist anymore, but still. Just live to tell. No, no. Oh, this is a, I'm mad at this country, but I'll just find a little observation and then we're getting to problematic jams as every day goes by. Okay. And we close the word. There comes a time when we heed a certain call When the world is crying

There comes a time when we heed a certain call When the world is crying The documentary is really good though. It's really good. It's really good watching. I just love, we lost Waylon. Okay, so the documentary did- I ain't singing no Swahili shit. I don't know why we, maybe we've talked about it. Maybe it's obvious, but it's worth pointing out that there was a mega, was it 85? What year, 85?

Yep, January 5. There was a worldwide superstar not invited to participate in this song, We Are The World. An American superstar that didn't get an invitation to record on this song. We talk about the slights for Te We Are The World, an American superstar that didn't get an invitation to record on this song. We talk about the slights for Tears Are Not Enough, particularly Cam Gordon and I. But, I mean, this is gonna be an obvious statement,

but it's worth revisiting the fact that the call did not go to Madonna. Madonna was not invited. I thought you were gonna say Prince. They wanted Prince. That's right. That's in the doc. They couldn't get Prince. They wrote a part for Prince. That's right. He just didn't, he was very Prince-y about it. Madonna was not a prince Prince they wanted they wrote a part for Prince. That's right. He just didn't he was very

Yeah, yeah you and that really took QE to the next level. I mean right apart from Madonna sports had already come out I just there's a What's the name of that fucking pocket? There's a popular podcast that just sort of talked about Madonna's a hit machine 80s like she was just pumping out these top 10 hits or whatever, but she did not get invited to participate in We Are The World, which is interesting. That was a megastar in 85. Yeah. Yeah. Is it ever touched upon? And it's not, they don't, they don't mention it. And I don't think they mentioned in the doc, you could probably do a whole documentary on why she wasn't. You know, when we think of the 80s, we think, well, we think a lot of people, but primarily you think Michael Jackson and Madonna.

Yeah. Yeah. Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, Tina Turner. Do we know for a fact that she was not? And Cyndi Lauper was there. Yeah. We know she wasn't. Do we know Madonna was not invited?

Like, I believe I read this somewhere. Really? You believe you read it? Yeah. All right. I believe I read it somewhere. But yeah, Tears Are Not Enough is a better song I think. football coach the way you got me playing the field so baby give me that Let me get it running my throw

Bob I'm looking in the eyes. How do you feel right now? Hearing this in headphones reminds me of a certain DJ gig I had for a long time. It was a bit of a this is a bit of a killer at the adult club I used to DJ at in this hood. Yeah. Yeah, it's not there anymore. But yeah, yeah, I know. They told me to stop coming. That's true.

We had to they had to move because you just kept coming into the place of just watching everybody talk about this right. Swinger's Club, Bob's the DJ. Two minute walk from here. I DJ'd at a Swinger's Club for years. No way. Yeah. Yeah.

I got to know them because they participate. Did I participate in playing the music? Yes. I got to know the owners because they advertised on Proud FM. Really? And yeah. And I started and it was the best DJ gig ever for a lot of reasons, not the least of which most DJ gigs they expect you to be a promoter as well.

This one, this place promoted itself. I just had to go in and show up. That's it. Wow. It was great. Wow. So this is our gateway to problematic jams. OK, because I actually had this on my list because I think this is a great fucking song. And R. Kelly's a piece of shit. And I actually realized as I was preparing my notes and Yeah. R Kelly's a piece of shit. And I actually realized as I was preparing my notes and stuff that he is such a piece of shit.

It's not even fun to kick it out as a problematic jam. No. So I pulled it. I pulled it. So it's a gateway. Yeah. No, he's not a, he's not a good human being. Yeah. He's so awful.

There's not even a fuck it. I like the song. I'm going to play it. Like Chris Brown for me. I heard Chris Brown's the same. I can't even, I don't, I don't. D when I DJ, I never played a Chris Brown song. Yeah. Fuck that guy. Like I hate it. That guy. So this is a problematic jam as far as I'm concerned.

And that prior to knowing the, uh, knowing more about R Kelly, when I heard this song, in fact, I kicked in like a reflex action here. My heart rate starts going like I'm going to start dancing. This is fucked. I think this is a great fucking single. It is a great single. It is a great pop song. Great pop R&B song.

Fuck this guy. What year did this come out? What'd you say? I don't have it off the top of my head. While Bob does that, I'm going to just a little mind blow on it, not a mind blow, but just a fun fact, I suppose. And then. Oh, two. OK. 23 years ago. So did you ever wonder why it's the ignition remix? Because there's actually an ignition. I never heard until this weekend. Like I'd

never heard ignition by R Kelly. That's the ignition remix. This is ignition, the original version that you never hear in the wild doesn't have the thickness it's just never mind okay so so just to recap maybe we put a little trigger warning so we're gonna play problematic jams I should have done this earlier because some people don't want to hear ignition remix and it's too late now and some people don't really want to hear they don't want to hear this right here. with Quincy Jones. I have. Bill Cosby sings album. Yeah. Yeah. Is this on it? I think so.

Yeah. It's called Dope Pusher. Yeah. Oh. It's Bill Cosby. I have all kinds of good things that will one day have you in pain and agony. Yeah, I bet you do. But you can look at him right in the face and you can say this song to him I don't need no bad drugs like okay so Bill Cosby's literally

singing a song Jesus about drugs and are bad for you. I don't need no bad drugs. That's problematic for many reasons. Can you guys watch the show? The Cosby show? I don't even know. Well, I wouldn't be watching it anyway. Yeah, I don't go to my way to watch it anyways. But I did watch The Naked Gun on the weekend and OJ Simpson's in it. And I laughed and enjoyed it.

So I like The Cosby show more. I could do a Seinfeld or something. I could still watch it But fuck Bill Cosby. Fuck R. Kelly. We loved the Cosby show in the 80s. We loved it so much And I saw him a lot. I saw him with George Benson. Did you? At this grandstand here at the C&E Mike I went with my dad and my grandfather. Wow. It's one of my favorite memories. I saw him in the Late in the 2010s. I saw him in the late in the twenty tens. I saw him perform. He wasn't very good. No, he didn't, but he was still storytelling then and he was storytelling, but not so funny. Like he

thought, like I think he was one of those people where you're like it's bill Cosby. It's like it's kind of cool, but we kind of left going. It wasn't really that good actually, like in hindsight, you know, but I loved his records when I was eleven years old. I still have them all. I haven't put them on in a long time. It's they're problematic. Can you, you know, I remember the one of everything by Bill Cosby is now problem. That's what I mean. Yeah. So it's like, can you listen to the Noah bit or the dentist or all the Spanish flea bit? Well, that's the most.

That's the craziest one. Spanish fly. Oh, yes. Spanish flea is there was a little Spanish homer singing. But can you listen to those bits? Yeah, a Seinfeld was on with he's on Colbert and Colbert says he can't really always. Yeah, Colbert's very catholic. You know he's actually he's like I cannot separate the art from the art. That's right and Jerry's like no, no, no, it's good. It's still funny. That's it. Jerry's also a different. I think Jerry's actually in real life as an asshole. I think he's a darker person.

Yeah. Right. And, um, um, I actually, and he was like, yeah, no, he was, it's, it's still, he's still the funniest comedian ever. Whether we, no matter what he did, uh, I still enjoy Louis CK, Louis CK has gone out of his way though, to at least address it in the bit where he does address it is actually really funny. I've never listened to it. Oh, I should listen to it. It's really funny. And, and you know what he, yeah, quite a ride. And you know, he's not like, he admits that he was wrong. And he was like, I don't know if he's remorseful admitting something's wrong. Doesn't mean you're remorseful, right? But I still think he's funny too. So this will be a very enlightening 90 minutes we're going to spend together here

because we're going to kick out our problematic jams. We'll debate whether they are problematic and why you think it's problematic. I think the question about, well, I mean, we've sort of, are we done with Michael Jackson as well? Like unless you want to say something. Well, yeah, because no one, none of us, spoiler alert, none of us kick out of Michael Jackson. No. Okay. Good. That's why I played it. But the idea of, of Michael Jackson was, is like one of the first people that people talk about as a problematic, right? Because he's got such good music, such, good. That's why I played it. But the idea of Michael Jackson is like one of the first people

that people talk about as problematic, right? Because he's got such good music. Such good music. It's easy not to play Chris Brown because I don't like his music. He was the easiest guy for me not to listen to. But to say don't listen to Michael Jackson is really tough because his songs are so... So I worked on this musical. There's a musical now running on Broadway called MJ.

Right. Biographical about Michael Jackson. And you worked on it. I worked on the workshop like seven years ago. Wow. For like a few years in a row, I was part of the team, like the music team working on this thing. Did you have a credit? No. No.

No, I was just playing in the band. Oh, okay. But my friend was doing the arrangements and stuff. Oh, okay, okay. So every time they were doing workshops and doing new orchestrations or whatever, I would come into the workshops. Cool.

But I remember early on, they were very concerned about, like, is this gonna fly? Like, and at one point I remember thinking, oh, there's gonna be protests and the show's never gonna go. But it's been running for like three years now. They just opened it. It helps that he's dead. Sure, but the show's running.

That's a huge. But what would have happened if he had have done that run at the Staples Center? And what if he didn't die and he just killed it for those, he wanted to do 50 shows or something? I mean, there's a lot of what ifs, what if he didn't die and he just killed it for those, he wanted to do 50 shows. I mean, there's a lot of what ifs 15 years later, right? But so the fact that this musical like is one of the, it's in the top 10 Broadway. It's just opened in Australia. It's running in London. It's running in Germany.

So it's a worldwide success. And so whether he's problematic or not, audiences want to hear his music and the show doesn't directly address the accusations and the stuff it deals with with a specific time in his life before it like sort of exploded. So there's ways that they kind of, you know, were able to sort of not to avoid that topic in the show. And the show's fantastic, the dancing is fantastic. But I think there are probably people who still question

whether it's something that should exist. Oh, I know there are. There are people when I was, I can't remember what station I was at and we would play Michael Jackson. People would be like, why are you playing this guy? Mix 99.9. Maybe I can't remember where, but we would get, we would get feedback about it. And I was like, well, cause it's great. Sorry. You know what? You know, if you want to say that, you know, like Johnny cash abused his wife, like there's John Lennon, John Lennon with, you know, like there all yeah. If you want it to, if you, if we stop playing all rock stars, he wrote an auto yeah, and he just wrote an auto biography or whatever where he talked about being with women that were far too young. Yeah, like openly. So if

if problematic rock stars, we wouldn't play any music. No, you know, Smith would be banned. Yeah, we would play it like you'd play in the magic dragons, and that's it. And I mean, the problem with problematic to me, which is why it was, it was sort of, it wasn't too hard for me to think of the songs that I wanted to use. Um, but problematic is, is almost always in hindsight as well. And there's, there's a level of a problematic where you're like, yeah, of course, like you say R Kelly, you know, you're like, okay, fuck that guy. Chris Brown, whatever. Right. Right. Yeah. But to me there's a Delph like a Delta between Chris Brown who beat up Rihanna. Yeah. Okay. And R Kelly. Yeah. They're different levels of shit.

Oh, well, I mean that goes back to you could, I mean, this is where you get, this is three middle-aged white guys talking. Yeah. When the me too movement started and you had Matt Damon say, Hey, there's a difference between the R word and you know, padding somebody on the ass, right, which is true, but also not the time to say it, dude, that was the know your audience. But he survived the comment, right? Yeah, you can't have this toggle where it's like this or that. Yes, no, no, no, no, it's shades of gray. It really is. And the world is different.

Is that problematic? 50 Shades of Grey? Yes. Probably. It's just a bad movie. Yeah. I don't think I've seen it. We can't go back in hindsight and feel what people felt back then doing the things that they did. The art that came because of the culture and the society that they were around is fucking amazing music.

Well, that's people getting in trouble for tweets from 20 years not to for 10 years Yeah, you can't like the trans woman who was nominated for best. Yeah now she's an actress, right? They found Islamophobic tweets from way back in the day Now they're yeah, no exactly. So it's like I mean, it's it's never Nowhere I would say nowhere in I was able to say nowhere in history Is it was it okay to be Islam a full but except for maybe right after 229 11 people were okay with it that yeah, you know, I want it to be okay with right. Yeah, right. I'm speaking for Bob. No, I'm saying looking at

just the things that were said and one night I just saw come from away. So it was there's a there's a see what we did for America. I know right. We did yeah and now when I think of America and we, you know, we're not, this is not about that, but this all kind of was happening last time we did toes, but then it really blew up and really blew up. And next thing you know, what Toronto Mike's on CNN,

that's how much it blew up. But I feel like our closest ally is not maybe our, our, our key enemy. I think we're, yeah. But the weirdest thing of all is it's all because of one fucking thing. I'm looking at it. Like you look at the situation.

I don't think it's one guy. I think he's a fire. He got a, he won the popular vote. He was a popular vote saying, I'm going to annex the Panama canal. And he, he, he, you voted for him. You said, Hey, you know, let's give that guy another go. No, that's what we knew. To me, his instability, you're all complicit. You're for him. You said, Hey, you know, let's give that guy another go. No, that's what we knew. To me, you're all complicit. You're all complicit.

And even, even Rob Bruce is complicit. He's also the tip of an iceberg. He, I mean, Trump is the tip of an iceberg because all the people that are around him, they're like waiting for he's, he's basically their puppet, whether it's, people want to say it's Putin and Russia, but it's all the Americans, all the GOP who are supporting him and they're all complicit. Yeah, they're all complicit. So it's not a one man army down there. Okay. So we're going to get to Rob Pruess's first problem, but I will shout out, uh, Palma pasta, because they're going to

feed us at TMLX 18 on June 26th, 6 to 9 PM at Great Lakes Brewery. Your first delicious craft beer is on the house. I want to thank Brad Jones from Ridley Funeral Home. His podcast is called Life's Undertaking. I love his podcast. Thank you. I really enjoy every episode. The most recent guest was suggested by Ian Service, who listens to Life's Undertaking.

And Ian is on the live stream right now, enjoying some toast on his Monday morning. So shout out to Ian. I enjoyed Palma pasta for dinner last night with my sister and my mom. I saw that photo. God, it was good. It's good, right?

You guys missed out on some good Irish fare on Saturday. Oh yeah, no, it's good. I shared the video. Yeah, you should see the food. Happy birthday to my youngest who turned nine on Saturday. I couldn't go to all the many, many parties I was invited to Saturday. I had to say no to all of them

because I had a familial obligation. So many, it's just so popular. No, three, three, I never was invited to Saturday. I had to say no to all of them because I had a familial obligation. So many, it's just so popular. No, three, three. I never get invited to anything. And on Saturday I was invited to three different things. There's the soda bread, the pickles, the ham, the whole bit. You know, I would have popped by because I was invited to a cam Gordon thing at their estate and it's right beside you. Bob is like in the same. I would have done like back to back and then I was invited. Oh, you know, else Al Gregor, the cuddly one was performing live in Toronto.

That's right. It's the Royal pays. I got three different things I wanted to go to. So, but Morgan came first. Okay. Nick Ienies has a podcast called building Toronto skyline and much love to Nick. I need his fusion corp. They, uh, stepped up to help fuel the real talk.

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And she's hot every day and night Let her feel story about it I don't usually you said things like that 16, but when I saw you coming out of school that day That day I knew, I've got to have you I've got to have you Holy shit! Is there a problem there Gene Simmons?

Is there a problem Gene Simmons? That's Gene Simmons? How old is he when he did that song? So she comes out of high school 16, I've got to have you When I saw you coming out of school Holy shit, that's problematic Rob Thank you, thank you, thank you Wait, listen

She's been around She's 16 though Oh I love it. Whoa, no! Amazing. Is this a Kiss song? I'm shocked at Gene Simmons. Yeah, I'm not shocked.

Does this surprise you? I'm not shocked. So this is Kiss, 1977. The album was called Love Gun. Oh, that sounds like it could mean something else. This is produced by Bob Ezren, who renounced his citizenship. I know I gotta get him in the basement and I love the song. I played the song in my band when I was 11 years old. It actually is a song. You were lesson six. I was

lesson. I've never gotten, I don't, I've never understood kiss. No, you guys, you're the wrong generation. No, I know. I don't get it. And Mike McCready, who is Pearl Jam's and he's a massive kiss fan. I've just never gotten. No, you guys, it's the wrong generation. And this is a decent suit. It's totally sounds decent. When I kick out the jams of guys 10 years older than me, it's always gotta get some.

It's always kiss or Van Halen. Yeah. But I was there for like jump. Like I was there for a lot of Van Halen. No, I mean like eruption Van Halen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so this song has always been in my mind as what people would say could be problematic.

Yeah. For me, I was 12. Oh, that's perfect. So I'm like, fuck that shit. 16 is great. And so we played the song in my band and our drummer would do the middle. I don't usually say things to girls your age.

I saw you coming out of school that day. And I think now, well, yeah, we were 13. If the girl was 16, woohoo. That's funny. But in hindsight, of course, Gene was 28 when they recorded the song. Oh, this is woohoo. That's funny. But in hindsight, of course, Gene was 28 when they recorded the song. Oh, this is problematic. So it's problematic.

You should have a ruling if the other two people agree. I agree if you wrote it. Oh, yeah, that's problematic. What's funny to me now, and it's not problematic, of course, the age, so if she's 16 and he's 28, that's a 12-year difference. What's the age difference between my wife and him? Yeah, but which 12 years?

Yeah, it's exactly it. But I think it's really- See, Bob's got a few years on his lovely lady. I know. We'll try not to talk about it. I have seven on my mind, but which twelve years I it's exactly it, but I think it's got a few years on his talk about it. I have seven on my my Bob's. You know, she was sixteen. It cracks me of seventeen when we started, so you had to be twenty. I was twenty one. I was a problematic. Yeah, it was. It was probably. Yeah, I'm a groomer again. Yeah, you

yeah, yeah, that's. She stuck, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, had Dancing Queen, Young and Sweet, only 17. So there was like the whole teenage thing. 17, I think, you know, I know it's not legal. Also, it's different like hearing him say like, I need to have that. It's different than dancing.

That's right. I'm watching you walk out of the school. I'm like, that was the crew. Yeah, when I saw you walk out of the school that day. Jeez, okay, wow. There's a bit of a bonus here. Can I play this? Oh yeah, play the bonus.

And again, this is when I was listening to Christine 16. I almost blurted it into the microphone. This of a bonus here. Can I play this? Oh, yeah, but again, this is what I was listening to Christine 16 Yeah, I almost blurted it into the microphone. Yeah, the obvious here So sample famous sample of Christine 16 Also problematic jam Oh No, yeah, no Tina was a sheena was a man. This is also slipping something in a dress. The entire idea of slipping something in a dress.

It's like a roofie. This is Bill Cosby's favorite song. The girls are all around, but none of them want it. This is worse on many levels. You're playing 3D chess over here. That's the Christmas of Kings Jam. I saw Toneloke perform. This is the are. That's the Christian 16 step. Yeah. I saw Tone Locke perform.

This is the 80s in Locke is down with the ladies. I was on vacation in Myrtle Beach in like 1989. And he was in a club. Did he have a third hit? No, he just had Wild Thing and Funky Cold Medina. And he had a great verse. He had a great verse on the West Coast rap all stars. We were all in the same gang.

Really? Yes, he did I was all about those seven and a half minutes of it. Oh funny. Yeah, I love it I'm glad you brought this to the table. You can't hear Christine. I don't even know In your glass and the girls will come real quick of out of the game in your glass and the girls will come real quick. That's right. That's probably better than any. All right.

Rob, Bob, let's turn to kick out his first problematic jam. Any words before I press play? No, just do it. Right now, his's probably slow dancing with a bleach blonde tramp and she's probably getting thirsty Right now, he's probably buying her some fruity little drink cause she can't shoot whiskey Right now, he's probably up behind her with a blue stick showing her how to shoot a combo And he don't know I dug my key into the side of this pretty little souped up four wheel drive

Carved my name and who is let it cease I took a Louisville slugger to both headlights And lashed our home and all four tires And maybe next time I'll bang before he cheats All right, Carrie Underwood. I love this song. It's one of the best pop songs. What's it called? It's called Before He Cheats. Oh's a great song. I think I only know two Carrie Underwood songs. This is one of them. This and Jesus Take the Wheel. Those are the two big ones. So Carrie Underwood, of course, one idol in 2005. She was, uh, it was, which season was it? Uh, fourth. She

was the fourth season. She married to a Canadian, Mike Fisher, right? Yeah. He used to play for the eight. Oh really? Yeah. Uh, predators. Now here's the pro... Like, I legit love this song. I think it's a wonderfully written pop song. Okay, tell us why it's problematic. Because she performed at fucking Trump's inauguration. Oh, thank you. That's why it's problematic. I don't want to support her. I don't want to give her spins. Yeah, that's why it's problematic. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Nothing about the song. It's because of who she is. so is Snoop Dogg problematic yeah because he performed at the no because I think soup Snoop Dog

is well, that's the Snoop Dogg did it for the money. She would did it because she why is that any less problem like I mean so he did it for the money. He didn't care what he was you know supporting yeah and I guess he didn't need the money. So yeah, I mean I don't really listen to a lot of Snoop Dog anyway. No, I had Andy Wilson over. Snoop Dogg's got personality though and personality goes a long way. That's a pulp fiction. Yes, it is. Andy Wilson was here and he said, you know, he still pumps the kid rock

right like he loves kid rock. That's his that's his boy. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about Andy. I told him the truth, which is I was also a Kid Rock fan. I saw him live, I had the big album anyways, and I liked even some later stuff, American Badass and stuff, I dug it for some reason. And the duet with Sheryl Crow? Picture, big time, yeah. But, but, Kid Rock is very problematic,

and Carrie Underwood, I would agree, now problematic. She is endorses donald. I said my mom loves country music, so I gave my mom tickets to see her and stuff, but I can't do it now. Let me ask you this bob will let and rob pruss is the pursuit of happiness is gretzky rocks problematic now. Well, I mean, I mean, I would never put it on as well. Like it's got to be problematic now because the song is basically our hero, the the greatest player of all time, greatest hockey player of all time. We're putting him on this pedestal and praising him in song. Yeah, when Gretzky rocks, no, he doesn't love letter to win Gretzky, but Wayne Gretzky who goes to

Mar a logo wears the mega, is a friend of Donald Trump, hasn't said a single word in support of the sovereignty of this fine nation that produces it. His silence speaks volumes. It's screaming in my ear, Rob. It would be a problem for me if I hadn't already heard some pretty not nice things about Wayne. Really? Yeah.

So you're not surprised? Well. Politically? No, just as a human being I've heard what have you heard Bob no I just heard he's he's you know it's just not as clean cut it tell us later by the tree yeah yeah I mean I have some friends I have some friends in the you know in the broadcast industry on the hockey side I've had some friends along the way and I've just heard that Wayne's not Mr. Canada you know he's he's just not. I mean also he's American. How he's lived in America probably longer than he has Canada now. So what kind of person wants to go to fucking Mar a Lago and hang out with the premiere of Alberta? Fuck

them all. Kevin O'Leary, I knew like I don't have a fucking O'Leary. You got a lot of time on cross Canada check up with him and Hanna Mansing when they were talking about right. Don't call Kevin, call Toronto. Mike. Yes. Oh exactly. I speak for the people. So yeah. So I mean, I wasn't like, I, I'd never put anything except for that song on of Carrie Underwood, but no, I won't do it anymore. No, I do. But I do really, it's a great song. She's a great singer. What about three doors down? You still kick out the crypt? I have never, I have never put a three doors down song on in my life. Super may I get mad if something shows up in a playlist that

three doors down when I'm gone like they had a but they had a good series though, but I'd never let I hated all of them always there, but are they problematic or just don't like the music? Well, they're like imitation pro jam. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like a no name brand. It's like when you make a copy of a copy and he loses a little bit of the right. What do you think a silver chair? Not a lot of silver, but that's because people criticize them for being a nirvana copy. No, I would say they were inspired by I would say who just said Kurt no hurt had died when they know. I think silver chair is one

of the they were one of the first bands that I would say were growing up as fans of those of of nirvana. What about stone temple pilot same? I said was so double pilot plush a lot of the first time you remember when plush broke the first album. I would say definitely there was some. There was some label influence on no, you know, get I am I am I am you know exactly what I want to be, but that band was good enough. The De Leo brothers and and Scott Wyland is one of the was one of the best front men ever. I don't care. I think by the second and third up by

the time they got going and you could hear it in the first. Yeah, the first time I feel like it was there was some push to sound like a certain first time I heard plush. It did sound like is Pearl. I mean Pearl Jim had a song called garden. They had wicked garden like it was. Oh yeah, no, it was like okay, I wanna run through your wicked God. He had that voice, but sex type thing was a fucking jam though. Love sex. I am smelling like a rose. Is that like, he, me, um, yeah, you guys singing the song. Oh my gosh. I know. Oh, so don't tell us. I love still. I've, I'm several times. I never, uh, I never thought, you know, in

retrospect, yeah, you can hear that there was a, uh, an attempt to sound like a certain way, but I still think that their musicianship came through and their artistry came through. Have you listened to Billy Corgan's podcast or watched it? I have not really good. I said it yeah, it's a he's had he had Gene Simmons on oh cool. Actually, you need to watch the jeans. Okay, he had Gene Simmons on. He had Ozzie's wife, Sharon Osborne, and he also had a, he had a Wolfgang van Halen. Oh cool. Yes. It's all good, man. What's all good is what's happening in the live stream is blowing up here.

So I'll start with a, let's see. Jeremy Hopkins shouts out you're 16. You're beautiful in your mind, which was first performed by Johnny Burnett. When he was 26 years old, Canada, Kev says, fuck Carrie Underwood, fuck Snoop Dogg, fuck Jewel. I didn't even know Jewel was on this. Oh, that's right, I forgot. Fuck Kid Rock. Andy says, I've always hated Carrie Underwood,

but Snoop was a punch in the gut. Okay, and then Moose Grumpy agrees of Andy, and especially after the Olympics Snoop, because I guess everybody fell in love with Snoop Dogg at the Olympic games in Paris. Moose was scared by your pick, Bob, because she loves the anthem feel of that song for women who have been screwed over.

So she should be happy. Oh, I love the song. That's where she thought you were going. No, no, no, I think the song is terrific. I think she's an idiot. Well, Canada brings up a good point. And I've had them on the program and they're great. Does Dwayne Gretzky now regret their bad

They should you know what they should take advantage of it change their name and make a huge deal out of it Yeah, take advantage of some of the press. I like J-host comment. I don't know why people expected Snoop to be okay He's a former pimp and gang Is there a problem with that but hey nothing's wrong with that That's problematic to have that opinion J-host says I also recall there being issues with Carrie Underwood hey, nothing's wrong with that. Well, that's a, that's problematic to have that opinion. J. Hosses. I also recall there being issues with Carrie Underwood being racist and homophobic as well. I feel like I've heard that too. This is where Lauren Honigman says I need to say allegedly allegedly. Thank you Lauren for that reminder here. You want me to

kick out a big fucking jam from one of the biggest bands of all time? That's problematic. Yeah. Is this your first? This is my first jam. I want to as soon as you said that I knew it was gonna be this you literally just say is it brown shit? I literally big fucking jam alert. I told Mike Go cold slave, she bound the cotton fields Toed in the market down in New Orleans God old slave, I know he's doing alright. Heard him whip the women just around midnight. Brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Oh, it gets worse.

Brown sugar, just like a young girl should. Holy fuck. Okay, so the obvious is that problematic lyrics aside, what a fucking great song. Yes, what a great song. I don't know what those words were until just her night now. Well, no, when I was, my oldest was like two or three or four, I was listening to Hot Rocks a lot. Yes. I went through the same.

Love Hot Rocks a lot. Yes. I went through the same. Love Hot Rocks. And they loved Get Off My Cloud. My kids have always loved it. Because I used to sing the lyrics, Get Off My Clown. Hey, you. Yeah. But I used to change it to Get Off My Clown. And they thought that was hilarious.

But when it came to Brown Sugar, they're like, what's this song about? And I said, baking. Oatmeal. Exactly. Baking. I thought it was Brown Sugar when I was a kid. All right, so God, what do you know what the original name for this song was? So before they named it Brown Sugar, do you know what they were calling the song?

Mick Jagger wrote it by the way. I could make so many inappropriate jokes, but I'm not going to. The original name of this song was Black Pussy. Really? Well, there you go. Which is a little too on the nose. Come on, guys. So so before they released this on Sticky Fingers, what a great album that is. They rename this song Brown Sugar. What were you gonna say, Bob? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

So it's about slavery, rape, drug use, you know, your typical pop song, 60s jam here. Brown Sugar. How come you taste so good? Got me feeling now for brown sugar, just like a black girl should. Yeah. Okay. So it's a lot of problematic elements to this, but.

Speaking of heart racing earlier. But you know what? Even as you're describing all this subject matter, I'm like in my head all of a sudden, I thought every rap song is problematic to me today. Well, right. I was thinking about that too. For my generation, which is a little bit ahead of your generation. I turn off every rap song is problematic to me today. Well, right. I was thinking about that, too. For my generation, which is a little bit ahead of your generation, I turn off every rap song. No, not every rap song.

But 99.9% of rap songs have problematic lyrics to me. I would say 98%. We've got to introduce Rob to Public Enemy. I love Public Enemy. I love Public Enemy. But you're uncomfortable with language in general, though, I think. Only in the context of music, because I want to listen to music and I want to hear cool like like people Always say to me you gotta listen to

Kanye's like production is so cool and I'm like I put it on just true and he's also problematic He's totally problematic to me the first time I hear a bitch or a hoe or the n-word I'm like, I don't even give a shit anymore. How cool the music is. I'm not interested. Well, that would be no Kendrick Lamar out that guy drops the bitch bitch all like every second, but he does, but he also does something magical to me. There's every time I see my heart, take it that I find him very uninteresting and boring as an artist. There's something you don't live in the state to pimp. A butterfly was a good album. Yes, since then I've been disappointed. Yeah, yeah, apparently

he was. You were saying, what does he do? That's every time I've seen him perform on TV, like he's been on Colbert and he's been on Jimmy. Yeah, yeah. Apparently he was- You were saying, what does he do that's interesting? Well, every time I've seen him perform on TV, like he's been on Colbert, and he's been on Jimmy Fallon, I think, and he does something on those TV performances that really moves me. Oh, good. And I don't understand it.

Wow, I'm surprised. Yeah, me too. I'm always surprised when I see him, and I'm like, I don't know what that is, but there's something he's doing. He's got a presence or something, yeah. But certainly he's censoring himself when he's on television as well. Oh, he has to, oh yeah, I don't know.

So maybe it's because he's cutting out some of the topics as well. Now, when he's on television. Oh, yes, do oh, yeah So maybe it's because he's cutting out some of the some of the topics as well No, when Mick Jagger wrote the song he was dating Marcia Hunt who was a poster girl for the black is beautiful movement Oh, and that was an inspiration for him. But so his heart was in the right place In 95 he basically admitted to Rolling Stone that he wouldn't write that today. Yeah, it was seemed embarrassed about it He would censor himself and he had crazy lyrics on a lot of songs on the some girls album, which came out in 77 or 78. There were lyrics on the song, some girls like in the fade out, like we're really raunchy,

like disrespectful kind of things. And I remember even as a kid listening, thinking, that's kind of weird. And I just sort of let it fly by. Start me up. If you can make a dead man come. I mean, that's a right. That's, that's kind of raunchy. Now I want to install windows 95 when I hear start me up. Yeah, but okay.

So they no longer perform brown sugar live. So the stones got the message and said, this is problematic. They no longer perform brown sugar when they tour in. And I wonder when the last time they did it live was there. They recorded this by the way in a mushel shoals muscle.. Muscle Shoals has a great documentary about Muscle Shoals in 1969, December 1969. They did, I mean, talk about the slavery. Yeah, Gold Coast Slave Ship bound for cotton fields, sold in a market down in New Orleans. A scardled slaver knows he's doing all right. Hear him whip the women just around midnight brown sugar. How come you taste so good crazy? So if that song didn't have such a rockin beat to it, those lyrics are pretty powerful. I was going to say it sounds like he's telling a story like really lyricists. You know

they're trying to tell you know, you wonder if you had what that you know the rebert of flack song that we had that was nice and empty and and and you know had this atmospheric thing. If you take those lyrics and you put them to something like that, it becomes almost a protest song or reverse it. What if what if you're listening to those to the brown sugar lyrics like all mellow like her? That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody should do that. They should have kept the name black pussy. Yeah, it's like, have you heard the Sunday's cover of wild horses? Yes, right. It's they take wild horses

and bring it right down. Anyway, there is an alternate version. I'll give you a little detail about the alternate version, but this is the alternate version. It was recorded in 1970 in London. It was a birthday party for Keith Richards and Bobby keys, Al Cooper on piano, Eric Clapton ever heard of him. He's on slide guitar. Is it slide guitar or steel guitar? Same thing or different? They're different. Oh, you could play electric guitar but with a tubey thing?

Oh, that's true. Who's backing up? Not too certain about that, but I can tell you he did make a change. So that line, I hear him whip the women just around midnight. Before he stopped playing the song entirely, he'd replace it with, you should have heard him just around midnight. So he did a little mop up. And I got to shout out my buddy Hayden, Hayden Desser, who revealed, he talked about, you

know, when he was pretty young when he wrote Bad As It Seems, which is a great fucking song. That's why this hat here says says things are as bad as they seem. And he sings the line, of course, girl of my dream seems as bad as it seems, loved a girl who's 16, that's why she's only a dream. And then when he sings that song in concert now, he changes it to love a girl who's 23 That's why she's only a dream. So when you up the girl from 16 to 23 less problematic here

All right. What do you want to say about your oh, I have one more thing Okay, and this is gonna be me taking things full circle because you'll hear more from this album Yeah, who here watched UHF from weirdo? Yeah, Sure, of course. I know I'm in good company here. Of course you did. But I love my UHF. First time I saw Michael Richards. What a great fucking movie that is. On the soundtrack to UHF is a song called the Hot Rocks Polka for Bob and I who loved Hot Rocks. If I could sing a love song so divine Would it be enough for your cheating heart If I broke down and cried If I cry-y-y-y I know it's only rock and roll but I like it

I know it's only rock and roll but I like it, like it Yes I do, it's in a row Really, really, really, really, do-do-do-do Hey! Go home, slave ship bound for cotton fields. So good. So good. And here we are.

Brown Sugar. Hey, you got a good fact check on the live stream. Tell me. 1236. August 30, 2019 was the last Brown Sugar performance. Wow, they played it up till then. Yeah. And that was also Charlie Watts' last show.

Aw. Brown Sugar! So he was the guy who loved Brown Sugar so much. OK, so here, this is the fun fact, is I will play another song from this very Weird Out Yankovic album. So two times I'll have mind blows that are related to Weird Out in the very same UHF

soundtrack album mode ever. So this is the Hot Rocks Polka. There's no wine in her hand. I knew she would meet her connection. At her feet was a footloose man. Rob, any words before I kick out your second jam? No, my second jam is... it is what it is. Having my baby, what a lovely way of saying how much you love me. Having my baby, what a lovely way of saying what you're thinking of me. I can see it, your face is glowing I can see it in your eyes, I'm happy and knowing

That you're having my baby You're the woman I love and I love what it's doing to you You're having my baby, you're having my baby You're having my baby, you're having my baby You're having my baby love and I love what it's doing to you. Having my baby. You're a woman in love and I love what's going through you. The need inside you, I see it showing. Oh the seed inside you baby, do you feel it growing? I'm having my baby.

I'm having my baby. I'm a woman in love and I love what it's doing to me. I'm having my baby. Oh, here's an anti-abortion jam. It really is. Anti-choice. I mean, oh, well, it's a choice. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy, right?

It's pro-life. And to me, it's problematic only in the way of in hindsight. I'm like, this would never get played on the radio. Of course now. Wow. 1974. So many reasons. I know.

So, but see when I was trying to think of these songs, my songs were very, very sort of centric to my childhood. Yeah. Because I feel like I lived in an era that people look in hindsight and go, how did that ever get over? What were you guys thinking? What was happening there?

People look at kids shows from the early seventies and they're like, those dudes were high as a kite when they created these HR puff and stuff and the Croft super shows and stuff. You know why I first heard this song? No. WKRP in Cincinnati, it was played on WKRP and that's the first time I ever heard. She's having my baby. I think Dr. Johnny fever. But in hindsight, I feel like the fact that a song, a pop song, which is like a schmaltzy pop

song can be on the radio talking about abortion, saying you could have done, you didn't have to keep it. You know, you love me so much. you're having my baby, whatever. But like, that was the era of Roe v. Wade just being passed and all that kind of stuff. So it was topical and yet you put a Schmaltzy, it's in a Schmaltzy ballad, you know? It was voted the worst song of all. Cringiest song of all time. Yeah, but it's CanCon though.

Mine is CanCon though. It's CanCon. It's totally CanCon. It's totally CanCon, for sure. We'll hear it on Indie88. That's right. That's right. Okay, play number two A, I just discovered this.

I will. I will just quickly because East York John says that you guys ask who's on background vocals for Brown Sugar. I mean, black pussy. Uh huh. It was Keith Richards according to East York. Even that version that that second version sounded like, so like a woman, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I knew that. No, I know. I meant, I meant on the second, the, the, the live version that you said was at Keith, you know, you, you asked the question during the first version. No, I didn't. I asked it during the second,

if only I recorded this during the second, we'll go back to replay. All right. Here's a bonus. I discovered this came out the same year, 1974 on the country charts. What do you hear that one? Having your baby. Having your baby. Is another way of saying that I love you. It's like a weak Dolly Parton voice. Having your baby. Having your baby.

Is another way of saying what I'm thinking of. OK, play number 2B now. That's enough of that. Yeah. I know. I'm digging it. No, you're not. Yeah, dig it. Let's bury it. So in those days, people would do cover versions around the world. Everybody would record in other languages. So this is some German dude singing it. I just thought it was... You always go with the Germans. I always do. I think it's funny. Because he's a proud German man. I know he is. But listen how funny it is. That's a problematic country, right?

Not now. Not now. So people would take a song, so the Germans would be like, oh my God, this song is a huge hit in America. Quickly they'd make their own version. But in those days, like bands would consciously make new versions. ABBA released a bunch of their songs,

sung in German, sung in Spanish. The Beatles even did, the Beatles did, Sie liebt dich, ja. They do it in Quebec all the time, English and French. Yeah. Yeah, cause they have Francon. Yeah, yeah. Sie liebt all unsere Liebegeber.

But German is always funny, it always sounds funny for pop songs. So, the EP of Sales comes through again. So when I said I first heard you're having my baby on WKRP, EP reminds me it was the pilot episode. No way. Which I fucking love that pilot episode. I'm going to watch that again. Because he's like, give it to me straight doctor. I can take it.

So the hallelujah Tabernacle choir with their beautiful rendition of you're having my baby. Because they changed. Remember they were like music of your life. And then remember Andy Travis comes in and then the play like the Who, Kiss. That's right. Yeah. They're going to switch it over. Switch it over. Here's what Arthur Carlson's mom says. You know, we're going to get some listeners here. Okay, play 2C. By the way, Peter Gabriel's third album had a release all in German.

Yes, it did. It's a German album. It's unbelievable. Games Without Frontiers in German is so cool. Paul Anka says, you're having my baby. It's not meant to alienate anyone. I could have called it having our baby. The other just sounded better. It's not a male ego trip or anything. There is something special about a woman who will have your baby.

Yeah, but it's not your baby. It's your baby together. Yeah, but it's still your baby. It's not your, you're not the sole fighter of this baby. Have you heard Jim Gaffigan's thing about having a baby? He thing about having babies like yeah I had a bit I didn't have to do anything I just had sex yeah I do it again there's the Catholic guy whose baby yeah was as I run through the phone so whose baby is that what's your angle I'll buy that that's a Flintstone that he's in that yeah Fred Flintstone is in

the boardroom and they all you have to say is this, whose baby is that? What's your angle? I'll buy that. Right? Who dis? This is a band called the Coolies. See, Bob accuses me of, I like to bring in the fun fact mind blows of covers. But yeah.

Of songs. You're doing it. Every once in a while, if there's covers, I'm always surprised to hear them. This is a band called The Cooleys. In 86, they released some album. They were from Atlanta. Is that a problematic name? The Cooleys?

Maybe not. What does it mean? I don't know. I don't know. Does it have racist connotation? ["The Cooleys"] That you're having my baby. It just sounds like an alternative indie band

I thought was funny to hear them doing it. Yeah, of course. Like when, is it Sonic Youth that does the Carpenter's song? Yeah. It's amazing, right? Yeah, that whole Carpenter's Trivium is so cool. Such neat people do it. I didn't know that coolie was a term for low wage laborers. I didn't know that. Well, I have all the slurs on my...

I was going to say, yeah, you've got it right here. Yeah, I didn't know that. Well, I have all the slurs on my... What I was gonna say, yeah, you got it right here. Yeah, I didn't know that. I've never heard that. So, that's the thing, as you start to, you know, pick at the straws, you realize 80% of popular music is problematic. Yeah. Oh, sure. Baby. All right, here we go.

A big, okay. I don't think, I think we should turn down Rob Crews' thing. I was gonna say, be prepared to be uncomfortable. Oh, I'm ready. I'm turning down your headphones. No, I'm ready. your head for your own good. I want to hear it all because you'll be upset. You're going to be, this is going to be a car. Hang on. I'm going to open up my second. And it's a great jam. Great lakes brewery. I'm listening to the music and this is so many. This is absolutely problematic. And when this thing first came out, I got to say, man, I was bumping that. Let's go. Let's go

Yeah, I like this oh, yeah, you like it now wait till you hear the lyrics Move over ignition remix First niggas gotta find me. What's 50 grand to a motherfucker like me? Can you please remind me? Mission remix Balls or Hubs since we here, Sony right that we be fair Psycho, I'm livo, that go Michael, take your pick Jackson, Tyson, Jordan, Game 6 Balls or Hubs got a broke clock, rollies that don't tick-tock All the mods that's losing time, hitting behind all these big rocks Balls or Hubs, I'm shocked too, I'm supposed to be locked up too You escape but I escape, you being Paris getting fucked up too Balls or Hubs her let's get faded

Liberties for like six days gold bottles so my sick day Hey, just might let you meet gay shot town see Rose moving the next BK That's great That's the correct That's your crap For your bar come and meet me in the bathroom stop and show me why you deserve to have it all got she cranked

hey you, the hit's hurting what she order? fish filet yo whip so cold this whole thing act like you ever be around motherfuckers like this again bougie girl, grab my hand fuck that bitch, she don't wanna dance

she's my prince when I'm in France I'm just sayin' Prince Williams ain't do it right, if you ask me Cause I was him, I would've married Kate and Ashley Was Gucci my nigga? Was Louis my killer? Was drugs my dealer? What's that jacket, Margiela? Doctors say I'm the illest

Cause I'm sufferin' from realness Got my niggas in Paris And we goin in gorillas Yeah, I don't know what that means What a sample what an obscure what random like it's blades of steel All right, can I guess the name of the song? Yeah, is it called that shit cray? No, it's called it's a more problematic. Yeah, it's called N-Words in Paris. But with a Z. With a Z.

This is a coordinate distinction. Jay-Z and Kanye West together did an album called Watch the Throne. And this is the main track from it. No, the main track is Otis. Oh no, but this is the jam. The first big track from that album was Otis. But this is also fucking great. But this was the- Otis samples Otis spreading. But I'm just saying-

Great debate over what's the main track from the last two. This is the jam of all jams. It's a pretty cool song. If you wanna get a party going, this was like the new version of Poison by Belbiv Devo. Like da da da da. You open that opening line, just like boom, that opening just a problematic Bell Biv Devoe have problematic lyrics.

Oh, my God. So problematic to me has problem. I did a whole bit on in the eighty eight about it that very same day that I can find this on my radio dial at eighty eight point one FM. I played part of poison and I played part of do me on the air. Did you? Yes, and it's all actually you can find it. I think on my face book right now. I actually kept the bit because I was so no. You know what? It's actually on scott turners because he posted about it was the thirty fifth anniversary of the poison coming up by velvet of oh and I commented on it and then I stole his idea and I because that's what we do on radio and I talked about anyway so this look I

would I could have picked any of Kanye songs that tell us why that you find that to be a problematic jam well the title is very problematic it's got the n-word in it yes the title is very problematic the subject matters actually not that bad in there like there's not it's not you know it's not that bad Kanye of course being a coat like you can't play in a semi yeah is that stuff and he'll self professed anti yes yeah selling Nazi shirts you know so it's a shirt he sells it sucks because I think you know obviously there's twisted dark fantasy and I actually really like to use this. I thought he uses a great album

as far as again production in you and start fancy listen to production these songs and you he works with great people. He's, he's got great collaborators. He's good at picking that seventies jam and pitching it up or whatever. And he also suddenly it's a new banger. Yeah. And well in like half of Jay Z's hits were produced by Kanye. He was a producer first. He ha you know, and then, you know what? I'll be honest, Jay Z's not without controversy as well. There's all kinds of, although that woman did drop the lawsuit. No, but there's other things, you know what I'll be honest, Jay Z's not without controversy as well. There's all kinds of things. Although that woman did drop the lawsuit.

No, but there's other things, you know, maybe it's, you may have gone down too much of a Tik Tok algorithm, but, um, his association with Diddy is not, it's not clean cut. Everyone too close to Diddy is now problematic. Yeah. Yeah. You know, um, cause you would know what was going on. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's, yeah. I mean, look at Ellen DeGeneres. She's glad you mentioned Diddy cause I think of our Kelly Diddy and then Michael Jack. These are artists with big hits that like you can't.

I believe I can fly. Okay is on the the what's the loony tunes play? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We kicked out space gems last time. That's right. That's right. Holy shit. But I'm glad you called out P Diddy because even the lyric to TikTok by Kesha, you know, opens with P Diddy drop the name. And now even when that's a banger jam too, and there's a whole problematic part with Dr. Luke. Yes. In his relationship with Kesha and that song is problematic.

But that P Diddy, which by the way, the Simpsons open an episode because I've watched it with my now nine-year-old daughter She's nine years old. You know, she's very excited about that Opens with a the P did the the tick-tock opening in there Right brush your teeth of a bottle of Jack or whatever and Jack is now problematic because they make that in the US of fucking hate It's off the shelves. That's some good up USA is probably good for if you're missing your bourbon. I have some good Canadian alternative for you like yeah, I'm a great legs, dear man, myself, there you go. No, so you know, so and then of course, I don't know if you remember, do you remember the

controversy of going of Gwyneth Paltrow in Paris live streaming and Instagramming that that show? No, you don't remember this, so she's there. I think she might even still have been with Chris Martin problematic because she sells a non science goop. Yeah. Oh, goopy to vulnerable women. Yeah, right. But she doesn't have music. So and candle, but she was married to a musician. Yes. So she is made apple. Yes. Very good. Now you and the royal Tenenbaum's features. Do you have a tick right now? You do. And Gene Hackman was in that. That's where I saw it's a really good. And it's my favorite movie by that director. Uh,

that, um, Wes Anderson, Wes Anderson guy. Uh, I just want, she was, so they were in Paris, so they were doing the tour, the watch the throne tour and they did that song 12 times in a row. Yes, yes. And I'm gonna listen to it when I'm driving home today too. It's a jam. Yeah, it's really good. But you're okay with the N word in there? Cause they don't censor the N word.

No, a little bit. They don't have to. Yeah, I mean, I mean, it was in passing right there. I didn't feel like it was. This is the album version of the radio. This is the album version? Yes, that was the album version. The N word is said, you okay with that?

I'm okay with it. It's fine, I'll let it gloss over. I think it's more the subject matter, I think. I don't know. This is the album version. Yes, that was the end word is said. You're okay with that. I'm okay with it. It's fine. I'll let it gloss over. I think it's more the subject matter. I think I feel like with you. I don't know. Can I have a question? Yeah, our faith, one of our favorite movies of all time. You alluded to it earlier as Pulp Fiction. Quentin Tarantino drops the N word. Yeah, I know he's a white guy. Yeah, it was ninety four. It was thirty five ninety four because it's ninety four because it's ninety four, not nineteen thirty four, no, but in ninety four you're saying it obviously is a problem. Of course, it's problematic now, absolutely, and was a

problematic. Then maybe Samuel Jackson didn't mind and he was there. He was in the scene yeah, but he was getting cutting a check thanks to the great quentin tarantino. He's a little biased. So you think that that's why he was okay with it. What about like movies like colors like Like there was all kinds of when you on musk promote start sponsoring the show, you'll be raving about these fucking cyber trucks, not saying when in the driveway I look yes, white people using the n word is problematic. Oh, and sorry, J Ho points out going to Peltrow. Absolutely a hit making singer duetted. That's right. Louis, I knew it earlier. knew earlier, but I was about to say, but somebody interrupted me. This is all

three D just happening. Yeah, it is. Everything I just wanted to say. She got in trouble because they performed it 12 times in a row and she took a picture and she wrote the N word out fully. You can't do that in her. So that said N word in Paris for real. Yo, she an a or an er no she used the way it was spelled for the song the az or whatever yeah yeah so make a difference oh no she had to take it down like it was like it's it's out there i'm sure you just really oh yeah i'm sure there's screenshots of it oh for sure yeah you put it out once it's there forever uh she got in trouble for it anyways it's a problematic jam everything Kanye's

problematic i could have percent i could have brought to light any of the Kanye songs that I love and I love a lot of them. I was going to do all lights. I was going to do all the lights, power, anything I love, you know, a bunch of stuff. But this walks. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Gold digger. All of them. But so problematic. I don't have, I don't have any mind blows today. I only had the three songs. So there you go. Well, you're busy on indie 88. But when you say this is the magic of problematic, there's a magic and problematic. When you, when we pick power problem, magic problem, magic,

exactly. You still like the music. You still listening to the music or do you feel guilty listening to it? I actually do. Cause I have twisted dark fantasy on vinyl and I got a new knee. I told you guys last time I got it and I put it on because I wanted to hear it in vinyl and and I actually well first of all I can't listen to it around my kids because the just so bad yeah but I was listening to it and I was like I kind of felt bad listening to it because he's such an asshole and he's an asshole but you also sort of age out of it he's more than an asshole I'm okay with asshole yeah I've been I can be an asshole but he's anti-semitic. He's a racist. Right. Yeah. So he's a racist asshole.

Like that's, if you have a hate towards somebody cause of the color of their skin or their sexuality or their religion, to me, that's a third rail. Right. Fuck you. No, you're done. I agree. And so it's hard to listen to his music now. Right now I'm having a hard time, which is okay. You know?

But, but so basically the problematic then comes back to the person and not the art. Yeah. Because it could be both things. The art is going to change in your mind. Like the artist you talk about, I mean, as an artist, you know that when you put it out there, it's not yours anymore. Right. Right. So like, and, and then the audience takes it and makes it their own and it can be whatever to them. And I've, I've talked to a bunch of different artists about that and about how, you know, it can be, you know, I had Richard Patrick from filter on and he wrote to take a picture, which was all about, you know, his sobriety and whatnot,

but it means so much to so many other people. And he said that he's like, you put it out there and it's not yours anymore. His biggest song is about a guy committing suicide on live television. Right. Right. Hey man, nice shot. Right. Actually, I would say, why are, I would argue that, uh, take a picture is a bigger song. Depends who you're talking to. Guys, right. Hey man, nice shot. Right. Actually I would say. Bud Dwyer. I would argue that take a picture is a bigger song. Depends who you're talking to. Us guys, guys like us, it's.

No, I just say way more, way more people know. Mass appeal. Way more. The soccer moms liked take my picture. It's a great song. They're both great. I don't know either of them. Hey man, nice shot is one of the great

all rock songs of the 1990s. I was gonna say borderline metal. Like it's like, it was on the cusp of metal. It's fucking great metal like it's like it was on the on the on the cusp of metal fucking great but it's about bud Dwyer and you can find the footage on YouTube if you're into watching people die on the screen you know remember the faces of death series that was big in the 80s early 90s a little bit so it was before you know, like now on you can find any gross thing you want online, right? You was there was a were you just trying to find a black bud to wire a bullet in his head? No,

I'm getting him in a shot they faces of death. There was only certain like blockbuster wouldn't have it on BHS, but you just go to movies like you want to whatever they yeah. So that's what does it's documentary and it's like footage of a public execution. Seriously. Like that. And when I was a teenager in high school, there's like these things were like the shit they're on. Some of that shit is on YouTube, right? On DVD now and you can buy them at Walmart. How weird is that? Sorry.

I was just, it was like so wires on those tapes. Okay. Because he was live press conference because he was a, in trouble for corruption at some city level. And he had a paper bag or something. And he did a little set something, took out the gun and he shot himself in the head. You can hear someone in the stand when he takes out the gun, someone's like, no!

I think I did see that. And he watched the blood just pour. Have you ever seen the one where the guy, like he takes cyanide in the courtroom? There's one where like he's accused of something and he gets a cyanide pill, he kills himself in the. I watched a couple of videos the other day on the weekend.

These are problematic. This is problematic, the things that you can find if you're searching for them and you're like, why did I watch that thing? You know, we always start with him closer to you so you can be on the same screen. He just keeps moving away from me. Yeah, Rob always moves a little to his right as he goes.

I always get the, do I need a more camera? Do I see? But so when I was a little kid, I was obsessed with Evel Knievel in the 70s. Sure. Right, doing the magical. Snake River conspiracy. All the jumps, yeah.

But there's a couple of clips of these guys who like die doing their jumps. And unfortunately, I like clicked this thing and I was like, oh, here's a guy in 1972 who tried to jump and he wiped out. And basically you watch him die. You watch him die. Yeah, but like he's a stupid stuntman.

And we've all seen Falling Man on 9-11. Yeah. We missed the 9-11. The whole documentary on that. The whole documentary. So it's our weird, we have a morbid fascination and it's problematic. Why do you think we all tuned in to watch the Ford Bronco chase?

I think everybody was- Because we didn't have YouTube then. No. Would OJ kill himself with the cops? Would there be a shootout? It was a very odd thing. Yeah, I mean, it was a celebrity, a sports celebrity. You all know where you were on that day, right?

And we were all big naked gun fans. Yeah. Yeah. Get all comes full circle. It does. There you go. Faces of death videos were very popular with the boys at our high school parties, says Andy.

Oh, wow. In California, this is ChaCha. That's a new name, actually. I'm not sure who ChaCha is, but says, in California, they showed parts of faces of death in drivers ed. Oh, I remember videos to scary videos. They'd show you, I brought up the face of death. Look, it's resonating. Look at that. Yeah. And, uh, Jeremy Hopkins, who's our official historian says snuff films were, uh, scarily popular for a while.

Really were. Yep. Okay. Keep bringing the good content. Who doesn't click on the link when the, when the plane lands upside down. Oh my God. Yeah. Like you're like, are you kidding? Where's the footage? Yeah, and it 20. You know, you look oh nobody died It's like we have a co-hosting of sociopaths over here It's human a nice shot Rob Bruce your homework is to listen to that all the way and then take a picture of the other song Yeah, they're totally different songs Yeah, take my picture and I feel like when soccer moms heard take my picture, whatever they bought the CD, they were like. Oh, this is heavy shit because all that's a heavy. We've

talked about that. We had talked about like one thing by finger eleven sounds nothing like the other finger eleven song from your home to why don't we ever kick out songs that don't sound anything else? I thought we have. Maybe we did. I think we like songs that don't represent those sound right and right. Oh, I feel like we have. I don't think we have tricky. I could totally. I gave my two right away though. I those are my two go. Let's shut out the last kiss from. Oh, I could I got a couple. I could. Okay, let me kick out my second problematic jam. You guys ready to sing and dance to this wonderful song. Ready? Yes, let's go

give it the original come on, come on Oh the original So when I bust my rhyme, you break it next We got five minutes for us to disconnect From our intellect like a let the rhythm affect Not to lose our inhibition, follow your intuition Free your inner soul and break away from tradition Cause when we be out, girl let's pull it, we vow You wouldn't believe how we wow shit out We burn it till it's burned out, turn it till it's turned out

Act up from northwest, east, south Everybody, everybody, just get into it Get stoopid, get retarded, get retarded, get retarded Let's get retarded, let's get retarded in here. Let's get retarded. Let's get retarded in here. Lose control, a body and soul. Don't move too fast. I'm not even going to say the name of this song, OK? Is that what it's called?

Is that the title? Yeah. Well, this song is called Let's Get R-worded. Let's get R-ed. Let's get R-ed, OK? This was, we're not going back to like, you know, 94. We're not going back to the 70s. Okay. This was, we're not going back to like, you know, 94. We're not going back to the 70s. We're going all the way back to 2003. Okay. This the album's called Ella funk, big album from

a band called the black eyed peas. And this was the version that appeared on Ella funk. In fact, I had it loaded up. So I might play it in a moment for Rob Pruse, who doesn't know this song here. But like, this is literally like, let's get our... I mean, even in... I've played this song in clubs. Did you? This version.

Yeah, well, this, this for a while anyways, for like a year, this was the only version. Big, big song by Black Eyed Peas, but I'm going to actually kill this offensive version. Okay? And I'm going to play for Rob another version that came out in 2004. And this version I'm about to play was only created because the 2004 NBA playoffs on ABC wanted to use the song and ABC's like, really? Can you remove the R word from the song? So they're like, okay, we'll do a new version.

This is like the clean version. And this came out as like the fourth and final single from L-Funk, but the single that I'm about to play comes out in June, 2004. Wow. Okay. So let's go away from the R word for a moment. Goodbye, R word.

Let's get it started. Let's get it started. The music is fantastic. It's super cool. It's Fergie. Contacts there's no disrespect so when I bust my rhyme you break your neck we got five minutes for us to disconnect from Intellect and let the rhythm affect the lose an inhibition follow your intuition free your inner soul and break away from tradition Cause when we be out, bill is pulling me down, you will never find me around I'll turn it till it's burned out, turn it till it's turned out, act up from north west east side Everybody, everybody, let's get into it

Get stompin', get it started Get it started, get it started Let's get it started, ha! Let's get it started Okay, so thank you to ABC who wanted to use this song for the 2004 NBA Playoffs. We got this version, which I can tell you the title of this version is let's get it started And then of course black eyed peas released this as the final single from Ella funk We call it the clean for the censored version if you will and this version

Let's get it started went all the way to number 21 on the billboard hot 100 And now I feel like it rightly so maybe They don't even A even acknowledge like that the original version ever existed. Yeah, it's been erased. Well, they literally replaced it on all the digital and streaming platforms. Did they? The new version.

So if you're searching for it on probably on Apple or Spotify or whatever, you're going to find let's get it started. You won't find let's get it. Let's get R worded. OK. But you apparently, if you wanted like, I need this, I need the R word version. I need the fucking R word version.

I prefer this version. You can go to, there's a let's get it started EP release in the iTunes store, which still has the, let's get it R word. Let's get it, let's get R worded. That's really funny. Available here. Black eyed peas, bunch of big hits from black IP. This was like their big breakthrough because this one had, where is the love was like the first single and then suddenly black eyed peas was everywhere.

So you missed this one. Hey Robbie. Yeah. But was the remade version released as a single as well? Yeah. Was it a bigger hit? Let's get our was not a hit. It was an album cut that got played in it. Like it was a, people knew it was a banger of a song, but they wouldn't play it. It was not on the radio. Because it's funny, like, like as an, as a creative person, when you're creating something, you might write something and go, oh my God, if we use that, we'll

never get airplay. And in the old days, you knew that. So you changed it. You changed it. Nile Rogers always used to tell the story about the chic song freak out, where they weren't admitted into the studio 54 and they wrote went back to their rehearsal place and they were the song that went off fuck off and they're like we'll never get airplay so they changed to freak out and of course that was it beginning to get hit yeah that's on can is interesting I just I wanted to hear it it's got samples of fallen by Alicia Alicia keys in it and do you remember bass is loaded I don't know there's like a rap band from 93. No, I only remember bass is bass. So you know bass load is the song

leaders of the new school is a member them. Of course they were with tribe cold quest. Yes. There's a sample from them in this. Wow. Yeah. Who sampled dot com bust of rhymes is from leaders on this. Go isn't he? I don't know. Yeah. You would know that I don't know that website who sampled dot com. Oh, it's so good. Oh, it's a big. I love it. You know, uh, you remember Harlem shake? Yeah, of course. Yeah. So that guy, the D hour power, the DJ who does that, he's got a whole series on Tik TOK and I on Instagram of him going through the who sampled thing and all he does is pull them out and listen to them. I love

that shit. Yeah. The coolest thing to me is send some to those two. Yeah. Yeah. The beastie boys album, Paul's boutique. Oh, yeah. You can. Yes. There's playlists of like every song that they've sampled and it's so cool to listen The Beastie Boys album, Paul's boutique. Oh, yeah. You can. Yes. There's playlists of like every song that they've sampled and it's so cool to listen to. Oh, that's legendary. That's the album before the one that you see the sticker for. Which?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because the next one after that. Okay. I love Beastie Boys. What words do you have Rob Proust before your third and final problematic jam? We've had a lot of problematic music today. My music is not problematic because it's 50 years ago.

It's, but to me- Then why are you kicking it out on the problematic jams episode of Toast? Well because it's problematic, the subject matter I believe is problematic. Well if you don't think it's problematic, I'm not gonna play it. Play it.

Okay. It's problematic, but it's fun. No, it's the same thing. It better be fucking offensive, Rob. There's no R words, no F words, no- No N words? The lady that I know just came from Columbia. There's no R words, no F words, no N words. Ha!

Kind of a Jamaican accent. A little bit, I just noticed that too. I said no no no no I don't kind of a Jamaican Little bit I just noticed that to bring out trying to be Jamaican Thank you, please it only makes me sneeze then it makes it hard to find A woman that I know just came from my yorker spain she smiled because i did not understand then she held out a 10 pound bag of cocaine she said it was the finest in the land and i said yeah no no no no i don't no more a sniff man tied up waking up on the floor no thank you please It only makes me sneeze.

This is an anti-drug song. It's sort of, I mean it is, but it would never get played today. Move over Bill Cosby. That's right. What's the name of it? What is it? The No No song. Is this Ringo? It's Ringo Starr. 1974 was a number one hit in Canada. Is Rude's Magic a problematic champ? Oh, why? No, sorry. Magic's Rude. Magic a problematic jam. Oh, why? No, sorry. Magic's Rude. I got a back. Right. Why? Why would it be?

Probably they're doing a bit of a Jamaican accent. They're doing it in a bunch of white guys from Toronto. Um, Bob's thinking about it. I don't think so. No, I think I have dreadlocks. Is it problematic when white people dreadlocks? What's his name? One of my crows, dude? Yeah. No, why a lot of examples. I think I have a friend. I have a friend. She I've known her for thirty, twenty five years and she was the first white person I knew to have dreads and it was again. It was the nineties when people did and she still

has them really yeah and they're like down to her butt and I feel like her spirit of about them is it. I don't think it's a blanket thing. You know, I don't know. Maybe because I'm close to the person, the dread thing. I think I can. Well, the guy from the doughboys had it forever. Yeah, he had the dreads going here. Did not know that's amazing. Okay, you know, he's got the cover of that. She's sixteen. She's beautiful. You're sixteen. You're beautiful. Yeah, I was right in the same era the same era the up at 74 Ringo was doing all these nice Vienna was the

album yes uh-huh wow which is not but the song was written by Hoyt Axton who wrote the song for through dog night joy to the world Wow Harry Nilsons on background vocals yeah Harry this that was the era when Harry was partying I believe with John Lennon and they were all hanging out and and Murray was down in L. A. They were all together. If you're going to go off on the beach boys, yeah, if you're going to go off and say that rude by magic, I'm just asking. So I don't. So my question then is what about half the stuff by the police? They've got a whole bunch of reggae beats. Is that problematic? You can only can only people

from Jamaica do something with a reggae beat? No, no, You can only can only people from Jamaica do something with a reggae beat? No, no, I don't think so. No, because they re follow your daughter home by the gas. Follow your daughter home. That's a cool song. Amen. Well, if they're putting an accent on, that's a different thing. I feel like there's a little snow is in former. Oh, it's absolutely fine. The guy problematic. No, the guy was like he's spent a ton of time in Jamaica. That's you know, and he's doing the Patois. It's just like a language, right?

So well, he explains it that he grew up with new Canadians from Jamaica in Toronto here in Scarborough, Canada. Hello from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. That's right. Andy Cornish, whoever you are. Okay. You got an extra jam here. I do?

Yeah. Can I play it? Keith Moon is on it. No, you don't. You don't. I wish I did. Keith Moon? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What? They were all hanging out. Wow. He's problematic. Yeah. There's no extra jams with the Nono song. The Nono song speaks for itself. No, that's great.

So do you think it's... So why do you think it's problematic? I think it's problematic just because of the subject matter. So like this was a number one song. Don't do drugs? Don't do drugs. But I think even like, like you don't take it as, as just don't do them. You're sort of describing them.

And I just think it wouldn't get airplay today. People would be like, oh my God, he's singing about cocaine and like clearly. Have you listened to Lady Gaga? And like, I think I can't feel my face. Yeah. Like by, by the whole Coke Jam. Yeah, it's true.

Yeah. I think this one's not problematic. I'm going to, I'm going to have to call you feel my face. Yeah. Like by, by the whole Coke jam. Yeah. Yeah. I think this one's not problematic. I'm going to, I'm going to have to call you again. Yeah. Do you think it's anti-drug? Yeah. Oh, for sure. I don't want any more Coke.

It makes me think Nancy Reagan would have loved that. So that's true. I think I'm going to vote again. Part of that song is when he calls it marijuana, however he says it, I find, I never noticed that. I find the term marijuana offensive. Like they, they racialized it. Well, you know, yeah, I was going to say, you know, like that's a created term by like, is it really?

Yes. I did marijuana cannabis. They actually wanted to associate it with Mexicans. No way. And the, and the story goes there like the urban legend goes, or I don't know if it's true or not, but they actually, uh, like the FBI, like the CIA, the American government created the term marijuana. Yeah. Breaking news. Hoyt Axton appeared on WKRP as the Hick who loved Jennifer from her hometown in West Virginia. He was in a couple of movies. That's really cool. That's a mind blow from the VP of sales there. Holy crow. Jeremy Hopkins wondering if the entire Ska movement is problematic, because we talked about the white dudes doing the Jimmy, and I don't, you know,

reggae is one thing, but when you go into the accent, it's problematic, and I think he's doing an accent there, Mr. Reggae. Good point on the guess who too, though. Yeah, I always wondered about Father, You Got a Home. If that was problematic here, but you know, again, we're not here to judge the songs, we're just here having a discussion, what songs that we listen to are problematic, right? You know, goodness, the clashes Rudy can't fail. Is that problematic? Andy's wondering aloud. We're getting a conversation going here. Just mean we you know music is art and it discusses different things discussing drug use I mean how many Alice and Shane songs are talking about heroin addiction right like to me that's not problematic at all

That's true. That's that's the reality of life that people are addicted etc. It's an addictions. That's true But I don't yeah, I think that's a key. I think it's a cute song, but I don't think it's problematic Okay, good just myself You were eating. What are you looking out there? Canada? Kev says two tone was all about bringing black and white together. That's right. It was a very British thing too, right? Because of in the culture, in the society, they really merged it. Much like Toronto, London had a great influx of a new, uh, English people coming from Jamaica, which was a part of the,

Oh yeah. We have the most Jamaican people outside of Jamaica, I think in, in Toronto. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Shout out to Michigan. Okay. So is it a problem when the message is coming from a person who clearly doesn't follow his message?

That could make it. Yeah. Cause I'm pretty sure that, uh, that Ringo part they were doing the things they said they're doing it. Ringo is what is he now? 80 83. Okay. I've never saw 84. Did you ever go is he now? 80? 83? Okay.

I've never saw. No, no, he's 84. Did you ever go see him? It was his all-star band. I did. My father-in-law went last year and they had like, they had the dude from Africa, from Toto. Oh yeah.

And I didn't realize. Which dude? I don't know. I think it was Steve Lukather, maybe? Sounds right. The guitar player. Okay, on that note, Stu Stone in the basement next week.

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So my jam here, I did not, I have to admit, I didn't know what as a kid, I'd never, but I, I have, I have serious in the car and I was on the fifties at, uh, on five or when it was back then they've moved the fifties way down the dial now. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And not enough people listen to the fifties and sixties. They've been relegated. They're at Ridley funeral home. Yeah. So I heard this song and I literally turned it up. I was like, Oh my God, this song is so inappropriate.

Go for it. When a girl changes from Bobby socks to stocking. The girl changes from bobby socks to stockings And she starts trading her baby toys for boys When that one shy little sleepy head Learns about love and it's me You can bet that the change is more than from cotton to sin If a miss wants to be kissed instead of cuddles And to this you are in doubt is what to say When a girl changes from bobby socks to stockings

And she's old enough to give her heart away far away. Yeah, it's not much longer, is it? When a girl changes, it's the same thing. It's just repeating. He's doing it again. All right. Why is this problematic? Bob will let it's a little rapey.

I don't know. It's called it's literally called Bobby Sox to stop by Teen Angel himself. Frankie Avalon 1956 is the song and it went to number eight on the billboard hot one hundred. So it's a top ten song and it's just in that same vein of all those songs where polanka style. This is like it's just it's creepy. It's so it's problematic because it's

creepy. This is one step before I when it's creepy. It's like one step before I when I saw you coming out of school at sixteen exactly. It's like and like so what like why are you singing about this dude like like in causes? There's a there's ambiguity about what age this is yeah like when does a girl stop wearing bobby socks and start wearing stockings and that's when you can kiss her and oh man. I heard it and I was like oh my wow yeah, I is a problematic song funny. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of you know, teen angel. You know, there's a whole bunch. There was Ted Nugent's got songs about underage. Oh, I'm sure I mean yeah, he's

problematic. You say right here for much a reason. Yes. So anyways, I just thought it was one of one speaking of check your head, you know, which is the follow-up from, uh, to, uh, Paul's boutique, uh, they got the biz versus the new John, that thing. I love that fucking CD. That was the BC boys, the biz versus the new, Bismarck key versus a 10 new. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, funny. Uh, okay. That's problematic. Jam. Bobby's there's so many ones. Yeah. Like, uh, there's so many songs. And again, now I know people were getting married younger in the fifties, right? So, you know, you're like, you're getting married at 20. How old were you

when you got married? I was, uh, almost, I was, uh, 30, almost 30, almost 30. Yeah. You dated a long time. We started. Yeah, we did. We dated eight years. You had to make sure. Well, shoot. But yeah, I know she, again, Laura was 17, turning 18 when we started dating and, uh, we, so I was, uh, Laura was 17 turning 18 when we started dating and we, so I was, she was 25 or turning 26 and I was 32, 29, turning 30. There's almost a full five. How old were you and you got you married the first time Rob Bruce? Twenty five.

Okay. Almost 20 people are getting married young, but I got married at 21. Did you really really? Wow. How and how old was your first wife? When you got 20, wow. Can't imagine why it didn't work out. Turning 50. Yeah. This coming to wow. And how old was your first wife when you got married? 20. Wow. Can't imagine why it didn't work out. She's turning 50 this coming June.

Wow. That's crazy. 21. So did you have a big wedding? No, we got married at old city hall. Oh. Oh. Smallest wedding there is.

Shotgun. Shotgun. I get it. You can't do a shotgun wedding in Canada cause you get the license and then they're like, okay, next Tuesday. Like it's not like Vegas. Well, that's still a shotgun. Yeah, but there But there's days shotgun. You can't be drunk one night

and then married in Toronto. Yeah. Anyway. So, um, I think those songs are not without their like some of them you understand that one just super creepy. It's a creep town, man. I love it. I love it. I like how creepy it is in a in a in an ironical way. Ah yes, all for one line, though. All right, okay. That one line is one line. They could use a different word, could have wonder he was portraying somebody. I think like it feels like it. Yeah, but then. I get it.

Yeah. But then we could also talk about how inappropriate are Delirious and Raw by Eddie Murphy. Yeah. The homophobic stuff in law, especially. We loved it. And of course, we loved it back then, right? Yeah, but they're not going to play Delirious on 680 CFTR. That's true.

No, but it still makes it... Problematic. But yeah, but 100% is... I will discuss in a moment because we have some guy named Sting. Do you know this is Sting? I've heard of him. Yeah. He sounds familiar. Gordon Sumner. Do you know that's his real name? You know that. I did know that.

Gordon. This is him. We'll get to it because I actually had somebody in the basement Tuesday. Yeah. This is Gordon Sumner, Sting from police, speaking to the police. And I had started the basement. Isn't it? Yeah. But this voice we're hearing is thing on this one is staying the whole song. Yeah. This part, just this part. Yeah. He's the guest vocalist. Oh, he's like Brian Adams on glass.

Tiger percentage in analogy. Yeah. And I'll tell you about my conversation on Tuesday with a gay man. We talked about the F slur and we talked about Eddie Murphy's, uh, delirious coming up soon. We got dire straight the post hit the body for nothing on Toronto Mike's Toast episode 39 Let's fucking go Look at them yo-yos, that's the way you do it You play the guitar on the MTV That ain't workin', that's the way you do it Money for nothin' and you chase for free No, that ain't workin', that's the way you do it

Let me tell you, Damn guys ain't dumb Maybe get a blister on your little finger Maybe get a blister on your thumb We got to install microwave ovens Custom kitchen deliveries We got to movies, refrigerators We got some movies called a TV There's a little faggot with an earring and a major joke Yeah buddy, he's got his own big head

A little faggot got his own jetty A little faggot, he's a millionaire now And one more time just in case So you get three f slurs in there, holy smokes, okay Great song we we all heard it on much music like crazy the video We know last month we talked about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the director directed this video Talk about a small world. Okay, so At the time I don't know if I knew really what the f I didn't even hear it like I'll be honest when I was at proud FM when this kind of came back to light and I like it was. I don't know what brought it back to light, but

something brought it back to light. Maybe the Christmas song, my favorite Christmas song, fairy tale, New York,, which has an F slur, which you can easily just give it a little little whoop and it's not there anymore, right? Like you can just, it's all for radio. Yeah, for radio, because I still love that song. Scumbag. I still love this song. These are problematic jams, but it doesn't mean we don't listen to it. Yeah, I did. I'll be honest. I didn't even notice it before. Like I didn't, but I did have a lot of very serious conversations with the people who I worked with at proud FM and the audience about it, and it was kind of divided in

the song. Yeah, yeah, like it was kind of divided. He does it three times like it isn't. He doesn't just do it once and oh maybe you miss it, but three times it had an aggression to it. Maybe it feels like a little aggressive. Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's mid eighties. We're not going back to the fifties. There's the whole so, but there's a whole generation of young gay men who have kind of taken that word back and they use it with each other. Mark Knopfler is not a gay man. Yeah, but okay, so fair enough, but what about

the idea that because if the words been taken back, it's okay that it was it was used. It's not as offensive. You've taken hit the power away from him. I thought I think I remember when that song was on the radio, even at the time, I remember thinking it's like unnecessary. Why did you need to use that word? I sort of seemed dumb like like like sort of maybe he's trying to be a character or whatever, like you know what I mean? He's speaking in the in the voice of somebody else. But it seems lazy, like a lazy choice.

Noting you're not going to hear this on Q107 today. Yeah. Like there's a reason I'm not playing this song. And this is a big jam from Dire Straits. It was a massive song. It would have been on Boom. It was like their biggest jam. Boom and Q would play this song every day

if it didn't have the F-sign. No, it's true. Yep. So it's problematic. I don't know. And yes, you can say he's playing a character who would use that word. That's the same deal with a fairy tale of New York. Yes, right.

This is the character that would say the F-slur. You could say the same thing about Quentin Tarantino's character in Pulp Fiction. That's right. It's a character. And nobody is banning, no one's banning Pulp Fiction. No one's pulling this song from Spotify. But radio is not playing it because many people, not just gay people, straight people too,

are offended by the F slur. Because it's used with such vitriol and hatred towards somebody because of their sexual preference. While we're on this conversation, how do we feel about the whole, I don't know if you've seen these memes or not about people going on about how the left wing, let you know, liberal men and, uh, or the idea of using the word gay to mean not fun or not cool, like trying to make it, you know, or you can go back to the R word if you wanted to, but what about, you know, okay, so forget the F, you know, the F that word, but what about using, oh man, that's so gay as a, as a term, but not, you're not saying it's whole, it's a, it's a homosexual. You're just saying it's not, I don't like it. Well,

that was certainly movement that people are trying to bring that back. Oh yeah. I think so. It was certainly a word that we use when I was, I was reading the live stream. No, no, no. Gay, gay, same vein. What about, I think there are people, comedians, some, some comedians, some people online create a content creators who are trying to recreate, trying to make the using the word gay to mean something that's not good or cool. Yeah, like in our schoolyards. That's exactly what Rob just said. Yeah, when we were kids, we said, Oh dude, that's okay. Not meaning that's not

meaning that that's homosexual. That just means I don't do it. Yeah, like so are we looking like if if we're okay, are we okay with that difference? Like I just said gay and I just said gay again and saying gay again because on my podcast, I'll say the word gay. Yeah, but I won't say the f slur. No. So so like it's like, well, there's a hit. Yeah, unless you're British and you want to go for smoke, but you won't. Yeah, if you do that, but you wouldn't use that like the term of that. So gay to something that's not cool, right? No, but in the Flintstones theme song, they say, we'll have a game of a gale time and we could deck the halls with bells

of holly and there's a there's a yeah, we'll have a gay, a gale, and we could deck the halls with bells of holly and there's a yeah, we'll have a gay old time is that we now are gay apparel. That's it don't we now are gay apparel follow la la la la la la la la la la la so just on Tuesday, Scott Thompson, Scott Thompson's been in both. Yes, yes, although he was on zoom and his the audio was horrible. It was so bad. Yes, melt congress. Yeah, it was with Paul, but with Paul Bellaney and it's how Paul Blaney worked for me at proud. I found so cool. I think Paul is one of

the he's most underrated kind of Canadian stars because he he's voice Scott Thompson's writing partner and he is responsible for a lot of the really interesting things that happened on kids in the hall. That's right. Did he did I haven't listened to the Scott? You know what you have? I want to read you to listen. It's a really good episode. It's 90 minutes, but he comes, he talks in such detail about why Amazon, he will never work of Amazon again.

He gives specifics. He tells you the buddy Cole bit that they filmed, but Amazon wouldn't air it on Prime. He talks in such detail about witnessing the school shooting in 1975 in Brampton. I had no idea about that. I listened a few times. I cut out that part and put it on YouTube. Unbelievable, he talks about telling jokes during the shooting.

He talks about whipping out a sandwich. Unbelievable. And how that shapes his history in comedy right after. He talks about being firebombed in LA. Because his boyfriend he lived with in LA did that movie about the Hussein family in Iraq. And we didn't even know we didn't, we never even talked about the fact he survived cancer, but he's had so much trauma, so much. We talked about Gary Shanley and we talked about, you know, why, you know, buddy Coles

on tour and not kids in the hall. Like he didn't name names, but there's a, there's somebody holding out. Somebody's holding out. It was a really tree talk. It was a really good conversation. Like you, but we talked about the F slur. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about the F slur and he kind of,

he didn't want any, he's like, say it. He's fine. He's fine. Yeah. He's completely fine. If you say it, he's completely fine. If I say the F slur and he thinks this identity politics, he went off on it. He says he's being censored more from the left than the right now.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bit he shares about Buddy Cole, he said they couldn't get it through because it would be offensive to Jewish people and Muslim people. And both. Well, you're just running the gamut there. It's amazing.

It's equal opportunity offender, this Scott. Well, if you're gonna offend everybody. He's fine with the F-slur, and my brother Steve was over for my daughter's birthday. You have a brother? I have a couple brothers. And my brother Steve said he listened to the episode and he said he was trying to get you to say the F-step. I didn't bite. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it, but I'll say

gay. Yeah. I'm not saying the F-step because to me there's a, there's a hatred to the X-ler and you guys talk about the word queer at all. Yeah. He went off. Yeah. He doesn't like the word queer. So exactly. I have, I have people who I worked with in the, in the, in the LGBTQ community who hate the Q eight queer. Okay. That was used against them. That was like your career, right? Like that was used again. And I think it's of a certain age. I think that seems upset at how, uh, anybody and their brother and their mother could, could you sit under the one that's right. That's right. Yeah. It's the other thing that he made a good point about was the censorship between

the difference between CBC and HBO. Right. And the fact that what CBC was letting go by HBO would not let flight. That was a good rhyme flying by. Um, but the American prudishness, the, the, the, the concern that they have for censorship, like, like belies and sort of exposes the world that we live in now fucking word there because the the sensors and the sense the sensitivity in America is over the top because they're so too faced about everything right well yeah I mean we could you know extremely you know our fundamentalism on either side is bad

right and the left really has not done a great job. The left hasn't done a great job on being. I don't want to say a middle ground, but I've just been so extreme, so worried about identity politics and the smaller picture that it's allowed the right to come up and and do all this stuff. Yeah, like the fact that they cheered when trump did his address to Congress and they cheered we're getting rid of D. I. They're like yeah, yeah, yeah, how there are only two genders in this country and then they all go bananas like yeah, man, woman, that's it. How fucked is it that the

people who run the country down there cheered that they're getting rid of D. I. Look and D. I. Is not perfect. It's like when, uh, what do they call it in the States? Uh, uh, equal operative, um, affirmative action. It's not perfect, but as a man who spent most of last year without a job, and I will say firmly because I'm a middle-aged white guy, I'm okay with that. Because that's the world we live in and we, things have to change. Things have to change, but the- Gonna make a change. Exactly.

I'm not gonna, but I think part of my, like I couldn't get jobs. I, people had DEI things to fill out and that's okay. I'm smart enough to know that that's okay. It's a changing world. I grew up in a world where the black kids on my street or on my, in my building or the brown kids, they couldn't even get an interview

because of what their last name was. So I understand that that has to happen. But the word, but we got so messed up in words and names and you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,. You have to listen. I will. I will. It might be the best episode I've ever done. Do you really feel that way? I feel that way. Like what, what would you put your top five? You have to, okay. So my mind sees, okay, so he's a big name. People know Larry Sanders show. A lot of people know kids in the hall. So he's a big name. He's live in person. Yeah. Yeah. He's not on zoom. He's sitting right where you are. Oh yeah. Cause I changed it. Cause somebody told me my camera, the Charlie Angus video went viral and a lady who's some in photography for TV shows says I have it

backwards. So I made adjustments based on this feedback. See, I will take feedback. Okay. But yeah, sitting there, uh, I felt like he was being honest with me. Like it felt like he was just going to tell like it was. And I felt like his story was mind blowing. Like even if just being 16 in that Brampton high school, when the kid shows up and starts shooting up the place because he wanted to kill that teacher who was Scott Thompson's teacher and his favorite teacher. And you know, and how that moment,

and we talk about him making the joke, he makes a joke in that moment that it gets a reaction and then he whips out his sandwich and everything. And then he realizes he's running towards the danger in his comedy life forevermore. Like he's now running towards the danger and literally he pivots, he's only 16 there. He's at York University being doing comedy and he basically says, I'm going to be a part of this troop here. This kid's in the hall. That was so cool that he saw them and he like wanted to meet them and join them. It's just really neat. It's just, it's, I think that a combination of everything in person, the way the mood, just the way it went,

the content, I think that might be the best trial. But what do I know? It's not the best because you've got how many, like almost 1600 episodes. It's over 1600. It's not better than the previous one. Yeah, no, but he's, I think that he speaks to the, the general way that you are able to bring good stories out of people. tonight episode. Yeah, no, but but he's I think that he speaks to the the

general way that you are able to bring good stories out of people. I'm conversation quantity. I'm quantity, not quality. I'm top ten and guests here, so I have appearances, so it's not about me being good, but I would say for all time. Yes, Mike is very good and Mike is comfortable enough. I think your lack of be honest, your lack of professional broadcast, uh, no, I mean for me, no, because you, you ask questions that I, that people would be afraid of to ask if they were on the sea. You want the real time. You ask, you ask questions that are difficult to ask, but I don't think you ever feel that they're difficult to ask. Do you

know? No, because if I felt they were inappropriate or out of bounds, I wouldn't ask them like it, it's not like- But you ask questions that I think are over the line of what people would think are out of bounds. I'm fearless. No, that's what I mean. No, do you feel- Fearfully independent.

There you go. So I dropped it in the CNN interview. You sure did. As an Easter egg. I loved it. Am I getting my new theme song of Easter egg? Yes, I'm going to start working on some new ones for sure. Will we have it for the next episode of Toast?

Maybe. Because I want to unveil it on the next episode of Toast? Maybe. I wanna nail it on the next episode of Toast. Okay, so I don't even wanna know what the, I don't even wanna know what the Easter eggs are because we'll listen live at the end. I still wanna take a few more suggestions though because I have a bunch of ideas already, but I feel like I should get a few.

Okay, so go to Blue Sky. Why isn't Bob O'Lett on Blue Sky? I don't know. You know what? We chat a lot and we tag and we still tag you. They just asked me at Indie to start a Blue Sky. Do it. Do it.

For fuck's sake here. Join us. Join us. I'm no longer posting on X. I love you. This will be on X. We need to get you on Blue Sky. By the way, when I first, it was in 85,

so I'm like 10 years old, and I loved that album, Brothers in Arms, by Dire Straits. And it had three big monster hits off of it. Okay. Yes. And one of them was Money for Nothing. It had the big video because it was that like CGI type thing with animation or whatever, big video, much music. And it was like, you know, Sting is doing this. And I didn't know it was Sting at the time, I think, but it was,

I want my MTV. I can't hit that high note, but I actually wasn't sure what that was. So because I was, you know, born and raised in Toronto, we didn't get MTV here, but let me just play a little promos here. Very visual. Right. I want my MTV. Madonna. I want my MTV. I want my MTV. Turn it on. Leave it on. America, see the music you wanna see. I want my MTV. Really, I don't. All right.

You're a city lopper, right? Turn it on. Leave it on. I want my MTV. I want my MTV. So this is before the song. Yeah. So I didn't know that that was the MTV slogan.

Now do you know why Sting came on board for that though? Do you have the fun time? Tell me. Okay. Because the melody that he sings is don't stand so close to me. I want my MTV. That's why he's doing it. Yeah like it was a kind of a brilliant move. Probably, I don't know if he got a songwriting credit on it, but basically Mark Knopfler took Sting's song, Don't Stand So Close To Me and said, I want my hand. I want my hand.

Don't stand so close to me. Yeah, it's exactly the same. That's why he did it. I will say, Jane Siberee's online too. What is it, Jane? What is it, Jane? That's a fun fact. That's a fucking fun fact.

That's why, because it like triggers people's minds to hear Sting in his little high range singing and Don't Stand So Close To Me had already been hit. Well, I promised something earlier in this lengthy episode here. Yeah, we're going along, man. And then we'll wrap it up after this. Be very, very... What a riff. Lookie here people, listen to my story. A little story about a man named Jed. You know something that pulled out near.

They say he barely kept his family fed. Now let me tell you, one day he was shooting. Oh Jed was shooting at some food. Went all of a sudden right up from the ground there well it came a bubbling crew all that is well maybe you call it black gold and texas tea he gonna move next to mr drysdale and be a Beverly Hillbillies from the same album as the hot rocks polka. It's so Beverly hillbillies. His

production is so good the way he like he can mimic exactly right. I've had a lover of his on the program. Do you think he'll ever get weirdo Yankovic in this basement? A lover of his? You're gonna tell us who no i know i know tm she wants me to go back and she's an old friend of mine an fotm okay go to toronto mike.com click notable guests at the top oh there you go one of those people listed is a former lover of weirdo yankovic wow would weirdo yankovic ever visit the basement what do you think i feel like that's a possible distinct possibility yeah why not I had Loretta sweat. She zoomed in. She did. It was a phone call actually,

old school. Okay. Even a phone call. I had a phone with her. So Bob Wagner, who else has been in the basement physically? Bob Wagner, Bob Wagner and chicken shawarma are the only two that were live, but the chicken shawarma one didn't record properly. So I don't even have it. And my kids, that's it. Oh geez. Yeah. No, nobody's done live. I actually got to get back on I actually met a bunch of people over the weekend. You know blue sky get back Yeah, they want me to do some episode the beaches or who are we got? Yeah, they're only Leandra and the sisters Yeah, no, I would love I got to get back on it. That's a big get. Okay, so Bob's basement coming returning Feed I want to I might actually do Bob's basement coming, returning to your podcast feed.

I want to, I might actually do Bob's basement from my shed. I got an, I got a pretty cool shed to do it from. Yeah. Yeah. And we got, uh, I never even mentioned it, but a fantastic t-shirt being worn by Rob Bruce. Yes. Captain Canada, Captain Canada, United way. Captain Canuck. Yes. I'm ready to, I'm ready to cross the border with my Captain Canuck shirt and I'll make cereal. We kicked out some problematic jams today. This just in, Canadian music legend, Rob Bruce being held at the border. He's been detained.

That's right. You hear about that woman who was detained for two weeks, Canadian? Yes, sending a message. That's a shot across the bow. Sure it is. So is the nuclear sub in Halifax. That's a message too. Who's that from? France France, but actually they corrected it and it's it's nuclear powered. No, no, they are. But yeah, it's not it. There's no there hasn't been nukes on Canadian soil. No, that's right. No. So they says, but yes, so they said right that was not a sister invent storm chips. That's from

the brother on the live stream. I don't know. Maybe. He's got a couple sisters or one sister. I think he's got two. He's got two sisters. Are you bringing eggs back home with you? No, no eggs. Just lots of cereal, eggs, cereal and chips. I have some Cadbury. I do actually.

British ones apparently are better than the Canadian ones. For sure. Oh, did blurred lines get Hanson to move scrumptious? Yes. Yes. Oh, did Blurred Lines get Hanson? Moose Grumpy's wondering. Yes. Blurred Lines got Hanson. Yeah. There's a lot of problematic jams.

Oh, I love that song so much though. It's so good. There's a lot of problematic jams. You know, I met Robin Thicke's dad and we spent quality time together one day. Who's Robin Thicke's dad? That's some guy. You ever seen Growing Pains? Yeah.

I talk about it when I'm on the air on Tuesday nights. You take the good, you take the bad, you take the rest and then you got? Well, you got to catch the life theme going on there, but same author, right? But Alan Thicke on that show, growing pains, that's how we get Leonardo DiCaprio. You know this, right, Rob? Sure. That's how we get him. He was already an actor.

No, but he wasn't no one. He was no one. I don't feel like we get the Leonardo DiCaprio without growing pains. Oh, see. Oh, that's interesting. You're saying he wouldn't have got his break somewhere else? I'm not sure he'd ever get his breaks. He wouldn't be eating Gilbert Grape. I thought of a good problematic Canadian jam we left off. Okay, give it to me quick.

Bimbo, bimbo on the Uncle Bob show. Bimbo, bimbo on the Uncle Bob show. Uncle Bob is problematic, but it was always, as far as we know, always consensual adults. Yes. That's right. There's nothing problematic about that. No. Go. And that brings us to the end of our 1,652nd show. Go to torontomike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. I'm on blue sky at torontomike.com. Rob's on blue sky at Rob Bruce.

Yeah, something like that. And you'll find Bob will let there soon. He'll let us know when he gets there. Oh, and Toronto Mike.com now ad free. That's right. Oh yeah, I didn't mention it. My wife didn't like the ads. So I'm out 250 bucks a month because I removed the ads.

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