Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - #TOAST40: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1674

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

In this 1674th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 40th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out outlier jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Silverwax, Yes We Are Open, Nick Ainis and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Building Toronto Skyline A podcast and book from Nick Ienies Sponsored by Fusion Corp Construction Management Inc. And Ridley Funeral Home, Pillars of the Community since 1921. Joining me today for this 40th episode of Toast. Woo! Really? Where we kick out outlier jams, it's Rob Pruss. Yeee!

And Bob Willett! Shhh! Yo! Number 40, huh? Number 40. Not all you two though. That's Toast, right, yo. Number 40, huh? Number 40. Not all you two, though. That's toast. Okay, that's all the toast. That's all the toast combined.

But it's a big 4-0. You just said, Rob, you wanted to say something about Bob Willett, who is, I'm reading the notes here, single-handedly saving radio. Every time I tune in in the 88, I hear Bob's wonderful voice. What were you going to say? I just was listening coming in and I heard two songs. You're going to laugh at this. To me, it was new.

It's a band called Super Hog. Yeah. What they're called. No space, space, space. Oh my God. You don't know Space Hog. I'm not in the meantime. In the meantime, it's a great song.

Sounded vaguely familiar. Super Hog. Yeah. That's a porno name. Is it? OK. Super Hog. So they called me and Bob's got a Super Hog.

But Space Hog, it sounded like a 90s kind of a song. It totally is. they called me a, no, Bob's got a super hog, but space hog. It sounded like a nineties kind of a song. It totally isn't any song. It's great song though. I never really know it. Yeah. I don't know. I just missed out on a lot of them. We've talked about this, but I just hear it in a new way because now it's old. You have a nineties alt rock blind spot. You actually, yeah, we've talked about that. Like you were probably in the middle of, I was in the middle of fans with the opera and all. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then there's a band called Hot Hot Heat.

Yeah, bandages. A couple of big ones. But maybe. They're not together anymore. Good night. They're so good. Hot Hot Heat's so much fun. Can I have a little bit more volume, please sir?

Bandages was a big deal here. Okay, so I don't know which one. Is that you? They played Middle of Nowhere. One more time. Hello, hello, hello. No, that's not me. That's me.

Hello, hello, hello, hello. That's my headphone getting louder. Hello, hello. There we go, that's me me. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. There we go. That's me. Thank you. No, it's great. What are you too loud? No, I didn't mean to.

You know what? That's one thing. So I know by the coloring, which Mike is which I think about it, but the headphones, you don't have a, I don't have a coloring system. It's a number thing and it can never. I know I'm high maintenance. Well, you know what?

You're going to great songs. Those are great songs. Indy plays a good mix of songs. Can I say that? I don't know. I don't have a, I don't have a coloring system. It's a number thing and it can never. I know I'm high, I'm high maintenance. Well, you know what you're going to have. Those are great songs. Those are great songs. Indie plays a good mix of songs. Can I say, can I say something about Indie? Cause I'm listening to Bob yesterday.

I was in the car and I'm listening to Indie and I hear Bob. I heard this very nice play when you start and Lana gay ends. Yes. You two are do a nice, I always thought that's the next, when the, when the morning show gets picked up by chum or whatever to replace Marilyn Dennis or whatever the new indie morning show is Bob and Lana Lana and I do a crossover as we call it and we call it the unhinged the if I give you my glasses will you clean them for me and

then we'll let Bob finish the the the un hit we call it just the unhinged crossover because we I've known Lana for years like she the reason she was it she's in radio is because the humble and Fred show She was a contestant on the humble and Fred show. Yeah, so and her and I are We were super close. She was gonna be in our wedding party She helped me pick out our wedding rings like that's how close Lana and I that's disgusting wedding party, she helped me pick out our wedding rings. Like that's how close Lana and I, that's disgusting. I know. Firstly, I don't know.

That might be, they were bought at the dollar Rama for a dollar 25. They might've come that way. Actually that cleaner is probably more expensive than the glasses were. But yeah, so I'm three days into 11 days in a row right now on the station. Wow.

Yeah. Okay. So I have an observation, which is the, the, the, I don't know, not the term imaging or branding. Yeah. The imaging. So you are now calling, and I don't know when this started, you'll tell me, but modern music. Toronto's modern music. Right. But this is a bit, so when did the change happen

where you went from Toronto's alternative to modern music, which is different. Last summer, it was before I was there. I got to pay more attention. Yeah. No, well, the thing is it was when Christopher Grossman, the owner took over. One of the first things that they kind of identified is we got to, they, you know, it's not that hard to figure out. Well, the biggest thing I noticed is a lot more like Bruce Springsteen.

There's, there is some Bruce Springsteen. He's not alternative at all. And you'll hear Hungry Heart or whatever. You'll never hear the word alternative on our station anymore. So meanwhile, I do a toggle if you guys go to ads and then I'm at 102.1, I go for the songs. And they're still calling themselves Toronto's real alternative. Because I think that real alternative was a response to your station going with Toronto. Yes, it was clearly like a response. Like we're the real alternative, not those indie guys.

But now your modern music, which reminds me, because 102.1, I don't know, like 1990 era was calling themselves modern rock. That was modern rock, yeah. So this is modern music. But it's not, it's clearly, cause I hear the, like they do that thing here, modern music, and they say,

we're playing old shit you like, like Hungry Heart. That's right. Space Hog. Space Hog, yeah. Right. That's not in the end of the imaging, but yes, we're playing old shit you like, like a hungry heart. That's right. Yeah. Right. That's not in the imaging, but yes, we are playing that. Yeah. But we're also playing the new shit. Yes. So I just think it's interesting that you're going with modern music and then the you'll you'll tell us you're going to play hungry heart. So I should say, so here's the thing. That's why. And that's why you have to you have to couch it that way.

You have to say, I should say, I shouldn't say you should never. We never sit. You'll never hear the word alternative because we do say, you know playing your classic alternatives or something like that And then it'll play like a Pearl Jam song it like in a little clip, right a little montage Yes, and then it'll say talking about a few times Yeah Plus your all-time favorites and it'll be a Fleetwood Mac song and of course all the new music right that you need why? Dude, it's not that hard to figure out who are the two most radio

It's like okay, we're going to try. So touting yourselves as modern music and then playing Hungry Heart is an interesting dichotomy. I don't think people think that hard of a... What about the fact that we call it indie 88 and we don't play independent music? Yeah, but I always interpreted it as the owners are indie. Yes, you're the only one. You're one of the few. Cause I was there for that. Uh, that when they just had the commercial free, uh, stunt launch or whatever, and I'm what are words, man, what are words?

It's all music. We talk to much Quincy Jones says there's only, oh no, it's Duke Ellison. There's only two kinds of music, good music and the rest. Do you want to hit the post on this? It's got a great post cause it pauses for a moment before it starts. What is it? I played this song. Yeah, that's why I'm playing it.

I know. What's your response? I would hit the post if I had a clock clicking down like Bob does at Indie, because you get to see it at 17. I'm reinventing the hitting the post on my chefs, man. I just- It's fun, right?

I'm going old school. See, I missed it because I didn't have the countdown. But this is Fashion Victor. Oh't have the countdown but this is fashion Okay, go ahead I know we're okay so we'll do this and then you can respond but since our last host a Founding member of rough trade has passed away. Yeah, it was an FOTM Carol Pope It was Kevin Staples Kevin Kevin A-N, not I-N. That's right. Rob, you must have been close with Kevin.

I wasn't really close. I only actually- Come on. I just set you up. Just tell us how close you were. I know. Well, no, I wasn't very close. You didn't like him? I loved him. But I did one gig with Rough Trade in 2022. Right. So Carol asked me- At the Elmo? At the Elmo company. Do you want to buy it with me? We'll Trade in 2022. Right. So Carol asked me- At the Elmo?

At the Elmo company, yeah. Do you want to buy it with me? We're going together. Oh yeah. Let's buy it. But Kevin Hearn was normally doing like second keyboard with them as well. So he couldn't do the gig.

So he asked me to fill in. Oh nice. Which was, I was like honored to do it. So I got to go out to Kevin's house in the East end and do a rehearsal with him and Tim Welsh. That's how you know Tim. Did you know Tim already? I knew Tim for ages.

Yeah, yeah. Images in Vogue and National Velvet. Yeah. But I got to go to Kevin's house and we just sat in his living room. Wow. Kevin, Tim and I, and we just ran through the songs and he was like telling stories. And so I didn't really know him that well, except for that one rehearsal. And then the day at the gig, those were really my, you know, I'm sure I met him way back in the 80s briefly as well.

But he was such a cool guy. Do you remember Elaine Loring? Of course. Of course. His sister, her cousin. I'm sure I met him way back in the 80s briefly as well, but he was such a man Elaine lowering of course of course Is his sister her cousin her cousin? Yeah, but he is she explained to me made a little chat as I offered my condolences Kevin was like a brother But yeah was actually a cousin but very close to the Laurens. That's cool Yeah, he was such a cool guy and I think he'd been sick for a couple years because even at that time He was I think he was going through some chemo and some stuff.

Yeah. Well, so great laws. Go ahead, Bob. So I shit you not the day. So I often, I shit you not. I will sometimes during the, I probably shouldn't have led with that. I have these, all these vinyl. I remember I gave you some vinyl from the Q107 library. I have the first, it is a high school confidential album. The fear don't fear. It's what's the

fear of your album is called avoid Freud avoid Freud. Right. Yeah. The day he passed away, I listened to that, to that album before I found out he died. I, it's just the weirdest thing. I sat there in my, in my grandfather's chair, which I do. I, and with my, with my sound system and I just, I listened to both sides. Wow. And then I swear to God. And then like that night I found out he passed away. Yeah. Wow.

I was like, nobody's going to believe me, but I did it. And I, and I didn't do it. I didn't put it on social media that I was listening to it. I just had a free hour. Do you regret that now? Cause you could be like mind blow. Look at the timestamp. No, it's true. I know.

I mean, that could have been my clout. I heard on CBC radio, they interviewed a guy who in 2013 posted on Twitter about a grade six guard, a young girl who was playing basketball. And he was saying, remember, and it's funny, I can't remember the name as I say it, but remember this name,

this name is going to be a superstar. And that young six, this is 2013 or something. She was just drafted first overall in the WNBA and that got him on, on CBC. Uh, uh, uh, was it, what's the hat? What's the big show? Uh, as it happens, as it happens, as it happens, as a show she was on. So you got to document these things and timestamp them. So we lost Kevin Staples, but I do wanna also give my condolences. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. You gentlemen have your measuring tapes

from Ridley Funeral Home. Did you have like a room full of them now? Yeah, I'm using mine for an art project. Pass them along. I keep adding though, I customize them when I do the little hashtag S-O-R-F-H. My nine year old loves this. You know, nine year olds love things like that.

So measuring tapes. So you don't mind if they lose it or break it because you'll be back here next month again another one Here, but I want to say mark Nathan passed away. I Did drop a special episodes, but I loved your chat with him I mean, I mean when it was first on and I because I didn't know all those great stories about him But yes so the main and I only it's funny looking back now is I only wanted to talk about his So the main and I only it's funny looking back now is I only wanted to talk about his can con connections and now I realize I should have had a like an another chat or a longer chat to talk about all his like amazing

American music connections like unbelievable, but I did take note that Maren caddell sweater sweater. Yeah, and I spoke to him after the passing of Mark Nathan to offer my condolences and he's dealing with that But also of course a can con can Concan yeah, I'm can con can very here is this Barry Harris Yeah, and Barry Harris as well grappling processing this and what a key role But then of course it's Stephen Page remains a good friend of mark the late great mark mark Nathan But it is Mark Nathan who introduces the Bare Naked Ladies to Seymour Stein at Sire Records.

You got to listen to this, Bob. I just dropped a remembering Mark Nathan episode. I'm working six days a week right now and I have a child and a competitive dance. Is there a commute to your work? Yeah, I'm listening to the news at that time, to be completely honest. As it happens. OK, so we lost a couple of great ones since our last visit together. But I'm going to play one of my favorite speaking of con can.

I'm going to speak, play one of my favorite can con songs. But forget the fact that can con. I just fucking love this song. And I just did an episode with a woman from Winnipeg about many pops. We'll get back to that Rob. Oh yeah, the the KTEL episode. It was so good, but she remembers seeing these guys in the Winnipeg clubs in the mid mid nineties, early nineties. What a song

Bob, you want to pick it up from here? I asked to play it. So this is a Bob jam. Yeah. I just, I just, cause he always does this, right? He's like, here's something I thought about in a minute. Yeah. I have some thoughts on this. I just wanted to share with you, but I want to hear the opening first. It's not like five years ago. What vocals.

You gotta get the highway to sin on you gotta wait for buckle me in on the highway to sin who's doing that background vocal is that tizzard or is that or is it is it dandy doing both i think it's Joey. Only I could ask one of these wonders. I know, right? You know, Joey's the only one who hasn't been on Toronto Mike. Oh, I'll bring it back up for Buckle Me In. OK, yeah, yeah.

So I heard this the other day and I was like, man, I do. I talk about how much I love this song and I saw it. I saw Danny at the the first bookie, you know, it was at the horseshoe and I introduced myself as your friend. I used you to get to know him. You played at the MLX event, you were there. Yeah, I've never, so that was the first time I met him. We played together.

You opened for him. Remember we did a song together as well. Yes, oh, here, oh, we missed it. Oh, she's like, okay, go. I don't know how I was, yeah. It's okay, people know it. Anyways, and I heard it and I had a revelation about this song. It's a revelation about this song.

It's a tragically hip song. It is a tragic. Jay Gold was managing both bands. Listen to the, I don't know who produced it, but listen, like the drumming is so, it's very similar to Johnny Faze. Think about the way it builds. It's like something from day for night and it, but a little quieter. Just think about the vocals, the background vocals,

that's Paul Langlois. The lyric, buckle me in on the highway to sin. It's a, Gord could write a lyric like that. What year is this? What year was this? This is 95, 96. There's things that happen in the air when music is made, right?

Yeah. I listen to it and I'm like, this could be a tragically hip song. They do have the same manager. Like that's a fact. Yeah. But I'm just like, I listen to it. I'm like, this could be a tragically hip song. They do have the same manager. Like that's a fact. Yeah. But I'm just like, I listen to this outside of the fact that there's- So this is on In the Trees, which is amazing because it opens, remember the big first single was Boneyard Tree, right? Which is very, very, is this an Outlier Jam? This would be an, um, Stereo builds on the other ones. So I don't know.

Right. But this is their, yeah. So by the way, our topic today is outlier jams. That one song that doesn't sound like the majority of the artists catalog. This was released in 94. 94. I thought it was not July. Same year as day for night. Yeah. Someone it's credit. The producer is credited as Mr. Colson. Mr. Colson. What a weird teacher. He was a social studies teacher. Your socials. What a small, I was chatting with the people on the live stream before we started live.torontomike.com.

But what a small industry it is and how you'll say, hey, listen, watch this show. And then Tobias Vonn will go, oh my God, I just looked it up. The creator was my roommate. Like this is the country we live in. I love that. Your social sciences teacher produced in the trees. Unbelievable. Yeah. It's great. trees. Unbelievable. Yeah. It's great. Mr. Colson. Okay. And also ready for another mind ball. Guess what studio this was recorded at.

Bath house. Metalworks. No, it's not. Gilmore was sitting there last week. And you're wearing a Gilmore Jersey. I can't take it. Can I crack open a Great Lakes beer? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Everybody. I know it's morning. It's 10.25. it's morning 25 It's not about 1030 five o'clock somewhere three two Okay, cheers to you guys I'm sorry Wednesday. Can I just say fuck this weather? Oh my god. I know Springs gotta get their shit together You got the sunny like yellow. The sunny side session I pay. So, yeah, Gord Miller was my last guest.

And I mentioned Gil Moore, but it was on the heels of, because I talked about Rick Emmett and Wendell Clark being at Christie Pitts when I recorded, and they were on the same episode. And so we were coming off Wendell Clark's story. I love fucking Wendell Clark. And then I talk about, yeah, I talk about Rick Emmett. So coming off Rick Emmett, I bring up Gilmore,

but of course, Gord Miller, the hockey guy is still thinking Wendell Clark. So yes, he thought I was talking about Dougie, but it's because Gilmore ties in, Gilmore, Gilmore ties in perfectly with the duo that is Rick Emmett and Wendell Clark. And I never really thought of it until you guys were talking about it like Gilmore

But metalworks, of course is Gilmore's studio and that's wow. Okay, I'm gonna Rob. Can I play what you sent me? Not yet. Okay, let's talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, because so I was driving yesterday last night. I was driving actually I got into Burlington and eleven and a half hours ago. I drove all night But I was listening to the KTEL episode. It's a Roy Orbison song. I know. Cyndi Lauper though. And Celine Dion.

Did she do as well? I think so. Really? It's a great song. Cyndi Lauper, right? So do you say that? Yeah, yeah. I love the KTEL episode.

I just said Cyndi Lauper. I was reading, I'm sorry. I was reading. What was her name? Keeves? Keeves? Yeah, Keeves. Keeves.

Samantha Keeves. Samantha Keeves. Daughter of Philip Keeves who created KTEL. What was her name? Key vest key this? Yeah, key this key this she was it was a man The key this Samantha key this daughter of Philip key this who? Created KTL. That's right. He was born in Winnipeg. He was born in 1929. I found all those the year that's right But some of those old ads you guys were playing were cracking me up because that is my childhood those those albums I had like three KTLs in the early. It's a nostalgia trip this nostalgia trip this yeah it's so good but then you were talking about the mini pops and the mini pop kids and it remind like I sort of I'd never listened to them like you know our generational difference makes me not eligible to listen to the mini pops like as a child but I appreciated the fact that they were everywhere and I

thought it was super cool but you know my wife and I we do a lot of teaching with with public school kids in Queens. And every once in a while, I'll do a little recording of them because they're always up on the pop songs. We learn most of our- Chapel Rhone and- Chapel Rhone and just whatever's the hit songs. Sabrina Carpenter.

The kids love it all. So we play this game- Olivia Rodrigo. We play this game at the end of our songs, at the end of our classes called Sit and Sing, where we let the kids sing a pop song and then all the other kids try to guess what it is and they all love this song So I made a little recording and this is the kids I play two chords and the kids go crazy I haven't I haven't heard it. So I'm gonna go get it now for the first time

I guess it's that this is on with Bruno Mars that the no dial Star like a smile. I was a rosy or whatever. No, okay. Ready? Here we go I'm not a brick-washed dress, beat me as the power cell sets off. These are grade one kids. This is the Bruno Mars K-pop song. Is it? Yes. Oh, you mean with Rosette Rose. Rosie is from a K-pop group with the other gal who is in the white loader.

Oh, but they also love Die With a Smile, which is the Lady Gaga Bruno Mars song. Yeah, yeah. He's got two big jams. That's right. Go on. So anyways, this is the song. My mother loves this song. And it's crazy because I play two chords from a like a modern song and yes the song it was gonna be

You know, you knew it. Yeah, I thought you might die with a smile credit for that I forgot because it's Bruno Mars on both of those songs So anyways, we you know the the mini pops all the kids are like that Like I'm I think they learn these songs in that way. So no, yeah, absolutely Bob, are you playing that song ony? No, no, no, no. Um, no, we are on the other radio stations that we, uh, that we're at local radio lab owns. We don't care about those. No, I heard of them. I mean, I'm afternoon drive on those shows. Are you? Yeah. Yeah. Wait,

have you told us that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mentioned it. Did you know that? No, I didn't. And actually, and actually? And actually and actually live in Liberty Village on indie Yeah, and is it live on the other stations or recorded and sure whatever you want, but where are these stations? I think there's one in Bolton. I know we just we just bought one in Bolton So we have we just literally he just got approved by the way if you want to buy a radio station, it's good time No, like really really affordable buying the El Macombo. Yeah, we have been you make about us. Yeah, like really, really affordable. We're buying the Alma combo. Yeah. Yeah. You know, make about a, some anyways. Um, yeah, no, it's, uh, we, um, of the local radio lab just closed a deal with, uh, they bought one of the mooses, um, and that's still around and, uh, it was only all in all in $260,000

for a bull. Yeah. Expensive to maintain. Well, that's the issue. Cause I have to think, I'm going to go buy a hundred and 30 million dollar waterfront property, but then I got to pay the property tax. Exactly. Well, what was your 30 million you have in the bank, right? Well, I was going to think at TMLX 18,

which is June 26 from six to nine PM at Great Lakes Brewery, I was going to pass around a hat. Oh, that'd be good. A big, big hat. I just want to say that uh, that, um, VP of no sales is air checking us while we're on the air. I read that. Yeah. Bob is all about yes. And, and Bruce is a no, but guy, does he do it to you? Does he call out your crutches? No, but have you heard FOTM cast? My brother was over for my daughter. It's

a little too meta for me. It's very meta. Do you listen? I do. I love it. Thank you. I learned it's only for the real head. It's not the willets. It's not for the willets. It's for the pruses But my brother Steve said he listens every episode and he said oh you must love FOTM cast He said it's two hours of you being filleted. Oh Yeah, oh you did such a good job. Oh, yeah, Mike. Oh, yeah Cam repeat what you were saying about that being the greatest interview in the history of the English language. Oh, I should, I should, I should. I didn't realize I'd been on you.

The, that fun fact that I've been on 30 times or something. You, you're right up there, buddy. Right after the Cam and Stu connected to you. That's weird. Well, Bob's catching up too. No, Bob already has more than me. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, I think Bob's got more for sure.

You know why? It's a shorter drive for him. Yeah, it's true. You come in from the goddamn States. I'm'm traversing the I'm gonna traverse the border in In in May, where are you going? It's Bob really? Yeah, you're going where Pittsburgh Pittsburgh to see Pearl Jam Wow Pittsburgh see program picks bird a little it'll only be my fourth time seeing them in Pittsburgh Actually third. No.

No. Rob, I need your ears on this song for like 30 seconds. I'm on. Go. Tell me if you hear a gong. Volcanoes. And the rocks and the trees. Listen closely.

Sit down. I would say that was gongish. I think that's it too. Yeah. So I've been... Oh, there's a gong right there. Is that a gong? That sounds like one of those bowls. So if you've been paying attention to Toronto Mike lately, there's been a lot of talk about the gong on Change of Heart Smile. Yeah. And the gong produced, sort of produced I suppose, by Bob Wiseman, but the gong was hit by the aforementioned Gil Moore, not Doug Gilmore, but he has no memory of it at all. But of course, Ian Blurden was on and who was Glenn Melchum? He was on Smile as well,

so there's a whole stretch of Smile. But so I went through every song on Smile, which I do enjoy. I'm going to see Change of Heart next week on Geary Avett when the garage is there or whatever. But that's the closest to a gong I heard on the entire album. So I needed you to tell me because I don't know the difference between a gong and a cymbal and I don't know what's going on with music. This is gongish. But yeah, I mean, that's the Gilmore contribution to change of heart smile was what you just heard there

That's cool So, okay Now you guys mind if I do a little thing before we get to the outlier do the thing you want But let me just say I do have a palma pasta lasagna for you gentlemen and I love palma pasta and they make delicious lasagna just ask Peter gross and They will feed us at tmlx 18 and everybody listening should make their way to Great Lakes brewery June 26 26 from 6 to 9 p.m Just hang eat some palma pasta get get a some GLB in ya if you don't drink alcohol They have a wonderful hop pop you can consume. Oh do they have them hop water now pop is really good. Yeah, it's really good

Oh, you know how did I can get you. I've never had theirs. I love. Okay. Now that I know, cause at one o'clock today, Troy will be here. He brings beer and the hop. So the first one I had an, I had one from another brewery once. Somebody left it at my house.

And I was like, this is amazing. He had the hop here last year. And it's really good. I love hop water. They call it hop pop. Yeah. Amazing. Sorry. So I'm going to do a little thing here.

This is Mississippi John Hurt. I'm Toronto Mike and this is Mississippi John Hurt. Maybe I got it from him. Do you recognize this tune? Uh, anybody? Blues blues track. A more modern version in a moment here. I'm just going to let Mississippi John Hurt get a bit of time.

Put on some skillet, put on some meat. Mom's going to cook some shortening bread. Old man, he loves shortening bread. Shortening bread. I'm his little baby, love shortening bread. Oh, awesome. My little baby loves shortening, shortening. My little baby loves shortening shortening, I think sometimes it talking about shortening.

I think sometimes it's called shortening bread. An old standard. It's an old folk song. Old folk song. And you heard like an earlier bluesy version and now you hear this. And previously, I think on an episode of Pandemic Friday, although it might've been an early toast with Stu and Cam, I talked about how Brian Wilson was obsessed with a girl group song, Be My Baby by the Ronettes. He was absolutely obsessed. But in this podcast,

they talked about how Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys, this was his favorite song of all time. It wasn't Be My Baby, although I was led to believe. But Short and Bread, this is his favorite song. Alex Chilton from big star. He talked about getting phone calls in the middle of the night from Brian Wilson, short and bread. He said, Hey, so he said, you know, Alex, you have the perfect voice for short

and bread. We should be courted Mickey Dolan's from the monkeys. He was tripping on LSD with Brian Wilson and John Lennon. Okay. That's a fun night. They were talking about playing Shorten and Bread on piano over and over again. Apparently Elton John and Iggy Pop, these are some names you might have heard of. They talked about how Brian Wilson was leading the sing-along of Shorten and Bread. I think the quote from Iggy Pop which is fucking amazing is,

I gotta get out of here man. This guy is nuts. Okay. That's Iggy Pop, which is fucking amazing is, I gotta get out of here, man. This guy is nuts. That's Iggy Pop, okay? The guy who cut himself on stage. Okay. Alice Cooper was sharing a story that Brian Wilson considered shortening bread to be the greatest song ever written. This is Alice Cooper's remark. I guess Cooper asked why did Wilson love shortening bread so much? And then the quote from Brian Wilson is, I don't know. It's just the best song ever written. So there you go.

And I mean, I could go on, but... What made you think about Short and Bread? Well, here it is. So here's where we're going. Where are we going? So here's the short and bread. It's a long fucking road, but people need to know about Short and Bread. Okay. So that was the Beach Boys version.

What songs do you think of when you hear that short and bread? Uh, do you think of any songs? I just feel like a raffy track. Like I think of a kid's song. We used to sing in public school. Here's the song that I think of, and I want to hear if I'm out to lunch on this. Okay. And I'm just going to play a bit and then I'll play this. You know what I think? I want to hear some funky Dixie land. Pretty much. I recognize that sound right away. Yeah. It's it's Doobie Brothers. Blackwater. You're good actually. That relation is close.

Oh. You're funny. Yeah. I googled it to see, oh, maybe everybody knows this shit. And I couldn't find anyone talking about this in Shortenbread. Yeah, I never thought of that. Shortenbread. Totally.

See, I think biscuits in the oven going to watch them rise. Biscuits in the oven going to watch them rise. From Rafi? Well, maybe that is a short and bread is. Yeah, it might be related. This was on one of my K-Tel records. I do believe I still have so many K-Tel records. I love the first three mini pops.

Wow. Original mini pops. OK, nine to five was great. Wow. You got to get to the end of the song. Well, here's what I'll do. I won't make people listen to the whole song because we have time restraints, but I'm going to play that part.

Yeah. Here's the acapella part. Ready? I love this when I was a kid. Come and take me by the hand. Believe her pain. Take me by the hand. Pretty mama. As a kid, I fucking loved this, too, this song. I'd like to hear some funk at Dixie Lambert and Mama. Come and take me by the hand. The band comes back in.

Take me by the hand. Pretty mama. Come dance with me baby. All night long. I'd like to hear some funk at Dixie Lambert and Mama. Come and take me by the hand. So in Black Water by the Doobie Brothers and of course this is the Southern Rock Doobie Brothers not the Stu Stone Michael McDonald version of the Doobie Bounce.

I have a Doobie Brothers connection. Ted Templeman the producer did our Honeymoon Suite album. Nice. Yeah he produced our third Honeymoon Suite album. Ted Templeton produced what? He also did every Doobie Brothers album. Nice. Yeah, he produced the third Honeymoon Suite album. Ted Templeton produced it. He also did, he did every Doobie Brothers album. Every Doobie Brothers. He did all the Van Halen albums.

So he did both pre-em posts. Oh wow. Yeah, crazy, right? So Blackwater, which is what I think of when I hear Shorten and Bread. That's so funny, that's a really good connection. I was hearing, this is interesting. So you heard that acapella part that I just played,

which is, everybody I think digs that, I don't know. Bob, do you dig the acapella part that I just played which is everybody I think digs that I don't know Bob Do you dig the acapella? I have a huge huge blind spot here. Okay Here's a song which I only discovered this song from the Simpsons because they played it on the Simpsons So I know it's a lot of songs. My daughter's discovering from the Simpsons. I discovered this song from the Simpsons I'm sure Rob Bruce is fluent in this song, but I'm going to play a bit of it and tell you. Oh my God, you're going to laugh your head off. This is Ted Templeman singing. Is this, is this Harper's Bazaar? This is 59th Street Bridge song.

This is Doobie Leather's producer, Ted Templeman, lead singer. Wow. Bob, have you ever heard this song? Yes, I know this. So I heard it. Feeling groovy, right? Yeah. Yeah, got to make the morning last just keep it now. Wow. Bob, have you ever heard this song? Yes, I know this. So I heard it. Feeling groovy, right? Yeah. Yeah, I know that. Is this Harper's Bazaar?

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. So this is? This is Ted Templeman. This is band? He was the lead singer in this group in the 60s. And then he became one of the hits.

Did he do Van Halen? Yeah. Yeah. I know this. He's in the audio octopse, too. Yep. Cool. And which Honeymoon Sweet album was it? The one I did, Racing After Midnight. Did you do Van Halen? Yeah. Yeah. I know this. He's in the auto-op talk too.

Cool. And which Honeymoon Sweet album was it? The one I did, Racing After Midnight At Night. So Mr. Burns sings a parody of this anyway. So I'm going to skip ahead now. Again, we're going to get cooking here. This is quite the stream of consciousness here. Here's the note.

Yeah, but this is- No, I like it. I like it. So I go on bike rides every day. You do? And I listen to stuff and then I think about stuff. And then I go, hey, G, G word, take a note. And then I, cause G word is a G word.

It's a, it's a big California tech company. Really? But if I say it, this guy here is going to wake up and fucking do it. Okay. So, Hey, G word, take a note. And then it saves it. My note that I say, yeah, get saved to Google. I didn't know you can do it.

And then the next you go to Google, keep, okay. Google keep is their notes thing or whatever, stupid name, whatever. So here's the acapella part of that song, which is called 59th Street Bridge song. OK, that's really acapella. I wanna hear some bad music I'm just gonna make a little change That's classical right there. It's so cool. Yeah. Their music is crazy. Oh, bassoon. Is that a... I was gonna say is that an oboe? That was a bassoon. Cool fucking song. Okay, so it turns out that acapella part we just played was directly influenced by the acapella part in the Doobie Brothers' Black Water. No Black Water, no 59th Street Bridge song. Yeah, but they're

backwards. This came first. I don't think so Yeah, yeah, this is like 67 or 68 and then the dude wrote is a 73. Okay, hold on but reverse It could be the opposite because if Ted Templeman is singing on this he would have taken that idea and used it for the Duby Road, it could be opposite. I've been knowing to get things backwards here, but we're gonna get this clarified here geez that can't be true, so 59th Street Bridge song, which of course is a Simon and Garfunkel song. So when did that version come out? We're doing this real time. So the Simon and Garfunkel version is 66. Okay. But the version with the acapella that was directly influenced by black water is of course Harper's bizarre 1967 version and do be brothers of 73. So it's the opposite.

It sounds like, okay, so that's a cool. So they're directly, uh, there I got it. So other than the fact that I'm 180 degrees wrong, but they're related though. That doesn't matter. See, I like this guy cause he helps you out. I fuck up and you're not fucking up. You just, you just reverse one last thing here. That was a Google note I took, and then we're going to get to outlier jams. Don't say that word. My mind blows. Uh, I say, Oh, I know what I catch to say. Hey, and then G word. Okay.

I don't know how this works or, or okay. G word. There's the two ways to get it to wake up there. Okay. So, uh, I shared this with, I think it was chef Jordan Wagman who came over and I gave him a sneak peek at this, but I'm going to play a song. You might've heard of this song before. I.

I wear my sunglasses at night. So, oh, yeah, same song. Same song. OK, so this comes first. That's an important now. I got this right. Yeah, OK. This comes first.

Yeah. But every time that thing fucking comes on the radio, I just, I am. Yeah, it's identical. Come on, it's hilarious. Yeah, you didn't just notice that, did you? No, no, no. I'm now just sharing it.

Oh, OK. Chef Jordan Wegman said he never connected those dots. Really? Oh. Somebody is discovering this for the first time. He's all about food. That's why. We could do an in-the-round thing of us.

You could do the song, and you're like, oh, this sounds like this. We could totally do that. That could be the whole two hours. That could be eight hours. Oh, you can do the song and you're like, Oh, this sounds like this. And then we can totally do that. That could be the whole two hours. Yeah, that could be eight hours. You say, Oh, you just keep going. The next FOTM cast, he says, it's going to be three hours of Cam and Tyler shitting on you all over you. Yeah. Thank you, Steve, for the observation.

He was your brother is very rude. Here's I want to say hi to some people on the live stream. Give you guys a couple of gifts and then we're going to hit outlier jam. Moose grumpies here. What's, I want to say hi to some people on the live stream, give you guys a couple of gifts and then we're going to hit outlier jam. Moose grumpies here. What's that? I just wanted to say, cause you've been mentioning your Google and the notes and stuff. I really want, I think that we got to talk about the AI world a little bit at some point and how I actually, I'm using it quite a bit right now and I'm finding it really helpful in a lot of ways. And I just, I have some, I have some samples of

things. Well, it depends how you use it. Like you use it for research purposes. I'm going to, I'm going to use it as a co-host on my show. Wow. I have no interest in hearing your co-host. Nobody's going to be funny. It's gonna be funny. It's funny. I don't think anything's funny about that, Bob O'let. It's like your ultimate improv cohost. Not as a cohost, just as a bit. Like an actual, yeah.

Don't worry. Like, it's, I literally- 30, 45 second bits. I found myself last night in between songs, I'm going back and forth on chat GPT and I'm riffing with chat GPT. And it's not unfunny. What I see now in my notes.

So I took notes on the shortening thing. Makes me think about Blackwater. Blackwater stole that acapella clip. See? So I actually in my notes know Harper's Bizarre versions first. Yeah. And Blackwater heard that and said, we're going to steal that for Blackwater. Doobie Brothers heard that and then stole it. So I see my notes got it right. So thank you notes here.

Okay. Thank God you wrote it down. And I have a little mind blow. I was going to share this after I shared the Brian Wilson's favorite song with Short and Bread. Do you know that Brian Wilson is not on Kokomo? Yeah. Yeah, I knew that. Yeah. But everybody knows that. But did you know it's because he says he wasn't told it was being recorded. Nobody even informed Brian

Wilson. They were recording Kokomo. Mike love did that. I don't know how much he was even in the band at that point. Yeah. But it is interesting. He wasn't invited. He didn't know it was even happening. Well, so there you go. All right. I'm going to give you guys a great gift. If you don't mind. I want to ask you a question though, happening. Wow. So there you go. All right, I'm going to give you guys a great gift, if you don't mind. I want to ask you a question though, Rob. Yeah. Did the Spoons ever play Regina? Yes.

I also played Regina with Phantom of the Opera. We, the one of the last cities I did on the tour was we were in Regina. Was that with Jeff from, With Jeff Hissle from today's special. From today's special? And, Wow.

Yeah, he was an amazing Phantom. It's the most Canadian day ever. Oh my God, yeah. But it's funny, because when you guys were talking about the KTEL, when you were talking last night, when I was listening last night and you talked about it, it was yesterday. And it was one of the last cities I did on the Phantom tour.

And I had the greatest rental car there from this company called Auto Host. And it was like a giant old like Chevy thing with one of those Radio Shack horns where you could program the horn to like play songs and stuff. Yeah. But like a little digital keyboard. Is that racist that song now? I don't know what song that was. The Dixie.

Ow. The Dixie. It's what the General Lee used to. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a whole bunch of General Lee's in my house still. Like with the car because I loved Duke's Hazard when I was a kid. Yeah. But Regina was a great town.

I loved it. Like, I mean, it was a little, it was a little bit. Yeah, but Regina was a great town. I loved it. Like, I mean, it was a little, it was a little bit of a small town, but a beautiful theater and it was such a cool place. Well, Al Grego went to Regina. With his, yes, yes, we are open. Cause season eight is dropping now. And the most recent episode features Ashley Donald.

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All expenses paid trip. A wireless speaker so you can listen to Al Grego's beautiful voice on Yes We Are Open. Thank you. Love it. Amazing. And I have a new sponsor. I thought he was gonna give us a gift basket. He's talking about all these gift baskets. I'm like, oh he's got a gift basket for us. Which one of you two has the dirtiest car? Well, my car, I was in a car accident three weeks ago. Oh geez. And I just, they just decided the car's not a write-off. My airbag went off. Yeah, it was not good.

Sorry to hear that. My rental right now is awesome. But yeah, and I've been lucky me. I was found at fault too, so that was good. Yeah, anyways. So my car is dirty. But yeah, actually. Bob got the dirtiest car.

No, no, no, but your car, it's a beater. It's a good one. I like your car. It's my mom's old car. It, it goes through fog and snow and sleet I like her. I think he okay. So Rob does my clicks. Yeah, he's got to come Oh, yeah, my means or whatever. Okay, so this is no Shitting you because I got some to use and I mean if you want a clean car that requires as little effort as possible Well, there's more than that. Hey, there's a bucket. I didn't have room on the table for it.

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This is the sample of the kit. I was gonna say, well now- Well, these two plus the bucket is the one of the robust kits. Wow. You're getting it. You're getting it. You're getting it because everybody, that's one. Well, I got my car back. We both get them. I think I'll get, I'll get, no, you know what? I'm going to talk to the good people at silver wax. This is a proud Canadian company. Okay. I'm only dealing with proud Canadian companies right now. Good. I will make sure. What about it? What about a Canadian company that Okay. Only dealing with proud Canadian companies. Right. Good. I will make sure

what about it? What about a Canadian company that's ashamed? Can we do a Canadian company that just feels ashamed? I don't know. Hey, you said only proud Canadian companies, proudly Canadian. I'm sure there's a Canadian company that hides it like, you know, drapes themselves. Not ashamed. No, no, not ashamed that they're Canadian. Ashamed of something even darker. ashamed that they're Canadian, ashamed about something even darker. Oh, okay. Well, this is important. The promo code to use at silverwax.ca. And it's important to use this promo code because you save 10% and it lets Silver Wax know it kicks ass to fuel the real talk on Toronto Mike. The promo code is Toronto Mike 10. So go to silverwax.ca, buy something, use the promo code Toronto Mike dot 10 sorry

Toronto Mike 10 you get 10% off if you do that but I will get a kit you'll leave here today with a kit each of you cool oh yeah thank you you kidding me you need a clean card too I have a gift for you no idea what it's gonna what's the gift for me so I found this in my backpack and I bought it a couple of months ago and it's a cherry blossom oh my god is it so can I eat it well yeah save museum piece because they're not gonna be made anymore I thought maybe a couple of months ago and it's a cherry blossom. Oh my God. Is it, so can I eat it or like to save it? Like a museum piece. Because they're not gonna be made anymore,

I thought maybe you just wanted to add it to the museum over there like. Well he'll eat it. He's gonna keep the box. Well you can choose to eat it or not because. How can I not? I've never had a cherry blossom. All right. What?

I know, never had a cherry blossom in my life. I mean I'm not a fan, but what? But you had, how many cherry blossoms have you consumed Bob? Not that many, my mom loved them. Yeah,, Bob? Not that many. My mom loved them. Yeah, see, it's a different generation. My mom loved them. You probably had one.

No, probably, yeah, you're probably right. When I was a kid, I had one, I'm gonna tie them up. And then I was like, no, I don't care for it. But I thought that because like, just hold onto the box anyways, even if you choose to eat it or not eat it, it'll taste the same in 10 years. Like that's the thing, like.

Oh, so you're saying they're just, yeah. Preserve it. Shelf stable. That's right. This is the word. Like a McDonald's hamburger. Yeah. Thank you, Rob Bruce, for the cherry blossom. That's a fair trade. A cherry blossom, a robust silver wax kit. I have something else to offer to you if you would like this. And I'll tell you what inspired me yesterday when I was driving, I listened to Rick Rubin.

The producer has a great podcast called Gramaton. And he interviews lots of really interesting people. And the biggest problem I have with his show is that he has sponsors and he has commercials that sound so good that I can't turn them off. What he does is like, I think he makes the commercials. Is it a live read or is it his voice? It's not even his voice. What it sounds like is like an old commercial

from like the 1940s or 50s with good old fashioned music and stuff. And I thought, man, I don't want to fast-forward through these because I'm should I do that on Toronto Mike? Yes. What I was gonna say is I'd love to make some music for you. It's like something that sounds kind of cool to play underneath your... Speaking of music, we have to set some... let the people know. I know. We promised last host that the next time, which is today right now, as we speak, you were gonna... we were gonna unveil a new closing theme of Toronto Mike and you're here to apologize to everybody. I am here to apologize. It's not ready.

It's how much was your pay for it? He's getting ready for this. He's getting a large lasagna. He's getting fresh craft beer from Braylech's brewery. He's getting a speaker from Monaris. He's getting a measuring tape from Ridley funeral car cleaner robust silver wax car cleaning for interior and exterior more can I ask we should have a drinking game now with the word robust that's right that's right but I've just a few days ago I finished up this I've been working on this film score for the national documentary oh my god cool amazing that is super cool yeah so, so the closing theme version two is a work in progress,

but I think I'm gonna have it for you for next week because I was really hoping I could get it to- But do you wanna unveil it with you here? Like do you wanna unveil it next to- No, I don't care about that. No, no, no, I'd be happy to just send it to you, for sure. Cause you tested it out with, I forget who the guest was.

It was Andy Kim, I believe. It's gotta be somebody who's in the know. Remember we went through a couple of variations before we settled on it? Right. And I think Andy Kim- I wasn't happy. No, I know, we refined we we we find it hard to work with Andy Kim was one of your guinea pigs But I'd also like to try some some advertising music for you to play so you can you can test it and see what you think You know what you had me at. Hello. Okay

I'll give you a couple of pieces of instrumental music that you can just play Underneath because I love when you sort of do your little sponsor bit I need to hear I need to hear what Rick Rubin's doing and I need to show us and I need, and I need to hear what you're thinking of because one of the things that I think how podcasts can be better than radio is that it doesn't sound like we're going to spot. Yes. Right. So I, I'm worried about the music. The humble and Fred show, which at one time the great Bob Willett produced. Now I'm now the great Mike CNN. produced. Now I'm trying- Now the great Mike.

The great CNN Mike is trying to fill in the shoes, okay? But what Howard does is I think he just thinks he's on radio still. He starts a song and then they do two live reads under the song. Cause I carved these out to send to the sponsor and I always know where to find them. Cause the music, like the music's like my cue,

but I didn't ask for this. And I always think, oh, you know, this is sort of like, might as well be pre-recorded cause they read a script on over the music. It's not like they're having an organic conversation about Tim Niblett or the Chambers plan or Kelsey's or whatever. Right. Right. Right.

So I always think, so that's to Bob's point. I will do your music bed, but it is sort of an audio cue for the listenership to skip. I always think so that's to Bob's point. I will do your music bed, try it out. It is sort of an audio cue for the listenership to skip. Yeah, I'm telling you, forward, 10 seconds, forward, 10 seconds. This is ongoing history. New music. Well, the one that the worst offender is

the Terry O'Reilly podcast under the influence where I know there's four minutes off the top that I skipped completely, but just two minutes. Yeah. What is it? A stop set in a radio station? It's four minutes off the top that I skipped completely, but there's four minutes. Yeah. What is it? A stop set in a radio station? It's four minutes of prerecorded bullshit. Like I hate it. I actually barely can listen to it. But then in the middle, there's two mid rolls. Wow. It's only a half an hour show.

Yeah. I find it excessive. The digital and in the two mid rolls, you get a couple of minutes each or whatever more prerecorded. And of course, I don't think anyone listens to any post role. Yeah. Who the hell is doing that? Well, I'm telling you the Rick Rubin style is unbelievable because they sound like off like the way you were playing those KTEL ads yesterday. It's like that, like like they're new ads for these companies, but they sound

like old things and you want it. It's so creative is what it is. Really creative. Well, that's I don't know if radio needs to bring some creativity. Yeah. The problem is most of the people have left. Right. Most of the creative. You're still there. I'm still there. I'm the only one. No, that's not true. No, there's lots most of the people have left. Right. Most of the creative people are still there. I'm still there. I'm the only one.

No, that's not true. No, there's lots of creative people where I am. I'm very lucky, but yeah, you know, we've lost a lot of great, great minds, you know, uh, and that creates, and the other part is with the corporate ownership, generally speaking, we haven't been that, that, that kind of creativity wasn't encouraged. Right. And now where I am, it w I can show you in the small, I can show you, I can show you an email from the owner of the company. I sent him something that was a little bit wacky that I did.

And he said, more of this, talk more, talk whenever you want. He goes, I want you. Because I heard you yesterday, Atlanta Gay doing the crossover and she basically is like, okay, we got to move on, Bob. Like, and I was thinking you're going to the music where I can get it on demand. Anything I can get on an unprogrammable iPod and I'm thinking as it just some idiot in his basement,

he's got a podcast. I'm thinking, this is the shit I can't get from Spotify. Why are you, why are you rushing Bob out from this crossover, which is the almost, and to get to the song that you just play every couple of hours. Well, and yeah, and that, and that's the balance, right? Like, I mean, it's, you know, the bricks and the mortar of radio, what it is. And I'll actually next time I come, I'll bring, well, I'll bring you a sample of one of the things that I'm literally trying to fuck things up.

I want to hear the AI, AI co-host. I'm literally trying to have like, like, do. Oh, I know what I did. Do you know the band, the Mono Whales, who you love? Of course, I come off the end of it. I was like, hey, every time I play Mono Wh whales, I think of got the mono mono, got the mom. What's that? Do you remember that? Of course I do. Yeah. It's a cocking. It's a car and I avoided cocking. I, I avoided the cock joke. I said,

but I and the Regina joke I did. We did. We w and so I said, I got to find the spot and I'm going to, I said, because, and then because of people started texting right away. Oh my God, I haven't heard of thought about that in ages. That's funny. I know we got to get to it. Uh, we got to get back to the actual show. But then I was playing black by Pearl Jam and out of the end where it goes, I was mixing in, got the model. And you don't fuck with the music on radio. You do now, you should,

cause you know what? We got to do something more fucking with them. You know what I want to hear as you play black. I want to hear Bob. We'll let give us fun facts Yes, about Pearl Jam and black So but my my pop-up radio the owner of the of the company literally said this is great do more Wow owner of a lonely heart, okay Jeremy Hopkins, you know, J ho he comes on every quarter. He's a well-dressed man Oh, yes, the official Toronto historian of trying you could borrow him on indie 88. I won't be offended. No, that'd be cool I am I also want to talk about because he the hats that he because yeah the the like barbershop quartet style

He's dashing but he wrote in I like Mike's method of delivering ads far better funny Sometimes which works so much better So Jeremy likes the live ad reads because you never know where it's going to go with the guest. Wait till you hear live ad reads with music. Okay. We're going to try it. I'll do anything. I've got some plans for you. Moose grumpy, big fan of chat GPT. She's playing with it as she watches us and East York Johns. I think this happened yesterday with, uh, my KTEL episode, but silver wax, but wait, there's more. This is for today tonight and get these free gifts to buy us Vaughn. Big fan of Nash. The slash is very excited that you are part of that. It's so cool. It's going to be great.

Al Greg goes on the live stream. He thinks we're talking about outlier jams. Now we're there now. He brings up one that I don't think we're kicking out today, but he thinks under the bridge is an outlier for red hot chili peppers. I would agree, agree I guess but it's also the biggest hit, right? Everything think about everything they released before that like mother's milk and Catholic schoolgirls rule like to come out with that Yeah, and like that change that that changed that band for sure. Yeah without a doubt, but there's another band We're not kicking out but we should just, for some CanCon, we should talk about One Thing by Finger 11. Oh, Finger 11.

Yeah, I had that on my list, but I didn't want to do it. Okay. But now is the time for Outlier Jams. Let's do it. Outlier Jams brought to you by RecycleMyElectronics.ca. That's where you go if you have old electronics, old devices, old cables. You don't throw it in the garbage. You go to recyclebyelectronics.ca,

put in your postal code. This won't work in Queens, but it'll work for your mom in Burlington. And find out where to drop it off to be properly recycled. Any words before your first outlier jam, Rob Pruss of Spoons fame? Nope, I think this was the first song at the top of my head because they're all kind of obvious to me, but yeah.

["Spoon's Fame"] song at the top of my head because it's kind of, they're all kind of obvious to me, but yeah. Many are vintage in this band. I got this one first to get it out of the way for you because I know you don't like the band. Well, you know. I can't stand this band either. I know that like people love them like my people of his vintage Oh Mike McCready of pro. I love skin. How old is Mike McCready? You have to be a teenager when he's or younger

Yes, we have your old prodigy. You were all annoying girls do this is Definitely an outlier Jim You're a prodigy, Rob. You were always a TV. No, no, eight year olds did. This is, uh, This is... Definitely an outlier jam. Produced by good Canadian Bob Ezrin. So is this... Who's doing the vocals here? This is the drummer, Peter Chris. This is Peter Chris doing the vocals.

So, in the concert, the coolest thing of all, because not only is the bombastic awesomeness of a Kiss concert, you know know lights and shit moving in all and flames and whatever in like three quarters through the show they'd bring it all down Peter Chris would they bring out a stool Peter Chris would come out to the front of the stage they'd play the tape it was just a track it was a track and he'd sit there and sing the song yeah in full oh yes he'd come up from behind the kit and sing this out.

So gimmicky and sticky, this makeup bullshit. We loved it. It was all, come on now. You had to be there. Look, I liked wrestling, so it's fine. Alice Cooper too. I did. Alice Cooper I saw last summer and he's still at 75.

70 something, yeah, yeah. Like he still has it. He killed it. It was amazing. And Gloire, your favorite band, right? Right. Yeah. I love them. But it taps into something, something deeper and like, like really organic when you have makeup on and it's like the old Japanese theater called Kabuki where they would have course that's where kiss got that

shit. Right. So, so when you have a mask on what that's cultural appropriation. Okay. That wasn't that. And it's not now either. It's a, it's not, tell that to Gwen Stefani, put a dot on her forehead. Well, that's different. These guys, they didn't dress like a Kabuki girls or, you know, they did sing Christine 16, which was inappropriate last show. That was problematic, but, but Beth is a beautiful song. And, um, so, so you like the song. I love this song. And of course it's a beautiful song. And so- So you like this song. I love this song.

And of course- You know what, it's a nice song. Yeah, it's an outlier of course, but they were already well known because they had Rock and Roll All Night was already a hit. Was it? Okay. But this, you know, a ballad is like a safe hit for a lot of rock and roll bands,

especially in the seventies, right? Yep. It was a given. Alice Cooper as well, he had some real awkward jams as well. Just one popped in my head. Def Leppard's Love Bites. Love Bites, yeah. Which had some real awkward jams. I just one popped in my head. Def Leppard's love bites. Oh yeah. Probably their biggest fucking hit. I don't know. Maybe the thing. So the theme.

So what I decided to do instead of a lot of, uh, like mind blows, mind blows is I just thought I'd flip on the B side of each single because it's cool to hear because somebody might hear Beth and go some, some, you know, mom might go, Hey, this is really cool. Like I love this song. But then the B side, you flip it over, and this is what you get. Oh, that was smarter than what I did. ["Best Kiss Song"]

OK. Now, see, this doesn't suck. Until you start singing. There it is. Now it sucks. But this is the best kiss song, right? And they're all going to be sung. I want to rock and roll all night and party every day

the only two that I think like this one really listen to this bass line wait no I like this what is this it's called the Troy Rock City this was the B side the back how smart are they though that's fun fact for me that I used to play both of these songs in my band when I was 11. I had an old recording I was going to bring. I was like, it's too much. Like, you know, yeah, we would play all the songs and we love Kiss. Our band was called Black Diamond, which was a Kiss song. Yes.

So I've seen Pearl Jam enough times that McCready will often do, well, we'll cover, they did Black Diamond actually with Matt Cameron doing the vocals. The drummer, yeah. Oh my God, it's so fun. I feel like Trans Canada Highwaymen, those guys about age, love their kiss. They would love, yes. Yeah.

There's actually right now, there's a conversation on Billy Corgan's, having a guest on. He's got a new podcast. Yeah, his podcast's really new. So Billy Corgan talking to Tom Morello. Yes. I was gonna tell you just right now about Tom Morello.

Yeah. Well, I went to the induction ceremony. You were gonna tell me about Tom Morello? About him going to tell you just right now about Tom Morello. I went to the induction ceremony. You were going to tell me about Tom Morello? About him inducting Kiss into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I was there. They did it in Brooklyn in like 2014 or whatever. And his induction was so fantastic. He's my generation too. When he talks about Kiss and what it meant to us, you get it. You know he's friends with Tim Welch.

Tim needs to come on. I've asked Tim to come on. I'm going to let Tim. I've asked him to come on. He lives just in East York. I worked with him for years at the Phoenix. I love Tim. He's one of my favorite people. He won't come on my podcast. He won't?

He doesn't. He's like, nobody wants to hear about him. I'm working on Toronto. He's one of those guys. I'm working on CNN Mike with Tim. Tobias Vaughn says, this is the best kiss song. I don't mind this at all. East York John says, Hard Luck Woman is also a very excellent

outlier kiss jam. It's sort of an outlier, for sure, because Peter Chris sang that one as well. And that was more of like a country song. East York John says hard luck woman also a very excellent For sure because Peter Chris saying that one as well and that was more of like a country song Jho says kids love kiss. He made a kiss comic book printed with real kiss blood in the ink They they published that in 77. Yeah, it was a psychiatrist. Yeah That's amazing. I was oh man. I had something else that's gone. Oh VPS sales Named his daughter Beth, but wants me to know that he didn't name his daughter after this song That's what he said in the song bad. I'm just that'd be funny. I need my kid Detroit after this Okay, so we see the movie Detroit Rock City

Terminator 2 yes, that's right. It's a good film. It's really fun. I think he had a tough life, actually. I feel like he's one of those child stars that didn't turn out as good as Su Stone. Oh, the kid who played from C2? Oh, yeah. Eddie Furlong. Eddie, Eddie Furlong, that's right. I got to look into how Eddie's doing. He's still with us, at least, which is half the battle right there.

OK, well, good start. Beth from Kiss is an outlier, James. Yep, absolutely no disagreements. Yeah, no arguments here. Now, I can't wait till we get an argument this when it gets fun okay by the way I want to say the may not be warm outside I may have worn a balaclava for my morning bike ride but the sunny side session IPA is warming up the cockles of my heart Bob any words before I kick out the outlier jam no go for it. Rhythm is both the song's manacle and its demonic charge.

Yeah, I don't know if you'll know this. The rhythm, the rhythm, the rhythm, the rebel. Without a pause, I'm more in my level. That's a Public Enemy sample. Oh, that's an FOTM sample. That's Chuck T. Is it Chuck T? That's the rhythm.

The rhythm, the rhythm, the rhythm. Much music, 1989, naive. Yeah, I put this on the Master Tee dance mix. But it makes no difference what persuasion you want. So listen to the voice, OK, Rob? Get up, get on the floor, start working sweat up. Will I recognize it? Uh, maybe.

You should. The physical measure that makes you move. Soon as the needle's dropped into the groove. So get up and dance to the gift I'm giving. Forget all your troubles. Get into the rhythm. Hearing get up and dance to the gift I'm giving. Forget all your troubles. Get into the rhythm. Hearing it now in the headphones, it's got a very Will Smith vibe.

That's true. Like summertime almost. Yeah. Drums please. The vocals, the rap vocals, yeah. On the Alpine. Yeah. No, you're right.

It's a very similar sample. So this is a rapper by the name of Everlast. And he came out, this was his first single actually and he was dressed in a suit and he had like slick back hair he was a super we would have called him a prep in it but in the day he was up and he would have been he was being played alongside like CNC Music Factory and even Marky Mark probably good vibrations. What year? This is like 90 ish early 90. Yeah. Okay. And so we saw this, we knew this song. This was again,

part of that, that era around that new Jack swing sound. And then that was the only one I was thinking of. Yes. Yeah. Um, there's a cover of don't make me over by Sibyl that sounds very similar to that. It's that beat. It's that sample, which was also in the Vampire Weekend song that I played. So this comes out, and it's like a moderate hit, I would say. And then, I don't know if he ever last had another single for a while, and then this comes out. Afterwards, he he joins a band or he starts a band and

this Still fucking love this song This is ever last is the lead rapper in house of pain Who wants to rap this with me? Oh, I can do it. Oh man. Great song. Same guy. Same guy. That's amazing. Totally changed his look. Had the Boston Celtics jersey on.

It was a total, like you would call it, like you know how people got mad at Lana Del Rey? Because she did that with her career. Like if people had a 24 hour news cycle and everything in their hands in the early 90s, they would have called this guy out for being a poser in a second. Or maybe like even like a jagged little pill. Yeah, that's true. Maybe we had to be, hey, this was her five years ago. I mean, Canada knew that.

But the United States didn't know that, right? Always too hot, never too cold into that. So this is obviously, this is Everlast is the main rapper in House of Pain. And then, and this is a huge, huge. This CD, I own this CD. It was called fine Rock lyrics, she might know lyrics. No shamrocks and shenanigans, isn't it? No, I don't think so I think I think the other thing more lyrics I think maybe that's the other thing

So, but I remember I put on your shit kickers and kick some shit Yeah, yeah, I mean there was a top of the morning with a song. That's right. Just pump it at 11 I don't know top of the morning to you know I mean you had to you had to be you had to be, you had to own this disc, I think. But I was a fan. I encourage you to go look up that video and watch the two videos kind of side by side to see how much they changed themselves.

Wow. But they also, you know what, I mean, I don't know if he was friends with DJ Lethal, who's a real DJ, right? Who's been, technically been on the show, weird, he'd be on live streams when his dear friend Stu Stone was right So DJ lethal is the DJ in this band

So I don't know what I I didn't look that deep into the how did he go from being the rhythm the rhythm? Wearing a suit and trying to be all cool to this guy. I don't really know the story of course Limp Bizkit's DJ is DJ lethal right but that's a little tour still We're still almost ten years away from there like we're like eight years away from that and Then whitey forging students seeking the blues is probably his I mean, that's it. So this is all we should do there. I didn't want to do what it's like because we always Literally on q107 yesterday, I heard what it's like. Yeah Yesterday and the second single off

This is second single off of this. This is the second single off of waiting for the same guy. You know, it's just to the ever last. When I think about it, I go for it to the bigger one. You're right. When I think of ever last, I think of this. This is a great song. This is Whitey Ford sings this was a disc plane when I got in my worst car accident in 1999, with FOTM Mark Carey in the passenger seat on the 401. And I almost rode off the 99

Potage in 1999. Wow. This was the disc that was in the CD player. The album by the way was self-titled. Why do we think it's called Find More Lyrics? Maybe that was written on the cover or something. Yeah and Shamrock and Shanadegas was the second single. Yeah. Yeah. I think radio has burned this song to a fucking crisp. I can't stand it now. It's played a lot, like I heard it on cue yesterday. It tests well, that's why they play it. It tests very well. When this first broke, we were like,

this is a guy from Jump Around. So this is the guy from Jump Around? Yes, same guy. See, that's more of an outlier, Like to me, they're all outliers. But it's not an outlier because he did a whole album of this. Yeah, I see. I think the first song's the outlier because it's got that... It's got the beat to it.

That's the most outlier. This was quite the pivot by Everlast. Yeah. Who had a heart attack at like 40. I remember that was a big thing. Oh, you can have a heart attack at 40. Wow. There you go. That's Everlast. Also, they censored this song for the radio in a weird way, like

Smoked Finest Greens. Shout out to Canada Kev. Why are you censoring greens? Oh, well, so here's when I had this conversation the other day because of Tom Petty, let's roll another joint. When that song first came out, radio censored the word joint. Seriously. But maybe the artist censors it for radio. No. So they don't have to worry about it. The label would maybe, not the artist.

I'm telling you, the artist wouldn't. The label would. Sure. We got damn the funny man, shootin' love, this ball. What a start to the outlier jam. There you go. Okay, I don't even know how to compete,

but I'll do my best, okay? Thank you Everlast. They call her a sinner, they call her a whore. They censor that too, I think. Yeah, yeah, of course. Ready for my Outlier Jam? Yeah, go for it. Hit it.

Oh my God, my phone's playing music. I can hear it coming back here. Sorry. Outlier jam! She was my woman I love her so But it's too late now I've let her go I'm going through changes. I'm going through changes. Name that band. It's Black Sabbath.

Black Sabbath. Oh, I recognize the Mellotron in the background, the keyboard. Yes, the Mellotron. Yes, I'm glad you, uh, you recognize it. That's, uh, I take, I take a Mellotron every day. That's Geezer Butler and Tony Iommi using that Mellotron. They kind of create a sound of an orchestra here. Okay. So this is a heavy metal band, but of create a sound of an orchestra here. Okay, so

This is a heavy metal band, but you wouldn't know it from this song. Okay, the song is called changes So the I'm going through changes is some from another song No, I'm about to blow your mind. Hang in there Bobby. Will it in the 88 zone? Can't believe I'm lucky enough to get him as a regular guest Honestly, okay. So this of course the voice you hear belongs to Ozzy Osbourne. Yeah, young Ozzy. Wow. And this is 1972. Wow.

It's on volume four. I guess they were them and Led Zeppelin like to name their albums like that. Okay, okay. So Black Sabbath. Okay, so the melody here was composed on the piano by Tony Iommi, who's the guitarist for the band. Keazer Butler wrote the words. This is of course the voice of Ozzy Osbourne. Gotta hear an influence on Queen even in a song like this. Oh yeah, for sure.

This was inspired by the drummer's breakup with his first wife, the drummer Bill Ward, that inspired this song. So this is very, quite a departure. They had a well-known sound at the time. What a departure. Outlier jams always seemed, with rock bands, they always seemed to involve a piano. Melotron, you're right. You got it right away. I recognize that sound. So I have two mind blows, but maybe I'm going to let people know a typical sound for Black Sabbath because Levi Fumka might not know Black Sabbath, okay? So we need to look out for the people who aren't metalheads like Midtown Gorg.

All right, so let's listen to something more Black Sabbath-y. Oh my God, it still sounds so good. More black Sabbathy. Oh my God, it still sounds so good. This is a great song. Yeah. Yeah. I'm frowning all the time This is a great song. Yeah. Yeah. This and War Pigs are the two. Sure. Oh, I watched the Junos. Did anyone watch the Junos? I saw some of them. There was a band. I wish I could fucking remember the name of the band. But they interloped the War Pigs guitar sound into this song. They performed live at the Junos and I thought it was rad. Oh, it wasn't that girl band, that punk band? Bandside? Is there a... The girls, it wasn't all the girls?

It wasn't the girls. It wasn't the Beaches. The Beaches. No, no, there's another band. Wait, what are they called? Maybe it was... Is there a Bayside? Like a band named after the Bayside? Yeah, yeah. I believe it was on Saved by the Bell. Yeah, the Tigers. Are you kidding me? I'm a Saved by the Bell expert, okay? When they went to Hawaii. Okay. So I have to tell you that this is what you'd expect Black Sabbath to sound like. Not like changes, but some people listening are like, I know that Black Sabbath song. Maybe this is where Bob was going. Okay? No, no. I know unhappy. Same song. That's a cover. Really?

This is a cover of the Black Sabbath song, Changes. I have lost the best friend. This guy's name was a Record Store Day thing, wasn't it? Well, it's more... We're gonna find out how savvy you guys are, but this is Charles Bradley. Oh, this is Charles Bradley? Yep. It was a Record Store Day thing. It was 2013. It was a Record Store Day Black Friday single. But most people hearing this right now might know it from my son and daughter, my older son and daughter I was gonna say you're gonna let your young kids watch this show. No, no, no. Oh, it kind of tells you about puberty and stuff

Yeah Wouldn't be so bad I'm going through changes This cover of the Outlier Jam by Black Sabbath is the theme of the popular cartoon on Netflix, Pigment, is it? Yeah, it's a theme song. It's really good. Which will teach you about puberty, menstruation, hair on your nuts.

What's his name's voice for the hormone monster, sleeping at pig. It's like one of my, oh my god, what a great character. So there you go. This could also be... Charles Bradley was a James Brown impersonator. Yeah, he's got a great voice. Great soul music jam here. It's funny how you can change the feeling of a song when somebody else does it because now it sounds like an old... Well, I swear to God, yeah. When I first heard that, I didn't know it was... I thought I had to... I examined it.

Wow. Because I loved it as the theme song and then found out after all the... And then your mind blow, of course, is that's a cover of a Black Sabbath song? Yeah. That is a mind blow. And then you hear changes and you're like, that's Black Sabbath? Like it's such a beautiful ballad. Okay, set us up for your second jam. Mr. Rob Bruce.

I don't have anything to set up, but just listen to how beautiful the opening is. Sounds like love rains over me by the who that opening. See, I couldn't tell you anything else they've done. Oh, and Pearl Jam did an amazing cover of Love Rains Over Me. Oh yeah, they do. They all do. I can't tell Bob anything about Pearl Jam. Silicon chip inside her head Get switched to overload And nobody's gonna go to school today

She's gonna make them stay at home And daddy doesn't understand it He always said she was good as gold And he can see no reasons Cause there are no reasons. What reason do you need to be sure? Tell me why I don't like Mondays. Tell me why I don't like Mondays.

Tell me why I don't like Mondays. I wanna shoot. The whole day down. You can be sure when I was 14 and this was on CFNY and I was so excited to learn this piano song. Yeah, yeah, at that point. Have you done all your, like are you 14, like are you grade eight conservatory? I was doing grade eight, grade nine-ish, yeah, yeah.

And there was very little piano in the new wave era. Like I was like- A lot of keys, but not piano. A lot of organ and synthesizer kind very little piano in the new wave era. Like I was like, a lot of keys, but not organ and like synthesizer kind of stuff. And when this song came out, I was like, Holy shit, there's actually a piano in this song. I was so excited because it reminded me sort of a Beth actually, because with as much as I loved kiss, then they had a song with a piano. I was like, Holy shit, this is the coolest thing ever.

So it was very exciting to me. And actually I saw them play, uh, at Seneca college, the boomtown rats. Oh wow. They tour it. because this song came out in 79. It was a hit in like an early 1980. Yeah. 45 years ago. Amazing. So I went, I actually went to see Boomtown Rats with the original keyboard player from The Spoons because he was a friend of mine. And then you kicked him out of the band. I kicked him out of the band. Who made the Sopranos logo. Exactly. Boom. That's crazy. See how everything's connected? It's all connected right? So we saw Boomtown Rats at Seneca College touring for this album. The album is called The Find Our Adversing. And Ken Gordon is now the Communications Director at Seneca College.

Is he really? Listen. It's so beautiful. I wanted to ask you, do you, so in the, do you, you don't, you might not even know, but in the recording, is it a legit piano? Oh yeah, for sure. In those days it was piano. It's not a synth. Nope, there were no synths to do that sound in those days. Oh really? Oh yeah, no samplers, no nothing. So all the synth that was out there, you couldn't make a piano sound yet? Not at all. What year is this Rob? 79. Really? So for sure they had either like a baby grand or something in the studio. Wow, okay. And so when they tou either like a baby grand or something in the studio Wow, okay And so when they toured their Yamaha had a Yamaha had a piano called the Yamaha electric piano

Which was poured it was an actual acoustic piano with strings. Wow, you could fold it in half and tour with it Wow, okay before we get to the B side, I want to do a little mop up So I'm showing this this Juno's performance. I like to have pigs in church I'm calling them bass sides for some reason. I know it's an pigs in church. I'm calling them Bay Sides for some reason, because I know it's tied to- That's an American band. I looked it up. You were right. They're called Peach Pits. Oh, Peach Pits.

Peach Pits has been around for- It's not Saved by the Bell. It's 902 and 0. It was 902 and 0. But my brain really- Related. Oh, Peach Pits has been around. They're like contemporaries of Crystal Castles and Mastercraft. A little more mop up here is that 1236 an FOTM Hall of Famer. Yes. Hello. 1236 says Ben Rainer FOTM Ben Rainer is on a video

with Charles Bradley at the Toronto Star because Charles Bradley did a live performance at one young street, one young street by the way, it's going to be the country's tallest skyscraper is going to be at one young really it's going to be the, the country's tallest skyscraper is going to be at one young really, it's going to go 105 stories. The penthouse, which is $30 million is going to be the same level as the observation deck. And I need to tell you on building Toronto skyline with Nick Aini's from fusion corp. We did an episode about both of these buildings. So we did an episode on one young street

with the people making that. And then we did an episode on the CN Tower, which is most recent episode. And I liked the CN Tower episode so much with a guy named Jack Mesley, who was an iron worker who was building the CN Tower, that I actually booked Jack Mesley to be my guest on Toronto Mike.

No way. To do a deep dive into the CN Tower. That's cool. His story was so amazing. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home for One Young Street, which is now gonna be a no longer Toronto Star building, but also Charles Bradley, who I learned of course, passed away in 2017.

Yes, right. So that great soul singing, funk singing, Charles Bradley, that voice has been silenced sadly. We did a big opening at the CN Tower when CFNY moved their antenna up there in oh yeah 45 no but we like we're like special guests like it was a big party thing yes and there was something that we filmed for city TV where I was like in an elevator like bringing fans up or something it was like all this weird bullshit stuff so funny 40 years ago you want the B side yeah so this is the B side of Boomtown Rats. No, 50 years ago. Oh, no, no, 41 they got on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. CN Towers 50. Yes, I'm sorry. So this song, in that era, the most exciting thing to me, like to music listeners, was that when you had an album from the band you loved, they would release a single. The most exciting thing was to get the import single because there would be a song on the B side that was different, not even on the album. So you'd have one more song.

So this was Boomtown Rats and this was not on the Fine Art of Surfacing. In North America, are the Boomtown Rats a one hit wonder? For sure. For sure. Except everybody knows Bob Geldof from Live Aid, of course, from Do They Know It's Christmas. They know he's important, but they don't know his other music. Did you know the guy who worked with him on Do They Know It's Christmas? He is an FOTM. Mr. Midge, I know. That's a very cool thing. Now he's flating himself. Yeah, well, we went, Cam Gordon and I went to the Elma combo to see Midge here. Yeah. And it was, oh, it's him in a box, right? It's him, but it's him pressing play on

the laptop and then singing to it. And I don't know what the difference is between that and karaoke. Yeah, not much, except that you wrote the song. Bob, would you see a legacy artist if they just, everything was pre-recorded except the vocals? Well, I saw Howard Jones at Eden Fest 96. And, uh, and he was so he's past his prime at that point. It's 96.

Comes out in a yellow suit, like, but he has a synth with him, right? He's got like two. So is it any different than going to see Fatboy Slim? Is it any different than going to see Underworld or Chemical Brothers? I don't know because a Fatboy Slim, Norm Cooke, he was always a DJ.

Like that was it. That's the vibe. But meanwhile, mid-year these songs had a band behind them. That's true. Thomas Doby did the same thing and it really worked for Thomas because he was very open about it. What he did, I saw him in a club in New York like 15 years ago, 20 years ago even, and he would come up with all the synths. He wore a camera on his head and he would sort of like on a screen show you how he would build up a song, which was kind of interesting.

Ed Sheeran did that at Skydome, like on a whole tour, just like with the sampling. But how much would somebody have paid to see Midge-er, or Midge-er, or whatever? I don't have that information, because I was comped. Yeah, so- Because the guy who promoted it put me on a list,

because he's an FOTN. If you're a huge like if okay if In 30 years, I'm still alive. I'm 80 years old and Eddie Vedder is 90 and He's playing somewhere and he's gonna be doing karaoke. I'm going I would but wouldn't you rather see him? Just have a guitar or just the piano. That's the difference right to me Oh, like I saw Midge do a solo show in New York and it was just him on a guitar Yeah, and he and a keyboard. But an interesting conversation,

cause he pressed his play and then he sings along to it and you're like, am I seeing, what was this band called? Ultravox. Ultravox, yeah. How dare you? Well, I missed them. I'm only a little older than Bob Dylan. You also just shat all over Bob Geldof's music there,

like talking about Midge-er. But that was what they normally sound like. So the old liar is, I don't like Mondays. That's right. Uh, fun fact from 1236, the Boomtown Rats album cover, uh, by Toronto painter, painter Lauren Miller. That's right. Well, Lauren was discussed on a shout out to Ridley funeral home segment we had on

Toronto mic back in the good old days when Mark Weisblat would visit once a month. He's coming back. Is he? Yeah. Do you know this? Have you talked to him? No. Then why do you think he's coming back? Because I have a feeling I'm putting it out's coming back. Is he? Yeah. Do you know this? Have you talked to him?

No. Then why do you think he's coming back? Because I have a feeling I'm putting it out into the universe. Does he mad at you or something? No, I don't think he's mad at me at all. He did come to a Christie Pitts recording. We had to get chat.

I know I talk, I chat with Mark Wisebott every day. He's on the live stream right now. Would you go on the live stream for somebody you're mad at? Yeah, probably just to throw her old insults. Also, so the reason is, so Bob Geldof saw the painting, The Fine Art of Surfacing. Yes.

And that's where the Lorne Miller connection. It's such a good album. I can't tell you like as far as new wave albums, that turn of the era, it's unbelievable. And J-Hope points out that people are buying tickets to hologram shows of dead performers. I know. Is that true?

Yes, well not necessarily dead. Lana was in London and saw there's a hologram at the Abba show. The Abba show is supposed to be amazing. At least they're alive. Like, is anybody buying tickets to see a dead artist? There's some weird Elvis tour, hologram. Oh yeah.

With his old band members. Yeah, but Elvis fans are nuts. So the answer is yes, yes they are. Okay, so there's something for everybody here. Okay, so good job. I think the first round of Outlier Jams kicked ass. Okay, and I'm excited to play Ball Boy Led Second. We're in the second round. We're in the second round of outlier jams, good job. Okay. And I'm excited to play ball. But let's say we're in the second second. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're almost halfway there. Okay. Halfway through this song.

We'll be happy. Was this, was this one? I think this might've been mentioned in the, in the group chat. I don't, or my mother. Oh no, it's not. No, it's not. That's a good outlier jam. Bob knows his shit. Why do you think he's here? Why do you think he's replacing? Is he replacing Cam or Stu? Which one are you?

I don't know. Cam doesn't like me, remember? That's right. Cam's missing out. At TMLX18, I want a photo of Cam Gordon and Bob Lillett. Yeah. Hugging. Hugging. Hugging.

Woo! Woo! Was this song in Revenge of the Nerds? Probably. Sounds like it. Yeah, I don't know. It might be confusing if it did, but it was that style anyway. So this is like same as the era, it's like like pump up the volume. Oh, this is way before.

Yeah. Oh, what year was 1990? This is 1983. Pump up the volumes, not 1990. No, it's like 89. Yeah. It's I'm going to find out it's Mars, right? Yeah. That was a big jam.

This rocket is 1983. Yes. It's very, it was taking the scratch. He was scratching. This is one of the first things that ever had scratching for pump up the volume. I was slow. Not that much before. No, but in those days, things were moving fast.

Yes, I think, not like now, where things are slow. Yeah, that's why we needed rapid facts. Exactly. How much music? That's right. So this is, obviously this is Herbie Hancock, who went in 1983 when I'm seven years old and the video has the legs walking and yeah.

And it was cool and people were like, what is this? It was very cool. It was very cool. And then you find it. Then I found out years later, oh, he's a jazz artist. And you find, and I have friends who love jazz. I still don't feel smart enough to love jazz. I feel like I just don't get it.

You're no Ralph Ben Mergay. Yeah, I'm not. I'm definitely no Ralph Ben Mergay. Or James B. So this one, uh, best, I didn't even know this existed, but it won a Grammy for best R and B instrumental. Yeah. So I don't even know. Does that, but does that even still exist? That a word? There are no words. Um, so the video, you know, with the robotic legs is created by Godly and Cream. Yeah, that's right! Cry.

I forgot. That was one of my favorite videos as a kid. You see in Toronto Rocks or whatever. Because the face is melded in a sort of black or white Michael Jackson way years before. So there's a whole bunch of stuff for Crush. It's really crazy, right? There's synthesizers, there's a bunch of samples and Oberheim DMX. That's the drum machine.

That's the drum machine that does it. That was the princess drum machine as well. And not the rapper. Yes. Grandmaster Kaz does like who's from... He's drifting again. I just want to point out the live stream, whatever. But you do drift. He doesn't like me. No, no, it's not you.

I like to have a view. OK. So the producers on this song, Michael Beinhorn and Bill Laswell, like they're unbelievable guys. And this was one of their early projects. And they worked with young Whitney Houston in a band called Material before she did anything else.

He did this on the 1985 Grammy Awards. With Thomas Dolby. Yes, and Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder. I was there. And Howard Jones. You were at that show. No, I wasn't there. I saw it on TV. But you know, they're in Burlington. I was in Burlington in front of my TV enjoying it. The Grammys were in Burlington?

So this, you know, Rolling Stone magazine called this 130, number 131 on the 200 greatest dance songs of all time. This was just in, and then Billboard ranked it 39 it 39th in the 100 best dance songs. So then I just went and picked out some other Herbie Hancock stuff. For the contract. Oh yeah. I never thought of what an outlier is. And of course a very popular modern music song,

Samples of Us Three. Is that what they're calling it? Oh really? Yeah, that's cool. Remember the Cantaloupe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. How do you rank hits for a jazz person, you know?

I just kind of, I was like, okay, which one? No, this is one, like a Herbie Hancock, people will recognize it, if not from nothing else, from Cantaloupe. Yep. Kipchip. Zip Fantasia. Yeah. So that is, I would say Rocket is probably

one of the most strident outlier jams ever. It's number one for sure. Is he hitting it out of the park today? He really is. No arguments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's more. Wait till my last one.

I got another Herbie Hancock there for you too, I think. See, this is the, like this one, this is going and hanging out at the Rex. Oh, this is cool. You know? And like, I mean, obviously hoping to see something like... And I've done it. Oh no, this is great. No, no, this isn't strident enough. This isn't weird enough. This is actually kind of like normal music.

The best R&B instrumental performance no longer exists. I didn't think so. It was awarded for the last time in 1993 to the coolest motherfucker on the planet, Miles Davis. Oh, there you go. Might as well retire after that. Herbie won it again in 85 for Soundsystem. This information is brought to you by the VP of NoSales.

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Herbie Hancock I didn't want to learn about any jazz music or anything like because it was so different It was just like so few like forward sounding. It's like the future. like, because it was so different. It was just like so few, like forward sounding. It was like the future. Yeah. Oh, it was. No, it's Herbie Hancock. No, Axel F. That's not Herbie Hancock. No, it's Harold Fultemeier.

It is in these movies. It is in Hot Rod. It's in the Beanie Bubble and it's in Zoolander. That's in Zoolander. But nothing around that time. No, that's right. And it was in an episode of The Simpsons, of course, an episode of Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Yeah. And it was on Saturday Night Live. I guess he played it live. He was a musical guest in 1985.

Wow. That was around the time of the Grammys probably. Oh, it was played in episode five of season five of Six Feet Under. Wow. Okay, good job everybody. You want to hear my second Outlier jam? Yes, please. That was quick. Pepper! Sorry, Martin Streak used to do that. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home Again I didn't tell you any of their other music

It's a really slowed down See, I think of a different song. They were drinking from a fountain that was boring like an avalanche coming down the mountain I don't mind the sun sometimes the images it shows I can taste you on my lips and smell you in my clothes Cinnamon and sugar and softly spoken lies I know it just happens, I don't know what it is. It's pretty cool. So yeah. Shout out to Jimi Hendrix. This is from Electric Larry land.

A 1996 album from butthole surfers. Now, the fact this thing charted this was like an alt rock hit is unbelievable. I mean the band is called Butthole Surfers. This band, there's no radio friendly unit shifters in this catalog but this one was a hit. So you like it Rob, you're the musicologist here. We just play one on podcasts and on the radio. Rob what do you think of this song? You're the musicologist here. We just play one on podcasts and on the radio. Rob, what do you think of this song? I like it, but I don't know what it is. Yeah, it's super cool. Yeah, I fucking love it too. It's great. It's got a great noise thing to it in the background.

And I love the talking version. And it's a great song. You know who it reminds me of? You were singing a song at the beginning. Millie Vanilli. To me, it's Beck. From Mellow Gold. What year would this be for Butthole Servers? This is 96. Post Mellow Gold. In fact, if I hear...

You could probably say if there was no Beck, there would be no... Voices of Evil on an Amazon. So it's Loser. Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A parody of Loser, but another hit. He's playing with the TSO. Is he?

Oh, he's doing it on a rehearsal tour. That's right. Wow. Okay, so what do they normally sound like? I don't even know what the pullback is. It's wild shit. I'm gonna tell you a bit about Gibby Haynes. Were you a fan?

Were you a fan? Did you have this? No, I didn't own it at all. I didn't, like this is a band I only knew from Pepper. Like, what is butthole surfers? Like, I think, you know, I knew it from Beavis and Budhead. Oh, right. Oh, really? Yeah, I loved I still watch Beavis and Budhead.

I love Beavis and Budhead. Some of the funniest things. Mike Judge's the funniest. That boy ain't right. I dropped that with a guest last week. I, I, I played a, out of Philly, Eilish I played a Jim Carrey going, Oh, Billy from cable guy. That's people were like, what the hell was that? Okay. So here's a little bit of like, what is this? Yeah. It's USA by butthole

servers, but there's another example I'm going to share because I have a fun fact about it here. This is their second biggest hit. So by far, Pepper is the biggest hit that Butthole Surfers ever had. This is like their second biggest hit. And I'll tell you a fun fact about this song, which is called Who Is In My Room Last Night. Oh, I know the name. I don't know if I know the song. I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying!

I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying! I'm flying!

I'm flying! I'm flying! There's a yeah. Yeah, this like chaos and squeeze of the Stone Age. Yeah. This is the second biggest. This is this is crazy. The Stone Age. Oh, yeah. Cocaine, nicotine, the opening song off Stone Age. of, ah. Oh, this is good.

See, I'm like the Phoenix on a. Oh, this is, you need to listen to Kias or the opening track on the Queen's of Stone Age debut. Okay, so Gibby Haynes. Oh, that's good. Yeah, it's good, right? Yeah, it is very Queen's of Stone Age, right? It reminds me of Ministry a little bit as well. Yeah, well, hold on. Stop, stop, stop. Hold Yeah, it's good, right? Yeah, it is very squeeze this reminds me ministry a little bit as well Hold on that's gonna be the mind blow for Rob Bruce. Okay, so Gibby Haynes

His dad I think is a fun fact his dad was mr. Peppermint who is a Dallas Children's television host so I get the idea of mr. Peppermint was like an uncle Bobby for Dallas So Jerry Haynes is the name of Mr. Peppermint. Okay. So this is where Gibby comes from, right? Gibby, you of course, and Al Jorgensen from ministry lived with Timothy Leary. Really? And they were like guinea pigs for Timothy Leary psychedelic experiments. So you get an idea of how and then because I dove into I kind

of surfers it's so fucking out there it's like Frank Zappa asking it's like eclectic fucker uppery yeah okay fucker uppery yeah and it made another band I'm gonna shout out because I they had a cover of Rod Stewart do you think I'm sexy that always Rebko yeah revolting cocks revolting cocks it's a really good shout out because they had a cover of Rod Stewart, Do You Think I'm Sexy? Oh, Revco, Revolting Cocks. Revolting Cocks. It's a really good one. And Haynes, by the way, has appeared in a Revolting Cocks song.

He's on Cocked and Loaded. Here's a mind blow about this song before I bring in where everybody knows I'm going, except maybe Rob Prues. But who do you think produced this song? Who produced this album and this song? You'll never get it, I might have to tell you. But here, listen. There's a Cha Cha on the live screen. Cha Cha who says, yes, Bob, love this song. I'm kicking it out Cha Cha. This is my song.

Yeah, but it's all my things I'm adding to it to make it better. Don't give Bob credit for this butthole surfers. I'm the one who knocks. Yeah, so Queens of the Stone Age there. Big time. And here's the thing though. This, I love it. How about this for a band? Like the 96 is there one, two, three, four, five, six. It's a seventh album. They got a whole bunch. Like they go back to 84. That's amazing. So I bet you I'd love to hear out like, I'm going to listen to all of it.

They're one of these bands that all the rock bands who are like cool, like they love to these guys. I gotta I gotta admit I didn't listen to the box So who produced this Al Jorgensen? Nice nice guess John Paul Jones produced that song John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin He's fucking cool. Electric Larry Lamb? No, no, no, no.

No. Who was in My Room Last Night? Oh, the song. Okay. Whatever album that is. Okay. Damn. I fucking love this song.

I just gave away a bunch of tickets to Ministry of History. They're playing History. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order.

New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. New World Order. I just gave away a bunch of tickets to ministry at history playing history World order I prefer so what but I do like it Wow. So this voice, of course, this voice is Gibby Haynes from the Butthole Surferz, but this song is a ministry song entitled, Jesus Built My Hot Rod. Oh my God. You're blowing my mind. It's going to dub tail rate into my next song. And as a CF and Y listener in the 90s. Go ahead, Bob. Oh, I was just saying, last summer I mentioned that I saw Alice Cooper

on that same bill was the band Filter and Ministry. Wow. Yeah. Shosh, I just said sorry to me on the live stream. I'm just kidding. It's OK. I'm just, my tongue is always in my cheek. Like when I say, fuck, Bootsauce, I'm worried I'm going to run into Bootsauce.

And they're going to punch me in the nose. And they'll say, I didn't know your tongue was in your cheek, Mike. Yeah. I got one. I love that. I want to love you. I want to love you. I can't hear you.

I have distinct memories of, I used to wake up to the Humble and Fred show. Yeah. Since, basically since the launch, because I was going to high school in 89. And then Howard left, went to Mix 99.9. Yeah. And Fred stayed and they would bring in- Steve Anthony who came in. No, he came in before.

I think it was. I don't think it was like May Potts, maybe brother Bill was his not brother or maybe maybe I think Steve Anthony is pre humble and Fred. No, I think he came in in between, but but I think he's between Pedingeats and humble and Fred. That's true. Yes, I don't think he comes back. Okay, but I'm only a historian, but I distinctly remember in that period of time, which is like less than a year and a half when there was no humble and humble of friends, I distinctly remember hearing Jesus built my hot rod on the morning

show. This song on a Toronto morning show. Like never again, probably. But I heard it. Yeah. Yeah. Those were the days. That's nuts. That's great. So fucked up. OK. So my Outlier Jam is the most radio-friendly, melodic, catchy pepper.

Right. OK, I love this experience. OK. So we're to you again, Rob Pruse. Any words? Well, it just occurred to me because this was reminding me of that other song you were playing reminded me of Ministry. And then I went- OK of that other song you were playing reminded me of Ministry.

And then I went- Again, this song is Ministry. And this is Ministry. So this song came out in the same year as my final Outlier Jam for the band that you're about to play. Oh, okay. Let's get to the big Outlier Jam, which I think a lot of people are waiting for to be quite...

It was guest on the live stream. I didn't acknowledge it. But here we go. What a tonal change. This got mentioned in the chat. Yeah. I think going from, is there any radio station that would dare go from Jesus built my hot rod? I wish there was more than words by

I wish there was. Um, I would. Yeah, you would. I'm working on it. Don't worry. Saying I love you is not the words I want to hear from you. It's one of my first CDs. It's really?

It's not that I want to. Oh, Pornographidi. Yeah. Yeah, it was big because it had He-Man. No, it had Wholeheartedly. Wholeheartedly. Yeah, Wholeheartedly. And then Get the Funk Out.

Did it also have He-Man woman hater on it? No, no. Because that was the song I gravitated towards. Not that I hate women, I love women. That's problematic jam, man. That's right. is all you have to do to make it real then you wouldn't have to say that you love me

cause I already know what would be the truth Take it away, Rob Pruss. Uh, spring of 1991. And this is one of those songs, you know, you have songs in your life where you, you can have a vivid memory of the first time you heard a song. It's like when people say, where were you when JFK was shot? Where were you when the challenger exploded, whatever. Or when Kurt Cobain, uh, when you heard about Kurt Cobain, I was on the Gardner Expressway

listening to CFNY when they announced that. But this song for me- Alan Cross, right? Alan Cross, yeah. Yep. But this song for me, I was going on tour with Phantom of the Opera and I had driven across Canada by myself in my little Honda CRX through the Rockies and everything. I got to Vancouver and it was raining and this song was on the local station. I think it was the first time I'd heard it and I was like, this is a fucking hit song.

It was my first time tuning into the local station. like, this is a fucking hit song. And I think, and it was my first time like tuning into the local station, I was excited to be getting to Vancouver. So my association with this song is always getting to Vancouver with Phantom and just knowing like what a, it's such a classic song. Monster hit, because it's such a good song. But you know what song I pair with this all the time in my mind?

Mr. Big. Really? Yeah, to be the next with you? Yeah, to be with you. Around the same time. They were the same ballad-y. That. Sure. They were like around the same time. They were the same ballad-y. That's right.

And it was, it's, it all goes back to Kiss and Beth and even to that Black Sabbath song you played. You like ballad. Well, and I love ballads. I love ballads too. And rock bands too, cause it's like a safe hit. Yeah. Well, and the thing with this is like,

so Extreme and Mr. Big are still trying to thrive as the grunge thing starting. Yeah. Like I had, when I had, what's his name, from Twisted Sister on my podcast, Dee Snider, and he was just like, he's like, there's nothing we could do. It was like, all of a sudden, nobody wanted us.

So these guys are like the last bastions of it. You're right, so that's Spring 91? Cause Tannen and Nevermind are coming in later that year. It's like, it's coming, man, and you know it's coming totally and because and so this is like their last kick at the can really Because you're not selling out arenas or anything if you're extreme extreme and mr Big and maybe maybe if extreme mr. Big and poison now they could do a show every rose has its thorns Yeah, similar. Yep. Yep, and it was the end of that Thorns is similar. Yep.

And it was the end of that line for sure. And I remember at the time I bought the album, I got the CD, and I was like, oh, I was a little disappointed because Wholeheartedly is good. Wholeheartedly is a great song. Yeah. I like Wholeheartedly. But the rest of it's.

But that's why it's an outlier jam, because they're a heavy fucking band. Yeah. And you know what? Jerry Charone. What's the B-side? What's the symbol? Oh yeah, so kick the B-side.

What's his name? Nuno Bettencourt. It's an astounding guitar player. This is what I've heard. I did not know that. So you mentioned that this was a hit. Oh, and what's his name? Nuno Bettencourt. Nuno Bettencourt. It's astounding guitar player. This is what I've heard. I did not know that. So you mentioned that this was a hit. You heard it, you knew it was a hit.

I wanna ask you, do you have an experience of writing something or putting something going, this is gonna be a hit? Yes! Which one? Romantic traffic. In tunnel eyes, actually. You knew?

Yeah. Did you know even before, like you went to a producer, like you had it down. Yeah. More interesting. Have you ever said this is a hit and it bombed? No, no, you just, because I don't really think about it like that. It's going to be hit, but I remember when you know, initially bombed, nobody was played. Try until like music started playing it. And there's an example where they were sure they had a hit on their hand,

but no radio would play it. They still trusted it. I feel like when Gordon and I were first working on Tell No Lies, I had programmed the drum machine and he had the vague idea for the song, like he had the sections that worked out. And we sort of went through it together. And every step along the way, it felt like the right thing. Like, here's the chorus, here's the buildup, and then here's the verse. And it just was so exciting because I thought this feels like a right thing. Oh, that's cool.

I love that. I love that. I love hearing about that experience because the creativity is just like it's, it's, it's the juice man. It's when you go in it because you don't really know what you're doing, but you, you trust you sort of like step outside of yourself and you kind of go with the flow of it. I read Rick Rubin's book and a lot of the times it says the exact same thing. It's just like those things, those sometimes the bat, like the one, it takes 20 minutes to write it. It's done and it's done. And you might, you might flicker a little bit here and there with it but yeah that's so cool how close is this ending of the song you don't really know this is not in the radio at it no no betting court yeah but you know what

their next album extremes next album three sides to every story is fantastic really my favorite albums of all time yep wow yep that might have that's a sentence that's never been said before. I know. That's more typical, right? Yeah. She's the one that's going to, he's the one that's going to make you feel good. He's the one that's going to make you feel good. Dr. Field did. Home Sweet Home by Miley Crue is a bit of an outlier. Yeah. I'm growing tired of growing up Yeah, this is like no wonder it's a B-side. And these days, this B-side sounds like the rest of the album,

but I don't think it was on the album. I think this is a great choice because More Than Words was a sweep ballad and I think a lot of... Some, not me, but some people would refer to them as like soccer moms. Yeah. Not me. I, not me. I'm very progressive. I would never say such a thing.

But you call them football moms would pick up. They pick up porno graffiti for more than words. And then they get hit with him and go back, which was like a red hot chili peppers thing they were trying to do. And they'd be like, where this kind of chili pepper, I'm not going to steal Bob's thunder, but I have the same exact thoughts about Bob's final. Yes Okay extreme and this guy Gary Sharone would at some point sing for the Van Halen at one point for you didn't do an album. Did he or did he just don't know if he didn't know he did

No, I think there's a I think after their car leaves after Hagar leaves. there's at least one album with Gary Sharone on it. I think you're right. Maybe you're right now that I said that. I'm also right about FOTM Steve Anthony pre-humble, never post-humble. I feel like, ah, alright. Well, you know what? Then when we went back to the mix, he was there. Was that with Carla Collins? Yep. Carla was gone when we got there. That was a toxic mix.

They were terrible together and they both hated working with each other. Extreme also sang at the Freddie Mercury tribute in 92 at Wembley Stadium and they opened the show and they were astounding. Really? Yeah, they did a couple of Queen songs and then they, I don't know if they did more than words. I think maybe they did. Probably.

Yeah, they did a couple of Queen songs and they were fantastic. Benson Boone, uh, current. Did you watch him sing Bohemian Rhapsody? Yeah, I thought he did. Okay. I, I, I thought I like him though. I like him too. I like his showmanship. I like his sense of humor. Um, he's got great songs. Yeah. I thought it was pretty, pretty ballsy to do it. And bring Brian May out to play and everything. And his high Galileo's he's got the voice of Roger Taylor. I mean, on the original it's Roger Taylor singing

even higher than Freddie. And he got those notes. It was amazing. I just thought he, I mean, I don't know if it was nerves or whatever, I just thought it was just okay. It didn't blow me away. He was good on the Grammys. Breaking news on the live stream.

There is a second, so yeah, they released one Van Halen album of Gary Sharone as a lead singer. There is a second Van Halen album of Gary Sharone, but they didn't even put it out. Oh wow. It's just that bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

There you go. Wow. Who's the FOTM who tried out to be lead singer Van Halen? Was it by any chance Sass Jordan? I think there's a story Sass told me. That sounds vaguely familiar. She went to hang with the guys for a week or something. Well, Teris Sloan tried out to be the lead singer

Van Halen. Wow. Yeah, of course. That was like a be the lead singer of NXS. Wow. Yeah, of course. That was like a TV show. Yeah, that's what I mean. But I think, yeah, but this wasn't a TV show. It was just Van Halen. To me, again, this might speak to my age,

and you love the version when you were a teenager or whatever. But to me, my Van Halen includes David Lee Roth. Yeah. Am I alone out there? No, mine too. Van Halen III is the band's only studio album to have Gary Sharon with the big hits. Without You, One I Want, Fire in the Hole, and Dirty Water Dog. Those are my favorite Van Halen songs. Okay, Bob, any words before I kick out a very appropriate outlier jam. No, no, that's fine.

["The House Does This"] No, it might be the house. The house does this. Oh, does it? Yeah, it's not a human. Yeah, so this house, sometimes you'll get it. It comes back up. It comes in the basement. Yeah.

There'll be a sink. Sounds like somebody just had a really, really bad incident in their pants. Really? It smells like it. Sometimes I get embarrassed sitting here if it happens. Cause the house, the house farts. Yeah, yeah.

This is the first, the guys, I'm like. Oh, I see. It comes in through the, uh, yeah. It's the returnee, I know. You gotta fix your trap. It's a house fart. It's a trap. Okay, you wanna help me fix my fucking trap?

I don't know, you're the one who gets paid to do this. Not me. But a human did not make that stink that Bob's smelling. Oh my God. I promise. Here we go. I wake on my airplane. I wake on my airplane. My skin is bare.

My skin is theirs. I wake on my airplane. I wake on my airplane. My skin is bare. My skin is theirs. I feel like a newborn And I feel like a newborn I wake up my airplane, I wake up my airplane

I feel so real Could you take my picture? Cause I won't remember Could you take my picture? Cause I won't remember Could you take my picture? Of course, that is Richard Patrick and Company, but mostly Richard Patrick. That's Take a Picture from Welcome to the Fold. And nothing they've ever done, it sounds like it.

I had Richard Patrick on Bob's Basement. And that's how I got to go to this show. It was Filter opened, Filter, Ministry, Alice Cooper, and then Rob Zombie at Bud's stage last year. And Kiss 65. And so what was interesting is talking to him before the show, talking to Richard Patrick before the show about this album and how big this song was and him acknowledging that almost like the conversation I just had with Rob about he knew it was a hit. Like you know he put it together, this is a hit.

Like as he was writing it, he knew, but it's not a traditional filter song, which we're going to play some stuff in a second watching him do it. So he's playing at five o'clock on a Tuesday night or something, right? He opens, it's broad daylight, comes out, plays a couple of songs that nobody knows. And then he plays this, about three songs, he's going to do an eight or nine songs. So he plays this four songs in. And then he's like, oh, he goes, he goes, it's funny standing up here,

watching, he's like, oh, that's when everybody looks at this. Oh, it's that guy. Oh, it's that guy. And then he played Welcome to the Fold and ended with Hey Man, Nice Shot, which is the biggest song that they have. And of course, Richard Patrick, the guitarist for Nine Inch Nails originally and him and Trent went to like opposite high schools.

You can hear all about it on my podcast if you want to go back and listen to it. And his brother, don't forget his brother. His brother is from T2, the aforementioned Terminator 2. Right, Eddie Furlong's movie. That's right. And Eddie Furlong wears a Public Enemy shirt in that movie. That's right. This all come, everything's like connected today. And X-Files was filmed in Vancouver. Okay. Sure. Well, Robert Patrick took Mulder's spot. So, um, and Mulder was in the Larry

Sanders show because Larry Sanders and him had this thing. It was quite an interesting arc. And of course, Scott Thompson, the great FOTM, who was also in Bob's basement, was on Larry Sanders Show. This song is one of those songs. I think I could have a list. I probably have a list of 10 to 20 songs that I will never turn off if it's on the radio. I would never turn this song off. The song we're going to play next. I would never turn up,

but I would turn this one off. You would turn this one off. Andy's got an idea for the, the fact the house does an occasional once in a while, the house does a bit of a fart. Oh, it's just vile man. Okay. Well, all right. So the suggestion is that we pour water in the trap. It might be dry and letting the sewer gases out. So, okay. So Andy, we will,

I will pour, I was gonna say, I'll get Rob Proust to go and do it. I'll pour some water in the trap and see if that, although it hasn't happened in a while, but once in a blue moon, it does. And it does smell like a bit of a sulfur kind of a fart thing. And you don't want your guests when you're recording. Can you imagine if you had Paul Langlois, the tragically hip down here, actually, he'd probably think it was funny. He'd be like, can I at least light up a smoke then? Yeah, Gilmore would flip his wig if he fucking well and he can barely hear so his sense of smell must be really better Too. He did have to put on his hearing aids for his Toronto Mike debut light some incense, man

I'm not talking about Doug Gilmore by the way this Doug Gilmore Jersey I'm wearing which I only put on because I saw the great Bob will let wearing a Leaf hoodie and we got the sense series coming up very soon. I love the playing the sense. It's signed by Doug. So I turn around. Oh, is it? Oh yeah, there it is because Hepsey took it to the killer's home and the killer. That's nice. Signed it for me. So lovely. Thank you to all of the above. So have you had him? He hasn't been in the basement. Has he? Doug? No.

No, not yet. Him and Wendell, right? Well, Wendell's been on twice. Yeah. In person, but never in the basement. Not in the basement. Once at Christie Pitts. And then the Joe Carter thing or something.

The Joe Carter, thank you. I couldn't remember where that was. Hey, can I play the big one? Please. Do it. This is my favorite filter song, I'm not alone, I'm supposed. And if I hear this, I will listen to the whole thing.

I fucking love it. And then make sure you give us the origin story because it's a great story and I'm giving you orders and giving you production notes and then we'll I'm not gonna do the origin story of this I'm gonna do my Martin so do you want to talk about? What hey man nice shot is about club 1l to Saturday nights To fit no all of the important for 10 Sherwin Street DJ Dwight. RQ EQ technical guy. Tim Welch lighting it up.

What did you call it? I was RQ EQ technical guy. I love that name. Hey man. Nice shot. Edge 102. Hit the post baby! And now you blew it!

Maybe I'll tell Rob Proust the story. Tell me! Tell me the story Uncle Mike! Fucking love this song, it's got that great build up and the sound I liked at the time. Kind of a stabbing westward vibe. I hope the great Bob Brother can hear me as I shout out stabbing westward vibe. I hope the great Bob where that can hear me as I shout out stabbing Westward. They had a song like this. It's a great sound. Do you

know the name Bud Dwyer? Maybe but not not not off the top of my head. That's why I say he made me shine But Dwyer, back in 1987, was in like a bribery He was a treasurer That's why I say he made me shine Arbut Dwyer And he was engulfed in this controversy, bribery charges He was going to be sentenced to jail for this But Dwyer killed himself live on television. Oh yeah, you've talked about him before. Yeah, because it's footage I've seen right that I can't get out of

my head. You can't unsee it. You can't unsee that shit. I want to learn Bob. Bob, have you ever seen the footage of Bud Dwyer shooting himself in the head on live television. I have, yeah. I've seen some bad stuff. Marilyn Manson, there's a name for you, there's a problematic artist for you. Marilyn Manson apparently had audio of the, you know, there's audio of this press conference because Bud Dwyer says something, he takes a gun out of a bag and shoots himself in the head and you see it. You know, there's audio, there's video of this. So Marilyn Manson samples this audio of Bud Dwyer's suicide and then Richard Patrick, F-O-B-W, Richard Patrick hears the sample and gets very excited by it. This is according to

Marilyn Manson. And next thing you know he writes, Hey man, nice shot. Hey man, nice shot is not a basketball jam. It's not a hockey jam. It's a suicide jam. Yeah. When we kick out suicide jams, we can kick this one out. Suicide is painless. Here's a quote from Marilyn Manson who in his own right is very problematic. But Marilyn Manson said regarding Patrick writing this song, he wouldn't even have heard it if I didn't play it. I don't like him very much. He bothers me. So I'm just here to say, when you bother Marilyn Manson, that's next level. Fucking great song though. Shout out to Sadie Westworth. So this episode I love because we played both Jesus Built My Hot Rod and Hey Man, Nice

Shot, a couple of like some heavy tunes, a 90s staple. I love it for the bobs and the mics of the world. I love like some heavy tunes, love it. And 90s staples. I love it. For the bobs and the mics of the world. I love me some heavy music, but I also love, like I literally was listening to some ballads on the way over here. I love ballads.

It's that contrast, right? Like I feel like that ministry era and like the extreme stuff for me, because like growing up with rock and roll and then getting into musical theater was such a new world for me. But I felt like I was tuning back into like, I loved ministry and I loved like heavy stuff. Yeah.

Because it was like a contrast. Yeah. You need that contrast in your life. Ying and yang. Yeah. Absolutely. Where did punk music, because you were part of the new wave thing in like late 70s, where did like the heavier punk music live in your world?

I bought an album from a band called the UK Subs. Oh, UK Subs. Which I thought I was supposed to like because I was like, man, there's this cool. And I just couldn't quite, like it was a little bit too heavy because I loved heavy music. Like I loved queen and then yeah. And there was something about the heavy punk stuff that didn't quite resonate as much as like the synthesizer stuff did. And like the boomtown, what about talking heads? Love talking heads. They're not punk. No, they were really, no, they're post-punk. Can I just say something about like trying to like,

so right now on my radio station, I'm giving away tickets to see the Mars Volta. Oh yeah. Right. Which is a band that I never only know one song, but that's all they have is one hit. That's it. But they have like seven albums or something. And they've had like John Fraschanti has been in the band. The drummer from Queens of the stone age has been in the band. They've had rotating bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's prog rock is what it is. I can't fucking get into it. I've tried, I have all these people like called me every night to win these tickets.

They're like, Bob, don't you love it? I'm like, not really. That's an acquired taste, but I guess if you have it. Well, I just can't, I don't, I can't figure it out. Oh, this is Welcome to the Fold. This is the opening track off of the album that has. So if I can paint a picture I would never refer to these wonderful mothers as such but when the soccer moms here take a picture

I don't know mix 99.9 where the fuck they heard it they go buy the CD and this is the opening track. They put it in their mini van because they want to hear it and this is the song they're hit with so you got your Jesus. That's amazing. Yeah you're a soccer with. So you got your Jesus. Yeah. You're a soccer mom. Yeah. You just bought this. Although it does break down a little bit. It's quite melodic in the middle. I love this. This is one of my favorite. You've already lost them.

Yeah. Just wait one second. What's this noise? Tobias Von Kuhl. Just gotta set yourself down. So it gets a little melodic. I love this song. On the album, it's eight minutes long.

And I asked him, I said, eight minutes song as part of when you're opening, you only get like eight or nine songs. He's like, oh no. He goes, I don't do a fucking eight minute version of anything anymore. Wow. I'm raising a price. Mars Vault are amazing, says Tobias Von. Yeah, people amazing says Tobias. Yeah, people love them man.

Can you get them some tickets? Probably. Tobias, message Bob in the FOTM chat. Are they like King Gizzard and the Wizard Lizard? I love those guys. So my buddy who's the jazz guy saw them last summer. I saw them last summer too. And said it was fucking crazy good.

I never heard of them. Me neither. They do two nights at the stadium. Are you leaving? Bye. Kayden and Ed loves those guys. Yeah. So for the last two years in a row,

they played, so I lived down the street from this place called Forest Hills Stadium in Queens. Yes, I know. They played two sold out nights. And so I went last summer and saw them and they were unbelievable. Didn't really know their music.

You need to meet my buddy David. My buddy David and you, he actually has, he went to Ryers, York for saxophone. Oh yeah. Yeah. And now he's the head of marketing for Campari Canada. And he's a really good friend of mine, really smart guy and loves music. Like just loves music. But he told me about this, this Ken Gizzard or whatever. King Gizzard and the Wizard of the Desert. And I had never heard of it. They're Australian? Yes. He said they're amazing. There's like six guys in the band. Every album they do, it's a whole're Australian. Yes. They're amazing. There's like six guys in the band.

Every album they do, it's a whole different style. Yes, this is exactly. So they're doing a tour this summer with an orchestra. OK. They're doing two nights at the stadium. They're going to do one night with an orchestra. The next night, like the regular set. So they're so cool because they just keep trying shit.

Yeah. There's different singers in the band. The instrumentation is unbelievable. This is what I've heard. Yeah. So it's kind of like, you know, I was thinking about the whole Mars Volta thing, because I know of Mars. I know of them. I don't know. I don't know. I say, yeah, so I listened to them. I have listened to them and I have not

enjoyed it to be completely honest. It's just, you know what? I'll be honest. It's funny. I was going to say, I don't normally appreciate higher register singing, but I love Richard Patrick's voice and it's higher register. So like, cause I don't, I don't get rush. I don't get, you know, real high. I don't get so, but I was saying that somebody asked me how successful was the Mars Volta. I'm like, well, they're going to play history. They're going to sell it out. They, I liken it to, you know, those class, the dead and fish and like, there's a whole bunch of bands out there. The Canada camp bands. King Gizzard is in that list as well. That's exactly why I bring them up. Exactly. All right. Love it.

Did you pour some water in that trap? Yeah. Oh, you did? I did. Smells gone. Andy, the smell is gone. It was just the one, the poor house. It's over 100 years old.

It had a little fart. Old people sometimes don't know when they're farting. I, you know what? I have an old house too. My house is over 100 years old. And it doesn't fart, but it does make a lot of noises. Houses make noises. Is your basement somewhere you spend a lot of time?

All the time. Some people don't use their basement so much. No, no, no. My basement's completely finished. We've used every, every, that's where I record Bob's basement for Christ's sake. Bob's basement. I haven't heard an episode in months. I know, neither have I. Loretta Switz, like when am I getting the call again?

No, after Loretta, yeah, she's... This is Mike's basement. When I saw it was Alan Alda's birthday a couple weeks ago, he's like 90 something, I'm like, I would love to have Alan Alda on YouTube. Right. Anyways. But I haven't chased anybody in a long time.

Okay, well, you're a busy man. You're on Indie8 eight days a week, as the Beatles would say. are you guys ready for my outlier jam? So far there's been no controversy and I'm wondering if I might get some here. I hope so. Okay. Cause I don't want it to be too easy. Here we go. My outlier jam to conclude the episode. And there's a couple of mind blows, but here we go. Sounds like I'm an adult now. I think you like this band, right? I love you, you know I do. Yeah, it's perfect, well it is an underdance. I've been meaning to call you I've been meaning to call you

And I do I've been meaning to call you I've been meaning to call you and I do Phone rings once, phone rings twice Phone rings three times I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to the tragically hip, In View. Never heard of them. The first single from the band's 10th album, World Container. I heard Bob early in that song telling me I'm wrong. You're wrong.

Let me explain myself. Okay, please do. And you're talking to a guy who I've heard, I think I can safely say I've heard every tragically hip song they've ever released. Yeah, makes sense. Big fan, okay? I've heard every Tragically Hip song they've ever released. Yeah, makes sense. Big fan, okay? Seen them live many times.

Okay. This is a pop song. This is an extremely poppy song. The producer of this album and this song is Bob Rock. And if you watch the Prime documentary series on the Tragically Hip made by Mike Downey, you will know about the controversy where Bob and Gord had this one-on-one relationship that cut out the rest of the band, the other four members of the Tragically Hip. They were always an equal member fivesome and then all of a sudden it was Bob Rock and Gord making decisions and

doing things. And this is a super, super pop song that doesn't sound like a tragically hip song. It's like a radio friendly pop song. And if you dig into it, you learn Bob Rock, Bob Rock was really pushing Gord to create a radio friendly pop song. You know, it's funny, Bob Rock worked on a Honeymoon Suite album. Bruce Fairbairn and Bob Rock did the second Honeymoon Suite album, big prize. And there's a bit of a sound of Johnny D on this. It's a little Honeymoon.

Let me hear a bit. Here. But never in your eyes I am all for you You are always in view I, I, I am my will You are in everything I do. So when I hear in view, I don't hear the trash. I mean, of course that's Gord's voice

and Gord's voice is going to be Gord's voice, but it doesn't sound like a hip song to me. It sounds more like a, we're going to you in a minute, Mr. Willett. I got so many things to say. It sounds more like to me like a, like a skydigger song. Yeah. Like this is a skydigger song. I see. It's just, it's just, it's not radio friendly. No, no, they have a couple of radio friendly songs, of course, but Bob speak to me here. It is not an outlier track.

Listen to poets or my music at work. They're the same songs. They're all the same. Yeah, I disagree. No, they are. They're, they're, they're poppy hits. They've made poppy hits all along. Yeah. Um, fireworks. Come on. They have made poppy hits all along. You're confusing, uh, big radio hits with no, I'm not radio pop rock. I am not confusing. I'm confusing. I'm not this. The sound is so similar. View to you sounds like a hip. If I changed the voice of the singer, would you be like, Oh, that's a hip song. Yeah, absolutely Now look the band itself as you know, if you've had Paul I had Paul I'm on in the basement

Literally had Paul. I know you did. I know you're much better than me and But he said again, you're Jesus Christ. You're Control What I will say is this? even Paul says there are tragically hip albums, and then there are the deep cut albums, right? And I think he goes, there's albums that even the band doesn't like, right? They've done so much. What does the band think of In View? Yeah, we should- I'll bet you, I mean, next time I have a member in the basement, I'm going to ask them what they think of In View. Well, because that's, well, again, everybody knows the Bob Rock issue, right? So

I just don't think it's an outlier. I think it's what I said. I don't think it would be the most controversial of it, but I think it's partly because the hip of such a enormous catalog of no one's songs. But you know, we know too much, but you know, what's a good, it's a good controversy, controversy for outliers because the problem that I had with outliers in the beginning was that I thought an outlier still sounds like the band normally. It's just not, it's not that different. So like I think that Led Zeppelin, Stairway to Heaven is almost an outlier in some ways because it was their first hit. And I also almost thought that When Doves Cry for Prince is almost an outlier because nobody's ever

had a song with no bass guitar in it before, with no bass, where it was just a drum machine and a voice. And it was groundbreaking at the time. Creep by Radiohead, is that an outlier, Jim? A little bit. I think so, yeah. No samples in that song. Pablo, you know what, that whole album would be.

What is that? It's a reminiscent of? The Air That I Breathe. Wouldn't it be, the problem is Pablo, honey, is all that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't until during the- What about Green Day's Good Riddance? It can just go away.

I mean- Yeah. The time of your life. Is that an outlier, Jim? It's sort of an outlier. Kind of. But that's the thing- But again, it's a ballad.

Yeah. Essentially. And so outliers always, like to me, it's a little bit of a tricky subject because of the fact that the band always sort of has that sound in them anyways. Like, like Queen had such a variety of song. Well, you can't say Queen because everything is an outlier, which is kind of a cool thing.

But that's what we talked about the top of Pearl Jam and hip or like Pearl Jam and that there's so much. Yeah, that's right. But I'm, but here, just remind people and I know they have a lot of, they've changed their sound. This wasn't the same album, was it? No, no, no, no. This is like 20 years later. This is in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. 89 I guess. Yeah 89 it comes out. Go ahead. I still think that there is, yes, this is not as fully produced a song. This is them doing like their bluesy Rolling Stones thing. Yeah. This is like might as well, but it's still, I still don't, I still don't think they ever,

I don't know, I love Tragically Hip. I don't think you could compare them to a Pearl Jam with a Breath of Sound. They had a pretty, pretty, like if you, you know, I was at Spin Magazine back in the day put together, listen to Pearl Jam as a garage rock band. Listen to Pearl Jam as a prog rock band. Listen to Pearl Jam as a punk band. But you're making my point, which is why In View is such an empire. You can't do that with the Tragically Hip. garage rock band. Listen to Pearl Jam as a prog rock band. Listen to Pearl Jam as a punk band. Which is why In View is such an outlier.

But you can't do that with the Tragically Hip. All their stuff sounds too much the same. I do, I would say though that that song does sound more like they're trying to have a pop song. Yes! But that doesn't mean it's an outlier. No, I know. Bob Rock wanted a radio-friendly pop song and he got In View, which is a radio... It's the only hip... Okay, not the only one because there's others. It a head by Century, Bob Kajan or whatever, but it is

the most Kiss 92.5. I mean, I would... Have you ever listened to Kiss 92.5? They would never play that song. Okay, the most Mix 99.9. There you go, that's better. So you were saying it's their matchbox 20. It's their... Yeah. Yeah. What year was that song done? 2000 and... What?

It's a... When was it? I will tell you definitively. Oh, it's that far along. Wow. It's World Container, which of course is 06. 06. I was right in between. Oh, I...

Anyways, you know what? A for effort, Mike, but take the loss. I'm going to need a ruling. So let me know. Mike at TorontoMike.com or find me on Blues loss. I'm going to need a ruling. So right now, let me know. Mike at Toronto Mike.com or find me on blue sky. I'm on blue sky now too. Yeah, you are welcome. You don't post.

No, I don't know. But that's, I'm glad you're there though. Oh, and who's the imposter? Because you're at Bob Ouellette and I, a lot of people think you are at Bingo Bob. And I'm not, I don't know who has Bingo Bob. Right. I wanted to tell you guys, I don't know if you know this

or not, but Friday, May 9th, part of the Departure Music Festival, they kind of took over CMW, it's Randy Lennox and whatnot. Quite the controversy. Yeah, no, I know. There's a second annual Dave Bookman tribute concert is happening. Yeah, I talked about this actually with Ian Blurden. Yeah, so he's going to be there. It's all music of the tragically him. I love the title of the night, Let's Get Friendship Right, which is a great lyric of theirs. Yeah, um, yeah, he's going to be there. It's, uh, it's all music of the tragically him. It's called, I love them. I love the title of the night. Let's get friendship, right? Which is a great lyric of theirs. Yeah. You're going to have Ian Blurton is going to be there. Brendan canning's going to be there. Um, July talk is going to be there.

Well, yeah, Peter and Leah from July talk, Kevin Hearn, Ben Koala. It's from, uh, um, Billy talent, Billy talent. Yeah. All these people and all, uh, Talia Schlanger. Yeah. Anyways, it's on Friday, May 9th, 7 p.m. at the Garrison and it's free to get in. All you gotta do is donate some food. Wow. Yep. Ask you a question. Are you gonna lie to me? It's an indie 88%, that's why. No, I hiked it up with Ian Borden because he's part of the house band. That's cool. Yes, he is. That's right. And I think it's a cool event. No, I hiked it up with Ian Blerdon because he's part of the house band.

That's cool. I think it's a cool event. For Gord, for... So I'm playing this because if you ever saw on MuchMusic, this is actually back when MuchMusic existed so you could watch in view, the video was played on MuchMusic. In the middle of the video, so not on the album world container, but in the video, they stopped down for a moment and play a sample of this song.

Why would I lie to you? Why would I lie to you? Is this the one where they're wearing all white? No. What video is it? No, you're thinking of In Violet Light. In Violet Light, which is a much better album. Yeah.

That's in the forest of whispering speakers. Let's get friendship right. That's what it is. So this song is called Pretend, but you hear a bit of Pretend in the middle of the in-view video. Speaking of the Skydiggers, Andy Mays will be there as well. And Josh. Josh Finlayson.

Yep. Who did a lot of Josh Finlayson did a lot of Gore Downey solo work. Right. A lot of his albums there. So there's the connection there. Oh my goodness. And I got to say outliers jams. Good songs, good music all around. And next time you're on, we're going to have a new closing theme. And we're going to have a new same prime minister. Is that a prediction? That's a political prediction.

But you know what I joked on the live stream and somebody didn't quite get the joke. The joke is as we learned from the American election, celebrity endorsements are everything. Like if Taylor Swift promotes somebody, they're going to win. And I was saying that because Neil Young, who I'm going to see soon and I love very much, Neil Young is endorsing, I have a who I'm going to see soon. And I love very much. Neil Young is endorsing. I have a ticket to see him when he comes here. Neil Young is endorsing Mark Carney for prime minister. So shut it down. It's over. We've learned one thing for the Americans, celebrity endorsements or everything. That's right. Apparently we shall see. And Bob, I was going to ask you, are you a down with Webster fan? Not at all. No, me neither. I hate down. That's a Gene Simmons band. Gene, he's their manager. Was he? Oh yes. Yeah. It all comes back

to kiss. Why are you asking me about down with Webster? Because when Mark Carney won the liberal leadership and became prime minister via that victory, his celebration song is less, it's got win in the title, but it's a song by down with Webster. That's his song. It's not, wow. Oh no, cause there's a, there's a wind song with like panic at the disco. No, this is, this is down with Webster.

So no, I need a Cancon band. If you're going to have a fair enough, it's no, it's down with Webster. And I was thinking, oh, there's a band. I completely ignored because I was too old for that. Yeah. Yeah. It was too poppy. It's that post emo stuff. Yeah. I think, but I think people of a younger vintage will have a positive feelings about down the web. Nobody cares because when they were like 11, 12 years old, they were into down the way they couldn't sell. They

couldn't sell out a venue here. I tell you like you on their own. No way. They are there. They're a manufactured band. Wow. And it's real talk. So no down or Webster episode of Bob's Basin. No deep dive. Holy shit. Into the sound. Well, gentlemen, this was amazing. It's a fun one. And that, that brings us to the end of our 1,674th show.

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Is that East York somebody? You're practically neighbors of Troy Bird. I know, I gotta meet him. Well, I can't today though. I gotta go. Well, Palma Pasta. Thank you, Palma Pasta. I've got a lasagna for you.

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I have to go to the calendar. Give me a second here. See you all tomorrow when my special guest in the basement is George Smitherman. Whoa, former Hummel and Fred regular guest. And former health minister for Ontario or Canada? I can't remember. Ontario, I believe. E health scandal. Yeah, it was Ontario. Oh yeah. Ask him about the E health scandal. Yeah, dig into it. We're going to get into all of it. See you all. See ya. This is the last toast with this version. Oh You you