Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Todd Bueler: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1940

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

In this 1940th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Todd Bueler returns to kick out more jams from his 1970s adventures in Swansea.A version of this podcast without programmatic ads is available to all Toronto ...Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Todd Bueller, and this is my second appearance on the Toronto Mike podcast. I'm here to talk about my book, The Life of a 1970s teenager. And it's all about growing up in the 70s, me, growing up in the 70s, and a little neighborhood in Southwest Toronto called Swansea. Welcome to episode 1,940 of Toronto-Miked. 1940, an award-winning podcast. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. Order online at Great LakesBeer.com for free local home delivery in the GTA.
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Starting point is 00:01:54 to play more jams that take us right back to Swansea in the 70s, it is indeed Todd Bueller. Hey, man, how's it going? Good to be here, Mike. A little music to get us going. You know what? This song, I just can tell those stories.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Oh, yeah, go ahead. You're the boss. I just press the button. So it's Runny Park 1979 summer. I'm 16 years old. And it's
Starting point is 00:02:26 August, smoking hot day, like 90 degrees. I'm sitting in the, under the Coochidome at the south end of the park with my with one of my Swansea buddies. And we're just sitting there
Starting point is 00:02:40 smoking, looking around. Park's pretty empty. And my buddy albows me in the side, he goes, Guler, I look at him, I say, what? He goes, look who's coming now. Little Miss, you know who. The hell you're talking about, right? So I look up, and oh my God, there she is.
Starting point is 00:03:00 The park's, like, pretty empty, right? She's coming, starts walking towards us. And all of a sudden, everything just goes right into slow motion for me. And all I hear is this song. all in my head all around me this is all I can hear and all I can see is her and the breeze is nice soft breeze coming her hair is blowing back a little bit the willow trees in the background blowing she's walking towards me and I'm just
Starting point is 00:03:34 so she's walking towards me and I look up and I just looking at her and she's the prettiest girl in the neighborhood right and everything's in slow motion and she looks as she walks as she starts to walk past us things start to come back to normal speed now and she looks over as she says hi guys and i just i just look at her and she walks by and i say hi nancy she just walks by and i just keeps staring at her the music stops everything's normal now and i just keep staring at her and my buddy elbows me again is ghouler wake up And that girl, she's my wife now of 39 years.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Wow. Wow. This is a great song. I was hoping that's how that story would end. Yeah. And I got to meet your wife, Nancy. Yes, at your little shing thing. TMLX22.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. This song. Beautiful song, you know. Great song. You don't hear this too often in the wild. No. Let me soak it in a minute and then we'll catch up here. Sure.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Rose Royce. I want to get next to me. Just imagine the prettiest girl in the neighborhood. How did you score the prettiest girl in the neighborhood? It's in my book. You got to eat my book. That is actually all in my book, all the details of it. Took me a cup, I think it took me a year to get her.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, you were persistent. Yeah. You got to walk that line between persistence and annoyance. I was always a gentleman. I'm always a gentleman. Always a gentleman. It's funny you mentioned Renny Park. Of course, that's in Swansea.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But about a week or so ago, I was recording with Jeremy Hopkins at Scatting Cabin. And we learned about, I think his name's William Rennie, but the guy who the park is named after, who owned a lot of property in that neighborhood. We were talking about him. And just as recently as this past weekend, my son played a soccer game. He plays for High Park FC. And they played a match at Reni Park. I was there.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm glad. You know what? I'm really glad that the park is still. strong and neighborhood people are going there and just with their kids, families, and they're still enjoying that park because it's great. It's a great park. It is. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So let me say welcome back, Todd Bueller. Thanks for having me, Mike. I'm glad, you know, I really appreciate you having me back a second time because I really had a great time the first time. Well, a lot of people responded positively, particularly people of a certain vintage. Like, you took us right back to. Swansea in the 70s with those jams. And I consider this like a sequel episode.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Yeah, okay. So this is like the sequel. And we have a whole 10 more. We just heard one, but we have nine more jams to come. And we're going to hear from you, Todd. But shout out the name of your book. The book is the life of a 1970s teenager.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And you can get it on Amazon. And Toronto Library actually has it now. Okay, that's amazing. Now at TML. I mentioned you were at TMLX22. Your daughter was there. Yes. Your wife was there.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We just heard about your marriage origin story, if you will, at Reni Park. Yeah, well, there was more detail in the book, but yeah. Everybody, it's in the book. Shout out to Nick Kiprios. Got the book. But you gave a copy of your book to Peter Gross. Do I have this right? Peter Gross, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 So you met Peter Gross at TMLX22, which was at Great Lakes Brewery. In a moment, Todd, I'm going to make a big announcement. So everybody, prick up your frickin' ears. I have a big announcement. regarding TMLX 23. Oh. But TMLX 22, which was in late June at Great Lakes Brewery, you were there with your family. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You ate Palma pasta, right? I did. It was fantastic, as always. Did you enjoy the frozen lasagna you went home with in February? My wife and my kids, we just, we ate it up like crazy. And how many kids you have again? Two. How come only one was at TMLX 22?
Starting point is 00:08:11 He was probably working. Working. Okay. Everybody's working for the weekend. Okay. So I am going to send you home. Todd and I want to send you home. I want to get the Peter Gross story, but I'm going to send you home with another frozen lasagna from Palma Posta. I think my wife might be listening live right now, so she's probably jumping up and down right now. I gotta load that up and see if there's any comments. Live.Tronomike.com. We are live. I will check in there in a minute. But I do want to let you also know that I have some fresh craft beer for you from Great Lakes brewery. That's also going back to Swansea with you. Love it. That's the best beer. Now tell me the Peter Gross story because he is,
Starting point is 00:08:47 in the FOTM Hall of Fame. That's a living legend right there. Yeah. So I was sitting there. We were eating the pasta and having a few beers. My wife wasn't drinking though. She doesn't drink anyways. But anyways, so.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Well, someone has to drive that car. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So Peter Gross comes in and you announce him and everyone claps. And I just, he walks by our table. And I don't know. I got a hold of myself. you know, I want to, nice to meet.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Just shook his hand and everything, right? And so he was very gentlemanly, and he came up and he started talking to all three of us, right? And, um, I don't know how it came up, but I told, I didn't have the books there with me. I had them in the car. Uh, so I don't know how it came up, but, uh, I told him that I wrote a book. I think he might have asked me what he, I said, I was on your show. I think that that's how he was like, who the hell are you? Yeah, I think so something like that, right?
Starting point is 00:09:44 And then he, he said, uh, I said, uh, I said, uh, he said that he also wrote a book. And I said, wow. And so he wrote a book called The Boy That Turned Into a Cat. Yeah. And that's a great book. You can get that Amazon too. That book is about, well, about that, about a boy.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It's for young teenagers or preteens who are just starting to get, starting to read novels, right? It's a short novel. I think it's 170 pages. So that's a great book. So I said, really? He said, yeah. So I said, you want my book? I said, you want a copy of my book?
Starting point is 00:10:23 He said, sure. So I ran out to the car, brought it back, and he was nice enough to not take off. I read that out. Well, he's not going to leave until he fills his belly full of the delicious palm pasta lasagna. That's the deal, eh? That's his diet. So I showed him my book. And he said, he told us a story.
Starting point is 00:10:45 about his teenage years, one story. And he told us that he has a ton of teenage stuff, right? And I said, you should write a book. And I think that maybe that's when he told me he already wrote a book, right? So last week, he emailed me very, very nice to him. He didn't have to do that. He emailed me to tell me that he read my book and he enjoyed it. so I said oh great I said I'd like to get a copy of your book
Starting point is 00:11:18 why don't I come out to where you are and I'll take you out for coffee and get a book for you right get a book from you he said sure he said he said he said once you just give me a call so he gave me his phone number I phoned them and um we talked about writing right he said it's hard to write a book he obviously knew and I said yeah it's hard to read a book Yeah, it took years.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You're Todd Bueller. Yeah, yeah. So then we start talking about hockey because obviously Peter Gross, right? He's a, he's a guy, he's a sports guy, right? He is the sports guy. And, you know, when you see his face in real life from my perspective, because I grew up with the guy on City TV in the 70s, in the late 70s, early 80s, you put on city TV, there's Peter Gross, right?
Starting point is 00:12:12 The world according to gross. Oh, it was just, and he would go to the high school stuff, right? He didn't leave them out either, right? Right. So the hockey thing came up and we started on, I have about 10, 8 like hockey biographies or just hockey books, and I've read three of them, right? One is, I haven't read the other ones yet.
Starting point is 00:12:32 One is John Cortick. Oh. Right, Montreal. That's written by, not Rob Longley, but wasn't it a Toronto Sunwriter who wrote the Cordop? Could be. I will look it up while you keep talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And another book by a Boston Bruins player called Derek Sanderson. So these are all, although I think Cortic was later, but these are 70s, right? And Sanderson was so we're talking about that. He's laughing, right? Peter's laughing and that, Sanderson, these guys are nuts, right? They're making so much money. They're driving around Rolls Royce's. Mark Zoolinski is.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Toronto, yeah, he was actually a Toronto star guy, but yeah. It's a good book. I think it's called the fight of his life. You got it, yeah. And Swalinski came over here when he retired and we did, we did talk quite a bit about John Cork. Yeah, sad story. Yeah. So Derek Sand, so these guys are so rich then, right?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like they're driving around Rolls Royces, like, and then the 70s, you have the full length for a coach, you know, like, who is that famous NFL player? I can't remember. Namath, Joe Namath, he used to wear that. 100% Joe Newman, who I saw in the Brady Bunch. Yeah, that's right. If I remember correctly. So then we get on this guy called Brian Spinner Spencer.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Right. And man, that's a sad story. This guy got brought up in 1970 from the miners to play for the Leafs. And his first game, Now, I just going to go back a little bit. I used to watch him in the 70s, right? We used to watch all the Leafs in the 70s, right? Dave Keon, and a whole bunch of names, right?
Starting point is 00:14:17 But he was one of them, right? Brian Spinner Spencer. And he's from out west, B.C. And his first game was going to, was in December, 1970. First NHL game. So he told his father about it, told everyone about it. Right. I keep going.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I know this story. This is wild. So his father wants to watch the game. He gets excited. Here's his boy playing the NHL. Totally insane, right? And back then there weren't that many. I don't know how many teams with their 12, I think,
Starting point is 00:14:49 because the expansion just happened in 67, right? Right. So not a lot of hockey players in the league, right? If you get in that league, you're elite, right? So he puts on the television at CBC, and wouldn't you know what? CBC decides not to play the Toronto. game.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I think there. A Canucks game or something. I think it might have been a Canucks game. Well, he lost it, right? He got a gun and he went to the studios. And he told the guy, I don't know how he got in, but he broke in and he told the guy. There was no security back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:31 There you go. That's how he got it. He just walked in back then. You just walk in. So he told. the guy at gunpoint. You guys put my son on the TV. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And it took a while, and I can't remember if, did you read it? Did they do it? I just recently, I guess did he just pass away, right? There was a recent, somebody, maybe it was a spin. When did Brian pass away recently? I think, no, he died in 88. Somebody passed away, which got me diving into this. I'll dig it off.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He died. Okay. But I believe they did switch the feed. I think they switched her for a little bit. Yeah, okay. So they put the, okay. And then, of course, by that time, the RCMP had been alerted. Yeah, he died on.
Starting point is 00:16:19 So Brian Spencer passed away in 1988. Right. In Florida. He was, he was, well, we'll talk about that in a second. Well, yeah, we got to get to these jams. So he was only 38 years old when. He was murdered. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:31 During a bad drug deal. Jeez. Yeah. So I'll finish the story there. And then we can go on. So he, his father, so what happened? And then the RC&P showed up and there was a confrontation and he was shot. The police killed him.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Right. Right. Shot dead. So that's. And then Brian went on. Like one more thing about Brian is that he was, you know, some people call him a goon. But, you know, a goon is really reserved for like guys who just fight. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:59 John Kordick was a bit of a goon. Right. But then you have, you have enforcers. Now, Enforcer's is what Spencer was. So Enforcer is a guy who's not afraid to drop the gloves and fights, but can play, talented. And that's what Spencer was, right? But he had a lot of problems of drinking in drugs, and I think he threatened Harold Ballard at one point, and he got suspended or something, and then they traded him, and he went to, like, the penguins,
Starting point is 00:17:28 and he played for the Sabres. And then he just, you know, he blew out early in life out of the game. and I started doing drugs and he was up, he was up for murder, and he got off on that deal down south. Sorry, you were talking to Peter Gross about Brian Spencer? Yeah, yeah, we talked all about this. Okay, you know who's maybe one of the closest friends that Peter Gross has, besides yours truly, who talks to him weekly, okay, is Jim McKinney.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, Jim McKinney lives, I'm not going to, docs a guy. Docs the guy. What's his address? He lives like he lives around. I live. He's in your hood. Not far. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Not far. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we also talked about, so Peter Cross, we also talked about Moses Namer. Is that how you say his name? Moses Nimer. Yeah. He also lives in my neighborhood. And he, he, he, you know what he does?
Starting point is 00:18:21 The guy's like 90 or something, right? He's in his 80s. Oh, mid-80s, I'd say, yeah. He drives around in a Dolorian. Oh. So if you ever see a Dlorian. Because he's trying to go back to the future. If you ever see a Dolorian and Swansea, it's not Nymier.
Starting point is 00:18:34 How do you say his name? Zheimer. Znymer. It's Nymer. It's like Nymer, but you've got to put that Zed in there. It's a NYmer. So Moses, who will not come on Toronto Mike and will no longer accept correspondence from Peter Gross. That's some side inside, inside information for you right there.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, well, listen, I produced Gallagher and Gross saved the world. So I won't hog your time here because we got jams to get to. Except that I used to run out of the running room on Bluer here, Clendenin there. Not working clendon. And I used to see walking. by Grenadier Pond, I would see
Starting point is 00:19:09 Moses Neimer. Yeah, and there's other famous people. Name some famous people that live in Swansea. We're going to get to J.E. Andy Martin. I think she lived there. Okay, that's a big one. And, you know, Mosun Namer's
Starting point is 00:19:22 a girlfriend lives there too, but I can't remember her name. Lightstone. That's it. She lives there too. She lives here. Whose BFF is Erica M's mom, who's no longer with us, of course, but Erica M's mom. Yeah. From Montreal. Yeah. So did you, before
Starting point is 00:19:36 Wait, just won't anything? Yeah. You ever run it? I ran New York City marathon when I was 42 years ago. You ever run any races? No, I, well, I just 10Ks. I did the zoo 10K. 10Ks.
Starting point is 00:19:46 A few 5Ks and I was training for a half marathon when something messed up in my right leg. And that's essentially when I pivoted from running to cycling. Yeah. So I stopped running because I guess I was so biometrically challenged with my symmetry. It was like messing me up. The problem with running is people. think you just get out there and run and you can't do that but an injury can happen any second. You need to run often without any problems. Anyways I switched to cycling and I've never looked back because it's a lower
Starting point is 00:20:17 impact and it's a much I'm better off cycling. New York City marathon is a blast. You get like 10,000 people on the side all cheering for you. Like it's the next thing to be in a celebrity would not be in a and you. And you ran it when when you were 42? 42 in 2004. So was that two years ago? Okay. Yeah. Hey, there is a live stream comment. Tell me, is this your wife? I don't know. what's the comment? Oh, so your wife is Nancy B. Yes. And it's hi, Mike and high to you as well, Todd, not just Mike.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But this, do you know this name? Micara, M-I-C-C-A-R-A. And the comment is, and I don't understand it, maybe you know, Larry S says he was a little troublemaker. Do you know Larry S, and I think you might be that he was a little troublemaker? I guess that's his wife, yeah. Okay, so Larry S. Is Larry S a childhood chum from Swansea?
Starting point is 00:21:04 He was older. He was five years older, so he hung out my brother's. but I know him, yep. Okay, so there's a good happening at live.com. Hey, Larry, how you doing? Hello to everybody. We have to get to the jams, but I want to make a big announcement.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yes. So I don't have a drum roll ready, but you do the drum roll. Me? Okay. All right, so the breaking news at this hour is I am now able to announce the 23rd Toronto miced listener experience.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That is TMLX23. We talked, Todd, about, you and your family coming to TMLX-22. Yes. Well, TMLX-23 is taking place September 28th at 6 p.m. So, September 28, 6 to 9 p.m. But instead of the Great Lakes brewery you were at, which is South At Tobacco, we're going to be having TMLX-23 at the GLB brew pub at Jarvis and Queens Key.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And Todd, this is key. Unlike TMLX-22, where you just show up. Everyone's invited. You just show up. You actually need to get on my list to attend TMLX23 because there is a cap. So here is the call. If you would like to attend TMLX23 on September 28th from 6 to 9 p.m. at the GLB Brew Pub at Jarvis and Queens Key,
Starting point is 00:22:22 you must write an email right now, right now to Mike at TorontoMike.com and I don't know, put in the subject line TMLX23 and just say, I'd like to attend, okay? So send that email now. get you on the list. It'll eventually be capped. So I'll let you know if you're on the list or not. Todd,
Starting point is 00:22:40 because you're on the show as I make this exciting announcement, will you be at TMLX-23 on September 28th at the GLB brew pub? 100%. But you've got to put my wife on the list too. Nancy? I prefer Nancy to Todd. Okay. And let me know if your kids need to attend too.
Starting point is 00:23:00 No, Grace, my daughter's in Ottawa. My son probably works. Okay. So you are on the list. So come out and chat up Todd. You can talk 70s, Swansea. And you know what? I'll bring some books if people want.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Bring some books. We did a giveaway last time, right? Yeah. Bring some books. I'm going to bring some books as well because a lot of authors come over and leave their books. So I won't be bringing your book. But I'm going to bring some books and we can, you know, give away some books. I'll bring some books and it'll be a giveaway.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They're not going to be for sale. They'll be signed. I'll sign the books for you. Before the jam. I'm getting to a jam right away. And then it's going to be mainly you, the rest of the way. Okay, sure.
Starting point is 00:23:37 But this is episode 1940. So I was wondering, what happened in Toronto, what happened in history in 1940? This is before our time, taught.
Starting point is 00:23:47 But I'm here to tell you, it's not a Swansea happening, not a Toronto happening. But in 1940, our prime minister was William Lyne McKenzie, and Canada, of course, was at war,
Starting point is 00:24:00 World War II. And then this happened on August 7th, 1940. unemployment insurance is introduced. Wow. So you are introduced for Canadians in 1940. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I mean, I'm not a, well. You're not a on the dole. I'm not a socialist, but something like that is, I agree with me. You pay into it.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You know, you just shouted out the library for having your book, okay? Yes. So you're a little bit of a socialist. Oh, am I?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, well, a little bit. Are you okay of the fire department? Uh, okay. You know what? You're not a sugar loaf.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Well, I'm not a libertarian. Well, I'm not really a libertarian, but I don't go that far. But, yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think stuff like that is great. Are you a sugar loaf? Put that on. Here we go. And I'll follow your lead on these things. If you start talking, I'll bring it down.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah, sure. Directly assistance, every quote two on two. I say, hey, Am I, this is Mr. Rhythm. Okay, take it down a little bit, right there. No, you just start talking and then I'll bring it down. Okay, sorry. Too much direction. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Who's the producer of this show? Yeah, you're right. So right there in the words, he says, hey, Mr. A&R, right? People don't know what that is, right? Like, that's artists and what's the R stand for? I can't remember. Records? It's not records.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But we know about A&R reps, like a Cam Carpenter or even a Kevin Shea. It's artists and repertoire. I think. Okay, okay, but they would represent an artist. Like, try to get their music on the radio. Well, these are the guys who, they're the gaykeepers. So they, if you don't, you don't get the, that's what this whole song's about.
Starting point is 00:25:56 About trying to get your record. And what's the name of this song? Don't call us, we'll call you. See, I don't know, I don't know the song and I don't know the band. Oh, Sugarloaf. You need to educate me because I miss this. Sure. Yeah, so that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:10 And it's, we listened to this. This was out a lot when we were kids. Right playing at the rec center. And it's just, dun, it's just great, great, great, great tunes.
Starting point is 00:26:19 And we're talking, what year are we talking? Do you know? Do you have that? 73. I actually have that detail for you. Yeah. So this is 1974.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Four, okay. I'm surprised we have the touch tone dialing there. I thought it would be the sound of a dial. I think it came out like you in the 60s, but you had to have money to do that, right? Rich people had touch tone in 1974.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Because I know in my home, and I was born in 74, but I remember early 80s. 80s, we were still dialed. So I think our touchtone showed up in like 85 or something. Well, if you lived on Riverside, you had touchstone. Swansea had it before the rest of the city. You got it.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So, hey. Artisan repertoire. Hey, A&R. This is Mr. Rhythmin' Blues. Right. So he's calling the guy trying to get his, trying to get the record on, right? He's a big man to record. That's what you get.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You get the brush off right away, right? If you know, buddy, don't call us. We'll call you, right? Right. Was there paola going on? What was going on? You'll get on the air. Let's get a costume.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh, I think there was paola going on. But they don't talk about that in this song, but there's definitely paola going on. Also, another move, in the 70, I think in some form it is. Yeah, right. But I think also in the 70s, there was that whole,
Starting point is 00:27:28 here's a bag of white powder. Mr. DJ, put this on in the mix. You mean cocaine? Was there cocaine in Swansea? I never saw. Peter Gross will tell you, about that because he had a experience with cocaine in the 80s. Has it touched it since, but he got in deep.
Starting point is 00:27:49 We can get into that myth bust. We're going to get into myth busting later. Yeah, one of them is, one of them is recreational narcotics. Okay. Yeah. We'll get into that. But you know what? I'm going to tell you, Todd, you're back for your second round.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I'm going to remind people, or maybe they don't know, or maybe I'm educating people, that you were here not that long ago. About six months ago. Yeah. February 18th. Cold. He was cold. I looked at our photo.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'm wearing the Canada jersey. So maybe the Olympics were going on, I guess. And we ended up getting silver. I don't want to talk about it. But silver, throw it in the garbage as far as I'm concerned. Our hockey team is gold or get the F out of here. It was episode 1851 of Toronto Mike. And you painted a beautiful picture for me about what it was like to be a 1970s teenager in Swansea.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And it was, we did about 90 minutes. And it was begging for. sequel and I'm here to tell you Todd, you're back because I love you. Thanks, party. Petting bells are ringing in the chapel just over the hill. What is this your play? This is not your song? No.
Starting point is 00:29:30 You know what? I'm so embarrassed. Todd, I'm not fixing this in post because I like the mistakes to be exposed, okay? So when did it, you must acclude in early. It was the wrong song. Like you didn't say anything. I thought you're doing something. You thought I was doing something.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah. Oh, I'm not that. So hold on here. I'm moving it to YouTube. I don't... You told me to stop directing and produce you. I thought... Yeah, who is this?
Starting point is 00:29:52 I can take direction. Who is this? I have no idea. What's the song you were trying to play? Climax Blues Band. Oh. Oh, that's funny. Okay, so here's what I want to play.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Play the Climax Blues Band. Well, I know. That's what you wanted. I am part of it. I was wondering where this jam was coming from. If you can find it. I'll find it. There we go.
Starting point is 00:30:21 There you go. That's hilarious, Tom. Okay, this is more like it. This is more. This is 70s. This is 70s. This is me and my wife. Okay, let me listen about you and Nancy.
Starting point is 00:30:50 When we're teenagers, man. See, I think this is 81. It is. But it's still my wife. It's still me and my wife. We're teenagers. Just because it's 801, still the story of us. Well, she wasn't far away.
Starting point is 00:31:17 She just wants to go. Not feeling down, but hitting the beer, for sure. Great Lakes beer. Todd, I have a question about the Climax Blues Band. Do they have any other radio hits? Yeah, definitely. I don't know what they are, but yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah, yeah. Because, I mean, it's funny, I know this song. Yep. So finally, you kicked out a song I actually know, but I couldn't have told you who was performing this song. Right. If you said to me, Mike, who does I love you? I would have been wrong.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Right. So this is really, you know, because it took me so long to get Nancy, maybe a year, but I was working because I had left to school early, thrown out. I was discussed in episode, whatever that was. Yeah. And I was working, and she was still at Humberside. So I would sometimes go up and try to talk to her in my car, right?
Starting point is 00:32:37 And this song is all about that, all about just, Sort of trying to get her. And, you know, when you're young, you got these hormones, right? You just... When you're young, I still have those hormones. You just want, well, I mean, like, you just want that woman. Right? Well, yeah, but you're already married, so you don't have to go after them anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:32:57 You know. Speaking of Humberside, if I may hijack your... Yeah. Episode. My oldest daughter went to Humberside, and today is... her 22nd birthday. Wow. Happy birthday to my Michelle. You mentioned your daughter's in Ottawa?
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. My daughter is in Montreal. You know, we were driving around, I guess, a couple months ago with just me and my daughter in the car, and we drove on the way home, we drove past Humberside, and she's 35 now. And so she just, she said to me, Dad. this is so beautiful here. And she said, thank you so much
Starting point is 00:33:45 for helping me or keeping me in this school, in this neighborhood, right? It's a great school there. It's a great school. Yeah, when she said that to me, I just thought, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:56 I did my best to keep you in Swansea and keep you in the school. She thanked me for that experience that she said I gave her, which is a little emotional. No, I like you getting emotional. It's my daughter's birthday, but you're choking up over here.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Listen, cry on this. show if you wish. It's good for the ratings. I cut it out and I put it on social media and I go, tears will flow. And it's not just Stu Jeffries who cries on Toronto Mike. There you. So, Todd Bueller. Bueller. Yeah. Okay, thank you for playing that. Let me ask you
Starting point is 00:34:24 a question before I kick out this next one. Yeah. Prague Rock. Yeah. Okay. So we do a monthly series on Toronto Mike called Toast. Yeah. And Rob Pruss and Bob Willett, neither of whom are at TMLX-22. Well, I watch that. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:40 They were just here, and we were kicking out 90s Eurodance, and then we pick a topic for the next month. So we picked our topic for August 2026. The topic is Prague rock. And I've been doing homework and learning, because I realize I actually don't really understand what is Prague rock. I know the bands people talk about. We're going to hear some coming up on your list.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So I'm wondering if maybe during the next couple of songs or whatever, if you can speak to your experience growing up in Swansea in the 70s, and what was Prague rock and when it mattered to you and how you define it and all of that. Like you can, along the way as you tell your stories, you can educate me on Prague rock. Sure. Since I get a sense, you're a fan. Yeah, definitely. And we've got some Prague rock coming up.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Okay. Are you going to hit it? We're going to hit it because this is a big one. Okay. Yeah. It was funny when I pulled the wrong song for I love you. It's okay. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I'm like, this isn't 70s. We're back on track right now. This isn't a Todd Bueller jam? No way. That was not. So like, okay. This is a song from a band who people think is a rock band. These guys are not a rock band.
Starting point is 00:35:57 These guys are a progressive rock band. This is a song where you're in someone's, your buddy's basement. Drinking. Smoking. What are you smoking? Me, just cigarettes. Other people, the weed. Cannabis. The smoke and the Mary Jane. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And you just go back, the lights go down. Maybe you've got a black light, right? Black light, right? And this song, and this song just comes on, you just melt into the chair, right? And no one talks. No talking. This is the epitome of catharsis, right? When this song is over, you're exhausted.
Starting point is 00:38:03 If I'm listening to it, right? You're spent. Yeah, just, you just, oh, my God. And then you hear the knock from upstairs. You boys, turn that down. But it's beautiful. Like, so is this song an example of prog rock? 100%.
Starting point is 00:38:20 This is Pink Floyd. The Dark Side of the Moon. The Dark Side of the Moon. This song is called The Great Gig in the Sky. And this, I think I talked about this before. I don't know. This is in my book, though. And this is the first time I heard Pink Floyd.
Starting point is 00:38:35 of my life was at the master's house, the neighbors who live up the street and the guy named Frank Masters. And he played this album for me. And I was 13 or just, that's it. I switched right over from bubble gum, bubble gum to serious music. Right. That's what Prague Rock is. It's serious music. Serious music. And this is a rare Pink Floyd song that includes, you know, features somebody who's not in the band. Because that's clear Tori. That's right. She just, they needed someone apparently the story behind that they needed someone to sing this part and I don't know if they couldn't find anyone
Starting point is 00:39:16 and they just someone just called her up and she was just a session singer session vocalist yeah and she said yeah I'll be there and she went and she belted this out apparently in one take she apparently almost couldn't do it because she wanted to go see Chuck Barry like so I think
Starting point is 00:39:35 had to move things around because something like that she had a commitment to see Chuck Berry. But yeah, she's just, well, not Jess, but she's a session vocalist. And I mean, as I listened to her, and she sounds amazing on this track, which is an amazing track, but there's no, she doesn't say any words.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Right. She's not singing a word. She's just sort of singing. Just She's wailing. And you know, when you said about, she almost didn't do it, right. It's history moves in mysterious ways. doesn't it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But she did sue Pink Floyd, because she didn't get any royalties. So why didn't they give her some money? I know. It's not like they don't have a couple billion bucks themselves. How many units did directs? Like 100 million probably. You know, it's still selling.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's one of those albums that continues to sell. I bought it probably 10 times. Like cassette, eight track. Right. So she sues, it was 2004, so 22 years ago,
Starting point is 00:40:29 she sues for songwriting royalties because she wrote this, whatever, she's not singing words, but she co-authored this song and she's a huge component of this song. So I'm trying to see here, there was a hearing in the high court and an out-of-court settlement was reached, but they didn't
Starting point is 00:40:47 disclose how much money she received. They should have just given like $5 or $10 million like 20, 30 years ago, right? I mean, really, these guys have got so much money. So Pink Floyd, I know, how much is too much? Well, you know, Roger Waters is a greedy. He's a little strange. He's a little strange.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd, is that like the definitive Prague rock album? No, I don't know if there's a definitive Prague rock album. But people think it's rock, but it's not rock and roll. It's Prague rock. No, I don't think there is a definitive. Okay, okay. Do you know who played at the,
Starting point is 00:41:21 it's now known as the RBC Amphitheater. Do you know who was playing last night? I do not. Okay, well, it is Sticks. And lead singer of Sticks today. Do you know who's lead singer of Sticks today? Is Larry Gowan. Larry Gowan.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Do you want to kick out another one here? Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Oh, yeah. This is Lorelei. This is Young Love again. Okay, I love the Young Love stories.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Me and Nancy moved out together. We were 21. Yep, miss me and her. Down in Lake Crescent, actually. Not far from here. Right. Mimico. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I liked by it earlier. That's Dennis DeYoung singing, right? Just killing voice. You know, I love that, that keyboard. I never really got into sticks, but I'm in a, you should be actually in it.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'm in an FOTM group, and many of whom were at the concert last night, and a bunch of whom wanted to be at the concert last night. And it's, I think I'm a Titch Young. Like, I grew up, of Mr. Roboto. That's a good song.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, but I think the Sticks fanatics don't like that song. I don't mind it. I mean, yeah, it's, yeah, Sticks is really 70s, right? So I miss Sticks,
Starting point is 00:43:23 but I also miss Triumph, like I missed a bunch of these bands, but it's amazing to hear if you're like five to ten years older than me, where's, like how Sticks really matters to you. Oh, big time. Sticks was,
Starting point is 00:43:36 we listened to Sticks a lot, right? It's Sticks Prague Rock. Uh, Sometimes? Yeah. Yeah, sometimes. It's more of a pop rock, but it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I would call it kind of proggy. Okay. Yeah, especially like some song called Snowblind, about cocaine and there's some other. Shout out to John Gallagher. And there's, yeah. Like, just listen to this. Listen to this ending here.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Listen to that harmony. That's why I love coming on your show. Just play out of screen music. Well, this is why I say yes. because it's fun to sit in the basement and listen to these jams with you. 100% thanks, same here. And I actually, because I was born in 74,
Starting point is 00:44:44 like, because you've got a couple years on me, I like to experience what it would have been like if I were born like, you know, 10 years earlier. Yeah. I kind of get off on that. Now, is there a reason you and Nancy didn't buy tickets to go see sticks last night? You don't go out anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:01 No, that's not true. I didn't know that they were, I didn't know. I was getting ready for this show. You know what hardest? Prepare for this show? I understand. You had prep to do for your Toronto mic to return. Hours, days, weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And do you care that it's a new lead singer? Like, are you like, no, I want Dennis. No, Gowlin's good. Of course I would like Dennis, but Gowland's, Gowland does a pretty good job. Like, he's on the, I don't know, he's on the keyboard. Yeah, he's spinning around, right?
Starting point is 00:45:26 On stage, the whole keyboard and the whole set of beats of spinning around. I've seen it. I've seen them, though. Just checking in on the live stream, Jeremy Hopkins is there, and Jeremy Hopkins says, Swansea recently celebrated its 100th anniversary, and he was there for this shindig.
Starting point is 00:45:41 1926, that's right, yeah. Yeah, so happy 100th birth date to Swansea. Yeah, and there's, yeah, there's a plaque in the middle of the Coochidome in Rennie Park. And I think the date on there is 1926 to 19, whenever it was put down, 1966, I think. That's when they built a dome. Okay, and I know I've said this on your previous visit, and I say it often.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I think I said it at Scatting Cabin, but I did play my House League hockey at the Swansea Hockey Association on the ice at Rennie Park. But did they play sticks? They played Mr. Robotto. They used to play rock sometimes late at night. Possibly, but not during my games. No, not during the game, like at free skate and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Oh, I bet. I bet you they did. And I know we have a popular skating rink nearing here at Colonel Samuel Smith Park, and they're still playing jams, but I don't think they're playing sticks. I'm going to have to make a call or two days. Amber Morley. Just tell them who you are
Starting point is 00:46:37 and that'll be that. Well, yeah, Amber Morley takes my calls. I'll be like, I want sticks at the skating at Colonel Samuel Smith Park. I'm kind of keen to kick out this next jam
Starting point is 00:46:45 because I think of people, my vintage or a little younger, will say, oh, I learned about this song from a little movie called Wayne's World. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Shout out to Wayne Campbell. Oh, yes. Oh, is that in the movie? Yeah, Garth sees a attractive woman. and I think this song starts playing in his head, as I recall. See, so that's what happens. And I had the soundtrack to this movie, Wayne's World, and this was on the soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Does that only happen to guys with the music when they see it? Or does that happen to women, too? I thought you stole that from you. You know, Mike Carr did steal that for me. Scarborough guy. He's a Toronto guy. He stole that from me. I've just closed my eyes again. And aboard the dream we've a train.
Starting point is 00:47:39 This stereo going back and forth in the headphones. Yeah, it's great. Let me guess. This is about Nancy. No. This is just a song we listened to once in a while. We used to go for... It's trippy. You know, in the 70s, we would do, we would go for...
Starting point is 00:48:37 We would just go driving on Sundays. Because, you know, there wasn't a lot of people in Toronto. There wasn't a lot of traffic. We just hop on the car and drive around, right? Like Lake Shore? What were you doing there? We're also in the middle of the city. Yeah, Lakeshore downtown.
Starting point is 00:48:55 We just were doing it around for. Doing a little bluer street? Yeah, for two or three hours, you know. And this song was, we would play this song in the car for sure. This song is 1975. Yeah. So the same as Lorelei. Elp we played too a little bit.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Elp, that is Prague, Frog Rock. Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. Yeah, that's Parag Rock. Okay. I'm trying to educate myself on Prague-Rog for the next toast. I take it very seriously. Yeah, that's why I'm so hard on Rob Pruse. I expect the highest caliber of production here.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Okay. So this is, yeah. Gary Wright. Yeah. Does he have any other radio hits or is he all about the Dream Wave? I don't know. I think he might. He's a British guy? He's dead now, right?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Don't know either of those. Well, I think he's dead, but I'm going to find out. I think he's British too. Let's find out here. Gary is right. This is a big hit, man. Oh, yeah. Well, big enough for Wayne's.
Starting point is 00:49:46 There you go. So he died in 2023. And he was American, not British. He had another hit song called Love is Alive. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, that song. So he's got a couple of hits under his belt. Same kind of style, not rock, not pro-rock, just kind of.
Starting point is 00:50:05 But you know, this music is like you said in the last podcast we did together in February, about you said, you know, Tom, there's a lot of spacey stuff happening. Yeah, well, this is spacey. This is pretty spacey, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Totally. There's a lot of spacey going on in your 70s jam.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And, you know, it's weird because I've never heard that before, but you can pick it out because you're... Because I'm not from... Right. I was listening to Sesame Street and... I was listening to Big Bird and Oscar. Well, you're coming from the outside, so you see something that I don't even think about. And as soon as you... Very spacey.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah, as soon as you say, and I'm listening to... Yeah, Mike's right. There's a lot of spacey stuff, man. You have any thoughts on the band FM? Yeah, they're in Toronto. Yeah. Nash the Slash, I think. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So I just had an exchange yesterday with Cam Hawkins, who's the lead singer for FM. And there will be exciting news. I'm not going to broadcast the news yet because I'm going to let Cam come on the show and do it himself. You're going to have him on the show? Yes, sir. I met him at the documentary screening of the Nash, the Slash documentary documentary. I am in good company. Yeah, listen, you're on the show.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Cam Hawkins is going to be on the show. Amazing. Rob Pruss is on the show. What more do you want here? Yes, great. You know, we listen to National Slash. Not so much, not a lot, but it was there. Well, that one song, Phasers on Stunned.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. That's the jam, and that's a spacey jam. Yeah. That's what I was thinking about, what? A spacey jam. A lot of spacey stuff. Absolutely. You guys were, you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Ever since Man landed on the moon in 1969, musicians just wanted to sing about space and sound space. I got something I got to give you here. Okay, give me something here. Because I want to shout out. I mentioned Makara. I hope I'm saying that right, but Makara misses those days spent in the laneway
Starting point is 00:51:56 sitting in the Bueller garage. Oh my God. What was going on in that Bueller garage? Well, you know, that's, that was the cool hangout. If you're cool, you, you're, who owns the Bueller garage now? I don't know. Let's make a bid for it.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Still there. Let's get it back in the family. But you know, let me do a play by play. Yeah. So Todd Bueller, because most people are listening and not watching, has in his hand, it looks like it's, what the hell is it? It looks like it's, uh, I got to get it out here. Okay, take it.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Well, what are you taking out there, Todd? Now, you got, you have to be careful here. This is very delicate, okay. I don't even know what it is yet. Okay. Okay. Okay, I'm nervous. I don't want to, anything delicate in my hands here.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Okay. Okay. This is, that's a map of Swansea. Yeah, this is right from my book. That's in your book. Yeah. Swansea, it's right beside, of course, High Park.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Yep. And there's the Humber River. So, yeah, this one's the neighborhood, so it's all, it's all set out. Do you want, you want to hold it? I'll hold it. That's for you. That's a gift for you.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I get to keep this. You 100%. So this means a lot to me, because I didn't, I wasn't raised in. Don't crazy. Oh, yeah, don't worry. I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:53:01 This is special. This is signed and limited, signed by the artist, and limited numbered on the bottom. It means a lot to me because I went to primary school to a couple. One was St. Cecilius. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Catholic. Yeah. But you're out of that now, right? I'm out of that now. I escaped. I escaped. Yes. So I started at St.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Cecilius, which was on Annette, not far from, well, Quebec, but not far from, like, High Park or whatever. And right up the street from Humberside.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Right down the street from Humbers. And then I switched to Jane and Bloor, St. Pius. Same Pius. Another Catholic school. Also, yeah, I didn't get a saying these matters, actually. So I'm at Catholic school,
Starting point is 00:53:42 Jane and Bluer. So you're not in Swansea, but you're so damn close that a lot of your activities, my activities as a young man were happening in Swansea. And I had a lot of buddies. And we've mentioned Reni Park, where coincidentally, my thirdborn now, actually, and my fourthborn, they both play at Reni Park now that I think about it. But I played hockey there, and I played softball and tee ball there. And I'm looking here, and I'm still biking these streets today.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I see Sunnyside. I did an episode about Sunnyside with Jeremy Hopkins, who we've mentioned, and there's a great Sunnyside session IPA and your beer that you're taking from Great Lakes Brewery. I love this, is what I'm telling you. You know, a lot of Toronto history here. And that, that is number four of 200. And, okay, this is special because. How much does this cost you, Todd?
Starting point is 00:54:31 How much do I owe you for that? I can't tell you that. Now, this is special because limited edition, and I get the first five. They're not for sale. You cannot buy the first five. This is number four. I'll make you an offer. No.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And there's just one extra thing that comes with it. I'm listening. You have to get it. I get it. I got to recite a poem for me. I know. You got to get this. No,
Starting point is 00:54:51 I'm not reciting a poem for you. So this is a letter of authenticity that goes with it. This is hand signed and matching hand numbered by me. These, you have to keep these together because if someone tries to like take this off the internet. This will probably go on the wall if that's okay. Because I want people to see it. You can put that.
Starting point is 00:55:10 This might be filed away with my last will and testament. This might buy your kids a house one day. Oh, gosh, in Toronto? Yeah. That's going to be something. So I mentioned my last will and testament and may I take the opportunity to shout out Ridley Funeral Home? Yeah, of course. Great.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Whoa. And I'm going to treat this carefully, but that is a measuring tape for you, Todd, from Ridley Funeral Home. Thank you so much. So this is going right beside. I'm reading it now. Congratulations on your purchase of this individually numbered limited edition, hand-drawn print of the Swansea map from my book, The Life of a 1970s teenager.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Can I say even though we kind of just met in February, I'm proud of you. Oh, thank you. Because you wrote this book. Yep. And now it's a thing in the world, and Peter Gross is reading it. And now there's this map and there's this letter
Starting point is 00:56:02 that you sign number four of 200. Yeah, limited, yeah. And if you look at it, if I take the last zero out, it says 420, and it gives me an opportunity to shout out Canada Cove, and I'm going to treat that with a lot of respect. Jeremy Hopkins shouts out the Laser Floyd Planetarium jams. Did you ever go to Laser Floyd at the planetarium?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Who didn't? You know, the planetarium's gone now, too. I know. Pretty sad state of affairs. You know, my kids will never know the joy of going to that. Okay, wow, I guess that's after we played great gig in the sky. Okay, can I, what a moment here. Have I given you all your gifts? Let me give you one more gift.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Okay. Because you didn't get this in February. Wow. This book is the history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. They play at Christy Piz. You can hold it up. They play tonight. My plan all along was I was going to bike to Christy Pits to take in this game at 7.30.
Starting point is 00:56:53 But I now need to record an episode of the WPBL podcast. This is the Women's Professional Baseball League, which has their first game on August 1st. Look at this book. I can't get to this game at 730 because I'm recording at 730. It's a whole rigma role. And I won't bore you. the details, although I already have. But let's just say, I will
Starting point is 00:57:13 definitely be at the game. I'm opening my calendar. I am going to be at Christy Pitts for the Leafs game on Saturday night. So at 7.30 p.m. That's a night game. Those are the best. Saturday, August 1st, I'm going to Christy Pitts to watch the Leafs in action.
Starting point is 00:57:29 You can go, no ticket required. And Todd, that's a book on the history of... Thank you so much. This is, wow, this is great. Yeah, you got that, you got your beer, you got your palm pasta, you got your measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home and I'm going to, before I shout out the last two sponsors, I'm going to kick out
Starting point is 00:57:45 another jam because I want some music in my ears. Sure. Also Spacey. Little bit, literally. Is this a different version? Oh, you know what? If I screwed out again? You know why? Because I didn't listen to any of these. I just sort of pulled them. So you don't recognize this yet.
Starting point is 00:58:02 No, I know what it is. It's... Okay, let it run and let me see if I got it right. Let it run. I can't screw up twice in the same episode, Tom. No. You're going to find a new... You've got to pick a different one. This is like the Muzac.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Maybe this is a prelude? No. No. Well, let me skip to this part and tell me if it becomes your... No, because it should be singing already. No. What the hell is this? You're going to find a new podcast, man.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's a remake. That's a remake. Really? You know what? You have to get the original. This is the danger when I'm not familiar of the song. Okay, yeah. So give me a second here.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I'm going to have this for you. That's okay. I'll talk it up. Well, you know, so I've got it already because I'm on YouTube. Yeah, that looks like red. I thought that's what I pulled. There we go.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Oh, I see. I did have a cover. Yeah, that's right. That's, this is the right one. My humblest apologies to you, Mr. Bueller. No problem. This is ELO. Electric Light Orchestra.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Biggest attended concert in Toronto. tour history. I was there. 100,000 people at the Cini exhibition, 1978, I think. 100,000 people got to that venue. Yeah, not the scene exhibition. That's redundant.
Starting point is 00:59:25 The band show? No. No, not the band shell. Where the stadium was. Yeah, I can't remember what was called. Exhibition Stadium. Exhibition Stadium, yeah. Just mad. 100,000 people. Is that more than SARS talk? They might have beat the
Starting point is 00:59:42 record stars. Maybe Sartstock might have beat it, yeah. So it held for a long time. Is this Prague rock? Yeah, this is pretty, yeah. Some people will not call it Prague rock, I will. Jeff Lynn, I think, is the singer?
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yes, sir. Meatloaf open for these guys. The late great meatloat. Yeah. It's just a boy when I went to see it. Just a young lad. Did you and Nancy ever experience Paradise by the dashboard light? I don't want to embarrass her.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Is that how kid number one showed up? You know, I like the song. I know of it, but I haven't spent enough time with ELO. I would love to talk about that thing you just said, but I don't want to embarrass my wife. Well, she's listening in line. Okay, our first child was not planned. How's that? Oh, this is a real talk.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Real talk. Our first child was now, and I was just about to go to college. And we were driving up, Ellis. I know, Ellis. I bike it up, Alice. And my wife said to me, well, Nancy said to me, I got some to tell you. I said, wow. This was in the spring, I think.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Or maybe summer, and I can't, spring. And I was going to start college for three years in September. That means broke, right? Poverty, right? She goes, I'm probably, we're going to have a baby. We were married, right? I just went, what?
Starting point is 01:01:29 And you're like, how did that happen? And she needed to have a long talk with you. Was that an accident? This is how it works, my friend. Okay. Wow. Okay, so that's my first daughter, Grace. Like, that's sort of, no,
Starting point is 01:01:45 because Homer and Marge weren't married when Bart... We were married. You were married. We lived in sin, but we did not have a child out of wedlock. No children out of wedlock for the Bueller's. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Okay. So, was the second child planned? Yes. The boy, Jake. Yeah. Great kid. So when we drove up and I was just kind of shocked and I went, all these things going through my head, oh my God, I'm going to be able to go to school, right?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Because this is all in my book, right? And I just... You wrote a book? and then this all happened like just going up Ellis like a thousand things going through my head in like two minutes and she's just looking at me I'm just going so I just went that's great
Starting point is 01:02:31 we'll get through it whatever it is I'm going to school and we'll get through it and we did so here's Ellis so I can kind of see you drive it along your processing going north Nancy yep Nancy dropped the bomb on you She did. She just dropped the bomb on me in the car. Did you continue on to Kennedy Ave? Yeah. Did you turn off and then go to running me?
Starting point is 01:02:51 No, we went up to Morningside. Oh, yeah. And then left. And then left. That's where we got married. I got married in that church. Okay. My daughter just did a musical theater thing there.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Beautiful church. Morningside Presbyterian church, right? Morningside High Park. Wow. Okay. Loving this, man. This is the episode for all the Swansea heads out there. My goodness.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And that's some real talk from Todd Buehler there. And again, I put you. or two of your, well, one, I really got wrong. This one got a little bit wrong. Oh, we got it, though. We got them. Okay, and I want to know, this next one, I want to know if it's prog rock. You've got to keep me advising me if it's Prog Rock, but there's a 50% chance I'm going to play the wrong song.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Let's see what I got here. You'll tell me right away. This is correct. Thank God. This is Prog Rock. Do you want me to say who this is who you want to do? No, you can tell us. This is the Alan Parsons Project.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I think this is from an album called I World. Robot. Big 70s stuff. What makes the song Prog Rock, though? Is it just the... It's the whole feel of it. It's calm but exciting too right now when it starts up. Hold on, wait.
Starting point is 01:03:58 It's building, right? There's no heavy... This guy did serious, right? The song you'd hear when the polls come out. He produced Dark Side of the Moon, I believe. Yeah, see, this is just different. Different music. So this is not, this is rock, but it's not ACDC.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah, I was really not into that ACDC stuff. Was it too strident for you? Too, too low. Too, yeah, yeah, yeah. Prague rock is, I guess, for the cooler kids. I guess we talked about that people. Smarter kids, maybe? Is there a bit of math rock going on?
Starting point is 01:05:26 And Jean de Poitier. Yeah, I saw that what you did. You know, we just, we, there was a group of us who looked down on people who listened to this raw, uh, non-Prog rock. Like what about like, like Aerosmith? What would you think of an Aerosmith fan? No, didn't listen to it. No, because it's too, uh, it's like, what about Boston more than a feeling?
Starting point is 01:05:47 Yeah, we listen to that because that's Prague. Okay, that's Prague. Okay, Samler, I'm taking notes over here, Todd. I got to learn these things. It's straight up rock and roll, but it's also Prague rock, right? What about Eagles? Eagles yacht rock. That's for the older guys.
Starting point is 01:06:00 That's for the older guys. Maybe, you know, that's for the older guys. If you're a guitar player, though, that's different, right? Because you isolate it out. I play guitar. Okay. You isolate it out. But, yeah, this is Prague.
Starting point is 01:06:11 So, and this song, people think he's talking to someone, I don't care, I wouldn't want to be like you personally. But it's not. What this song is about is when the robots take over. This is the humans talking to the robots saying, I don't want to be like you, like, emotionless. nothing. Well, this is a song for 2026 with the AI takeover.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Yeah, this is. Us humans talking to the AI. That's exactly what it is. It's not someone talking to. Alan Parsons, ahead of his time with this one. Okay, because we don't want AI to become conscious.
Starting point is 01:06:43 No, that's not going to happen. Promise? Okay. I programmed computer for 30 years. It's not going to happen. Okay. I have a question for you.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yes. Can you name the surviving members of the traveling Wilburys? No. We called them the traveling has been when we were kids. I think one of them was a Beatles. I don't know surviving members. What do you mean one of them was a beetle?
Starting point is 01:07:03 Are you that ignorant? Jeff Lynn? Yeah. So, E-L-L-O we just played. So Jeff Lynn's still alive. There's one more member of the traveling Wilburys who's still alive. Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Still with us. And he's got to be 85. Wasn't one of them a beetle? Yeah. George Harrison's in that band. Right. Well, because Jeff Lynn was producing Cloud 9 and, for George Harrison.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Right. I got my mindset on you. Okay, because now you're in my era. Yeah, I hate that. And this time, that's a cover, by the way. Oh, okay. You know there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:39 But I wanted to shout out that. And I also want to shout out the best Beatles song, The Beatles did not write, which I believe to be Mr. Blue Sky by ELO. That's a jam from ELO. Yeah. My wife likes that song. Yeah, I think it's the best Beatles song
Starting point is 01:07:54 the Beatles didn't write, if you will here. This is great. Okay. What do we? We got more left? Yeah, we have a couple more left. You ready?
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. That's Spacey a little bit. It's 70s Spacey. It is Spacey. See how simple it is? It's Benjamin Orr. Oh, wait. He sang dry.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah, he's the best singer in a band. Yeah, we used to drive around listening this. 100%. So people say that this is, whenever it came out, people said it was New Wave. Kind of like, and with Debra Harry, right? Blondie. And Blondie.
Starting point is 01:09:09 And talking heads. Yeah, in 1978, right? And they said this is New Wave, and some people said it's punk. This is the cars. It's like a post-punk. So, yeah, it's a new wave, I think. We didn't say it. Yeah, we didn't say it's the car.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Cars, yeah. And then, but when we were listening to it, we thought it was Prague. Okay. Yeah. We listened this a lot when we were kids, they were teenagers. And you mentioned Benjamin Orr. Yeah, great, great musician. Who, I mentioned his big hit that he was on lead for was called Drive.
Starting point is 01:09:44 That was a big Cars hit that I hear in the real time. But the other guy, Rick O'Kasik, would go on to produce the first Weezer album. You know, Ben or he, the songs he sang, those are all the, just my opinion, those are the best car songs. Because he just has the voice. And actually, Mokasek said that he couldn't sing some of these songs. He said, only Ben could sing these songs. He's my, you might think I'm crazy. Or that style.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah, he's a good writer. Yeah, he's a good writer. But he's no Benjamin Orr. He's no Benjamin Orr. It's interesting to have these bands. We actually mentioned the Eagles earlier, but the bands with multiple lead singers. A lot of bands, it's always the same guy on lead.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It's interesting to have these bands where there's more than one lead singer. I mean, I don't mind Yacht Rock, but it's not something we really listen to that much. Maybe Hotel California, but we didn't really listen a lot of that yacht rock. That was for older. What about Michael McDonald? What about when he was with the Doobie brothers?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Mr. and Mrs. Doobie must be very proud of their boys. I can tell you that. Speaking of 420. Another spacey jam, though, it's definitely New Wavey. Yeah. Yeah. New wavy, is that right? But, you know, as you say, Prague Rocks, you were there.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Yep. Yeah, I hear it. Maybe I should kick this out on toast next month and blow some minds. The car is moving in stereo. One band I, think about a lot when I think about Prague Rock and my research is a little band from Toronto, a trio.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I do not know if you've heard of these guys, but I'm going to close this episode with a song from them. So it's not triumph, okay, Todd? I know you think I'm going to kick out some triumph. No, no. What are your thoughts on Max Webster? Great.
Starting point is 01:11:48 First two albums, fantastic. Kim Mitchell. Listen to a lot of that. I think we had a song last episode with that. They had also, They had, because Kim would sing lead on a lot, Kim Mitchell, but also they had the keyboard as to sang their biggest hit. He just passed away. Watkinson?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Yes, Terry Watkinson. Yeah. So it's another example of these bands. And I'm a big fan of Sloan. Never heard of them. Sloan. All four guys will sing lead on, you know. They're like the Beatles over there.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Wow. You know? Have they been on your show? All of them, yeah. All of them have been here, not together. Although Jay Ferguson and Chris Murphy came on together, but they've also been over separate. So now they're mad of me because I said never heard of it.
Starting point is 01:12:29 No. They're like, we never heard of you either. That's okay. So it's okay. So let me say, like we're in a spaceship. Leave it. It cut out.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Maybe it bleeds into another song. It does. Oh, okay, yeah. Okay. Oh, it does. I'm sorry. That's why it bleeds into another song. I want to say thank you to recycle my electronics.
Starting point is 01:12:58 com. Because, Todd, if you have old electronics, old devices, old cables, I don't want you throwing them in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill. Go to Recyclemyelectronics.ca, put in your postal code and find out where you can drop that off
Starting point is 01:13:12 to be properly recycled. You got it? Yeah. You got it. Okay. And shout out to Nick Ieanis. I wonder if Nick will make an appearance at TMLX23.
Starting point is 01:13:22 He's got to get on the list if he wants to be there. But again, everyone listening, write an email to Mike at TorontoMike.com. Put TMLX 23 in the title, the subject line, why am I saying title,
Starting point is 01:13:35 the subject line, and then just say, hey, I'd like to attend, and I'll put you on the list. We have a cap, so not everyone can come to TMLX23, and the location for TMLX23, where you get a beer on the house from Great Lakes,
Starting point is 01:13:50 and there'll be some food. The location is the brew pub at Jarvis and Queens Key. So this is the furthest east we get for a TMLX event. So you east, Enders can come on out to TMLX23. Just get on the list. Okay, one more jam to go.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Are you ready for this final jam? Hold on. So, hold on. So this map, this is by a local Toronto artist's name is Cam Ojetta. And you can get the car, there's still some left hand numbered and hand signed by him. Cam Ojedaart.com. Just how it's spelled just like it sounds. Well, he only made 200, you told me?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Of, of that one. Oh, this one. Okay. That style with, yeah. So Hopkin, that's you, all you historians out there. You got to get your mitts. Does he do one for New Toronto? Does he do it for other neighborhood?
Starting point is 01:14:40 He does a lot of, yep, he does a lot of maps. Okay, but this is special. This is actually in my book. Yeah, that's a Todd Bueller special. Yep. As far as I'm concerned. All right, here's a band I think of when I think of Prague Rock. And, of course, Toronto band, Trio, not Triumph.
Starting point is 01:14:57 That's all you need to know. Todd is so excited. That's a great song. He's so excited. It's a great song. I'll have a mind blow for you after you tell me more about this song. I have a mind blow for you about the singer of this song. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:38 So what's the name of this one? This song is called Circumstancers by a band called. Rush. There you go. Our own hometown boys. Circumstances. This is from 1978. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:51 So when you listen, Todd, to this song in the headphones, close your eyes and tell me where you are. Like, where does it take you right back to? Are you on a drive in Swansea? Where are you? I am with my teenage buddy on the Vinea Avenue in front of the Swansea Rec Center. It's late October, 1978.
Starting point is 01:16:17 This album just came out. I bought it on cassette. and we're just about, we just played some pool up in the rec center, some billiards. And we just come out and there's a girlfriend of ours there. And she goes, I want to take you guys picture. So we said, okay, hurry up. So she snaps the pitcher and that picture is in my bark. So then we went down to my garage.
Starting point is 01:16:50 in the Bueller garage with beer and pop this in the cassette, cranked it and had some beer. That's where this is from. Love it. The album called Hemisphere. It just came out in 7.m. Do you remember, Todd,
Starting point is 01:17:07 earlier in this wonderful chat, I told you my daughter is celebrating her birthday today? Yes. July 29th, my daughter's 22 years old today. My daughter shares a birthday with somebody very special. Do you know who else is celebrating a birthday today?
Starting point is 01:17:22 I do not. Getty Lee. Wow. That is... Today is... I was excited to blow your mind with this one. That was... That's...
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah. Do you know how old Getty Lee is today? July 23. Correct. Are you cheating? No. Okay. I cannot see.
Starting point is 01:17:41 No. You did a good job there. No. Seventy-three years old. Getty Lee. Happy birthday. What does your daughter think of that? that. You know what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:52 She probably, her thought would be, who's Getty Lee? That's great, Mike. I'll say he's the big Blue Jays fan who scores the games at the dome. Yeah, I'm sorry, I bumped your mic. No, you can bump my mic. The mic, bump the mic, bump the mic, okay? Because that's real. That's what happens. You get excited. That's what, that was real. I played two of the wrong, you gave me 10 songs. Clearly, I did no QA because I wanted to hear it for the first time with you,
Starting point is 01:18:18 even though some of them I recognize. Live recording, this is what happens, right? I wanted to react. Like, I didn't want to listen. I wanted to hear it with you in real time to know if I recognized this song. Yeah. Okay, yeah. You know, Dreamweaver, I knew I'd recognize it,
Starting point is 01:18:31 but I didn't want to play it because I just want to hear it with you for the first time. And it just so happens. A couple of the songs I pulled were the wrong songs, but at least one was a cover. One was completely out to lunch. But we heard 10 great songs, like a sequel episode. How was Round 2 for you, Todd Bueller? Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I loved it. Thanks for having me. me, thanks for having me back. Do you have 10 more songs in you? Of course. 100%. You want to invite me back? I will come back.
Starting point is 01:18:59 We'll do it again. I would do it again, Todd. Great. I say that because I actually really enjoy kicking out the jams with people. I don't know how long this episode will survive on Spotify. Like Spotify might boot it as they do. Okay. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:19:14 That's okay. It's going to be wherever else people get their podcasts and it's going to be on podcast addict. And YouTube. Yep. Well, you too will be tough, but hopefully Apple podcasts and all the other places people get podcasts. If people want a version of this podcast, I don't say this enough, but if you want a version of this podcast without those intrusive dynamically inserted ads, I don't know who the hell started putting them in my episodes. I'm pissed off. I'm going to find out.
Starting point is 01:19:40 But if you want a version that doesn't have those, just become a Patreon. It's five bucks a month. Go to patreon.com slash Toronto Mike. Sign up for five bucks a month. and you get a special feed without those dynamically inserted ads. Did you know that, Todd? I did not. Fantastic. I don't think I mentioned it enough.
Starting point is 01:19:57 But there's apparently I, there's a long one in my voice, which I did record. So it's not AI. It actually is me. But apparently I had to complain that it was repeating. Like you'd hear it a few times. So I said, no. You get to air that once an episode. And if people want to hear it zero times an episode, become a Patreon.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Right. I can't wait to see you and Nancy. at TMLX 23 on September 28th. We'll be there. Thanks for the invite. Thanks for having me today. Well, thanks for this map. Oh, man, I had a great time. This is great.
Starting point is 01:20:29 You know what? Where should I put the map? So I got a lot of cool shit here, right? You got the Wendell Clark. There's much music, the Sam, the Record Man. Maybe this guy, no, hope Jeremy's not listening anymore, but this guy, well, there's an ash the slash picture. But you can't just, like, pin it in.
Starting point is 01:20:44 This has to be framed, right? Because you can just stick a pin in. That's a weird size frame. Like, you're making a lot of work for you're watching. Why can't I... I didn't frame me because I don't know your style. I don't think you can tell me what to do with it. Oh, that's true. You got it.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You got it. I'll be careful. Okay. But I think it's going to go where this Leeside picture is. Yeah, that would be great. I think it's going to go right here. I mean, Swansea's part of you. Is it not?
Starting point is 01:21:05 Yeah, I played hockey at S-H-A. Your kids? My kids are playing there. And my... Not Swansea, because it's on Quebec there or whatever it is. But Clint-Denner, whatever it is. Yeah, but you went to St. Pius. I mean...
Starting point is 01:21:18 I know. I'm putting it up. There you go. You made the sale, man. I'm so honored to have it. Thank you so much. And I love this. You're a beloved FOTM, a key cog in the TMU wheel.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Oh, man, that's great. Thanks, Mike. I love what you do, Mike. I love that you love it. And who's the buddy who introduced us, who lives down the valley, Warren Park. Higgins. Chris Higgins. Great Swartzy historian.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Shout out to Chris Higgins. I love my chat with him as well. He wrote the forward to my first. Oh, here's some rush. There we go. Oh, this is good song. And that, who's saying that, do you think? Who says subdivisions?
Starting point is 01:21:57 It's Alex Lifeson who says that. It's not Alex Lifeson. He's lip-syncing in the video. Some say it's Neil Peart. I believe it's Mark Daly from Zan-TV. No, I saw them live. It's him. Well, he's doing it.
Starting point is 01:22:07 They can't, yeah, he might be doing it live. But on that recording, oh, we'll talk about this thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that brings us to the end of our 1,940th show. Go to Toronto Mike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs and much love to all who made this possible. That is Great Lakes Brewery, Palmer Pasta, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Nick Aienies, Recycle My Electronics.C.A. and Ridley Funeral Home. See you all tomorrow with downtown Jane Brown. She's the morning show host on Zoomer Radio. Can't wait to talk to Jane Brown.

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