Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #14

Episode Date: November 14, 2012

Toronto Mike and Rosie chat about the Shanahans, the name Gordon and grill Phil the Friday Intern about all things Humble and Fred

Hey Rosie, hey Mike. Welcome to episode 14. Yay! And in honor of number 14, listen closely to this and get ready for another trip down memory lane. Alright. all right here we go this is uh my very first time uh being solo on the board so these little technical glitches i think they add to the charm of the whole thing so you look like you know what you're doing. Yeah, I look good. That's what matters.

I didn't say you look good. I said you look like you know what you're doing. Representing the Toronto Maple Leafs, their second-inning star, number 14, forward Miroslav Frietcher. Rosie, that was Miroslav Frietcher. I knew him as Mirko Frietcher. I knew him better as Mirko Freacher. And I'll never forget that four-goal game he had in 86 against the Oilers.

We beat the Oilers. The Wayne Gretzky, Mark Messier, Yari Curry, Grant Fuhrer, Paul Coffey, need I go on, Oilers, 11-9. And I remember Motor City, Smitty got a goal. Wendell Clark scored. I mentioned the four goals by Mirko Frietscher. Tim Bernhardt got the win. That was a game I watched on a 13-inch black and white television in 86.

Wow. Your RCA? I don't know what it was, but, you know, as you might have heard, the Leafs have had a lack of success in our lifetime, and we took our victories where we could find them. Mike, it's very hard to sit here and play it cool, because we have coming up, and I'm not going to spoil it yet, but what is going to be our most famous guest ever.

I'm very excited. I'm so excited. But what about Ill Vibe? Is this guest bigger than Ill Vibe? I think in the world of podcasting, yes. And what about... As awesome as Ill Vibe is. Elvis, he ran marathons and stuff in Dublin. No, not even close.

Oh my God, love Elvis. Love all our guests up till now. They've been amazing. So inspiring and interesting. But I'm just talking sheer celebrity for sheer celebrity. Okay. Well, we'll introduce this. I'm worried now listeners are expecting somebody a little more famous, I think. But let's see what the reaction is, but we'll bring them on in a bit.

When I mentioned it's episode 14, I went with Miroslav Fritscher. Do you have any quick Fritscher memories? No. So I also considered... I have Panikoslav Freacher. Do you have any quick Freacher memories? No. So I also considered. I have Ponikarovsky memories. No, that's another number. It's a much higher number. I also considered going with my first non-Toronto athlete. And I almost went with Brendan Shanahan. His cousin was my high school biology teacher.

I was about to go there. Oh, sorry. Yeah, well, he went to Michael Power, where we went. And his siblings teach at Michael Power. I was going to ask you if you had been taught by a Shanahan. Oh, my gosh. So I think it was grade 10 biology. And Mr. Shanahan was his very first teaching job.

So at the time, my gosh, he couldn't have been more than, I don't know, 28, 29. And he was the loveliest, sweetest teacher. And I'll never forget because it was his very first day teaching ever in a real classroom. And, you know, it's tough. Grade 10, that's a tough, you know, it's a tough age to teach to, I think. You know, no one really listens. No one really, you know, really wants to be there. And I i'll never forget he lifted his arm to write something on the blackboard and he had under his arm he might hear this podcast oh my gosh oh but it's like endearing it was just so sweet like it was just he was just so nervous he had these like drenched armpits because he was but his brother was making so much money couldn't he have just given him like the teacher's salary and said go do something fun?

Well, no, because I actually think he genuinely loved teaching and he loved students because, you know, we were just idiots. And, you know, nobody cared about biology. And he really, really tried to teach. And I still remember, you know, in the test, everybody was cheating like crazy. And he never, ever, ever, you know, called anyone out. He just, like, looked past it all. But he was cool it was really really nice well i i loved how brendan shanahan played because he played that

physical tough as nails style but he could score goals better than anyone and he was a great leader he was the i always wish he was a toronto maple leaf he was he was a fantastic player he's from mimico yeah he's fromico. It all comes full circle. And yeah, shoutouts. I want to give a shoutout to Ryan G. Ryan G is a long time commenter. He's always funny and he even writes

the occasional guest blog entry. You have a brother, Ryan. Well, and I want to give a shoutout to Ryan B. I'm going to start sharing my notes with you. I have not looked at Mike's notes. Ryan B., who is a longtime brother, knows everything about fantasy football, and he gave Talu his gloves in grade two.

The famous family story. That's crazy. Because Talu was cold. I think I got this story right. I hope I got it right,. I need to get it right. I hope I got it right, but I think legend has it he gave Tolu a pair of gloves on a cold day. So he's fantasy. He likes fantasy

football. He likes fantasy football. Scott is a huge fan of fantasy. I bet you my brother Ryan is a bigger fan. Sometimes we don't see him for weeks because he's knee deep in statistics. I believe it. I believe it. I cannot believe how much time gets spent on fantasy sports in my house. I can't believe he didn't become an astronaut or something because he could be solving.

He could be a mathematician. He could be anything. The time that gets spent on fantasy sports is intense. I actually have zero interest in fantasy sports because it's not real. This is not a real team. You're not a real GM. You didn't do anything. To me, it's waste of waste of time i'd rather put towards something else you know you say that but people are so into it to the to the point where the actual players in

the real games i'll never forget seeing a press conference where um i can't remember the the players but the um his he was apologizing the athlete afterwards in the press conferences was apologizing to his fans because he knew that he let them down in their fantasy sports. And that's what's wrong with it because it should be about wins. So actual players are caring about fantasy sports. So clearly it's very popular. Right.

And if you get the W, in my opinion, you did your job. It shouldn't matter whatever fantasy sports values in terms of statistics. That shouldn't be primary over what matters, which is your team getting a W. Why do you hate fun? You're the one who doesn't like games. I was playing song pop this morning. I'm still loving song pop, okay?

You do like that. But it's just, I never know the titles of songs, so that would be complete. Mike was like, play song pop. I don't know the title, so how could I ever be a contender? It would be pointless. Now, Rose, last week I started playing Weezer's El Scorcho,

and you hated it. You just gave me the thumbs down. I didn't like it. It was immediate that you hated it immediately. I know, I know. Are you trying to make it grow on me? Well, it made me think, okay, every week I should play a tune that I dig,

and we should just get your instant feedback. I like this. Okay, this is right. I'm glad. This is cool. I'm playing Maps by the Ya Ya Yas. Oh, no wonder. Yeah, and you're listening to it now. What do you think about Maps?

Love it. You love it? Yeah. You love it? Yeah. I love it too. And it's no fun when we agree. I got to bring more controversial songs. You don't think it's fun when we agree, but then when we disagree, you try so hard to make me agree with you. Everything's fun.

Okay, so I should tell you, you know, MAPS stands for My Angus, Please Stay. M-A-P-S. And Agnes was Karen O's boyfriend at the time. Angus? Angus. That's a cool name. It's cool if you're in ACDC. Otherwise, I'm not sure it's a great name.

I have a friend with three sons. George, Angus, and I can't remember the third. And they're British. Yeah. Those are the most British names I've ever heard. Very well done. They're British, Angus, and I can't remember the third. And they're British. Yeah. Yeah, those are the most British names I've ever heard. Very well done. They're British. Well done.

Yeah, of course. They're Angus and, yeah, whatever. Absolutely. Family names. And there's probably, the cousin's name is Colin, and there's probably a Gwyn there. And, yeah, this is a British family. I have a funny story for your readers, actually, about names and choosing names. If we have a second for me to

tell it. I can't abort this topic now. What kind of a host would I be? You have to complete your thought. I'll be really, really quick. I have a friend, and she's expecting, and she's very close to delivering. She knew it was a boy. She's had the baby now. She couldn't decide on

a name. She was having a really, really hard time. I agree. Picking a boy's name is a lot harder than a girl's name, I think. So we were on the phone, and she said, you know, she read all the baby books and got on the websites and looked at, you know, the credits of movies to try to get ideas, and nothing inspired her. And I happened to be on Toronto Mike's website at the time, and all the commenters, as you know comment on um on your your post i've

heard of this phenomenon and um i said to her i happened to be scrolling on it while she was going on and on and i go you know my friend has a website and most of the commenters are are men and are boys this is true this is true and um and i said i go you know there's all sorts of names blah blah blah you're the guy's name is mississauga phil are you serious how did you seriously you're killing me so she's looking at the names and mississauga phil you actually just scared me right now because is this true i can't tell if you're being funny for one no this is true so she's going through the the names i clicked on a post and the

first name was deck deck decklin which is a cool name i love i love that name i love it too but she's like you know i like that i'm not i'm not sure and so she's going through through them all anyways later she did choose a name for her son from your commenter what's the name philip okay i just guessed that randomly maybe he's my only commenter That's really scary but she went through it The only thing is she can't decide You didn't go with Argy? I'm not sure if he commented The ones that had jumped out that I liked

I love the name Corey Corey's one of your commenters The Corey Hotline a Great Simpsons episode I love the name Corey If I have another little boy No it's 280s boy I don't think Scott loves Corey I think I'd have to fight for Corey

I don't think Corey's one of the ones he likes. But I liked Corey, Declan. What else was on there? A whole bunch. Very interesting. Phil, Phil, Phil. Now more on that in a moment. But she doesn't know if it's going to be 1L or 2.

We haven't decided on that yet. Rosie? Oh, I just remembered. Somebody said we should use hand signals. I just put up my finger for the first time. Remember? Did you see that comment? He looked like you were having a seizure.

Rosie. Rosie. He's like, he's sticking his finger out in this really awkward way. Would you name your son Gordon? You know what? I wouldn't because I don't think it matches with my last, the last name. But I like the name Gordon. I do.

Okay. So I'm in the shower the other day. The end. No. I'm in the shower the other day and I'm thinking about Gordownie. Now don't make that out to be do. Okay. So I'm in the shower the other day. The end. No, I'm in the shower the other day and I'm thinking about Gord Downie and I don't make that out to be dirty. Okay. It was just, I was just thinking of the tragically hip and Gord Downie. I'll mend your age. You're obsessed with him and want to be in the shower with him. No, I don't want to be in the shower with him.

I assure you. But I did think also of Gord, Gordon Lightfoot. And then I was thinking of Gord Martineau, right? Long time city TV guy. And then I was thinking of Gord Martineau, right? Longtime City TV guy. And then I was thinking of Gord Sinclair, but then I was thinking of Gordie Howe. And then I was thinking of Gord and Pinsent. And then I was thinking of Gord Stelic. But then, and then I started thinking about the Barenaked Ladies album, Gordon,

which was a great album, which you enjoyed and I enjoyed. Love it. Okay. What do all these Gords and Gordons and Gordies, what do they all have in common? They're performers. What else? They're artistic.

What else? Their name Gordon. That is definite. Do you want to know what they all have in common? All those names I rang off, including the album? The Rich? They're all Canadian. Okay.

So that got me. I know there's non-Canadian Gordes, but do you think that's a primarily Canadian name? You know what? I wouldn't be surprised. It's also a name I think that has kind of gone out of favor with our generation. I don't know a lot of Gordons really. No, I think Gord Stelic ruined it for everybody. But you have to admit, it feels like a Canadian name.

If there were a Canadian name, that would be it. Gord. It's actually a nice name the more you say it the more it kind of kind of grows on me gourd gourd gourd it's good how is the medieval times what you brought your uh son to medieval times to swim in a cesspool you went to medieval times i went to oh god you didn't go to you didn't swim in a cesspool no this is terrible It's okay You went to medieval times You went to Great Wolf Lodge I went to Great Wolf Lodge

Where the cesspool is There were no cesspool It wasn't as bad As I thought it would be Everyone had said to me Great Wolf Lodge It's so much fun But it's

Oh it's you know Kids in the water Where your water shoots So I was fully expecting A complete cesspool of filth And I was pleasantly surprised It was actually quite clean It was fun But what about that rash I see you've got there yeah it just looks gross

is that normal okay so you had fun at great wolf lodge and you would recommend it um yeah i think i think um to mothers who love their children it's you know you have to really commit to don't bang on the table this is hard i have to sit on my hands. You're so Italian. It's ridiculous. I use a lot of hand gestures. You have to really expect that for a night or two, it's going to be all about the kids. It's all about the kids there.

Did you say night or two? Because where was I again? At Medieval Times Theatre. Me, the kids, and my fiancé went on Thursday night, and we had a great time. I just want to say... So much fun for kids. It was fun.

Now, I should point out, these were complimentary tickets, so I don't know if I emptied my bank account, if it would have been as fun, but it was a lot of fun. Did your girls, did they throw a rose at your girls? Yeah, my daughter caught a rose, and did you say my girls? Oh, you mean Monica?

I meant your partner and daughter. I thought you were calling James a girl. I was getting upset. No, I meant your girls and daughter. I thought you were calling James a girl. No, I meant your girls like your wife, your fiancé, and Monica, and your daughter. Should we see how long we can go ignoring the great one in the room? I'm freaking out. I can't stand it anymore. I also just realized his name is the same name that my friend just decided to name her son. I thought you did that segue on purpose. No, it just occurred to me.

Did you know it's S-E-G-U-E? It's not W-A-Y, like the automobile thing? Who corrected you on that? I think it was Irvine. No, it was Rosie. Rosie in Toronto Rosie. You're killing me with your misspellings. Segue. Do I have

film music? No, I don't. This will have to do no offense phil don't think about the title i love the song all right he is the associate producer of the humble and fred radio show available online at humbleandfred.com. Welcome Phil to the program. Hello, Howard. Hello, Fred. Whoops.

Sorry, I'm used to that. You know, we are in the humble and Fred scene. Rosie and Fred have something in common, bosoms. I have to say, is this Fred's mic? Yes, it is Fred's mic. It's a really big mic. Whoa, I'm a big mic. I can barely wrap my hands around it. I don't even like where this is going. I'm just saying it's a really big mic. Whoa, I'm a big mic. I can barely wrap my hands around it.

I don't even like where this is going. I'm just saying, it's a large mic. Well, we were asking for the best from Rogers, and that's what they've given us. We're talking about the equipment, Mike. I'm not sure if we can get it back because, as you know, we've signed off from Kingston, and we probably have to give it to them because Rogers is a very specific company. Phil? Maybe they'll forget about that. What happened in Kingston?

It was just for the summer and we're done. Yeah, essentially they fulfilled their contracts with Rogers. There was a contract? Oh, yes. We were contracted to do the morning show in K-Rock in Kingston. And essentially the contract is good. It's been satisfied. And everyone's happy.

Kingston gets their local show. I don't have to wake up at 3 in the morning. You should look at the smiles on everyone's faces knowing that we have mission accomplished, essentially. We have finished something. The task has been done. And now they can move on and figure out what they need to do. And we can

move on and we can figure out what we need to do. And I guess you're doing half the amount of shows now which is probably... Well, rumor has it. ...focus more on your podcast. Wait, wait, wait. There's a rumor, Rose. Listen closely.

Wait, hold on. I don't know what to say. Hold on. Thank you. Thank you. Breaking humble and Fred news from Phil, the associate producer. Go ahead, Phil. I can't really say much about it, but we are trying to get Rogers to help us to get on air in other places or from other sorts of formats.

But what I can say is they're still open to the idea. They love us more than ever. Amazing. Seriously. Our boss at Rogers, she's the lady who pays Aaron Davis. Get some of that money from Humble and Fred. Honestly, they came up with the decision of of um finishing our stint at k-rock with such you know emotion they were pretty sad about it because they're like

you guys are great though but um just a little note though um the the day we announced our departure from kingston the big announcement was on a thursday or friday um the local paper in kingston the wig standard said on the big headlines, Kingston not particularly welcoming. Stats can. I mean, some people say we were destined to fail. We were actually fulfilling their job of trying to, you know, we were

filling in for them. Yeah, absolutely. I am, as you know, before the Humble and Fred daily podcast, I'm a big Humble and Fred fan, both personally and the content of the broadcast. In my opinion, looking back, they were set up to fail. I don't see how a show could be recorded in Etobicoke for Kingston. Like, I don't know how a Kingstonian, are they Kingstonian?

Well, Mike, if you look to your left there, that's an actual, to your left there, there's a boss called a tie line. And that's basically what we use. Our connection to Kingston was essentially that. It's essentially an outside broadcast every single morning for them at the time until about now. I don't think that has... Hear me out, Rosie. Hear me out. You shoot down things so quickly. No, I don't. I'm just saying

that I don't think that's as big a deal as you think it is. When Howard Stern broadcasts into, I don't know, Philadelphia, he might be in New York, but he's in many places. Like, it's syndicated. Humble and Fred were Kingston only. So they're giving Kingston weather, Kingston traffic, but they're doing it from Toronto.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I've always lived in Toronto, but doesn't the rest of Canada hate Toronto? And wouldn't they resent their show? So why do you want to perpetuate that? You know what matters? If you're funny, if you make me laugh I don't care where you're broadcasting from. If I turn on my radio and you crack me up, I couldn't care less if you're on Mars

or if you're next door. That's essentially what half our audience said. I bet you there were plenty of Kingston people that thought they were hilarious and you're always going to get the ones that are not happy with it. Everyone's tuning into the podcast because of that. We now have people writing in saying, I'm going to miss you in Kingston thank's tuning into the podcast because of that. We now have people writing in saying, I'm going to miss you in Kingston. Thank God you have the podcast. If you didn't,

I'd go through withdrawal. I think the podcast is completely different. We had an ulterior motive. It's not a Kingston show. That's not a Toronto show. The Howard and Fred show, did they do two different shows? It was completely different. I would say it's an extension

of the podcast. We actually use some of that material. Sometimes we would would say it's extension of the podcast. So we actually use some of that material. Sometimes we would have the same guests in both the morning show and the podcast. But at the end of the day, I think what people are missing, unfortunately, when you talk about us being kicked out of Kingston, we weren't. We were just finishing up. But the point was we were focusing on the podcast first. And the best part about all this is you can't get fired from it. A year ago, as you remember, Mike, a year ago, we had Diddly Squat.

We had Diddly Squat, and it took one of our listeners to say, hey, my name is Julie Adam. I am from Rogers, and I like your stuff. You know what? I was driving to work on Monday on the Gardner. There was a big, huge sign. By the exhibition. I saw it at medieval times. Humble and Fred.

And you know what? I looked at it, and I thought, good for them. And there's the Rogers logo. To go from, I don't even know what they were doing a year ago, and now they've got this big, huge billboard on the side of the road. It's great. It's the second time we're having that billboard. I've got to ask Fred where the heck it is, because I need to go there.

I have to see it. There's something. The exhibition goes to the exhibition. There's something about a billboard. I have to say, if I see a big there's something about a billboard I have to say if I see a big bill big big billboard Rosie do you listen

to the Humble and Fred podcast I'll tell you I've listened to it once wait wait wait they have 253 episodes you've listened to one you know what I've listened to one

just being honest but I'll tell you why the one I listened to I was on your site and I noticed that people were commenting about a podcast and they were commenting about Phil

and they were upset because some people were upset. Some people thought it was funny. The whole hello people thing that you were saying. Hello people! I was hoping you'd do it. Everyone was, on my site, some people thought it was racist and offensive.

Some people just thought it was hilarious. I just wanted to say I was curious. I wanted to see it and I hadn't yet listened to Howard and the other fellow and so I went on and I went on the podcast to listen and Phil was hilarious.

You were so funny. I was literally laughing. Truly I was laughing out loud. When you do that hurrah people. Hurrah people. When you do that, haro people. Haro people. So you're imitating your parents? Is that, or is it your family? Tell me.

It's an homage to my parents. And you know what? If you say that that quote is racist, then you are a racist, ignorant bigot. Because guess what Chinese sounds like in Singapore and Malaysia and Indonesia? You know, I know. And I guess as a white man, I'm just so uncomfortable with it. But I guess you get a pass because you're Asian. They call a Mercedes a Mercedes.

So as far as I know, I'm just speaking a different dialect of English. But Charlie Chan and all these things that sort of they sort of... Charlie Chan. But when they go on, they find a racial stereotype. Like, let's say Jews being cheap. Let's go with this okay do we agree there's a stereotype that jewish people this has been around forever are cheap shylock and the

merchant of venice okay we get it go on right so i it's it's like low-hanging fruit to make some joke about uh who do i know who's jewish howard howard glassman saving a buck because he's jewish or whatever. To me, you're perpetuating a stereotype when you go at something like that. And it's not particularly funny. And it's not particularly... It's more to do with my identity, though. I think racial humor done properly can be some of the most intelligent funny humor there is. Why would you have a British accent?

Look at Chris Rock. Look at David Chappelle. I mean, that is funny. And I actually think that if you do it intelligently, you can actually, you know, actually make a conversation happen about things so that there is actually less. Okay, but Rosie, would you say the Haro people thing? Because you're a white woman. Would you do that?

I wouldn't do it because it wouldn't be funny. But it's only funny if Phil does it. It depends on it. It's funny because he's funny. Like, he's just a funny person. But if he was a white guy funny, is it still funny? Well, no, because it wouldn't be, he wouldn't sound funny. You have to be funny to be funny.

He has to look Asian for this to be funny. I don't think so. I have no idea. I didn't know Phil was Asian when I listened to the podcast. When I was listening to the podcast, it wasn't like, okay, and now here's our Asian intern, Phil. All right. I had no idea. I just, it was, it was a funny person and a funny person makes me laugh.

And so I was, and then I had my first podcast crush. Well, you guys have spoken with British accents or Australian accents and all that, right? Well, I'm basically speaking Singaporean English. You have to think about my identity here because my family, they're French, colonial, Vietnamese, Chinese, Singaporean. Right. So I have ants in Singapore. I have ants in Singapore in a place called, ironically, Ang Mo Kio, which is the District of White People,

if you wrote it in Chinese or in English. So, is essentially exactly what my father or my mother would have said as I come in. You know, it's funny, even hearing you, I find it so uncomfortable to even, I come in. Hey, what are y'all? You know, that's sort of talking. You know, it's funny, even hearing you, I find it so uncomfortable to even, I hate it. I find it hilarious. I don't know.

But it's the equivalent of British English. If someone came up to you and said, Hello, cheerio. Like, what's the difference between that and Hera, right? It feels like one group is oppressed and one is not. And then to pick on the failures of the one seems to be inappropriate. Well, listen, there are good things when it comes to cross-cultural pollination.

Because my birthday was yesterday and I share a birthday. Happy birthday. Oh, thank you. With the first president of Taiwan. Or China, as you would call it, because it's Democratic China and such. And guess where he took his political values from? Tell us. Abraham Lincoln. A government for the people, from? Tell us. Abraham Lincoln.

A government for the people, from the people, of the people. So as far as I know, people need to think less about how offensive it is and think more about why I'm even saying it in the first place. It's because I have such a wacky family. Could you get away with that on terrestrial radio? We did. It goes through Kingston? No, honestly, we did do that in Kingston.

Now we know why they didn even a contest no no no this is summer it's not oh yes it's all my fault all of a sudden but my point no i didn't say that no just kidding you see it's basically exploiting our differences and then showing them you know in a certain way because if you heard me like you're hearing me right now, I'm not speaking in a Chinese accent, am I? That's my point, because it's fake. You're faking a Chinese accent because you have better English than I do. I am an ESL student. Listen to this. I was an ESL student who was born here because I learned Chinese first. But my first English was with an Indian accent because the teacher just happened to be Indo-Canadian.

He had an Indian accent. And the Trojan War was the book I had to read. It's not about, I mean, if you're going to equate accents to racism, then God help us. Because there's going to be a lot of people with different noises and different sounds. You know how it used to be okay to do the South Asian convenience store guy, the Apu kind of thing. It used to be okay. You think the Simpsons is hilarious and the Simpsons is...

Yeah, but the character's Indian. Like, I wouldn't... You're thinking of the actor, right? But there's so much of that in The Simpsons that you're saying is politically correct. I'm telling you. Now, I want to move on from this because it gets pretty boring,

but I am not comfortable with somebody putting on the accent of like a visible minority for jokes. It's I'm not saying I'm not comparing it. It's not Amos and Andy, but it's in the same family. And I'd rather not see Dave Chappelle and he wouldn't laugh at Dave Chappelle comedy show. You know, no, I never said that. I know I never let me finish the sentence. No, I don't because

the horror people... Am I doing that okay? Am I doing that okay? See, if I started a character like that, I just don't think I should. I shouldn't do that. I don't think it's cute. I don't think I should. But you mentioned that you've

mastered this English language, ESL. It took me five years to deal with it, to actually correct myself into this accent. So as far as I know, it's just a reflection of my past. So as I came in, that's the funny thing. Back in Brampton, because I grew up in Brampton, my school was quite literally two minutes drive from the original Edge Studios on Kennedy Street. Not the older one, but the one in the plaza. Yeah.

But quite literally, I would have a Trinidadian neighbor, and then I'd have an Indo-Canadian neighbor, and I'd have so many different nationalities in one little street. Now I live in Woodbridge, and everyone's obviously not like that, but it's just to reflect everything in between. It's just to show that I've got a different past in comparison. And this ethic, one of the things I found most interesting about you, I think, by the way, I was sitting on that couch the day you came in. I remember, yeah.

I was here a lot in the early days of the Humble and Fred before things got busy. I think what offended Fred more was because I was left wing. It was just sitting there going, you know, Philip, you know, Harold. Rob Ford's pretty okay, Phil. In 10 years, he'll be a liberal, and then in 20 years, he'll be a conservative. So, hey. Tell me, during the Kingston experience, you had to be, what time did you have to be at this studio? Well, I was usually here 4.55 because I was essentially the office manager.

I had to make the coffee. I had to ensure that everything was ready. Where's our coffee, Phil? Phil's our guest today. It's my week off. What are you talking about, eh? Okay, so that's 4.55. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you tell me there's a walk you enjoy doing?

A long, long time ago. Now, this was before, well, a long, long time in radio because back in, I think it was before August, I actually had to walk and then take transit here in the middle of the night. So I'd be up at 11 p.m. and then I'd be out the door by 1.30 a.m. And then I'd be on Highway 7 and Woodbridge Walk all the way to the Toronto border. So by the time I was in the northern heights of Etobicoke, it was 3 o'clock, seven kilometers later, by the way. So I took a later bus from there down to Lakeshore, and then I'd have to walk from Lakeshore and Kipling here.

Amazing. Islington. What time does your alarm go off for that again? 11.30. Sweet. So just so we don't miss this point, your alarm to wake up is 11.30 p.m. Yes, 11.30 p.m. And what time does Philly go to sleep or go to bed in order to be operational at 11.30 p.m. Yes, 1130 p.m. And what time does Philly go to sleep or go to bed in order to be operational at 1130 p.m.?

You can tell why I'm single. I'm at like 5, 6 o'clock at night. Well, even now, even when I had to drive here, I still had to go to sleep a little early, like 8 o'clock or something, because I'd still have to be awake at 4, and then I'd still have to get here by 4.55, and then I'd have to deal with all that. And I'd still have to get here by 4.55. And then I'd have to deal with all that. So you've been, for the, to be on the Kingston morning show, you essentially had to call it a night at like 5.30 p.m. I had to pretend that I was going to drive to Kingston.

Rose, isn't that amazing? Well, it's not unusual. Well, it's not like they're paying him six figures to do this. He's doing this to learn. People don't go into TV and radio because they want to be rich. Rose, look at me. You would never be going to bed at 5.30. Well, you're a unique

creature, but people do it because they have a passion for broadcasting. So that's awesome. Well, I mean, I still walk though, but recreationally. So I would take 10 kilometers out of my day, walk all the way to Vaughan Mills and then back and I'd be listening to podcasts. That's the irony

of it. Oh yeah, we didn't have one back then And I'd be listening to podcasts. That's the irony of it. Did you? Oh, yeah. We didn't have one back then. Did you listen to this podcast, Phil? Yes, I heard. I tuned into the first episode. Oh, and not the next 12. Well, come on, Mike. Even Rosie and Ty.

She's done one of yours and you've done one of hers. My darling, what can I do when you have to, oh, when you had those sorts of work days and you just wanted to get away from everything. So my favorite station right now is out of Kitchener, Chime FM. What music do they play on Chime FM? Corny elevator dentist music that I used to. I grew up doing that, listening to Aaron Davis and Don Daner.

Is it like Paul Anka and that kind of thing? Oh, lordy. Well, they're a little more modern than that. So it's Michael Bublé. Bubble, bubble. Bubble. Well, you definitely have a knack for it because So it's Michael Bublé. Bubble. Michael Bubble. Well, you definitely have a knack for it. Because like I said, I was curious about all the controversy.

And I listened to the podcast and I was laughing out loud. So you definitely have a knack for it. You liked it so much you never came back for a second episode. It was like 250 something episodes. You know, when I write about this damn podcast, I only write about two podcasts on my site. I write about my podcast because damn it, it's my website. I'll do that. And I write about the Humble and Fred show because I gave birth to this with the boys.

You've got the stake in this. I love this show. And I have a stake in it. And I feel like my blood, sweat and tears are all over that XML file. I mean, our interns have to thank you, Mike, because, you know, this is the best part. Because Fred last week, he got to see my graduation from Humber College in the radio program.

Congratulations. How many students? Six, I believe it was six students that day graduated. And it's indirectly thanks to you, Mike, because the podcast was started in the first place. And they had to find some... Well, I'm taking full credit for their graduation. Take it because it's...

You know what it's changing a lot this is the weird part humble and fred has actually changed my school people look at me and i mean when we signed the rogers deal for example people were quite jealous of that because they're like hold on a podcast is getting that sort of attention that credibility that goes with rogers of course that's the best part about this because it's the fact that it's not just some random podcast in the middle of nowhere. We're not in, you know, Mike, your basement or something. It's something that

makes sense. It's real. There's a sense of risk to it too, right? Well, I was going to say, when I write about your podcast and my podcast, everybody gets mad. Like, oh, this is too many advertisements for podcasts. And you don't think anything else is an advertisement. I know. And I'm like, advertisements, don't you don't think anything else is an advertisement. No, I know.

And I'm like, advertisements, don't you get paid for advertisements? Oh, boy. Oh, Phil, do you get paid to wake up at 11.30 p.m. and come in and help for hours and hours on two different programs? Well, I get paid with love. They treat me like a son. And in Chinese families, sons don't get paid. Is that legal tender? Does love you speak of?

It will pay off down the road. Well, it's good experience. I mean, I've been speaking to my program coordinator. She just called me this morning. But I might be a teacher starting next semester. I might be teaching some web media type workshops. Oh, cool. At Humber?

Oh, yeah, Humber College. Nice. Probably for radio students. Do you need a professor? I could be a professor. I've got some great hair. And you know what? It's a perfect example. To be a professor, you need a professor? I could be a professor. I've got some gray hair. And you know what? It's a perfect example.

You know, to be a professor, you need to have experience. You're not going to have much credibility teaching radio or broadcasting to students if you haven't actually worked on a broadcast. So you have that experience now. I guess that's the reason why I was asked in the first place. I mean, it was a kept secret that I actually knew anything about web media. But there you go. I mean, that's the best part about all this knew anything about web media. But there you go. I mean, that's the best part about all this.

It's the fact that so many things have blossomed from it. And I don't even just mean me. I mean, you know, Howard and Fred got to meet a lot of my classmates. And they got to figure out, you know, how the radio industry works. And now someone's interning at Chorus thanks to these two. It's the fact that she gained that experience. This is Victoria. No, the other one, Kat. Yes, so she's now interning. Interorus thanks to these two, is the fact that she gained that experience. So she's interning at Cat. Yes, so she's now interning at AM640.

Well, Victoria's left the radio industry completely. She wants to try something else because, I don't know, she's a bit of a perfectionist in a way, which is a good thing for other than radio. All of us listeners know you're in love with Victoria, okay? It was very clear. I was just on a date today with someone else. Phil's dating someone else.

He was telling me about it before the show. Maybe we can talk about that in episode 15. I gotta keep my lips sealed for this one. It's off the record. She was conscious for the whole date. This wasn't something, you didn't slip anything in someone's drink or anything like that. You're kidding at one in the afternoon in chinatown why would you

do that to an american i heard about the the warm what is it the cold tea anyway anyway outside how how could that be the case i just want to wrap, wrap up really with one serious note here in that I saw the comments come in about your laughter. You were, you had a big booming laugh all over the place. And then I know you saw the comments cause you replied back and I saw that I watched the exchange on my site, Toronto,

Mike.com. And then I noticed listening, the laughter was restrained. And you haven't been the same laughy Phil since those comments. So would you like to respond to that? I think that you may have changed your delivery based on the comments. Well, as a member of the media industry, you do have to adapt to your audience. And as far as I know, I just think way too much stuff is funny.

So I do still laugh, sometimes mentally, sometimes out loud. But at the end of the day, if it really bothers a listener, you really have to laugh. So you're consciously, though, you're consciously suppressing what would be your natural big laugh. Essentially. I noticed it. It was clear. I noticed it. I can sympathize with that because I laugh a lot, too, and I giggle a lot.

And the first few podcasts I listened back to, that means you have to listen to yourself. And I felt like, oh, it's too giggly. Too much giggly. Oh, I guess I'm going to stop talking now. No, Rose, I have a fader. Watch this. You can talk over it.

Phil, it was a delight. Would you mind sticking around for episode 15? Yes, Howard, absolutely. And Rosie, you were wonderful once again. I hope I didn't mess up too much audio. I think you did great. Thanks, everybody, for listening. See you soon.

Thanks, guys. Thank you.