Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #171

Episode Date: May 3, 2016

Mike chats with Elvis about this and that as Prince brings Elvis to tears....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to episode 171 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a local independent brewery producing fresh craft beer. I'm Mike from TorontoMic.com and joining me this week is Tupelo, Mississippi's own Elvis. What's up, Rob J, motherfucker? You just said hi to the one and only fan of Your Blog Sucks. Yeah, even our moms think it sucks. But that was the idea, wasn't it? Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Your blog does suck, though. Your Blog Sucks, though. Your blog sucks. The podcast did not suck. In fact, it came to me in this, like, I was in the shower. I had this vision, and then I saw it, and I saw it, like, getting, like, licensed or picked up for, like, a real, like, purpose that's, like, paid money. Like, I could see the future of Your Blog Sucks, and I was excited to do it, and we did 10 episodes.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And then you canceled it. I't you canceled because i realized my dream was not going to come true and i gave up on my dream well i think a big part of it was that you you were like i don't have time for one podcast let alone two and honestly what is this now may okay this is the first time you managed to make it to the toronto mic studios in 2016 i know it's crazy i was thinking about that on the drive over. You did the Christmas episode. Yeah, I did the Christmas episode. And it wasn't Orthodox Christmas or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It was the other one. And then there was, we tried to, the whole family was going to come to the Toronto Mike Studios. That's true. And I can't remember why that didn't happen. Oh. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:04 A medical emergency. I canceled it because monica had surgery oh that's right that's right you did cancel it that's right there was okay well i can tell it's not so uh post-birth um things were happening that weren't normal and then she went to the doctor they're like oh shit there's still placenta in there right we got to get that out yeah she's like get it out man and they're like that's it's called the d and dnc very common surgery for women i don't think guys get a lot of dnc i've never had one but it's like that's surgery like we now you're in the hospital for like whatever and she was overnight there so yeah you can't record a podcast like you know yeah and we were going to
Starting point is 00:02:44 pull double duty that day because my pa was going you know? Yeah. And we were going to pull double duty that day because my pa was going in for surgery as well. And we were going to come and see him. We could have got a twofer. And then we just bailed completely and stayed at home. But you did. I know you bought something to bring that day. I did.
Starting point is 00:02:58 But you bought something time sensitive. I did. I know it happened. I did. It's like one of those, like this is zero to three month things. Yes. So it's like, you can't give it to me I did. It's like one of those, this is zero to three month things. Yes. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:05 you can't give it to me now because now she's already four months. And Mrs. Elvis was, she's like, you got to mail this because it's time sensitive. And of course, it sat in my bag and my desk
Starting point is 00:03:14 for probably a week and a half. Come here. Dude, it's so hard to drive out here and then go to work. And like, it really is just really difficult. Well,
Starting point is 00:03:24 that's why your blog sucks was canceled. So today works because I'm studying for an exam and I'm working from home. So I'm just going to drive home right after this. I'm going to drive back to Oshawa. For old time's sake and in case anybody wants to dive into the archives and listen to the 10 glorious episodes of your blog sucks. Do you remember this? Oh, great song.
Starting point is 00:03:46 My best friend's coming up. And now, it's time for your blog sucks. You know what? You don't come up with very many good ideas, but that intro song is a great idea. That was great. Thank you. A touch of brilliance.
Starting point is 00:04:07 No, yeah. It's all me. It's a really good intro song. Yeah, I love that song. They used it for Rescue Me, by the way. Whatever that is. It's a great song. It's a popular show.
Starting point is 00:04:18 All right. It's a popular show. Sure. You never heard of Rescue Me? No. Is it on network television? It was on, I think that's FX. I think.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Is that network television? No. No, it's not. But it's, you remember There's No Cure for Cancer? Nope. Okay. Anyway. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I've never even heard of Rescue. I'm Googling it right now. It's very, okay, when I say very popular, I don't mean like Walking Dead popular, but it was up there in terms of like the zeitgeist. Well, there's nothing that is more popular than Walking Dead. Right. So it's not like, but it is like, it's, I would say it's a popular show. By the way, I moved to a new tab in my soundboard where I kept the year.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Dennis Leary's in it. Yeah. He stars in it. Oh, okay. See now. So yeah, No Cure for Cancer was where I was going there because that's his big album, right? No Cure for Cancer.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That's right. That's right. That's where Asshole's on. Right. Which I still know most of the words to. Yeah, I could sing along if you played it. No, that would require like super advanced. Dennis is funny because his name is really Denis.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, like a French guy. Yeah. So I just, this, I use this thing called soundboard for all my musical elements audio elements and I have a tab called your blog sucks which I haven't touched
Starting point is 00:05:30 in years because we haven't recorded in years and for some reason this song is on that tab so maybe I played I was gonna play kiss for you
Starting point is 00:05:39 or maybe I played kiss for you probably you're probably like cause I if I mention that I remotely like something, you then immediately translate that into I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So for a while there, you were telling everyone that Kiss was my favorite band. Is Kiss your favorite band? As well as ACDC, because I happen to like some of their songs. That's great. What do you think about Brian Johnson, man? And Axl Rose? How do you feel about that? Tell me, his voice gave out or something?
Starting point is 00:06:08 No, no, no, it's his hearing. I mean, it depends on who you talk to and what rumors you agree with. But the statement that he put out and the band put out said that the doctors told him that his hearing was to the point where if he did any more stadium shows or arena shows, he would go deaf. And so he would still be able to record in the studio, but not tour. And obviously bands make money touring and ACDC, as much as I love them, aren't exactly producing hits like they used to. No more Thunderstruck. So, yeah, ACDC hired Axl Rose to finish out the rest of their u.s dates which is about 10 i think and uh do their european tour um this summer so axl rose now fronts guns and roses
Starting point is 00:06:56 ironically that just reunited yeah and yeah acdc yeah i don't have a lot of thoughts on it like i would acdc is not my jam or whatever, but I don't know. Like, are ACDC fans pissed? I think they're sad in the sense that, well, at least I am. I mean, Brian Johnson was the perfect replacement for Bon Scott. They sound similar.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And this is Bon Scott, right? It depends on what... It sounds like it's the version, yeah. Let's see. There's multiple versions? Well, Brian Johnson sings this song, too. Oh, yeah, in concert. There's multiple versions? Well, Brian Johnson sings this song too. Oh yeah, in concert. There's also recordings of it too.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Obviously. But if this is the original recording... Are you going to hit the post? Do you want to try it? Fuck, I can't do that. I need the countdown. I can't. Did they have that at Western when you were doing...
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's Bonscott. I did not hit the boat. They did not. You'd have to... Old school, you'd have to know the song. You'd have to practice it. WNBC. Fucking great.
Starting point is 00:07:59 All right. So great. Sorry, my unplanned ACDC tangent. Okay. Do you think Roham is listening to this one? You know, I haven't heard from him in a while. Neither have I. He was our big fan from India.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He is. He's our fan from India. So we have Rohan and Rob J. He's the most Canadian Indian. Listen to your blog sucks. Right? He's very Canadian. He's like deep Canadian.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He's probably moved on to the Taggart and Torrance podcast with all that Canadianity and all that. That's right. That's right. He's probably the only other person other than you that think Nickelback has a good album. Seriously, you reach the times. You read my tweets, that's good.
Starting point is 00:08:31 The State, which had old enough, and it had a few big radio singles, and I felt it was a solid rock album. I enjoyed that album. You would. At the time, Nickelback wasn't so horrible to say you liked Nickelback. And then they released...
Starting point is 00:08:49 Pretty sure it's always been that way. At least that's the way I felt. Okay. Well, I was listening to a lot of 102.1 at the time. And they were playing a lot of Nickelback. And I saw Nickelback on the small stage at Edgefest. I can't remember. 2000 or something.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't know. Early 2000s, whatever. Maybe 2001. I don't know or something. I don't know, early 2000s, whatever. Maybe 2001. I don't know, 2000. I don't know. But they were, it was not, yeah, I remember enjoying their performance, and I remember enjoying that album. You know what this is a result of is CanCon.
Starting point is 00:09:17 The only reason why they were played ever is CanCon. But they're mega, mega popular outside of Canada. CanCon, that's it. No, man, some bands I'd agree with you, but not with Nickelback. CanCon. That's it. No, man. Some bands I'd agree with you, but not with Nickelback. Absolutely. Because they were like Creed, right? And Creed got played to hell and gone up here, and they're American.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Speaking of Creed, and speaking of ACDC and their lead singer being Axl Rose, I read yesterday that the new lead singer of Stone Temple Pilots might be Scott Stapp. Crazy. Yeah, Creed. And they love God, which is interesting because STP is not necessarily known as a Christian rock band. But Creed is, they love God. Will you admit at all that some Creed songs are a guilty pleasure? Totally. Absolutely, 100%.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Because I'll sing along at the top of my lungs. I used to play Creed when I DJed. Can you take me higher? Totally. Absolutely. 100%. Because I'll sing along at the top of my lungs. I used to play Creed when I DJ'd. Can you take me higher? Totally. Some great tunes for hit radio. For sure. But not Nickelback. No, I
Starting point is 00:10:17 don't get the Nickelback at all. There's a few tunes on the state that are just heavy good rock tunes. My unpopular opinion, I won't, you know, what am I going to say? Well, this comes from a guy who says he loves bugs. Oh, I love every single, every fucking one of them. What a ridiculous thing. At first I did.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You grew to love mosquito-like bugs. I believe the word I used was not love. You said love. No, embrace. Love. I read the entry after you said it. The word love is not there. I never said I love bugs. I said love. No. Embrace. Love. I read the entry after you said it. The word love is not there. I never said I love dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I said I've learned to embrace. The subject is love because I'm copying the How to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb. Ridiculous. Not ridiculous. Every single one of these
Starting point is 00:10:56 fucking midges have become my friends. What did you say about midgets? All right. Let's get this going. Right. So since you recorded in December 2015, I had a child.
Starting point is 00:11:07 That's right. That's how much has happened since then. And that's about it that's happened. Can we say, though, that you eventually did get the gift and that there were multiple photos posted on social media of said baby in said gift? There was clothes, but there was also like a doll thing. Was there? I don't even know what it was. So the photos were of the doll thing.
Starting point is 00:11:28 There was like a little stuffed animal thing, and I took a photo of her with that for Mrs. Elvis to see that. Mrs. Elvis was pleased. This is how much integrity I have, which by saying I have integrity probably indicates that I don't have as much as I'm suggesting I do. Which, by saying I have integrity, probably indicates that I don't have as much as I'm suggesting I do. But it sat on my desk at work for probably a good week. And I could have brought it to reception and have reception send the package. But I said, nope. I'm going to the post office and paying for it myself.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I'm not sure. That's integrity. But it's a little stupid. You could have saved a buck. No, it's not stupid. It's not the company's job to send you a stupid gift. They don't know what's in there. They don't know who I am. That's not right, man. No, it's not stupid. It's not the company's job to send you a stupid gift. They don't know what's in there. That's not right, man. It's not right.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Well, they're lucky to have you. I'll say that. So, also, the Raptors have won their very first ever Best of Seven series. Are you following that series? I absolutely am. I'm also following your... Are you okay? Because you've jumped off the bandwagon pretty hard after game six and climbed back on in game seven.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Are you all right? No, okay. Is your ankle okay? Dude. There was a lot of, there was pretty, you did a. That's not a bandwagon. Is that what a bandwagon, that's a thinking that. You did a skydive right off that fucking wagon.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Is that what a bandwagon, did the flag leave the window? Did you see the, did you see the window? I did see the flag. That's a little embarrassing. Did the flag leave the window? Did you see the... I did see the flag. That's a little embarrassing. Did the flag leave the window? I don't know. The answer's no. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Did I stop watching? Did I tear up my jersey? That's not bandwagon jumping, man. You virtually teared it up on Twitter. You're on the team when you're losing. Like the Leafs lately. I'm still a Leafs fan who... But that doesn't mean I have to watch a terrible Leafs team deliver garbage.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Major jump after Game 6. Major jump. No, no. Kyle Lowry and De'Ron. I believe you suggested they should tear apart this fucking team. I said. You need to tear it down. You know what, though?
Starting point is 00:13:18 I could make an argument. I'm not going to be like, and I'm going to, Marty York. I'm going to get into Marty York in a minute. But I could make an argument that it's better for us that they had lost that game seven because then they would have done the things necessary to create a proper playoff team. I say that because we have two all-stars on this team. They're regular season all-stars. And I'm not even crapping on Lowry because he does a lot of things beyond shooting the ball
Starting point is 00:13:40 that are important to this team. I love that guy's heart too. But DeRozan and Lowry shot, I can't remember the numbers now, but something like 31% each for a seven game series. All I'm arguing is that your core, your two all-stars, shoot 31% from the field
Starting point is 00:13:54 in a seven game series. I don't think you're going to win a lot of championships. I'm pretty sure Steph Curry's going to shoot 70% from the field or some shit like that. I'm just saying, they shot horribly for seven games.
Starting point is 00:14:06 That's all. Yeah, that's different than saying because of that, you should tear down the team. Yeah, I feel like the core is, it's something wrong with the core in the playoffs from what I've witnessed over the past three seasons. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. We lost in the best of seven, then we got swept,
Starting point is 00:14:19 and then we came within a whisker, a pubic hair of losing in the best of seven. And all I'm saying is, we celebrate the first round win. How are we going to do against the Heat? There's absolutely nothing wrong with the core. The problem with Toronto's sports teams minus one is all of them, minus one of the professional teams have C-rate coaches.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Horrible, horrible coaches. Part of my list was fire the coach. Which is, that's different than saying you got to start all over again. I feel like if your core is Lowry and DeRozan, you're not leaving the Eastern Conference. You're never going to a championship. This is just, come on. Do you think a team with the core being DeRozan and Lowry,
Starting point is 00:15:01 as we've seen in the playoffs, could possibly ever, I don't know if they're going to advance through the second round. Maybe we beat the Heat. I don't know. But there's no chance against the Cavs in round three. This is not a team that can win a championship. This is a team that does well in the regular season. And if we're lucky, we leak out a best-of-seven. I don't think it's that cut and dry.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I think the team can go far. Is any team going to beat the Cavs in the East? No. But with the proper personnel behind the bench, they have the, I guess, in front of the bench in basketball. And you don't think we need to get one more guy? Sure, absolutely. Every team, though, needs one more guy. Even the Warriors need one more guy.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You always need one more guy. Always. Certainly, the Raptors need one more guy more than the Warriors need one more guy. You always need one more guy. Always. Certainly the Raptors need one more guy more than the Warriors need one more guy. However, I think if you have a legitimate A-list coach in the Raptors organization, this team goes further than they will this year. And they also now have finally won a series, which is something that they had never done before, that this core had never done before, that this core has never done.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And I think that that means a lot. They may not win it this year, but I think if they can get a better coach and another piece, which they're always trying to do, then things can be a lot different. And you never know. I mean, I think it went all the way to the final two. First of all, you never know.
Starting point is 00:16:24 You never know. We could beat the Heat. We beat them three out of four you never know. You never know. We could beat the Heat. We beat them three out of four games in the regular season. I think they could beat the Heat. But we're really good. The Raptors are an exciting
Starting point is 00:16:31 regular season team. I tuned in for a lot of games this season. This is an exciting team. We win a lot. We're exciting on the floor. Yeah, they set a record for...
Starting point is 00:16:39 It's uncomfortable other than a game or two. It's uncomfortable to watch this team in the playoffs. If that fourth quarter is 13 minutes, I say we're not playing the Heat anymore. Who's worse?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Who's worse? Let me hear this. Gibbons or Casey? I've never liked Gibbons. Even last year when we won the ALDS, I didn't like Gibbons. The media likes him because he's friendly and he's like, hey. And he's Gibby.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah, he's Gibby. That's it. He's Gibby. But I feel like in baseball, you could get away. I think I could manage the team. You can. You can. But in basketball, you're right. The in-game adjustments from Casey are like, he should go on Twitter. That's what he should do. He should go on Twitter, follow certain
Starting point is 00:17:19 smart, not me, but smart basketball people. Follow Eric's, what's his name? Corrine. He's like a free agent now, I think, because he used to work for the Post. But follow like Eric Corrine or whoever and just do what they think you should do.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And I'm not suggesting to get like a big loud mouth, like a Charles Barkley or something like that. Like I'm sure Charles Barkley would jump at the chance to coach a team. But that would, it would, like that, just get a quality coach, you know? But don't you think winning that first round
Starting point is 00:17:46 saves Dwayne Casey's job? Like the fact that we won that game, now he's safe? Unfortunately, yeah. So I would, so my argument, my other unpopular argument
Starting point is 00:17:55 is it might be better to lose this game seven so they do the things we need to do so we can actually. I don't know if they. It's a terrible playoff team. I don't know if they had lost,
Starting point is 00:18:04 if they had lost, you know what, you're right in the sense that I think if they... It's a terrible playoff team. I don't know if they had lost... If they had lost... You know what? You're right in the sense that I think if they lost Game 7, Casey would be out. But I'm not sure it would be... You know, the Leafs had... The worst thing that happened to the Leafs
Starting point is 00:18:15 was getting to Game 7 with the Bruins. Win or lose, that was horrible for the franchise. Because it was a mirage. Because they started to believe. Which is totally just brutal. I think this team actually is really good, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's very different from the Leafs, where the Leafs were not good. In the NBA, and I'm not pretending I'm a basketball. I watch and I enjoy, and I know a little, just enough to be dangerous maybe. But regular season basketball and playoff basketball are two different animals. Similar of hockey, actually. And that's why Bruce Boudreaux is out the door. I felt like Casey was going to get the Boudreaux treatment if we had lost that Game 7, which is like, that was a good regular season, but we got a win in the playoffs to have success.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I just feel, and we'll see, I can't wait to watch tomorrow night against the Heat. I got a note on this quick, actually. A real big, Cheryl, frequent commenter at TorontoMike.com. I haven't heard from her lately. She's regular still, and she was cheering for Indiana very badly. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:19:17 When Indiana lost to the Raptors, she posted that she was now going to cheer on the Heat and the Cavs, so she's hedged her bets here. She's now cheer on the Heat and the Cavs. So she's hedged her bets here. She's now going for the Heat and the Cavs. So she always goes for whoever. How is that possible?
Starting point is 00:19:31 She's just a super big LeBron James fan? You think my ankles could because I was sour on this team after game six. And by the way, I think everyone was this team after game six. How much belief did you have that the Raptors were going to win that Game 7? I don't think we knew they would lose, but we sure didn't know they would win. We had no idea which Raptors. 70% that they would win. Okay, I had thought.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But I mean, I'm saying this after the fact. Somebody asked me straight up, what's your prediction for tonight? And then I stopped for a second and thought, because I always have a prediction. And then I realized I could easily see us winning by 20. And I could easily see us losing by 20. But it was like I couldn't. Nothing was more than the other. That was the way I thought of it as well. But I figured it was going to be more
Starting point is 00:20:14 so that they were going to win by 20. I was pretty confident. I didn't even actually really watch a lot of the game. By the way, I think somebody always fights me. I think it's a lady on Twitter named CFL Lady who always tells me. This think it's a lady on Twitter named CFL Lady who always tells me. Oh, this woman. All I know is at least with the,
Starting point is 00:20:29 whatever that Numeris... Isn't it like 300 million people watch the Argos? Is that what it is? And none of them are in Toronto, which is really hard to do actually in Canada. So I know at least according to the Numeris stuff, that game seven of the first round had 1.5 million. And I know that doesn't, like that's nothingis stuff, that Game 7 of the first round had 1.5 million. And I know that doesn't... Like, that's nothing like the Game 5
Starting point is 00:20:48 against Texas with the bat flip. That was something way higher, maybe three times higher. I can't remember now. But 1.5 million for a basketball game in the first round, I think that's pretty fucking good for a team that doesn't draw well, according to the Numeris PPM stuff in the regular season. The Raptors don't get big numbers, which is the whole basis of her argument.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I don't think it is a good number, but in the greater context. I guess relative to like. You'd figure it would be a lot bigger than that. I mean, it's the only team right now that are playing games that mean anything in the city. I think the problem with Raptor fans is a big bulk of them aren't measured by this thing. Because not only do they not have devices, of course, none of us have fucking devices. But I think the way they watch is... I don't think the encoding gets...
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's just a different... I think it's different. It's streaming and it's collectives and... I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It just seems like a lot of people are on this bus. I don't know if we do it here.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't know. It just seems like a lot of people are on this bus. I don't know if we do it here, but I heard in the States that they now measure TiVo'd shows as viewed if you watch the TiVo or the PVR'd version within 24 hours. They got two. I saw those yesterday. Good.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. They said there's a measurement for 24 hours, and then there's another one for seven days. Right. Because they were talking about that Larry Wilmore who took over for... Jon Stewart. No, he took no he took over no he took over for colbert yes right and they're saying like trevor noah took over and they're showing the numbers and they're basically talking like like like he's lost like half yeah he's bled half the audience it's brutal
Starting point is 00:22:17 but they also say that part of that is because trevor noah isn't pulling in right of course anywhere near the same numbers that john was so his lead-in isn't as good you're right okay we're all he wasn't very good in in my estimation, by the way, at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. I haven't seen it, except I just read an article briefly. I watched it. CNN thing that just said he was awful. I watched both.
Starting point is 00:22:34 He wasn't awful, but he certainly was just weird. He also said the N-word, which is weird, I think. But Barack Obama was also good. At least he's a black guy. It doesn't matter my it doesn't matter it doesn't matter no it does not it does not at all
Starting point is 00:22:48 so you're saying there's no difference between a black guy dropping the n-word and a white guy no absolutely not it's a horrible word that shouldn't be said
Starting point is 00:22:53 this is a bigger argument it is a horrible word that shouldn't be said you should not propagate it but we're not white guys it doesn't matter we are white guys how do we
Starting point is 00:23:01 I don't know if we can make the call that a black person is not allowed to use the word I'm not saying you're not allowed. I'm saying my opinion is that you shouldn't say it. No one should say it.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It is a horrible word that should be not used. Just avoid the genre of rap, okay? I did watch all of Barack Obama's speech as well, and in my estimation, he is eight for eight on those jokes. Yeah, he's funny. He's got good timing, good delivery. He does, he does. And he's... Good writers.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah, his timing is really good, though. He's got... And I like how he'll say a joke and wait for the laugh, and then he'll laugh himself. It's good. I like it. I like it. I saw a little bit on YouTube, like, the mic drop at the end. It's 30 minutes. It's a good time. When he goes at the cruise about... He called a basketball rim.
Starting point is 00:23:44 He called it a basketball..., he called a basketball ring. Basketball ring. And I'm the foreigner. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. He's a funny guy. All right. So hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I got to deliver something to you. Oh, Rob J. liked my tweet this morning saying that I pressed snooze five times when I was on my way. I got a little Rob J. story. This is, by the way, not Rob Johnson, who's been on this show from Chorus, but this is a different Rob J. Do we give out his Twitter handle so we can get some more followers? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:12 At VineFan99. Okay, then I have my little Rob J story coming up. That beer in front of you, this is another you haven't been here since December, so you've never been here during the Great Lakes Bre brewery era yes I received one of these I was still talking to them
Starting point is 00:24:29 I had meetings with them but we hadn't signed the deal earlier you were surprised to find out there was actually a contract there was literally an agreement six month deal it's fucking great shit man that's going home with you it's going to Oshawa
Starting point is 00:24:44 I love Great Lakes I really do and hey Great Lakes Six-month deal. It's fucking great shit, man. That's going home with you. It's going to Oshawa. I love Great Lakes. I really do. And hey, Great Lakes, in my real life, contact me because I might have an opportunity for you to help quench the thirst of hundreds of people. Are they in southern? No, no, no. In Toronto. The core. In Toronto.
Starting point is 00:25:03 The core. Yep. All right. I can hook you up with. In Toronto. The core. Yep. All right. I can hook you up with my guy there. Let's do that. Speaking of hooking up, by the way, Ron McLean. Fucking great shit. Actually, let me go down the list.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Let's do this. Let's do this. There's so much to fucking get to. We haven't started yet. Okay. You know, I don't swear with regular guests, I realize. Like when I have like, I don't know. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Ron McLean or whatever. I don't even, the swear words never happen. You don't call him your N-word? No. Never call him my N-word. I'm a white guy. I can't use that word. But if I had a guest of color on this show...
Starting point is 00:25:32 Which you never do because you're racist. One guy. Matt Galloway. One guy. One guy. Is he the guy who rode his bike recently with a camera? On Bloor Street? Yeah, on Bloor Street. Yeah, on Bloor.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Amber Giro. You're right. Sorry, I stay corrected. Does Mocha count? He's South Asian. That's not black. It's not black, but he's a minority. I've had lots, because even my last guest, even Fresh Phil, is Filipino. Add the sock.
Starting point is 00:26:06 He's a minority. Did you know he's Jewish? Why did you lower your voice? Did you know he's Jewish? Because it's not a race. No, no, he's a sock is what I was going for. I know. I'm just trying to think if I feel like I need...
Starting point is 00:26:19 Is Ed the Sock Jewish or the guy who carries a round? The guy whose hand is up his ass is Jewish. All right. Let's get serious for a moment. The sock Jewish or the guy who carries a round Jewish? The guy whose hand is up his ass is Jewish. I think that's the worst. All right. Let's get serious for a moment. There have been a number of episodes since your last visit. Yes, there have. I'm just going to...
Starting point is 00:26:31 This is a long list. I'm going to just say the name. All I want to hear from you is A, have you listened? But B, will you listen? Okay. Because they're all going to be no to the first one. I want to hear, will you listen? Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Gotcha. Gotcha. These are since the Christmas episode I did with you. All right. Hit me. Pete Fowler. No. Do you know who he is?
Starting point is 00:26:47 No. I'll just, because I know. He is an OPP officer, but that's not why he was on. Oh, yeah, I know him. He was a CFNY guy. I know him. I know him, yes. He used to work at Martin Street.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Absolutely not. Stu Jeffries. No. Good rocking tonight. Yes, I like Stu. I do. He's fantastic. I think he's a great DJ.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You gotta listen to that one. Really? Oh, fuck. Then I have to listen. How come how come yeah i love guys who cry there's not a lot of the guy who is the guy who almost cried on your show that david marston no no no no no he did that was a great interview but um the guy from virgin remember he it was like i i he was he's a sticky top 40 dj guy and i listened to I'm like, I really fucking love this guy now. Oh, Mad Dog. Mad Dog.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Fucking love Mad Dog. Mad Dog's a great episode. He's a free agent. Love Mad Dog. Do you have an opportunity for him? Because he's a great radio guy. He's one of the guys I feel bad for because he's not a young guy
Starting point is 00:27:39 so he can't work for free or cheap. Right. He needs a real adult salary. He was popular in big stations for years in this big market. Yep. He gets let go because he probably made too much money.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Or who knows what. And now, really, it's been a while and he's still not back in the game. I feel like those guys get screwed out because they want people to come in, like young people who work for really cheap. I mean, it depends on how long his contract is for. He could be sitting at home making some money anyway, right? But who knows? Love Mad Dog. Love, love, love Mad Dog. I'm going to get Mad Dog
Starting point is 00:28:10 back on this show. I like Stu. Stu Jeffries was great. You got to do it. Okay. M. Greiner. No. There's crying in this episode. This one, okay. More crying? What can I... It's me, though. Okay. And I think I hide it pretty well, but I can tell you now I actually had tears in my eyes. Really? I'm actually going to recommend on a personal level. Look, I'm now connected to you personally.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I think you should listen to M. Griner because that whole episode exists for Mike cathartic purposes. So it's like I recorded a very, it was very important to me personally in this, to have this episode and I recorded it and shared it with the world. I'm very, I'm showing like great vulnerability here. I'm sharing this part of me. M.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Griner, who by the way, is a visible minority, half Filipino, okay? Oh, it's one of yours. You need, yeah, that's right. I have created a new half Filipino woman named Morgan. M. Griner, there it is, number 154. It is downloading right now.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Do it. The second half, in fact, I think you'll, considering you are a survivor, I think you will enjoy the second half of that episode, even though you might need a box of tissues. Oh, song. Do the M. Griner. Do it. My kick, man.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Do it. All right. Okay. All right. It's being downloaded. Barry Taylor. Nope. That's Barry interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:20 No interest in Barry Taylor. No interest. No 420 thought of the day. Okay. No to the next one as well. Mike Richards, by the way good episode he's a fun time Charlie
Starting point is 00:29:29 he pops some brews and he tells all it's fantastic he's drinking during his nice cracks and this is good for him
Starting point is 00:29:35 early not as early as this this is really fucking early early episode he came straight from his morning shift oh nice and he cracked it open
Starting point is 00:29:42 and he had a he told all there's nothing wrong with that all right you're not gonna listen to Mike Richards. Nope. You're not a CFNY guy,
Starting point is 00:29:47 right? I was, but I'm not a fanboy like you. All right. Well, Ivor Hamilton comes in and talks about the Spirit of Radio days at CFNY.
Starting point is 00:29:54 No interest? No interest. James Duthie. Absolutely. Finally. It's downloaded on my It's tough to please you. These are some very
Starting point is 00:30:02 interesting episodes you've turned down. James Duthie was wonderful. You should hear that. So here's a different Robbie J. This is Rob Johnston. But again, this is a CFNY. I would say if you add Ivor Hamilton to Rob Johnston,
Starting point is 00:30:13 you cover like 79 to 2015 at 102.1. So if you're not interested in any 102.1 CFNY history, those two episodes should be skipped. So you're going to skip Rob Johnston. No and no. Sorry, episodes should be skipped. So you're going to skip Rob. No, and no, sorry, Rob,
Starting point is 00:30:27 Liz West. No, she was lovely. Hazel may speak at another visible minority. Yeah, there you go. I'm, I saw the picture.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I, I'm intrigued, but I don't think I would listen. Her very, Oh, maybe I got to ask you a question. I asked this of Mike wise, who I'll get to. So Hazel May is here.
Starting point is 00:30:47 She's sitting where you are. We're having a great convo. I have a question for you. Go ahead. Okay. On my list... In fact, I always have a list of questions. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:55 To make sure I don't miss anything. I've never skipped a question in the history of this podcast. But Hazel May is sitting right there. Her extremely large former Blue Jay husband, Kevin Barker, is sitting right there. Okay? Okay. A couple of feet away. I now have the question.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I'm not going to be a dick about it, but I'm going to ask her about how she felt when Brian Burke sued all those people bringing so much attention to the rumor. Right. Because I got a cease and desist. Sure. I bring myself into the story or whatever. And then I get to the question, and I'm now about to ask about the Brian Burr. You know, she had his baby.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I know it's just a rumor, but still, the husband's right there, and I decide to skip it. Boo. And it's the only question I've skipped in the history of this podcast. Wow. Look at you. So I don't know if I lose my... I want to ask you a question about that podcast. The one thing that I found very curious about that podcast that I didn't know if I lose my... I want to ask you a question about that podcast. The one thing
Starting point is 00:31:45 that I found very curious about that podcast that I didn't listen to was the length. Why was it so short? She only had a half an hour, so I literally stole seven extra minutes. But once in a while, the guest says, I have 30 minutes, but she still came and did it. I think I asked you about that on WhatsApp, but I wanted the listenership to know. Sometimes I have time restraints from the guest. Sure. Don Landry. Yes, absolutely. Haven't listened to it, but I want to. He's a legend, man.
Starting point is 00:32:14 If you grew up listening to The Fan, I mean, he's the man. Yeah, he's a pretty good guest too because he was pretty open and honest about the whole thing. And he's, he's another guy trying to kind of make his way back, but does a bunch of stuff with the CFL and stuff. But he's funny guy too. Um,
Starting point is 00:32:34 Kid Craig. No, no, I didn't think, but Kid Craig was a bit strange. I actually had somebody else, somebody in the industry asked me what the fuck was wrong with that interview. They felt Kid Craig basically didn't have anything to say or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:45 But sometimes you don't, I just, you know, he's young and he's, he just seemed kind of young. But anyway, Kid Craig is on CFNY every single day. And I was happy to chat with him. But, you know, what can you get? Who else was there? Mike Wise. No.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Who I saw did the 6 o'clock news for CBC Toronto yesterday because Dwight Drummond was off. By the way, Dwight Drummond's co-host on that show has quit. Really? Anne-Marie Medawake. Really? Why has she quit? Another, the quote, other opportunities.
Starting point is 00:33:14 She hasn't disclosed yet. Maybe she's going to go co-host Kelly and Michael. Maybe. That's actually one of the rumors I've been hearing. Yeah, possibly. So, Mike Wise, you're not going to listen to. CBC's Mike wise ron mclean will listen to you have to yep it might win me uh gemini again another one i got a lot of uh good feedback on the ron mclean episode so listen by the way quick story ron mclean is um the guys at great lakes brewery wanted him to do a tour
Starting point is 00:33:42 and they asked me to ask him so like i you know know, so Ron's coming over. Great guy, by the way, we have a great convo. And then I'm like, I told him like, Hey, you know, not too far from here, there's a brewery and they'd love to have you for a tour. And he's such a nice guy. Ron McLean said, I don't have time now. He said, but let me give me the address. I'll write the guy and arrange it for another time. And I think that's just like, you know, to get me off his back. I'm like, that's cool. Sure. You know, that's a line or whatever. I would use that line too and never do it. He actually did it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So he actually did contact this guy at Great Lakes and he did go to Great Lakes Brewery and did a tour of the facility. I saw the photo. What a nice guy, Ron.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Nice. Cool. Very cool. Blind Derek. No. Even though he's back in the news a little bit because the retrial
Starting point is 00:34:22 of that guy. No. Zero interest. Retro Ontario episode, his second appearance. Like him, but no. Lots of hammy hamster talk. And dear Aunt Agnes and a lot of good Uncle Bobby stories you won't believe. Do you remember Uncle Bobby?
Starting point is 00:34:37 I do. Because you're a bit younger than me. I know. Yeah. I saw Uncle Bobby live. With your mom? Live, yeah, with my mom. Did she go in the trailer with him at a park in Meadowville.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Did she go in the trailer with him? I don't know what that means. There's an Uncle Bobby trailer on the premise. It's an aging court, right? No, he came to Meadowville. Maybe he didn't bring the trailer, but there's an Uncle Bobby trailer where the moms would go visit. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:35:03 To service Uncle Bobby. Really? And what was the point of that? To tell your friends, I guess, that you've been with Uncle Bobby. No, come on. They had to have been doing this something to get their kids some free chachy or something.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Well, the kids were there to see Uncle Bobby, I guess. You bring the kids to see Uncle Bobby. A mom is not going to go suck Uncle Bobby's cock unless there's a reason to benefit her or her kid somehow. The benefit is that you get to be with Uncle Bobby. The benefit is not that she gets to suck his cock. That's not how it's worked. You have no idea how fame works, Elvis.
Starting point is 00:35:35 You're living in this weird world where you think that she actually would want to do that. I think that... His name is Uncle Bobby. First of all, you've got kids, you're a housewife maybe, you're kind of bored, and you have a chance to be with Uncle Bobby. I say a lot of women would pick it up. You're fucked up. We need to do some investigative journalism
Starting point is 00:35:57 and find out why he was getting blowed up. Vic Rauter. Make the final. It's a good episode too. He's great. By the way, Don Landry does a very good Vic Rauter that you need to hear on that episode. Okay, so we're getting some yeses here. I'm excited. PJ Fresh Phil.
Starting point is 00:36:13 No. He's Filipino. You know, have you noticed, though? This is coincidence. Complete coincidence. You're using... Because I produce some biracial children. That's right. And is this a newsletter somewhere?
Starting point is 00:36:25 M. Greiner. Is there a newsletter? Hazel May. PJ Fresh Phil is a trend here. Hazel May is Filipino? Yes, she is. She's born in the Philippines. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Good for her. PJ Fresh Phil was, if you're not, you might be a bit old for PJ Fresh Phil, but anyone who's like a 90s kid in the city, I think would love that episode. There's lots of inside like grog stuff and snit stuff. I don't understand why you're trying to sell this. No one's listening to this fucking shit anyway. Maybe Rob J. wants to listen again. Steve Simmons.
Starting point is 00:36:53 All right. Here we go. That's my last episode. Here we go. Steve Simmons. I think this guy is a tool. I don't like him. I don't think he's a good writer at all but I'm intrigued especially since you mention in here
Starting point is 00:37:06 that he's going to talk about his relationship with Damien Cox he does he actually shoots me an evil eye because for the second time twice in the episode I grouped him with Damien Cox and I got shot the evil eye he's the Damien Cox of the sun he doesn't like being linked to Damien Cox
Starting point is 00:37:23 well I think you know what knowing Damien he probably The Sun. He doesn't like being linked to Damien Cox. Well, I think that... You know what? Knowing Damien, he probably doesn't fucking care. But if I were Damien, I wouldn't want to be linked to Steve Simmons. I will say that the part... What I've learned is... You said it was good, though. Yeah, it is good.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It actually is really, really good. Steve, somebody I trust, Bloge Solman or something, said it was the tire fire you hoped it would be. Like, apparently. Because Steve just... Imagine Steve Simmons, if he had as much time as he needed to just talk in a comfortable environment like this. And? And he does.
Starting point is 00:37:50 He just talks. Does he say stupid shit? Or does he just say that for his columns? Ta-ta! It's a very enjoyable episode. You need to hear Steve Simmons. And he was, I thought he was a really good guest, and he thanked me for the appearance, and he had a good time. Is Humble going to call me after this episode now, too?
Starting point is 00:38:05 I don't think Humble is. I'll give him a chance. Listen, and he thanked me for the appearance, and he had a good time. Is Humble going to call me after this episode now, too? I don't think Humble is. I'll give him a chance. Listen, I'm not a fan, but hey. I noticed this. Sometimes I don't have people. I'm not a fan of everyone who comes on this show. Sure. But I want them on the show if they're interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:17 There's a guy coming up. We're going to talk about him in a minute named Marty York, who I think is just a big internet troll. He just says these things to get you upset. Is he the CFL guy? He does. Yeah, he does CFL stuff. But he wrote at the Globe.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He wrote at the Globe and Mail forever. Right. Yes. I don't know. He went to Sportsnet or something. I don't know where he's been the last decade. TSN he went to, didn't he? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:38:38 I think it was TSN. I'm going to find out what the hell happened. I'm going to have a real heart-to-heart with this guy. A lot of people hate this guy. You're going to hold this in? I don't have an opinion on Marty York. People don't like Marty York. The guys at
Starting point is 00:38:51 MLSE... Yeah, pension plan puppets. They fucking rip him a new asshole all the time. I mentioned them in the podcast. Does he talk about them? We talk about the hot dog thing of Kessel. We have a long talk about that. He doubles down on the story. Really? Wow. We talk about the hot dog thing of Kessel. We have a long talk about that. He doubles down on the story.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Really? Yeah. Wow. We talk a lot about hot dogs in Kessel and that whole thing. We talk about everything. Keith Oberman made him the worst guy of the week. Yeah, yeah. I play the audio, and Steve's talking.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It's like pop a video or whatever. It's like a secondary audio channel on a DVD or whatever. We're playing that while Steve talks about it. It's amazing. You know what? The one thing you can't take away from the guy is that he's got a long fucking career and he's obviously, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:31 87. He's been at the sun. Yeah. He's, uh, he's got the chops. He's just, I just,
Starting point is 00:39:36 I just don't like, and he's a day one or at the fan. He's a day one or at the score. And he's a day one or at the team 10 50. He is really good at what he does because of the fact that everyone has an opinion about him like damien right and i think that's why both both of them are columnists they're not reporters in the sense that they are paid to tell us what they think and you know i think that steve i think that damien sometimes says things to get a reaction. And I think Steve maybe does that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But I also just think that he's just, I'm not sure how much of a fan he really is. When I posted to Steve Simmons, like, hey, here's Steve Simmons and I for like 90 minutes. Right. I got a number of people tell me that they're going to pass on it because they hate him. Right. I also, though, had a similar reaction for the first Mike Wilner episode. Like, they seem to both be guys who seem to yeah some people just hate them okay but do did you get the reaction that you got from mike wilner's podcast where people listened to it and loved it i think less
Starting point is 00:40:35 so like people listen to wilner a lot of people and they somebody said i humanized the beast like yeah i don't think i had i don't think ste Steve Simmons has been, I don't think I did the same thing for Steve, but some people did chime in that they, hearing him kind of talk and explain himself, they kind of understood him better and where he comes from or whatever. I think it's good to hear these guys in longer sound bites than you get like on the reporters. Well,
Starting point is 00:40:57 good for him for coming in. Cause he, yeah, he came in for, yeah. So I'm going to tell the Marty York story really quick. So Mark, like I said,
Starting point is 00:41:04 people, a lot of people are like, he's so irrelevant right now to a lot of people that they don't even follow him. But if you did read Marty York's tweets, you'd know he incites anger in Toronto sports fans. Like sometimes I find he does it just to be ridiculous. Like you can't put a lot of credibility in this.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Like he'll say something like, like Batista will strike out in a big moment or something and he'll tweet something like uh mediocre ball player batista is a mediocre ball player you can never win with him or something like that like he just and he does stuff that you'll say like stroman never can never be an ace he's not good enough or whatever like he just he's just really negative on anything toronto sports and i think this a lot of people consider that activity on Twitter to be troll-like. Because you're only saying it. You don't really believe it.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But you're saying it to piss off people and to incite anger and passion or whatever. So, Martin York does that on Twitter all the time. So, he's coming in to talk to me. But when I invited him, he came back with, do you have a budget to pay your guests? That was the reply so at this moment i get that email like he's asked from him like he's saying just no from him okay does toronto mike to have a budget to pay guests right right fair question i guess okay no it's not an unfair question i've never got it before right episode 172 like arash madani didn't reply
Starting point is 00:42:22 with like how much no no i know he's not asking. It's a lie. It's a lie. Who? Someone has asked you for payment before. Who? Cheryl. That's true, but she never got on. No, but she did ask.
Starting point is 00:42:33 That's right. It's the second time that you've asked. You're right. She was a highly sought after guest. Wouldn't be my first blind guest though. Derek gets that award. That's right. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Minorities and blind people. Look at you. So Marty York asked, do I have a budget to pay guests? award that's right look at this minorities and blind people look at you so uh marty york asked uh do i have a budget to pay guests i think at this point i think first of all i think a there's no way he's coming on if he's asking that question but i do reply like honestly which is no there's no budget to pay guests but you leave a free beer that's what i told him nice so at this point i tweeted something i said for the first time in Toronto Mike's history, a guest has asked for cash money. Now, in hindsight, he says,
Starting point is 00:43:08 do I have a budget to pay guests? Which I guess is, if you're splitting hairs, is not the same as saying I want money. But I inferred that he's only asking if he pays guests because he wants to get paid. Anyway, so I tweet. I didn't name him Marty York because I didn't think he'd ever come on at the time.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I didn't want to name him. I just said, for the first time in Toronto Mike's history, a guest has asked for cash money to appear. Okay. And I tweet that. And then whatever. Well, anyways, Marty and I go back and forth
Starting point is 00:43:31 and he starts warming up to me. Like out of nowhere, he says he likes my pitch. He doesn't do interviews anymore, even when they pay, sometimes even when they pay. But he says he's going to make an exception for me because he liked some cut of my jib or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I don't remember his terminology. But he's warmed up to me. And now we've got a date and time where he's going to make an exception for me because he liked some cut of my jib or whatever. I don't remember his terminology. But he's warmed up to me. And now we've got a date and time where he's coming over to have a one-on-one. And I have a million questions for this guy. Well, you know who he goes back and forth with on Twitter a lot. Right. And that's where I'm going. Rob J.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Somebody else who I won't name sincerely asked me if I thought Rob J. on Twitter, our fan, was Marty York. That was a sincere... And then this guy who... People know this guy, okay? This is in our world anyways. He's a famous person. He's 80% sure they're the same person. So then I decide to have a DM chat with Rob EJ.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Okay? Rob J? Rob J? And we start talking back and forth. I am convinced they are not the same person so for what it's worth in my opinion who has had email exchanges with marty york and dm exchanges with rob j they are not the same person rob j just is a big fan of both marty york and this podcast marty york is he's yeah right he there's some of his tweets here mike schillner um he hates the rogers media
Starting point is 00:44:48 guys he thinks they're all shills for the company the mother core heat and five he says yeah um his yeah if you want to be like if you're if you hate toronto sports i think you'd love to follow this guy because if you love toronto and you're a big Toronto sports fan, he'd just get your blood pressure raised for no particular reason. I could see that. I could see that.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And even last year when the Jays were amazing, I believe he tweeted after the deadline and he might have deleted it, but after the deadline, he tweeted something like too little after the too low
Starting point is 00:45:19 in the price thing. Too little, too late. Jays don't have a chance or something. And then he's wrong. I think he deleted that tweet. But even when the Jays are good, because right now it's easy to jump late. Jays don't have a chance or something. And then he's wrong. I think he deleted that tweet. But even when the Jays are good, because right now it's easy to jump on the Jays
Starting point is 00:45:29 because they're kind of mediocre right now, their average team. But when they're riding high, he's still shitting on them. It doesn't matter. Only two teams in AL have fewer losses than blow Jays. What a bad team, despite all the ridiculous hype from Homer media types.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Hashtag irresponsible. If I had only a dime for every junkie and Homer media type in Toronto who predicted a dominating season for Jays, I'd pick them for fourth place. So a lot of that. And he may, because blind squirrels find nuts now and then. And every season you say the Jays suck,
Starting point is 00:45:59 they're not making it. You're right most of the time. I noticed, like I said, last year, he had to get a little quiet at the end of that freaking September. I abhor reporters who cheer is in his bio. So he's any, and maybe the allure of my podcast is that it's independent.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I could see like, there's no- Well, it's not really. It's owned by Great Lakes Brewery. That's right, but they don't pay for guests. I know, they only pay in beer. So Marty York is coming on, unless he's pissed at me for that tweet. Sounds intriguing.
Starting point is 00:46:26 This morning he discovered that I had tweeted that a guest had asked for money, and somebody guessed it was Marty York, which was an easy guess to make, considering later yesterday I tweeted that Marty York was coming on the podcast. KJ, by the way, from Boom97.3, who was on 680 CFTR when I listened back in the 80s, is coming on this weekend. Oh, wow. Cool. I have a bunch of Tom Rivers questions for him.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Love Tom Rivers. Yep. RIP, man. All right. Holy shit. We're going to start this podcast, okay? Wow. Oh, I got a live one here.
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Starting point is 00:47:04 Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo. Woo..-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W- Just want to say that Bad Dance was a cool fucking track when I was a teenager
Starting point is 00:47:09 I dug it Do you know that that album was critically panned and I think it is a phenomenal soundtrack Phenomenal Agreed Loved it back then
Starting point is 00:47:20 Love it now But we were teens I know you're a couple years younger than me but in 89 that's when it comes out. I remember having the Batman shirt. We're teens, right? You're like 13 or something. So don't you think that...
Starting point is 00:47:33 I always wondered as an adult, because I loved... This was played on Much Music every five minutes, too. And I loved the video, and I loved the soundtrack. I own the soundtrack, and I loved it. And I always wondered, well, maybe it's because I was a teenager,
Starting point is 00:47:44 and it was kind of like, maybe adults don't like this stuff. I don't know. Cause Prince seemed to just, he seemed to me to distance himself from the bad dance stuff. Because whenever he'd talk about songs or release like compilations and stuff, I always felt like this song and this album were like slighted for being maybe too sellout-y maybe. Too sellout-y maybe. Too sell-outy maybe? Can I tell some stories here? Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So I was delivering newspapers, the Toronto Star. And part of the deal was that you would also go door-to-door and canvas for new subscriptions, new subscribers. And they would have contests and give you prizes. And there was one, I remember it clearly. It was a month long, it was a week long or month long contest. And you had to achieve a certain number of subscribers.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And when you did, the prize was a VHS copy of Batman, the very first one. And I remember the last week, me and a friend of Batman, the very first one. And I remember the last week, me and a friend of mine, we were so close. We stayed out ringing doorbells until 10 p.m. at night. Nice. And I got that Batman VHS, and I loved that movie.
Starting point is 00:48:56 I played it till I broke the tape. Beautiful. The other story I want to tell about is Prince. Okay, talk about Prince. I have never become saddened or emotional the way I have about Prince. It's almost embarrassing to say, but when I found out that he died, I was in shock and I got in the go train and I had all this Prince music on my phone and I listened to
Starting point is 00:49:27 it the whole way home on the train, the whole drive home. I got home and normally when I get home, like the kids are in bed, Mrs. Elvis is upstairs and I'll like, you know, take my medication and then go to bed. Took my medication and sat on the couch in my underwear, listening to Prince on my iPod. And I must've been down there long enough where, uh, Mrs. Elvis comes down is wondering what's going on. Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I'm sitting on one couch. She's sitting on the other couch and she's like, what's going on? And I look at her and I just start bawling. Like uncontrollably weeping, like I feel like I should do now. And she's like, oh my God, what's wrong? Do it. I like it when people cry in this podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:12 She's like, oh my God, what's wrong? And I'm like, I couldn't even say it. I'm like, Prince is dead. And she's like, she was shocked that I felt this way, that I was so emotional. Yeah. And I'm like, I spent hours and hours and hours of my teenage life sitting in my room listening to cassettes and CDs of Prince. He was someone that I never really talked about a lot because it wasn't necessarily cool.
Starting point is 00:50:43 But his music had such a huge influence on my life, and I just felt completely gutted. And there was just something that was gone that I've never felt before when someone famous that left. And I didn't realize how much he had affected me until he's gone. I knew that it wasn't because I had had a couple of beers that I was crying because the next morning I cried again. It wasn't because I had had a couple of beers that I was crying because the next morning I cried again. And then today I'm listening to the replay of Howard Stern's show from yesterday where he does a Prince tribute. And I cried again on the way here. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So this is the celebrity death that has affected you the most. The most. I mean, I was one year, one day, and one month old when Elvis Presley died. So I don't remember that. But I can't explain it. It's weird, but I miss, like, the music just means so much to me, and I didn't realize how much until he was gone, which is so true
Starting point is 00:51:34 of relationships. That's such a beautiful tribute. I'm not even going to soil it with a joke. That's how beautiful that was. Thank you. What a fucking great song, man. This is my favorite Prince song. People are saying enough with the Purple Rain, enough with the When Doves Cry. You had so many others. But I mean, like, it's just fucking great.
Starting point is 00:51:52 This one says Magnus Opus. It's so good. You like that word, Magnus Opus. I don't know what it means, but. It's great. You have to Google it. And Cream. I remember Sexy Motherfucker came out.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And even like Seven, like stuff like that. Oh, Seven is great. Yeah, you want to see it? Diamonds and Pearls? Yeah. Huh. So great. So the last thing I wanted to say about Batman.
Starting point is 00:52:12 So Howard told this story yesterday, which I didn't know. Tim Burton wanted to use two Prince songs in that Batman movie. And so he called the meeting with Prince to ask him. And Prince showed up to the meeting with the full Batman soundtrack. He's like, here's your soundtrack. All original music. I recently discovered on Vimeo, somebody posted a remix of this song that never got released
Starting point is 00:52:36 because Warner Brothers didn't want it released. But you've got to dig it up. Really? Warner Brothers said no because it was too different and they didn't want it released. So they stopped it from getting out but it's a cool remix
Starting point is 00:52:47 some DJ did back in 89 of Bad Dance he's a virtuoso man and listen I get I get people are upset and saddened
Starting point is 00:52:56 and so am I by Bowie but Prince had much more influence on me personally than David Bowie did that's fair that's fair man
Starting point is 00:53:03 I'm gonna be I'll be really upset if Chad Kroger ever goes. I'm sure you will. Listen, I, you never know like which celebrity death is going to hit you in that way
Starting point is 00:53:14 because I think, I can't remember the quote now, but somebody's talked about how they're like light posts or whatever or like they're like landmarks in your life's journey or whatever and you just assume they're always going to be. Maybe it's you.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Is this your quote? It was. Yeah, I posted it. Because that's the best way to explain this. So this landmark in your life's journey, you just take it for granted. It will always be there. And then when it's not there, you feel lost somehow. Like it's like you just that should always be there.
Starting point is 00:53:42 The thing about Prince, 57 years old, and I know we're hearing stories about this and that, but when you saw him, he just looked healthy. Like, he looked like a vibrant, healthy guy. And that's another thing is that it's not like, at least Bowie, we heard, he was older and we heard about the cancer. So when you get the Bowie news, you're like,
Starting point is 00:53:59 oh shit, man, cancer got another one or whatever. But with Prince, there was no like, you know, it was just like a big, like, bang, he's gone. You want me to read the quote and then leave it? Yeah, read the quote and then we'll move on. Dead reckoning. It's a noun. To find yourself bothered by someone's death more than you would have expected, as if you assume they would always be part of the landscape, like a lighthouse you could pass by for years until the night it suddenly goes dark, leaving you with one less landmark to navigate by. Still able to find your bearings, but feeling
Starting point is 00:54:28 all that much more adrift. Miss you, Prince. My sweet Prince. I'm going to cry. Move over, David Marsden. Move over, M. Greiner. It's brutal.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Spider Jones, you got an update uh nothing you were nothing well how could he i don't understand is he too big for tron right really i don't know ron mclean came on like does he know ron mclean has been in the toronto mic studios i don't understand james duffy drove so make the final he's the boy he's the bob he's curling he's the vim scully he's on primetime television every night. And forget 1.5 million. You got a couple of guys throwing rocks, and you get 1.5 people in Saskatoon watching that.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I don't know what that means, but sure. It just means curling is popular in this country, and people watch it. Yeah, come on, a Vic Router can come here. Spider Jones can come here. I'm disappointed in you, to be honest, because you were tasked with... I wasn't tasked with anything. Yeah, it's on the Christmas episode.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I sent him some messages. Yeah, okay, so we got Spider Jones. He responded and then he went dark. Maybe he wants money. He wants to find out what Marty York gets and then he wants to double it. All right, fun little true story here is that there is a
Starting point is 00:55:44 Humber College student, a radio student at Humber College, which has a campus down the street and possibly will become the very first Toronto Mic intern. Like a guest wrangler, et cetera, possibly. You mean you're going to get an intern to get you guests?
Starting point is 00:56:02 To help me schedule and... Because this is the hardest part of the job. Will this be paid or anything? Maestro Fresh West is killing me. I want him so bad. He agrees to come on. He says, let's go back and forth. He's like, let's pick a date at this time.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And then I go back. He's gone. He's stopped replying. I had this chat with Retro Ontario. I don't want to annoy him. I still want him to come on. So I'm giving him a lot of air, a lot of space. he promised april he'd come on we're now in may and i don't i don't know how to get that next this is one of your big gets too right it's a personal big guest is maestro fresh
Starting point is 00:56:34 west maestro fresh west and there was someone else that you really wanted um yeah i can't remember who else uh i can't remember it was someone else big i can't remember was it was someone else big. I can't remember. Was it Drake? I don't think it was Drake. So Drake released an album on Friday. Views. Views. And Friday night, I'm in the car with James, my son, and my daughter, Michelle.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And we're blasting this in the car. James is covering his ears because he doesn't want any spoilers because when a new album he likes drops, he puts on his headphones and he listens alone for the first time. Amazing. And I... I love that. Okay. I love that.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Part of me said, oh, that's cool. But then part of me is like like I have to shut this down because an album can be spoiled this is the first spoiler alert I ever got for an album I love it
Starting point is 00:57:32 I think it's great good for you James yeah he's got a whole ritual for the first listen of an album he anticipates I love it
Starting point is 00:57:38 he's a big Drake guy I double click on that I'm sure so I just thought it was interesting to get a spoiler alert for an album that's the first one I've ever gotten this song by the. So I just thought it was interesting to get a spoiler alert for an album. That's the first one I've ever gotten.
Starting point is 00:57:46 This song, by the way, so I've listened to it several times now because I bike to it. I've been biking to it. It's the first song I've ever heard off this album and maybe the first Drake song I've ever heard. Is that right? No, Hotline Bling. You could have missed Hotline Bling. What about Back to Back? It's this track.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I have no idea what that is. I'm surprised by it. Oh, maybe because your kids are so young your kids are young correct I'm immersed in Drake all the time we're still in
Starting point is 00:58:09 Katy Perry and Meghan Trainor and all that kind of and Michelle who's turning 12 is still pretty I hear a lot of Selena Gomez
Starting point is 00:58:18 and stuff yeah we like Selena Gomez too who I've seen in concert good for you but my son is all about hip hop there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:58:24 acts I've never heard of. There's Joey Badass. I hear a lot of Joey Badass. Joey? Yeah. He's talking about Joey Badass. Joey Batista? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And Badass, by the way, the S's are dollar signs. Of course they are. Of course. I hear a lot of Drake. If they were Zeds, that would be so 90s. There's hundreds of Drake songs
Starting point is 00:58:41 being played all the time in this freaking house because of James. So I listen to the album and I get into it because James is into it. I like Drake anyway. I think I'd like Drake if I didn't have kids, to be honest. I really like the fact he's a Toronto guy and I like his music.
Starting point is 00:58:51 So I'm listening to the album. I'm just going to throw this out there. This is called One Dance. And I predict One Dance will be the song of the summer. Really? This song? You're listening to it now, yeah. All right. Not the rock, not the Oshawa rock song of the summer, okay? The pop. I it now, yeah. Alright. Not the rock,
Starting point is 00:59:06 not the Oshawa rock song of the summer, okay? The pop. I don't know what that means. What's the station in Oshawa called? There's three of them. Okay, but the rock. There's the rock, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:14 The rock station. The rock's not gonna play this. I don't get it, man. I really don't get it. That's fair. Good for him. Music is like that. It's all good for him.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I get it. The thing about Drake, and I think he's suckered a lot of hip-hop heads, is that he's the rapper who raps the least. He sings 90% of his album. He does. He does.
Starting point is 00:59:33 There's not a lot of rapping on this album. It's singing. And he's a good singer. But it's got a good... And a lot of these... He tricks guys who are looking for a heavy
Starting point is 00:59:39 hip-hop flow are kind of tricked into the bump and grind kind of thing. Why doesn't he get the credit that he deserves for rehabilitating himself and getting out of the wheelchair i mean like oh really just yesterday i post why him and not christopher reef i love this that you brought this up because in 20 2007 my first wife and i were at a raptors game and we had really good
Starting point is 00:59:59 seats okay we're at a raptors game we bump bump into Aubrey Graham, okay? How dare you? Aubrey had... How dare you? I elbowed him. And I wrote about this on my blog just briefly because I said, nobody knows
Starting point is 01:00:13 who Aubrey Graham is, but this is Jimmy from Degrassi, okay? And I'm like, I also bumped into Snake from Degrassi. And Snake, and there's something
Starting point is 01:00:21 in my entry, this is 07. Drake, I think Snake is the bigger star. Okay, this is true. So I write this in 07 Drake I think Snake is the bigger star okay this is true so I write this in 07 I bump into Aubrey Graham at a
Starting point is 01:00:28 Raptors game and Snake is the bigger deal but hey I saw Jimmy from Degrassi and he's not in a wheelchair whatever 07 and I saw it yesterday and I hadn't actually referenced it since 07
Starting point is 01:00:38 but it was so strange that this same guy who's at a Raptors game and I never knew he had a middle name Drake and he's a middle name, Drake, and he's a guy from Degrassi. Could it be a bigger fucking star? Is that his real name?
Starting point is 01:00:49 His name's Aubrey Drake Graham. I had no idea. Yeah, like he just uses his middle name for rap. But bigger than Snake. Do you think it's still true? The Snake's still bigger than Drake. You know what's funny is that I have a lot of coworkers in the Bay Area in the U S.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And so obviously they're, they're, uh, you know, going crazy over the warriors. Yes. And I was talking to someone on my team yesterday and he mentioned that it would be great if,
Starting point is 01:01:14 if it was Raptors versus warriors in the final. Um, part of the reason why is because he'd love to be able to see Drake. And, uh, and, uh, I said, Oh, you like Drake? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good. Uh, and I said, oh, you like Drake?
Starting point is 01:01:26 And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good. And I said, well, he's obviously huge here. And he's like, oh, really? And I'm like, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's a big Toronto guy. He's like, oh, I didn't know that. I always just imagined him as a Disney guy. Oh, like Justin Timberlake.
Starting point is 01:01:39 No, Disney because Degrassi plays on the Disney network in the US. Gotcha. And so we equate just Degrassi as Degrassi, right? Degrassi plays on the Disney network in the U.S. Gotcha. And so we equate just Degrassi as Degrassi, right? Degrassi was on CBC, I guess. Yeah, it was originally. But we don't say he's a CBC guy. We say he's a Degrassi guy. But for them, he's a Disney guy because he was on the Disney Channel.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Sort of like how Selena Gomez is still a Disney person. But apparently Degrassi was huge down in the States. I had no idea. I thought you were going somewhere else, but when I was in Germany, there was a young man I was chatting with, and I'm like, we're talking about music, and he's a big rap guy.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And as I always do when I'm overseas, I say this basically, what do you think of Drake? I just say it like that. And he's like, he's my favorite. He goes on about Drake as his favorite hip-hop artist. Really? And then I always do, of course,
Starting point is 01:02:24 I go, you know, he's a Toronto guy. This guy had no idea. Just assumed he's American. Never really, you know, had no idea. And then it's like, I want to say like, you know, he's not just a Toronto guy. Like, he's the Toronto guy. Like, everything.
Starting point is 01:02:36 There's only a few stars that get to that point, right? Yeah. I don't think Celine Dion did because she has the accent, but I think she, I mean, she was like a huge phenomenon. Oh, sure. But Shania, Alanis. But Celine was never cool. Like these, you know, Drake is cool. He's got, he's got the cred where he's cool with the young people.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I'm just thinking about international. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shania for sure. Shania, Alanis, Bieber. Chad Kroger. And Drake. Right? That's the Mount Rushmore really
Starting point is 01:03:07 right now I mean in the last say 20 years 30 years you said Bieber right Bieber, Drake Celine or Shania
Starting point is 01:03:14 and Alanis yeah Shania and Alanis are barely the last 20 years I gotta get a calendar 90s right they're leaking into the 90s 90s it's been a long time
Starting point is 01:03:21 since they've been a big deal but Bieber and Drake are as big as it gets in the world of pop right now. It's crazy. It's as big as it gets. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Very exciting. But the Drake album is nothing special, by the way, but it did grow on me and it's a fun listen and there's lots of Toronto references dropped in there. Yeah, well, it was going to be
Starting point is 01:03:38 called Views from the Six, right? Yeah, forever. But at least the cover is still Drake sitting on the CN Tower. Oh, is that why people are doing that on Facebook? Now I sound like an old guy. I'm a little surprised. I understand you're a rock
Starting point is 01:03:50 guy, right? You're a rock guy. And your kids are so young, you said it's Meghan Trainor and all that. So they're not going to listen to any Drake. He says the N-word. I'm just going to warn you right up to the point. But he's half black. You know, he's also Jewish. His mom is Jewish. He had a bar mitzvah. Good for him.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah. But yeah, anyway. You know what? I am surprised, too, because I usually try and keep in touch. And certainly my team at work is very young. But I just, I don't get it. I get it, but I don't get it. I have no interest in getting it.
Starting point is 01:04:18 You know what? He's got a big catalog. So you need somebody to say, listen to these 10 tracks. Yeah. I could do that for you. You know what? I think it's the hip hop. For me, hip hop is obviously you know old school old old school
Starting point is 01:04:29 and then like don't look and then no no like uh nwa public enemy all that kind of stuff and then maybe like like i was listening to busta rhymes yesterday believe it or not so maybe a little wu-tang and stuff from the early 90s but But after that, it's gone. LL Cool J, stuff like that and then it's over. I'm not really into any of the newer stuff. Drake accepted I'm not big on
Starting point is 01:04:52 the newer stuff either. Although, my son will play, he'll say stuff like, the one that my son plays a lot that actually is really good is the Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 01:04:59 It's really good stuff. But he'll do Earl sweatshirts. Isn't he soul though? Isn't he R&B? No, the stuff I hear is really heavy rap. Oh, I thought he was like a crooner. You're thinking of the guy who came out as a homosexual.
Starting point is 01:05:15 What's his name? He's the guy, he had the orange, the album's called Orange. And I remember he came out, which was really groundbreaking because in that genre, there's still a lot of homophobia going on in that genre sam smith no he's not in that genre sam smith is like your straight-up pop singer he's like boy george incarnate he's he's nothing hip-hop about him so the guy yeah he's like but he sings soulful stuff and it'll come to me later every episode has me trying to remember something and i don't bother to Google it. Anyway, Orange is the name of the album,
Starting point is 01:05:46 so you Google it. I'm Googling it right now. I have to give a shout out to... Fuck, we've been talking for an hour and 15 minutes. Okay, this is at underscore Unionville kid. I promised I'd give him a shout out.
Starting point is 01:05:56 He deserves it because he helped Retro Ontario track down the singer-songwriter of the Magic Shadows theme. So the Magic Shadows theme, which sounds a lot like a Beatles song, Retro Ontario couldn't find the composer and At Union Kid found the composer for him
Starting point is 01:06:13 thanks to some good Google foo. So thank you for that. What's that artist's name? Frank Ocean. That's a good case. Never heard of him in my life. All right. I thought you were thinking of Frank Ocean.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Never heard of him. Not Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar, the stuff I've heard of him in my life. All right. I thought you were thinking of Frank Ocean. Never heard of him. Not Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar, the stuff I've heard anyways, is definitely rap. He's a ghostwriter for several prominent artists. So Frank Ocean is. John Legend, Justin Bieber, and Brandy. Not only was that album pretty good, very good, but he became very popular by coming out openly gay in that field field of music which is unusual so he's uh you know
Starting point is 01:06:48 groundbreaker if you will interesting he came out in 2012 yeah but he's good too but that's not rap he's a singer guy like d'angelo or something like that d'angelo did a great version of it only snows it or When It Snows in April. I'm only happy when it rains. No, no, no. On Jimmy Fallon for Prince. Oh, nice. And he was crying during it.
Starting point is 01:07:13 It was great. It was really good. Very good. So last, not last time, but when I had Retro Ontario here, by the way, I mentioned on the podcast that I had never seen Game of Thrones. And it feels, by the way, I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones. I hear it's great, but I feel it's been ruined for me. There's too much out there. I feel like there's too much out there.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I'm not even sure I want to watch it. But I say this on the podcast of Retro Ontario. Four days later, maybe three days later, there's a FedEx package at the door. The first season of Game of Thrones on DVD, courtesy of HBO Canada. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Yeah. Very good. It's a phenomenal show. Fucking love it. I hear, no, I hear it. From people who like The Wire, my favorite show of all time, they say Game of Thrones is good. I know I would like it,
Starting point is 01:07:55 but it's almost like I waited too long, maybe. No, man. There's a lot going on out there. No, watch it. And it's definitely a show you could watch multiple times, too, because there's just so much going on. So thank you, HBO Canada.
Starting point is 01:08:05 I also need a car that has at least six seatbelts. This is an important future endeavor of mine. I need to be able to put the whole family in one automobile. You got to call up your friends at GM. Well, I am borrowing GM and Ford are lending me cars. A Ford Flex and a GM Enclave or some kind of Buick Enclave, I think. Anyway, I am doing that borrowing, but I need somebody to give me a car.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Like HBO gave me that DVD. So I'm just throwing it out there. Did you know Google Play is added podcast? You're an Apple guy. So this won't matter to you. So you've been living in like an iTunes universe? Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:46 So us Android people have always had to use like some third-party app to kind of do our podcast thing, and it's never been as smooth sailing as you had with iTunes, but that has changed
Starting point is 01:08:56 because Google, it's called Google Play Music, has added podcasts. I have added Toronto Mic to the Google Play list. Nice. So people, Android people particularly, but also people who listen on their computer because I find it convenient just in the the Google Play list. Nice. So people, Android people particularly,
Starting point is 01:09:05 but also people who listen on their computer, because I find it convenient just in the browser, like Chrome or whatever, subscribe to Toronto Mic'd in Google Play Music. And it's a great place, I find, to subscribe and listen to your favorite podcasts. Not everybody has kind of gone over there, but a lot of the big podcasts have, including this one.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So yeah, Google Play Music has added podcasts, and I'm a happy guy as a result. Sweet. Android people will love that. I was going to tell you the story when you were going to come in that day that my wife went into surgery, but just prior to that, I'm in the car with the kids.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Right. And out of nowhere, this comes out of my mouth, out of nowhere, Michelle's beside me, James is in the back, they take turns to get in the front seat so i said this don't try to compare us to another bad little fad on the mac and i'm back give you something that you never had like i just that comes out of my mouth like sometimes random rap songs just come out like it's like a tourette's thing but anyway that comes out no word of a line trust me when i tell you there's no embellishment here and my
Starting point is 01:10:03 my daughter were here she would tell you 100%. 10 seconds later, I turned the station in the car, swear to you, the song playing on the radio is Chris Cross's Jump. And I thought that was exciting because it's not a newer song,
Starting point is 01:10:19 it's really old. Sure. And I don't know how much play time Chris Cross's Jump is getting these days, but it just right away, it was on the radio. It just seemed like such a wonderful happenstance, random.
Starting point is 01:10:31 It just seemed so great. I had to share it. I think it's embarrassing that you are admitting to knowing the words to that song. Yeah. And do you know when he goes off another bad little fad, he's going off on another bad creation,
Starting point is 01:10:42 which was like a kid kid hip-hop thing going on from the um the pete puff daddy family of people what were they called again puff daddy was in that group uh something family i think it was just the family wasn't it was the family maybe so in that collective of east coast stuff another bad creation was their kid hip hop thing that they were doing another bad creation had a hit at the time Moesha no Aisha
Starting point is 01:11:08 cause you got the groove that is in my heart and I want to get to know you better is Chris or Cross dead one of the brothers one of the brothers died
Starting point is 01:11:16 they weren't brothers they were not related oh they weren't no oh I thought they were but one is dead yes oh that sucks
Starting point is 01:11:21 it's like Milli Vanilli one is dead yes one is dead yes except they sang the Chris Cross guys did their own song was it Rob or Van that's. It's like Milli Vanilli. One is dead, yes. One is dead, yes. Except they sang, the Criss Cross guys did their own song. Was it Rob or Van that's dead? It's Van, I think. I can never remember.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I can never remember. That's a great story. Like, that needs to be a movie. Like, you have like, that's a great story for a movie, I think, because you have these male models and you have, it's just a whole idea
Starting point is 01:11:37 that they're going to be the face of this band. Like, it's just an amazing story. It is strange. And it ends with, there's a death. It's also strange that they were male models. They were handsome. I don't think so, were they?
Starting point is 01:11:47 I thought they were handsome. Really? And they had great hair. They did. They might have been fake, though. They had amazing hair. Like, they're singing. It could have been fake.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Could have been. A lot of people, I've learned, and I didn't know this, and now I'm learning. A lot of people have fake hair. Yeah. A lot of women will have this great hair, and my wife will say, oh, that's extensions. And I'm like, whoa. I never even consider extensions. It's crazy. A lot of people have fake hair.
Starting point is 01:12:07 A lot of people have fake hair. How come you bailed on my hockey pool? Why have you bailed three of the past four years? And why do you bail on draft day? Because it's amazing. I love it so much. Because I'm not going to invite you next year. Because it's like Lucy and the football. I'm not going to kick your
Starting point is 01:12:24 football next year. Because you're just dicking with me. You're the only person this year who's bailed on draft day. No, it's again, it's just a question of distance and a question of how to get out here. But you have a big heads up that this Monday night at 6 p.m. You still can't get in. In order for me to bring in a car, I have to leave my house even earlier than I already do. It's insane to get downtown because I don't like traffic.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I can't stand it. Can't handle it. I want to jerk the wheel and drive into the guardrail. I don't know. I just feel like maybe next time you say no, because you said yes. Maybe next time I should work from here in the morning all day. You're going to have to do something different because I'm not inviting you otherwise. I can't have because it's hard to plan these things. You want a certain number.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You don't want too many. You don't want too few. It's no planning. But if people bail on draft day, you mess it up. How was the lasagna? Great. Yeah, yeah. We had lasagna with a beer, obviously, from Great Lakes. Yeah, that's also disappointing. I would have been the only one drinking. No.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Two beers. Alexi drank. Two beers were drank out of how many guys? Patino and Alexi drank. I was surprised. James can't drink. He's underage. And there was another guy underage.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So if we take them out of the equation, we have 11 legal drinkers, I'd say. And they were here for how long? Two hours? Yeah. Three hours? And two beers were consumed? And I know. I'm as surprised as anybody. Now, 11 legal drinkers, I'd say. And they were here for how long? Two hours? Yeah. Three hours? And I... And two beers were consumed? And I know. I'm as surprised as anybody. Now, I was very busy. I couldn't drink. I was very busy. I'm the commissioner. I gotta record everything. Yeah. Very busy. But
Starting point is 01:13:53 Patino and Alexi... Had a beer. Had beer. And I was surprised. But my brothers don't drink. And I always forget that. I don't drink a lot myself, actually. But they drink less than I do. So they were two of them. And my wife, I guess she could have drank. I don't know. Who's winning that i don't drink a lot myself actually but they drink less than i do so they were two of them and my wife i guess she could have drank i don't know but who's winning right now who's in the lead i'm in last because you know why i'll tell you why i 60 six out of my 10 players were los angeles kings because i decided they were it was their
Starting point is 01:14:18 turn because they won in chicago then they went chicago and it's their turn yeah that seems i went heavy on the kings good logic well nothing else has worked for and it's their turn. Yeah, that seems like good logic. So I went heavy on the Kings. Good logic. Well, nothing else has worked for me. It's going to rotate, right? Yeah. It's their turn. I was wrong. If you had told me both the Blackhawks and the Kings were going out in the first round,
Starting point is 01:14:32 I would have lost a lot of money. So I'm out. I believe it's Patino is winning right now. Good for him. Good for him. All right, so don't bail on the pool next year. I have Mel from Fearless Fred and Mel, which is the 102.1 Morning Show right now.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Mel is going to come on this podcast. And my question to you is, I have stopped playing the Fearless Fred clip. How are you going to deal with the feud that you're having? Well, that's what I want to ask you. I'm surprised that you would even allow this to happen. I'm going to ask you this. I'm not a feud of anybody.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I love everybody. I would love Fearless Fred on the show just because I've going to ask you this. I'm not in favor of anybody. I love everybody. I would love Fearless Fred on the show just because I got questions for the guy. But Mel, here's my question for you. I have made a pledge.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I'm not playing. People seem to get mad at me when I play the Fearless Fred like I'm poking, like I'm bringing this old thing up and it's like just to be sensational
Starting point is 01:15:21 which is partly true. Like I play it because it's exciting. But it's also about you. Right. So when Kelly Cotrera was on the show kelly catrera right by the way i feel bad for her she seems to have taken on bill carroll's spot in 640 without the actual bill carroll compensation package well but at some point 640 either says no or yes like and if you say yes make it give her a deal. Because right now,
Starting point is 01:15:46 she's sort of a pay-as-you-go, inexpensive resource, but she's essentially doing the job. I just don't think it's fair to Kelly. That's how the industry works. Industry sucks. It does. Why were you in this industry
Starting point is 01:15:55 for so long? That's why I'm not in it. Is that why? There's no way I could have three kids and have the house that I have and all that stuff. There's no way. Because I'm not good.
Starting point is 01:16:03 So there's no way that I'm going to be, you know, a John Derringer or Aaron Davis. Or yeah. Bobcat. Those guys don't make a lot of money. Like, I mean, those guys do. But everyone else doesn't make a lot of money. So what do you think?
Starting point is 01:16:18 What is your feeling? Like a Mel, let's say Mel, for example. She's a co-host of a morning show on a very big Toronto station. What do you think she's getting paid? I don't know. I know you don't know. Like $60, $70 maybe? But you can live on $70 in the city, can't you?
Starting point is 01:16:35 I don't think so. Can you? I don't think so. I don't know. What if you have a partner maybe? I think you know what you're getting into in the business and you do it because you love it. I think you interviewed somebody in the past, the guy Biggs or Barr,
Starting point is 01:16:47 and I think the impression of the industry is that he doesn't really like what he does, which sucks. Barr. But it's a creative industry, obviously, and so I think you get a lot of satisfaction about being creative and being able to practice your craft every day.
Starting point is 01:17:01 It beats working for a living. It beats working in an assembly line or something. I don't know. I guess I was just too money motivated and didn't... But you're not young. You're young, relatively speaking, but you're not like these people.
Starting point is 01:17:15 So when you were... I'm going to take you back to the late 90s. There was still money in radio in the late 90s, wasn't there? I don't think so. I mean, for me, I also didn't really want to move to Sudbury.
Starting point is 01:17:28 I interviewed Dan Schulman, and he would tell me about working way up north and then being brought back to Toronto. Why didn't you get him on the show? I didn't really want to do that. Skip the spider thing. I've lost interest in spider shows. Now, I've interviewed Dan Schulman before. Get him on the show. He's super nice he probably would at least answer but i don't want to
Starting point is 01:17:47 risk me saying that i i so i interviewed dan shulman had an hour and a half conversation with him but i had lunch with elliot freeman and he blew me off so i don't know like he doesn't remember me at all obviously i'm not claiming that dan shulman is going to remember me, but he didn't have lunch with me. It's a good opening thing. You can remind him of that interview. Oh, and how I want to do it over? Because that was a horrible interview? Yeah, tell him now you have a good co-host.
Starting point is 01:18:17 And what I've learned works is you've got to drop certain names, and when people see those people data, they start to consider it. Let them know. Elliot Friedman. Aaron Davis is a good name to draw. Aaron Davis doesn't get to go to
Starting point is 01:18:32 some schlub's basement and do a pot. And her husband came too. And his name was Miles Long. Which is a fucking great name. Is that a stage name? Did you ask him that? Of course it is. His name is Rob, I think. Is it? Rob. Miles Long. He was's Rob, I think. Is it? Rob. Miles. Who's very nice, but yeah, he was miles long.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Amazing. Yeah, I would... Yeah. So, please get Shulman on this podcast. Dan Shulman is a legend. He's a guy I want to talk to. It's not going to happen now, though, because it's baseball season. It'll have to happen...
Starting point is 01:18:58 He doesn't... Okay, well, it might happen. I don't know. Try. Thank you. So, Hockey Pool Bailed, Mel. Oh, yeah. So, I promise I wouldn't play the Fearless Fred thing anymore, and it was done with it
Starting point is 01:19:09 because it was like, I was tired of the people complaining, even though it was probably two or three people. It just seemed really loud. Maybe you could just reference it when you meet with them. Should I? But if I had Mel on, I just want permission from you to play the clip one last time because his co-host is on. Yeah, I'd say play it.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Thank you. Fuck it. Get her opinion on it. Maybe she can broker the truce. Because he obviously hates her. She might get fired because she's here. I mean, really. He might just be like, fuck you. Don't say that. She hasn't come on yet.
Starting point is 01:19:33 You are an asshole. I'm not an asshole. I'm not an asshole. Nobody in all these episodes, nobody's actually left here having had a bad experience. Present company accepted. Well, that's different. You're lucky I let you back on. Come on. This has been the best year of this podcast history,
Starting point is 01:19:48 and it's because you haven't been on this year. You've had quite the run. Yeah, I will agree. Can you give me a quick TFC update with the Argos coming to BMO? Dude, home opener. First game in the show. They played the first eight games, I believe it was,
Starting point is 01:20:00 on the road as they've been renovating BMO Field. There is now a roof, not a full roof, a soccer roof, on the road as they've been renovating bimo field there is now a roof not a full roof a soccer roof uh on the field uh home opener saturday night 7 30 i will be there really fucking excited um they are at the beginning of the season they had the um best odds to win the entire fucking thing wow um they've been you know their record at the end of these eight road games is where it should be when you play eight road games in a row. And so coming back home,
Starting point is 01:20:32 huge expectation for this team to really do well because obviously you play eight consecutive games on the road. You got a whole fucking lot of home games for the rest of the season. Right. And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped, man. I think that this team can really build on what they've done last season, this season. Okay. And the stadium of the season. Right. And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped, man. I think that this team can really build
Starting point is 01:20:45 on what they've done last season, this season. Okay. And the stadium looks fucking great. Yeah, I bike by that stadium all the time. It looks great. And we're going to go to a game. So are you pissed, though, that the Argos are going to fuck up your field?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yes, absolutely. No Argos at BMO. Fucking stupid. It's really, really stupid. Don Landry is happy about this. Of course he is, because the Argos would be without a home. They would have nowhere to play.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Literally nowhere to play. What other CFL guy did I have on? Marty York. Not yet. He might hear this and fail. Listen, Argos, put on your big girl panties and get your own fucking stadium. If you were that...
Starting point is 01:21:21 Do you think that's a politically correct statement? If you were as good as CFL lady says that you are, you would be able to have the ability to get your own fucking stadium. So go get your own fucking stadium. Who owns... But BMO is not owned... Like, who owns BMO?
Starting point is 01:21:35 The city, right? We should share. I don't know. I don't know. It should be okay for the... Why... There is no evidence to show that football and soccer can be played on the same pitch without completely destroying the pitch. See, I have to plead ignorance on this one.
Starting point is 01:21:51 There's nothing. Nothing to suggest it. And the asshole at MLSE, he's such a fucking dick. He's quoted in the paper. He's like, everybody's worried about the field. Calm down, everybody. Who is that? That's not Lewicki, right? No, everybody who is that that's not the wiki right he's gone no no it's like the actual turf guy oh the and his quote in the in the paper was
Starting point is 01:22:10 everyone needs to calm down yeah okay sure dude you you're you're the fucking guy who's figured it out and people in you know around the world where they play soccer and it's a religion haven't that's right so uh i arrogant fuck I was suckered into watching that TFC versus Montreal game. Oh, good one. The derby. Oh, the playoff game. Yeah, the playoff game.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Right. And it was horrible. It was horrible. I fucking shit the bed. It lasted like four minutes or something and it was like 3-0. We'll go one game, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I have to remember to bring my bike lock. Last time I biked to the game, I forgot my bike lock. Where did you put the bike then? You know the opening gates? I leaned it against the gates and my daughter's bikes and time I biked to the game, I forgot my bike lock. Where did you put the bike then? You know the opening gates?
Starting point is 01:22:45 I leaned it against the gates, mine and my daughter's bikes, and then I just figured, okay, like it's, yeah, and I left it. Right. Like unlocked. And they were both,
Starting point is 01:22:53 both bikes were there when we came. Well, I'm really pumped for Saturday Night, man. I'm fucking excited. I haven't been excited to go to a game in a long time, but I'm really excited
Starting point is 01:23:00 to go to this game. Okay, I'm going to play, I just decided to quickly play what KJ sounded like when he was on CFTR, because I just want to get myself and the listeners excited about this next episode, 172. So this is what KJ sounded like when I was listening in the mid to late 80s.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Offer ends at the bell. CFTR! Hang in there. Silver's along with a 68-second news update in a few minutes. We also have a traffic update with Daryl and relax. until it's CFTR. All the way up to Submarine. He missed the post there, didn't he? It's 5.01. This is CFTR's 68-second news break. I'm Larry Silver.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Agreement has been reached and the work slowed down by guards of the... He missed the post there, didn't he? Yeah, I think he did. That brings back a lot of memories. You know what? Yeah. When I was growing up,
Starting point is 01:24:00 that's what radio sounded like. Yeah, man. It was great. But they would also talk a lot more than they do now. Like, now it's just like, that's what radio sounded like. Yeah, man. It was great. But they would also talk a lot more than they do now. Like now, it's just like, that's it.
Starting point is 01:24:08 They would have a conversation. You know, they would actually talk, but... They're not allowed to talk anymore. WNBC. Did you enjoy your first appearance of 2016? I did.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I hope that I can come back very soon. I would love to come back. Do you ever wonder, because a lot of people, like I said, a lot of people cherry pick their episodes. Like, I'm not interested in that guy. I'm interested in this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:30 I'm going to listen to this one. There are some people who listen to every episode of this podcast. I don't know how many of those guys there are. Do you think a lot of people will listen to an Elvis episode now? I don't think you're getting any new listeners. But I think there's probably people who. What if they think it's a real album? I think there's people who enjoy the banter that probably have been around for a while.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Sure. I think we have some interesting things to say. Otherwise, you wouldn't have me back. Although maybe you just do it because it's fun and it's a nice break. And you brought me a coffee. I do. Well, I do do that.
Starting point is 01:25:00 This was a very early recording. It was very early. Sometimes I don't wake up by that time. It was earlier than I usually suggest, so I'm fine with that. And that brings us to the end of our 171st show. You can follow me on Twitter, at Toronto Mike, and Elvis is at Oshawa Elvis. I'm going to go drink some Great Lakes Brewery right now.
Starting point is 01:25:24 See you all next week with KJ from CFTR. Great fucking beer. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow's cold. It warms me today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine. And it won't go away.

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