Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #171
Episode Date: May 3, 2016Mike chats with Elvis about this and that as Prince brings Elvis to tears....
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Welcome to episode 171 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything.
Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a local independent brewery producing fresh craft beer.
I'm Mike from TorontoMic.com and joining me this week is Tupelo, Mississippi's own Elvis.
What's up, Rob J, motherfucker?
You just said hi to the one and only fan of Your Blog Sucks.
Yeah, even our moms think it sucks.
But that was the idea, wasn't it?
Sure.
Your blog does suck, though.
Your Blog Sucks, though. Your blog sucks.
The podcast did not suck.
In fact, it came to me in this, like, I was in the shower.
I had this vision, and then I saw it, and I saw it, like, getting, like, licensed or
picked up for, like, a real, like, purpose that's, like, paid money.
Like, I could see the future of Your Blog Sucks, and I was excited to do it, and we
did 10 episodes.
And then you canceled it. I't you canceled because i realized my dream was not going to
come true and i gave up on my dream well i think a big part of it was that you you were like i don't
have time for one podcast let alone two and honestly what is this now may okay this is the
first time you managed to make it to the toronto mic studios in 2016 i know it's crazy i was
thinking about that on the drive over.
You did the Christmas episode.
Yeah, I did the Christmas episode.
And it wasn't Orthodox Christmas or whatever.
It was the other one.
And then there was, we tried to, the whole family was going to come to the Toronto Mike
Studios.
That's true.
And I can't remember why that didn't happen.
Oh.
I know.
I know.
A medical emergency. I canceled it because monica
had surgery oh that's right that's right you did cancel it that's right there was okay well i can
tell it's not so uh post-birth um things were happening that weren't normal and then she went
to the doctor they're like oh shit there's still placenta in there right we got to get that out
yeah she's like get it out man and they're like that's it's
called the d and dnc very common surgery for women i don't think guys get a lot of dnc i've never had
one but it's like that's surgery like we now you're in the hospital for like whatever and she
was overnight there so yeah you can't record a podcast like you know yeah and we were going to
pull double duty that day because my pa was going you know? Yeah. And we were going to pull double duty that day
because my pa was going in for surgery as well.
And we were going to come and see him.
We could have got a twofer.
And then we just bailed completely and stayed at home.
But you did.
I know you bought something to bring that day.
I did.
But you bought something time sensitive.
I did.
I know it happened.
I did.
It's like one of those,
like this is zero to three month things.
Yes.
So it's like, you can't give it to me I did. It's like one of those, this is zero to three month things. Yes. So it's like,
you can't give it to me now
because now she's already four months.
And Mrs. Elvis was,
she's like,
you got to mail this
because it's time sensitive.
And of course,
it sat in my bag and my desk
for probably a week and a half.
Come here.
Dude,
it's so hard to drive out here
and then go to work.
And like,
it really is just really difficult.
Well,
that's why your blog sucks was canceled.
So today works because I'm studying for an exam and I'm working from home.
So I'm just going to drive home right after this.
I'm going to drive back to Oshawa.
For old time's sake and in case anybody wants to dive into the archives and listen to the
10 glorious episodes of your blog sucks.
Do you remember this?
Oh, great song.
My best friend's coming up.
And now, it's time for your blog sucks.
You know what?
You don't come up with very many good ideas,
but that intro song is a great idea.
That was great.
Thank you.
A touch of brilliance.
No, yeah.
It's all me.
It's a really good intro song.
Yeah, I love that song.
They used it for Rescue Me, by the way.
Whatever that is.
It's a great song.
It's a popular show.
All right.
It's a popular show.
Sure.
You never heard of Rescue Me?
No.
Is it on network television?
It was on, I think that's FX.
I think.
Is that network television?
No.
No, it's not.
But it's, you remember There's No Cure for Cancer?
Nope.
Okay.
Anyway.
I have no idea.
I've never even heard of Rescue.
I'm Googling it right now.
It's very, okay, when I say very popular, I don't mean like Walking Dead popular, but
it was up there in terms of like the zeitgeist.
Well, there's nothing that is more popular than Walking Dead.
Right.
So it's not like, but it is like, it's, I would say it's a popular show.
By the way, I moved to a new tab in my soundboard where I kept the year.
Dennis Leary's in it.
Yeah.
He stars in it.
Oh, okay.
See now.
So yeah, No Cure for Cancer was where I was going there because that's his big album,
right?
No Cure for Cancer.
That's right.
That's right.
That's where Asshole's on.
Right.
Which I still know most of the words to.
Yeah, I could sing along if you played it.
No, that would require like super advanced.
Dennis is funny because his name is really Denis.
Oh, like a French guy.
Yeah.
So I just, this, I use this thing called soundboard for all my musical
elements
audio elements
and I have a tab
called your blog sucks
which I haven't touched
in years
because we haven't
recorded in years
and for some reason
this song is on that tab
so maybe I played
I was gonna play
kiss for you
or maybe I played
kiss for you
probably
you're probably
like cause I
if I mention that I
remotely like something,
you then immediately translate that into I love it.
So for a while there, you were telling everyone that Kiss was my favorite band.
Is Kiss your favorite band?
As well as ACDC, because I happen to like some of their songs.
That's great.
What do you think about Brian Johnson, man?
And Axl Rose?
How do you feel about that?
Tell me, his voice gave out or something?
No, no, no, it's his hearing.
I mean, it depends on who you talk to and what rumors you agree with.
But the statement that he put out and the band put out said that the doctors told him that his hearing was to the point where if he did any more stadium shows or arena shows, he would go deaf.
And so he would still be able to record in the studio, but not tour.
And obviously bands make money touring and ACDC, as much as I love them, aren't exactly producing hits like they used to.
No more Thunderstruck.
So, yeah, ACDC hired Axl Rose to finish out the rest of their u.s dates which is about 10
i think and uh do their european tour um this summer so axl rose now fronts guns and roses
ironically that just reunited yeah and yeah acdc yeah i don't have a lot of thoughts on it like i
would acdc is not my jam or whatever, but I don't know.
Like, are ACDC fans pissed?
I think they're sad in the sense that,
well, at least I am.
I mean, Brian Johnson was
the perfect replacement for Bon Scott.
They sound similar.
And this is Bon Scott, right?
It depends on what...
It sounds like it's the version, yeah.
Let's see.
There's multiple versions?
Well, Brian Johnson sings this song, too. Oh, yeah, in concert. There's multiple versions? Well, Brian Johnson sings this song too.
Oh yeah, in concert.
There's also recordings of it too.
Obviously.
But if this is the original recording...
Are you going to hit the post?
Do you want to try it?
Fuck, I can't do that.
I need the countdown.
I can't.
Did they have that at Western when you were doing...
That's Bonscott.
I did not hit the boat.
They did not.
You'd have to...
Old school, you'd have to know the song.
You'd have to practice it.
WNBC.
Fucking great.
All right.
So great.
Sorry, my unplanned ACDC tangent.
Okay.
Do you think Roham is listening to this one?
You know, I haven't heard from him in a while.
Neither have I.
He was our big fan from India.
He is.
He's our fan from India.
So we have Rohan and Rob J.
He's the most Canadian Indian.
Listen to your blog sucks.
Right?
He's very Canadian.
He's like deep Canadian.
He's probably moved on to the Taggart and Torrance podcast with all that Canadianity
and all that.
That's right.
That's right.
He's probably the only other person other than you that think
Nickelback has a good album.
Seriously, you reach the times.
You read my tweets, that's good.
The State, which had
old enough,
and it had a few big radio
singles, and I felt it was a solid
rock album. I enjoyed that album.
You would.
At the time, Nickelback wasn't so horrible to say you liked Nickelback.
And then they released...
Pretty sure it's always been that way.
At least that's the way I felt.
Okay.
Well, I was listening to a lot of 102.1 at the time.
And they were playing a lot of Nickelback.
And I saw Nickelback on the small stage at Edgefest.
I can't remember.
2000 or something.
I don't know.
Early 2000s, whatever.
Maybe 2001. I don't know or something. I don't know, early 2000s, whatever. Maybe 2001.
I don't know, 2000.
I don't know.
But they were, it was not, yeah, I remember enjoying their performance,
and I remember enjoying that album.
You know what this is a result of is CanCon.
The only reason why they were played ever is CanCon.
But they're mega, mega popular outside of Canada.
CanCon, that's it.
No, man, some bands I'd agree with you, but not with Nickelback. CanCon. That's it. No, man.
Some bands I'd agree with you, but not with Nickelback.
Absolutely.
Because they were like Creed, right?
And Creed got played to hell and gone up here, and they're American.
Speaking of Creed, and speaking of ACDC and their lead singer being Axl Rose,
I read yesterday that the new lead singer of Stone Temple Pilots might be Scott Stapp.
Crazy.
Yeah, Creed. And they love God, which is interesting because STP is not necessarily known as a Christian rock band.
But Creed is, they love God.
Will you admit at all that some Creed songs are a guilty pleasure?
Totally.
Absolutely, 100%.
Because I'll sing along at the top of my lungs.
I used to play Creed when I DJed. Can you take me higher? Totally. Absolutely. 100%. Because I'll sing along at the top of my lungs. I used to play Creed when I DJ'd.
Can you take me
higher? Totally.
Some great
tunes for hit radio.
For sure.
But not Nickelback. No, I
don't get the Nickelback at all.
There's a few tunes on the state
that are just heavy good rock tunes.
My unpopular opinion, I won't, you know, what am I going to say?
Well, this comes from a guy who says he loves bugs.
Oh, I love every single, every fucking one of them.
What a ridiculous thing.
At first I did.
You grew to love mosquito-like bugs.
I believe the word I used was not love.
You said love.
No, embrace.
Love.
I read the entry after you said it.
The word love is not there. I never said I love bugs. I said love. No. Embrace. Love. I read the entry after you said it. The word love is not there.
I never said I love dogs.
I said I've learned to embrace.
The subject is love
because I'm copying
the How to Stop Worrying
and Love the Bomb.
Ridiculous.
Not ridiculous.
Every single one of these
fucking midges
have become my friends.
What did you say about midgets?
All right.
Let's get this going.
Right.
So since you recorded
in December 2015, I had a child.
That's right.
That's how much has happened since then.
And that's about it that's happened.
Can we say, though, that you eventually did get the gift and that there were multiple photos posted on social media of said baby in said gift?
There was clothes, but there was also like a doll thing.
Was there?
I don't even know what it was.
So the photos were of the doll thing.
There was like a little stuffed animal thing, and I took a photo of her with that for Mrs. Elvis to see that.
Mrs. Elvis was pleased.
This is how much integrity I have, which by saying I have integrity probably indicates that I don't have as much as I'm suggesting I do.
Which, by saying I have integrity, probably indicates that I don't have as much as I'm suggesting I do.
But it sat on my desk at work for probably a good week.
And I could have brought it to reception and have reception send the package.
But I said, nope.
I'm going to the post office and paying for it myself.
I'm not sure.
That's integrity.
But it's a little stupid.
You could have saved a buck.
No, it's not stupid.
It's not the company's job to send you a stupid gift. They don't know what's in there. They don't know who I am. That's not right, man. No, it's not stupid. It's not the company's job to send you a stupid gift.
They don't know what's in there.
That's not right, man. It's not right.
Well, they're lucky to have you.
I'll say that. So, also, the Raptors have won their very first ever
Best of Seven series. Are you following
that series? I absolutely am. I'm also
following your... Are you
okay? Because you've jumped off the
bandwagon pretty hard after game six
and climbed back on in game seven.
Are you all right?
No, okay.
Is your ankle okay?
Dude.
There was a lot of, there was pretty, you did a.
That's not a bandwagon.
Is that what a bandwagon, that's a thinking that.
You did a skydive right off that fucking wagon.
Is that what a bandwagon, did the flag leave the window?
Did you see the, did you see the window?
I did see the flag. That's a little embarrassing. Did the flag leave the window? Did you see the... I did see the flag.
That's a little embarrassing.
Did the flag leave the window?
I don't know.
The answer's no.
I have no idea.
Did I stop watching?
Did I tear up my jersey?
That's not bandwagon jumping, man.
You virtually teared it up on Twitter.
You're on the team when you're losing.
Like the Leafs lately.
I'm still a Leafs fan who...
But that doesn't mean I have to watch a terrible Leafs team deliver garbage.
Major jump after Game 6.
Major jump.
No, no.
Kyle Lowry and De'Ron.
I believe you suggested they should tear apart this fucking team.
I said.
You need to tear it down.
You know what, though?
I could make an argument.
I'm not going to be like, and I'm going to, Marty York.
I'm going to get into Marty York in a minute.
But I could make an argument that it's better for us that they had lost that game seven
because then they would have done the things necessary to create a proper playoff team.
I say that because we have two all-stars on this team.
They're regular season all-stars.
And I'm not even crapping on Lowry because he does a lot of things beyond shooting the ball
that are important to this team.
I love that guy's heart too.
But DeRozan and Lowry shot, I can't remember the numbers now,
but something like 31% each
for a seven game series.
All I'm arguing is that your core,
your two all-stars,
shoot 31% from the field
in a seven game series.
I don't think you're going to win
a lot of championships.
I'm pretty sure Steph Curry's
going to shoot 70% from the field
or some shit like that.
I'm just saying,
they shot horribly for seven games.
That's all.
Yeah, that's different than saying because of that,
you should tear down the team.
Yeah, I feel like the core is,
it's something wrong with the core in the playoffs
from what I've witnessed over the past three seasons.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
We lost in the best of seven, then we got swept,
and then we came within a whisker,
a pubic hair of losing in the best of seven.
And all I'm saying is,
we celebrate the first round win.
How are we going to do against the Heat?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the core.
The problem with Toronto's sports teams minus one is all of them,
minus one of the professional teams have C-rate coaches.
Horrible, horrible coaches.
Part of my list was fire the coach.
Which is, that's different than saying you got to start all over again.
I feel like if your core is Lowry and DeRozan,
you're not leaving the Eastern Conference.
You're never going to a championship.
This is just, come on.
Do you think a team with the core being DeRozan and Lowry,
as we've seen in the playoffs, could possibly ever,
I don't know if they're going to advance through the second round.
Maybe we beat the Heat. I don't know.
But there's no chance against the Cavs in round three.
This is not a team that can win a championship.
This is a team that does well in the regular season.
And if we're lucky, we leak out a best-of-seven.
I don't think it's that cut and dry.
I think the team can go far.
Is any team going to beat the Cavs in the East? No.
But with the proper personnel behind the bench,
they have the, I guess, in front of the bench in basketball.
And you don't think we need to get one more guy?
Sure, absolutely.
Every team, though, needs one more guy.
Even the Warriors need one more guy.
You always need one more guy.
Always.
Certainly, the Raptors need one more guy more than the Warriors need one more guy. You always need one more guy. Always. Certainly the Raptors need one more guy more than the Warriors need one more guy.
However, I think if you have a legitimate A-list coach in the Raptors organization,
this team goes further than they will this year.
And they also now have finally won a series, which is something that they had never done
before, that this core had never done before,
that this core has never done.
And I think that that means a lot.
They may not win it this year,
but I think if they can get a better coach
and another piece, which they're always trying to do,
then things can be a lot different.
And you never know.
I mean, I think it went all the way to the final two.
First of all, you never know.
You never know.
We could beat the Heat. We beat them three out of four you never know. You never know. We could beat the Heat.
We beat them
three out of four games
in the regular season.
I think they could beat the Heat.
But we're really good.
The Raptors are an exciting
regular season team.
I tuned in for a lot of games
this season.
This is an exciting team.
We win a lot.
We're exciting on the floor.
Yeah,
they set a record for...
It's uncomfortable
other than a game or two.
It's uncomfortable
to watch this team
in the playoffs.
If that fourth quarter is 13 minutes,
I say we're not playing the Heat anymore.
Who's worse?
Who's worse? Let me hear this.
Gibbons or Casey?
I've never liked Gibbons.
Even last year when we won the ALDS,
I didn't like Gibbons.
The media likes him because he's friendly
and he's like, hey.
And he's Gibby.
Yeah, he's Gibby. That's it. He's Gibby.
But I feel like in baseball, you could
get away. I think I could manage the team.
You can. You can.
But in basketball, you're right. The in-game adjustments
from Casey are like,
he should go on Twitter. That's what he should do.
He should go on Twitter, follow certain
smart, not me, but smart
basketball people.
Follow Eric's, what's his name?
Corrine.
He's like a free agent now, I think,
because he used to work for the Post.
But follow like Eric Corrine or whoever
and just do what they think you should do.
And I'm not suggesting to get like a big loud mouth,
like a Charles Barkley or something like that.
Like I'm sure Charles Barkley would jump
at the chance to coach a team.
But that would, it would, like that,
just get a quality coach,
you know?
But don't you think winning that first round
saves Dwayne Casey's job?
Like the fact that we won
that game,
now he's safe?
Unfortunately, yeah.
So I would,
so my argument,
my other unpopular argument
is it might be better
to lose this game seven
so they do the things
we need to do
so we can actually.
I don't know if they.
It's a terrible playoff team.
I don't know if they had lost,
if they had lost,
you know what, you're right in the sense that I think if they... It's a terrible playoff team. I don't know if they had lost... If they had lost... You know what?
You're right in the sense that
I think if they lost Game 7,
Casey would be out.
But I'm not sure it would be...
You know, the Leafs had...
The worst thing that happened to the Leafs
was getting to Game 7 with the Bruins.
Win or lose,
that was horrible for the franchise.
Because it was a mirage.
Because they started to believe.
Which is totally just brutal.
I think this team actually is really good, though.
That's the thing.
It's very different from the Leafs, where the Leafs were not good.
In the NBA, and I'm not pretending I'm a basketball.
I watch and I enjoy, and I know a little, just enough to be dangerous maybe.
But regular season basketball and playoff basketball are two different animals.
Similar of hockey, actually.
And that's why Bruce Boudreaux is out the door.
I felt like Casey was going to get the Boudreaux treatment if we had lost that Game 7,
which is like, that was a good regular season, but we got a win in the playoffs to have success.
I just feel, and we'll see, I can't wait to watch tomorrow night against the Heat.
I got a note on this quick, actually.
A real big, Cheryl,
frequent commenter at TorontoMike.com.
I haven't heard from her lately.
She's regular still,
and she was cheering for Indiana
very badly. Uh-oh.
When Indiana lost to the Raptors,
she posted that she was now
going to cheer on the Heat
and the Cavs, so she's hedged her bets here. She's now cheer on the Heat and the Cavs.
So she's hedged her bets here.
She's now going for the Heat and the Cavs.
So she always goes for whoever.
How is that possible?
She's just a super big LeBron James fan?
You think my ankles could because I was sour on this team after game six.
And by the way, I think everyone was this team after game six.
How much belief did you have that the Raptors were going to win that Game 7?
I don't think we knew they would lose, but we sure didn't know they would win.
We had no idea which Raptors.
70% that they would win.
Okay, I had thought.
But I mean, I'm saying this after the fact.
Somebody asked me straight up, what's your prediction for tonight?
And then I stopped for a second and thought, because I always have a prediction.
And then I realized I could easily see us winning by 20.
And I could easily see us losing by
20. But it was like I couldn't. Nothing was more
than the other. That was the way I thought
of it as well. But I figured it was going to be more
so that they were going to win by 20.
I was pretty confident. I didn't even actually really
watch a lot of the game. By the way,
I think somebody always fights me.
I think it's a lady on Twitter named CFL Lady
who always tells me. This think it's a lady on Twitter named CFL Lady who always tells me.
Oh, this woman.
All I know is at least with the,
whatever that Numeris... Isn't it like 300 million people watch the Argos?
Is that what it is?
And none of them are in Toronto,
which is really hard to do actually in Canada.
So I know at least according to the Numeris stuff,
that game seven of the first round had 1.5 million.
And I know that doesn't, like that's nothingis stuff, that Game 7 of the first round had 1.5 million. And I know that doesn't...
Like, that's nothing like the Game 5
against Texas with the bat flip.
That was something way higher, maybe three times higher.
I can't remember now.
But 1.5 million for a basketball game in the first round,
I think that's pretty fucking good for a team
that doesn't draw well,
according to the Numeris PPM stuff in the regular season.
The Raptors don't get big numbers, which is the whole basis of her argument.
I don't think it is a good number, but in the greater context.
I guess relative to like.
You'd figure it would be a lot bigger than that.
I mean, it's the only team right now that are playing games that mean anything in the city.
I think the problem with Raptor fans is a big bulk of them aren't measured by this thing.
Because not only do they not have devices, of course, none of us have fucking devices.
But I think the way they watch is...
I don't think the encoding gets...
It's just a different...
I think it's different.
It's streaming and it's collectives and...
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It just seems like a lot of people are on this bus.
I don't know if we do it here.
I don't know.
It just seems like a lot of people are on this bus.
I don't know if we do it here,
but I heard in the States that they now measure TiVo'd shows as viewed if you watch the TiVo
or the PVR'd version within 24 hours.
They got two.
I saw those yesterday.
Good.
Yeah.
They said there's a measurement for 24 hours,
and then there's another one for seven days.
Right.
Because they were talking about that Larry Wilmore
who took over for... Jon Stewart. No, he took no he took over no he took over for colbert yes
right and they're saying like trevor noah took over and they're showing the numbers and they're
basically talking like like like he's lost like half yeah he's bled half the audience it's brutal
but they also say that part of that is because trevor noah isn't pulling in right of course
anywhere near the same numbers that john was so his lead-in isn't as good you're right okay we're
all he wasn't very good in in my estimation, by the way,
at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
I haven't seen it, except I just read an article briefly.
I watched it.
CNN thing that just said he was awful.
I watched both.
He wasn't awful, but he certainly was just weird.
He also said the N-word, which is weird, I think.
But Barack Obama was also good.
At least he's a black guy.
It doesn't matter my it doesn't matter
it doesn't matter
no it does not
it does not at all
so you're saying
there's no difference
between a black guy
dropping the n-word
and a white guy
no absolutely not
it's a horrible word
that shouldn't be said
this is a bigger argument
it is a horrible word
that shouldn't be said
you should not propagate it
but we're not white guys
it doesn't matter
we are white guys
how do we
I don't know if we can
make the call
that a black person
is not allowed
to use the word
I'm not saying you're not allowed.
I'm saying my opinion is that you shouldn't say it.
No one should say it.
It is a horrible word that should be not used.
Just avoid the genre of rap, okay?
I did watch all of Barack Obama's speech as well,
and in my estimation, he is eight for eight on those jokes.
Yeah, he's funny.
He's got good timing, good delivery.
He does, he does.
And he's... Good writers.
Yeah, his timing is really good, though.
He's got... And I like how he'll say a joke and wait for the laugh, and then
he'll laugh himself. It's good. I like it.
I like it. I saw a little bit on YouTube,
like, the mic drop at the end. It's
30 minutes. It's a good time.
When he goes at the cruise
about... He called a basketball rim.
He called it a basketball..., he called a basketball ring.
Basketball ring.
And I'm the foreigner.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
He's a funny guy.
All right.
So hold on.
I got to deliver something to you.
Oh, Rob J. liked my tweet this morning saying that I pressed snooze five times when I was on my way.
I got a little Rob J. story.
This is, by the way, not Rob Johnson, who's been on this show
from Chorus,
but this is a different Rob J.
Do we give out his Twitter handle so we can get some more followers?
Yeah, go ahead.
At VineFan99.
Okay, then I have my little Rob J story coming up.
That beer in front of you, this is another
you haven't been here since December,
so you've never been here during the
Great Lakes Bre brewery era
yes I received one of these
I was still talking to them
I had meetings with them
but we hadn't signed the deal
earlier you were surprised to find out
there was actually a contract
there was literally an agreement
six month deal
it's fucking great shit man
that's going home with you it's going to Oshawa
I love Great Lakes I really do and hey Great Lakes Six-month deal. It's fucking great shit, man. That's going home with you. It's going to Oshawa.
I love Great Lakes.
I really do.
And hey, Great Lakes, in my real life, contact me because I might have an opportunity for you to help quench the thirst of hundreds of people.
Are they in southern?
No, no, no. In Toronto.
The core.
In Toronto.
The core.
Yep.
All right. I can hook you up with. In Toronto. The core. Yep. All right.
I can hook you up with my guy there.
Let's do that.
Speaking of hooking up, by the way, Ron McLean.
Fucking great shit.
Actually, let me go down the list.
Let's do this.
Let's do this.
There's so much to fucking get to.
We haven't started yet.
Okay.
You know, I don't swear with regular guests, I realize.
Like when I have like, I don't know.
Really?
Ron McLean or whatever.
I don't even, the swear words never happen.
You don't call him your N-word?
No.
Never call him my N-word.
I'm a white guy.
I can't use that word.
But if I had a guest of color on this show...
Which you never do because you're racist.
One guy.
Matt Galloway.
One guy.
One guy.
Is he the guy who rode his bike recently with a camera?
On Bloor Street? Yeah, on Bloor Street.
Yeah, on Bloor.
Amber Giro.
You're right. Sorry, I stay corrected.
Does Mocha count? He's South Asian.
That's not black.
It's not black, but he's a minority.
I've had lots, because even my last guest,
even Fresh Phil, is Filipino.
Add the sock.
He's a minority.
Did you know he's Jewish?
Why did you lower your voice?
Did you know he's Jewish?
Because it's not a race.
No, no, he's a sock is what I was going for.
I know.
I'm just trying to think if I feel like I need...
Is Ed the Sock Jewish or the guy who carries a round?
The guy whose hand is up his ass is Jewish.
All right. Let's get serious for a moment. The sock Jewish or the guy who carries a round Jewish? The guy whose hand is up his ass is Jewish. I think that's the worst.
All right.
Let's get serious for a moment.
There have been a number of episodes since your last visit.
Yes, there have.
I'm just going to...
This is a long list.
I'm going to just say the name.
All I want to hear from you is A, have you listened?
But B, will you listen?
Okay.
Because they're all going to be no to the first one.
I want to hear, will you listen?
Okay.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
These are since the Christmas episode I did with you.
All right.
Hit me.
Pete Fowler.
No.
Do you know who he is?
No.
I'll just, because I know.
He is an OPP officer, but that's not why he was on.
Oh, yeah, I know him.
He was a CFNY guy.
I know him.
I know him, yes.
He used to work at Martin Street.
Absolutely not.
Stu Jeffries.
No.
Good rocking tonight.
Yes, I like Stu.
I do.
He's fantastic.
I think he's a great DJ.
You gotta listen to that one.
Really?
Oh, fuck. Then I have to listen. How come how come yeah i love guys who cry there's not a
lot of the guy who is the guy who almost cried on your show that david marston no no no no no
he did that was a great interview but um the guy from virgin remember he it was like i i he was
he's a sticky top 40 dj guy and i listened to I'm like, I really fucking love this guy now.
Oh, Mad Dog.
Mad Dog.
Fucking love Mad Dog. Mad Dog's a great episode.
He's a free agent.
Love Mad Dog.
Do you have an opportunity for him?
Because he's a great radio guy.
He's one of the guys
I feel bad for
because he's not a young guy
so he can't work for free
or cheap.
Right.
He needs a real adult salary.
He was popular
in big stations for years in this big market.
Yep.
He gets let go because he probably made too much money.
Or who knows what.
And now, really, it's been a while and he's still not back in the game.
I feel like those guys get screwed out because they want people to come in,
like young people who work for really cheap.
I mean, it depends on how long his contract is for.
He could be sitting at home making some
money anyway, right? But who knows?
Love Mad Dog. Love, love, love Mad Dog. I'm going to get Mad Dog
back on this show. I like Stu. Stu Jeffries was great.
You got to do it. Okay. M. Greiner.
No. There's crying in this episode. This one,
okay. More crying? What can I...
It's me, though. Okay. And I think I hide it pretty well,
but I can tell you now I actually had tears in my eyes.
Really? I'm actually going to recommend on a personal
level. Look, I'm now connected to you personally.
I think you should listen to M.
Griner because that whole episode exists for Mike cathartic purposes.
So it's like I recorded a very,
it was very important to me personally in this,
to have this episode and I recorded it and shared it with the world.
I'm very, I'm showing like great vulnerability here.
I'm sharing this part of me.
M.
Griner, who by the way, is a visible minority,
half Filipino, okay?
Oh, it's one of yours.
You need, yeah, that's right.
I have created a new half Filipino woman
named Morgan.
M. Griner, there it is, number 154.
It is downloading right now.
Do it.
The second half, in fact,
I think you'll, considering you are a survivor,
I think you will enjoy the second half of that episode, even though you might need a box of tissues.
Oh, song.
Do the M. Griner.
Do it.
My kick, man.
Do it.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
It's being downloaded.
Barry Taylor.
Nope.
That's Barry interesting.
No interest in Barry Taylor.
No interest.
No 420 thought of the day.
Okay.
No to the next one as well.
Mike Richards, by the way
good episode
he's a fun time Charlie
he pops some brews
and he tells all
it's fantastic
he's drinking during his
nice
cracks
and this is
good for him
early
not as early as this
this is really fucking early
early episode
he came straight from
his morning shift
oh nice
and he cracked it open
and he had a
he told all
there's nothing wrong with that
all right
you're not gonna listen
to Mike Richards.
Nope.
You're not a CFNY guy,
right?
I was, but I'm not a
fanboy like you.
All right.
Well, Ivor Hamilton
comes in and talks about
the Spirit of Radio days
at CFNY.
No interest?
No interest.
James Duthie.
Absolutely.
Finally.
It's downloaded on my
It's tough to please you.
These are some very
interesting episodes
you've turned down.
James Duthie was wonderful.
You should hear that.
So here's a different Robbie J.
This is Rob Johnston.
But again, this is a CFNY.
I would say if you add Ivor Hamilton to Rob Johnston,
you cover like 79 to 2015 at 102.1.
So if you're not interested in any 102.1 CFNY history,
those two episodes should be skipped.
So you're going to skip Rob Johnston.
No and no. Sorry, episodes should be skipped. So you're going to skip Rob. No,
and no,
sorry,
Rob,
Liz West.
No,
she was lovely.
Hazel may speak at another visible minority.
Yeah,
there you go.
I'm,
I saw the picture.
I,
I'm intrigued,
but I don't think I would listen.
Her very,
Oh,
maybe I got to ask you a question.
I asked this of Mike wise, who I'll get to.
So Hazel May is here.
She's sitting where you are.
We're having a great convo.
I have a question for you.
Go ahead.
Okay.
On my list...
In fact, I always have a list of questions.
Yes.
To make sure I don't miss anything.
I've never skipped a question in the history of this podcast.
But Hazel May is sitting right there.
Her extremely large former Blue Jay husband, Kevin Barker, is sitting right there.
Okay?
Okay.
A couple of feet away.
I now have the question.
I'm not going to be a dick about it, but I'm going to ask her about how she felt when Brian
Burke sued all those people bringing so much attention to the rumor.
Right.
Because I got a cease and desist.
Sure.
I bring myself into the story or whatever.
And then I get to the question, and I'm now about to ask about the Brian Burr.
You know, she had his baby.
I know it's just a rumor, but still, the husband's right there, and I decide to skip it.
Boo.
And it's the only question I've skipped in the history of this podcast.
Wow.
Look at you.
So I don't know if I lose my...
I want to ask you a question about that podcast.
The one thing that I found very curious about that podcast that I didn't know if I lose my... I want to ask you a question about that podcast. The one thing
that I found very curious about that podcast that I didn't listen to was the length. Why was it so
short? She only had a half an hour, so I literally stole seven extra minutes. But once in a while,
the guest says, I have 30 minutes, but she still came and did it. I think I asked you about that
on WhatsApp, but I wanted the listenership to know. Sometimes I have time restraints from the guest. Sure.
Don Landry.
Yes, absolutely.
Haven't listened to it, but I want to.
He's a legend, man.
If you grew up listening to The Fan,
I mean, he's the man.
Yeah, he's a pretty good guest too because he was pretty open and honest about the whole thing.
And he's,
he's another guy trying to kind of make his way back,
but does a bunch of stuff with the CFL and stuff.
But he's funny guy too.
Um,
Kid Craig.
No,
no,
I didn't think,
but Kid Craig was a bit strange.
I actually had somebody else,
somebody in the industry asked me what the fuck was wrong with that interview.
They felt Kid Craig basically didn't have anything to say or whatever.
But sometimes you don't, I just, you know, he's young and he's,
he just seemed kind of young.
But anyway, Kid Craig is on CFNY every single day.
And I was happy to chat with him.
But, you know, what can you get?
Who else was there?
Mike Wise.
No.
Who I saw did the 6 o'clock news for CBC Toronto yesterday
because Dwight Drummond was off.
By the way, Dwight Drummond's co-host on that show has quit.
Really?
Anne-Marie Medawake.
Really?
Why has she quit?
Another, the quote, other opportunities.
She hasn't disclosed yet.
Maybe she's going to go co-host Kelly and Michael.
Maybe.
That's actually one of the rumors I've been hearing.
Yeah, possibly.
So, Mike Wise, you're not going to listen to. CBC's Mike wise ron mclean will listen to you have to yep it might win me uh
gemini again another one i got a lot of uh good feedback on the ron mclean episode so listen
by the way quick story ron mclean is um the guys at great lakes brewery wanted him to do a tour
and they asked me to ask him so like i you know know, so Ron's coming over. Great guy, by the way, we have a great convo. And then I'm like, I told
him like, Hey, you know, not too far from here, there's a brewery and they'd love to have you for
a tour. And he's such a nice guy. Ron McLean said, I don't have time now. He said, but let me give me
the address. I'll write the guy and arrange it for another time. And I think that's just like,
you know, to get me off his back. I'm like, that's cool. Sure. You know, that's a line or whatever.
I would use that line too
and never do it.
He actually did it.
So he actually did contact
this guy at Great Lakes
and he did go to
Great Lakes Brewery
and did a tour of the facility.
I saw the photo.
What a nice guy,
Ron.
Nice.
Cool.
Very cool.
Blind Derek.
No.
Even though he's back
in the news a little bit
because the retrial
of that guy.
No.
Zero interest.
Retro Ontario episode, his second appearance.
Like him, but no.
Lots of hammy hamster talk.
And dear Aunt Agnes and a lot of good Uncle Bobby stories you won't believe.
Do you remember Uncle Bobby?
I do.
Because you're a bit younger than me.
I know.
Yeah.
I saw Uncle Bobby live.
With your mom?
Live, yeah, with my mom.
Did she go in the trailer with him at a park in Meadowville.
Did she go in the trailer with him?
I don't know what that means.
There's an Uncle Bobby trailer on the premise.
It's an aging court, right?
No, he came to Meadowville.
Maybe he didn't bring the trailer,
but there's an Uncle Bobby trailer where the moms would go visit.
Oh, really?
To service Uncle Bobby.
Really?
And what was the point of that?
To tell your friends, I guess,
that you've been with Uncle Bobby.
No, come on.
They had to have been doing this something
to get their kids some free chachy or something.
Well, the kids were there to see Uncle Bobby, I guess.
You bring the kids to see Uncle Bobby.
A mom is not going to go suck Uncle Bobby's cock
unless there's a reason to benefit her or her kid somehow.
The benefit is that you get to be with Uncle Bobby.
The benefit is not that she gets to suck his cock.
That's not how it's worked.
You have no idea how fame works, Elvis.
You're living in this weird world where you think that she actually would want to do that.
I think that...
His name is Uncle Bobby. First of all,
you've got kids, you're a housewife maybe, you're kind of
bored, and you have a chance to be with Uncle
Bobby. I say a lot of women would pick it up.
You're fucked up.
We need to do some investigative journalism
and find out why he was getting blowed up.
Vic Rauter.
Make the final. It's a good episode too.
He's great.
By the way, Don Landry does a very good Vic Rauter that you need to hear on that episode.
Okay, so we're getting some yeses here.
I'm excited.
PJ Fresh Phil.
No.
He's Filipino.
You know, have you noticed, though?
This is coincidence.
Complete coincidence. You're using...
Because I produce some biracial children.
That's right.
And is this a newsletter somewhere?
M. Greiner.
Is there a newsletter?
Hazel May.
PJ Fresh Phil is a trend here.
Hazel May is Filipino?
Yes, she is.
She's born in the Philippines.
Oh, wow.
Good for her.
PJ Fresh Phil was, if you're not, you might be a bit old for PJ Fresh Phil, but anyone
who's like a 90s kid in the city, I think would love that episode.
There's lots of inside like grog stuff and snit stuff.
I don't understand why you're trying to sell this.
No one's listening to this fucking shit anyway.
Maybe Rob J. wants to listen again.
Steve Simmons.
All right.
Here we go.
That's my last episode.
Here we go.
Steve Simmons.
I think this guy is a tool.
I don't like him.
I don't think he's a good writer at all but I'm intrigued especially since you mention in here
that he's going to talk about his relationship with Damien Cox
he does
he actually shoots me an evil eye
because for the second time
twice in the episode I grouped him with Damien Cox
and I got shot the evil eye
he's the Damien Cox of the sun
he doesn't like being linked to Damien Cox
well I think you know what knowing Damien he probably The Sun. He doesn't like being linked to Damien Cox. Well, I think that...
You know what?
Knowing Damien, he probably doesn't fucking care.
But if I were Damien, I wouldn't want to be linked to Steve Simmons.
I will say that the part...
What I've learned is...
You said it was good, though.
Yeah, it is good.
It actually is really, really good.
Steve, somebody I trust, Bloge Solman or something,
said it was the tire fire you hoped it would be.
Like, apparently.
Because Steve just...
Imagine Steve Simmons, if he had as much time
as he needed to just talk in a comfortable
environment like this. And? And he does.
He just talks. Does he say stupid shit?
Or does he just say that for his columns?
Ta-ta!
It's a very enjoyable episode.
You need to hear Steve Simmons. And he was, I thought
he was a really good guest, and he thanked me for the appearance, and he
had a good time. Is Humble going to call me after
this episode now, too?
I don't think Humble is. I'll give him a chance. Listen, and he thanked me for the appearance, and he had a good time. Is Humble going to call me after this episode now, too? I don't think Humble is.
I'll give him a chance.
Listen, I'm not a fan, but hey.
I noticed this.
Sometimes I don't have people.
I'm not a fan of everyone who comes on this show.
Sure.
But I want them on the show if they're interesting.
There's a guy coming up.
We're going to talk about him in a minute named Marty York, who I think is just a big
internet troll.
He just says these things to get you upset.
Is he the CFL guy?
He does.
Yeah, he does CFL stuff.
But he wrote at the Globe.
He wrote at the Globe and Mail forever.
Right.
Yes.
I don't know.
He went to Sportsnet or something.
I don't know where he's been the last decade.
TSN he went to, didn't he?
Maybe.
I think it was TSN.
I'm going to find out what the hell happened.
I'm going to have a real heart-to-heart with this guy.
A lot of people hate this guy.
You're going to hold this in?
I don't have an opinion on Marty York.
People don't like Marty York.
The guys at
MLSE...
Yeah, pension plan puppets.
They fucking rip him a new asshole all the time.
I mentioned them in the podcast.
Does he talk about them?
We talk about the hot dog thing of Kessel.
We have a long talk about that.
He doubles down on the story. Really? Wow. We talk about the hot dog thing of Kessel. We have a long talk about that. He doubles down on the story.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
We talk a lot about hot dogs in Kessel and that whole thing.
We talk about everything.
Keith Oberman made him the worst guy of the week.
Yeah, yeah.
I play the audio, and Steve's talking.
It's like pop a video or whatever.
It's like a secondary audio channel on a DVD or whatever.
We're playing that while Steve talks about it.
It's amazing.
You know what?
The one thing you can't take away from the guy is that he's got a long
fucking career and he's obviously,
you know,
87.
He's been at the sun.
Yeah.
He's,
uh,
he's got the chops.
He's just,
I just,
I just don't like,
and he's a day one or at the fan.
He's a day one or at the score.
And he's a day one or at the team 10 50.
He is really good at what he does because of the fact that everyone has
an opinion about him like damien right and i think that's why both both of them are columnists they're
not reporters in the sense that they are paid to tell us what they think and you know i think that
steve i think that damien sometimes says things to get a reaction. And I think Steve maybe does that a little bit.
But I also just think that he's just, I'm not sure how much of a fan he really is.
When I posted to Steve Simmons, like, hey, here's Steve Simmons and I for like 90 minutes.
Right.
I got a number of people tell me that they're going to pass on it because they hate him.
Right.
I also, though, had a similar reaction for the first Mike Wilner episode.
Like, they seem to both be guys who seem to yeah some people just hate them okay but do did you get the reaction
that you got from mike wilner's podcast where people listened to it and loved it i think less
so like people listen to wilner a lot of people and they somebody said i humanized the beast like
yeah i don't think i had i don't think ste Steve Simmons has been, I don't think I did the same thing for Steve,
but some people did chime in that they,
hearing him kind of talk and explain himself,
they kind of understood him better and where he comes from or whatever.
I think it's good to hear these guys in longer sound bites than you get like on
the reporters.
Well,
good for him for coming in.
Cause he,
yeah,
he came in for,
yeah.
So I'm going to tell the Marty York story really quick.
So Mark,
like I said,
people,
a lot of people are like,
he's so irrelevant right now to a lot of people
that they don't even follow him.
But if you did read Marty York's tweets,
you'd know he incites anger in Toronto sports fans.
Like sometimes I find he does it just to be ridiculous.
Like you can't put a lot of credibility in this.
Like he'll say something like,
like Batista will strike out in a big moment or something and he'll tweet something like uh mediocre ball player
batista is a mediocre ball player you can never win with him or something like that like he just
and he does stuff that you'll say like stroman never can never be an ace he's not good enough
or whatever like he just he's just really negative on anything toronto sports and i think this a lot
of people consider that activity on Twitter to be troll-like.
Because you're only saying it.
You don't really believe it.
But you're saying it to piss off people and to incite anger and passion or whatever.
So, Martin York does that on Twitter all the time.
So, he's coming in to talk to me.
But when I invited him, he came back with, do you have a budget to pay your guests?
That was the reply so
at this moment i get that email like he's asked from him like he's saying just no from him okay
does toronto mike to have a budget to pay guests right right fair question i guess okay no it's
not an unfair question i've never got it before right episode 172 like arash madani didn't reply
with like how much no no i know he's not asking. It's a lie.
It's a lie.
Who?
Someone has asked you for payment before.
Who?
Cheryl.
That's true, but she never got on.
No, but she did ask.
That's right.
It's the second time that you've asked.
You're right.
She was a highly sought after guest.
Wouldn't be my first blind guest though.
Derek gets that award.
That's right.
Look at this.
Minorities and blind people.
Look at you.
So Marty York asked, do I have a budget to pay guests? award that's right look at this minorities and blind people look at you so uh marty york asked
uh do i have a budget to pay guests i think at this point i think first of all i think a
there's no way he's coming on if he's asking that question but i do reply like honestly which is no
there's no budget to pay guests but you leave a free beer that's what i told him nice so at this
point i tweeted something i said for the first time in Toronto Mike's history, a guest has asked for cash money.
Now, in hindsight, he says,
do I have a budget to pay guests?
Which I guess is, if you're splitting hairs,
is not the same as saying I want money.
But I inferred that he's only asking if he pays guests
because he wants to get paid.
Anyway, so I tweet.
I didn't name him Marty York
because I didn't think he'd ever come on at the time.
I didn't want to name him.
I just said, for the first time in Toronto Mike's history,
a guest has asked for cash money to appear.
Okay.
And I tweet that.
And then whatever.
Well, anyways,
Marty and I go back and forth
and he starts warming up to me.
Like out of nowhere,
he says he likes my pitch.
He doesn't do interviews anymore,
even when they pay,
sometimes even when they pay.
But he says he's going to make an exception for me
because he liked some cut of my jib or whatever.
I don't remember his terminology.
But he's warmed up to me. And now we've got a date and time where he's going to make an exception for me because he liked some cut of my jib or whatever. I don't remember his terminology. But he's warmed up to me.
And now we've got a date and time where he's coming over to have a one-on-one.
And I have a million questions for this guy.
Well, you know who he goes back and forth with on Twitter a lot.
Right.
And that's where I'm going.
Rob J.
Somebody else who I won't name sincerely asked me if I thought Rob J. on Twitter, our fan, was Marty York.
That was a sincere...
And then this guy who...
People know this guy, okay?
This is in our world anyways.
He's a famous person.
He's 80% sure they're the same person.
So then I decide to have a DM chat with Rob EJ.
Okay?
Rob J?
Rob J?
And we start talking back and forth.
I am convinced they are not the same person so for
what it's worth in my opinion who has had email exchanges with marty york and dm exchanges with
rob j they are not the same person rob j just is a big fan of both marty york and this podcast
marty york is he's yeah right he there's some of his tweets here mike schillner um he hates the rogers media
guys he thinks they're all shills for the company the mother core heat and five he says yeah um
his yeah if you want to be like if you're if you hate toronto sports i think you'd love to
follow this guy because if you love toronto and you're a big Toronto sports fan,
he'd just get your
blood pressure raised
for no particular reason.
I could see that.
I could see that.
And even last year
when the Jays were amazing,
I believe he tweeted
after the deadline
and he might have deleted it,
but after the deadline,
he tweeted something like
too little after the too low
in the price thing.
Too little, too late.
Jays don't have a chance
or something.
And then he's wrong.
I think he deleted that tweet. But even when the Jays are good, because right now it's easy to jump late. Jays don't have a chance or something. And then he's wrong. I think he deleted that tweet.
But even when the Jays are good,
because right now it's easy to jump on the Jays
because they're kind of mediocre right now,
their average team.
But when they're riding high,
he's still shitting on them.
It doesn't matter.
Only two teams in AL have fewer losses than blow Jays.
What a bad team,
despite all the ridiculous hype from Homer media types.
Hashtag irresponsible.
If I had only a dime for every junkie
and Homer media type in Toronto
who predicted a dominating season for Jays,
I'd pick them for fourth place.
So a lot of that.
And he may, because blind squirrels find nuts now and then.
And every season you say the Jays suck,
they're not making it.
You're right most of the time.
I noticed, like I said, last year,
he had to get a little quiet
at the end of that freaking September.
I abhor reporters who cheer is in his bio.
So he's any, and maybe the allure of my podcast
is that it's independent.
I could see like, there's no-
Well, it's not really.
It's owned by Great Lakes Brewery.
That's right, but they don't pay for guests.
I know, they only pay in beer.
So Marty York is coming on,
unless he's pissed at me for that tweet.
Sounds intriguing.
This morning he discovered that I had tweeted that a guest had asked for money,
and somebody guessed it was Marty York, which was an easy guess to make,
considering later yesterday I tweeted that Marty York was coming on the podcast.
KJ, by the way, from Boom97.3, who was on 680 CFTR when I listened back in the 80s,
is coming on this weekend.
Oh, wow.
Cool.
I have a bunch of Tom Rivers questions for him.
Love Tom Rivers.
Yep.
RIP, man.
All right.
Holy shit.
We're going to start this podcast, okay?
Wow.
Oh, I got a live one here.
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Bad Dance was a cool fucking track
when I was a teenager
I dug it
Do you know that that album was
critically panned
and I think it is
a phenomenal soundtrack
Phenomenal
Agreed
Loved it back then
Love it now
But we were teens
I know you're a couple years younger than me
but in 89 that's when it comes out.
I remember having the Batman shirt.
We're teens, right?
You're like 13 or something.
So don't you think that...
I always wondered as an adult,
because I loved...
This was played on Much Music every five minutes, too.
And I loved the video,
and I loved the soundtrack.
I own the soundtrack, and I loved it.
And I always wondered,
well, maybe it's because I was a teenager,
and it was kind of like, maybe adults don't like this stuff.
I don't know.
Cause Prince seemed to just, he seemed to me to distance himself from the bad dance stuff.
Because whenever he'd talk about songs or release like compilations and stuff,
I always felt like this song and this album were like slighted for being maybe too sellout-y maybe.
Too sellout-y maybe. Too sell-outy maybe?
Can I tell some stories here?
Yeah, go ahead.
So I was delivering newspapers, the Toronto Star.
And part of the deal was that you would also go door-to-door
and canvas for new subscriptions, new subscribers.
And they would have contests and give you prizes.
And there was one, I remember it clearly.
It was a month long,
it was a week long or month long contest.
And you had to achieve a certain number of subscribers.
And when you did,
the prize was a VHS copy of Batman,
the very first one.
And I remember the last week, me and a friend of Batman, the very first one. And I remember the last week,
me and a friend of mine, we were so close.
We stayed out ringing doorbells until 10 p.m. at night.
Nice.
And I got that Batman VHS, and I loved that movie.
I played it till I broke the tape.
Beautiful.
The other story I want to tell about is Prince.
Okay, talk about Prince.
I have never become
saddened or emotional the way I have about Prince.
It's almost embarrassing to say, but when I found out that he died, I was in shock
and I got in the go train and I had all this Prince music on my phone and I listened to
it the whole way home on the train, the whole drive home. I got home and normally when I get
home, like the kids are in bed, Mrs. Elvis is upstairs and I'll like, you know, take my
medication and then go to bed. Took my medication and sat on the couch in my underwear,
listening to Prince on my iPod.
And I must've been down there long enough where, uh,
Mrs.
Elvis comes down is wondering what's going on.
Sure.
I'm sitting on one couch.
She's sitting on the other couch and she's like,
what's going on?
And I look at her and I just start bawling.
Like uncontrollably weeping,
like I feel like I should do now.
And she's like, oh my God, what's wrong? Do it.
I like it when people cry in this podcast.
She's like, oh my God, what's wrong?
And I'm like, I couldn't even say it.
I'm like, Prince is dead.
And she's like, she was shocked that I felt this way,
that I was so emotional.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I spent hours and hours and hours of my teenage life sitting in my room listening to cassettes and CDs of Prince.
He was someone that I never really talked about a lot because it wasn't necessarily cool.
But his music had such a huge influence on my life, and I just felt completely gutted.
And there was just something that was gone that I've never felt before when someone famous that left.
And I didn't realize how much he had affected me until he's gone.
I knew that it wasn't because I had had a couple of beers that I was crying because the next morning I cried again.
It wasn't because I had had a couple of beers that I was crying because the next morning I cried again.
And then today I'm listening to the replay of Howard Stern's show from yesterday where he does a Prince tribute.
And I cried again on the way here.
Wow.
So this is the celebrity death that has affected you the most.
The most.
I mean, I was one year, one day, and one month old when Elvis Presley died.
So I don't remember that.
But I can't explain it.
It's weird, but I miss, like, the music
just means so much to me, and I didn't
realize how much until he was gone, which is so true
of relationships. That's such
a beautiful tribute. I'm not even going to soil it
with a joke. That's how beautiful that was.
Thank you. What a fucking great song, man.
This is my favorite Prince song.
People are saying enough with the Purple Rain, enough with the When Doves Cry.
You had so many others.
But I mean, like, it's just fucking great.
This one says Magnus Opus.
It's so good.
You like that word, Magnus Opus.
I don't know what it means, but.
It's great.
You have to Google it.
And Cream.
I remember Sexy Motherfucker came out.
And even like Seven, like stuff like that.
Oh, Seven is great.
Yeah, you want to see it?
Diamonds and Pearls?
Yeah.
Huh.
So great.
So the last thing I wanted to say about Batman.
So Howard told this story yesterday, which I didn't know.
Tim Burton wanted to use two Prince songs in that Batman movie.
And so he called the meeting with Prince to ask him.
And Prince showed up to the meeting with the full Batman soundtrack.
He's like, here's your soundtrack.
All original music.
I recently discovered on Vimeo,
somebody posted a remix of this song that never got released
because Warner Brothers didn't want it released.
But you've got to dig it up.
Really?
Warner Brothers said no because it was too different
and they didn't want it released.
So they stopped it from getting out
but it's a
cool remix
some DJ did
back in 89
of Bad Dance
he's a virtuoso man
and listen
I get
I get people are
upset and saddened
and so am I
by Bowie
but Prince had
much more influence
on me personally
than David Bowie did
that's fair
that's fair man
I'm gonna be
I'll be really upset
if Chad Kroger ever goes.
I'm sure you will.
Listen, I,
you never know like
which celebrity death
is going to hit you in that way
because I think,
I can't remember the quote now,
but somebody's talked about how
they're like light posts or whatever
or like they're like landmarks
in your life's journey or whatever
and you just assume they're always going to be.
Maybe it's you.
Is this your quote?
It was.
Yeah, I posted it.
Because that's the best way to explain this.
So this landmark in your life's journey, you just take it for granted.
It will always be there.
And then when it's not there, you feel lost somehow.
Like it's like you just that should always be there.
The thing about Prince, 57 years old,
and I know we're hearing stories about this and that,
but when you saw him, he just looked healthy.
Like, he looked like a vibrant, healthy guy.
And that's another thing is that it's not like,
at least Bowie, we heard, he was older
and we heard about the cancer.
So when you get the Bowie news, you're like,
oh shit, man, cancer got another one or whatever.
But with Prince, there was no like, you know,
it was just like a big, like, bang, he's gone. You want me to read the quote and then leave it? Yeah, read the
quote and then we'll move on. Dead reckoning. It's a noun. To find yourself bothered by someone's
death more than you would have expected, as if you assume they would always be part of the
landscape, like a lighthouse you could pass by for years until the night it suddenly goes dark,
leaving you with one less landmark to navigate by.
Still able to find your bearings, but feeling
all that much more adrift.
Miss you, Prince.
My sweet
Prince.
I'm going to cry.
Move over, David Marsden.
Move over, M. Greiner.
It's brutal.
Spider Jones, you got an update uh nothing you were nothing well
how could he i don't understand is he too big for tron right really i don't know ron mclean came on
like does he know ron mclean has been in the toronto mic studios i don't understand james
duffy drove so make the final he's the boy he's the bob he's curling he's the vim scully he's on
primetime television every night.
And forget 1.5 million.
You got a couple of guys throwing rocks,
and you get 1.5 people in Saskatoon watching that.
I don't know what that means, but sure.
It just means curling is popular in this country,
and people watch it.
Yeah, come on, a Vic Router can come here.
Spider Jones can come here.
I'm disappointed in you, to be honest, because you were tasked
with... I wasn't tasked with anything.
Yeah, it's on the Christmas episode.
I sent him some messages.
Yeah, okay, so we got Spider Jones. He responded
and then he went dark.
Maybe he wants money.
He wants to find out what Marty York gets and then he
wants to double it.
All right, fun little
true story here is that there is a
Humber College student,
a radio student at Humber College,
which has a campus down the street
and possibly will become
the very first Toronto Mic intern.
Like a guest wrangler, et cetera, possibly.
You mean you're going to get an intern
to get you guests?
To help me schedule and...
Because this is the hardest part of the job.
Will this be paid or anything?
Maestro Fresh West is killing me.
I want him so bad.
He agrees to come on.
He says, let's go back and forth.
He's like, let's pick a date at this time.
And then I go back.
He's gone.
He's stopped replying.
I had this chat with Retro Ontario.
I don't want to annoy him.
I still want him to come on.
So I'm giving him a lot of air, a lot of space. he promised april he'd come on we're now in may and i don't i don't know how to
get that next this is one of your big gets too right it's a personal big guest is maestro fresh
west maestro fresh west and there was someone else that you really wanted um yeah i can't remember
who else uh i can't remember it was someone else big i can't remember was it was someone else big. I can't remember.
Was it Drake?
I don't think it was Drake.
So Drake released an album on Friday.
Views.
Views.
And Friday night, I'm in the car with James, my son, and my daughter, Michelle.
And we're blasting this in the car.
James is covering his ears because he doesn't want any spoilers because when a new album he likes drops,
he puts on his headphones and he listens alone for the first time.
Amazing.
And I...
I love that.
Okay.
I love that.
Part of me said, oh, that's cool.
But then part of me is like like I have to shut this down
because
an album can be spoiled
this is the first
spoiler alert
I ever got for an album
I love it
I think it's great
good for you James
yeah
he's got a whole ritual
for the first listen
of an album
he anticipates
I love it
he's a big Drake guy
I double click on that
I'm sure
so I just thought
it was interesting
to get a spoiler alert
for an album that's the first one I've ever gotten this song by the. So I just thought it was interesting to get a spoiler alert for an album.
That's the first one I've ever gotten.
This song, by the way, so I've listened to it several times now because I bike to it.
I've been biking to it.
It's the first song I've ever heard off this album and maybe the first Drake song I've ever heard.
Is that right?
No, Hotline Bling.
You could have missed Hotline Bling.
What about Back to Back?
It's this track.
I have no idea what that is.
I'm surprised by it.
Oh, maybe because your kids are so young
your kids are young
correct
I'm immersed in Drake
all the time
we're still in
Katy Perry
and Meghan Trainor
and all that kind of
and Michelle
who's turning 12
is still pretty
I hear a lot of
Selena Gomez
and stuff
yeah we like
Selena Gomez too
who I've seen in concert
good for you
but my son
is all about hip hop
there's a lot of
acts I've never heard of.
There's Joey Badass.
I hear a lot of Joey Badass.
Joey?
Yeah.
He's talking about Joey Badass.
Joey Batista?
Yeah.
And Badass, by the way,
the S's are dollar signs.
Of course they are.
Of course.
I hear a lot of Drake.
If they were Zeds,
that would be so 90s.
There's hundreds of Drake songs
being played all the time
in this freaking house
because of James.
So I listen to the album
and I get into it because James is into it.
I like Drake anyway.
I think I'd like Drake if I didn't have kids, to be honest.
I really like the fact he's a Toronto guy and I like his music.
So I'm listening to the album.
I'm just going to throw this out there.
This is called One Dance.
And I predict One Dance will be the song of the summer.
Really? This song?
You're listening to it now, yeah.
All right.
Not the rock, not the Oshawa rock song of the summer, okay? The pop. I it now, yeah. Alright. Not the rock,
not the Oshawa rock song of the summer, okay?
The pop.
I don't know what that means.
What's the station
in Oshawa called?
There's three of them.
Okay, but the rock.
There's the rock, yeah.
The rock station.
The rock's not gonna play this.
I don't get it, man.
I really don't get it.
That's fair.
Good for him.
Music is like that.
It's all good for him.
I get it.
The thing about Drake,
and I think he's suckered a lot of hip-hop heads,
is that he's the rapper
who raps the least.
He sings 90% of his album.
He does.
He does.
There's not a lot of rapping
on this album.
It's singing.
And he's a good singer.
But it's got a good...
And a lot of these...
He tricks guys
who are looking for a heavy
hip-hop flow
are kind of tricked
into the bump and grind
kind of thing.
Why doesn't he get the credit
that he deserves for rehabilitating himself and getting out of the wheelchair i mean like oh
really just yesterday i post why him and not christopher reef i love this that you brought
this up because in 20 2007 my first wife and i were at a raptors game and we had really good
seats okay we're at a raptors game we bump bump into Aubrey Graham, okay?
How dare you?
Aubrey had... How dare you?
I elbowed him.
And I wrote about this
on my blog just briefly
because I said,
nobody knows
who Aubrey Graham is,
but this is Jimmy
from Degrassi, okay?
And I'm like,
I also bumped into
Snake from Degrassi.
And Snake,
and there's something
in my entry,
this is 07.
Drake,
I think Snake
is the bigger star.
Okay, this is true. So I write this in 07 Drake I think Snake is the bigger star okay this is true so I write
this in 07 I bump into
Aubrey Graham at a
Raptors game and Snake is
the bigger deal but hey I
saw Jimmy from Degrassi
and he's not in a
wheelchair whatever 07
and I saw it yesterday and
I hadn't actually
referenced it since 07
but it was so strange that
this same guy who's at a
Raptors game and I never
knew he had a middle name
Drake and he's a middle name, Drake,
and he's a guy from Degrassi.
Could it be a bigger fucking star?
Is that his real name?
His name's Aubrey Drake Graham.
I had no idea.
Yeah, like he just uses his middle name for rap.
But bigger than Snake.
Do you think it's still true?
The Snake's still bigger than Drake.
You know what's funny is that I have a lot of coworkers
in the Bay Area in the U S.
And so obviously they're,
they're,
uh,
you know,
going crazy over the warriors.
Yes.
And I was talking to someone on my team yesterday and he mentioned that it
would be great if,
if it was Raptors versus warriors in the final.
Um,
part of the reason why is because he'd love to be able to see Drake.
And,
uh,
and,
uh,
I said, Oh, you like Drake? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good. Uh, and I said, oh, you like Drake?
And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good.
And I said, well, he's obviously huge here.
And he's like, oh, really?
And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I mean, he's a big Toronto guy.
He's like, oh, I didn't know that.
I always just imagined him as a Disney guy.
Oh, like Justin Timberlake.
No, Disney because Degrassi plays on the Disney network in the US.
Gotcha. And so we equate just Degrassi as Degrassi, right? Degrassi plays on the Disney network in the U.S. Gotcha.
And so we equate just Degrassi as Degrassi, right?
Degrassi was on CBC, I guess.
Yeah, it was originally.
But we don't say he's a CBC guy.
We say he's a Degrassi guy.
But for them, he's a Disney guy because he was on the Disney Channel.
Sort of like how Selena Gomez is still a Disney person.
But apparently Degrassi was huge down in the States.
I had no idea.
I thought you were going somewhere else,
but when I was in Germany,
there was a young man I was chatting with,
and I'm like, we're talking about music,
and he's a big rap guy.
And as I always do when I'm overseas,
I say this basically,
what do you think of Drake?
I just say it like that.
And he's like, he's my favorite.
He goes on about Drake as his favorite hip-hop artist.
Really?
And then I always do, of course,
I go, you know, he's a Toronto guy.
This guy had no idea.
Just assumed he's American.
Never really, you know, had no idea.
And then it's like, I want to say like,
you know, he's not just a Toronto guy.
Like, he's the Toronto guy.
Like, everything.
There's only a few stars that get to that point, right?
Yeah.
I don't think Celine Dion did because she has the accent, but I think she, I mean, she was like a huge phenomenon.
Oh, sure.
But Shania, Alanis.
But Celine was never cool.
Like these, you know, Drake is cool.
He's got, he's got the cred where he's cool with the young people.
I'm just thinking about international.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shania for sure.
Shania, Alanis, Bieber.
Chad Kroger.
And Drake.
Right? That's the Mount Rushmore
really
right now
I mean in the last
say 20 years
30 years
you said Bieber right
Bieber, Drake
Celine
or Shania
and Alanis
yeah Shania and Alanis
are barely the last 20 years
I gotta get a calendar
90s right
they're leaking into the 90s
90s
it's been a long time
since they've been
a big deal
but Bieber and Drake
are as big as it gets
in the world of pop right now.
It's crazy.
It's as big as it gets.
Yeah, I agree.
Very exciting.
But the Drake album
is nothing special, by the way,
but it did grow on me
and it's a fun listen
and there's lots of
Toronto references dropped in there.
Yeah, well, it was going to be
called Views from the Six, right?
Yeah, forever.
But at least the cover
is still Drake
sitting on the CN Tower.
Oh, is that why people are doing that on Facebook?
Now I sound like an old guy.
I'm a little surprised. I understand you're a rock
guy, right? You're a rock guy.
And your kids are so young, you said it's Meghan Trainor and all that.
So they're not going to listen to any Drake.
He says the N-word. I'm just going to warn you right up to the point.
But he's half black.
You know, he's also Jewish.
His mom is Jewish. He had a bar mitzvah.
Good for him.
Yeah.
But yeah, anyway.
You know what?
I am surprised, too, because I usually try and keep in touch.
And certainly my team at work is very young.
But I just, I don't get it.
I get it, but I don't get it.
I have no interest in getting it.
You know what?
He's got a big catalog.
So you need somebody to say, listen to these 10 tracks.
Yeah.
I could do that for you.
You know what?
I think it's the hip hop.
For me, hip hop is obviously you know old school old old school
and then like don't look and then no no like uh nwa public enemy all that kind of stuff and then
maybe like like i was listening to busta rhymes yesterday believe it or not so maybe a little
wu-tang and stuff from the early 90s but But after that, it's gone. LL Cool J, stuff like that
and then it's over.
I'm not really into
any of the newer stuff.
Drake accepted
I'm not big on
the newer stuff either.
Although,
my son will play,
he'll say stuff like,
the one that my son
plays a lot
that actually is really good
is the Kendrick Lamar.
It's really good stuff.
But he'll do
Earl sweatshirts.
Isn't he soul though?
Isn't he R&B?
No, the stuff I hear is really heavy rap.
Oh, I thought he was like a crooner.
You're thinking of the guy who came out as a homosexual.
What's his name?
He's the guy, he had the orange, the album's called Orange.
And I remember he came out, which was really groundbreaking
because in that genre, there's still a lot of
homophobia going on in that genre sam smith no he's not in that genre sam smith is like your
straight-up pop singer he's like boy george incarnate he's he's nothing hip-hop about him
so the guy yeah he's like but he sings soulful stuff and it'll come to me later every episode
has me trying to remember something and i don't bother to Google it. Anyway, Orange is the name of the album,
so you Google it.
I'm Googling it right now.
I have to give a shout out to...
Fuck, we've been talking
for an hour and 15 minutes.
Okay, this is
at underscore Unionville kid.
I promised I'd give him a shout out.
He deserves it
because he helped Retro Ontario
track down the singer-songwriter
of the Magic Shadows theme.
So the Magic Shadows theme,
which sounds a lot like a Beatles song,
Retro Ontario couldn't find the composer
and At Union Kid found the composer for him
thanks to some good Google foo.
So thank you for that.
What's that artist's name?
Frank Ocean.
That's a good case.
Never heard of him in my life.
All right.
I thought you were thinking of Frank Ocean.
Never heard of him.
Not Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar, the stuff I've heard of him in my life. All right. I thought you were thinking of Frank Ocean. Never heard of him. Not Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick Lamar, the stuff I've heard anyways, is definitely rap.
He's a ghostwriter for several prominent artists.
So Frank Ocean is.
John Legend, Justin Bieber, and Brandy.
Not only was that album pretty good, very good, but he became very popular by coming
out openly gay in that field field of music which is unusual so he's uh you know
groundbreaker if you will interesting he came out in 2012 yeah but he's good too but that's
not rap he's a singer guy like d'angelo or something like that d'angelo did a great version
of it only snows it or When It Snows in April.
I'm only happy when it rains.
No, no, no.
On Jimmy Fallon for Prince.
Oh, nice.
And he was crying during it.
It was great.
It was really good.
Very good.
So last, not last time, but when I had Retro Ontario here, by the way, I mentioned on the podcast that I had never seen Game of Thrones.
And it feels, by the way, I've never seen an episode of Game of Thrones.
I hear it's great, but I feel it's been
ruined for me. There's too much out there.
I feel like there's too much out there.
I'm not even sure I want to watch it. But I say this on the
podcast of Retro Ontario.
Four days later, maybe three days later,
there's a FedEx package at the door.
The first season of Game of Thrones
on DVD, courtesy of
HBO Canada.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Very good.
It's a phenomenal show.
Fucking love it. I hear, no, I hear it.
From people who like The Wire,
my favorite show of all time,
they say Game of Thrones is good.
I know I would like it,
but it's almost like I waited too long, maybe.
No, man.
There's a lot going on out there.
No, watch it.
And it's definitely a show
you could watch multiple times, too,
because there's just so much going on.
So thank you, HBO Canada.
I also need a car that has at least six seatbelts.
This is an important future endeavor of mine.
I need to be able to put the whole family in one automobile.
You got to call up your friends at GM.
Well, I am borrowing GM and Ford are lending me cars.
A Ford Flex and a GM Enclave or some kind of Buick Enclave,
I think.
Anyway, I am doing that borrowing, but I need somebody to give me a car.
Like HBO gave me that DVD.
So I'm just throwing it out there.
Did you know Google Play is added podcast?
You're an Apple guy.
So this won't matter to you.
So you've been living in like an iTunes universe?
Correct.
Okay.
So us Android people
have always had to use
like some third-party app
to kind of do our podcast thing,
and it's never been
as smooth sailing
as you had with iTunes,
but that has changed
because Google,
it's called Google Play Music,
has added podcasts.
I have added Toronto Mic
to the Google Play list.
Nice.
So people,
Android people particularly, but also people who listen on their computer because I find it convenient just in the the Google Play list. Nice. So people, Android people particularly,
but also people who listen on their computer,
because I find it convenient just in the browser,
like Chrome or whatever,
subscribe to Toronto Mic'd in Google Play Music.
And it's a great place, I find,
to subscribe and listen to your favorite podcasts.
Not everybody has kind of gone over there,
but a lot of the big podcasts have, including this one.
So yeah, Google Play Music has added podcasts,
and I'm a happy guy as a result.
Sweet.
Android people will love that.
I was going to tell you the story
when you were going to come in that day
that my wife went into surgery,
but just prior to that, I'm in the car with the kids.
Right.
And out of nowhere, this comes out of my mouth,
out of nowhere, Michelle's beside me,
James is in the back, they take turns
to get in the front seat so i said this don't try to compare us to another bad little fad
on the mac and i'm back give you something that you never had like i just that comes out of my
mouth like sometimes random rap songs just come out like it's like a tourette's thing but anyway
that comes out no word of a line trust me when i tell you there's no embellishment here and my
my daughter were here she would tell you 100%.
10 seconds later,
I turned the station in the car,
swear to you,
the song playing on the radio
is Chris Cross's Jump.
And I thought that was exciting
because it's not a newer song,
it's really old.
Sure.
And I don't know how much play time
Chris Cross's Jump is getting these days,
but it just right away,
it was on the radio.
It just seemed like such a wonderful happenstance,
random.
It just seemed so great.
I had to share it.
I think it's embarrassing that you are admitting
to knowing the words to that song.
Yeah.
And do you know when he goes off
another bad little fad,
he's going off on another bad creation,
which was like a kid kid hip-hop thing going on from the um
the pete puff daddy family of people what were they called again puff daddy was in that group
uh something family i think it was just the family wasn't it was the family maybe so in that
collective of east coast stuff another bad creation was their kid hip hop thing that they were doing another bad creation
had a hit at the time
Moesha
no
Aisha
cause you got the groove
that is in my heart
and I want to get
to know you better
is Chris or Cross dead
one of the brothers
one of the brothers
died
they weren't brothers
they were not related
oh they weren't
no
oh I thought they were
but one is dead
yes
oh that sucks
it's like Milli Vanilli
one is dead yes
one is dead yes
except they sang
the Chris Cross guys did their own song was it Rob or Van that's. It's like Milli Vanilli. One is dead, yes. One is dead, yes. Except they sang,
the Criss Cross guys did their own song. Was it Rob or Van that's dead?
It's Van, I think.
I can never remember.
I can never remember.
That's a great story.
Like, that needs to be a movie.
Like, you have like,
that's a great story for a movie, I think,
because you have these male models
and you have,
it's just a whole idea
that they're going to be the face of this band.
Like, it's just an amazing story.
It is strange.
And it ends with,
there's a death.
It's also strange that they were male models.
They were handsome.
I don't think so, were they?
I thought they were handsome.
Really?
And they had great hair.
They did.
They might have been fake, though.
They had amazing hair.
Like, they're singing.
It could have been fake.
Could have been.
A lot of people, I've learned, and I didn't know this, and now I'm learning.
A lot of people have fake hair.
Yeah.
A lot of women will have this great hair, and my wife will say, oh, that's extensions.
And I'm like, whoa.
I never even consider extensions.
It's crazy. A lot of people have fake hair.
A lot of people have fake hair. How come you bailed on my
hockey pool? Why have you
bailed three of the past four years? And why
do you bail on draft day? Because it's amazing.
I love it so much. Because I'm not going to invite you
next year. Because it's
like Lucy and the football.
I'm not going to kick your
football next year.
Because you're just dicking with me.
You're the only person this year who's bailed on draft day.
No, it's again, it's just a question of distance and a question of how to get out here.
But you have a big heads up that this Monday night at 6 p.m.
You still can't get in.
In order for me to bring in a car, I have to leave my house even earlier than I already do.
It's insane to get downtown because I don't like traffic.
I can't stand it.
Can't handle it.
I want to jerk the wheel and drive into the guardrail.
I don't know.
I just feel like maybe next time you say no, because you said yes.
Maybe next time I should work from here in the morning all day.
You're going to have to do something different because I'm not inviting you otherwise.
I can't have because it's hard to plan these things. You want a certain number.
You don't want too many. You don't want too few.
It's no planning.
But if people bail on draft day, you mess it up.
How was the lasagna?
Great. Yeah, yeah. We had lasagna with a beer, obviously, from Great Lakes.
Yeah, that's also disappointing.
I would have been the only one drinking.
No.
Two beers.
Alexi drank.
Two beers were drank out of how many guys?
Patino and Alexi drank.
I was surprised.
James can't drink.
He's underage.
And there was another guy underage.
So if we take them out of the equation, we have 11 legal drinkers, I'd say.
And they were here for how long?
Two hours?
Yeah. Three hours? And two beers were consumed? And I know. I'm as surprised as anybody. Now, 11 legal drinkers, I'd say. And they were here for how long? Two hours? Yeah. Three hours? And I...
And two beers were consumed? And I know. I'm as surprised as anybody.
Now, I was very busy. I couldn't drink. I was
very busy. I'm the commissioner. I gotta record everything.
Yeah. Very busy. But
Patino and
Alexi... Had a beer.
Had beer. And I was surprised. But my
brothers don't drink. And I always forget that. I don't drink
a lot myself, actually. But they drink less than I do.
So they were two of them. And my wife, I guess she could have drank. I don't know. Who's winning that i don't drink a lot myself actually but they drink less than i do so they were two of them and my wife i guess she could have drank i don't know but
who's winning right now who's in the lead i'm in last because you know why i'll tell you why
i 60 six out of my 10 players were los angeles kings because i decided they were it was their
turn because they won in chicago then they went chicago and it's their turn yeah that seems i
went heavy on the kings good logic well nothing else has worked for and it's their turn. Yeah, that seems like good logic. So I went heavy on the Kings. Good logic. Well, nothing else has worked for me.
It's going to rotate, right?
Yeah.
It's their turn.
I was wrong.
If you had told me both the Blackhawks and the Kings
were going out in the first round,
I would have lost a lot of money.
So I'm out.
I believe it's Patino is winning right now.
Good for him.
Good for him.
All right, so don't bail on the pool next year.
I have Mel from Fearless Fred and Mel,
which is the 102.1 Morning Show right now.
Mel is going to come on this podcast.
And my question to you is,
I have stopped playing the Fearless Fred clip.
How are you going to
deal with the feud that you're having?
Well, that's what I want to ask you.
I'm surprised that you would even allow this to happen.
I'm going to ask you this. I'm not a feud of anybody.
I love everybody.
I would love Fearless Fred on the show just because I've going to ask you this. I'm not in favor of anybody. I love everybody. I would love Fearless Fred
on the show
just because I got questions
for the guy.
But Mel,
here's my question for you.
I have made a pledge.
I'm not playing.
People seem to get mad at me
when I play the Fearless Fred
like I'm poking,
like I'm bringing
this old thing up
and it's like just
to be sensational
which is partly true.
Like I play it
because it's exciting.
But it's also about you. Right. So when Kelly Cotrera was on the show kelly catrera right by the way i feel
bad for her she seems to have taken on bill carroll's spot in 640 without the actual bill
carroll compensation package well but at some point 640 either says no or yes like and if you
say yes make it give her a deal.
Because right now,
she's sort of a pay-as-you-go,
inexpensive resource,
but she's essentially doing the job.
I just don't think it's fair to Kelly.
That's how the industry works.
Industry sucks.
It does.
Why were you in this industry
for so long?
That's why I'm not in it.
Is that why?
There's no way I could have three kids
and have the house that I have
and all that stuff.
There's no way.
Because I'm not good.
So there's no way
that I'm going to be, you know, a John Derringer or Aaron Davis.
Or yeah.
Bobcat.
Those guys don't make a lot of money.
Like, I mean, those guys do.
But everyone else doesn't make a lot of money.
So what do you think?
What is your feeling?
Like a Mel, let's say Mel, for example.
She's a co-host of a morning show on a very big Toronto station.
What do you think she's getting paid?
I don't know.
I know you don't know.
Like $60, $70 maybe?
But you can live on $70 in the city, can't you?
I don't think so.
Can you?
I don't think so.
I don't know.
What if you have a partner maybe?
I think you know what you're getting into in the business and you do it because you love it.
I think you interviewed somebody in the past,
the guy Biggs or Barr,
and I think the impression of the industry
is that he doesn't really like what he does,
which sucks.
Barr.
But it's a creative industry, obviously,
and so I think you get a lot of satisfaction
about being creative
and being able to practice your craft every day.
It beats working for a living.
It beats working in an assembly line or something.
I don't know.
I guess I was just too money motivated
and didn't...
But you're not young.
You're young, relatively speaking,
but you're not like these people.
So when you were...
I'm going to take you back
to the late 90s.
There was still money in radio
in the late 90s, wasn't there?
I don't think so.
I mean, for me,
I also didn't really want to move to Sudbury.
I interviewed Dan Schulman, and he would tell me about working way up north and then being brought back to Toronto.
Why didn't you get him on the show?
I didn't really want to do that.
Skip the spider thing.
I've lost interest in spider shows.
Now, I've interviewed Dan Schulman before.
Get him on the show.
He's super nice he probably would at least answer but i don't want to
risk me saying that i i so i interviewed dan shulman had an hour and a half conversation with
him but i had lunch with elliot freeman and he blew me off so i don't know like he doesn't remember
me at all obviously i'm not claiming that dan shulman is going to remember me, but he didn't have lunch with me. It's a good opening
thing. You can
remind him of that interview.
Oh, and how I want to do it over?
Because that was a horrible interview? Yeah, tell him
now you have a good co-host.
And
what I've learned works is you've got to drop
certain names, and when people see those people
data, they start to consider it.
Let them know.
Elliot Friedman.
Aaron Davis is a good name to draw.
Aaron Davis doesn't get to go to
some schlub's basement and do a pot.
And her husband came too.
And his name was Miles Long.
Which is a fucking great name.
Is that a stage name? Did you ask him that?
Of course it is. His name is Rob, I think.
Is it? Rob. Miles Long. He was's Rob, I think. Is it? Rob.
Miles. Who's very nice, but yeah, he was miles long.
Amazing.
Yeah, I would...
Yeah.
So, please get Shulman on this podcast.
Dan Shulman is a legend.
He's a guy I want to talk to.
It's not going to happen now, though, because it's baseball season.
It'll have to happen...
He doesn't...
Okay, well, it might happen.
I don't know.
Try.
Thank you.
So, Hockey Pool Bailed, Mel.
Oh, yeah.
So, I promise I wouldn't play the Fearless Fred thing anymore, and it was done with it
because it was like, I was tired of the people complaining, even though it was probably two
or three people.
It just seemed really loud.
Maybe you could just reference it when you meet with them.
Should I?
But if I had Mel on, I just want permission from you to play the clip one last time because
his co-host is on.
Yeah, I'd say play it.
Thank you.
Fuck it.
Get her opinion on it.
Maybe she can broker the truce.
Because he obviously
hates her. She might get fired because she's here.
I mean, really. He might just be like, fuck you.
Don't say that. She hasn't come on yet.
You are an asshole. I'm not an asshole.
I'm not an asshole. Nobody in all
these episodes, nobody's actually left here
having had a bad experience.
Present company accepted.
Well, that's different. You're lucky I let you back on.
Come on.
This has been the best year of this podcast history,
and it's because you haven't been on this year.
You've had quite the run.
Yeah, I will agree.
Can you give me a quick TFC update
with the Argos coming to BMO?
Dude, home opener.
First game in the show.
They played the first eight games, I believe it was,
on the road as they've been renovating BMO Field.
There is now a roof, not a full roof, a soccer roof, on the road as they've been renovating bimo field there is now a roof not a full roof a soccer
roof uh on the field uh home opener saturday night 7 30 i will be there really fucking excited um
they are at the beginning of the season they had the um best odds to win the entire fucking thing
wow um they've been you know their record at the end of these eight road games
is where it should be
when you play eight road games in a row.
And so coming back home,
huge expectation for this team to really do well
because obviously you play eight consecutive games
on the road.
You got a whole fucking lot of home games
for the rest of the season.
Right.
And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped, man.
I think that this team can really build on what they've done last season, this season. Okay. And the stadium of the season. Right. And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped, man. I think that this team can really build
on what they've done last season, this season.
Okay.
And the stadium looks fucking great.
Yeah, I bike by that stadium all the time.
It looks great.
And we're going to go to a game.
So are you pissed, though,
that the Argos are going to fuck up your field?
Yes, absolutely.
No Argos at BMO.
Fucking stupid.
It's really, really stupid.
Don Landry is happy about this.
Of course he is,
because the Argos would be without a home.
They would have nowhere to play.
Literally nowhere to play.
What other CFL guy did I have on?
Marty York.
Not yet.
He might hear this and fail.
Listen, Argos, put on your big girl panties
and get your own fucking stadium.
If you were that...
Do you think that's a politically correct statement?
If you were as good as CFL lady says that you are,
you would be able to have the ability
to get your own fucking stadium.
So go get your own fucking stadium.
Who owns...
But BMO is not owned...
Like, who owns BMO?
The city, right?
We should share.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It should be okay for the...
Why...
There is no evidence to show that football and soccer can be played on the same pitch without completely destroying the pitch.
See, I have to plead ignorance on this one.
There's nothing.
Nothing to suggest it.
And the asshole at MLSE, he's such a fucking dick.
He's quoted in the paper.
He's like, everybody's worried about the field.
Calm down, everybody.
Who is that? That's not Lewicki, right? No, everybody who is that that's not the wiki
right he's gone no no it's like the actual turf guy oh the and his quote in the in the paper was
everyone needs to calm down yeah okay sure dude you you're you're the fucking guy who's figured
it out and people in you know around the world where they play soccer and it's a religion haven't
that's right so uh i arrogant fuck I was suckered into watching that TFC
versus Montreal game.
Oh, good one.
The derby.
Oh, the playoff game.
Yeah, the playoff game.
Right.
And it was horrible.
It was horrible.
I fucking shit the bed.
It lasted like four
minutes or something
and it was like 3-0.
We'll go one game, yeah.
I have to remember
to bring my bike lock.
Last time I biked
to the game,
I forgot my bike lock.
Where did you put
the bike then?
You know the opening gates? I leaned it against the gates and my daughter's bikes and time I biked to the game, I forgot my bike lock. Where did you put the bike then? You know the opening gates?
I leaned it against the gates,
mine and my daughter's bikes,
and then I just figured,
okay, like it's,
yeah, and I left it.
Right.
Like unlocked.
And they were both,
both bikes were there
when we came.
Well, I'm really pumped
for Saturday Night, man.
I'm fucking excited.
I haven't been excited
to go to a game in a long time,
but I'm really excited
to go to this game.
Okay, I'm going to play,
I just decided to quickly play what KJ sounded like
when he was on CFTR,
because I just want to get myself and the listeners
excited about this next episode, 172.
So this is what KJ sounded like
when I was listening in the mid to late 80s.
Offer ends at the bell.
CFTR!
Hang in there.
Silver's along with a 68-second news update in a few minutes. We also have a traffic update with Daryl and relax. until it's CFTR. All the way up to Submarine.
He missed the post there, didn't he?
It's 5.01.
This is CFTR's 68-second news break.
I'm Larry Silver.
Agreement has been reached and the work slowed down
by guards of the...
He missed the post there, didn't he?
Yeah, I think he did.
That brings back a lot of memories.
You know what?
Yeah.
When I was growing up,
that's what radio sounded like.
Yeah, man.
It was great.
But they would also talk
a lot more than they do now.
Like, now it's just like, that's what radio sounded like. Yeah, man. It was great. But they would also talk a lot more than they do now. Like now,
it's just like,
that's it.
They would have a conversation.
You know,
they would actually talk,
but... They're not allowed to talk anymore.
WNBC.
Did you enjoy
your first appearance of 2016?
I did.
I hope that I can come back
very soon.
I would love to come back.
Do you ever wonder,
because a lot of people,
like I said, a lot of people cherry pick their episodes.
Like, I'm not interested in that guy.
I'm interested in this guy.
I'm going to listen to this one.
There are some people who listen to every episode of this podcast.
I don't know how many of those guys there are.
Do you think a lot of people will listen to an Elvis episode now?
I don't think you're getting any new listeners.
But I think there's probably people who.
What if they think it's a real album?
I think there's people who enjoy the banter that probably have been around for a while.
Sure.
I think we have some interesting things to say.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have me back.
Although maybe you just do it because it's fun
and it's a nice break.
And you brought me a coffee.
I do.
Well, I do do that.
This was a very early recording.
It was very early.
Sometimes I don't wake up by that time.
It was earlier than I usually suggest, so I'm fine with that.
And that brings us to the end of our 171st show.
You can follow me on Twitter, at Toronto Mike,
and Elvis is at Oshawa Elvis.
I'm going to go drink some Great Lakes Brewery right now.
See you all next week with KJ from CFTR.
Great fucking beer. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow's cold. It warms me today.
And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine.
And it won't go away.