Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #23

Episode Date: January 30, 2013

Rosie and Mike talk about the weather... and Rob Ford, Kathleen Wynne, Mike Stafford, favourite comedies, a CFNY Superbowl ad and how to get out of washing your jeans for a very, very long time....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's summertime rosie how you you doing? I'm good. Hello, my friend. Hello, my friend. I never get tired of hearing that. What's with the 14 degrees Celsius today? I don't know, but I love it. It's fantastic. It melted all the snow. My mom's pedometer was uncovered thanks to Mother Nature. I actually saw all the rocks in my front yard. All the plants that I didn't... You you're supposed to at the end of the season cut all your perennials and snip them
Starting point is 00:00:49 I've heard this yes I never do that and I just got a nice reminder of that there's a nice sounding man on CBC radio he gets a show sometimes I stumble on it and I don't know anything about this but I listen because I like how he talks about it
Starting point is 00:01:02 he's so like into it and he's got a good voice and he talks about you gotta snip that whatever paragloral leaf early october get it before the harvest i love gardening someday when i can focus all my time on it i just want to garden all day i just i love it love it love it love it but i have no time and i have no really garden you just need like to uh to gate up your kid in the back and just go nuts when the weather changes. I did try it a little bit
Starting point is 00:01:31 because I had a little vegetable patch and I tried to do all these veggies in my backyard that really are just not appropriate. Tomatoes and corn and it was futile. I think every food is bad for us now so all we're left that we can eat is like we can drink water maybe and we can maybe eat vegetables that we grew ourselves not the dirty dozen though what's that dirty 15 what's the dirty 50 um i think it moved to the dirty 15 now but the dirty dozen are the vegetables that pesticides, you should, they say, they, the, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:07 The Pesticide Board of America? They are so ruined by pesticides that. But you're growing these in your own garden. Where are the pesticides coming from? Oh, it's different if you. That's what I said. Rosie, rewind the tape. Thank goodness it's recorded.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I wasn't listening. Yeah. No, I'm saying you have to grow your own veggies for that very reason. Exactly. And I'm not a veggie guy. I'm screwed. You? Really?
Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. Are tomatoes a vegetable? Yes. Why do you say that so confidently when all I understand is tomatoes are fruits? You should always
Starting point is 00:02:36 say things confidently. Okay. Botanically, botanically speaking, tomatoes are a fruit. Because they have seeds Horticulturally, yeah, where the seeds are. And horticulturally speaking, you justify that tomatoes are a fruit. Because they have seeds in them.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And horticulturally speaking, you justify that they're a vegetable. Regardless, I eat a lot of tomatoes. So I'm hoping they qualify. Tomatoes are excellent for you because they have good things in them. Rosie, I have a commentary. My brother wants you to know, because I saw him for my nephew's third birthday on a Sunday. I think it was Saturday, actually.
Starting point is 00:03:07 But he wants you to know that when you laugh, you should stay on microphone. Don't trail off. It sounds like you went to another room or whatever. These are good mics, okay? As Stokely would tell you. Stay on the mic. Let the laugh go.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Let Roshan be happy. He's living in India. All right. All right. Hi, Roshan. Let him He's living in India. It's all right. Hi, Roshan. Let him be happy with your laughter. Cool. So I told my buddy, I have a longtime friend, Mark Carey,
Starting point is 00:03:32 and he went to Bermuda with his wife for like six years or something. And he just came back. And I was telling him about the Brian Burke situation that we talked about on the last episode. Oh, by the way, this is episode 23. I never stamped it. So 23, this is 23. In episode 22, we talked about Brian Burke attacking me.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Remember? It's legal. His legal troubles. Everyone agrees he attacked me. And then Mark Carey said, who's Brian Burke? That's what he said. He's a 38-year-old male raised in the GTA who knows sports. And he said, who's Brian Burke?
Starting point is 00:04:06 And I was blown away. Well, I'm not that blown away. I bet you there's... Did he go to Mars, Rose? He still had internet, right? I do find it funny, though, and I think this speaks to the Maple Leafs, that the most recognizable person isn't a player. It's the GM.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's Wendell Clark. But how great was last night yeah it was exciting uh monica and i watched it and fradden who you tell me is italian of italian descent correct even though he has no vowel at the end of his name it's a very racist thing it's not racist that's not race rose that's something else but this is my experience. Every Italian I've ever met has a vowel at the end of their last name. Every single one. And I went to the same high school as you. And as you know, the populace was 60% Italian, 30% Polish, and then the rest of us. The rest of us.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Right? Okay. The rest of us hodgepodged in there. I'm sure I can find you in Italian without a vowel at the end. Okay, if you can think of one, scream it out. I'm thinking of a lot of Italians from Sinatra to my buddy, all my buddies. Monaco, I won't name your original last name, but it ends in a vowel. It does.
Starting point is 00:05:19 That's a spoiler for everybody. It actually has lots of vowels. It's all vowels. You pronounce it like this. It's rosy. You look ridiculous right now. I apologize. Anyways, I don't find it that shocking
Starting point is 00:05:37 if you've been out of the country. Okay, I just thought. Anyways, there's no update. I haven't. I wrote the, I posted the cease and desist. I searched the internet. Nobody else has posted the cease and desist. Even though there's no update. I haven't, I wrote, I posted the cease and desist. I searched the internet. Nobody else has posted the cease and desist.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Even though there's over a hundred instances of this rumor being spread on the web, as far as the internet tells me, I'm the only one who got the cease and desist. What other blogger would get the cease and desist and not even mention it via Twitter or their blog that they got? You never know.
Starting point is 00:06:01 They might've thought, wow, this is from a lawyer. This is serious. I should probably not post it on the internet. You don't know They might have thought, wow, this is from a lawyer. This is serious. I should probably not post it on the internet. You don't know bloggers, Rosie. Apparently not. No, I'm going to frame it and put it on my wall. I'm going to start collecting my cease and desist orders. Well, I suspect that you removing the comment was sufficient for them. It doesn't sound like they're going to. True, but now I rank number one in Google when you search for Brian Burke. And this lady, are we allowed to say her name? Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Even if we say it's alleged and there's no evidence of this, but Hazel May? There's no rules. Okay. So if you search Brian Burke Hazel May, come and see where my entry about the lawyer letter ranks. Rose, Rob Ford is still mayor. He is. I don't have a bell at my new, remember we had a bell at the old studio? I think we need some, yeah, we need some props. We have a bell at my new... Remember we had a bell at the old studio? I think we need some props.
Starting point is 00:06:45 We need a bell. So let me just say on the Rob Ford front that the process is the process and I was okay with the process that outed him and I'm okay with the process that keeps him in. I could go either way. Yes. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:01 I think it's just nice to not... I have to admit, I think if there'd had been the need for a by-election, all that cost to the city, I don't think people would have been too pleased with that. I'll say one thing for Ford in the speech he made or when he spoke to the media after the verdict. You know, he talks about being so humbled. And I thought he did well to mention,
Starting point is 00:07:27 because it is a reminder how so very many people in the city did vote for him. He spoke of how, as he was going through this, people were coming up to him, you know, in the streets and restaurants and gas stations, and saying to him, encouraging him, giving him words of support. And he was speaking to how that kept him going. And I thought in that speech, I mean, I don't know if he wrote it himself or someone helped him, but I thought it was smart. There's no chemicals in this building, Rose. What's going on? I didn't do my Armand Asante. I'll tell you about that later.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I don't know what that is. Beforehand. The Armand Asante trick to clear your throat. But I'll just finish this and I'll get to that. I thought it was smart because as he spoke, it is a reminder that, I believe that, I believe that there were people going up to him and he said, you know, that helped him get through this, that helped his family going.
Starting point is 00:08:16 A lot of people voted for him. I have to stop you. A lot of people voted for him. Yeah, like 48% or something. That's a lot of people. I know it's a lot of people. That's all I'm saying. It's a reminder.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I never ever denied he was an illegal, I never claimed he was an illegal mayor, Rose. He had the most votes. I don't think anyone doubted that. And he's entitled to his term.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I said I was okay with the process. I doubted him as much as I'm okay with the process, the technicality here that keeps him in office. I'm fine with it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'll wait until the next election. I just want to say, though, he's a king of cherry-picking the data that way. Remember the subways thing and he said, everyone's coming up to cherry-picking the data that way. Remember the subways thing? And he said, everyone's coming up to him and telling him they want subways. And the way he spoke about the subways thing was because he cherry-picked this data
Starting point is 00:08:52 that eight people came up to him and said, we want more subways, that the entire city wanted subways. I'm just saying he is the king of, guys, this is what the city thinks because this is what people are saying to me on the street. That's ridiculous. You're absolutely right. And he does cherry pick. But all I'm saying is it's effective.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It's effective. It does make him seem salt of the earth, very there with the people. People like that. I'm not entirely sure that if there was an election, I think everyone thinks someone else would. It all depends who's running. I think he would have been just fine either way.
Starting point is 00:09:25 If you get one viable candidate, though. Without having to cost all the taxpayers money. Is he fine against John Tory? Absolutely. I don't think so. I think John Tory would get enough of the right guys. He'd get the left guys. And I think so many people would be happy that he's not Rob Ford.
Starting point is 00:09:39 And he has a sensible bone in his body, apparently, from his business career. That I think Tory could take out Ford. Wow. I don't, but that's... Well, I don't even know if he's going to run. That's the thing. It all depends who runs against Ford in a couple of years, so we'll see who rises to run. But as of right now, or in the next 18 months, if it were to happen,
Starting point is 00:09:58 he would be fine. Rob Ford would be fine. It all depends who runs against him. I don't know how you can make that statement if you don't know who's running against him. Well, I'm saying, as of right now, who would be running against him? No, but people don't say they're you don't know who's running against them. Well, I'm saying as of right now, who would be running against them? No, but people don't say they're going to run until there's something to run. Like, nobody's going to say,
Starting point is 00:10:09 oh, my hat's in the ring for this non-existent election. Mike dislikes Rob Ford so bad, his whole body is like shaking right now. No, I don't. It's not true. Rob Ford is our mayor. He's our mayor. And when the next election comes,
Starting point is 00:10:21 I hope a formidable candidate has arisen that we can all rally behind. What do you think, as a woman, or maybe as a human, what do you think of Kathleen Wynne, new Premier of Ontario, first woman Premier of Ontario? I think it's really cool. I thought it was really cool that there was both. I liked, I'm happy Kathleen Wynne was victorious. I liked Sandra Pupitella, too. Because she's Italian?
Starting point is 00:10:44 No, because she's tough. There's a vowel at the end of that name. Yes, there is. Yes, that's right. She's Italian. And do you know she's married to, her husband is from Newfoundland and they have a long distance marriage.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Do you know she quit politics and is now unemployed and looking for work? She quit for no job and she's looking for a gig. I suspect she'll be fine. But, um, yeah, no, I think, I think it was really, I think it was really cool. It's funny because a lot of times, you know, you hear a lot, people say, oh, aren't we over the fact that, you know, it's a woman. You know what? No, I'm not over the fact. I'm excited that there's still, you know, a lot of, um, not a lot of women in, in politics. It's
Starting point is 00:11:22 amazing. I think when you see, you know, strong female candidates. And, you know, they left, the women left the men in the dust in this liberal leadership race. So I think it was great that not, there wasn't just one, but there was two. And yeah, Kathleen Wynne, she's, you know, she's already, she's, I mean, it's, I don't think she's gonna have much of a honeymoon period. She's gonna have to hit the ground running and, you know, we'll see what happens. But I think, yeah, I think it's pretty awesome yeah what do you think i think i i like her like when she talks and stuff i think she's bright and i think she's engaging and i quite like her like so i'm i find it refreshing i'm i'm worried about uh one fact that she's a toronto girl right and openly gay and i think that works great in toronto and i'm not sure how that works with
Starting point is 00:12:05 I'm not going to name some area codes but the 705 and there's some other area codes that aren't as excited about an openly gay premier. Well I think she's handled that pretty well by simply saying very plainly she's not a gay activist. That is
Starting point is 00:12:22 not her mandate. She's a politician gay activist. That is not her mandate. She's a politician. I think she just really, you know, that is what she is. She has a partner of the same sex. Done. Boom. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I think it'll be fine, even in the 705. We'll see, Ro. She has to do something that is far more difficult. Ask Kim Campbell. It's easy to become the leader this way. It's another thing to actually win an election.05. We'll see, Ro. She has to do something that is far more difficult. Ask Kim Campbell. It's easy to become the leader this way. It's another thing to actually win an election. Absolutely. I'm rooting for her.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think she's, I like her. And yeah, I think it's cool. We'll see. We'll see what happens. That was interesting, her politics, that's for sure. Look at that, all this action we had in the last week in the political front. Tell me, we've talked about mike stafford before on this show because mike stafford is the um guy who fired freddie p as
Starting point is 00:13:12 his best man and i think we talked about that which yes i love that story it's funny it's ridiculous that story and stafford remember uh i'm actually still a fan like i um typically whenever i if i accidentally tune in, I don't listen to a lot of daytime radio now, but when I hear him, I always find him... I find he's interesting and smart, and I find he's a witty guy, and I like the wit. So I like Stafford,
Starting point is 00:13:36 even though he no longer considers me a friend because of my chorus bashing after Martin Streak's suicide. But this Mike Stafford has apparently ruffled your feathers. Well, yesterday, I felt, was it yesterday or two days ago, I felt that I turned on the radio and I went back in time 20 years. Because of his time slot, I listen to all the, you know, I drive around a lot with my little guy and running errands and I like talk radio. I listen to it all the time. I have for years. And you also deliver pizza, right?
Starting point is 00:14:11 It's my part-time job. It's, yeah, no, I listen to it to a lot. And so I, you know, by fact of when I'm in the car, I listen to his show and typically I find it, you know, pretty good. It's very topical. But yesterday I felt like I'd gone back in time, you know, 20 years. The topic that was being discussed was, and you may have heard of this story, there's a couple in Ottawa and they have twins and they are fighting to have double parental benefits. So basically, you know, right now, if a parent goes on maternity leave, you get a certain number of weeks. Or you can share it, right? You can share a year. You can share it in Canada, exactly. It's 42. That's a year, right? 52.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yes, but there's a certain number. Yeah, yes. So you can share them. If the mother goes on leave, she can give some of them to the husband. So this couple in Ottawa, they are saying because they had twins that they should get double the amount of weeks at the same time, right? And so, you know, great discussion ensued, people calling in, you know, with both sides. It's great talk radio fodder, Rose. Definitely. Because, you know, you could see both sides at the end of the day. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:21 I actually agreed with Stafford. I actually don't think that, um, you know, me personally, I think that if you have twins, the way it's set up, I don't think it's, it's, um, cause they're going to the Supreme court. I don't think he should get that. And remember, um, Apu had, uh, octuplets. Does he get eight years? Well, this is the thing, right? Where does it stop? And, um, you know, when you, and I don't think, you know, he was getting into, oh, you know, nowadays women fertility treatments, 40, you have a 40% chance of, of, of, of having multiples. I don't think, you know, he was getting into, oh, you know, nowadays women fertility treatments, you have a 40% chance of having multiples. I don't actually really think that.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I think that, you know, when you're going to have a child, it's… 40%? Is that a fact, Rose? Well, he said it's 40% of women having fertility treatments have a multiple birth. But I think it's not an income supplement. You know, it's a child birth. But I think it's, it's not a, it's not an income supplement, you know, it's, it's a child supplement. And I think if you are, you know, it's, you roll the dice with, with everything. And if you want to have a child and you have two, I'm not sure that you should get double. That's just, you know, my opinion. And there were people calling in both ways. And he just, a couple of, you know, and I was listening, I was enjoying the conversation and
Starting point is 00:16:21 listening to people's opinions on it, but a couple of comments he made, I was like, what? And the first one, he said that he felt that the, why would the woman want the husband home anyways? I would think that she'd want him at work because he's just in the way. And he wasn't joking. He genuinely meant that. And I thought, and he did go on to he genuinely meant that and I thought and I you know he did go on to say that he has stopped children so he doesn't um he never has had the experience of being home
Starting point is 00:16:50 with a newborn newborn baby but I think when I had my child and how much you know Scott just wasn't helping he was there we were he was emotionally there no emotionally no he wasn't he was not emotionally there he was completely there I wouldn, emotionally. No, he wasn't. He was not emotionally there. He was completely there. I wouldn't have been able to do it without him. The help he gave was more than just help. It was, you know, and I'm sure you were the same way as well. I think guys of our generation,
Starting point is 00:17:17 their dads, they're not just, you know, they're right in there with you. And I was, and you could tell he genuinely thought that having the man home was just you know and then there was actually something else too he's like oh you know the baby the baby sleeps you know the baby's only up for four hours and then he sleeps the rest of the time and I was like are you kidding are you kidding me it was just a really I thought it was a really surprising you know patriarchal sentiment and then... It's not over, folks.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Mike Stafford then said... And then someone, you know, an older gentleman called in and agreed with him. He's like, oh, yeah, I don't know. My wife wouldn't have wanted me around, you know, when he had a baby like 40 years ago. And that was your Nona. No-no.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Which one is it again? No-no is the man. Yeah. Well, I mean, that probably was the case back then, but not anymore. And then the conversation went on, and I was like, okay, well, all right, fine. I'll get over that. And then they started talking about the amount of time. And in Canada, and in all different countries, it's different, obviously.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But in Canada, you are given the year. And he's like, I don't know why you need a year. Anyways, a year seems so long. And then he's like, I'm probably going to get cat scratches over that one. I was mortified. Rose, that's not 20 years. That's 40 years he went back.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I think 20 years ago we were past that point. And I like him. I guess I was disappointed. Joe Carter hit the homer 20 years ago. Yes, exactly. And I listen to it every day. And I guess it just disappointed me. Because you know what?
Starting point is 00:18:51 I actually don't get too worked up about the odd little, I don't want to say sexist, but you know what I mean. But I could tell these were genuine sentiments. And he really thought, I guess he thinks when you have a baby in your home for a year you're just hanging out having coffee watching tv maybe he knows there's no woman listening to his program it's all men the thing is though Mike half the people calling in were women you know women do do listen you know and I think if he wants women to listen anyone on I mean I shouldn't just you know single him out you do hear but I guess I expect here's the. I think I expected more from him.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I don't expect that perhaps from other ones. I expected more from him. He gets a pass because he's got great Simpsons trivia knowledge. You know, that's a very important quality. Speaking of the Simpsons, Rosie,
Starting point is 00:19:47 this is the, I think it's called Frolic. It's the theme song to curb your enthusiasm. The Larry David show that I've been enjoying for many years now. And I wanted to ask you about your favorite comedies. So these are your favorite comedy shows of all time. I'm just going to drop a couple. We've already mentioned them. The Simpsons, Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:20:12 These are my favorites. And then I want to hear what you think are your favorites. So The Simpsons, for sure. I've been watching since 89. This is my show. Mainly I go back to the old episodes. But if I catch a new one, I still have a couple of smile spots and a couple of laughs. It's better than most of what's on today, just not as good as it was.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And Curb Your Enthusiasm, and of course, Seinfeld. And I'm going to throw in just three more comedy shows I've been enjoying the past decade. Arrested Development, Louis, and Flight of the Concords. Flight of the Concords. Talk to me, Rose.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I missed that one. That one was so funny. They only did it two seasons. Is that right? And then they closed it up. It was only two seasons. And the first season was way better than the second season, in my humble opinion.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Those, honestly, that show was kind of genius. Those little musical bits they did were so funny. I used to rewind it. Do you remember the one where... Talk to me. Business Time? Or Hip Hopopotamus? did were so funny i used to rewind it but do you remember the one where talk to me business time or hip-hop epitomist my rhymes are they're all amazing that one's really that one was really really good but do you remember the one ain't no party like my grandma's tea party
Starting point is 00:21:15 he's at a party and he's singing to he sees a girl and he's like yeah do you know i should have loaded i would have loaded that because i can't remember exactly what he does, but he's like, I'm not going to cry. Is that the one? No, it's another one. No, he's singing to the girl. He's like, you're something like you're good looking enough not to be, but to be a part time model.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. And, um, oh yeah. I don't know why that would just maybe laugh. You know, Brett, you're not that good looking, but good looking enough to be a part time
Starting point is 00:21:44 model. I don't have to tell you that Brett has won an Oscar right for his he won an Academy Award for The Muppets oh
Starting point is 00:21:51 you know what I did not know that do you know Brett is and I'm saying Brit not Brett that's Brit Brit was on in the Lord of the Rings
Starting point is 00:21:58 as a Hobbit and appears in the Hobbit trilogy that I heard and I just like saying the word Hobbit I haven't seen the Hobbit they're amazing I heard. Out of the Hobbit. And I just like saying the word Hobbit. I haven't seen the Hobbit.
Starting point is 00:22:07 They're amazing. And Brit, without his beard, looks funny. I have trouble when I see him without the beard. You gotta have the beard. I also love Murray.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I was actually watching an episode of Yo Gabba Gabba, which is a kids show. So those of you with kids will be well versed in Yo Gabba Gabba. And who just turns up
Starting point is 00:22:22 being a robot? Murray? It's Murray. Oh, robot. They have turns up being a robot. Murray? Murray. Oh, robot. They have that great robot song too. Yeah. Yeah. He was a really good robot.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So you agree with me about Flight of the Conchords? Wonderful. In the first six episodes of the first season, I could watch over and over again and laugh out loud each time. It is genius. They're just amazing. New Zealanders, just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yep. Love it. My brother saw them in concert at some point when they came to town, the Conqueror. I think my brother-in-law did as well, actually. Maybe they went together, Rose. Maybe your brother-in-law and my brother are the same person. They are not, because they have different names. Although they both start with R.
Starting point is 00:23:00 They're both brunettes. And they're both brunettes. I was a guess. Because 95% of the world, it seems to be brunette. There's a lot of brown haired people. I'm a white haired gentleman. You are now. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I have hair. That's one thing. I still got a thick head of hair. I'm pushing 40. I got a thick head of hair. Jinx it. Jinxes don't exist. You can't control it.
Starting point is 00:23:22 No. Just embrace it. Jinxing won't make it any worse, that's for sure. So I can jinx it all I want. Rose, what other comedies do you enjoy? I know you like Seinfeld, right? We talk about Seinfeld. Well, that's actually, if I had to, if the list had to be weighted, I would
Starting point is 00:23:36 put Seinfeld at number one because it is amazing. Your favorite. It's my favorite. It's the one where after all these years, I can still, I mean, it still comes on. Don't you think Seinfeld would have been better without the soundtrack, without the laugh track? No, it doesn't bother me. Laugh track to me... Because I like Curb Your Enthusiasm because
Starting point is 00:23:51 there's no laugh track. Honestly, I don't... No, I think... I don't even notice it, to be honest. I don't even notice the soundtrack. I think if... It would have been the same. You know, of all those comedies I named, and I named one, two, three, four, five, six comedies, only one
Starting point is 00:24:08 has a laugh track in that Seinfeld. I'm curious to see if you can guess my other ones. Okay, I will. Say how well you know me. I don't think it's a comedy, though. It's not funny. Girls. Of course it's a comedy. It's hilarious. I'm not so sure that's a comedy. I watch it, too. I didn't see the most
Starting point is 00:24:24 recent one, but I find it's a little it's hilarious i'm not so sure that's a comedy i watch it too i didn't see the most recent one but i find it's a little it's funny but only funny in the way that i laughed at scenes in the wire or breaking bad like the pulp fiction for example or the django unchained okay there's a scene with girls yeah because django unchained there's a scene with uh the precursor to the kkk show up and there's a scene where I've never laughed so loud in like a one minute segment. And it's funnier than any comedy I've seen in a long time. But that movie is not a comedy. But Girls has funny lines in it,
Starting point is 00:24:53 but it's not a comedy. It's like a, I don't know what to call it, a dramedy? Does that word exist, Rose? You're looking at me like I invented a word. No, I know what you mean, but it's a comedy. Because all of my comedies are comedies. Girls doesn't fall in the same category. It's like comedy.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Okay, you need to think outside the box. Although Louis has some dark moments. Exactly. You need to think outside the box a little bit. It's not 20 years ago. Shows can be funny and still have dramatic moments. True, but this topic is favorite comedy shows. Shows, but we could say it's shows that make us laugh more than make us cry.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So girl, I would say girls. Girls. Absolutely. Sex in the City. Yes. Okay, you're such a girl. I'm going to pick another girl one. That's funny, okay? You're going to say
Starting point is 00:25:30 Cougar Town. I am so offended right now. I think girls like that show. I'm doing everything I can to not get up and leave. Okay, don't leave because I need you to help pull this out. No, Cougar Town. First of all, it looks horrible.
Starting point is 00:25:44 You haven't seen it, yet you're judging it. No. Cuckoo Town. No. First of all, it looks horrible. Okay, I'm sorry. I thought, well, you haven't seen it, yet you're judging it. Yes. Interesting. That's correct. I just remembered the girl Seinfeld,
Starting point is 00:25:50 and this is for sure what you're going to say. I'm offended by the title of it. Friends. No. What?
Starting point is 00:25:55 I've never met a It's like you've never met me. Okay. It's like you've just met me today. Hold on. Is it any of the
Starting point is 00:26:00 shows I've mentioned? No. Okay. I'm going to tell you, I think you're going to say Larry Sanders show, which I loved as well. That's a good one too. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Mike's not doing very well. Dream on. We're going to move on. Remember Dream on? Do you remember Dream on? We were in high school and Dream on was an HBO show and it had boobies in it. And I remember the big deal was it was funny.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I liked it. But it was like contraband. Like if you could catch this thing. It's not like I could. If you could say contraband Like if you could catch this thing. It's not like I could. If you could say contraband. If you could catch Dream On. Not only is it kind of funny, you might see boobs. It's really funny because Scott always says, he goes, you know, he goes, when I was 14,
Starting point is 00:26:36 he goes, it was really hard to see boobs. You had to work at it if you wanted to see boobs. You had to have magazines. Exactly. VHS tapes. Exactly. He goes, nowadays, it is very easy to see boobies. Kids are going to be so dissent.
Starting point is 00:26:47 My kid has seen more boobs already because we watched Flight the other day. For sure. In the first scene of Flight, this naked lady is walking around the room. It's nudity for the first two minutes of Flight. And I'm looking at him, and he's got this smile on his face. And I'm like, oh, that's the luckiest 11-year-old on the planet. Yeah. And they're just right there.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's full frontal. The bum, everything's there. And you know what I noticed,, the bum, everything's there. And you know what I noticed too? Nowadays, boobs are everywhere. You don't even need to even really look. But nowadays in shows, you see a lot of full frontal. Male?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Mm-hmm. More than you would have ever. Did you ever watch Oz? No, I didn't watch Oz. I saw more sausage in Oz than I did in all my years of dressing rooms for hockey and stuff. There's an episode. I know I'm always talking about girls, but I'm just really into it right now. Last season.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Oh, you saw Adam's wiener. Well, no, not Adam's wiener. Whistle. Whistle. Her father. There's a scene where he's having sex with her mother in the shower. It's like so funny. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:43 That's Peter Scolari from bosom buddies exactly i knew her that's great he's such a great actor and he almost as great as the other guy in bosom buddies who didn't have such a good career i can't remember his name he didn't have his anyways he slips in the shower and he falls and he's completely oh god the whistle was out and but it's like but it was like you know old man bumming whistle. It was not very attractive. When you see like a foreign whistle on the screen, do you compare it to your husband's whistle? No.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Is there any compare, like contrast in your head? No, it's just looking, it's just like, you know. It's just another whistle. Do you compare boobs to your partner's? Of course. I just, of course. Okay, girl, I think, yeah, that's, I don't. It's just more, it was more surprising.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It was like, oh, cause you know, boobs, you're so used to seeing them, but it's still a little bit, you see a whistle, you're like, whoa, there's like, that's a whistle. Right there. Yep. How long will you call a whistle? At what point? I don't want to talk about whistles anymore. At what point do you start calling it a penis?
Starting point is 00:28:41 I don't know. I haven't decided. I haven't decided yet. He's just so cute. Everything's so cute. I know. He's only three. Or no, he's two. He't decided yet. He's just so cute. Everything's so cute. I know. He's only three. No, he's two.
Starting point is 00:28:46 He's almost three. He'll be three soon. Same age as Nate. Yep. Will and Grace. Oh, my gosh. I forgot about that show. I'm so surprised.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Oh, and I forgot about Frasier. That's your other show, right? No. Because that's a smart person show. I did like it, but it wasn't one of my top ones. That was like Three's Company for intelligent people. Frasier was hilarious, but I don't, yeah, it's... Okay, Will and Grace, which I never watched.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I can't tell you if it was good or not. Will and Grace was awesome. Will and Grace for its time was... Was it as good as Suddenly Susan? So advanced. Right now, it is like you're playing a game. Can you name the worst shows ever? I'm thinking of that Thursday night lineup
Starting point is 00:29:23 when they used to stick the crap shows between like Seinfeld and ER that's right oh my god I miss ER so much I was so into ER can I tell you ER real quick I watched it every week until Mark Green died and I never watched it again
Starting point is 00:29:36 and that was like halfway through the run when Mark Green died ER lost its soul it was really really hard to get past Mark green dying he was i don't know you can tell me john stamos was on that show but i wouldn't know you know i haven't you know i didn't i didn't um i watched it for a long time but that's a long time to get to mark green's death i loved it i loved it too rose i loved it too um we're back agreeing with each other creation doctor he was so cute he came at the though. I don't remember too much of him because him and his,
Starting point is 00:30:07 in the Venn diagram of him and Mark Green. Luca and Mark Green don't overlap very much. But Mark Green was. I like Nurse Halfway. And I liked the, of course, Dr. Ross. Amazing. I love Dr. Ross. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:18 He didn't have much of a career after that either, Rose. No, he really sort of peed her out, didn't he? Just like that bosom buddy guy. These guys try to become, these guys, I'm tired of these guys, these TV stars, you really sort of figured that out, didn't you? Just like that bosom buddy guy. These guys try to become, these guys, I'm tired of these guys, these TV stars thinking they become movie stars.
Starting point is 00:30:28 The bosom buddy guy struck out. This guy from ER struck out. It's like the Saturday Night Live. The NYPD blue guy struck out. Yeah, it's like the Saturday Night Live people. It's, you know, they go and they make
Starting point is 00:30:38 one terrible movie based on, you know, a skit that was kind of funny and then they disappeared. It's like, oh, you should have just stayed on SNL, you know. But I watched it most recently and I saw Andy Samberg had come back
Starting point is 00:30:51 and he'd done one of his digital shorts with the host of the Maroon 5. Adam Levine. The Maroon 5 guy, yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah. And I was like, why aren't you just doing digital shorts full time? That's your funny thing. Where are you now? I haven't seen him at all since he left.
Starting point is 00:31:03 No, he was in that Adam Sandler movie that I actually was surprised how much I liked it because I thought it would be like a horrible movie and I didn't mind it. It started bad and then it got better. It was like he was the dad. Adam Sandler was the father of Adam Sandberg. That's hilarious. And he impregnated his teachers. So he had a kid when he was 15 and then he needed to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Sounds terrible. They reunite. It was the worst movie ever uh i don't know why i think i was i wasn't high but there's something going on where i was i just loved it and i think it was the mood i was in but anyway i would never recommend it to somebody because i'm a lot of tomatoes it's probably at like 12 or something i know what you mean though it's like when i saw that movie that hockey movie goon oh my gosh i cannot believe how much i laughed and i i was like, this is ridiculous. How am I laughing so hard? No. I don't know, Rose, about your private life. I don't know what you're growing in your garden. That you don't. Rose, I just checked the time. This is amazing. We need to talk about the Super Bowl really quick. I just need a prediction so it's captured here.
Starting point is 00:31:59 The Ravens are taking on the 49ers on Sunday. Just give me a prediction. I'm going to save my prediction for when you have on your website, like you did last year. I remember you asked for predictions. Oh, good idea. I'll do that again. Do it again. And last year I won, if you remember correctly. I do remember that.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And I was disqualified because you said I didn't get my prediction in quick enough. Did you make the prediction before the game started? No. That's the problem, Rose. You cannot make a prediction and a score after the game starts. You've seen a tone of the game. You've watched enough to get a vibe. No, Rose, please.
Starting point is 00:32:31 You're smarter than that. Admit that you were impressed that I got it. I'm impressed. I'd be more impressed if you made a prediction before the game started. Well, you got me there. Thank you. Can I play a little clip of Scott Turner from the old CFNY talking about the Super Bowl? Just because we did play that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 What did we play? We played Chris Shepard. And a lot of people enjoyed the flashbacks. Yeah, that was awesome. So listen to this, Rose. CFNY's Department of Things You Plug Into the Wall regrets to announce that this coming Super Bowl Sunday, your TV set will be on the fritz.
Starting point is 00:33:02 What? Coincidentally, CFNY's Department of Stuff You Hear in the Air Sundays at 1 p.m. is pleased to announce a Super Bowl Sunday Music Magazine All-Star Sports Special. Scott Turner will call the big shots of the sports world, talk about game predictions, play their requests, and some other sports-related music. Super Bowl Sunday Music Magazine All-Star Sports Special, beginning at 1 p.m., following which we'll send someone over to fix your TV, really.
Starting point is 00:33:33 There you go. There's a little retro flashback of Scott Turner. Cool. Yes, it is cool. And I was going to ask you about how to get out of washing my jeans because I don't like to wash my... I only have one pair of jeans that really fits. It doesn't even fit that much because I lost a lot of weight and my waist is something ridiculous size now, like 31 inches or something. So I have to use a belt, but I don't like washing these jeans.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Tell me how I can get out of washing my jeans for a very long time. Well, recently I discovered Yes? Raw denim, which is and it's actually funny, there was a one of your open mics on your website a conversation struck up and it kind of just came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Everyone was talking about jeans and they were talking about you know, the type of jeans they buy and what kind of stain would qualify you having to wash it. And I forgot who... Fecal matter. It was, you know, I think that that's a given that, you know, I don't think anyone really needed to put that down. But, you know, a coffee stain, you know, does a coffee stain warrant having to wash them? I would say no.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I would say yes, but go on. But one of your commenters posted a link, which was a really great article, about Anderson Cooper. He does not wash his jeans. Just like me. He doesn't wash his jeans because he buys APC jeans, which are quite expensive,
Starting point is 00:35:01 but, and I do believe this, because I'm a frugal girl, you can justify an expensive garment if your cost per wear is very low. And I think with jeans, we wear our jeans so much that that is an item of clothing where... How much are we talking about, Rose?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Well, ABCs for men... Over 50 bucks? Yeah. Because you lost me. You're hilarious. Tell me what we're talking about. I need a frame of reference. A pair of raw denim jeans.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And raw denim is basically denim that it's dry. So it's very stiff. And you wear them over and over. You're not supposed to wash them because you're meant to break them in. Throw me a price, Rose. You're like an infomercial here. I'm dying to know the price of these jeans.
Starting point is 00:35:44 For a man, they're going to be over $200. Okay. So they're over $200. Like we could actually maybe get to $250 here. Easily. Wow. Yeah. Now, I wanted a pair.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I'll just buy five pairs of my regular jeans. Yeah. But the thing is that, you know, anyways, I wanted a pair. I'm not the target audience for you. Being a frugal person, I managed to find them, you know, kind of a boxing day thing on sale. So I am doing, I am totally doing the raw denim thing, not washing them for six months, wearing them every day, see how it goes. I'm actually going to take a picture of them, put them on my website, mytorontoscoop.com.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Okay, mytorontoscoop.com. So we will see my jeans at the beginning of the raw denim journey and then at the end so even though they're expensive because you you actually are supposed to wear them every single day um they they they kind of pay for themselves so not only should we be supposed to watch like you should not it's not that you shouldn't wash them you're not supposed to wash them so the new diet so you So you can have water, raw vegetables, and raw genes, if I'm understanding this correctly. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Everything's raw and natural. Rose, last week we talked about your many useless university degrees. Yep. And then the study came out that said Canada is the most educated country in the world, with 51% of us having either a college diploma or a university degree. So post-high school something. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:11 51%. And my question is related to your degrees. Did you require an OSAP loan to pay for your education? I did not use OSAP, no. Okay. Did you? education? I did not use OSAP, no. Okay. Did you? No, I did not. I did not, but my girlfriend slash wife at the time did require OSAP.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'm not sure she's finished paying for that yet. I just wondered. What I did was I worked at the grocery store, and I worked very hard and saved as best I could. And because I was able to, uh, well, I lived at home and then I lived on my own, but I didn't live on campus anywhere. So I was able to make, pay, pay a hundred percent of my, my own, uh, like no one gave me any money. Did you get help from a father or mother or rich uncle? My, my family, yeah, my family helped me with my tuition.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's cheating. And then I worked. You just cheated. Nobody didn't need OSAP. They were your OSAP. Well, yeah, I never said. I know. That's why I'm asking. I'm trying to be like Michael Enright. I'm not sure what your point is. I think parents should help. I mean, I'm going to help
Starting point is 00:38:20 if I have the means. I don't know if it's a should or could. So you did not need OSAP. But I didn't you know i i worked and i paid for i paid for all my my bucks and all my you know i didn't get everything i thought you're trying to make it seem like i was some spoiled no no no it certainly wasn't i'm saying that i'm just wondering if my family of course yeah my family you know helped and my my family was really proud to to be able no i'm not saying that i not saying that. I'm saying that if you get help from a family member,
Starting point is 00:38:49 you will not require OSAP. I just wondered how many... I don't know why that's cheating. Why is that cheating? No, it's not cheating. It's not cheating. It explains why you wouldn't require a loan because you're getting free money, which is fine. I wondered because I read a study about
Starting point is 00:39:02 how many students, surprising number of students will take OSAP loans and then will usually blow the OSAP loan on like a car or their iPad or whatever. Or vacations. Or vacate, yeah, Cancun vacations or whatever. Yeah, I knew a few people during that time that took trips with the money. But I mean, you have to pay it back. Yeah, is there a misconception? Do you think at the time, I think, is there a misconception? Do you think at the time,
Starting point is 00:39:25 I think, is there a misconception that a lot of this loan will be forgiven? No, I think it's just people living in the moment and not really caring. I think it seems so.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Why do I remember like an urban legend that, I never got OSAP, but I remember an urban legend potentially floating around in like the early 90s that you won't have
Starting point is 00:39:40 to pay it all back because they forgive a lot of it. I remember this floating around. We didn't have internet to research this. The friends I know that had to pay it, they had to pay it all back because they forgive a lot of it. I remember this floating around. We didn't have internet to research this. The friends I know, they had to pay it back. They didn't have to. One is still paying it back.
Starting point is 00:39:52 One just recently finished, and we graduated 10 years ago. A lot more than that, Rose. I think it's 15 years ago. Oh, my God. Yeah, so no, I never heard that, and I don't know anybody who had their OSAP forgiven. My God, my one girlfriend, she had so much to pay back. Because she didn't have any family help.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Do I have to pay you back for the Tim Hortons coffee you brought me this morning? There's a running tab going. I'll give you an invoice at the end of the year. Do you know it's 14 degrees Celsius outside right now? It's gorgeous. I love it. But by the time I post this, I suspect it'll be like minus 10 or something. That's okay. That's cool. So should I go outside and frolic in my shorts?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I wouldn't do shorts. You don't want to be that guy, but you should definitely go outside. But I am. Rose, I am that guy. That you are. So thus concludes episode 23. Thanks for listening and spending time with us and i hope you join us for episode 24 which will probably be equally as epic bye everybody I want to take a streetcar downtown Read Andrew Miller and wander around

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