Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #93

Episode Date: October 27, 2014

Mike and Elvis discuss Jian Ghomeshi, future guests, TFC, the birth of Charles, and call Toronto's 2014 municipal election.

Welcome to the 93rd episode of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, often with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from torontomic.com and joining me this week is my buddy Elvis. What's up, Mike? Good to be back. It's been a while. How long has it been since you dropped in for one of these? It's funny. We keep going through these spurts. It's like I'll do like 17 episodes in a row and then not be around for three years.

You know, I've been having to replace you with these schlubs like Mad Dog. Mad Dog, which is not as we, as I did a little bit of investigative journalism, and he's not, what's his, Jay Mad Dog Michaels? Was your investigative journalism that you listened to episode 92? No, no, no, no. Of course I didn't listen. My wife listened to, Mrs. Elvis listened to Jay Mad Dog Michaels. But Mad Dog is not Mad Dog as in two words, capital N. Oh, that I know.

I did. I did. If you go to his Twitter page, he is JMadDogMichaels as though Mad Dog is a middle name and it's all one word. Can I tell you when I initially wrote the XML and everything I had Mad Dog as two words and then I discovered this. Did you tell me?

Yeah, because it was still on your blog when I saw it that way. Then I changed it. I you tell me? Yeah, because it was still on your blog when I saw it that way. Then I changed it. Yeah. Because I always aim for accuracy. I guess that's what you do. I know that Mrs. Elvis listened and told me a little bit about the name and whatnot. And I guess it was presented to him when he was early on in his career.

And they said, do you want to be a 40-year-old guy and be called Mad Dog? And he said, yeah, sure. So now he's that 40-year-old guy being called Mad Dog. And I guess his way of maybe making it a little bit more palatable for people is to make it one word make it one word and make it seem as though that's a name like yeah that was on his which i guess is you know what no more i think about it i guess it's kind of clever no to me you've done something silly and you've made it sillier like at least if you're gonna be mad dog let us be able to spell it right you know what know what I mean? Well, it's the same. It's just all one word.

What's that? What does the fox say? Yeah. He's Elvis, right? Like, he's the I'm Elvis. Right. But no, you're spelling it in some strange way where you just made a silly thing sillier. Well, I am Elvis and you always make this mistake.

I know. I capitalize the E. Right. I am Elvis with a small E. I respect that part of your right tribute that's fine because elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me all right mad dog anyway mrs elvis listened and she said it was uh she said it was really inside inside she said it was really inside radio podcast so part of it she didn't really care but she said it was a

good episode see it was really inside baseball because that's what I like. And you like too. But I think that's because there's no sponsor here and there's no money anywhere that it's like... What? Yeah, if you're going to have Mad Dog in your basement... Cheryl's never getting here. Write this down.

Yeah, Cheryl, that's funny. Write this down. If you're going to have Mad Dog in your basement, don't even finish that sentence. You know where I'm going with this. I'm going to do what I want with Mad Dog. As you know, I listen to every episode, and that was 92. So I listened again to 92 afterwards. Honestly, I had lived it. I was in the room in real time, and I found it compelling

to listen to it again. And I was there. Mrs. Elvis said it was good. What episode are we on right now? 93. 93. Wow, so we're the first one after Mad Dog. This is a whole new audience tuning in because there was a popular radio forum. They call it the Yellow Board.

I would like to thank Mad Dog because apparently at some point in time, you mentioned me in your podcast with him and he acknowledged that he knew who I was. Oh, from London Radio. Because apparently at some point in time, you mentioned me in your podcast with him. And he acknowledged that he knew who I was. Oh, from London Radio. And knew who I was in the sense that he had heard, I guess, had heard me on a podcast previously or heard you made mention of me. And that was an amazing moment in my marriage with Mrs. Elvis. Oh, really?

That got you points. Major points. Come on. Okay, I want to get into Mrs. Elvis because... Is he on Virgin? Is he on... Virgin, yeah. Yeah, he's a radio DJ. He leads into Ryan Seacrest. And he knows who Elvis...

It'd be nice if he actually knew who I really was. I'll take Elvis. I learned a lot since the Mad Dog episode. I learned who's listening, okay? Mad Dog, sincerely, like Aaron Davis, for example, she listens to this show. Amazing. I davis for example she listens to this show amazing i don't know if she listens to the elvis episode right because there's two crowds i notice now developing there's the i like the podcast and what mike does with elvis and what whoever's on

and they listen to everything and then there's the right if i like the guest i'm tuning in because mike's gonna go inside baseball and it's gonna be interesting that the yellow board people listen to the the when you have the special guests todd shapiro alan cross right and then the the stokely's and the stokely's will listen to everything but they'll they'll also listen to the ones that we just stokely has to listen everything so to make sure it sounds proper which it doesn't but whatever thanks for nothing stokely yeah speaking of that i was watching fox world Series the other day, and the audio was twice. So you could hear it in the background, and then you heard it in the foreground, like an echo effect. That must drive him bonkers.

He said he was busy doing some curling thing or something. But then the video matched up with the initial echo-y. So the video matched up with the initial audio, and then there's a background audio, then a foreground like a millisecond later, like this echo thing. And then they fixed it by getting rid of the second audio. No, they got rid of the first audio, but the picture was syncing with that audio.

So anyway, it was just a bunch of clusterfuck. And sometimes, like last night, I'm watching the World Series, and the guy will talk as if there's scenes being shown on the screen but they're not showing it i can't tell if that's like a sports direct that's a director thing maybe a sports net thing though because i can't imagine those mistakes are happening in the usa they're just taking a simulcast feed though and you can hear like they're showing it this is when he stole second base and you can hear it but you're seeing like an aerial shot of the scene that's a director issue all right the thing that

i don't know much about television, but when you get the, you know, when you get the, the, the, the, the, the void, the lips moving, but like the audio is like three seconds out of sync. That bothers me to no end. And I don't know how that's even possible. Is it like literally one guy's pressing play on the, on the video and then another guy's pressing play on the audio? You know, I don't know.

When Stokely has the answer, he can tell us in real life. It's like, okay, three, two, one on the audio. You know, I don't know. When Stokely has the answer, he can tell us and we'll know. It's like, okay, three, two, one, press play now. Like, I don't know. Hey, when you initially booked this episode with me, you called it Podcast Magic. Do you remember doing that? Did I really? Yeah. So in my calendar, it said Podcast Magic. Oh, nice. And I just want to say that that reminded me of

Ice Magic. My late great-grandmother used to buy Ice Magic, which was this chocolate syrup that she would put on vanilla ice cream, and it would harden. So she'd put it on the ice cream, and it would harden. And as a kid, it was like the most amazing thing. Not only did it taste good, but it was like fun. And it was called ice magic, and I just wanted to let you know

you reminded me about that. I've never heard of that before. They might still sell it. I don't know, but my grandmother bought it for us like as a special treat. That was it. Ice magic. It sounds nutritious.

Yeah, well, it's better than Nutella. Yeah. Fuck you. Do you know this song? I didn't know where you were going. Too bad there's a long opening here. Wow. But it's worth the wait, everybody.

Who's singing this song? Listen to that lyrical delivery. It's like Tiffany or something. No. Debbie Gibson. They're better than this. I'm Googling. Wow.

I probably haven't heard that since I saw the show. Since we recorded last, people are very confused right now. I should help them understand where we're going here. So you became the proud parent of baby number three. We'll call baby number three has a name. Are we allowed to say the name? Sure. His name is Charlie.

I don't know how, you know, because they call you Elvis, for goodness sakes. So Mrs. Elvis and Elvis had a child named Charlie. But the birth name on the certificate, this is Charles. Charles. Yes. Yes. His name is charles but we call him charlie and that song is is is uh performed by shandy cinnamon but it sounds like

a shandy cinnamon s-i-n-n-a-m-o-n anyway um yes uh we had a a baby boy on the 15th of October, our first boy. We have two girls, and everyone is home, happy, healthy. The girls are in love with their new baby brother. You're in love with your new baby son? Absolutely. Let's tell me the truth. You wanted a boy. No, I will tell you honestly, as I always am on this podcast, I just wanted a healthy baby, and that's what I got.

It's very nice to have something that is different. But certainly having a boy makes things round out nicely. But if there was another girl, I would have been as equally happy. And I say that knowing that I'm telling you the absolute truth. Well, congratulations. We're very excited. This is a live podcast event. I have something for you. Oh, wow. Oh, look at this.

If I ruffle it, it makes more sense. You sound like Howard Stern eating his food. Yeah. All right. It is a, it's something from Old Navy, it looks like. All right. We've got a little onesie. Boys will be boys.

Nice. And then a little, like, hooded sweatshirt onesie thingy. That's for, like, cooler nights. I like it. I like it. Jarvis has the same one. This is very nice. Thank you very much. And then number one bro onesie and mom's Prince Charming.

Very nice. Prince, get it? Prince Charming because it's Charles. Prince Charles. You're a big fan of the royalty. He's Prince Charles of Monaco, however. There's been three Prince Charles of Monaco and he's named after, if he's named after anybody, it would be them, not Charles of Windsor.

Not Charles of Charles in charge? No. Thank you very much, Mike. I appreciate it. Thank you to you and your family. And you know, it's funny. So we have two girls and this was a surprise. We didn't know and we didn't want to know what the gender of this baby was going to be. So when the boy came out, we were obviously, yay, it's a boy. He's healthy, blah, blah, blah. That's cool. We realized very quickly that we literally had nothing for him to wear that was blue. And I'm not necessarily adverse to him wearing something that is pink, although a neighbor of mine told me that I would turn my son gay if I were to put him in pink. This is Oshawa. We should tell people.

I think this would happen in Toronto as well. Well, it's Novaco for sure. get ourselves. So we, being three-time parents, of course, we're not necessarily as cautious, perhaps, or as nervous, maybe is the better word, as we were with number one and number two. So when we were checked out of the hospital on Thursday, Friday morning, we took little Charlie to the mall because we needed to go and buy him some clothes. Oh, by the third kid, you just, yeah, you don't care. And people in the mall were like, oh my god, look how small your baby is. How old is he? And I said, he's not even two days old yet. And they're like, oh my

goodness, why are you bringing him to the mall? And we're like, he has nothing to wear. So we had to go out and do shopping. I was going to say, he has nothing to do. He has nothing to wear. He doesn't have anything to do either. So this will be put into use, into circulation right away. Thank you very much. We were still a little slim on the clothes, but this is wonderful.

I'd do it again. Thank you. In fact, theoretically, because you were smart enough to have your kid like six and a half months after I did, he'll grow stuff so quickly. I know. You might get a steady stream here.

It's not like I got nephews or nieces waiting for this stuff. You can get it seriously. You just keep going. Your brothers are done? Well, I don't know. One doesn't have a woman right now, and the other, I don't know. He listens, so I woman right now, and the other, I don't know. He listens, so I actually don't know,

except that they might be done. They're not. Are you the kind of guy that asks that question? No, I would never ask that. Neither do I. That's the last question I'd ask. It's rude. It's rude for one.

It's super fucking rude. What happens if they've been trying for years? You ask the question, when's baby number two coming? Then you find out they've been trying for four years, and it breaks her heart, and she cries every 28 days and and then what an asshole you are yeah exactly i would never ask that well i thought that so after two because we had two girls the question started coming fast and furious are you going to go for a boy right yeah like you can

decide when you're you know hey let's send in the boys. So then the boy comes, arrives, and I'm like, okay, now it's going to stop. Literally, in the hospital, somebody asks, so are you going to try for a brother? I'm like, are you crazy? You know, people are stupid, though. And we'll get to this in a bit since today is, there's a bunch of stuff we got to get to. Because today is Municipal Election Day in Ontario. Did you know that? I thought it was 48 hours before signs come down

and stop littering our city. So the polls can stop. I love the environmental candidates that feel it's okay to litter our city with our stupid flyers and signs. Okay. If you are,

and listen, in defense of those people, because I don't think, there's a lot of candidates I think would rather not do the signs, but if your candidate is putting signs up everywhere, you can't really, you don't have a choice

because you have to play or suffer the consequences. You can't not put up your signs. I noticed that we have a candidate here who's got signs everywhere, and I voted for the other guy, the guy with the unfortunate last name, actually. There was a study that has been done in California, and there is one happening right now in Calgary, and they're going to release the results after the election. The signs that matter most, because signs do

matter, apparently. The signs that matter most, however, are the ones that are on private property. The signs that are on public property don't impact the election nearly as much as when you drive down the street and you see that somebody has chosen to put a sign up on their lawn. But when you see someone random, you know, street corner or whatever, those signs just all get lost because there's like a thousand signs there. Listen to me.

That's when it matters. I would like to ban signs completely. I would ban them off of public property. Absolutely. I think they're, I actually, oh, you mean by public, what do you mean by public? Like city-owned property?

Like city-owned property. It's already banned. They're breaking that rule. I'm certain. Oh, in Toronto. Okay, so in O's already banned. They're breaking that rule. I'm certain. Okay, so in Oshawa, it's not. In Toronto, I'm certain in Toronto that you cannot put your sign up on city-owned property.

Really? Okay. And they do it. Because, you know, Ford's, Crony's going to put it everywhere. So boulevards on the street and everything, you can't do that? I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

Oh, okay. I actually think I read this. Good, I like that. It's got to be private property, I believe. So I'm fine with private property. I mean, if you want to choose to tell me who you're affiliated with politically, which I think is a stupid move, great, fine, go ahead. People see their political affiliation as sort of like their religion.

It's so ridiculous. But you are in Oshawa, so you've kind of been... Well, I guess you get Toronto news, don't you, in Oshawa? A little bit spills over. I'm in Toronto probably more than I are in Oshawa, so you've kind of been, well, I guess you get Toronto news, don't you, in Oshawa? A little bit spills over. I'm in Toronto probably more than I'm in Oshawa. You're in Toronto more than I am. But this, and I want to, actually, I didn't want to get to the election yet. So we're going to talk about the elections.

And we also briefly talk about what happened in Ottawa last week. And there is a great controversy erupting with a great Canadian radio host. Oh, yes. Hello there. It's exciting. Hello there. We'll be discussing that later. I have an interesting take on this.

Good. I don't even want to know it. As you know, I told you. Let's not talk about anything. As you can imagine, since I am like... This is your thing. That's my thing. I got some opinions as well.

Before this, though, would you... Sorry to... Would I have had him on the podcast? Would I have had him on the podcast? Would you have had him on the podcast? Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I met him. So he appeared on Humble and Fred's podcast in the first couple of weeks

of its existence three years ago. And I was there for every episode the first two weeks of the Humble and Fred podcast. So I was there. He came in because he was very friendly with Kelly Cotrera. They knew each other from CBC. Which is interesting now.

And so I kind of was brought into that convo, and I met him. And so I sat there while he did his interview, and then just shook some hands and said some hi's and stuff. And then he kind of went off. So I spent, like I guess you could say, I spent a couple hours with him. And I was thinking, because I have Strongbow coming on, and that's kind of where I'd go. So 100% I was thinking, before this controversy,

I was thinking, I got get gian on the show because i honestly god when i interview people like the great mad dog or aaron davis or whatever right i'm in my head i'm kind of thinking okay like if gian gomeshi and howard stern had a baby how would they conduct the interview like i actually like gian's interviewing style believe it or not and i like q and i like howard stern's interviewing style, believe it or not, and I like Hugh. And I like Howard Stern's interviewing style, and I listen to him often. And I like sort of like if you take the two and you merge them, that's the kind of style I would like to emulate. Well, if you have a – I would have said that at one point in time, George Strombolopoulos was the king of Canadian radio. And certainly he has been displaced for numerous – not because of any fault of – You think Strombol was the king of radio? He was certainly he has been displaced for numerous, not because of any fault.

You think Strombo was the king of radio? He was at one point in time. You think so? I would think so, yeah. But what show would you say, because I mean, Strombo, I think, is whatever they call him, Canada's boyfriend and all that jazz.

Is that what they call him? Yeah. The tight pants, really? It's a good thing he took the chain off, though, for Hockey Night in Canada. But Gian Gomeschi's Q, to me, is a far bigger show than anything Strombo ever headed up on radio. Nationally, sure.

Because I don't know what radio show you would point to and say, there's the king. Him on, when he was doing his stuff on, not so much The Fan, but more on, what was he on, CFNY? He was on CFNY, but it was like hard rock, like niche programming at night and stuff. I don't think it had much mass appeal. Yeah, but it was a great show. Oh, yeah. He's a great show. I just think that Q is... On radio, I think Gian was a bigger

deal, in my opinion. I would say he's absolutely a bigger deal. But I would have had him on... I still have him on. Somebody tweeted that I should have him on now for sure, and I retweeted it. Well, I think the chances of you having him on now maybe are... Well, there's a massive PR company now in the way, which... Anyway, companies a smaller pr company is in the way of me and ash from uss but they have confirmed again that ash for the third time ash is coming in

november 5th so that's soon so i'm gonna have ash and uh there's my segue that was killer and uh ed the sock is coming in later this week. Wasn't he fighting? Was he fighting with someone recently? Oh, Humble Howard. And they've patched things up now? Yeah, like they had a fight from way back. That's good. You know what?

I like, I actually, I remember growing up watching Fromage. Me too. Loving Ed the Sock. I would watch Ed's nighttime show. I love Ed the Sock. I think it's funny. Yeah, I'm with you. And I think.

But here's my thing, okay? I think it would be interesting to see how you're going to interview a sock. Yeah. I've been thinking about it because I don't want to interview the sock. So this is my fear. My fear is... Oh, you don't want to interview the sock? No, I have no interest in the sock.

Does he know this? I think it'd be more fun if we discover if he knows it while I'm recording. Do you think he brings the sock out? He won't bring the sock out but i think the voice will come out so he's so okay just to set it up for people the man's name is steven kersner so steven kersner is the voice and writer and creator of ed the sock right so i'm assuming steven's coming over later this week to sit there and i'm going to talk to steven kersner about ed the sock ed the sock and the adventures of. Yeah. And my fear,

my concern is, and you're right, maybe we should have a little chat, but I don't want him to bail. I want him to get him in here and then do it, is I'm afraid he wants to do the interview as Ed the Sock.

Because that's a very different interview. Yeah, but one of them, I'm like playing this game now where I don't feel, the whole idea is no sponsors, I don't care who's listening. I have questions for the creator and the guy who does the voice. I don't feel, the whole idea is no sponsors, I don't care who's listening. I have questions for the creator and the guy who does the voice of it.

I don't have questions for a fictional character. I don't have an interest. It would be sort of like, I don't know what a comparison is, but if Rowdy Roddy Piper were to come in here, I don't want to interview the character. I want to interview the guy. Well, who's the weird guy?

I want Rowdy Roddy Piper on this podcast. Who's the weird guy who used to sell apple juice and then had his own talk show? Frank D'Angelo. He interviewed Ed the Sock one time. But as Ed the Sock? Yes. And I'd love to hear from Steve how that experience was

because that has to be horrible. That's okay because I do have some insight into that. It has to be horrible. And how does he get hooked into doing that stupid, horrible show? They ask you. Because Humble and Fred did it. And they get asked, and of course they can't say no because it's on TV. It's on Chit-Chat at 1 a.m.

Paid programming. And he advertises that as the number one rated show at 1 o'clock in the morning. You know Jim Taddy is on that show laughing in the background and does nothing else. What is, how does this happen? Frank D'Angelo. How? He is,

this guy is nobody. A narcissist. He's got a movie. He is a major narcissist. He's like, it's the next Godfather or whatever. And it won like Canadian Awards and stuff too.

I don't know what it's winning, but he's a legend in his own mind as they say. Very much so. He has enough credit to like trick people. See, now i would i would want to interview him i think i don't even know if i want to interview him because he

seems a little creepy though but yeah he seems a bit off right do you really want that guy in your basement and have a heart one-on-one with well it's not my basement i would totally have him in your basement i'm not sure i want him to know where i live i think i i think him and doug ford uh actually annie ford has that impacted your decision to have people on the show? Always when I because it's in my basement I always ask myself do I yeah 100% Especially since you have your lovely wife

and you're like a less than one year old child plus your other two children In all honesty if Doug Ford said I want to come on your podcast I'd say no thank you I don't want him in my basement Some people just want him in my basement Doug Ford isn I want to come in your podcast, I'd say no thank you. I don't want him in my basement. Some people just want him in my basement. Frank D'Angelo's right there too. Doug Ford isn't going to do anything.

I don't care to find out if Lisey's going to do something. I just don't care to have anything to do with it. You play in the dirt, you get dirty. I think you're going to, I don't know. I don't know if I should. I think I'd be more worried about Frank D'Angelo. Okay, so Frank D'Angelo's not coming on, but guess who is?

Guess who's coming on in the next two weeks? We're just waiting for the World Series to wrap up. Strombol. No, so Frank Angelo's not coming on, but guess who is? Guess who's coming on in the next two weeks? We're just waiting for the World Series to wrap up and then... Strombol. No, Willner. I can't get Strombol to a date in time. Willner. Mike fucking Willner, who I have a million questions for. Get out of here. Yeah, it's confirmed. Talk to us directly. He's 100% in. He's just waiting. Let the World Series

end. I want to be here for that. Mike Willner. I have so many questions for Mike Willner. Just so many questions. Is he going to be an asshole to you? That's what I want to know. Well, you'll have to listen to find out. I want to know if you challenge him on something or just suggest something that the Jays should do

and see how he responds in person. Maybe I'll argue that like, what was the trade? Just for that, the tech, the guy, the first baseman who went to Texas, Michael. Anyways, there's a, we made an awful trade back in the day to a young guy who turned out to be a star i'm gonna maybe argue that that was a good trade for the j or uh who is the catcher guy that we got rid of so that jp rnc jp rnc is sebia or whatever oh yeah yeah yeah well yeah the blue chipper but we all it was good it was to get dicky right it

was uh yeah i got some questions for him. That would be interesting. I want to see if he would be an asshole to you face to face. Last quick note, since we're running down who's coming up soon, is that confirmed for like, I can't remember what week now, but maybe it's next week. I've got to check my calendar. But Colleen Rusholm is going to come in.

Oh, look at you. I know. Was she the one that Jeff Merrick dated? No. No, that's Josie Dye. Josie Dye, whose bosses said no. That's right. Oh, I've never revealed that. I don't know if I'm... Because now that radio people listen, I'm going to be a little... I don't know. Should I be careful?

So I'm not going to be on the podcast then for like another three months? No, you can come whenever you want. Just come on. I'm recording Wednesday. You're here now. Right. Okay. Although it's very early. I don't think the sun's coming. Hey, guess who replied to me on Twitter? I'm excited about this. Stephen Harper. Ricky Gervais.

He did. Because you're having a baby. You're out of this loop. He tweeted something about how come you can go up to a smoker and say smoking's bad for you, but you can't go up to a fat person and say... Food's bad for you. Yeah, fat is bad for you, but you can't go up to a fat person and say... Food's bad for you. Yeah, fat is bad for you. And then I wrote back, I replied to him and said,

because smokers are always smoking by choice, if you will, and fat people could have a glandular disorder or something to that effect. It was written more eloquently than that. And then he wrote back and said, 1.4% of fat people have a glandular disorder, just saying or something. And then I replied back and said, 1.4% of fat people have a glandular disorder. Just saying or something. And then I replied back and said, but how do you know when you're talking to the 1.4%? This goes back to asking, when's baby number two coming along?

How do you know you're talking? And did he respond to that? People think, oh, you had one baby, you can have two. That's not true. Sometimes it's hard. You can't have the second, but you had the first. That happens all the time. How do you know you're talking to the 1.4%?

So I had an exchange my brother was more impressed with this than anyone but i had a back and forth with ricky gerbe on twitter thank you twitter machine for connecting me to these people true story who's the biggest person who ever replied to you is it elliot freeman uh no i had lunch with elliot freeman i know but you're supposed to get him in here. It's a little joke to me that he hasn't come in yet. There was someone, Bobo, actually. Bobo from the Stern Show. Honestly, he's not very big.

He's a whack packer. He's not even a whack packer. He is a whack packer. It's been confirmed. They've talked about it. Howard Stern. That's like when they used to argue, is Carol Olt a supermodel?

That's right. No, but that's different. She was a supermodel? That's right. No, but that's different. Because she was a supermodel. Fred was wrong about that. Fred was very wrong. Oh, did you hear the latest revelation? Robin Quivers declared Brad Pitt to be a movie star. Oh, I didn't even know that was a... She saw the movie Fury and said that he is indeed a movie star.

That's funny that she held out on that. For years and years and years, she's suggested that he has not been a movie star. Oh, Elvis, I hate to interrupt you with that profound insight, but... You want to get inside? Let's get inside. There is breaking news at this hour at the Toronto Mic News Desk. We are prepared to call it. The numbers are in. Hold on.

John Tory is the new mayor of Toronto. I have some advanced pollsters who just texted me. Your advanced pollsters are bullshit because you said Olivia Chow was going to win months ago. So fuck you. You don't know anything. That was speculation. This is fact. This is speculation as well.

It's was speculation. This is fact. This is speculation as well. This is not speculation. First of all, I do prefer Olivia Chow to John Tory, but I'm so grateful it's not Doug Ford. So I'm just pleased to announce to everyone we have the numbers here and Doug Ford has lost the election and John Tory has won.

Why are you doing this? It's breaking news. You don't know anything. When Rosie and I recorded the day of the US elections, I did the same thing of Obama. I played my breaking news and I called it. And of course I was correct. I'm going to be correct again. John Tory has won. Congrats to John Tory, the new mayor.

I am so relieved Four Nation is not in the Little Toronto White House over there. It house over there it's uh it's over it's interesting that you say that because you've also tweeted that the mayor really has nothing no i said has very little power right on so consensus bill yeah it's funny like i i but they bring shame they can they bring shame and embarrassment that's the thing they can do a whole if you're a bad mayor you can you have a lot of crap you can do to a city when you're a good mayor it can do a lot of good quiet good things uh but so when you

have a bad mayor you're better having no mayor is what i'm saying so we were we were far better off if like a a squirrel were mayor than rob ford as mayor but john or olivia would do a fine job as mayor of toronto i'm going to suggest that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth whatever that means uh i don't think so because i've never done that before. Yes, you are. But at the same time, I know I'm saying it's all because a mayor has very little power doesn't mean I want Doug Ford to have the spot because then we it's another four years of wasted time because council goes against him. He can't work with anyone else because he can't work with the wind government and and the Harper government wants nothing to do with him because he's a former hash dealing bully and

basically having doug ford as mayor paralyzes you for like four years and you have to work around him again and i'm tired of that we just did it for four years like you fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me whatever that means won't get fooled again so uh this is good for the city that we've moved on. And I'm glad to report this breaking news. I think that's an exclusive. I believe I'm the first media outlet in the city to call this election for John Tory. You're an idiot.

Moving on. The worst thing ever. You asked me once recently because Freddie P's mom died. And then you said because Mike Stafford had fired Freddie P as his best man. And we enjoyed that story quite a bit. I love it. I wrote an email to Mike Stafford asking if he wants to come on. And he never responded.

Of course not. And I wrote Howard Berger, of all people. He didn't respond either. What is he doing? Howard Berger was interviewed by our friends at Toronto Sport. I saw that. That's the guy I had beer with Mike in Boston But it was not an audio

I'm not interested in Howard Berger at all No, I mean I would be interested from a historical perspective in what happened and stuff I would be interested enough to have him on He strikes me as a very very angry person He is, he sounds like an angry person But I think he's always been angry And maybe he has a right to be angry after being fired after what is it like

25 years as the beat reporter. But, um, he just strikes me as a very angry, angry person. He could have been like Barb DiGiulio though, who, you know, kept plugging along and was upbeat and positive and then landed on her feet at 10, 10. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. Fucking right. That's what you got to do so mike stafford uh you were wondering with me whether he would contact fred about the death and this

is mike stafford i do have an answer now so this is uh straight from freddie p this is breaking news for fuck's sakes so freddie uh mike stafford did not directly contact Fred regarding his mother's passing, but a condolences card did come to Fred from, quote, Jody and Mike Stafford, quote. And Fred says he knows Jody wrote it. Jody is Mike Stafford's new wife. Right. But it did come from Jody and Mike Stafford, but there was no direct correspondence from Mike Stafford. Just a card from both wishing condolences. That's better than nothing.

At least he acknowledged it. At least he acknowledged it. So that solves one of the great mysteries of Toronto Radio. Well, it seems sad because if you go obviously they were

friends, really close friends. Very close friends. Because from the CFNY days,reddie was doing pete and gates as the sports guy mike was a news guy how many people would you and like now how many people would you ask to be your best man probably a very there's a very small amount of people probably just uh james or jarvis right because it was james before right it was james before so who scored by we had an amazing hockey game saturday i just want to say, I know he doesn't listen. Yeah, we won. I love that. I'll always be we won with my teams, always.

When the Leafs lost, we lost. That's how I am. Monica agreed with me because she saw your tweet. Was it tweet or Facebook? Facebook. It was Facebook. And she said,

what does he mean? And I'm like explaining, Elvis doesn't think that James' team... I was busting your balls. I know you're busting my balls. But it's always we to me. But anyway, James was most improved player last year.

He plays House League hockey. He was most improved player. And this year, it's only one game in. He looks like he's improved leaps and bounds. Well, he's a big kid. But he's put it together. It's almost like he was a big kid who didn't have the... He didn't put the hands-eye together.

He's doing moves now. He scored two goals. They cap you. Interesting fact in the host league at Georgia. Really? You get three-goal cap, and then you can't score again. Oh, I've heard this.

So you can play, but you can't pass off. Oh, yeah, you can set up people. But basically, it's fun, because then the guy who's got the hat trick under his belt going in, he's got to pass off. So it's kind of fun to watch him. If you have a breakaway,

and then you've got to, like... Yeah, he's got to drop pass or something for somebody to change. Okay, sorry. So it's, you know, so obviously these two guys were, were friends, close enough friends that one of them asked the other guy to be his best man. And then all of a sudden they, you know, there was that separation and no longer friends.

That's, that's, you know, that, that kind of sucks. So it's at least there was an acknowledgement, you know, maybe a phone call. Who knows what, what the reason is. Cause I don't think Fred even knows what the reason is really. We believe it to be something about chorus bashing. Yes. Or radio bashing. Which makes it even more ridiculous.

But anyway, it's not for us, I guess, to determine. But, you know, good on Mike for sending at least a letter of condolence. Absolutely. You are a season's ticket holder for TFC. Oh, for fuck's sakes. You're going to talk about this? Real briefly, only because of my personal story So, you're in the supporter section

Row 17 for Wendell Clark I know this because you emailed me your tickets For last Sunday's Did you sit in seat 17? I always sit row 17 I sat closer Oh, you sat closer Supporters, surprisingly, maybe not,

because they were kind of eliminated almost mathematically. But it was kind of empty. And it was cold and rainy. Yeah, yeah. Well, that'll do it. So we moved up. We sat closer. But we...

Okay, so you sent me the two tickets kindly, and I took Michelle, my daughter, to her first TFC match. So this was very exciting to her she really wanted to go and then cool and she she was so sad that the the bloody big deal wasn't going to play but she was fine you know that's life so we biked to the game because that's what we do in this crazy lefty hippie commune i've got here so we bike to the game and we get to the game and i got my two bike locks i'm gonna bike lock them up and go in and we're excited i go in my pocket for the keys i have i have the wrong keys i have like two sets

of keys that connect with a connector you know those connector things and one is for the cars and then one is for like the house and the bikes and they're so i never need yeah sometimes i don't need the car one so i was just gonna take the small one anyway i took the wrong one and i've never done that before never but i get there i don there. So I don't have a bike lock, and we have two bikes at the match, and there's no time to go back or anything. So I actually just leaned the bikes against the fence and went to the match, and the bike survived. I just want to say unlocked bikes survived the match.

Here's my take on TFC. The spineless fucks. Not about my bike? No. It was a nice Torontonian story that they didn't get stolen. That's a nice sort of plus for the city. Lots of security walking around BMO. I think that was it.

Okay, tell me the TFC story. The spineless fucks in the front office are real just assholes. And frankly, they have no spine. And they're just assholes. they're just they're assholes a confirmed um report by a very credible news person said that someone had put up a banner that wasn't blocking anyone's view that said bloody big joke and that this mlse staff or tfc staff had it removed um Fuck you. Apparently the argument is that bloody is a bad word. Well, that's a weak argument.

You created an entire media campaign. Did they really say that? This is what I've heard, yes. I didn't see that from their official Twitter feed or anything like that. No speculation, Elvis. This is a serious broadcast. I'm like the Peter Mansbridge of kind of podcasts. Okay, sure. The polls hadn't even opened yet.

Only that would be like, I would write a blog entry with the headline about hypocrisy at MLSC if they really did state on the record that bloody was a bad word. They won't say anything

because they're fucking assholes. You know what they'll say? We reserve the rights and they'll just... They do not reserve the right. They ran an entire... Well, they technically deserve the right though.

They ran an entire fucking campaign this spring saying that it was a bloody big deal. And you can't now say that that's a bad word. No. It was all over the fucking news.

It was on the TV, the radio, whatever. Anyway, the banner besides the point. And it's not a bad word. We're still, no, we're two days out of the season-ending loss that they suffered. Yeah, 1-0. Still no apology from this team. They need to apologize. There is precedent out there to suggest that

when teams collapse like they have, that they not only refund season ticket holders, but they refund money back to everyone who's bought tickets whenever possible. Really?

Yeah, absolutely. Who does this? I've never heard of it. There's a team in England. So one team in England did this. That's case law, brother. That's one thing. That's precedent.

You know how much refunds the Leafs and the Jays would be giving up? I don't fucking care. It's a bloody big deal. It's a bloody big joke is what it is. This team needs to apologize to its fan base. This team needs to do a serious house cleaning. And idiots in the media like Gareth Wheeler, who are apologists,

who suggest that the future looks bright. Fuck you, man. You don't buy tickets. Is Gareth Wheeler the Mike Wilner of the Blue Jays? Fuck him. Fuck him. He doesn't buy tickets. He gets to go to the games for free

and he gets to sit there and say, oh, well, we shouldn't get upset about Defoe and that the team is looking bright in future. Fuck you. The team has been around for how many years? It's never made the playoffs. And you're sitting here telling me that I need to wait for next year. Go fuck yourself.

The entire team and all of the media who are apologizing for them. Good on guys like John Molinaro and other guys who are standing up and saying that this is fucking brutal. And that the team needs to do something. There needs to be. We need to see. They keep hiring coaches that have no experience. Like what the fuck? If I was Jermaine Defoe,

I'd leave too. Cause I'm being coached by somebody who knows nothing. He's never coached professionals. So does he fake an injury? Like, tell me, I mean, I got to plead ignorance.

I would imagine. I don't know the soccer culture. I would imagine that Jermaine Defoe has not put the same amount of effort into getting healthy as he may have if he was back in the English Premier League trying to get back in. Soccer's weird, man. Well, no, I... Well, just because in my career, with all my sports I follow, like let's take NHL for example, there would never be, you know, I know I'm going to use this guy as an example because you love him, but if David Clarkson's hurt, he's not going to fake the injury not to play because he wants to play. I'm not suggesting that Jermaine Defoe is faking an injury. It happens in baseball all the time.

You make a decision in August. Do you shut the guy down for the rest of the season or do you try and rehab him and play through? That's like Strasburg. That's different. That's the greater good of the organization who will own that guy. But in soccer, it seems like guys jump.

We don't own this guy long term. Sure we do. The only difference here is that Jermaine Defoe is making… You know what I say? I hate talking soccer because I feel like I'm exposing myself as a fraud, but I'm disclosing myself as a fraud. Because you're trying to make things different when they're not. But Defoe is a one-year deal with Toronto.

It's not a one-year deal. How long is the deal for? The difference is that Jermaine Defoe has made the decision himself to shut himself down, is what I'm arguing, as opposed to the team making the decision to shut himself down. So what's that for? He's deciding to shut himself down because he doesn't want to play for a team that isn't going to make the playoffs anymore

and jeopardize his possibility of going back to England. Because the team is going to... Yeah, that's a soccer thing. The team is going to get rid of him in January. Because he's expensive. Because he does not want to play here. And I can't blame him. Expensive is in quotations

because the team is making dollars a hand over fist. Interesting. It's a joke. It's an absolute joke. This team is a joke. And no one has said anything. So the match I went to was the second last game of the season, but going into the match, I was reading we are not

mathematically eliminated yet. Correct. We were close. We ended up losing those last two games. We needed to win everything and someone else had to lose everything. Correct. We need to win the final three games and the team ahead of us need to lose their final three games. The fact is, going into the second last game of the season, not being mathematically eliminated, that's uncharted territory

for this team, right? This is the best this team's ever done. This is a team that was touted to win the championship, not just squeak into the playoffs. Yeah, I believe we could pull out a clip of us discussing where we'd have the parade. And if TFC won it all, we would have a parade, right? Because the Argos get a parade. There would absolutely

be a parade, for sure. Absolutely. Why wouldn't there be a parade? Did Toronto Rock have a parade? I don't think so. I don't even know. They must have some sort of celebration, I think. They won like five championships

or something. Toronto Rock has like a parking lot, like Kegger. Dude, they used to sell at the ACC. And Maple Leaf Gardens. I was there.

I've never been to Toronto Rock. I was there for their first, it's great. They're the forgotten sports team in Toronto. They're very niche. They do a good job of what they do. Do you know where lacrosse is a big fucking deal?

Whitby. And Mimico. Seriously. Not because of David Clarkson. I'm serious. Mimico because I see the kids play it in the Mimico Arena, and it's a big fucking deal in Mimico for some reason. I wish he would shut himself down for the season.

No, he's playing well this year. Fuck you, he's playing well. You're wrong. Three penalties? Yeah. For no reason? That game where everyone. No, he's playing well this year. Fuck you, he's playing well. You're wrong. Three penalties? Yeah, okay. For no reason? That game where everyone was asleep, at least somebody was fucking engaged.

He is engaged. Listen to me. Listen to me. I said I was giving him 25 games. He's the stupidest player in the league. So far, David Clarkson, I'm not saying he's worth the money or the term. I never talk so much about money.

He is so improved over last year. Like, just looks less lost. He's found a line where he's effective. He's gained shots on net. He's got a couple of goals. He had one disallowed because of the high kick. He's been involved. He's got some points.

I'm telling you, David Clarkson's improved. That's all I'm going to say. He's a great second-line winger. Yeah, he's a great second-line winger. No, he's not. Has he played on the second line winger. No, he's not. Has he played on the second line once ever this season?

I see him now getting power play time. Not the first unit, but he comes in for the second power play unit. Yet another reason why Randy Carlisle is a fucking moron.

I hate him so much. All right, we got to get to the big story though. Let's get away from TFC. Okay, I just want to say that I took my

daughter and had a good time and thank you for the tickets. You're welcome. You're welcome. You can thank Charlie for that. Charlie decided to be born three days before the game so we can go hello there let's talk about gian gomeshi so i listen to q uh you know who finds him a lot of people do but freddie p finds him awfully pretentious i find i find him very very pretentious so here's my can i can i dive i know you as a man who spent two hours with him i'm like the gian expert so please and then we'll talk about what

we know and my i think i know gian i'm waiting for the end of that sentence i know gian as a member of moxie furvis and i'm not of course i'm not suggesting this to make fun of him because back in the day i was a card carrying member of bnl nation and had you know three different copies of the yellow tape because i wore them out constantly and it at the time moxie fruvis was sort of like you know like they were like the winner to you're right you're absolutely right they got in that wave they were part of that wave so and they were this they were like a joking good band but kind of funny because bernie ladies started being kind of comedic yes so then they got more serious in mainstream okay go on lest we forget that moxie fruvis is the second band in canadian history to

have a number one hit a second independent band excuse me in this country to have a number one hit the first being the bernie ladies was this stuck in the 90s what was it uh king of spain no it was before that. I can't remember. I was just reading it the other day. Humble? Oh, no. I can't remember. Anyway, so I have seen them in concert probably eight, nine times.

Going all the way back to Ontario Place, you know, with the rotating stadium. I saw the first concert there. So that's how I know him. And for him now to end, of course, like you mentioned, they were sort of a funny guy band. The Rotating Stadium. I saw the first concert there. So that's how I know him. And for him now to, and of course, like you mentioned, they were sort of a funny guy band. For him now to be looked at as this respected broadcaster who does amazing interviews, honestly, the only interview I've ever heard him do was that snippet with him and Billy Bob Thornton. So I don't really know him as, I just know that he is a respected radio guy. He does a good interview, in my opinion. I've never listened to him before.

I can't take him seriously as that kind of guy because that's how I know him. Okay. But I do find it interesting to hear the various versions of people's takes on what has happened. Okay, so let's reset. Stop the clock.

Okay. Firstly, we should acknowledge we only have this one side of the story out there because you have two sides well maybe i have cbc side and his side well cbc side is very uh like a lawyer wrote it which is essentially like we let him something we learned something that meant we had to end the relationship and we're not commenting further that's the cbc side yes so i would argue that's not much of a side but that's a side. But Gian, who hired a very expensive PR firm, he has published a very lengthy, and I thought it was pretty well written, actually, this Facebook post. Basically, he wants to disclose everything.

So he's controlling the narrative, if you will. He's put his story out there. Smart. Which is like jilted ex-girlfriend. Which is smart. A journalist who's Jesse Brown, by the way. I don't know if you know Jesse Brown. Oh, okay.

So Jesse Brown and this jilted ex-girlfriend are trying to make something. I think the big word will be consent. So Gianna Scherzer. So, okay. Back in the day, my Friday nights often revolved around watching Oz. Okay. I watched it on Showcase, which was 39. I don't know where it is for everyone else. But it used to come on. I can't remember if it was 11 or midnight, but it

would come on late at night and I'd watch Oz. I loved Oz. Okay. Friday nights, Showcase TV. You with me? Yeah. I used to tune in a couple minutes early and I remember I would often catch the last five minutes of a show on Showcase called Kink. Okay. Okay. So is that the one with sookin lee no okay it's definitely not the opera so no sookin this is called kink and it was a canadian show about people into uh bdsm and uh like they liked being whipped and they had they had safe words and this world and um i've got to make sure you know i didn't it wasn't a kink I would catch the end of it, and I was mesmerized. These people really loved pain with their sex. But it was consenting adults, and it was all good.

Because I believe it's all good, consenting adults. So it sounds like, from the post that Gian wrote, that he's a big fan of this kink. The kink. Big fan of kink. Or BDSM. Yeah. He's not a fan of the show necessarily he might have been

he might have been a fan of the show actually the acts that are portrayed in the show right so i guess a lot of it is like um they have safe words because you're supposed to sometimes in this uh culture you would uh sort of like pretend you're being raped if you will if that it's when it gets to be too much for you right because but you might like pretend you don being raped, if you will. When it gets to be too much for you, you need an action. But you might pretend you don't want it and there's part of the game, might be no consent. But there truly is consent because you talked about it beforehand

and then you have some safe word where it gets up. So he's trying to explain that, you know, two consenting adults and it's enjoyable for both. But yeah, it's fucking kink. And he's suggesting that the CBC fired him because they don't want one of their main people, because Gian's a big deal at the CBC radio, which I listen to, it being knowing that they're into kink.

Why do you call it the name of a show? No. Kink would be sort of... I'm not calling it capital K kink. Lowercase k kink. Okay? You're the only person I know that's referring to BDSM or S&M, whatever, as kink. Well, somebody had to start.

It's weird. So two things. One is that this is one side of the story, and this story was crafted by a PR firm with him. So I would honestly have to take this one side of the story of a green assault, just like I'll take the other side when it comes out. I'll have the same green assault when I get that story. So I'm saying we don't know anything.

Everything is speculation still because we got one side of the story. Secondly, I don't believe for a second, personally, I don't believe CBC would actually fire a successful revenue-generating host because of something he did in the privacy of his own bedroom. Those are my initial feelings on this. So I believe there's more to this story that hasn't come out yet because the suggestion that CBC would say goodbye because they don't, I don't think in the world, maybe the post-Marv Albert world or whatever, that if you

get the host of an entertainment show like Q, I think privacy of his own room, that he's into BDSM, those right initials, I don't think CBC would dismiss based on that alone. There's more to this story. What are your thoughts, Elvis? Would CTV dismiss someone like that? I mean, it depends. Like Lloyd Robertson, maybe, but not as he's still working. So I think it depends. If you're like

the, if you're Peter Mansbridge, maybe we got a problem now, but when you're Gian Gomeschi, host of Q, if anything, it would create more, maybe more listeners and maybe more revenue would be generated from this. Here's my take. We don't know anything. We have two sides of the story that haven't been proven. They're just people talking.

We don't know anything yet. We have people that are firmly in one camp or another or even a third camp. And it's way too early for that. People are suggesting, of course, all of this is happening on Facebook or Twitter. Yeah. People are suggesting that the CBC are dicks for firing him for this. We don't know that. No, we don't know what they are.

Two, someone was suggesting last night on Facebook that I, and I rarely challenge people suggesting that this woman is crazy. Yeah. I wait too early for that. And I don't understand how this woman is crazy. You're, you're part of the problem by creating a culture to suggest that because somebody is accused, we don't even know if this woman has accused him, but he has suggested that this woman is going to accuse him, which is also interesting because there's no accusation yet. Um, he's the one who's raised the accusation. But because this woman has, quote unquote, accused him of this, she's crazy. Right. Why are we creating a culture where a woman should feel as though she's going to be stigmatized because she accuses somebody of sexually assaulting her? It's amazing, though,

what happens when you control the narrative. Like, that's why it was I thought it was when I was the speculation was rampant. I was on places where they were talking like what it ended up potentially being. And actually I've seen worse speculation about what this was going to be like, you know, right. Right.

So, uh, the, the fact that he quickly published this very kind of detailed and open, uh, I think it was a very smart move for G on because he got his story out there and you're right. A lot of people get his story, take it as fact, and assume she's crazy.

She's crazy. And there's some vendetta going on. Or the CBC are fucking assholes. And then you get the opposite side saying he's a fucking dick. He's a molester or sexual assault person. And he needs to go to jail. Which is equally unfair. All of those camps are dumb.

You're wrong in all of those camps. Because you don't know what you don't know. We don't know anything other than what has been said. And unfortunately, not much has been said yet. That means anything. It sounds like soon Jesse Brown will be publishing the other side. And then we'll have to take the green assault to both sides and see where we're at. Now, the interesting part, however, our good friend Bob McCowan.

Yes. Who I'd love to be with interesting part however our good friend bob mccowan yes who i'd love to be who is our good friend bob mccowan has always said that when you have people um making allegations the only real way for you to know that that person is um you know strong enough about suggesting that it's a lie other than to just say it's a lie is you sue because when you sue now you suddenly have to prove um the allegations and that's what gianna is apparently going to do this morning that's breaking news is that apparently he's going to be serving the cbc with a 50 million dollar suit and if he does that and it actually goes to court he's now going to have to talk about it and he's going to have to there is actually going to be an opportunity for him to get his side of the

story and her side of the story and all that kind of stuff so um that that particular occurrence if that actually happens and if it goes to trial then that makes me think maybe his post is you're right because of but the ford brothers since we're going to talk municipal in a minute but the ford brothers are notorious for threatening to sue their politicians in general right but doug ford never did actually oh i'm suing the toronto star and they'll Doug Ford especially, oh, I'm suing the Toronto Star, and they'll come out and make a press conference, I'm suing the Toronto Star because they said these things, but they never do for the obvious reason, which is

the freaking paper usually has a legitimate source. It's interesting. That part makes it very interesting to me. You know, it just seems, it seems as though it's an unfortunate time for him, regardless of whether or not he's an asshole or not, given that he's, he's been really upset about his father's death. It seems right.

And there's a right. And, uh, you know, like I said, I've spent two hours with him. He's not a personal friend or anything I did in that two hours. He was like very lovely. If you can, like, he was just very respectful and nice and kind. And I didn't see him. He did not grab Kutra's ass, for example. You know what is interesting though?

There's people- The blog entry. Okay, you go. No, no, no, not the blog entry. I do want to talk about that. I do want to talk about that in a minute, but go. It kind of relates to it, I guess. But there are people that I know and I trust that are in the media that have had engagements

with him and have had engagements with other people who've had engagements with him. And they've told me and publicly stated on their Facebooks that none of this surprises them. No, this is true. It's interesting. Okay, let's talk about the blog entry then. And I guess this is what happens, I guess.

Just everyone starts to come out and talk about things apparently that in the small circle of show business has been... Yeah, because there's things you might know about a public figure, not criminal things, but just the douchey things, maybe. And you're not going to be the guy who writes this. You might tell your wife,

and you're maybe at a family get-together, you mention, hey, you know that Gian Gomeschi? He's a bit of a douchebag or whatever. This is whatever, I heard this or whatever. But you don't publish it or whatever. And then when something like this happens, oh, I thought, yeah, that guy, what a... Yeah, makes sense, right. I, but you don't publish it or whatever. And then when something like this happens, oh, I thought, yeah, that guy, I heard he was a douchebag or whatever.

So there was a blog entry from June 2013. You read it, and I've read it, and lots of people read it at this point, and it's about, he calls it Keith, yeah. So she writes a story about this awful date she had with a guy named Keith. And I kind of feel bad for Gian in the sense that she won't name

Gion Gomeshi, but does everything but name Gion Gomeshi. Describes him to a T. There's no doubt who it is. And I read this, twice I read this entry because I feel, I felt the author, I was upset that it even got published because if you read

it twice, Gion is being accused of being like a typical douchey guy. He't to me gion is just your average guy trying to like wheel a chick like there's nothing to me he doesn't cross any lines like i i yeah he comes off a little bit like persistent and a little maybe a little desperate and but but nothing to me. It's just like if you, you read it, right? Did you think Gian came off looking like anything? Not first of all,

nothing close to criminal, not even close, but not even like more than just your average douchey guy trying to get laid. Did you read the post before or after Gian's post? Before and after. So once before, once after.

So you, you, you read this without knowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause someone linked to it. I think it was Reddit or something. So you had the benefit of that. I didn't. So I read this without knowing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because someone linked to it on Reddit or something.

So you had the benefit of that? I didn't. So I read it and I'm like, yeah, you're a fucking asshole. But asshole, really, what's the worst he did? You're right. He didn't.

He didn't do anything. How many guys, like unfortunately for him, he's a public figure so maybe it's written about in a blog entry. But he's, you know, the hand on the back

when they're on a date, first of all, at the Metric concert. Yeah, but the thing is that she didn back when they're on a date, first of all. Yeah, but the thing is that she didn't know they were on a date. That was the thing. Yeah, but that's because she thought he was gay. You know, if she had known he was straight, she would have known it was a date. But all because she thought he was gay doesn't mean he was gay. Like, he doesn't know she thinks he's gay.

So he thinks he's on a date. And he's not, to me, there's, yeah, maybe he creeped you out because he's older and maybe he's trying too hard and then he wants to drive you home. I feel bad for Gia on that entry because it's really not, I don't think it's cool that she wrote that entry to begin with. Especially because she all but

names the guy. I think it's fine for her to write it, I think, because that's what blogging's all about. But at the same time, he could have been more subtle. But subtle texting and saying, did we break up already? He certainly didn't do anything illegal. Not even close, though. Not even close.

There's no roofie in the drink or anything like that. You know, it is what it is. I mean, you know. Sounds like the dude likes the ladies and likes private bedroom encounters. And he was trying to get her there, which sounds like you're a lot of guys, a lot of single guys. If you're in the public eye, though, you have to be aware of the fact that this can happen.

It wouldn't even be newsworthy, though, if this was a rock star, right? I love that she calls him a C-grade celebrity or something like that. Don't you think he's at least B? I'd say he's probably C. He's still a radio guy. As much as he might be the king of Canadian radio.

Maybe I think of like Humble and Fred are C. So Gian, to me, is a big notch up. Okay. Well, if Humble and Fred are C, then he's no more than a B minus, I'd say. But he's an... I think he's a... I mean... Would your mom know Gian Gomeschi?

Of course. Absolutely. You think so? Does she listen to CBC Radio or no? I don't think she does, but I think she knows Gian Gomeschi. I just think he's... See, I don't think my mom would know Gian Gomeschi, but I think she would know George. This is a great discussion.

I think she would know George Trompovos. How famous is Gian Gomeschi? Yeah. Because lots of TV time. Yes, because he's on TV. Yeah, George is definitely a bigger name. He was on TV before Hockey Night in Canada. Yeah, no, yeah.

George is a bigger celebrity in Canada than Gian Gomeschi, without a doubt. But Gian Gomeschi, you're right. It depends on where you are, because there's a lot of people, and I know this from the Ford Nation crowd, who just won't even listen to CBC. Well, yeah, he's dismissed. As if it's some liberal propaganda arm or something. He's on NDP radio.

Yeah, or NPR or whatever. Right, NDP radio. NDP radio. Which I don't listen to, not because it's NDP radio. It's just I have no interest. I listen to it because it's a fucking great station with great content don't care

but I do think it's I don't know it sucks to be him but it also sucks to be this unknown women or women at the moment because they're getting ranked over the call everybody's getting this is a no win situation it's an ugly one

and it came out of nowhere didn't it because I didn't hear these rumors about the douchey G on because nobody getting, this is a no-win situation. It's an ugly one, eh? And it came out of nowhere, didn't it? Because I didn't hear these rumors about the douchey G on because nobody... Well, see, this is the thing is that I'm talking to people that I know and they're like,

yeah, we've known this for a long time but no one says anything. But no one told us. But no one told Tron and Mike. I get the emails. Everyone wants to tell me like they saw Dean

and they think he whispered, you know. Well, Dean, did you see Dean's tweet? Yeah, I did. He told them to shut the fuck up. He's like, just stop writing essays, tweet? Yeah, I did. He told him to shut the fuck up. He's like, just stop writing essays, dude.

Yeah, but if he only knew that was approved and proofread and maybe even written by the PR firm, the big one, Navigator. But you know what? People are faulting him

for that too. And I'm like, you know what? No, he did what he did. I think it was brilliant because he's controlling this narrative. There are so many people

who, this is a closed case. And they haven't even heard the other side yet. She's a vindictive ex-girlfriend who just... The gut reaction is just deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, right? I want to hear what Jesse Brown has to say about this too, because he's throwing down the gutter in this one. This is the way in which

you need to handle these types of things. Politicians pay attention. Sports people, athletes pay attention types of things expect politicians pay attention sports people athletes pay attention rob ford should pay attention you get caught sure rob ford's biggest mistake was that he didn't apologize months and months and months ago years ago as opposed to when he actually did it was too late when he did um but if he had come out and said i'm sorry right from the get-go people would have forgotten about it and moved on. You know, you get caught for taking steroids. You get caught for whatever. You know, Michael Vick can kill dogs and be shitting animals.

He came out and said, sorry, served his time. Now he's, you know, everyone's fine again. It's like it never happened. So, you know, in that sense, he's playing it smart. But you got to wonder whether or not, you know, I want to know what the other side is. Yeah. This is one of those stories that is just fascinating as you watch it unfold. And unfortunately, the court of public opinion usually isn't fair, right?

If you're in a trial situation, you know, it's a lot fairer. Yeah, but the burden of proof is not, what is it? You have to be on a reasonable doubt in the court, and you don't have that in the public opinion. No, not at all. I mean, it's already... He's already guilty of douchey behavior. Right.

And this woman's already guilty of being crazy, which is so ridiculous. Although I think the blog entry might help, Gian, because the blog entry, like everyone, every guy's going to read that blog entry, I think, and say,

like, that sounds like my buddy, like trying to get laid or whatever. I think it's just like unfortunate that that's a private, like trying to be even, yeah. I think it's just like unfortunate that that's a private like trying to be even, yeah, maybe a little douchey because you're older and how you're looking at her or whatever, but come on, come on.

You haven't been single in a long time, but you'd be wheeling a chick in the same way. No, I have no, I had no game. I have no game. I would have never done that. Your hand wouldn't go in the small, the small of her back. No, I would have never done that,

but that's not to suggest that what he did was wrong. It's just because I have no game. And she never was honest with him about not being into him. So the poor guy kept plugging along. Yeah. And then she says she lies about wanting to leave. I got a headache. I'm going to go grab a cab.

And he does what I think any gentleman would do, which is you're not taking a cab with a headache. I'll drive you home. And yeah, at the end, there's a hug. And he goes in and tries to give her a kiss. He was very persistent, that's for sure. It seems as though, now, of course, it's only her side, but it seems as though there was

many, many signs that were delivered and he chose not to see them, but again... A lot of guys don't see those signs, though. They weren't very clear. To your point, I don't think that a lot of guys would have... Well, I don't necessarily feel bad for him. I don't feel bad for a guy who doesn't get laid. say i don't like you that way and then he'll stop his he'll stop wasting his time if you will like a prospect who says i don't have the budget for

this and the guy's not you know it's the same deal i think that the reason you know and she said that it was it was dumb for her to really want to go see the band that metric that she wanted to see i think without that none of this would have i would have, it would have stopped very early on. It's funny how we're now arguing the blog entry from June 2013. Exactly. You should interview this woman. Which has nothing to do, nothing to do with what broke yesterday. It certainly adds, it adds an interesting element to the story, right?

Because it, he warned us of these types of blogs that were going to come. The creep factor with him was high. We know. Just now we need to find out what she's actually accusing him of, which will be interesting. It'll come out soon, I'm sure.

It is very interesting when he suggests that there's going to be tons of other people talking. He says there's going to be lots of other people and the word consent, this is, I believe,

and this is all speculation, but I think the word consent is going to be a big deal here. What is consent in this type of relationship with the safe words and everything? Like it's a little different than your average everyday. Right. And he knows that this is not going to play well with 95% of the population. Interesting. Like my mom and your mom are not going to understand any of this and are going to think that he's a big asshole. Who knows?

Maybe they were tuning in for Oz and showed up early on Showcase as well. Don't ever. That's where I learned everything. I learned everything from that. Please. Any. Did you vote yet? I did.

I voted in the advance polls knowing that. I did too. We would probably be in knee deep in diapers. Your employer has to give you a three hour block where you're not working today correct between eight and eight correct but i when did i vote i voted in the evening one one evening actually two i vote uh last monday we had charles on on wednesdays oh yeah cool did you bring your daughters to yes yes that's important i wanted to say that so every time i vote i make sure the kids are with me uh because i want them to be like part of the process and like to like appreciate this uh

freedom freedom absolutely yes so yeah so we went and voted i think two thursdays ago and uh today is a big day in toronto because i i suspect the turnout will be very high because the people who don't want ford are sort of motivated to vote and the people who do want Ford are motivated to vote. And I think it's going to be a high voter turnout in Toronto. Well, they have said that across the province, Toronto and Oshawa not excluded. Excuse me. That's too early. Toronto and Oshawa not excluded. Excuse me. That. It's too early. Pre-voting turnout has been astronomically high.

But. Did you hear? Which tends to then translate into higher voting day. This is the first year advanced polls had locations in every ward. So typically there was only like. I don't know. What the fuck is wrong with Toronto? Four to six in the whole city.

So you might have to travel like 10K to get to vote in the advanced poll. But this year, every ward had one open advanced so that it was always close to you. So I think that would be a big deal. So Oshawa, I think, had six advanced days to vote.

Yeah. And they were at one location each day. But still, they were like... Yeah, but Oshawa was different. You can travel from one end of the city to another in, you know, 15 minutes. like... Yeah, but Oshawa's different. You can travel from one end of the city to another in, you know, 15 minutes. Although you're very north Oshawa. Yes.

Because the distance from you and the GM plant is rather significant. Yes. So Oshawa's actually really, really long. Yes. I didn't even know because I thought I left Oshawa long before I got to your place.

And it goes much, much more further north than where we are. But yeah, it seems as though we're going to have some pretty heavy turnout, which is good because in Oshawa there is a ballot question. Is there a referendum? It's not a referendum, but it's... What does it say?

They want to return to the ward system. They eliminated wards in the last election, which is so dumb. So now we vote for... So my ballot had something like 50 candidates on it. I had to vote for seven regional and city councillors and three city councillors plus the mayor, which is just, how do you remember all those? Do you have a front runner for mayor,

like a clear front runner or is it? There's no polling in Oshawa, unfortunately, and there's not really any debates either. It seems as though there is a one-two fight between the current incumbent and the mayor who the incumbent beat last-two fight between the current incumbent and the mayor who the incumbent beat last time, who was the previous incumbent.

They're both named John, and it seems as though it's a two-horse race. I did not vote for either of them. Do you have an opinion on the Toronto race? Yeah, I've been a fan of John Tory for a long time, since he was CFL commissioner, and then ran for mayor the first time.

And then also was the leader of the official opposition at Queens Park. And he was my choice right from the very beginning. Well, as Mad Dog said, he looks like a mayor. He does. He looks like a mayor, acts like a mayor. He's an intelligent guy. He wants to make things happen for the city, I think. His transit plan, I think, is a smart one.

No pun intended. Yeah, you're right. No pun intended, actually. The idea that we need to wait 25 years to have a fully functional transit system here, I think, is something that we shouldn't accept. So we'll see. Well, we've already called it. His plan isn't perfect, but I do find it.

There was a couple of politicians that are so funny, like Olivia Chow was standing out We've already called it. His plan isn't perfect, but I do find it. Politicians are so funny. Olivia Chow was standing out in Stouffville saying, his plan is impossible because there's only one track here in Stouffville, and we need to build a second track. Meanwhile, the CEO of Metrolinks is like, yeah, we're kind of building that right now. A lot of that, eh?

Because Doug will say things like, we put a subway in Scarborough, and I'll turn to Monica and say, did you know that there's a new subway? There's no such animal. You haven't even put a hole in the ground. And I don't know if it's the media doing this or just John's people are really smart, but he certainly has bashed the Ford brothers.

But the headline isn't ever that he's being negative. No, because his ads and things are rather positive. It's always very positive, which is smart, right? I mean, I don't understand why politicians do that. Well, one of the problems with Chow's campaign, the progressive candidate, if you will, is that she, I guess they decided early on to attack Tory. That was their path to victory was to attack Tory.

Right. And the problem with attacking Tory relentlessly for her people is that it sort of comes across often like Doug's getting a free pass. Like my perception is Doug will say something completely ridiculous and then John Tory will say something less ridiculous and then Olivia will attack John Tory for what he said, but won't attack Doug Ford for what he said. And I think the progressive, the people who want to vote for Olivia Chow don't like this idea of giving Ford Nation a free pass. I also think that Olivia, while not as polarizing as the Ford brothers, is polarizing in the city.

And I think that hurt her as well. Well, that's where John Tory would be a good mayor, because I feel like he's a conservative guy to appease that crowd. And he's a conservative guy to appease that crowd, but he's not... He's been for years, he's proudly marched in the pride parade and things like that. So he's not... He does a ton of charity work. He does a ton of work with youth in the city. And he seems reasonable. And he seems...

Yeah, it seems like I think we will be well served with John Tory. And the reason why he didn't win the provincial election was because he pissed off his conservative base by actually talking about a very liberal strategy of giving money to a whole bunch of religious schools. Right. And he didn't win the mayoral election, I would say. And for better or worse, and I happen to

actually always liked the guy, but David Miller was a very popular politician. So he lost to David Miller and it was 2003 or something like that. I can't remember now. But, I mean, David Miller was a very popular politician. So he lost to David Miller and it was 03 or something like that. I can't remember now. But I mean, David Miller was an extremely popular politician in the city. Yep, he was. But I also don't think that he was as far left as Olivia is perceived to be. I agree.

I like the guy. My kids still like him because he always, the kids remember him from the Terry Fox runs in High Park every, because we do it every year and he would show up every year and run that thing. I mean, we always joke when we go to this thing, like, Rob Ford was never going to show up at a Terry Fox run. No. Well, he would. I don't think he would for that.

Well, Hazel McCallion showed up at the Mississauga Marathon. Well, it's named after her. That I ran. Oh, because I, me too. But she's not running, right? She's, you know, she's not running right she's you know she's like 100 years old you're wearing a shirt i'm the guy who wrote who did uh run the hazel 5k that 5k is named after her she has to open that fucking thing it's her fucking all right my buddy

this was a there's a lot going on did we miss anything big we talked to you on gomeshi we talked municipal you had a baby last thing uh this sunday is my marathon oh yes uh and so i just want to quickly say thanks to you mike uh for being a great supporter um and uh it's been a long run uh pardon the pun but i'm really excited for sunday i'm not raising any money but if you do feel um compelled to support uh anything support your local hospital that has a cancer center or support Lake Ridge Health Foundation that helped me very much when I was going through treatment. It's 26.2 miles on Sunday in New York City.

I'm extremely excited and proud to be running with a Canadian flag on my back. And while this run is for me, it certainly isn't possible without my wife and my three kids. So this one is for all of them. And I look forward to continuing to kick cancer's ass. Excellent. So when do you leave for New York? I fly out on Thursday morning. Wow. And then I'm actually running a 5k Saturday morning and then i run the full thing on sunday and i will be tweeting as much as i can during the race funny enough because i think that would be uh it would be kind of are you gonna do what you did in dublin and uh stop for a pint didn't you i did i did the legendary story probably not i this one is uh one

that i'm gonna i'm gonna enjoy it but i doubt i'm going to have a beer. Great. No, I'm very proud of you. You look fit and yeah, I think you're going to do a great job. Thanks, Mike. I'm excited. Very good. And I just see from my notes, I did want to mention that Lorne, who's a long time commenter on TorontoMike.com left a, this is going

way back, but we haven't recorded since, he left a very long, heartfelt message about a miscarriage that his wife suffered. And it was one of the most touching and honest comments in the history of this blog. So I just wanted to give a shout out to Lorne and thank him for his honesty. Because I know that TorontoMommy.com linked to it and I shared it via Twitter. because I know that TorontoMommy.com linked to it and I shared it via Twitter. And the feedback was just, that was heart-wrenching.

The detail and the heart and soul he put into that. Pretty brave guy to do that. And yeah, my condolences to you and your family. He said it was cathartic. And that's how I feel too. Like when you write about something like that, I find it's a very cathartic experience. Yep, I agree.

Absolutely agree. And I do want to talk next episode we do together. I have to talk about, I have a Rogers story and I have a story I want to share about a glove, my Fernando Valenzuela glove and Dukes of Hazzard. All of these topics. Should I wear my Daisy Dukes? Do you have Daisy Dukes? I used to have Daisy Duke pillowcase. She was on my pillowcase. This is going back at least two or three years ago.

Hey now. Nice. Was it the original Daisy Duke or was it Jessica Simpson? No, it was the original. Are you kidding me? There was no Jessica Simpson back then. Why did she wear nylons?

By the way, her name is Catherine Bach. That's what it is. You're right. Why did she wear nylons? I didn't realize that, obviously, until I got older. But did you realize that? She would wear nylons underneath her... If you watch the episodes now, the older ones, her legs are really, really shiny because she's wearing nylons. Oh, I didn't know that. It's horrible. I didn't have HD back then.

I missed it. Hey, there's a lot going on, man. We got to get you back in here. Like I said, Ed the Sock is next. And then I got... I need an unpaid intern to try and call in. Tom Hanks and Robert Downey Jr. Tom Hanks would be a great interviewer. He'd be great. I got a lot of questions for him. He's

fucking good. I like him. He'd be like somewhere between Andrew Walker and Greg Brady. Right up the middle. And that brings us to the end of our 93rd show. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike and Elvis at Oshawa Elvis. See you all next week. Peace.