Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Toronto Mike'd #98

Episode Date: December 1, 2014

Mike and Elvis discuss recent guests and current events.

Welcome to the 98th episode of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, often with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from torontomic.com and joining me this week is my buddy Elvis. What's up Mike? You're wearing your precious purple sweater today. I am. I am a Western Mustang today. And that's CIAU football. CIS. But it was CIAU.

Yeah, like a long time ago. When U of T won in 93, it was CIAU. Yeah, they changed it sometime in the late 90s, early 2000s. I'm really behind in my CIS. You are, you are. Come on. But are they in some kind of a bowl game or something? This is the Brian Lawton podcast.

He's the only player in NHL history to wear the number 98 jersey. Oh, cool. Yeah. I had no idea. There you go. That's an amazing fact. So this is 98. So Westerns, they're in something?

Nope. I just decided to be a little bit warmer today and wear my Western hoodie. But no, Western lost the Ontario semifinals. So they've been out for a while. But the Vanier Cup is, I believe, this weekend because the Grey Cup is on Sunday. Cool. Yeah. Quick story because i see that you're sitting in your regular spot and then you see how the ceiling is really low above you yes so yesterday uh colleen rush home was sitting in that seat and she got up very quickly

oh no she pounded her head against that see i thought she was concussed it was an incident oh and i had warned her when she was concussed. It was an incident. And I had warned her when she was coming down, but she forgot. And she just shot right up. Do you have radio insurance here? Yeah, of course. What do you think I spent all my money on? Like a $3 million liability policy you need.

Well, I was worried for a minute. She's a very tall woman. Is she really? Yeah. She's taller than me. It's funny. Most people in radio, outside of Howard Stern, I have this impression of being very short. Okay. Two things against that would be Aaron Davis and Colleen Rushelm,

who are both very tall women. Which is interesting because they're also women, right? Yeah, I know. Traditionally, women are tall. I hate that. I know. Well, my wife is, Mrs. Elvis is the same height as me. And so when she puts on any sort of shoe outside of flat shoes,

she's taller than me, which is, uh, it's not as emasculating as one might think. Cause I don't really care. You don't, you don't stand in a box. It's funny.

No, no, it is. It is funny though. The image I, I know is a funny one. Please, uh,

tell us ASAP how the new york marathon went good uh the new york city marathon mike was the greatest experience that i've ever had um greater than the birth of your three children in the way don't be fucking crazy all right uh it was a lot of fun it was uh the mean, the worst parts of the marathon were the start and the finish where there was a lot of waiting around and walking and standing and being cold. And, but just the, the support of that city for the marathon. So more than 50,000 people finished the marathon, more than a million people watched the marathon. It was like you were in a parade for yourself. The only time that you weren't around spectators was when you were crossing the bridges. And as you crested the Queensborough Bridge and made your way into Manhattan, and you came down that hill off of the bridge and turned the corner to go onto First Avenue, there were thousands and thousands of people just cheering, going bonkers, and it was just electrifying. It was the greatest feeling ever. I ran for the first time in a marathon without a watch, without timing. I had no idea how fast

or slow I was going. I just wanted to take it all in and absorb it. And I ended up finishing only nine minutes slower than my personal best. I was extremely happy with my time, extremely happy with the experience. I know that I've got more in me and I can't wait to go back should I be lucky enough to win the lottery again. I'm going to run a 10th marathon next year. And I'm really looking forward to reliving that experience in New York again. Cool. Very good. A lot of fun. Thank you. Is that the world's second most like biggest marathon? They're, they're sort of the big five. There's London, Chicago, Boston, New York, and I'm missing one. I can't remember what the fifth one is, but that those are sort of like the big five sort of world championship kind

of things. It is the large, I believe it's the largest amateur one day amateur sporting event, but I could be wrong on that. It said there's some sort of record that they hold for being a sporting event. And I believe that's what it is. Cool.

What was the attempts like that day? Remind me. It was really, really cold, super windy they actually had to so you start on the on the staten island side of the staten island bridge and they had to move the start of the wheelchair start to the other end of the staten island bridge so their marathon was actually about a mile shorter than a full marathon because of the

wind they literally get not a marathon going over and i don't want to be an asshole but it's not a marathon they did not run a marathon or did not want to be an asshole, but it's not a marathon. They did not run a marathon or did not ride a marathon that day. But it was extremely windy. So that meant for pretty cold temperatures. Crazy. Cool. My brother, Steve, who you know, he thinks I should draw up the numbers.

Like this is episode 98. My brain, every episode has a number and that's how I sort of refer to it. And that's how i remember it he thinks the numbers make it seem small what do you think he thinks that some he thinks the numbers are they've got to go i think after 100 yeah because then what do i do i just call it the calling rush home episode or the ed the sock it's the toronto mic podcast all right i uh, right? From a logistics standpoint, obviously I can name the file names, can keep numbers, but externally, I guess. Like Adam Carolla or Stuff You Should Know, like all those guys.

Like Stuff You Should Know, I think used to number their podcasts, but I don't think that they say it. But when you download it, it says what episode it is. I think they used to do that. But yeah, I'm with your brother on it. but yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm with your brother on it. I mean, I might buy either way. I don't really care, but I would agree now that I think about it. Yeah. It's probably makes it look smaller. I wanted your opinion because this is a big deal. I think once I clear a hundred, these numbers are gone. I'll then do fifties if you want to, or, or do just do hundreds. I have a lot to think about. You do. Uh, you've only got two episodes before a hundred.

It's happening. Also, I want to say that I love my winter boots. We had a couple of days where there was snow on the ground. So I went out in my new winter. So, okay, quick backstory is I've never spent money on winter boots. Like I've had shitty boots some winters, including last winter, which was a terrible winter. I didn't even have winter boots. Okay. I didn't wear any winter boots. I just wore regular shoes. I do bike every day, so I wear running shoes, and then I just kept that going, which is silly in hindsight. But I decided to invest in quality winter boots.

And I mean, I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. My feet are warm and dry, and I enjoy walking in the snow because there's no discomfort. I'm enjoying my new winter boots. They went to a good pair of winter boots of which there is only one type of good pair of winter boots. Is that true? You get a pair of those and you're good.

You're gold. What is the one kind of good winter boots? What are they? What are they fucking called? Bogs? Are they bogs? I think they're bogs. Is bogs, we should disclose,

is Bogs a new sponsor? They might be after this. They should be, but they're not. So we can disclose that. okay, Bogs. So,

yeah, I think I found an online coupon too. Like, so I, when I bought them online, I used a coupon code. Look at you. And it dropped 30%.

Google is an amazing thing, isn't it? It was like, so regularly they were like 130. Seriously, for those of you listening, if you need a pair of winter boots, there's only one kind that work consistently. You'll buy one pair and it'll last you forever. Bogs. I'm telling you. See, I know what you're doing.

I'm telling you. I know what you're doing because you're a jerk. Here's what you're doing. You are purposely referring to it as one pair that works because I sense some tension on the internets, particularly Twitter, with you and big fan Liz. There's no tension whatsoever. Liz has a different brand that she swears by.

Everybody's wrong once in a while. And I did see, I wish I had screen capped these. I could have extrapolated on this. What did you call it? Bootgate? Yeah, Bootgate 2014 um Liz is probably listening so I don't think Liz had a brand of boots it was a bit more expensive I remember I did consider her brand and then I considered your brand I and I did yours was a little cheaper and there was some good things I liked about it I ended up going with your brand but it was no disrespect to Liz's brand of boots which are probably also

amazing see I'm a diplomat. It's fine. You can wear what... I don't... Like, I'm not making any money off of it. I'm just telling you what I've experienced. But you have this, like, evil grin on your face. Because it's hilarious. She was very passionate about the boots. That's what I remember. What did you say to her that she quoted back to you? Something about, uh, they're just fucking boots or

something like that? Something like that, yeah. I can't remember. I just don't want you and Liz to fight anymore. I'm not fighting with her. Especially over boots. I have no quarrel with Liz. Besides, she'd probably just curse me out anyway, but I have no quarrel with Liz whatsoever. Hey, what happens on a wintry day

when you come over in your bogs and they're the same style? You sent me the link to what you bought and I actually bought that, so we have the same boot. I don't know what your size is, but I know it's a personal question but if the boots are like side by side you're gonna go home in my boots my name is stitched

into the inside yes i put some marker on i put white out on the outside with my name on it what size are you uh i'm not gonna disclose that that's too personal information it might be a differentiator because if we're not even close I would never pop into like size 11. Like my brother Ryan has like 11 or 12 or something. And I never even look at them and think they're mine because I have these tiny nines. Like they're not size 9. That's not mine. But if you were like size 9, we could have a big problem.

I think we would have a big problem. Holy shit. We got to make sure we don't record on snowy days. We're small men. You know what? We're small men. I used to have like a size 9 because everyone's like, oh, I got like size 13 shoes or whatever. And I'm like, oh my God, you're so much bigger than I am.

Fucking gangly hobbits. That's what they are. I mean, the fact that I don't bump my head all the time on the ceiling. I'm a good size for longevity. How tall are you? 5'9". Yeah. I have, by the way, recent guests.

What's your waist size? What size jeans do you wear? My jeans are 31 waist. But they're a little big. But I probably have 30 waist right now. I'm 32. Maybe 31. It's like Seinfeld. Remember he used to change? Jerry changed the number because of his vanity.

That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to wear much bigger jeans. As you know, I lost weight in the last few years and I've kept it off. And I have a much smaller waist. I'm a smaller guy now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to wear much bigger jeans. As you know, I lost weight in the last few years, and I've kept it off, and I have a much smaller weight. I'm a smaller guy now. Yeah, me too. Look at me. What size t-shirt do you wear?

Medium. Yeah, me too. I can wear small, but then I look like one of those douchey guys with muscle teeth. Then you have to frost your tips. Yeah. See, this Optimus Prime shirt here is a medium that I'm wearing today. Right, okay. Which everyone thinks, when people see it, they go, oh, it's a Transformer shirt.

And I feel like sad. Like, that's not a Transformer shirt. That is from PuckingFunny.com and it is an Optimus Rhyme shirt for James Rhymer. It's tough times in the Optimus Rhyme universe right now, isn't it? It is. He's definitely back up now. Like, there was like, for a while, I thought maybe he could come back and steal it. But he's so clearly the backup that I don't even consider him like a challenger for the starting role.

Both him and Ben Scrivens are not having good years. But Ben has no defense in front of him at all. No, there's no defense at all. They did some, I don't know. I'm not a Corsi. He's no grand fear. Corsi's a big thing. I don't go dive into the analytics too deep.

But once in a while, I'll read a tweet about it. And Wilner loves the analytics, but more on that in a minute. The fact is, apparently, that it doesn't matter who's in net. If Patrick Wan's prime was in net, it wouldn't be much different. Edmonton, there's a lot more quality shots. It's a whole different story. Well, that's what happens when you draft number one for 17 years in a row and every single person you draft is a centerman or a winner.

Yeah, I've got to look back and see. You've got to have some big, tough defensemen. Like, where's the Shea Webers of that team? Or Chris Pronger. Pronger. That would have solved a lot of issues if he actually would have, like, stayed. Even today, if he wants to come back.

Oh, yeah. Well, his wife didn't like it there. Yeah. I can't blame her. But, I mean, you know, it's, whatever. Okay, so you had a, here we are doing, like, sponsor mentions for a minute here.

There's not a sponsor, but you did drive, like, a Chevy Tahoe or something. I did. CQ is going to be really upset. CQ doesn't listen. At the library, where is he going to listen? Poor guy. Yeah, I was contacted not by Chevy, but by Clout.

I was informed. Really? Yeah, I was informed. This fascinates me because I was contacted by our friend. Oh, right. Okay. Natalie. Natalie, yeah. Who's lovely. Yeah, she's very. This fascinates me because I was contacted by our friend. Oh, right. Okay. Natalie. Natalie, yeah.

Who's lovely. Yeah, she's very lovely. She's Filipino. I got an email from Clout saying that I have a Clout perk waiting for me in my account. That's amazing. And it was all automated through the internet. Like your score was at a certain point where they said, here's a car for four days? They identified me as an influencer.

What's your score? It ranges between 63 and 66. I don't know my score. You should sign up. What's it tied to? Your Twitter? It's tied to all your social media networks, but the networks have different weighting within your algorithm.

The algorithm is unknown. Some people either really believe in it or some people say it's bullshit um whatever i i just signed up have you connected all yours because i would only ever connect twitter because i do because i have a lot of activity on facebook so like today i'm today i'm going crazy with the the black friday mentions so people are really loving it lots of comments my original idea was that we were going to pretend this is december 1st like it's not we're not gonna do it now. That was my belief until you mentioned that Colleen Rushman

was here yesterday. Because we're recording on Friday, but I'm actually not posting this until Monday. So, by the way, if you die on the weekend, because if you die

on the weekend, I can put this up Monday and say he's really alive, guys, listen. This could be like a Robin Williams movie that they're releasing. Yeah.

Isn't there like four movies? Philip Seymour Hoffman is in the new new hunger games oh right yes so there you go and there I saw a trailer for the Robin Williams Christmas movie or something it looks like a stupid Christmas movie which I know I'm gonna love and you're gonna hate much like four Christmases yeah because I thought four Christmases was not very funny you that is nice for you to say I like old school yeah that was nice of you to say that you didn't think it

was funny because you've been vicious with Four Christmases in the past. But are there like passionate Four Christmas fans? Four Christmases fans? But you have this tendency that if someone says that they like something, you hear that they love it. That is your tendency. Because I'm looking at the wire DVD set here and I'm like, I feel like to me, like the wire is to me as four Christmases is to you. See, again, I rest my case, Your Honor. I rest my case.

All right. So you got a Chevy Tahoe. So I got a shout out. And so it was, they said you can have test drive a Chevy Tahoe. Yeah. And you can get a couple of tickets to the World Junior Championship Games. So you had to pick a game and you had to pick a time period where you could test drive the Tahoe. And so Thursday morning, a guy knocks on my door and says, hey, your Tahoe is in the driveway.

And it was not just a Tahoe. It was wrapped completely in World Junior Championship. And it had your Twitter handle on it. And it had my Twitter handle on the back, which was pretty cool. And yeah, so I got it for the weekend. in the back was yeah just a ton of swag so what tell me because i wonder what it is a team canada hockey bag that's cool team canada hockey bag with a team canada hockey jersey inside i love uh a team canada puck hockey stick uh there was uh steering wheel covers that were Team Canada. Floormats that were Team Canada.

See, I like the jersey. And seat covers that were Team Canada. Very good. And as you know, there was no strings attached, no obligation for me to do anything. Didn't have to fill up the tank. Other than to use it. And I'm guessing that I'm going to get the tickets for the game closer to the event.

What game did you pick? I can't remember now, but I did not have the choice of a Canada game. This is what I remember. I think there was a semi-final game that I could have chosen, and I might have chosen that one, actually. Because one's going to be here,

and one's going to be in Montreal. Okay, so maybe I'm going to the semi-final game. I can't remember. That's cool. I can't remember. But it was fun. It was nice to be... I was told that there was eight people selected,

so it was nice to be... That's unbelievable. Maybe they picked you because you're close to the plan. A short drive. Well, see, the funny thing is that I was in the email that said that you had to be between Pickering and Mississauga to participate. So I used my parents' address. And then I emailed them and said, hey, I can't do this anymore because I wasn't able to get to Mississauga. And they said, are you sure?

And now I know why they were so forceful because they had personalized the car for me, right? And so I said, can you meet me in Oshawa? And they said, actually, of course. The plant is in Oshawa. Where do you think the car is coming from? Exactly. So it worked out really, really well.

And of course, the guys from Chevrolet were super, super nice. Or I guess they weren't from Chevrolet. I think they were from Mosaic or something. Oh, wow. McLaren. They were from an agency. But they were super nice guys. And they were from Mosaic or something. Oh, wow. McLaren. They were from an agency. But they were super nice guys,

and the whole thing was a great experience. Okay, cool. It was a lot of fun. Now I feel bad because you just did that. Now I quickly have to just say I was at the Ross Petty musical Cinderella. It's a gags to riches story, so they do this every year.

19 years in a row at the Elgin Winter Garden or Elgin Theater, whatever we call it now. And the kids, all four of us went yesterday to this thing. And it's very funny. We went a couple of years ago. All ages. It's just funny. So we all laughed quite a bit last night in the theater.

The Elvis household is really looking forward to the new Cinderella movie that is coming out in March. Is it a straight to video release? No, no, no. This is like a real-deal live-action. Cate Blanchett is the evil stepmother, and one of the guys from Game of Thrones is Prince Charming. The short guy?

Yeah, the prince guy. Like, the prince guy who gets... I don't know Game of Thrones at all. Oh, okay. Not the short guy. I'm trying to reject you, because I might do it one day. Not the short guy.

Okay. But, I mean, whatever. It's Cinderella. No, I mean, your girls are like prime Cinderella age. Oh, yeah. They love that stuff. So it's a big deal. How's your newborn doing?

He's still a newborn, right? Yeah. I don't know when you leave that. Six weeks, seven weeks? Yeah, that's a newborn. He's doing well. Is he walking yet? He's eating like a champ, sleeps like a champ.

He's a good kid. Good kid. Very good. Okay. Special K. I don't know if you ever ate Special K, did you? Do you eat cereal? I eat a...

Do you ever eat a bowl of cereal? Yeah. I eat cereal every morning. But not kid cereal. I classify Special K as a kid cereal. Rice Krispies is the kid cereal. And there's a lot of sugar in that fucking cereal, man. You should cut that out, brother.

You're wrong. Hold on. Let's talk about facts for a minute here. Special K has never been marketed to kids, ever. I know it's marketing, but it's not a kid's cereal. Kids will do like the Rice Krispies. It's got the snap, crackle, and pop. That's marketed to kids, although I do enjoy a bowl of that once in a while.

But Special K was always marketed towards adults. It's a lot of shit in that. I looked at the labels closely. It was actually pretty good compared to most cereals. It had, per serving size, had two grams of sugar, which is relatively low compared to most cereals on the market. And it was below my three grams of sugar threshold. And it had a lot of decent shit going on in there.

But they closed the plant in London, Ontario. Yeah, I've heard from a lot of my friends in London in there but they uh closed the plant in london ontario yeah i've heard from a lot of my friends in london that they're not happy about that well i think 500 people lost their job i think so it's never good i remember driving by that plant similar to the christy biscuit place and smelling the cereal did you know right which that christy's gone too did you know that uh we had our formula? Special K was special for Canada. I'm not surprised. And it was only made in that plant. I'm not surprised.

I am. I blew my way. Really? I just assumed America had the same Special K we did. Merica? Merica. I just assumed. And then anyways, long story short is when they shut down the plant,

they stopped making our special Special K. So it's no longer available anywhere in this damn city. And now they import the U.S. Special K and put French on it, I guess. Is that General Mills? No, Kellogg's. That's what the K thinks. Isn't it special K? I think K.

Yeah, you're right. In fact, the K is like stylized like the Kellogg's K. So anyways, I'm just here to say that I'm disappointed that one of my favorite cereals is never going to be available again, and it's sad to me. Well, you could take this opportunity to actually eat a cereal. So honestly, of all the cereals to point out being bad for you, honestly, I want to hear what cereal you're going to recommend because most cereals have far more sugar in it

than the old Special K, if it's two grams per serving. The cereal I eat has no additives in it whatsoever. It's called Dorset cereals, and it's just all natural oats and nuts. It's like 10 bucks a box, though. Notes. No, it's $6.99, I think. Something like that. And then I put in some chia seeds, some hemp hearts, and some berries.

Alfalfa sprouts. And I get some good eats in the morning, my friend. No, that's good. That's good. My coffee is my breakfast today. Okay, so that's my special K issue. You're welcome for that coffee, by the way. I just want the entire podcast universe to know that I bought you a venti at Starbucks. Okay, I want the entire podcast universe to know that the microphones and the mixing board were $1,600.

I've given it to you. $1,600. It's the it to you. $1,600. It's the Christmas blend because we're in the Christmas spirit. Did you know that I punched a 90-year-old woman right in the face today so I could get a TV from her? By the way, you're making a Black Friday joke. Don't you know it's December 1st? This was never going to work in hindsight. Okay, first of all, you and I, I think, are similar in that although you have a Costco wing,

so I know that's mainly for toilet paper, which is a necessity. I don't consume anything. I don't consume anything. Do you know this? I don't buy anything. You're consuming right now. I know. I should reframe. I don't consume much. I don't... Black Friday, I would never buy anything on Black Friday because I don't want any stuff at all.

We just spent 10 minutes talking about Special K. That's different. It's a necessity. It's consuming. Food doesn't count and coffee doesn't count. I don't want any stuff at all. We just spent 10 minutes talking about Special K. That's different. It's necessity. It's consuming. Food doesn't count and coffee doesn't count. I don't buy stuff. Except for the $1,600 worth of equipment. I got a message today. So I've been playing around on Facebook this morning telling people that I've been waiting in line and camping out and stuff. Obviously not true whatsoever. I was actually doing it from the warmth of my bed. You could have paid a homeless guy to hold your spot. Exactly. Exactly. It's very early. I did get a message from a neighbor of mine saying, hey, are you really in line? I'm on my way right now. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, I'm totally in line. And

he's like, I said, what are you getting? And he said, oh, I'm going to go get a video game for my son. And I said, don't you know they sell that shit online? And he went to Target this morning at 630 in the morning. He said his excuse was he was awake and was going to go get a coffee anyway, so why not just go see what it was all about? He said Target at 6.30 in the morning was a madhouse. It was more people than he's ever seen in his life in that store, which I guess isn't really saying much for Target.

However, he went to go get a video game, and there was not one single video game left. This is why I hate this. They have like, oh, we have 50 of these. Right. Come on. I worked in stores for five years. They put all of the video games in the back.

You know they did. Not only that, first of all, every employee in the back is going to put these out who has a buddy who's holding on to a bunch. I remember these days when we had the last leaders at the Price Chopper or the Food City. I was at wolko you were walking out you played it too yeah and even the uh the regular guy is like hey buddy like they'll come up maybe they'll give you five bucks or whatever like put some aside for me or whatever it was all in the back come on yeah don't fall for

this but they they got to get you in so you buy all your trinkets and stuff i bought three tvs with vcrs built in my brother once ryan not steve once went for milk and came home this is back in the rear projection tv days before they came out with like lcds and plasmas but he once went for milk and came back with like on he didn't even pay cash he bought it like where you pay monthly or whatever so it's probably and i'm i don't know i'm guessing but he probably ended up spending 10 grand on this big ass tv which he still has it he bought when he went for milk one day. And it... Like an impulse buy.

You need like 17 people to move it around probably. It's the worst ever. Whereas the new TVs, you can just like spin on one finger. Behind you, there's the old Sony Chinatron 27-inch, which I moved here. CRT. I told Monica, I'm never moving it again, because it really... Two men to carry a 27-inch television?

Exactly. I can carry like with my left pinky, I can lift up, like, a 27-inch flat screen. The only time you're going to move that is when you put it in the dumpster, my friend. I know. That's it. But it won't die. Like, I keep thinking it'll die. But that thing's, like, going 20 years. It won't die. It just works. And I can't get rid of it yet because it's still down here in case I have a World Cup game on. You know, every four years I use it.

Right. You've got that little cable box on this? Yeah. It's got the free adapter. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I'm ready to go. I got TSN and Sportsnet. Okay. So I wanted to just quickly catch up on some recent guests. So since you were last in that seat, there's been four guests.

Oh, my God. This happens in waves, you know. Ready for the names? Oh, my God. And then I know you haven't listened to any of them. Let me know, like, just based on the name, whether you're interested in listening. You ready? Yes. Ed the Sock. Maybe. any of them are let me know like just based on the name whether you're interested in listening you ready yes ed the sock maybe is how the sock is a maybe so it's a it's an hour long correct yeah and 10 minutes of that at the end is that the sock no he adds in the beginning for a bit

but he's mainly the last 15 how did that work so when he was great okay without giving away any trade secrets here i guess i mean you don't have to answer this if you don't want to. But let me interview you here for a second. When Ed the Sock was sitting in this seat, or the guy who does Ed the Sock... Stephen Kersner. When Stephen Kersner was sitting in this seat, and then Ed the Sock was... You were interviewing Ed the Sock. Did Ed the Sock come out on his hand, and actually he did Ed the Sock sock with the movements or did he just do the voice?

I will explain to you everything in complete honesty. First of all, Ed the Sock was in a suitcase, like a special kind of, he's a special box. Okay, makes sense. He was in that box.

Like a ventriloquist. Until we were done recording, in which case, he came out for photos. Right. I took a photo of Ed and Ed got in the microphone. All that was done

after recording. Ed did not make an appearance. So, Stephen Kersner, by the way, speaking of like, you know how Colleen Rush home and aaron davis were tall woman yeah steven kersner is not a tall man yeah i actually felt pretty fucking tall really yeah good for him he's like by me five two or something really yeah wow uh so very very nice guy so so he said i didn't know how to do i'm not a do you know i'm not a professional really i've never been paid off to

broadcast so steven kersner sitting there at the beginning i'm talking to both of them and he's I didn't know how to do it. Do you know I'm not a professional? Really? I've never been paid to broadcast. So Stephen Kersner is sitting there. At the beginning, I'm talking to both of them, and he's going back and forth with the voices. Really? And I'm trying my best. I think I did a pretty good job. I listened back, and I actually think I did a pretty good job. It's not that easy.

It's all happening in real time, and you've got to make sure you don't screw up or whatever. At some point, Ed says he has to take a shit. Okay. So we make some cracks. He's going up to the washroom now. And literally, we made the sound of like footsteps, like Ed walking away. He's going up to use the shitter.

Okay. I never knew Ed had feet. Yeah, I know. So me and Steven are now here. We talk about the origin and the history of Ed the Sock. And like did the Triumph the Comic Intel Dog, was that stolen from Ed? And we talk about different interesting things

interesting shit trust me I should listen then because I'd be interested one of my favorite episodes and then at some point Ed comes back and then Stephen Kersner

says he better move his car fuck I've been out there for over an hour now I gotta move the car so he's got a whole routine yeah so I'm like yeah Steve get out there

and move that fucking car or whatever and then Ed's now alone and now Ed and I are gonna talk and this is where it Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, Steve, get out there and move that fucking car or whatever. And then Ed's now alone. And now Ed and I are going to talk. And this is where it's, so now I'm talking to Ed, okay? Ed's a bit snarky. Did you know that? He's a smart ass.

Ed's probably hilarious. Can I tell you, I was an Ed fan, but I became far more of an Ed fan interviewing Ed in person, if that sounds ridiculous. Because Ed's, and I know it's Stephen Kersner, okay? Hey, you just fucking told everybody Santa Claus doesn't exist. I'm like the guy who pulls the curtain back and reveals the wizard, okay?

Kersner, who does Ed, is sharp and funny and he nails it. He did some commentary on Ford Nation and Gian Gomeschi. He said what I'm thinking in a funny smart way and i'm like fucking that's ed the fucking sock doing that like give this man a fucking i don't know forget rex murphy doing his thing on the national let ed do it ed's commentary on what's

going on spot on you know what and ed takes a much better picture as well than you do his pictures are like he doesn't look like deer in headlights in any of his pictures. You know what? I don't know how to take a photo, but I don't, you have no idea. But, but,

but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but,

but. There's one, I think one picture I've seen of you that was good. Just one? Just one. Oh, the professional roots one?

I think, that's what I use for like my Skype photo and everything now. Why are we, what about, what is this? This is Cheers. I know. I played it, dumbass. Listen, i'm playing this because i just want to let you know and another guest i just wanted to

let you know i'm a little ahead of schedule because i'm going through the guests we had to add the sock you should listen colleen rush home and you notice this is not the original what fucking version is this that i play what is this this is zampier i think you know i just searched quickly. I was adding it to my soundboard, and I searched it with Cheers. I almost picked up the Rihanna. Cheers, I drink to that or whatever. Cheers, drink to that.

And then I picked up this, and I figured, okay. I had no idea what version it was. This is Zamfir and Kenny G. That's what this is. Can you believe Kenny G was a thing? He was a thing in the 90s. He was a thing. I know.

Who had worse hair, Michael Bolton or Kenny G? It's tough to go. Michael Bolton's disappeared. I think Kenny's is still there. Michael Bolton's still performing. Performing with no hair. And he's at Casino Rama. Okay, so I'm playing this for a reason. Let me cut to this chase.

Colleen Rusholm, who's lovely, she was sitting there. You don't know this because you haven't listened. But this is available now to anyone. Episode 97, soon these numbers. I'm going to keep the numbers. 99 cents? I'm keeping the numbers. 99 cents for the podcast?

97, yeah, 97 cents. Okay. She looked me in the eyes, and I swear to you, she said, I had very nice hair, okay? And I'm like, oh, thank you. You know what she says? You look like Ted Danson. Get out of here. Swear to you. And I,

and she's, she's looking at me. I thought she made me pull my leg. I'm like, I go, Ted Danson is very handsome. What a handsome man. Okay. Here's a question for you. First of all, I don't agree, but that's very nice. I'll take the compliment. Ted Danson or Tom Selleck today. Are you asking me who I would F Mary kill? Is that the game? Who would you F? Tom Selleck today. Are you asking me who I would F Mary Kill? Is that the game? Who would you F? Tom Selleck for me. I think he is super hot.

I think, uh, I don't like Tom Selleck's politics. I'm going to F, uh, I like, uh, Ted Danson.

Ted Danson to me is a more likable, he was in all the Larry David Curb Your Enthusiasm and stuff. I'm going to guess that Ted Danson. I'm going with Tom Selleck. Um, even though Tom Selleck dyes his hair, obviously, but I think his hair is real. You just like mustaches. Whereas Ted Danson obviously doesn't have real hair.

I said that to her. You know, that's the other thing. So I said, well, Ted Danson's bald. And she's like, what are you talking about? Because she's watching the show. She didn't know that he had a toupee? No. And I said, well, like even at the end of Cheers, he was wearing a piece.

Yeah, yeah, forever. And she's like, she had no idea, first of all. She's watching him on a show, Damages or something. And she sees his hair and loves his hair. And I'm telling her, that's fake hair. And she's like, well, you look like Ted in his fake hair. First of all, she says to me, I can't be the first person who's told you that. Like, she's telling me, like, everyone must think you look like Ted Danson.

First of all, I'm 40 years old. I've never been told I look like Ted Danson. And Ted is so fucking handsome. We need pictures side by each. Then she took out her phone and she says, I want to take a picture. She's going to send it to her friends and say, I was sitting down with Ted Danson. I think you should do this on the blog. You should put Ted Danson and then you

and then see what the readers think. Do you think she has vision issues? Prepare to be roasted. I'm realist. I don't think I look like Ted Danson, but Colleen Rusholm does think i look like ted danson but colleen rush home does think i look like ted dan well good for you i'll take it there was a moment in this and i'm out of order now but whatever also colleen was in that seat so there was a there was a moment in this podcast when she um oh shit i was diving into a point and then the point has left

me okay so she talked about my hair and oh yeah she was talking to me like about a reference from like i don't know mid 80s or something and she said something to the if that was uh as if she's 10 years older than me okay okay so she's like oh you wouldn't remember like something like that right and i look at her right because i'm looking at her i'm thinking i'm talking to like like you you're a couple years younger than me but we're in the same ballpark yeah i'm looking at her maybe and then colleen i'm looking at her thinking like she's, I think. Maybe. And then Colleen, I'm looking at her thinking like, she's got to be my age. I'm like, how old do you think I am? So I tell her I'm 40. Right.

How old do you think Colleen Rusholm is? Who's talking to me as if I'm 10 years younger. I have no idea. 41. Yeah. And I'm like, 10 years. She told you her age? Yeah, she said it.

And are you allowed to say it out loud? She said it on the podcast. Oh, wow. Good for her. I don't talk out of school. Good for her. That's how I keep my rep. No, she said it on the podcast. Funny thing is, Good for her. I don't talk out of school. That's how I keep my rep. No, she said it on the podcast.

Funny thing is, I also mentioned like a humble Howard hating Derringer. Okay. And she's looking at me. Really? Is that true? Yeah. And she's looking at me and I could tell she's worried.

You know why she's worried? Because she thinks this is something Howard only told us off air, like in private. Right, right, right, right. And I have to like assure her. I listen every day to this humble and fed podcast. It was longtime fodder for the public airwaves, okay? Humble's put this in the public realm by talking about this podcast.

What's the story? I don't know. Something about Derringer didn't like Humble. I don't know the exact origins, although they're both going to be in here next week. Both of them. These two mics? Together? Humble and Fred, yeah.

Oh, not Humble and Derringer. No, Humble and Fred would be amazing. That would be, not Humble and Derringer. No, Humble and Fred would be amazing. That would be great. Humble and Derringer. That would be great. I don't know, but there was some gig that Humble was emceeing

and an award was going to Derringer and Derringer totally like... Just ripped him? No, just ignored him completely or something. Right. Just ignored his existence.

Well, they would have been longtime rivals, right? Because even though they worked for the same company, they would have been rivals. Okay, but when did the even though they worked for the same company they would have been rivals okay but when did the company like when did Chorus own these two states

because it was I don't know there was a whole bunch of shit going on but bottom line is yeah apparently Derringer Derringer's friendly with Fred

but won't even like well Derringer certainly is opinionated as is Howard right which I think makes you think it's two alpha males clashing

well I think it makes for two of the, it makes them a reason why they're both successful. And I think, you know, while Fred is certainly opinionated, I think he's, how do I say this without, I don't mean any disrespect to Fred whatsoever.

I like Fred. Disrespect the shit out of these guys. Who cares? I think in the Humble and Fred relationship, I think Humble is the alpha male. Does that make sense? Yeah, he does. He's the guy who,

he's the leader of the two in the radio part for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll do the breaks and stuff. Yeah, so I think, yeah, I think that, you know, I think both of them have,

I don't know, they both have big dicks to swing around and maybe, you know, they just, you know, whatever. Yeah, I don't know, I've never met Derringer, but I maybe, you know, they just... Yeah, I don't know. I've never met Derringer, but I do. I have. He's a very...

I sat in on their show for a morning. Because Colleen worked with Derringer and I asked her straight out. I said, what do you think of Derringer as a human being? And she would not answer the question. She changed it to, what is he like as a broadcaster?

Okay, but... Come on, if he's lovely class, then later about Mad Dog. There's a lot of shit there with Derringer, though. He was an addict and had serious problems. Steve Anthony? I don't know about Steve Anthony. I guess.

Everyone knows about Steve Anthony. But Derringer fell off the cliff, and he's talked about this on the air. I'm not saying anything out of school either. He had a lot of personal issues with alcohol and drugs, and when he was in Montreal, there was a lot of personal issues and with alcohol and drugs. And when he was in Montreal, there was a lot of shit going down. Um, so he, I'm sure, you know, with that comes a certain amount of, you know, not treating people well, but I would imagine, I would imagine now that he's, you know, married and has daughters and stuff that he's somewhat mellowed, but at the same time,

he also is the number one morning guy in Toronto. So I'm sure there's a certain amount of swagger that still goes on. Hold on. I got Matt G certain amount of swagger that still goes along with that. Hold on, I got Matt Galloway on line two. He wants to challenge that statement. Matt, go ahead. Okay, you guys can't hear this because the audience fucked up again, but Matt's saying he's number one.

Who the fuck is Matt Galloway? You serious? Yeah. I'm going to move along. I can't believe you said that. I don't know who Matt Galloway is. Really? Yeah.

No clue. Do you know who Andy Barry is? Yes. Well, his successor on the most popular morning show in the city is Matt Galloway. Are we sure about that? I listen all the time, yeah. Are they number one? Oh, really?

Oh, I can't remember with the new system and the old system for sure. Because Q107 is the morning show. But his demo, they go by. The morning show has been number one forever. Yeah, but you're going by demos. They don't talk in terms of ears because they would get screamed. They only talk about men from this age to that age. So they'll talk like, okay, men, I don't know, 39 to 54 were number one or something like that.

They talk demos. They don't talk overall. They're number one maybe for their demo, maybe. Because the younger guy is like 102, right? And then the older guy is like Q107. But the woman, for example, like CHFI and 104.5, but I think there's something to, I think, and I could be wrong because that could have changed,

but for a long time, that CBC Radio 1 morning show was the most listened to radio show. Interesting. And I can't believe you didn't know Matt Galloway. He's great. He's really great. I don't listen to terrestrial radio. Because you have Howard Stern on. Or just Sirius. Howard Stern's four hours of the day. The rest of the time is serious.

I know, and I like it too. But I buy it. Can't stand terrestrial radio. It's horrible. No ads though. It's horrible. I know. I sound like I work for the CBC sometimes,

and I know they're having rough days lately, but I will defend a lot of their programming is very intelligent and very entertaining. And Matt Galloway does a great job. That's all. They're not a sponsor. They can't afford to sponsor this podcast. Just like they couldn't afford hockey.

Well, I'm still looking forward to the day where I get to hand over my paycheck to Cheryl, who's going to be sitting in this seat. Oh, bless you. They started picking on Cheryl last week. Did they? A Tuesday open mic or something. They were picking on Cheryl. And I thought I was stepping in.

I'm not going to let nature take its course for a bit. Because every time they pick on Cheryl, she sends me a note to say she's gone because they don't want her there. And I step in and tell her ignore those idiots because I want you there. And then she comes back. I have a strange relationship with Cheryl. I like Cheryl. I do treat her

differently than everyone else though. I don't comment as much as I used to because I don't find it enjoyable. Oh, because it's all Irvine versus RNG? Yeah, right. Yeah. With a little Mississauga feel. Irvine has an opinion on everything

and he's always right and just says... You know what? I don't know what to do about it because I did ban him. It's boring. And then he's back. You know, I had to fill the Corey void because Corey left and I...

That's right. I just had to fill it in with an Irvine. But I don't know. You know, commenters are... You know, what can you do? That's the problem with democracy. Hey, it's all good. I read your blog.

I just don't comment. As often. Like most people. Yeah. Everyone should comment. Okay, Ash. Okay, after Ed the Sock came, Ash from Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker. That's right.

I already know from your like Aerosmith and ACDC love that you're not going to know who Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker is. No clue. That's amazing too. I only know them. The Matt Galloway one blows me away more than that one. I only know that from you. What about

like, I got limited inspiration. Coming out the yin yang. I really, really, really want to do. Nope. Maybe if I heard the actual song. Because they played it a lot during the Stanley Cup playoffs. I don't do it justice. Anyway, Ash was in here sitting there. I only had a. I know. I don't do it justice. Anyway, Ash was in here sitting there.

I only had a half an hour. I think I stole 35 minutes. And I very much enjoyed this interview, A, because I really love that band and I find him interesting, but B, because his thought process, he's very abstract, but he's very quick with it. Like the synapses are firing very quickly. And it was actually, I felt it was a challenge to almost keep up with the man. It was a very different interview than I've done.

And I enjoyed it. Cool. Very good keep up with the man. It was a very different interview than I've done, and I enjoyed it. Cool. Very good. Then we had Mike Wilner. That's one that I'm definitely going to listen to. Because I want to see how much he's arrogant to you. I think I was fair, but I definitely didn't give him free passes. And you asked him the questions from what I gather from the comments in the blog. You questioned him on his supposed arrogantness.

How could I have Mike Wilner in my presence for an hour and not ask him about it? I would want him to yell at me. I would just want him to yell at me and walk out. And I know he knows. I have a feeling he's misunderstood. A commenter wrote this as well, and I agree.

He's extremely rational. And I'm not saying... So there's a bit of arrogance to that, but a lot of it is he just refuses to, like, go off of feelings or instinct or vibes or trends. Like, all these things don't exist to him. So let's say we lost six in a row in ridiculous fashion. Callers are going to be like, we've got to fire Gibby.

I hate calling him Gibby. And I asked him, I said straight out, I said, you know, when you call him Gibby, it makes you seem like he's a buddy. And how do we expect you to be fair to your buddy? I don't think it's appropriate for somebody who's supposed to be like unbiased on something. Great question.

Yeah. What did he say? Everyone calls him Gibby. Oh, for fuck's sake. I know. And I said, does he call you Wilney? Yeah, exactly. That's what I said.

And then he said, no, because that's silly. Right. Wilney. I was not silly, no, because that's silly. Right. Wilney. How is that silly? Hepsey liked that line, too. He quoted it back to me when I asked him to become Wilney. Okay, so. I can't decide if I like Wilner or not,

because there's times where I love it when he's just ripping somebody to shreds. Like somebody calls up and says, you know, oh, my God, they lost six in a row. We need to trade Jose Bautista and, you know, murder, put out a hit on Roy Holiday and everybody. I asked him when it's not early. You're right, exactly. But at the same time, he has made predictions or prognocations or whatever the word is that I'm trying to figure out.

Prognoses? Prognoses. I don't even know if that's a word. Where you know, as much as he will remember other people's incorrect shit he never he never suggests that he's wrong which i think is what get people gets people sort of you know like upset with them um he's a he's a good broadcaster i think he's great he knows you know he does know he absolutely knows his shit did you dive into his desire and i think

his sort of the pain point he has or the feeling i have that he's not the play-by-play guy or at least no because i asked him uh did you ask about his dream job and it's taking jerry howard's spot yeah yeah yeah so does he feel like is there anything that's that's really bothering him that he he's not getting the opportunity to be the regular color person even though there has been numerous color people so i don't think he wants to be the color guy but that's a that's a that's a lot of people like jerry was you know the color guy for a long time that's true that is true that is true and then he did a few innings here and there not too much of that like uh but i did we did talk about what he

how he would feel if when jerry steps down you know what does he want that gig and stuff and so that's an absolute yes so is it he's going to stick with the job where he is now and he wants to be the color guy or the play-by-play guy for the toronto blue jays or just wants to be the play-by-play guy for a team somewhere i don't know i gotta get him i forget if i was clear on that part but we talked an hour and 11 minutes and um i called him out on everything. So like, yeah. And I even asked him

if he gets any interference at all. Like does his bosses ever ask him about, like talk to him about how he treats the callers. And it's of course, oh, treats the callers. Like I always wonder, like let's say he is rude to a couple of callers because the vocal minority that hate him are really vocal.

Like I hear it a lot. And I told him I rank for his name when people Google it. So I get the comments and people do i'm not people the vocal minority i don't know they they seem to really dislike the man yeah i personally i told him i wrote an entry about him and he goes well was it good or bad and i actually told him the title which was am i the only one who likes mike wilner i like listening to mike wilner i think he does a great job with the jays wrap up and i think when he has he has the Jays for a day or Jays for a night, whatever that feature is, you know, during the playoffs.

Oh, yeah. I think he does a great job with that and stuff. I've heard him do color and a little bit of play-by-play here and there. I think he does a good job. He has a couple of daughters. Does he? I don't know. You mentioned that when Darren Dredd doted,

suddenly he became like a nicer, softer human being. Well, I don't think there's ever been that he's a bad human being. I don't think anyone has ever said that. Who, Willner? Yeah. I've heard he was. Really? But in person for that, he was lovely.

And he talked about Cito, the Cito incident. Good, good, good. I'm going to have to listen to this. You must listen now. You know what he said? Officially, Rogers did not suspend him for those remarks. Officially, they just gave him the weekend off. He said it was one weekend, and they said,

you take the weekend off. And they never, ever tied it to the Cito incident. Just cool down and take the weekend off. So that's HR-wise. And I asked him, and I told him, anyways, you've got to listen because we went through it all. In fact, I tweeted at Mike from Boston because he writes for the Toronto Sports Media. And he wrote this weekend roundup.

And he didn't include the, what do you mean you didn't include the hour Mike Willner? Mike Willner, yeah. Are you kidding me? How does that not get coverage in Toronto Sports Media? What a divisive figure in Toronto Sports Media. Big time. Exposed. I've never seen or heard any kind of a wilner expose like that no not at all this should win a pulitzer okay it's a rate and he's like sorry man i didn't listen yet i'm like you better do it this weekend if mike from boston

doesn't post the link this weekend um that's it i can't wait till you win a pulitzer for a podcast i'm gonna win i told somebody i was gonna thener episode was going to win me a potty award, and then someone said I should put it next to my Gemini. I was just going to say, where is your fucking Gemini? It should be on the desk. It's in the bathroom. Okay, and then calling Rush Home. So that's it.

So since you were last here, Ed the Sock, Ash from USS, Mike Wilner, and calling Rush Home. Pretty fucking good lineup, man. Somebody said it's like, this is your life Toronto style. That's what it's evolving to. This is your life Toronto.

So this is the episode then when people have a break, they don't listen to it and wait for the next. I watch the numbers. It's quite funny, actually, because there's a group that listens to everything. And Ian Service, I want to give a shout out to him. He was going to come in today, but he couldn't make it. But Ian Service is one of the guys who likes the Elvis episodes as much as he likes the

Wilner episode. Like he enjoys us shooting the shit. Well, I think this is for Ian. As somebody who used to consume podcasts more than I do now, I think it's a nice mix. It's like a nice match up. People want to know what we think of Gian Gomeschi. Yeah. Because the last time we talked was before any of the, I just realized we recorded the

morning that they released that the Toronto Star released the first three stories or whatever for women. So listening back, I had a cringe moment where I realized if I had recorded that an hour later, I would have had a different tone to it.

So I felt terrible. And of course now he's... And all I was saying, because all we talked about was that blog entry about the girl who went on the date and felt creeped out. So hearing me say the blog entry wasn't fair after we hear women coming out about being abused by the man sounds a little insensitive.

Well, I still stand by the fact that even if there was one blog, it's still fair. But just on the blog entry. Good of you to admit that. But time is everything. And you evolve your thoughts on things as evidence is available. Does anyone out there now think that he's innocent? Or that he didn't? I know. First of all, the answer is yes to that question.

There's answers. It's yes or no. I still see. It's almost like when my former buddy defended Ray Rice on Facebook. People are still defending Ray Rice. There are definitely people out there who think all these people coming out is awfully convenient. Why are they coming out now? If they feel it's witch Like, people are still defending the United States. Right. There are definitely people out there who think, all these people coming out, it's awfully convenient. Why are they coming out now?

Right. If they feel it's witch-hunting, they're still out there. Because it's pretty easy to come out and admit that somebody is crazy. But less and less now. A lot of people are like, you know, 12 people or whatever have come forward. Right. And then, well, not as many as... It's quite the conspiracy.

Not as many as Bill Cosby, of course. That's another conspiracy, right? Well, they have a statute of limitations in the States that we don't have. Which I don't find that makes any sense. America. I don't think murder has none, right? I find it funny that rape does. We probably did have

one and got rid of it because we're more progressive a nation. And they probably just never got rid of theirs. Isn't there still some states where abortion is illegal? Or am I dreaming that? No, it can't be illegal. But there's definitely lots of hurdles and whatnot. Bureaucracy. Anyways, America is a whole different story.

But we don't have a statute of limitations. So, yeah. So, Ji-Han got arrested, but based on, I think only three women went to the cause. Four, wasn't it? Four counts of sexual assault and one count of choking or whatever, for lack of a better term.

So, he's hired the Dream Team or something, some super lawyer. I saw some pictures. Apparently, yeah. And apparently it's really tough to prove these things in court. So this is going to, I told Monica the other day that this is going to be one ugly trial

because they're basically going to be doing stuff to prove it was consensual. So they're going to be bringing out text messages and pictures and videos and emails and witnesses who say this and that just to prove it was all consensual. Well, and there's going to be women who say that they've done this consensually and yeah, it's going to be ugly, but this is not, we're not, it's not going to be in front of a jury for

years, two, three years. He's got to live with his mom in the meantime. So that's his punishment. I mean, what do you, I mean, if you're him, what do you do? Like, I always think of it like, you can't go to a club and stuff. People will punch you in the nose. I know, but where do you work? Who's going to hire this guy now? Right now he's a People will punch you in the nose. I know, but where do you work? Who's going to hire this guy now? Right now, he's toxic right now. And he owes the CBC $18,000. I just look at it from a practicality standpoint.

And if I was ever in that unfortunate position, I don't know how I would survive. I can't not work. But you lay super low. But can you afford not to work, Mike? Me? Yeah. No, but he's living with his mom.

And I heard, first of all, he's made a lot of money for a long time. I guess. I'm sure he was wise with his money. Hope so, for his sake. And he might have family money, I read somewhere. There might be actual money without his job. And then he made good cash, like really good cash. And if he was wise with that, because I can go another go another three weeks if i if i can make it three weeks he come he'd be like to your

lawyers like come on let's fucking move it even longer if we all move in with my mom right all right so heaven forbid there's a uh fire alarm though when you're living with your mom because that would just be a nightmare oh yeah no those things i mean those things. I mean, I went to the play yesterday, right? So the four of us went, but of course the family's five. So we're missing one. So the eight-month-old was dropped off at my mom's house.

And I saw Monica getting texts during the show. Like my mom was like, because he's in a strange place and he doesn't sleep as well in a strange place. Sure, of course. He's still crying. I'm going to go in and console her. And I saw my Monica writing back,

like, give it an hour. And then of course, before the hour's up, the kid's asleep. Anyways, he was with Grandma yesterday. Grandma's a whole podcast unto herself. I could talk about your mom forever. The Facebook stuff's been entertaining. If I post a picture of James

who's 12 and not on Facebook, my mom will write to James in the comments. It's so great. Hey, how was the game, James? And you're giving your poor mother a heart attack by riding your bike in this weather and the cold and snow. You're such a bad son. I want to brag about the fact that I have not missed a weekday bike ride this entire month.

You're giving your mother and El Duce heart attacks. Oh, El Duce doesn't like the fact. He thinks I have three children. I should not be biking in the snow. Correct. Correct in that that's what he's saying. I love it. It's so great.

I know. And I try to be Mike Wilner and be rational about it and explain, well, it's all calculated stuff. Like I'm not actually out there to commit suicide. So I got a question for you. Go ahead. Do you, if I know you don't like to consume anything,

but have you considered, except this coffee, have you considered, uh, purchasing a trainer for your bike? No. So you can ride your bike inside. Because I,

uh, would rather do like 20 K outside. I know. I understand that you'd rather, but at some point in time in the winter time, where am I going to put it? Like, I don't have anywhere to put it.

There's going to be stretches where you can't ride. Okay. So last year would be my model that was the first year by the way i decided to bike all winter was last year so now i'm on year two and last year was a bad winter yes so i actually because i map it and like really map it and it's i can see all the days i get out and you're right i think february for example i got out like maybe five times right something like that in february it was awful so yes there i just accept the fact that when we do have the big snowfalls and ice storms that those basically i So yes, I just accept the fact that when we do have the big

snowfalls and ice storms that those basically, there will be days. I accept the fact there will be days I cannot go. Gotcha. I almost always take the bike out and try and then after a block, I'll know whether I can go or not. I haven't had that yet this year, but we haven't had anything too bad this year. But there has been snowy days, but it was fine because there's two types of snow on these trails. There's a snow snow where I'm fine actually i just reduce the speed and i do like wider turns and i know how to like stay on the bike and be fine and then there's when there's like ice under it and that's when like the wheel the tire hits the ice and just how about takes it from have you considered putting chains on the tires no but i did consider there you do there are snow tires for bikes and i have

considered it haven't done it yet but i would suggest you put clips on your pedals first before you put snow tires on them. Fucking maniac. You mean clipless pedals? Like the clipless ones you mean? Yeah, the ones where your shoe is attached to the pedal? Yeah, that's clipless. Whatever the fuck it is. It's the opposite of clip, because I have the clips.

Clipless, I think. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Yes, I stand for it. Of course, you're right. I should. Yes. Fucking running shoes.

So last time we recorded, I think we were still talking TFC. That's how long ago it was. So I just want to give a shout out to... I don't know if you know this. We have a TFC fact checker who listens to our podcast. He is a very, very educated... Is he great? Smarter than you when it comes to TFC.

Absolutely, yeah. He's a great journalist I really enjoy his He used to write more frequently Than he does now And I've never met him in person I've tweeted with him a bunch of times When I was working with the Ottawa FC team

He was There's an Ottawa FC? And you worked with him? There was I didn't work with him, but I worked with an Ottawa FC. There was, and you worked with them. There was, I didn't know. I didn't work with him, but I worked with the Ottawa FC team. Yes. Did you?

Yep. And, um, he's a good guy at 24th minute and at 24th minute. Cause that was the minute in which Danny Diccio scored. And that's when we sing this Danny Diccio song. Correct. Sing it.

Uh, his name is Dwayne Rollins and, he's a local guy and does a lot of, uh, does a lot of work in the, in the community for, for soccer as well. Uh, he's a local guy and does a lot of work in the community for soccer as well. He's a seasoned seed holder, and he's an all-around good guy. I've taken some jabs at him. The one criticism I do have of him, similar to a lot of other—

Remember, he's listening now. I told him this before. Similar to a lot of other journalists in this city i find is that they feel the need to tell me as a fan how i should feel and i don't feel that is appropriate in any way if i am a fan of a team i have the right to feel about that team in any way i want i could be wrong but i really hate it when can you give an example like give me an example what you mean like does he say something like you should be angry at this team for not doing something? Or I shouldn't be angry.

It's usually the other way around. Like, you shouldn't be angry because we spend a lot of money on, like, bloody big deals. We're called fans because it comes from the word fanatic. Yes. I find it difficult to understand why journalists feel the need to tell me that my thoughts about a team should involve rationality all the time when I'm passionate about a team. And sometimes passion comes out as, you know, extremes one way or the other. And so, you know, if I want to think something or talk about something, someone in a way that isn't necessarily rational, then that's my right as a fan. Does Wilner know that? No, I think that's probably why Wilner gets,

you know, beat up a few times. But no, Dwayne does a great job. I really like, and he's, and for a league that in this country, there isn't a lot of exposure to MLS, like there isn't a lot of calmness or anything like that. He does a really good job of bringing out some of the stories. He knows more about MLS than anyone. Yeah, well, whenever you educate me on MLS and he listens and he hears that you got it all wrong, he always tweets me the correct answer. Which is fine.

I know, I'm just busting your balls. You know way more than I do, but apparently he knows more than you. He's very intimately involved. So he's going to sit in this seat next week. He's good. We should bring him in. It would be fun.

I don't know if you want to have a whole podcast about football. My depth of knowledge is basically we had a bloody big deal, and he didn't play the game I went to. You know what? You would be like Bob McCowan having a football conversation. You mean soccer? Soccer conversation, yeah. Yes. Yes.

Yeah. Except the difference is I probably have watched many more soccer. I've watched a lot of World Cup. I almost watched every World Cup. It's fucking great. Lots of World Cup.

I watch a lot of Euro Cup. And if I'm in BMO field, I'll actually watch an MLS game. So those are three, the only three times I'll ever watch soccer. I would guess that you could add up all of the times

Bob McCowan has ever seen soccer and you still wouldn't get 90 minutes of V-Day time. He still thinks he probably hasn't watched soccer since Pele was playing. Right. Who is in the hospital. Hopefully he gets better. I heard yesterday he had a urinary tract infection. Yeah, that's horrible.

You get that from intercourse. I don't know. That's my understanding. I'm not a doctor. It's good for him. He's like 72 and on. My roommate in fourth year university, she decided one time during exams. To have intercourse?

No, she decided during exams that going to the washroom was a waste of time. So she held her pee for like a day and a half and gave herself a urinary tract infection. Somebody died doing that trying to win a Nintendo Wii on a radio contest. Are you fucking serious? Yeah, it was like, drink water. How long can you go without pissing to win the Nintendo Wii on a radio contest. Are you fucking serious? Yeah, it was like, how long, drink water, how long can you go without pissing to win the Nintendo Wii

and the woman died. They used to do that all the time on radio, right? Then when a woman died, they stopped doing it. Yeah, no, this is no joke. You can snopes this. This happened.

Fucking Wii. A Wii, yeah, but that was back when Wii, like in 99, I guess. That was like a big deal. I even bought one in 09. And I used it until very recently.

I used it for the fit. Okay. Tell me if I'm crazy. Okay. Tell me if I'm crazy. You're crazy. My godsons are coming over. Wait a minute.

Slow down. You have godsons? I have godsons, yes. But why would you agree to that? Well, this was before I was enlightened. Anyway, that's fine. Regardless. Fair enough.

I have two godsons. I love them very much. And they are now, I don't even know how old they are. Fuck. Like 12 and 8, maybe? You should know that if you're, they're gone from there. The oldest wants the newest Call of Duty Xbox game.

Yeah, my son has it. And we're going to, and when they come over, we're going to play. Yeah. I swear. I don't play video games at all. And it's frustrating because when I'm playing against him,

it's just a constant murder. I'm constantly dead. I won't play. I only play Mario Kart with my son. Constantly dead. Because I can beat him. Tell me if this is a good idea or if I'm just a constant murder. I'm constantly dead. I only play Mario Kart with my son. Because I can beat him. Tell me if this is a good idea or if I'm just crazy. I'm going to buy him the new Call of Duty say today.

And I'm going to play it for every single day between now and the 22nd of December. Homer did this. So when they can come over, at least I can kill him one time. That's all I want to do. Just kill him one time. Don't let him unplug it before you win. Homer paid that kid in the video arcade to learn the boxing match that Bart beat him in

every time. He spent lots of money with quarters to become a master at this. Then he was playing Bart. He was beating Bart because he was trained by this guy in the video arcade on the boxing match. Homer was going to win and Marge wanted their attention on something important, but Homer said,

hold on, Marge. He's beating him for the first time. Marge, I believe, unplugged the thing just before Homer won and then Bart said, I retire as champion. He stopped playing.

All right. I don't want to win. I just want to kill him. Yeah, this is a good idea. It's a good idea for me to play these video games? Do you have this time? I haven't played, no,

but it's going to be a lot of late nights. It's hard. I'm normally in bed by 930, but i might have to push it until maybe 11 if i can get an hour and a half every single day no it's a good idea if you find the game enjoyable uh you're talking to a guy who doesn't understand i don't i don't appreciate the modern video game i don't appreciate me i would agree to a certain extent. I don't play video games. I like the idea of wanting to play NHL or Madden.

Those I like. But I don't have the time for it. Do you find they made it too complicated? It is unbelievably complicated. I need two buttons and an up and down, left or right. The last time I heavily played an NHL game was Super Nintendo. So I had a Super Nintendo and I was heavy. And it was really simple.

The controllers, I knew exactly how to do everything, and I got really good at it. And then I remember trying to dive in with my son. I believe we had, I can't remember anymore, but it was a recent video game. And the instruction book on how to do stuff was so complicated. It was.

I even blogged about this. You need a PhD to figure it out. You can't remember it. I know, and it's so fun if you can't remember it. And it vibrates and like... And everything. If you click this button, then that button, it's like a drop pass and there's like...

Nothing beats NHL 94 on the Sega Genesis, the one-timer pass that you could constantly score on. Oh, yeah. It's the fucking greatest thing ever. Yeah, I miss those days. 93, 94, those EA games. I'm considering for the next 22 days, given that we're going to play this on December the 1st,

the next 22 days... But you know, guys, it's the reward... First of all, he'll still beat you. Of course he's going to beat me. Is the payoff worth it? You're not going to see Charlie grow up now? I just want to be slightly competitive. That's all I want. Otherwise, it's not fun.

That's when you say, let's play Mario Kart. They fucking love it. But there isn't a game that I'm good at. I know. Mario Kart. Yeah, because I have the original Wii. Do they have that on Xbox? No. I think it's a Nintendo property. Right. Okay, do that. Tell me how it goes. I'm excited to hear it.

Hey, on this, I can't be your godfather. I refuse. I mean, I'm not anyone's asking this atheist to be a godfather. It sounds bad. I would not. I know it was before you were enlightened. But today, if somebody came up to you and said they wanted you to be a godparent, it wouldn't be fair. I'm not asking this atheist to be a godfather. It sounds bad. I know it was before you were enlightened. But today, if somebody came up to you and said they wanted you to be a godparent, it wouldn't be fair. It's too hypocritical, and you don't believe it.

Personally, you would love these kids whether you were their godfather or not. Absolutely. Nothing's actually different. You don't feel any special obligation, do you? Because you're a godfather. Do I feel... Do you feel like you have some... No, because I think that would make it seem like I'm doing something that I'm not supposed to.

But I do love these kids. But you would love them anyway. Who are these kids to you? Like a friend's kids? They're friend's kids that we just happen to be really, really close with. All right. Yeah. Do these kids call you Uncle Elvis or do they call you Godfather Elvis?

No, they just call me Elvis. All right. That's it. Our families are really close, so yeah. Okay, cool. I have a note here about happy holidays versus Merry Christmas. I don't want to rant too long on it except to say I wrote down here because it's how I feel, which is who the fuck cares? Like, who cares?

Sometimes I'll say something on the, I don't know, an open mic, but how I'm okay if the Walmart guy wants to say happy holidays. Like, I don't care. It's more inclusive. Like, it applies to everybody, happy holidays. And they'll get all pissed off. Like, I don't care. It's more inclusive. Like it applies to everybody. Happy holidays. And they'll get all pissed off. Like it's Christmas. It should be Merry Christmas. Like who the fuck cares what a Walmart greeter says to you when you come in?

Like this was the bone of contention in some open mic recently. What the Walmart greeter says. Like who cares? They just want you to spend money. They're going to say happy holidays because everyone can, it'll apply. Your Merry Christmas is only going to be applicable to Christians. Are you offended by people saying

Merry Christmas to you? I don't care. I don't care if you say, I don't care. I don't care if you say Happy Hanukkah to me or Crazy Kwanzaa. Does anyone celebrate Kwanzaa?

Yeah. It's an African thing, isn't it? But didn't they invent it? Like, isn't it like a U.S. Africa thing? I don't think so. Go to the Wikipedia page.

I know you're going to do it now. I'm going to do it right now. I thought maybe Kwanzaa was like a U.S. Africa thing? I don't think so. I need to go to the Wikipedia page. I know you're going to do it now. I'm going to do it right now. I thought maybe Kwanzaa was like a U.S. African invention. Are you sure? But it didn't take off. Like it was like they invented it and it just didn't take off. They just celebrate Christmas instead. Could be.

Like there's a secular Christmas. I celebrate the secular Christmas. My kids know. Well, my kids actually don't believe in anything. But they used to, you know, they're happy that it's a Santa reindeer thing going on, and it's all nice. Kwanzaa is a week-long celebration held in the United States and also celebrated in the Western African diaspora in other nations of the Americas. The celebration honors African heritage and African-American culture.

Okay, so you're right. It's an invention. It was first celebrated in 1966-67. Right, and they didn't take off, I believe. Okay, so you're right. It's an invention. Like, it's not a... It was first celebrated in 1966, 67. Right, and they didn't take off, I believe. I don't think anyone celebrates it. No, it didn't at all. I thought it was an African thing. No, it's like a U.S. African thing.

It's an African-American thing. Yeah. See, there you go. I taught you something. Good for you. Thanks, man. So you don't care. Happy holidays.

I don't really care. I prefer that somebody didn't say Merry Christmas to me, but I'm not going to get mad if they do. No, I mean, really care. I prefer that somebody didn't say Merry Christmas to me, but I'm not going to get mad if they do. No, I mean, me too. Are your kids expecting Santa to come down a chimney? Be honest. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm fine with Santa.

Yeah. Santa Claus in our house is not Jesus, which is what a lot of people think. No, my North American house is Santa Claus. That's like a South American thing. A lot. Really? Well, I mean, essentially, if you believe in Christmas as in this is when Jesus was born, isn't Jesus not there for Santa Claus?

I was raised by parents who said there was like a Jesus. Right. Okay. And never once was it even insinuated that Santa had anything to do with Jesus. I think by virtue of the fact that you're celebrating Jesus' birthday when Santa comes down the chimney, you are saying Santa is Jesus or Jesus is Santa.

See, I know. I just disagree. I think they've... That's what I think. I think in South America that Santa is Jesus, I believe. I think it illustrates

how ridiculous it is. You know, I think I heard this in like an episode of Modern Family. Santa is Jesus and Jesus is Santa. That's what Christians are saying if they believe in Santa Claus.

North American Christians. Every Christian in the world who says that they believe in Santa at saying. If they believe in Santa Claus. North American Christians. Every Christian in the world who says that they believe in Santa at the same time they believe in Jesus. So RG thinks Santa is Jesus. Absolutely. He may not admit it, but that's exactly what he's saying. It's exactly what he's saying. It would take away from Jesus.

I don't mean believe in Santa as in Santa's actually here, but Santa's part of the holiday. Come on. It's Jesus. This season is fascinating. I have a friend of mine. This season is fascinating. I have a colleague of mine, acquaintance, I should say. Okay.

A good high school friend that no longer is really a friend. And for no reason other than we've hung up. And is no longer in high school. Correct. Who brings out a cake on Christmas Eve and they sing happy birthday to Jesus. I couldn't be friends with that person.

I've dropped so many friends for lunch last. It's crazy. It's weird to me and to you, but at the same time, at least this guy is celebrating Christmas for the real reason, right? But is he doing it ironically? No.

That would be kind of funny. No, they're very, very religious. I could see my brother, super atheist Steve, doing that because sometimes he'll sign off like, I can't wait to see you on Jesus' birthday, which is hilarious. We do that because, of course, neither of us believe Jesus even existed, let alone was son of God. So it's quite funny to just do that.

Now, the Elvis household also has a cake where we sing happy birthday on Christmas Eve. But on the cake, it says fuck cancer because that's the anniversary of me getting a clear diagnosis. However, you spell it out, F-U-C-K. Yes. And it's always an awkward conversation with the baker, too. I'm surprised they even do it. A lot of them, it's not, I'm never the first. They say that a lot of people do it. I guess in that context.

But it's always awkward. And of course it's always like a, you know, like a 16 year old girl or something. And I feel like a dirty old man, but. No, but in that context, it's okay for a 16 year old girl. And they always say, you know, I always say it. And then I say it's, you know, cause I'm celebrating, you know, being a survivor it and then I say it's, you know, because I'm celebrating, you know, being a survivor and they're like, oh,

congratulations. So I try and make it, you know, not weird, but it's important for us to have that cake and we sing happy birthday because obviously my kids

are too young to really understand what it means and so when they see a cake with a candle on it, well, of course you're going to sing happy birthday.

So they sing happy birthday. And that's Christmas Eve? That's Christmas Eve. So it's between Festivus and Christmas. You slam in the fucking answer. Can't wait for the Festivus poll to come out, my friend. Oh, man. And you don't have

any tree up yet or anything? No, no, no, no. It's too early, right? We usually cut down a tree. We're pagans at heart and cut down a tree and put in that tree in our house and decorate it. I cut it down. I don't do anything else.

Yeah, next year is going to be tough because Charlie is going to want to pull everything down. You're going to have to barricade it. Been through that. And we have a dog that also likes to... Oh, yeah, I forgot. You know, I forgot you had a dog. He's extremely...

It's a big dog. He's extremely distracted by tinsel. He loves Festivus. Really distracted by tinsel on the tree. Tinsel is distracting. It's very distracting. Frank Costanza told me that. That's right.

Raptors. Are you watching any Raptor basketball lately? I haven't been able to watch. You don't have TV, right? You got to stream this shit? We can watch it. I haven't been able to watch it just because of travel and stuff. And I imagine I won't be able to watch very much of it given my Call of Duty obsession that's about to start.

But it's really exciting. Really. I mean, fucking A, man. So you're sincere because... Yeah, why wouldn't I be? I watched a big game at Ken, and they have a big game tonight, Dallas, and I know that I'm putting this up on Monday.

So the game has already happened. I hope we won. Exciting. Super exciting. Sometimes we just blow them out. The way they're playing is great. We had a lead by 50 points once in the fourth quarter. Suddenly the Brazilians hit the floor.

It was like a magic. We're up there. I'm watching the game. We're up by 50. The Brazilians are now on the floor doing alley-oops. That was Christmas. It was like, this is crazy. It's awesome. Bruno Cabloclo just scored a three-point shot after their chanting, Bruno, Bruno. He hits a three-point shot after their chanting

Bruno, Bruno and he hits a three. It was like, this is silly time. I would love you to get one of the Raptors in here with this fucking ceiling. Oh, yeah.

He's so great. I could get maybe Kyle Lowry but he's probably still like 6'2 or something. You could get, what's his name? I know what you're going to say. Former Raptor,

Muggsy Bogues. Muggsy Bogues, yes. Or Spud Webb. I'd love to interview Matt Bonner. Yeah, the Red Rocket? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, the Raptors are exciting. I'll take anyone.ugsy Bogues, yes. Or Spud Webb. I'd love to interview Matt Bonner. Yeah, the Red Rocket? Yeah. Anyway, the Raptors are exciting.

I'll take anyone. It's fucking A, man. You need a winner in this town. Yeah, I was arguing that this is probably the best team in the city maybe since that early 90s Leafs team with Dougie Gilmore. I don't think there's a question about it. I got somebody said there was actually a very good Leafs team with, uh, I don't think there's a question about it. I mean, I got, I got, somebody said it was actually, there was a,

a very good Leafs team. We did make like under the late, great Pat Quinn's watch. We did make two final fours, but the regular season, we never even won the division those years. Like I felt like that team compared to the rest of the conference was not nearly as good as this Raptors team compared to this conference.

Well, yeah. Okay. So it was Sunday, the Sunday in a year. So it was like, what was it? Oh,

two. Oh, there was 99 and oh two, I think, or 98 and 02, both of them. One was Buffalo and one was Carolina. Yeah, so since then, there's been a couple of Grey Cups. I didn't count the Argos. But, I mean, I think for good reason. I don't think any of those teams would be considered to be, you know, super.

The Doug Flutie teams were very good. Yeah, but that wasn't in the 2000s, was it? No, but that was late 90s, which is after this 2002 if we're going by the last i know but i was saying since 93 well that you know now you're being ridiculous but i wasn't counting the argos i don't think you're being ridiculous i said of the big three i said so it's the most fun that the city has seen in sports since 2002 in terms of a winner i love it and i love the fact that our bench is so good that on any given night a member of that bench will be the leading scorer. Like it might be a sweet Lou Williams,

for example, or it might be a big game from like Patrick Patterson or James Johnson. And you know, DeRozan and Lowry are enjoying the fact that they don't have to play the entire game. Because Vasquez the other day had a great game and I was thinking,

holy shit, like Vasquez, this is his game. Like one night, Valanchunas is the big guy and then maybe Lowry is going to do his thing. He's always good. That guy is the glue of this team, is that Kyle Lowry.

He is the guy. You take him out of this lineup, and now we're just average. I feel like that is the one. You can take DeRozan out for a while. We'll be okay. Don't take Kyle Lowry out. Well, you can't take DeRozan out for a long period of time. I feel like we could patch that up for a while.

I don't know. We know who we'd resurrect, because I saw him come out in that 50-point. We'll resurrect Landry Fields. Okay. We'll dust off Landry Fields and he can fill in for, we'll put Williams in the spot. How much time do we have left? I don't know. It's up to you. You want to, okay, let me check. I've got to go. Well, no, I know. What time is it? Yeah, I i probably should go but i i since we're on the raptors i want to ask you about something and then i don't know if you have any okay um we should probably mention this uh because it caused a lot of controversy i think uh go vince carter

video trip oh yeah at the raptor game all right um what do you think well i will i wrote this so i cannot i i still feel the same way, which is I feel like you should never, never do a tribute video to an active player who's not on your team. That's how I feel. Interesting, because I'll save my opinion after I say this, because the Leafs tradition is that a player leaves the Leafs the very first time they come back to the ACC, there's a video tribute.

Yeah, the Leafs are ridiculous. The Leafs did an hour tribute to Ty Domi one night. Now he's hanging up in my bathroom. That was even more than just a video tribute. That was a whole tribute to his career. Ty Domi. He was friends with Larry Tenenbaum. I'm with you.

Fuck Vince. Fuck his mom. Fuck you vince yeah good for her um i'm glad that you fuck your graduation yeah i'm glad skip the fucking ceremony because we're paying you big cash for exactly seven i'm glad you regret what you did to to the team i'm glad fan base fuck you yeah and uh if anything there shouldn't there shouldn't be any mention of Vince Carter in tribute until you retire. And even then. Maybe five years after retirement. And even then, yeah.

Maybe then. The analogy I say is that could you imagine Patrick Waugh comes into the forum as a member of the Colorado Avalanche and Montreal puts up a tribute to St. Patrick. Could you even like, does this even like, is it plausible in your mind? No. No. Like as he's,

and part of the video montage is him raising the Stanley Cup over his head as a member of the Colorado Avalanche. Oh yeah, that's right. Can you imagine? That's perfect. Like fuck that. Yeah, fuck that.

You know what? Fuck you, Vince. And this is a time here where journalists in this city drive me nuts because this is where they tell me that this is where I cannot, as a fan, still hate Vince. They tell me that I'm not supposed to feel that way. Fuck you. I'm allowed to feel the way I want to feel about Vince. I don't need you to tell me. I don't need you to feel all starstruck because now he's an old guy and he's with the Memphis Grizzlies and they happen to be doing well and all that

bullshit. Fuck you. I can still hate Vince. It's my right. And quite frankly, I think I'm right in hating Vince still. And I mean, you and I, so you're almost 40 and I am 40. And I feel like there's a lot of Raptor fans now who simply don't remember. I don't think they remember how Vince Carter's story ended. Good. Like they might see the highlights of half man half amazing and they'll see the dunk or something or they'll see this and that and they'll hear the legend of vince or whatever but i actually feel like there's i don't know if we're getting just people are getting people getting younger is that what's going on because uh and i tried to remind everyone on my blog of what happened and people forget that this man,

remember the two things that happened. One is I'm not going to dunk anymore. Do you remember that? I'm going to stop dunking. Yep. Okay. And that came together with a dramatic, the season,

in the off season, he demanded a trade. And then he starts with the Raptors this last season of his as a Raptor. And he, and I'm wrapping this up quickly, but he, his point production plummeted. And. And he, and I'm wrapping this up quickly, but he, uh, his point production plummeted and watching those games as I did,

you could see he was a shadow of his former self. He simply wasn't giving his a hundred percent. And yes, he then admitted later. He admits. Yes. So this is not even speculation. So even Mike Wilner can't even say,

I'm just the speculation. So he quits on the team, essentially, which dramatically reduces his trade value because now he's averaging 14. Do you know he was averaging 14 points a game that last season? This is Vince Carter, 14 points a game. Who's still playing today. I know.

And I bet you he could still dunk today. He's still playing today, which tells you that he's not a 14 point. No, he's not a 14 point player. He's not a flash in the pan kind of player. No, he's not a 14-point player. He's not a flash-in-the-pan kind of player. No, he was amazing. That's the thing. After the trade, I said, you know, we're going to trade him for nothing,

and he's going to be amazing. He went to New Jersey. We got nothing back of value. Shittiest trade ever. Rob Babcock put that. What an idiot that guy was. But anyways, terrible trade. And Vince Carter shone.

Sean, he shined. He did all three with the New Jersey N he did the big three there and he suddenly he rediscovered his dunk came back he started averaging his normal whatever 24 points or whatever yeah and he was an all-star again fuck vince he quit on this team we got nothing back for him and you don't get a tribute while you're playing against us. I know the tier. I like the tier because I think he does regret it, how it went down. And I like the fact he regrets it. And that's good.

So maybe when he's retired five years, we can have him back. So what's worse? Because you know that they're going to retire his jersey at some point. What's worse, the video tribute to Derek Jeter or the video tribute to Vince Carter? Oh, what's worse? That's a tough one because one has a far more emotional part. I'm going to to Vince Carter? That's a tough one because one has a far more emotional part. I'm going to say Vince Carter because he's a former player

who fucked off on us. Video tributes to active players I've got an issue with, period. Yeah, no. This should stop. Regardless of whether or not they're on my team. We're going to wrap up. I have a lot of shit that I never got to, but we'll have to get to it a different way.

I wanted to talk about the good people at TELUS who took me to lunch the other day and then gave me gold medal tickets to the World Junior Hockey Championship. Has that ever been said before? TELUS? The good people at TELUS? I know.

You know, TELUS, no one hates TELUS. Everyone hates Beller and Rogers. Which I find funny because they're all shit. I don't hear a lot of... They don't have bad customer service. Yeah, but the TELUS hate, maybe because they're like the aftergers but i don't hear a lot because i don't hear a lot of they don't have that customer service yeah but the tell us hate maybe because they're like the afterthought they don't own anything because they're number three right yeah distant third i'm sure yeah i'm sure it's and they don't have cable here they don't have cable here they do out west do they yeah if they get cable here maybe i'll score a deal because i've got some friends

there now that's everything you know score me a deal i did score rogers deal i was going to talk about but maybe another episode. But it took bitching and whining via social media to get my new deal. That's right, good for you, though. I know, but now I feel bad for the regular dude who can't do that. But I think maybe anyone who tweets at that Rogers helps

should be able to get a deal that's not published anyway. I would agree. So everyone should do that. Best practices. At Rogers help? At Rogers help. Just tell them you So everyone should do that. Best practices. At Roger's Help. At Roger's Help. Just tell them you're paying too much and see what happens.

Because you are paying too much. And CC at Toronto Mike. Yeah, because then I'll make shit happen. That's right. You're the shitting, making it happen guy. Silverman helps. The void needs to be filled. Watch it, buddy.

And there's a guy in the star, the fixer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Great. I like that column. You read the star? That column. Are you a pinko lefty?

Yes, I'm a pinko. That's funny. I'm all for communism. Pinko lefty. But is this Don Cherry's podcast now all of a sudden? You know, I like Don Cherry. I don't. His politics are ridiculous and he's a xenophobe but I love listening to Coach's Corner

and I won't miss it. He's great. I love him. Isn't that weird though because would we listen to somebody else and like would we listen to somebody on Sun TV

with the same viewpoints? No. We would ignore them, right? Well I think maybe because he's old and he's also got credibility. And he's something about him I like.

Even when Rob Ford had him complaining about the pinkos. You know who hates him? And I like this guy Bruce Arthur. Bruce Arthur is a great great writer. Yeah he complaining about the pinkos. You know who hates him? And I like this guy, Bruce Arthur. Bruce Arthur is a great, great writer. Yeah, he's a star now. Fucking hates Don Cherry so much.

But you know what? Bruce Arthur is a pinko. I should get Bruce in here. He's like, I think he's my age. I love this. This fucking podcast now is being broadcast in the 1970s. Pinko. Pinko.

McCarthy's going to come after you. It's now the 50s. Pinko. McCarthy's going to come after you. It's now the 50s. Pinko, you're a pinko. And that brings us to the end of our 98th show. Elvis, we're almost at 100. Brian Lawton, we miss you, brother. Come on back. Wow.

Is that the North Stars? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike and Elvis at Oshawa Elvis. Booyah. See you all next week.