Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Women Who Rawk: Toronto Mike'd #872

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

This 67th Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out jams from women who rawk with Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. But first, a special appearance by Canada's rock goddess Bif Naked.

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and Stu Stone. Yes. Hello, Mike. First question, right away. 77 episodes is, I guess, the official order.

This is the 67th. No, no, I'm saying 10 more to go. Well, nine more after this. So, does that mean 76? I hope it's 77.

It's a much better number. I think it's 76. I think it's 76. Well, you know, if you have somebody do a best of episode, maybe that's episode 77. It's a much better number. I think it's 76. I think it's 76. If you have somebody do a best of episode, maybe that's episode 77. This is like when Kramer realized that wasn't the end of the millennium. That was

the year after the millennium. Okay, so first question goes to Ian Servitz. It's for Cam Gordon. He wants to know, how the hell was your cottage vacation? He's got quite the tan. Yeah, do I? I don't even recognize you.

You have a delicious glow. Yeah, no, it's great. I mean, it's always great. I was generally unplugged. I didn't tweet the whole week, I think. Did you listen to any Toronto Mic'd episodes? I listened to quite a few. So I did hear last week's Pandemic Fridays.

That's what he puts on when he's rolling around. Set the mood. And then for The Chaser, I did listen. Who's the Just Like Mom guy? Paul? Paul Burford. Also the inventor of product placement, I learned. He was quite the character. What did you think?

That's showbiz. And we learned, Stu, I'm going to assume you haven't yet heard. Well, hold on a second, Mike. You know what happens when you assume? It makes an ass out of you and me. Yes. Well, you know what? I realize, Mike, that you are a big number in this city.

So, you know- I wasn't sure about that expression. I wasn't sure if that was good or bad. When it comes to Toronto, you are a big number, Mike. So, I want you to know that Cam and I are lucky to be here because you are the king of the airwaves. Absolutely. Of course he listened. In a very big number. I addressed the sunshine and broccoli controversy off

the top. He did reveal something which I think blew my mind. I'm going to guess it blew your minds as well, but that Fergie Oliver was a Chicago White Sox farmhand. Huge. Isn't that a big reveal? I didn't realize he's from Moose Jaw because I also found it interesting

nobody knows where Fergie is nor how old he was because my associate, Rosie Gray Teo, went on a bit of a hunt online to see if he or she could dig up. Who knows about Rosie Gray Teo? Yeah, but it's like Fergie's in his 80s. I mean, I guess that's accurate. He's got to be. He's got to be. And Mike, I do give you credit.

I mean, you bring the real talk addressing the video called pedo... Yeah, by the way, I'd like to talk about that as well. Right now is the time, brother. Yeah, I mean, listen. You know how like Cam says Joe Dakai instead of Jodeci? You say pedo. Is it pedo or pedo? Because Mike, on that show, you were like pedo.

Yeah. Well, the British say pedo. And so you go with the British pronunciation when it comes to pedoing? I was reading it from the title, which was spelled it funny. So it might have thrown me. And also that it was an uncomfortable conversation. It was. I wasn't.

But you did say pedo. So I was like, is that how you say it pedo I don't know like is his name jupito the guy who made pinocchio is he jupito sorry do I have to do a twitter poll about this please say no let's not do this one let's not do this one but uh I did need to like I can't be the real talk guy without asking about the tough question. I like, I will say kidding aside. I mean, especially, I mean, novice, no Fergie Oliver.

Well, well, Oliver, Oliver, Oliver, I will say this, like he's coming up. He knows him.

He's somebody who's like, okay. Um, you know, an important voice in our childhood. I mean, from all accounts of Paul was, was a great man.

I do think it's kind of shitty that a lot of people think he was. Oh, Jeremy, the minute I mean, from all accounts of Paul was a great man. I do think it's kind of shitty that a lot of people think he was a pedophile. The minute I said, okay, we're doing a deep dive in Just Like Mom, Jeremy Taggart, former drummer of Our Lady of Peace,

tweets at me, pedophile game show host or whatever, with a link to that video. Like, that was right away. Why don't you say hi? I get a kiss on the cheek. Yeah. Did you that was right away. Why don't you say hi? Get a kiss on the cheek. Yeah. Did you make that video?

It's not a 5'7 film production. I sound like Andre the Giant. I will say. It's Bruce Moore. If you would pay attention to me, Mike and Cam, I know you guys have your... I mean, I hang back. You have your own side.

He's cracking one on the mic. Just a second. You're a bit off mic there. I'm going to crack one on the mic and then it's all stew. I don't want to hear anything else. Sure. I've got a lot to say. What did you open there?

Thank you, Great Lakes Brewery. I got the octopus. The octopus wants to fight. Okay. Mine's sunny side here. Are you guys done? That sounded good. Let me get comfy.

Stew, it's all yours, brother. All right. That sounded good. Let me get comfy. Stu, it's all yours, brother. All right. Well, I know you and Cam have a very personal, you know, side friendship that you and Cam have. You know, you guys do these deep dives.

Once. Once we did that. It sounds like plural because I saw advertised a second swimming excursion. But it hasn't happened yet. Yeah. But it is. Won't be long. It is happening. Won't be long.

And when you guys do your Dear Aunt Agnes deep dive, don't bother asking me to come. But I will say, That's not bad. I was quite insulted yet again by you two. And this just proves even more,

I'm even more insulted by you two because in between my gripes that I've expressed in our own little chat room that we have with a couple other friendly folks the secret fotm dm sure i expressed my anger towards you two sure did but i i also expressed that uh i had a fergie oliver encounter that cam clearly just ignores so cam clearly just skips by. He's too busy talking to Canada Cam. Stu, if I may address two things here.

Okay, I do read the comments. He said, deep dives, a betrayal, which I did do like fires. Like, okay, that's pretty good. So like I'm reading, I'm reading every fourth. Stu and I went back and forth. Yeah, so we got 10, this is the 10, nine more after this. And we never have to see each other again.

I'm not okay with that. We might like cross, I could see myself at an event and I see Cam in the corner of my eye. I might see Cam, like it's really just you. You know, we're all going to be back, we're all going to be going back to work, back to offices. Who has the time? The winter is coming. But Stu, as I've been saying to you, I would love to do like you and I in Decisive, for example. This is something I've wanted to do for a long time.

There you go. There are, I have a lot of ideas that don't involve cam, but involve you. Well, contractually I'm, I'm, I am a cam guy.

He doesn't feel the same clearly. So, well, okay. My lawyer, again, Lauren Honigman sent over the papers. Like you should have read.

Those were rolling papers. Regardless, it's legal. So it's legal matter. Anyway, tomorrow's bonus episode is going to be fucking great. It's not a bonus. It's a numbered episode.

I can't wait. It's a true episode. As a huge Harriet's Magic Hats guy, I'm very excited for the deep dive. The Dr. Snuggles deep dive. Is it a work or a shoot? I just don't know. Wink if it's a work. I'm not winking. I'm upset.

But I do have a Fergie Alvers story. Okay, let's hear it. And if, you know, I said it before, you gotta watch Canada's Greatest Game Shows or whatever that show is called. Right, right. Does Canada Kev have that in the drive? He should. There's a whole episode on Just Like Mom.

I should have watched it. Featuring myself spilling the tea on my Fergie Oliver story. Let's hear it. Well, spoiler. Yeah. He was my neighbor. Oh, I did. Wait, wait.

Yeah. Okay. Sorry, where? On Braeburn in Toronto, in Thornhill. Is that, is it Toronto or Thornhill? Thornhill. Thornhill. Sorry, that was like your house near Thornley?

Yes. Fergie Oliver lived at one of the corner kind of houses. Okay. So you knew him personally? Well, we wanted to get on Just Like Mom slash He Was Famous. So we would ride our bikes or our big wheels. You know, after catching an episode of Read Along. Read All About It?

Both. Okay. We would drive. We were terrified of Read All About It. Read all about it? Both. Okay. We would drive. We were terrified of read all about it. Sure. But we gathered our courage and we would ride our bikes

and big wheels up to Fergie's and wait for him to come home from work. So he definitely knew us. Wow. But he would never put us on Just Like Mom

and how old were you? this is very young at a very young age I'm here to say that if the allegations in his video, nothing ever happened to me and I was around for it I've not only talked to Paul Burford about this who knew him very well and produced

and created that show but I also spoke to Kate Wheeler about this topic and Kate was on set I played a clip of this in the about this topic. And Kate was on set. I played a clip of this in the Paul Burford episode. But Kate was there because she would prepare the food. After the kids cook it, she had to put it in those little muffin, whatever they call it, the container. And she says, no, absolutely.

There's nothing true. It's just a well-edited reputation. I mean, that's happened to all of us. We've all been misrepresented through bad edits. Yeah. Wow. Poor Fergie. Now, I don't know where he is. Definitely not poor.

Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know how much of that Just Like Mom pie he got. He was getting that Camp On A Dogga money. Oh, so quickly, because we're going to kick out Women Who Rock. Yes. We're going to kick out Women Who Rock. Yes. We're going to kick out Women Who Rock. And I have a special guest

joining us. Is it my mom? Because she rocks. No, but my mom wants you to do mom jams where you have like your mom, his mom, my mom. Would have been good

for Mother's Day. You should have done that, but instead you had us kicking out brother jams. But you should give her my email, mike at torontomike.com because I'm open to all

possibilities and suggestions. I need to connect directly with her. Maybe just do a couple episodes. You know what would be cool? If Mike did an episode once, we're gone. Yeah. And it's Cam's mom and my mom in the seat.

Call it Just Like Mom. Yeah. Oh my God. And it's like me and Cam will just watch. We won't be here. That would actually be hilarious. I'm going to totally do this, but I'm going to act like it's just the week after.

I'm just going to do it as if it's you. And it's our moms. after. I'm just going to do it as if it's you. And it's our moms. I love this idea. Like Linda Gordon and Trudy have met like twice in a doorway and it was like 30 years ago. So the two things I wanted just to

put a bow on the Just Like Mom deep dive. Stu Stone, a big reason Just Like Mom happened is Robin Hood Flower. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Big company there, Mike. I remember it vividly.

And there was the classic ad with that cute little kid in it. The cute blonde kid. But there was another kid in there that really stole the show that day. Okay, so let's just tell the listeners. Sure. So one of my very, you know, this wasn't my first commercial. All right, at this point, I'm already a working actor at age four or five, whatever it was.

Amazing. So I'm on this Robin Hood baking flour commercial shoot, and the blonde kid is supposed to be the main kid. The toe head. Because I don't even look like the family. If you watch the family, I'm supposed to be like the friend, like the tag-along friend. Well, anyway, much as I do here every week,

I'm just stealing the show at the Robin Hood baking flower commercial. You're a fucking idiot. And what ends up happening is I end up doing a whole series of Robin Hood baking flour commercials. Wow. So I've essentially become like the flour, the Robin Hood baking soda. You would think the Gerber's got a baby. The Gerber had a baby.

Robin Hood flour guy. So I would say it was a series of commercials. Or it's like Coppertone, like that little girl getting her diaper nipped up with a puppy. It was like that. And then Kraft Mac and Cheese came, and then they snatched me away from Robin Hood. I remember that ad well as well. But I was definitely the Robin Hood baking flour kid for a couple of commercials.

But Cam, think about this, right? So we dive deep into Just Like Mom. We got the creator Just Like Mom. We're diving in deep, learning Fergie Oliver was a pro baseball player or whatever. Meanwhile, of course, it all comes back to Robin Hood flour. And how about the fact that those commercials... It's mind-blowing. Those commercials aired during Just Like Mom all the player or whatever. Meanwhile, of course, it all comes back to Robin Hood Flower. This is like the face of Robin Hood. It's mind-blowing. Those commercials aired

during Just Like Mom all the time. Oh, for sure. All the time. So while I wasn't on Just Like Mom, I was on Just Like Mom. You couldn't watch Just Like Mom without seeing Stu Stone's cute little face in those ads. That's unbelievable. And how many

FOTMs were contestants? Like I know two. Oh, I know two. Yeah. But one was just like dad. Does that count? Was that 1236 or was this Bob? No, I believe that was Bob Willett.

Okay. Who was on just like dad. But they did that once in a while apparently. By the way, I didn't know Catherine was Miss Canada. Why did I not know that? Yeah, Catherine Swing. Yeah, she was Miss Canada. And of course, the best part is final.

Why does just like mom end? The divorce. The divorce killed the whole show. Oh, wow. Are you sure you listened to this? Yeah. It was long. I feel like you should hit up Bugs Bunny and have him make some of those

Just Like Mom sweaters, those knit sweaters. I think those would fly. I thought that was a pretty awesome sweater. those would fly. That was a custom. I thought that was a pretty awesome sweater. But I loved it. When he told me I was a big number in this city, I was trying to think, I think that's a compliment.

I think it's a compliment. And he was dropping some, you know what? His pop culture references were outstanding in how, you know, like you didn't know a lot of them. But I will say. Do you remember any of them? I mean, it was, like you didn't know a lot of them. But I will say. Do you remember any of them?

I mean, it was just like Herbert Rothstein. But I knew Harvey Atkin, for example. Well, Harvey's the man. I had a call with a guy I was pitching a project with the next day after your Just Like Mom episode. And that guy, it was almost like this is a true story, Mike. I used a reference that I had heard, you're just like mom, on this other guy and it was like the whole tone of the call changed.

He loves me after I made the reference. Like he brightened up. That's what I'm here for. Actually, Mike, I feel like there was one of your little barbed, not barbed, but your comments. Was it Julia? Yeah, she's part of this. When you referenced the Oasis song, Don, Barb, not Barb, but your comments was a total hurt. Yeah. She's part of this. Uh,

when you referenced the Oasis song, don't look back. Do you think he got that? Or he was too contemporary? It came out 25 years ago. Big laugh. Yeah. I got a huge laugh for that.

Uh, and I'm not sure if it was like the Borshevsky. Unbelievable. Before the special guest shows up, I do want to ask, uh, Stu, if everything's okay with sunshine and broccoli.

Well, yes. Well, I haven't heard from sunshine. So, but broccoli, broccoli, broccoli is a, broccoli and I have buried the hatchet. I don't think you can use that expression anymore. You're not allowed to bury a hatchet? I feel that's disrespectful to our indigenous. I didn't even know it was that. So I apologize for my ignorance. I'm here to educate you.

I've been learning a lot myself lately. I just learned something. So we buried the bone. That means something else completely. Mixed metaphors. Olive branches were accepted. We ate olives straight from the branch. I can read you what he wrote me back if you really want to be

personal about it. This is a shoot I got a note from him to say he really loved the episode of his father Well he's a great guy Did he know he was a big time hockey player? Okay so here you gotta hear this This is really funny You have to promise to listen to this without comment Okay

And I'll say this is a 100% shoot I can see Stu's Facebook here. So on June the 6th, somehow at 12.50 a.m., just awful on my part, 12.50 a.m. I send them a Facebook message. After a few GLBs. Congrats on the Juneau win. Well-deserved prayer emoji heart. Ooh.

Ouch. That's June 6th. And again, if you're just joining us, really it's Splash and Boots who won, not Sunshine and Barkley. And this is me congratulating the wrong people. Yeah, they're SMB. No contact back from them, Cam. You can see that. Oh, sure.

June 12th. It's been six days and it's on my mind that I ask you who won the Juno. You tell me who won and I realize, oh, shit. So here's what I wrote to them. Yes. I realized. Say it in British accent. I realize now my mother was confused when she told me the news.

And in turn, I look dumb now. I'm sorry about that. Know that I was legit thrilled when I thought it was you. Rooting for you always and sorry for embarrassing myself. All the best and hope we can laugh about this someday. I thought that was a pretty nice message. That's good. You owned it.

I owned it, but I also like dragged my mom into it. Didn't own it at all. I did own it. I did own it. You threw your mom under the bus. That's okay. I get a message back from Brock with like tear laughing emoji, three of them. Nice.

It's totally okay, Stu. Both of our groups have the same letters, S and B. Yeah, S and B. It's very confusing. So I can see the confusion. Sunshine and Broccoli, love that you are rooting for us, so thank you. I just spoke with Dudu on the phone about his interview on Toronto, Mike, and he was speaking very fondly about you.

Oh! Nice. You run this town. Hope to be in touch soon. I'm a big number. Smiley face, and he was speaking very fondly about you. Oh! Nice. You run this town. Hope to be in touch soon. I'm a big number. Smiley face, and I responded with a heart emoji. I've yet to hear back from Sunshine, so me and her, she might still hate me. I think you're good.

But Brock is a real men- She's got a young child. She's busy. Class act, that Brock. And his father gave him the guitar. He was a hockey player, you know, Mike. I heard. He had a concussion.

He had a concussion, and then his dad- His dad handed him a guitar. He had a hockey player, you know, Mike. I heard. And then he had a concussion. His dad handed him a guitar. He had natural ability. Hell of a cook, too. You know what? He took to that guitar like a duck to water, Mike. You are a number in this city. You could really cut it right.

I have no notes here, by the way. Stu, when you made your first Toronto Mike appearance many moons ago, did you realize that I was a big number in this city? Well, you had to have been because Cam Corden was a guest on your show. So, I mean, only a big... And you passed Hebsey on your way out. That was... You know what? Hebsey was a big number.

Ships in the night. I was looking for his earring. The glare off it. Can we get a little... I got really high there for a minute. Can we get a little, I got really high there for a minute. Can we get a little Aunt Sandy update before we kick off the first day? Aunt Sandy is, she is miserable

but doing a little bit better. We are now allowed to take her out. Okay. So Saturdays I reserve for Aunt Sandy. Love it. And I take her for a ride. Last weekend I picked her up on Saturday and she wasn't really feeling too much energy to get out and walk around. So we did a driving tour of the city.

And I took her to Kensington Market and up and down Queen Street and down King Street and by the Dome. You have some smooth jazz playing. No, no, no. We're listening to... No, she likes hip hop. No. What were we listening to? I don't know if the radio was on because we talk.

Buffalo girls, won't you come out tonight? Come out tonight. You know, one time I did put on like the there's a 40s channel. Sure. Like Benny Goodman. And I expected like, you know, maybe she's gonna like this music because it's from the 40s. And she would have been in her 20s in the 40s.

So maybe, you know, this is the type of thing, maybe she'll hear a song and it'll bounce back and all of a sudden it's from the forties and she would have been in her twenties in the forties. Right. So maybe, you know, this is the type of thing, maybe she'll hear a song and it'll bounce back. And all of a sudden she's doing the, you know, the hokey pokey. She doesn't,

she never, she never really responded to any of the music. And, um, I get the sneaking suspicion that she didn't really like that music from the forties. Yeah. What if you played her some stew stone movement?

I don't think she would probably appreciate that either. But shout out to Aunt Sandy and to all of the great seniors that are now allowed to come out of their jail cells. And please visit them if you have somebody that's in a long-term care facility. At least pick up the phone and call them. But if you can't call them, well, fuck that. Go see them. You can see them.

You can take them out. You can pick them up. Even if you go for a drive, I take my aunt through the car that. Go see them. You can see them. You can take them out. You can pick them up. Even if you go for a drive, I take my aunt through the car wash. She loves it. Now, Aunt Sandy is a woman who rocks. She is. Totally. Without a doubt. Who's going to kick out our first jam tonight? Let's welcome our special guest. Again, only I can see this person.

So this person, we're not all on Zoom here. I'm the only one on Zoom here. I'm going to see this person. So our special guest is, okay, so so i'm not gonna name our special guest yet our special guest i'm excited to hear see your reaction special guest if you're there introduce yourself Well, hello. It's very, the best part about living in Toronto is being your neighbor. Listen to this. I recognize that voice.

That is a voice that I have not heard in a hundred years. Well, she's not that old. I think she's younger than me. No, no, no. Like we, she said it, words to me in 1995. If it's who I think it is. Who do you think it is? Well, did she ever work at a liquor store in a movie and talk about a screw cap?

Yes, she's not. She did do that? That's the legendary Biff Naked. That's Biff Naked. Wow. Amazing. That's unbelievable. Yeah.

I don't know if she remembers, but she was in this movie with us and she was in the movie. We had scenes with her. Okay. It was so much fun. I will never forget it. Yeah. That's crazy. It's fun.

It's so fun to see that scene back because I was a young person. I mean, we all were. We all were. Everyone was young. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. That's so crazy.

Biff, when we decided we're going to kick out awesome rock songs from women who rock, the first person I thought of was you. That's very kind of you, neighbor friend. Bullseye, bullseye guess. Very kind. By the way, the movie that we're talking about is called The Boys Club. This is the one with Chris Penn. Chris Penn and Biff was like a special, like when she came to the set, it was like a big deal for us.

They were like, oh, we got this rock star. She's coming in. And she was so badass. You know, she came in with her. She was, you know, we were all sort of intimidated because she was there. And then it was a scene in a liquor store where we're trying to steal booze from the liquor store. And she's the one who sort of catches us and like chases us around. I'm the employee of the liquor store.

So was this an the liquor store employee. So was this an actual liquor store where you filmed this? Yes. Like in Toronto? Yes. Okay. Yes. And it was great.

And we had a great time with her. And there's got to be some pictures somewhere, but she ended up being really cool. And we didn't have any reason to be afraid of her because at the end of the day, she was really cool. We may have stole some cigs from her, but I don't know. Hilarious. Those were the good old days.

That was a long time ago. You're all just young pups. Yeah, just kids. Anyway, it's so great to hear your voice again. Yes, and yours. Unbelievable. Amazing. I can't believe you're here. Always a pleasure. You're again, Canada's rock goddess.

God bless you. This should be the episode. We'll just shut it down. So we're going to play Biff's song. Biff has a song from a woman who rocks. Wow, okay. And I'm going to play it and Biff's going to talk about it. She would be the... She's not allowed to kick out herself.

Okay. That's not allowed. But Biff, before I kick out this first jam that you've chosen. Yes. You got any tour dates? Can we actually see Biff naked perform live anytime chosen. Yes. You got any tour dates? Like, can we actually see Biff Naked perform live anytime soon? Yes. Well, you know, we had a tour booked that's been postponed twice.

And as it stands, we're hoping it's still going to happen in October. And that's with Age of Days and Buck Cherry. And so just check, yeah, check the internet. Locally around here, we got um an acoustic show in brampton at the rose theater hi and uh burnstown i don't know if you've ever heard of this place mike but this is a place for you if you ever have an opportunity to go to the neat cafe it is your kind of place it's in burnstown we're there the 9th and 10th of July. Oh my God.

Is Snake going to be there? Yeah, it's a rock show. It's a rock show. And we're playing in Edmonton. And we're playing in Saskatoon in August. Wow. Amazing. So just to let Cam and Stu know,

Snake, who is lucky enough to live with this woman, Biff Naked, lucky guy, he's covered in in kiss tattoos. Like the band kiss? Wait, Snake Snake? No, it's not Snake from Degrassi. Okay. That would be something else.

No, it isn't. That would be really something, but it isn't. It's Snake from my band, who's also a guitar player, and very, very shy, but he will come out of his shell for Mike. Isn't there a person named Snake

in the band Voivod, too? Am I imagining that? There's a lot of snakes out there. There's one in Skid Row, I believe. There's a snake in Skid Row. Jake the Snake Roberts. The deadly snake? There's a snake in The Simpsons.

Jake the Snake Roberts, actually, isn't he more of a politician or is he really just like an older wrestler? No, you're confusing him with... He's a wrestler. Yeah, he's a wrestler. Like Jake Tapper? Oh, Jesse Ventura. Yeah, Jesse Ventura. Is that who it is?

Yeah. There's also on Full House, there was a guy called Viper. Oh, Viper. Yeah. Wow. Okay. And hopefully the guy on Full House named Viper. Oh, Viper, yeah. Hopefully the guy on Full House named Viper doesn't have a kid in college.

You like that? I know there's stuff happens in the world and it's tied into that. Well, they go to jail if their kid snakes happen. That is the rumor. That's right. I get it. That's a Becky joke. I get it.

Pay your way in. We're it. That's a Becky joke. I get it. All right. I get it now. Pay your way in. We're going to kick out a jam, and then Biff's going to tell us why she chose this jam. This is kicking off our night of a woman who rock. Biff, of course, the woman who rocks the most. The most. Honestly.

Biff, do you even realize how fucking talented you are? She knows. God bless you. God bless you. I don't think I can bless She knows. God bless you. God bless you. I don't think I can bless you enough from God and myself. I can't move now because I can't leave any neighborhood that has Biff naked as a resident. And actually, MF just texted me. He said, Biff naked, fun.

Oh, that's a fan. MF is a fan. Fun is my favorite word, by the way. My girlfriend thinks you're fun, which I agree. Hey, fun is good. Okay. It's good. Here's the jam. Now, the first bit is a bit fun is good. Okay. It's good. Here's the jam.

Now, the first bit is a bit quiet, but it's worth the wait here. Here we go. So let's get a little build up here. Let's biff naked. I love myself today. Here we go. Here we go. That's a fun song. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work.

I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work.

I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work.

I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. I'm just trying to find a way to make it work. Never guess what they told me I'm not trying enough Come on girl, roll up your sleeves Put another face on Sitting at your feet

Bled dry of tears Picking at the pieces of me you fear That when my feet find the ground I'll disappear Train me up Oh Train me up. Oh, train me up. Oh,

yeah. Train me up. Oh, it ain't gonna replace the love your daddy never gave to you okay biff i find it interesting though that you had a big hit here with uh daddy's getting married but meanwhile this song is called this is not piff naked of course but this is daddy's love by dellon gray yes who's when i had daddy's getting, I was, I think, 24 years old. Dallin is only 21, 20 or 21. And Dallin Gray is really an artist to watch.

I've been very, very fortunate to have met and began to work with Dallin. And I have not met anyone as talented as this kid. Wow. Yeah. Sounds kind of gothy. It's really hard being a chick in the rock business. It's not just the musichy. It's really hard being a chick in the rock business. It's not just the music business, it's the rock business.

I'm very protective of Dylan, but I would also take Dylan on tour with myself, with L7, the Lunachicks, anybody. Oh, wow. That'd be a great tour. I'd go. We're there, Biff. Honestly, just tell us when and where. That's be a great, that's a great tour. I'd go. I'd go to that. We're there.

We're there, Biff. Honestly, just tell us when and where. That's like the opposite of Eden Fest, or not Eden Fest, Edith, Edith, what is it? Was it Edith Festival? You mean the Sarah McLachlan one? Yeah. This would be a harder version of that with that lineup. Oh, that one is called Lilith Fair.

Lilith Fair. Do you know there's an episode of Toronto Mic'd where we kick out the best of Lilith Fair, and my special guest for that episode is Biff Naked. Oh, that's amazing. Really? Very nice. You guys know. That's a lot of bands too.

It is a lot of bands. A lot of bands. And at the time that that started, it was really, really innovative and cool that they did that. Yeah, it was really, really cool. And Biff... Yeah, Dellen is a young artist from Toronto

that I think everyone should be introduced to and get to know now I'll just share with everybody that I'm good friends with Dellen this is a complete coincidence this is not why Biff kicked it out but I'm good friends with Dellen's dad oh boy how do you know Dellen's dad

Dellen's dad is very talented himself but he used to be on the Humble and Fred show as a character the name Dellen's dad is very talented himself, but he used to be on the Humble and Fred show. Oh, whoa. As a character, the name, Dellen's going to hate me saying the name, but he was known as Scary Bald Headed Pete. Oh, my God. Of course. Hilarious.

Of course. I know. So Scary Bald Headed Pete. That's her dad? Is the father of Dellen Gray, who's a fantastic young musician here. Follow the money. Love it. Isn't that mind-blowing so

i'm all choked up here i'm a bit amazing honestly i know you've got to go if you wanted to stick around you're just going to hear women who rock and it would be amazing if you stuck around but no pressure you want to stick around very nice that's very very nice of you what i want to do at some point this summer i I know everybody is getting second vaccines and whatnot and playing it safe. Once it's safe, I would love to come back and introduce you to the little

ace dog. We have a new, we have a 14 month old Yorkie. Oh, amazing. Grace Freely. Oh, how's your wrist? Grace Freely, that's hilarious. My wrist is hilarious. Of course, I'm coming up on the anniversary of breaking my wrist on the BMX. And I found it very daunting, very daunting to get the boxing gloves back on because my

wrist does not cooperate. That's okay, though. I like it. But Dr. Lopez says it healed okay. Dr. Lopez at St. Joe's. Was this like wrist chat? The wrist chat corner? We broke our wrists around the same time.

And we had the same doctor at the same fracture clinic. Oh, wow. Isn't that amazing? I bet you he liked her better than you. We have so many things in common. He's actually an artiste because the scar. He actually placed the tattoo. You can barely see it, he put the tattoo

back together, he was so worried. You got preferential treatment. I feel like Mike threw himself off his bike intentionally, just so he'd have more content to talk to you about. Also, I avoided going under the knife, so Biff had it much worse than I did. On your wrist.

Let's talk about your balls. Did Biff know about your balls i'm not gonna lie yeah i'm not gonna tell her i was in saint joseph's for four four days waiting for my surgery oh boy i had it had a eureka moment where i figured out i don't ever need to go to medical school if i want a job in the hospital to have access to patients i just need to be a porter oh this was actually got the best job in the hospital because they can just talk to patients and uh are you gonna do that everybody um no i'm gonna go on tour but you know i hopefully maybe i could play one on tv i don don't know. There you go. Porter is definitely the best. Before you go, Biff, because we're live at live.torontomic.com.

That's the pirate stream. Thanks, Ian Service, for setting that up. Amazing. And so people are watching us live, and I'm just looking at the reaction. So Ian himself just exclaims, Biff, with an exclamation mark. Tio Residence says, Biff naked, exclamation mark. Joe Garou, who's a big fan of Polkaroo. exclamation mark. Tio resident says, Biff naked, exclamation mark. Jokeroo, who's a big fan of Polkaroo,

yeah. He says, Biff, holy fuck, what a get, pardon my French. Wow, wow. And he keeps going on,

oh my God, Cambrio, apparently according to, Cambrio said, what's up, what's her address? Five, five dollar shake says,

Biff Tannins got nothing on Biff naked. Okay, that's nice. Biff did an awesome version of We're Not Gonna Take It. She's an awesome wrestler. Yeah, that was good. Is Biff a wrestler? Oh, I did have to do stunt wrestling in that video with a number of American wrestlers,

none of whom were Jake the Snake or Jesse Ventura. That was like the David Arquette wrestling movie? Yes, it was. I remember that video. Right. Ready to Rumble. Ready to Rumble. Sure.

That's right. From the Ready to Rumble soundtrack. Wow. This is amazing, Mike. Huge. And one more before Cam kicks out his first jam. T.O. Resident points out that on the IMDB page for Boys Club, you're listed, Biff, as liquor

store manager. Yeah. Manager. Not just an employee. That's Club. The Boys Club. You're listed, Biff, as liquor store manager. Yeah. Manager, not just an employee. That's amazing. I love saying that. Yahoo! She says, like, put the bottle down or something like that. That's right.

Yeah. Amazing. I did say that. Put the bottle down. Where do we go from here? So, Biff, amazing. Thanks so much. I cannot wait till you're in this.

Just so you know, I'm double vaxxed, so let me know when you want to come into the backyard. so much. I cannot wait till you're in this. I'm just, you know, I'm double vaxxed. So let me know when you want to come into the backyard. And Piff, I would love someday to see you again and give you a big hug when the world is safe again. It would be really nice to see you in person. Or reunite the... I think Devin's in town. I could bring Devin down

here and we could just be with... And we could see Biff. She could throw some bottles at you. That's so nice, you guys. You guys have made my entire month of June. There you go. Oh, you've made our year, I think. 2021 is complete here.

Okay, Biff, you rock. You guys rock. You have a wonderful evening. You have a great evening. Say hi to Snake for me. I know he's shy, but we get along. I think we had a rapport, me and Snake. You do, yes.

You have a connection. It's very sweet. I appreciate it. Peace and had a rapport, me and Sneha. You do, yes. You have a connection. It's very sweet. I appreciate it. Peace and love to you, Canada's rock goddess. Have a great night, you guys. See you later. Bye. Bye, Biff. That's a bucket list for you.

I'm sure. Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, you keep on one-upping. Yeah, that was big. Did you know that I was going to freak out? I forgot about your connection I heard her voice and immediately I recognized her from saying put that bottle down My worry was for this one

I thought it was too predictable You know how people like to guess And somebody did guess correctly on one of them I think it was Lieve Fumke who might have guessed Or Dale Cadot I don't know But I was worried well everybody knows that I have a good relationship with Biff. She's been over several times. She's my neighbor.

And if I'm doing Woman Who Rock, it's going to be Biff naked. It's so predictable. I think the only one I guessed was Jason Agnew for wrestling. Because I was trying to think. Either it was going to be him or like Milan, the watch guy. Jason Agnew. He knows his wrestling. But Jason Agnew.

That's a squirrel. A squirrel almost attacked Cameron. Yes. So Jason Agnew originally said, I'm happy to do it, Mike, but the mouth would be far better at this than I would be. And I didn't want the mouth to make his debut on a Pandemic Friday. I wanted it. So we did last week, we did a full episode, me and the mouth.

And Milan was here. And yeah, I realized Agnew's amazing, but the mouth is even better. Yeah, they went deep, him and Milan. I only knew the mouth from listening to their show, which was on like 1050 Chum or whatever it was back in the day. But I never saw what he looked like. And when I saw the picture, it was way different. You know how you like hear someone on the radio

and you imagine what they're going to look like? He did not look anything. Did you picture like a George Clo clooney looking mask i just didn't i don't know like he just didn't look anything like i thought this was me and tom rivers when i was a kid i would every morning wake up to tom rivers i'm not saying he looked bad i'm just saying he didn't look like i pictured i pictured a guy in my head what did tom rivers look like and i had that picture and then at some point i saw an ad, like there was a TV ad and Tom Rivers was there and he was like an overweight guy with a beard. And I'm like, I'm so fucking off. Like I got so long.

Didn't he kind of look like Leonard Moulton? No, I don't know. Maybe like an over a little bit of, if Uncle Jesse and Leonard Moulton had a baby. I mean, Uncle Jesse from Dukes of Hazzard. Yeah, probably. Not your Uncle Jesse. Jesse Katsopoulos.

That guy's way handsome. Okay. We're going to's way handsome. Okay. We're going to get rolling here. Okay. Can I say something serious? Is it about Biff? No, it's not. I feel like we did this like three weeks ago, sadly,

but just we're having a lot of laughs tonight, but just sort of reading the country right now, just acknowledging the news we heard today about out of Saskatchewan. Just fucking brutal. I think everyone who's listening knows this. But I just want to throw it out there just because we're very lucky we can sit here, kibbutz, laugh in the backyard meanwhile. Kibbutz.

That too. We can do both of those things. Just want to throw that out there. Can I ask a question? Thank you. About that factually because I don't I saw the headline and I'm waiting for Cam to give me his login for the Toronto Star so I can read the article. But obviously horrendous, no laughing matter, what was discovered in British Columbia a few weeks ago. And then obviously this happens today, and it's like, holy fuck, what's happening here?

I have a question. Is this a case like where they built a school over a burial site? I have an answer here. But do you understand why I'm asking? No, no, no. They built it on over a burial site? I have an answer here. But do you understand why I'm asking? No, no, no. The school has been around since... The culture guys, they built it on the Indian burial ground?

What happened was the church removed the gravestones in the 60s. So this is not a mass burial site. This is unmarked graves. So for some reason, the church removed the gravestones, but of course the bodies are still in the ground. So what you have are hundreds of unmarked graves. Wow, that's gross.

I know. I know. It's fucking gross. I mean, I was like, the last one was 215. Now we've got 750. I was just thinking like the Saskatchewan is not that big. Are both of those instances the same? Because I thought the last one, like, people were murdered or some shit.

The last one were undocumented, but there were no gravestones ever, I don't think, in the one in Kamloops. So it's just like people that were missing? Yeah, 215 people in the school died

and were buried on the premises. Okay, that's fucked up. This other one was initially a cemetery. They came and put their school there and said,

hey, get these headstones. No, the school was there. Sure. The school was there first. The school was there before the bodies were there? Yeah, the school's been there since the 1800s, like the late 1800s, I think. Okay, the school was there. Sure. The school was there first. The school was there before the bodies were there? Yeah, the school's been there since the 1800s,

like the late 1800s, I think. Okay. So school's there. Students die, probably due to a variety of reasons, including abuse and malpractice, et cetera. There are,

apparently there were gravestones to mark the burial site of the human who passed away. And those, at some point in the 1960s, my understanding is the church decided to remove all the grave stones so now you the bodies are all still there so how did that go

unreported until 2021 that's that's our great that's canada's great shame that's canada's great wow because if this happened in 1961 like everybody was wrong obviously an open secret this this we're now learning that's awful one of canada's great uh secrets uh i think it's gonna be months if not years of this too like this is this is gonna be this is gonna be like painful i mean it's just disrespectful in every imaginable way that you can imagine never mind the cause of death which i don't still fully understand but the fact that if there were stones up marking the deaths of people and someone came and just removed the stones as if it was

meaningless, that is just disgusting. And people, whether they're native or any background, everybody's a human being, and that's not how you treat people. Because remember, these schools were to assimilate. What kind of schools was it? These Christian schools were meant

to convert, right? Some you sure? Catholic schools? Is there a difference? Some were Catholic, but not all of them were Catholic. I think there were other Christians. Are you Catholic? I was raised Catholic, yeah. So are you protecting Catholics

by throwing this on the Christians? No. The Christian is like the big umbrella. Right. And in there you have Catholics. Sure, sure, sure. It was all an assimilation process. Yeah, it was meant

to convert you to Christianity or into Catholics. In theory, in theory. In the 60s? Well, from the 1800s till the 90s. I think the school closed in 1997. That's just gross.

Because if you were an indigenous person with your own faiths and religion, they would think of you as like a heathen who didn't have a soul until you converted to Christianity. That's just fucked up shit. The whole mission.

It's all fucked up. Yeah, super fucked up. Well, I want to say that I'm happy that Cam brought that up. And obviously, the three of us are all in agreement. I'm sure everybody who's listening to this that has a pulse, that is a human being, that is raised like a fucking normal person, feels awful about this. And I don't know how do you apologize you don't do you say like can the school be like we're sorry like you it's too late but like so what yeah great it's very very difficult it's very difficult like one thing you have to do is you have to teach this like this is

the first thing you got to do yes is you need to add this to the curriculum and teach it as it was not the uh version we got which was like the sanitized uh you know uh we never learned this i wasn't i wasn't taught this i'll say this like i feel like a lot of people you know that the the statue of ryerson comes down and the john emmy donald statue comes down a lot of people kind of roll their like they're just just fucking statues. But if this gives anybody some closure about these atrocities, that's some fucking statues that nobody really cares about. Anyway, regardless if it's the name of the

school or the first time I've been there. What do they do with the statue when they take it and throw it out? I think the statue of Ryerson ended up on some indigenous land. Yeah, because there were photos of it out in a field or something. I've seen it. I think they have it as like a... That was basically... The colonizer has now been captured

symbolically. So they're using it as some kind of... I thought it was quite profound, the photos they saw. As much as anything can be in this sort of disposable age. It had red paint and it looked kind of like blood, I noticed. It was very powerful, that image that they had it on the indigenous land. Anyway. The reserve.

Yeah, terrible. It's fucked. So brace yourself, though, because this is going to get a lot worse. You think there's more of these? I think there's a lot more of these. Like tons. But is that just in Canada, or is that everywhere where these schools are? Well, these particular residential schools are a Canadian thing.

Yeah, I'm sure other countries have their own similar shames, but this is ours. That's fucked up, man. ours. That's fucked up, man. Anyway, it's fucked up. And now I'm going to ask the great Gordon and that's it. Nine more to go. Uh,

Cam, are you going to say anything before I kick out your first woman who rocks? Uh, how do you follow? How do you follow Biff naked? Really? Yeah, it's,

it's tough. I mean, it's, this show has already been a real roller coaster. Um, but anyway, when we, to bring it up a notch when you know we're gonna talk about women who rock i thought do i go with someone sort of like nuance or do i just go like right from the top like who i who i thought was number one on this list is it let's let's just start off with a bang The middle of the road Is trying to find me I'm standing in the middle of life

With my pants behind me I got a smile For everyone I meet As long as you don't tie Draggin' my bag Droppin' the bomb on my street Come on, baby Get in the road

Come on now In the middle of the road, yeah Okay, The Pretenders featuring the great Chrissy Hynde. I feel like we've heard The Pretenders before on Pandemic Fridays. I'm trying to think when. I kicked them out as songs I liked better after seeing them on television shows. I believe that's the same episode when I kicked out Metallica's Heroes of the Day. The Deuce.

Trying to forget that. The Deuce uses a Pretenders song as their theme and I fucking loved it. Yeah. Middle of the Road, name of this song this was a number 19 hit in the u.s uh from the album learning to crawl i see kareem hanging out there in the background he's putting out the recycling it looks like the jam i kicked out was called mystery achievement okay that that song rocked too that that could have been a fit here it's from the first pan pretenders album yeah this is the self-titled uh pretenders from akron oh partially from akron ohio i mean it's some british guys isn't it just her from akron yeah she's from

akron chrissy hind uh let's just get into the sre geography corner early let's give it i have a few of these today so let's just do this one quickly. Famous folks from Akron. LeBron James. Of course, most famous. LeBron James. Also, Steph Curry. Really? I didn't know that. I thought he was born in Toronto.

Well, I was trying to think. Like, Del Curry is his dad. He was born in Toronto. I don't think he was born in Toronto. He lived here for a while. Yeah, when his dad was a Raptor. Yeah, but I'm thinking Del Curry was a famous player at the time. With all due respect to Akron, why was he living in Akron at that time?

Maybe, well. Anyway. Did his dad ever play for the Cavaliers? Is that your deep dive tomorrow? Stop. But Seth Curry was actually born somewhere else. Anyway, other people who lived in Akron. These are some big names. Clark Gable. Wow.

Casablanca, right? This is like, if you're a Harry and the Hendersons fan, John Lithgow. I'm a big Harry and the Hendersons fan. There you go John Lithgow. I'm a big Harry and the Hendersons fan. There you go. Get out of here, Harry. We don't need you. That's so good.

And that makes me cry every time because he really loves him, but he wants him to go. Get out of here, Harry. God damn it, Harry. I feel like we lost the guy who played Harry in the Hendersons. I think we did too. Yes. And a couple of musicians here from kind of opposite ends of the spectrum. The late Johnny Lane from Warrant saying Cherry Pie.

Get out of here! Harry! I'm always surprised he's passed because Cherry had its moment. Oh, Cherry. Cherry had its moment. And Warrant had their moment. Somebody I think was in USA for Africa, James Ingram. He's alive.

He's alive. He's still with us. And a regular collaborator with Michael McDonald. Yeah, Stu's kicked out a bit of James Ingram. He's alive. He's alive. He's still with us. And a regular collaborator with Michael McDonald. Yeah, Stu's kicked out a bit of James Ingram. Okay, here's a question for you. Okay, especially you, Mike. You're a real big number, Mike. You probably have a lot of things in your life.

I'm going to get a t-shirt that says really big number. Yeah. Okay, this is a serious question. I mean, it's lighthearted, but serious. I'm only going to do nine more of these. I kind of am liking you guys again for five minutes. Do you ever remember... Please, focus.

Do you ever remember seeing something on TV... No. ...as a kid, and it sort of haunted you for the rest of your life? Of course. Did I think... Okay, for me, mine was... There's some compilation...

It was a video on MuchMusic. I thought it was like a Greenpeace video for, I don't know if you remember an album called Rainbow Warrior. There was a boat called Rainbow Warrior, I believe. And a lot of artists contribute song to this compilation album. Like U2 was on there, Peter Gabriel and Lou Reed, I think. Okay. But it was a mashup of all these songs, including, pride in the name of love and also rem the end of the world as we know it and it was like slaughtering whales and stuff in this do you

oh that'll do you see this that i don't remember chat room know this song what is it can i share but something i saw as a kid that what is it called still haunts me i don't know what it was sure i caught something on tv i thought it might be like a little house in the prairie or something like that and they were in like an the prairie or something like that. And they were in like an old prairie farmhouse. There's no electricity. This is way back when. And all I know

is that they go to bed and when they wake up, the little girl wakes up and like her brother or the dad or somebody has been like, it's like he was attacked by a bear or something.

Oh, shit. I know. And this thing, I was scared of bears for the longest fucking time. Like in Toronto, living in Toronto. You should still be, by the way, unless they Oh, shit. I know. And this thing, I was scared of bears for the longest fucking time. Like, in Toronto, living in Toronto. You should still be,

by the way, unless they're Berenstain bears. I used to have nightmares like a bear was jumping through the window of my house and stuff. Like, I had a huge bear phobia. So, sorry,

this was a movie you saw? I don't know what it was. I still don't know what I caught. I was very young and I caught it on TV. It might have been something like

Little House on the Prairie or something. You know what haunted me for years and is still like... The Doctor Who team. No, this is like a serious comment. Okay. It was a TV commercial about like cruelty to animals where they showed like just a cow going in the

abattoir and getting like electrocuted or something and just like... Anyway, this is fucking getting dark. I think that was No Country for Old Men. I will say that I used to stay home and watch MTV all day. We had the satellite. Who's watching that? MTV guy. And whenever this song

would come on middle of the road, me and my sister Carrie, we would fucking turn the fucking channel. We were so angry because we just wanted Duran Duran

or Michael Jackson and this was real music. Now that I'm an older goat cheese enjoying gentleman, I appreciate the Pretenders and Chrissy is awesome and I'll stand by you as a classic jam. The ballad, yeah. But can we continue the Pretenders chatter

and the Chrissy Hines tribute following my first jam? Wow, you guys both went. Okay, there you go. This is a good song. See, I love it. It sounds incredible. Like the bass. I don't know.

The early pretenders is top notch. There's sort of this southern kind of accent she puts on sometimes when she's singing. I thought she was like more like Bonnie Raitt, like country gal. All right. So what a coincidence that Cam and I both lead off with the pretenders. But is it like women who rock? Like who rocks more than Chrissy Hynde? How do you not pick Chrissy Hynde?

So let me give you some fun facts that you failed to inform us of, Cam Gordon. So firstly, you mentioned the whole Akron, Ohio. She moved to London in 1973, by the way. But here's a fun fact. To get a work permit to work in the UK, she came this close to marrying I don't know if you caught this one, Sid Vicious. Yeah, I feel like that's folklore.

I'm not sure I buy that. This is not some Gerard Depardieu green card gimmick. She came this close. I do know she was sort of around. There's a lot of photos of her hanging out with the young sex pistols and stuff. I don't buy it.

She was working at that Malcolm McLaren sex. I think it's called a sex. Yeah. I just, I'm dubious of that story. I've heard it too. I'm sticking with that story. It's a good story. So this is from the self-titled debut.

And this comes out, the single comes out in 1980. Let's just say, oh, well, maybe single comes out in 1980. Let's just say, oh, well, maybe it came out in late 79, but it hits number one in early 1980, number one on the UK charts, I'll just point out. This is actually now the second song I've kicked out from that first Pretenders album,

because as you remembered, I previously kicked out Mystery Achievement. The whole fucking album is amazing. I'll just say Chrissy Hine rocks. There are great duets with Chrissy Hine. She did something with Frank Sinatra. She did something with Cher. Who could forget UB40 and Chrissy Hine doing I Got You Babe.

She's really versatile. I feel like hard rock fans love her. The indie kids love her. The punk kids love her. She's huge. Adult contemporary works there too. And she even had a pretty popular arc on a little show

people seemed to enjoy in the 90s called Friends. Oh, that's right. Chrissy Hine was singing like Smelly Cat with Phoebe? Phoebe Snow. What's the name of Phoebe? I don't watch Friends. You should have asked Doodoo the Clown about Phoebe. Oh, I didn't know to. Because, Phoebe Snow. What's the name of Phoebe? Phoebe. I don't watch Friends. I should know.

You know, you should have asked Doodoo the Clown about Phoebe. Oh, I didn't know, too. Because that's his cousin. Phoebe Snow? No. Yeah, Lisa Kudrow is a Farberman. Look at her.

You can totally see it. She is a Farberman. I need to see her in makeup and a big red nose. I'm not making this up. She is a Farberman. Wouldn't it be funny if Stu kicks out

a Pretender's jam right now? Well, I would have. Phoebe Buffay? Oh, yeah, yeah. Something like that. She's related to Steve Buffay. Remind me,

who's Phoebe Snow? You're maybe thinking of Chrissy Snow. No, it's a Phoebe Snow. Yeah, that's somebody. I'll Google it while you introduce your first jams, too.

Yeah, I mean, this is a girl's band that rocks. Not my first choice of song, but I guess Mike is being really stringent on not replaying songs we've already heard. Yeah, that's true. Stu's original four-song submission

included three songs that have already been kicked out. And I'm enforcing the rule. I'm enforcing the rule. He enforced it, so I was forced to pick another song. Do you want to hear about Phoebe Snow first? Sure. She was an American singer, songwriter, and guitarist known for her hit 1975 songs

Poetry Man and Harpo's Blues. Poetry Man. So Phoebe Snow. She's no longer with us. My mother just texted me. She wants to hear your first jam. She says her friend Ora was on Just Like Mom with her kid and won.

Whoa. What did they win? A Disney World vacation? I can ask. Oh. 14-inch. Mark Wiseblood is coming to the backyard on July 6th. Is he single?

Because I can hook him up with my mom. I think he might be single. Now, Mark Wiseblood wants to refute something Paul Burford said about the prizes. Yeah, he seemed pissed, too. He thinks they're shitty prizes, I think, because he was on the show. So he's going to come in and say that saying they're good prizes is bullshit. Well, okay, it was two weeks at Camp Onondaga. Onondaga.

Onondaga. Like, Playmobil shit was accurate. Like, that was a prize. But Disney World was a prize, right? Yeah, a watch. Like accurate. That was a prize. But Disney World was a prize, right? Yeah, a watch. A bowl of a watch. Yeah, but I guess in the early 80s? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

What was he complaining about? Who? Weisblot? Yeah. I think he's going to make a case on July 6th that the prizes were shit. I think that's what we're going to get. Well, that's just a Canadian game show thing in general. Yeah. You got some free Robin Hood flour, though. Well, of course. But do kids want flour? Well, you know.

I don't know. It's more for the mom. Yeah, that's right. Every time they say mom, I think about Uncle Bobby. It would be... They should give an Easy Bake Oven or something like that. Well, like Kid Street had the toy heaven.

To be discussed... Oh, speaking of game shows, this is huge. He perked right up. My family and I are being considered... Are you ready for this? To be... Family Feud Canada. Yes.

What's his name? The guy, Mr. D. Can you imagine if the Stones Get on Family Feud I want Cherry D on the program to talk about it By the way, Moose Grumpy reminds me Hello to everybody watching at live.troddlemic.com Don't forget, Bob Willett He won just like Dad

I'm supposed to go on Bob's basement But maybe I'll wait for tomorrow Maybe we'll do counter programming Wait was it Bob who had Paul Linguas I've never been offered any tragically hip people I just want to point out No but I'm saying we can counter program Your guys nature of things with David Suzuki

Deep dive Your 3-2-1 contact deep dive We can counter program that By airing at the same time against you guys I welcome I welcome the competition Because we're going to blow some fucking minds, not just Andy Pandy, but tons. Tons. Ow.

Have you advertised what it is about? No. So it's a surprise? I might have did a tweet. I might have spoiled it in a tweet, but who reads my tweets? Well, the only thing I could think of that would make Andy Pandy excited would be maybe a television show that's from the

whatever. Okay, set up that first jam so Trudy can hear it. I don't want to ruin it. That's huge. Like I said, there's a tweet. Is it Degrassi? Yes, it's a particular TV movie. Oh, like the Joey Fuck Tessa movie? Got it. Okay. Joey Fuck Tessa movie? Got it.

Joey Fuck Tessa Campanelli? Yeah. It's so much more than that. Don't characterize it. It's going to blow your mind. Jesus. So I picked another song by this band, but they were women that rock. The lead singer

rocks. And here's the song. Oh, make me over. I'm all I want to be. I'll walk and study. In demonology. Hey, so glad you could make it Yeah, now you really made it

Hey, so glad you could make it now Oh, look at my face My name is Matafeon My name is My name is My name is So glad you can make it When I wake up In my makeup It's only us right now. When I wake up in my makeup, it's too early for that dress.

We're dead and faded somewhere in Hollywood. I'm glad I came here with your pound. All right, Mike. I'm enjoying this. Go ahead. I will say, you know, the thing you've got to respect about whether you love her or you hate her, because she's a polarizing figure. And I did like Miss World, and I did like Doll Parts and that whole... And Violet. Yeah, sure.

The whole album. Live Through This. Live Through This, right. Whether you love her or hate her, you've got to give her credit for at least... I mean, that's the authentic her on these songs. Even when they started working with other songwriters, and this is obviously more of like a pop rock sort of sound. Isn't this a Billy Corgan?

Well, we'll get to that. Oh, my apologies. It's okay. But she doesn't have auto-tune on her vocals. It's an earnest sort of Courtney Love performance, and I think that's what people love about her. But we went to the concert, Cam and I, I think. Sure.

And she had her leg up on the. Which, where did you see that? Lollapalooza when. Molson Park. Molson Park. Because I saw her at Molson Park. Yeah. And, you know, she had her whole leg up on.

She used to put her leg up on the thing and do that whole. Snarling. Snarling. You know, so she's, as far as the 90s go, I mean, there's other acts that came around that rocked. I'm sure we'll hear some of them. acts that came around that rocked. I'm sure we'll hear some of them. But none of them have the staying power of Hole

and Courtney Love, I don't think. There's one I think of. I don't know if I should mention them in case they come up, but No Doubt, I'd say. Well, it's different. No Doubt always seemed like a pop band. They're more ska. I'm talking about just a rock band.

Sure, you're right, buddy. You're right. You know, Cordero's not doing songs with Pharrell. No. Celebrity Skin, that's by a whole. That's their 10th single, if you could believe it or not. That came out in 1998. They'd already done nine singles.

That song really holds up well. It did sound great, eh? It did sound fucking great. That's why I didn't bring it down. But VP of Sales comes with the, you know, he meticulously maintains the kick of the jam spreadsheet, which measures. That's why I go there and I say, oh, why did Stu pick three out of four?

Now, what I can tell you is that both the Pretenders and Hole, they're in an exclusive club of acts that we've kicked out four times. Is Toto in that club? Toto, four times, but two jams. You kicked out the same two jams twice. Great songs. Oh, yeah. Was it Georgie and...

Pinky Pinky? No, Rosanna and Georgie. Wow. Georgie Porgy. Yeah. But no Africa. No Africa. So there's still time.

All right, let me just get through my whole stuff. Okay. The song you just heard was their most commercially successful single that they've ever had, which surprised me because I remember Malibu being kind of

a big hit for them. And that was kicked out by Cam at some point. Hole's most commercially successful single. Are you ready for this, guys?

Yeah. Their most commercially successful singles. Where did it chart on the Billboard Hot 100? Their most commercially successful single.

19. 58. 85. Wow. That surprises me. Was it released as a single? There were a lot of weird things going on back then. I mean, it surprises me.

It went to number one on the alternate charts and the rock charts and modern rock and all these other places. But on the Billboard Hot 100, number 85, which really surprises me that that's the biggest success that they've had on the chart. Because Malibu seems like a top 10 song. The grain of sand in the ointment here is that there are a lot of funny rules as to what would be so, there might be a reason

Mark Wiseblood's probably listening right now screaming out the reason. They didn't issue it as a single. But was Malibu on Mix 99.9? I feel like it never really crossed over into MOR. Chum FM.

Was Marilyn kicking it out? Real quick, guys. Shout out to Roger and Rick. Aaron Davis. The song was written, as you said, by Courtney Love, who did the lyrics, and Billy Corrigan. Ooh. Right?

If you look at Hole's catalog of work, there's clearly, this might be the first time Billy Corrigan is credited, but I mean, you can see his influence even all over the first album. Even if you watch the video for Miss World, which I sent to you because that was my pick initially, there's a giant sign on the stage that says, like, cleanliness is godliness or something. It's like a Smashing Pumpkins lyric. My thought, though, was that Live Through This

was a big Kurt album. Of course, Kurt. Of course. Kurt's involved for sure. And I know Michael Stipe was hanging with her for a little while. And Evan Dando, she was getting around. Evan Dando. That's going to tie into a jam we're going to

play. No, don't think about it. All I can tell you, Stu, is that I'm glad you kicked out some Hole because Courtney Love is a woman who rocks. She does rock and that's celebrity skin and that's it. And Cambrio wants to shout out the Canadian member of Hole, at least on that album there, Melissa Oftemont.

She's great, by the way. Yeah, and she's also in the Pumpkins now. That makes sense. Because Darcy's long gone. That makes sense. I don't think she is anymore, but she was for a time. She was for a time. And her dad was like a journalist or like a poet or something.

I want to say Nick. There's a story there. Yeah, you got to dig into that. Someone in the comment section uh cambry also mentions that courtney was blacklisted in the early 2000s for speaking badly about uh harvey weinstein harvey weinstein yeah that's right yeah it's on camera i've actually seen that clip she's like watch out for this guy she's like it's like hindsight yep right great start what a great opening round uh cam anything to say before yeah this one okay a few intros this one actually has a lot of interesting fun facts this is also

remember a few weeks ago we've talked about this like dan seals bop stew's reaction i have not thought about this song in 35 years right i feel like Stu might have a similar reaction to this, even though I'm pretty sure he owned the CD that this song is from. Huh. So let's listen. Beauty can be sad. Yeah. I haven't heard this song in 20 years. There you go. There you go.

Knew it. I haven't heard this band in 20 years. Is it a Perica song? Close. Close. I like this song. Hey! I like her. See, I could see why you think it's Perica song. Is this the girl from The Wizard? Wasn't she in a band? Yeah, but that's not her. I could see why you think it's Vergasol.

Is this the girl from The Wizard? Wasn't she in a band? Yeah, but that's not her. What band was she in? The Good That Won't Come Out. Jenny Lewis. Yeah, Jenny Lewis. This isn't Jenny Lewis.

Rilo Kiley. Rilo Kiley. Okay, so there was another band. This is not who we're hearing. Letters to Cleo. I feel like DJ Farbsy's cousin was in Letters to Cleo. Wow. Everyone's connected.

Yeah. Anyway, this is none of those artists. This is, of course. Letters to Cleo. Juliana Hatfield. Is that a ska band, Letters to Cleo? No. Okay, Juliana Hatfield.

Letters to Cleo? Juliana Hatfield, yes. What the hell is that? Is that a band? You know them to hear them. Farbsy's cousin. Name a song. Universal Heartbeat. This was a bigfield. Yes. What the hell is that? Is that a band? You know them to hear them. Farbsy's Cousins. Name a song. Universal Heartbeat.

This was a big hit. Yeah. What's the band? Juliana Hatfield Trio? The Juliana Hatfield Trio. Formerly a trio. Juliana Hatfield 3. This was on the radio?

Is this credited to the Juliana Hatfield 3? Brother, brother. No, I think this is Juliana Hatfield's solo. Okay, because the big song I remember was My Sister. Do you remember this song? That was one of our other hits. Okay, yeah. I'm going to fucking burn through some

fun facts. These are really good. I'm going to need you to mute his mic, please. Why? What the hell did I do? Nine more weeks and you're free of this son of a bitch. Anyway, Julianna Hatfield grew up in Boston. Her father claims that they were descendants of the Hatfields

and McCoy feud. Wow. When I read that, it sent me into a YouTube deep dive about that feud. That ties into the real McCoys. Remember the real McCoys? Those are real? Yeah, that's another. That's another.

Yes. Ah! Okay. Julianne Hatfield went to Berklee College of Music. We all did. Of course. Here are some famous people that went there. Oh, my God.

It's going to be a big list. It's going to be a good list, so get comfortable. Donald Fagan. Wow. Stu's Bob and Steely Dan. Yes. We got Melissa Etheridge. Whoa! We got Brantford. She's a woman who rocks. I like Marcellus. Somebody bring me some water. Brantford Marcellus. Yeah, Chicken Marcellus.

We have White Clef Sean. White Clef Sean went to Berkeley. That surprises me. That does surprise me. Remember, there's a relationship between Stu and Marcellus. Yeah, I didn't know that he was a Berkeley student. That does surprise me. And remember, there's a relationship between students. Yeah, I didn't know that he was a Berkeley student. That's pretty wild. We got Quincy Jones. Wow.

Big deal. That's a big fucking deal. We've got Ed Roland, the singer from Collective Soul. We got Charlie Puth. Wait, Puth? Charlie Puth? Puth. Puth.

Because my daughter likes Charlie. It's Puth, I think. What a pedo. This one could have made the list. Jodi Kai. Could have made the list. Jodakai. Could have made the list. Annie Clark, St. Vincent. Oh, yeah.

You know her? Yeah, they're great. And a couple more. A couple of Canadians. What about Haim? Did they go there? A couple of Canadians went there. One is Diana Krall.

Wow. Mary Talvis Costello. Who I also kicked out that same episode when I kicked out the pretend. That's right. And last but not least, and this is Mike's favorite part of every show. I'm ready. Here's your Northern Lights force fed, Bruce Coburn.

You know, because I have a relationship with his manager. I have a relationship with his manager, so at some point, you know, Bruce will make it. Bernie Finkelstein. At some point, he'll be on the mic. I never knew this at the time because she was, you know, pretty popular.

She was famous in the 90s for being a virgin. I didn't know that. She did interviews with Sassy. I guess she had mentioned it. Julianne Hatfield. Yeah, she dated Evan Dando for a while. But since they never had sex, she said, and I think it was Sassy magazine, she didn't lose her virginity until she was 26.

Wow. At that time, she lost it to Spike Jonze. Wow. Yeah, not the 50s comedian, but the 90s director. The director of Sabotage. Weezer, Buddy Holly. Yeah, a lot of big videos. The Jackass movies.

That's right. Yes, he was in that. And the Bjork, that great video. Oh, so quiet. Funny Grandpa, whatever that one was. And the one with Christopher Walken. The Christopher Walken one. Was it Fatboy Slim? The Out There Brothers.

Oh, we never talked about the Brothers yet. I still have six more fun facts. I'm going to go through these really quickly. Actually, I'm going to skip that one. No, I want that one. She played at the Trinity Center in Toronto. Do you remember this venue? It was like a church.

She actually played with, and the opener for Julianne Affleck was Jeff Buckley. Oh, wow. That's pretty cool. And then I was looking at Jeff Buckley. Other times he played in Toronto. He actually played at Say What? You know that bar?

Yeah, Charles Street and Young. Yeah. And other people who played at Say What? Jeff Buckley, Jewel. Jewel. Feist. Feist. Wow.

Rufus Wainwright and Wilco. All played at Say What? Wilco. All played at, say what? Wilco. Small room. I'll bet you Dave Hodge was there. Hodgey. Okay, a couple more fun facts. I actually saw Julianne Hadfield when I was at McMaster.

She opened a show at the Campus Bar of the Downstairs, John, for Hayden. Oh my God, it comes full circle. This is it. We should shut it down now. No more episodes. And that. Cam, are you double vaxxed yet? I'm going Sunday to the Scotiabank arena.

Wow. I'll take photos because I'm curious what the setup is. Last but not least, Julianne Atfield released a lot of music the last 20 years, even though she hasn't had a lot of hits. Right. No hits. Interestingly, in 2016, she appeared on an album by, get this, Peter Gammons.

Oh, like the baseball guy? He had an album? Yeah, an album called Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old. That's mind-blowing. He did a cover of A Heart That... No, but there were a lot of covers on it, but people who appeared on this album other than Julianna Hatfield include George Thurgood.

Yeah, Bad to the Bone. And then here's some names we probably haven't thought of for a while. You got Jonathan Papelbon. Oh my gosh. You got Kevin Euclid. You got Trotnickson. You got Tim fucking Wakeelbon oh my god you got kevin euclid you got trot nixon you got tim fucking wakefield oh my god knuckleballer anyway that's all i got juliana hatfield wow he could still be pitching yeah uh i just wanted the vp of sales just wants to mention that dave foley's former girlfriend uh is amy man he just wants that that was a mind blow yeah that we one day i think there's an episode in the books. We're just going to just repeat all the mind blows. The best of.

Well, Rosie Gray Teo will be taking notes so he can do all the updating. I'm glad you kicked out Julian Hatfield. And Evan Dando, of course, Lemonheads. I heard his cover of Mrs. Robinson before I heard Simon and Garfunkel's Mrs. Robinson. So I just want to throw that out there. You say that very sheepishly. I wasn't that young. Like I was probably like 14 or 15.

I wasn't that young. It was easy to miss stuff before the internet. Don't worry about it. So Mrs. Robinson, as far as I was concerned, was a Lemonhead song. Thank you very much. Crunch song. 91 maybe.

I was probably 16. Who knows? Okay. So let me kick out my second jam. An artist I believe was referenced by the great Biff Naked. Come on. What's up with what's going down In every city and every town Rampant styles is the plan They've got us in the palm of their rainy hands When we pretend that we're dead

When we pretend that we're dead They can't hear all the words we said When we pretend that we're dead Dude, Stu has the hockey game on him. This is exciting. Fuck that. That's so disrespectful. Disrespectful.

Who are you rooting for in that hockey game? I don't know what you're talking about. I haven't watched my hockey game. This is a good pick. This is a good pick. Yeah, thank you. They were on my list. L7.

Okay, so this is... I'm surprised because I just have... L.A. band. I remember L7. This is like some Mandela effect kind of thing because I just remember L7 being so hard. And this song is not that hard. No, this is like a grunge staple, I would say. Yeah.

I just didn't remember this being L7. I just pictured them to rock a lot harder. Because, you know, you thought they were really heavy because bricks are heavy. That's right. And that's the name of the album, Bricks Are Heavy. Okay, so a few facts. I don't know how fun they are, but basically this is an L.A. band. And by the way, the Dave Foley, Amy Mann reference was because Amy Mann went to Berkeley.

Okay, and how did we learn this? I think VPS sales just downed it somewhere. I don't know. He's very, but again, a shout out to Magnolia, which is a great movie. Actually, I feel like Dave Foley sent a tweet about this or something. They are making new, not run related. They're making new episodes for Prime of Kismah Hall. Yeah, I saw that.

We're featuring FOTM, Kevin McDonald. Okay. So in 1991, L7, by the way, the L7, that name, where does that come from? That derives from a slang term for square, L7, I guess because, yes, exactly. It's a slang word for square, term for square. 1991. So are they squares? In 1991, the band formed Rock for Choice, which was a pro-choice women's rights group.

That's cool. And concert series that raised funds to cover legal expenses due to the prolonged anti-abortion violence and women's clinic bombings of the 80s and 90s. So that is very good. I'm proud of that. And then Bricks Are Heavy, I mentioned, this is their third album.

Came out in 92. And who wants to guess who produced this album, this song? I think I know this. Can I guess? Was it Butch Vig? It is Butch Vig. Okay. Well done.

Well done. This band appeared in John Waters' 1994 film Serial Mom. In that movie, they were known as Camel Lips. Wow. Was that Kathleen Turner? Serial Mom. How about that? That was Kathleen Turner. Okay. Was that Kathleen Turner? Serial Mom. How about that? Yes, that was Kathleen Turner.

Okay, yeah. I don't think Divine was in that. I think Divine had passed away by then. But the video was featured, of course, the video for Pretend We're Dead, which still rocks, was featured on an episode of Beavis and Butthead. Yeah.

They were discussing who would win a battle between Tiffany Wilson Phillips and Debbie Gibson. And Beavis and Butthead decided that the one chick from L7 could kick all their asses combined. Although Debbie Gibson's kind of feisty. She might win. Are you playing any of her tonight?

Well, let's see. We're not even halfway done here. What is the second jam from Stu Stone? Well, I'll tell you what, Mike. We've been playing a lot of... The show should just be 90s girls that rock well the pretenders okay most of it is the first two songs yeah live.torontomike.com are we still live i gotta check in so um yeah i'm gonna play a band that some of you may have heard of maybe you

haven't it's sort of like a, you know, if you know that you'd know them by their music type of band. I know that site. I'm going to blank you. This is Canadian. Just drink it in. Oh, OK. This is lighter.

Sorry. What a jerk. What an asshole. OK. I stole his thing Oh Oh wow Pat scored Well, that's Here and Now by Letters to Cleo

featuring Kay Hanley on lead vocals, Greg McKenna on guitar, Joe Klompas on bass, Stacey Jones on drums, which we will talk about. Oh, no, we'll talk about Stace. And are you ready for this? On rhythm guitar and keyboards, Michael Eisenstein.

Okay. I recognize that last name. So Cam got his facts wrong. That was close. That was close. Michael Eisenstein. Where do I know that name? Now, how about this?

As a youngster, finding somebody named Michael Eisenstein in a liner note, because we used to read the liner notes, I would read the books. I want to know who's in the band. I want to know the personnel who produced it, who wrote it.

I want to know all that. The letters to Cleo. Michael Eisenstein. Unbelievable. Immediately claimed him as my cousin. So that's how Cam got that story. So that was a work? That's not necessarily a work, but I will say that this came- Is that a common last name, Eisenstein?

No, it is not. Bob Eisenstein. It's very possible that we are related But I'll say this Albert Einstein Many moons ago I got into a Twitter conversation About something or other And letters to Cleo came out

And I said Oh I think I'm related to Michael Eisenstein And somebody Sent it to him and he tweeted back And he said I don't know you, man, or something like that. So he doesn't think we're cousins. But did you tell him you're an Isaac? I did.

Because he thinks you're a stone, maybe. Yeah, I don't. He didn't take it seriously. Is he verified? I don't remember. Probably not. Neither am I. People would know this song as a staple from the television show.

I don't have a fucking clue. Melrose Place. Is it? Oh, is that right? I don't have a fucking clue. Melrose Place. Is it? Oh, is that right? I hit single. I know this song. I remember this song. This was a hit single from the Melrose Place soundtrack.

Wow. That's how it got. And it's a Canadian band? It's not a Canadian band. I feel like they're from Boston, too. They could be. I want to say something really wild now. Hole, their number one most commercially successful song.

Slaverty Skin. Number 85. Letters to Cleo. This is like that Sloan, Stu Stone, Jamie Kennedy thing. Right. Letters to Cleo. Number 65. Wow.

20 spots higher than Hole's most commercially successful song. There's a reason for the Hole. I'm going to find out. You find out. Actually, I have the Julianna Hatfield song we had. It went to number 84 on the Billboard Hot 100. So we're all in the same ballpark here, like all these women who rock.

Seem underrepresented on the charts. So there you go. Letters to Cleo here and now, my possible cousin. It's like society is a problem with a woman who can rock. Yeah. They just want you to be a pop act, stay in your lane,

leave the rock into the guys. That's bullshit. I think Biff was alluding to something. Totally agree. Which is kind of like bizarre in like the sexism around that is sort of bizarre. Like that men feel more manly

when like a man is singing to them than if a female is singing to them. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I can't wait to hear this guy sing to me. Oh, it's Chris Cornell in shirts off. Let's get bruskies. There are some great FOTMs who rock. I'm thinking of Lee Aaron.

Sure. I'm thinking of Carol Pope. A lot of miles. Is she an FOTM? Yes, I've never met her yet. She was on the show a few times. I don't think so. But Sass Jordan is another excellent example. Did you ever have Lois or Sharon? No. Do they rock?

Of course they rock. What kind of fucking comment is that? I saw them backstage at BNN once. I think they were the two remaining members, obviously, when passed away. The last Etobicoke Lakeshore Santa Claus parade which I think was 2019 they were the what do you call those people who lead the parade the special the marsh grand

Marshall thank you I'm like what are they fucking close people that they were I believe they're Jewish children were they yeah no I did not children's entertainers I mean by those children's entertainers well maybe Stu could text them, wish them congrats on the Juno. I actually have to say, I have no idea the religion of Sharon Lewis or Brian.

I feel like I read in the Canadian Jewish News or something. Well, you have to be Jewish to get in there. Did you read that? Do you read that? I think, isn't your boy? Yeah, Mark Weisbord's involved in that. I was actually going to try, like we were going to talk about doing some kind of

collaboration and then it didn't happen. But I still would be up to it. The great Ralph Ben-Murgy landed a podcast on the CJN network. Really? He still got Not That Kind of Rabbi. In fact, I dropped an episode before I hit the mic here of you guys from Ralph and Jonathan Torrens.

Whoa. That's on Not That Kind of Rabbi. That's big. But he's got a. What does he talk about on there? Not That Kind of Rabbi? Yeah. Interesting spiritual discussion. Should I be on there with him or is that not for me?

I went on it once. You should definitely be on there. You think so? Yeah, but you'll have to go on as Stuart Eisenstein. Well, then. None of this. I don't need. Stone bullshit.

I don't need Michael Eisenstein. Drop the mask. He's trying to find me. If anybody out there has some free time, Cambrio, maybe we can find Michael Eisenstein on Twitter again and try to drum up this conversation again.

Mike, can I ask you before we hear the next TMDS? Yes. Larry Fedorek, what's the name of his podcast? He's got two now. The one he's done 65 episodes of and is nominated for a canadian podcast award he's called i was eight and that series is complete now he's on to

the second one which is called what i just saw this name later that same life great great name do you who comes up with he came up with the name like he gets full credit for the name like i say this with a thousand percent sincerity like you there's some kick-ass like podcast names in the TMDS. Sometimes it's my idea, but a lot of times like, like on the DL was Dana's idea. She was always going to do on the DL. What's Lauren's podcast?

Not that kind of rabbi came from Ralph Ben-Murgy. I can't take credit for that one. Perfect for what that show is. And later that same life was a hundred percent of Larry Fedorik idea. A senior moment with Peter Gross. Like, come on. That's good.

That's really great. I have breaking news. My mother's friend, Ora, who went on just like mom with her kid and won. Yeah. They won a fridge full of food and the food that's in the fridge and the fridge itself was the prize.

A fridge full of food in a new fridge. That was probably at the time worth a good $600. She also says there is a cousin named Michael Eisenstein, but I don't know what he does. So my mom might be saying that Michael Eisenstein is my cousin. Cam, what does that say? She's not saying no. She's not saying no.

So it's still inconclusive. We need a little... He knew Jack. That's your father. Yodel and his dad and my dad were first cousins. So my mom's claiming that Michael Eisenstein is my cousin. Okay. From letters to Cleo.

Like, the stuff your dad did was kind of showbiz. Like, it was definitely, like, sort of in celebrity and stuff. For sure. Tell VP, hit him up and tell him, tell that waspy Jew. Oh. That's what it says right here. I'm just reading. VP of sales wrote that, not Jew. That's what it says right here. I'm just reading. VP of sales wrote that, not me.

Not kidding. I want to just tell him I'm his cousin according to my mom. But that's in quotes. We got to protect the VP of sales. No, that's Michael Einstein's Twitter bio. I don't want it to look like VP of sales was calling him a waspy Jew. Get a screen. VP of sales would never make sense.

I would say like Cam is a waspy Jew. Is Cam Jewish? Well, he's like by association. No. I don't pretend to know anything until people disclose. He grew up around enough of us. Yes. You've been to a few bar mitzvahs in your life?

I've never been to a bar mitzvah. Really? Never. But I went to a Catholic school. There were no Jews there. Yeah, we know what happened there. Is that the deep dive tomorrow? Anyway, what else you got loaded up?

All right. This is the third jam for Cam Gordon. Do you want to say any magic words before I press play? Other than Biff, we haven't had a CanCon yet, have we? Well, Biff, we didn't even kick out any Biff. Well, like her new protege. Oh, yes. Sorry, my grandfather and his dad were first cousins.

That's for VP of sales. This is an artist, is not an FOTM, but should be. I'm shocked that she's not, because I did consider some of the other names you mentioned, Sastro and the Learons, the Carol Pope. But I thought, why don't we hear this song? Because there's some good fun facts with this artist, too. Huh.

I actually know for a fact that Cam likes this song. Yeah, he does. This is a song that he really likes. That's a good group. Big Mike's music hit. This kind of sounds like Diet In Excess riff. It really does. Hey!

Oh! Hey! Ooh! Yeah, like New Sensation. Yeah. I'm trying to think of which In Excess song is that. Yeah. The way that the drums are being kind of played.

Ow! What you want it to be. Kim sings this at karaoke night. Is this a cover or is this a legit song? It's their song. It's an original. What you want me to do? Love is what I got for you. Hey, this could be sampled. Yeah, that would actually be a good song. Here's what I got for you. Ow!

Hey! This could be sampled. Yeah, that would actually be a good thing. Start up in the fucking house now. We'll be in the Toronto, my kids are in the town. If only I knew how to rap. That's not bad. Steph is here. Oh!

Shout out to Steph, my girl. Shout out to Stephanie Wilkinson, a great FOTM. If I ever did see one or meet one. She's great. There you go. So the name of this song is Love Is the Art. Love Is. And it's by Alana Biles.

Alana Miles. No, Alana Biles, her birth name. Whoa. Much like this gentleman here who changes his name. That's showbiz. That's showbiz. Your product placement. She was a big number in this town.

She was. Not like you. Alana Biles became Alana Miles? Correct. Alana Biles. B-Y-L-E-S? Born on Christmas Day. Wow.

You and I are Christian. He's not. She was born on Christmas Day. Praise be. Right here in Toronto. She's a real Torontonian. She's the daughter of William Douglas Biles, who is a pioneer in the Canadian broadcast industry. He was inducted into the Canadian Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame in 1997.

Mike, you'll probably be in there any year. Did Christopher Ward co-write this song? We'll get to that in a second. My apologies. This song went to number 16 in Canada. I didn't know this was a hit in the US. Number 19 in the US. News to me.

Yeah, of course. I was going to say Black Belt. Black label later. You know where this song was even a bigger hit? Australia went to number 12. Sometimes they latch on to Canadian stuff, I've noticed. Namely the Tea Party. And Sam Roberts.

Really? I think Sam Roberts is big in Australia. How about that? I think I got that news from Mr. Howard, the guy who produced it. Mark Howard. So Mike, we talk a lot about everything just intersecting and all this overlap. This is my favorite part of everything I do on Channel 8. But there's still a lot of facts.

I'll see something like this, I'll bleed. Why the fuck did we not know this? Shout out to Harv Glazer, co-director of Jack of All Trades. Watching the show right now. Texting me, love is. He loves this song, love is. Cam's blushing. Cam's blushing.

He's a big Harv guy. I want Harv to know that was a great movie. Harv's a good guy. Anyway. Should bring him on the show. So that was a good movie. You know it was a good TV. I can't say no to you.

You know that. For nine more weeks. If you've got room for his hair. You know it was a good TV show. The Kids of Degrassi Street. Yes. Yes. Now if you were watching that.

Was she on there? In 1984. 1984. You would have seen a young Lana Biles. Wow. I'm going to be sick, honestly. She played the role of an aspiring singer

and a single mother. Holy shit. Guys, take over the fucking show. I'm going to drop. Honestly. That's crazy shit, bro. Just hold on. Hold on.

A few more fun facts. There's more? How did we not know that? I don't know. Cancel tomorrow's episode. I'm going to dig it up when I do that weekend tweet about the show. Can you drop this in tomorrow's episode? Just reference this off the cuff.

Well, our Elena Miles deep dive. Yes, Biles, sorry. Elena Biles. We've talked about this before. This was revealed first time. Sorry, Mike. It was actually on the Erica M podcast that Jeannie Becker suggests that Elena Miles was supposed to be the original host of fashion television.

Wow. How did Eric M. scoop me on that? I don't know. That's bullshit. Through the relationship with Christopher Ward. Fuck that relationship. And this is accurate because Rosie Gray Teo took that fact,

put it on Alana Miles' Wikipedia page. It's still there. It got approved. I don't know what to say except I'm jealous Erica got that scoop. It's wild. Does Erica know what to say, except I'm jealous Erica got that scoop. It's wild. Does Erica know what type of show yours is, Mike? Erica's been on my show.

Was she the one that didn't know that it was like an hour? I lost track of it all. It's possible. Actually, I'll say this. She actually put me on blast on Twitter the other day. Oh, yeah, that's right. I remember this now. Because of a lack of verification for some medical. How is it your fault? She seems day. I remember this now. Lack of verification.

How is it your fault? She seems to think I... Do you know his fucking title? Head of Communications for Twitter in Canada. Yeah, I would put him on Blast as well. I clearly make the rules. Anyway. Can he get Michael Eisenstein to hit me up? Did you read?

Somebody here, it's VP of Sales. He says, Sloan follows Michael Eisenstein on Twitter, as do non-FOTM Jeff Blair and Dave Foley's ex-girlfriend, Amy Mann. Wow, Amy Mann. That's a full circle moment. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. So Amy Mann, like Boston.

How can we stop this in August 27th? I think this might actually be his cousin. Like just based on that. Yeah. Wait, what do you... That's a clue. What's the clue? Well, because you got some Toronto,

but you still got the Boston pockets. Yeah. And Dave Foley, Toronto. Like, I don't know. But it's Amy Mann. It's not Dave Foley. It's Amy Mann. I know, but she's from Boston.

She was in till Tuesday. She went to Berkeley. I know, but she's from Boston. She was in Till Tuesday, which is another Boston band. She went to Berkeley. Yeah, this all Berkeley shit. Anyway, I do have some more fun facts. Mike, are you interested in a second Northern Lights force fit? Yes, please.

Wasn't that before her time? It's going to take some work to get there, but we'll get there. Okay. Jeff Blair? What's Jeff Blair doing following Michael Eisenstein? He fucking blocked me on Twitter, that son of a bitch. What Jeff Blair doing following Michael Eisenstein? He won't even... He fucking blocked me on Twitter, that son of a bitch. What's he doing following Michael Eisenstein?

Yeah, he knows. Michael Eisenstein's a great guitar player. Is he a ball... Do you think he's a pro ball player at any point? Mike... Mike... Oh, Cousin Mike? Fergie Oliver?

Are you talking about Cousin Mikey? Or Randy Macho Man Savage? Savage. What's he say? Michael? Michael? Okay, focus. Black Velvet.

And Eisenstein... Eisenstein follows Jeff Blair back. PPM sales is actually bringing the heat tonight. Always. That's why you do good stuff. Did you get a haircut recently? Yeah, you look good. I thought you looked very handsome. I would totally bury the bone with him.

Would you hit that? Yes. Mike, I sense you don't want to talk about Northern Lights. I'm ready. Do you want to get there? Okay. Speaking of Northern Lights sense you don't want to talk about Northern Lights. I'm ready. I'd like to hear about it. Do you want to get there? Okay. Speaking of Northern Lights, you might need to turn on your Northern Lights.

But not yet. Now this is still romantic setting. Okay. Please continue. Okay. I'm going to try this for a third time. Please don't interrupt. Oh my goodness.

Black Velvet. I think everyone knows, written by Christopher Ward. Okay? Sure. Co-written by someone named David Michael Tyson. Right. Now related to Mike Tyson.

Now this guy, David Tyson, also went on to write a bunch of songs for the first Amanda Marshall album. Yes, so did Christopher Ward. Yeah, that he co-wrote with someone named Dean McTaggart, who was in the band The Arrows. Right. Dean McTaggart, probably the most obscure member

of the Northern Lights. Okay? Wait. Pat Benatar, hit me with your best shot. Is that Dean McTaggart? Different arrows. Oh, right. Different arrows.

We fuck that up every time. Someone was going to die of COVID. I think they died. Wait, what about something to do, Joan Jett, something or other?

What are you thinking of? Joan Jett, I love rock and roll. Is that the arrows? Well, I was thinking of hit me with your best shot, but I love rock and roll. Okay.

I'm still with you. Okay. Just stay with you. Okay. Just stay with me. Now, we're going to stray from Lovis to Black Velvet. This is actually kind of interesting. So, Tyson and Ward... Harv just stopped watching. Yeah, he's soon as can.

Tyson and Ward were inducted into the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2021 for Black Velvet. I don't know why it took so long. Alana Miles was totally cut out of this proceedings to the extent that they accepted this on Globalist The Morning Show

with Carolyn McKenzie and Jeff MacArthur. And they brought in a couple of ringers to sing this on behalf of Alana Miles, which was Serena Ryder, followed by Zoom, and then FOTM, Dabnett Doyle. Oh my gosh. Yeah, they're good singers, but they're not Atlanta Miles.

Wow. Alana Biles. Now, Carolyn McKenzie, just quick, quick, quick. This is for Beck, actually. Maybe Joe from T.O. She went to Michael Power. Not an FOTM. She said no, but she went to my high school. She's one year younger than me and went to my high school. She's a pretty big deal. I think Carolyn McKenzie. Yeah, why would you say no to the great Toronto Mike who came to your high school? Okay, one year younger than me and went to my high school. She's a pretty big deal. I think Carolyn McKenzie. Yeah, like why would you say

no to the great Toronto Mike who came to your high school? Okay, final fun fact about Atlanta Miles. I'm a big fucking number in this team. You are. Big number. Okay, I'm curious if either, I don't think Stu would know this, Mike, maybe you knew this. Do you remember a song, Song Instead of a Kiss by Atlanta Miles?

Kind of. It was like a later one, right? It was from 1992. Did we hear her play that when we started at the Richmond Hill Country Club? Probably. It was her only number one single in Canada. And it was about her breakup. That was her number one song? Black Velvet must have went to number one.

Are you crazy? Get out of town. Get out of here with this. In Canada. Black Velvet was in number one in Canada? I'll check Wikipedia. Anyway, that song, what is this called? A Song Instead of a Kiss

was about her breakup with Robert Plant. Atlanta Biles dated Robert Plant? Did we know this? No. I did have an interesting conversation with Atlanta Biles once. I don't want to disclose too much.

Can I take your order? And she's like, well, what's on the soup today? We had a check because I was going to get her on. And I can tell you, I left the chat thinking... That was mean, but good. I don't even know if I should... I'll tell you after. I'll tell you after. I don't think it's fair to her to just kind of

blurt this out. Change her name for the sake of the story. Elena Biles. I will say, Elena fair to her to just kind of blurt this out. Okay, well, let's just... Don't forget. Change the name. Change her name for the sake of the story. I can't. It's too late for that. Alanna Biles. I will say Alanna Biles. I just will tell you, in the last five years, I've had a private conversation with Alanna Biles.

Wow. Because I was trying to get her on Toronto Mic, and we ended up deciding not to do it. And anyway, I'll tell you later. Anyway, she rocks and had some great songs, and I do genuinely like that song, Love Is. Wow. There's more breaking Eisenstein news. And there's some coming from me too. While I wait for this to come I just want to say that the brother

this is not Brother Bill this is not Neil Morrison this is the brother. The brother is saying that Black Velvet was Coach's jam on Fox's New Girl. That was Zooey Deschanel's show. I don't even know what that means. Well there's a show that was called New Girl. That was Zooey Deschanel's show. I don't even know what that means. Well, there's a show that was called New Girl,

and Black Velvet was Coach's jam on that show. That's all you need to know. I've got some breaking Eisenstein news. I'm going to read the VP of Sales news, and then we'll hear from you. Sure. Michael Eisenstein. This is the funniest fucking thing that this has ever become.

Toured with Our Lady Peace. Really? Playing keyboards and guitars. That blows my mind. So is this the letters of Cleo guy though? So Tiger might know him. And maybe we could get. For sure it's the letters of Cleo. And Tiger loves me. So maybe we could get. That's right. Yeah he doesn't love

the Fergie owners. Sorry what's this Michael Eisenstein? No I was. Okay what's your news there Steve? My mother says quote Oh my god a huge raccoon just climbed that fence. Okay. There's a huge raccoon just climbed that fence. There's a massive raccoon now walking on top of the fence right there. It's fine. It's fine because it's back there.

Just be aware. That's about Jana. I actually have to go back there to pee. Okay. Be careful. That fucking raccoon could attack. If it bites your dick off, you won't be able to go to the cottage anymore. That's like an appetizer. It's like, where's the fucking meal?

No, no. Cam's got to fucking trust me. He's a hungry man. Like a bull. Nothing we'll need for like two more weeks. That's a kielbasa. Friend of Gandalf. Breaking news.

My mother says, and I quote, he wouldn't, Michael Eisenstein, he wouldn't know you, but his dad was either married to Regina or Jenny. Wow. That's some bugging big news. My mom seems to know him. Okay. He hasn't tweeted. No, not for a while. What if President Trump, did you see this article about like how bad Trump's COVID was?

I just saw the headline. I hadn't clicked through yet. It's quite an interesting read for sure. I will definitely read that. He's active on Instagram. Wow, we're really blowing this fucking guy up. You better tell him I'm his cousin and that my mom misses him.

To close the Elena Miles thing... Flash Velvet was number one? Is that what you're going to say? Well, I didn't look it up. I'm just going to assume it was because it was number one on the Billboard Hot 100. And because we have CanCon rules, how could it not hit number one? I'll double check, but I believe it said it did not go to number one. So I had that album, that Atlanta Miles album, because Love Is, I think it was the first single, but it was big.

And I can tell you that Atlanta Miles had a single off that album called Kickstart my heart around the same time i was listening to dr feel good by motley crew and they had a single almost the same time called kickstart my heart very different songs but they were both called this was like in 93 when three different songs called creep were on the charts similar similar to that absolutely okay one final thing about black veil that i remember i don't know if you remember like it was a single in canada and did not get popular in the u.s till were on the charts? Similar to that, absolutely. Okay, one final thing about Black Veil that I remember. I don't know if you remember, like it was a single in Canada and did not get popular in the US until probably like nine months later.

Like there was definitely a gap. I never had a sense of when things got popular in the States. Like I had my local radio and I had my much music and that was it. So like I would find out later, oh, by the way,

this was a huge hit in the States and I'd be like, oh, interesting. I had no idea. But I never knew in real time what was a U.S. hit. I guess like unless you had Rolling Stone magazine or something. I guess if you went and you read the charts in Rolling Stone or something like that. So I couldn't tell you, like, you could tell me Love Is went to number one. Because to me, Love Is is a great song and so is Black Velvet.

But Black Velvet sounds more American, I guess. Breaking news. My mom says it may not be him. Oh, snap. Okay, do you want me to kick out my third jam? Please. I'm dedicating this to my beautiful- Are you getting laid tonight?

Is that why you're in such a hurry? Am I in a hurry? We're going pretty slow. Probably when I first got here. Oh, no, no. I just didn't want Biff naked. Oh, that's what that was. It's all time of that, right?

Was she naked, by the way? She was not naked. Okay. No. She might be listening. She did tweet the live.trod that's what that was. Was she naked, by the way? She was not naked. Okay. No. She might be listening because she did tweet the live.toronto mic.com. I'll tell you what.

Perfect. I would like to see Biff in person sometime. And like I said, Devin is here in Toronto filming, he's doing a movie here or something. I'll try to get Biff

to a TMLX. Wouldn't that be some kind of thing to like get all of us together and reenact that scene? Yeah. It's too bad Chris Penn died. Oh. But I will try to get Biff to come to reenact that scene? Yeah. It's too bad Chris Penn died. Oh.

But I will try to get Biff to come to a TMLX. Okay, so I was chatting with my daughter, who's almost 17, and we were talking about Women Who Rock, and she played a song for me and said that she's loving this song, and it's a woman who rocks, so I'm going to play that song.

I bet I know what this is. Olivia Rodrigo? I'd be shocked, but my daughter's big on this song, and it is a woman who rocks. Here we go. I don't fucking know if it's a lie or it's a fact I'm a little fake friend, don't sell your secrets for some cash Smile on my face, don't put your stick out on my back

If you ever see me, just get to running like a flash I know a boy just like you He's a snake just like you Such a fake just like you But I can see the truth Transparent soul I can see right through just so you know Transparent soul

I can see right through just so you know I don't fucking know what paradise is Who is this? Do either of you have a clue? This song is called Transparent Soul. Do either of you have a clue who This song is called Transparent Soul. Do either of you have a clue who's singing this song? Your daughter. The girl that sent in her demo last year. I'll give you a clue.

This person who's singing this song has very famous parents. Francis Bean Cobain. Is that who it is? That's not who it is. Zoe Kravitz. That's also a good guess. Wow. Okay.

Here's another clue. Lucy Walsh. My daughter, the aforementioned Michelle, has video of her meeting this person's father and brother. Oh. And that video is on my YouTube channel and has been viewed over 10 million times. You have a YouTube video with 10 million views on it? Are you serious?

I didn't qualify for monetizing because I didn't have enough hours of listening on my channel. I wrote about this recently. This is Willow Smith. This is Willow Smith? This is the same as my hair back and forth? Yes.

So that's a fun fact. She's really changed. Good for her. Her first hit when she was only nine years old was called Whip My Hair. And that cracked the top 10. This is her newest song. Wasn't her mom a rock star too? Her mom is Jada Pinkett Smith.

But she has a rock group, doesn't she? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, her mom is a rocker. I think that's true. Big rock music type of shit. I'm learning a lot here. Okay, so Willow Smith, Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's daughter. I think she's like 20 now.

The interesting thing is, you want to guess who's playing drums on that song we just listened to? Justin Bieber. Good guess. Travis Barker. Travis fucking Barker. He's on everything. Yes. From Blink-182.

He's literally everywhere now. Machine Gun Kelly and everywhere. Much love to Mark, who's battling cancer. Oh, I saw that. From Blink-182. Get well, Mark. Get well, Mark.

So this is literally, I listen to my daughter's playlist all the time because she's got it on. This is the rockiest. That song is the rockiest thing in my daughter's playlist all the time because she's got it on. This is the rockiest. That song is the rockiest thing in my daughter's playlist. Transparency. Transparency. Sounds like she's saying transparency.

So she thinks that that song rocks. I would say that's like a pop punk rock song. Kind of like Avril Lavigne. But I like that song. You know what, Mike? I mean, with all of the classic women who are going to get Hanson tonight, just remember that you played the Willow Smith song for your daughter. Happily played.

I was good. Your daughter isn't listening to the show, by the way. But I told her I'd play it, and I'm playing it because it's a good fucking jam. You're a better father. Transparent Soul is a good song. Mike, I have a question for you about women who rock. Do you like the band The Beaches? I know of them.

The Indie 88 favorite. But I don't know if I can name The Beaches? I know of them. The Indie 88 favorite. But I don't know if I can name a Beaches song. Have there been any Canadian bands you've gotten into in the last 10 years? I like Mono Whales. Jane's Party. Jane's Party, right. They showed up at the wrong day. They showed up.

I had a chat with their PR person today. It's like Kathleen Wynne in the basement. Kathleen Wynne came to the front door. I was at Humble and Fred Studios because Ralph was embarrassed to have Kathleen in my basement. Right. And Kathleen Wynne's at my front door and my wife was home sick or something. Yeah. This is way pre-COVID.

She was in a bathrobe. And she was in a bathrobe and politely told Kathleen Wynne that we were actually at a different location. And then Kathleen Wynne came there and we did it there. Kathleen Wynne then told me privately that she would have been totally happy to do it in my fucking basement. Yeah, she seems pretty chill. Yeah. I kind of like her.

She's a cool, cool. As long as the hydro was. She rocks. Yeah, she rocks. So, okay. What was the other thing? Okay, so. Mike Lyson's time.

The beaches. The beaches. The Jane's party came. Tyler, the VP of sales, booked Jane's party and fucked up the dates, to be quite frank with you. Yeah. And I was in the middle of a Jules LeBlanc conversation. He got a good haircut. And these four guys came down the stairs.

Monica let them in. I don't know what she was doing home that day either. But she let them in thinking, like, okay, these guys said they're here for a deficit. I've seen browser scenes that start like that. And these four good-looking younger men come down the stairs. And I had no idea who they were. I had no idea. I'm going to get Jane's party back on in this backyard here.

Okay. So now the floor belongs to Stu Stone, who will set up his penultimate jam. Oh, yeah. You wanted CanCon. Yeah, this is CanCon. You asked for CanCon. We had a lot of miles, I guess. A lot of miles.

But I went with something a little more contemporary. But although, looking back, it's actually not that contemporary. Not that, Rhys. Lana Biles. But I went with something a little more contemporary. But although, looking back, it's actually not that contemporary. It's not like mine. By the way, I think I set the record for most recent jam. Well, it's a horrible pick. No, that was a good song. It's a good song.

Honestly, you didn't like the song? I like it. When Aretha Franklin's not getting played and Tina Turner's not getting played. She doesn't write her own stuff, though. Willow wrote that, I think. I like Willow. Willow. You want some Cam Con? I like the movie Willow.

You know who I like better than Willow? Who? Hit the post. Talk it up, Stu. I've been lying to keep you from this pain. Talk it up, Stu. But it's over now I'm so, so sorry Sorry. Very Canadian of her.

Please don't hate me It's actually a pretty good song. Yeah, I know. Who is this? I saw her at Edge Fest, too. This was her big jam. Who is it? We'll get there.

Wait for it. Wait for it. I haven't kicked in yet. Sounds like Radiohead's Street Spirit. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know who this is. Fucking rocks.

That's that. That's a pretty good song. Yeah. I think this song rocks. Yeah, good choice. Fifi Dobson. Bye-bye, boyfriend. Bye-bye, Mon Cowboy.

She should have been a bigger deal than she ultimately became, I guess. Because Fifi, when she came out with this song, it seemed like the world was her oyster. You know, this was such a different thing, you know. 102.1 ate it up. And she was so, you know, she was cute and she could sing and she rocks and she has a good voice. Woman of color? Sure, she looks different than what you, you know, she's great. She checks every box to be a superstar in rock music and for some reason

it didn't really take off for her after this which is crazy because i remember being a fan of hers and being like wow she's great okay stew sorry to interrupt but i have a question for you sure so you were in la when this was happening was this big in the states this came out in 2004 so i guess maybe i heard it when i was visiting Toronto. Okay. It stuck with you, though. But she had a reputation. I think she was offered a record deal, and she turned down the deal, and I don't know. There was some business stuff there.

But let's get some lights in here. There we go. Bye-bye, boyfriend. There is some funny... There is some fun facts here, guys. I mean, her voice sounds real good on this. Yeah. So this is co-written. She's no Willow,

but she's all right. Or produced by a gentleman named Jay Levine. Do you know who that is? I can guess. The handsome guy from that rock band,

Adam Levine's brother. No. Jay Levine was the bass player for the Philosopher Kings, along with Jarvis Church, whose name is obviously hilarious. I think

he went to Thornley, Jay Levine. Jay Levine, yeah, he did, probably. Bass player for the Philosopher Kings. How about this? How about that? They created Prozac. Yes. Yeah, same guy. Strange disease and all that.

Yes. He also produced Fifi Dobson, Before Four. Oh, also went to Thornley. And nothing else that I really can tell you. Yeah, Prozac had a moment. He was nominated for a Juno Award for Producer of the Year

for his work with Before Four on their track Get Down. If you get down on me, I'll get down on you. You know that one? So does he. Now, how about this? How about this? Sucks to be you? That's another big Prozac.

Jay Levine's brother is John Levine. John Levine has worked with Dua Lipa, Drake, Alessia Cara, The Struts, Kesha, Aloe Blacc, Lil Mix, Becky G, Lil Mix, I don't know, Nelly Furtado, Avril Lavigne, who should be played on this show, Bono, Selena Gomez,

Bebe Rexha. I mean, this guy's a huge fucking smash. The Struts. From Toronto. So there you go. I mean, this guy, he was the keyboard player for the Philosopher Kings.

So the brothers, the Levine brothers were in the Philosopher Kings together. God bless. What a resume. That's,

you had me at Prozac. That's wild. That's wild. I feel like Fifi Dobson was supposed to be the next Avril. She should have been. Sort of like in the next wave. Something happened with her. You're right. I feel like Fifi Dobson was supposed to be the next Avril. She should have been. Sort of like in the next wave.

Something happened with her. You're right. There was something with her record company. There was some politics where she was being sort of. But didn't they want her to become like a pop act or something? I don't know what happened, but she. Because she never did another rock song like that. It didn't really happen for her the way that you would think.

Like she seems like a can't miss prospect if that demo comes across your desk. I think of the aforementioned Amanda Marshall. And Amanda Marshall, her projectory, Birmingham, and there were a few. She had a few big hits. But she didn't have no bye-bye boyfriend. I think she had bigger hits than Fifi Dobson. But Fifi Dobson's song sounds like a pop rock hit.

No, this isn't rock. This is more like, but really, Amanda Marshall's projectory was she was going to be like fucking Mariah Carey or something. Projectory or projection? What did I say? Projectory. Okay.

It sounded like me. So let's just, much like Biff Naked. That Dean Taggart. Do you know Biff Naked is really a Beth? Beth Naked? It's wild that she's now married to a Kiss fanatic. Oh, there you go. Biff, or sorry, much like Biff Naked,

Fifi Dobson has found herself in front of the camera as an acteur. And she has appeared in many, many shows. I can see that. Are you ready for this, guys? She was on a show called The Listener, a show called Winging It, a show called Hellcats, a show called Hellcats, a show called True Jackson

VP, a show called American Dreams, which is a big American show where she played Tina Turner. Used to see on MTV. I sort of remember that show. It was like the Wonder Years. She was a fucking voice in Paw Patrol, the movie.

Are you ready for this? Spinmaster. In the episode Summertime, the movie. Whoa. And are you ready for this? Spinmaster. Spinmaster, that's what it is. In the episode Summertime Part 1, she was on Degrassi, The Next Generation. Of course she was. You will hear a deep dive of that episode. Of Next Generation. Between me and Bob's basement.

I actually don't acknowledge The Next Generation. It was a great show. I'm sure it was. I did have a guy on it from Daniel Kixey. Oh, Goldsby. Who did have a guy on it from... Yeah, Daniel Kixie. Oh, Goldsby. Who did I have? Goldsby. Jake Goldsby.

He was good on that show. Hey, there's a comment here from Jokeroo. Jokeroo! He was in Teen Wolf with the What You Looking At Dick Knows shirt.

Wait, Jokeroo was in Teen Wolf? No, I just... Who are we talking about? I lost track because I loved that t-shirt in Teen Wolf.

Like, the guy in Teen Wolf, he's looking for his weed and then the wolf can smell it because he's got super wolf smell and he finds his pot or whatever. I didn't get any weed. I've got to watch Teen Wolf again as an adult and get those jokes. That's the one you'd get

the most. But what the hell Because Breakfast Club is another movie like that. Who is in Teen Wolf with what you look at that Dick Nose shirt? How is that relevant to what we're talking about? Did you know about all the drug stuff in Breakfast Club when you were a kid watching it? Because I didn't. The brother is linking to a...

I never saw it. What? What did you not see? The Breakfast Club. Oh, yeah. I loved it. Loved it. He's never...

One of these years. Wait, did you know that there was all these drug things in that movie? Because when I was a kid, I didn't know. But obviously, as an adult, I do. I was never good at picking up the drug references. But they were literally smoking weed in the movie and, like, dancing around. Here's how bad I was, kid, I didn't know, but obviously as an adult, I do. I was never good at picking up the drug references. But they were literally smoking weed in the movie and like dancing around. Here's how bad I was on that front. Okay, this is how bad I was.

The Crocodile Dundee. Do you remember Crocodile Dundee? Sure. That's not a knife. It is a knife. He puts his head in a bowl or whatever. Like there's some drugs in there. Oh, yeah.

He's like doing coke. I missed that scene completely when I first saw it. I completely didn't understand the reference to... I also remember the wife or the girlfriend was so casual. They were like, oh, just a bit of coke. What happened to her? She was married to the guy. She was married to Paul Hogan.

Good day, mate. Good day, mate. So anyway, just to go back to Fifi Dobson real quick before Cam kicks out his final jam. The brother links to an interesting CBC article, which I don't have time to read right now, Phoebe Dobson real quick before I kick out my, before Cam kicks out his final jam. Donnie Gangaroo. The brother links to an interesting CBC article,

which I don't have time to read right now, but it talks about basically how black pop artists like Phoebe Dobson had a tough time in the music industry.

She might have been sort of a victim of like the inherent systemic racism of the industry. I mean, that's pretty fucked up because I totally

agree with Stu. Like, she literally checked every box. Like, why's pretty fucked up because I totally agree with Stu. She literally checked every box. Why was this not... And I saw her at Edgefest and she was very good. Yeah. And I feel like it could have been crossover. It could have been on Edge 102. It could have been on the pop charts. So often when you're wondering what happened to that artist,

there's a reason like that. So the actor's name was Jerry Levine. Okay, so that's where it comes from. Not the same Jerry Levine, apparently, but Jerry Levine is the guy in Teen Wolf wearing the t-shirt.

How does he know that? What you looking at, dick nose? How does he know that? Jokeroo, confess. How did he know that? He did like Stu's comment

about brazzers. There's a brazzers comment that... Did, of course he does. Michael J. Fox, when he's turning in, he goes,

give me a beer. Did that happen? So he's at a convenience storeers comment. Of course he does. Michael J. Fox, when he's turning in, he goes, give me a beer. Did that happen? So he's at a convenience store. He goes, give me a keg of beer. And then he goes, and these. Scott, I don't know how to tell you this, but no wolf, no pot. The best is when Chubbs heaves up the brick or whatever. There's some great scenes.

That guy Chubbs was also in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. We've talked about this on the show. What a ridiculous movie. He was in Naked Gun. I know we probably don't see it. Herman's Head. He was in Herman's Head? That was, yeah?

Is he? Not for sale, Francis. Okay, so Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, Naked Gun, and Teen Wolf was quite the trifecta. Who was your Naked Gun? He was a guy, he was in Naked Gun, and Teen Wolf was quite the trifecta. What was your Naked Gun? He was a guy, like, he was in the Naked Gun, like in the stands at the ball game when the California Angels and Reggie Jackson were playing. He was there. Shout out to Weird Al Yankovic, who had a great cameo in the Naked Gun.

Okay, so let's get back on track. Oh, yeah, they're not here for you, Frank. Weird Al Yankovic is on that plane. Isn't that a great fucking cameo? Fucking love Weird Al so much. Okay, so. They're not here for you, Frank. I want to thank a few people.

I want to thank the good people at Ridley Funeral Home. If you guys need to use the hand sanitizer on the table, that's courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home. Oh, good. Just tremendous partners of the program. They fuel the real talk, and we love their support. If anyone has any questions at all about anything to do with saying goodbye to a loved one,

you've got to talk to the good people at Ridley Funeral Home, especially Brad Jones. He was at TMLX6. I'll bet you he's at TMLX7, which is coming up in mid-July. Actually, I know 1236 is here, but I want to get his opinion on the death of, who's the guy, Pat McAfee, or sorry, John McAfee, who died. Yeah, yesterday. What, like a weird, do you know? Super nutter.

Yeah, like really bizarre. Super nutter. And when he found out he was going to be extradited to the U.S. to be tried. He's 75 years old. Yeah. And they were looking for 30 years for that, more than just tax evasion, actually. There's a lot of stuff on there. You know, it sounds to me like he decided to just opt in. Yeah a life though yeah like really there's a movie to be made of that that

man for sure for sure i'm sure there is one there's a documentary already yeah okay yeah so stew's already on it okay i'm not doing it i'm saying it's out well you should you should do it get uh get to get her on the phone here. Okay, so thank you, Great Lakes. We've already been drinking our Great Lakes beer, Palma Pasta. Wonderful. We talked about Ridley Feederholm,

great partner. StickerU.com. Much love to them if you're getting your stickers or details. My mom wants to get some stickers. StickerU.com. Yeah.

Honestly. Only if they're vinyl stickers. Yeah, super fucking high quality. Oh, really? The guy who founded the Purple Onion in Yorkville. He's the father of Sticker U. Is he single?

I don't think so, but I'm not too sure. I don't think so. But he drives the Sticker Mobile, and he could deliver it to you if you live in the Toronto area. The GTA. Right. I don't know where you are. And Mimico Mike is ripping up the real estate scene.

Yeah, no doubt. Real estate love, not CA, to talk to Mike Majeski. And, of course, Palma Pasta. My mom loves the pasta. I don't know where you are And Mimico Mike is ripping up the real estate scene Yeah no doubt Realestatelove.ca To talk to Mike Majeski And of course Palma Pasta My mom loves the pasta Am I getting some spaghetti to take home today? Spaghetti? No actually They never send me

I never get spaghetti Spaghetti? I like spaghetti Do they do spaghetti? I'm sure they do everything Do you have lasagna for me? Is there lasagna? That was advertised

I can get you a lasagna I'll take one Of course Are of course. Are you ready, Cam Gordon, for your final dance? Yeah, I'll just introduce, you know, the topic is this. I don't even want him to play his song.

Do you want to know why? Because that just brings us closer to the end of this episode and there's only nine more to go. I'm going to be sad. Oh, and we should announce to the listenership right now. They can come live to the show.

No, that next week's episode is live on a Tuesday night. Why? That's right. Cam's decision. Well, Thursday's Canada Day. It's Canada Day. You're going to be celebrating with Dudu.

I'm not as comfortable this year of Canada Day. So on that note, we're kicking out. Am I even available on Tuesday? You accepted the meeting invite. I accept a lot of things. So it'll be 7.15 sharp on Tuesday? You accepted the meeting invite. I accept a lot of things. So it'll be 7.15 sharp on Tuesday night, live in this backyard. That's a lot of pressure.

I usually don't send my songs till Wednesday. Yeah, you do suck at that. We're kicking out jams by members of the... LGBTQ2. You're close. I've got this. You ready? Okay.

No, you're close. I've got this. You ready? Okay. 2SLGBTQ plus community. What's the 2S? Two souls. It's an indigenous... It's now part of the community.

Indigenous is being grouped in with... No, not being indigenous. They refer to it as two souls. Oh, I understand what you're saying. Two spirits. Yeah, it's like a moss. Is that a moss? I'm just curious.

So how does that work? Is that like songs by people who have come out of the closet? Well, people who identify as either gay, lesbian, queer, transgender, or bisexual. And Wikipedia is going to tell us that? This is the easiest thing you could do. In theory, you could kick out... You're telling me there's people from those categories that are in the entertainment industry?

Musicians like Elton John, for example. Why are you burying the lead? I heard he's gay. Freddie Mercury. I heard he's in that community. Well, there goes my first two picks. Demi Lovato just announced she's non-binary. That's perfect.

She could be an option. She's completely a great pick. Let's stop, guys. Those are all my picks. There's some good ones. Carol Pope would be a good option, actually. So there's lots of good options there. We're going to kick out our favorite jams from the community

and celebrate Pride Month while we're still in Pride Month. But for the rest of today, Women Who Rock and Mike, this one actually doesn't fit because this is more technically Girls Who Rock because I feel like everyone in this band was teenagers when this song was recorded. Not quite a girl, not yet a woman.

Is that what Britney said? I think I know what this is going to be. But this does rock, this song. Yeah. I was wondering if we were going to hear them. Can't stay at home, can't stay at school. Old folks say you're pulling a fool. Down the street, I'm the girl next door.

I'm the fox you've been waiting for Hello, daddy Hello, mom I'm your ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch Cherry bomb Hello, world I'm your royal girl I'm your ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch

Cherry bomb Donates, love, and straights out to Yeah, so, uh, what list of girls who rock would be complete without the Runaways? I thought this was also a good pick because we'll get also, we'll get a little Joan Jett, a little Alita Ford in their great song, Cherry Bomb. Absolutely. I'm glad Joan Jett is getting recognized and not being Hanson. Sort of like a Barracuda-ish kind of song, too.

Speaking of getting Hanson. Yeah. Well, I feel like we've heard a lot of Hart, though. Like, we've heard Hart a few times. This song came out in 1976. Who's playing the guitar? Lita Ford. Lita Ford?

She plays like that? Yeah. Well, I feel like this was, at least in the early days, a bit of a, not a studio band, but maybe had some assists. Like Toto is back there? Might have had some help. I've had some help. This song, I consider this a pretty well-known song.

Wasn't really a big smash. Only went to 106. See, Letters to Cleo is the most successful woman at rock that we've played. Yeah. Anyway, the members of the runways, again, Joan Jett, Lita Ford, Cherry Curry, and Sandy West. Who's your favorite member?

I need to get some entire sentences out before I'm cut out. Stuart, I'm muting your microphone. Who's your favorite member? I think you have to recognize Joan Jett because of the success she had post-Runaways. But Lita Ford had those. Did you ever watch that show Roller Games? No.

Do you know the show? Yeah. Roller Games with like, what was it, like the Iceman and Skinny Minnie? It came out the same time as American Gladiator. I feel like they were like back to back. Lita Ford was the musical guest. Okay. Wow.

That adds up. Also did the duet with Ozzy Osbourne. Yes. Closeita Ford was the musical guest. That adds up. Also did the duet with Ozzy Osbourne. Close my eyes forever. She's a big fucking deal. I feel like Leigh-Anne was sort of trying to be. Bad reputation is a big number. She's a big number in this team. Are we familiar with Kim Fowley?

Kim Fowley. Is that from Sonic Youth? No. Remind us about Kim. Kim Fowley. Is that from Sonic Youth? No, that's my cousin. Kim Fowley was almost like a Malcolm McLaren type character, kind of curated bands. It was sort of on the, had just sort of woven his way through the music industry in the 70s.

He's done all sorts of stuff in the 70s. He put together his band, The Runaways. Kim is a guy. Is a guy, yeah. When I told my mom, we're walking to the Sam Smith Park, we're going to see Kim Mitchell, my mom said, I love her.

Which is something she never said about you, so that's really sad. But that's a true story. Hey, that's a cool sprinkler. Yeah, Kim Fowley, I'll just say bad dude. I'm going to miss you guys. I'm going to miss you guys. Not to the same extent that Phil Spector's a bad dude,

but a lot of stuff, a lot of accusations, including some of the members of the Runaways about... Oh, no. ...underage advances and other things, all sorts of stuff over the years. Is it raining? I don't think so. We lost Kim Fowley in 2014.

I didn't know this. Do you guys know the artist Ariel Pink at all? I know Ariel Winter. Yes, she's from Modern Family. Yeah. I don't know Ariel Pink off the top of my head. I am worried a bit about the rain, but I'm going to just keep my eye on it. Okay, let's park Ariel Pink.

Anyway, Kim Fowley from his deathbed helped write the Ariel Pink album that came out in 2014, Pom Pom. It's actually a great album. I'd recommend it. Cherry bomb! Yeah, orchestration on this album was from none other than Rodney Bingenheimer. Rodney on the rock. Seems like a name that that guy would have dropped. Yeah.

What a number. I'm just going to rush through these because of the rain. Oh, it's coming down now. There was a movie about the runaways. It won't last very long. Did you guys see that? Well, I don't want to fuck up my thousands of dollars of gear here. At least you guys got an umbrella there.

But what movie was that? How do you hold an umbrella? I think it was just called... Oh, there's another camera over there. Oh, that's fine. It's waterproof. It was just called The Runaways, okay? That moth came out of nowhere.

Just like... Cherry bomb! Okay, I'm going to park the fun facts I had some really good ones Let's hear them I'll be quiet Let's move on We beg of you

I'm going to lose all this gear I refuse to play another song You're going to feel guilty When I can't afford to replace this stuff Let's move on Come on Read the fucking fun facts He used to play another song until he finishes them. You're going to feel guilty when I can't afford to replace this stuff. Let's move on. No, come on. Come on. Seriously.

Read the fucking fun facts, okay? Or at least say them. Whose show is this? Yeah. Okay. Is this cam-miked? No. Okay.

No one would listen to that. Is Toronto cammed? Come on. I just thought I'm going to do this and Stu's going to start talking. Cam soup. Okay. So the movie The Runaways, okay? Right.

Do we know... This fucking moth is enormous. Okay. Keep going. No, I'm listening. Okay, that's it. No, come on. That moth was attacking me. Come on.

Come on. Okay. I'm going to try this once more, and then I'm out. Okay. Floria Sigambondi. Do we know who this is? Are we allowed to answer that you just said don't talk no no no okay famous toronto-based music director also directed the runaways movie but before that she did a lot of music videos including a lot of our edge fest favorites

she directed the following videos okay okay uh the river by the Tea Party. Oh, yeah. The Birdman. Our Lady Peace. And I thought Biff Naked was in this video, but I don't think she is. Anna's a Speed Freak by Pure. No, she's in a Moist video. Was that? Okay. How does that song go? Anna was a Speed Freak.

Was that on a big shiny tunes I think that's my pure the same group that sang denial yeah I think denial is on big shiny tunes I'm gonna have to download that song this floria also went on to direct videos from Marilyn Manson namely the beautiful people David

Bjork and in more recent days perfume genius Dua Lipa, that's a big guy. And also someone, I almost chose this artist's former band, Alice Glass. Do you know who that is? She was the vocalist for Crystal Castles. Oh yes, of course. I was going to choose Not In Love.

Yeah, with Smith. Yeah, with Robert Smith. They cover Platinum Blonde. I like that song. Anyway, Runaways I thought were, again, bullseye for this. And great fun facts, Cam. We appreciate you. Okay, thank you. Now, I didn't want this artist to be Hanson. So,

without a doubt, I believe we can refer to this woman as the godmother of punk. Is that title available? Here we go. I think so. Just added two songs to my library. Here we go. I think so. Just added two songs to my library. Hey.

Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine. Mild new Pile of thieves Wild cord On my sleeve Thick Heart of stone My sins my own They belong to me

Me People say beware But I don't care The words are just rules and regulations to me May I walk and I run And I look so proud I'm all in this here osmophilia

Where anything's allowed I go to this here party I just get bored And you know You got the wind, you see party just get bored you got the window seats with your gun hoping on the parking meter leaning on the parking

meter oh she looks so good oh she looks so fine and I got this crazy feeling and then I'm gonna, ah, ah, make her mine Oh, I put my spell on her Here she comes, walking down the street

Here she comes, going through my door Here she comes, crawling up my stair Here she comes, walks into the hall In a pure chest and, oh, she looks so good. Oh, she looks so fine. And I got this crazy feeling that I'm gonna make my mind and I hear this knocking at my door. Sorry, I don't want to bring it down. Okay, sorry. I love this song. Okay.

Do you guys know what you're listening to? Sure. It's kind of an epic song. Like a real big build-up. And it sounds good. I know. I think I don't want to bring it down because it's building. I might have to bring it back.

Okay. Patti Smith, Gloria from her 1975 album Horses. This song, of course, well, I'll do some mind blows that aren't so mind blowing in a moment but this is not a Patti Smith original I feel like her other hit was not an original either that's a Bruce Springsteen song

yeah so Tina Turner no but Patti Smith yes got it got it alright oh this is not her song either. No, that's...

Yeah, I got more coming. All right. So I'll give you some fun... Some fun... The original. No, I'm going to blow your mind with that in a minute, although it won't be a big mind blow,

but I will blow your mind with that in a moment. The animals? So, okay. So she was married, by the way, to Fred Sonic Smith from MC5. Right. And their son... So their son, this is Patti Smith and Fred Sonic Smith from MC5. And their son,

this is Patti Smith and Fred Sonic Smith's son, went on to marry Meg White of the White Stripes. That's a good mind blow. Also, without Fred Sonic Smith, you wouldn't have the name of your music. Long running, kick out the

jams. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. So her biggest hit, Patti Smith, you mentioned this. Bigger than I. Yeah. And that's a Bruce Springsteen song.

But Bruce, this is the story I was reading. 10,000 Maniacs, that's Patti Smith? Who's that? That's 10,000 Maniacs. Yeah, she's the singer from 10,000 Maniacs?

No. But listen, Bruce Springsteen, hold on, Springsteen wrote the song Because the Night, and he was never satisfied with Because the Night. And he never thought he was going to finish this thing. So apparently Jimmy Iovine brought Patti Smith

the last recording that Bruce Springsteen did. This is 1977. I'd argue it's... Patti Smith added her... I'm right, right? Yeah. Yeah, thank you. Smith added her own lyrics

and then recorded it for her album Easter. And that was her biggest hit fucking single. But you're wondering this song, Gloria, that's not a fucking Patti Smith song.

So here, I'll bring down Patti here if you don't mind and play... Give me a moment here. Blow me up. Yeah, this I know. This is Van Morrison. Van fucking Morrison.

But in his band, his band Them. What was his band called? Them. So we'll give it a moment here, but this was the B-side of Baby Please Don't Go. If you can imagine. Yeah, this is good, but it's 2020 anti-vax. So he's, 1964 is when this song Gloria comes out.

And of course we heard the Patti Smith cover. She kept the title and the chorus, but she did a lot of stuff as you heard to kind of change it up. Her spoken word intro, Jesus died for somebody's sins, but she did a lot of stuff as you heard to kind of change it up. Spoken word intro, Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not for mine. I feel like Gloria was sort of like, hey Joe, it's like a garage

rock staple. What's the band that sings this? Them. It's called Them? T-H-E-M. That's a good point. They say this is like one of the first songs you learn on guitar. Yeah. It's got that simple kind of a Louie Louie. Yeah, garage rock kind of thing. So I'll bring down Van Morrison

and just play another little. So we're speaking of, of course, of Patti Smith. So this is a little mind blow for you. Oh, yeah. Talk about like songs

you don't really hear. Yeah. Not anymore. So Patti Smith was a huge inspiration for Michael Stipe of R.E.M. And, oh, it's a great jam. I always kind of like this song.

Michael Stipe said that it was listening to horses that he decided he was going to start a band. That was like listening to that album by Patti Smith is what convinced Michael Stipe to start a band. And then the rest is history. Thank God he did. Thank God. So 1998, uh, this is Ebo the letter and Smith is,

uh, background vocals on this. I'm going to wait till Patti shows up and then I'm going to bring it down and give the mic to Stu Stone. I feel like it reminds me of Wendell Clark. Wow. There she is. This is Patty. Hey! I'll take you over There she is.

This is Patty. Hey! You know who I'd mix up with Patty Smith? Patty Smythe. Yes. Dick Smythe. Dick Smythe's wife.

Or Stephanie Smythe. To a lesser degree, Stephanie Smythe, yeah. What did Patty Smythe, like she did a duet with Don Henley. So who's in 10,000 Maniacs

Manchester Natalie Merchant Natalie Merchant That's the word I like Manchester Merchant Melissa Manchez Right Shout out to Michael Stipe

But I would say Patti Smythe Is a big fucking deal And if you're gonna do Women Who Rock I mean a few people Got hand-tuned Yeah

A lot of great Notables Got hand-tuned A lot of great acts of great bands. A few notables got hand-tuned. A lot of great acts. I mean, we didn't hear Alanis Morissette. We didn't hear Meredith Brooks.

Bitch. We didn't hear Joan Osborne. We didn't hear What If God Was One Of Us. Joan Osborne. We didn't hear Jefferson Starship.

Right. Or Airplane. Or any of the Jefferson incarnations. What about Bonnie Tyler? Does she rock? We didn't hear Jefferson Starship or Airplane or any of the Jefferson incarnations. What about Bonnie Tyler? Does she rock? We didn't hear Bonnie Tyler. Ravishing was kicked out recently.

We didn't hear Carly Simon. We didn't hear Melissa Manchester. Linda Ronstadt. Linda Ronstadt, who was responsible for the Eagles that we learned at one point. Joan Baez. Does she rock? We didn't hear any, what do you call that lady with the, put up a parking lot? I thought, yes, Joni Mitchell, who's thankfully I saw her recently looking good.

But I opened this episode with a cold open there off the top. With Janis Joplin, who you don't even like. With Janis Joplin, who I absolutely adore. See, I pay attention when you talk. See, a band that I kind of hate but would have been a good choice. The Breeders wasn't on here. I was going to say Evan Nesson. I kicked out Cannonball already and I didn't want to kick out another Breeders. Was that Evan Nesson? Yeah, yeah, bring me back to life. Sure, Amy Lee. Like, they were a good choice. The Breeders wasn't on here. I was going to say Evanescent. I kicked out Cannonball already and I didn't want to kick out another Breeders.

Was that Evanescent? Yeah, yeah. Amy Lee. They were a big deal. What happened to them? They're still kind of doing something. You know, that style of music. We are going to kick out at some point. That would be good in the new metal episode. New metal has come in. Wake me up! Wake me up!

For sure. So bad. Stu, you ready for your final jam? I am. And I'm conflicted by this one, Mike, because I really do feel that this is a woman who rocks. But I... Admittedly, this is my least favorite of the songs that this woman is responsible for,

but it had the most natural fitting... Emphasis on natural. Pun will be intended. You'll get the pun later, but natural pick for me because of the fun facts and the mind blows that I could present because I did invent the mind blow.

Product placement. So yeah, this is a woman that rocks who was not Hanson's and you can thank me. And this is sort of my layup for the win. Come with DeAndre Eden. Oh yeah, that was great. Let's go up to now.

Soft touch. Chris Paul's back. Back on Goldust Woman. Take your silver spoon. Dig your grave. Hey! Very mystical. Shout out to John Gallagher. Why? He's got a great story of her

blowing coke off at her asshole or something. There's a Gallagher and Gross story there for Stevie Nicks. Sounds about right. Stevie Nicks and John Gallagher. Good party. gross story there for stevie sounds about right stevie nicks and john gallagher good good party do you want to know why this is... Did she make you cry? Make you break down? Shadow your illusions of love? And is it over now?

Do you know how? Pick up the pieces and go home Beautiful. Now listen. You could make an argument that she is the most successful woman who's ever rocked Based on your criteria, Michael I mean, she writes her own songs The album that this is on, Fleetwood Mac Rumors Is one of the greatest selling records of all time

All the big songs written by Stevie Nicks We're listening to right now, Fleetwood Mac Gold Dust Woman is the name of the song All the big songs written by Stevie Nicks. We're listening to right now Fleetwood Mac. Gold Dust Woman is the name of the song. I figured I would play it because it has woman in the title. And it has Stevie Nicks who is a powerhouse of an entertainer. And I got to be honest, you know, I was into much like you guys in the 90s. I was listening to like, you know, grunge music and like Soul Asylum.

I was listening to hip hop music like Tag Team. But I was listening to like hip hop and rock and, you know, pop popular music and Fleetwood Mac. While I appreciated them, they weren't really they weren't my favorite band by any means. But again, this is one of those bands that I've revisited recently in the last year or so and i absolutely love them and i'm not ashamed to say it they're really it's they're really good the albums are so sonically well produced the musicianship in the band is phenomenal and you've got stevie nicks you've got mick fleetwood you've got uh what is it christine mcveigh right sure yeah you've got uh john mcveigh and you've got l what is it, Christine McVeigh, right? Sure, yeah. You've got John McVeigh. And you've got Lindsey Buckingham, who's arguably one of the best male vocalists of the era.

I put him up there with Kenny Loggins. Stevie Nicks is a phenomenal rock woman. She's fucking great. Are you reading? No, I'm not reading that. You wrote that? Free freestyle. That's a freestyle.

You're going to write something. Do you guys know Patti Smythe is married to John McEnroe? Do you know? Whoa. That fact comes from Dan Jay

on the live.torontomike.com feed. What we're listening to right now, the recording of this song was a take chosen for the release of the 1977 album Rumors, 77, the year Cam was born. This take was recorded at 4 o the release in the 1977 album Rumors 77 the year Cam was born

this take was recorded at 4 o'clock in the morning after a long night of attempts in the studio and just before and during the final take Stevie Nicks had wrapped her head with a black scarf veiling her senses

to tap memories and emotions so she wrapped her whole body. They're probably on drugs. Anyway, Gold Dust Woman. You know what gold dust is? You got it. Cocaine. What?

Hell of a drug. Hell of a drug. Get out of here. Hell of a drug. Shocking. Quote, everybody was doing a little bit, you know, but we never bought it or anything. It was just around. And I think I had a real serious flask of what this stuff could be, of what it could do to you.

And I really imagined that it could overtake everything, never thinking a million years that it would overtake me. I must have met a couple of people I thought did too much coke. And I must have been impressed by that because I made it into a whole story. Sorry, is this you talking? This is her. Is this her talking about John Gallagher? This is her talking about Johnny fucking Gallagher. John Fitzgerald Gallagher.

You ready for mind blow number one? Mike, what did I open up the show with? Oh, I thought you wanted me to play it. I'm going to try. You open it up with celebrity skin. Yeah. Let's get a mind blow going. It's nice. Open it up with Celebrity Skin. Yeah. Let's get a mind blow going. Let's get a mind blow going.

I like that distraction. So something very surprising about this. This is, of course, a hole. This was on the soundtrack of The Crow. Remember The Crow? I think it was The Crow Part 2. Yeah, City of Angels. Oh, 2? The song is produced by...

This is surprising. Rick Ocasek. Oh. Who is responsible for, obviously, Weezer and the Cars and Not A Surf and a bunch of other stuff. This sounds a lot harder than stuff we're used to hearing from Rick Ocasek. There was something I wanted to say about Stevie Nicks. Oh, yeah. Let's get back to Stevie Nicks for a second.

She was married in 1983 to Kim Anderson, divorced in 1983. But that didn't work out. Shotgun marriage. She also obviously was famously girlfriend of Lindsey Buckingham because that's what Fleetwood Mac was like, this crazy swingers couple band, right? But this is going to blow your mind, Kim. She dated from 1977 to 78 Don Henley. Wow.

And then in 83 to 86, Joe Walsh. Wow. Two eagles Don Henley. Wow. And then in 83 to 86, Joe Walsh. Wow. Two eagles on her resume. Wow. And of course, this is Hole doing Gold Dust Woman. And of course, the final mind blow, which I dedicate to next week's episode of the Toronto Mike Show.

I was amazed that he did not come up. Although maybe he's like gender neutral. This is a good song. This is kind of an underrated theme. Gold dust. Of course, this is gold dust. And when I said earlier, the natural pick, of course, this is Gold Dust.

And when I said earlier, the natural pick, of course, the natural dust. So this is Gold Dust theme song. And that was the Toronto Mike episode 887. And that. It's not 87. Let's get it right here. And that. 872. And that.

Shout out to all the Gold Dust fans out there. Dust and Rhodes. This song rocks. Remember when Dust and Rhodes switched? Oh, I thought you started one more song. No, that was it. Okay, that is the last episode. Shout out to all the FOS's out there.

Cam, good to get you back. We. Shout out to all the FOSSSS's out there. Cam, good to get you back. We know you have to have some cottage time with MF, but still, we're glad you're back. Cam, you MF-er. Always. Literally. Has anyone ever said that before? No. That was the first? First time. I'll take credit. Okay. I'll accept.

Aren't you double vaxxed? No, Sunday. Sunday. And as I was reminded in the chat when I said I was double vaxxed? No, he just said. Oh, Sunday. Sunday. And as I was reminded in the chat when I said I was double vaxxed to Biff Naked, that it takes 14 days before you're covered. So I'm only, I'm not quite there. Homestretch. On Tuesday I'll be there. On Tuesday.

It's garbage time at the pandemic here. By the way, I got hit again with side effects really bad. Really? I was pretty fucked up for the Pandemic Friday we did last week. I'm kind of scared. You should be. You should be. Stu, what are those words I'm supposed to say?

Ah, that. You can hear the phlegm just moving around in there. He's double back, so it's a good drop. Shout out to Michael Eisenstein. And that. And that. Eisenstein. And that brings us to the end of our 870 second show. You can follow me on Twitter. I think I made in that popular because you were just in that in all these years. And no one gave a fuck.

And then I came up there and I was like, put, that. And then they kind of put it over. Yeah. It's going on the t-shirt right beside. A picture of me. No. Big number in this town. Likeness. I'm pulling that clip for the next time.

Hashtag product placement. You're a big number in this town. Hashtag big number is good. I like that. Big number. I'm going to start using that. Thank you, Mr. Twitter. You are a big number.

The end. Stu is at Stu Stone. Hey, baby. Cam is at Cam underscore Gordon. Hey. Correct. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. And that.

Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Sticker U is at Sticker U. Ridley Funeral Home, they're at Ridley FH. And Mimico Mike, he's not on Twitter. He's ripping up the real estate. He's on Instagram. Owned by Facebook, don't you know? At Majeski

Group Homes. See you all. Oh, tomorrow I have a special episode of Cam Gordon. Wait, are you coming back here for that? This will be a special Zoom episode. It's going to be wild. See you then. Hard hitting. And that.

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