Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Y108 Morning Grind: Toronto Mike'd #546

Episode Date: November 21, 2019

Mike chats with Shawna, Chris Z and Jay Brody who are The Morning Grind on Y108.

Welcome to episode 546 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, StickerU.com, Ryan Master from KW Realty, Capadia LLP CPAss and Ridley Funeral Homes. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week, the Y108 Morning Grind, Shauna, Chris Zed.

What's up, buddy? And welcome back to the show, Jay Brody. Thank you for having us. Since we, before we pressed record, I was showing off all the buttons I never use because I think they're so corny. But you guys seem to like the applause. So you got applause. We really do. We very rarely get it.

So it's nice to hear it in any form, really. Okay, if somebody, let's say a Humber College student, writes you guys and says, hey, can I sit in on a morning grind recording? You guys say yes and let them sit in? Yeah. Yeah, we had... Send pictures first and then, yeah. You know, if you needed pictures before you got on the air at Y108, Jay Brody would not be on that.

Definitely not. You're damn right, sir. I sent a glamour shot, mostly photoshopped. Yeah, he doesn't have abs. I hired the people at Pixar to make me look like a better person and it cost me a lot of money. I'll bet.

Now, just before I even proceed, I got to ask Chris about the beard. Did you just let it go? Is there maintenance involved? Can I know? We we're a hamilton based show so this is the norm there actually i'm looking at you like you got two heads buddy what's this clean shaving stuff oh it's been cleaner it's been cleaner i can't grow a good thick beard this is the sad truth this is the real talk that people tune in for i see i'm looking at even yours i can't do that even okay i got like bald spots and it comes in did you guys ever see the cheers episode when uh they try to grow beards and cliff claven yeah it doesn't like to me it's like matt

sundin right when the during the playoff runs like it just doesn't work is there beard envy among men like you look at chris and you're just like oh oh, wow. Oh, my God, yeah. Are you kidding me? I almost wanted to shut the door on his face and tell him you're not a fan. No, big time beard envy. I didn't know. Okay. I don't even like drinking the Canuck Pale Ale from Great Lakes Beer. Yeah, where is this? Is this right here?

Let's see. One of these beers looks shockingly like Chris. Okay. Exactly like that guy. Okay, so there he is. Yeah, look at that. All right, let me see. Shauna dropped my coffee on the way in.

Can I have this? That is yours, yeah. Okay, so I'll do this off the top since we're doing it now anyway. This six-pack of fresh craft beer from Great Lakes, this is yours, Chris. That's yours? Oh, thank you so much. Shauna, you get six cans of GLB. Sweet, thank you very much.

And Jay, you got one last time you were on, right? Yes. How was it? It lasted 45 seconds As soon as I was out the door It was all over my belly It was very nice Good to know You pounded it and got in his car

Just shotgunned him Shotgunned him in Mike's backyard And off we go Okay, backyard Then I have to step in and say We don't condone drinking and driving No, of course not Mike slept in his backyard Also also i took a quick nap we did this in the summer last time so you already cracked it open now i feel bad because i would have uh got one from the fridge for you

chris but that's okay you're it's not it's okay for you again from hamilton more beer kind of the norm it's kind of cold down here right uh right you're cold it's fine i have my coat on and i got to leave my boots on. I'm okay. And Mike, is it my coffee or Chris's coffee that spilled in your car when you were driving here from the Hammer? Well, both. It might have been yours and I just used the drop-in as an excuse to crack a beer. That might have happened, but hey.

Or was Chris and I going to share a coffee? Don't worry about it. I heard we were going down into a basement and getting intimate. I didn't even know it was a podcast. Shauna feeds his coffee baby bird style every morning. Oh, my God. Regurgitation. Remember Big Top Peewee?

Does anybody get this reference? And he was feeding those birds. It's what we do in the morning. It keeps us together. It keeps the show close. And I can say this now. Big Top Peewee sucked. Peewee's Big Adventure was amazing. I know. My kids just saw It keeps the show close. And I can say this now. Big Top Pee-Wee sucked. Pee-Wee's big adventure was amazing.

I know. My kids just saw it for the first time. It was one of the best parenting experiences to share with them. Pee-Wee's real big adventure was in that movie theater, though. I think today that would be like a blip. Like nobody would even think. Today that would be much less of a scandal. He was in a porn theater, though.

Yeah, it was a porn theater. It wasn't like he was watching The Lion King. He was in a porn theater, though. Yeah, it was a porn theater. It wasn't like he was watching The Lion King. He was in a normal place. I don't care where you are. You keep your wang in your pants if you're in public. Even in a porn theater. Okay, first of all,

are there still porn theaters even in Hamilton? Even in a basement, Chris. Put it away, okay? I can see it. They can only see me waist up, right? Oh, God.

Oh, God. All right, so a moment for the Periscopers that they're not going to see me because I wanted to get oh god all right so a moment for the periscopers that they're not gonna see me because i wanted to get you three on the camera which means no me because i am you know an amateur shop here when it comes to video so i only have the one so i'm gonna this is me you can't see mike's wangs out as well and all the headphones again are in use so uh if you do go back to watch this on periscope you won't hear any of the music because i will play some music

and you will not hear it. But screw you guys. You should listen to the podcast. That's what you should do. All right. I want to get to know each of you and I have a bunch of questions. But does any of you know why?

Did you hear Mike Babcock was fired? Is this something that you guys would talk about on the morning grind? We discussed it today. Yeah. We talked about it yesterday too about how he would be fired before Christmas 100%. I thought 100% fired before Christmas.

In fact, there was a road trip maybe or a back-to-back maybe like two weeks ago, and I told my buddy Hebsey. Hebsey used to work in Hamilton. He was on CHCH for a long time. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, just even pretend you know. That's exactly what I did. Oh, man, Hebsey, me and him go way back.

I told him if we got swept, I said, I thought Babcock was gone a couple of weeks ago. So no one's surprised by this. We'll see what happens, but I think you have to give Dubas that needed a chance to bring in his guy. He inherited Babcock. I think that started the season move when they benched Spezza against his former team.

Dick move. Such a dick move. Right? Probably his last NHL season. So you took away his first home game against his old team on what might be his last NHL season? He flew in 30 people apparently too. So they're there.

That's to me, that's a grade A dick move because it doesn't matter who, to me, that's a good sign that Babcock did not really give a shit about, you know, making his players feel. Sean, are you a sports fan? Yeah, sure.

Because I see in your eyes here. You see me zoning out, looking around. No, it's fine. I'm a baseball fan more than anything. She likes the Red Sox. So?

Yeah. I do. Can I ask, I'm curious because you're young. Usually it's old people who pick a non-Toronto-based team because the Blue Jays only showed up in 1977. So you're not... No, that's true.

I'm not that old. You're right. So why the Red Sox? Well, I was a Blue Jays fan, and then my new husband and I went down to Boston. How many husbands do you have? Don't say new husband. My current husband. Yeah, there you go. How many husbands do you have? Don't say my current husband. Yeah,

there you go. Cause there will be more. There will be more. I say I have the same problem. I'm on wife number two. And then people are like, it's not wife number two. Cause that suggests there's going to be a three and a four.

How many times have you been married? No, only two times twice. Okay. That's fine. Anyone else here been married? It's engaged a couple of times. That didn't work out.

Yeah. Same girl. We kept going and going. I don engaged a couple times. What, like eight? Yeah, same girl. We kept going and going. I don't think that counts. No, it doesn't count. I buy diamonds in bulk. It's okay. It's one of our sponsors now because Jay bought so many. Bulk diamonds.

So, Shawna, you said you have children. Is it multiple children? Two boys, five, and 11. Are they with husband one or two? One's with one and and ones with the other. Good old Hamilton girl I am. I can double that. I did two with one and two with the other.

Oh, you're crazy. Well, it's harder for the moms, I think. Like you have to carry these kids. That's true. I feel it's tougher for you. See, but as someone with no kids, I look at Shauna as being crazy. You have double the amount of kids.

You're double the crazy, sir. I am crazy. Didn have double the amount of kids. You're double the crazy, sir. I am crazy. Didn't Jay tell you? Yeah, Mike bikes 40 kilometers a day regardless. What? I just spoke. I just mentioned like the Humber College student because I just spoke to Humber College students

up in the North Campus and I biked there and it was like freezing rain and I biked there. Doesn't matter to Mike. You're a madman. I'm going to see the Watchmen on Saturday night. Killer band, by the way. Yes, and great people too uh love the watchman i've never actually got to meet him in person but uh i'm hoping to i'll where's that show happening the danforth music hall okay so you know where you are right now yeah you don't yeah so i'll be biking to that

saturday and that's uh east of young i'm gonna ride a bike outside what do you do with your bike once you get there? I lock it up. Yeah, it's that easy? See, Hamilton, if you rode your bike to a concert in Hamilton, you might have a frame or one wheel left, depending where you locked it up. Well, I have a good kryptonite lock.

Like, I'm careful, and I lock it up. And I've been lucky so far. I try to bike everywhere, and I've never had a bike stolen. As a teenager, a bike was lifted from the garage. Okay. But that's, you know, I haven't been a teenager in a while,

so I've been pretty lucky. That's pretty good. Yeah. And I bike, like I'll bike to, I'll bike to the dome or BMO field, wherever I'm going. And normally these things I go to are west of young street because that's

where everything's happening. But the Danforth music hall that's east of young. So yeah. Long ride. So maybe I'm crazy here. Okay. So first, I got to give condolences to Jay. Yeah, my dog died.

We talked about it off air last. Did we talk? That was off air. Yeah. Yeah. It's all turning into one big show for me today. We just finished our morning show. Why not put that on air?

Why not, Jay? Why not put that on air? That sounds like a significant life story there. Yeah, we did. You did yesterday. Yeah, we did. You did yesterday. Yeah, we talked about it. I gave, I guess, a toast to the dog. I had a little Pekingese, flat-faced Yoda-looking dog.

How old? 13 years old. Wow. He's old for a dog. He had a good life. His heart went on him, and he was a great, just a gentleman. I'm sorry, bud. So my condolences. Thank you. Yeah, he's a great, just a gentleman. I'm sorry, bud. So my condolences.

Thank you. Yeah, he's a good boy. And if dogs listen to podcasts in heaven, they're listening to this one. I actually hope they're doing other stuff. Dog heaven, sniffing each other's butts. Having sweet dog parties. Eating, whatever.

I was told from movies that all dogs go to heaven. Yeah, don't watch that movie if your dog dies, by the way. It's awful. All the songs are about your dog. Why would you watch that after your dog died? Disney Plus. Don't watch any dog movie ever because they're terribly sad. I thought I would feel better because I was very sad and all dogs go to heaven.

I'm like, well, this will make me feel better. Every song in the film. This will be a gem of a movie. Is about how the dog's dead and you'll never have your dog again. It's all. Why don't you watch engagement movies next? So now your dog died. Now that we're in a solemn mood or whatever.

Did you guys play this jam this morning on the morning grind? We did not. Why the hell not? Who's in charge over there? Listen, if we can get Spirit of the West Home for a Rest on air, I'll play it every goddamn day. And I'm curious, again, you're in an independent safe space here,

but I need to know, can't you call an audible on the line of scrimmage and play something that might not necessarily be on your, like, playlist because of an event that happened in the world? Like, couldn't you play a song like this just today because John Mann passed away yesterday? Listen, it's one of those things. We could, right? Let me ask you a question. Yeah.

Could you have dinner tonight with your family in your underwear? You could. Am I in my house? You're in your house, but it's a family dinner. Oh, yeah. You're tonight with your family in your underwear you could am i in my house you're in your house but it's a family dinner oh yeah show up in your underwear you could but you'd have a lot of questions to answer afterwards you have to explain it some people be real happy some people hate it you know and it might just not be worth the whole thing uh the whole process no i appreciate the uh i'm just curious because i do understand in 2019 how uh things are kind of pre-programmed and loaded up. And it's not like the back when like David Marsden was running the Spirit of Radio where like the DJs had like play with what they played and what they pulled off the shelf and played or whatever. But you'd think like a rock station like yours could play a Spirit of the West song and just say, this is for Johnny. Yeah, listen, we definitely be,

in these situations, we definitely could. But it's one of those things where, listen, he definitely deserves it. He deserves an honorable mention. Jay's sweating over there. See, I've got him sweating over there. The tough questions came early. The problem is with a guy like this,

I feel like to really honor him, you kind of have to do it at a bar or with a party or with a ton of friends because that's when this song seems to mean the most to people. Good save there. He's good. Yeah, and that's why you're on the team. More than just a beautiful beard, right? Well done.

Now, we're here now. We got our great league, so let's do it here. Does anybody, like was anyone here a fan of Spirit of the West or John Mann? Because he was only 57, died yesterday. He had Alzheimer's, a terrible disease. A lot of people don't realize the age, too. Like, everyone thinks it's an old person's disease. So I think that's the awareness that it will bring, too, right?

And a lot of people don't realize you die from it. Exactly. Like, people think you just forget people's names and you're, you become demented. Is that demented? I guess. I don't know. I realized it's the word demented,

but yeah, people don't realize that it actually shortens your life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's sad. So I was reading today because of the story that they're working on a

vaccine for Alzheimer's and it seems that they might be close. So hopefully no one has to suffer through that again. I'm old enough to tell you we've been close to a lot of vaccines. I've been reading about all these diseases being eradicated and yet here they are. But we'll tip a Great Lakes beer to John Mann. And I know why Chris has got the Gordy Levesque

because he looks like Gordy Levesque. It's exactly it. It's like Chris is, I guess it's narcissism. He's drinking his own beer, essentially. And that is how he stands most mornings when I come in. He holds an axe over the board. If you're not doing lunges, are you even working? It's very intimidating.

And you, here, let me do this. Since we just talked about John Mann and sadly the passing of Jay's beloved... What was the name of the dog again? His name was Brassy. He was a Pekingese. Get a flat-faced dog. It'll make your family better. Brass? Brass, yeah. Peeks. Brass? Brass was his name, yeah.

I thought maybe it was like Brassy, but it's Brass. Well, he called him Brassy, yeah. But his Brass was like, you know, the vet. Because he was a thug, like Brass Knuckles. He's a badass dog. Don't let me sick the Brass out of you. He was named after one of the characters in that CSI show. Oh.

There's a Brass in one of those. I thought it was Luke O' Brassy. He sleeps with the fishes. I like that better. It's good. The Godfather. Hey, I think I found my new co-host here. Do you live in Hamilton? I live kind of closer

to here, to be honest. Is that right? Like Mississauga? Close? Milton-ish? It's not that close. It's closer to Hamilton. I don't know. It may be, yeah. You can't bike there, though, Mike. I don't know about that. It depends on how much time I have, to be honest. Don't test him.

Yeah, that's exactly right. I want to invite people, and yourselves as well, okay? Ridley Funeral Home, proud sponsor of this program, they're hosting Holidays in Hope Candlelight Service. This is on December 4th at 7 p.m. at the Assembly Hall, and it's their annual free memorial service in honor of those loved ones who have passed away and cannot be with us this holiday season. So if you're remembering your dog, you could

come out to this and you might find some peace. Will they bury my dog? Can I bring my dog? We're still trying to figure out after. Come on! I'm helping him out. He's plugging. It's a plug. It's fine. I'm pretty sure humans only

at Ridley Funeral Home, they're great people though. Where is your dog right now? In the freezer? He's in. It's a plug. It's fine. I'm pretty sure humans only at Ruby Funeral Home. They're great people, though. But where is your dog right now? In the freezer? He's in the freezer right now. Is he really? Yeah, we're trying. Not my freezer. There's a vet.

Okay. I was going to say. A professional freezer. Yes. I've never had a small dog before. All my dogs have been like 110 plus. It's a small dog, but also we're trying to get it. Okay.

We really ruined Mike's plug. No, it's fine. We got the invitation out, and please continue. The thing is we want to get it cremated by himself. There's two types of pet cremation. They'll, like, do a group cremation. Oh. Yeah, so when you get your dog cremated, a lot of times it's, like, 15 dogs in there.

You know they're still doing that, right, unless you watch. Okay. You're paying the individual fee, but they're throwing them in together. I get it. It got sad. Do you have another song on that soundboard there, Mike? A little more Spirit of the West here.

You know what? I loved 90s CanCon acts. This is my jam. You're all too young to remember the 90s. It was the decade before the 2000s. I was my jam. 90s CanCon. You're all too young to remember the 90s. It was the decade before the 2000s. I was born in the 90s. Yeah, I bet.

I know, Jay, you're a 90s. You were born in the 90s too. No, 85. I'm older than you, I'm sure. I'm certain you're not older than me. Do you want to do this game? Yo, let's do this. Do you see my white hair? Yes. Where's your white hair? I'm covered up with blonde hair. How old are you?

Can I guess? Sure. Oh, this is going to get bad. This is dangerous, so I have to take what I think it is and subtract five years. Thank you. At least a tad. Oh, now I know. Now I'm just going to add five back and see how big a dick you are. Okay, I'm not going to do that real talk here. You are 41 years old.

I'll be 44 in February. I'm older than you. Oh, all right. So I'm correct on that front here. That makes me feel good. It's all that biking. It never happens. Skin's so tight.

This is like the first time there's an older person than Sean in the room. It's actually true. That's crazy. That is true. I thought maybe Jay's hat was older than you. That's a new one. That's a newer one one I get confused there alright so just a little again

just for the podcast listeners a little Spear of the West Venice is Sinking a jam I heard I would see it all the time they played this video like the mess out of it on Much Music back in the day but yeah I have a so whenever like thankfully rarely happens I mean we lost Gord Downie I still have him on the wall behind you

you don't even know. Yeah. That's an awesome picture, by the way. That's for the Cheney Wenjack Foundation. But 90s can-con bands, like, now I'm in a world where I'm, like, friends with a bunch of them, and I'll be, like, I can chat with the guys from Lowest of the Low or the guys from The Watchmen, who I'll see on Saturday night. I didn't know John Mann personally.

He's a West Coast guy, and sadly he's been sick for a while now. But it just gets me when a 90s CanCon act dies. Yeah. Yeah. It's real sad. I think the tragically hip Gord Downie passing away, I don't think the country's recovered from that yet. I'd have to say.

I think people still feel that one. 100%. There's those. I think the real thing with gore downey and the tragically hip is you connected yourself to a lot of songs they had whether it was you playing hockey when you were a kid waking up early going to the beach going on road trips they had a song for everything and now when you try to go through those moments again and listen to the music and be like wow we're never gonna to have any more music from this guy he's never going to be able to contribute to our music scene again that's what gets really sad for canada because he was such a huge part of canadian

history and with that being said we have to start investing in our musicians now our canadian musicians that are 100 that are locally based that are not discovered yet that aren't signed uh system has to be created so we can get more Canadian voices telling Canadian stories out and further the identity of this country. Isn't that your job? Aren't you on Y108? Listen, I would love that to be our job,

and we do that where we can, but we don't really have a say as far as what is played on the station. Those decisions are made by people higher up the pay grade, where we can, but we don't really have a say as far as what is played on the station. And those decisions are made by people higher up the pay grade, and that's, it is what it is. They didn't hire us to do a show because of our musical knowledge or experience. And that's just the reality of every morning show in, you know, I'd say the city pretty much. No one's really a great musical expert as far as stuff. These guys are personal buddies of ours.

Okay, this is where I'm going here. So I tweeted that the morning grind. By the way, who named your show? We all sat down and named it. Yeah. I like it. Like I even said to my wife last night, I'm like, I'm the morning grind.

Like I dig it. Like that's a good name. So props to whoever named that. Thanks, dude. So I tweeted that you guys were coming on. And who's got a question for the morning grind on Y108? Hamilton's best rock. Can I say that?

I don't know. Sure, go ahead. And the monster truck. They said, how are you able to survive when they go on tour? Difficult. So your personal friend, tell me about your relationship with, by the way, this jam, tell Monster Truck,

because I talk like Monster Truck is one guy. Tell Monster Truck that this jam, and I know they have a lot of great stuff, but this particular jam kicks ass. That's amazing. Is it the best thing they ever did? Be honest with me. Righteous Smoke is up there. I love The Lion. Yeah, The Lion is fantastic too. But this song is such a banger and kind of came out of nowhere. We needed music that sounded like this

and they nailed it on the head at the right time. And I think that's why this song is so much bigger. Just a little taste here. Just to mess with the Periscopers who hear nothing right now. Sweet mountain woman I'm gonna take you there

I'm gonna give you everything you want And you're never gonna wanna leave No Sweet mountain woman Excellent Okay, so cool It was written about me Little known fact

Sweet mountain drama Didn't have the same ring to it I'd believe that I'd believe that Do So when there's a new Let's say there's a Hamilton band Hamilton produces some great music, right?

Incredible music. Big time. So when can you add that to a Y108 playlist? Like, do they have to? I just want to know, like, is it like these are up and coming guys. They sound great. Let's give them some exposure so we can find the next monster truck or whatever. Yeah, we do like new music previews and stuff like that

where we'll take local bands who aren't signed, don't have the reach that they need to get the radio play. We'll play them, ask the audience what they think. A lot of the bands coming out of Hamilton rock and know how to rock, so we don't really have a ton of problems with that. And we actually have a band coming in next week. Yeah, we have a bunch of bands that come through,

and we try to give them exposure and have them on the show. We had Century Surfers on who were on your show. Wait, time out, time out. Conflict of interest here. Come on. Oh, he's pulling it. Well, listen, we've had them on. Listen, Roddy's a good friend of mine.

Listen, that song, what's the name of the song again? It's amazing, The Storm. The Storm's tremendous. And we had Saint Essonion on two weeks ago. You know, we have a lot of great bands. But at the end of the day, to be honest with you, Mike, we're just not music programmers. That's not what we are getting paid for.

That's not what they hired us for. We would love to do it. We'd love to do more of that stuff and get more bands in and take some of that stuff and get more bands in and uh and and take some of that on but that's just not what our uh what our show is for what we're about uh but we have great people that do it and uh great people that make sure that the music sounds great but oh here we go my boyfriend listen okay simmer down. You might have to leave the room. Shauna, that guy, if I may say, I'm a heterosexual man.

Thank you. Go ahead. But extremely attractive, right? Right. Because he's sat where you're sitting now. And I mean, Roddy's a good looking guy. Roddy Comer. Definitely. Oh, Roddy's the one I'm talking?

Oh, yeah. They're both. I know. I know. They're both good looking guys. Yeah, but the other one's way too pretty. Like, I got to be the prettier one. Shauna's a dirty, gritty old lady, I think is what she's trying to say.

Shauna's working on husband number three. That might be Max from the Arkells, though, because she's been pretty deep with that, too. Oh, wow. Yeah, interesting. Now, okay. I like Roddy very much. I seem to bump into him a lot. He's been on the show a couple couple times now because he came on with Jamie

Goodfriend? I'm not sure how to say that last name, but he's a good friend. Goodfriend. I was thinking, the dreamy one, I was thinking of Jamie. But, of course, Roddy's a good-looking guy and he keeps posting those bikini pics. Well, that's what it is.

It's him playing with himself on the beach. Okay, no, that's not what he's doing. No, that's what he's doing, Jay. It's a video of him playing ball and then he catches his own ball very like Tom Brady did, the same thing.

Yeah, you're right. He does play with himself on the beach. What do you mean? Balls. With balls. Okay, you're right. There you go.

He's at balls. We're going to get back to Roddy Colmer in a minute because there's a bit that Jay and Roddy did together and they've been on together on the show.

In fact, let me just say that to set the table here, that if you want to go back and hear more Jay Brody, so sadly there's no Shauna or Chris on this thing, but if you want to hear Jay Brody and Roddy Comer, because you guys were doing the Dumb Show. Yes, your 6M, the Dumb Show, and we were here for that, also the podcast. It was great.

And you also talked about why you were very open and honest. I like the real talk. You guys were great because you were very frank about why you left the Todd Shapiro show. Yes. It definitely came up on that episode. So what number is that? 344.

Oh, wow. He's got it right on lock. It's a great episode. Yeah. And what else did you guys talk about? We talked about, oh, yeah, we talked about Roddy working with Rebel Emergency, great band, and his solo efforts at the time. This is before Century Surfers.

And we talked about your work at Why Wanna Wait. So it's a nice, if you want to hear more, go to this episode. Did he say anything about me? No, I started as a weekend guy. That was when I was just doing Saturdays. I keep forgetting you were the same guy. Okay. Yeah.

I thought you left. Talk about giving people chances. So I will play a bit that you and Roddy put together that was played on the Howard Stern Show. Yes. Howard threw to this, and we've been making some songs for them, some parody music recently,

and this is the most recent one that aired. But first, I want to know about like how you guys meet each other. Okay.

So in this kind of, let's get the origin story for this iteration, the morning grind, you three people together. Like, so Shawnee, you're already there.

Yes. So you're like, almost nine years. Amazing. Yeah. Now, okay, tell me what you can

and I'll, you know, whatever you want to say, but like, what happened to the, your previous co-host? Oh, okay.

So, it was originally the Ben and Carrie show and then I joined the Ben and Carrie show. And if people don't remember, Ben and, Carrie's passed away.

Yes. Rest in peace, Carrie. He's a gem of a person. Shauna got that job via like a promotion or a contest here's the real deal shauna gets this job as a contest they fire the pd and hire a new pd at the time that new pd was supposed to come in and axe shauna but she actually did

so well that they're like i don't know let's just pay her peanuts and we're still getting paid peanuts that's the whole story at least if you come on this show not only are you going to get like, I don't know, let's just pay her peanuts. And we're still getting paid peanuts. That's pretty much true. At least if you come on this show, not only are you going to get beer, you get more things than beer. In fact, I'll do it really quickly here. I have in the freezer upstairs, I have three frozen lasagnas from Palma.

I'm so happy. Palma Pasta. Hey, shout outs to Palma Pasta. Can I do the plug? Give me the camera. I love that place so much to Poma Pasta. Can I do the plug? Never give me that. Go ahead. Give me the camera. I love that place so much. Poma Pasta. Yeah, go ahead.

Poma Pasta, great pasta, cannolis. You can go to their kitchen. You can enjoy it. The lasagna is incredible. Listen, I've made my own mozzarella cheese and my own lasagnas. It takes forever. Just go to Poma Pasta. It's like my Nonna.

She lives in every lasagna. It's the spirit of an Italian Nonna. It tastes like Jay's Nonna. No, it doesn't. It's her heart. That place is fantastic. Why don't you end that with the only thing in my freezer is my dog. Oh, God damn. Jay, let's get back. There is room for this

lasagna in your freezer. It's not all dog. I will move the dog. It's not all dog. Oh, God. He's in a professional freezer, by the way. All right, I have an invitation for all three of you here. Two of you I'm meeting for the first time.

But on December 7th, this is a Saturday. It's coming up, actually. I'm starting to get nervous. Oh, my goodness. At Palmas Kitchen, which is this brand new facility near Burn burnham thorpe and mavis okay near there it is called palmas kitchen 10 000 square feet retail space hot table fantastic but again on that saturday december 7th at noon until 3 p.m the fifth toronto mic listener experience is taking place and if any of you could show up I would be so happy to see you there and there's a we'll be recording an episode you could jump on

a mic and say hi to everybody awesome and that's not too you're a Milton guy that's super close oh now it's super close yeah because now we're at Mavis and Bownthorpe fair enough so uh yeah and Shauna Where do you live In the Hammer Where do you live in Yeah just outside Just near Dundas She lives in the Hammer The people who live in Dundas

Are a part of Hamilton I know It's true They're literally one street Away from Main Street Yeah but Dundas In Dundas People try to say

We live in Dundas It's not Hamilton Dundas in Greensville It's not Hamilton It's Dundas We're like the mountain In Ancaster people They hold the S too long Dundas. Dundas and Greensville. It's not Hamilton. It's Dundas. We're like the mountain in Ancaster, people. They hold the S too long.

Dundas. And this is the city of waterfalls, right? Am I right? Okay. There's a lot of waterfalls. Yeah, but don't talk about it. We're having a major problem. Tell me. What's going on?

We're having way too many tourists. Yeah, we're trying to start a campaign called Keep Hamilton a Secret, where we're just not going to talk about how great hamilton is because too many people are coming there and the real problem is is the the tourists who want to see the waterfall wear flip-flops and they jump fences and they hike up mountains come over i'm one of these guys i have i have gone purposefully just to uh see waterfalls but I'll walk part of the Bruce Trail

and then I kind of know like and sometimes waterfalls are private property but the owners of the private property have some kind of a some kind of an agreement with the people

like where they allow us to go that's changing though they're starting to build fences then because people are taking advantage of having sex on their lawns

having sex on their lawns and falling to their doom. During the day or at night? Yeah, all the time. All the time. They want to take sexy pictures with waterfalls in the background. And they're going ham. I did not know about this.

Okay. Has anyone here had sex at one of those waterfalls? I've done it in a bathtub one time, but that's about it. It looked like a waterfall. Definitely. He created the waterfall yeah that was it natural evolution okay so anyway i you have beautiful waterfalls i just want to give some love are you guys cfl fans and we're gonna get back to the ben and carrie and get back there

in a second but because you guys are in a great cup uh this sunday yes we are and we're in a bit of a radio war with a friend of ours tj connors. Connors, who used to be at Hits, decided to go to, I believe the station is Chitty FM? Chitty FM in Winnipeg? Chitty, yeah. I'm Italian, so C-I-T-I, Chitty. Playing the chittiest music around. So he's with City FM out in Winnipeg,

and his morning show, Rina, T.J., and and Turnbull in the morning grind have a wager going. And we've been doing hits all week, kind of making fun of each other in a lighthearted way and also putting a bet on the game. So if the Ticats win, which they will, they have to, one of their jocks has to go out to a busy intersection in Winnipeg with a sign, a part of the Oskiwiwi chant, eat them raw in Thai cats colors,

and do the Oskiwiwi into traffic. They're a friendlier show than us because all they wanted us to do was, like, drink a shot of honeydill. There's a Winnipeg sauce that they put on everything. That's it? That's it, yeah. I would do that anyway. I would have done that.

I'm going to do, either way, Monday morning, I'm drinking honeydew. Yeah. Win or lose. Where are you going to get it? I'll make it.

Yeah? I can make honeydew. I'm not eating anything you make, so the cats better win, that's for sure. I'll make it with my hands. Honeydew will get you high, I'll tell you that.

TJ, now TJ is an FOTM, like yourself, Jay, and now like Sean and Chris as well Now, TJ is an FOTM like yourself, Jay. And now like Sean and Chris as well. Do you know what FOTM means? No idea. No. Friend of Toronto Mike.

Oh, great. Oh, wow. TJ's been here. You know, his dad was a big deal in this market. Yeah, huge. In fact, TJ does a great Scruff Connors imitation. And I think half of that episode was him pretending to be his dad so I could interview Scruff. Oh, that's fantastic.

He's got a lot of friends in radio in Toronto and in Ontario and stuff and anyone I meet. Over the last week, I was telling people at SiriusXM, like, hey, we're doing this thing with TJ and everyone's got great stories about TJ. Yeah, he's a nice guy. And I'm happy we get to kind of do this little bit of cross promo with them and have people hear

about TJ in this city. It's hard to get all scrappy when the three people on the show are like some of the nicest people you've ever talked to. Yeah, we're happy. I'm happy he's out of our market

and we don't have to compete with TJ anymore. Anymore, but yeah. Because he puts on all the show. Okay, speaking of that, another FOTM left the market and he talked to you about that shortly there's a little teaser but the tj thing okay so is this station a city in uh in winnipeg is this station owned by chorus no it's

a rogers station yeah so you're allowed to do this cross uh pollination i need to know i'll tell i can tell you my ration like the rationale and this is on me so i don't want to throw anyone else under the bus but totally we're in competition with hits hits fm what first of all i believe that this industry is too small it's it's it's a very small industry and it's very cutthroat and very competitive and good people need to stick together and i think tj is a great jock and a great dj and so i i'd rather work with you know have a fun bit with someone who is a good person and is good at what they do so tj's ultimately great and like you said no one in hamilton yes and also he's on he used to be on hits which is a direct competitor and i think people people that are in Hamilton, listening to that would go,

would want to tune in to hear TJ at a different station on our show. And that's why, you know, we cross those lines. Also, I think it's way easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. So you don't ask and you apologize later. Yeah, we do it like that. So like, yeah, that was kind of brought up.

They're with a different company, but at the end of the day they're not in market well here's my here's my question two things one from their perspective there is no rogers rock station around here like so there's no worries there exactly but on the other side is there a chorus rock station in winnipeg i don't know i don't know i know here i and i i'm glad that you guys are doing this because i'm trying i would like more of this to be honest like i don't know but I know. Here, I'm glad that you guys are doing this because I'm trying, I would like more of this to be honest. I don't know, but this is such a small business and I'm not going to make a full career out of this

bad-mouthing other companies because everyone ends up one place and finishes somewhere else. And I really think as radio personalities fighting new technology and automation and all that stuff that you know there needs to be less of that competition because at the end of the day uh you know we are all on the same side and a rising tide float lifts all boats yeah yeah listen we're

up against a lot we're not just against other radio stations we're up against disney plus and people watching disney plus in traffic. And let's be real. Disney plus is pretty sweet. It's pretty awesome. Podcasts and all that stuff. We're, you know,

like making ourselves, uh, as a community stronger and better off, I think will support us. I'm very, who's your program director right now? Uh, our program director is Tammy Cole.

Um, okay. Tammy, if you're listening and Rick, Tammy, and Rick Lee, Rick Lee director is Tammy Cole. Okay, Tammy, if you're listening. And Rick Lee. Tammy, if you're listening. And Rick Lee. Rick Lee is our new easily-assisted program director. Who's picking the music?

I believe the music comes, is a gentleman by the name of Brad Gibb. Comes out of London. So he likes the music, and he works also in London. He does it for a few stations, and one of those stations is ours. And yeah, we are-

I actually like your music. So I do, I like your music. I was listening to Y108 and a Pearl Jam song came on. I don't know which one was it. I can't remember which one it was. I don't even know if it was the Animal or not. A Pearl Jam tune came on and I was thinking

Jay's on that show and I know Jay because he came over with Roddy. I should get that whole damn show in here. That's what it came to be. But I would say to these people picking the music, you could have played Home for a Rest today. That's all I'm going to say. I'll leave it now. It's off of my app.

But you could have played Home for a Rest today because Canada lost a great musician. And we will definitely play tomorrow. Do you promise? Will you dedicate it to me? I can't dedicate it to you. I'll do it. I don't care.

Toronto Mike, you got it. You can dedicate it to me. Okay, so Ben and Kerry, for those who don't care. Toronto Mike, you got it. You can dedicate it to me. Okay, so Ben and Kerry, for those who don't remember Ben and Kerry in Toronto, for example, they were the guys who came out of the giant egg. And what I mean is there was a Jack FM morning show with Ben and Kerry, and the ad was memorable because a giant egg cracked open, and they slid out with the yolk or something.

This was a big deal. Kerry at the time had to be pushing like 360, 380 bills, right? So he came out of that egg hard. Right. That's the only way to describe it. He came out hard. He came and go big or go home. You're damn right, sir.

Sadly, yeah, Carrie's gone. So Ben and Shauna, is that the morning show? So then, yeah, so then it was after Carrie left the show, it was Ben and Shauna and then Chris morning show so then yeah so then it was um after carrie left the show it was ben shauna and then chris was the producer yeah and then uh yeah and i don't know how many years that that was on maybe five or six yeah i've been with the company for eight years now almost nine and then i got my producing gig probably two to three years after. And then your name was on the show towards the end. Yeah, so it became Ben, Sean, and Chris. Yeah. Oh, cool.

Yeah, get your name on the show. That's important. If anyone's in radio out there, get your name on the show. Yep. Although your show's called The Morning Grind. Then get your name off the show. Morning Grind with Sean and Chris and Jay. And yeah, we're a team.

So there's a small difference there's a bunch of shows out there where it's like um you know the like toronto mike and he'll have a co-host for 20 years and the guy will just be in the photo in the back and and you don't get to yeah you know he never gets his name on the show we're all we're all part of it so. So the show's named after a team. And if there wasn't the three of us there, it wouldn't be the Morning Grind anymore. The Morning Grind is us three. So if Chris shaves his beard and decides to become a dancer, then we're going to have to figure something out and rename the show. I have to shave my beard soon.

I'm going to a wedding, Jay. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I watched you dance. It's fantastic. I'm like Fergie and an angel if they had a baby. Yeah, exactly. Which Fergie?

Like early Fergie who was really hurting? The one that would like collapse on stage and stuff? That one. I think he's thinking the royal one or the lady one. Right, because the ex-husband of the royal one is in the news lately. I don't know if you read the news. Okay, so we'll move on to other things. Now, one of the most popular questions I got was what happened to Ben and Shauna. So can we hear Shauna tell us all why Ben was kicked off the morning show?

Well, there was, I won't get into details, but there was a trip involved uh through work where winners and announcers went on a trip and then uh behavior that was bad got punished and so that's what happened and you can sort of i think a lot of people can connect the dots if you follow along with the show and stuff that was posted around that time okay because specifically like uh one question came in and you can, I won't, you can reveal any detail you want,

but it's, it was, uh, about a year ago, Shauna stopped, I guess it was, when was it more than a year ago? A year and a half. Actually it'd be two years in the spring.

Two years. Shauna stopped broadcasting halfway through the Mexico trip and Ben McVie was fired. So you, we should just, uh, clear up some things. I wasn't sick. I wasn't hung over.

I wasn't sent home for wasn't hungover. I wasn't sent home for behavior that I did. And I think that's something that I always wanted to sort of clear up. Well, this is your chance. Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah, I was sent home for, you know, personal reasons in terms of what took place and for safety reasons. And then, and then, you know, company did its own investigation after that. And they made their decision. Okay. So they chose the, I guess, chorus, I guess, chose to part ways with Ben McVie.

And that meant it was Shauna and Chris. And were you like looking for a third part? Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did the Cougar and Cub show for a while, which was just the two of us. Yeah. Back in the day when my hair was sweeter and I was so much younger. Okay, you're a cougar because you like younger men.

Sure, yeah. And I started when I was 21 with them. I see, and cubs are young. You're still a cub. If I get older, you get older, but you still stay younger. Does that make any sense? It's my Matthew McConaughey moment. How does Jay, how does he weasel his way into the mix here?

Well, yeah, I'd love to hear the story, actually. So when... I was just being a weasel. I don't know how I got in. When Jay was the weekend guy, we would have remotes and basically where you would, an announcer would go to a company or a party or something going on and just help promote it. And Jay would go do these videos at the Canadian Warplane Museum

where they had, what was it called, a raptor museum or something. And basically what that is is just a bunch of giant birds. So there's like snow owls. There was hawks. There was all this. And he's looking at dead bird skeletons. And the stuff that was coming out of this guy's mouth was absolutely amazing and hilarious. And at the time, we were looking for someone else.

And we just went to our boss and we're like, listen, you have to give this guy a shot. Just put him in with us. Give him one day. They ended up giving us two weeks weeks maybe even longer at the time because we sat in we had instant chemistry and people started loving it i figured that like that's why i was gonna make sure like like if you and shauna are like oil and water or whatever you can't be the morning grind right like did you guys have to dig each other yeah we have to dig at each other but we also have to get along and stuff. And that's basically what happened.

I've got to give shout-outs to Wayne Williams, the PD that hired me for the job. Wayne Skies. Wayne took a chance on me at a time where my stock was low, and I really appreciate that. So he had the foresight to see that and put us together and help facilitate that. I think just, you know, getting to, we would do these crossovers. Like sometimes I would fill in for the afternoon guy

and we would kind of cross over shows. And there was a spark there when that happened. Yeah, immediately. Like we immediately have this, I don't know, the three of us can, we just anticipate what the other person's going to say or how to get them going. I don't know. Chemistry. How much talk do you get to do on the morning grind?

As much as we want, which is always too much in our program director's eyes. We do about four breaks, four breaks an hour, about four to seven minutes each. And then probably four splitters, four ID mentions, live mentions, whatever you want to call it. Cool. Now, with the music you play, let's say you're going to play a monster truck jam. That's preloaded, right? Like in software or whatever? Yeah.

Like, yeah. Can you ever call an audible to skip one because you want to talk? Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Or put in a shorter song.

When you hear blur song too, the jocks are messing with the music. We dropped five or six minutes already and it's probably around 30. If you're a band looking to break into the music industry, the best thing you could do is put together a real kick-ass two-minute song because we either need a two-minute song because we need to cut time or we need a nine-minute song because one of us needs to use the washer. Exactly. Those two things are very crucial and lacking, especially in CanCon. That's very true. Hell yeah, man. You give us a killer CanCon two-minute song,

I guarantee you I'll play it every day. Yes, that's very true. Hell yeah, man. You give us a killer CanCon two-minute song, I guarantee you I'll play it every day. Yes. That's very true. It's important. I've heard this, and you mentioned Blur, but that, of course, is not CanCon. So Sloan? Welcome to this weekend.

Yeah. The good in everyone. Two minutes and eight seconds. Yeah, we're playing a ton. You'll hear it before the top of the hour a lot. Yeah, if you're listening to like around 55 to 57, coming out of commercials, we need some time or we need less time.

It's all about Sloan. Or the odds. I love the odds. Which odds song is nice and short? Do you remember? Off the top of my head? What was it? Was it Heterosexual Man?

Or is that like three, three and a half? I loved Heterosexual Man because the kids in the hall are in the video. And I was the biggest kids in the hall fan. Amazing. Unbelievable. And just them being in the video is hilarious in general. Great song. Yeah, they're West Coast too.

This makes my bladder work because this means I have time to do a quick pee before the news. Honestly, my body's responding to the song. Well, if you disappeared in there, don't worry. Yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll cover for you. Don't worry. Don't worry. Yeah.

So shout out to Sloan. Chris Murphy's an FOTM too. Cool. worry. Don't worry. Yeah. So shout out to Sloan. Chris Murphy's an FOTM too. So nice. Good on them. Okay. So you guys, again, Ben gone.

Ben gone. Now you got Shauna and Chris. You guys somehow talk the bosses into bringing Jay on board. And how long you guys been together as a trio now? Well, I don't want it to sound like we had to, like, strong arm our boss into bringing Jay on. He killed it. Does Jay pay to be on this show?

Tell me. Still is. Not only does he pay, he pays great money. Yeah, he really does. I have good sponsors. How long has it been, the three of us? I started in late July of last year, officially, according to my pay stub.

Okay. Which? God, it feels so much longer. Yes. Just joking. I'm joking. It doesn't. I promised via Twitter.

I had a very positive Ron McLean experience yesterday, and I promised I would talk about it. So goodbye, Sloan. Thank you for the two-minute ditty to get us to traffic or sports or whatever the heck we do on FM radio here. Okay. So long story short, I guess, without too many details, a listener of this show is like a guidance counselor

for an Oakville high school. And in Oakville, sadly, like I hope grade 12 maybe, but a student died suddenly. And this student was a big hockey player and everybody loved this student. And I saw the story. The story is heartbreaking. I believe this gentleman's name who passed away is Ben, I believe. I hope I have that right.

So this, again, this listener is trying to do this fundraising thing and this whole memorial that has this wonderful idea to kind of do something for Ben because the students are all heartbroken, as you can imagine, or whatever. If I cry, you guys have to take over here because there's no one here. So anyway, they want to get a message to Ron McLean. So I get...

And they don't know how to get to... How do you get sent to Ron McLean. Okay. So I get, I, and they don't know how to get to, how do you get sent to Ron McLean? And I would argue this is the worst week in Ron McLean's professional life. Guaranteed. Yeah. Definitely one of, one of them, maybe last week was worse,

but. Yeah. Yeah. Right. The last two weeks. Definitely worse than the time he got caught dancing shirtless, hammer drunk. Well,

he does that a lot. That's, that's a Ron McLean thing to do, but he's always been appropriate about it. Good. I'm glad you're, you're making me laugh. So I don't cry. he does that a lot. That's a Ron McLean thing to do, but he's always been appropriate about it. Good. I'm glad you're making me laugh so I don't cry. I like that.

Okay. So it's about time you make me laugh. What took you so long? Oh, damn it. So to wrap this up, believe it or not, Ron and I have a relationship. He's been on the show

and I get this message to Ron McLean. And I'm telling you, two minutes after I sent him this letter that was from the guidance counselor at school, Ron got back to both of us like just Ron's like this is my phone number anything you want for Ben I will do anything he's gonna don't he's gonna he wants to know he's gonna be there he's gonna don't he's literally Ron McClain is going to do everything within his human power for this kid Ben amazing. And this all happened last night. And I'm thinking, okay,

like we can talk about Don Cherry till we're blue in the face and maybe you have on the morning grind or whatever, but. We've mentioned it. It came up, right? Just now Babcock's trying to push that aside. The Babcock stuff here. But in my limited experience,

but again, many, many emails, his phone conversations, he's been here, spent a couple hours here with me one-on-one i in my experience ron mclean is such a genuinely kind and classy individual and it really when i see people's you know ron should be fired because he missed it like in real time when he was setting up the clip and you know oh he gave a thumbs up out of here like forget the 30 40 years of goodwill he's built up doing things like this you know get him out of here because his co-host said something uh offensive and he didn't you know i don't know he didn't smack don across the face or something. Don, you idiot. Boom. Anyway, so I just wanted to share this story because these are the stories that don't often get any exposure.

And I was like a conduit for one, and I witnessed it in real time last night, and it just blew my mind. That's amazing. That's a great story. Ron's a great guy. I've had an opportunity to meet him before as well. I don't understand why I got so much slack after that because he's been

there and he's dug cherry out of so many more than slack yeah sorry sorry yeah um yeah he's dug cherry out of so many dumb things he said on air whether it be talking about how women need to stop yapping at games because they're getting hit in the face with pucks or something like that and mclean's always been there to take the other side and at least try to smooth it over a little bit and he needs to get some love for that because he's never he's never been the one to sell cherry out live on tv and i don't understand why people think he would start doing it now i also don't understand how i think relatively like sports nets kind of left this whole situation relatively unscathed.

That wasn't a live hit. That was pre-recorded. But how much time between recording in the first airing of that coach's corner? You know, it might've, it might've been 10 or 20 seconds. Cause I've had multiple different things on this and it aired,

I think it aired three times in total maybe. So yes. And they all come kind of quick. Like that first period ends. This one's maybe five minutes behind or whatever. Like there is a pretty quick, it doesn't air like in the Vancouver, the late night game doesn't get the total. Here's the thing though,

they threw to a pre-produced segment of Don in Flanders Field. He went down there to visit the graves. So I have to think that that segment was produced and pre-produced and some of that stuff was written down. And I think there's some questions there as to why that needed to air three times. Who didn't catch that?

I have a lot of respect for anyone who talks in front of a live mic for a living. And not to excuse Don, but I also think that some other, you know, if everyone's going to take the heads off of Don and Ron, then some other heads have to roll. There's got to be people in the background that have watched that, produced that, approved what he said. Well, Don's been a ticking time bomb literally for decades.

And I tweeted this right at the time, is that Don did not change. uh that donald don's been a ticking ticking time bomb for literally for decades like don don and i tweeted this at right at the time is that don did not change we all change like don has been done for 30 years this is consistent with in fact when you hear when i i wasn't surprised in the least at what don actually said go ahead i was just gonna say i'm actually surprised it took that long for him to say something like that but Well, you know why? Cause we sort of ignored it when he went at the French, right? We ignored it. European hockey players.

He hates, he's been going at the Swedes and the Russians forever, right? Like we ignore that. We ignore it when he goes at, uh, when he goes at, uh,

like I said, the French in this country, right? He went at my people. Okay. Yes. The cyclists. Yeah.

All right. How did he serve? Yes. In 2010 2010 and he went at us uh pinko cyclists or whatever he went at us cyclists this is the truth at the rob ford inauguration yep so we all somehow did he get away with coming at us uh a cyclist but he didn't get away of this one it was a ticking time bomb uh the world has evolved and don has not he's been consistently don i wasn't surprised at what he said uh but ron i i was disappointed in real time that he didn't catch it to call him out like he would typically he's if don had made a comment about a woman going into the dressing room to interview austin matthews ron's pretty good at calling don out definitely yes right so he missed i think he missed it for whatever reason. Do you think he missed it or he was that shocked of what Don actually said?

I think he missed it. I've seen, you'd see on his face, you know, we did, we do this like before Don got fired, we would play clips of coach's corner and make fun of them because he's not really putting coherent sentences together. To put an old time hockey.

If you transcribe what he's actually saying a lot of it isn't coherent and i kind of think don ron might have got caught up in a moment of like active listening but also not understanding because you just if you take the time put your closed captioning on put on a coach's corner he's not talking coherently and i there's nothing i'm not knocking don cherry for that he's an 85 year old man and uh he's not talking coherently and i there's nothing i'm not knocking don cherry for that he's an 85 year old man and uh he's done some great work but he's just not making a lot of sense and he hasn't been making a lot of sense for many years no so 85 has nothing to do with it uh it does well he didn't make sense when he was 55 well he talked a little clearer he does seem to be a

little he finished sentences yeah like it is i'm not being ageist he's a senior citizen of advanced age you know so it is what it is i think kind of i the way i look at it maybe ron got lost a little bit in that don't forget too they're talking about remembrance day they're talking about veterans you're in a mindset as people who we don't do serious stuff very often when we're about to talk about something like remembrance day or 9-11 it's very different for us so maybe he was so focused on those kinds of things, right? He's not in his usual, I'm going to call Don out on what he says.

I think you're exactly right. It's a sensitive subject to begin with. And you want to be respectful and there's a different tone. Totally. And of course, he's probably got someone in his ear, you know, 10 seconds to clip or whatever. Hell yeah.

He's producing the show essentially, for better or worse. And I can see him whiffing it. But once he whiffed it, he apologizes the next day on Hometown Hockey. Then he does his five-minute monologue. So I am a little surprised at how many people are still kind of pissed at Ron and want him fired and hated what he did the other night and everything. I just think he's in a lose-lose now. People are internalizing this issue. I're making it i had a conversation with my

stepmom my dad's story that's like right from italy still a thick accent and he's we're sitting down and we're talking and having a meal and he's like oh did you see what they did to don cherry uh they screwed him over oh this and that you know what did he say wasn't that bad and i'm like him over oh this and that you know what did he say wasn't that bad and i'm like julio listen the the you people he's referring to is you you're you came from another country here for the milk and honey and uh you know he's talking about you and he took a minute to think about it and he was like oh i get it like there's there's we're all immigrants and a lot of it. And listen, he was talking about in the eighties, he was singling out. He didn't like Swedes coming here. He didn't like the Dutch.

He didn't like all different kinds of people. And I think we're forgetting that, that a lot of the you people he's referring to it. And a lot of people are going to yell at me and get mad at this, but whatever. This is my opinion of it. I think what he said was awful. And he's been saying awful stuff like that for a long time. You can't say that shit. You can't?

On Coach's Corner, on the airing on CBC across the country. People are writing us. We talked about this on the show, and they're like, what happened to free speech? I'm like, he's getting paid millions of dollars a year to talk about hockey on a show called Coach's Corner, and somehow he got into immigration and that's why you should get fired also people fundamentally most people don't seem to understand what freedom of

speech is like they seem to think you have the right to say whatever you want on this television show that's paid speech he's getting paid to talk money for talk no one was going to arrest don sherry for these thoughts that's his freedom of speech. He can have them. But you know, Rogers might want to protect the brand and they might not want that aligned with their brand. And that's what happened. So I will say if you want to peel the onion, is that what has all the layers?

I don't know. You know what else has layers, Mike? Lasagna from Palmer's Kitchen. There's many layers of meat and cheese. This guy's good. This guy's good. I better see you better see you on the december 7th at palma palma's kitchen that's funny uh heck uh i was gonna say uh joel warmington you ever read this guy in the toronto sun uh yes worms okay he riled up cherry i think the day before uh because joe had decided he was not seeing many poppies when he walked around or whatever.

And he does what he does, which is he writes at the Sun and tries to rile people up. There's no poppies. He called his buddy Don Cherry for comment. Like, Don, I'm not seeing many poppies anymore. And then Don does what Don does. And I don't think Don was necessarily, you know, talking about new Canadians in this particular rant.

But Don ranted to Joe Warmington about how we should all wear poppies and people should wear poppies. And like, that's what Don does. That's right on his brand or whatever. And I think he riled him up. And I think that's what led to the rant on the Saturday night.

Joe, I think, got them all, you know. So it's funny how things kind of work out. But no more Donnie podcast now. Yeah, have you heard any? Have you tried? I know. I listened to the first chunk of the first episode because he was going to address everything.

And I was so underwhelmed at how little we learned from that. He said more in other interviews he did that day, the next day, because he did a bunch of media the next day. Yeah, he's been doing a lot of media. I keep thinking he's going to come down these stairs one day and be ready for his... Oh, look at this. Look at this Toronto mug. I'm here.

I think Don would like me. I'll wear a poppy. Yeah, wear a poppy just in case you show up. I know. First of all, I hate the whole shaming people who don't wear a poppy. If you don't wear a poppy, that's fine. I hate the whole shaming of it. And I really hate what Don did forever, which is tell hockey players they are

to be judged by how good they look in their suits when they walk into that damn building. I'm sorry. That's my podcast. Who gives a fuck how sharp somebody looks in their suit when they come to the game? Yeah, exactly. He was very selective with his chirps.

That was going to get him fired next, in my opinion. And let's be real. I played a lot of hockey tournaments growing up, and you go to a farm town, and you get kids rolling in with jeans no belts on and like plaid shirts. They will smoke you. Yeah. All they've done is played hockey.

Like they were raised on the stick and puck. It's also with the Don thing, everyone complaining about PC culture, and I agree with some arguments against PC culture, but an 85-year-old man yelling at the world to wear a poppy seems to be the most politically correct thing you can do. That's the whole definition of political correctness. Fall in line to the government holidays. This is what we went to war against,

this whole forced conformity in Germany during World War II. They fought so we have the freedom to not wear a damn poppy, okay? That's exactly it. And not wearing a damn poppy. Okay. Exactly. And not wearing a poppy does not mean you hate this country and you're not a proud Canadian. Like, why do we have to be so these symbols like,

oh, it's gross. And that's political correctness, not firing him for what he said. PC culture is prevalent in a lot of different areas, but that wasn't an example of it. And it wasn't a free speech example. you know, there's, there's many layers to that story,

but I don't believe those are some of them. So there you go. I told the Ron McLean story and it branched out into a little Don Cherry. Maybe that'll be the last. I had Dave Hodge here yesterday and Dave was, he really held the cards close to his chest.

This is before, by the way, before Babcock got fired, at least before we got word of it or whatever, because Brendan Shanahan is going to be at an event Monday night. I'll be there as well. But Brendan Shanahan is the special guest for the reporters. You know the reporters? Yes. This is Dave Hodge, Bruce Arthur, Steve Simmons, and Michael Farber.

So this is all going down Monday night, and we were talking about Dave Hodge, and Michael Farber. So this is all going down Monday night, and we were talking about Dave Hodge, and Brendan's there, and I did crack that Brendan would fire Babcock during the live show. This was my joke, which, of course, now when people listen, that joke did not age well.

That's a hard joke. It aged like milk. Okay, so let's get this Howard Stern story out of the way, and then I need more questions for Sean and Chris, becauseris because i gotta know a little bit of their background here but uh you and roddy just do comedy bits yeah so uh roddy and roddy's a long-term collaborator of mine we do the dumb show podcast and we recently put out a a new uh album the dumb show uh the dumb side of the moon and that came out like last month I believe and so we were just kind of thinking about what are we going to do next we put out

two albums they both went to number one in Canada so we wanted to kind of start working again on material and we kind of like you know promoting stuff we were a little rusty and we're like why don't we we're both

big stern fans huge stern show fans they're like you want to put together some stuff for stern some songs you want to like try to write some parody songs for howard and and uh he's like yeah let's do that and we did it at first just as like let's kind of like get the rust out start writing again start working together um and again on creative stuff and we put together a bunch of stern songs um and track down a few contacts and sent them in and they were received very positively and uh we didn't really know what the people they were just like hey we like them do try this though and but who because we know these characters like who are you hearing from? Sal, who are you hearing from? There's actually no, it's a guy named Mike, Mike Fox, New York, Howard Stern, Mike.

And Mike Fox would. There's a lot of Mike's out there. Howard Stern, Mike Fox. He sent us an email back after we put together a big song. And he said, hey, try doing it like this. Give us a quick suggestion and we're like sure so we just started sending material and material material and uh we kept getting a thank you back and then one day we got this email saying that oh we just played your song on the show i

don't know if you listened to it and uh we enjoyed it and let's keep sending stuff in and now they're requesting things and we're sending them material. Did you hear it played on the show, like either live or in replay? I heard it in replay, yeah. Did they mention who did the song? Like, do you guys get a shout-out, or did they just play it? He's like, hey, do you want to hear the Jackhammer song? There's a character on the show called the Jackhammer.

So for background purposes, there's one of the big staffers, a man named Brent Hatley. Him and his wife are swingers. And Howard Stern recently went to L.A. to put on a series of shows. And Brent's wife stayed in New York. And they had an arrangement where they could both sleep with other people while they were away. Right. So she ended up hooking up with a porn star called the Jackhammer. That can't be away. Right. So she ended up hooking up with a porn star called the Jackhammer. Oh.

And. That can't be good. No. And we decided to make a parody song about it. And Jackhammer was on the show and he threw to the Jackhammer song. Has Shauna and Chris heard this song yet? Yes.

I have. Yeah. All right. So let me play it again. Sorry, Periscopers. But here's Jackhammer. When Caitlyn needs a steamy time So steamy.

And Brent is away from home Jay, this is you singing? Yes. Who can rattle her pussy bones Explicit content. The jackhammer.

The way he fucks puts Brandt to shame. He still doesn't fuck her as good as I do. She needs a jackhammer. It felt so good. He's very thankful for the fucking. Thank you, Brandt. I had an thankful for the barking. Thank you, Brent. I had an amazing time. I had sex with your wife.

Wow. We didn't play that on our show. Oh, no. That's too many beeps. I'm not even sure if I was allowed to play that on my show. So good for you because that's going to go on the resume forever, right? Yeah, and we hope to keep contributing to the show and stuff and Roddy and I have been writing songs together working on songs and stuff

and he sings as well on them uh I just sound dumber he's a professional singer I'm a professional idiot so sometimes we'll take turns it goes real well yeah we'll take turns on the vocals and uh but we write them together okay so you and roddy made some noise on twitter about uh having your bit on the howard stern show which was a big deal yeah you know i follow you guys and then i saw a tweet from uh todd shapiro yep and this tweet read uh i thought that after we spread our wings you oh no that's yours never mind so todd shapiro shares what did todd shapiro he shared this uh clip or said something like when he met you guys, he thought you'd be destined for greatness or something.

That's a paraphrase. I forgot to copy and paste this tweet. Yeah, along those lines. Yeah, he, something of the sort. See, I almost blew it. I almost read your reply. So, and you subtweeted it and said, this is in response to Todd saying that he saw you guys were great and going to be doing great things. You said,

I thought that after we spread our wings, that's in quotes, I guess that was in the Todd Shapiro tweet. You asked my boss over there not to pay me for on air work. So this is a very public, like, I mean, people get the popcorn and enjoy to watch the,

the public spat here. You and you and Shapiro. Yeah, I would rather let the tweets speak for themselves. And I've been on the show before and we talked. And at the end of the day, I just want to associate myself with the people that have helped me a great deal in my career. So Shauna, Chris, Alison Doerr at Sirius, Joe Thistle at Sirius, Roddy Comer. The people that have really nurtured my career and helped me. Wayne Williams, Tammy Cole. Shoshana, Chris, Alison Doerr at Sirius, Joe Thistle at Sirius, Roddy Comer, the people that have really nurtured my career and helped me,

Wayne Williams, Tammy Cole, people that have helped nurture my career and brought me to this point and have stayed consistent in doing that. And that's the focus. Well, how positive of you. Very good. But is it just the hypocrisy that, you know, this person who had gone out of their way to try to like suppress or oppress and limit you is now almost like trying to tie himself to your rising star. You know,

I just, this is one of those things that I'd rather not get into because I don't want to get any, if you don't have anything good to say, you shouldn't say it. And I just don't have anything good to say. And I think that I've been, I, I just don't have anything good to say. And, and I think that, uh,

I've been, I, when I got into radio is listen, being on the Howard Stern shows, one of the greatest things that's ever happened to me in my life. And, uh, it reflecting on that and looking back at it in the relationship we're

building there, I realized that I got into entertainment thinking that it would be based on my own merits that I would become successful or fail. And what I've come to realize is that it is I've been largely able to make a living in Canada as an entertainer because of the people around me that have lifted me up in dark times and have helped me get light. and have helped me get light. So again, you know, shouting out people like Allison and Joe and Shauna and Chris and Wayne, that's more something that, that's more of a path I'd like to stay on

than go down a dark road. How about Chris and Shauna? What do you guys think? He just wanted to shine a light on the hypocrisy there. And that's what I think there, which is fair game. And again, you did tweet this. I'm going to remind you that this is public a forum. Do you regret the tweet? Um, you back i i would uh good question shauna

my new co-host is now shauna what the hell okay you know it's just i've been asked not to talk about it yeah fair enough that's okay i don't want to get you in trouble yeah that is like this and that's the way it is and i've been asked not to talk about it in hindsight. You know, just being more in line of this. And I just don't want any association with that part of... I asked him to delete the tweet. I responded, please delete the tweet. The tweet's still there. I asked for it to be taken down.

I won't go further into it. But you didn't delete your tweet. So if people want to go read this. I blocked. I had to listen. I wanted the tweet down. I asked for it to be deleted. It was not.

So I blocked him on Twitter so that if you go onto the profile, you can't really see that tweet on it. It's just the way social media works. And that is probably more than I wanted to say, but it is what happened. A little tip, though. If you're going to have a a feud with someone make sure that they don't know how to use social media i was getting a similar tip with if you want to have a if you're having a private squabble don't tweet about it no i get it but like listen it's a shit storm uh shit storm came about

because of a tweet and uh i'll just say this i've followed both of them on social media and i haven't seen a tweet directed at either of them from each other until jay hit the show yeah well listen and again like we've had uh that's great point there's never there was never yeah that's all we don't follow each other and we haven't talked and listen i we work in the the same building a lot of times and it's always been professional there's never been anything unprofessional in that building and there never will be, but we don't associate with each other. And that's, and I wish to have no association with him at all. So the tweet was a surprise and, uh, you know, that happening and, and I, you know, I was hoping it would just come down and not stay on the record forever because, you know, I'm happy

to be a part, uh, to not be a part of his career and his path anymore and that's the way i like to keep it so fair enough my man so we did an episode before with you and there's a lot said there thank you okay now uh i'm not talking about todd here but you may have met a woman on the todd shapiro show when you were working there with Roddy. Anna? Yeah, Anna Saison. What can you say about Anna? This is my curiosity here.

Anna is fantastic. She's a world-class talent. She's a firecracker in all the best ways. She's really funny. When we were on the show together, she was sharp and beautiful and could sing wonderfully. She was on Canadian Idol. Yeah, she was on Canadian Idol. What? Yeah, she was a Canadian Idol star,

and she's done some great stuff overseas as well, really popular in Poland. And if you get a chance to catch any of her live performances in town, you should go. She's super talented and wonderful. Are you in love with her? Are you in love with her? I don't like when he talks about other women.

I ate her panties. This is the girl. I've never known her name before. He wouldn't tell us the name. Shauna is jealous. I can tell. I get very jealous. I don't like when he talks about Allison either. I really don't. I've seen Shauna

try to force feed Jay her panties before in the studio. He won't do it. Is Jay husband number three? I'm not sure. No. I'm not sure. I have a picture that is them standing together in front of an Oakville house with a baby. It looks like they're a couple.

We did a live broadcast from the Princess Margaret show home, and we thought, why not make it our Christmas card? I mean, if we can open the marriage. Italian relatives. Yes. Maybe if we could open the marriage you know just i'm already there but i mean open it like a jar it only opened on my end the bottom of the bottom is still solid it keeps everything in i thought we were coming back to jackhammer there all right all right so okay so the reason i'm asking about anna is no creepy reason because she's booked on Toronto Mike.

Great. And I just wanted to make sure she wasn't a jerk or something. No, she's fantastic. And, you know, myself, her, Jeff Willingham, and Roddy, who used to work. Never heard of him. On Todd's show. This is the one Sean is in love with. We had a job.

Yeah. When he started singing, something happened inside me. She looked like a dog who heard one of those whistles that people can't hear when he started singing. That's it. Yeah, exactly. Wow. And he had a shirt on because he's got those abs, right? I didn't even know about the abs till after.

Yes. And I did my creeping after the fact. You can have Roddy. I'll take Jamie. Deal. You guys should be co-hosts. You should be co-hosts. Yeah, she's going to be great.

I'll be listening when she's on. Okay, cool. Enough about Anna. Oh, my God. We'll have to move on from Anna. Look at him. He's all smiley and twinkly-eyed. She's not attractive at all, Anna.

Oh, she's gorgeous. Tell her you said hello, and then slip her my number, and then... You know what? Slip her my number, too. Shut up! I don't know what she looks like. Are you single, Chris? Are you single?

I am. Uh-oh. Lose the beard. You'll get a lot of chicks right away they like the beard we did i shaved him once i shaved him down and i cleaned him up yeah yeah maybe it looks itchy like i wouldn't want to make out with this guy surprisingly not you go through an itchy phase but it's that phase where it's like just past double that's the worst phase maybe that's why i gotta just persevere definitely you're gonna look like a creep down there yeah you're gonna look like a creep for maybe a week but after that the ladies like it okay so once in a while when i'm next you got a bit of uh salt and pepper going on now actually i'm looking at jay right now but uh chris doesn't have that yet but i think mine right now would be way too white like i feel like more salt and

pepper yeah and i'm not gonna dye my beard because i just don't want to dye it not bro look you look like a retired UFC fighter Mike you kind of do yeah oh yeah is that good or bad I don't know I don't know it's like if I get off offside you'll roll me and break my arm with an arm bar oh I like this can we can we elaborate okay so uh I want to say hi to James Patterson he's a listener he actually wanted me to ask you guys about the great cup but I realized we already did that. He was listening to you guys make the bet with TJ Connors. Right. I think we've devoted the necessary TJ Connors component.

Again, next time you're on the air or whatever talking to TJ, ask him to talk like Scruff. It's amazing. We will. Yeah, for sure. We're going to follow up on Tuesday because the bet will have to be paid off. There's a word Scruff used to use referring to listeners, and he would call them the listenership. And I find myself using it all the time.

Like I'm talking about listeners. I'll go, oh, the listenership really like this or whatever. And I realize that's from Scruff. So even I have adopted a Scruffism, so to speak. There's a question from Jovan, a new listener to the program who wanted to know which one of you is the funniest. You guys talk amongst yourselves about that.

We're kind of like a volleyball team. So it's a lot of like throwing the ball up in the air, letting the other person spike it, doing stuff like that. I don't know if, you know, who would be the funniest,

but I was on the Howard Stern show. I knew that shit was coming. I was featured on the biggest radio show of all time. That's just the difference. But otherwise, it's just like a volleyball game or like a great hockey team. We're like the Raptors the other night with 40 assists. Except I'm Kawhi. That's it.

You're Kawhi? Yeah, because we're going to trade your ass next season. You don't need him because your record without him is better, actually. Like, that's an incredible record without him. Look at the numbers, though. The record with even going back to last season when he did his load maintenance or whatever. The Raptor record last season, and even so far this year,

considering, you know, quick aside, is that this is an, I don't know, I think we need to give a lot of credit to uh nurse because uh nick nurse because uh this is an incredible team yeah big time without kawaii leonard yeah spicy p just can you be most improved player two years in a row like this has to happen though yeah it's amazing i really have so much respect for that team and og like uh we didn't even have him for the playoffs no appendix burst like the day before the first game. Yeah. He almost died.

We would have swept those warriors. Come on. It's amazing. It's amazing. I hate hearing people say that it was a fluke because they're idiots. They're idiots. It took so much, but also I I'm, I'm upset hearing about people get mad at Kawhi now for the load management

stuff. And I wish he stayed in Toronto because he wouldn't be catching the flack because that was the deal he had here. He's like, you don't feel like playing today? Don't worry. As long as we get to the playoffs, and you put it all on the line. Yeah, and you hit 30 points in the game. Well, he's only getting flack, because the television actually cares about

Clippers games, right? They didn't give a rat's ass about a Raptor game until the playoffs. No, they were showing highlights the whole time. We're irrelevant to that marketplace but they want they want those marquee matchups uh clippers versus lakers for example whatever uh that's why it's suddenly news because tn these these networks are like we're broadcasting your game and you're not playing like this is a big deal do you remember last season i think like

the raptors had the best record in basketball. And then I think the Heat did. And they were about to match up. And he was like undefeated at the time. I might have the wrong team. But Kawhi, they like benched Kawhi and another great player. You have the wrong team because I think you're talking about the Bucs. That's what I think you're doing. Yeah, it's the Bucs.

And they basically kind of said like, hey, we throw in this game. And they came out and played. And they're just like, we're not going to do this. We're not doing this. Yeah, that was our first loss of the season. Yes. And they're just like, oh, whatever. Kawh we're not doing this yeah that was the first our first loss of the season yes and they're just like oh whatever kweiser's gonna sit and i think another player sat and uh everyone in toronto was like all right whatever it's it's a marathon not a sprint but he could have gotten that here if he stayed it's kind of a genius play though too

on the coach's part is sit your best players when you're facing the best team at the time because if you do meet up in the playoffs they won't have a read on how your best players play 100 and 82 games is too long it's too long for a season it's a long well they got to sell those tickets i get it oh and they do though that's yeah and all that television rights but yeah i'm with you it's a long haul and with the leafs even i mean assuming we write the ship and we actually make the playoffs like i don't give a rat's ass about anything really. So long as we make the playoffs. Until the playoffs. Because this team is going to be completely judged by what happens in April.

But okay. No more sports talk. Because Shauna doesn't like it. Sports. Sports. Too much sports in this episode here. I have more gifts for you. Sticker U is a proud sponsor.

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I bike there in the rain to bring you your stickers he was magically there yes I'm a little not too stalkery because he was on TV it's not like I have my binoculars

and I see him there so why do all the pictures you have of him have leaves in front of them? The invoice is little magazine letters stuck out and glued on there. So it's a poutine festival or something. Some poutine

thing is going on and he's covering it for CP24. And guess, you get one guess, who is on the stage yakking, I guess was hired by this poutine company to promote their wares at this young Dundas Square? Who do you think was on the stage? Maybe Jay can get one guess at this.

Was it, I'm not sure, Pigskin Pete? Maybe, no, I don't know. Okay, it was Dean Blundell. Oh, the poutine game, eh? Right, right. A little poutine. That's a fun, for the FOTMs, that's a fun little shout out. But yeah, you can,

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uh, these Toronto Mike sticker, I can't wait to find out cause I'm giving you guys a Toronto Mike sticker. I can't wait to find out where that ends up. It would look good on my Supra, but I don't know. Fancy! We'll bring this into our Y108 studio

and we'll find a place for it. Okay, but tweet a picture at me where it ends up. For sure. I need to know here right now. Now, next week on Toronto Mic, kicking out the jams is Brian Master. He's a radio veteran. He's currently at The Jewel, but he was on CHFI and Chum FM. He's a big deal in this market. Great boy. This is how you guys should sound. Not you, Sean. You have a different kind Jewel, but he was on CHFI and Chum FM. He's a big deal in this market.

Great boy. This is how you guys should sound. Not you, Shauna. You have a different kind of voice, but this is what a radio person sounds like. And this is Brian talking about real estate. So here's Brian. Hi, it's Brian Master, sales representative with Keller Williams to Realty Solutions Brokerage. I like working by referral. I love working with people, finding out what they need and where they want to go. So every month I put out an item of value called the Client Appreciation Program. And this is really great material. It's all about, well, for one thing, the way the real estate market is, but other things like, well, this month is how to turn your home into a smart home. We've also had things about how to

throw a party on a budget, some travel tips. It's really great stuff and it comes out once a month called the Client Appreciation Program. I'd love to get you on it. It's easy to do. Send me an email to letsgetyouhomeatkw.com and I'll send that out once a month via snail mail and follow it up with an email that's something related to the item of value. You can't miss. It's great information. It's something you can share with your friends. I'm Brian Master, sales representative with Keller Williams Realty Solutions Brokerage.

Thrilled to be on Toronto Mic'd. Thank you, Brian. Yeah, he sounds great. That's how you're supposed to sound. I'm going to talk. You guys sound way better than I do. This is, they didn't pay us for our looks or voices. We don't know.

All right. Yeah. So you're at Y108, a chorus-owned station in Hamilton. Yeah. I'm a little bit of a radio geek, so I knew this question. So you play rock. I like what you play. It's harder rock, I'd say, right?

World-class rock. Yeah. That's what we call it over there. A little bit of everything. So naturally, I look around, like, who's Y108's competition or whatever. So you guys have already mentioned the station in St. Catharines. Yes. Hits 97.7.

And they had TJ Connors as their morning show guy. Now in Winnipeg, your buddies with him now. And Biggs and Barr take over. Like to me, Biggs and bar like bar i just mentioned you mentioned shapiro yes i mentioned blendel right so it's natural we now mention jason bar here okay so jason bar and chris biggs have a show in uh saint catherine's there and they're playing a similar can i same kind of music they're actually gone yes this is where i'm going with this right so so are you guys like do you guys pop champagne when they leave the market?

Like, is there happiness? What happened? What happened? I'm happy anytime someone, like, I think in radio what ends up happening is, like, people fall in love with areas. So, like, there'll be a year where a bunch of people from Vancouver will get sent or a bunch of people from, like, BC will be sent to one market and it seems that uh they got a great deal to go to ottawa and anytime someone in this business can like keep a job and grow yeah uh and and get yeah but now you don't have to compete

with them well that's great and i honestly we should look at the hamilton book at the last time before right before they left right well we beat them we beat them in the last time right before they left. Right. Well, we beat them. We beat them in the last book. Okay, well, do a little bragging. No, we didn't always beat them. I don't even know these things. That's for fucking sure. We didn't always. No.

He's not going to look it up. No, I'm not going to look it up. I need to know, but be honest with me. How did you do against Biggs and Barr? Last book, we did better than them in our market.

So everybody knows in radio, people, when they say they're best, they're talking about their targeted demographic, right? Yeah. What is your demo that you target? Males 24 to 54. Hello.

Oh, good. I'm still in there. Yeah. Just making sure. When I age out, I'll be sad. You're one of us. Yeah. And then for some reason, we have like a pretty decent female following too.

The people who like to complain about us also write down that they listen to us. It's beautiful. They like to listen, then complain. Do they have to write it down? Yeah, we're in a diary market. Yeah, we're in an OG market. It's a weird way to live your life. Like being concerned about,

it's like 330 books get sent back in. That's it. And that determines your fate. Yeah, they times it by like 100,000 or something stupid. And there's room for, I'm going to guess, because of the nature of the writing diary system, that there is room for manipulation here, right? Of course.

Some people could maybe fix it a little bit, possibly. I don't know how you would do that. No. I would love to know if you didn't. I'm just trying to cause some trouble here. Send me a letter. I don't know how to do that. I would love to hear it.

If we can do that, we would be already. See, on the dark web, you say, hey, does anyone have a diary? Contact me a letter. I don't know. I would love to hear it. If we can do that, we would be already. See, on the dark web, you say, hey, does anyone have a diary? Contact me at this. And then you get a go. Let's say, let's hear me out, though. Let's say you get 15 people in your targeted demo. Because your demo, I don't think they're good diary keepers. I think it's working against you right away.

The problem is, is everyone who's good at diary. CHFI. Exactly. I know. I'm with you, man. That's why in this market, they've switched to the PPM devices or whatever. But even that, well, there's a whole, I think it's all whatever, crock, but whatever.

So you get 15 people in your targeted demo that you now control. I don't know, maybe there's unmarked bills in a paper bag going in a dark alley to them or something. But you now control these 15 diaries. And if all 15 listen to the morning grind, I think you can move the needle on controlling 15 of these things. If the pool's only like 300.

The real problem is, though, is if we talk about ratings or anything like that on air, on Y108, on the morning grind, we're no longer a show. Yeah, a referee shows up and throws a red card down. That's why we're doing it here, where have no control no listen that's the reality of the business and the whole that's that's why we want to we focus on a lot of doing a lot of digital stuff a lot of facebook stuff and uh as much social media as we can because at the end of

the day you kind of want to and podcasting as well which we do every day, you want people to hear you and write it down. So say it's on a podcast. But only three. So how many, okay, how many diaries exist for your targeted demographic? They'll send out a ton. It depends how much they get back. Do you have any idea approximately,

like the grand total? But is that in your targeted demo or is that overall? I think overall it's 330. Right, right. So think about it. How many of those are men aged uh whatever 25 whatever 54 whatever well i don't know let's pretend it's 60 let's i'm gonna make up and i'm making up numbers now because but i'm letting people know i'm making them up which makes it okay so 60 let's say there's 60 diaries that go to people in your targeted demo you could probably move the needle with five of those guys.

Huge. 100%. That's why rating shows are so important. Every day when you're in the ratings period, you have to do the best show on Creative Buzz because you want to steal a book. You want to get a book. One book.

So you're literally going to do things to the masses because there's millions of people in your listening range or whatever, but you're only targeting those 60 people. Think about how amazing this this whole uh infrastructure the thing is is you're trying to target shauna's on board with me by the way yeah i know you're trying to target everyone it's the same targeting everyone but it's 60 people that'll fill it out and send it back and that's what the ad rates are going to be based on but here's the thing is if you look at it we're not targeting those people males 24 to 54 are not the guys who are going to get that letter, fill it out and send it back. So we're already fighting like stations who are lighter or maybe country at the time.

They have who like wives or someone like that who's going to actually fill out the form. And it's been proven to us that we're fighting an uphill battle already. going to actually fill out the form. And it's been proven to us that we're fighting an uphill battle already on that. I also think that if you create a show that's open and honest and really let your listeners come inside the show and bring themselves in with them,

and we have a text line, we respond to our texts and our Facebook and we're interactive, people build up a loyalty and will be more willing to do that, to take the time out of their day to show support. And it's the same thing with what I found doing podcasts is that even though your podcast

can have a thousand listeners every week, but those thousand listeners will engage with your products way more than a radio show with like 100,000 listeners will because they're more loyal. They understand that, how important it is. Well, of course, you can't be a passive podcast listener because you have to do all these things to make it go into your ears. Yes, 100%. Like it's not like you can be like, passive podcast listener because you have to do all these things to make it go into your ears.

It's not like you can be like, I don't know, in a car and you're flipping around or it's in the background or something. I felt bad for a lot of older people who were looking for the Don Cherry station. Radios, right? Like, where is this podcast? All right, quick aside.

As a guy who produces, I produce other people's podcasts as well as my own. And if you guys ever become unaffiliated, of course, you know who you can call to help you be broadcasting. But Bigs and Bars started as a podcast, which I think is a cool story. But okay, all this is to say that

I love it when somebody like a Don Cherry podcast, like I so much love it because now you have this whole segment of the population who are like, what the hell is a podcast? Because I need to hear my Don Cherry and what he's saying. And they're forced into the ecosystem. And this is truly where a rising tide lifts all boats.

Because now the universe of podcast listeners is growing. And that's just another potential, be it Hebsey on sports or whatever. But you remember what it was like, Mike, a couple years ago. You'd be like, I'm Toronto Mike, I have a podcast, and people would be like, what's a podcast? And you didn't even have to, but this was,

you've been doing it for a while, right? You were in those times, and so was I. You would have to like, sometimes you'd have to communicate to people what a podcast even was. And now, when I tell people we have a Morning Grind podcast,

if they're younger, they're like, oh my God, you have a podcast? I'm like, yeah, but I'm also on the radio. And they don't care. They're like, this is a bigger deal that you have a podcast. I have a morning grind podcast if they're younger they're like oh my god you have a podcast i'm like yeah but i'm also on the radio and they don't care they're like this is a bigger deal that you have i have a question do the ads make it to the podcast no um they play one at the end so there's a post roll podcast ad that happens right after our final credits um and that's but that's just that's a part of like uh deal that is made with Chorus. No, I'm obviously curious because if somebody loved your banter and thought you guys were funny, well, A, they need some, you know, help psychologically.

Definitely. But B, you know, terrestrial radio stops and does ads and stuff and they might just want to hear more of you and less that. And then they might go to the podcast. You listen, you could definitely do that, but the music's fantastic too. So we want to be in the car with you when you're going to work. And you're live. And then if things are happening live.

We're live and we're local. Right, you're local. So you're not pretending. I know there's like Hamilton stations that pretend they're Toronto stations, right? Really? Yes, I don't know if you've heard this. I've never heard about that before. If anyone's listening who I work with.

Who owns the station that Tucker is on? That's a course property. Yeah. So it's in your family. You can't say bad things about that show. Although they're probably wonderful people, but I've never met Tucker. Although Amora I've met and she's,

she has a wonderful person. She's awesome. But they, I understand they're like, they might even be doing it at course key or whatever. They are. Make sure. Yeah. They're not in our building. Yeah. tucker although amora i've met and she's she is a wonderful person she's awesome but they i understand they're like they might even be doing it at chorus key or whatever they are make sure yeah they're not in our building yeah that shows that you guys are in hamilton when you record yeah we're live actually we do this show from mike's basement every morning no one knows that he produces for us it's great uh mike mike richards is on a show that's called it's mississauga station cknt it's a little am station and they

record that in etobicoke yeah yeah and listen a lot of but to be fair like a lot of stations there's other stations out there that are toronto stations actually have their licenses in orangeville and their station 103 yeah exactly people have been doing this for a long time why is it brampton station yeah exactly so this isn't like it's not so out of the way. No, I know, but they don't. But I feel like I'm just happy that you guys are not denying your Hamilton roots. I think Hamilton's a cool city. I love Hamilton,

to be honest. And once you actually get to Hamilton, meet the people, meet how loyal they are to that city, it's amazing. And the CFL, the Hamilton Ticats have the best fans ever and i i believe it oski wee wee and i do think our show could play anywhere though so if you're in toronto you're still going to enjoy the morning grind because it's the stories we talk about in hamilton affect

everyone they just happen in hamilton and we also cover entertainment news and apps and we have one of the most dangerous games in live radio called Confession Session, where we take live confessions every morning. And that goes down to $7.50. I pretend to be a priest. It's real weird. Wow. Yeah.

We do that without a delay. We're like tightrope walkers without nets. How many swear words were dropped on our show yesterday? I don't know what you're talking about. Exactly. That many. That many. Wow. okay so uh things are going well and you can't really consider a station like q107 competition because it's in the family like you're in the same club or whatever and in 102 not that you guys play the same kind of you guys are much harder or whatever but uh

102.1 is in your family so really you're gunning at, it sounds like you're gunning at hits. And is there any overlap between listenership, I took it from Scruff, between you guys and The Rock and Oshawa? I don't know. I don't think you should. Yeah, you can't really. Listen, we're trying to be the number one morning show in the country. So this is what we do.

There isn't. Watch out, Maureen Holloway. There isn't, we're not. Watch out Maureen Holloway. Yeah, exactly. I want to watch out Maureen. Also, sup girl.

That's what we're trying. That's what we were trying to do. And it's not about, like there is a competition. There's a competition between us and other, other, every show, whether we're sister stations or not.

It doesn't mean that we wish them well. We just want to be number one. And then the core stations to be number two, three, five that's what we're doing that's the last tough question on this uh and then you'll have a chance to do final thoughts like you're jerry springer or something here but uh john derringer ever heard of him yeah yeah all right he's a legend i recognize he's yeah i would yeah he's definitely legend for sure he's done some great radio work in this market beloved by many

and he signed a very lucrative 10 year deal and I got out my Dusty Old Calendar and I figured out this deal's coming up okay so

we all know that the and maybe you know this better than anybody but the money they were paying for morning shows 10 years ago

is different it is a little different oh it's a tad yeah I drove here in my piece of crap Kia by the way I don't know if you noticed this for morning shows 10 years ago. It's a little different. It is a little different, Mike. Oh, it's a tad, yeah. I drove here in my piece of crap Kia, by the way. I don't know if you noticed this, but when Mike offered me the lasagna,

I wept. Yeah. First of all, Chris, did you see the car that's in the driveway outside this house? It's a rusty 1999 Mazda Protege. So don't, I wish I had a nice car like you. What kind of bike do you have, though? I have multiple bikes too.

They're not that expensive. Oh, these mountain bikes are expensive though. No, no, no. Those are hybrids. I would say that one is $800 and that one is $1,100, which is the most I've spent for a bike in my entire life. Okay, but I got a lot of bikers, like biker buddies, who you don't buy a full bike you buy a frame

so it's $1100 frame well i buy a $300 piece tires all of it uh was no those prices that's for the whole bike mike also secretly drives around in a silver car like the monopoly man but but but but but but but when i need to, if I'm going to King and Young to record a financial services podcast, which happened this week, I bike with all my gear goes in a trailer and I bike it like, this is not just me going for like a little joyride. So like, like it's my, it's my, uh, the feeling would be mutual, uh, Don Cherry. Come on. So, um, okay.

How do we get here? Oh, yeah. So, John Derringer. Yeah. So, the million dollar a year deal, let's say it comes up and let's say they're like, oh, the new rate for our Q Morning Show, I'm going to make up numbers again, is the new rate is $100,000. And let's say that, let's say I made that up.

I know. That'd be amazing. Oh, God. What was that hard time? What are you talking about? Hey, guys. I work in round numbers because I'm not very good at math here, okay? That's why I have an accountant.

So let's say they part ways and have a big cake for John. Let's say this is coming soon. I can almost smell it. You know, the Roger Ashby style. There's going to be a cake for John. Thanks for the memory. Sort of like they did with...

Did you hear Andy Frost's kid got his first NHL goal? Andy Frost's son, Mark Morgan, is now in the NHL. Amazing. Right? So speaking of people Q has had a cake for and said farewell to. Andy Frost. Andy Frost. Listen to Gallagher and Gross save the world and you'll get a great Andy Frost. Andy Frost. Listen to Gallagher and Gross Save the World

and you'll get a great Andy Frost story from John Gallagher, who was his roommate for years. Okay. Speaking of the mighty Q. So John Derringer, yay. Thanks for what a wonderful career.

You're going to quote unquote retire now. Yeah. Why wouldn't they just take a great morning show that's already in the markets, close to the market, that's already under the chorus umbrella and slap that on Q107? Great idea. It's a fantastic idea.

If our program directors are listening, that's an absolutely beautiful idea. And you should look in Hamilton for a rock show. There's nothing wrong with that. We'll even offer Shauna to burst out of the cake. Yeah, I love doing that. She'll do it in a heartbeat. But you know what she won't do? She won't burst out of an egg.

Yeah, that is true. It depends on the heartbeat. You know what she won't do? She won't burst out of an egg. That is true. Depends on the offer. I think we'll watch something else. We can still get it to happen. We're going to do an extra just for patrons of Toronto Mike Patreon where we learn what happened in Mexico. That is the burning question from this episode, but you've got to pay extra

for that story. You've got to pay extra. I've done my part for you nice people to get you the Derringer gig, which I believe will be open maybe soon, unless he's willing to take a significant pay cut. But who knows what will happen. They don't tell me these things. You shouldn't do that, Derringer. Chris, any final thoughts or anything you want to share

with the Toronto Mike listenership, but it's been a pleasure to meet you. You have a great beard and you seem like a delightful, a funny young man. Thanks dude. Um, Hey, anyone who's listening,

uh, don't get off of the Toronto Mike podcast. He's an absolute gem. I like this guy, but if you are driving in the morning from six to 10, hit us up. One Oh 7.9. The last station on the FM dial give us a chance

if you like us keep listening if not fuck you then I don't care signal strong in all directions I've never sworn in front of a microphone before this is beautiful yeah you know what maybe before we do the final thoughts from you mentioned maybe we didn't even mention enough about

why 108 which like who else is on that station besides you guys? Nobody. There's the morning grind, 6 to 10, and then they replace at 6 and then on the weekends as well. And then we're also on the weekends as well. So it's 24-7, it's the morning grind. It's us.

Even the drive-home show is the morning grind. Yeah, there's a guy named Brian who produces it, the drive-home show, but it's the morning grind. No, Brian West, he's a great dude. There's also sometimes if Sean is away, we become the drive guys. Oh, yeah drive guys drive this is something that took off the morning drive it's just oh the morning drive we had to fill in for our afternoon guy one time because of a snowstorm so brian west was the afternoon guy the drive guy we they they're

like listen if you fill in in the afternoon we'll give you guys a hotel and we're like okay we're gonna party this is amazing so we created this these where the drive guys and the whole show is based off of like traffic how to keep your car on the road uh tips for driving in general just yell drive and the thing is anytime the word drive guys has said one of us has to repeat it and listeners are encouraged to call and yell drive guys but drivers love it so much we'll get phone calls from guys who'll just go drive guys and then yeah you'll hear a giant horn go off they love it we had a guy in a train call one time the hammer is a wonderful place we had a train whistle one time drive guys it was crazy i was amazing so okay so no one else is on this station just you guys pretty much

yeah shout out to uh you know there there's Brian West and Big Chris. Big Chris is our midday guy. So, yeah, great dudes. Is he a big guy? So, listen, when I first started radio, everyone in high school and college used to call me Big Z, right? So when I got there. Even though it's Zed.

It is Zed. Oh, my God. Is it Zed 103? No, but that's their mistake. Shut your mouth. Two wrongs don't make a right. Shut your mouth. It should be.

Well, Big Zed sounds dumb, all right? It does. Zed's dead, baby. Yeah, exactly. Thank you. Because it's related to the creepiest scene in the movie, Paul Fiction. Yeah, exactly.

And I got there, and Big Chris was there, and he's like, I'm Big Chris. I'm like, what's up? I'm just normal Chris. I'm not, what's up? I'm just normal. Chris, I'm not big Z because he was like a solid foot taller than me and an extra hundred pounds. So he's,

he's a big boy. Okay. Shauna. Yes. Uh, anything you want to say with us before we, uh, hear some lowest of the low?

Um, I just want to say thanks for having us. This has been a lot of fun. I enjoy hanging out. What did you expect? Because I know only Jay was familiar with the show show i would guess i know i was i'm definitely been watching i mean well but but when you've when when jay because i said jay you guys should come on and then he said hey there's this this guy of a podcast who said we should come on

is that the first time you learned i exist oh no absolutely no i follow along and you know colleen who's my favorite person. Colleen Rusholm. She's my favorite. I love this woman. She told me once I look like Ted Danson. She told me. And I was like, holy smokes. She's blind.

And so she's very good on the air. I'm much younger than that. So of course I'd heard of it. And it was an honor to be here. And I really, yeah. And she's in Ottawa with Biggs and Barr now. That's right. Yeah. And they tweet each other and I don't like it. Why? I honor to be here and I really, yeah, thank you. And she's in Ottawa with Biggs and Barr now. That's right. Yeah. And they tweet each other

and I don't like it. Why? I don't know. I'm not like Jay. I don't believe in supporting each other. The interesting thing is Colleen's husband

remains here. I'm not, it's going to be tough. Speaking of Colleen too, I just want to say you are an absolute gem, Colleen, and you are one of the

greatest female announcers ever. I was so happy when she left the building. Boom. Colleen is the greatest female broadcaster we've ever had in the building. We love Colleen.

She is a gem. She might listen to this. She's definitely an FOTM. Big time. I hope she does. She's fantastic. All right. All three of you can shut up now.

Great lady. I'm just saying. She's so smart. She's so smart. You know, that's a fake name. Her name is not right. Yeah, we know. I get it.

I actually know her real name. Do you know her real name? Something German. Very German. That's true. Yeah, we know. I get it. I actually know her real name. Do you know her real name? Something German. Very German. It's true. And it's cold. So, please, I didn't mean to interrupt you, Shauna, there. But anything else?

No, not now that I'm not after all that. What did you expect? Is this what you expected? Or you're happy with how everything went? Yeah, absolutely. I think it was too much J, but otherwise, you know, I always think that. It was a lot of Jay. I can edit that out.

If you could take out all, like, you know, 70% of it. Yeah, she was expecting us to talk about Colleen a little more. No, I was not. Scissor me timbers. So much talk about the women you love. Who owns the boom that she's on?

Because two companies own boom. Is it Rogers? No, that's Chorus. That's Chorus too, yeah. She's still with Chorus. Interesting though. I find that interesting as a commoner,

as a layperson, a regular human being that Chorus owns Boom in Ottawa and whatever New Cap's owned by. Yeah, that is true. Who's that company? Remind me.

Who bought New Cap? Stingray? Yes. Stingray owns Boom in Toronto. That's strange to me yeah it is but there was a big news story in radio there's two powers i think power stations went at each other yeah i read that and uh they just need new radio names it's not that hard to get a new radio name either for god's sakes so they just keep recycling them i can look at your wall right now

and be like 101 the lumber1, the lumberjack. That's right. I'm going to pass a holiday gift. Dare I even call it a Christmas gift to Shauna. Wonderful. She needs it. Try to hear it. Here we go.

Oh, it's breaking. Because there's three of you. So there's three candles in there. That's courtesy of the Electric City Candle Company. Now, this is why I like to do this at the end of the show. They're not a sponsor of Toronto Mic, I should point out. They, they're special needs adults who make these candles and they sell them and all the proceeds goes

to their special needs hockey league. That's amazing. That's wonderful. It is truly wonderful. So I wanted to give a gift and it is a torn bag so don't let them fall but they're scented candles and they're actually really,

I got one called banana bread and it smells amazing. Oh good. I do that to the children. They're like, mommy, did you bake? I'm like, no, don't burn yourself on the wick.

How old are your kids again? Did you tell me? Five and 11. Five and 11. Oh my God. I have a five-year-old. We could get them together for play dates.

Okay, horrible. Do you think yours? Maybe yours is horrible. Yeah. All right. Boy or girl? Boy. Five-year-old. We could get them together for playdates. Okay, horrible. Do you like yours? Maybe yours is horrible. Alright, boy or girl? Boy. Five-year-old's a boy. ElectricCityCandles.com is where you buy these candles, and right now they're trying to raise money to buy a used van

for their travels, because they travel these hockey games. That's incredible. If you want to learn more about the Hockey League, by the way, ElectricCitySpecialNeedsHockey.com is where you can learn about the hockey team. And yeah, everyone gets a candle, stickers, beer, and lasagna. Dude, this is the best podcast I've ever done for presents, period. I'm listening and I'm thinking, three times all that? I think I paid you better today than you get from Chorus.

Well, definitely when I started, you paid me better. Still now. No, no, still now, I think. All right, before you depart, please leave your T4 slips. It's a copy of your T4. I need to know what's going on over there.

But what a pleasure. I enjoyed it. And safe drive. Don't let the guy who had all the Great Lakes beer drive. Sean is driving me. Absolutely. Cougar status. That had all the great legs be your drive. Shauna's driving me. Absolutely. Cougar status. That's right.

Lucky man, lucky man. And that brings us to the end of our 546th show. Now, this is where I learned your Twitter handles

because I have no idea. I'm on Twitter as at Toronto Mike starting with J. Are you on Twitter? Yeah, at the J Brody. The J Brody

and Shauna, are you on Twitter? Yeah, at ShaunaOnAir. ShaunaOnAir. And Chris Zed. At Chris Zed Radio. Yes.

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and eight years of tears And I don't know what the future can hold or do for me and you. But I'm a much better man for having known you. Oh, you know that's true because... I have to pee so bad.