Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Yacht Rock Jams: Toronto Mike'd #705
Episode Date: August 14, 2020This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out the best yacht rock jams with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....
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I'm Mike from Toronto,
Mike.com and joining me for this week's pandemic Friday,
where we kick out the yacht rock is Stu stone and cam Gordon.
Hello.
How are you?
Ooh.
What do we have here?
Hmm.
Cold open, I think.
Dedicating this to Mark Weisblatt.
Oh.
This is an FOTM.
I know who this is.
Who is it?
This is Christopher Ward.
This is called Maybe Your Heart.
It's by Christopher Ward. And Mark Weisblot wanted me to play it
because he says it's a CanCon yacht rock can con yacht rock classic wow absolutely what what a voice i
mean it doesn't really sound like the same guy yeah this is that's yacht rock
wait for the drop
so people listening think of christopher ward as a much music VJ.
He came from, is it the new music?
And then him and J.D. Roberts were like the first VJs.
And then he wrote a song called Black Velvet.
He co-wrote it.
Oh, just a song called Black Velvet.
A little song.
I feel like that's an Alan Cross.
It's like, oh, a little band from the Pacific Northwest.
And they wrote a song called Black Velvet.
And now you know the rest of the story.
No, no, no, don't.
By the way, Alana Miles.
Alana.
Alana.
Alana.
She's like, has some stuff, some medical stuff, if you like.
Did you, I feel like you got into this with Christopher Ward when he was on, did you not?
Well, I can tell you, before when I had that silly rule
that I only did episodes in person,
I was turned down because she was only doing phoners.
And now that COVID hit and I started doing Zooms and things,
I reached out again and I didn't hear back.
So I don't know if I blew my shot with Alana.
Alana Miles, yeah.
But I loved Black Velvet.
But Black Velvet's not Yacht Rock.
No.
No.
But you agree, Stu, this is Yacht Rock.
This is definitely, yeah.
Okay, so.
These are some silky sounds.
I noticed something unrelated to anything that we're talking about.
Yes.
You know, when Hebsey so eloquently does the introduction,
he introduces Stu Stone and Cam Gordon.
And I was just thinking that both of us as adults are using, you know, three-letter abbreviated
names.
That's right.
Stu, Cam.
You're blowing my mind right now.
So that's pretty cool, right?
That's, it's something.
Because when we met each other, we didn't, we had longer names.
Yeah, that's right.
We were more formal, interesting in our younger years.
As we've gotten older, we've loosened up.
Yeah.
I'm going to read a note I received just before this becomes 100% Yacht Rock.
I received a note from a Carlo.
Carlo listens to Toronto Mike, loves the Pandemic Friday episodes.
What up, Carlo?
Hello, Carlo.
Carlo says, Mike, I am with a guy who lives on Kirby Road.
Uh-oh.
He is not happy with Stu because people constantly come up to his very remote house looking for ghosts.
Yes.
He goes, this is a true story.
That is true.
Really?
Give it some context.
Well, there's a street called Kirby Road that when we were, when Cam and I were going by longer names,
people would drive out there to Kirby Road
to find this haunted house.
There's kind of a really funny story behind this.
Oh, there's Cam cracking.
What did you crack open, Cam?
I've got the octopus, as always.
Oh, I do too, so I'm going to open up my octopus as well.
Cheers.
Let's do your Dollarama.
Sure.
Shout out to my mom, Trudy, who's watching.
She's a first-time viewer.
She's watching. Hello, Trudy, who's watching. She's a first-time viewer. She's watching.
Hello, Trudy.
Yeah.
Welcome to Pandemic Friday.
This is only the 22nd episode of Pandemic Friday.
She'll catch up.
Smile.
She'll catch up.
So we did this movie called The Haunted House on Kirby Road,
which was loosely based on the legend of Kirby Road.
We wrote our own sort of tale of what goes down on kirby
road but uh yeah that's a real street and there's really it's it ended up sending people to down to
kirby road and you know teens looking for something to do at night uh much like they do in our film
uh going to kirby road looking for a haunted house that that maybe, who was it that wrote in?
Carlo.
Carlo.
You almost said Omar.
I almost did.
He'll be here later.
Carlo, his neighbor may, or his friend may be,
he may have a haunted house.
There are haunted houses on Kirby Road.
Where, where, is it in Stouffville?
It's just, yeah, I just, it's north of Thornhill.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's a little out there.
Where can somebody, do you know where someone could watch?
Kirby Road?
Yeah, today.
They can watch it wherever.
It's on demand on Rogers.
Super Channel has it on demand.
And I'm sure it's like on those torrent sites at this point.
Well, I tried to find the Boys Club.
The Boys Club.
And I couldn't find it on a torrent network.
Unsuccessful.
I couldn't find it anywhere.
It's okay.
But I really wanted to see it.
Like, I was sold on it.
He did a great selling job a couple of episodes ago.
You know, we'll get there.
Do you have any updates in terms of upcoming Stew Stone project?
Sure, yeah.
Actually, I was going to share with you today when we're done.
I was going to share with you the trailer so that you could watch it with your eyes before everybody else.
I was going to share with you the trailer so that you could watch it with your eyes before everybody else.
But I can tell you that before I have the authority to sort of get more elaborate with our new movie,
I can say that our new film will be premiering in October on Hollywood Suite.
So that is part of your cable package.
You may or may not have it. How do we get a cameo in a future project?
You know, anything's possible.
Mike and Cam are just in the background.
I was going to say, yeah, but this one does have a pile of GLB cans, right?
Oh, that's true.
More than that.
And at the end credit, is there a thanks to Toronto Mike?
Because I put you in touch with Great Lakes.
You'll have to see if it's possible.
Thank you, Michael Boone.
It might say that.
Really?
It might not, though.
I don't know.
You'll have to wait.
No spoilers.
Okay.
Before, again, I want to...
Can we talk about Kamala?
Yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
Let's talk about Kamala now.
Do you have his music?
I didn't know there was...
Kamala theme.
You looked that up.
It's one of my favorites.
Yeah.
But yeah, for those that are unfamiliar,
the name Kamala Harris was in the news twice this week.
Once for sad reasons, which once this song starts playing, we'll be able to get into it.
There's tribal beats coming up here.
Yeah, there it is.
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
God, like what?
We say this too often, but like one of the greats of like our childhood, really.
I really, literally, for those that don't know, Kamala was a professional wrestler
who had a huge impact on the wrestling scene in the 80s and early 90s.
A 450-pound Goliath of a man wearing a tiger skirt
painted like a savage
Ugandan headhunter. That's right, and wearing
black bicycle shorts
underneath when he'd go flying
through the air.
Easily one of the most gifted
performers
in the history of pro wrestling
based on the fact that as a kid
watching wrestling growing up i
believed that this man really was the ugandan headhunter his interviews and everything i
believed he didn't speak english i believe i totally bought everything that he was selling
you fell for the word i knew that wrestling was a was there was something up with wrestling
but kamala he had to be real it was one of people. Well, he was allegedly, who's the dictator?
Idi Amin?
Yes.
He was allegedly Idi Amin's savage bodyguard.
I think when he showed up in Mid-South with Jerry Lawler and people,
that was his gimmick.
It's like, we've gone and we've brought this man to kick Jerry Lawler's ass.
We've roamed the earth and we've found Kamala.
So people know this is a WWF wrestler.
Yes.
Just want to make sure that not everybody speaks wrestling.
Anybody that speaks wrestling will know that at the Maple Leaf Gardens in 1986,
Kamala and Hulk Hogan sold out the garden a few times.
That's right.
Were you at?
For sure.
I was at the Steel Cage match, which was fucking awesome.
Yes.
It was great.
So Hogan and Kamala, Maple Leaf Gardens, big part of that scene in the height of WrestleMania type of era.
Stu, you probably have seen this before.
I saw a GIF circulating of Kamala with very little effort doing a huge scoop slam on the giant.
I saw that.
And then did his belly slap.
He slapped his belly.
He painted a star and a moon on his...
See, this is actually a wrestler I remember
because in my little window, he's in that window.
He was the best.
Yeah, he was very memorable.
Also, there were some good outtakes with him
in Mean Gene.
He seemed, by all accounts,
was just a great great guy too.
He's from, I think, Louisiana.
So he had diabetes
and he ended up losing both of his legs.
And so he was confined to a chair,
obviously a tough last stretch of his life,
but always maintains
like a really positive attitude
in the interviews that I'd seen with him.
And I know Vice,
I think it was Vice,
did a little piece on him.
Yeah.
A bar stool or one of these kind of places.
I think you're right.
And yeah, it would show up like periodically, I feel like during the attitude era.
Sure.
Would do like kind of run-ins or like little skits and stuff.
So RIP Kamala.
One of the greats.
Jim Harris.
And of course, Kamala James Harris.
Jim Harris.
Another Kamala Harris.
Kamala James Harris, Jim Harris, another Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, historically
being named Joe Biden's
vice presidential
nominee, I guess.
Nominee. That's the word.
That's pretty cool. Yeah, absolutely.
That's fantastic. Big week.
Now, I was trying to think all week.
I've been thinking, how do I frame this?
I want Stu to start this episode with
a bit
of a definition because I know personally I spent all week immersed in yacht rock and some stuff I
thought was yacht rock but I don't think this is yacht rock no this is my point so this song is not
yacht rock okay and I even know that but I want to know okay so this is a song you probably know by the Eagles. This is Hotel California.
In a nutshell, what makes this not yacht rock?
I know that's a bit of a double negative there.
I feel like this is more of a rock rock.
It's teetering on yacht rock because of its cool groove and whatnot. I feel like this is more the California sound.
Which is basically yacht rock.
Well, yes
and no. I don't know.
I want to hear Stu's definition.
Do you want me to play another Eagles song?
I do. Sure, because this is not yacht rock.
No, but that was my point.
Most people say that the Eagles are not yacht rock.
I don't think they are.
They're a rock band.
They look like a rock band.
However, this is Yacht Rock.
And this is the Eagles.
And this is the Eagles.
Same band, two songs.
One's Yacht Rock and one's not.
Yes.
This one is absolutely Yacht Rock.
Did Beck sample this for where it's at?
It sounds so...
I don't know, but it's such a good song.
And I'm so happy you played it.
Did I have a choice, too?
No.
This is Yacht Rock right here.
That's the bass player singing.
He wrote the song.
This is his only kind of hit song.
And this song is called I Can't Tell You Why.
I Can't Tell You Why. I Can't Tell You Why.
Excellent.
Now, you're a well-spoken, eloquent individual, Stu.
Tell us succinctly here
what makes this yacht rock?
I'll tell you what makes this yacht rock.
Right here.
Right here.
So breezy.
So good.
It's great.
Listen, there's a lot of different ways to sort of describe Yacht Rock,
and I'm aware, obviously, the term that we all now use as Yacht Rock stems from a web series called Yacht Rock
that playfully sort of recreated potential ways
that these songs and stuff would have come about.
I don't know if you've seen it.
I'm aware of it.
It's sort of like drunk history.
So they coined the phrase.
Well, that's where it comes from, from them.
So before that, you know, this would have just been called soft rock, light rock, dentist chair rock, grocery store rock, you know, smooth FM.
Easy listening.
Easy listening.
Just general waiting room.
Light FM.
But not all easy listening is yacht rock.
No, no.
That's right.
So the number one thing, well, there's a few things that define really yacht rock for me.
But overall, for me, I grew up on MTV and then in the 90s on hip hophop and grungy and all that type of stuff.
So to me, this music didn't really talk to me until I was older.
I refer to this sort of as the goat's cheese of music
because you really hate goat's cheese as a kid,
but then as you get older, you're like, oh, this is good.
So I think that this is really where it's exciting for me
because it's like a whole new world that has opened up of stuff that I was aware of.
But once you really sort of dig around, it's really crazy.
The last era of music where the musicianship mattered ahead of anything else is this era.
Because MTV comes in right at the end of Yacht Rock, and then the focus becomes on finding superstars.
And it's not about how your musicianship
is, it's how sexy are you
and how do you look in a video. So,
Video Killed the Radio Star essentially
is a profound song because
it literally killed Yacht Rock.
Buffalo sunk. Buggles.
And it's a cover.
I was going to say, like, Video
sunk the Yacht Rock.
Yeah, it did. I mean, you got all these ugly musicians on the radio playing Yacht Rock,
and then MTV comes around.
Even a guy like Steve Perry, who is the lead singer of a very, very popular band, Journey,
they couldn't catch a break on MTV.
Yeah, yeah.
And that probably caused them to break up.
You know, I don't know.
I wasn't there.
Thanks to Alan Cross cross i will say this
the stuff that i have to brother bill he's watching the stuff that i like about it well first of all
you know just being a musician in in and around studios myself those the session guys that i
grew up with in the industry so to speak they all were playing this stuff all the time. So I was just exposed to it constantly,
and you sort of start to appreciate the musicianship.
And this is something that hopefully we're going to be able to fact-check
throughout the episode, but there's about 10 guys
that were the top, top session musicians in Los Angeles at the time
that sort of banded
together and were like, you know what? Fuck this.
Let's just start our own bands.
And that's sort of how Yacht Rock sort of
happens. And you'll see the personnel
on a lot of these songs are all
the same kind of guys floating around the
sessions. I made like a shitload of money.
Oh yeah. Like just piles of
cash. So if I may, like a yacht is a
very well crafted marine vessel.
Out on the seas.
But I think like the yacht rock guys, they coined the term not necessarily for that.
I think it's more of the funniness of like rich guys on yachts doing plates of cocaine out at sea listening to this music.
Kind of yuppie scum.
I wondered if it had to do with this jam here.
So I'm just going to play another jam
that none of us are actually kicking out tonight.
Okay.
And I already know that this is the epitome of...
So I thought maybe this song,
which is called Sailing,
was the origin of the term yacht rock.
If you can close your eyes listening to any of these songs
and imagine yourself on a yacht
with a glass of champagne.
Can we do that?
Can we?
Let's take 45 seconds.
You just did a big rail of cocaine.
You've got models there with you.
Oh, like Tom Vu.
I totally get it now.
Oysters chilling.
Oysters are being served.
Maybe you're making love.
Shh.
Hold on a moment. So good.
You'll notice harmonies are a big part of Yacht Rock as well.
Smooth.
Brian Masters, CHFI FM 98.
Or as Cam links to say, Don Jackson.
Don Jackson? Don Jackson.
People used to, like, poke fun at this stuff.
Oh, I used to poke fun at this stuff.
Yeah, and now I listen to it and it's like, I wish, I love it.
It's so good. I think also if you, like, go on Spotify and you listen to just some, like, indie rock playlist of, like, people, like, we've heard, like, kind of Sufjan Stevens and Jose indie rock playlist of people.
We've heard Sufjan Stevens and Jose Gonzalez
and artists in this ilk.
Definitely taking a lot of cues from this music.
And to Stu's point, I think these guys were shit-hot players too.
The music is very musical in its own way.
Oh yeah, that's the other thing I was going to say.
So Yacht Rock, in a lot of ways,
is that era's answer to prog rock.
I call this prog pop in a lot of ways.
Not this specific song,
but a lot of songs have really high-level
musical things happening in the songs.
A lot of sophistication in the music.
Yes, stuff that you wouldn't find in typical pop music.
So I like to call it prog pop in a way.
Oh.
But it's really, really great.
And, you know, in this era of digital music and digital everything, you know,
people, documentaries have had a huge resurgence because of Netflix
and people are just seeking out, watching documentaries and seeing us.
I think this music is the same.
People are just digging it, finding it.
I like researching it. So when I People are just digging it, finding it.
I like researching it.
So when I'm listening to the songs,
me and my brother-in-law, Brad, shout out to him,
big yacht rock guy too,
we'll sit in the backyard and we'll just play songs.
Is he 5'7"? No, he's 5'6".
But we're looking up, he plays the song,
and I want to see who played on it.
I want to see the personnel.
I want to know the story behind it.
And you're bringing this knowledge. This vast
knowledge is here tonight. I'm
like a sponge, man. I'm going to absorb
all the info. I feel like a
10-part Netflix docu-series
about Christopher Cross alone would be fascinating
because he was
the biggest deal in the world for about
three years.
What are you going to do with the other nine episodes?
You know, it comes back to his origin story.
Can I give my own definitions of what I think?
Oh, please.
I think Stu nailed a lot of the key aspects of it.
For me, I feel like DocRack is very era-specific too.
I have here, I say 1974 to 1984,
but even pinpointing more 78 to 83
78 to 82 is the point
I said more CHFI and less
Chem FM
just roll that around on your tongue for a second
dentist goes to that saying
generally US artists I think
I do feel like there's some British artists
but I do feel like most of the artists
a lot of guys with beards.
A lot of bearded singers.
Christopher Cross is an exception.
Beards had a 70s moment, no doubt.
For sure.
And I think this is an important point.
Are there a lot of great doc rocks sung by females?
Yacht Rock.
Yacht Rock.
What did I say?
Doc Rock.
Which is cool too.
We're kicking out those next week.
On Shopify you listen to... There's a handful but it. We're kicking out those next week. Yeah. On Shopify, you listen to this.
There's a handful, but it seems to be a pretty male-dominated category.
I think stuff like-
Who is the preeminent woman yacht rocker?
Well, I mean, a lot of people would argue that Fleetwood Mac isn't yacht rock, but there's
a few songs that would qualify, and Stevie Nicks is a very talented, you know, she wrote
a lot of those songs.
She's not just a pretty face, so to speak.
I was going to say Carly Simon,
but I feel like she's her pre-Yacht Rock.
They're both sort of on the edge.
If I may chime in here,
I'm looking to Stu for your expertise.
I feel like this is your week to shine.
I feel like we've built up 22 weeks for this moment.
To me, the best female Yacht Rock song ever
would have been that song that we kicked out a few weeks ago,
which is that Barbra Streisand, Guilty,
with Barry Gibb.
That's yacht rock.
And that's, you know.
Okay.
So again, I took this very seriously
because I wanted my five jams to matter.
We saw the 20 GIFs that you tweeted out this week.
I never promoted a pandemic Friday
as hard as I did this one.
By the way, 1236 is just like chomping at the bit
for this episode.
Well, that's why I shouted him out right off the top so he doesn't have to wait. By the way, I wrote him. like chomping at the bit for this episode. Well, that's why I shouted him out right off the top,
so he doesn't have to wait.
By the way, I wrote him.
He doesn't follow anyone on Twitter,
but I did hear his tribute that he did to Jack of all trades and whatnot,
and I reached out and told him how much I appreciated that.
But he's a very lovely guy for doing that.
No, thank you.
You're a man.
For you, Stu, anything.
Come on, anything. You're a key part of the fotm universe here now okay so i want to just disclose that i struggled i did struggle like i i thought
i had a handle on what yacht rock was and then tyler campbell the am i allowed to say the vp of
sales he tipped me off to yacht or not oh yeah it's like a website yeah and then it's like i disagree with a lot on
okay well so and i and he said oh this is a great resource so you can know and a lot of stuff i
thought was yacht rock wasn't and originally i'll say we are going to kick out these jams i took it
very seriously but i had a uh i had uh sarah smile oh that's a good okay okay and then yacht or not
i think it does qualify i think blue-Eyed Soul does qualify.
Because it sounds like this is where it gets a little gray.
I'm going to be interested in you being a definitive source on this.
A little murky.
A little murky.
Because Hall & Oates being a lot of sources I read said Hall & Oates or Not.
Yacht Rock.
They can get played there.
I can't go for that.
That's Yacht Rock.
What about Rich Girl?
That's not.
So what makes Sarah Smiles Yacht Rock? Okay can't go for that. That's Yacht Rock. What about Rich Girl? That's not. So what makes...
Sarah Smiles Yacht Rock.
That's the one I had on my list. I killed it.
I think that Hall & Oates
are part of the origin
of Yacht Rock. I think
that the success that Hall & Oates
had with that Blue Eyed Soul
sort of stuff, I think
that that influenced a lot
of guys to change their sound to sort of do what those guys were doing. So I think that that influenced a lot of guys to change their sound to sort
of do what those guys were doing.
So I think that they do deserve a mention.
And I don't think that, I think Hall & Oates has lots of songs that qualify as Yacht Rock
for sure.
Spoiler alert, you won't hear any Hall & Oates today.
You probably won't.
But Sarah Smile is definitely a seed, an early seed.
A man eater.
But I got all turned around.
Maybe I was, maybe because I,
maybe I gave too much credence
to yachtornot.com.
And then things I thought were yacht rock,
I was finding that were not.
And things I didn't think were yacht rock
were yacht rock.
Bottom line is I picked the five.
I think they're yacht rock,
but you'll let me know.
Like I'm looking forward to hearing that.
I picked a song that's not yacht rock. That would be fun. Like I picked a YouTube song last week. I got a're Yacht Rock, but you'll let me know. I'm looking forward to hearing that. I picked a song that's not Yacht Rock. That would
be fun. I picked a YouTube song
last week. I got a lot of flack for that.
That was awful. You're lucky
we even came this week.
I feel like Stu demanded he was going to do
Zoom this week out of almost like a protest.
I made it worth your while because I got
a delivery today of
Palma Pasta Las Orellas.
Both of you. You're not going to have to share. I didn't make younas. Oh, baby. Both of you.
You're not going to have to share.
Oh, that's baby.
I didn't make you share last time, right?
Or two times ago, right?
We just busted it over
and he liked Bo Jackson.
A couple of criteria
that I did pull up
that I wanted,
like official kind of criteria.
Yes, please.
So,
the song has to have
high production value.
Well-crafted.
It has to be well-crafted.
I like that term for a yacht.
It's well-crafted. As far as the personnel
on the song, it had to
have used elite
studio musicians.
Sorry, I love Stu just as you're running
on this like you're Palma Pasta.
Just like ambush.
You were about to start the show.
I was going to fake a few others.
Let's finish this.
You're going to hear a lot of electric piano.
Oh.
I got one inside.
People were putting their guitar down and picking up the roads
and the electric piano a lot.
Tickling the ibers.
I don't want to spoil anything else,
but at the end, I'll give you
my Hall of Fame rundown
of the true Yacht Rock Hall of Famers.
This is the definitive Yacht Rock episode.
This is amazing.
I'm so like, I got to pinch myself.
Yeah, the Ben Rayner episode is one thing, but this Yacht Rock.
But you know, one day we'll have to do like a hip hop episode or something to express,
or you know.
Yeah, right after we kick out the FOTM jam.
Sure.
That's my dream.
We each come with our five favorite songs by FOTMs.
I think that would be wonderful.
But here, so there is a lasagna for you guys.
There's beer on the table.
Cam and I have already cracked open
Octopus Wants to Fight.
We love that IPA.
It's available year round.
So thank you, Great Lakes Brewery.
You guys are fueling this Yacht Rock episode
of Toronto Biked.
I want to thank Austin Keitner
for his fantastic support over the last nine months.
You know, another thing about Yacht Rock.
No, I'm just kidding.
That's fine. Listen, this is your show. You know, another thing about Got Rock. No, I'm just kidding. That's fine.
Listen, this is your show.
Stu, this is your show today.
We're good.
Not your stow.
It's your show.
So if you want to contact Austin from the Keitner Group
with any questions about Toronto real estate
or actually GTA real estate,
text Toronto Mike to 59559.
Today, I don't know if you guys were on it, but I was
co-hosting a webinar with Barb
Paluskiewicz today. Oh. And
we did a webinar.
I could use your help. For CDN Technologies.
I sure could use your help.
Actually, it sounds like
you are having some network issues,
some computer problems.
If you are like Stu and you've got some
problems of that nature,
call Barb at 905-542-9759.
They're your outsourced IT department.
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542.
Uh huh.
9759.
And it was fun doing the webinar.
Uh, it's not something I do usually,
but,
uh,
she enjoyed my company so much.
I'm invited to be co-hosting another webinar in September.
So I'll give you details about that.
Wait a minute.
Who is this?
Sweet Morgan.
Kamala.
Love you.
But if you unplug the show,
the city will,
what would they do if the Yacht Rock episode
was accidentally unplugged?
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That's where you download the Garbage Day app for curbside collection notifications.
Fun and free.
Do that up.
And StickerU.com, of course.
That's been a wonderful partnership.
And we should get like Pandemic Friday stickers made up by StickerU.
I think we absolutely should get on that.
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actually on your ticket. Okay. Without further ado, I can't. I'm so excited.
By the way, before we start, who did the fan art last week? The Pandemic Friday fan art.
Was that TO resident?
No, it was a gentleman named blair
blair okay monica you went and you're in the camera shot here what's going on here she made
her cameo up here last week it was kareem speaking of a fat blush shout out to um monica's uh printer
printed something for me thank you she's looking for something are you looking for carlton the
bear okay she's looking we're gonna move on have Yacht Rock to kick out here, babe. No distractions, please.
You know, if you want to listen to this song,
if you want to listen to this music,
maybe draw a bath.
Pour a glass of wine.
Good idea.
Do a little coke.
Epsom salts or no?
Yeah, a bath bomb.
Sure.
You know, get in there.
Smoke a little doobie in the tub.
Oh, yes.
Drink a big glass of,
I would think in a yacht rock,
it's more of a champagne and OJ.
I was going to say like a rosé or something.
A nice rosé.
I was thinking rosé too.
A nice sparkling pink.
And, you know, just get comfortable
because this is going to be smooth.
It's going to be sensational.
And 15.
I want to put in bonus jam too,
so technically 16.
It's going to be sexy.
So let's kick out Cam Gordon's first Yacht Rock Jam.
Oh, this better be good.
I'm actually not sure this is yacht.
This is probably my most controversial thing.
I think it's very controversial.
I can't wait to hear Stu tell you to F off.
I mean...
Yay or nay, Stu?
I mean, it does have that island vibe,
but it's like yacht rockies,
vacation music that you would hear on an all-inclusive resort during the day in the pool does qualify.
Roxy music is not Yacht Rock.
Yeah, this is more of a, it does have a tropical vibe, but.
Yeah, big, big wedding song back in the day.
Yeah, this is Roxy music.
You had so many songs to choose from.
It's just shocking.
Wait till you hear it.
I'm going to kick out Hero of the Day as my Yacht Rock song.
I was going to say, it's funny.
I said, oh, it's mainly American bands.
Let's start with a British band.
You son of a coal miner, Brian Ferry.
But it's hard because this is a great song.
I think we would agree.
No, I agree with that.
I'm going to agree.
I think Avalon is a great song.
Yeah, and Roxy Music, I don't know, I'm...
But it's a disappointing start to the Yacht Rock.
Oh, yeah. It's all up here for me.
Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
It's just disgusting.
Okay, so it's not... Okay, is this
breezy? It is breezy. I think it's breezy.
It is breezy. I said it.
There's an electric piano on it.
It does have sort of a
tropical vibe, like I said.
If you could be laying
in a pool at an all-inclusive
resort. Like you're in Club Med
in like 1985.
What's on the sound system?
So Sway Hands Up is Yacht Rock now?
Not really.
No, that's...
But if you were to rent a catamaran...
Well, you have CanCon coming up.
I sure do.
You might have an FOTM or two coming up.
This is on the top 100.
This doesn't crack the top 100 Yacht Rock songs.
Well, I will say there's some fierce debates online
whether late-period Roxy music,
of which this is, this came in 1982,
is Doc Rock.
Doc Rock or Yacht Rock? I'm like, this is, this came in 1982, is Doc Rock. Doc Rock?
Doc Rock.
What was it last time?
Shopify? Spotify? I don't know.
My man's seniors moment.
Okay, now listen, as the
moderator of this forum, I need to say,
I think if I were here kicking out
Roxy Music, Stu would be
kicking me out of my own podcast.
I think of all the Roxy music, Stu would be kicking me out of my own podcast. No, well, I think
of all the Roxy music
songs in the catalog, this is the
closest that... That's not the...
We were supposed to kick out Yacht Rock songs.
This is not.
Did you go to Yacht or not? Just for
curiosity. That's inconclusive.
I agree. I would give this
a...
I would give him a passing grade of like a 55 out of 100 or something like that.
That's a pass.
It's a pass, but it's barely.
Just barely, yeah.
But it's smooth.
Is this more?
It's smooth.
Like what was worse, me picking Hero of the Day from a YouTube?
That was arguably the worst pick.
Not arguably.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
Like, what was it?
Songs from movies and TV?
He insisted on doing this category so he could, like, get his YouTube song in.
For some shitty, like, Metallica song?
Like, with Wendell Clark, like, pirated Wendell Clark highlights?
Like, what's the matter with you?
Yeah.
That was disgusting.
Like, do people pay you for this?
No.
Like, to use your equipment?
Disgraceful.
Disgraceful.
Not to mention he picked two
songs from a television show.
The same show. There was no rule against that.
But still.
But still.
Unwritten rule.
Can I say one more thing about
Roxy Music? Sure.
I actually saw Roxy Music live. It was probably
the last time they played in Toronto in like
2003. In a yacht?
At the Molson Amphitheater. By the water. So played in Toronto in 2003. In a yacht?
At the Molson Amphitheater.
By the water. So there were yachts nearby.
But this is the only show I went to where
women threw their panties on stage.
Like they came on and
Brian Ferry's got the whole white tuxedo
and I think they opened with Remake Remodel.
I swear to God, people
throwing their panties. Were you one of them?
Did you throw your underwear?
You don't have that arm that cory yeah not anymore jesse barfield unless it was wet maybe sean dunstan okay i think this was a very poor beginning
because uh hear me out i think we had i saw the analytics it looked like we had about 2.4 million
people on the live stream okay now it's down to 28 people.
So I think they heard that, oh, this is bullshit.
Like Roxy Music.
Oh, yeah, Roxy Music sucks.
Terrible bands.
I think what has happened here is that that's an example of dock rock.
So the boat hasn't left to go onto the sea yet.
Is dock rock a thing?
Well, it is now.
That's songs that Cam picks that you play when the boat is docked.
There was like a CD
that you could order
from the TV
called Dock Rock
in the 90s
that had like
free all right now
like Black Betty.
Like cottage country jam.
Yes, exactly.
Dock in the Bay?
Lighthouse,
Sunny Days.
We should kick out
the dock songs.
Dock Rock.
Dock Rock, yeah.
Oh my God,
this is so confusing.
Okay, so let's kick out, let's right the ship here.
Yeah, let's right the ship with the musicians that are perhaps the most talented of all the studio musicians.
The original super group, assuming you're going by the order that I think you're going by.
Oh yeah, that's it.
What a setup.
Yeah, let's crank this because this needs to be louder.
Yeah, palate cleanse. This is...
We'll turn it up in a second when it gets to that horns part.
Oh yeah, just wink at me when you're ready.
A couple of the songs that you're going to hear from me this week,
I've already kicked out in previous appearances, just so you know.
But this is...
I have no problem with that.
You know, this is Toto.
Toto is a great way to get started because they are the legends of legends.
And the reason why I love Yacht Rock is because I accidentally went to a Toto show maybe six years ago
and couldn't believe how much it was, how the music, everything about it was so awesome that it changed my everything.
I went to a Toto and Michael McDonald concert.
This is a Stewstone Yacht Rock origin story.
And sorry, I know you talked about this before,
the sort of accidentally, but what's the story again?
How did you accidentally?
Well, I had tickets to go.
Someone gave me free tickets, like Steve Luthaker,
who's the singer and the guitar player in this song.
His son is like a friend of a friend,
and there was like free Toto tickets to be claimed.
So I went with my buddy
this is such a dope part
okay so it's very musical you know uh uh you know the pacaro brothers uh uh steve lucather
uh these guys are the key members
of Toto to pay attention to
they're going to be showing up all over the music
because these guys were the studio musicians
that came together to say you know what F it let's start our own group
they're on some Thriller songs too
yeah I'll tell you so these guys were studio musicians
they played together on albums for Steely Dan, Seals and Crofts,
the uncredited godfather of Yacht Rock, Boz Skaggs,
who if it wasn't for Boz Skaggs, there would be nothing
because Toto played on his records.
That's how they met, like the rest of them.
That's how they sort of figured this idea out.
Anyway.
Sorry, where was that?
Was that like Hollywood Bowl?
That show?
No, no.
They played.
Oh, that show was at the Greek Theater.
Greek Theater.
Yeah.
Very cool.
Anyway, these guys figured that out pretty quickly.
Steve Lukather, who's singing here,
he famously plays guitar on the song Beat It by Michael Jackson.
Not the guitar solo by Eddie Van Halen, but the rest of the song.
Great.
And, of course, the guys from Toto played on everything, man.
These guys played on the Chicago album that the band hated.
Toto is the band playing on the Chicago album with You're the Inspiration, all those songs.
That's Toto playing on that record. We've kicked that out, right? You're the Inspiration. Human Nature, Michael Jackson, written by Toto is the band playing on the Chicago album with You're the Inspiration, all those songs. That's Toto playing on that record.
We've kicked that out, right?
You're the Inspiration.
Human Nature, Michael Jackson, written by Toto.
Which I dig, yeah.
Sampled by Nas, I think.
Yeah.
I mean, these guys played with everybody.
Like, this is the breakdown.
Alice Cooper, Pink Floyd, Quincy Jones, Eric Clapton, Paul McCartney, The Eagles, Earth, Wind & Fire.
Wow.
Yes.
You know, these guys, they're famous for Africa and Rosanna and Hold the Line.
But to me, this is one of their best songs.
And what's the name of the song?
This is called Georgie Porgie.
And it's been sampled a few times.
And it's with Cheryl Lynn singing within there.
So there you go.
Georgie Porgie, Toto.
Toto, the first entry.
They deserve to be the first entry
because they are the legends of yacht rock.
I do like that hard out on Georgie Porgie.
Yeah, it was cool.
So Stu, when you're asked for your five top yacht rock songs,
I'm sure it's like, okay, you have some decisions to make.
You're probably at the top of your head.
There's 20 songs that you really love,
and what are your favorite five?
I worked harder on my songs for this week
than I have any other pandemic Friday.
Clearly more than last week.
That's for sure.
So I'm feeling encouraged by a name you dropped
about two minutes ago.
So here's my first Yacht Rock Jam.
All right.
Yeah, so here you go.
This is the man right here.
I think this is a great jam.
So right now, you're hearing electric piano.
Guys from Toto are playing with this guy.
So this is Chicago, right?
No, no, this is Boss Gags.
This is, wow.
This is the godfather of Yacht Rock.
Listen in the headphones. This is
well-crafted shit.
Love it.
Sounds like Aaron Neville.
It's like Blue-Eyed Soul.
A white guy.
This is a white guy?
Yeah. He was like Lito Shuffle. Yeah white guy. This is a white guy? Yeah.
He was like Lito Shuffle.
Yeah, Lito.
I love that song.
He sounds funky for a white guy.
He's incredible.
See, I would have rolled my eyes at Boz Skaggs.
I mentioned his name when I was younger,
and now I'm like, Boss Gag's sick.
So Stu,
you're okay with my pick?
Oh, that's an A+. Fucking, I feel good right now.
That's an A+.
Have I redeemed myself
for a year of the day?
You win this round,
as a matter of fact.
Holy smokes
For the first time ever
There's a tweet I want to read on that note
That came in from Cambrio
Of course
I'm going to read it verbatim here
This is the Stu Stone show
He goes hashtag FOSS
Yes friends of Stu Stone
Is that catching on FOSS
Well with Cambrio it is.
Forever!
But this is the line I don't love, okay?
His last, on this tweet.
Small Mike will try and
cheat. That's like a Trump
tweet. Small Mike
will try and cheat!
Sad.
Yeah, right.
Right.
I mean, if you just listen to the instrumentation and the music,
it's actual music happening.
It's not someone programming a beat like modern music is today.
Not to be like, oh, kids these days don't have good music.
But this is like the last era where the music actually mattered most.
Here's a serious question.
Like this song, I feel like this song in Your Last Choice,
Georgie Porgie by Toto,
like they both rock in a traditional sense
in their own way.
Like this is not,
I wouldn't call either of those songs soft rock.
Yeah, it doesn't,
like if we play Christopher Cross sailing,
there's a big difference between,
this is kind of a funky jam.
There's sort of an expression
that is used to describe it.
It's called the doobie bounce.
Okay. Tell me more about the doobie bounce. Well, you'll learn about it later on. Oh. But of an expression that is used to describe it. It's called the doobie bounce. Okay.
Tell me more about the doobie bounce.
Well, you'll learn about it later on.
Oh.
But, you know, it's like that doobie bounce.
There's stuff going on.
Stuff going on.
Yeah, no doubt.
And my ears dig it.
Like, when I was going through the piles of yacht rock I was exposed to the past week,
I'm like, and I got to plead ignorance.
I don't know much about boss gangs.
Neither of you two have a problem with the secondhand smoke.
It's fragrant.
It's legal.
Is that a cigar?
Is that a speaker?
You're right.
You never know when a guest will drop by.
I thought maybe Fitzy was going to be here.
Hey.
Oh, that's not allowed?
That's a nickname.
That's okay.
Mark Fitzpatrick? Yeah. Oh, good one. Good one. Is that that's not allowed? That's a nickname. That's okay. Mark Fitzpatrick?
Yeah.
Oh, good one, good one.
Is that a friend of yours?
That's a former goaltender.
Oh, he's the New York Islanders with Glenn Healy.
He's a Panther, too.
That's right, yeah, with the Beezer.
So now Cam, when he includes people we talked about on this week's show,
which I haven't seen you doing recently.
Yeah, I stopped doing that.
I don't know, yeah.
Maybe I'll just start doing like non-musicians.
Shout out to Mishimi,
who might get kicked out in the FOTM.
Let me kick out the FOTMs.
Oh, she might get kicked out.
I thought you meant she was going to get kicked out of the...
Screw.
I'm sorry if I worded that awfully, awkwardly.
But yeah, it's a well-crafted, nice piece of music here.
Boz Skaggs.
And I know nothing about him
he's got a great
catalog of stuff
and I
Cam mentioned
the Lido shuffle
what's his second
biggest hit
Lido is the best one
is that better than this
yeah probably
it's like Lido
oh
like it sounds more like
Thin Lizzy
or like
it's just like a bar song
it's like a bar song
I still would pick
this one here.
But this is awesome.
Now, Cam's got to redeem himself, I think,
after the Roxy music.
Cam is batting zero.
Okay, I will say that Roxy music
was probably my most provocative choice.
And you let off with it just to scare away the money.
I will say the rest of the songs were harvested from Yacht Rock.
We were like hyping this up for weeks.
You had an audience come and then he played the rock. I was running out of
yacht gifts on the
available to me on twitter.com
Anyway
I still think it was
sort of in the yard. It was a good
It's a good attempt
It was good for the conversation
Good for the conversation
Okay
Okay Now we're fucking talking Now we're talking Good for the conversation.
Okay.
Now we're fucking talking.
Now we're talking.
Little player.
Sure.
Even I know this is Yacht Rock.
This is dope as hell.
I've got a lot of facts about this song. I can't wait to hear them.
Awesome.
First fact I want to know is,
who's the artist behind this song?
Player.
I think a lot of people would be surprised.
They would think it was Eddie Money or something like that.
I don't know, but this is pretty awesome.
This is just, I'm so happy.
Finally, good music.
Thank you.
This is it.
It took 22 weeks to make Stu this happy. I know. Thank you. This is it. This is it.
This is it.
It took 22 weeks to make Stu this happy.
I know.
He's like, well, it's on Periscope.
Oh, your mom's watching now.
She'll be happy to see how happy you are.
Like the look on Stu's face.
I love this song.
You're going to be shocked how good this is, Mike.
Oh, I know this jam well. It was on a Simpsons
episode. Yeah, I mean,
more than that is.
Oh, spoiler alert. Okay,
give us some fun facts about this great jam.
This is Player, Baby Come Back.
It's funny, I was making my notes.
I had this written.
I don't know what's wrong with me. I keep on
screwing up names i had gary player
as the name like the golfer yeah and also a big don trump fan but enough about that um so this
is from 1977 this song actually was released seven days before i was born if you can believe
in him before sue stone was born because he's a bit younger than me there's no chance you were
conceived during this song i don don't know. Maybe I was
the contractions that started.
That would have been in a laboratory.
Yeah, so this was...
Which would explain a lot, actually.
Yes, that's how he's so smart and tall.
And handsome.
A lot of agar back then.
So anyway, October 13th, 1997, the release date.
This shouldn't be a shock.
Number one hit here in Canada, also in the US. Top ten in both
South Africa and New Zealand.
Amazingly, this was also a top
ten R&B song.
It's that Blue-Eyed Soul, which is pretty much
Yacht Rock. Blue-Eyed Soul is a little bit
controversial thing.
Like Dusty Springfield.
It's just like white guys doing soul music.
Oh, Bill Medley. It's no different
than...
Billy Vera and the Beatles. I guess modern day Blue-Eyed Soul, It's just like white guys doing soul music. Oh, Bill Medley. It's no different than like, you know,
Billy Vera and the Beatles.
I guess modern day blue-eyed soul controversially might be like, you know,
Post Malone.
I was going to say like Maroon 5, probably,
in some circles.
Well, I would even go as far as to say like white rappers.
Machine Gun Kelly?
Maybe. I don't know.
But a lot of soul here.
Third base.
By the way, this song, not to be confused with Baby't know. Okay. But a lot of soul here. Third base. By the way, this song,
not to be confused with Baby Got Back.
It sort of makes a lot.
The videos are very different.
Yes.
I was going to say I'm a player,
not to be confused with Big Punisher,
not a player.
I just crush a lot.
What's the Eddie Money song I'm thinking about
that has a similar title?
Oh, baby come back to me,
whatever will be. That's not Yacht Rock. That's not Yacht Rock. Yeah, so baby come back to me. Whatever will be.
That's not Yacht Rock.
That's not Yacht Rock.
Yeah, so Baby Come Back to Stu's Point is featured in a lot of TV shows, a lot of cartoons.
Also, there's, interestingly, the Wikipedia page references two parodies to do with the NFL.
So it says in 2011, there was a parody from a Chicago artist named Magic One entitled
Cutty Comeback.
Jay Cutler.
About Jay Cutler.
And then Smash Cut 5 years later in 2016, Peter Beckett performed a parody Brady Comeback.
And he's the actual singer of the band, Peter Beckett.
Oh, is that?
Okay.
So that makes sense.
So that was on the Colin Coward show.
That's a fun fact right there.
Because I don't know anything about player.
Yeah.
And okay, this is a good fun fact.
You probably have a lot of General Hospital fans in the FOTM universe.
There's a May 2014 episode of General Hospital.
Precocious Spencer Cassidy.
Very precocious.
Very.
Attempted to woo back Emma Scorpio Drake by hiring a player to perform a song at the Nurses Ball.
How funny is that?
MS Scorpio Drake by hiring a player to perform a song at the Nurses Ball.
How funny is that? You know,
General Hospital used to be
like a launching pad for a lot of hit songs.
Like a lot of songs
that came from General Hospital.
Like the TikTok.
Is that the show that had the Dream On guy?
Do you know where I'm going with this?
Dream Weaver.
Christopher Elliott?
Chris Elliott.
What's the dream on?
Woogie?
Brian Ben Ben.
No, because General Hospital was like a Billy Vera and the Beaters song was from General Hospital.
It was from Family Ties.
But wasn't it also on General Hospital?
No?
Maybe.
Or I've Been Waiting for a Girl Like You.
That's what?
Foreigner?
A great song too. Yeah, Santa Been Waiting for a Girl Like You. I've Been... That's what, Foreigner? A great song, too.
Yeah, Santa Barbara.
The California Sound, baby.
Yeah, the California Sound.
I think that's different.
That's not Doc Rock, though.
I'm not sure.
I hope this...
Now, Mike and I had some duplicates,
so I think I'm getting a crack at this now.
Jack Wagner.
Yeah, yeah.
And the other guy, of course, Rick Springfield.
Yeah, Rick Springfield. Of course. John Stamos was on General Hospital, I think. Was he? Yeah, speak. And the other guy, of course, Rick Springfield. Yeah, Rick Springfield.
Of course.
John Stamos was on General Hospital, I think.
Was he?
Yeah, speak of bonkers.
From the boys club, Dominic Zambronia.
Who am I thinking of with the dream on?
Hey, rock on.
Hey, kid.
Oh, Michael Damien.
Yeah.
He was young in the wrestling.
Young.
Okay, see, I don't watch the soaps.
My mom liked, what did she like?
Another World.
This was her soap. I liked A Different
World. Yeah. Dwayne Wayne.
Dwayne Wayne. Yeah, yeah.
Different World was great. And Aretha
Franklin did the theme song, if I remember correctly.
Which we should kick out theme
songs at some point. TV theme songs would be fun.
Why don't we make sure we get to that? Thank goodness
this pandemic isn't going anywhere.
Okay. Although the numbers
are trending in a
scary direction for you.
They're going in the right direction.
Crushing the curve.
All that will happen.
Oh yeah. Stew Stone entry.
This rocks a bit.
I just dropped the mic on this one.
You'll be okay. I'm on the yacht now, buddy. It's just like the disco wing of dark rock.
Like very danceable.
How dare you?
You mean Yacht Rock?
No, it's not that.
He's calling it dark rock.
It's Yacht Rock.
Yeah.
I mean, other than the musicianship here,
something else is going to make this song qualify in about five, four, three, six, even a second.
Just let it breathe here. Hey, it will come back to you. And you'll shut up for a while.
You'll see it all.
It's your favorite foreign movie.
All right.
So basically, if it's a well-crafted piece of easy listening soft rock.
This is basically prog rock here with these time signatures and the chord changes.
This is not. I'm sorry, is this Steely? This is Steely Dan. The with these time signatures and the chord changes. This is not.
I'm sorry, is this Steely?
This is Steely Dan.
The geniuses of Steely Dan.
Obviously, Michael McDonald, you'll be hearing from him.
The most prolific yacht rocker there is, Michael McDonald.
The inventor and maybe the perfector of yacht rock, Michael McDonald.
He's the king. If Boz Skaggs is the godfather, Michael McDonald is the king of yacht rock. And he obviously appears on this song
by Steely Dan Pegg, which is from their very successful career. I mean, Steely Dan qualifies as Yacht Rock all over the place. Jay Graydon
is going to play a guitar solo on here, and you're going to hear his name
a little bit later. But he is one of those studio
session musicians. This song was sampled by De La Soul. I don't know if you guys remember the song
I Know by De La Soul. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But interestingly enough, Becker and Fagan,
the two key musicians in Steely Dan,
these guys started their first band that they ever had together
before they became Steely Dan.
Their drummer was Chevy Chase.
What?
Yes.
Really?
Chevy Chase was their drummer.
Now, that's a fun fact.
That's a very fun fact.
When was this?
Like early 70s probably?
I guess so.
How these guys came to be, how Fagan ended up meeting Becker.
Fagan in an interview said that he was walking by, he heard a guy practicing his guitar who sounded very professional,
but it sounded very soulful and not unlike anything he'd heard before.
And he went and met the guy and said,
hey, do you want to be in a band?
They started the band, and here we are.
Steely Dan, who are incredible.
Who's no longer with us?
I feel like it's Walter Becker.
Becker, he's gone.
Becker's gone.
Sorry, not Samuel Beckett.
Okay, so here's some interesting things you need to know about the personnel behind the band here.
Oh, no, no, no.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I don't want to give it away.
I don't want to give it away.
Oh, you're going to save it.
I'm going to save it.
I'm going to save it.
But Steely Dan, Peg.
And, of course, that's Michael McDonald saying, Peg!
I think that's one of those, in my research anyways,
one of those definitive Yacht Rock tunes.
I'd say that's like a no-brainer.
It would be disgusting if we didn't play that tonight.
In fact, Stu and I were arguing over Who Got Peg.
Yeah.
You deserve it.
This is the Stu show.
Sorry, Who Got Peg?
All right, Peg.
Never mind.
Here's my second Yacht Rock jam. Okay. You deserve it. This is the stew show. Sorry, who got pegged? Who got pegged? Never mind.
Here's my second yacht rock jam.
Okay.
Yes.
Okay.
Man, we're going strong.
Go big or go home.
I'm already there. There's that electric piano
it's already checking all in that space breezy
you hear there's a lot of high end in the mix that creates that breeziness
that walking sort of like a you hear like a Oh, Ace.
Underrated, Jim.
Yeah.
Underrated, like, singer who had, like,
an incredible career.
Yeah, because he's in
Mike and the Mechanics.
Yeah, well, also saying...
Is that the singer
from Mike and the Mechanics?
Yeah, he also sang
and squeezed
Tempted by the Fruit of Another.
Is that, you know...
Same guy.
I think definitely underrated
because I don't think
it's a household name.
Wait, who is it?
Paul Carrick.
Huh.
And he also had the song
Don't Shed a Tear.
Don't shed a tear for me.
I know I was reading
like the wiki page
and they said Phil Collins
had him as like
one of the top ten vocalists or some kind. that's probably why his uh mike and the mechanics buddies chose him to be
mike rutherford that's right that's right and we've already you know early in our uh
early in our pandemic friday career we did the whole uh you know offspring of genesis
chat i think like the the the tentacles of that. Yeah.
So squeeze is tempted.
You're right.
Uh, how long?
So his big,
I guess his big hits that he would sing would be this one.
How long by,
uh,
ACE tempted by squeeze.
Uh,
he did the living years for,
uh,
Mike and the mechanics.
All I need is a miracle.
It is a miracle.
Is that the same singer All I Need is a Miracle
versus Living Years?
It might be different singers.
Well, Paul Carrick
also played with Pink Floyd
when they did like
The Wall
in the Berlin Wall.
Like a sneaky
almost like the poor man's
Phil Collins
which kind of understates like the
massiveness of paul carrick just someone we don't so here's a quote from uh the bbc dubbed him the
man with the golden voice but record collector remarked if vocal talent equaled financial
success paul carrick would be a bigger name than legends such as phil collins or elton john okay
i mean that's that's a fair comment.
But, I mean, he's no slouch, I'm sure,
his bank accounts between this track and all the Mike and the Mechanics stuff
and solo albums.
And this is a song, like, so, you know, I'm a tiny bit older than you guys,
but, like, growing up, you know, hearing, like, you know, radio,
this is kind of a jam that was always out there.
Like, I don't think I could have told you who sang this song
to save my life.
Yeah, because it's like
the band Ace
was a one-hit wonder for sure.
I think of Ace
the way I think of
Player.
Like, I mean, these are...
Stu and I think of
the Cowboy Bob Orton.
Yeah, Ace.
Had a broken arm
for like three years.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I know the cast.
Cowboy Bob Orton.
Yeah, he was buddies with Rowdy Roddy Piper.
Sure was.
His bodyguard is muscle.
Okay, I'm excited to kick out this jam by Cam Gordon because it's an FOTM.
So I opened.
Sure is.
I opened with Christopher Ward.
Is this going to be GV?
I didn't know Biff Naked had a Yacht Rock song, but we're going to hear.
Acid Test.
Yeah, GV.
That's what we're calling him now.
Here we go
that's Yacht Rock
it's like
there's like
prog rock
types of elements
to it
yeah
I can feel like
my chest hair
like growing in
like as I hear this
I like the Montreal yeah shout out to the Doughboys my chest hair like growing in like as I hear this.
I like the Montreal.
Yeah.
Shout out to the Doughboys.
Now I'm thinking of when he would just
break into a song
when I asked him a question.
Enough about black cars.
Can we get off
black cars already?
Get in the book.
I would say he like barked at you
Hey
This kind of has like a
Gibb Brothers kind of
vibe to it
This is a great song
Can I tell you
This is a great fucking song, Cam
Thank you
And is this
Doc Rock? Yes, no thank you and is this Doc Rock
yes no
Yacht Rock
can you stop
calling it Doc
you're ruining my
I've been promoting
the Yacht Rock episode
written by his brother
or something
yeah take it out
his brother was in
my basement too
his brother wrote
this song
your brother was like
his brother was like
cackling a lot
his brother loved
yeah his brother was
Ross
yes he was here
Ross is the guy that wrote this song so Ross Vanelli was like cackling a lot. His brother loved, yeah, was cackling. His brother was Ross? Yes, he was here. Ross is the guy
that wrote this song. So Ross Vanelli
was like the,
he was there to make sure that
my mic was set up properly,
that it was good. It's like a Mr. Saturday Night kind of
vibe there. You know what,
that's a surreal, that was a surreal episode
for me, Gino and Ross in my basement.
It was, did it happen? And I'm
listening to this in the headphones and I'm thinking, gorgeous song here we are beautiful Thursday night in Toronto and that
fucker was in my basement and like a guy who when he had this song and again we haven't even said
his name Gino Vanelli I just want to stop you don't need to say his name no from 1978 um yeah
like this was the number one song in Canada top 10 song in the US too
yeah we played the clip of Casey Kasem
kicking it out on America's Top 40
you sure did
and for comparison Black Cars
the beloved Black Cars only went to number 4 in Canada
and in the US actually went to 42
I didn't even know
yeah it wasn't a big hit in the States
yeah so Stu touched on this
so this song was produced by the three brothers,
Gino, Joe, and Ross, and written by Ross,
who, if you listen to...
And by the way, if you haven't listened to Gino Vanelli and Sean,
I'm like, what's wrong with you?
Like, what are you doing?
Go listen to it right now.
I feel like I listened to it multiple times.
Anthony Petrucci from Palma Paz
did listen to it multiple times,
and he said it got better each time.
Yeah.
Of course, this is the Italian Stallion, isn't he?
Oh, completely. Now, here's a trivia question for you guys. He said it got better each time. Of course, this is the Italian stallion, isn't he?
Oh, completely.
Now, here's a trivia question for you guys.
What was Gino Vanelli's only other U.S. top ten hit?
And again, it was not Black Cars.
I don't know.
Wild Horses.
That's a good guess.
I like that song.
Not just an emotional way.
He was playing that, too, in my basement. It was living inside of me.
Yeah, I can't remember that one.
You would know this.
I would know.
I mean, when I did the homework for the app,
I loaded up everything that touched the top 40.
Yeah, so anyway, Gino Vanelli.
So this is good.
At least four.
So we've got Christopher Ward, Gino Vanelli,
both FOTMs and a little CanCon.
Does Moe Berg have any Yacht Rock in his album?
She's So Young.
Oh, that clip went around and that was amazing.
Oh, and like the Mickey Mouse Club.
Yeah, that was amazing.
You shared it with me.
That's right.
And I said, this is unbelievable.
Yeah, I saw someone else.
I think it was Jill LeBlanc.
Is that that guy?
Yeah, Jill.
Yeah, with a G.
He's coming here to kick out Molson Park Jams.
Yeah, I feel like he retweeted the TPOH tweet.
But yeah, who knew?
Pursue Happiness was on the Mickey Mouse Club in 1989.
Yeah, it was really cool doing She's So Young.
Okay, Stu's like, what are you talking about?
No, I'm looking at your chat here.
I see other people are chiming in wild horses.
Wild horses, yes.
Oh, you know what?
Can you keep that open?
I know Ian. Well, lastes, yes. Oh, you know what? I never, can you keep that open? I know Ian.
Well, last week, Ian was very active there,
and he was disappointed that we weren't reading it.
I read the tweets.
You read that.
All right, let's kick out Stew Stones.
Okay, but before we kick this out, I need to preface this.
Okay.
I only learned about this band within the last couple of weeks.
This is a new yachtacht Rock experience for me
I had my mind blown
when I discovered this band
I didn't even know
they existed beyond a few weeks ago
and already I love it so much
that I have catapulted it into my five
songs
this so does not sound like Doc Rock
it's not Doc Rock
if you say it again I'm going to take your pasta, your lasagna away.
This is incredible stuff.
And like the masters at work type stuff.
So I want you to check this out.
CanCon here.
It's CanCon?
Well, technically, yeah.
I'll tell you why.
That's all that matters.
Is this David Foster?
Yes. Is it really? Yes. Wow'll tell you why. That's all that matters. Is this David Foster? Yes.
Is it really?
Yes.
Wow, you nailed that.
I'm impressed.
I thought it was the Calgary Olympics song.
It sounds like George Michael.
Yacht Rock. Some heavy piano.
Who's the vocalist here.
The horns.
Beautiful stuff.
This is a band, a super group, called Airplay.
They only had one album in 1980.
Jay Graydon, the guy who I mentioned earlier that did the Peg guitar solo,
is the guy singing this song.
David Foster, Jay Graydon, and the guys from Toto
combine to make this album.
That's a super group.
This is a super group.
Airplay.
Airplay is the name of the band.
They had two songs.
This was one of them.
The other one was called
After the Love is Gone
Which was covered by
Earth, Wind & Fire
And won Earth, Wind & Fire
The Grammy for
Song of the Year
You know the song
After the Love is Gone
Earth, Wind & Fire
After the love is gone
Oh this is like
The 80s ballad
Yes
It's still a good song
Yeah
Okay
David Foster
This is
Come on
It sounds It sounds like It belongs on this episode Was this is come on it sounds
it sounds like
it belongs on this episode
was this a hit
like this sounds familiar
I feel like I've heard this before
I had never heard it before
no
this is called
maybe this sounds like
a lot of other things
I honestly
I have the same feeling
I feel like
this is a no one song
but it's all
it's all these people
that we've heard are
yeah but it does sound like
Steely Dan
and Toto
and all these guys
it has like a Toto feel to it.
Nothing you...
It's called
Nothing You Can Do About It.
Nothing You Can Do About It
by a band called Airplay.
Notably,
rhythm guitars on this track.
A guy that shows up
all over the place
in Yacht Rock Sessions.
Slash.
Ray Parker Jr.
Oh!
Ghostbusters guy.
Ghostbusters guy
is actually
quite the respected
studio guy
on the guitar. Wow. And he ended up becoming Ghostbusters guy. Ghostbusters guy is actually quite the respected studio guy on the guitar.
Wow.
And he ended up becoming Ghostbusters guy.
But Ray Parker Jr. is one of the studio.
He's one of those Hall of Fame guys that you're going to hear.
Can I say a serious comment?
Yes.
This is why we do this.
For like learnings, key learnings like that.
Right.
Like that's amazing.
And you know what? You either get it or you don't. But when you get it, key learnings like that. Right. Like that's amazing. And you know what?
You either get it or you don't.
But when you get it, it's hook it to my veins.
I saw Monica just peeked out the window when she heard that Ray Parker Jr. reference.
I also want to confirm one of the backup vocalists in this song is also...
I just want to stop a Wikipedia page. Bill Champlin the I just want to stop Wikipedia page.
Bill Champlin. I just want to make sure
I get this right. Yeah, this is...
Big BC. Right, from Chicago.
He's on here.
He's part of the personnel
from this song too. So you've got members of Chicago,
Toto, David Foster, and Jay Graydon.
That's Airplay, and here it is.
It almost has a good
vibration as well.
How did you find out about this?
I was just searching through.
I listened to Yacht Rock playlists
and stuff, and this came up, and I was
just like, I thought it was Toto. When I first heard it,
I was like, what the hell? Is this a Toto song?
I don't know. And then I realized
it is Toto, technically, because they're the ones
playing on the track.
David Foster was probably pretty
unknown at the time. Well he had
huge success working with Chicago
and
This is from when? 1980.
Okay. Holds up.
Yeah it's really good. 40 years ago.
A group called the Manhattan Transfer
had a cover of this song. I remember them well.
The Twilight Zone in New York City. I was a boy from New York City. So maybe you had a cover of this song. I remember them well. The Twilight Zone in New York City.
I was a boy from New York City.
So maybe you heard their version of this song.
Ooh, ah, ooh, ah, ooh, ooh, itty.
Talk about the boy from New York City.
He's really hot.
They covered this song, so maybe you know that version.
Maybe that's what you are familiar with.
Yeah, no, honestly, there's something.
That's because back in the day, that was an album that got played in the home, was that Manhattan Transfer album.
Do they have Operator Get Me Jesus on the line?
Is that Manhattan Transfer?
Sounds familiar.
Yeah, I'll have to dig into that.
But yeah, that's an all-star super group.
Toto, which was a super group of studio musicians, and this was like the all-star game.
We're like, yeah, yeah.
This is like one further.
They never toured.
Whoa.
That's it again.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
That was on the original file.
Okay.
But again,
like that opening,
I feel like David Foster lifted that
for the Calgary Olympics song.
Like,
dun-dun,
dun-dun-dun.
Oh, probably.
Like we've talked about that before.
Anyway.
I'm going to kick out
a nervous kiss. I'm two for two.
I have that song in my, like, is that your hype jam?
It's your ringtone.
Take showers to it.
How often?
Not often enough.
I was going to say.
There's a downwind here.
So I'm two for two.
I'm a little nervous because I'm hoping I can go three for three here.
Is this from a YouTube video?
Yeah.
You ready for my third yacht rock?
Not dock rock.
My third yacht rock jam.
That's the Curtis Joseph.
Okay.
Yeah.
Of course.
George Benson.
I love this.
Yeah, from Breezin', which Wiseblood and I play all the time because it was the theme song to a...
This is like a funkier Yacht Rock selection.
Yeah.
I have a feeling some mind-blowing is going to happen on this song.
I just need to confirm my suspicion.
Yep, on synth is David Foster.
Okay, there you go.
And Jay Graydon, guitar.
There you go, the airplay.
The band I just played is the band here.
This is my problem with Yaw Rock.
It's so incestuous.
It's like five bands and they...
That's what I was trying to say.
I was going to say there's like 25 musicians
and then Roxy Music and Gino Fadelli.
They all got along.
What's the universe of...
If you were to listen to a Yacht Rock playlist,
what's the universe... Oh, let's let George go.
It's a great jam, man.
Good calling response.
The brass.
I can show you how.
Turn your love around.
Can I blow your mind?
Yeah, go ahead.
This song is written by Bill Champlin of Chicago,
Jay Graydon of Airplay,
and Steve Lukather of Toto.
Shocking.
Holy shit.
Sorry, what year is this?
81.
The personnel is an all-star.
Like, on this track,
if you look at the personnel,
that's what I'm talking about.
Whenever they show you
personnel on a wiki
for a song,
you know you're gonna be impressed.
Yeah, I was gonna say,
it's like 10 people
have played all these songs.
But it's all the best guys.
Wow.
It's basically Toto.
Toto's playing...
It's Toto.
Again.
It's all the Toto guys.
I hope they're, like,
well-paid for, like...
Yeah, George Benson.
Yeah, we've played him
on Toronto Mike before,
but it's always the breezin'.
This song's produced
by Jay Graydon,
the singer from Airplay as well.
So, Yacht or Not?
Oh, yes.
You're killing it today.
Well, I did my homework, finally.
This is the first week I did homework.
Usually it's from the heart.
Cam will be happy to know the B-side of this single
was called Nature Boy.
Oh.
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
The names you're dropping that I'm absorbing keep coming up.
Make me wonder approximately how large is the Yacht Rock universe?
Could we do a part two and kick out 15 other songs?
You could.
Could you do a part three?
You probably could.
There's a lot of good stuff.
I know there's a SiriusXM station called Yacht Rock,
but I've been told it's very repetitious,
and they play a lot of hollow notes and stuff.
I'm kind of dubious, because again, it's not soft rock.
Jan Arden is not Yacht Rock, for example.
Okay, really cool thing I need to tell you about here.
Okay, then we go back to Cam's point.
That the bass player on this song is playing that sort of funky electric keyboard bass.
He's also played on the Michael Jackson Thriller album.
This is Boz Skaggs, who we already heard.
It's Toto's guy.
Sorry, what's his name?
David Page.
Okay, I'm just looking at Stu's screen here.
David Page, his photo on his Wikipedia page,
he's a little too into the electric piano.
He's really going for it.
The song you played, Lowdown,
he was the bass player on that one.
These guys are incredible.
Great musicians.
We're actually cruising along
here.
I think it's all killer,
no filler tonight on Pand friday and here without
further ado uh not an fotm but here is the fourth jam from cam gordon yes this is because i'm good
wrestling girls and cars yeah sure is oh yeah like that that electric piano
that's the pile driver album right girls
and cars that's right sometimes we played
that duet recently with is a hillbilly
gym Sometimes learn. Because we played that duet recently with, is it Hillbilly Jim?
Gertrude.
Let's let this go. Why don't we steal away? Why don't we steal away?
Into the night I know it ain't right
Don't tease me
Why don't you please me?
Then show me what you came here for
Why don't we steal away? Why don't we steal away into the night? Good stuff.
Okay, so this is Robbie Dupree's Steal Away from the summer of 1980.
A top ten hit in the U.S.
Went to number 14 in Canada.
I was surprised it was a bit higher because this is a great song, Steal Away.
A few fun facts about this tune and about Robbie Dupree as an artist.
My only fun fact here is that John D'Agnisto, who LA Times, this is from the Wikipedia page,
said this song was a blatant, wimpy ripoff of What a Fool Believes by the Doobie Brothers.
I hear it, though.
I was about to make a comment.
It's fair. I was going to save it for later, Believes by the Doobie Brothers. I hear it though. I was about to make a comment. I was going to
save it for later, but this is the Doobie
Bounce. This song is called
Steal It because he stole the song.
But I do love this song.
It's like, you know, you can still like Plush
and Pearl Jam at the same time.
Be that as it may.
Robbie Dupree, so he was nominated
for a Grammy in
1981, Best New Artist.
Losing to someone we heard earlier, Christopher Cross.
Oh, of course, sailing, yeah.
Best New Artist, 1981.
Right.
We touch on off the top, Robbie Dupree.
He did Arthur's theme too, right, Christopher Cross?
That's right.
Wow, that's a big jam.
Yeah, so Robbie Dupree was also featured.
We've touched on it on Piledriver, the second wrestling album.
Can we talk about that?
Like, that's the girls.
Tell me about the...
Strikeforce was the tag team.
Yeah, so Strikeforce was Tito Santana and Montreal's own Rick Martel,
later on The Model, famous for blinding Jake the Snake Roberts
with his atomizer.
Arrogance.
Arrogance, that's right.
On the Brother Love show, I feel like that happened.
Brother Love.
Yeah, so anyway, Robbie Dupree sang a song called Girls in Cars.
Yes.
The lead track, right?
It was not going to be a big jam.
It was like the first or something.
I think after Piledriver, it was like the lead single of that album.
I love Girls in Cars as opposed to In Vans.
Yeah.
So two more fun facts.
One about that track.
So on the 1987 Slammy Awards,
I'm sure Stu Stone was watching as I was.
I was in attendance.
Yeah, Jimmy Hart actually sang it.
Were you?
No.
Yeah, I'd be going.
Yeah, Jimmy Hart had a song on that, Crank It Up.
Yeah, so Jimmy Hart actually,
he stepped in for vocal duties from Robbie Dupree.
And we mentioned Rick Springfield earlier in the show,
but on my wrestling album, which is the wrestling album,
you can't eat your heart out.
So this is going to blow, well, it's not really blow your minds,
but it's more like you're going to have like intense FOMO,
especially Sue Stone when you hear this.
Sue, when did you come back to Toronto?
A couple of years ago.
Okay.
So this was a bit before you turned back into Toronto.
But in 2013.
I wasn't here.
You were not here.
Maybe Brother Bill was there.
Dupree toured through the U.S. and Canada over summer
as part of the Sail Rock 2013 tour.
Had one Toronto stop,
was in Norfolk County Fair named Simcoe, Ontario.
And who played on it?
That's not really Toronto.
No, well, it's not, but it's near Tilson.
It's close enough.
So on this, Robbie Dupree was on it.
Yep.
Joining him was John Ford Coley, a band called Firefall.
I guess he was the headliner.
John Ford Coley comes up a lot in the Yacht Rock stuff I was reading.
Al Stewart.
You're the cat.
You're the cat.
Gary Wright.
Oh, Gary Wright.
Your love is alive.
Yeah.
No, Dreamweaver.
Yeah, both of those. Yeah, playerweaver. Dreamweaver, yeah.
Player.
Player was on this tour.
Gary Player.
Robbie Dupree and the headliner.
Rene Dupree.
Hold on, I want to get this right.
Toto.
Good guess.
I wish.
After mentioned Christopher Cross highlighted that.
Wow.
So, I was sailed off 2013, October 8th, but down by Tilsonburg.
Okay, let's just give some love to Stephanie Wilkinson,
who submitted Sailing by Christopher Cross as one of her FOTM KOTJ jams.
She's got a head at the curve.
I will say, I'll make a pact right now that when coronavirus is over
and bands are touring again, the next time Toto or any of these type of acts hit
Casinorama, we should go.
Absolutely. We'll do a little caravan.
Can I ask you guys, Piledriver,
which I initially,
it took me a long time to warm up
to Piledriver because I was such a big fan
of the wrestling album, you understand.
Which 1236 tweeted out saying
based on the volume of conversation
on Trumike, you'd think this.
Yeah.
Who is it?
Because Sunrise Records tweeted it out.
Yeah, well, before U2 had ever appeared on Toronto Mic,
I was constantly playing songs from the wrestling album.
Like the original wrestling album.
Yeah, the wrestling album, right.
So the second one, which is this Piledriver,
what is your favorite cut on the Piledriver,
the second wrestling album?
There's a few that I like.
You know, Rick Derringer, who was, he did Real American on the first record.
On this one, he did Demolition, which is a great song.
Here comes the Axe.
Here comes the Smasher.
I prefer If You Only Knew, which was sort of the We Are the World for wrestlers.
Or Tears Are Not Enough.
And it had like all the wrestlers were on that song.
So what about Coco Beware?
Coco Beware.
He sung Piledriver.
Yeah.
Let's not sleep on Jive Soul Bro.
Jive Soul Bro is a fantastic song by Slick.
Kamala's manager, Slick.
Yeah, kind of that G-Funk style.
It all comes full circle here.
Of course, and again,
when we did the duets,
the guys and gals,
we did play Hillbilly Jim and Gertrude.
Crank It Up Party now,
the Young Stallions.
Oh shit, and that has Vince McMahon
stand back
stand back that's a
fact
yeah which was
just an amazing
video of Vince
McMahon
any Yaw Rock on
the party is the
closest we get is
the what about the
Dupree
yeah girls in cars
is you know late
period dot rock
is that the sequel
to black cars
okay same vintage
okay you have to
like kick me out
I cannot stop
saying it is
interesting I wish we had a clock,
like a timer thing where I could click.
You have said dog rock about eight or nine times.
Yeah.
Take a swig of Great Lakes every time.
I feel like I need like,
you know,
like a dog wears when like you have that electro fence,
like every time I say it.
Somebody out there says take a drink every time.
During a 1236 episode of Trotter Mike,
take a drink every time we say F-O-T-M.
It's a quick way to get hammered.
Oh my God, this name.
So again, I'm learning a lot about Yacht Rock.
I'm not like Stu who is a bit immersed in it for years now.
But this name I'm going to kick out.
This is Stu Stone's fourth jam.
It's a name I think it might be Michael McDonald.
I think I think of this name right away when
you say Yacht Rock. I can't wait. Can I play it or do you have
a thing you want to preface it with?
Man, this song is
awesome.
That's all I need. There have been times in my life
I've been wondering why
Still somehow I believe
We'll always survive
Now I'm not so sure
You're waiting to hear
One good reason to try
But what more can I say
What's left to provide
You think that maybe it's over
Only if you want it to be
Are you gonna wait for a sign?
Your miracle.
Wow.
Stand up and fight.
This is it.
There it is.
Make no mistake where you are.
This is it.
Kenny Loggins, the crown prince of yacht rock.
Kenny Loggins, the crown prince of yacht rock.
This song written by Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald.
Okay, not Messina.
Not Messina.
Michael McDonald co-wrote the song with him.
Michael McDonald is singing backup vocals on the track.
It's so fucking incestuous.
Think about it, Ken.
There's like 10 names.
I know.
Well, you'll hear Michael McDonald's the most because he's the one that really changed the game everyone copied michael mcdonald after after he hit the scene everybody was was playing catch up with michael mcdonald i also feel like he's been
the one in the modern day is like running with it the most but i mean even then like yeah you hear
the sound and you hear robbie dupree he ripped off michael mcdonald everybody's ripping off
michael mcdonald in some way because he created this sound.
Like the way that...
It's him.
It's him.
Here's him singing.
Oh, unmistakable.
Wow.
It's just so good.
To Michael McDonald, he played piano.
Yes.
Okay.
So Loggins and Messina, who you referenced,
they were like sort of a folkish act.
They sold 16 million records.
They were the most successful duo of the 70s,
surpassed later in the decade by...
Simon and Garfunkel.
No.
Hall & Oates.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
There's Michael singing again.
I think I should have gone with 60s for Simon and Garfunkel.
Of course, Kenny Loggins would go on to become...
That's Mike singing.
The soundtrack king.
The king of 80s soundtracks.
You have a lot to keep track of here.
Caddyshack, Top Gun, Over the Top, Footloose.
All Kenny Loggins.
And all big, I mean, I don't know about the Over the Top.
What was the song from Over the Top?
I don't really remember, but if I heard it, I would remember.
The other three were monster hits.
Over the Top was the arm wrestling.
Yes.
I think some people also misidentify Holiday Road,
the Lindsey Buckingham song as a Kenny Loggins, but it's not Kenny Loggins.
That's Lindsey Buckingham.
And that's another song we've kicked out in the past.
We've kicked that out, yeah.
By the way, shout out to all those who are now enjoying their 22nd Pandemic Friday episode, the completest.
Absolutely.
I want to just mention that this song is not a love song.
It sounds like it.
It sounds like it, but really it's a life song about Michael McDonald's father passing away and struggling in the hospital.
And it's really, if you really go back and listen to it again, with that in mind, it's a really sad song.
Is this it?
Yeah.
It's like, if this is it, let me know.
You know, I got to know.
If this ain't love, you got to know. That's Huey Lewis in the news.
Remember their song?
Also the strokes. Is this it? Yeah. We let him know. If This Ain't Love, you gotta, no, that's Huey Lewis in the news. Remember their song? Also The Strokes.
Is this it?
Yeah,
yeah.
Actually,
Huey,
well,
sort of.
Yeah,
that's Huey Lewis.
Or a bar band.
You know,
it's Doug and the Slugs.
The Jitters.
Blair Packham.
Shout out to Sammy Cohen who doesn't like
Doug and the Slugs.
Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald who would team up to write that tune.
And that is perhaps one of the finest songs in the yacht rock, in music, I think is just such a great song.
You know what I've noticed?
Most of these songs are pretty short.
Well, we just talk a lot.
I'm going to say this will be the shortest pandemic Friday episode ever
I think we're going to come under two hours
I didn't want to bog it down with other stuff
I wanted it to be all yacht rock
again breezy
yeah we did just sort of jump into it
we didn't really like
normally I bring in like I got a trailer from some
Stu Stone movie shout out to Kareem
who watched the worst
the worst Stu Stone movie. Shout out to Kareem who watched the worst Stu Stone movie possible.
Streaming on Rogers or something.
And didn't mind it.
I was there for the convo.
He seemed to really like it.
He liked it.
And you're embarrassed you're in this thing.
You won't even name the title of this movie.
Yeah.
Like you have such great shame.
It's not shame.
How old were you when you were in it?
No, it's, you know, this is you when you were in it? This is maybe...
I'm in my 20s.
This is not like a kid
acting. No, so you were able to read the script
and make a decision on your own.
Yes, but I don't...
Was there money in it for you? No.
Because we do a lot of things for money.
Yeah, this is not one of those.
Shout out to the Northern Pikes. They had a big hit,
The Things I Do for Money.
It was actually Stu and Peter North.
Hey, come on now.
Anyway, just want to shout out to the Northern Pikes
because on Monday,
I'm speaking to the primary singer-songwriter
for the Northern Pikes on Toronto Mike.
Well, that's exciting.
The Things I Do for Money.
Is that Yacht Rock, The Things I Do for Money?
No.
Speaking of songs about money,
remember I Want Wanna Be Rich?
Hathaway, maybe?
Hathaway.
Hathaway.
Hathaway was What Is Love.
What Is Love.
Hathaway.
I wanna be rich.
I know the song.
I'm trying to think of who does it.
Who does it?
Yeah, it's Hathaway.
I want money.
Lots and lots of money.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, you know, by the way, Stu, you were in L.A., I think. Where were you through the 90s? You were not here. Half of the 90 Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, by the way, Stu. Oh, you were in L.A., I think.
Where were you through the 90s?
You were not here.
Half of the 90s I was here.
Did you ever listen to Energy 108?
Nah, not really my cup of tea.
Not your jam.
Okay.
Because the most interesting ongoing history of Energy 108 or whatever,
like deep dive into Energy 108 was provided by Scott Turner in this backyard earlier this week.
How'd that go?
Station IDs,
a clip from 9-11,
10 jams that are associated with the...
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll say that 9-11 clip,
I listened to that whole episode.
That was haunting.
Yeah, Nicholas Pickles.
It really was haunting.
Nicholas Pickles,
I remember that name.
Yeah, Nicholas Pickles
was the morning show guy on 9-11.
Video arcade.
And he was on the phone with somebody he knew in New York who could see the towers from her balcony.
Oh, boy.
And they were on the phone talking.
So, as you know, one tower gets hit and they're on the phone talking.
And while...
Too soon.
Too soon.
Okay, Gilbert Gottfried.
So, while they're on the...
While they're talking, the plane hits the second building tower,
and you hear her reaction to seeing it.
Oh, man.
And it's chilling.
It was unbelievable.
It was very cool, yet slightly surreal to hear that.
And Nicholas Pickless reached out afterwards,
because he's still on the air in Buffalo.
Sure, yeah.
And he was on a video and arcade top 10 on YTV.
Yes, like kids playing video games.
With Liza Fromer.
Right.
F-O-T-M, Liza Fromer.
So Nicholas Piklis, who also was on CFNY back in the day.
Yeah.
Okay, so.
Wait, wait, wait.
I just want to drop a cool, well, not a.
Is it a Kenny Loggins fun fact?
No, it's a fun fact about 9-11.
Oh, there's a fun.
Okay, good.
Not really that fun of a fact, but.
Okay.
One of my buddies, who I'm going to name drop
DJ Lethal his name is professionally
from House of Pain
you think we don't know DJ Lethal?
he was also in Limp Bizkit
and they did a music video
on the roof of the
Twin Towers to Rolling Rolling Rolling
a few
I guess it would have been shortly before they came down
they were actually
on the roof. That's on the Twin Towers.
I know that video. I never knew that was the Twin Towers.
They're on the roof of the World Trade Center.
That is a fun fact, if you can. And remember,
there's a great documentary, not as good as
Jack of All Trades, but there's a good
documentary called The Wire, and it's got nothing
to do with my wire. It's a different wire. But the guy
who does the high wire,
he's a French guy. Man on wire. That's what it's called. wire but the guy who does the uh high wire he's a french guy
that's what it's called it's not called the wire yeah actually you know what this this is gonna
sound like a bird on a wire no this is a serious this is serious uh comment yeah i was gonna
actually it's not really that serious i was gonna choose a track of songs i like better when i saw
them in a movie yeah and there's this song that they play in that movie.
Man of Wire.
Eric Satie.
Do you know that it's like...
It's half as good as that.
I only do this show because I like to hear Cam sing.
But I was going to say, it's featured in Man of Wire,
also featured famously in Going Down the Road.
Oh, my God. The Canadian classic. Yeah. So, like, it all, you know, much in going down the road. Oh my God.
The Canadian classic.
Yeah.
So like it all,
you know,
much like dog.
Wow.
Oh my God.
It's all coming full circle,
but I have a fourth jam to kick out.
You sure do.
And I'm excited to kick out this jam.
Cause just like,
I get just like player,
just like player and just like ace.
And just like,
I guess airplay too.
Uh,
these are kind of jams.
Like,
you know, this, I don't know if I know Airplay,
but the rest, these are songs you know.
You might even love them.
But good luck naming the artist.
Let's see, maybe only Stu Stone can name the artist.
Here we go.
Monster.
This is the shit, dude.
Okay, but what percentage of people born in your birth year
can tell you the name of the artist?
Well, they're idiots.
Scumbags.
This is so, this is amazing.
So I'm four for four?
Oh, yeah.
I'm so excited to hear that.
You're killing it with this one.
Am I winning, Stu?
Am I winning?
Oh, yeah.
I imagine these guys to be Steely Dan's enemies.
You know, it's like...
So good.
Is this the Doobies?
No.
This is Ambrosia.
Oh.
See, he didn't know the artist.
They're so good.
I don't think many people in their 40s know the name of this artist.
This is like 99% score, like A plus for you on this one.
That makes me feel good.
Because I feel like I've disappointed you in the past
and I seek your approval.
Oh, this week,
you're killing it, brother.
I was made for Yara.
Who knew?
Now, Ambrosia,
what can you tell me
about Ambrosia?
I couldn't name
another song from Ambrosia.
These guys are so dope.
The guys are fucking millionaires.
You should look up
on your own time
when you guys get a chance.
But the singer and the guy who was the key figure behind Ambrosia,
I don't want to mispronounce.
I think David Pak is his name, if someone can confirm that.
David Pak.
Jim Pak.
Or Jim Pak.
Is that what it is?
He used to play for Pittsburgh Penguins.
Chris Pak from the Live to Airs with Chris
with Martin Street
Let me just make sure I'm getting this right
I met Chris Pack I think
I met him at the
David Pack, this guy is such a rich dude
Party for Marty, yeah go ahead
Here's some fun facts about Ambrosia
They are the unsung heroes of
Yacht Rock, they are so underrated and so incredible Here's some fun facts about Ambrosia They are the unsung heroes of yacht rock
They are
They are
So underrated
And so incredible
And how about this
The engineer on the first
We've said this a few weeks ago
I said this
So I'm just going to repeat stuff
That you've already heard
But let me blow your minds again
If you forget
Do it please
The engineer for Ambrosia's first album
Was a gentleman named Alan Parsons
They were so impressed by him They fired their producer album was a gentleman named Alan Parsons. They were so impressed by him, they fired their producer for their second album,
and Alan Parsons produced their second album.
By the time Alan Parsons decides he's ready to do the Alan Parsons project,
who does he recruit to be his project in the backing members of the band?
Ambrosia.
So when you listen to the Alan Parsons project,
you're really listening to an Ambrosia record with Alan Parsons.
And I would be remiss if I didn't mention another Pandemic Friday superstar.
Bruce Hornsby was a one-time member of Ambrosia as well.
So yeah, Alan Parsons project is all birthed from this.
If there wasn't this, there'd be no Chicago Bulls intro theme.
Can you,
yes,
honestly, yes.
Actually,
that's exactly why we played them.
Can you sing a little
How Much I Feel?
Oh, I'd love to.
Wait, do you have that,
do you have the song?
I can get it,
but can you,
I just want to hear,
okay.
I think that Ambrosia
is worthy of a second,
you know,
just so Cam really
will never forget
the name of
Ambrosia.
Not just a food, not just a bulk food store in Thornhill.
Well, I was going to say, yeah, like we've mentioned this last time we played Ambrosia.
Within like a five meter, five, five.
I'm like at a loss from like Ambrosia.
Within a five minute radius, there's four things.
There's Ambrosia, a bulk food emminute radius, there's four things. There's Ambrosia,
a bulk food emporium
that's amazing.
John Vince.
Very similar to John Vince.
There's Henderson Public School
where Stu Stone and friends
went to public school.
There's the childhood home
of Gian Gomeschi.
Which should be a museum.
And there's a studio
where Rush recorded
their third album,
Crest of Steel.
Don Caster.
All on this one street, Don Caster.
Cain's, Heinz Hell's.
Yeah.
Golden Star, Golden Star Hamburgers.
It's like incredible.
There was your Byway in Thornhill.
Yeah, Byway.
This feels like a Heritage Minute, and at the end you're like, they renamed that street
Ballard Road.
Next time I'm up on Thornhill, I'll do the Aldegon Periscope.
This is Ambrosia, by the way.
I can name two. I know two Ambrosias.
That's all you need to know.
Two is more than
most fans.
Kanye West sampled this.
Stu, you know Bread?
Yes. Is that Doc Rock?
Doc Rock, maybe,
but not Yacht Rock.
That's the tenth time, Cam.
Sorry.
Last warning.
It's really bad.
You get a two for one on Ambrosia.
Mike batting 1,000 this week.
I'm so giddy.
I could just almost weep with you here, Hal.
So this is the other Ambrosia song.
Man, okay.
I'm learning so much there, Stu.
And David Pack, who's no longer in the band,
but I think he made something like $70 million
or something off of Ambrosia's music.
Were they that popular?
It's back then.
Records were sold.
They also toured a lot.
I don't know.
Maybe he invested well with Austin Keitner.
I once rented a home that had in the basement,
there was a 8-track player,
and the only 8-track in the basement was bread.
I just heard Cam say bread.
Remember the band Traffic?
Sure.
You know who was a singer there?
Steve Winwood.
Yeah, yeah, I knew that.
Definitely not Yacht Rock.
Yacht Rock.
Not Yacht Rock.
I caught myself.
So I think now hearing, now we've heard,
I'm doing the math, here, 12, not counting the
ones I played at the beginning.
We've heard, so I guess, yeah, if I count those, we've heard 15 Yacht Rock songs.
There's four to go.
And I have a pretty good sense of what Yacht Rock is.
It's not quite an exact science, right, Stu?
No.
It's just, you know, if it gives you that feeling, then it is.
It's almost like when you hear Yacht Rock, you know it's Yacht Rock.
Right.
You know it when you hear it.
You just know.
Or Dock Rock, as it were.
But these are all songs that 15 years ago, I would have turned the channel.
I was not interested in any of this.
Well, I think James Edgar already turned the channel, for the honest.
That's fine.
He's looking for a tool countdown.
Well, listen, Maynard was a huge fan of Yacht Rock, so he's screwed.
The musicianship, like I said, MTV came around,
and the musicianship became secondary,
and all these guys sort of went away.
And Madonna and the George Michael.
They all kind of went away, but the Toto guys continued on
because they played on all these records.
Right.
They played on the Michael Jackson records.
They played on all the Madonna, I'm sure, stuff with her.
And I know Nile Rodgers, who isn't Yacht Rock either,
but he sort of made a great career for himself in the 80s,
in the MTV era.
Yeah.
The Reflex.
And he produced an FOTM album, The Spoons.
Yeah.
That's right.
But the Reflex is a huge song.
Oh, my God, yeah.
I used to breakdance to it.
In excess, and David Bowie. Sure. In Excess and David Bowie.
Sure.
Let's Dance, David Bowie.
You know, so some guys survived.
Absolutely.
Are you ready, Cam, for your final jam?
Yeah, I feel like this is going to be a bit more controversial.
This show is so short.
Well, I'll give you an exact time stamp.
We're at $1.40.
Okay, maybe it's not.
I always thought these should be two-hour episodes for what it's worth.
Well, we'll get there.
Moderately.
We might do it today.
I'm curious to hear what Stu's reaction to my final Yacht Rock jam is going to be.
Well, let's find out right now.
Whether it's actual Yacht Rock.
It's not Yacht Rock.
Is it?
Yeah, it is.
Oh. It has a little bit too much electric guitar for my taste. It's not Yacht Rock Is it? Yeah it is Oh
It has a little bit
Too much electric guitar
For my taste
But
Yeah it seemed a little
Oh this is Yacht Rock
It's that doobie bounce
Yeah
The doobie bounce
Is it America
Or what is it?
Yes
Not really
It's like the Eagles.
They can have a song that does qualify.
Yeah.
So this would qualify to me.
Time and place.
Time and place.
It wouldn't be my number one selection.
Now I know there can be no doubt.
You can do magic.
Yeah, that's Yacht Rock.
You can have anything that you Yacht Rock.
See, this doesn't sound like Neil Young to me.
No.
Not like not at all.
No, but it does sound like another band that you're going to hear shortly.
America doesn't sort of, their sound is sort of borrowed from.
Yeah, like just whatever is trendy at that time, like for sure. So yeah, the band's America, the songs You Can Do Magic from the summer of 1982.
This came out.
So this, I would say this is almost late period yacht rock.
This song I first heard, I have a very specific memory.
Growing up, my dad worked for a company in Mississauga
that made like aluminum products.
He was in HR, so he'd run all the Christmas parties.
And he'd always hire talent to entertain the children.
One year, there was a magic show.
And there was this guy who did a magic show.
And his grand finale is he laid on a bed of nails.
As he did, this song played.
He actually took off his shirt,
laid on the bed of nails.
This song played.
Me and my sister, we're like, I'm five.
We're like, what the fuck is this all about?
We were kind of like, our mind was blown.
Like, by the way, this song kind of sucks.
But then that's Americaica you can do magic so anyway top 10 song in the u.s um so interestingly that this was a bit of a comeback song for them i mean it was six years
between top 40 hits for uh america um when when this song came out um so yeah obviously
perhaps their most famous track,
Horse With No Name,
often mistaken for Neil Young.
Right.
That'll be on the mistaken,
what is it,
mistaken identity episode.
Yeah.
I'm dying for that.
Yeah, so.
Robbie Dupree will get on there.
So America has actually
never really left us.
They've been putting out albums steadily
to this present day.
They actually,
they were supposed to tour this summer
and got cancelled by COVID.
All sorts of albums in their discography.
One that came out in 2017
jumped out
because this album,
which was called Here and Now,
was co-produced by the late Adam Schlesinger.
Oh yes, he just died of COVID.
The founders of Wayne,
who's a favorite artist of...
Norm Wilner.
Was it Norm Wilner?
And co-produced by Adam Schlesinger
and also James...
Is that Norm Wilner's favorite band?
Founders of Wayne?
Yeah.
So co-produced by...
You don't listen to Toronto Mines?
So this was co-produced
by Adam Schlesinger
and also by James Eha.
James Eha.
Oh, yeah.
Smashing Pumpkins.
Smashing Pumpkins
featuring guest spots by everyone from Ryan Adams.
Ryan Adams.
He's been canceled, hasn't he?
Oh, that's Brian.
No.
Well, now they're both been canceled.
And also Jim James.
They have the same birthday, you know.
Yeah.
Do you guys know Jim James, the singer from My Morning Jacket?
Also known as Jim Jim.
I like My Morning Jacket.
I saw them open for Pearl Jam twice, and I started digging that.
Jim James, a.k.a. James James.
Yeah, well, I think he's a cult leader, right,
who drank the Kool-Aid?
That was Jim Jones.
Jim Jones, right.
Okay, sorry.
But Schlesinger, real quick,
he's, of course, the soundtrack,
new modern soundtrack king for Thing You Do.
He wrote that Thing You Do for the Wonders.
Power pop icon.
Oh, my God, power pop icon oh my god power pop icon
and he feels like uh uh like trent resner and atticus rock is that his name atticus ross ross
yes those guys are the ones that are sort of on a lot of soundtracks yeah oh yeah like the uh yeah
the social network and stuff now i need to give an update from uh on twitter andrew ward has a
couple of things for me to share with you. They better be wrestling related. One is, but first one is not.
It is, Cam, you were referencing Gymnopedia,
either one or three by French Impressions composer Eric Satsu.
Correct.
Is that like...
It's a famous song.
Can you find that song?
Because I want to hear him sing it and see how close it is.
Can you actually play a bit of this?
You sing it to see if I can know.
I'll find it, but let me just read the second one from Andrew Ward.
Don't forget that
Alan Parsons theme was critical
to Ricky Steamboat's entrance.
Of course, we've touched upon that.
Come on, man.
Andrew, come on, keep up, Andrew.
What the hell, Andrew?
Huss. Eric, Andrew. Yeah. Come on. The hell, Andrew. Huss.
Huss.
So, here we go.
Is it this one?
Eric Sadie.
Yes.
This is what you were singing?
I was going to choose this.
For Yacht Rock?
No, no.
No, for songs I like better in movies.
I feel like this was in Donnie Darko.
Yeah, like this is like a well-known jam.
Yeah, of course.
Definitely not. It's Yacht Rock. Gymnopedia. Yeah, like this is like a well-known jam. Yeah, of course. Definitely not.
It's Gymnopedia.
Gymnopedia number one.
Like number one or something.
Right.
Yeah, I know this.
Yeah, so Man on Wire.
I didn't get, you didn't sing this well.
Just like, I couldn't have got this from what you were singing.
I'm going to do Classical Gas next by Mason Williams.
We got to do an instrumental episode.
I'm actually fine with that.
I mean, we got to pace ourselves here.
This could go a while.
Like we could do, I don't know what else to name dropping to.
Oh, I didn't mean to be so elegant.
That's okay.
To do that, I was trying to find out a list of.
But that's what that song's called, Man...
I think it's just called Man on Wire.
Like a man on a wire.
I'm going to plead a little ignorance, but okay.
That's...
Okay, moving on.
But Man on Wire is a great documentary.
It's great, yeah.
What footage of the World Trade Center?
It's incredible.
I think it was late 70s, I think, when that was going down. Yeah.
But it's amazing he got away. I'll check it out.
Mid-70s, maybe. Especially, like, in the
wake of... Like, just the fact
they could even scope this out.
How did they get...
Have you seen this? Do you know what this is?
It's unbelievable. I know what it is. I just haven't seen it.
It's wild. French high wire guy.
He's insane.
He needed the biggest challenge.
But also like a good study of just someone who becomes like completely fixated on this random thing too.
Some people become experts of their own domain much like Yacht Rock in my final selection.
Your final selection.
Before you start.
Before I start.
Is this the de facto Yacht Rock song?
This is the hall of Fame. If we didn't
play this today, we'd be hearing about it.
Yeah, you cannot
make a list, a comprehensive list, without
having this at the very top.
This is the very top. I'm sure
you're going to play a song that might be better.
Who knows, but touch your nose when you want me to play it.
Yeah, I don't want you to hit play just yet, because
I want to just let you know that you've
learned a lot in this episode, hopefully.
I have.
You've learned a lot about the musicianship.
You've learned a lot about the importance of Toto.
You've learned a lot about David Foster's contributions.
We've learned a lot about just the craftsmanship and, you know, giving respect to something that we would have maybe rolled our eyes at.
Right.
We also heard Robbie Dupree's song that was a complete ripoff of what we're about to hear.
Yeah.
But you heard me use the term the doobie bounce.
Yes.
This is the doobie bounce.
It came from this song, which you're about to hear, which is the anthem of all anthems.
And we'll let it play before I give you some fun facts about it.
But here it is, guys.
And when I kicked out the jams, I think my first time on toronto mic this was my number one selection that day yeah so here it is on yacht rock day
i'm putting my mic away i'm just i don't even want to be
i mean do you hear the Robbie DeVries song?
Yeah. yet to be created once in her life she musters a smile
for his nostalgic tale
never coming near
what he wanted to say
only to realize
he never really was
she had a place in his life.
He never made her think twice.
As she rises to her apology, anybody else would surely know.
Apology.
Anybody else would surely know.
Who's watching her go.
What a fool believes.
He sees.
The wise man has the power.
So good.
Wow. What a fool believes by the Doobie Brothers.
The Doobie Brothers, you would never expect these guys to be what they became
because they were like a California rock band known for rock music.
I was thinking of like Southern rock.
Like Boogie Rockwater, Keep On Rollin', Mississippi.
China Grove.
Definitely like a Southern rock, early 70s, huge, huge band.
Yeah.
And when the lead singer, Tom Johnston, of the Doobie Brothers,
became ill, too ill to continue, had to tap out,
the Doobie Brothers turned to a gentleman that some of those guys met
while working on the Steely Dan album, Michael McDonald.
And had Michael McDonald sort of, he joined the Doobie Brothers
and started sort of filling in at first for Tom Johnson.
But when it came time to record a record, he sort of took over,
and you can hear it.
You can hear the evolution of a band.
These guys went from a hard rock and roll sort of outfit to this.
Stu, what year
did this come out?
This came out in 79.
79.
So they already had
a few rockish
kind of entries
at this point.
The Doobie Bounce
refers to this song,
the tempo,
the bounce,
the feel.
This is
incredible stuff here.
Was that song Backwater?
Yeah, Backwater.
Keep on rolling.
That seems almost like a transition.
But that's a great song.
I really like that song.
The song that sort of was the big transition song for them
would have been Taking It to the Streets.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good song.
And Minute by Minute.
And, you know, there's a bunch of them, but
they were supposed to get back together this year.
What was their late 80s hit?
There was a song called The Doctor.
Yeah, music is the doctor, makes you feel
what you want, that's the one. But that's Tom
Johnson back with the band again.
And that would be good in that
70s artist's 80s hit.
You know, one of the biggest
tragedies of the COVID era
was that the Doobie Brothers
original lineup,
including Michael McDonald,
were set to tour this year
with Chicago,
I believe.
And that was going to happen
at the Molson Amphitheater,
whatever you call it now.
It's called Budweiser Stage.
Is it fair to say,
Stu,
that was the most negative thing
to come out of this pandemic?
One of them.
But there is a mind blow for you here. Oh my God, there is a them. But there is a mind blow for you here.
Oh my god, a mind blow.
There is a mind blow for you.
I'm surprised to know.
Are you sitting down?
What a Fool Believes was written by, guess who?
You want me to play it?
No, no, no.
Not the guess who.
Written by Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins.
Okay.
The song was originally released as a single by Kenny Loggins.
Sorry, what was written?
What a Fool Believes was written by Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins.
Okay.
The birth of the Yacht Rock sound that we know.
Kenny Loggins is all over this Yacht Rock.
Loggins and McDonald were the Lennon and McCartney of Yacht Rock.
His droplets are all over.
Kenny Loggins actually released the song first as a single, and it fizzled.
And then the Doobie Brothers were like, we'll give it a shot.
And it went to number one, the Doobie Brothers version.
One of the only non-disco songs to reach number one that entire year.
Wow.
So if you're not a disco fan.
But we're going to play it for you right now.
Kenny Loggins, who did it best?
Wait a minute.
Kenny Loggins or the Doobie Brothers?
This is the original release.
Doobie Brothers.
Okay.
Little Tinny.
And that's Michael McDonald singing on this one, too.
It's not quite as full.
Yeah.
Almost sounds sped up.
It's like a 1.5 speed. It's missing one channel or something.
One of the tracks is missing.
It's like his balls haven't dropped yet. This is a little too deep, this part. It's like his balls
haven't dropped yet.
This is a little too deep,
this part.
It's going to be higher.
Yeah, it's just like not...
Imagine the Doobie Brothers
never took a second
crack at this.
We would never have
Yacht Rock.
You wouldn't have Yacht Rock.
We would not be sitting here.
You wouldn't be sitting here.
It's like sliding doors.
In 1980, Aretha Franklin also covered the song.
I've heard that.
I'm not a fan of her version, actually.
It's weird.
It's got all the parts, but it's almost like the demo version.
Yeah.
Interesting fun fact that is not proven, but a definite rumor.
On the Doobie Brothers version, singing back up vocals, although this is not proven But a definite rumor On the Doobie Brothers version
Singing backup vocals
Although this is not confirmed
But it is a rumor that Michael Jackson
I knew you were going to say Michael Jackson
Because he was involved with Toto
And it all comes
And the first show that I saw
On this version?
No on the Doobie
Because you know The Toto guys and Quincy Jones would have been working on Off the Wall.
I was going to say, it wouldn't be that far-fetched, really.
Some of the Toto songs, I think some of the songs from Off the Wall may have actually been written by some of the Toto guys.
I have to double-check on that.
But let me just say that that concert I alluded to, the free Toto tickets that opened up this.
That changed your life.
That changed my life.
Toto was the featured act.
And the headlining act was Michael McDonald.
Oh, my God.
Who's the guy who does the parody of Michael McDonald?
Is it on Mad TV?
Warren G.
No.
Seth MacFarlane?
He's a Canadian comic.
Is it the same guy who does Kenny Rogers?
Are you talking about like Andre Philip Gagnon?
David Steinberg.
Rich Little?
Yeah.
Remember the Canadian comedian.
So there you go.
You got my top five.
You blew my mind.
You blew my mind.
My mind is blown.
So much talent.
Michael McDonald
is the king of the world.
Boz Gags is the godfather.
Ambrosia.
Shout out to Ambrosia.
You know, there's one jam to go.
Yeah, yeah.
I know you like to go pretty much ended after years.
I feel like Kenny Loggins is like the Jim Clancy,
just like a solid, like 230 innings, 14 wins, 12 losses.
Most losses of the 80s, by the way.
Shout out to Seals and Croft.
Shout out to Players.
Shout out to Christopher Cross.
You know, I think...
Roxy Music.
Quincy Jones
who danced around
in the genre
yeah Summer Breeze
is that right?
shout out of course
shout out to
Ray Parker Jr.
who showed up a few times
couple Canadians
Gino Vanelli
Gino Vanelli
Christopher Ward
yeah
so this was a lot of fun for me
absolutely
thank you for doing it
and if you want more
Michael McDonald songs
I might I suggest
Keep Forgetting We're Not In Love Anymore
which Warren G samples for regulators
I'm shocked that didn't come out
let's also mention Yamo Bee
Yamo Bee
which is a great song
and then from Running Scared
the Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines movie
Sweet Freedom is Gregory Hines movie? Oh, yeah. Sweet Freedom.
Is Gregory Hines
buried in the GTA?
Gregory Hines? Buried in tap
shoes, wherever he is.
I think maybe that's a wise blot
discovery that Gregory Hines was buried
in the GTA. This was his famous
people who died in
Toronto, but were not Canadian.
I also want to give a shout out to Chicago, because
they weren't played by any
of us that I'm aware of, unless you're about to play
a Chicago song.
You want me to leave you time at the end to shout out
Chicago?
No, I think this is the last one.
I'm not going to kick out of Chicago, James.
Yeah, so I think Chicago sort of
teeters the line of whether they're
Yacht Rock or not.
They also went with the times. They had so many different sounds over the years, too. So I think Chicago sort of teeters the line of whether they're yacht rock or not. I'm kicking out.
They also went with the times.
They had so many different sounds over the years, too.
So one jam to go.
I'm hoping I go five for five.
I'm actually confident I will be going five for five because I saved the best for last.
I think this is the best of the bunch.
Did Vanessa Williams, you saved the best for last? Yeah.
Sometimes the snow comes down in June.
Great song, by the way.
Which, by the way, the Northern Pikes I mentioned,
I promoted that the episode is coming up with Jay.
Did they do a cover of that?
No, but there was their album called Snow in June.
Sometimes the snow comes down in June.
So, I believe, I think, I just want to watch Stu's face
when I kick out my final Yacht Rock Jam.
Oh, this better be from a Wendell Clark video.
You ready?
You ready?
Yes.
Ah, there you go.
The greatest song ever recorded.
This is it.
Yeah, you killed it, man.
Five for five.
This is it, man.
This might be the song that's better than What a Fool Believes.
I don't think this is dark rock.
No, this is yacht rock. Well, no, it's yacht rock.
It's yacht rock.
Definitely yacht rock.
Is that it? What a jam.
So good.
Of course, written about Rosanna Arquette
Right
Yeah as discussed
And
She was also
Some other song
That we discovered
Was written about her
And she's in Pulp Fiction
Yes
My favorite movie of all time
I was in a movie with her
Where I got to make out with her
Are you fucking kidding me
I swear
What movie
It was called
Fade Acompli
Sometimes it's called
Voodoo Dawn
Not a good movie
But with Balthazar Getty
But she's got like 30 years on you.
Yeah, and I played like, I made out with her in the back of a car.
We did like six or seven takes.
It's like a Lolita thing?
I smooched with her.
Is that very clinical?
That was like probably one of my only kissing scenes I ever had in anything was with her.
I'll bet.
How long does one shoot a scene like that?
Like is this over two hours?
Yeah, I mean we got you, I mean, you do takes.
One, take two, take three.
Is it ever, even for a moment, at all sexual?
Or does it always feel very clinical?
I guess I'm not the right person to ask
because the only kissing scenes I really had
was with Rosetta Arquette,
which was not...
It was cool.
She's a great kisser.
And does she chew gum or have a mint or something?
I believe she did.
Did you do that?
Yeah, of course.
You got to be respectful.
Yeah, that's a kind gesture on your part.
But yeah, this is...
So to answer Cam's question,
so Cam's like,
tell us why this is Yacht Rock.
Who's playing the song?
No, I get it.
It's Toto.
Toto is Yacht Rock.
Well, specifically this.
Africa.
Africa is Yacht Rock. Africa is Yacht Rock.
Sure is. For sure it is.
There's no E.
Listen.
This part.
It fits in with everything.
Yeah.
If America...
Yeah.
Africa for sure is
Yacht Rock as well. It is. See, that one I wasn't sure about. Africa. This sure is Yacht Rock as well It is
I'm not
See that one I didn't
I wasn't sure about Africa
This one's Yacht Rock
Yeah
But I wasn't sure about Africa
Africa
Africa qualifies
Mike Wilner kicked out Africa
When he kicked out the gym
This is like Prog Rock
So it's all about the rivers
Shit happening here
No there's a lot going on in this song
Like this
Wow
This sounds like Roxy music
Like Brian Eno or something.
Is that David Foster on the synths?
I don't think so.
I can look it up.
Look it up.
Chord dub.
This is something for everyone, this song.
Those are big guitars.
Oh, like band on the run, you know?
If you don't like it, just wait a minute.
There are people, myself included, that will say the Run, you know, if you don't like it, just wait a minute. There are people, myself included,
that will say, like, this is a masterpiece recording.
If you break down, you can
go on the internet and look this up, but they
actually have, like, separated tracks where you
can, like, listen to the song just track by
track, and it's just, like, the best shit.
That's cool. Uh, let me look up
the personnel on here. How, like,
Rosanna Arquette would have been really young
when this song...
Was she in
Desperately Seeking Susan?
Yes.
So she would have been
a teenager.
Yeah.
Yeah,
Patricia Arquette's
older sister.
Is this sort of
uncomfortable?
Ha!
This song went to
number two on the
Billboard chart
for five consecutive weeks
but never was able
to hop over
Don't You Want Me
by the Human League or
Eye of the Tiger. Oh, of course.
Yeah, Wikipedia says this is Yacht Rock.
The personnel.
Okay, so you've got all the members of Toto
obviously. And you've got
some... No David Foster
here.
What a jam though.
Yeah. And it's about time I go
five for five. The brass section is the guys that played the Blues Brothers band with the...
Okay, yeah, yeah.
So that's kind of cool.
Sure.
Like serious players here.
All these guys.
Like this holds up too.
Listen to this, man.
It's like a new part.
Listen to this.
Again, something for everyone.
These are the best musicians there are.
Toto. I'm trying to tell you These are the best musicians there are. Toto.
I'm trying to tell you.
They're just showing off now.
Yeah.
Is this the same song?
Yes.
Five for fucking five.
Yeah.
A Bo Bichette kind of night.
Oh, yeah.
We, uh... This is so perfect This almost sounds like the end of Yacht Rock
Yeah
Because it's so late period
And there's just so much going on
It's almost like they're going out with a band
A bang and then
I still don't buy
Africa's Yacht Rock. It is.
Want me to confirm that for you real quick?
How? Because it is.
Who played it? Well, I don't think that's
enough. That's not adequate.
Who played... Well, like Black Cars
is not Yacht Rock. Yeah, and we talked
right off the top. We played Eagles. Okay, you listed a
Soft Rock. That's Yacht Rock.
No, no, no, no. It's Yacht Rock. Is that like a sticker? It's Yacht Rock. We play Eagles. It's listed as soft rock. That's yacht rock. No, no, no, no, no.
No, it's yacht rock.
It's not like a sticker.
It's yacht rock.
We kicked off tonight
by playing two Eagles songs.
Yeah, but this is...
I did it on purpose
to show that one band
could have a song
that's not yacht rock.
Africa is yacht rock.
I don't care.
Well, I kicked out Rosanna,
so...
So it's Footloose?
Is that yacht rock?
They play it on the yacht rock station.
There's no chance.
There's no fucking chance Footloose is Yacht Rock.
Let's not taint this.
Let's not taint this.
No, no, no.
We got to get out of here.
We have such good vibes going.
We got to get out of here.
Let's spend the rest of the night on Wikipedia.
Record number of listeners, I'm certain.
We hyped this up and it was worthy.
Stu, you kicked ass tonight.
Just want to say real quick.
Africa became a blockbuster smash for the ages,
proving that Yacht Rock is forever.
Yeah, is that a Stu Stone
blog? No, that's not. That's a quote.
It's also listed on the five essential
Yacht Rock classics.
It is the Guardian,
so this is a reputable source.
All right, well, again, let's not taint it.
I kicked out Rosanna
for the... These were good times.
Cam, thanks so much.
You kicked out some...
I don't know about the Avalon,
but you kicked out some great jams tonight.
And Stu, you really brought the info.
I learned a lot from you today.
And I hope this met your expectations.
Oh, it was incredible.
Absolutely.
Should I have recorded this?
I'm not sure.
I hope so.
But what a great show.
Shout out to my mom,
who may have been listening.
Oh, find out for me and let us
know next week when we kick out the
FOTM jam.
And that
this song could be on my FOTM
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