Tosh Show - My Baby Expert - Dr. Harvey Karp

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

Daniel learns about the decades of research and experience that led pediatrician Dr. Harvey Karp to invent the SNOO smart bassinet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 More, more, more, more, more, more better. Hey, I'm Melissa Fumero, and I'm Stephanie Beatriz. You may know us from television. Night, night. And now we're here with our very own podcast, More Better with Stephanie and Melissa. Join us as we take on topics like listening to yourself, the challenge of self-care, and making friends as an adult.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We're going to share our struggles. We're going to speak to experts. And we're going to share everything we learn with you. Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Get emotional with me, Radhita Vlukya, in my new podcast, A Really Good Cry.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We're going to be talking with some of my best friends. I didn't know we were going to go there, Amir. Amir, don't let me go this way. People that I admire. When we say listen to your body, really tune in to what's going on Authors of books that have changed my life. Now you're talking about sympathy, which is different than empathy Yeah, never forget
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's okay to cry as long as you make it a really good one Listen to a really good cry with Raleigh de Vlucca on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts If you love comedy movies and Hollywood satire, you're going to want to listen to a brand new podcast called Get It to Dutch. In Get It to Dutch, we play three aspiring screenwriters on a quest to get a script to big time Hollywood producer Dutch Huxley. Each week on the podcast, we perform a movie script right before your ears. It's like going to a movie with your eyes closed.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And we have amazing guest stars, including Tim Robinson, Rob Hubel, Lily Sullivan, Jamie Moyer, and Weird Al Yankovic. Listen to Get It to Dutch, a screenwriter's journey on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. You practiced for 25 years in Santa Monica, the Mecca of pretentious, all organic, vegan assholes. I can't imagine what they must have been like
Starting point is 00:01:47 with their children. I love my Santa Monica parents. I'm not going there, are you kidding me? Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show, Tosh Show. Hello everyone, it's me Daniel Tosh and welcome to another episode of Tosh Show. I've been redeemed.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I've been redeemed. By the blood of the Lamb. By the blood of the Lamb. I've been redeemed. I've been redeemed. By the blood of the Lamb. If you don't know this song, you're not going to go to heaven. I mean, I want to go to heaven.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Let's try it again. No. I really want to go. You get one chance for the blood of the lamb to redeem you All right. Hey, I'm not excited because I know what we're doing feedback We're getting some feedback from the viewers. Yeah, let's get into it. Let's do it grocery store Joe's episode eat a bag of dicks Tosh Toronto rules
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'll pass on your local cuisine a A bag of dicks. That's Toronto for you. What are you guys in the mood for today? Well, hopefully you got one of those piping hot bag of dicks for me. Hello, Mr. Tosh. I'm a producer at Warner Brothers and I'm interested in buying the rights to this week's bedtime story. I think it will fit nicely into our revamped DCEU. Please get in touch if you are interested. Not interested. I appreciate the offer, but you're a little late. Marvel has already locked my son up.
Starting point is 00:03:14 The Italian restaurant near my house is called Goombas, but it's owned by Mexicans. How's their, how's their pizzadillas? I bet they're delicious. Andy's episode. Honestly, I can't believe anyone pays to see comedians when there's so much music to see. Okay. First of all, dip shit. You don't see music. You listen to it.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Unless you're deaf, then you feel it. We got a little back and forth here from Andy's episode. I love the real numbers. And then there's a response. He was pulling in really good money in 1998. I don't know what he thinks that proves. $400 for like five days nominally, 10 hours of work, even if he was working eight hours a day
Starting point is 00:03:55 is a lot of money for 98. Fuck you. Just, just fuck you. You don't, first of all, when I was reading my calendar from 1998, that wasn't the day I started comedy. I'd been doing comedy for five years. That was just happened to be a calendar that I had found.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And making $500 a week, yeah, that's great. If you're a person that has no real dreams, but I didn't live in whatever random city I was in in Ohio. I was commuting 400 miles every day to some random city to do a show. I'm just, I'm just, just like if you would have gotten my calendar, which doesn't exist from 1995 or 96, where every show I did was me just showing up to a comedy club, begging to be put on for free and them saying no and me driving home that night. That was the career for years.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Then eventually I got to a point where I was making the 400 and the $500 a week while traveling in a car back and forth across the country every other day. Let's see here. I'm still angry about that one. Well, let's get this. That one really burns me. Let's move it on.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Okay. Let's move it on. I worked in the. I don't know what that proves. $400 back in 90. Yeah, I remember back in 1998 when if you had $400, you were, everyone was like, look how rich that guy is.
Starting point is 00:05:32 He's got $400. Well, I mean, and then people would be like, well, it's 1998. You got $400. Woo! All right, go on. What's the next one? Chandler Parsons episode. Well, it's 1998. You got $400. Woo. All right, go on. What's the next one? Chandler Parsons episode.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Don't worry Parsons, Memphis still hates you too. You know what Chandler should do to make things right in Memphis? I don't know if you've heard, but Graceland has been in the news lately where it's potentially being sold in foreclosure. Chandler should swoop in right now for the city of Memphis and buy Graceland. Then he should demolish it. Everything except for the death toilet. Leave the toilet there. Then open up a Kansas City barbecue spot there,
Starting point is 00:06:20 because Kansas City barbecue is so much better than Memphis barbecue. And you go there, you get some Casey barbecue, and then you get to sit on the throne. That's what, that's what Chandler should do. I think they would all, I think everything would be forgiven at that point. Actually, a lot of comments about you having celebrities on. A lot of people have been calling you out because you said you were never going to have celebrities on, and then you had Michelle Wee, Luke McFarland, grocery store Joe, Chandler Parsons.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Okay that's enough. First of all you can't believe a thing I say. I'm a huge liar. I also said I would never do a podcast but here we are. Let me be clear. I feel like I have to say this again. I don't care what my fans want this show to be. If you think, and I'm sorry, Chandler, you're about to catch some strays right now. If you think Chandler, a role player, a former role player in the NBA is a celebrity, then you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:19 We're never gonna see eye to eye on anything. I mean, no offense. He was never even an all star. He was like a second team all rookie. I think it was, it was the biggest honor that he got in the NBA. I could be wrong. Nope. You're right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 He's going to give me shit, but whatever. What I said the show was, or I don't even know what I said. It doesn't matter what I said. Here's what the show is. I'm going to interview people that I want to interview. If I find them interesting, that's why they're going to be sitting there. What I didn't want to do was do a podcast like other comedians where they're just talking about stand-up comedy back and forth to each other.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And the thing about celebrities was that I didn't want to have a forced conversation with somebody that was only here to promote their new project. So that the guideline, I'll have Robert De Niro on the show if he wants to talk about having children in his 70s. Okay, that's interesting. But I don't care about someone's movie that they're contractually obligated to plug. That's, that's where I'm drawing the line. You hear me? Is that, is that crystal clear?
Starting point is 00:08:30 Do we understand now? Do we, can we, can we stop with the dumb comments? You are going to have celebrities on and then you had the helpful Honda guy on. I'm sorry that you're such a fucking boring person that lives in some awful place where you think anybody that's been on TV for one second is now a celebrity. God damn it. I didn't want to get all worked up. Knock it off.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We're going to have whoever I want in that chair. And this week is no exception. Because it's brought to my attention that a lot of my fans have been getting abortions because they don't know where their baby should sleep. Well, I gotta fix that. So we're having another doctor on this show. Yeah, this podcast is borderline educational.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Enjoy. Hey, I'm Melissa Fumero and I'm Stephanie Beatriz. You may know us from television. Night night. And now we're here with our very own podcast, More Better with Stephanie and Melissa. We've known each other for thousands of years. And we've been through it all together.
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Starting point is 00:10:27 Hey everyone, I'm Mark. I'm Greg. I'm Brendan. And this is a trailer for a new podcast called Get It to Dutch, a Screenwriter's Journey. It's about screenwriting. And a journey. The three of us play aspiring screenwriters on a quest to get a hit Hollywood script to famous producer, Dutch Huxley. Well, I would say one of us is aspiring and the other two are sort of struggling. Which one of us is aspiring? Well, they're going to have to listen to the podcast. Hmm, but I don't know and I made the podcast. Well, I made the podcast and I think you guys were along for the ride.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Each week we bring in a script, we read it, and then we give each other notes. And you'll also hear about our adventures navigating the Hollywood system. The show features amazing guests like Tim Robinson, Lily Sullivan, Weird Al Yankovic, and Rob Hubel. And like any great blockbuster, it's filled with heartbreak, adventure, suspense, and just a little tasteful nudity. And some distasteful nudity. Oh yeah, sorry about that, guys. Listen to Get It to Dutch, a screenwriter's journey on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm home. Everyone knows that it's Dad's job to be a bit of a joker.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Sorry I'm late everyone. There was an accident at the factory. Monty fell into the upholstery machine. Don't worry though, he's fully recovered. Good one dad. Did you get the pizza for dinner? So he likes to keep everyone happy with some dad jokes. Yep right here. I had a coupon and it saved me a lot of dough. Well the truth is dad is just a fun guy.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Hey I'm not a mushroom. Please stop. Where does he get these stupid jokes from? He listens to the Daily Dad Jokes podcast. Oh, great. More dad jokes for me. We've delivered over 15,000 jokes to over 3 million listeners,
Starting point is 00:12:17 and man, the postage fees are killing us. Listen to the Daily Dad Jokes podcast every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My guest today believes that all babies should sleep in straight jackets, harnessed to a gyrating bed, blasting white noise. Please welcome world renowned pediatrician, author, and inventor of the SNU, Dr. Harvey Karp. How was that for an intro?
Starting point is 00:12:48 I think that was bombastic. Fantastic, fantastic, I meant to say. Fantastic. Yeah, it was a little bit of that. First question. Yes. Do you believe in ghosts? Do I believe in ghosts? No, I believe in higher powers, though. All right. But you don't believe in ghosts? Do I believe in ghosts? No, I believe in higher powers though. All right, but you don't believe in ghosts? No. Well, by the way,
Starting point is 00:13:09 you went to Albert Einstein College of Medicine. That's made up, right? Yeah. Oh. Where is that? I don't even know where that college is. It's in the Bronx. Is it?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Okay, you unable to get into the halls of medicine? It's, you know, as it turns out, it is, here's the good thing. Did I tell you that half my questions are just dumb? Okay. No, but listen, here's the thing. There's science and there's humanity, and medicine really weaves those two together. And what's great about Einstein is that it really pays attention to the humanity. Did you excel in school?
Starting point is 00:13:42 I was good. I mean, I was like a... You're not going to be honest about that. No, I wasn't like the smartest in the humanity. Did you excel in school? I was good. I mean, I was like a... You're not gonna be honest about that. No, I wasn't like the smartest in the class. I mean, I did graduate early. Like I was a 16 year old when I graduated high school. Okay, see, already. That's, I mean, although...
Starting point is 00:13:55 But very immature. You practiced for 25 years in Santa Monica, the Mecca of pretentious, all organic, vegan assholes whose bodies are sacred temples. I can't imagine what they must have been like with their children. I love my Santa Monica parents. I'm not going there, are you kidding me? No, listen.
Starting point is 00:14:19 They're the worst. Do you know that now they have acupuncturists and chiropractors in Omaha, Nebraska, and vegan guides and things like that? Sure. This is all across the country now. I'm fine with vegan, I'm fine with vegan. There's just something, another level in Santa Monica.
Starting point is 00:14:38 But this is one of the things that parents are raising children. Sometimes they never even touched a child in their lives. Smart people, they're educated. Maybe we're the most educated people in history, but in many ways, parents are the least experienced in taking care of kids. So people are going on the internet
Starting point is 00:14:54 and just trying to learn as best they can, and they're influenced by different people. And so sometimes these kind of overly concerned approach about children comes from people just not having experience. So sometimes these kind of overly concerned approach about children comes from people just not having experience. Now you're a huge anti-vaxxer, right? No. No. I give vaccines to all antis, is that what you mean?
Starting point is 00:15:19 I don't hesitate. If they tell me the kid needs it, I'm like stick them, let's go. There's no debate ever. Listen, I'm old enough that I've seen the effects of children who didn't get vaccinated. Now we have vaccines against disease, even chickenpox. I've seen kids who lost their legs because they got severe infections after chickenpox. Children who have had brain dissolving because they got measles.
Starting point is 00:15:43 These are things that are completely preventable now. And we live in, listen, if you live on a farm by yourself and your neighbors never come over, you can do whatever you want. But when you're living in a culture where you're exposed to other people, you have a responsibility. It's not just me, me, me.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It is us. We've got to protect each other. In your opinion, do you single-handedly bring back swaddling? Yeah, I would say so. By the way, are you flattered in any way, because all of us use our phones when we have a child and like, what does this mean?
Starting point is 00:16:15 And we do our own research, but that so many times the answer to the question is quoted from you. Is that a flattering to you? Really? I didn't know that. I mean, it is. Like the amount of baby searches that you do where you're the answer that everyone agrees with.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Isn't that ridiculous? I mean, it's so odd. Here's the ridiculous thing. We've been around babies for thousands of years. How could anyone figure out something new about babies? You know, I put it out in the world. You can downplay that all you want, but that's impressive. The world is Googling things, you're the answer. That'll bring me back real quickly to a thing
Starting point is 00:16:51 that you once said about why you kind of chose to focus on babies was because focusing on older people, cancer and all of that stuff at the end of life is, I mean, I'm paraphrasing, a little more depressing than kids get better for the most part. That's very much my experience. And the other part of it is that it's very hard to be a doctor and be respectful to older people.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And what I mean by that is that when you, as a doctor, take a history, you're asking, you know, tell me about this pain, tell me about your life, tell me about your work. You have to really learn a lot about people. If you're really gonna be a good doctor, you have to understand their life, not just my toe hurts and you're focusing on that.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And I found that it was really hard because when you have another patient and another one and they're stacking up and you gotta see them, you can't really listen to people. You just don't have the time. And so that was really hard. And babies, they just don't have much. Babies have nothing to say.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Who's the best? They's just chugging through. Cutest race of babies. Oh my gosh, you know what? It's really the mix. And that's not just taking a political answer, but you see children who are Anglo and Asian. Or you're talking about mixing races. That creates the beauty.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It does. Sometimes it backfires. I've seen a few mixed race babies, I'm like, eh, that one didn't work and I feel bad for the parents. Well, you know, nothing's 100%. But the fact of the matter is that the melting pot is really,
Starting point is 00:18:16 it's really a great thing because you're kind of, you mush all the things together and the more you'll get the things you like than the things you don't like. Babies in general, as a parent, you look at your child and you're like, oh my goodness, so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And then time goes by and you look back and you go, oh my goodness, what a monster that came out of us. It was so odd looking. Usually people, it's just the opposite thing. I mean, yeah, sometimes the nose is smooshed and the head is big or whatever, but you know, there are studies that show
Starting point is 00:18:40 that we're attracted to beings that have the big forehead and big eyes and a small chin. There's a cuteness factor that makes you go, oh, that's adorable. We're set up biologically to see babies as being cute and seeing baby animals as being cute because of their big eyes and big foreheads and things like that. Do animals do this as well?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Do you have any idea? Do animals look at other animals in their same species and go, oh, you're an attractive animal versus an ugly animal? I always want to, because the reality is humans all look alike. It's so funny how such subtle things make one person beautiful and another person ugly.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Because you're never supposed to say, oh, all blank look alike. That's certainly a race of people. That's not considered a very proper. Well, that's not right. I mean, maybe it is if you don't know how to look at somebody. I mean, if you look at the specifics of a face,
Starting point is 00:19:32 or you look at the gestalt and, oh, the face is white and the nose is big or small, and he looks like those people, but I think when you get to know a race and you understand the subtleties of it, like, can you tell the difference between someone who's Korean or Japanese? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, so I mean, but someone who's Korean can. Right, well my question is like, do you think pelicans are going, look at that fucking ugly pelican? I'm sure they are, is what I'm saying. But to me, all pelicans look alike. Right, and I bet if you asked everybody in your audience, they would pretty much agree with you.
Starting point is 00:20:06 My audience is, for the most part, idiots. I find it fascinating that you're here because really the reason that you came into our lives or on our radar was because your wife backed in to my producer's car over there. Is that true? That is true, but it was an accident. It was an accident.
Starting point is 00:20:27 She wasn't trying to get me on the show as much as we were excited when we heard about it. That is so funny to me. I was like, how do you know this guy? And he's like, I was just like, I was confused. He goes, nah, his wife bumped into my car and we just started talking. And I was like, oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:20:43 How's your wife doing? She actually just twisted, we were five hours in the hospital a couple of days ago because she twisted her ankle hiking. But thank you for asking. Five hours? Yeah, yeah. On a twisted ankle.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Waiting to get x-rays and stuff. You don't have any pole at a hospital? Are you kidding me? It would have been 15 hours. It was five hours was really great. But now you're making me feel bad, like I'm insignificant. Whoa, I feel like you could have opened some,
Starting point is 00:21:06 I mean, my mom was a nurse for 60 years. If I ever needed stitches, boy, she'd just march me right in. I always felt so cool when I was going in with my mom. And let me tell you another thing. A lot of people might be like, they always ask, like, oh, why are you having this person on? I want you to know, the reason that you're on is because I find you fascinating. You invent the SNU and for those that don't know,
Starting point is 00:21:28 it's a very high-end bassinet. It vibrates, it shakes, it has white noise. It basically helps your child sleep in a safe manner. Correct. Okay. And it's pricey and blah, blah, blah. There's always- Incorrect. Incorrect.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Well, at some point you can get it secondhand. There's a world- You can rent it for $5 a day. I mean, there's always- Incorrect. Incorrect. Well, at some point you can get it secondhand, there's a world- You can rent it for $5 a day. I mean, it's cheaper than a Starbucks. Yeah, $5 a day. I don't drink Starbucks. Okay, blue bottle.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I don't drink coffee. Okay. Do you know why I don't drink coffee? No, I was wondering. Because most people drink coffee because they need to be awake. You know what I do when I'm sleepy? I take a nap.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And to get energized, what do you need to do? No. Just open your eyes. Well, sure. I'm sleepy? I take a nap. And to get energized, what do you need to do? No. Just open your eyes. Well, sure. I'm okay. I've just never been a- People drink coffee for the taste too, but here's the thing, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:22:11 They say that. When you have a baby and you're exhausted, a lot of people are buying coffee because they gotta keep their eyes open, they gotta go to work, they don't wanna get in a car accident. Understood, and that's why I know that I was extremely fortunate
Starting point is 00:22:23 because I had children that slept and I was in a position where I could make work, work around my schedule. And what I did when my baby slept, I slept. Like that was just what I did. It's great if you can do that. But here's the thing, SNHU isn't just about sleeping more. SNHU is about keeping a baby safe
Starting point is 00:22:41 because it prevents them rolling over. It's the only bed that's got this FDA authorization that keeps them on the back. Do you know how many kids, just healthy kids die in the United States? 4,000. 3,400. So close.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I mean. Yeah, yeah. I mean, who's can't? What's 600 babies? Especially if they look like pelicans, right? So. Aw, you're giving me a pelican baby, I'm being loved.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So here's the thing. It's really one of these tragedies in raising children in the United States. That's the number in the United States. Let me ask you, has any baby died in a SNU? Yes. Oh, how many? There are five that we know of.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Okay. So that is- How many people have died in a Tesla? Just out of curiosity. No, but here's the thing. I mean, it's a dramatically less than one would expect in a regular bed Just out of curiosity. No, but here's the thing. I mean, it's dramatically less than one would expect in a regular bed. So the point being that,
Starting point is 00:23:29 and we're not claiming that we prevent SIDS. We don't have the privilege of doing that yet from the FDA, but we do claim that we keep babies on the back, which everybody knows is the number one way to keep babies safe. Did you know that my grandfather died of SIDS? No. The oldest case. Your grandfather, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Can I get into why I don't have a SNU? Yeah. So I had my first child five years ago, and a coworker of mine had a SNU and brought it to work for me, was gonna give it to me for free. His child had grown past that age. And then the show runner on that show, Charlie, for me, was gonna give it to me for free. His child had grown past that age.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And then the show runner on that show, Charlie, he shamed me. He was like, he's like, oh, you don't wanna hold your baby, blah, blah, blah, like, why don't you just embrace it? So then I was like, all right, I'm not above doing it the hard way or whatever. So, you know, and then we had our child and sure enough, kid was a sleeper,
Starting point is 00:24:27 didn't really have much issue. If there was ever a scenario where it was like, we need to try something different, I would have waited two seconds and I would have purchased it at full cost. Rent it at home. I wouldn't have even rented it. Did you have help?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Did you have help in the house? No. No, just you guys. Yeah. But you got to be able to be home during the day and whatnot, you didn't have to rented it. Did you have help? Did you have help in the house? No. No, just you guys. Yeah. But you got to be able to be home during the day and whatnot, you didn't have to go out to work. I mean, I did, I would work, but I wasn't, yes. My schedule was very accommodating. So there's a couple of different things
Starting point is 00:24:57 that we're trying to do with SNHU. One is to help babies sleep longer. We've proven that. We've measured 600 million hours of sleep and we showed that babies automatically sleep an extra hour. But here's a curious thing. By three months of age, a normal three-month-old
Starting point is 00:25:10 will give you a five-hour stretch of unbroken sleep. That's pretty good, pretty average for a three-month-old. In SNU, it's six and a half, almost seven hours of unbroken sleep. In other words, we're maturing the brain two to three months earlier than we ever thought was possible. And what we're studying now is, well, if you can mature the brain to sleep longer, are there other ways that you can mature the brain as well?
Starting point is 00:25:32 So I want to give you an example of that. Kangaroo care. We're off of pelicans now. Kangaroo care. Have you ever heard of that? No, I don't know. I'm guessing it has to do with the mother holding them in the pouch. Yeah, exactly right.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But instead of a pouch, we kind of bind them against the chest. And we do this with little premature babies, like a one pound baby. And you put them on the mother so she, the baby feels the breathing and smells the mother and feels the movement of the day is kept warm. And what has been done now is that we've been doing that for 30 years.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And we measure the brain development of children 15 years later. And what do we see? We see that premature babies have difficulties with some measure the brain development of children 15 years later. And what do we see? We see that premature babies have difficulties with some of their brain development. The earlier you are, you know, the more challenges you're going to have. Kangaroo care improves that and almost all the way to being a regular normal term baby. And so what does that mean? It means that holding and rocking and closeness, those are things that are nurturing for a baby's brain.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It's not just milk. You wanna give them closeness. And so all day long, and I bet you did that, right? Did you hold your baby and carry your baby and give that type of skin to skin? But you do that for 12 hours. The skin to skin feels a little awkward, I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You're always like, oh, am I really doing this? Am I taking off my shirt? So, but anyway. Anyway, it's a super cool thing to do. But anyway, here's the point. The point is that if you feed a baby, but you never hold them and carry them, their brains are not gonna develop normally.
Starting point is 00:26:55 If you do it one hour a day, that's better. Two hours is better than one. Four hours is better than two. So what do we do? 12 hours at night, we have babies in kind of sensory deprivation. They're kind of in dark, still silence. If you ask 1,000 babies, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:09 you wanna be 12 hours by yourself in the dark or held and rocked and shushed. Right, but that's the argument that, I mean, listen, there's a lot of third world countries where everyone sleeps with their baby and that would give you what you're asking for, but then you have the problem of rolling over and killing them.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's right, that's right. So how can you give the baby the nurturing that they're gonna do the best with, but keep them safe as well? Because we started SNU originally, was not even about sleep, it was about how do we keep babies safely on the back. Unfortunately, I've had the experience
Starting point is 00:27:41 of working with families who have lost their babies. You never recover,, you never recover. You just never recover. It is such a horrible, horrible experience. So we're really super excited about keeping babies safer. Yeah, we want to improve sleep at night, but also improve it during the day, because during the day when you're cooking dinner
Starting point is 00:27:59 or taking a shower, most people don't have help in the house, but it used to be that everyone had five nannies, right? When you had your grandmother and your aunt and your older sister living next door to you. I know, but I don't like that either. Why, why? Well, here's, whenever like my wife, we'll have the discussion,
Starting point is 00:28:16 when she'll bring up some other country where, you know, when a mother has a baby in this country for six years, the whole village just rubs her feet. I'm like, okay, there's some trade-offs to our country. We're not all awful. We have some great things here that they don't have there. So yeah, of course, of course, but I mean, you're- We have doctors like you.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But you wanna do it the tough, you wanna trial by fire, you wanna show that you earned your stripes, and you want, I did it the hard way, and I can, you know, trial by fire. You want to show that you earned your stripes and you want, I did it the hard way and I can tell everybody else. So why, and then there's a guy who goes later on and says, you shouldn't be, you'll be just like the show. No, I won't. You shouldn't be doing that.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I won't be like Charlie. Charlie, I'm not gonna be like you. I encourage people to get it. And I'm all for help and family and community, raising the kid. I don't love a lot of people in my house. That's my big objection to nannies and that things. Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:29:10 A SNU or a night nurse? It's not an either or. You can use a night nurse and a SNU because the night- Well then what's that night nurse doing? Changing diapers, feeding, kind of bringing the baby to you to nurse. I mean, I'm not advocating it mind you, but it's good to have help. Listen, do you know what postpartum depression is?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Of course. Okay. Do you know how many women get postpartum depression? 30% is my guess. Not a bad guess. So about 20% in the general population get depression and or anxiety. But in the higher risk populations, inner city folks, single parents, things like that, it's more like 30%.
Starting point is 00:29:45 So you're on target there. 30%, 20 to 30% of all normal mothers get clinical depression? That's like ridiculous. Now what percentage of that do you associate to them not getting a proper night's sleep? A lot of it. So here's a bunch of things that lead
Starting point is 00:30:00 to postpartum depression. Exhaustion, crying babies that you can't come, fear that in the middle of the night, your baby's gonna roll to danger and so you're looking and looking and checking your baby, feeling like there's nobody there to help you and feeling kind of incompetent, like nobody told me how hard this was gonna be,
Starting point is 00:30:17 I had no idea, I wasn't ready for this. I'm just saying that- Yeah, I know, but who's not ready for it? We all know it's hard. We all know it's hard, but you know something, they use crying babies and exhaustion to train Navy SEALs to endure torture. So it isn't just like mildly hard.
Starting point is 00:30:33 If you're going night after night with sleep deprivation, it becomes like torture. My point is that we developed SNU to take care of all of those five things that lead to postpartum depression. So our goal, besides helping the babies and keeping them healthy and keeping them safe and helping to nurture their brains
Starting point is 00:30:49 and preventing them from rolling to their death is how can we support mothers and fathers to be healthy, to kind of be feeling successful instead of overwhelmed, and be able to go to their job every day so they can earn a living and pay for their family. You believe in the fourth trimester. Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:31:04 What about abortions during the fourth trimester? No? My, that was just curious. Oh Daniel, oh Daniel. Sorry about that. You believe in fourth trimester, that's what is, that's just. What did you know, a horse can run the first day of life.
Starting point is 00:31:21 They have to be able to run to survive. If they can't run, they're gonna get eaten or something. A baby, a horse. They eat horses if they don't run? Yes, of course. Are you serious? The wolves, the coyotes. Oh, you're talking about in the wild?
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah. I just thought you were talking about like, in a random, beautiful horse stable. I guess it's lunchtime, that's why you weren't there. No. But you know, the babies are very helpless when they're born. They can't even smile yet.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They can't even follow you across the room. So the only reason we have to kick them out is because their heads are so big. And so we have to deliver them into their fourth trimester and take care of them as if it's a fourth trimester of care inside. That's the concept. But it helps people to know because people used to say,
Starting point is 00:32:05 don't go to the baby when they're crying, you're gonna spoil them, you're gonna make them feel like you know, like they're gonna get everything they want just because they cry. And actually what you're doing in the beginning by going to them and holding them and responding to them quickly is you're building a sense of trust and confidence that they're gonna then carry with them
Starting point is 00:32:23 the rest of their lives. We call this attachment. So it's super important to give to them to meet their needs as much as you can. You can't do everything, but as much as you can in those first six months of life. And later on, you're gonna teach them, well, just because you cry doesn't mean you're gonna get what you want. You know, you can't have the scissors, period of end of story, you know, and you're gonna teach limits at that point.
Starting point is 00:32:43 But you don't need to worry about that in the first six months. The elephant in the room that people will always bring up when looking into your work is that you never had children, yet you're the expert on all babies. Although you do have a daughter, a stepdaughter. Is she works for you now too? She does, yeah, she's our head of marketing. Do you ever swaddle her as an adult just to be funny?
Starting point is 00:33:08 Do people ever say, oh my goodness, how would you relate to them? And that's obviously- Ignorant people say that. I mean, it's like going to a gynecologist who's a man and saying, how can you be a gynecologist? He's been on my show. My wife's OB.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Seriously? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you love to have your brain, live forever, forget that nonsense, but wouldn't you love to have your brain downloaded and then turned back on a couple hundred years from now to see how right or wrong you were about things? Because there's no way we're gonna be doing things
Starting point is 00:33:40 the exact same way that we do now with babies. That's curious, yeah, of course. Of course. Like a time machine. Well, because like it's like, oh, babies sleep on their stomach. Now it's like, oh my God, make sure they're on a, you know, a coffee table. There's just a study that just came out with that. And that says they can sleep on a softer bed. No, it said that what we did by putting them on the back actually
Starting point is 00:34:00 messed up with their sleep. It keeps them safer. It's definitely the only safe position, but babies don't like to sleep on the back. They wake themselves up. You know, my second one, oh my goodness, is about three, maybe four months. I'll lie if this is inappropriate. But once she went over to her stomach
Starting point is 00:34:17 and started, I was like, done. I'm letting her. But here's the thing. And we, you know, I'm old enough that I used to only recommend sleeping on the stomach because we thought if you were on the back, you would vomit and choke and that caused death. It turned out we were 180 degrees wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Babies don't vomit and choke on their back. So that is safe from that point of view, but they don't like being on the back like your daughter. But here's the thing, they are safer on the back. And so why even be forced into that chance? Why not allow a child to sleep well, but sleep safely? And that's really what SNHU is trying to do. I mean, it's weird the compromises you'll make with yourself
Starting point is 00:34:55 for an extra 30 minutes of sleep. That's the torture thing. If my kids are good sleepers, do I get any credit for it as a parent or no? Yeah, you did a fantastic job. I didn't know, well, I didn't know, cause I didn't know if it was one of these things where you're not supposed to take pride over that
Starting point is 00:35:11 because, you know, just because your kid's a bad sleeper doesn't mean you're a bad parent. No, but you know, it's like the first question they ask you, right? When the kid's born, they say, boy or girl, you know, but once you're home, they say, how's your kid sleeping? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, like, you know, you're falling apart. That's why I'm saying it? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, like you're falling apart.
Starting point is 00:35:25 That's why I'm saying it. Well, no, but they always say it like, is your kid sleeping? And then people say, oh, he's sleeping great. And you try to wear that as a badge of honor. But I didn't think that it was actually a badge of honor. Yeah, take it. Take it whenever you can, right?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Well, then I'm amazing. How much is this new? $1,700, brand new? No rebate, no nothing. I just want to buy one off the shelf. That's about what it is. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So you use it for six months. Six months is how long? Yeah, yeah. So that's like $9 a day. So would you pay $9 a day for an hour or two more sleep? I know you wouldn't want it at all. I'll buy one of those fancy mattresses with the plaid. What are they?
Starting point is 00:36:06 $100,000. What are they called? Hastens? Hastens or whatever. You know, in Beverly Hills, they have a store. The horsehair one. Yes, the horse. You have a horsehair mattress?
Starting point is 00:36:15 I don't have one. No, no, no. I just have a Tempur-Pedic. I sleep on a, just on a table like this. No, you don't. You like a firm bed? I do like a firm bed. Do you have it elevated slightly?
Starting point is 00:36:24 No. I have mine. I have two, I have three-inch risers. No, little acid reflex, I guess. All right, that helps. Do you ever own a water bed in your life? Yeah, I did. You did? Yeah. The worst night's sleep ever.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I hate it. Yeah, I hate it, exactly right. See, it's like I have to take dramamine every night. How many hours a night are you sleeping? Six, seven. You know, when you're older, it's less? You don't need as much, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Oh man, I'm way more. What time do you go to bed? Usually 11, 12. Do you nap? Sometimes, yeah. Do you like to nap? Yeah. I love a nap. Yeah, a nap is good.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I nap almost every day. Do you? Almost every day. That's good. My favorite thing is when I read an article where it tells you like, oh, the healthiest thing you can do is get lots of sleep. And I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 00:37:04 That's right, doctor's orders. My wife and I sleep and our kids sleep. It's, you know, people are you like, oh, the healthiest thing you can do is get lots of sleep. And I'm like, oh. That's right, doctor's orders. My wife and I sleep and our kids sleep. It's, you know, people are always like, oh, you should have the same religion or you have to have a lot in common. I don't know if we have a lot in common, but we both love sleeping. And that has proved to make a good marriage.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Colic, it's a broad term for prolonged crying or fussiness. Can wives have colic? It depends on their husbands, I would assume. Because there's just, sometimes I just don't understand how she can be so loud for so long. Well, so the word colic comes from the same word as colon, meaning, you know, intestine, right? And so for thousands of years, people have said,
Starting point is 00:37:44 well, colic, the babies just cry, they get red in the face, they grunt and sort of go, hmm, I think that their stomach is bothering them. But here's the way that you know it isn't that. It's that when the baby is really fussy, and sometimes we say, drive him around in the car, and they fall asleep in the car. Well, a car is not gonna make pain go away, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:02 or bouncing on a yoga ball, things like that. So it turns out for the most part, Kalec is a child who is really sensitive, and they don't have enough calming rhythms. I mean, if you hold and rock your child all day long, they're much less fussy. So you kind of pay it in before they get fussy in the evening.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You're retired, or you're not practicing, Dr. N. No, I'm not seeing patients. Right, but you run this new empire? Run this new business, doctor. No, I'm not seeing patients. Right, but you still run this new empire? Run this new business, yeah. So the happiest baby is our business. Whenever you say this new, you always say we. That seems nice, but are you really the single person that invented it?
Starting point is 00:38:36 I had the idea, but to turn an idea, it's like my wife's uncle is an incredibly successful CEO, pharmaceutical guy, and he said, give me a great idea, I'll give you a dollar, make it work, I'll give you a million. Having the idea is one thing, but you need engineers. And this was actually difficult. This was very difficult to design.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Oh, no, I can imagine. And my wife, God bless her, is like, there'd be no company without her. She found our factories, raised our money, hired our executive team. She has been just incredible. So it really is a team. And my daughter actually-
Starting point is 00:39:09 That sounds like somebody that doesn't have a prenup. She has trust. She has trust. Okay, but when it comes down to it, you're the one that would make the final decision if this company were to be sold. Weren't you offered 100 million or something crazy and you said no thank you?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, we were in the very beginning because we didn't want a company to screw it up. I love everything about you. Do you ever read reviews of your product on like Yelp? Yeah, sure. Do you ever write to them? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:42 No, it's not, there's no, there's only pain and suffering and trying to get into those dialects. Listen, it's not, there's no, there's only pain and suffering and trying to get into those dialects. Listen, here's what my mother told me. She said, if there's no controversy, you haven't introduced anything new. So don't worry about controversy. And so people, you know, and listen,
Starting point is 00:39:58 no one product works for everybody, but this works like 98%. The only real controversy with you is, that I've seen is that you're, oh, you attach to a lot of celebrities at the beginning, people said that that wasn't, whatever, and then it wasn't obtainable for everybody, now you've over, you've stead $5 a day or something like that.
Starting point is 00:40:23 But yeah, and our goal is everyone gets it for free. I mean, thousands of people get a free snoo from their employer. So anyone who's listening can go to their employer. What employers are good at this? JP Morgan Chase, Under Armour, Snapchat. Under Armour? I'm not going to work for Under Armour just for a snoo.
Starting point is 00:40:38 How about Sonicburgers, which is with that? National Air Traffic Controllers Union, which is- Sonicburgers gives free snoo's? Yeah. That's pretty nice. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, the point being that our goal is everyone's gonna get it for free. So insurance will cover it.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Now we're starting to work with Medicaid programs so that the most at-risk populations can get this. Because the goal, like you said, I'm 72. I mean, I'm not a startup guy, I'm not a roboticist, I'm not a techie guy. I'm here, my wife and I really started this, and this is just the way it is. We started this because it was a robotist, I'm not a techie guy. I'm here, my wife and I really started this, and this is just the way it is. We started this because it was a serious problem,
Starting point is 00:41:08 and it wasn't getting better year after year. In the last 20 years, you know how many babies have died of SIDS? It's the same number of American babies as American soldiers who died in Vietnam. I mean, it's just absolute travesty, and so that's why we started this, because we thought we could make a difference.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So now the goal is to get everybody to get it for free, and we're working hard to do that, and it'll be paid for by the insurance folks. I heard Beyonce bought 36 of them. Is that true? No comment. All right, why'd you name it SNU? When we tested it out, people smiled
Starting point is 00:41:40 when they said the word SNU, so that's kind of a positive thing. We have the five S's, we wanted this to be one of the S's. Do you know about the five S's also? I just want to kind of a positive thing. We have the five S's. We wanted this to be one of the S's. Do you know about the five S's also? I just want to cover that. Yes, I know about the five S's. Sarcasm, do you do that?
Starting point is 00:41:50 That always works with my child. Yes, good personality. Sneezing. You should never sneeze in a baby's face. That's a bad idea. The five S's. Shh, shh, shh. That's, of course that's one.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Swaddle. What's this? Swinging. Swinging, okay. Sucking and the side stomach position. Sarcasm isn't one of them though, interesting. So everyone knows you'll hold a baby rock then it's gonna work, but why does it work? They get dizzy?
Starting point is 00:42:17 Did you ever fall asleep like on a long haul airplane flight or in a car? Yes. So all adults do that, they like to rock in hammocks. We like the sound of the wind. I don't love a hammock. You don't? Okay, well, rocking on the ocean,
Starting point is 00:42:30 do you like that feel? No? You don't in a boat? Boats, no, no, I don't like that either. No, okay. I don't nap at sea often. You ever been on a cruise? Yeah, yeah, I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You cruise? No, no, I've been on, personal cruise, personal cruise. Oh, right, you've been on a yacht. The right way, the right way. You've been on some oligarchs. They always want a doctor on board. How many Russian oligarchs have asked you to be their primary care physician? I cannot give you information.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I got you. You know, the cool thing about it, one of the things that I really enjoy about the 5S is, and actually, Back to the 5Ss. You know, what is the reason that the 5Ss work? Well, it imitates the uterus. But why does the imitating the uterus work?
Starting point is 00:43:09 And this was actually the kind of thing that I really discovered. This was the aha moment, which is that babies are born with lots of reflexes. That's a built-in software so that they survive. Like you don't teach a baby to suck or to swallow. They know how to do that all on their own. You don't teach them how to cry.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But it turns out they're born with an off switch for crying. And that off switch is activated by imitating the womb. And the reason that that's so important, the entire survival of the species is dependent upon babies having that off switch. Because if they're swimming around too much before they're born, they'll get stuck in a sideways position or in a breech position
Starting point is 00:43:48 where their head is up and their feet are down and then they get stuck coming out and they die and they kill their mothers. So all of us are descendants of these zen little babies who are kind of put into a trance by the rhythms and the sound of the womb. The whole reason that you have mantras or that people like to rock,
Starting point is 00:44:05 you know how you see people with their legs going back and forth when they're nervous and kind of jittery? And they shake the table. And they shake the table. It's infuriating. I know, it's annoying, but it's soothing for them. And all of that is really related
Starting point is 00:44:18 to this very ancient part of our biology. There's the book, The Happiest Baby on the Block, which I kind of don't recommend people read because there's a video. I mean, it's a great book and it's got interesting stuff, but to really learn the five S's, you got to watch it. And so there's a video we have that teaches that it's kind of like learning how to tie your shoelaces. You know, you're going to learn it better by watching somebody than by reading a book about it. How hard is it to learn shh, shh, shh, shh, and then snuggly and huggy and... So here's the kind of nuance to it, right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 It's on the side, rolled towards the stomach, not rolled towards the back. So people oftentimes mess that up, or they have to swaddle arms tight, but legs loose. And the shushing, how loud you do the shushing, people all the time are, you know, like what you just said, the shh, shh, shh. That's not the way it is for babies.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Because inside the womb before babies are born, which is what you're imitating, it's louder than a vacuum cleaner. How do you know? It's been measured. It's science. Oh, got it. I didn't know they could measure it.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I didn't know they could measure it. I didn't know they could measure it. Okay. No, listen, I go as loud as I need to break her or him out of whatever they're in. Yeah, but people when they do that, they go, I feel bad, like I'm saying shut up or something like that. No.
Starting point is 00:45:31 But you have to, you're exactly right. You go to the level of their crying and then you kind of bring them down for a soft landing. All right, see, I don't have to read it or watch it. Yeah, you're a natural. I give everybody that's on my show a gift, but I have to grab it over here. It's not a real gift. It's just something from my house that I don't want gift, but I have to grab it over here. It's not a real gift.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's just something from my house that I don't want anymore. And then they have to take it. Do you like massages? No. Okay. Oh, it's Theragun. Well, Theragun is sort of- I figured it's like a massage,
Starting point is 00:46:00 but it's a machine that does it for you, much like the SNU is a person rocking you. You can just have the, I never liked this. Somebody got me this. I'm like, I'm not using this. I like a real massage. You give yourself a happy ending with this, you're gonna get hurt.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So here, you can take my massage gun. Thank you so much. That's incredibly generous. Wait, I have more things for you. I forgot. I have, this is, you ever do use like a face mist before you go to bed? It's supposed to help you sleep, like a spray.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Is it lavender or something? I don't, yes, exactly. I don't like the smell of this one. So I'm gonna give that to you. And this is just some essential oils called Unwind. It's gonna help you sleep more. And you hate this one too. I don't like that one either.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Thank you so much. I'm gonna get this off one too. I don't like that one either. Thank you so much. I'm gonna get this off my table. You wrote happiest baby on the block, happiest toddler on the block. Any plans on publishing happiest slash sometimes depressed slash most awkward teenager on the block? You know something? That is the toddler book.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Teenagers and toddlers have a lot in common. Toddler starts at one and goes till when? Starts at eight months. Eight months. And goes up to, you know, 70s, 80s. I mean, listen, everyone becomes a toddler when they get upset enough, right? They throw a fit and they're not reasonable
Starting point is 00:47:18 and they can't hear what you're saying. Toddlers are between being an infant and being a kid. And they wanna do things that they can't quite do yet, but then they fall and they cry like little babies. They're going back and forth. Teenagers, I wanna be a kid and I wanna be an adult. I don't wanna clean up my room, can I have the car keys? It is really trying to find their way
Starting point is 00:47:39 to make the jump into adulthood. So a lot of the way you communicate actually is very, very similar. Have you checked out Happiest Toddler on the Block? No. So you don of the way you communicate actually is very, very similar. Have you checked out Happiest Toddler on the Block? No. So you don't like any of my work, basically. No, no. You're just avoiding me.
Starting point is 00:47:51 No, I, like here's, I married someone that is so smart that I- You just delegated. I did. You're out surfing. I delegated it and I went surfing. You're not wrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's like, I have so much confidence in... Now, here I have tons of experience with babies. I have a large family. They all had children early. I've always been around babies. I was... Babysitting was my key source of income from like 11 years on.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I've just always been very comfortable around kids. Well, and not to brag that my kids are better than all of their friends, but like they are the, we have a large group of friends in our neighborhood. My kids are the only ones that get jokes and when somebody is serious and not serious. Like they can just tell. If I tell another kid, go to sleep right now,
Starting point is 00:48:51 like they'll just be like, they'll shriek. My kid knows that's not real. Yeah, yeah, because you've taught them that over and over and over again, right? That's the lesson. Oh, you gotta teach them. You gotta teach them how to get jokes. All that stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And also not to take, you know, that I mean like little kids love to negotiate with you and learn how to negotiate so that, oh no, that's too hard, you're asking too much for me. I can't, oh, oh, okay, you drove a hard bargain. Okay, I will give you one Cheerio if you brush your teeth, you know, and you make it, make them feel like they're winning out through this negotiation.
Starting point is 00:49:22 So you don't want to take it so, so seriously that everything is earnest and heavy. My kid's not going to do shit for one Cheerio, all right? Okay, Dan, two Cheerios, you win. No, it's better to be at least Honey Nut Cheerios, or he's not even getting out of bed. If you wanted to see the future, read The Happiest Toddler, because you will understand ways to communicate with kids
Starting point is 00:49:48 that people who'd like preschool teachers and pediatricians who do this as a profession are able to do to get kids to cooperate and stuff like that. Like in my practice, I had a reputation in Santa Monica for being the doctor that if your kid hated doctors and was scared of doctors, that I would help them get over that. Because it's all about how you communicate
Starting point is 00:50:07 and approach them. And I bet as a comedian, you already have a lot of skills that you're using because you don't take it all so seriously and so earnestly, which is half of the problem, right? People are just so incredibly, you know, oh, I don't want to hurt their feelings, or oh, I can't make them do this or that.
Starting point is 00:50:22 And you don't take the responsibility of being a parent. And so part of what I talk about in the book is how do you set limits and how do you, you know, do the tough things that you have to do as a parent because you're not their friend, you're their parent. I'm also their friend. Maternity leave, it's bad in this country. Paternity leave also, how long should people
Starting point is 00:50:43 get off from work to focus on their newborn baby? A year is a good amount of time. Holy cow. I mean, here's an interesting thing that's going on. Everyone knows about the climate crisis, you know, bad things are happening there. Not a lot of people know about the population cliff, which means that there aren't enough babies being born.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I know you've advocated having fewer babies being born. Have I? Yeah. I'm sure I've made a joke about it. I have two children. John over here keeps spitting out kids every week. So here's the thing, in a lot of countries the population has dropped. In the United States it's dropped 20% over the last decade. But in some places like Korea, Japan, Italy, even China now, it's plummeting. And what that means is 20 or 30 years from now, you're not gonna have people to pick up the garbage, to do all the jobs, to pay the taxes.
Starting point is 00:51:33 It's all gonna be a bunch of old people and nobody to take care of them. 20, 30 years ago, we worried about overpopulation. It has shifted like a 180, and now it's a very serious international problem. Are you saying though that there's going to be more land, affordable land available for my kids future? That's not all bad.
Starting point is 00:51:52 No, it isn't. So there's a silver lining for the Tosh's. Everybody else is screwed. Oh, the Tosh's. Oh, they finally catch a break. Dr. Karp, thank you very much for being here today. I appreciate it. So good to meet you, Daniel.
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Starting point is 00:52:45 There were a lot of red flags and it did take me eight years to get there, but I got there. The challenge of self-care. This is important, because now you're about to be a mom of two kids. And making friends as an adult. We're gonna share our struggles
Starting point is 00:52:58 just white knuckling through life, babe. We're gonna speak to experts and we're gonna share everything we learn with you. Listen to more better with Stephanie and Melissa as part of the Michael Duda podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, I'm Mark. I'm Greg. I'm Brendan. And this is a trailer for a new podcast called Get It to Dutch, a screenwriter's journey. It's about screenwriting. And a journey. The three of us play aspiring screenwriters on a quest to get a hit Hollywood script to famous producer, Dutch Huxley.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Well, I would say one of us is aspiring and the other two are sort of struggling. Which one of us is aspiring? Well, they're gonna have to listen to the podcast. Hmm, but I don't know and I made the podcast. Well, I made the podcast and I think you guys were along for the ride. Each week we bring in a script, we read it and then we give each other notes.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And you'll also hear about our adventures navigating the Hollywood system. The show features amazing guests like Tim Robinson, Lily Sullivan, Weird Al Yankovic and Rob Hubel. Unlike any great blockbuster, it's filled with heartbreak, adventure, suspense and just a little tasteful nudity. And some distasteful nudity. Oh yeah, sorry about that guys. Listen to Get It to Dutch, a screenwriter's journey on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:54:12 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm home. Everyone knows that it's dad's job to be a bit of a joker. Sorry I'm late everyone. There was an accident at the factory. Monty fell into the upholstery machine. Don't worry though, he's fully recovered. Good one dad.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Did you get the pizza for dinner? So he likes to keep everyone happy with some dad jokes. Yep, right here. I had a coupon and it saved me a lot of dough. Well, the truth is, Dad is just a fun guy. Hey, I'm not a mushroom. Please stop. Where does he get these stupid jokes from? He listens to the Daily Dad Jokes podcast.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Oh great, more dad jokes for me. We've delivered over 15,000 jokes to over 3 million listeners and man, the postage fees are killing us. Listen to the Daily Dad Jokes podcast every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I want to thank Dr. Carp. Good stuff. I learned a lot, but it doesn't matter now because my kids are past the age. Now, if I have a third child, good stuff. I learned a lot, but it doesn't matter now because my kids are past the age. Now if I have a third child, shoot me. Here's a good guest.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Carl, why are you sitting over here? You wanna tell everybody why? Cause your birthday's coming up. His birthday's this week. Carl's gonna be three years old. Send us some stuff. You know the problem with our podcast is now? It's reached like my outer circle.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Well, so I got an inner circle, right? Which is just the people I see constantly, friends of, then there's this outer circle of people I know. And then they kind of keep coming up to me. The other day, like a guy goes, oh my goodness, you know, so and so. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I know. And he goes, you got to have him on your podcast. He's not a celebrity. He's he'd be perfect.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And I just like looked at him like, oh no, I don't think he would. I don't find him interesting at all. Or I'll get this. I get this a lot now, Eddie, people, I could never be a guest on your podcast. I could never do it. And I'm like, yeah, no shit. I would never ask you. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:56:29 We've got some tour dates. Make sure you come see me do stand-up comedy. Carl will be there. What else? Boyswearpink.com. If you want to get something cute for your little one. What else else Carl? Like a puppet.
Starting point is 00:56:46 What else? What else buddy? What else? Oh, that goat? New episode. What episode are we on now? How many more are there? When are we?
Starting point is 00:56:56 Are we at the penultimate? Do you know what the penultimate means? It's the second to last. I always feel smart whenever I say penultimate. Oh brother. Well, got another bedtime story for my son. I'll see you guys next week. Happy birthday, Carl.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Give me one quick story before mom reads, go ahead. Hmm. Just a short one. Once upon a time, in a little small land, where there were tree growing everywhere, a big little tractor decided that he would only be a flaper. He would only flaper the grass so it would be flat. So he could draw it. So one day he decided to be a push tractor.
Starting point is 00:57:49 So he got a saddle. He pushed it all the way through the plant so they would grow high and tall. So but he decided as he was going would be a mail truck one day. He would then dress up as a mail truck and put mail into the tin mail. And he would say, here's your mail. Everyone decided to get mail. Boo, it's Halloween. You tell me. But the only thing he didn't know after was the milk die. He was milked.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Any time the milk die, like if anybody would drink the milk and they walked away from the table. The milkman would do this. This was the hamburger. But the milkman, as he didn't know, there was a little cake he set. And then he fell down to the milk cake. He saw a way to get out of the milk cave. D-M-E. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:08 That's a good story. More, more, more, more, more better. Hey, I'm Melissa Fumero and I'm Stephanie Beatriz. You may know us from television. Nine, nine. And now we're here with our very own podcast, More Better with Stephanie and Melissa. Join us as we take on topics like listening to yourself,
Starting point is 00:59:26 the challenge of self-care, and making friends as an adult. We're going to share our struggles. We're going to speak to experts, and we're going to share everything we learned with you. Listen to More Better with Stephanie and Melissa on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you love comedy movies and Hollywood satire, you're going to want to listen to a brand new podcast called Get It to Dutch.
Starting point is 00:59:47 In Get It to Dutch, we play three aspiring screenwriters on a quest to get a script to big time Hollywood producer Dutch Huxley. Each week on the podcast, we perform a movie script right before your ears. It's like going to a movie with your eyes closed. And we have amazing guest stars, including Tim Robinson, Rob Hubel, Lily Sullivan, Jamie Moyer and Weird Al Yankovic. Listen to Get It to Dutch, a screenwriter's journey on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Get emotional with me, Radhita Vlukya, in my new podcast, A Really Good Cry. We're going to be talking with some of my best friends. I didn't know we were going to go there on this. People that I admire. When we say listen to your body, really tune in to what's going on. Authors of books that have changed my life. Now you're talking about sympathy, which is different than empathy, right? Never forget, it's okay to cry as long as you make it a really good one.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Listen to A Really Good Cry with Radhita Vlukya on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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