Tosh Show - My Dog Whisperer - Kassidy King

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Daniel sits for dog trainer Kassidy to learn about positive reinforcement, overcrowded shelters, and how she rescued over 100 dogs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:32 Tosh Show for Show! Hey everybody, it's Tosh Show Tuesday! Woo! Eddie, how are you? I'm good, how are you? I'm great. How long did it take you to get here today? Uh, hour and a half. Hour forty-five. This is the first day that you came here to Malibu via the Pacific Coast Highway, the PCH, after the fires closed.
Starting point is 00:02:54 How traumatic was it? It's different. It's sad. You don't want to go though. You said you haven't done it yet, right? You're not going to do it? No, I don't drive through the burn areas right now. But I would like to point out, I'm not saying that I put a mouth on it and caused all of this
Starting point is 00:03:08 But remember when I said the fix to making PCH safer was to slow the speed limit down Considerably right and not allow people to park on the side of the highway Well currently the PCH the speed limit has been dropped to 25 miles an hour. You are not allowed to park anywhere on the side. And guess what? Zero deaths. Yep. So, I guess, I mean, it seems odd that I would want this in this current moment, but you're
Starting point is 00:03:40 welcome. By the way, the wildfires, and rightfully so, have gotten tons of global coverage. You know, they always talk about, well, what's important is life, and you don't want people to die, so all the other stuff can be replaced and then we had another tragedy in DC with that flight that collided with the helicopter and 67 people were killed. I mean I'm just pointing out that in the fires 29 people were killed global coverage twice as many people killed on American Eagle
Starting point is 00:04:26 flight, and it's less. And I'm just saying one of those was life and the other is about a lot of stuff. The point that I'm making here is that we do care about stuff. We don't care about people as much as we should. Whoa! Wasn't ready for that? Heavy take on Tosh Show. I mean you gave up on stuff a long time ago. Oh man. You've been out. I got a lot of stuff. I gotta get rid of it. In even bigger news, Luca to the Lakers. Well as a lifelong Laker hater, this couldn't be more perfect for me. Oh is he easy to hate? Are you telling me for the next decade I get to watch him go like this after every non-call? I was fouled look at my fat pasty body you can see the marks
Starting point is 00:05:25 And I as a twofer, you know, it also knocks down a few more people in the pecking order of Laker great. You have LeBron and you're going to have Luca. You had Shaq, Kareem, Magic, James Worthy, and then Kobe. Wow. He pushes him out. Kobe getting knocked all the way down. I'll take your comments off air.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I don't know. Luca, they say he just couldn't stay in shape. And now he's going to the Lakers where a 40 year old LeBron James spends $1 million. Who's his physical therapist? Dr. Evil? $1 million a year to keep LeBron at 40 in top physical condition. famously during the off season, I'm told, has two dozen Slovenian sausages a day. That's his regiment. You don't want to guard a man that's had a couple dozen Slovenian sausages sweating out
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Starting point is 00:06:50 You won't believe this. I have another poop story. We gotta start, there's gonna be a sting for these now. All right, let's create a sting for the poop stories. Poop story number 341. I feel like because I talk about it that more and more poop related things are entering my life. Now I've told you in the past that my
Starting point is 00:07:14 beloved Carl has occasionally dabbled in the poop cuisine. He's had one of my daughter's turds a time or two. Well, as you know, I bought a pig. I didn't, but the wife and her cousin did. And this pig, when he was brought into our lives at a, I think at eight weeks old, was seven pounds. Okay, now we're at four months in. He's currently 25 pounds and oh my goodness, we'll eat any dog poop that's in the yard.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So I'm like, now, whenever my dogs go, everyone has, uh, strict instructions to quickly bag it before potato gets it. Okay. to quickly bag it before Potato gets it. Okay, well the other day I have a pile of these bagged dog droppings that I save for the gardener to get rid of. Well, Potato found that area, ripped into the bags. There's probably 10, 15 bags, each bag probably two to five poops. That's how I do it. You know, you pick one or two or three up, depends on how small they are,
Starting point is 00:08:32 when you're cleaning up the yard. My educated guess is he probably ate, you know, his body weight in poop. So now I have to like bag it and get rid of it and put it into the trash can. It's all, it's a lot of work. By the way, this pig still sleeps in my bedroom. Cutest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I'm pretty sure this is how Ava, my old dog, is going to die because she, her weight is less and less. She's probably eight or nine pounds now. She sleeps in her dog bed and then the 25 pound pig crawls on top of her and basically suffocates her all night long and she tends to love it. They constantly are spooning. I got a photo of her putting her little paw over the top of the pig. They just they sleep together constantly. By the way, he doesn't sometimes they don't even wait for the dogs to go poop.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I've caught him going up to Ava while she was napping and just eating from the tap. Oh, just come on. Yeah, couldn't believe it. Potato's eating ass. Like he's some kind of Mormon with the poop hole loop hole. It's unacceptable. I don't know, I should ask today's guest how to fix the pig pooping problem,
Starting point is 00:09:52 but they're gonna say the same thing. They would just, well, make sure you pick it all up. Well, okay, but now I have to like follow multiple pets around and, oh no, they went to the bathroom quick before Hungry Hungry Potato gets over here. Enjoy.
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Starting point is 00:13:15 If there is a heaven, my guest today would get in without a problem. She's rescued over a hundred dogs from being euthanized and now trains pooches full time right here in Los Angeles. She's a real treat to have on today's show. Please welcome Cassidy. That was great, thank you. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. Do you believe in ghosts?
Starting point is 00:13:32 I believe in spirit guides, so is that the same thing? Yes. Okay, then yes. Do you believe in dog ghosts? Yeah. So like every species on the planet has their own ghost after death? I don't know, I go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Sometimes I think some things reincarnate into something else and other things stay as ghosts. Good to know. I feel like that's- Still figuring it out. Well, you let me know when you get there. I will. Where are you originally from? I am from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:14:03 How long did you live there? I lived there until I was 18, and then I moved to Duluth, Minnesota, where I went to college and stayed a few years after. Very cold. One of my screensavers on an old computer was my dog that was walking on a pier with a little tiny lighthouse at the end of it
Starting point is 00:14:23 and that was in Duluth. You've been to Duluth? Sure. I love it. How else would that story be relevant? I don't know if you photoshopped your dogs into it. No one's photoshopping Duluth. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Duluth is so beautiful. I always say it's a hidden gem of the Midwest. Do you know what I'm talking about, the little lighthouse? Yes, of course, in Canal. Yeah, little lighthouse. Oh man, I in Canal. Yeah, a little lighthouse. Oh man, I remember that. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Do you still have family in Tulsa? I do, all my whole family's in Tulsa. Tulsa, I mean, just a real awful town. True or false? True, I don't love it. I think everyone says it's up and coming. What? I feel like it's 15 years behind.
Starting point is 00:15:04 No one has ever said Tulsa's up and coming. What? I feel like it's 15 years behind. No one has ever said, everyone's there. No one has ever said Tulsa is up and, Tulsa. Everyone there says it's up and coming. I still think it's 10, 15 years behind. There used to be a crappy comedy club that I worked as a young comedian in Tulsa,
Starting point is 00:15:17 and it was a, it shared a building with a nightclub. It's probably still there. Well, and the nightclub, at the time, played a lot of heavy bass, hip hop music. And it was just funny because I'd be performing and you'd just hear bass coming through the walls. And I was like, this is not good.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I haven't been because I was 18 when I left, so I've never really gone out in Tulsa Well sure did this this is way before your time. It might still be there though favorite college football team Sooners I didn't I didn't know if you're like, I don't care at all But you I mean I don't watch it but sure I feel like my favorite Sooners game was what that game It was like a couple years ago, maybe it was longer, where the, after they scored, that trailer flipped over and the girl flew out, horses were just dragging her around. Yep, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Oh, that was delightful. That was delightful. So you finish in Duluth, what did you study? Communications. With dogs? No, no, no. They do have degrees for that kind of stuff now though. Do they really?
Starting point is 00:16:29 I don't know. I've heard of it. That's a better answer. I haven't endeavored. Okay. So you had a degree in communications. I used to tell people I had a minor in communications, but I don't think I did. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I think I just lied about it. Why did I lie about that? Did you have a major? Yeah, I had a degree in marketing. Probably not. I think I just lied about it. Why did I lie about that? Did you have a major? Yeah, I had a degree in marketing. Oh, they're very similar. There's a lot of overlap. I'm sure I had classes in communications, but didn't. All right, so what was your big plan when you were in college?
Starting point is 00:16:57 I did not have one. My plan was to get out of college as soon as possible. That was my plan. Yeah, so. Did you finish early? Yes, I graduated at 20 and... Was that a full year early? It was a full year early.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And I didn't really know what I wanted to do. I was waiting tables at the time, and I just kind of stayed in Duluth waiting tables. And I guess the way I got into dogs, I kind of went, I call it the rescue rabbit hole. You kind of spiral when you get into the rescue world, I found, for me at least. And I basically saw a disconnect where I'm from in Tulsa.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Dogs are buy one, get one from the shelter and they're like $10 and there's just a ton of strays, kind of like Southern California. So they're being euthanized a lot. And then I would take them to Minnesota to be adopted where dogs cost way more to adopt so real quick
Starting point is 00:17:53 Dogs aren't euthanized in Southern California. Yeah, they are. Yeah, there's a lot of overcrowding in the shelters Oh, man, especially in like Bakersfield. Okay We'll get into whether I consider Bakersfield, Southern California, but fair enough. So you started illegally adopting dogs in Tulsa, bringing them up to Minnesota, the great folks of Minnesota, and charging them $700 per dog. No, I did not charge. I only charged what I... To cover your expenses.
Starting point is 00:18:27 To cover the expenses. And to be honest, most of the time I never collected. So you were just rescuing dogs? Yeah. Did you ever see that real depressing movie with what's her name? Who... That's how I talk about people because I never know actors' names. From SNL. And she...
Starting point is 00:18:42 What was her name? She's the one that smelled her armpits. Molly Shannon, and then she just went on this, got just, her life just became about helping rescue dogs, and then at the end of it, it's just like her happy, kind of, it's just depressing, the whole movie, and she has thousands of dogs with her. Was she happy with the thousands of dogs?
Starting point is 00:19:00 I don't know, I don't know. What's the name of this movie? Year of the Dog. No, I haven't seen it. One thing about me is I haven't seen a lot of movies. There's no, nobody has seen this movie. They're all freaking out right back there that I pulled this movie from a Rolodex of randomness
Starting point is 00:19:15 that I've seen. I'll check it out. Anyway, it might be your life story. I hope it's not, to be honest. It was depressing. I hope it's not my last story. Have you ever smelled your armpits? Don't we all?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Doing yoga, I don't know, laying there? No, I don't do yoga. Do you ever lay like this? Oh yeah, if it's ripe, I call in the wife immediately. What does she do? I'm like, oh I got a good one. She's like, what? I'm like, smell this.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And she's like, ah. You know, that's what we do. I have smells are my thing. I like smells. Foul and otherwise. Say what you will. I don't care. Judge me.
Starting point is 00:19:54 How many back and forths did you do from Tulsa to Duluth? I have to... I have not counted. I'd have to look at my archives. A dozen? Probably. It got to a point where I would just do it like I would come home for Thanksgiving because I didn't tell my parents I was doing this because they didn't want them to worry.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah, yeah. At first it was like a drug mule but with pooches. Yeah. And I would drive, break it up into days. Sometimes we'd sneak into a motel in Iowa. Who's we? Me and the docs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Me, myself and the docs. Oh my goodness. And then we'd finish and the dogs. Okay. Me, myself and the dogs. Oh my goodness. And then we finished driving the car. You bring this stuff up on a first date by chance? No, I actually don't talk about it, to be honest. I just started talking about it again. I got to a point where they started driving the dogs.
Starting point is 00:20:36 They would drive them to Iowa or they would drive them to Wisconsin. Your folks? No, the rescue. Sorry, like people from the shelter. So there's people who commit their whole lives to transporting these dogs across the country. It's insane, but they'll basically load up a huge Sprinter van of like 50 dogs, crates stacked on top of each other,
Starting point is 00:20:54 and they drive them across the country to go to northern shelters where there's not... There's more demand. Why is Tulsa so littered with stray dogs? I have theories. I think it's just the South because... Do you consider Tulsa the South? No, but it's warmer climates. So it's warm enough for animals to survive in.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So a lot of people, if they are torn between getting rid of their dog, there's no one to take the dog, they can either dump the dog or take them to a shelter and they're probably gonna be euthanized at the shelter, then they're just gonna dump the dog because then that dog can at least go and live their life in nature. And then if they're not spayed and neutered, then they procreate and then we have a plethora of dogs. Whereas in the North, if you were faced with the same concept or same problem, dilemma,
Starting point is 00:21:40 you wouldn't dump your dog because you know that dog would just freeze to death and that would just be wrong. I grew up always having dogs. Okay, but you're not going to like this story. That's okay. Okay, but I'm a huge dog advocate now, but when my parents moved constantly and whenever we moved, my dad just got rid of our dog. Like the dog didn't come with us.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It was very common. And I was always like, I never even thought to beg, well, why wouldn't we just bring our dog? He's like, you're not going to bring a St. Bernard to Florida. And I'm like, well, fair enough. That's not terrible, though. I know, but let me tell you, it wasn't like he went and sought out a good family.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It was just the dog just is gone. Yeah. Well, that's one scenario. One time my rabbit, my mom's like, well, we're moving, you can't bring your rabbit. I'm like, well, why can't I bring? That wasn't even a conversation. That's so sad, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Listen, a lot of this stuff is the issues that you see before you. But now, I mean, good grief, I get so attached. Yeah, you'd never. And I don't even care about the pain that I go through when one of them dies. I just keep doing it. I'm like, whatever, here we go again.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, it's pretty excruciating. Oh, it's rough. So for example, when COVID hit, it was all the shelters in Minnesota were emptied because people were staying at home and they had time to go foster a dog or adopt a dog. I mean, the whole country almost got rid of all of our shelter dogs during COVID.
Starting point is 00:23:07 In Tulsa, the problem doubled because people were thinking that their dogs were gonna give them COVID. Oh, see, okay. I didn't even know about those people. It got really bad in Tulsa around that time. And also, not even just that, but then people couldn't, they got laid off, they couldn't afford their dog. They couldn't afford another mouth to feed, so then they they got laid off, they couldn't afford their dog.
Starting point is 00:23:25 They couldn't afford another mouth to feed, so then they would dump their dog because they didn't have a job. So I think it's a, I do think that if people's needs were met, then they wouldn't need to get rid of their dogs when times got hard. You know what rabbit hole I used to go down? What?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I don't do it anymore, but I used to go down adopting children. You'd like look into foster kids and you'd see these videos that they make of themselves and they're cute, they're doing the big song and dance. Like, I'm great, come on, give me a home. And it would just tear me apart, but I'd watch these videos.
Starting point is 00:24:00 But then what happened was years would go by and I'd see the same kids four years later, like me and my sister still looking for a family and it was just, it's just heartbreak. That would be horrible. Oh, it's horrible. You just see them age. That's at 20. I wasn't ready for that. So I went the dog route. You went to the dog route? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:22 What does red listed mean for a shelter dog? Euthanasia listed. So that means that they'll say, this dog is red listed for 2 PM, and that means that they will be euthanized at 2 PM. Yeah, I don't follow those pages anymore. No? Oh. I try not to.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And what do you do, hustle down there? Yes. Or people are posting, they're pledging money, money that's never collected, because you can just comment on Instagram and say I pledge $50 and then someone's like great I grabbed the dog. Where's that $50 to help with the dog got it? To for medical bills and then you don't hear from how many dogs have you found homes for in your life? About a hundred and how many dogs have you fostered probably over a hundred? I think I stopped counting at like 40 because I was just like... You rename those foster dogs or no?
Starting point is 00:25:06 I'll name them. Sometimes I'll keep their shelter names. Sometimes they just have a kennel code name, like a number. It'll be like A103729. And when did you make the voyage out west? I came out west three years ago. What do your parents say when someone in Oklahoma ask what you're up to these days? That's a good one. My dad goes, my dad says, well Cassidy's our free spirit child. She's out in California living with the Manson crew. The shoe fits.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yep. And people don't train dogs in Oklahoma especially, so this career doesn't really exist there as much. So they don't really understand it or see it as a career. When did you start going to prisons? I started going two years ago. Explain to people what you do there. So the Positive Change Program is a program run by Marley's Mutts rescue in Tahachapi and they pair
Starting point is 00:26:07 dogs who would otherwise be euthanized with People living in prison and then the people the inmates train the dogs and then the dogs become adopted It sounds great now if you were to give me the choice death or prison. I'm not sure which one I would take I don't know either. Is it only male prisons? I've done a women's prison and right now I'm a part of two male prisons. You have to bring cats to the women's prisons?
Starting point is 00:26:38 No. Doesn't seem like that would be the right scenario. By the way, do you fuck with cats? I like cats. I don't know anything about training cats. People ask me that a lot. No idea. I like cats, though. I think more people should get cats. Why? Because I think more people want something
Starting point is 00:26:54 that can just cuddle them on their couch and then stay home all day while they leave. You get so much more freedom when you have a cat versus when you have a dog. Like, a dog has a lot of responsibility, and I just don't think a lot of people realize that. But it's true. My parents tried to lecture me on that,
Starting point is 00:27:08 and I was like, yeah, yeah, I know. We had dogs growing up, but I didn't realize how much my mom did for our dogs. Was your first experience with professional dog training in a prison? No. OK. Nope.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I had a couple of mentors that I worked under for a little bit. To be honest, I kind of started doing it. So, had I not left Minnesota, I arguably created the perfect business plan for myself, because I brought all of these rescue dogs to Minnesota, and now all those dogs need training. So, I kind of created a problem that I then became a trainer and could have had a solution for, but I left to come to California to learn more from other trainers. But I do still keep in touch with a lot of them and they'll call me with training questions.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So I kind of started doing it really just to keep these dogs out of my house and get them adopted and successfully. I was like, if you want to adopt this dog, this is the best way to transition them into your house. So I would help them with that. And then a lot of people told me, like kind of pushed me and encouraged me to start trying to do this professionally. And ultimately I wanted to do the Positive Change program. That was a huge, very early in my rescuing days when I was struggling with Lana biting other dogs. I found the Positive Change program on social media and then I found trainers through there and clicked on trainers they would share and I just kind of went down this journey of trying these
Starting point is 00:28:27 different methods and applying what worked and teaching it to other people. What do your services cost us? And you better, you should probably say a higher number than normal just in case. So I'm building, I'm getting my website launched right now, so I've just changed kind of what I'm offering. My services, my private lessons are $250 an hour for a private lesson. I offer daily training, which is four days a week. So I'll come to your house for an hour a day,
Starting point is 00:28:56 four days a week, and that is $600 a week. Now, do I have to be present for that? No, you do have to be present for one. So like every Friday, you have to be there. I gotta hang out with you for an hour every Friday. So that you can practice over the weekend because this is what's so hard is that I'm not like selling you this mug and charging you.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And then you're like, great, I love the mug. It really, it's kind of like, if you hired a personal trainer because you wanted to get fit, but then you didn't do any of the work, then you're not going to see the results you want. But then that reflects, for some reason, when it comes to dog training, people don't put that together necessarily.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And then that reflects on me being a shitty dog trainer because you didn't practice anything I taught you. I agree. I agree with what you're saying. Like, I look at all the things that I refuse to do It's always like You know mental health. I won't see anybody won't talk to anybody Train it won't do it. It's just so I just want to avoid those interactions yet anything else where it's something like I could I Could clean my deck I would refuse to that I would hire somebody for but I would know all the things that are important to make you a better person to make
Starting point is 00:30:08 people around you happier I'm like nope I couples there no a lot of people don't hire a dog trainer until their dog I didn't do anything training wise until Lana was attacking other dogs and then I was like oh if someone couldn't afford your services what advice would you give them for trying to train their own dog? There is so much free content out there. And it can be really confusing and overwhelming to people, because there's such differing philosophies when it comes to training. I would say just try it.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Try something. Stick with it for a little bit. If it doesn't work, try something else. Do reward-based systems work long-term? They can, kind of, but then at some point, like, you're not going to have a treat on you. So you have to figure something else out. Well, right, but rewards don't have to be a treat.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Rewards can be love and praise. Rewards can be affection. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. That's all I do. I always, I just reach in my pocket like I have a treat. So you trick your dog. Constantly.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Got it. I'm like, ah, you thought I had something. You don't. I don't like the way treats feel in my pocket. What about a fanny pack? I wear a fanny pack more for fashion, not for- Great, put some treats in there. I'm not putting treats in it. A fashionable fanny pack.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Oh, the treats smell. They do smell, they smell. Yeah, I'm told you, I mean it smells, I don't like it. Yeah, I've always smelled, I mean, it smells, I don't like it. Yeah. I'm not doing it. They always smell like dog and dog treats. My dad used to not let us have Doritos as a child. Cause they stung?
Starting point is 00:31:32 He said they, he always would say, they smell like a sweaty dog. Really? He would scream at us. Get those out of the house. We're not having Doritos. We want to have Doritos, isn't that weird? All the flavors?
Starting point is 00:31:45 No, just nachos. Just nachos. I don't think Cool Ranch smelled like a dog to him. I think that one has a stronger scent. It probably does. Maybe it was Cool Ranch too. I have no idea. That's so silly.
Starting point is 00:31:56 What about those bark collars? Do you like bark collars? I haven't used a bark collar personally. I'm not against them. I do use e-collars, electronic collars. I'll use very low levels We cranked ours up to max with my dog. He didn't care at all I'd bark right through it because you have to teach him what it means. It's just like Just like I think he was getting stronger
Starting point is 00:32:22 Like did you just buy one and put it on your dog and just see what happened? I don't know what was happening. All of a sudden he just started like, oh. Did you just buy one and put it on your dog and just see what happened? I don't know how I introduced it to him. But I just know that it was on like a nothing setting and we got no reaction. We just kept cranking it up. Yeah, that's one way to do it. It didn't work.
Starting point is 00:32:41 That's not the way people at home should do it. Then I bought this little frequency noise thing that when he barks, you're supposed to press it and it does a noise that they don't like. And then does it stop, did he stop? Well, here's my thing. Right around the time my other dog who has dementia, I was like, well, now she's getting a side effect
Starting point is 00:33:01 of your bad behavior. I can't do it. I couldn't in good faith do it when old crazy over here is like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, it's a little unfair. It's not fair, right? Yeah. I didn't have a solution to that problem.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Is your other dog still barking? Oh yeah, constantly. Again, I don't care. I was trying to make my partner less agitated. Yeah. That ship sailed. Do you ever do the whatchamacallit leashes I was trying to make my partner, you know, less agitated. Yeah. That ship sailed. Do you ever do the, whatchamacallit leashes? With the- Like the prongs?
Starting point is 00:33:30 The prongs? I don't use them. I don't use them either. I like E-collar over prong, personally. I have a wide band choke collar. Is that acceptable? I mean, anything's acceptable. You just have to teach the dog what it means.
Starting point is 00:33:43 My dog walks fine. Then great. Then that's not, yeah. He likes to lead and I kind of always pull him back. Should I do that or should I let him? Is it okay to let him lead? If you're not working through any behavior issues it just depends on what you want. Daxter typically walks in front of me but Lana stays by my side. I always like those cool dog owners that go leashless and the dog just stays right next
Starting point is 00:34:03 to them and they're not affected by anything. I know, I saw one down there. As soon as I see it though, I'm just like, whatever, you just have more time on your hands. I'm at home spending time with friends and family, jerk. Can you train any dog? Hypothetically, I'm still kind of early in my career, so I don't want to be naive and think,
Starting point is 00:34:21 I could train any dog, and then I get a dog, and I'm like, can yeah that okay. Well, I I've never had a trainer for any of my dogs I've had trainers come to my house and start but then 30 minutes in I'm just like when is this person leaving? Yeah, because they do too much for me Read the room. You know, here's, here's my thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I don't have dogs that are going to hurt me physically. Everything else. Oh, you mean, I just need to do, spend a lot of time repetition, do it every day. So I'm like, I don't, this is getting silly. I don't need this. I mean, growing up, we didn't have a trainer. Like we didn't, our dogs are perfect. I didn't know dogs needed training. Is that just an LA thing where these people are just lazy
Starting point is 00:35:06 and they want you to do the work for them? I think that's part of it, but I also think the expectations in modern society that we put on dogs in cities like LA, New York, just busier cities. So Lana used to be so reactive. Every time I stepped outside of the house, she'd be lunging if a leaf crinkled.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And if I lived in an apartment in LA, I have to get her out of the house three to four times a day to go potty. That's non-negotiable. So I can't have her acting like that. So I think it's more necessity, but also everybody wants a patio puppy, which is also fine.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I love taking my dogs to sit on patios, but. Is that a term that I should have known, patio puppy? No, I kind of just made it up. Okay. But that is like an expectation. We put a lot of expectations on our dogs in LA and busier cities. Everybody wants to be able to take their dog running off leash at the beach with other dogs and not have anything happen.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And I agree. I do think to me, dog training is a more spiritual experience? That's when I would be like, I'm out. And that's when you're like, I'm checking out. So how does, would your wife stick around? No. No. She doesn't like dogs.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Oh, then yeah, she definitely wouldn't. Yeah, so it's just about, like, I, but if your dog isn't endangering you, then I don't really care. Like, I'll meet you where you're at. What's the hardest breed to train? Huskies. Huskies? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Or German Shepherds. They're just really opposite. So German Shepherds are hard to train because they're so owner-oriented that they need constant information. And Huskies are the opposite, where they couldn't give two shits about you and just want to go be feral. Let's talk pit bull for a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Are you, you love them? I like pit bulls, yeah. Are you afraid of them? No. And these two are, I mean, he's kind of pit bull. She's a pit bull. See, I've, my brother always has pits, uh, rescue pits. I love them, but I'm always like,
Starting point is 00:37:04 you, I, don't get mad at me, uh, but I'm always like you I don't get mad at me because I'm not you know. Putting your face up to. I'll do that I'll even do that because I'm not worried about it but I understand there's like no a Havanese is not gonna kill someone. No. Under any circumstance no matter how poorly trained they are. Some dogs have consequences, other dogs don't. Yeah, exactly. Owning a pit bull is a way bigger responsibility, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I have a Bernadoodle. Oh, okay, yeah. One Bernadoodle. No, I like doodles. I don't, I think everybody thinks that they're getting one thing, and then I've definitely trained some pretty intense doodles,
Starting point is 00:37:44 but I think overall they have pretty intense doodles, but I think overall they have pretty good demeanors. I like them. I'm happy with mine. The things that people don't like about my dog, I actually like. Like when somebody new comes in the house, big bark. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I like it, oh my good. That's the thing, and that's what I tell a lot of clients is my dogs are far from this perfect standard of what a dog trainer's dog should be. If you come into my house my dogs would be rushing to the door jumping on you and barking because they're letting me know like someone's here they're going to quickly settle down and I can call them off and if I I know how to work through that behavior if I wanted to but I just don't really care to. What about those people that buy $80,000 German Shepherds
Starting point is 00:38:25 that only, like all the commit, nine, you have to scream at them. Like, um. They like basically take care of their children. Like bite work dogs. What is it? Like bite work dogs, or like sports dogs. Something.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah, I'm not too into the sports world. It's super opposite, not obvious. These are like security dogs on properties and stuff. Yeah, yeah, personal protection dogs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's a huge responsibility too. I think people just don't realize the responsibility that goes into that, and I know some people
Starting point is 00:38:55 who let their guard down and the dog went after a kid or something awful like that, and then it's just unfortunate for everyone involved. Yeah. Because the dog was arguably doing their job. Just give me that money. Yeah, I know. I'm just like there's, I could do so much for shelters with that money. Well see that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:39:13 I buy really expensive designer dogs. Then okay, the guilt from what I've done makes me cut checks to best friends. That's who I always work with. Good, it should. For decades, I'm just like, ugh, fine. Looking at your doodle and you're like, here's another check. Right, so I feel like it serves a purpose.
Starting point is 00:39:37 My dog creates guilt. Great. Also my allergies, and people always say, oh, you got a hyperallergenic dog, you have allergies. I can't put a new shirt on without sneezing for 45 minutes. You're still allergic to your doodle? No, not really. But like dogs, I can.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Oh, right, yeah. I can start feeling it. I used to be allergic to dogs. Yeah? Yeah, I agree with that. You got rid of it? Eventually. You like chihuahuas? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Do they outnumber pit bulls in the shelters? No, I don't think they outnumber them because people want small dogs, so they'll tolerate a poorly behaved chihuahua. And to be honest, I don't think everybody should go rescue the red listed pit bull. I think that there's a lot of really good, well demeanored pittities that are up for adoption,
Starting point is 00:40:27 that you can definitely go, just get to know the dog. Don't ever read the comments on any of my videos. I'm not going to. Because it's just people, just awful. I just can't handle it. They just try to find, oh, what? But they have nothing going on. German shepherds are not the hardest dog to train.
Starting point is 00:40:45 She's an idiot. Like, OK. This girl's never trained dogs in her life. Doesn't matter. Everybody on the show gets a gift. Your gift is not, it's just stuff from my house. Oh, great. That I don't want.
Starting point is 00:40:58 That's all I ever give away. OK, cool. But this. Oh, caution heavy. Yeah. This, a company sent me. Okay. It's a Thunder, Thunder, whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They do vests for dogs, but then they have all kinds of things. There's leashes, there's shirts. This one says my dog's name. Oh, Carl.0, that's cute. I'll keep that, thanks guys. But there's just a million things in here for dogs. But here's what-
Starting point is 00:41:27 Amazing, have you used this? For your dog? No. The anxiety vest? No, my dogs don't have anxiety. I mean, if she's barking all the time. Not all the time, just when my wife is nearby or menstruating, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Here, get this off my desk, please. Okay, it's heavy. I know. Be careful with it. Okay. You got it. You're strong. The dogs, there's probably treats in there that they can smell. Let me tell you why Thunder, is it, what is it called?
Starting point is 00:41:55 Thunder works. Let me tell you why Thunder. Thunder shirt. Yeah, the Thunder shirt. This is why they sent me this box. I was interviewing my father-in-law. And he says he's got bad posture. He's like, well, I wear a thunder shirt twice a week
Starting point is 00:42:10 to straighten my posture. It didn't mean an actual thunder shirt. He was just calling it that. I think the brand that he wears is Tommy Cooper, is the brand of posture shirt that he wears so he doesn't slunch like an old man. That would have been a better PR box. Well, anyway, Thunder Shirts, they thought it was nice
Starting point is 00:42:32 that we were talking about them, so they sent me a huge box. I'm like, well, I don't have this problem with my dog. What am I gonna do with all this product? They also donated some to a shelter. I believe they donated to Best Friends, an equal amount so that I didn't say anything bad about them. But now I figure I'll just pay it forward to give it to you. You give it to your clients. You do whatever you want with it
Starting point is 00:42:52 or you throw it away. That's up to you. I'll let you know. You let me. You sell it. That's fine. Anyway, I want to thank ThunderWorks for giving us that free stuff. But more importantly, Tommy Cooper, we need you to send us a bunch of posture shirts to my father-in-law. And he's probably a medium or a large, I don't know what, but just straighten that old man up because he is, oh, he's just bent over. Why should pet owners avoid dog parks? I don't have a problem with dog parks. I really don't. But I think the problem with dog parks is the dog owners that go avoid dog parks? I don't have a problem with dog parks. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:43:25 But I think the problem with dog parks is the dog owners that go to dog parks because they usually just go and they drop, they leave their dog there and then they go sit on the bench and then they're just scrolling on their phone the whole time and they have no idea what's going on. So even if I did that with Dexter, who loves other dogs, he would be running around humping other dogs.
Starting point is 00:43:42 His brain's not really working. So what I do with dogs is I want to get them thinking. I want to slow down their need to just go all the time and have zero impulse control and really slow them down and be a little bit more intentional with them. So that's my spiel on dog parks. I don't have an issue with them, like I said. I'll still take extra time. If you go a walk to a dog park Maybe that can be like and the dog park can be the reward Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:09 I think what happens is that you pull up to the dog park the dog screaming in the car you let them rush out the door They run into the dog park and then they have they they don't even know who you are when you're in there They're just in dog land. It's like I haven't been to LA dog park, so maybe it's different. You've never been to an LA dog park? No, I haven't. What? I feel like it's gotta be, well, I have Lana, so if I'm gonna go somewhere, I'm gonna take both of them. How often are you training people's dogs?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Too often. How often, how did Pete find you? He found me, I'm an independent contractor, I was an independent contractor through a dog training company. They finally got a dog. She's great. They take, him and his wife, 500 years to make any decision.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And now they have a- Well thought out. Whatever. These were impulsive. And he has the dumb hip sack of treats that's just so embarrassing, and then the 60 foot training leash that he walks around with. And I'm just like, what are you doing, man?
Starting point is 00:45:04 Let your dog run around. And then they're always, oh, well, we can't leave right now. Our dog's going to nap. I'm like, what? Open the door to your room and just leave. I actually talk about them with other clients because of how amazing they did with their dog when she was a puppy.
Starting point is 00:45:21 So I give great reviews to their parenting style. It just seems a bit much. Cassidy, thank you for being on the show. Good luck. Thank you. And I hope no more dogs in the world die under your watch. They probably will, unfortunately. Well, you're doing your part.
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Starting point is 00:48:43 All right, I want to thank Cassidy for helping out working with the, the pets of Tosh show. Carl, how are you doing buddy? Do you enjoy the Superbowl? I haven't watched yet. Uh, I recorded it and I'm going to save it and watch it during the Oscars. Well, my wife wants to watch the Oscars. I'm positive of that and then I can just go downstairs and watch the big game. Now did I place a ton of bets on the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:49:15 You better believe it, but I'm not checking my app, not checking the balance. Smart. Anyway, we got some plugs. ToshShowStore.com. Check out the Tosh show merch. Wear that merch to one of my shows. Get a free finger point. Yeah. We got Eddie's tour dates and, uh, my tour dates adding new shows, adding
Starting point is 00:49:37 second shows in New Brunswick, New Jersey and Minneapolis, St. Paul, Minnesota. And I'm excited about this. Heading out, heading out of the country, heading to Portugal, doing a show in Lisbon. Can you believe it? Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Why are we performing in Lisbon? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Maybe I wanna live there one day. You get a golden visa. You buy some real estate. You pretend that you're from a different country. It's what all the cool rich guys are doing. Comporta. They say that's like the Hamptons. I'm not a fan of the Hamptons.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Never have been. Huh, what do you think of that? When people are like, oh, we're going to the Hamptons, I'm like, great. They're like, are you gonna be there? I'm like, I'm never going there. Not my thing. I'll tell you where I love, Nantucket.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yep. Those are my people. I like people in Nantucket. Martha's Vineyard, nah. No thank you. I travel, I find places I like. Maine, good luck getting me out of there. I would live in Maine if it wasn't for my wife.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Gosh, she's such a downer. Anytime we're in someplace great, and I'm like, don't you think we could live here? And she's like, no. Like, why not? She's like, I don't know. Like, we're having the best time ever. The food's delicious.
Starting point is 00:50:57 People are wonderful. It's beautiful. She doesn't like cold though. That's what gets her. Like, we don't have to be here when it's cold. Right. Stay inside. It's not like you'd do anything anyway. Stay inside. All right well let's get to the free plug. We got any free plug music? You know we do. What kind of music are we listening to? Oh, that's more like just nature sounds, but I like it. I'm going to throw in one of Eddie's random eagle noises right there.
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Starting point is 00:52:25 and they basically, when they took, they removed the furniture, took the rug out, and then came back and put the furniture back and left. The rugs were great. But I'll be honest with you, the furniture was fucking nowhere near where it originally was, it basically just redecorated. So now, if I get the area rugs cleaned ever,
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