Tosh Show - My Dog's Surgeon
Episode Date: November 12, 2024Daniel chats with Adam, a practicing veterinarian for more than twenty years, about everything from operating on mice and big cats to expressing anal glands and why dog owners are easier to work with....See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dog or cat owners, who's worse to deal with?
Cat owners.
Is it by a mile?
A mile, like more than a mile.
Hey there! Who knows what time it is?
You know, we used to release these every week, 6 a.m. West Coast time sharp.
Now we're experimenting. Maybe we should release them later in the day
when traffic is a little more lively.
So I don't know what time it is,
but what I do know here at Toss Show, it's a special day.
Eddie, do you know what today is?
Not sure what today is.
It's our birthday!
What?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Happy birthday, Toss Show!
Yeah!
All right, happy birthday, everybody!
Toss Show is one year old.
Can you believe it?
I can't.
In one year, we have turned this little, tiny podcast into this.
Man, it was a, what a ride.
What a ride.
So we're one year old.
Sound the trumpets.
Oh my goodness.
No, I want our artificial ones.
I know it's, we're in birthday mode,
but I have something else. This is crazy. I
Was surfing the other day with Pierre, you know Pierre the guy that eats hot dogs and fucking random food
Anyway, my French buddy. We're surfing up up north a bit on the PCH and
My truck is just parked on the side of the road. We're going into the water and he goes, oh, hey, I need to lock this up.
And I'm like, yeah, you don't need to lock it up.
Nobody steals anything anymore.
It's 2024.
People stop stealing.
Just throw it in the back of the truck.
He goes, no.
So I go and unlock my truck for him
and he throws whatever he wanted not to get stolen.
Anyway, his story is stupid.
We come out of the water from surfing and my belt, my jeans and my used
boxer shorts were stolen from the back of my truck.
And this isn't like, this isn't a place where there's parking.
This is, there's no buildings around.
This is like the PCH, like where it's empty.
So, so somebody came by, went in the back of my truck, took my jeans, belt, and
underwear, left my cashmere sweater, left my shoes, uh, left his clothes.
All of his clothes were in there.
Didn't touch them, but just some unhoused man got a pair of rag and bone jeans,
Ted Baker belt, James Purse boxers.
I mean, all in all, I guarantee that's over a thousand bucks.
Jerk.
Pretty good haul.
Hell of a haul.
Anyway, happy birthday!
Happy birthday to you.
Let me get you some boxers.
Holy cow.
I can't believe we've done this for one year.
What's been your favorite episode, Eddie?
I like The Astronaut, Steve Swanson.
The Astronaut.
That was a good one.
That guy gave me a little pee bag from space.
Yeah.
From the Apollo mission.
I still have that.
I use it every day.
Who's your favorite guest?
My favorite guest?
Yeah.
Ah!
Whatever one's not viewed the most.
That was my favorite.
Come on, guys.
Watch that one.
I like all of them.
They're like children to me.
You know, except for the one that was my child.
That one's actually my kid.
It's been a good year and I was happy to do the show.
We are, this is our last episode.
No, I'm kidding.
We'll probably do the show for another 20 years.
You think we'll be here for another 20?
Oh, absolutely.
Eddie, if you're, if you're here, I'm here.
Let me ask you this.
What's that?
What have you learned by doing this show?
You've never really hosted a show. You're just interviewing people constantly. What have you learned?
I learned that when you're interviewing somebody you gotta stay awake.
Okay, if you nod off during an interview that lets them know that you're not very interested in what they have to say.
It's a good sign. So the whole time
I'm just when they're talking,
I'm just like, don't fall asleep.
By the way, this birthday, you know,
I know we didn't get any cake or anything,
but we did get some hardware.
You see this?
YouTube sent us this.
I don't know what it is.
It's an award for passing 100,000 subscribers 11 months ago.
Well, I don't want this.
I don't like awards.
So I will give this award says presented to Tosh show.
I'll give that to whoever makes the most comments on this video and not
just you know they have to be funny comments but not just one. I want like a
hundred and fifty thousand. I want a hundred and fifty thousand. Wow. Just the most
comments that are enjoyable for me to read. I don't know what I'm asking
for exactly. We'll figure it out.
Eddie.
Yep.
Eddie, do you remember our first guest?
I do.
It was Finky, a gay doctor.
Now a year later, this show has evolved.
Today's guest is a gay doctor.
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My guest today is a goddamn hero. He is a gay man who has saved countless pussies and bitches.
His patients have names like Cinnamon, Stardust, and Bigsby,
and they usually come to him when their owners
have allowed them to limp around for a couple weeks
in hopes it would magically go away.
Please welcome veterinarian Dr. Adam.
Hello.
How are you?
I'm great, how are you?
I'm doing really good, thank you.
Good.
First of all, thank you for being here.
Do you believe in ghosts?
Yes.
Absolutely.
What do you mean absolutely?
I believe in ghosts.
What about pet ghosts?
Of course.
So everything has a spirit?
Everything has a spirit
if the spirit has a reason to stay around.
Oh, so there's conditions.
Sure.
If you don't have unfinished business,
then you're just gone?
Yeah, you go off, do whatever else you do.
But if you have unfinished business
or there's another lesson to learn, you stay around.
Until you learn it?
Sure.
Horseshit.
I gotta learn stuff after I die?
There's no chance I die
and I've finished everything that I needed to do.
That's why you get more chances.
That's really convenient.
Yeah. You were born and raised in LA, Brentwood specifically. and I finished everything that I needed to do. That's why you get more chances. Well, that's really convenient.
Yeah.
You were born and raised in LA, Brentwood specifically.
Give our audience a better understanding of geography.
How close was your childhood home to O.J. Simpson?
So I went to school at Brentwood High.
I was actually raised in Cheviot Hills,
but the school was about a mile and a half
from O.J.'s house.
Do you remember that night as a kid?
I wasn't a kid.
I was...
You're in the 90s, but you were 20?
I was home from college.
Okay.
So I was home.
I was actually eating at the Islands that used to be on Pico and Veteran.
What kind of burger you go with?
Big Wave with cheese, no question.
Okay.
And we were watching the low speed car race on the television, so they all had TVs.
So I remember that day very well.
You still like a burger?
I do. Actually, we just took my mom to islands for her birthday
as like a nostalgic celebration,
because she used to take us and I got the same thing.
That's very sweet.
Have you always loved animals?
Yes.
How many pets did you have growing up?
The first pet was a goldfish, but then a bird.
And then we got a dog when I was nine maybe.
What kind of bird did you have?
Little cockatiel.
I'm not a bird fan.
I love them in the wild.
Yeah, I'm not really a bird fan either.
The birds we deal with as veterinarians are sick and mean.
Not really a bird fan.
I wanted a pelican for a long time,
but PETA told me, they said, knock it off Daniel. Pelican would be rough. Oh, but it's really a rough animal. I wanted a pelican for a long time, but PETA told me, they said, knock it off Daniel,
you can't have it.
Pelican would be rough.
Oh, but it's such a neat animal.
You know, I just like that they hang out on piers,
talk to old fishermen all day long,
then they fly, they swim.
So you want like a wild pelican friend.
Yes.
Not a pelican in the house.
I basically want a childhood story.
Okay, I like that.
Come to life.
Yes.
When did you come out?
When I was 18.
Christmas break, freshman year of college.
How did your parents handle it?
Great.
Did they know?
My mom knew.
Did she really or did she just say she?
Because moms always say, I knew.
And it's like, you didn't fucking know shit, lady.
Two of her very close friends were a gay couple.
And she had mentioned to them that she thought I was gay.
And that year, I was gay.
And that year, I think, we had had Thanksgiving
and they came to Thanksgiving dinner
and they didn't confirm or deny to her.
So she assumed since they didn't say anything,
they didn't want to tell her.
So she-
Did they know?
Yeah.
Did you let them know?
No.
Yeah, I'm telling you, they have special powers to know.
They do.
No, I had a best friend come out when he was 37 to me.
I was like, knowing my whole life,
I just had buried it, buried it.
And I was so mad at myself.
I'm like, how in the world do you pull this off?
You went to school at Stanford. Again, Stanford.
We've had five people now on this show
that went to Stanford.
It's basically an intellectual podcast
that dabbles in comedy.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Pete's wife does a bit, always makes me laugh.
Wherever I say college, I go, hey, sing their fight song.
And then she just starts singing it, and it makes me laugh.
And she doesn't know anything about sports,
because let's see if she'll do it on the fly.
Let's see if I can get Sam to do this.
Hello.
Hey, sing the Stanford fight song.
Go Stanford, yes, win the game.
Go Stanford, it's gonna be a great day.
That's nice.
All right, I'll talk to you.
Yeah.
All right, I got the fight song. You actually know the fight song? Ah, let's hear. All right. I told you yeah All right, I got I got the fight song you actually know the fights are let's hear the real one
It's a um all right now, baby. It's that song that they just stole a song totally
Can't do that for your fight song a lot of my viewers think I'm out of touch talk about being on the polo team at Stanford
It sounds it sounds a lot more glorious than it was.
So elitist.
Yeah.
So I grew up riding horses.
And then I wanted to ride some horses at Stanford.
Went out to meet the equestrian team people and they felt very elitist to me.
So I didn't really mesh with them.
I was playing volleyball with, like, pick-up volleyball at night,
and my buddy said, oh, you should come out for the polo team.
I was like, ah, sure.
So I went out and it was all very chill, relaxed people.
We had tons of horses, 18 or 20 horses to kind of be in charge of.
It's not of our city sport.
So it was not as glorious and elitist as you think,
but we did get to play polo and rub elbows with some pretty fancy people
Didn't you start by specializing on horses? Yeah, I
Entered vet school thinking I wanted to be an equine veterinary a horse vet
But then you realize horse people are awful and horses are boring. I don't want to say horse people are awful. Okay
some horse people can be difficult to work with and horses can kill you pretty quick if they want.
And there's a lot of on-call in the middle of the night,
often in mud, and it's not always
a very glorious profession.
And I realized quickly that I would rather work indoors
on dogs and cats and make enough money
to own a horse if I wanted one.
Do you own a horse?
Not anymore.
Do you force people to call you doctor?
I introduce myself as doctor to clients.
If I am not treating your pet, please don't call me doctor.
Okay.
Because my name is Adam.
Eddie back there on his Sky Miles card,
just put doctor in front of him.
And so whenever his flight's about,
they always write Dr. Gosling, and he just thinks he's cool as shit for that. And so whenever his flight's about, they always are like Dr. Gosling,
and he just thinks he's cool as shit for that.
And I'm like, that is hor-
Anyway, it's a stolen valor is my issue with it.
That's fine.
How come vets hire such alt kids to work in their practice?
I think alt kids migrate toward vet med.
The amount of piercings I see.
Piercings, tattoos, queer identity.
They're just good.
It's great.
Mm-hmm.
I always felt like, I was like, oh, this is the hotbed.
How many dogs do you think you've saved?
That's a great question.
That without you doing what you did.
Would have died, not just been sore?
That's probably a better question.
Okay, so maybe half, 5,000?
Oh, jeez. Your specialty is, what is it?
Surgery.
But which surgery?
So I'll do all surgeries.
What was your big one?
TPLO. Yeah, it fixes the equivalent of the ACL in people to CCL in dogs, but same structure.
Most common injury in dogs, in dog knees, so very common surgery.
And they limp. No one likes to see their dog limping,
and the surgery does a great job of making them not limp.
Gone to your head.
Yeah.
We take you right now, we put you on an NBA team
as the doctor.
Yeah.
Could you repair some ACLs?
The way people are done, no.
You couldn't do it?
Couldn't, it would be messy.
So in dogs, we don't replace the ACL, in people that's the main the mainstay.
So I don't do ACL replacement. It's a completely different surgery changing the biomechanics.
But gun to my head broken leg, no problem.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we can use you.
Yeah, I'd be great in a zombie apocalypse.
Exactly. Are you scared of any animals?
Yeah, I mean bears.
You ever worked on a bear?
Yes, but it was asleep.
Uh huh.
By the time I met it. You know, but in the wild I've got a place in Mammoth, so I'm up there a lot skiing and stuff.
And so, you know, you don't want to run into a bear.
I had a bear come into my garage almost this summer.
Really?
In Tahoe. I couldn't have been less worried about him. I was just like, okay.
First of all, his ear was tagged.
I'm like, the city knows what this bear does.
I'm not scared of bears in general.
I'm scared of running into a bear unexpectedly.
Mm-hmm.
And then bats for some reason.
I don't like a bat.
Yeah.
I don't trust their navigation system.
They're unpredictable.
Too much erratic darting around.
Agreed.
I had a bat living in my umbrella recently at my house.
Oh, a table umbrella?
It was like by a pool, you know, next to a few chairs.
But every time I pulled it up, he'd fly out.
And I'm like, oh no, I have to get rid of this.
Yeah.
And I did.
Good.
I didn't, I'm not proud of what I did.
Oh, you didn't just relocate him?
I felt like he kept coming back.
Yeah.
I didn't give it a shot.
OK.
I got rid of him.
Fair.
I understand.
It's not my, I'm not my proudest moment. Okay, they are they are one of the animals that can
Be a source of rabies in California. So it's better to get I think he had rabies for sure
You ever performed surgery on big cats? Yes is a lion the same as a house cat internal. Yes
So they're just the stuff is just bigger. Uh-huh
One of the hospitals I worked at and we worked with Big Cat Rescue out in Santa Clarita
or wherever it is.
And so anytime they have issues with their animals,
they bring them to us.
They're great, they're huge.
Their paws are like this big.
I'm still allergic to big cats.
I think that's funny.
It's the same as a house cat.
I sneeze just as much.
Yeah, but yes, I have plenty of surgeries on big cats.
Do you ever do any funny photos with them while they're under?
Oh, yeah.
Everyone's got photos with them.
It's so crazy how big they are.
I neutered a lion once.
The balls were huge?
Yeah.
Did you at any point say, who's the king of the jungle now?
I did not.
Did you like the movie Ace Ventura when it came out?
Yeah, I'm a Jim Carrey fan.
He was an animal doctor, right?
Yeah.
But the most transphobic movie in the history of movies.
Yeah, it doesn't hold up.
Oh my goodness.
A lot of those don't hold up.
No, but that one is like off the charts.
Imagine that being pitched in a room today.
And that's why I always laugh when people are like,
oh, things used to be so much better.
I'm like, for who, you monster?
That's correct.
In your opinion as a gay man,
is that community more or less likely to be faithful?
You mean in a relationship? Monogamous.
So monogamous and faithful, I think, are different.
Yes, they are.
Let's go with monogamous.
Less likely.
You believe that.
I do.
How about the vet community?
Is it Grey's Anatomy in the animal hospital where everybody's banging each other?
Yes. There's no question.
The TV shows about vet hospitals would be way better.
Okay, this is a serious question. Yeah. Should we circumcise our dogs? No, they don't have foreskin.
They don't? No. I don't think I knew that they didn't have foreskin. Did you guys know that?
No. You didn't know that, right? No. I don't think I knew that they didn't have foreskin. Did you guys know that? No. You didn't know that right? No.
It would be funny in theory to be like no I wanted my dog's penis to look like my penis.
The real question is this, neuter. Yes. Six months or one year? Yeah, that's a huge topic of debate.
The research coming out especially in bigger dogs is let them grow a little bit longer for bone health.
I waited a year and a half. Nah, I waited a year and two months.
I mean, if you're a responsible dog owner and not letting them get out and impregnate dogs inappropriately,
and they are not developing behaviors that you don't like...
Yeah, he wasn't jizzing all over the house.
Right, then it's fine. It don't like. Yeah, he wasn't jizzing all over the house. Right, then it's fine. Then it doesn't matter. Now, what about Spain, a dog, do you recommend before or after the first period?
So when I went to vet school, it was always recommended before the first heat to decrease
the chance of mammary cancer later.
That may or may not be getting disproven, but I still recommend before the first heat.
So that's around six months?
Six months, yeah.
How long is that heat?
Isn't it like a month long?
No, five to seven days usually.
Oh, I feel like I've seen a diaper on a dog
way longer than that.
Eh, maybe she just had a heavy flow.
Your favorite surgery to perform as a vet
is a vulvopllasty in female dogs.
Now, do you think you've earned these bitches trust more
because you're a gay man?
And can you explain vulvoplasty procedure
since I still have no idea how women work?
Right, so we call it an apesioplasty,
same prefix like apeseotomy.
Some female dogs have extra tissue that sort of covers their vulva opening and so they
can get retention of urine and moisture and bacteria and so they get recurrent urinary
tract infections which can be very uncomfortable and lots of return trips to the vet.
Can turn into a kidney infection at some point?
It can if it's left untreated. So the surgery is to remove that extra flap and sort of expose
the vulva better, more naturally. And the reason I like the surgery is it's pretty easy to do
and it really changes the dog's life. They are not painful anymore,
they're not going to the vet all the time,
they're not having these UTIs
and having to urinate all the time.
And you do the surgery and after the two week recheck,
the owner says, my dog is so much happier.
And that's what makes me feel so good about it
is it really changes the quality of life for the dog.
You can diagnose this pretty quickly?
I can just look and see.
What do I got to look for?
Just looks like there's extra tissue over the back.
I don't know.
If Carl was a girl, we could show you, but he's not.
Well.
But if you want to look for his foreskin, we can.
Can the owners keep the testicles?
No.
Okay.
But a lot of our employees sometimes
want to keep the testicles.
Why do they want to?
I have no idea.
Oh man.
See, that's the problem.
The alt kids hang out with the witch kids.
The witch kids need balls for their brew.
Yeah.
That's true.
Sometimes they say they're going to dry them
and make earrings out of them.
Oh Jesus.
Do you ever do that cosmetic surgery where you put fake testicles in?
I've never put them in.
They're called nudicles.
Some people like the look of balls.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know why.
Some people love balls.
I like those guys that have those truck nuts on the back of their...
That's always nice.
Right.
Is it possible to switch, to get your testicle to jump to the other sack?
Like the other side?
Yeah.
No, they're divided.
And because as a child, I used to just spend so much time.
Trying to get it over there?
Sure, why not?
See if you could swap them.
Just twist the whole thing around.
Well, yeah, you can do that.
Right.
And then everybody always had,
did you guys have a friend in high school or college
that you always like,
you heard that he only had one testicle?
Yeah, no, I lived next to someone who had one testicle.
You lived next to him. Yeah. And I lived next to someone who had one testicle. You lived next to someone who had three balls.
You lived next to someone who had three testicles, John.
Yeah, we called him TriPod.
You called him TriPod?
Yeah.
Wow.
That seems weird.
Yeah, it was weird.
You don't sit on your balls.
I mean, you try not to.
All right, this has gone off the rails.
People that own lizards or snakes or mice, are they wasting the clinic's time?
No, not at all.
Small pets, hamsters, gerbils, reptiles,
that's what we call exotics,
and they usually go to vets who focus on exotics.
By the time those things are sick,
they're almost always gonna die.
Traditionally, do vets get paid well?
General practitioners don't get paid
as well as the public thinks.
They are probably coming out of school making $75,000 to $80,000 a year, which in Los Angeles
to own a house is pretty tough.
Specialists are doing better.
We do a lot more schooling and a lot more training and have specialized equipment and
skills.
So I would say most specialists
make a pretty decent living.
And then the number one complaint, I'm just guessing here,
the number one complaint from your customers is,
it's, this guy's too expensive.
Yep, 100%.
And then the real thing is that the same stuff
that you use or equipment is the same stuff
that hospitals pay for humans, so it cost a fortune. Yeah, so we or equipment is the same stuff that hospitals pay for humans.
So it costs a fortune.
So we're using all the same equipment, same drugs, same supplies, same facilities.
We obviously don't have health insurance in the same way.
Pet insurance is almost all reimbursement insurance.
But the big insurance companies negotiate with hospitals.
We'll pay 18% or whatever.
So the prices are increased dramatically
so that the doctors and hospitals still make money
from the insurance companies, whereas we just kind of pay
charge for our costs are.
So an MRI, for example, will be around 2000 or $2200 for us.
Human MRI, 12,000, 15,000.
But you don't see any of that because insurance pays for it
Should people get pet insurance? Yes, they should I do I used to never say yes
And now you say definitive yes six years ago if you could put aside
3,500 to five thousand dollars you could cover an emergency now
It's probably ten to $15,000,
and that's a lot for most people.
And so pet insurance takes that pressure off.
And there are some pet insurances
that are very good and will pay.
Now in 2017, you and three other friends
Open to Practice focused on 10 different specialties.
By 2020, it was doing around 30 million a year.
You sold it in 2020.
And I don't want to get into specifics, but answer this.
Do you ever have to work another day in your life?
Do I have to?
Yes.
Probably not.
Oh, boy.
I would have to change my lifestyle.
Do you read the reviews when people go on?
I've never read reviews.
OK.
I don't like Yelp.
I think it's a small business killer. I think it's terrible service. OK. Fuck don't like Yelp. I think it's a small business
killer. I think it's terrible service. Okay. Fuck Yelp. Yelp, are you a sponsor of this
show? Because I will flip on him in a second. Here's a problem I see with your world. Okay.
As a vet. You have to be a version of on. And it gets grueling. And I just feel bad.
I don't tell people I'm a vet. I've met many veterinarians who say they do other jobs until you know them.
One woman I met said she sold insurance.
And then 15 minutes into our conversation when she found out I was a vet, she said,
Oh, I'm actually a vet too, but I don't ever tell people because I don't want to hear the questions.
But when friends know that you're a vet, that's when I think it's a lot.
Yeah. So my friends know they can ask me
whatever they want.
And I get family from coming out of the woodwork
that's question that question.
Those are the people that you can't,
But as a surgeon sometimes it's very easy
because I can say, I don't know that.
I'm lying, but I can say that.
The other day, my wife leaves this farm,
the farmer's market, when you go to the farmer's market, you're supposed to come home with flowers, vegetables,
and maybe some bread. That would be nice.
Sure, yeah. Fresh baked bread.
Okay. Here's what my wife comes home with from the farmer's market.
Here, let me...
Okay. Awww.
My wife...
It's amazing. Comes home with right back. Okay. Aww. My wife... It's amazing.
...comes home with a pig.
That's great.
And she's like, huh?
Her and her cousin, they're like, we're gonna co-own the pig.
She lives right around the corner.
I'm like, I know what this means.
This means that now I own a pig for 15 years-ish.
Right.
That I've got to build on my property.
A pig place.
A pen, everything.
And I'm just like, what?
There's so much smaller.
And we're not one of these people.
My wife's not an idiot, although she behaves like one.
You know, I know it's seven and a half pounds now.
She said that most likely it'll be under 50.
Both of the parents are like 40, 45.
And I go, did she?
The person that was trying to get rid of the pig?
Right.
It might be bigger, but it's really cute right now.
And I'm OK if it gets to be 200 pounds.
But if it does, I'm forcing her to sleep with it.
OK.
Hey, baby.
What do I need to know? First of all, so okay.
So now I have a pig for the rest of my life.
Right. You read up on pigs. I don't know anything about pigs.
You don't know anything about pigs?
No, I'm a dog and cat vet.
Do you want to know what his name is?
What is his name?
Potato.
That's a great name. It's better than bacon.
It looks like he has underwear on.
Oh, he's got little pants.
Hi, buddy.
It's okay. He's a little skittish Oh, he's got little pants. Hi buddy. It's okay.
He's a little skittish and I don't wanna,
I don't wanna make him scared
and then people yell at me for like,
what are you, your toy.
His tail doesn't curl.
You wanna snort for him?
He's cute.
Carl, come here Carl.
He's very cute.
Can you as a vet prove to my listeners
that Carl is not a person in a dog suit.
Because everyone thinks that he's like just not a real dog.
No, he's definitely a dog. Professional opinion.
Carl's a dog.
Thank you.
Wait.
I like to always have my dogs lean.
I'm feeling it right now.
He feels great.
Right.
I don't have big dogs.
No.
You can feel his ribs easily, but there's some fat right over him.
He'll live longer if he stays lean.
You want the dogs to be lean.
Yep.
I mean, he looks big because he's got hair.
He's just furry.
He feels great.
If you had to guess how many animals have you put down in your career?
Oh, I don't want to guess that.
300.
You remember Randall?
Of course. How could I remember Randall? Of course.
How could I forget Randall?
RIP, buddy.
Dylan's dog.
I did surgery on Randall.
And then you put him down the next day?
No.
By the way, I don't know.
It's a weird thing for a vet to see you at such a vulnerable
spot.
And it's like, they're just like, hey, buddy,
I just got to do my gig here.
It's just, I feel so bad.
And then they bring somebody with them too.
By the way, he took a towel with me,
never gave it back, and it was a good towel.
I mean, I felt like an asshole to be like,
can I keep the towel?
But he was like, oh, my boy is gone,
and I'm just sobbing like a crazy person.
It's just rough.
It is the worst day. It's the worst day by a mile. Here's, this is the and I'm just sobbing like a crazy person. It's just rough. It is the worst day.
It's the worst day by a mile.
Here's, this is the rule I go by,
I always have pets and dogs.
If they're not going to the bathroom on their own,
outside anymore and stop eating and drinking,
I'll give you one to two days before you snap out of that.
Yeah, I mean. Before we have to have the talk.
Yeah, it really depends on is there an acute disease that you can fix?
Or is this just, I'm old and this is what my life is now?
I usually tell people when they're thinking about it,
pick the 10 things your pet loves the most.
And when they stop doing five of them, start thinking about it.
Because you don't want to wait until the worst day.
You don't want to make it to the point where,
oh, I should have done this a week ago.
And that's what you need.
You need a vet that will just say,
because these in LA, you've got people that will do
everything to preserve life.
You have no idea.
Right.
I don't, but I can wrap my head around it.
Right.
And I've always had, you know, my bad,
like get a second opinion, but don't do anything.
You know, it's kind of,
that's it's almost what you need to hear.
Like it's, it's the kids riddled in cancer.
Like just knock it off.
Yeah. I have, I mean,
this is a talk that you learn to have as a veterinarian.
There's a lot of things to look at.
You can give people the option of this is what we can do.
This is how much longer it may buy you
and how much it will cost,
and you can guide people appropriately.
I've had people who will mortgage their house
for the hopes of one more week with their dog,
and I tell them this is a terrible idea,
and it's time to let your dog go,
and I've had people who have infinite money,
which you get a lot around LA,
who's like, yeah, nah, he's had a good life.
It's fine.
And I'm like, all right, I might've gone a little further,
but I never questioned people
once they've made the decision.
I feel like it's a very personal decision
and I don't wanna interfere with it.
Okay, but to get extremely heavy,
are we on the same page with Right to Die for Humans?
Absolutely.
That like, what are we doing in this country?
I have no idea.
Knock it off.
Right.
I mean, I see it routinely in my job and it's such a selfless gift and blessing and such
a way to go respectfully.
And when you see what these people are doing now, like when they like travel to Oregon
or Maine or any of these states that allow it, I don't know if Maine's one of them,
don't hold me on that.
You have to like live there for 60 days before,
it's like just let people go.
Yeah, I mean if you have a disease
that is gonna make you just get worse from where you are
and you still have the wherewithal to say,
I don't want to, I can't see anything wrong with that.
But I also don't understand why they don't just like,
you know what, live in a place where, if they don't have the means and they, I feel like I could cook up anything wrong with that. But I also don't understand why they don't just like, you know what, live in a place where,
if they don't have the means and they,
I feel like I could cook up a concoction pretty easily.
You don't even have to cook it up, that stuff exists.
Well no, I, I.
It's great stuff.
All right, let's put the recipe up
on the bottom of the screen right now.
By the way, you can give Benadryl to a dog.
Is there animal medicine that we can take?
Tons.
Okay.
Most of those safety studies are done on dogs, so we know what's going to work for dogs.
But they take a lot of the same medications we do.
Obviously there's the abuse concern ones.
They take Xanax, they take Prozac, they take painkillers, you know.
Do you ever worry about some of those alt kids dipping into your stash?
Everything's locked up and
Computer controlled but there are some owners who ask for refills more often than we think is necessary
That's interesting. Yeah, what the fuck does flea medicine and heartworm and tick medicine only work for one month?
The the way many
flea and tick medications work
without hurting the animal inhibit certain functions that insects have that dogs don't.
So it only lasts a certain amount of time.
Some now last six months.
There's some heartworm that are six months,
some flea and tick that are three months.
They're trying to make it easier
for the owners to administer for compliance,
but they don't last forever.
Okay, I do Trifexes.
Now, tell me, I already know that you probably have to
answer it the right way, but.
Okay.
You used to be surprised,
because I don't know a lot about this.
Well, you get it for a weight range.
And let's just say that the weight range that my dog falls
in is in the 40 to 60 pound range.
Okay, but I also have a 10 pound dog at home.
So am I gonna buy two different ones?
No, I never have.
I just buy the 40, 60, I shave off a little for her
and just give her that part.
Because he's only 40 pounds, he's at the bottom end,
and I figure I'll just give you a 10th of that tablet
and call it a day.
Yeah, I mean, I think that will work perfectly.
I'm saving tons of money. 100%. I mean, I think that would work perfectly.
I'm saving tons of money.
100%.
I can't.
It's the same price no matter what weight you get.
Yes.
What's the easiest dog to work on?
Pit bull, I think.
Yeah?
Yeah.
They're pretty tolerant and usually very nice.
I mean, until they're not, which is always the scary part,
my brother only has pit bulls.
I only have pit bulls.
Yeah. Yeah.
He thinks he's better than me because he rescues a pit bull,
but I think I'm better than him because I donate way more
to different shelters and things like that.
You're both great.
I mean, yeah, but I think if you were to size it up,
who's gonna get into heaven?
I'm gonna go with you.
Thank you? Yeah.
What, he's saving one dog?
I'm saving thousands.
That's right.
What do you think of zoos?
I don't bring my children to zoos because I've had this hard line on zoos for so long.
Yep.
Tell me I'm wrong and I can be a good dad.
I think zoos serve a very important purpose.
Introducing kids to animals, letting them see them so that they can be advocates for them.
And they're not just these imaginary things that they've talked about but never seen.
But good zoos, right? So you want zoos that don't cater to the public, that they cater to the animal.
Santa Barbara Zoo.
I've never been to Santa Barbara Zoo.
LA Zoo? Doing great. They changed a lot. They've made their enclosures much larger.
They have the animals on rotation so they don't have to be out all the time.
Where is the LA Zoo located?
Right near Griffith Park.
I'm not going.
Santa Barbara Zoo might be great.
Might be, but I'm not going until I get your okay.
All right, I'll look into it.
Thank you.
Yep.
Where are you at on mini cows?
Anytime you breed for certain characteristics, you sacrifice natural characteristics.
They're probably sweet.
Cows are not intelligent animals.
Is that why they spell things wrong
on those Chick-fil-A commercials?
Exactly, you'd think they'd learn by now.
I mean, they've had so many years of practice.
Where are you at on Chick-fil-A?
You boycott it?
100%.
For life?
For life.
Such a good chicken sandwich is the problem.
Listen, listen, the thing is-
I wanna be with you, I wanna be with you,
I'm there with you in spirit.
I will not order it, I will not go there and buy it,
but someone brought over the Chick-fil-A sauce
to my house once, the creamy one, it's delicious.
But I won't buy it.
Fair enough.
How gross is expressing anal glands?
Because it honestly sounds like the worst thing ever.
It's exceptionally disgusting.
What do you actually do?
You stick your finger in the butt.
And then use your thumb to squeeze the gland between your finger and your thumb.
They live sort of in the muscles of the anus.
And squeeze gently so that the material inside, again, gets squished out.
Ideally into a paper towel or tissue with a glove on.
The problem is sometimes it squirts
Aggressively and can get places that you don't want it and smells terrible
And if it is just gets on you the smells there for the day you can't wash her
How often do you need to do this I never do this how often does a dog need to have it?
That's a great question most dogs as they poop it
Expresses the end anal glands normally.
So they shouldn't have stuff in there all the time.
Some people have it done once a week for their dogs.
Once a week?
Yeah, but if it happens at my hospital,
I ask my technicians to do that.
That is not something I do.
Can I do it at home?
Can I learn how to do it?
I know a lot of people who do it at home.
Oh my goodness.
Carl, got a new game!
If he doesn't need it, it's probably not necessary to put my fingers in his butt.
No, that's correct.
But legally I'm allowed to.
You can do whatever you want to your own dog, I think, as long as you're not doing harm.
You can't do activity as a veterinarian, so you can't sell yourself as a veterinarian if you are not a veterinarian.
You probably can't do surgery on your own dog because that's doing harm and you can't do it safely.
But you can groom your own dog. You don't have to be groomer.
You can express anal glands, brush teeth.
I don't even do the teeth. I just pay the money.
I've never brushed my dog's teeth.
I have them professionally brushed once every, I don't know, three months.
My old dog just has one tooth left.
We left one tooth in so that her tongue doesn't fall out. I think it's kind of cute when their tongue falls out.
There's nothing cute about her at this age. They keep telling me that she's
gonna keep living and I'm like... What kind of dog is she? She's a Havanese. She's 14.
I would say the past two years full dementia. I love Havanese. I do too.
They were one of the breeds I used to recommend people get. My favorite
Havanese that I ever had
I used to do a show and he was on there all the time
And when he died, where are you at on people cloning their dogs? I think it's weird. Okay, sure, but aside from that
I think it's bad. You think it's bad? Yeah, I mean you can't create the same dog, right?
It has to have the exact same experiences, But if it did have the exact same experiences,
would it be the same dog?
I don't know.
The issue that I usually have is we see people who are
in some sort of trauma state, their dog is dying of something terrible,
and then they want to clone it.
I'm like, your dog has cancer.
You want to make a new dog that has the same genetics?
So you're going to create cancer again.
Like, this is not a smart idea. Who did it?
Who's the famous woman who did it a bunch of times?
Barbara Streisand.
Barbara Streisand, did it a bunch.
I'm not gonna say anything bad about Barbara Streisand.
You can't say anything bad about Barbara Streisand.
You get kicked out of the community.
Okay, so here's the thing.
I didn't have my dog cloned.
But I worked on a TV show where he was always on camera.
And so occasionally I would have to have a stand in
for him when he wasn't
around. So I had this company in China make me like fake versions of my old dog. Now the
problem is I still have them and I refuse to get rid of them. Okay. But it literally
is. Oh. People that see this like, Oh my goodness, that's, that's your old Castro. It's just,
and if it's in my house like I'll just
Double-take yeah, that's actually really good. I can't get rid of it yet. I wouldn't I'm not getting rid of it yet But I keep it in a box under my table. Okay. I always give people that are my show gifts
But but it's just stuff that I don't want in my house. Okay, great
So it's now it's gonna be stuff. I don't want in my house, correct great, but it'll have emotional value for me this
I'm pretty sure I was supposed to return.
I never did.
Yeah, that.
Great.
You give that to your next customer for free instead of gouging them 80 bucks.
By the way, the soft one is so much nicer, the Velcro, than the hard plastic one that
jabs them so hard into the neck.
Yeah, I mean, a soft one like this that won't bend is fine.
The problem is when people get the soft ones that bend,
then the dog can chew at the incision
that I just spent so much time making pretty
and tear it apart.
But if your dog doesn't lick the incision at all,
you don't need it at all, correct?
Wow, that is not a question to ask a surgeon.
I mean, because I've had a dog that wasn't going to lick it.
I'm like, well, why am I putting this on you?
You're not going for it at all.
That's great.
No, OK.
I hear what you're doing.
Get that off my desk please.
Okay.
Do you play games at your cabin?
Yeah.
Do you play Monopoly Deal?
Uh yeah.
Do you know the game Monopoly Deal?
Yeah.
It's different than the Monopoly other card game?
It's not the board game.
No no but it's the same card yeah.
You have it?
I don't have it.
Friends always bring it.
Okay this is my old deck I have a new deck at my house.
Thank you so much.
It's the best game ever.
Put this in your cabin.
Okay. I also got you a cabin book. This is a old deck. I have a new deck at my house. Thank you so much. It's the best game of the world. Put this in your cabin. Okay. I also got you a cabin book. This a really good dog. It's a good photo.
I don't know how many coffee table books you're supposed to own, but my wife is...
Coffee table books are basically art for people that can't afford real art is what I'm learning.
Because we just have so many of them. Right. And I'm like, so anyway, I just took one today.
I'm like, oh, here's one that's about to,
put this in your cabin and we'll see if my wife ever knows
that one book out of 800 disappeared.
And you know what else?
The thing is I don't look at them
because when I do look at them, you break the spine
and now it's not a pretty coffee table book anymore.
Right, now it's a book.
Get that off my desk. Get that off my desk.
Get that off the desk.
I bought this one time, thinking a sound thing would be a good thing, a training mechanism
for the dog.
But what I realized was I'm torturing the other pets in the house.
Everyone gets tortured.
Right, so I'm like, I can't have this fucking thing.
I'm just trying to tell Carl to shut up for one second.
No, you need the ones that have a vibrating collar.
Right, I got that one. This one has electric and vibrating. I've turned this thing up to 20,
where I think it would fry a chicken and Carl just thinks it's funny.
Just like, ah, just keeps barking at it. So I'm like, I don't want that anymore.
Are you giving all these torture devices to me?
Well, this, I don't know. Maybe you hand that to somebody else.
You just told me that was a multiple animal torture device.
I get it.
You know how to responsibly regift something.
Look, I even have the paperwork still.
Fantastic.
Can I warranty it?
Just get rid of it, please.
Those are all the gifts that I brought.
Thank you so much.
I'm gonna be honest for a second.
I was like, oh, I'm gonna give him one of my stand-in
fake clone dog stuffed animals. That's sweet. And then I go I can't do it. I can't get rid of it yet
Hey, they say you recently had an injury. Yeah while skiing. Yeah, so how long are you gonna milk this thing?
Well, I mean it was a pretty bad injury. When was it? May 5th Cinco de Mayo
Oh, yeah, why are you skiing so late into the season?
I mean it's mammoth. I know. The season goes on forever.
And it had actually dumped 10 inches the night before.
It was a great powder day.
I raced in the morning in a boarding for breast cancer race.
I was the only skier in my division, so I won.
Congratulations.
Then the top popped, so I went up to the top.
I had four great runs off the top.
And then fifth run, missed a turn on a tough run,
tumbled down the mountain, broke my right knee
and a couple bones in my back
before coming to a rest on the mountain.
I had knee surgery that night.
In mammoth?
Yeah.
No, no, they've got good orthopedic surgeons there
because it happens all the time.
I was laid up for two months, like not moving,
and then slowly rehabbing back.
You buying your pass for this year?
It's already bought.
Opening days of November 15th.
Are you good?
I'll ski. There's no question.
Will you dial it back?
Whatever my knee lets me do.
All right. But you don't want to put your...
I mean, knees and backs are things
that you kind of want to, you know,
take care of on some.
The back healed up real nice.
I'm going to get into this.
Yeah, let's do it.
I ride, I snowboard, I cross country as well,
but I had to move to Tahoe over Mammoth
because this is going to get me in trouble.
The people in Mammoth. Eh, a bit much.
In what way?
I don't know.
Too grungy for you?
Yep. Yep.
So that's why I love Mammoth.
But you know, the mountain's great.
The season is long.
It's far enough away from LA that it doesn't get super busy
except maybe on the weekends.
And it's easy, you know, for me it's a five hour drive.
Oh, wait, hold on.
We didn't talk about this.
You're glutton to die.
Do you have your pilot's license or you're getting it?
Getting my pilot's license.
Why?
You love it?
Flying is very exciting.
Scary.
But the main mission is to get to Mammoth faster.
Are you gonna buy like a little Cessna?
I'm looking at a Cirrus.
So you need a turbo to get, to be able to take off and land in the summer in Mammoth just because of the elevation and heat.
Landing in elevation is tricky from what I know.
In the Truckee airport, you know, I know a few people that have had some mishaps and...
Yeah, the air density is a lot less so the performance of your plane is reduced.
One time I had a pilot tell me,
he's like, well, just fly into Reno then, man,
if you're worried about it.
And I go, yeah, but I don't wanna drive an extra hour.
And he's like.
But you don't wanna die.
Right, but if I die, it's kinda like, all right.
I see what you're saying.
But if I don't die, then I have to drive an hour,
and I'm mad.
You'd be happier that you're alive.
You get my point.
I do.
Listen, you're becoming a pilot
just so your commute is shorter.
That's correct.
There's a airport in Bishop, which is about 40 minutes away.
So that's the option if you can't land at Mammoth,
but what a pain in the ass.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, listen, Adam, thank you for being on the show.
I appreciate it.
My pleasure.
Had a great time.
And I hope one day you can fly me up to Tahoe.
We'll go over Mammoth and we'll be like,
hey, look at those folk.
Yeah, we'll ride together in Tahoe, that'll be fine.
Done.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Yep.
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Hey, I want to thank Adam for being on the show.
Carl, he says you're in tip top shape.
And I believe him.
Now, if he said, hey, we could get Carl in tip-top shape, but it's
going to cost $5,000, I would be like, ugh. I think it's time we have a serious talk.
I'm kidding, Carl. I couldn't put a price tag on what I would spend to keep you healthy.
I mean, I could. It's about $5,000. Now that pig, I don't know what I'm spend to keep you healthy. I mean I could it's about 5,000. Now that
pig I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do if he
starts tipping the scales upwards of 50 pounds and it keeps climbing. Currently
you know under 8, under 8 pounds. We'll see what happens. But thanks Adam for
being on the show. That was very nice
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Now we're gonna be adding new stuff to that real soon I'd like to get a trucker cap maybe a
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some Vegas new dates coming up gonna head to the East Coast. Oh gonna be on the East
Coast. Gonna do the Midwest as well in 2025. Now it's time for the free plug. Go
ahead.
I like that. You're you're indifferent. Okay.
The Free Plug Music. Wrap it up.
Alright.
Wrap it up.
Free Plug Music.
We're still going.
The most expensive thing
about the Free Plug?
Free Plug Music.
We gotta get our money's worth. They're just gonna let it keep jamming.
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best catch on Lake Coshkenong, come to the Wisconsin Friday Fish Fry at
Coshkenong Mounds Country Club.
Man, I love a fish fry.
What kind of fish is in Koshkenong?
Walleye?
You think they got a freshwater salmon?
Probably trout.
They definitely got trout.
That sounds good.
Anyway, the Clubhouse Bar opens at 11 a.m.
Dinner is served from 4 to 9 p.m.
Reservations are recommended, but not mandatory.
Okay?
Full menu will be available.
That's good.
You know, some people don't like fish.
And they're going to want,
hey, you know, I like your T-bone.
You think they have a T-bone there on the menu?
Yeah.
Yeah, they got a T-bone.
I used to want people to call me t-bone
You guys gotta start calling me t-bone
Sure thing t-bone. Hey, let me get back to this plug. Also, you'll be pleased to know that the Lakeview upgrade project
Has already taken down the wooden fence behind the wedding
lawn, along with many dead trees.
So the view is even better now.
Wow.
That's the Wisconsin Friday fish fry on Lake Koshkenong.
See you next week, guys.
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