Tosh Show - My favorite athlete with no legs

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Daniel talks to Blake Leeper, a Paralympic world record sprinter with no legs.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Tosh show. Another episode. How you doing, Eddie? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm well, thank you. You got any cool new vids I need to check out? No, no videos this week. Huh!

Your only job is to get me one interesting video that I may have missed. It is slipped through the cracks that I didn't see in you. And there's none this week. What? That's the beauty of Tosh show. Apparently some weeks, no videos. So, uh, anything going on in the world that I need to know about? No.

All right. Well, I'm caught up. Let's talk sports. Got my favorite Paralympian on today. And I'm excited about that. Let me tell you something about US athletes that compete under a different country's flag. This happens all the time because they're not good enough

to compete under the American flag. They don't make the team, so they go to another country. I want you to know that you're a trader, okay? And then I pray that you get injured. And then you find out how great the US healthcare system really is. I'm only half joking. I understand why US athletes go to other countries.

It's a great opportunity, but I just think it's, I don't know, it's not. I'm always like, these are Americans. Here's what, here's my stance. Like on California, you know how long you have to live in California before you're supposed to get a California driver license. 10 days. Don't look it up, Eddie. I've already done it.

And let me tell you something. These people that come here live here 10 years and refuse to get a license because they don't want to pay the high insurance, car insurance, all of that nonsense, registration. It's a mess. So, I don't really believe the number of the people that actually live here is way higher. They don't even get me started on the illegals. For the record, I love illegals. Oh, that's how I feel about tennis players, all these Russians.

They all grew up in South Florida. They all trained in South Florida at tennis academies and Florida. I think if you play tennis in Florida for 10 days, you're now a U.S. citizen. This is where I, I'm just tired of all these other countries getting credit for these great athletes that only became great athletes because they trained in America. I think it's a decent, I think it's a decent point. I think I can actually get some of my red state Republican fans to get behind me on this. In 2028, the Olympics are here in LA. I'm kind of excited to see what happens.

Our freeway burnt down last week, so I can only imagine how flawless building these Olympic villages is going to go. I also want to compete. In 2028, I'll be 53. I want to compete in surfing. Now, I'm certainly not a professional surfer, but there's got to be some, you know, Jamaican Bob's Lead type scenario where there's a country that would let me compete and I don't know what the qualifying is to get into surfing in the Olympics, but this is what I need to happen. So, you know, I was born in Germany, I was in Macintosh, shortened to Tosh, I was originally,

I think my family was in Ireland at some point. I think they changed the name and fled the country. I don't know what they did, probably something awful. Doesn't matter. Find a country. Some whole, some landlock hellhole. And then I'll be your flag bearer. Well, I certainly want to do the opening ceremony. That's my favorite part of the opening ceremony is is the small countries that have like two people or one person competing. It's great. It's always in some event that nobody gives a shit about. By the way, the Olympics, the summer games, should have two events. It should just have running and jumping the end. That should be the Olympics. We don't need all the every year.

Oh, did you hear that they're adding touchwiffleball? No. I didn't hear about touch whiffleball. But by the way, and running, running fine. I'm, I'm, I'm, running should be in the Olympics because it makes sense. But running in general is the dumbest thing on the planet. I honestly can't think of anything worse. I've never, you're, you're runner ready. I mean, I used to know that knees are killing me. You ever, you ever got

had runners high? No, I've never run that far. People talk about runners high. Like, it's a good thing. You know what else gets you high? Fentanyl. I don't do that either. Fentanyl. Fentanyl get you high, right? Oh, yeah. Running's never been my thing. That's why I'm so inspired by today's guest. A world-class sprinter would never be something that interests me, but he's overcome so many obstacles. I mean, I'm a tall, handsome, successful, straight white male. The only obstacles I've ever had to deal with are my in-laws.

Blake was born without legs. He's a built-in excuse to never run. He's going against God's will. God's plan for Blake was to be a couch potato or a fancy throw pillow. Enjoy. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy is the greatest murder mystery in American history. That's Rob Breiner, Rob called me,

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app,, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Pa, show. My guest today is an eight time track and field and metalist world record holder and my favorite sprinter with no legs. Please welcome Blake Leeper. Thank you so much. Your favorite spinner without legs. I love that title. I want you to know that I have a lot of black friends without legs. Yes, yes. I'm sure it's like an ample amount and I'm your favorite one out of all of them. Well, yeah, most of them don't run. I mean, what are the odds that your name is Leaper?

I know, right? But without legs, last name, Leaper. That's just weird. It's always how it is. Sinsi Humour. My name is John White. By the way, I should definitely start by thanking you for your service. Yeah, it's all right.

I'm sure you're right. I'm sure it's like an ample amount. And I'm your favorite one out of all of them. Well, yeah, most of them don't run. I mean, what are the odds that your name is Leaper? I know,. Sinsi humor. My name is John White. By the way, I should definitely start by thanking you for your service or country. No, I'm not military. No, okay. I'm not military. No, I'm not military. You didn't serve me Vietnam.

I did not. I was in Vietnam. You'd be surprised how many people think that I was. You weren't Vietnam. Well, because I mean, black people don't age. I don't know. I don't want to guess how old you were. That's okay.

So you were, our research is horrible. Blake, this is my first question I asked all my guests. Do you believe in ghosts? Yes. I would say I do believe in ghosts. Honestly, gun to your head, you believe in ghosts. Yes, I do believe in ghosts. Really?

Yes, I do. I felt them tickle my feet at night when I'm joking. No. You don't believe in ghosts. Yes, I do believe in ghosts. Really? Yes, I do. I felt them tickle my feet at night when I'm joking. No, you don't believe in ghosts. Yes, I do. No, I do. You really do. I don't know if it's ghosts or spirits. It's nothing.

It's something that's like floating around us. No, there's nothing. That we can't see, but we feel. No, we don't feel anything. Right, don't you feel something? No, never. All the stories and everything. Could care less about the stories. Couldn't care less. Worried born. Yeah, I was born something? No, never. All the stories and everything. Could care less about the stories.

Couldn't care less. Worried born. Yeah, I was born in Kingsport, Tennessee, like 60 miles east of a Knoxville, Tennessee, for people who don't know. Born with the congenital birth defect, fibular hemorrhemia. So the day that I was born,

the doctors basically told my parents, my mother and father that I was never gonna walk or run a day of my life. My legs didn't develop. I didn't grow anything, basically below my knees. I have my knee joints, but I'm missing my calf muscles and my day in my life. My legs didn't develop, I didn't grow anything, basically below my knees, I have my knee joints, but I'm missing my calf muscles and my ankles and my feet.

Okay, yeah, that's a blow. That's because this is, I don't know, hold, are you? Yeah, I'm 33 now. Okay, so I mean, they didn't know this until you were delivered. Right, right, so I was delivered, took me into the ICU, came back and had the conversation with my mother and father, Mr. Mrs. Leapur, I'm sorry, but your baby boy, Blake is born missing both of his legs.

You know, he's never gonna walk, he's never gonna jump, he's gonna be bound in a wheelchair, his whole life. And so like, it was, I would say, and initially a blow to my family. Did it be, of course. Yeah, yeah, definitely was a blow to my family. You're a father. Yes, I am, I am.

And how old are you? Just three. Three. Yeah, God, it's such a crazy. Let me show you, you did a pandemic. Yeah, I am. I am. And how was your three? Three. Yeah, God, it's such a crazy thing. Well, let me tell you, you did a pandemic. Yeah, I had a pandemic baby. I did. You were just bored.

Oh, my gosh. I had nothing else to do. I was in a home making babies. It was ridiculous. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. But like, you obviously, I assume, went to all these checkups. Oh, my gosh.

Yes. And if you would have, like in this day and age, if you would have found out, like, oh, at nine weeks or 10 weeks, hey, there's no legs in your baby. Some people might be like, oh, I don't want to have this child. Right, right.

And it's a common situation. You know, having a child with a disability, we don't want to deal with this. The divorce rate goes up with the parents, like all these things that come with the stigmatism of having a child missing, not only one leg, but missing both his legs. And so for my parents to kind of stick into it, right?

I asked them the day that I was born, like, well, what'd you say? Like, mom, like, who'd you, you know, my mom's, so as a Christian woman, but she cussed out, the, you know, who'd you cussed out with the doctors, but they tell me they did two things in the moment when they found out that I was born missing both of my legs. The first thing, they decided to stick together

as a family and as a unit and the second thing was a keep a positive attitude towards my situation specifically being born without legs. That's pretty great. Are they still together? Yeah, they still together. Yeah, they're safe and down there. They fight every day, but they're still together.

They ain't each other, they blame you. Yeah, they use the, where'd you go to college? I went to university of Tennessee. Go balls, go balls, baby. Let me tell you something, I truly love blame you. Yeah, they used to, where'd you go to college? I went to university of Tennessee. Go balls, go balls, baby. Let me tell you something. I truly love Knoxville. Yes, it's a city. Yes, is it a great knock?

Do we call it Knox Vegas? Were you an athlete at the university of Knox, or university of Tennessee? No, I wasn't. So I did play basketball and baseball growing up as a kid, but once I went to university of Tennessee, I was just kind of focusing on my studies. I was pre-med when I applied physics.

So I wanted to be an orthopedic surgeon. That was altered, obviously, once I got the running blades, so I got the running process that it blades in college, started competing competitively and became one of the fastest parallel Olympic runners in the world within a year. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. Yeah, yeah.

Am I supposed to be able? Yeah, so it's interesting, because I am technically a disabled man, so I am a man with a disability and to compare against people that have their legs, I say abled body runners or somebody that is abled body, but it's kind of interesting that I am labeled disabled, but I'm faster than you.

So, you think you're faster, and you don't know, I've never actually exerted like my full force. I have no idea how fast I could go. I mean, as a white man with those type of glasses and that outfit, I guarantee you that I am. You think that that is not, you can't, you can. I'm not bound by a sweater and glasses.

I didn't pick the sweater out. The glasses help me read because I'm old. I'm pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, I get your, so you're 400 meters this way. Is your special. Right, right, yes, that's still farther than I want to go. I'm pretty quick. Yeah. I mean, I get your, so you're 400 meters. This is your special. Right. Right. Right. Yes. That's still farther than I want to go. I just hate running. Yeah. Does that bother you that people with legs hate running? No, it doesn't. I mean, to be honest with you, I hated running growing up as a kid too. I mean, I was missing both of my legs. So I always came last in all the running events. So as a kid growing up, I hated running.

Like I couldn't... How bad were you, at the beginning of your life where your legs... It was pretty, I mean, it was like... The technology was like sticks, basically. Imagine me as a pirate, just like two sticks, just like walking around, just like... Did your family have money?

Or like, I mean, so they did. They had good jobs and they had, my mom was a nurse. So we did have the whole fight and the battle with the insurance companies because people for those who don't realize Especially in the disabled community certain prosthetic legs like the ones you see me walking today are consider a luxury Of course and not a necessity so you can say hey, I want to run. I want to walk you send your letter into the insurance You know company and say we don't care right figure figure it out. We'd rather you sit at home. Yes. Play video games.

Exactly. So my mom was a big advocate for me to get the right prosthetic legs with their insurance, just to stay active. I didn't get the running blades, but I had decent legs to play basketball and baseball as a kid. And then once I got the running legs,

that was the biggest jump in my career to where I was just an average kid, maybe average disabled kid that could run up down the basketball court to now I'm one of the fastest Paralympians disabled men in the world. You were born without legs, yet you're considered an amputee. Yes, so because I had a technically at four or five years old, I went back, I had a revision of my legs where I had like two toes on my left leg and one like baby toe on my right leg

and they just went in and just like cut them off. They serve no purpose? Yeah, they serve no purpose. I mean, because that was going to slide my... Were there feelings on them? Yeah, wait, I could move them. I can like, and they cut my toes off. Could have you left them on?

I mean, I could, but I was getting like blisters and like calluses and all my toes. And so because I was like pounding on them inside my socket so much on my stump, I'm not sure. That they just cut them off. And so because they cut them off technically, I fell into the FBT category. And it's a lot easier to say FBT

than congenital birth defect fibler, here in Million. Yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. I'm never gonna say that. What's more frustrating, being born without legs or being a black man in America? Ooh, that's a good one, because they actually are close to being equal.

I'm not gonna lie, I get judged. Double top hard, because I get discriminated as a black man on a daily basis, especially growing up in East Tennessee. But then I also face discrimination as a man missing both of his legs in the assumption of what I can and cannot do. So, like emotionally, you're like in a great play.

Like you've figured life out. Yeah, I mean, I would say I figured it out just because all the trials and tribulations that I've been through in my life, that life sucks. Life isn't fair. So either you're gonna cry about it or you're gonna laugh about it. Are you one of these people?

I assume you are too positive, but no, where you're like, I wouldn't have it, if I could do it all over, I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, I am, I am, I am, because this is who I am. I'm dead, who cares? I would change everything about myself. Would you? Yes.

Would you change? I mean, every decision, I'm like, well, that was the wrong one. I should have done that. But the wrong decisions is the lessons that you learned, right? No, right? I mean, yeah, yes, in theory, but I'm still saying

I would be one of these people that would want to redo and correct almost everything. Yeah, I mean, but could you imagine me with legs? I would just be just a born black dude. Maybe the greatest. Or maybe the greatest, you know, most famous athlete in the history of the world. True, or I could be a tap dancer.

That's one thing I think if I, and I don't want to be a tap dancer, right? No, no, not the history of the world. True, or I could be a tap dancer. That's one thing I think, if I, and I don't wanna be a tap dancer, right? No, no, no, not thought of the genre of dance that you wanna be great at. Tap is just fucking annoying. It's loud, it's ruining floors. Which is in there. If I have both my legs,

I'll just be tap dancing my ass all over the place. I don't like it. Did you have a normal dating life? Yeah, I did. I actually, I did. You know, I struggled as a kid, right? Growing up, you know, being judged because of my legs and sometimes I even dated girls

and didn't tell them about my legs. You could pull it off? I could pull it off until you, as you know, we went home. And went to bed and I could not pull it off. I just was like, pop, pop. Oh, by the way, I'm missing both of my legs. I was with a girl one time and she's like, I gotta tell you something and I was like I was like and I was in my head I was like let's prepare for everything yeah because I don't I don't want to act like right

I'm not okay with this I was just preparing. Yeah, what is she gonna tell me and then she told me that she She had what's my call a class to me bag. Oh, I was like all right. That's not bad. So your buttolles clean Was the good part. But I did have to, I had to prepare myself. Did you think she was gonna miss a leg? No, I had no idea. But I just remembered that was like a weird, I know it was, I feel like all this is weird because she has to have this conversation with everybody that she's potentially gonna

right, I wear a clostomy bag. Right, so you obviously if you're hiding your legs, that's a real conversation, but if you're not hiding it, it's pretty much a... Right, right, it's out there. And so most times, especially now, I wear shorts where I'm out and about, and people obviously, I get the stairs, I get the looks,

but I've kind of now embraced it. Were there girls that were into it? Actually, yes, there were. Does that make you go like, all right, I don't like that either? Yeah, no, I mean, I'm kind of into it. Actually, there's a name for that. I'm sure there is.

They're called divotays. So divotays are individuals that are into people with missing like their legs. So like if you take your leg off, they like the whole nub play, and the nub action. That's not like that. I'm gonna be honest with you.

I've never liked the term nub. I know, but that's the scientific name for it. I have, so because I'm missing both of my legs, I take my legs off in my stumps that I have on my nubs. When you're home alone, you don't have, do you know legs or legs? I depends.

It's just, I guess sometimes I keep my legs on. If I had a long day, I can just chill. I take my legs off. I can function completely with my legs off. Like I can climb on counters. I can go use the bathroom. I can climb on the bed. But I get the point eight to point B quicker

with my legs on. So you're saying within a year of you getting your running blades, you became, what was like, where did you compete first? So I competed in Oklahoma, it's like back in 2009. It was like a local paralympic event, and I ran 100 meters, I qualified for my team, and then by my second race, they called me,

and they invited me to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. And my second race in Track and Field was in Brazil, competing internationally for the USA. Brazilians. Scary group of people. That's what it depends on you asked. I had fun in Brazil. Rio was amazing.

As you can imagine, like I've like blink my eyes, run two races. I'm more Copacabana Beach just like and like as a 19 year old. And I was like, you know what? So much thick ass. Yeah, I think I like this work. This is good. This is gonna be good. The categories in the pair are games.

Yes. There's a lot of categories. There's a lot of categories. It gets very, very confusing. Come in, you have, because you can't compete against somebody that's just slightly missing something. Right, well, if they're missing a leg,

then I can't potentially compete against them. Okay. If they're missing both. Right, well, if they're missing a leg, then I can compete, I can't potentially compete against them. Okay. If they're missing both their legs, then I definitely would probably compete below the knees. Uh huh. And then if they're missing their leg above the knee as a different category, you have blind athletes in that category.

You have cerebral palsy athletes, and then you also have wheelchair athletes too as well. And different categories within those disabilities. So I mean, we're talking almost metal ceremonies at a Paralympic Games, because there's so many A. So many anthems. Yeah, there's a lot of it. There's a lot of it.

It's funny to you saying that, because you're just constantly just hearing, just like certain anthems in certain countries, just like constantly popping up, you're like these guys again. If you take a knee during the National Anthem, is it controversial, or is it like, hey, give the guy a break, he doesn't have any legs.

I mean, most of the time I do get a bring with it because of my disability, but I'm feeling about to get that knee. It would cause a little controversy. Legs are no legs. The thing that was very interesting, obviously, is that you are skilled enough to compete in the Olympics. Yes, yes. I'm just going to the Olympics. Your time is fast enough, obviously, and you wanted to. Yes.

And then what happened? Yes, that was my goal is to compete to be the fastest man in the world. Once I competed in Paralympics and did that took a silver and a bronze in the 2012, that's when I kind of knew I could be the fastest running the world. Legs are no leg.

So I started training, because you know, setting everything up. Did they say that you cannot do this? No, not initially at first. So at first they say it's okay. I went out there, broke a few world records. I went to national championships, qualified it for nationals.

And then in 2019 is when I took fifth at the USATF national championships against the able bodied runners. And when I did that, I broke my own world record ran 44 seconds I'm in the 400 meters. That's when the sanctions started to come and they said you have an unfair advantage in your prostate It legs do you know are you kidding me? Daniel? I'm born without legs like You're preaching to the choir on this one. Yeah, but now the height was the was the biggest issue

That was the biggest issue and so you you have to understand, people are tall, are you from stump to head? On my knees, I'm like four foot, four foot half, on my knees. And so my stump's like a foot each. So I was like five feet. So they said that the height advantage was the issue. Yes, because I missed my legs,

they was trying to dictate my height and tell me how tall I would have been if I had my legs. That seems like there can be a computer program out there that could figure that out. I know, right? And so they try to create a formula, but you know, we feel like the formula is all... What was the problem with the formula? I know the problem. So the problem with the formula. Asians and white people. Yes, it was all the Asian and white men in the formula.

Right. The formula only used Asian and white men to determine your height. Yes, yes, and me as a black man, I felt like I got missed out on the test population. Like it wasn't considering my body demigral, what my body structure could potentially be. Right, so, but it didn't. No one goes, oh, hey, I wanna know how tall I'm gonna be.

Well, how tall are Asians? Yeah, that was the issue. So when you implement me into this formula that there's only has a representation of, it was like 50 white all-show-yam-in and 15 Japanese Asian-min. And I come out not six two, but I come out a little bit under five nine. So 5.8 feet, I know, I lost six inches.

No one, you don't wanna to ever be under six feet. Oh my God, it's horrible. I have little man syndrome, like I'm just pissed off at the world, just every time I put him on. So it's done, it's over. Yeah, technically it is done. I'm back running at 5.8 feet, competing in a pair of Olympics. I'm still kind of confused.

Oh, so you're doing it in the Par Olympics because well, yeah, I'm doing a parallel in big too as well. So I'm back running in the parallel Olympics. No, no, but at 5.8, why wouldn't you because they didn't have a problem with you running at 6.2? No, the parallel Olympics had a problem me running. Yeah, yeah, it was a new rule in a parallel in bigs 2. It was both a combined rule that just started within the last two to three years. It seemed like some crazy big wig law firm here in Los Angeles. But here this story, you know what?

I feel like taking his side and let's figure it way around this. Yeah, well, I mean, I took it to the quarter sport. It's the highest quarter sport in Switzerland. Geneva, Switzerland. Uh-huh. Twice. And out of the two times, we both lost the case. And at this point, I mean, technically, I could continue to keep fighting it.

Okay. But at this point in my career, I'm 33, I got like four or five years left, I'm still doing things on the outside, still talking about it, I have a documentary coming out about it, but for the most part, I wanna beat him at their own game. Like I wanna just accept the unfair rule and just shove it in their face.

Right, but I wanted you in the Olympic. I know me too. I'm watching like, so their world championships is happening right now with the Abel body and I'm seeing guys that I used to run with and like beat and compete with. And they're like fighting for it. And it'd be great just to hear all the people

like shit talking. Right. That's not fair. It's controversy. Like I mean, I mean, it'd be a great conversation for Track and Field. Of course. It'd be a great topic to go back and forth. Is it fair?

Is it not fair? Can this guy without legs become the fastest man in the world? And it's like it challenges society of being a disabled man and being the best in the world. Yes. I agree. I mean, Track and Field is interesting without this for two minutes every four years.

Yeah, exactly. And everybody thinks like, oh, the legs are getting better. No. So you're getting faster, but that doesn't matter. In general, athletes over time have always evolved faster. Yeah, we're just learning more. We're just knowing more about like the technology hasn't changed. We're just starting to understand the carbon fiber a lot better and understanding how to use it and getting it in hand of the user at an early age to perform and better users. it hasn't changed. We're just starting to understand the carbon fiber a lot better and understanding how to use it and getting it in hand of the user at a early age

to perform and better users. So. What about the weight? Is it supposed to be comparable to weight or no? Yeah, a little bit lighter. With the carbon fiber, lighter, stronger, faster, springier is always better when it comes to sprinting. And so then it is an advantage.

I mean, I mean, so it's interesting because things on the able-bodied side for like running materials, the mean, so it's interesting because things on the ablebody side for like running materials, the spike plates, the surfaces that you run on has enhanced over the past 20, 30 years. So if these things are making ablebody runners faster than the things that's making a disabled runner faster should have the same increase in development.

Right, right. Well, that's tough, so. It's a tough, just say that it's completely even. I don't know how would I know. Right, right, right. And so, but at the end of the day, it's just like, all the lens that you look at it, like some people are gonna look at it and say,

you know, dude, you clearly have an unfair advantage. You wear in prostitutes, you wear in technology against able body runners and some people will be like, there's no way you have an unfair advantage. You wear in prostitute, you wear in technology against able body runners and some people will be like, there's no way you have an unfair advantage. You're missing both your legs. What's your stance on transgender people performing in sports? Oh, there's a tough topic. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be tough. It shouldn't be. You should be. You should say,

here's what I'm going to tell you what you should say. You should say, I'm fine with it. Yes. I have no issue. I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have no issues. I know it's a huge controversy. Well, here's my thing with, here's my take on this. Okay. I'm gonna bring it back to you. Because it's like, when people say, oh, they have an unfair advantage.

Or what if a man then just pretends, or says I'm trans and just to compete and make all this money in this sport that's dominated by women. You know, and I say to that good, let that person do that fine. That person wants to be a woman to compete and make some money great. Yes. I don't care. First of all, it's a game.

I don't care. Intertain it. Bring it to you. Or do you have the same fear in the Paralympics? What if somebody's like, oh, I'm just gonna cut my leg off just so I can compete against people? Yeah, it would never happen in a Paralympic games. I don't think somebody would deliberately cut this.

Do you think they would, but what if somebody's like, no, like, let's say bolt is like, you know, the end of the right for my career, I'm gonna see if I can do it. Yeah, I'm gonna cut myself off from the knees down and I'm gonna compete and you're like, that's not fair. He did it on purpose. Yeah, well, it bolt cut his legs off and when try to compete, I would, I would dust, who's saying both? With the legs cut off.

I would, with his legs cut off. Sure, well, I mean, that's a big claim. That's a big claim. But I just, you know, as somebody that does get discriminated against, you know, I really do believe in equality and just like a fair chance. So, like, I'm in the face of discrimination on a daily basis as a black disabled man.

So I like seeing that, it is, I'm very unfortunate. How much longer do you have at that kind of the top of the game? Ah, that's a good question. You're 33. 33, Daniel, and you know the Olympics, and Paralympics will be in LA. I know, in 2028. 2028, so I'm gonna be 38 in 2028, so God.

I can pull it off. I mean, that'd be exciting to run in your own bag. Right, I mean, look at Tom Brady made it to like, no, Tom Brady wouldn't do shit. Yeah. Tom Brady might as well not have like, he stands back there and he dinks and dunked down the feel like, oh, he's up.

Tom can make it, LeBron's still out there down there. LeBron. LeBron's an example that I accept. Okay, look at LeBron. But when people talk about Tom Brady is the greatest athlete, I just, I'm like, what are you talking about? There's nothing athletic about what he does. He's dropped back three steps.

It has one of the best. Right. He throws a, he can throw a ball good. And he, and it can move a little bit, but barely. It's not, that's not the greatest good. And he can move a little bit, but barely. That's not the greatest app. That's absurd. True, true.

You've seen his 40 before, it's not good. Yeah, it's just like sad, dad bod bouncing down the road. By the way, when you race, whatever the body part crosses the finish line first. No, when you race, it's your torso that crosses. So your head, not your hand, but that's why you see runners lean. I always saw them lean. I just always would play whatever.

Whatever knows, no, it's from your shoulders to your, to your, to your, to your basically your torso, your shoulders to your hips. So you can dive across the line if that crosses, you're good to go. Has your leg ever flew off during the race? It has.

Yes. 2016 National Championships. I'm running a hundred meters, sprinting all out. I go to step at meter 95. I look down, leg is gone. And when I fell down, I just like tucked and rolled over the line. Well, what place did you come in? It's a second.

So it worked out, but it does happen every so often. I don't want to make you speak for an entire race of people and a sex of people that you're not, but I'm going to ask you this question regardless, because I've always thought about this. Running in the Olympics, obviously, I'm talking to Sprints, dominated by black athletes. Fine. Okay.

Now I'm talking about females. If you watch swim, winning and losing races is within a point second or whatever. Right. 90-frax. Kind of a seconds. Swimmers. Shave every bit of their body, everything, because it gives them

a slight bit of advantage. Yeah, yeah. Female black racers will have so much hair, jewelry and everything. And all of that, I was like, why wouldn't there be ones like, no, no, I'm shaving everything to, I'm doing no rings, I'm doing no, because all of that, I was like, why wouldn't there be ones like, no, no, I'm shaving everything to, I'm doing no rings, I'm doing no do it, because all of that is a weight.

Technically, yes, yes. But no one ever says, no, I'm not gonna have any. And you know, you're running, you'll have facial hair. You shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, the facial hair, the beard, the, you know, I mean, the chains, like anything that goes into it, because it's scientifically proven that if you look good, you run faster. I don't, oh, like anything that goes into it, because it's scientifically proven that if you look good, you run faster.

I don't, oh yeah, that's not what this insanity. I just can't believe there's not one athletes, like no, I'm gonna streamline to nothing. I mean, I think with the force and the power technically that you're producing on the track, it doesn't, I was mad. Yes, it does matter. That's wait, if you have all this hair, and you didn't have it, you are now lighter.

Lighter makes faster. Yeah, I mean technically, I guess, yeah, lighter is, is faster in theory. If I tell you to drag a garden hose, you're going to be slower. True, true. But if you're going to win it anyway, you want to cross the line, look good, which I mean. I'm just, I'm just, I'm amazed that I feel like there could be some time shaved off. Nobody cares about this. It's just my thing that I sit at home and go, I could make them faster. I'm going to be the old man going, put your jewelry away.

Put your chain away. You go on faster. Talk about the, the, the booker's sugar. Oh, man. Yes. That was a, that was a crazy time in my life, right? Okay. So you were just a part of your, yeah. Yeah. Man, I was, I was partying.

I was hanging around the wrong people, you know. That was like you're hanging on the right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who recorded to the Olivia committee.

And you got, you got suspended for a year for the positive, yeah. Tested positive for the cocaine. Yes, I was in, you know, coming from Tennessee, moving to California. I don't blame California. For your fucking, it's your crazy California decision. It's cocaine to Tennessee.

Are you kidding me? These have a moonshine and that's it. But you know, moving out to California, just training, you know, it was a part of my life where I just couldn't say no. I was partying, hanging out with the wrong people. Just people in general, I go to a track meet and I test positive for cocaine, crap.

Then I get suspended for a year, which was just like, because they thought it was a steroids. Yeah, well, I was running so fast, that it's technically not a performing thing that has a drug, but it cannot be in your system. I had a track meet. So I'm like, at a track meet, you know. You obviously knew this, so you were trying to get away with it.

Well, no, I wasn't trying to get away with it. I just thought it would be out of my system like before I got to the track meet, but I was like at the track meet. You did it last night. No, I was like, oh, the problem was, I was like at the track meet, like looking like Bobby Brown, just like my jaw instead of the left and I'm joking. But and they was like,

we got to test this guy. And they not test everyone. No, no, I don't test everyone. So it's like just the black people. Yeah. Yeah. With the chains, right? Yeah. So that was bad. So when you got tested, you were like, you didn't think you were going to fail. No, I didn't think I was going to fail. I think I was going to be out of my system. I'd be good. They actually caught the medical, medical, biological breakdown of cocaine.

So they actually didn't find cocaine. They found like what cocaine breaks down into your system. And then with finding that, they said you've taken it before. And you denied that, right? Yeah, I mean, they know it. And I was like, yes, it was me. I had to go into a, like a Olympic,

a Olympic drug program. And I had to go into a Olympic Paralympic drug program and I had to take three drug tests for a four-year cleanup. Was it easy to clean up? It was, because I really wanted to really do this. I knew I had a special opportunity. Obviously, I was having fun in that part of my life. It goes back to the conversation we had earlier. I said, I don't regret a few things in my life.

I kind of regret that. I regret that. You should skip that race. I didn't regret a few things in my life, I kind of regret that. You should have skipped that race. I didn't skip that race. But I finally got to tap into my true potential. Cleaned up my life, putting down the party, and then I made a decision, I wanted it to be great, and then put everything down, just focus on track,

and by doing that, that's when things started happening for me. See, that's good. I like the idea. I've always been kind of like, I don't want to focus too hard because I don't want to find out that I'm not great. Right, right, right. That's the fear to be like, I'm not good enough for I'm not the man that I tell people that I did it. Well, so it's nice to be like, oh, if I tried harder, I could be.

Right, right. And that's what I was doing. Like, well, I didn't try that harder. Well, I stayed up late, party, and hanging, hanging, and then once I did that and gave it everything, I mean, I didn't try that hard. Well, I stayed up late, party, and hanging, and then once I did that and gave it everything, I mean, like, dedicated my life to this. Like, are you faster, rate the second than you've ever been? Uh, no, I'm not, because I'm shorter.

Oh, am I? Yeah, I'm in the best shape I've ever been in my life right now. And like, so two years ago, I was the fifth fastest 400 meter run in the world. I mean, I assume everyone was doing the hype thing. Yes, yes. As well. So it's interesting.

It was an even playing field. Yeah, it was an even playing field. Paralympians across the board lost their hype, but because I was a black man implemented into this formula that did not represent me, I became the shortest out of everybody. For example, the average MPT, double-leg MPT lost two to three inches,

I lost six inches. I know, I know. But that seems this versus this seems... Yes, a lot. I mean, it seems fair. You got to get it back somehow, right? I think we all know what I was referring to. He's give him six inches. All right, fair enough. Hey, by the way, that's a bathroom behind that door. I was going to get go, but I'm worried that if I'm in there, that you would potentially shoot through the door. I don't want to lump you guys all together, but talk about Oscar. Yeah.

You've raised against him. I've raised against the giz- Oscar white. Yes, he is a white guy. And it's interesting because he's a white South African and I'm a black American, but once the whole controversy went down and I'm walking through the airport with my running blades and people just heard this, you know, African blade runner.

Ah, so a lot of people like initially thought, I was the guy, you know, so you shot Oscar's wife. Yeah, they thought they thought that legit. Like wait, I heard an African guy missing both of his legs. And I was like, no, no, no, he's a white South African. So it's like, you don't have to worry. But yeah, I competed it. I was actually the last person to compete alongside of the

stories in 2012 at the Paralympic Games. And weren't the last one. Yeah, yeah. Someone else was trying to run. Yeah. Sorry, that's not, that's insensitive. Was he faster than you? Yes, he was.

At the time. So at the time we competed, he was faster than me, but I ended up breaking him all of his world records. So I went 44. He went 45, 35, versus fastest 400 meter. Now I went 44, 38. So was his fastest 400 meter now at 44 38 So I ran about almost a whole second. He's still in jail. I had to look it up. Yeah, I see his But for some reason he still didn't get what he was supposed to get. Yeah, he got I think it ended up with 13

I think 13 years for for culpable homicide. You think he'll run in LA? I don't think so. I think he might I mean, no, he's not been I mean, to my understanding, he's not Ben from the... What do you have to do to get Ben? Okay. Okay. Yeah. You do this a little bit of bookish, you're out. You're out of here.

Fire a four blind land in your bathroom. You're fine. Do you have a lot of friends now because of the in the pair of community, like from the Olympics and stuff? I do do you need that or do you go? Enough already. I mean, I like it. It's just like we're a community like so like we all get together and we like go to dinner Whatever and can you imagine like four dudes like we're all missing our legs right so like we hop out the car and just like

It's four dudes missing both their legs the servers like oh, this is gonna be a shitty tip like it's four dudes missing both their legs. The servers like, oh, this is gonna be a shitty tip. Yeah. These guys, that is gonna be terrible. They expect half off or something. I don't know what's going on. I said I was going blank. Yeah.

But it works out and it's just like, it's cool to like, the build that community. And that's what's honestly, that's exciting too about the LA 2028. It's gonna be the first time the Paralympic games are gonna be in LA. The games have been in LA twice, but the first time the Paralympic games are gonna be in LA. The games have been in LA twice, but the first time for Paralympics to be in LA. How great is your parking situation at the Olympic Village?

Oh, I mean, I park right in the front. It's is handicapped parking, which by the way, you don't have to pay for handicapped parking in LA. So I have a handicapped sticker. Wait, in LA, you don LA, if you have a handicap, you don't have to pay meters. You have to pay meters, you don't have to pay meters, which is like gold. That's like, that becomes every spot becomes a handicap. Right.

How come we say a handicap spot, but we don't say handicap people anymore? I know, that's so interesting, right? It's like, you say the word handicap, right, because it's like technically, it's very inappropriate to call somebody handicap. We're kind of working on the whole, the word disabled, right?

We're trying to change the word disabled because you're done. You're not doing nothing to the word disability where you're living with this and you're moving with this. And it's just like the word, you know what it comes with. But yeah, handicap spot is appropriate, but handicap person is definitely not. No, no, acceptable.

I knew that. 75 and sunny out. You go with shorts or you go with pants. 75 and sunny? Shorts. I mean, I feel like shorts are always technically pants for you. Yeah, I know, right. But my legs do not get cold.

So it can be like 30 or it can be negative 20. I can be a Minnesota and I can wear shorts and it wouldn't matter. How long have you been married? I'm engaged, I'm not married yet. Okay, are you definitely going to do it? Yes, I am. Are you gonna drag your feet? If you jump out.

I'm gonna drag my feet. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out.

If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. If you jump out. It never gets old. Where'd you meet your partner back home in Tennessee? We grew up together. That's the mistake, too. That's the mistake. But she was the girl next door. No, do that.

No, wait. You see the movies? You meet the girl in LA. Gosh, the girls in LA. They're nice. I'm a country boy from Tennessee. It was too much. You're no longer a country boy. Those days are gone.

Oh, gosh. You have a sponsorship? I do. I do have a sponsorship. Yes, the crazy thing is I do have a shoe sponsor. I'm sponsored by Nike. That's great. Yeah, yeah.

You should be sponsored as shoes. Because what better endorsement to be like, listen, if I had feet, I would want to wear Nike. These are the ones out of way, right? And so I get the question, what's your most comfortable Nike shoe that's out there in the market that you like to wear? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't feel nothing.

Okay. Yeah. Whoever pays me the most, that feels the best. By the way, you were on a game show on Netflix. You were 200 grand on a wake. Yes. Which I didn't even know was a show at first. It was me neither.

Where they just tortured you. Oh my God. Which we didn't know what the show was until we got there. They locked us in a room and took our cell phones. And then they told us what the show was. And then we had to make a decision. Well, how did you sign up to that? I just ran them stuff in the all season

when I'm not training, I like to just be anywhere and everywhere and I signed up for the show, I booked it and I freaking won it, it was pretty cool. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah. And you actually got the money and everything? I actually got the money. It was like 200 grand.

So it was like, is that more than you make running? Yes, I mean, at the time, it definitely was. It lasted me like a year's worth of LA rent. So it was pretty cool. Can you make money as a, I mean, at the time, it definitely was. It lasted me like a year's worth of L.A. rent. So it was pretty cool. Can you make money as a runner? Yeah, you can. You can. I mean, you have sponsorships, you have metal money,

you have prize money. What's metal money? So metal money is like the money that you win when you win a metal from the federations. Oh, I thought you had just pawn off the metal. Yeah, I know. I mean, the gold that comes into the metal, you take it to the pawn shop.

And whatever they get you, like, pawn stars, which is like... All right, so you get a chunk from that as well? Yeah, and of course, me too. Like, I do other stuff. I try to, you know, be versatile, just not be a runner, so I do motivational speaking. I do a little commercial acting too as well. I'm trying to get more into acting too as well.

Just like trying to be that representation just for the disabled community. Would you be like one of these people that if say there was a famous person that was being portrayed in a movie that didn't have legs, would you be like, well then you can't put an actor in it that has legs. That's not fair. I mean it's so interesting because it's so few of us, and I guess in the business or in the industry, this like missing both their legs or with the disability. So I mean, there are more calls for actors with disability. So I'm trying to like step up. So when they do need to act or miss them both their legs,

I can be, I have the, the rules and enough talent to step up into that role. Could you be in the NFL? Why can't you be in the NFL? You know, I think I can. But if I get tackled and my leg comes off, like that might not look good. It's not fly-put-ball, you keep going.

Yeah, you just like, with that cow, can I just like keep running? I'm like, it's like on the 20s. Oh shit, I'm just, what's the smell situation underneath the sock at the end of the day? Oh man, it gets bad. That's how I knew that my fiancee was the one when she like took them off and washed them for me

and just like, cause it gets atrocious. Like it's basically a watch band. Yeah, like magic. Yeah, magic, because there's no air that's getting in. So it's like all the sweat and I'm like, I would say I'm one of the most active amputees in the world. Do you swim? I cannot swim. I know. I mean, I would say I'm one of the most active amputees in the world. Do you swim? I cannot swim.

I know. I mean, I won't drown. I'm not a swimmer. I mean, swimming for exercise is the only thing on the planet worse than running for exercise. Yeah, like sweating in the pool. That sounds miserable. That sounds terrible.

You ever had a day job? I did. Yeah, yeah. My day job was selling shoes at a shoe store. I sold shoes at a shoe store. You have a word dress shoes? I do wear dress shoes every so often, but they have the heels on them.

And they're just like, they get the heels on a dress shoes just like throw me completely off. So I just wear sneakers most of the time. Is there any advantages to not having the bottom line? I would assume a disadvantage to bathtub. I assume you always slide down. Yes. So what I do is I found a little quick, like, you know, and a hack.

You got a hack, right? So you put it like either a towel or like a washcloth or something just like, you know, a towel, something down and it gets wet on your butt. Yeah, on your butt and then you sit on your butt so you don't slide. Right. And then next time that your fiance's in the shower Washington are basically wait a second. Is this your ass? It's like a like a butt print just like

What you probably do have quite a few hacks. Yeah, yeah, if you have I mean the handicap parking is just like a huge hack for me Just like I'll I'll pull up. I mean trader Trader Joe's. You like Trader Joe's? I do. They're produce is shit. Oh, I mean, but it's so good. All the snacks, you're a big drugie. Yeah. You're a big drugie. I got the munchies, I just know.

Do you eat healthy? I do eat healthy. I'm always in a couch. Well, in season, I try to stay in a couch. What season? So season is just like where I'm about to get ready to like ramp up to compete. Right, but what is the actual season?

Like say from December all the way up to all kiss September. So right now I'm in, I'm technically in all season. Do you gain weight? I do, I do gain weight. I gain like five to 10 pounds. I've been eating, if you can't tell, I've been eating good. You look, I mean, look at an athlete. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I'm like five pounds heavier right now, like five to 10 pounds heavier. And then I shred, look at an athlete. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm like, but I'm like five pounds heavy right now, like five, 10 pounds heavy. And then I shred up as we get closer to the, to like my biggest race of the year. So I was in Paris a month ago for like three weeks for, for my war championships. You like Paris? I love Paris.

Paris was, Paris was cool. Everybody was just like sitting around eating. And they used to eat so late. Yeah, the, so he for like three hours. Like each meal is like two and a half hours, which is crazy. And everybody's smoking cigarettes. Just like smoking and eating and having.

Yeah, just having New York City, if it was only four stories high. Yeah, you've seen the world. That's pretty exciting. I have. I have. I've seen the world. I've been to like,

and this all came from running, right? I mean, so I've been to like, you know, Brazil, you know, New Zealand, Czech Republic, you know, all through Europe, you know, I even went to Latvia. You ever been to China? No, I haven't been to China yet. No, I haven't been to China.

I've been to China. I'm going to go and talk to the people that have measured your height. Yeah. I got something for you. I got my yellow. I was like, you guys got it wrong. You ever run a marathon?

I hell no. Are you kidding me? Like, that is 26.2 miles. Are you kidding? No, absolutely not, I would never. I held a marathon once all on treadmills. Oh really? Uh huh.

How did that go? It was funny. I had like like 50 treadmills on the, but peer in her most of each. Was it professional runners? I put a few ringers in. I did. Like a couple of guys, like you know, Kenyans,

and like just killed it. Yeah, it took me a whole 12 minutes or something. They're sprinting the whole time, which is just ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, how is that? I just, some people just can run. I just, I get my chest wants to explode. Yeah, it's just like genetically speaking,

just like some people just like have that sprinter runner,, you know, just look or just build about them. So that's why I look at you and just know that I would destroy you. I mean, now I'm over the hill, now I'm old as shit. So it doesn't, it's easy, but all right, we'll listen. Blake, we appreciate you. We're gonna be cheering for you. And then I don't know, I just wanna see you,

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my glasses and a sweater, assuming that I'm not an athlete. People always underestimate how quick I am. I'm gonna have to teach my lesson. He said he could race me anywhere, anytime, and smoke me. Oh, okay. All right, well let's see how that go bot does on the beach. I'm not even asking for a head start today. No head start?

I mean, you do have me on the beach. I mean, this is weird to add. And besides, what's better than the feeling of sand between your toes? Yeah, that's my, it's actually my favorite. All right, let me do my drills. You do your drills. Oh, God.

Let me do my drills. Are we going all the way down there? You see the end? 50 yard dash. I talked a lot of shit. I talked a little bit too much shit. I'm wearing all white just so you know what you're racing against. Should we do this thing?

Listen, I'm ready whenever they are. No! Ah! Ah! Ah! I can't move! Ah! I could not move in the sand!

I did that with a necklace. What? Oh, go raise. Uncle! Dude! That's impressive! Don't! Beat yourself up!

No! Don't! Don't do it! Don't look at his a loss. Look at it as a milestone. Or at the end of your career, I don't know. Was there ever any doubt? I'd like to dedicate my victory to able-bodied people everywhere. I hope I've inspired you.

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All right, I'll see you guys next week. All right, here I got you a skateboarder. But I don't, this isn't for you to ride. You can give it your daughter, she could ride you. Yeah, okay. But I don't want you like going around Venice Beach. No, I can't. Pop my legs off and just like, no, I don't want it.

No, okay. Dude, thanks very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, Thanks very much. I'm a writer's all the time. Not in the sand. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy is the greatest murder mystery in American history. That's Rob Breiner. Rob called me, so would Edo Brein, and asked me what I knew about this crime. Well ask, who had the motive to assassinate a sitting president? Then we'll pull the curtain back on the cover-up. The American people need to know the truth. Listen to Who Killed JFK on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. My name is Payne Lindsay. Throughout my career, I've had the chance to travel all over the place, investigating true crimes, researching the unexplained, and I've been able to meet some of the most truly interesting people, and I've decided to sit down with them and pick their brains. We're going to talk about life, death, unsolved crimes, the supernatural, there's something here,

truly something going on, and honestly, just whatever the hell is on our minds. Wait a minute, you should be very happy with it. You want? This is Talking to Death. New episodes of Talking to Death are available now. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Crash Course, a podcast about business, political, and social disruption, and what

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