Tosh Show - My Favorite Cartoonist - Ivan Ehlers

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

Daniel speaks with humorist Ivan Ehlers about his transformation from construction worker to cartoonist featured in Mad Magazine, The New Yorker, and the Wall Street Journal. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Seattle's finest, as far as I'm concerned. Sure, you know, you talk about the Big Butt songs, but Posse on Broadway. There is no chance that I don't turn that song up, tell my kids to shut the fuck up, and we just enjoy. Knighted by the Queen. Was he? I love Sir Mix a lot. Man, what's he up to?

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Hey Daniel, I can't get ahold of her, but she is traveling, so if you want to try her cell, she should be able to pick up there. Okay, thank you very much. You're welcome. Okay, bye. You want me to try your cell?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not gonna answer. All right. So that's what an emergency gets you. Hey, it's Chrissy. Eh.

Oh, why didn't hold for a second? Okay. You see that? You say returning. That's better. That's better than an emergency. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. right now, but give me one second. Could you hold for a second? Okay. You see that? You say returning. Oh, that's better than an emergency. You think she'll jump out of whatever meeting she's in? Hey, Stacy's on.

Hi. Hey, I just wanna see if I can get you on the phone. Oh, you never called through my office. Crazy. No, but I just wanna- I'm actually on a Zoom call. You, I pick up. Oh, you're the best representation in the world. I always pick your call up. That's nice. That's nice. Not Kristi. Could never get her on a call, but you,

Stacey, you run things. All right. Hey, yeah, give my ticket counts. All right. Bye Look at that William Morris Endeavor Stacey Mark just always hustling Christy Smith rise management. Mmm. I forgot I actually had a reason to call them and I completely forgot. I was gonna ask them who their favorite political cartoonist is.

But I'm not gonna call them back because Lord knows I'm gonna get 16 phone calls the rest of the day. Everybody's in a panic. I heard you had an emergency, what's going on? Ah, that's Christy. Look at that, that's so silly. Hello?

What's happening? I was just seeing if I could get you on the phone. You can always get me on the phone. Ah, that's pretty good, but I couldn't. I couldn't get to have a, hey. I was going through security at an airport in fairness. I didn't have my phone with me. As soon as I did, I was back.

You're not like ushered through, you don't have some VIP line, you're not doing that new thing underneath? I'm not there yet. Oh, well I do, no, I don't do that. I don't, well I'm also, I'm flying back from Houston. I don't think they have that. You're in Houston?

I had that, yeah. I had to go to a memorial service this morning and I won't come back. Ha ha. You're an asshole. How can I help you? Who's your, hey, who's your favorite political cartoonist? Ha ha. You're an asshole. How can I help you? Hey, who's your favorite political cartoonist?

Are they about to be on your podcast? Yeah. Just say Ivan. Ivan, everybody knows Ivan. He's the freaking best. You see the one that was working in construction and then became the political cartoonist? Don't ruin the interview.

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midnight chats every Tuesday night on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your favorite shows. You might recognize today's guest from his doodles in Mad Magazine or The New Yorker, but not both because there's no way that those two publications have any crossover. Please welcome writer, illustrator, and humorist, Ivan Ellers. Thank you for being here, sir. Hey, thank you. What do you tell people is your profession? The most interesting thing, I think, is cartoonist. If you say humorist, you sound like a jerk.

I love calling you a humorist. Sounds more sophisticated. It sounds absolutely sophisticated. But it's hard to find something that doesn't sound super pretentious. And I do a whole lot of things. But the thing I'm most well known for would be cartooning. I'd say cartooning. Yeah What about when you're when you're going through customs and they ask what do you do?

Yeah, usually artists sometimes writer if you say artists that like it's an automatic drug check, you know They're gonna wipe you down. I do all this stuff. So anything that sounds like not like I'm a love drugs I despise saying comedian. Yeah. It's so embarrassing. Well, you're even worse because if you say I'm a comedian, you get all these people that are like, oh, tell me a joke. You know, they try to put you on the spot and say something funny. And then I try to say writer because I always think that sounds really cool. But I'm like, I can barely, you know, write me something. You grew up in San Pedro?

Mm-hmm. Which I always thought was just a made-up city from Grand Theft Auto. Is that in Grand Theft Auto? I don't know. It just sounds like Grand Theft Auto. I mean, it acts like Grand Theft Auto. There's like a lot of theft in it. Where is it exactly? So, we're LA proper.

Uh-huh. You know, so there's like the LA city, like downtown and all this. Then LA continues down the freeway. like downtown and all this, then LA continues down the freeway and then it's this little pocket at the end with where the port is. So that's why we remain LA city so LA can get all the tax dollars from the port. Okay. It's a little bit crooked, I would say. Huh. How'd you stumble into your world? So this was as Trump was leading up, like as he started to make noise to become a candidate. 2015?

2014? Yeah, 2015. And I was drawing a lot of cartoons. I was working in construction and just like on the side just drawing stuff and my now wife was like, what are you going to do with these? I said, I don't know. Booking nothing. Like these would be perfect for Mad Magazine. But I've always heard that they were a closed shop and didn't bring in too many people

But you probably didn't do any real research. You just heard that. Yeah, right. Yeah stuff that I heard when I was like 13 This way forever and so she's like just send them in I was like, ah, that's not how life works Uh-huh, but I printed out ten of them sent him in and they bought one and they're like, yeah cool that's not how life works. But I printed out 10 of them, sent them in, and they bought one. And they were like, yeah, cool. Send us any more you have. Hey, this is great. So then I just started doing a batch of cartoons. And for Matt, I would do longer articles,

and a lot of what they called the parody songs. Love those. Are you still doing fresh ones? No, nobody bought them. So I was like, I'm going to do them forever. I don't care. I still love it. And once you get to a certain point of doing like cartoon work or comedy,

I'm sure if like people don't pay you, it's like, not gonna do it. I mean, you know what's always funny is I used to think like, oh, you have to make money at this for it to, you know, I don't know, for it to mean anything. But then I realized pretty soon on that so many people do this as their pastime. It's much like a pro golfer makes a living golfing.

Billions of other people just golf for the enjoyment. Like I knew people that just would perform comedy, open mics, just because that was their, much like doing karaoke. It was something fun to do. And I mean, I never wrapped my head around that was their much like doing karaoke. It was something fun. Yeah, and I mean I never wrapped my head around that because it seemed like torture. Yeah, the karaoke part seems like more fun, but the people that just keep doing it keep doing it keep doing it like never break through it's like, ah, it bumps me out.

You know it bumps me out. But see like so many people doing cartoons because they love it so much like this is the greatest thing in the world. Like, ah, what are you doing, man? It's like, it's miserable. Like, they just never get better. And like, look at, they're still doing like weird, like funny little puns. They would work like in the 50s. And they're like, oh, man, you got to like, you know, like people that love comedy.

Yeah. And that's like, it's a lot. No, I hear you. Do you post everything like on your own sites and stuff like that? Oh, no. No? You know, a lot of people do. So in the past, you would take everything

to the New Yorker first, which is the best, the most prestigious place. And you work with them a lot? Yeah. Sold the cartoon this morning. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. We're still doing that?

I only do it when I sell. Which is less and less these days But yeah, you would take it there first and then if they would pass on it then I would take it to Mad Magazine if they would pass on it then I would take it to like five or six others and then By the end you would do like a batch of ten cartoons per week and then I was selling like 60% over the course of going down like five or six places and Whatever was left. I would hold on to and recaption it and put a different joke on it But a lot of people if they don't if they send in a batch and they don't sell

They just turn around and post it on Instagram Okay for free and I said, what are you doing? Oh gotta wait till you get paid for that I'll hold on to I sold a cartoon that was like five years old that I just kept changing the caption Is there a world where you don't even change the captioning just resubmit it and somebody like I'll take it now And we didn't take it six months ago. Oh, yeah Uh-huh absolutely and most of the cartoons that I sell like for the New Yorker they have the cartoons that they sell for print and then they have Daily cartoons which are like something happened this morning or something happened last night and you do it about something like that

so those ones you kind of have to draw that day and Make it fresh and current but the other ones I'll resubmit like every three weeks sometimes Once they're already published then do you then do you promote your the old worker? No, usually when this is a great deal like the New Yorker when they buy it They usually buy first rights, you know, so and sometimes they'll hold on to it for a while I had a cartoon come out recently. They bought like five years ago So I was just sitting there going ah, they hated it. They regretted ever buying it like they hate me Why don't they do this then it comes out and the drawing style is completely different and the joke doesn't seem that funny anymore

out and the drawing style is completely different and the joke doesn't seem that funny anymore. And they just sat on it for that long? They have, I mean, they buy about 15 a week. Who's their gatekeeper? Well, they have the main cartoon editor is Emma Allen, a very intelligent, very cool young lady. I don't envy her job. She has to get like 1500 cartoons a week and whittle it down to like oh my goodness the top hundred and then she takes the top Hundred or so to David Remnick who's the editor of the New Yorker?

And then he picks the final 15 or so that they buy per week And I get are you just thrown into the big pile of 1500 whether yeah Yeah, but other contract people that have been there longer that have sold a whole lot they get a higher rate And I think they buy more from them but if somebody were to come in and this they were just off the street and they submitted one that they liked what kind of money could they expect to make off of one publication so if you sell for print it's like $750 mm-hmm and then once it goes out then it gets licensed to a bunch of other stuff

So you could I mean some cartoons can make like thousands I always heard a story back in like the 60s and 70s this guy bought a house with one cartoon Just cuz it got like a house though. I mean it was a summer house in like a small area, but still in like a small area, but still. But that's crazy, like those days are gone. Like if I get, like I'll get weeks where you'll get like these little licensing checks and it's like 56 cents, $5.05, and then sometimes you'll get several hundred and. Do you have a union?

No, they've talked about it. It's been broached, but I think the magazine industry is in kind of sad shape. Because what I like, what our unions will do It's been broached, but I think the magazine industry is in kind of sad shape. Because what I like, what our unions will do, is all those dumb residual checks that are 10 cents, 15 cents. You can put a thing in your profile that's like, we're not going to send you a check until it totals $1,000. Oh. Or some version of that, so you don't have to get 9,000 checks for 18 cents, you know when I first

Sold to the New Yorker. Mm-hmm. They're like, do you want to do direct deposit or do you want to check? I said, oh send me a check. It's so stoked to get a check that says like the New Yorker on it And it was just like some very tame the thing that said like advanced publishing LLC this and that I was like, ah Very tame, the thing that said like advanced publishing, LLC, this and that. I was like, aw, it's not fun, can't frame that. Are you allowed to put things in that they still have the rights to or no?

So the New Yorker, they buy it first rights. So once it comes out, I think it's something like 60 to 90 days, then all rights revert back to me. So I could do anything. But like Mad Magazine buys it outright. So I couldn't put anything that they bought you You're never allowed to use it again never allowed and but but see that's part of the reason why Mad Magazine now It's they're not doing too much new material. It's front cover at back cover and

Or not a back cover, but like the fold in cover They're doing new ones of those and they're kind of colorizing old things because they still have the rights for it They don't have to pay anything else for it. Every now and then they'll do one or two pieces every six months. But they have full rights, so it's... Do they call you and say, hey, let's turn out some new stuff or no? Sometimes, yeah.

Suzy Hutchinson is the lady that's in charge. She's doing the job of 10 people to keep Mad Magazine going. Did you have to figure out all this shit on your own or did you... Oh, yeah. in charge that she's doing the job of 10 people to keep Mad Magazine going. And so. Did you have to figure out all this shit on your own? Or did you? Oh yeah. Isn't it weird, like when you have no background into it all, you're just like, all right, I'll just figure out

how to get into this world. Well, especially like. I mean really, you're just your wife that figured it out. Yeah. As it is with most things that I do. But you know, I am very envious. Like she went to art school and like learned all the business aspects of it and like how to do all these things.

And mine was just kind of like sending emails out. And once I got into it, a lot of other cartoonists are really helpful and do kind of like give you pointers and stuff like that. But everybody goes through pretty differently. Somebody described some of your stuff or read back. Is that cringe worthyworthy to you? Because there's no way they butcher it so badly. Absolutely.

Yeah, it's tough. I was trying to think of, I won't quote, but the ones that we were talking about, the concert and the ticket prices. Oh, yeah. That one's great. Quote it. What was the original cost of the ticket?

A dollar? 50 cents. 50 cents. Right. That's way better than a dollar. But man, have you ordered any tickets lately? Yeah. No, the fees are... You don't have someone do it for you? No, yeah.

I'll buy tickets secondhand and just pay through the nose, Meg. Whatever. But it really is crazy. No, it's awful. It's like, oh, cool. Great. This show's $12. You check, it's like $77. How the hell did that happen?

I mean, I have people tell me all the time that they won't come to my shows because it's done by Live Nation. And I'm like, well, it's just, they're really nice to me. What's your process? You just do text yourself? I text myself. Yeah, I text myself a lot.

I use like the notepad function. I just text. You just text it? Text it to myself, then it goes to an actual hard little notebook that I have. That's pretty smart. Then I write in there, and I'm supposed to flush those out. Only two per page. That's my...

I give myself some room to add to it. So you write two jokes per page so you can leave room to like embellish it? Right. Well, I'll actually flush it out at some point. But if I take it to stage before I flush it out and make progress live on stage, then I fucking bypass that process. Can you do that these days? Can you work stuff out on stage now? I have to. Yeah. I mean, it seems like you'd have to. It seems like it'd be way better, but with like people filming stuff and... Yeah, no, I mean...

Like it kills it. It's not helpful. Yeah. I had a joke, a previous joke, and it was so problematic in the beginning. It was about slavery and how I was kind of impressed by it. But in its infant stages, it was like, oh, on nights things like that don't work, it's bad. Oh, yes.

Please don't film this. But is this profitable? You can make a full living just off of the cartoons, or do you have to do some other things? I have to do other things. Yeah, I'd say at this point, about half of my living probably comes from cartoons and like humor writing, I would say.

And then the other half I do like graphic design, copywriting, illustration. Does New Yorker pay the best? Yeah. That's good. Yeah. For a while, uh, Playboy paid better, but RIP.

Yeah. Cause you know, Hugh Hefner really like loved cartoons. He cared very much. Yeah, he really did. Cartoons and boobs. Not a bad combination. But yeah, it's, it's harder and harder, you really did. Cartoons and boobs. Not a bad combination. But yeah, it's harder and harder, you know. Every day more and more people try to get into cartoons.

There's a lot of people that would have in the past just been hobbyists. And, oh, I could do that. Sure, let's do it. Like, computers make it a whole lot easier and AI art is making it easier. And like, you could always spot it from 10 miles away. You can. If someone did, oh yeah. I mean on the most part, maybe someone gets really slick with it

and can fool me. I lost like 40% of my illustration work to AI already. Oh. Which is ridiculous. But you see like the drawings are really bad that they put out. And I know they're gonna be better, but the fact of the matter is a lot of these people

don't care, like the producers that are buying it don't care. They can't tell the difference like only other artists look at it and go, oh that looks shit. But like a lot of people other people look at it and go, huh? What do you care more about for your on your work? The joke or the art? I'd say the joke is more important. I like that to be better but I feel miserable if the drawing's not good.

Do you secretly want Trump to win? No. If, you know, here's the thing. If I, whenever I have to do cartoons about him, I have to stare at his face for like an hour at a time while I'm doing this damn drawing and it's such like staring into the face of hell for all these little crummy details. But was he good for business for you? Oh, he was great for business, yeah.

It's fantastic. Yeah, I mean, say what you want about Trump. I mean, one of the greatest political minds we've ever had. Yeah, I mean, he figured it out. He figured out what he can get away with and just like kept doing it. What do you mean, he can get away with anything? Is that what he figured out? Everyone else is like, oh, you can't do that.

He's like, the fuck you can't. Watch this. No, I don't have any problem with Trump. None whatsoever. Just anyone that believes a thing he says, I just find just utterly fucking annoying. Do you think Donald Trump's ever seen any of your cartoons? Oh, I know that he's seen my cartoons.

Yeah. That's probably the only thing he reads. So I know because a friend of a friend worked in the White House, and part of the duties of like, when the president is a sitting president, they have people print out everything on the day that is concerning them, that has their name in it,

that has image or anything. But for like bigger venues like Mad Magazine or New Yorker, they would have to print it out and show it to him and be like, here's this, this came out today, this came out today. And he would just sit there going, so that filled me with a little thrill. Yeah, that's great. Do you have anything in chamber for the reelection? Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff that didn't sell last time around.

Do you draw everything by hand? I used to. I was really like anti technology for a while. Then I got into it and it's so much easier and so much faster. So usually like if I do a batch, I'll do it all digitally. And then if someone buys it, then I'll do it by hand. So that way you have an original to sell. Do all of yours visually have a style that's like, it's recognizable that this

is your work? Like, are you handcuffed by that or can you branch out that's like, it's recognizable, this is your work, are you handcuffed by that, or can you branch out and be like, no, I'm gonna make this one look completely different? That is a wonderful question, and it's something I've been struggling with for a long time. I think that I have no style. A lot of people, like.

Doesn't sound good. Well, I would say that I don't have a distinct style. Okay. And I was an illustrator for a while, I would take a lot of illustration gigs, and a lot of people would say that I don't have a distinct style. And I was an illustrator for a while. I would take a lot of illustration gigs and a lot of people would say, like, I want this to be done in this style. I want this to be done in that style. So I've always been able to kind of draw in most styles.

And so I feel like for a long time I would do that with cartoons, like whatever the joke needed most. Like this has to be a very simple drawing for this joke or this one needs to be a complex drawing with like great perspective and all that. So I would switch it up for the as the need demanded. As everything you're like, oh, I've got I've written one for that. Do you associate everything with your comics at this point? Yeah, there is a lot of stuff like if anything happens, I'll sit down and be like, hey, hey, hey, hey,

write down a little note and be like, that'll be perfect. We have a few cartoonists who we all talk to each other and like share batches and things. And it'll always be like, oh, I did that one. I did that one. It was a very similar one. You saw mine, I did that. How quick are you to pounce on people?

Like, I find comedy police so annoying. Yeah, never. They're like, so and so dude. I'm like, okay. Yeah, never. So and so dude, I'm like, okay. Yeah, never. I mean, there's some stuff that if like, clearly they saw it and remembered it but don't know that they did it,

it's like, oh man, you can't do that exact joke. But most of the time, you know, there's subtle differences. Is there people in your biz that you're like, they're just known for being blatant? Oh yeah. Uh-huh. I shall name no names. No, sure. But they're just known for being blatant. Oh yeah. Uh-huh. I shall name no names. No, sure.

But they're out there. A lot of these cartoonists have been passed on for like generations. They've owned their, whatever their strip is. Yeah. When somebody does something problematic or says something horrible and you know they're gonna be ousted,

do you like immediately like contact them and like try to get their space? Is that something? Well, you're talking about like newspaper comics. Yes. So usually not. Like that's typically owned by like syndicates. And if someone- So there's no breaking into that world?

It's very difficult. I mean that goes hand in hand with newspapers. So the more that the newspapers are going away, the less viable it is to make a living. Because before if you would do like a comic strip, that would be syndicated and you wouldn't do it for one newspaper, you would try to get it into 300 newspapers or 500 newspapers. So that's where you make money and nowadays.

It's just. If a newspaper cost a dollar, how much trickle down money can there be? Well that's the point is like, and A, if you bought a newspaper lately, very expensive. What do they cost? What do they cost?

I wrote a very humorous article in the Wall Street Journal recently. I have no idea what a newspaper costs. Unless you're gonna say you have no idea what a newspaper is. No, that's closed. So I had a piece in the Wall Street Journal, and so I went to go buy it.

It was $6. Oh no. And the LA Times is $4. I would have never guessed $6 for the Wall Street Journal and so I went to go buy it. It was $6. Oh no. And the LA Times is $4. I would have never guessed $6 for the Wall Street Journal. But $4, like I remember it was a quarter for the longest time. I remember opening up the... Taking seven of them?

Well no, I would just like go behind the person and try to do a quick grab. Oh, the reach around. Oh, the famous reach around. Is there women in your business? Oh, the reach around. Oh, the famous reach around. Is there women in your business? Oh, yeah. Is there women? No, that was the question.

Yeah, yeah. On any cartoonist, I don't, I don't, I'm, Yeah, especially. You could tell me half of them are, but I don't know that. You know, on the newspaper side, I don't think there's that many, but on the New Yorker cartoons, there's more and more. So I think, I would say maybe like 40%.

Okay. I just guessed it was a nerdy guy thing at first. Historically it was. Yes. Have you drawn forever? Or are you a kid that just was an artist? Yeah, it was a real problem I think. A lot of times growing up, I would just draw on everything.

Oh, you ruined like like, the house? Not the house so much, but like schoolwork and everything like that. I wouldn't stop drawing, like, where I was supposed to take notes and everything. All your folders, everything was covered? Oh, yeah. You're that kid.

Yeah. I don't let my kids do a lot of art projects in my house. And I think that's, I know that that's a bad parenting thing. But I just, art, I never enjoyed doing it. So I'm like, oh, maybe, maybe you, maybe I can force that on you to not enjoy it. Well, you don't like him doing it because you don't want him to like thrash up your house.

Yes. Yeah. And, or I don't want, if he says, oh, let's get the clay out. I'm like, fuck no. Kinetic sand. I don't even know what the fuck that is. Kinetic sand and like slime.

Yes. It's like they fall in the Kinetic sand and like slime. Yes. Like they fall in the same, it's like slime with glitter. So many markers and so many dry erase boards. None of it works. Very rarely good art comes out of it too. It's like a bunch of garbage, isn't it? Agreed. So did you never have a good eye as a kid?

Like you couldn't figure it out, you just had no interest or both? Both. Yeah. No interest. Like as soon as I pick up a pen eye as a kid. Like you couldn't figure it out. You just had no interest or both. Both. No interest. Like as soon as I pick up a pen, it's bad. I don't know how to draw. Well, at least you didn't like it. It would be miserable if you loved it

and you couldn't draw at all. Cause I've seen a lot of people like this. Where'd you go to school? You went to school to become, what did you say, pre-law? It was, I went as a pre-law major. I went to Loyola Marymount University And cost some money costs a lot of money and at the time with the second you get out of here You're gonna be making so much money. I was like, you're right. I am aren't I

Fucking wealthy itself. Yeah, I went both my brothers my older brother my younger brother They both work in real estate and like law adjacent stuff like kind of advisory. I was like, I'll do that Easy enough. Then I decided I didn't want to pay for any more school ever again. Did you get into law school? Where'd you end up? Yeah, I took the LSAT and all this and that and got into Loyola Law School and it was like 16 grand a year.

And I said, no, thank you. I was like when people quit, but I also appreciate people that were like, you know what, I wasn't smart enough to do it, but that wasn't the case. I think I find law very interesting. I would always like hearing my brother talk to clients and stuff like that and overhearing like the little nuances and things. But I don't think that I would have enjoyed it very much. It's 16 grand a year back then.

I'm going to say you're 42. Did you know that? No. Oh, man. Am I right? Yeah, that's some great, that's some great maths. Ah. Yeah, well done.

You're like a close-up magician. Where do you stand on magic? You ever watch a close-up magic might be the most impressive thing in the world. I used to hate magic. Of course. It was so annoying to me. And I was at a pizza place in Lomita. This one guy that walked in just saw a crowd and was like, that's my cue.

And started doing close-up magic. I was like, this asshole, what the hell are you doing, man? But he was doing such- They have no shame. No shame at all. He was like, six people? That's the crowd. That's me.

And he started doing these things. And I was like, so impressive. That's a crowd. That's me. And he started doing these things and I was like, so impressive. I couldn't agree with you more. It's so dumb and it's so mind blowing. Eddie, what's the name of that close up magician that used to be Johnny Carson's favorite that I just baffled by what he can do? I'm seeing Brian Gillis is like the one that- I think it's Brian Gillis. He had so good, he had to be like such an asshole to get good at it.

Yeah. But man, like shit on it a lot, but when you see it, you go... No, like he'll do this thing where he just asks like six questions and then he'll be, by the way, your dog when you were six years old that died was named Cindy. And you're just like, what the fuck did you just do? Yeah. I don't know. Man, makes me uncomfortable.

If there's a dry spell and you're like, oh, I'm sold anything in a bit, are you like, I should have paid more attention in law school? Oh yeah, like twice a day, I think. You know, for a long time, for a few years after I quit the tire job, like my main point of working there for so long was until I could pay off my student loans. So that took me 15 years to do. And then I kind of went all in on art. What's your wife do? Is she an artist now too?

Yeah, I met her when she was going to art school. She's a similar multi-hyphenate. She's a model for a long time. Oh. Yeah, you know, cartoonists always get the models. Pan model. But no, she's a model for a long time. She's a photographer and a painter. That's what she did for the longest time was photograph and paint.

But now she's doing a costume design and styling. Does she take photos of you? Oh, no. Okay. There's nothing worse than getting a photograph. I hate, like, I don't. How do you feel about being styled? Do you like, like, wearing clothes I hate... Like, I don't... How do you feel about being styled? Do you like, like, wearing clothes?

Oh, clothes I don't care. I just... I have a relationship with my stylist that's very aggressive. I scream at her and say, I hate everything. And she's like, just wear it. I'm like, fine. Yeah. But that's where I'm at.

I have like three outfits that look okay on me. And everything else I look like a dope. Do you skate? I used to, poorly. You have taken a fall as an adult? I tore my Achilles tendon playing soccer. And that stymied any efforts to like look at a skateboard or do anything. How did it feel when it happened? Like a gunshot? Did you sound? Did you hear it?

When it first happened, it didn't tear all the way. And it just felt like my foot sunk into the ground. And it just, it was a little, like, a dull thud. And it really felt like my, like someone kicked me, and my foot was dipping. And I turned around with my fist clenched, and I was like, what the fuck did that? And there was nobody there. And I was like, what? And they're like, what are you doing?

I was like, I don't know. And I took a step and my foot started going like that. Oh, your body's falling apart. Man, it was gnarly. I went home and that's where I tore it. I thought it was just a cramp. So I was pulling it out of a stretcher. Talking about misdiagnosed.

Oh, God. I was pulling it, pulling it, pulling it, and then it snapped. And that was like, it sounded like baaah. And worst pain I've ever felt. Yeah. And then it was fine. And I was like, okay, this is cool.

Walked on it for a month. Just like... Really? No? I looked like a zombie. Everybody I knew was like, what the hell is wrong with you? Go to the doctor. I was like, it's fine. It doesn't hurt.

And yeah, then when I eventually went... What happens if you just never treat it? Would that... You just have a gap and basically it doesn't connect. So you can't do a lot with your foot. So you just have to like walk. Like look like a pimp kind of. But eventually I got it fixed.

I needed a nine centimeter cadaver tendon put in there. You're half ghost. Do you believe in ghosts, Ivan? Ghost agnostic. I'd like to. Sure, we'd all like to. Be pretty cool. It'd be amazing. Best day ever.

The day I see a ghost is the day I change my life completely. I'm like, alright. Because you're like well against them, right? You think it's foolish to... No, I feel like that's too... I'm fine, alright, that was... Cause you're like well against them, right? You're like, you think it's foolish to... No, I don't, I feel like that's too... I'm fine with other people believing them. I don't believe them cause it's like, yeah, it's not real. Yeah. Have you ever drawn a cartoon so funny that you had to take a break just because you couldn't stop laughing?

Oh yeah. All the time. Wait till you see what I brought you. Let me see what you brought me. Yeah. So this is a special gift. Mm-hmm. I get to, oh, a reveal. To bespoke. Mm-hmm. This is, look at this.

God damn it. Do you believe in ghosts? How pretty is that? He's a ghost, you see. In fairness, I find people explaining comedy to be very funny I always have It's really good. By the way. I love it. You're a difficult guy to draw. You're a good-looking fella You have no like major null formations on your face You don't have a big bushy mustache like easy as hell to draw Trump, but you're more difficult. What are some of your favorite comics growing up?

I was like the far side. You ever read that? Of course. Calvin and Hobbes, peanuts. Why did Calvin and Hobbes transition and just peeing on different truck emblems? Pissing on Ford. Why Ford? Wasn't it?

I've always said I'd rather push a Ford than drive a Chevy. I do have the answer for that question. What is it? I've always said I'd rather push a Ford than drive a Chevy. Yeah, I do have the answer for that question. What is it? Is he always refused to let his stuff be licensed for like stickers or plush dolls or anything like that. And so because he didn't do it, they filled in that void. You know, so people started making their own stickers and then then they started making like Calvin praying stickers. And then, you know, the next natural step is Calvin pissing on things.

So they started doing that and they tried to fight it, but it was just dudes like printing it. So they've never profited off of these peeing things? Yeah, no, it's all just other people that figured out people wanted Calvin stuff under any circumstances. I give everybody a gift on the show, just something from my house that I'm getting rid of. But this is what I thought you might need.

My old shredder. Hey, thank you. Will you, do you shred stuff? Do you have problematic stuff that could be laying around your house if things, if people found? That's a recipe to ask people to break into my house. No, don't do that.

Well, thank you very much. Oh, that thing's, look at it, dirty. There's still stuff in there. You piece that together, I guarantee there's jokes that I've written a few bad words on. A friend of mine used to live with Jack Handy, and they said that after he moved out, that they would find little note cards all over the house

of all the jokes that he had started to write, and he would leave them around. There's like hundreds of them. I'm so embarrassed of exactly what you're saying. Yeah. Oh, there's nothing that would upset me more than knowing somebody went through my journals of jokes and was like, this is fucking garbage.

I'm like, it's the delivery. You have to understand, I was gonna deliver it different. Talk shit about some of the newspaper comic strips. You know, there's some absolute trash comic strips. So like, in the morning I read the newspaper, and I read it on my computer, and my wife is sitting like 20 feet over there in the living room, and she just hears me going, Ugh! Why is this funny? Ugh! This is a joke? What the hell is this?

And like, just talk trash about 85% of the ones in the newspaper. What do you hate most in the newspaper? I don't know the names of these ones. Like there's a few, like I read Jumpstart. That's a good one. What about Heathcliff? You like Heathcliff?

Heathcliff is fantastic. Have you been reading that recently? No, of course I haven't read Heathcliff recently. So I don't know the exact story, but it seems like the guy who did Heathcliff originally Died or stopped doing it and it seems like his nephew or someone like that is doing it I don't know if he's trying to trash the Trash the project or if he's just trying to be like avant-garde or if he's just really weird

But every joke is like ha ha ha I love meat and Heathcliff will be wearing like a helmet that says meat. And then someone will be like, hey, that dude loves meat. Like, that's the joke. But it's like, but he'll do like a variation of that for like three weeks in a row. Where it's like, oh man, that dude loves meat. And they're like, what's he doing? He's thinking about meat. Like, is he lazy?

Is he avant-garde? Is he just like fucking with everybody? It is funny when these families like take over the previous generations work and then they're like, well, they would never sell this to television. And now somebody's like, what was the show like? Was it Archie? Yeah, yeah. Archie and Jughead. Yeah, they made whatever that city is that they live in. Yeah, what's that show called? Riverdale. Right, like the new owners were like, you know what, what's that show called? Riverdale. The new owners were like, you know what? We're going to make this young and hip. Fuck it.

Yeah, well when you're pitching shows, if you have like a known IP, even if it's something like Archie, you're like, we're looking at it. It's grim and gritty. It's dark. Everybody knows Archie, but not like this. By the way, Soul, he did it. How is Andy Kapp't still beating his wife I think he is like it's still he's still like a drunk guy that like screams out It's like ah shut up, but he hits him with like a bedpan It's crazy that it's like you know it seems like that would have died out in like 2024 But they're like hi you still got it

would have died out in the 80s. 2024. But they're like, ah, you still got it. Still the Dilbert guy. Everybody hates him. You know, even before he started doing like this stuff, I know a lot of comic people that do newspaper stuff like on the same syndicate. And everyone said he's just like the biggest dickhead on the planet.

Maybe not the biggest dickhead. Sure. Whatever. But he's still but he's still getting print work or no Probably in some like weird. Okay, hard, right? Conservative newspapers that are known for being funny How did you end up working with Childish Gambino that was a buddy of mine from dodgeball that I used to play in a dodgeball league with a real dodgeball league from dodgeball that I used to play in a dodgeball league with a real dodgeball. Yeah. It was, it was a lot of fun.

There was a dodgeball league in like West Hollywood and it was a whole bunch of artists and writers and just like, like straight traditional rules. Yeah. Grab a ball and try to hit each other. Yeah. And like, I think everybody was pretty drunk through most of the games. Are you good at dodgeball? I was pretty good.

Could you dodge a wrench? Yeah, I could 15 years later. He hit me up and he was like, hey Do you know anyone that does cartoons for the New Yorker? And I was like, yeah, dude, I do and he's like, do you really? Donald Glover was looking for he wanted to do something with like a character like do something in a New Yorker style They were putting together a poster We ended up doing something where whenever they would have a concert tour, they would do like a little pop-up shop and make it look like it was a bootleg shirt being sold

at the venue. And it was through him, so they would put it together and make it up, but it would look... Cleaning up. Yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. People always try... But they were cool.

They were so expensive. They were going for like three or four hundred dollars. Like they were selling them for like twenty and people were turning around because it was... Because he could only get it at that concert. I've been told to do stuff like this in my past. I'm always like, no, no, that sounds horrible. I can make you a cool shirt. Ah, god damn it.

How'd you meet Al Franken? Dude hates Ted Cruz. Yeah, he does. I sent him a letter. And I was like hey man I think Al Franken is so smart and so funny like I love him like he's one of the few people that I'd be like oh man like you go be president like I mean should never we didn't talk about that but I think he regrets his decision absolutely he really should have just held his ground and been like what? I didn't know there was a world of

fuck you's coming up. Yeah. People would have forgotten about it in eight minutes. Yeah. And yeah, I sent him a letter and said, basically, like, I can help with some posters, anything you want. And did a Zoom and he mostly wanted to talk about cartoons. And he's like, I got some great ideas for some cartoons for the New Yorker. So I was like, yeah, let's talk about like some politics stuff.

Like you want to do this? He's like, no, don't want to talk about that at all. But he did have many funny stories about Ted Cruz. I've never was, I was never a big SNL fan, but God, I always respected the fact about myself. I was like, I just loved Al Franken. Yeah. I was like, this guy is the funniest person ever. He's so sharp.

God, he's funny. And a very good artist. He draws Ted Cruz very well. He really does. I think he sells cups with a drawing he did of Ted Cruz when they were sitting in the chambers. And he was just sitting there like, you fucking asshole. Like drawing him.

So stupid. You ever done caricatures at a bar mitzvah? Oh yeah. You have? Yeah. Oh, that was a joke question. You know, I mean not at a bar mitzvah, but I used to do like indie comics. Like to get people to come around,

I would leave the cover blank. And if you'd be walking by, I'd be like, hey, let me draw ya, let me draw ya. And I could spit them out pretty fast. I'm out of practice now, but I used to be pretty good Get a lot of upset people you never worked at like Knott's Berry Farms or anything. No My my biggest fallback. I always figured if everything failed or get into cartooning uh-huh and Just how I got into cartooning

But if everything the best fallback, but if everything including cartooning fails, then it's like Venice Beach, just like drawing caricatures. Oh, but Venice Beach today versus Venice Beach like even 10 years ago, it's just way more scary and fun now. Is it? Oh, that's good. I haven't been down to Venice Beach. It's sad and depressing. I avoid Venice Beach and Hollywood and most places.

Ivan, thank you for being here. I appreciate it and I look forward to laughing and reading all of your future work. Thank you so much. Thank you. It was a real pleasure. From KT Studios, the number one podcast, The Idaho Massacre is back. The new developments in the University of Idaho murder case. It was an unimaginable crime.

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the hit TV show, Brickleberry, you guys remember that? Three seasons, three and a half, back when Comedy Central was a force, not the pathetic shambles that it currently lays in. What's going on over there? I thought when they brought back Jon Stewart, I thought, sure enough, there's going to be a phone call in the next day or two. Hey, we want to apologize to you and we really want to bring Brickleberry back. We've got some new dates to plug. We're going to be at the Schumach Casino. That'll be fun.

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You know that I originally came up with get her done, right? Yeah. I was hanging out with Dan Whitney back in West Palm Beach. And I was like, he was saying something funny about Tom Ryan. And I said, I said, get her down. He goes, oh, I'm going to use that. I said, don't you dare. That'd be funny if that was true.

If I was the original get her done. I should just start doing that. Yeah, that'd be funny. You know, comics always get so, if you ever steal material, oh my goodness. People love to talk about it and comics love to talk about it. But it'd be funny if I just started stealing that. And Dan's like, hey, what are you doing, man?

Dan Whitney's Larry the Cable Guy. He calls me, he's like, you can't just start saying get or done. I'm like, I'm doing it. I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it constantly. You have stopped me. Yeah, you can't stop me from saying get her done. I bet you he doesn't even have that website locked up.

What do you think, Carl? You like my new catchphrase? Save up. All of them, take them all. I'm gonna take them all, what? Here's your sign. No, that's just all those guys. That's funny.

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