Tosh Show - My Favorite Clown - Gilly

Episode Date: May 5, 2026

Daniel is joined by Guilford Adams aka Gilly the Clown, veteran of over 4,000 parties and co-director of the documentary American Clown.  Join our Patreon for exclusive content: http://patreon.com/toshshow

When a kid wants a balloon animal, it's too complicated. How do you trick them into asking for a giraffe or a dog instead? Well, sometimes I say I'm all out. They say, can I have this? I'm not sorry, man, I'm all out of those. Tosh Show. Tosh Show for show. Hey guys, it's Tosh Showtime.

At the wheel. Daniel Tosh. At the other wheel. Not really is it not a wheel. I'm feeding coal into the machine, the fire. The engine. Keep it going. You're talking about steam?

We're steam engineing. We're paddle boats. Oh, that's right. Coal's having a big comeback. Cole's huge. Hold, it's not how I wanted to start, but I don't care. You know, nobody cares what celebrities think. We all know that's not true.

Of course you care what celebrities think. That's why there's advertising. That's why they spend millions of dollars, you know, using celebrities to hawk products because it does work. Right. Because it's why Trump is president because he was a celebrity. And dumb people are like, yay, I like that guy. Whatever. That's not the argument I want to have. All right.

Nothing annoys me more than hearing about health, physical health, or spirituality, anything to do with religion when it's coming from a former addict. I can't. I just can't. I tune out. It's the worst messenger. Don't tell me what I need to do to be healthy. when you used to do heroin. Like, I just don't care. Oh, you found God? Great. I've known about God my whole life.

Okay. I didn't spiral to the depths of hell with my heroin problem first, though. Those people, that's my least favorite. And if you really care about your message, you should know that some people, when they hear you talk, go, oh, shut the fuck up. I'm not get it. You fixed yourself. Congratulations.

That's great. Let's tone down the aggressive. This is what we need to do. Do they think people that are on heroin are listening to them? Because that's who the message would be for, right? No, it's just anybody that doesn't believe in God or anybody that doesn't believe in how they should eat or fuel their body. They should do this. It's RFK.

You were a junkie. If you've ever done crazy amounts of drugs and now you're telling me how to live, I'm not going to listen to you. I don't want your advice. I don't care about your perspective. I'm happy that you're no longer doing the things that would ultimately kill you. Right. But I don't need you to tell me what's going to happen to my soul after I leave this earth. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like I'm shitting on people that have turned their lives around.

I just don't want them to try to preach to me. Right. And I'm telling you this because it's a waste of time. Because you're making me want to eat more sugar. I'm going to do it because you're making me want to get more processed food. You're making me want to go to Taco Bell by telling me that this is what I need to do every morning when I wake up. I need to squeeze a lemon into my warm water and gargle it for 45 seconds. shut up. I'm going to wake up. I'm going to have cinnamon toast crunch with my kid,

okay, after my wife leaves the room and go about my day like someone that wasn't, you know, on the brink of driving my car off Mole Holland because I was on an eight ball. I don't even, do you say you're on an eight ball? Well, I mean, they're two different drugs, but yeah, sure. You can, yeah. Whatever. Just all of it. Just leave me a little. alone. I'd rather listen to the, what's my call? The guy's knocking on my door, little boys in the suits with the bikes. The church of Jesus and Latter-day Saints. Church of Jesus Christ. And is it Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints? How do you say it?

Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Of. Two of. Oh, wow. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Well, there is their problems. It's confusing. It's not good.

You know what? Don't knock on my door either. Everybody trying to make your lives. I can make your life better. You listen to me. I'm barely a celebrity anymore. At the height of my fame, I was barely a celebrity. So you can listen to me.

I'm going to give you advice. Have fun. Don't work too hard. Don't try to have all the answers to everything. Get a couple good friends, hang out with them. A lot. There you go. That's it.

There you go. Welcome. There's my advice. What about heroin? Don't do heroin. Okay. Don't do heroin. Don't go to church if there's good games on.

Right. But if you want to go to church because it's like a community thing and there's, you know, you like the upbeat nature of it all great. But you don't have to, you don't shove it down other people's throats if they don't agree with you. I'm not mad at people that are recovering. addicts. I just don't want them to be the messenger for the good book or for my physical health. Seems fair. That's all. My daughter just had her birthday, a party, which was a huge hit. We have a couple rules in our family about birthdays. You celebrate them on your birthday.

You don't get, oh, we're going to do it this Saturday. No, you're not. Not our fault. Your birthday fell on a Monday this year. Deal with it. Monday, Monday's Monday. Monday's, the party. Okay? That's rule one. We celebrate your birthday on your birthday. Second rule we have about birthdays is I don't get to plan them. My wife's like, no, no, I'll take care of this. And she does. And she plans this, you know, elaborate themed birthday party for my daughter. And when I say elaborate, you know, she rents out a play place that does birthday parties hourly. They churn them out. It's, it's, It's no big cost. And she's like, my daughter wants a princess theme.

Well, you know, my wife is on this three months before the birthday. Now we're a week out from my daughter's birthday. Guess what? She hates princesses. I'm like, you plant it too soon. She loves mermaids. She only loves mermaids. And my daughter doesn't know what goes into planted a birthday.

So now we're putting tails on princesses. I just got, you know, all the decorations. I'm taking the icing on the cake. I'm smearing a tail on it. What I should have done is gone with a clown because young or old, everyone loves a clown. Enjoy. My guest today is one of the greatest working clowns in Los Angeles.

He can do magic, balloon animals, juggle, but most impressive skill might be his ability to put on his makeup and under 30 minutes in his car. Please welcome Eddie's dream guest Gilleford, aka Gilly the clown. Thanks. Thanks for having me here. My pleasure.

This is great. I mean, I'm going to be so happy today. Oh, Eddie loves a clown. Eddie's rocking the dimples, man. He got a dimple dude. I got a clown dimples. My grandma used to say that. What did she say now?

Yeah. Nothing now. Oh. You're silent, huh? Yeah. Is it talking anywhere? Are you estranged? She's very silent.

Do you believe in ghosts? Fuck no. It's a huge note from Gilly. With profanity. All right. clowning around here, what are your thoughts on the war in Iran? I got, I don't know. Too many to count. Okay. Where are you originally from?

Texas originally. I was born in Louisiana, though, in New Orleans, and then I moved to Houston when I was a kid. Then I went to college in Austin, Tennessee, and then Austin, and then I moved out to L.A. in 2000 or so. How did you get into clowning? By the way, is that the proper term? Get into clowning. Clowning. Yeah. You can say clowning?

Get into being a clown or how'd you become a clown? People say that. Nobody says clowning. Clowning. I mean, I don't know. I'm not going to say it. You can say whatever you want. Okay.

Well, how'd you become a clown? You know, I did it a little bit in my, when I was in junior high and I kind of got into it. I was a part of the Methodist Church. And so they taught us some magic skills and that sort of stuff. At the Methodist Church, they teach magic? Jesus was a magician to a lot of people. A lot of people. He just didn't charge.

That was kind of his whole thing. But, you know, they teach a lot of the Methodist Church would teach about caring clowns and that sort of stuff. So it would be people that would go outreach but spread the gospel. They still do that. There's a lot of caring clowns out there. So that's why there was probably. Got it. But I did that.

And then I, you know, and I remember making my own clown shoes. I had old Mike Ear Jordans and taping them up with duct tape and big foam fronts. So I remember doing all that. And I did a couple shows. I did one show for a nurse. home for a bunch of old people that are probably with her grandma now. And then after that, you know, I got into high school and sports and all that studied girls and kind of forgot about it.

But then when I became an actor, I transitioned from bringing a springboard diver in college in high school into acting. Well, let's talk about the springboard diving for just a moment. Did you get a scholarship for this? I was junior, I did Junior Olympics, but I was a walk on because I wanted to Division 1. But you went to Tennessee, University of Tennessee, in Knoxville. Yeah.

Great experience, had fun. I loved it, man. I loved it. Springboard. What was your dive of choice? What was like this was my best dive? I was better the higher I went up. So 10 meter was kind of my thing.

That was my jam. 10 meter, but that's not a springboard. That's platform. Okay. That's the tallest. Well, now it's taller because they do Red Bull Cliff diving and stuff. I don't care about that. Platform is what you would compete in.

And then the higher I went, I just felt like I could add something called rip entries. I could rip pretty well. Uh-huh. You just tighten up and you just rip. the water and it's like, and it sucks away. It's almost like a vacuum. He's just like, beautiful.

And you're like, whoa, that's awesome. Like when you throw a rock and you throw a rock and it goes to the world like, dude, no splash, man. I never do that with rocks. I'm a skipper. I like to skip rocks. Oh, okay, yeah. Anyway. You can do that.

People call you the skipper. No, no one does. Hey, Skip. No one calls me this guy. Did you ever, do you start on your hands? Do you do that one from the 10 meter? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You did all the day. I did like inward three and a half was kind of my big dive. Good. Back three and a half I kind of chickened out. It was like, that's a lot of somersaults. And then I was scared. Did you ever just straight? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, it's horrible. How do you recover? How do you get back up there? Well, you go right away. You just do it right away. Just to get it out of your way, you know? I mean, I imagine the same as a comic, right?

You bomb. You're like, I got to go back on stage right away because that sucks. Yeah, but you belly flopper hit your back from 10 meters. It's usually your balls, yeah. And you swim around a little bit like, oh, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And then, you know, you come back up. You're like, okay, let's do that again.

What about synchronized? Do you ever do synchronized diving? That wasn't a thing then. I'm old, you know, that wasn't a thing. They would do, like, clown diving a little bit. That's another place really good. Whoa, whoa, what's clown diving? You know, it's like where guys would do kind of, they land on their butt on the end of the board.

Yes. Flip and a half. Okay. Kind of like in Back to School, Roddy Dangerfield doing the triple indie. Uh-huh. That was kind of, yeah. Kind of like clown diving, like doing all these reverses. And they flip on the board.

So a lot of guys could flip on. on the board do a backflip and land back on the board. Could you do that? I never did that. You never, did you try it? No, that seemed scary. I always got scared of, like, after, like, two or three big bounces. Like, I needed to go.

A double bounce, yeah. Double bounce and stuff gets really scary. Did you, like, I, I'm sorry to focus so much on diving for a second, but did you, it's funny because you're in a clown. Did you always have to roll that big wheel to get it back for the perfect spring? Yeah, I was a five. I'm like a five or a six. Some guys are like, the numbers mean.

Well, it was like, one is like no back. and then two, three, four, and then nine is like Lucy Goosey, you know, like, those guys are like, like there was one meet. I drove, I dove behind Greg Luganis. It was at SMU in Texas, and you just saw him. This was like after the Olympics and just the way he would hurdle from that board and just, I mean, it was like, he was like a god, you know, and just could ride the board. He would go to nine.

You dove after him after his famous one where he hit the back of his head? Well, not after that died, no. You were the next diver? I wasn't. That is amazing. What a story. Yeah, it was a great story. Flag it, John.

John, you got it? You got it, John. Good. He followed Greg Luganis after the infamous head. Wasn't it him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be right back. You've got weight loss goals, but hitting them is another story.

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you know, like they would like, you know, bang chicks and no disrespect. I just, I wasn't that way. I wasn't built that way. You weren't built that way to bang chicks? Well, no, I mean, I guess I was, but I was, I was more prudish at 19 or 20. You know, like I just wasn't, I wasn't just trying to hook up at bars and like, they do things like they would drink and then they would go like we'd walk back toward dorms and they'd jump on people's cars on the hoods and so people would come out drinking their coffee i imagine like dude

some dude just jumped on my hood in my car last night and let the big dent i thought like that's crazy so that i was like this and this is not my tribe and so i did a play called royal hunt of the sun as a peter schoffer played at equest and stuff and it was with this argentinian acting group called diablo mundo you know they barely spoke english but they would out of the sun After I got cast in the play doing a monologue from a monologue book, and I would go to this bar or whatever afterwards, and they would take it over. And I thought, this is more my tribe of people, these people, you know.

And so I kind of made the transition from I quit diving, and I went into acting. Okay. Now, from traditional acting to a full circle childhood clown experience. It came back because I didn't have any acting. Like, I didn't do plays in high school. I didn't do any of that stuff. But I was physical.

I could move. I could do flips. I could do somersaults. Like everybody else was like, you know, they'd done musicals. So they had like pencil, stick arms and stuff. Like, so I got into Shakespeare and I got into doing all the servants. And when I got into college and really studied, I got a BFA in acting or drama production, whatever they call it. You know, I started like, oh, well, I'm good at this stuff.

I can like tumble. People can grab me and throw me and I can do a flip on stage and backflips and stuff. And so the clowning just came natural. I was like, who else does this? And it was Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. And, you know, it was like, oh. these guys are awesome. And then, you know, back in the day, like Jack Tripper on Three's Company.

As a kid, I watched that all the time. And to me, that was like my gateway of like, well, he works as an actor. And, well, maybe I can just be like that. Big physical comedy type things. Is this before the move to L.A. or no? No, it was right when that move happened. So 2000. You met your wife after one of your band shows.

Yeah. What was your role in the band? I was played guitar, kind of frontman. But there's other frontman. Okay. It's gigantic. How long were you in this band? Five years, seven years.

I don't even know. Was that started in Texas? No, that was out here. Okay. And it became kind of a bands that broke up. We all just started like playing a happy hour and then that kept kind of going for like 10 years almost. When did she find out you were also a clown?

Or is she finding out right now? You think she'll watch this? Probably not. You know, that night, actually, she was kind of staring at me a little long and she's kind of looking at me and I was looking at her, and I was like, oh, I think she's looking at me. And so I went and talked to her, and she's like, well, what do you do? And so I led with my best, I was like, well, I'm an actor.

And she was like, oh, uh, uh. And she, I think she even said, you're not a musician only, are you? And I was like, no, no. And then I said, I'm an actor. And she's like, I'm also a clown. And I saw her eyes go brink. I was like, oh, that's good. That's, she likes that.

Most people don't like that. But it's good, especially most girls. And, you know, like before when I was single, if I brought a girl home and she saw I have clown art everywhere and if she saw that and she's like ooh it'd be like right away like this is going to go what all is clown art just just clowns I have clowns I have pictures of clowns velvet paintings clowns it's just full of clowns still to this day or no yeah you haven't dialed I have a clown house well it's all it's all in the back house now thank you thank you it's on the back house she's relegated it to a back house yeah yeah that's acceptable

You didn't do anything clownish at your wedding, did you? No, no, it's just legit. Tradition. I had been to clown at a wedding before, though, for my buddy Matt Morgan. I was the only clown is one of the groomsmen. That's visually, it's beautiful. Yeah, I can see that being pretty, especially if it was like a really traditional wedding. It was.

It was. And then there was, there was. It was. It was like one clown. I like it. I like it. I'm not mad at it. You are the chief executive.

executive clown at Los Angeles Clown Company. First off, congratulations. Oh, thanks. And how many clowns do you employ? Just me. Okay. But I got the room to, I got the room to grow. There's four types of clowns, white face, a goose, character, and hobo tramp.

Yeah, that's correct. What kind are you? I'm a white face, but I have kind of like an goose status. So whiteface typically are like the number one, and then a goose would be kind of like, you know, sort of like number two for lack of a better, you know, and then okay, Seinfeld, right? Seinfeld was the number one.

You know, he's a little bit weird and he's particular and he's like, you know, Jerry, but he's still break up with the girl because of whatever, it's insane reason. George Constanza is like a two. Like George and, and really Julia Dreyfus, they're kind of two. So they're kind of like, they're batty, they're crazy, but then you can actually talk and there is some.

sense, Kramer is just flat on three. Like he just, he's all over the place. And so that's kind of like, that's how I would kind of characterize a lot of those clowns. Maybe the tramp is like a three, you know, the tramp could kind of move around a little bit. And that was made popular by Weary Willie, Emmett Kelly, back in the day around the Depression with Ringling Brothers. And the specialty clown can also move around the status. But the August is usually two. And then the white face typically is sometimes the boss clown, the number one. Los Angeles clown company. Yeah.

What is this? So I was A Clowns for Hire back in the early 2000s because you had to be in the phone book, right? Because you had to, and you had to be like A. I know. I know. A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, clown. Yeah. Yeah.

So the guy, he had a database called Clowns for Hire. And I wanted to get on it, but I was Clowns for Hire. And he was like, well, you can't be clowns for hire. That's my database. I was like, well, what should he be? He's like, well, you're in Los Angeles, right? And I was like, yeah. He's like, wants to be Los Angeles clown.

And I was like, well, Oh, great idea. And I looked at the domain name. This is pre the gold rush of domain names. And I wasn't taken. And then some, and he might listen to this, so I don't want to say, but there was another guy that got L.A. clown. And I didn't think to get L.A. clown because that's L.A. clown.

And then I was like, well, you know what? Now I have now. And it feels like we're kind of budding up against each other, right? I'm Los Angeles clown. He's L.A. clown. That's not good. So I was like, I'm going to make the full Los Angeles clown company. So I just started using that name, you know.

And it looks like a bigger enterprise. How's his company doing? Not very good. Not very good. Eddie, he early domain names started squatting on everything. Oh, really? Just thought it was hysterical. I mean, he's got everything.

He's got everything. Big pole tight hole. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, he has that. Hotdog diet.com. Pirate flu. No one's taking that one. Pirate flu.

Hobo mouth. Hobo mouth. Yeah, it's a disease you get from sharing harmonicas. It's what he does all day. It was fun. It was expensive. often do you say how often do you have to renew all these no i just said i had to stop it's too it's expensive right then they keep up charging you so stop it all right here we go how does a clown pick their

name you know i always answered the phone is gill or gilly so it just became easy with gilly and i'll be completely honest i've always wanted a nickname no one ever gave me a nickname i remember i was being in the boy scouts and there was one point where like they were talking about these silver turtles which is like a little baked potato and you put vegetables and stuff in it and they were saying how i made a one as a patrol leader and then someone saw their kid was like hey we should call him turtle and i was like that's a i love that nickname sort of thing you know turtle turtle and then they were like no you're not we're not going to call any turtle never stuck so i always kind of wanted a nickname this is that's that's that's a shame turtle i always wanted the knowledge of boy scouts without actually ever going to the

boy scouts i really wish i would have learned some knots you're not good at him what um what um You know, knots are great, man. It's tough. I'm an Eagle Scout. I went all the way. Good for you. I'm an Eagle Scout, yeah. I did.

I'm not mad at that either. What's your favorite gag to do? I'll do it. I'll do it. Here we go. Oh, no. We're going to have a race. Eddie, I need you to join in because here we go.

I'm going to put this up here. And after I roll this end up, now I'm going to roll up this other end just like this. Now, by a show of hands, who thinks the big end is going to win the race? Yeah. I'm going to say, yeah, me. A big one? Who thinks the small one is going to win?

Me. who doesn't care one way or the other completely empathetic. Oh, maybe the sound guys are. Here we go. So I'm going to count down from three down to two, down to one. You said big and you said small. Let's see we go. I'm going to count down. Count with me. We go three, two, one. Ready? Three, two, one.

It's a tie. It's a tie, you guys. It's a tie. We knew it was a tie because it's around his neck. What percentage of your clown business is children versus other?

acting and then adult. Between my clown business, what percentage is children and adult? I would say 80, 20. Okay. You know? And then as far as being an actor, I mean, it's just not all acting, just clown acting, like straight clown acting. Oh, maybe.

So if I did 80, 20, maybe clown acting would be 10% of that, you know, so maybe 70, 2010. Where's the age range for kids? What's the sweet spot for clown work with kids? Three to seven. But it depends, right? I can do a two-year-old, and I can do a nine-year-old, but it depends, like, how, you know, sheltered the kids are. You know, like, sometimes a nine-year-old doesn't get out a lot or he comes from a lower-income

family, whatever, you know, like he's not on screens a bunch. He could be awesome and love a clown. Okay. You know, but if I'm doing calabasasas, that kid could be an asshole. You know, he wants, he wants my kid and my son. Yeah. My son is seven. Yeah.

In his yearbook, there's, they ask all the kids on this one page. It asks the kids what they want to be when they get older. And, you know, you get all these dicks here. Yeah. A producer. Yeah. What's seven-year-old says they want to be a producer? You know, a congresswoman.

Okay, I like it. I'm not mad at them. My son, what's his answer? Clown. Really? Yep. I love it. Yeah.

That's awesome. My son's like clown. Only one that has the most ridiculous answer. My son wants to be a clown. He's a day, I said, I'm interviewing a clown today. He's like, he's like, dad, does he know how to juggle? I said, yes, he knows how to juggle. I go, will you film him juggling?

And I said, well, I can show you a video of him juggling. And then he goes, no, no, I want it from your phone so that I know that it's like he really did it. It's not AI'd. This is what the next generation's got to think about. He's worried about it. He doesn't want, you know, phony juggling videos. Yeah. All right.

You juggle. Yeah. Balloon animals? Yeah, I do balloon animals. Face paint? Yeah, sure. What's your least favorite of those? My least developed skill would be face painting because it's, you know, I'm a guy and then I'm drawn on a kid's face.

And I used to be. I mean, I like the way you said that. I'm a guy and I'm painting on kids' faces. It just feels like you kind of want distance. You know, as a man, I want distance with the kids. I get you. I respect that. Perfect clown.

I don't. You can't do certain things. Like a female clown can hold the hand of a kid and kind of like, la la la, la. Like, it looks weird when a guy does it. You know, I can't. If I'm underneath the parish. shoot with a kid. They're like, dude, get out. Like, it just, it looks weird.

I mean, I respect them so much. This is what you want to hear from a clown. You don't want clowns on a parachute with your children. When a kid wants a balloon animal, it's too complicated. How do you trick them into asking for a giraffe or a dog instead? Well, sometimes I say I'm all

out. They say, can I have this? I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm all out of those. Let me do a balloon. What's a good animal to say? I'll do a little doggy here. And how did you learn this? I, you know, I remembered doing balloons when I was younger. And I just kind of picked it up a little bit more.

So here's a little dog right here. It's a beautiful dog. A little cute dog here. You know, but I try to learn things all the time. A lot of times you'll do events. So a lot of the events I do will be like balloons for three hours. They'll like, oh, we want a strolling juggler for three hours. And I typically do them if it's enough money because it's a chance to practice.

You know, like, I'm just going to practice. And I get paid to practice. How long have you know? known how to juggle. Long enough that I should be way better than I am. What's the most you can juggle? I can do four a little bit, four balls, but it goes to crap pretty quickly. You know, but I do pens, and I can do fire, and then I can do rings and stuff.

And he interjects some object that's extremely heavy, like a bowling ball into it? A little bit. I can do three random objects. I mean, over the years, as a performer, I did, like, I did, like, an anti-smoking campaign where I juggled water, and, you know, people ask you to juggle weird stuff. Can you ride a unicycle? I can't. Not very well.

Have you tried? Yes. And I've even gotten hired before and I said I could ride a unicycle and then I couldn't and they were all disappointed. There's self-balancing unicycles now. Are there? Like the one-wheel thing technology? I had a self-balance in unicycle.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. I can see that like the little, yeah, the little one-wheel. It takes a little bit of skill on the unicycle. Do you have a one-wheel? No. Okay.

But I do have, I do have an e-bike. That's okay. Hold on. That's made. That's made by the one-wheel people. Uh-huh. So you can press a button, and it'll self-balance into wheelie mode. And you can just ride a wheelie around.

That's cheating. That's cheating. That's not good. I know, it's not good. It's dumb. Whatever. What do you say to people that are terrified of clowns? Stop it.

You know, I think there is a, they call it chlorophobia, I believe, is the term. But I'm from Texas, so I can barely talk. I'm from Florida. I'm worse. I think there are people that are terrified. but I think the vast majority of people, it's a way of building community. So I think when people say they dislike clowns,

I think it's just a way of like feeling like engendered by other people, you know? When the reality is, it's like, I mean, clowns can be scary. If I drove here and I'm parking the bottom of a garage, I'm getting out of my car. I'm like the fourth level and there's a clown standing in the corner with the bullet. And I am a clown. I'd be like, what the fuck, dude?

That's scary. You know, you need to be like lit or something or like in an open area. Like that's like terrifying. So I think, you know, and that's what people are picturing. When I came here and Eddie took super long to get me, I was outside just kind of standing out there, kind of wait. It's like just, you know, as my dad is in my dick of my hand, just kind of waiting around.

I wasn't literally like that, but just kind of standing there. And people are like, oh, you know, they're kind of looking at me. It's a weird spot. But I'm out in the open. People can escape. If I walk to apartment building and like I, the elevator opens, they're like, geez. Dude, it's like, I know. Yeah.

I know. You're not expecting that, are you? You know? So I have some sympathy for that. It's not good. Your documentary made it seem like clown who's a bit of a dying art. What do you think the future of the clown world is? So, yeah, I started this doc, American Clown, about 10 years ago.

And it was because I was working as an assistant to Ronald and that job was ending. The Field Ronald program, they basically fired us. And they, and it happened. right at the in southern california if you lived here there was like a clowns scare and then clowns were coming from overseas and they were going to like do a whole much of horrible stuff it was this story that the news was pushing and they would call me as a company they'd hey will you come and talk to us about how there's this crazy clown scares like dude what you are fueling this and why am i going to go there and have a and for free by the way and face and be like you're

taking our jobs. It kind of pissed me off. So that was why I did the dock. And I know that's kind of a long answer to what you're saying. But I feel like 10 years later, as all this dust kind of settles, that there's like, you know, it's just like a little weed would grow through the sidewalk or something. There's still life here. And I think there's kind of a resurgence of clowning with a lot of people because they haven't seen it. And they're like, where all the clowns go, you know? In fact, when I did American clown, I would tell people, like you don't see clowns anymore other than the horror movies you don't see them at the circus ringling doesn't have them anymore you don't see them at McDonald's you just don't see them at all and i think there's a

place there's kind of like there's an emptiness there for a lot of people like yeah that was that was kind of fun you know what and also in the la sort of comedy scenes because it's not groundings or upright citizens brigade a lot of these people do clowning it's kind of this is another possible venue like natalie palomitas and Chad Damiani and all these guys are doing it at the Elision Theater. And so I think there's kind of like a burgeoning sort of like scene kind of happening. It's not only here, it's happening in New York, too. So I think in a lot of ways that maybe it's kind of coming back. How would a live show or venue that just features clowns work?

So it's not typical white face. It's buffoonery. It's failing in public. It's like being vulnerable. It's usually involves nudity. And like, you know, so there's like a lot of like, It's almost like theater of the absurd, you know, that it kind of, and I, and there's a, I think there's a market for it, you know, I go to and I do like the occasional 30 year old birthday at a bar or whatever. I met with nothing but goodwill and love from those people, you know, they're just like, oh, love clowns.

I don't, you know, it's just crazy. When like, you know, my generation or the 40 something, there's always like, oh, I'm scared of clowns or I don't like them. when I think that's because of poltergeist and because of it and because of these things that they just haven't kind of moved past. Have you ever done a bachelorette party? I have actually.

Well, did I? Or was a bachelor party? I think I'd like to make this happen too. Bachelor at party? Yes, we've got to get like a good bachelorette party or it's just absurd. I did go to Jumbus Clown Room recently. Last year,

one of the little side hustles I have A woman that I work with, her daughter works at Jumbage Clown Room. And I've been there before, but never as a clown. And so, and she gave me a bunch of money because Scarlett, the woman that, that, the young lady that works there, she was putting out like a great cookbook. Like wine, wine, me, dine me, 69 me, I think is the name of the book. Beautiful. Beautiful. And it's a great name. And it's like really squatting on that title. And then so she gave me. bunch of money just to go and make kind of a fool of myself and it was it was awesome in fact i'm

going to go for like my next decade birthday i'm going to get a bunch of my friends and i'm going to like just spend like 10 000 you have to work at a golf tournament no okay golf turn where did that come from why why a golf tournament i don't know because of the clothes or something just rich people on a golf course and then have a clown just fucking mocking the whole thing great i would love to do that but i haven't done that yet i think i think there should visually seems pretty pretty much They haven't had it. They haven't had it. They haven't had it.

Not since Dorf on golf, have they had anything? You know? Remember Dorf on golf? I don't remember. I watched it recently. I'm kidding me? This is so hysterical. Have you ever been pulled over by the cops in full?

In full clown? No, I haven't been pulled over in full clown. Do you think it would be a dream? I think it would be okay. I think you'd get out of the ticket. You think? Probably. What cop's going to be a dick and write it?

I mean, who knows? I was terrified when I got my clown car wrapped in all these clown stickers, and I was drinking a lot in those days and partying a lot. Wait, wait, what is your clown car? It's like an HHR. So it's like a PT cruiser looking car, but then it's got stickers all over. I thought maybe it was going to be like a tiny,

tiny car. No, I don't know. I mean, they do have those. Sure. But I was terrified that I'd get Polk's up driving at night and I'd be like, you know, probably not drive. I shouldn't be driving. He was before Uber. This is back in the day when like... Back when you were encouraged to just get home. Yeah, you got to get home, dude. There's no car

car service for you. But I was terrified of getting like, like, just somebody taking a video of me, like, getting handcuffed behind my car. So I had to, like, get rid of that. I had to, like, just only do that car during the day. Is there a code of conduct with clowns? Oh, yeah, for sure. Who enforces it? Or is it just like...

Other clowns. Okay. Other clowns could frown upon it. Right now, we don't have the great ambassadors, you know, not the best ambassadors for clowning. We have Art the Terrorfire and we have Pennywise. Well, those guys are like stone cold killers. Yeah. Right?

at this point. And if anything, Krusty, perfect example. Krusty used to be kind of on the outer fringes of what was acceptable as a clown. But now Krusty, he's in a good area. People love Krusty. Move the goalposts. We've moved the golf post. Because other crimes are so horrible. Like they murdered children. Like Krusty looks good. You know, he's got some family issues. The dad's a rabbi or whatever, you know. He smokes in costume. Not the best thing, but child murders.

Right. The Terrifier. I haven't watched one of those movies. Do you watch that stuff? No, I don't like it. Yeah, that's not my thing. I know David Dorton, who he was in the documentary that I did, American Clown. Nice guy.

Really nice guy. I think there's room at the table for everybody. Some people love the horror clowns. Not my thing. Okay. Not my thing. I'm not a bit. I like the It, but I don't like it once it goes to the supernatural.

Yeah, I'm not. That part of it, I lose interest. I liked it when he was just creepy and hanging. But then once I found out that, like, It was lost. I don't need to see the monster. I just, I like, I like the inference, right? I like, that's what's scary.

Blair Witch Project is good because you never see it. You just see this person standing in the corner. I have still yet to watch that movie. Oh, it's good. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to watch shaky cameras. You're more of a static camera guy. I love static cameras.

Lock off the show. I've always said it. Lock it off. Fuck Mary Kill. Ronald McDonald, Bozo, Krusty the Clown. I'm going to kill Bozo. I'm going to fuck Ronald, and then I'm going to marry Krusty. Because I just, I love Krusty.

I love everything about Krusty. Okay. You know, yeah. Wait, well, what happened to Ronald in that one? I fucked him. Okay. Comics hang out with other comics. Do clowns hang out with other clowns?

Yeah, but not many. Do you have a lot of clown friends? I have some that are really good friends. I got my buddy Laffeypants. He's a very good friend of mine. You know what? I know a lot of comics, too. And some comics are like easy to be.

around. And some comics are pretty intolerable, right? Same thing goes for clowns. Where does Brendan Walsh fall on that spectrum? He's actually very easy to be around. He's very easy to be around. Because he's funny, but he's not like, and then he'll get angry. He's not always working on material. You know, like he can like have a conversation. Sure, there's an off button. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I, I want someone to just be like, like, okay, we're clocking out. Now we can just talk, you know? And so some clowns are like that. I used to say that I never trusted a clown that didn't smoke pot. And I kind of still stand by that.

Talk about your dark days with old laughy pants. Oh, lackey pants. I've had some dark stuff. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's true. I've done some things that I'm not particularly proud of. You used to party hard? Yeah, yeah. I've never had sexed in clown face, you know.

I have snorted a line in clown face before, you know, taking a bong hit. I mean, I had a party, you know, like, hey, man. You want to like a show. But not like a seven-year-old's birthday party. No, no, no, no. I've been really hung over before. I remember one party.

God, it's like a nightmare. And I got no sleep at all. I mean, it was 15 years ago, 20 years ago. Before I got married, before I had kids, I had no sleep at all because I was partying all night. And I tried to lay down, but it just wasn't going to happen. And I remember, like, going out to the balloons. And I was trying to pump up the balloons. And my hands are shaking so bad.

And these kids were just looking at my. my hands. And I was looking at sleep. This is horrible. But see, here's something I will say. I'm Gen X. And like, I made, there was one time I didn't make a party, but I made a bunch of parties hung over with no sleep. And so, listen, I was there. I might have smelled like booze, but I made that party. And I know that's a silly thing to be proud about, but I am. I'm proud. Like, I didn't, I didn't fall through. Okay. So you're, you're proud of almost perfect street. Almost perfect street, yeah, sure, you know. We'll be right back.

Have you ever been hired for any work? Not sexual per se, but, you know, like, oh, we want you to come over and just sit on pies instead of throw them. I have not. I have not as a clown. But I wouldn't necessarily say no. Okay, and just out of curiosity. If anyone is actually listening. What would you charge something like this?

at least my hourly rate plus dry cleaning what are some of the stranger gigs you get asked to do well sometimes i'll get asked to do like really deplorable stuff and then i usually think it's like a radio station or something kind of like you know trying to punk me or something because they'll like i want you to scare my kid or and i'm like i don't want to do that i have i i did have you ever scared someone i have for money like they hired you to scare something yeah there was a guy that it was a director of a popular show And he was like, hey, I'm out of town. I'm in Canada shooting because that's where they shoot everything now, apparently. And so I'm out of, you know, but my son is his birthday, and I want you to scare him when he gets someone from school. I was like, eh, he loves clowns. He loves him. He loves Pennywise.

I'm like, okay. I mean, I just want them to be in on the joke. Right. He's going to love. Everyone loves Pennywise until he comes for you. Yeah, until he's there. And so I did it. I went in and the mom was really nice.

And then the little sister was all excited. How old is the scare victim? 12. Okay. Ten or 12. Seems like me. You know. Somebody sat in his room for longer than I thought it would.

It was kind of a little weird because you're just like, I'm in this little kid's room. With these balloons, just holding them, kind of looking at them. And he eventually kind of came in and, you know, oh, God! And then he kind of came back after, you know, and he was like, oh. Did you scream or do anything? You just stayed still in the corner? Yeah, I just stayed still. And we walked in.

I was like, hello. And then he was like, ah! I was once hired to do a singing telegram as a clown. And when I walked into the house, the guy looked like he was developmentally delayed, the dude. And when I got into the room, he was like, okay, now in a second, I'm going to have you jump around and start singing this song.

And it was like an old McDonald, but he had rewritten the lyrics to it. And it was about like you when he touched me. Like, it was a little salacious. I didn't think anything of it at the time. But then as I'm doing it, I'm like, what's so? And I'm seeing the environment. And it was like, I don't know.

This is not, this feels weird. I'm like, you know what? I'm getting $200. I'm just going to do this. And so when I jumped out, there was a pug. It was like a little pug that was in like a high chair, you know. And then there was a bunch of pugs all over, like all over, you know. And I was like, hey.

And then, and I started kind of singing. But I was like, this pug is going on. This pug was not having it. And the pug was like, oh, you know, and he was like, I think you just need to pet him. Maybe get closer to him. And so I got close. close and the pug was, I was like, I just don't think he, and I did it. He's like, do a magic trick for it.

And I was like, oh, my God, dude. And so I did it. And then he was like, oh, oh. And he said, oh, I got one more thing. And I was like, what? He's like, have you ever been on TV? He's like, what do you tell him? He's like, you're on animal pranksters.

And I was like, oh, dude. And then all these doors opened and all these grips came out. Like, hey, man, good job. Pretty good, you know. I love that until the end. I know, I wanted it to be. be just some fucked up world but but I was like I just need to call somebody because this guy this is not safe for all these dogs it was it was bad and they were peeing and pooping in the

ground and it was disgusting nothing bothers me I I hate you say some people don't like clowns I not I hate hidden camera prank shows more than anything I was not a fan of you I'm still not you shouldn't assign the waiver well I did what's the guy a gal ratio in the clown world. In L.A., in the people that I know, I would say it definitely favors men. But on TikTok and stuff, there's a crazy burgeoning community of, like, clowns

that I would say prime, most of them are female. Okay. I think there's a lot of interesting things happening, whether they're practicing clowns or whether they're fetish clowns or whether they're like, there's like these different things. There's like bouncy girl. clown and she's kind of like, you know, voluptuous, but she's into clowning and Grimaldi and all these old sort of things. And she's created this. I'm sure a lot of guys are sliding into her DMs.

I was like, I love you, you know, but she's, she's passionate about clowning. What about the ethnicity? Is it primarily white? No, there's, it's actually very much, uh, uh, I have a friend Tina who is Filipino. I have a friend Carlos Ragus, who's African American, but, you know, there are a lot of white dudes. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know if it was like a primarily a white male thing. No, no, not at all. And I think there's, and that's just a mare. I mean, you have clowns in the Mexican culture and clowns in South America.

I mean, they're all overplace. And black clowns do white face. They did it as Ronald. There was some black clowns that did Ronald and white face. I think that's fine. Everybody that's on the show gets a gift. Oh. You just get stuff from my house.

Oh. It's just used stuff that I don't. Now, you have twins. Do you have twin boys? Do you always have to buy them too? They'll do different things. They want different things, right? Like, one loves Darth Vader.

one loves Boba Fett. They pick a lane. Do they like to dress up? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Any of them like the Ghostbusters? Oh, yeah. Okay, got this.

Oh, my God. It's a real pack here. This will... You're giving this to me? Yeah, yeah. This is stupid. This will actually get used more than I... than I...

My wife's going to want. That's fine. It's not in my house anymore, so that's... This is a... Oh, my God. We get the whole uniform there. All right. All right.

Great. Okay. Take that off my desk. Now, do you, please, get it off my desk, get it off my desk. I know what you're doing. You do music classes with kids? Yeah. I used to have music class hosted at my house for kids.

Yeah, like a little mom like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that's done. But all these parents just leave their instruments. Yeah, yeah. So I wanted to give you all the instruments so you'd have them for other future gigs with kids so that they would have them. Okay?

You're going to love it. Fill up that PT cruiser. Oh, we're going to fill it up. Oh. Like all the instruments. Oh, dude, yeah. This is a good gift for me. I like this.

It's going to be good. It's going to be stuck for the kids. Oh, my God. We'll love it. It's great. Whatever the kids need. This thing, you put it around their neck. I think they hit the sides of it or something. I don't know.

We got the parachute. Don't get under it with the kids if you're in the clown outfit. Yeah, now we can't do that. But look, I got all of them. I got every instrument in the world in here. Oh, my God. Oh, I love it. This is a good one.

I can't stop giving you this stuff. He just goes on forever and ever. Oh, we're not even close to it. What are all these? You can juggle these. Oh, my God. You can do, I don't know what you do with these things. These are silks, yeah, we can use these.

Yeah, you can use these silks. These are great. Look at these. Oh, that's adorable. This one's nice. Yeah, look at that. Oh, triangle. I actually need a triangle.

Dude, you just got a triangle. Dude, I just, I need, I need a triangle. That's not the right, that's not the right thing to hit the triangle with. No, it's not. Doing a thing on Sunday. There's a harmonica. In Santa Monica for an orchestra, and I have a bit with a triangle. Well, now you got a tiny triangle.

This is great. We gotta get all this off my desk. Oh, yeah, I guess. Got you a hat too, because I felt like this, this hat doesn't, it seems like it's a hat that a clown would wear. So you brought all this stuff, and then on the way out, you're like, one more thing. That's crazy. It actually fits me. This would fit me. Do you have a big head?

Yeah, I do. I have a huge head. I have, do you really? Huge. So when you're buying, you do a seven and three-fourths. If I have my hair's longer, I go up to eight. You do not? Yes, I know.

Do you even go up to eight? They go to eight. I'm right at the top of the thing, seven and three-fourths. Look at us. Can you still take a fall? Are you getting too old for falling around? I can't in the moment. Do you just, do you force yourself to keep doing it?

I think the adrenaline gets gone and you do, you just like, ah, just do it. What about a flip? You ever, you know? No, I couldn't do that anymore. You don't go upside down anymore. Well, I could do that in the water on a board, but I can't do it on the ground. There's no way. What was the last time you jumped off a diving board?

Like a real diving board of the spring. 10 years ago. Do you see a diving board and get a little bit of an urge? I saw one yesterday, a little bit. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool to know that like if I were your kids and like I knew dad could really jump off of it.

They'd never see me do it. I don't get that at all. My kids have seen anything that I can do impressive. They saw it like week one of their life. That's great. I'm not hiding anything. Do your kids get into the clown or do they like, hey, gilly, knock it off. I need dad.

Both. They do like the fact I'm a clown, but everyone hates my jokes. My wife, my kids, everyone hates it. And if I do jokes with other, like, if I see twins, you know, I'm always like, oh, you guys, are you guys, you guys could almost be brothers. And they're always like, well, we are. We're twins. I know, but you could almost be brothers.

And my kids are just like groaning the whole time. Like, Dad, stop it with the jokes. Like I'm legit embarrassing them, you know? But I can't stop. I'm like, just let me play with these kids for a little bit. You want one of your kids to become a clown? I hope not. But I wouldn't care.

I would want them to do whatever they want to do. Have you used them as in a magic trick yet? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I have. I have. And honest, maybe clowning is AI. Maybe, I don't know, how are you going to AI go into a party, you know?

And I guess you could or you could get like some virtual performer. AI is coming for everybody. And you know what I can't wait for it to come for? What? Mothers. Oh. That's, that's, knock them off their high horse. Yeah, let's, you know.

Tell me about it. Tell me. Oh. Now we're preaching. Preach. Listen, you're, you're doing, you're doing the Lord's work. Thank you for your service. Thank you.

Thanks for having me. My pleasure. I really appreciate it. I want to thank Guilford for bringing Gilly on the show. We got to give Guilford a proper nickname. What do you think? Oh, silly gilly. Silly.

We're not going to give him Turtle. Turtle reminds me of the 1980s movie North Shore. There was a character Turtle. Then Entourage had a character. So Turtles off the table. But we got to give Guilford a nickname. Guilford's such a good name. Guilford.

Guilford. Guilford Adams. Sounds like a president. Well, let's give him a nickname. Bob. No, come on. Something cool. Springy.

What the fuck? Something cool? He's a springboard, dude. Springy. No, I don't like that, Dylan. That's stupid. Guillotine. The guillotine.

The guillotine is that's the one. No, I don't like it. Chop your head off? That's an awful nickname. I mean, I like where Dylan's head was at with the diving board. I just don't know what it is. Flash. No splash.

No splash. Splash. Tiny splash. Plunge. Plunge. Plunge. Is plunge? Is plunge coming?

Yeah, plunge will be there. Plunge. I think it works. And it works well with a clown because when you think of a clown. They drink from a plunger. You always think blunge. Listen, we're going to work on your nickname. Maybe somebody in the comments section will come up with the perfect nickname for him.

That's who's going to get it. That would be good. We give him a great nickname and then hopefully throw some work his way too. Yeah. I would like to hire Gilly the Clown for things that I'm supposed to attend. PTA meetings, stuff like that. Yeah, perfect. Just a straight stand in.

You know, you don't be funny. Hire him to be your house manager. he's just in your house yeah doing nonsense all day like i'm talking to people showing up for like appointments yeah he's just got to meet my plumber when he shows up and just yeah it's real bad over this way that'd be delightful i could hang out with him way more than i could hang out with most comics yeah i could see that for sure what if that became my podcast my niche podcast we do because a lot of people that do podcasts, some of them have multiple podcasts.

What if I have a second podcast where I only talk to clowns? Pretty good. Clowning around. Oh, man. I like it. Okay, let's do some of our plugs. Patreon.com slash toss show.

Maybe on Patreon, that's where I do my interviews with clowns. Clown town. That'd be pretty good. My first farewell tour, the first leg of it, rave reviews, I don't know if you picked up the local Evansville paper, but gushing.

Now, where are we off to next, though, Ed? We've got to do some all kinds of stuff in the northeast. Right. I can't wait to get to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. Baltimore, Bethlehem, Hershey, Wilkesbury. I don't know where else we're going to be. D.C.?

A bunch of D.C. A bunch of shows in U.S. State, New York. Right. Connecticut. Atlantic City? Atlantic City? Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

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