Tosh Show - My Favorite One-Eyed Special Ed Teacher - Ms Sunshine
Episode Date: December 9, 2025Daniel learns what motivates special education teacher Ms Sunshine to embrace her disability and inspire students....
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Are you great at staring contests?
I mean, if I can, like, cover the one that works, yeah.
Oh, that's a...
But otherwise, no, this baby's sensitive.
What's your vision?
2020 out of the one.
Your working night is 2020?
Yeah, she's perfect.
Okay.
That's good.
Yeah.
Tosh Show.
It's a Tosh show.
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Welcome to Tosh.
Daniel Tosh, Eddie Gosling.
What's up, bud?
Daddy-in-law.
He's not here, but he just got back with us.
We went to Vegas this past weekend.
Do you have a good time, Eddie?
I did always have a good time.
Man, I learned something about.
my father-in-law this weekend. I love when you learn something new. I never think it's possible
to learn something so new every time I hang out with him. But every time I hang out with him,
I'm kind of giddy because I know eventually something's going to happen that I'm just
not going to be prepared for. And sure enough, we were watching a college football game
sitting on a couch. He's leaning forward. And I go, huh, his skin is
is really pale in the back.
And then I'm like, no, that's not his skin.
That's his undershirt.
Uh-huh.
Okay?
But why I thought it was his skin was because it was so taught.
Right.
It wasn't like a shirt.
It was so taught.
It wasn't his outer shirt.
It was his undershirt.
Uh-huh.
And it was tucked into his underwear.
And I go, oh, no.
This must have been an accident.
And he goes, what are you doing?
And I'm like holding them forward.
I'm getting my phone to take a photo of this.
And then he starts yelling at me.
He goes, I'm not giving you consent.
I'm like, what?
I'm not assaulting you.
I'm just going to get a photo of it and talk about it on the show.
He goes, you can't show a photo of me without my consent.
I go, yes, I can.
It's the person who takes the photo that has to give the agreement.
And it's my phone.
And he goes, but you can't just take a photo.
I go, yes, I can't.
You're in my place.
Yeah.
I can do whatever I want in my place.
You licensed that photo.
Anyway, that was my hotel room.
So I'm leaning them forward.
He's resisting and saying stop it.
And you're not going to talk about it.
I go, well, then you know, if you're embarrassed, then you know that this isn't something to do.
He's like, I always tuck my t-shirt into my underwear.
I go, no, you tuck your shirt into your pants, your undershirt in your pants, and your outer shirt is out.
That's nice.
Then you don't ever.
But now I'm just seeing underwear.
and a shirt that smells like ass.
Fecal matters on that.
I don't...
All bankers do this?
No, I don't know what it is.
All right.
That's goofy.
Goofy is a good word.
There's no reason to tuck your undershirt into your underwear.
None.
I thought he was pranking me at first.
Yeah, so the rest of the trip, whenever I came out of my room,
I had my t-shirt tucked into my underwear,
and I had my underwear pulled up as high as I could.
Man, you're the worst person to do something embarrassing around.
I don't think he thought it was embarrassing until I started wrestling him to take a photo of.
Yeah, and he's just like, oh, no.
Ed, I got to thank you.
Thank me, okay.
I watched that series you recommended, Chad Powers.
Yeah, Chad Powers.
Okay, delightful.
So funny.
Chad Power, six episodes, so I thought that was a good thing for me to wrap my head around.
I was kind of confused why they would go with Powers
when there's already Kenny Powers.
I was too, absolutely.
And it's kind of the same like,
like, Embreddy, dumb type of character
that's being played.
Powers, right.
So I thought Powers was a bold move to do that.
But man, there was a couple cold opens in that show
that were just hysterical.
I mean, like crying laughing.
I was crying.
That, we're the, we're the, uh, the fly got under his makeup.
And the cop, or the guy that was dropping off the stuff.
Are you a fly person?
You're a fly man.
You're a fly man?
I was just tickled.
I was tickled at that.
Have you guys seen it?
I haven't seen it.
It's worth it.
It's six episodes, but it's funny.
There's some real fun.
And Eddie gave me the tip.
Make sure you put the subtitles on because he's going to do a dumb water boy voice.
Did you come from the woods?
You know it's funny about that show too
So you watch a show
And then like who are these people
The daughter of it
I find out
Oh my goodness
She's really good in this
She's really funny
She's married to Mark Sanchez
Oh great
So she's got this new show
She's seen as this comedic actor
And she's having a moment
And then her dipshit husband
Pulls off this fucking
colossal fuck up for
whatever a cocaine deal gone bad and stabbing and they just had twins apparently now i know mark
sanchise's original baby mama i know that that girl she's been you know in our friend groups for years
that's that's just that's just fun to watch a show and then find out who the people are and then like
oh no look what they're going through right now i just thought they were hysterical but there's a line where
she says, did you just come from the woods?
And it got me so good because her reaction was so honest.
Like, what the fuck?
Did you just walk from the woods?
He did just walk in from, I was, oh, there's some scenes in that show that are funny.
The one thing that you always have to remember when you're watching a comedy like Chad Powers
is, oh yeah, he really had to sit in makeup for three to six hours.
hours every day to do that.
Yep.
And I'm like, well, then it's not worth it.
Well, what if they paid you, you know, all the money in the world and it was so hysterical?
I'd be like, yeah, no, I don't want to do that.
Yeah, you would hate that.
That would be my nightmare.
Right.
So I just, I'm so glad that someone does it.
But I would never, ever, I would never want to do that.
That is just a horrible day.
Somebody just touching around your eyes for hours.
Yeah, making cheeks.
Oh.
There's just something about somebody touching you like that
where you're just like, no.
It's like the sketch.
Tim Robinson does in the mall where he's like,
get the shit off me.
Too much shit.
I don't want to be around.
It just goes to a dark place.
Right.
Such a great idea.
And then you get like, ah, no.
This is a bad idea.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Good show, funny show.
I'm mad how they wrapped it up.
like oh okay so this is gonna keep on going forever great that's dumb it it shouldn't have been a movie
but it should have just been like five episodes and 20 minutes each what's that limited series
yeah make a everybody wants to you know create everybody wants to be successful for so long
just do something for a little bit and then be done with it yeah like I you know I you
you know what it's on me i just have to watch shows and then stop watching them when they when they
turn and never watch them again true that's true you know it's on that's on me just bail like this show
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toss show my guest today is undoubtedly the most talented one-eyed teacher you've ever come across
she believes the children are our future but will never keep them after class because that's when
she makes viral videos in her classroom please welcome special education teacher fashion influencer and
disability advocate, Mrs. Sunshine.
Hi.
Did I mention she has one eye?
First question I ask all my guests.
How did you lose your eye?
Well, we got to take it back like 25 years.
I was five years old, fighting with my younger brother.
He was three, so it's like he wasn't trying to get my eye.
And it was about who would sweep our grandmother's front porch.
We're fighting over a broom.
You both wanted to sweep?
I know.
We were great kids.
I know.
I love this.
I know.
We're just servants to the grandmother.
So we're pulling on either side of a broom.
broom. The broom comes apart. Like, the old brooms, you had to screw them in, you know, the like
wood to metal just strips it and then I pull it into my own face. Okay. Yeah. Brother goes and hides in
the woods. Is he still there? No, but my Nana did have to go find him when the eye deflated
because she was like, we got to go, but mind you, we're on a mountain in a cabin. Where? Wyoming.
Uh-huh. So we had to drive down the mountain to get to the nearest hospital, but he was afraid. So he did
hide in the woods for probably like 10, 15 minutes.
Sorry that that happened to you.
I mean, just awful.
Had you not lived in Wyoming, had this accident happened in Los Angeles and you were
steps away from Cedars, would have the outcome been the same?
Could have those doctors potentially been able to save your eye?
So I actually didn't live in Wyoming.
I lived in Los Angeles.
My mom was a model, so she would send us off to our grandma's house in the summer so
she could work because she was single mothering it.
So I did actually get my eye seen about Cedar Sinai.
where I had 12 of my surgeries.
Okay. So they did everything they could.
But in the moment of Wyoming, was there something like, oh, had you been here right at this
moment, we could have done something different?
Honestly, probably, because the local hospital had to just like numb me up and send me to go
to Utah because they couldn't do anything for me.
So it was a drive there and then a drive all the way to Salt Lake City where my mom had like flown
in to meet us.
So that was many hours.
This is what I say to people.
When they start whining about California,
it's like, I know Los Angeles has a million strikes against it, fine.
But when shit hits the fan, God, you want our doctors.
We got good doctors here.
How bad does your brother feel for life about it?
Well, he, for the longest time, probably until middle school,
he thought that he hit me in the face with a broom
because we just never talked about it much.
I was never allowed to blame him.
My mom was like, that was an accident.
No, this was just like how it happened.
Your mom's good for that.
She was a great mom.
But he did internalize that for a while until in high school.
I was like, I pulled on it.
I was stronger than you.
I was five.
You were three.
You're holding on to that still.
And he was at that point.
And then I think he kind of released after that.
It did help once I started making content online about the eye.
And it was like a whole side hustle.
And then he was like, sunshine.
Come on.
Give me a good birthday gift, you know.
I do blame someone.
It's your grandmother's fault.
She was talking on the phone.
Because I have two little kids.
I got almost a three-year-old and a six-year-old.
And I watch them all the time.
they play. If they're yanking on something, I'm, I'm, knock it off. I know how this ends.
You knock helicopter parenting, but you don't know how much it prevents.
Tell someone loses an eye.
Until someone loses an eye. Now, are you one of these people? And I say it like that with that
tone that's like, if I could go back and change it, I wouldn't because it's shaped who I am
as a person, or would you immediately change it? I would not change it.
Oh.
It's, it's been, hear me out. Hear me out. It's cute. At this point, it's like, it's part of my
brand i get it i get all of that but knock it off it's true it's true but if you would have asked me
in middle school or high school honestly halfway through college i would have said yes immediately
because i hated it you were way smarter back then is what i'm learning that was way more insecure back
then no agree to disagree but the amount of things that i would change in my life if i could all i do
is replay everything that i've ever done and go i wish i would have done this different i don't care
how it's affected me now. I mean, I got like eyeball options. Not many people can say that. I know.
We all can get to that point. I just have to take a pen and do something horrible. I know.
By the way, you say that in middle school, high school. Kids were awful? Yeah, of course.
It's just horrible. Yeah, you look different. You are visibly disabled. Like, you're mocked, your
tees called a freak. So it's hard to like that part of yourself when people around you have made you feel
very negatively towards it. I wonder if your mom felt like this.
like weird thing because like she was a model and known for her outward beauty and then this
tragedy happens to her daughter who's beautiful and then you're like oh I think I internalized it
more when I was like hormonal because my mom had always been like the hot mom for you know she was
very beautiful and I was I felt like I couldn't measure up I also did child modeling until I lost
the eye and then I was no longer doing that so there was that kind of that's something I would
been a totally different person had I not lost the eye. I know. But my mom did go out of her way
to like she threw me a prosthetic eye party when I had my first prosthetic. She bolstered my confidence
as much as she could as a parent, but there's only so much combating a mom's love can do.
What do you say to people when they stare? I just let them or I'll like tap it. Oh, the tapping's a good
move. It's a great one. That's a power move. It's a good one. Usually to like the grownups,
So if it's a little kid, I'll give a wave.
But the grownups, if they're locked in, they're getting a tap.
I mean, but now at this point they're staring because you've done, it's like a...
Looks like a contact or a sticker.
I've asked how I got a sticker on my eye before.
Or tattooed.
Do they do that?
Only when I have the scolera, not white.
The scleras, the whites of the eyes, I have some that are like a red iris with a black scolera,
and they're like, how did you get that tattooed?
And I was like, well, started with a broom to my face.
The eye, your, you're a glass eye.
It kind of tracks with your other eye
It is moving almost the same constantly
Yeah, that's called the range of movement
Everyone's prosthetic will have a different range of movement
Mine is still limited
Like if I go all the way over here
It won't be able to like over there
I have muscles and the eye back there
It doesn't seem like a wonky eye where it's like out to, you know
Yeah, no, it's not like cock-eyed or whatever is the inner one
No
It really, it's pretty remarkable
Because every time it moves, I'm like, oh, it's moving, it's following exactly where you're looking.
If you didn't have a star on it, I don't think I would know.
Well, you think that, but when it does actually match, it gives, like, uncanny valley
because it doesn't look exactly the same and it doesn't move exactly the same.
So when your attention is drawn to the fact that, whoa, whoa, something's a little off,
it just derails what you'll focus on.
And most people do look at the eyes when they talk to people.
So it would just be clocked as a lazy eye most of the time.
No one thought I had two working eyes.
Or they thought you didn't have a soul.
Yeah, sold half of it.
Can you legally drive?
Yes.
As long as this eye maintains, I can drive.
Are you a bad driver because you are a woman?
No, my husband would argue I'm a bad driver because I drive like a crazy person with the,
I do the old nut weveling where you just roo, rooom, room when people are slow.
Honestly, I probably shouldn't do that.
The death reception is a little off.
I would be.
Do you get a handicap parking?
I can.
You don't?
I'm lazy.
I know.
You don't have to pay meters in L.A. if you have the placard.
Oh.
I mean, that's pretty good.
Are you serious?
Yep.
I didn't know that.
I thought it was just for like that.
No.
You can park in any meter on paid.
I'm calling my primary tune.
Do it.
Tonight.
Do it.
How is your depth perception with one eye?
Shitty?
Is it?
It's real bad.
I've got the fat bruise on my shin right now from just like walking into my own desk.
It like Mach 9, trying to get the phone.
And it was bad.
Do you remember life before that? Do you remember your vision before?
Not at all. It's why I think losing an, well, if you're going to lose an eyeball, do it as a kid, because you won't remember what it's like to be fully cited.
Do you sleep with the prosthetic on? Yes. Some people have to take it out. Some people are supposed to leave it in. Mine is supposed to always be in.
Is it more comfortable to not have one in?
No, for me, it's more comfortable to always have one in. I have a very sensitive little baby under there.
Kids, are kids bad or good to you now? Good.
Do you encourage them to ask questions or anything or no?
Yeah.
So with my students, one of the first things I do when introducing and like the get to know you
day, the first day of school, I do very openly talk about my eye.
I have light covers in my room.
So I do state that those are my accommodations.
I teach in an inclusive setting.
So it also like opens the door to talking about what you need in a way that's positive.
And I don't open the floor to questions in that moment.
But since I brought up the eye, I show a couple of the eyes on a little PowerPoint.
point, the kids know that they can comfortably ask me about it.
And some do, and they're like, no, offense, miss, blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, I'm not offended.
I, you know, I do this for fun.
It's because I think it's a fun thing.
So they do feel comfy asking me about it.
Random kids in the street will just, like, point and stare.
Oh.
Do you believe in ghosts?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I do.
It's just, it was just something you saw in a blind spot, and you're like,
oh, I don't know what that was.
No, I sleep with the lights on sometimes, so I don't trust it.
Really?
Yeah.
From time to time, scary movie has me feeling some type of way.
Do you like seeing scary movies?
Sometimes, I'm coming around to it, slowly, but surely.
I'm not allowed to watch them.
Sunshine, is that your birth name?
Mm-hmm.
Is it really?
Mm-hmm.
Your mom named you Sunshine?
Not because of hippiness, but her father's name was Sunny.
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
I have a friend, their daughter's name is Sunny.
It's a good name.
She knew it would be my nickname.
Is your nickname Sunny?
Mm-hmm.
That's pretty good.
Mine's Dan, Dan, the mustard man.
not so good
that's a long nickname it's a real
it's a real long nickname
how did you get into having more creative eyes
than your traditional match
so I first wanted a fun eye when I was in high school
but my mom didn't want to foot the bill
because if I didn't like it there was no going back
my ocularis would have made me a green eye
so it would have been like custom fun not matching
so that didn't happen
when I got to my mid-20s
and I paid for my very first eye all on my own
I did have finally the like bravery to go for the green eye.
And my theory was that people would focus on the color being different instead of the
movement being funky.
And that was 100% what happened.
Everyone started complimenting my eye, noticing it, saying that it was heterochromia,
which was what it looked like.
And so that kind of started my fun eye journey.
And then from there, since I was posting about it online, I got connected with Rachel
McKinsley and Christina, Rachel has one eye.
Christina makes the eyes.
And so they wanted me to come out.
Christina wanted to make me a fun eye.
And I was like, Ricky, you're going with me because I'm going to go meet people from the
internet.
And this is, who knows?
So we flew out and it ended up being amazing.
These women are now, some of my best friends.
And we're on a nonprofit together.
So we're like supporting other people getting fun eyes as well.
How many eyes do you have?
I have 24 at this point.
How expensive are they?
One of my best friends makes them.
So I know, I got the bestie discount.
Where's your best friend located?
Portland, Oregon.
Of course they are.
Center for ocular prosthetics.
You can't.
They're great.
You can't not be in Portland and do that type of art.
It's perfect.
Do you call it art?
Oh, yeah, 100%.
I mean, I've painted my own eyes.
Is this all she does?
She does matching eyeballs as well, but her passion is for fun custom prosthetic eyes because it's more empowering.
And how much business does she get?
Oh, she's booked through a year and a half.
She's wildly busy.
It does very well.
Do you have to get it sized exactly?
Yes.
So a mold is taken of your like eye hole space, whatever you got working with in there.
Can I see your brain in there? Is that how it works?
No. No. I have a little damaged eye. Some people don't have an eye at all. But even then they have scar tissue, not like brain.
So they have to take a mold. And then from that mold that they take from this burny, silicone type stuff, they then are able to have a like pressed mold for the eye.
I don't make them. I don't know.
The legal terms.
I got you.
Does insurance cover it?
Insurance will cover about 80%.
The good insurances of matching prosthetic eyes, they don't touch customized, which is unfortunate.
So if you want a custom one, you got to pay out of pocket.
Which is what?
Typically, like, 1,000 to 5,000.
I mean, if you told me that's what an eye costs, it's like, well, it's a fucking eye, you know, it's going to...
And it takes some hours to paint.
It's a laborous process.
How often do you switch your eyes out?
For videos, more often than, like, everyday changing.
This is my most comfortable eye, so I will default wear this eye.
And then if I've got a fun event, I will put an eye in to match with the outfit.
Do you have uncomfortable eyes?
Yeah.
Can you like just shave them down in a corner?
I'm like, all right, that'll feel better.
Yeah, but my girl is in Portland.
So to adjust my eyes, I have to fly to Portland and then...
Can't you say just make them all match this one?
It's tricky because I have a very sensitive socket, and they're all hand-carved.
So if even the slight, like, isn't perfect, I'll feel it.
And since I'm not there when she's making it to do the quick adjustments,
I'll typically go visit, hang out with my friends out there, bring like five eyes,
and then get adjustments on them.
And you brought some of your fun eyes here?
Yeah, I have a couple.
Do you ever let anyone else wear your eyes?
No.
So, okay, some people do have similar socket shapes.
Uh-huh.
And I do have a socket twin, but,
To me, that just feels, that's like spitting in each other's mouths.
That's gross.
Oh, I was going to say that's kind of hot.
See, but some people would think that.
You want me to touch it?
I mean, I'd wash them before I put them in my face.
This has been in your hole?
Yep.
It's been in my eye hole.
Because I can't put contacts in.
It always drives me nuts.
And I hate when makeup is put on my eyes.
It drives me nuts.
So I wouldn't do well with this, right?
Or would I just get used to it?
You'd get used to it.
It takes a minute to get you.
used to the funkiness of it. If makeup gets on my prosthetic, it hurts, but it sucks. So I have to
like take it out and then clean it. And I also can't put contacts on this eye. It gives me the
hebi-jeebies to even go near it. But you don't like, okay, it sounds weird, but you
don't see it coming. So you do that helps? It helps. Yeah. Have you ever accidentally
poked your own non-existent eye? Yeah. It hurts if I accidentally with my nail,
because I'll like use my finger to pop it in and out. You ever wear a eye patch?
Very rarely because I've got a weird sensory thing about things touching my face.
It's not my favorite.
So I have worn them in the past because one of my girlfriends does make really awesome eye patches
and I wanted to test them out for her, make a little video about it.
And so I wore it in Japan to kind of see the way that people react to eye patch versus fun prosthetic.
And if it could endure.
You're a westerner girl in Japan.
They're going to react to you regardless.
Yeah.
But I mean, you'd think when I was on a new.
new scooter out there. They cared more about the scooter than the eye
or anything else. No, well, now you went
techie. They love tech. Oh,
they love tech. I don't think people use
new scooters out there. I like to stereotype everyone.
How long am I going to
hold these? I don't know. I was like,
you're just having a good time with them. Well, I'm not.
By the way, are they delicate? Like, if I step on it, is it going to break?
You could drop them, they'd be all right. I don't want to.
I'm just saying, but have you broken an eye before?
I have not, but one of my friends
cracked their eye. But she's
a little reckless with her eye sometimes.
What about writing stuff in there?
Do you have any with a favorite lyric?
Yeah.
Maybe some scripture or, I mean, or something.
A little knife on the top.
No, I don't have you seen.
Stop staring, like something like that.
The text would be so small.
It'd be hard to make out.
But there are people to get like their favorite sports team stuff on there.
So they have like the tiny little text.
Would you consider a dolphins logo?
No.
I don't like sports.
I know, but, you know.
So I feel like it would be squandering one of my eye shapes.
Get your eye off my desk.
I've always wanted to say that
That one's my fancy eye
Special occasions
Can I put it in my eye?
You can try
Oh my God
It's not gonna fit bro
I mean I don't know how to do it
Dapper Dane
Beautiful
It looks good
It's nice
Okay
All right sorry about that
I'll wash it
Do you always have an extra eye on you?
Not always.
If I'm wearing my non-comfortable eyes, I will keep a more comfortable backup.
And do you have any cheapy?
Like, I have cheapy glasses around my house.
Do you have any cheapy eyes?
No, the process that goes into it's all the same.
But I do have some that are more expensive because they've got, like, gems or more precious stuff in it.
I can't believe we can't think of anything, like, crazy to do to an eye that she hasn't already thought of.
I mean, you said somebody put lights in it, and that's pretty funny.
fun. And like a spider.
Yours glow in the dark, any of them?
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
This one will glow a little bit, but you've got to, like, charge her up.
Can you stare directly at the sun with your bad eye?
Yeah.
Oh, that's a plus.
Donald Trump.
What about, like, a snow globe kind of fluid in there?
Oh, a snow globe.
So, Christina has tried that two different times.
Both times was a flop.
It's very tricky.
They've not figured that one out yet.
Okay.
What about, like, magic eight ball your eye?
That would be interesting.
The, like, the suspending of stuff.
Figuring it out.
Look straight up, and then we get the signs point together.
You'd have to have a thick eyeball for that.
What about a candy eye?
I don't have one like that.
That's cool.
Then you pop it.
Instead of tap in it, you just pop it out in front of kids and eat it.
Oh, you mean like real candy?
Yes.
Oh, God.
No, I'm talking about to eat it.
I'm talking about eating your eye.
I feel like you'd be real goopy.
Well, I'm not, listen, it's a one-off.
It's like, you know, edible.
It's for the bit.
Edible underwear.
You don't really, no one gets hungry for edible underwear.
It's just something that we know exists.
It's like a jawbreaker.
I'm wearing a pair right now.
Does your husband have a preference?
Yeah, he has a favorite eye.
Does he prefer you to have an eye in?
Yeah, because otherwise my eyelid just like closes.
How did you meet your husband?
In high school.
Oh, my goodness.
When we were both in high school together, let me be clear.
We were in the same grade.
We actually met at freshman orientation.
He was like three inches shorter than me at the time of meeting.
I thought he had cute face, but I'm going.
staggering five four and he was like so 10th grade swings around he's taller than me and I'm just like
done that is mine and then he was like I have ears that is so weird to like know that you knew your
husband before he went through puberty yeah a little bit and that like me and my best friend
talked about which one we were going to get and like she it's like you're shorter you can have that one
oh this is my now husband you guys you did a swap little one an early wife swine
We do. We did.
Husband swap. How old were you when you got married?
23.
How many years have you been married?
Seven years?
Mm-hmm.
That's a while.
Mm-hmm.
Forget life that you can't remember when you had both your eyes.
You barely can remember life before your husband.
Literally, no clue.
I'm always like, babe, you're not allowed to die.
I would just, like, be a spencer at that point, LeMont.
Can you feel people when there's eye contact honing in on your working eye?
I can't tell.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's like the general vibe if they went nose eye or that eye, I don't.
I'm always confused with eye contact to begin with.
Because usually when people are talking, I look at their mouth because I don't hear well.
So I'm like, oh, I'll do a little, I'll cheat a little bit.
But now I'm like, oh, where am I supposed to stare?
Do you teach in public or private school?
Public.
And yours is, a special education in high school?
Yeah.
Okay.
What's your age range for your kids?
It varies between like 15 to 17.
I'll write IEPs when needed for like the ninth graders.
So I'll occasionally have a little 13, 14-year-old student that I'm working on their paperwork for, but typically it's my 11th graders.
Were you always drawn to that?
You're like, this is what I'm going to teach.
I'm in my eighth year teaching.
I bounced around a little bit, but by far, high school is, in my humble opinion, where it's at, if you're going to be a teacher, because the worst thing's going to happen is, like, maybe the kids are, like, doing drugs or doing something they ought not in a private space on campus.
And maybe you get cursed out a little bit.
But no one is, like, absolutely losing their mind the way they do in middle school.
when hormones start kicking in, like, to where they're making very interesting choices.
And there's, like, not crying, like, an elementary school.
I don't know how to console a crying child as a teacher, because I'm, like, I'm not going
to hug someone else's child.
Well, you can hug a child.
I don't know.
I help at my kids in first grade class all the time.
And I'm hugging kids if they need it.
Some kids just need it.
I'm just not built to be an elementary school teacher.
I'm just like, I'm a pat on the head type of gal, you know?
You got it, champ.
Is this special needs class or not a special?
Inclusion.
Inclusion.
So that means there is general education students and special education students together.
But the kids I teach are considered mild to moderate.
So like lower levels of supports, the ADHD dyslexia of it all type population.
Like you would look in the classroom and not be able to like pinpoint exactly who might be on my caseload.
Are you dyslexic?
Probably have not been properly diagnosed.
But the more that I've progressed as a special education teacher, the more I side eye some of my own things where I'm like, hmm, I was a high functioning of certain things.
How much more difficult is it to work in a special education classroom?
It varies.
So it definitely depends on the type of students you're working with.
So if you're in a moderate to severe classroom, it's entirely different than if you're in a mild to moderate setting.
You're a mild to moderate.
Yes.
What kind of challenges are your students facing?
Motivation, having performing it significantly below grade level and having to bolster them into producing grade level work.
There's always the writing and documenting of IEP stuff that is something.
thing Jenna teachers just don't have to ever touch or worry about. So I don't think it's the most
challenging on my end, but I'm also at a school that sets me up to do my job very well. That's
not the case everywhere. Sometimes you'll have one special education teacher spread through
like 50 kids, which is a nightmare. What's your ratio? 16 are on my caseload. I write 13 IEPs a
year. I'm given entire Mondays as bed planning days to work through all of my paperwork. So I rarely
feel like I'm drowning. Does your disability change the way you approach teaching special
ed? That's why I went into teaching special ed. So it's hard to know what has influenced
what exactly, but I just know that when I had an IEP growing up, there were teachers that
treated me like I was stupid or couldn't do certain things or would talk down to me, and I didn't
like how that felt. So when I was considering going into being a teacher, I was like, you know what,
I'm going to be a special education teacher because I want to pour back into my own community
and help kids see themselves in me even if they don't have one eye
and really know they have someone in their field cheering them on that like gets it
has struggled, has cried in a class before during a quiz because they were frustrated.
The school was always just kind of a necessary evil for me.
It's tough and I think that a teacher can either make your experience a little more enjoyable
or really shitty.
Do you like where you teach? Would you teach elsewhere?
I love where I teach.
I feel like I've found the place that if shit hits a fan, that's when I'd best.
out of teaching.
How far is your commute every day?
30 to 40 minutes.
Each way, 30 to 40 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
That's acceptable, I say.
Good audiobook, good to go.
Do you listen to audiobooks?
Mm-hmm.
I don't like, like, actually reading.
Oh.
I'm bad at it.
Is that because of your eye?
Mm-hmm.
It is?
It can't, like, track in a straight line very well.
That's interesting.
I got to do the, like, finger reading
or, like, put the paper down as I go.
Is there a way that we could design a book that would be easier for you,
to read? Is there a way that the words could be written? Or is there a computer screen that would
be easier? Bigger text, but also, again, had my special education teachers when I was younger
taught me accurately how to manage that, I wouldn't struggle as much as an adult, but they phoned
it in quite a bit. I know. I'm just trying to think if we could come up with like some software
on a computer that would be like, this is actually how your eye would process things at a quicker
rate. I wouldn't know. I'm just like, I'm going to get on that. Get on that. One long line. One long line.
Gosh, I feel like I started tripping out on that, too.
No, but it's going to go fast.
It's going to fly by.
Do you hang out in the lounge?
What's going on in there?
Do you like your teachers, your coworkers?
Yeah.
Is it a group?
Is it like fun?
There's like tighter-knit inner circles of people that hang out more outside of work.
But honestly, we keep pretty dang busy.
So it's like you see each other in passing when grabbing a coffee.
Someone's running off print.
You get the like, how was the weekend and I'm tired.
And then, you know.
proceed. Has Trump fixed our education
system? No.
The reason why we lost two sped
teachers because of the budget cuts.
Oh. Yeah. What do you think of Linda
McMahon? I think she should
stick to TV. Oh, is that what
she does? I don't think, I don't want it on TV either.
I don't know. Yeah.
We'll be right back.
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Do you think kids are okay in general,
or do you think we're all going to hell in a handbasket?
I think it's alarming when a lot of high schoolers can't read properly.
It's a lot, and there's only so much intervention
that can support when a child's reading level is many grades below,
and not just on my caseload.
Like, we're not talking about students of disabilities, like, across the board.
It's alarming.
We constantly just keep.
lowering the bar instead of like making kids have to do more education. It's like, well,
if they can't read, let's just lower the bar even more. Or they do two weeks of summer school
and then you pass them anyway. You're supposed to just pass kids, aren't you? Yes. They make it
very hard to not. I think in the many years I've taught at this school, we've only retained
one student and it was only for one subject. And that was it. But it's very challenging to
in the documentation and parent has to approve as well. But yeah, no child left behind
impacted a lot of reading levels.
I think what we need to do is implement a Billy Madison rule that every five years
you have to go through all 12 grades in two weeks.
Yeah.
Good.
That's good.
Thank you.
That'll be a part of my agenda.
There we go.
Is your class an easy class to cheat in?
No, I've got Go Guardian.
I just lock their screens and then they can't cheat.
What about kids and using like AI and chat GPT to do all their papers?
Is this just the way of the world now?
They try to push it, but there's also like Go Guardian that can block websites they can access.
However, we do have one of the last units we do teaches kids how to use AI properly because they're going to try to use it and we don't want them to use it stupidly in college.
One of the last things we teach the 11th Raiders before shoo-shooing them onto the 12th grade is a little mini unit on AI as a tool in the classroom for kids.
Okay.
Do junior's rule?
Yeah, I think they're the best grade to teach. They don't have senioritis, you know.
I've always said juniors rule. They're fun. It's a good batch of babies.
Oh, sophomores. Those are the tough ones. I hate them. They're too comfy.
They think, they think just because they're not the lowest on the rung that they're important, but they're not.
Do you guys have to have shooter drills? Every year. Every year, just once a year.
Yeah, and anytime there's a school shooting, we usually have a little, like, debrief at the beginning of class, going over procedures, and...
When these tragedies inevitably continue to happen, and then people start floating ideas, well, we're going to start arming our teachers.
What goes through your brain at that point?
You just don't want a gun in the classroom.
If anything, I do think that having the scanner when people come in so that they can't enter in without whatever,
to me, that's significantly more effective than having a gun in a lockbox under a desk that now is a looming threat to the kids
or maybe having, like, retired veterans like volunteering and they're trained for XYZ.
What about one live grenade in your desk drawer?
like ready to go. Just one grenade. You have a grenade in a drawer. I feel like I would be comfortable
with that. Like, okay, I know how this works. Something bad happens. Kids are in the hallway. That's
on them. Oh, Lord. Just open the door, roll it out there. I don't know what the fix is for that.
Maybe not a grenade. No, not a grenade. You got one of those, those emergency showers in your
classroom. I always liked those in the science labs, the big ring, the metal ring.
We got an emergency poop shoot. What's that?
A bucket
With a modesty screen
Is that just
Somebody has to emergency poop?
In case there's a shooter
They got a poop
What?
I mean if you're trapped in your classroom
Are you talking about if you're locked in the classroom?
And someone's got the poopie doopies
You got to
The poopie do
Is that new slang?
Is that the slang?
Is that what kids are saying?
The anxious shits?
I don't know.
Huh.
And it's never been used?
Oh, it's been used before.
You retire the bucket once it's used.
But you've seen it, you?
Not me.
Another teacher, there was a shooting outside the school,
and they were on lockdown for like six hours.
Most people just held,
but someone couldn't in the poop shoot was...
I don't know that it would be.
I don't know that that would have been me.
Yeah, I don't know.
I might have just taken my chances
and been like a hero and sort of stormed.
Run to the bathroom.
Storm the castle.
I don't know.
After lunch, I feel like you're...
It's nightmare fuel stuff.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Is that that type of stuff that happened?
and even the anxiety that yearly preparation,
is that enough to make you go,
I don't want to do this?
It makes me think about it.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, it's why, I mean,
I get police being afraid of dying at their job.
Why should a teacher and kids?
That's crazy.
That's where I'm at, too.
Of course, police should be afraid,
but those are people that-
They know what they're signing up for.
Yes, they accept some level of risk.
Yeah.
To be a teacher and have to feeling the responsibility
of all these kids.
And when I did teach in a classroom where it was all students of disabilities that were more higher levels of support, I knew that there's no every man for themselves run, go take care of yourself, child. It's like, I am responsible for these lives. Like, I'm going down with this group if something happens because they're not able to manage themselves. I think the elementary school teachers feel that same level of fear too. Now high school, I'm just like, you guys run when you can. You go. You have your phones. Get your people. Go.
Get a grenade.
We need, I mean, hand it to one of your brave kids and go, here you go, buddy.
Do you dress like this outfit today?
Would this be an appropriate outfit for school or no?
It's a little short, but I did actually wear this very similarly to work, but I had pants underneath.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I bring this up because I know that you've been told that you don't dress like a traditional teacher.
Do you care about that or no?
No.
Okay.
As long as I'm dressing appropriately and abiding by my.
school's policy, which even what I show online is more conservative than necessarily what my
school would require me to wear, but I know people have a lot of opinions online. So, no,
it's self-expression, and it models for students that you shouldn't be afraid to express yourself
in ways that are dynamic. That's what I've always tried to tell people, Eddie. I'm trying to express
myself. I used to have funky haircuts in high school. Oh, just shave the side of my head.
Have fun with it. Oh, it was good times. Which pays more?
I make substantially more from online stuff than teaching.
Would you give it up if the money got too lopsided?
No, it already is very lopsided, but it's my passion, and I think it's more important.
So I'm going to write it out until I'm, like, over teaching.
And right now I still love it and I'm energized to go to work.
Teaching every day pays around $200 a day.
Is that the going rate in Los Angeles?
Yeah, and I'm at a school that pays pretty well.
Am I shocked?
No.
That seems about right to me.
That seems about what I would expect.
Now, you shoot a lot of your content in your classrooms.
Is that frowned upon?
Nobody at the school is ever like, you can't do this or no?
No.
So it's always important to read the, like, school policy around things.
And so our big one is no kids and no identifiable, like, things for the school.
And other than that, you're allowed to share it on social media.
What do you like to do for fun?
I work two jobs, so I don't have a ton of downtime.
But I do love video games.
And, oh, anytime there's a break.
from teaching, I'm going abroad or traveling with either friends or my husband.
Does your husband have any disabilities?
Not that he's diagnosed for.
Could we think of a few, though?
I'm sussie.
I am suspicious.
Everybody's on the show gets a gift.
It's just stuff that I find around my house that I think the guest might take.
If it's eyeball themed, I'm here for it.
Well, first they wanted to give you.
This.
They're so cute.
Okay, but this is from John.
Did I talk on the show about the problem, John, or no?
No, not at all.
I never, okay.
Get in depth.
John, who works on this show, has, he thinks he has an orchard.
He's got a tree that produces apples.
Well, he sent me home with some apples.
I was like, oh, this is great.
We love apples in our house.
And I bit into it and it was disgusting.
Then I handed one of my kids, and they thought it was disgusting.
And I'm like, these aren't ripe.
And then I started yelling at him.
And I was texting him, like, they're the worst apples we've ever tasted.
We all hate them.
The skin was awful.
And then his wife starts getting mad at us.
Saying, what is he talking about?
Well, first of all, you kept saying that apples cannot be grown in Southern California.
Well, I didn't think this is the region for apples when tasting your apples.
They didn't taste good.
Okay.
I was just mad.
Anyway, long story short, too late for that.
But he recently texted me.
He goes, hey, I think you are right.
I think I had picked months too early.
And now he's bringing me new apples.
And they're good?
I have no idea.
I want you to taste it first
All right
Are they washed?
Yes
I don't know if that's true
I want the baby as to the apples
You take whatever you want
Just a tiny bite
Just to tell us if the apple
Is it acceptable or no
I like a sour apple
A little peanut butter
And this slaps
Mm-hmm
Those are yours
I like them
I also feel like it's a lot of
A lot of skin
The skin feels tough to me still
Is that where the nutrients is at though
I don't care
I just want it to taste good
I'm not into it
It's a million times better John
It's a million times better
I like it John
Just so you know that you sent me an apple
That was
Go ahead. Shoot it. You got to shoot it.
I like it. You're going to be fine.
It's wasteful. Just throw it.
Oh, I'm going to miss.
No, you'll never miss.
Oh.
Buckets.
All right. That's a gift one.
You have two?
Here. I thought you'd like this.
You'll do something fashiony with it.
Yeah, you'll see it in a video. I'll make it work.
These are a bunch of fake eyelashes.
Are they used?
No, my wife took one for some Halloween thing, but that's it.
There's only one missing.
What did she did? Was she a Pirou?
It was like a Dave of Dead thing.
Okay.
Here, then I got you this.
No, I didn't get this for you.
I just took it out of my daughter's room.
This was like some eye crystal stuff that she like put around her head.
Wait, this is, yes.
I figure you can do something.
This is a win.
This is a win.
This one's a win for sure.
I'll take it.
Well, the scarf could be a win.
You'll see.
Thank you for the gift.
Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome for all you do.
Well, listen, Sunshine, thank you for being on the show.
All the best to you.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
I want to thank Sunny for being on the show and for, uh, let me, uh, finger her eyes.
Yeah, that's nice.
That was nice.
That was really nice.
I don't, I don't know if I'm going to tell my kids to, uh, knock it off when they're yanking
on a broomstick.
I'll just be like, you know what?
Your life might turn out amazing if one of you loses an eye.
Yeah.
I blinded my father once as a kid.
What'd you do?
threw an airplane perfectly flew perfectly straight hit him right in the eye he was he couldn't
see for like a week furious he was so mad good plane it was a great plane it was a great plane
it flew true like just level just you know you know like sometimes when they glide perfect a perfect
paper airplane and just kind of drops a little i mean he could take his eye off of it watching
I don't think he was watching me.
It's just out of nowhere.
It kind of just came in and got him.
That's the worst.
It was in St. Louis.
We had a Cardinals game.
We went to a few days later.
He was tripping on the sidewalk, cursing me.
How about you, Carl?
Huh?
Carl, you got anything to add to this?
Oh, no.
Did you get in trouble with Sunshine?
And she told you to put your head on the desk?
Or are you trying to sleep in class?
I used to always wedge a book here.
Then I could lay down comfortably.
Whatever.
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Do we have any voicemail today?
We do.
All right, let's hear them.
My name is Jody, independently welcome.
live in Oklahoma. I pick Trump.
Shameless chocolate diet, but I
do live in a red state.
Okay. All right.
He's independently wealthy.
He lives in a red state, and he's older than
probably what we're looking for.
Right. I don't have a problem
with that. The guy sounds fun.
He does sound fun.
I like that kind of voice.
I can listen to a guy like that, tell me stories.
Yeah, it's going to have, it could be a horrible
story, but it's great coming out of his voice.
I like it.
I'll tell us about, you know, some things one time they fucking beat a hooker.
It's going to say it's really bad.
Yeah, I like it.
That guy seems pretty cool.
Anybody else?
Yep.
All right, let's hear this guy.
Hi, Daniel.
My name's Ashley.
I know.
That's a woman.
I'm not a man.
But I just wanted to call it anyways because Amanda's really pretty and so is your wife and you.
I'm 5'7.
I have a decent job.
doing like tech support stuff um i work with horses i'm a horse girl um and i think you and i would
get along on vacation well actually maybe we wouldn't because i also have ibs and i'm also
always shitting my pants and i really honestly hang on i truly appreciate how open you are with
it because it was something that i used to be so embarrassed about why i would be like oh i'm throwing
up and I would make like coughing sounds while I'm shitting my brains out but I've just accepted
it now you know I'm I'm a pretty woman who shits a lot and sometimes can't go on long
drive put that on a t-shirt I will have to shit on the side of the road I'm a pretty woman who
shits a lot you go ah I like her I don't know if Amanda's ready to change complete lifestyles
yeah let's let's let's throw it in there actually if we had two people that they had bad stomachs
be good. I could use this to my advantage because
now it's one thing when
I'm the only voice to say let's not do
this, but now if there's two
people that potentially could shit all over the side
of the road. There's power in numbers.
You throw in my father-in-law who
can't control his bladder. We're
quite the group. Because he's all bundled
up and tucked in.
I don't know if we can have two people
that shit themselves in the same car.
We're confusing
my kids enough.
That seems like too much.
Let me think about this one.
See you next week.
