Tosh Show - My Mobile Vet - Dr. Nenn

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

Daniel is visited by Dr. Katie Nenneker, founder of a mobile veterinary service that has grown from equine medicine to treat a wide variety of animals across Southern California.  Join our Patreon for exclusive content: http://patreon.com/toshshow Learn more about the Nenn Foundation: https://www.nennfoundation.com/

Why did the chicken cross the road? Because it's new you're coming over and it wanted to stay alive. Tosh Show. Tosh Show. Tosh Show for show. Welcome to Tosh Show. I'm comedian and podcast host, Daniel Tosh. With me, Eddie Gosling.

Eddie, how are you? I'm doing good. How are you doing, Daniel? great. How was your week? Week was good. You went up to Tahoe and whenever Eddie goes to Tahoe, he was preparing his cabin for the summer. Right. Let me just guess you had a project. I did. What'd you go? What'd you go up there and do? Stained the back of the log cabin. You stained the back of your cabin. A little bit on the front, but just the back needed it because of the shed we get from the roof. That snow sits there, soaks into the wood and then the sun hits it

all summer, so it just kind of dries it out. It looks way less treated than the rest of the cabin. All right. So how long did that take? It took like a couple days. How many coats did you give it? Well, the first coat soaks in. The second coat protects. What brand of sealer did you use? Which I could tell you. Can't remember. Did you just go to Home Depot? Ace Hardware. Ace. You got to go to Ace. Ace knows what's up. You got to support the local Ace Hardware. I always love an Ace Hardware because they're independently owned and operated. Exactly. And you get a good feeling when you go in there.

And I always think it's nice because those guys usually look down on me because I don't know what I'm doing. It's like, I'm always like, here's what I want to do. You do real projects. So I'm sure it's a little more, you know, you're getting a little more credit than I am. I'm usually like, I lost a bolt. They're like, well, the bolts are right down there. I'm like, yeah, but I don't want to go through all of them. Honestly.

You just show me which one is this exact size. That's the worst wall of bolts. I brought the nut in. Yes, exactly. They're like, is that all you need? I'm like, yeah, I just needed the bolt. And they're like, well, write down the code. I'm like, well, can't you just remember it and go up there and ring me up?

Now I've got to write down a code on a piece of paper. I'm like, where's the paper? And then he's like, they're right there. And then I'm like, well, these pencils, it's not very sharp. These are bad. He's like, it'll make do. I'm like, ah, ace hardware. But we love it.

Listen, I get so excited for summertime up in Tahoe. It's like camp. I don't send my kids to camp Sometimes I'll consider Doing these day camps But I ended up not doing it We always did those You did them?

Day camps Like a surf camp or a skateboard camp But nothing overnight Okay so you're talking about You're just letting your kids pick up a skill Yes Uh huh Now what's we'll call it

What's the camp Where the flooding happened The Guadalupe River Camp Mystic Yeah Okay Now they have decided officially that they're not going to

reopen this year after the tragedy last year that took 25 campers and two counts. Oh, this is triggering. Here we go. I'm going to talk about it. Listen, it's part of God's plan that I talk about it. So I think, I think that's okay. I can't wrap my head around. Let me get the number right. over 900 parents that signed up to send their kids back to this camp this summer. I mean, I get it. It was a freak storm and all of this and all the stuff went wrong. But there's no assurances that everything is fixed and that the system would never fail again. Now, I think they might have been saying, oh, there's a different location.

They have a lake nearby that's a higher elevation. I can't let this go. I get it. You want your girls to go to the same weird Christian all-girl camp, and it develops leaders in the Texas area. It's just all you want for your kids, your checklist should be two things. It should be A and B.

I want them to not die and not get molested. And then underneath those two things, there's like a million smaller things. I want them to get a good education. But the real big ones are I don't want my kids to die and I don't want them to get molested. Yeah. Agreed?

Yeah. Back there? 100%. Okay. If last year, 25 girls had the most horrific death imaginable for a fun camp and you're like, I'm going to sign my kids up as a sign of solidarity. That is just nuts. I would never let my girl go there ever I mean there's a million reasons why I wouldn't but

here's what I wanted I wanted to find out that camp mystics uh waiting list for this year to reopen was at three and it was just three parents that were like on auto sign they forgot to unsubscribe right they forgot to unsubscribe and like I was like oh shit no no I don't want her to go to death camp yeah and you're like what a of the odds that it would happen again. I don't know, probably nil. But why reward this camp financially that was so negligent to begin with? I mean, you're basically just funding the inevitable payout to these victims that if they're not suing, oh, I mean, whatever. One of them has, out of 25 girls and two counselors, one of their families,

has to have some sense and be like, okay, we're going to bankrupt this camp forever. Do parents just want to be away from their kids so bad? Why are you sending them away? This reminds me of like the childhood that my father had. Well, you know, you got aboard a train. You said goodbye to your parents and in four years you came back a man. I don't know. Where does this train go?

Like my mom says it all the time. she says like, oh, the way you guys parent, it's so exhausting. And I'm like, it's not. We just have fun with our kids. I had children because I wanted to have children, not because it was like a calling from God or it was, you know, just what was expecting me. No, I wanted to have children so we had children. Now I'm not going to, well, now I don't want them.

They're not cute anymore. And my son's feet stink to high heavens. It smells like if diarrhea was soaked in vinegar. That's what my son's feet smell like, but it's, I still want them in the house. I'm not telling them, all right, we'll go, go rough it with bare grills and I'll hope for the best. Oh, yes. You know, whenever there's like the number one cause of death for, for children, it's always something that's like horrible.

So it was like drowning. You know, you know why? Because kids aren't supposed to die. That's the reason. Right. Okay? My kids, mm. They've been in swim class since they were probably six months old.

My son's seven, my daughter three. Once a week, they're in swim class. My son, it's just, it's basically like a personal trainer at this point, working them out. Right. But you want to know what she taught my kids in the beginning or she taught me? She said, she gave me a tool for my daughter to not die, basically giving me 30 to 60 to 60 seconds before she's dead. That's year one of swim training.

Uh-huh. And I know a lot of people don't have the time or the means, but if you're going to have a pool and you don't want to cover it constantly, you better make sure your kids can survive, so I do it. And now, I mean, my son is a machine. He can, you know, he can do 50 laps without getting tired. My daughter, after three years, she can fall in the pool, get out. fine but if she were on her own swimming she's got about two minutes two and a half minutes

before she needs to hold on to something before she's dead my kids don't be in the pool either case you were wondering that's nice no they don't they they love finding weird places in the yard to pee my daughter like stands like my son because that's who she watches pee in the yard and she puts her hands down by her parts as if she's holding a penis to pee. That's incredibly disturbing to watch. I'm like, you don't have to do that, honey.

You can just stand, you can just stand open up a little bit. Now she's like arch is back and like, like she's like just relaxing on a lake. Checking the scores on her phone. Water's dangerous. Even when we go to the beach, I make my kids like,

you don't turn your back on the ocean. The Pacific Ocean. For real. Like knock it off. Sneaker waves happen all the time kids get blown up I'm not how many times on tosh point oh did we see a video of somebody in Hawaii standing on a fun rock with their whole wedding party and then an explosion of water takes them all away and let me tell you those videos are fun to watch but let me promise you

every single one of them was like oh no we're going to die yeah you're getting dragged over sharp rocks it's just the worst thing that wrecked Yeah, you know, guess what? I yell at my kids every time. Don't turn your back to the ocean. It doesn't take a 30-foot wave to drown you or to paralyze you. A three-foot wave can do it if you're not paying attention. Look who turned into Captain's safety.

Right there, Dan Tosh did. Oh, and I get camp as good. You want your kids to be out in nature and plane, all of that stuff. I love nature. I love animals, but sometimes things go wrong. And when they do, when it comes to animals, today's guest is your fix. Enjoy.

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My guest today has been out to my house a few times in an attempt to say. save a loved one. Sadly, her attempts were unsuccessful every time. There's no other way to say it. I'm not accusing her of anything, but do that information what you will. Please welcome farm animal vet, Dr. Nen. Katie, doctor. Hello. How are you? I'm doing great. I'm super happy to be here. Water under the bridge. Obviously. No, no. I'll get right into this first of all. You've come out to help me with some of my chicken problems that I've had. One of them, let's just talk about this, the most recent one, what did chickens get sometimes right at birth if they're not vaccinated for it?

Merricks. Merricks. Okay. One of my chickens, I pretty sure had Merricks, right? Yes. Okay. And you gave us some antibiotics if we wanted to try. And we did it for six or seven days.

And I was like, you know, this chicken's not going to live. And boom, chicken died. That's not, that's not on you. What made me laugh is you sent a sincere, condolence card and you made your entire staff write something from my lost chicken. But this chicken I'd only had for three days. It just seemed over the top that we would do that. Like you made all your employers.

Are they doing this all day long? Well, we'll say we do like five to ten a week. I mean, that's a lot of like how many times can they write something about your stupid animal. I love pets as family. I know, but I'm also not, I love my pets like I love family, more than most of my family, to be honest. But, I mean, at this point, I'm like, this chicken's only been around my house for a week. Yeah, but, I mean. Let me start.

Do you believe in ghosts? Yes. You ever witnessed one? Yeah, so the short answer is yes. I've got two stories about ghosts personally, but one is I saw a cat ghost. Oh, a spirit animal Oh, I like that, a spirit animal Okay, I saw a spirit animal

When I was growing up, I was old enough That I wasn't like Mistaking a stuffed animal Like I looked over in my brother's room And I'm like, oh, there's a cat in there And then I'm like, we don't have that cat And I looked back and it was gone You wait, wait, wait, wait, you saw the cat

Or you saw a shadow? I saw the cat. It was like a Persian cat It was the whole on the bed looking at me You should have followed it. Wait, don't they go to, what you'll call it, Wonderland? That sounds great. All right. That one's not true. Next one.

That's not true. No. The other one was, I was like nine in my old house growing up, and I had a little chalkboard that was the shape of a dinosaur, and I had a little thing at the base where the chalk sat on. And out from underneath a chair that had curtains, flung a piece of chalk, and it was like fast enough that it ruffled the curtains on the chair. The chalk ping ponged around my room, too fast that I could. couldn't follow it. It was like, bing, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Chalk doesn't do that. And it landed on my chalkboard in the sill that holds the chalk, and it went, like, rocked back and forth and stopped. I mean, that one.

There you go. That's weird. That's weird, right? Because you, you couldn't throw chalk against a wall and make it do that. And it, like, didn't hit and stop, it went, bang, bang, bang, bang, all around my room and then stopped right on the sill. And then my mom was like, it was the cat. I'm like, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, it was the cat, the ghost cat? That made a different cat, a real, real cat. Okay, so you did have a cat. We had a cat, but it was not the ghost cat. The ghost cat was different.

Ghost cat. That's how I knew I was going to be a vet, the ghost cat. When did you know that you wanted to work with animals and not just ride on top of them? Two. That was good. Did you have tons of pets? I had a horse, so I grew up riding at Foxfield and Westlake. And they have a lease program, so I was able to lease horses until I went to college.

Is that affordable? leasing a horse, I know nothing about this. It is and it isn't. It's better because for somebody who's like developing rider, like how I was, when you lease, you have the opportunity to have a horse for a year and then you may potentially outgrow that horse's abilities. Then you can lease another one. What's a lease cost for just a mid-range horse?

Oh, it's very wide. Okay. What's the cheapest I can, what's the cheapest sway back that I can rent for lease? What can you get them into for a good price? Write a number down on the, let me know if I can beat it. No, honestly, I'm just curious. Yeah. So the cheapest thing you do is called a feed lease, where you basically just take over the care of the horse.

They let you have it for a while and you pay for their food and stuff. You don't get to ride it? No, you get to ride it. Okay. Yeah. They're like, we can't take care of it anymore. Can you take care of it? Sure.

Which happens a lot in these rich Southern California communities where people have horses and they don't really want to do any of the work with them. With rich Southern California communities, you're paying a lot for those horses. Okay, forget those then. But it's just like, I don't know, I want to know, am I spending 20,000 a year, 5,000 or 100,000 a year? So it's super variable. Like, I know a horse that's leased right now for $100,000 a year.

That seems high. So, yeah, that's the higher end, like a good show horse. But if you want just like a good trail horse that you can go out, you might pay them like 500 bucks a month and feed and board. 500 bucks. Wait, and I have to pay for the food? Yeah. Is that expensive?

The food right now is probably 400 a month. Good grief. so much work. That's the problem. It is a lot of work. Yeah, there's a barrier of entry, we'll say, to getting into the horse world. Would you consider yourself a horse girl? I would. Okay. Let's just call it as it is. What is it about girls who love horses that makes people hoist the red flag? It's such a good question. Because we're all a little bit crazy. I'll just be honest with you. But you just like the, but you just, but you love the horses so much. Yeah. I mean, there's really something about horses. They're just a really unique animal. They're my favorite animal to work on too in

like the veterinary profession. Are they hard to work on? Yes. Yeah, you have to be very specific with how you work on them because they can be so dangerous. So when you get injuries with horses and farm animals, they're really, they can be catastrophic injuries rather than the like really frequent injuries that you get in small animal, like bites and things like that. When you get injured with large animal, it's like a career ending catastrophic incident. Does that ever happen to any of you or your employees? No, knock on wood. It has not. I mean, not catastrophic. Are you, you're just extra careful. You just don't want to get,

see, I don't like to ride horses, but I like to look at them. They're beautiful, yeah. Yes. You went to the University of Guelph? Yes. Go, what, Bulldogs? We were the stags. Each year that you're there in veterinary school, it's Ontario Veterinary College at the University of Guelph. And each year you vote on your color and what your animal is going to be. So the University of Guelth changes their mascot every year?

Just the vet school. Each year was making it more difficult. How did you know about this school? How did you find out about this school? It's one of the prominent schools in North America. Got it? Yeah. I've never heard of it until today.

When I was there, it's beautiful. It's like all brick buildings. It's the oldest veterinary school in North America. When I was there, it was a fourth best school in the world. In the world? How did they come up with that? Test scores. Best score in the world.

Huh. All right. Black and white. Walk me through vet school in Canada to owning your own mobile practice in Malibu. So Canada was four years. Then I did a year internship afterwards just focusing on horses, which you're a veterinarian, but you're working very closely with mentors and you're basically their slave labor for a year. It's the same as like an MD.

Then I went out and worked in a practice for four years that was multiple veterinarians, only equine. During that time, I married my husband Greg, and he's very entrepreneurial-minded, and it was his idea to start the business. So the two of us... Was it his idea, or did he gaslight you into believe in it was his idea? And he's just taking more credit. I don't know.

Something I would do. I would say we came across it together, but he was the push to make it happen. Okay. Like I always knew that I wanted to, but I'm like down the road sometime, and he's like, let's go for it. Let's do it. its time. And immediately a success or a struggle? It was pretty quick. We opened the same week of the COVID shutdown, which we thought- Was that bad or good for you? It was good because what were those like essential personnel? It's like doctors, firefighters, and vets were like essential personnel.

I think you should know what it is if you were claiming that you were one of them. I'm essential personnel. And no one wanted to go anywhere. Explain why the demand for chicken doctors exploded. During COVID, everybody started their COVID project. And a lot of people started chicken coops as their COVID project. Oh. So there's a ton of backyard chickens, which is what we call it just when you have a little coop in your backyard. Mine's in my front, but don't judge. Yeah, COVID happened. How come we don't know chickens gender right away? It's just really hard. Everything is hidden, so it's just really hard to tell. But can you figure it out? You can figure it out. But the crazy thing is they did a study with people who are in hatcheries that are sexing chickens.

and they found that it's basically a vibe that they have. I'm not kidding. Like a scientific study, they pick them up, they're like, check to do the thing. This one's a rooster, and those people are 99% correct. Other people that will go in there and try to sex the chickens, not nearly as good. Well, who are these people that know chicken vibes? They work in hatcheries and in the poultry industry, and that's what they do is like sexing chickens. What a weird gift to have.

It's weird. It's kind of cool, but there's no science about it. I was so furious that we got chickens. And then I fell in love. I love having chickens now. Like, it's very therapeutic and peaceful to sit out there and just watch and walk around. Yeah. I enjoy it.

I feel the same. I have chickens, too. After Colonel Sanders and those homophobes at Chick-fil-A, what is the number one killer of chickens? Merrick's disease. Ah. My chickens get so scared if you pull up now. They're like, oh, no.

Which one of them? They do not. I'm not. Your trucks are pretty. Did you pick those out? It was a combination of Greg and I that picked him out. So he's firefighter and paramedic. I basically told him this is all the stuff that I want on my rig,

and he worked with the builder and designed the way that our rigs are now. And you say the word rigs? I probably just because from the fire. Okay. Does he force you to wash it constantly too? Do you guys have, like, take care? It does get cleaned. We do have people.

that clean it for us. Oh, you guys don't do it together. Do your team doesn't do like sexy calendar shoots? Good idea, though. I'm just saying. If it's going up for firefighters. Australia firefighters, but it'll be us with like weird animals. So what do you guys work on?

What are your specialties? We work on anything you'd find out of farm. Horses or what you kind of, is your bread and butter to begin with? Right when we opened, I was solely equine for a while. Mm-hmm. And then right as we opened, I branched out into doing all farm animals, which I really enjoy working on like goats and pot bellies and other farm animals, but horses are my primary.

And the need for a farm animal vet in our area was really high. So right when we opened, word got out that we would do those animals, and I was doing 70% farm, 30% horses. And now we've developed our team large enough so that we have, I've got another veterinarian that will do a lot of the farm animal, and then I can kind of refocus back on the horses. But to answer your question, basically anything you find on a farm. Do you take insurance?

Yes, but the insurance is a little bit different. It's usually the owners will pay and the insurance will reimburse them. But a lot of the horses are insured because we have horses that are half a million dollars. When you see one of those that cost a bazillion dollars, like, oh, that's neat. It's really neat and they're beautiful and they're just exquisite. But they've had a, it's a sad life. No, it's a wonderful life. Well, I mean, they don't get to just go out onto the sunset strip and party.

Do you know all the local vets in the... area? Do you guys clash? Is there competition? Are you friendly? We'll say we're mostly friendly, but we all work together really well, and we share cases. So it'll be routine, especially on like, we'll say in a horse barn. There'll be one vet that'll do their hawk injections or whatnot, and then one vet that'll do their vaccines. And I do a lot of dentistry work. So one vet, it'll be me doing dentistry work, and we all work together and collaborate. What do you do with the teeth? It's called a float, where the way that horses teeth grow, they're constantly erupting throughout their life, and they get these sharp points.

They'll be off. They'll get a wave shape to their teeth. So we go in and file them and correct it. Do you put them under for that? We sedate in what they stay standing up. How do you sedate someone and stay standing up? They just know not to fall? Horses in particular can lock their back legs so they stay standing.

They call it a stay apparatus. Can you really tell how old a horse is by looking at its teeth? Yes, yeah. How close to like the actual age? Within a couple years. Once they turn eight, then. It's within a couple years, but you can pretty much tell until they turn eight. And then once they hit 20, you're just like year old.

A horse can go to 30? Yeah, average is 25. In the wild, much lower. Much lower. I think it's 16. It's nice that one animal thrives in captivity way better than most. It's nice. Do you deliver animals constantly?

Yeah. Is that fun? The real answer is no, because the only time that we get called out to a delivery is when there's a problem. Right. they can do it naturally until they can't. Yes, and when they can't, it's usually, like, catastrophic. With a horse, it's catastrophic. With a cow, like, we can, and ruminants, we can try to manipulate them a little bit better than we can with the horse.

There's just less time with the horses, but with the other animals, we can manipulate them. And, like, I was on one a couple months ago where we manipulated the cow, and then we actually had to hook the baby up to the tractor, and the tractor pulled it out. And it was successful. The noise that it must have made just bothers me. the last part. But when it's a success, it's super fun. Like when there's a problem, especially like a common one that we see is goats

because the common thought is that goats can just breed and have babies and be fine. But you can't breed a little animal with a big animal because then the babies will be too big. So we often have pet goats here that are like pygmies, Nigerian dwarfs. They're really small, 100 pounds and less. And then they'll breed with a big buck,

which is just an intact male goats called a buck. And then their babies are too big to come out. So we have to manipulate them, You see sections and things are they doing? Are they breeding them on purpose? Most of the time it's just that they don't know. Like the owners don't know. Should we be getting them neutered?

Do you have, you neutered goats? Oh, 100%. Yeah. You neuter all animals? Yeah. All right. Snip all of them. Here's a morbid question.

I don't know why I smile when I ask. I'm ready. When a horse passes, dies, yes. What do you do with it? Okay. I'm going to be really honest and it might be really gross. Oh, I can handle gross. Okay.

So there's a service. His name is Mike. He's with dignified animal disease. That's the service. Mike. Mike, we call Mike up. And he has a truck with a hoist that they will chain the horse up, hoisted into the truck. And then they'll take them to, my terminology is the communal animal burial in Simi Valley.

But it's a part of the dump that has only animals. And then they'll dump the bodies there. or you can get them cremated the same way that you can cremate your dogs and cats. Yeah, not the same kilm. How big is that thing? It's huge. It's huge. Yeah.

And then when you get the ashes back, it's like a box that's... Yeah, I don't... That's too many. You know, you can just give me a handful of my horse. I don't need all of them back. I just want the tail. Yeah, just the tail. We do, actually.

We cut, most of the time we'll cut the tails and the owners will keep the hair and the tails. Yeah. And horse people, am I right? We're all weird. I said it. I was honest. What about, can I save money by taking animal drugs? A lot of them are the same. Do you do that to your kids?

No. It's illegal. I know it's illegal, but you don't have to admit it, but you could give me like, occasionally. I started taking my dog's heartworm. You did. Are you serious? No, of course. You would, okay, no joke, though, when the ivermectin thing was exploding and everybody was taking ivermectin and the thought that it was going to cure everything.

Right. A lot of people. Sure. So we could not get ivermectin for the animals because they were holding it at stores. We couldn't order it because so many people were abusing it. And the people were getting sick because they were taking the horon concentrated ivermectin made for cows that you pour down their back like a flea and tick treatment. Yes. They were ingesting that.

Oh, these guys. All the time. Weekly people were like. It's just men, right? It's just men that do that stupid stuff. It was mostly men. Yeah, of course. Sorry.

No, I don't apologize to us. Like literally weekly people were like, you got Ivermectin on your truck? Oh, gross. I didn't just say no. They were coming up to you. They were going to hit you up. It's for the animals. It's for the animals.

Does being able to treat a variety of animals require a lot of different training? Yes. How different are the internal workings of a horse versus, I don't know, me? They're pretty different. Oh. So all of the farm animals are pretty different. The things that are the most similar are goats, sheep, and cows. They're pretty much like goats and sheep are basically mini cows.

But the horse is different. And then a pig is different. And then they all absorb medications differently. And you can use different medications on each species. I got a pig. Now, I don't know how much bigger he's going to get. I haven't been able to pick him up in maybe five months. He's got, I mean, he maybe 70 pounds, 60 pounds.

That's my guess. My guess is he's 55, 60 pounds. How old is he? I need some three. Oh, okay, he's going to stay small. Yeah. Yeah. I think his parents were like 50 pounds right around that mark.

That's great. That's small. Well, it's not small. 50 pounds, when he's running at you, it's a little scary sometimes. And how often do I need to clip these hooves? They're starting to look like, I don't know if you know the iron chic, but he used to wear a funny boot. Is that bad if I don't get these hooves? You do need to get them trimmed?

Yeah. So it depends on how. I do. Yeah. All right. So you don't think my pigs can get much bigger. That's good. Because I can't handle it.

Oh, and to answer your question, six months to 12 months, depending on how much they wear down their feet for their trimming. Oh, I've flown over that amount. Hey, what about pigs getting lonely? My pig seems to be fine, living alone. Yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Yeah.

But he also plays with my dog every day. Yeah, as long as a pig is not alone alone, very commonly they're fine. But everything that you read will tell you otherwise, I've had many times where people will add another pig thinking that they need a friend and it's terrible. They fight, they don't want to be together and then they have to house them separately and they got two fighting pigs.

I love this. It's great news, Katie. Good stuff. This is exciting. You know, ask me weird questions about your pig's weird penis or something? Oh my goodness. Why does my pig's penis look like it looks? I didn't know that before I had a pig.

So there's different types of ejaculators. One is friction and one is pressure. So with a pig, it's a pressure. So it fits into the cervix and then the cervix is tight. Rather than a moving in and out where you would get friction, it just locks in and then ejaculates. So it's a perfect fit in with the female cervix. Like a transformer. Like a transformer.

Horrific. It is a horrific. You know, what's more horrific is the amount, which you probably know, although your pig was little. Yeah, it was little. But it was just constant. It's so much. It was spraying on you. If you pick them up and start,

old, it was like, you're just sprayed everywhere. Like a farmhog, an adult farmhog, can produce 500 mills at a time. It's a half a liter. Yeah, that's beautiful. Are you kidding me? Oh, it's the grossest thing I've ever heard. It's a lot. A lot.

It's a lot. Yeah. Peter North. Think about that. I mean, picture of a liter fluid bag. I know what a liter is. I'm thinking of a bold Pepsi 2 liter bottle. Oh, yeah.

Getting into six flags for half off. Oh, and have a fun fact about pigs. So if your pig gets out and starts living off the land, it only takes them two weeks to revert back to being feral, where they'll start growing bigger tusks, they'll start showing other, like, wild boar things, two weeks. It's like the movie Castaway. Just immediately turn into a monster living off the land.

So that means if I do get sick of my pig, I could just open the door. Well, then a mountain land's going to eat it. Well, not if he makes it two weeks. If he makes it two weeks, he has a fighting chance. That's a test. I like it. That's a pretty good fact.

What's the most exotic pet you've been called to treat? Zonky, which is a zebra donkey. Oh, man, these people are fucking Frankenstein in these animals. Yeah. A zonky. Yeah. Is a zebra donkey. Donkey.

Donkey. Oh, we've got to get a zonky. Don't do it. No, no. They're terrible. They're mean? Yeah. Lama.

and alpacas, you dealing with them a lot? Yes, I just got spit on yesterday. Do you like them? I do like them. Was that biolama or an alpaca or was that a different... Unrelated. It was an angry client. It was an alpaca.

Yeah, the spit, it tastes terrible. I got spondry. Why did you take... Once you get spit on, that's unfortunate. Once you taste it, that's on you. It tastes terrible. Uh-huh. An alpaca spit on.

Let me say what you want about that. It makes your day work so much better than 99% of the rest of the people that come home from work. I think so. I mean, being outside is a major plus for me. Yeah, and getting spit on by an alpaca is pretty cool. What are you supposed to do when there's a mandatory evacuation and you've got a farm full of animals? You have to be ready. You have to be ready.

So we see that all the time. Because we work with the county, we cross fire lines and we will help with evacuations. we, like, I've myself evacuated a bunch of horses and pigs and whatever, ducks. You have to be prepared. And then there are a lot of people, the community comes together in a really beautiful way, where pretty much there's always somebody that will be able to come in and get your animal if you don't have a trailer. So Ventura County has an organization that will come in there and they're all certified and whatnot that will help you move your animals out and they'll have trailers. But am I legally supposed to, like, load up my chickens?

It's your choice, yeah. Okay, but my choice doesn't mean I legally have to then. You do not legally have to. I don't know that I want. You can't not load your chickens up. Are you kidding me? I have kids that are annoying this shit out of me. Now you want me to have a bed full of chickens too in the truck?

Oh, this is awful. Yeah. So when the most recent buyers were going on, we actually had a lineage of people that were offering up their homes for animals like that. So they were calling into us and saying like, Oh, just put their barns, their stalls or whatever. Yeah, their backyards. Open their door to chickens.

Tell me about the charity that you and your husband started to help. Was it just 16 and 17-year-olds? 16 through 18. 16 through 18. So it's called the Nent Foundation. We basically started it because I was seeing animals that were dying without seeing vet care because there are so few large animal veterinarians. And we looked at the whole industry and said,

how can we fix this industry? And really it comes down to we need more vets. We need more large animal specific. There's enough veterinarians coming out of school to fit the need, but there's so few large animal veterinarians coming out that I'll give you some stats. I don't want to bore you. I'll cut out the boring part. Each school graduates anywhere from like five to ten large animal vets a year.

And there's somewhere around like 26 veterinary schools in the U.S. Okay. Three years out, 70% of the. those vets will go into small animal based off of lifestyle or they get injured or they need more money, any number of reasons. They realize they don't like being outside. What a weird thing to realize. All right. So 70% of those people are gone within three years. So there's a very small amount of people that actually make it through their career doing large animal. And that number is equine and production mixed. So anyone who works on a large

animal is that number. It comes out to about one vet per state. So now you're trying to churn them out? Yeah. So we created this structured program where it takes 16 to 18 year olds through a basic like vet knowledge. They get hands on knowledge. We partnered with Underwood Family Farms in Moore Park so that they can learn how to handle farm animals, how to give shots, everything from like where their flight zones are, how

you take care of them. You don't make those kids do that thing where they put the big glove over the huge penis. No. Okay. Yeah. You ever been involved in that? Yes. Yes, I have too many times.

What's it smell like? I mean, it all smells the same. Okay. It just seems horrific. It's dangerous. Yes, it also seems extremely. It's very dangerous. It does seem dangerous.

How long have you guys been doing this? So we started the foundation about four years ago. Okay. And initially it was to raise money for a hospital for large animals, which is still our ultimate goal, is that we want to have a hospital. A lot of the large animals that are... A horse hospital? A horsebital. That's great.

So our hospital is going to be able to take care of all farm animals. Because right now, the only, if you want to do advanced diagnostics and things for farm animals, you have to go up to Davis to do it. There's nothing in Southern California if you want to MRI or cow. And I don't even know where Davis is. Where's Davis? It's in Northern California. Like, ugh. It's like an eight-hour drive.

You got to. I know. How long is that by horseback? Five days. Okay. So it started with that and then developed in. to the more educational side where we're like, let's inspire the next generation of veterinarians. So we take these, right now it's all women, but it's for women and men, anybody who wants to be.

Why is it all women? Why does it just churn out so many alt women? Yeah. And, you know what you're talking about? Yes. The interesting thing, too, is that most alt people go to small animal. Yes. Large animal is more cowgirls? Cow girls? Yeah. What do they call those things? A buckle bunny? A buckle bunny? I don't know. They do. Yeah. Are you considered a buckle bunny? No, I think a buckle bunny is someone who, like, chases the rodeo cowboys. Okay, got it.

Yeah. Were you into cowboys? No. Is your husband a cowboy? No. He's not. He's a city slicker? He's a city slicker.

Yeah. Yeah, I forced him into the ranch life. You know where your bread is buttered. Yeah. Have you ever had to make the phone call like, hey, this is not a safe place for this animal? Yes. You have, do you have the authority to take the animal? I don't, but I work with, like,

County in Ventura County. So I'm the contracted large animal vet for both counties. So whenever they have a situation where they need large animal vet assistance, they'll call me to help them. Have you ever been like, oh, I think this guy might be having physical relations with this goat? Yes. You've seen it. Oh, that's amazing. Wow. How did you know? How did you know? It's a vibe, man. It's a vibe, yeah. It's like the same as the chicken lady they can tell. You're just like, yeah, the guy's touching that goat a little awkward. That is really crazy. That's not common, though.

No, no, not common at all. And that actually was like someone who called us and was like, I think this is happening there. So it was not like, I didn't like walk in and like, oh, my God. Was it like happening? I'm going to push. Was it happening like one person was doing this or it was like this was set up to be a place for this? One person was doing it. Oh, okay.

Well, there's always one bad egg. Apple. I don't know. What's the expression? Probably Apple for this one. Probably Apple. What's worse is that one? We'll be right back.

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to work on farm animals, the harder it was for me to separate pet food. So it wasn't, I don't have a big, like, political ideal about it. It was more so just for me and my like mental state with the animals. I don't eat chickens and turkey because I have those as pets and I can't mentally separate it. I have no problem mentally separating the chickens. I do. I would never eat my chickens. I eat chicken. I eat pork. You eat pork still? Hold on. I never, I had given pork up for 20 years and then I had children and they eat everything and then leave everything. And I'm just this person from the generation where I can't leave a breakfast burrito on the, so then I honestly, started eating bacon again because my children would leave it on their plate.

And you're like, oh, it's taste so good. And I'm like, well, I'm not going to waste it. It wasn't for me originally, but now. But anyway, yeah, I'm not going to eat my own pig. Right. I don't eat pork anymore either. Everybody that's on the show gets a gift. It's just junk that's around my house.

So don't get excited. What's that? I brought you a gift. Oh, I'm going to go first. This first gift, oh, this is good. You're going to love this. But I figure you have dirty feet. And I don't ask about your politics.

But somebody gave me this and it says it says if you voted for Trump and can read this You're too close to my house now the thing is as much as I hate as much as I hate Trump I hate words written on stuff in my house so I was like I don't want that but I figure you've got dirty feet I'm sure you'll have use for that you're gonna put that on the floor you're gonna love that This again more words I don't I don't want this but my my pets make my breakfast Somebody thought that was a cute idea. They do make my breakfast. This has got horseshoes on it.

This is from Aspen. I don't know. I've never won any. Has anyone worn it? No, no one's worn it. It's a hat. They gave it to me. I just did a festival there.

They gave me a hat. I'm like, I'm not wearing that. It has horseshoes on it. It's weird. This, I figure your house, this is not nice to say, but I don't mean it that way. I'm guessing sometimes you bring your work home with you, i.e. You stink to high heavens. So I put on my clean boots today.

I always get candles. in my green rooms, and that's how I get candles, but I don't, sometimes they take liberties on things like sugar cookie. I don't want that. You're going to love it. This is actually really thoughtful.

Thank you. This one has horses on it. I do stink. Look at this. This has horses on it. I love horses. $38? Who prices something $38.95?

This one must be, that's not bad. I don't hate that one. Are you sure you want to give it away? Yeah, of course. Every show I do, my rider, has two local. candles in it. So I just get after a year of doing

like 100 shows, that's a lot of candles. What made you want to put candles in your writer? Well, I like the, I like candles. I like the smell of it. Well, I have one. I usually have one burning in the green room the whole time I'm there because I don't want the regular bright lights on and then I take one or two home.

But anyway, again, there's just candles that I don't like. Oh, look, I give you that. I hate that. My wife always sticks these things everywhere in the house. Because she thinks it's cute. Yet all we do is light them with lighters. Oh, really? You have an extra, this thing around?

I don't want that. Your son hasn't figured out how to light these yet? No. My daughter lit. I got to hide these. Is she in a pyro face? My little menace. She's a little pyro? She lit. Here, get all this off. Don't scratch the table.

Is this a gift too? That's not really a good. Just, you can have it. Just to store all your candles. Thank you. I have so many gifts that I got a store now. There's a candle lit right here. Oh, wait. I have something else for you. This is so stupid.

But you don't eat bacon, but it doesn't matter. The Bacon Festival, we talked about it one time on the show, and they just sent us all these shirts from the Bacon Festival. No way. Yeah, and I figure you give these out to some of those farm people that you deal with, but now it's just a box of bacon stuff. You'll love it. I can. Blue River. Look at this.

It says bacon. You can give it to people that own a pig. They'll be happy. Bacon, buddy. It doesn't matter. You're going to love all that, too. It's so cute. This is the rule in the show.

Oh, I love this. That was good. Yes. Okay. Do you want your gifts? Yes. What do you have? Well, it's in your pocket?

I had to hide it because your dog will chew it. That's fair. Was it a lip balm? There's three things in here. What is this? It was with my lip balm. That is the tip of a goat's penis. Get out of here.

You've wanted one of those. I bet you did. You got it. So male goats will get urinary blockages because the way that their penis ends, it's called the pizzle. but it's a urethral process. The pizal. Very skinny.

And if they get a bladder stone, it can get stuck there, and then they can't urinate, and it's a true emergency that can be fatal if you don't fix it. So one of the ways that we do that is we sedate them, and we have to actually take the penis out of the sheath that it lives in, and you cut that urethral process off, the pizzo. I mean, such a small amount to cut off. And that's the stone inside the pizel. What's the thing sticking out of the stone?

That's the pizzole itself. It's the dried tissue. Oh. That's neat. Pizzle. That sounds like what Snoop Dog would call his penis. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. I can't wait to know what I'm touching here then. By the way, I have to comment. That one you have to taste. That one you have to taste. It's been in your pockets. They're so warm. You're welcome.

All right. What is, what is, oh, is this going to be horrific as well? These are horse teeth. Oh, wow. I almost brought you a pig tooth because I knew that you had a pig, but I was like, You'll have your own pig teeth pretty sweet. This is a horse? So those are two horse teeth.

That's not a healthy horse tooth. Right. Right. I had to extract them. So that one just looks kind of green just because I cleaned it with the green fluid. But this is what a more normal one looks like. And then you have a more diseased one where the root is really bulbous. Oh, that's diseased?

Mm-hmm. So this was buried? This was like where it was. Yes. Yeah. Was that just filed down or is that you just cut off some of it? That's just normal wear and tear. That's the regular.

chewing edge. Just from eating hay all day? How do they get so big just eating hay? You ever, if they ever ask yourself that? It's their hind gut. What's the hind gut mean? Their colon is gigantic and it ferments and it breaks down the hayes into digestible quality that we can't.

So that's how they seem, it's kind of same with the cow, but it's their digestive tract's very different. But yeah. This is disgusting. I thought you like it. I mean, I like it. I'm happy that I learned the word Pizzle.

I brought you more gifts. What are What else do you? Because I know that you like shirts With words on them Oh God Well words, it depends on what the words are What do these say?

It's my company Oh, that's nice That's no Oh, it's a 50-50, I love a poly cotton blend It just makes a shirt softer It's nice Now I'll cut the tag off of course But I brought a bunch of sizes

So that you get Everybody can have one Yeah Look at this The small one is for you What? I like green Or green or blue is going to be the one

I'm going to take. Okay, good. I don't know which sizes I brought. I'm not going to, that doesn't matter. It's a large. This one's large too. Mm-hmm. This is lovely.

That's very nice of you. Look at you. All right. Good job. Hey, uh. Katie, thank you for being on the show. Thank you. Appreciate it.

I want to thank Dr. Nenn for being on the show. That was awfully kind of her to give us some swag and some teeth. Mm-hmm. The teeth were disturbing. I think I'm ready to bury the hatchet. for her killing two of my chicks. Yeah. All right, well, we got to do some plugs.

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What are you going to do with that five? Yeah. But Eddie, on the other hand, I'm going to put your good use. He's going to put his kids through college. My first farewell tour, tickets to see Eddie and I, all of 2026, on sale now. It's been brought to my attention, Eddie. Someone else has my first farewell tour, legendary comedian Jeff Allen. Now, before I sincerely apologize,

maybe our tour name was out first, but regardless, I want to remind him that this was named by a fan member on our show, and I'm positive. that our fan member is an honest person, probably stole it. Well, I'm not changing it now. You know, the tickets have been printed. Right. But when you're purchasing tickets, make sure you're purchasing for the correct. Listen, if you go see me or if you go see Jeff Allen, you're going to have a good show.

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You guys know Eddie looks exactly like Fred Durs now, right? Get your motherfucking hands up. They're interchangeable. They're interchangeable. Eddie and I still listen to Fred Durst every day. We kind of, I mean, every day, we do listen to them. Okay? There's only one reason we wake up, and that's for the nookie.

The what? The no nookie. So you can take your cookie and stick it up your yeah. That and then we go right into a disturbed. All right, let's hear. Let's do they love me. All right, this is a love me from Lauren via email. Oh, an email?

An email. An email, buddy. Who's email accounts did it go to? The show's got an email. Does the show have an email? It does? People. Why don't you send us some more emails?

Okay. All right, here it is. I love your show. You're so funny, so quick-witted, fun, enthusiastic, and upbeat. It's a pleasure to listen to you talk on your own with your lovely buddies on your show, with your guests and with your dog. Keep it up. Oh, I mean, Eddie.

Gushing. You're... You're trolling me right now. That put Carl and I to sleep. You think I'm writing these fake ones? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying you're picking ones that you know I'm going to think are stupid. That is bonkers.

Why would they write an email to me just that long? She loves you. Just really likes the show. Well, that's, I mean, that's nice. Right. A little concerning. Well, she used all the letters. Give me the I love me not so I can get grounded.

it again. Okay, this is from Plains Are Neat. I saw you in Evansville, L.O.L. You walk funny. I mean, I don't take that as a, they love me not. They may be, they're worried. They walk funny. First of all, I'm a comedian. Uh-huh. You went to see. By the way, how much more are we going to talk about Evansville?

This shit town has never been promoted more than it is on my podcast. Um, I just like, I didn't recommend that pizza. Did he really, he backed, out of it. No, he said he didn't recommend the pizza, he recommended the place.

He recommended the stromboli pizza and said we'd never taste anything better. I don't know. Yes, he did. Now, I'm confused him. No, fuck off. No, Hodge, you did too. That is nuts. Now, second of all,

I want to point out that this is not going to love me not. They came to my show, so they're obviously fans. Right. They said, L.O.L. laughing out loud, okay? Yeah. And I say, I walk funny. I do walk funny.

I think it's just I'm just awkward it's just such a weird thing to walk on stage I'm always like uncomfortable I agree with you 100% The walk is too far You know it's like all right thank you They're clapping I've never felt secure in that

You know like when you see like Eddie Murphy And like oh coming out in sexy leather pants When I was a kid like there that's what you're supposed to But that's just complete garbage to me The stage. So, no, I admit that I walk funny. Some people have criticized my posture. My posture is perfect when it comes to actually sitting up.

Sitting or standing. I hold my head right. But I admit, I have a weird gait. I've always had a weird gait. My brother mocks my gait. Pierre hates the way I jog. He does. He filmed me the other day jogging.

Just got on his e-bike and rode next to me while Carl and I were jogging. For the little tips of how to look better when you enjoy it? No, just to make fun of me. And then he'll zoom in on it and then he'll send me like my legs in a tight shot. Yeah, he thinks your legs are funny. Yeah, well, fuck him. See you next week.