Tosh Show - My Oscar-Nominated FX Makeup Artist | How Mike Marino Crafts Hollywood's Most Insane Transformations

Episode Date: April 28, 2026

Daniel sits down with top prosthetic makeup designer Mike Marino, who has transformed actors for over 100 shows and movies including SNL, Coming 2 America, and The Penguin. Join our Patreon for exclusive content: http://patreon.com/toshshow

Which are you more proud of? Winning an Emmy or losing an Oscar. Tosh. Tosh Show for a show. Hey, welcome to Tosh Show. I want to thank all the sponsors, the national and the international ones. Mm-hmm.

I want to thank Eddie for being here. You're welcome. You're welcome. Thanks for having me. My daughter has been sick. She had a fever. So yesterday, instead of her normal routine of going to preschool, I just held her.

And I just held her for the whole day. And I'm, I know it sounds cliche, but it was the greatest day ever. Just held her all day long. She just wanted to be held. She was just so sad. And I'm like, I get Munchausen syndrome now. Yeah. It makes, I get why people do, once they get clingy and needy, there's something

adorable about it. She said to me, I don't want to have any food. I say, oh, you don't have to eat if you're not hungry today. And, and she goes, I just want you to hold me. and I don't want any food. And I'm like, done and done. Perfect. That was the best day ever.

That's all you want from a woman. No food and just hold it forever. Okay. I didn't need to say that. That was a joke. And I don't think that the holding part. Your legs go to sleep. Yeah, that's funny.

Even a 25-pounder will put your legs to sleep. After a while, you're like, ugh. You can wiggle here or something. I don't, though. If she's comfortable, I don't move. I'll let my body parts just go dead. I was like, well, she actually did. You know, I gave her some medicine and she perked up for a bit.

And I said, well, do you want to go with me to the grocery store? Because she really does like to sit in a shopping car. She said, yeah, so we just, we went to a grocery store. And because my wife wasn't with us, we went to the grocery store to get milk. My wife said, hey, pick up milk today. And I said, done. but I just bought everything at a regular grocery store that would infuriate my wife as a bit. Like she never lets us have fun cereals or fun chips, you know, the Doritos.

I bought Pop-Tarts, microwave popcorn. You know, which kind of popcorn I got? What kind? Which everyone says like triple butter. Yeah. Just all, just disgusting. I just bought everything. because I know my wife won't throw it away once it's in our house.

Okay. She'll never buy it. She'll never let me buy it. But if I just buy it and put it in the house, we get to eat it now. You're not going to waste it. No, we don't waste. Good. I got some cereals.

I went with life, cinnamon life, honeynut Cheerios, apple jacks, cinnamon toast crunch. I don't know what else. You're putting together a cafeteria. Yeah. My wife, I sent a photo to my wife. I got milk. And she goes, what the fuck?

She goes, this looks like a photo from the 90s. You're like, isn't it great? It looks delicious to me and my son. We'll kill it. People complain about the groceries, but I don't get that. Because almost everything I got was free. Now, we use the self-checkout line, and I get frustrated because I don't know how to do things.

And so I just take it. I'm like, ah, I'll get them next time. I'm new. I'll tell you what's tough. That, would you like to donate to, whatever on the keypad in a self-checkout line. Like if you don't have somebody asking me, like, hey, would you like to spend an extra dollar to help children with bad cancer?

You know, if I don't hear something, if somebody's not putting that pressure on me, just to do it on my own, it seems almost unnecessary. There's no reward for saying yes. Right. Just the dollar? That's nothing. So I don't do it. Not in self-checkout.

I actually enjoy. the self-checkout line though i take my time i do it right and i'm not only do i not steal i'm honest about how many bags i use you got to pay for the bags right and if i double bag i count it twice and i and i have my receipt ready okay somebody wants to check it no one's ever checked it and i i think that i think that's what white privilege is yeah somebody doesn't take a uh highlighter and put a big check on our receipts nobody questions us unless you're leaving costco i haven't left costco in in a couple decades. They still do it.

They're still doing it? Yeah. Are they really reading the whole thing? Oh, yeah. You buying big ticket items at Costco still? No, we're doing diapers or... No, but electronics? You ever pulling off a big old 70-incher?

No. You ever carting out a surfboard? Nope. A tent? I pulled a big TV from there before. You pulled a TV? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I'm thinking about getting a tent. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm thinking about getting a nice tent. and surprise in the family with a backyard. We're going to sleep outside tonight evening. Okay. Good idea.

It'll be scary. There's a fire going. We can't get a fire going in fucking in Southern California in my backyard, you psycho. Yeah, just get a fire pit. Well, I have a fire pit. You just want me put a tent near it? Yeah. No, that's not soft ground.

Oh, you were saying put the fire pit up to scare out the animals. Yeah. I don't think a fire pit scares coyotes. Coyotes are scared of noise. I don't think they're scared of heat. I don't know. You get that fire crackling. It's not going to crackle.

It's a fire pit. Crackling is only fucking when you're actually burning something. You play a crackle sound on the Sonos. You want me? Oh, because now I've got to have a sonos. I got to put it on my deck right next to the fire pit. You want to make it feel like you're really out there. Now I've got to call the deck doctor up.

I've got to have them clean the deck. You guys are giving me more work. I just want to get a tent and have the family laid next to each other. What size tent are you going with? I don't know. A six person? Yeah, there you go. plenty of room

there you go you want a little extra room yeah well I'm excited about this idea I'll let you know if I do it I'll take some picks you guys gonna hunt well if we want to eat

yeah no I just think it'd be fun camp out with the family you know tell ghost stories you ever tell ghost stories with the kids man maybe when they're younger but not okay well here's the thing my son always says to me hey tell me a scary story

so last night I was like all right I just did I told him a scary story and the story ends with this kid whose parents I'm not gonna I was making it up as I went right but it ended up

with the kid's parents didn't believe him of what he was feeling under his covers and then he finally looked under his bed and there was a small dying man that had been reaching up trying trying to get help anyway my son

who's young and like he talks like a complete adult but he's still like a child like he jumped into my arms at the end of it and he's like he's talking to me like my wife he's going what is wrong with you

he's like why would you do why would you tell me that he goes I'm so scared right now he's like you have to stay in here for five more stories and they all have to be happy why in the world would you tell me story about this dying man underneath this kid's bed and

we were both laughing so hard but he was still genuinely scared and then I was like he's like I have to tell mom he did this and I go I know I know and I'm gonna get in trouble for doing it but but you kept telling you kept bugging me like tell you tell you scary stories so I did and oh my good it was so I was I had tears

in my eyes laughing so hard with him going he literally said This is how much sure he is. He goes, if you would have told me that story at one o'clock in the afternoon, sure. It was great. He's like, but you're going to say that right before I go to bed? Eh. With today's guest, though, I'm going to be able to up my game from a big camp out, scare.

Maybe I have him do me up right with the makeup. Enjoy. My guest today has transformed some of a Hollywood show. most recognizable faces. You've seen his work on the Batman, the Penguin, the Irishman, and every article around Halloween time that features Heidi Klum's costume that year. Please welcome award-winning special effects makeup artist Mike. Mike Marino, how are you? Hey, what's up, Dan? How you doing, man? I'm well, thank you. Are you wearing any prosthetics right now?

I am. It's in my pants, though, so you can't really tell. I mean, I tell you what, if you pulled your face off, I would be like, ah, pretty good job. Do you believe in ghosts? I think so. Okay, let me know when you're positive. You do? You ever had any encounters? I have, yeah.

Like as a child or as an adult? No, as an adult. I was sleeping in this bed. I was wearing jeans and no shirt. Do you fall asleep like that or are you just trying to be sexy? No, this was like 25 years ago. Okay. And I literally felt being slammed into my chest like an electricity.

And I woke up and I was like, what the fuck is this? And I saw a white blur. And the person I was with, I was like, what the hell? And she says, oh, there's a ghost in this house. It was an old Hollywood Hills house. And she said, oh, no, there's a ghost. Then she called a friend in this start speaking and so the language. And I was like, what the fuck are you doing?

What? And they're like, oh, no, we had it investigated in this house. And it was, you know, there's a spirit here. I'm like, well, thanks for telling me. It just went into my potty. I mean, had it ever done that to them before? Yeah, they had it ever done that to them before? I don't know in which way, but it was this really strange situation.

Were they hot? Pretty high, yeah. I mean, 30 years ago, hot went, but. I mean, I'm just guessing Hollywood Hills 30 years ago. You're sleeping in jeans? Yeah, it was. It was a weird thing. I had this, like, thing for a while.

I had to sleep in jeans. You grew up in New York. I did. But New York proper or, like, just the state of New York? Upstate a little bit, like half hour or north. Half hour? Yeah, half hour in North. You know, Rockland County.

You know where Bill Murray lives? I don't know, over there. Are your parents artists? No, they're not. What inspired you to want to get into this line of work? When I was a little kid, I was sitting in front of the TV when HBO came out. I think we're at the same age. I'm like almost 50.

I am 50. Yeah, well. You are much younger. No, we're the same age. So we remember when HBO first came out in like cable? They played like 10 movies. I just searched for the letters BN, brief nudity. So you were, so you know that.

The Scramble Channel where you just like press the button and like it kind of see like half the Scramble Channel. Like you just get a cup. The Scramble Channel. Scramble channel. That's good stuff. Okay, go on. So I saw The Elephant Man.

That was one of the movies I first saw when I was a kid and it was a black and white movie with Anthony Hopkins and this amazing makeup in it. And it was really like I didn't know what it was. I was so scared of it. And then at the same time, MTV first came out. Michael Jackson's Thriller was always on. So they would show Rick Baker doing the makeup on Michael Jackson. And then they would show like, you know, his makeup in the chair.

And Rick Baker was explaining, oh, hey, I'm doing this sculpture and doing this makeup and all this stuff. And I was totally obsessed with it. And this is again, now where VHS was first around and you were able to tape stuff off TV. So I taped that. And I was, you know, maybe five, six or something like that. And taped it and watched it over and over and over again. And I was like, this is, I'm obsessed with this.

Could you do the dance? I never attempted the dance. I don't know if I could do it. You weren't into the music aspect of it as much as you were. or the makeup of it all. Well, I love Michael Jackson. Dude, it's a total legend, you know, but, you know, I'm into Rick Baker. You know, Rick Baker was my idol.

You know, Rick Baker did thriller. He did naughty professor. He did coming to America. You know, he did all those things. And I was just really obsessed with that whole world. And at that time, Ghostbusters was around. Robocop was around. It was just like you're being bombarded with American cinema, which was like balls to the wall,

craziness. I mean, to have that clear vision, such a young age is kind of exciting. I think it's like complete isolation. Uh-huh. You know, so I was constantly learning in my own, making masks, experimenting, doing makeups by my friends. You never took any classes, though? No, I never did.

When I was out of high school, I sent a letter off to Dick Smith, who actually taught Rick Baker was his mentor. Dick Smith was the guy who did the godfather, the exorcist, taxi driver, ghost or all his movies, like in the 70s and 80s. I wrote him a letter. I found his address. I wrote him a letter. and I sent him my portfolio

and then he sent me a postcard and then he said, call me. And I said your postcard. What was on the postcard? It said, uh, thanks for your extensive portfolio. Please give me a call. All the best Dick Smith, except for dinner between 6.30 and 7.

What was the photo of that? Oh, yeah, the other side. It was my portfolio I'd sent and he wanted to talk on the phone after he saw it to review it. No, I meant the postcard itself. What was, there's a photo on the postcard, no? I think it was like a blank thing.

It just had an address on it. It wasn't anything fancy. It was no frills. I didn't know if he was like, like on vacation, it just like grabbed it from the shop. It was beach sandals. Atlantic City. I mean, a pre- YouTube era, though, to like self-teach yourself is pretty impressive.

It was library stuff. It was VHS tape, stuff I taped off TV. But like, and you could find, you could figure this stuff out. I just think it's impressive when anybody, like, has a desire to do something, but they don't have, you're not a nepo baby. So you just like figure it out yourself. Yeah. Yeah, it was just kind of like, I was into comic books and all that.

And I just was in that world in this beautiful time period of, like, you know, artwork. And your first big, like, TV gig was S&L? Yeah, it was SNL. And now that's a world where things are like, let's go, let's go, let's go. Yeah, that was serious. That was like my first introduction to like, you know, this is a job. Like I worked in a makeup company in my small town, which happened to be in my town called Maron makeup.

They made like all this clown makeup and all these things like that. And I worked there like after school and like the factory like putting bottles and machines and shit, you know? Like that was my first introduction of work, period, outside of my bedroom. Okay. And then it was SNL. So it's like I never really did a job other than makeup world, you know, makeup stuff. Did you get paid okay at SNL?

I can't remember. Okay. You know, there was a period of time where I started doing my own movies and stuff and I had a pile of checks on my, on my like nightstand in my parents' house. And there was like 300,000 plus dollars I never cashed. I was just like, whatever. I'll do that later. Like, I'm busy over here. Oh, look at this.

This is incredible. Yeah, it was just like totally zoned in. My mouth is a game. I'm just like, wow. No, I've never had checks. I was hardcore. I'm still hardcore now. I mean, I'm doing a couple movies.

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I don't have an agent. I have a PR person. Anybody. I mean, how did you guys find me? You know, like, I don't even know. That's also a fair question. You know? Did you always want to do special effects makeup versus just traditional makeup?

I never really did any traditional makeup. Okay. More of like a sculptor and, you know, artist, you know, as opposed to beauty makeup, even though I can appreciate what goes into that, but it's not something that I do. Do you focus mainly in the face, or do you say, I can do anything? Whatever.

Whatever's like, you know, special effect. Yeah. On body or whatever. What's the hardest effect to do? I think a realistic makeup is really hard to do because people know what that looks like. You know, like you can do an alien or whatever, and that's hard in itself.

But like if, you know, you do a makeup, that looks like supposed to be totally real, you know, and novice could see that it's fake if it doesn't look good. Even something like the penguin even, for instance, like, your borderline on, like, fantasy a little bit. I mean, it's just incredible what you did there. Thanks, man. I mean, I feel like I talked so many people into watching that show that would never have wanted to watch that show.

And then you're like, oh, this show is so fucking good. And it's so demented. It was a great show. And I think Colin is such an amazing actor. And I think he was able to explore beyond what he normally would being himself, you know? So it was like, he wore the makeup and I was like, shit, I'm this, like, weird gangster guy. I could do anything. He credits you for kind of making him find that character.

Yeah, I mean, it's like a band, you know. It's like he can't be Colin Farrell and be the penguin without, you know, looking a certain way. Did you have a direction going into it or did you just make it up yourself? Well, Matt Reeves was who did Batman. Uh-huh. Known to be working with digital stuff, but I think I opened his eyes to makeup in a way because you take someone so recognizable like Colin, who's very recognizable. You could see him a mile away, you know, like, you know who it is.

And then you change his identity so much to be. embodying a character that when he came on set for the first time no one knew who it was like at all everyone's like this is weird grip like saying hi to me

I don't know who this dude is he's weird and intimidating and they were like shit that's Colin Farrell you know but I think the direction really from Matt Reeves was he's a great director because he's not like

this is what I want you know it's like hey here's some ideas play around you know and it was like okay well I'm going to try something what I think would be cool and if you like it

we'll do it. You know, so my initial kind of idea of what he should look like was used in the film. And Matt was like, wait a minute, this is Colin. You're showing pictures of Colin. I was showing him like pictures of sculptures that I had done of the penguin on Colin's head. And I was like, I think this is what it should be. And he's like, so who is this person? And I was like, that's Colin. He's like, shit, that's Colin. Wait a minute. He's like processing, looking at the pictures. He's like, you could pull us off and it'll look real. I'm like, yep, we'll look totally real. let's test it. And if it doesn't look real, we'll change it, you know?

So we did a test and it was like, Collins' voice changed, his personality changed, just walk, everything. It was like crazy. It was like crazy. It's so good. But also, it's confusing to me as a person just from the outside where I'm like, we want to just hire somebody hideous instead of this good-looking movie star. Yeah.

But he is an amazing actor. And it's like, and it's sort of like a thing where why don't you just hire a murderer to be in a, you know, Jeffrey D. Gummer movie. I like that idea. Is your favorite genre horror movies or no? Not really. Okay.

I mean, I think... What's your favorite genre movie to watch? I don't know. I just want to watch something good. Okay. I don't know what it will be. Do you like stupid comedies? Yeah, I do.

Okay. I do. But can you watch a movie without being like, oh, they did a shitty job there? It's hard to go outside of, you know, actually be a viewer of the movie, you know, because you know every thing that's going on behind the scenes. So it's a little bit difficult to decipher. But when I am immersed, I know the movie's really good. Like if I watch like Terminator 2 or something, I'm like,

I know it's all fake robots and all this stuff like that. But like, the shit's real. It's done well. So you're buying it. Same thing I think what happened with Penguin is after the effect of like, oh my God, let's see this freak show that's Colin Farrell's face. And he looks like the penguin. After a while, you're like, shit, I buy this character.

It's real. It's a believable person, you know? How long did he have to sit in the chair? It was like two and a half hours all in. Every day he worked, he'd have to do two and a half hour. Every day. Is it hard to recreate your work every single day or does it get easier? Yeah, it's like, you know, just a little.

Or is it like, hey, fuck today, I didn't make him look exactly the same. Yeah, so it's hard, you know, it's human hands. So it's like, you know, the wig maybe like slightly to the left or like, you know, a little freckle is shifted or something, you know. Can you tell that, like, oh, I did this? Not really. Sometimes. Unless, you know, there's also stuff that happens to, you know, an actor. face, you know, they might have had a bad night or something and they're a puffy or something,

you know, and it's like they look slightly different or, you know, they scratch their face at night or whatever, you know, and it's like there's stuff you have to adapt to, you know. Two and a half hours, though, I'm, it's like any, any girl every day. Maybe. No, not the girls. I'm not the ones that I wanted to hang out with. But two and, I'm just, I'm going to say this honestly, like, you could offer me all the money in the world to do a job like that and say, oh, but,

every day you have to sit for two and a half hours. No, no, I can't do that. Like, I'm physically can't do it. If you were hired on like Batman or something and it's like, we need you to be the penguin, Daniel Tosh can't roll in and be like, hey, I'm the penguin. It would be goofy. I know. You know.

But I'm saying I can't, I couldn't do, I know that I can't do that. I can't let you work on my face for two and a half hours. Well, we should try. No. I can't. When anybody does make, it's my leaf, start touched around my eyes. I just am like, I don't like this. I don't like this moment.

It's not my. thing. I appreciate that, but see, that's why I get to still watch movies and enjoy them. Yeah. Because I don't, I'm really not an actor in any way. Yeah, but people can't do what you do. That's right. You know, they don't want to do what you do? You know, there's a certain... They want to, don't they, Ed? And I have to say about Colin Farrell in particular, like, that man is a patient person. I mean, to tolerate putting glue all over your face. And then acting all day in serious scenes. I agree with you. It's a lot. I know it's a lot. It's like a Zen. moment where you have to get to in your own self because you're sitting there and people are touching your face and you're you're encased in this stuff it does move and it feels real after while but you know it's not real you ever watch that scene on i think you should leave now what is

it carl havoc he's got all this like makeup on and he's just like he loses it he's like why the fuck's there's oh there's too much shit on me it's too much she just has a panic at that i never saw it you know that happened to jim carry on the grinch when rick baker had done like the grinch And he was in that makeup like 100 days or something. Like there was one day where he just couldn't take it anymore. And he just like ripped it off and like ripped the wig. And like then they had to send in like a Navy seal. And like to be like, this is how you have to, you know, change your mindset, you know, and all this stuff.

And then Ron Howard did the makeup himself and he's like, look, I'm in the makeup too, you know. So yeah, it was like after a while I think, you know, I mean, you're like mummifying yourself, you know. But something psychologically happens where you have to accept that this is the process. Not me. Not you. I choose not to. Well, you could be the riddler or something. I think you should be.

I'm not acting. You can't make a question mark on your chest, right around? I don't want to do riddles. How bonkers do you go around Halloween? I'm usually working with somebody at that point, mostly Heidi Klum, you know. Do you pitch ideas? Yeah, it depends. I mean, it depends.

Sometimes she has an idea. Sometimes I have an idea and, like, what's the coolest thing you could think of? Like sexy Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah, that would be a good one. Uh-huh. You have to peel his life. lizard head off, you know? When you're testing these things, do you coming out of pocket?

You paying for all these things ahead of time? It depends, you know? Okay. I mean, like, something like, Batman, there's so much work to be done that I don't want to wait for checks, so I'll just start doing stuff. Are your parents still letting those checks pile up at your house? They are, yeah. My dad just put a poor show.

I was wondering how. Is there a holy grail prosthetic application? you're itching to try. I really want to put you in a makeup now. No, no, no. That's not happening. People, they even pitched it. Like, oh, for this interview, I go, no, guys, I'm not doing it.

I get so frustrated. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of Best Movie Makeup? Rick Baker, Rob Botin, Kevin Yeager, Stan Winston. Kevin Yeager built, like, the Cripkeeper, you know, like I love that thing. Rob Boatine did all the stuff for the thing. I used to work for him. Rick Baker, like I said, I mean, he did Harry and Henderson's nutty professor coming to America and men in black like dude's the king you know

I had like I was obsessed with him as a kid you did coming to America too yeah the sequel did you have to do just as many did they have as many characters in the second one yeah was Arsenio in it too arcinio was in it yeah how many characters did he do I think he did three something like that he was clamoring to do more he's great Arsenio is awesome man I wish we could film the makeup trailer you know in the makeup trailer because it's like a comedy act all day you do this start doing makeup on him and he's telling jokes and all the stuff and it's just so funny. People feel the need a lot of times to talk to the artist, like vent. Do you get gossip and stuff like that?

I do, yeah, I do. Do you pretend to be a therapist or do you pretend to give a shit? Yeah, it's an interesting thing because I'm kind of like a psychologist in some weird way because I'm with that actor more than anyone on the movie. I'm more, I'm with them more than a director. I'm with them more than producers unless they go out outside of, you know, the, the movie. So I'm with them like for hours and a lot of the time, you know, we talk about personal things and issues come up and stuff and there's friendships after that form. And you

have to have a good relationship with that person because they have to trust you, you know, you're putting, you know, glue in their eyeball. You have dated anybody that's been in your chair? I don't know. What do you don't know? I don't know. I mean, maybe. Are you not supposed to right? Or are you? Is there a line that you're not supposed to date like somebody? I try to, you know, I'm professional as I can be. I think that it's professional, but it's like all of a Like you said, you're spending so much time with them. All of a sudden, you develop a real relationship. You've become friends later.

You know, actors have dated makeup people and hired people and stuff. I've tried to take a swing a few times. I mean, but, you know, work is first. I don't want to fuck that up, you know, so if it's something that happens later. I mean, I'm with someone now, so it doesn't matter. Okay. I'm speaking hypothetical almost. Come on, Daniel, you're fucking around.

Jeez, I just want to know that. You know, you guys, I think, have something going on. Eddie and I, for sure. Eddie, tell us a story. When you're putting makeup on Heidi's boobs, I just want to know if you're enjoying it. Yeah, well, it's great. I mean, and it's a weird thing. You know, when you're an artist, you know, I sound like an asshole.

But, like, you're, you have to study the human body. You know, you're looking at models and you're drawing stuff and you're seeing shapes and you're seeing things. And it's not exactly like, oh, my God, I'm so turned on. You know, I don't really go there. Okay, that's great that you don't. But here's what I call bullshit. Every photographer in the world ends up dating them. But the creepy losers that never got laid ever anyway.

That's fair. So it's kind of like. You're very good looking. Now, is that, has that been a hindrance to you in your career, do you think? Do you think it's like, people are like, oh, look at this guy. He's like a hot guy. Whatever, man. How dare you?

All right. Well, has it been a hindrance for you? Oh, for sure. You ever use your skills to pull pranks on friends? Always. Oh, I love it. Constantly. That would be fun.

I mean, less now because I'm busy with, like, movie stuff or whatever. But, like, back in the day, shit, man, we did everything possible. Wounds? make my friend up to be an old dude knocking on people's doors like falling down the mall like it was early jackass stuff it was like 90s jackass up

like I did it first you know like uh huh is making people look old is that is that hard it's the hardest thing to do it's not exactly my favorite thing to do because I've done it a lot but it's always a challenge I mean you're replicating something

that has to be completely believable what about young I'm making them look younger is that now AI or is that real hard to do you know you can't do it with makeup can you can in a certain aspect of it making someone like, you know, heavier or something.

But if someone's like 80 years old, you can't make them look young. It's just not possible. Well, see, I hope so, because then we can use some of these old actors and have them start playing some young roles. That'd be fun. No, I would say, like, you know, digital stuff is probably the best bet, you know, even AI or whatever. Is Blackface technically special effects makeup?

I don't know. I don't know. I never did it. So that's good. Well, you got through the 80s and 90s without. Not that blemish. Did you do Jiminy Glick? No, I didn't, but I love that.

I love that thing. I think Kevin Haney, who was an old Dick Smith protege, did that makeup on Martin, Martin Troy. But that makeup is fucking hilarious. That character's great. Yeah, it's good. See, you should do the next version. Oh.

You could make you like the melting Robocop guy and do interviews. Stop making me sit in a chair for so long. He did a movie called Inner Space. Back in there, you remember that? Yeah, yeah. Where his head's all shaking and going insane and all that. Like, that was my old boss Rob Boutin who built those heads. He basically built this thing on a paint shaker that, like, that, like, fucking made this fake head do all this stuff.

Uh-huh. It's an amazing effect. Like, I can't even figure out how it was really done, to be honest. It's so amazing. It's face splits and shit and does all this cool stuff. What film's special effects is so bad that it's good? Uh, like, gooies. Oh, I don't know gooies.

Was Plinda the Apes amazing for its time or no? I think the movie is so good. Rod Serling wrote it, you know, did the Twilight Zone. But just the makeup. It was innovative for its time in 68. Okay. I wouldn't say it could hold up now. No one.

But it's iconic looking. You know what it is and you're, you know, recognizable. What's your favorite film? Favorite film. I could give you like five, I don't know, the fly, Robocop, you know, and then you want to get all artsy or whatever. I mean. No, I don't want to get artsy.

I like the first two. No, Robocop fly, the thing. I think of it like this. Like, in an artistic sense, some of the most like beautiful performances and artistic, whatever, it's like, you could just watch it once or twice maybe. But like, Robocop, I could watch every day all day long. That scares me. What's the watching, you know, like, how many times do I want to watch something? It's how I have to judge, like, is it a good movie. But Amadeus is a great film. I don't know if you remember it. I just recently watched it. Let me tell you something about Amadeus that made me laugh. It's like my father's favorite film. And then, you know, he doesn't, my dad doesn't ask. for much in life, he knew that my new home had a theater room. And he was like, I just want to come to your house and watch Amadeus. And I said, great, Dad, we'll do this.

But I couldn't get the regular Amadeus. It was the director's cut. Oh, that's great. Well, here's where the problem is. The director's cut is like rated like a hard R. Now my father was a Presbyterian pastor. And so now there's just tons of like sex scenes that weren't in the original movie. I don't know, is it?

Yes, there was. And the director's cut. There was like nudity all over. But there was nudity when Salieri, like, says, you know, take your clothes off and then he kicks her out. That was always in it. I'm just letting you know the director's cut was way more uncomfortable for my father. And I was just like, Dad, thank you for letting me watch this soft porn with you.

This is great. But that movie's amazing because, F. Murray Abraham is in it, is in a Dick Smith makeup. That's the award that Dick Smith won is only Oscar, you know, turned F. Murray Abraham into old Salieri. he's like, oh, hunched over and telling the story playing the piano how he hates Mozart. Like, that's a whole makeup. And that's like one of Dick Smith's best makeup's ever done.

Have you seen Chad Powers? I have. Yeah, have. That's good. Yeah, it's cool. Did you like the bug scene? I don't remember. The bug scene where he's like, are you a bug man?

You're a bug man? He's like digging through the prosthetics and he's just like his face is all. That's a good scene. Anyway, talk about working with the weekend. Was he as boring in person as he comes across in every interview, music video, commercial, or Super Bowl half-time performance. You're fucked. He's cool, man.

Abel is awesome. He's like, you know, he's a movie geek, to be honest. I mean, and he, you know, he's an artist. Yeah. You know, whether you like it or not. I mean, he's an artist. He loves mean streets and films and all this awesome movies. He's got those cool shit in his house.

Just a ballpark. How many hours do you think you've spent applying makeup on people and chairs in your life? Thousands of hours, I don't know. I mean, just for the penguin alone. Percentage of your life, I bet it's, So calculated, I don't know, Eddie. Two and a half hours times 80 for just Colin Farrell. Wow.

How many hours of sleep do you get a night? Not enough. Five maybe. That's not enough at all. Yeah, it's really like a real, it's a hard thing for me, actually. Do you ever enjoy not working or no? Yeah, I try. It's hard.

You know, you've spent so many years trying to do this and you forget how to live. You know, it's a weird thing. You know, like, how do you cut it off? You know, I'm always thinking of like, what I'm going to do the next day? And I'm make sure I'm not like forgetting something. You know, it's like, how do you turn that off? I mean, even for you, how do you turn it off? It's been hard to like go walk in the park, you know?

Like, it's a hard thing, to be honest. How about the stress of your particular job in the scope of movie making or television where you're kind of the one that's always being screamed at to hurry the fuck up? No, if somebody screams me, I'll knock them the fuck out. Like, I don't really put up with shit, you know, like, really. Right, but you did at S&L. You did back then when you were a kid. Yeah, but I wasn't in charge and I was helping and, you know, I was learning and all that.

Did that stress ever get to you about just like, they're always like, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up, and it's like, okay, well, for what? Well, I mean, if you just tell them ahead of time, this is going to take a certain time. I mean, it's rare that you're really going over the time period you've estimated these days. And if you, and if you do, if someone wants to yell, I accept it, you know, but if, if, if, If you yell at me and, you know, treat me like an asshole, then I'll, I will fight you. You know, I don't fucking care. You know, like, really, like, what is it worth, man? We're trying to make art.

We're not trying to be fucking, you know, we're not trying to be fucking, you know, I'm not the military. You know. Sighting that you're going to fight at some point. But I will. And I almost fought people before. Just over their attitudes? No, I could tell you.

Like, I almost fought Mickey Rourke. Okay. Swear to God, true story. Uh-huh. On the wrestler with Darrenowski, Aronowski film, he was being a dick and he, like, blame me for something he did. And then I was like, Mickey,

fuck you, man. When he came at me and, like, I had an assistant at the time. It was like this gigantic dude. And, like, he had an assistant and they all broke it up. And I was like, I went up to Darren and I was like, hey, dude, you know, like, you know, I love you, man. But fuck Mickey, I'm out.

Peace. And he was like, no, fuck him up. You know, talk to me like that. Fuck him. And did you, you walked? I was about to at lunch. And then they, and then like, Mickey was like, I'm sorry, man, you know.

And I was like, that's a better story. It's a better story to have Mickey come up to you and apologize. Yeah, but you can't, you know, it's like, dude, we're all trying to make something. You can't talk to somebody like that, you know? I like it, but I like watching people blow up. It's rare, but when pushed, what would you do? Me? I won't fight, but I love to scream.

Are you sure? Yeah. Fuck you. I'm not a fighter. I'm not a fighter. I'm not a fighter. Yeah, but neither am I. But, you know what, like someone talks to you down to you like that and is aggressive to you.

I'm not going to put up with it. What do you do for fun? Do you have any hobbies? I don't really have much. I mean, I love movies. I love art. I mean, I just like collapse, man. I mean, but nothing to, do you work out?

Yeah, I do, yeah. Okay. So, I mean, that's cool. When do you go to the gym? Whenever I can. Good for you. Good for your machine. Mike's a machine.

You covering your whole body with your own ink? Do you make the art or no? I haven't gotten a tattoo in 25 years. I mean, these are old. Okay. A guy named O'Neal Gupta. an Indian tattoo guy down in New York City, super famous guy.

Uh-huh. And he did them like, I don't know, 2002 or 2003 or something, or Michelangelo, like Sistine Chapel stuff. And what made you just stopped getting more? I don't know. I was like, I didn't care anymore. I don't know.

What do you have? Do you have tattoos? You have nothing? Nothing. And you never wanted to try anything? No, I want to do it, but I want to wait. Well, how long until you're next to tell you have polyps? I just want to wait,

and then I'm going to get covered, just in weird. What are you going to do? I don't know. You get beef isn't butt head? Yes. Your buttle. No, mainly King of the Hill themes everywhere.

Which are you more proud of? Winning an Emmy or losing an Oscar? I don't really care, you know. Like, I mean, I love the whole awards thing for artists. You know, giving an award to an artist. That's fucking awesome. But it's petty and competitive and stupid and I don't really care. But you wish you would have won the Oscar, right?

Everybody does, right? I mean, but I don't wish for it. You know, if it happens, it happens. You've been nominated for three Academy Awards. Are you competing in the same category as glamour makeup, or is that a different category? Yeah, it's all kind of grouped into one kind of thing, you know, which, you know, it's like... Two different worlds. I think it's sort of like the accumulation of the film's makeup.

I think the origin of the award was a prosthetic award, essentially, because the very first Oscar given was in the 50s. But then they gave one to Planet of the Apes, and then their very first one was Rick Bates. for American Wear from London, and then it was like consecutive awards, and it was like prosthetic. And then I think in the 2000s or something it started looking at more of broad hair and makeup so it kind of became one big category.

My real question about your work is, why do you use photos of Mark Zuckerberg to cover up the nipples of your work on your Instagram? Well, censoring artists' work, man. Fuck that guy. I mean, maybe he's cool or something, but like, there's no chance of cool. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. There's no. that guy. There's no chance Mark Zuckerberg will ever be cool. Well, you know, you put a picture up and then it gets deleted because of, I don't know, some kind of algorithm or whatever it is. It's like, dude, this shit's fake. Like censoring art or censoring someone, like, what is that? Who's the authority here? You're not putting on porno or something, you know, like, where maybe you'd consider like this is wrong to the public that kids could see. But like, I don't know.

Have you ever worked on a porno? Yes, I have. It's happening. right now. Hit the music head. I'm just wondering, like, you know, there's got to be some porn that have said, you know. Like horror porn. Horror porn. Oh, there's got to be.

Somebody's done it, I'm sure. And they're like, you're like, I'll throw you a bone. No, I don't know. Like, shit's trash, man. No, I didn't think it was good. I mean, I know it's beneath you. I just want to know if you ever. Well, what was it like being in that point?

I didn't say have you ever been in a porn. Just want to know if you ever done the makeup for somebody. No. There is an E.T. porn, I heard. I've seen some photos of it. It's pretty funny. Big long finger. Yeah, like, every once in a while a friend will send, like, this image of, like,

ET bent over or something, you know, like. Everybody's on the show gets gifts. These people have sent me something. I don't want it. Harry, plus, it's a razor's system. Oh, cool. I need that. I don't do that.

I need razors. A sop. These are all new masks. Thanks, man. And hydrating serums. for faces, they're unused, but I don't use these ones, so I don't want them, but I figured. Cool, thanks. I hope they're used.

No, they're not. Look, you can tell it's not used. Oh, cool. Like, it still hasn't been punctured. Let's try it. No, I'm not doing anything. Anytime I see, I saw. Parsley seed.

Is that any good? I really love that. There's more face stuff. Cool. Thanks, man. This is awesome. By the way. Cool, I can't wait to give this away.

Give it away. Hold on. I got something else. This is a nice bar. Oh, cool. A bath bomb. You're going to, no, that's not a bath bomb. Put that on the floor, please, all of this stuff.

Yeah. Don't worry, but. You're 48. 49. Have you had a colonoscopy yet? No, I won't. What do you mean you won't? Fuck all that.

It's time. It's time, bro. No, that's not. It's such a bad way to go when it doesn't have to go that way. Well, you know. I have an extra one. You're going to have to take. the whole bottle for your prep work.

Oh, thank you. Wow, I'm going to drink this on the way home. Don't you, oh, don't you dare. Don't you dare drink. You have to drink the whole bottle and it flushes out the night before. That's not used. It was a tube for it. Yeah, I know you had two bottles. I had the other bottle.

I had the other bottle. I had two bottles. I just had a colonoscopy. There were no polyps. What would happen? What do you mean? What do you have to do? You go in and what happens? You bend over and like, dude sticks finger up.

They don't bend you. What do you do? You turn to your side. I don't know. What is a camera? Yes, but if there's polyps on you, they get rid of them. Okay. So it's the only surgery that is actually, you know, the check is actually preventative for cancer in the future.

Okay. Well, maybe that's another way. You do. I don't want to do it. I know you, nobody fucking wants to do a colonoscopy. What do you have to do, drink a weird lakeway or something? You have to drink that. Oh, really?

A bottle. So does it like glow in your ass? No, it just flushes you out toward just nothing but water is pouring out of you. Shit. And it's bad. It's a lot of it. I can't believe you're not. Did you feel lighter after?

No. I just, my, my rim was sore because of wiping. It was just horrible. Oh, man, that's fucked. We'll be right back. Foam, latex, or silicone? Well, they're still used both. I mean, back in the day, it was the only material you can glue on someone's face,

but it's an opaque material. You have to paint it to kind of give the illusion of translucency and skin. But now we're using silicone to wear, like, for panes of, when it's a translucent piece you're gluing on that's tinted from, like, within, and then you're airbrushing colors over it, and it really looks like skin. But if it's a body suit or something, like a monster or whatever, has to be foam, which is like a lightweight material, but you have to paint it expertly, you know.

But, I mean, it's like any other material we use. There's so many hundreds of materials we use. Silicon is, like, the primary thing. Are you building masks at all? Not per se. A lot of what we do are, like, little pieces that get glued on and blend into the skin. And it's kind of like a mask, but it's really like this super fine version of it. I used to run around this big baby mask all the time. Oh, yeah, that one. That one's a good mask.

Yeah, that's a guy named, yeah, he makes it of like real flesh masks or something like that's like he makes, he's like politicians and shit. Those are good. They're cool. They're oversized though. Uh-huh. But can you, you've never been in that world. You've never made masks like that, but I haven't done it in years. Make some crazy masks. Start selling that thing. I'm on a little side hustle for you. What would you say to the person that has to put Trump together every morning? Are they going to orange? It's going to take all day. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, I don't know what's going on with that. Like, I don't know if it's like he's decided that he has to be this character that like, like, he's got to go, we got to have white circles around my eyes and orange skin. Like, I don't know. Like, at this point,

I just think he would be like, all right, I saw myself on TV and my eyes are white. Maybe I can change something. No, I, yeah, you're right. He's like a character. It's kind of like Pennywise. You know, it's very much like Pennywise. You know, it's like that kind of thing. I want to ask about fat suits. Fat suits? Eddie, what do you want to know about fat suits? Just like Brendan Fraser and the whale.

Right. What is the, how do you build that from like, when he was taking the shower, it's like so disgustingly real looking? Right. So those are sculptures. I mean, they're hyper-realistic sculptures that are built. And I think that was modeled in a digital sculpting program called Z-brush. And then it was part clay, part-a-digital printout. and it was like it's a suit person wears

and they film it, and they get the right, the best camera angle. And then editing is important too. It's like if they cut away, sometimes it might be a real dude. And then when they go to the close-up, it might be him in that suit, you know? So trickery.

Tyra Banks, remember when she used to run around in a fat suit and like say, oh my goodness, I can't believe how hard it is to be not beautiful? I was like, all right. Crazy. Did Howard Stern actually commission you to build the beetle juice? No, no, no.

You know, back, what was that? Maybe in the early 2000s, I always listened to the show for years. Who me? I did. No, that was my question. Who me? Who me? 125.

He's so great. Beetlejuice is like the greatest character ever, you know? And I was like a huge fan of his, to be honest. And I contacted Sean, who's no longer with us, his old manager. Okay. I was like, hey, man, we should life cast Beetle Juice. and just because I wanted his head, you know, and I wanted it, you know, because it's like, like, how often you see somebody that looks so cool, you know, like, so interesting.

So I contacted him. He was like, yeah, and I was like, do you think he would be able to handle, like, getting rubber all over his face? And he's like, no, he'll be able to do it. So he came over, and it was like, I don't know, seven in the morning. Like, they show up to my studio, like, and they're already drinking beers, you know? It's like, they're drinking beers. And, like, there's, like, all these heinikins at my refrigerator and shit. And like, Beatle sat there like a total professional.

And I was like, Beatle, I'm going to mix this shit up, put it on your face. And you just got to sit there. And then we're going to put these bandages on and then take it off. And it's, he couldn't have been more cooperative and understood everything perfectly. And he sat there and we did a life cast of him, pulled it off. And then he had a beer and left. It was unbelievable. How long did he have to sit?

I don't know, a half hour he was underneath it. And how are you breathing in that scenario? You just like clear the nostrils out. You know, there's no straws or anything. It's such. We're going to do it to you one day. Actually, what we do now is... Yeah, it literally makes me panic, just thinking about it.

Yeah, we don't really do it that much now. We do 3D scanning. We scan the person in and, like, get printed, you know, out of this resin. But lifecasting is just, like, amazing thing. But we did it, and then it sat on Howard Stern's desk for years. It was right behind him on his desk. That's pretty great. What do you do with all the prosthetics and makeup after a shoot?

I save them. I mail them to people as like, you know, no. They're trash, man. You have to just throw everything away. Well, it's impossible to save. They're so soft. They peel off the skin and you can't save it. You ever had fun with your garbage, man, like on trash day?

Just have weird shit hanging out of your can. No, it never, never happened. But my dumpsters have been filled with weird shit, yeah. Just dead bodies? Aren't body parts and craziness. Do you like it on a movie set when they're kind of trying to just work things out in real time? Or do you, are you like, knock it off, motherfuckers, have this figured out? A lot of what we do is preparation, you know, it's kind of like you've got to prepare and test it.

I've been on sets where like shit hasn't been tested and like directors freaking out and it's like costing money and like it's a nightmare. I've been on a few shit productions where like producers were assholes and directors an asshole. Luckily not our department, but I've seen other people get like, you know, fired and all that kind of thing. Do you care solely about your department or do you care about the whole of the project? I mean, like, have you been on stuff where you're like, your work is amazing? but you know that this is a turd that you're working on. A lot of the time, you know, sometimes you know you can sense. Uh-huh.

I don't know. I don't want to name names, but... But what about the other way around? What about where you thought things were a turd and it turned out like, oh, fuck? Yeah, a lot of times. Isn't that funny? That's happened. Like, did you know the penguin was going to work like it did?

No one knew. I know. But when you were on there, where you're like, oh, this is amazing. It seemed really cool. Like, cinematography looked good. Writing was good. like Colin obviously is amazing actor You know, I mean, it was like, but you never know

Off the charts too. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Kristen Miliani. Yeah, she's great. I mean, that show is a rare one, to be honest. Are you going back? We don't know yet. We don't know yet.

But we're doing the next Batman. But the show is going back to it. So you are in a good position of leverage there. Well, I don't know. I mean, we'll see. I mean, if they write a cool script and it happens, then I don't think it's like, I thought the show was definitely coming back.

I think people wanted to be back. No, I think the show is definitely, no. I hope so. So, but then if the show is definitely back, are you, are you contractually, like, tied to it for its duration of a show or not necessarily? Well, I created it. I mean, I don't really own it.

That's my next question. Can you own characters that you create? Probably. I know Rob Boutin had partially owned Robocop. Okay. So they really wanted him to do that movie, and he was like, what the fuck is this Robocop movie?

movie, hell no. And he's like, all right, I want the toy rights and I want poster rights. And I'm like, all right, yeah, there's going to be toys for this. Hell no. And then there was, there was, it was a, you know, cult hit, you know, so it was like, he made a lot of money on that later. And it was kind of like, same with George Lucas and Star Wars. Everyone's like, he's like, I want the toy rights and everything. They're like, this movie's going to suck. So you're fine. Here, here. And he made more money on the toys and the merchandising than the movie itself. So, I mean, I don't think they'd make that mistake now. Like, they're not going to give me, you know, the penguin and toy rights. I mean, there's never happening. Nobody wants that toy. That's not a toy way. I have the Tosh Point O toys. If I was in charge

of the penguin toy, I'd make it cool and people would want it, you know? Mm-hmm. No, I have all the rights to Tosh Point O toys. And I'll be honest with you, I haven't made a dollar. Do you know how many movies you've done for real? Yeah, about 100. Okay. You know, I've been doing this for 30 years. You update your resume? Does anyone have a resume anymore? I don't know. Mike?

Dude. Thank you for being here. You got it. Thanks, man. Pasha! I want to thank Mike for being on the show. Carl. Is that you?

Or is that Mike in a costume? Hey, that's a good question. He's in the costume. Oh, I know Mike's makeup anywhere. No, that's pretty great. And the guy just taught himself how to do something. Love it. And now he's just out, you know, fighting celebrities.

Living his life, don't mess with him. Right. I just spit. Oh, well. Patreon.com slash toss show if you're wanting some more content. Right. My first farewell tour, tickets are selling like. Hot cakes.

Hot cakes. Where am I going to be? I'm doing the Northeast coming up real soon. Come on, Connecticut, Mass. Where else are I? Pennsylvania. Oh, then I'm heading up to Canada. Mm-hmm.

Getting some Toronto love, some Montreal love. Oh, bonjour Montreal. Ooh. Je suite, Danielle. Toshoshostore.com. And now, hit the music. Turn it up louder. Now fade it out.

They love me. They love me not. What do you got? for me, Eddie. This is from Jennifer via email. Okay. I probably don't fit your demo as a 46-year-old mom and grandma from Iowa, but I have always thought you were just so funny. Thanks for all the laughs. Oh, that's nice. And of course, that's my demo. Hot 46-year-old grandmas. Right. You know, Ed's always talking about grandma porn. Yeah. Hey, here you got an example where you're like, that's not so gross. Well, yeah. That's a 46-year-old. She's a dozen years younger than us.

What a smoke show. We're in. Send us a link. Well, thank you. Yeah, I don't know that she does, Grandma Porn. I don't think she does. I just meant in general you talk about the genre all the time. All right, what else? So that was they love me.

What do you got for they love me not? This is from Angelou Moore 1097. On the running bit. So you don't like running trails because you don't like seeing the same thing twice, yet you prefer running loops. So prefer seeing the same thing eight to 12 times, three crying face emojis the fuck skull another crying face emoji okay uh see this this is this is uh this is triggering this person is exactly the type of person that if they worked for me they would be fired quickly

because they don't get obvious things when i'm saying like if you work for me you have to accept that i don't always paint a perfect picture but you you better be able to fill in the gaps really fucking quickly. I said I don't like a there and back, where you have to run on a trail to a certain point, then turn around run back. I prefer a trail run that does one complete loop. I wasn't talking about running on a track eight to ten times,

you dumb fuck. Crying emoji, crying emoji, crying emoji. It's just stupid. No, I like to see everything, one time, one massive three to six mile loop.

That's my preference, whether it's a town, whether it's a trail through the woods, or, you know, I don't have any other examples. Those are the two. See you next week.