Tosh Show - My Sex Toy Designer - Ti Chang

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Daniel vibes with Ti Chang, co-founder of pleasure jewelry line Crave, who started her career as an industrial designer for big corporations and pivoted to creating high-end vibrating necklaces and rings.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do you remember your first vibrator? Oh, absolutely. Do you still own it? Definitely not. Definitely not. Ew. Tosh show. Tosh show. Tosh show.

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Okay, thank you for respecting that. Now, I do wanna get in to some comments that have been made to our YouTube channel Eddie I hear you got some good ones. I got them loaded up. Here we go from the Chris Cortazzo episode I love how Daniel Tosh wanted to only interview normal people so not celebrities But his version of normal people are basically aristocrats but his version of normal people are basically aristocrats. Oh my goodness. And these are fans of mine. Right.

They're just so dumb. I never said I wanted to interview normal people. I said I wanted to interview interesting people, people that I found interesting. These people think there's only two types of people in the world, celebrities and normal Baffling I think they're aristocrats. Oh, hey that guy climbs rocks really fast. What an aristocrat Very opposite I mean give it a break guys

The show is simple. I think the person's interesting. Let's talk for a little bit. The end. God damn it, Eddie. The first comment already got me heated. Yeah, you are steaming. Well, you know, it's a microcosm. Look at these new fancy thumbnails. That's funny. I'm glad someone noticed. John sure won't shut the fuck up about them.

Regarding the free plug segment at the end, do any of these people, organizations, whatever, ever tell you that they had one hell of a turnout for their yard sale or community theater production? You would think, but the answer is no. I've never gotten any feedback like, hey, thanks a lot for doing that. Quite the contrary. The bread company that those ladies were running that I thought was so amazing the focaccia bread

I haven't seen them at the farmers market since Yeah, they just don't show up anymore by giving them a free plug. I have cost them business apparently I don't know. I mean, I'd love to know what happened at LARP Fest Yeah, I'd loved I'd love to know what happened at LARP Fest. That'd be great. Give us some feedback guys Are these are these plugs, are they reaching the people that I hope? Yeah, the Rising Sun is basically the swastika of the East Asian countries. Okay. That's all the fact checking I need. I will never buy another Rising Sun belt again.

Why the fuck do they still have the stupid video border? You still got that border up, John? Oh man, the border. Maybe we do something different with the border. I wouldn't touch it. What about if there's an option where you can watch the video without a border? Oh, that's kind of neat.

So we have two channels. We have Toss Show on YouTube. You can sign up, subscribe, or. We have Toss Show on YouTube. You can sign up, subscribe, or we can get Toss Show without border. That sounds like it's more inclusive, actually. See if we can snag that handle before it's long gone. Next up, I just saw you last month in Vegas. You are still the best stand-up comedian out there. Eddie opened and he is hilarious as well. First time I had heard his stand up, but he was really great. Jesus.

Did you pick that one, Eddie? First I've seen, I haven't seen this one. Yeah, all right, that's really nice of you. Thank you for coming to see us do stand up. As a lady, I like Tosh's tree setup. I never thought about propping up the tree. Well, as a man, you're welcome. That's our role as men, to make your lady lives easier. By the way, I know that's

not my idea. I'm sure a million people have put their Christmas tree on top of a riser of sorts. It's like tons of people are like, you can't trim the branches. Of course you can trim the branches. But the bottom branches, those are the biggest branches. They're the ones that go out the farthest. That's the most bang for your buck when you're buying per foot. So trimming those off, that's just wasteful. You see what I'm saying? So I get just enough for the base to get in. And then usually I find one spot that I can get my hand in so I can water effectively every couple days but I you know I want to keep those big long branches from on the bottom. Oh man I'm

getting excited for my tree hunt this year. Eddie you always don't buy a tree you always go out into the the wilderness and chop your own tree down but every tree I've ever seen it's just maybe the worst Christmas tree I've ever ever looked at. It's a small cabin we have I have to ever ever looked at a small cabin. We have it I have to really specifically it's gonna have nothing to do the cabin. It's never full it It looks it doesn't look like you are even cutting proper Christmas trees No, I love what I come home with every year Let's put a photo up of one of Eddie's Christmas trees and tell me that it's not the most depressing thing you've ever looked at

Mmm, there's barely enough branches ever to hold your ornaments. That we do kind of get, it is close sometimes. It's year to year. We're like, I think, okay. I just think you guys go for a walk and then you're like, all right, who wants to head back? Let's just take this one. All right, what else you got?

Also from the Chris Cortazzo episode, not in the cool part of Malibu near the beach, I mean, west, west in the cool part of Malibu near the beach, I mean, west. West of the beach is ocean. I knew as soon as I said that that people would make this comment, but it's like, am I really going to explain to them the geography of Malibu? Malibu is, you can go east and west on the PCH through Malibu.

Santa Monica Bay hooks around and my home, I stare out at the ocean due east. I watch sunrises over Santa Monica Bay. So I'm looking at the ocean staring due east with the sun coming up. It's, I know, I knew I shouldn't have said it the right way just so people wouldn't have these dumb comments, but you get it.

So next time you're, you know, in front of a globe, a really big globe, I guess. Yes, a globe. You wanna look at how Malibu wraps around. I mean, you really want me to blow people's minds here. LA, okay, which is on the west coast of California, and Tahoe, which is on the east coast of California, actually on a map, Tahoe is further west than Los Angeles. Does that blow your mind?

This is like Shmigadoon. Nah, whatever. From the Haunted House episode. Tosh, all right, get that off my desk, please. than Los Angeles. Does that blow your mind? This is like Shmigadoon. Nah, whatever. From the Haunted House episode. Tosh, all right, get that off my desk, please. Haunted House Guy drags chainsaw blade across edge of new desk.

Okay, it wasn't his blade. I'm glad this person noticed it. Great comment. Send that person the plaque, the YouTube plaque, because I'm staring at it right now Brand new table. I'm staring at the scratches from the box I think what happened was the box that had sat in my garage for years had like gravel

Embedded into the cardboard and when I set it down, I was like, oh, it's not good And then when he pulled it, sure as shit, just gouged up the table the whole way across. Like, ugh. Yeah, that's infuriating. Oh, well. From Jesse's episode, his girlfriend designs adult toys, get her on the show.

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where we get into todo lo actual y viral. Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Posh show. My guest today wants to make sure that all women, no matter where they are, on a subway, in a grocery store, at a PTA meeting, jury duty, or in their home can pleasure themselves if the mood strikes.

Please welcome jewelry sex toy designer, T. Hi, thanks for having me. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. Why are sex toys so taboo? It's our culture We live in a puritanical culture I mean sex money death like all these things that I think are so important to our

Well-being like we can't talk about it. Is it just our country? I think in other countries as well, but ours in particular You ever think that maybe God doesn't want women to have orgasms. I think the patri God doesn't want women to have orgasms? I think the patriarchy doesn't want women to have orgasms. I mean, it's just so much goes into it. Geez, Louise. See, that's exactly the problem why we have the orgasm gap. I've learned a lot about this orgasm gap.

I'm told it's around 40% the gap. Yeah, it's quite wide. I think it should be wider 75 feels right to me oh boy oh well I'm just it's just so one is so simple the other ones like yeah the issues that you guys don't stay with it I know I know like you guys think it's supposed to like wham-bam thank you ma'am but it's like no you gotta like you know take your time and then when we're like, wham bam, thank you ma'am, but it's like, no, you gotta like, you know, take your time. And then when we're like, oh, we're coming, and then you guys then lose your mind

and then like change speed, and then suddenly we're not able to come again. Yeah, well, that's the problem is if any deviation, you know, back to square one, that's frustrating for all parties. Yeah, yeah, I know, it's kind of an enigma. Now, T, do you believe in ghosts? No, never seen it, never happened to me's kind of an enigma. Now, T, do you believe in ghosts? No, never seen it. It never happened to me.

Mm-hmm. You were born in Taiwan. Correct. Came to the States when you were six? Yes. Did you know anything about America before you moved here? Nothing. I didn't even speak English. So I was in ESL for like most of the eighties.

I didn't even come to cultural consciousness until the nineties. You moved to Atlanta? Atlanta, correct. Beautiful Atlanta. That's one perspective. Do you remember living in Taiwan at all? I do, I do.

It was a very nice place. I remember being able to walk in the streets and having street food. That's one of the big things Taiwan is known for. Like the street food is so good. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I remember just the street food. Do you go back?

Occasionally, yeah. Are you a dual citizen? No, I'm American. Uh-huh. Yeah, I was naturalized. Nah, I figured go back? Occasionally, yes. You a dual citizen? No, I'm American. Uh-huh. Yeah, I was naturalized. I figured as much, but I didn't know if you wanted, is there any perks to having a second citizenship? A lot of people do that now.

Yes, because Taiwan's healthcare is so much better. It is. That so many expats will actually go back and get full body exams, or if they have major healthcare issues like cancer, they'll actually go back and get treatment full body exams or like if they have major health care you know issues like cancer they'll actually go back get treatment because it's way cheaper there and way but I mean it's actually state-of-the-art I'm not I'm not gonna treat any of my things I'm just going out quick hey that's that's an approach oh that's fair that's where I stand there did you like Atlanta it'll

always be home but are your parents family still still there? Yeah, my entire family. I'm the only black sheep that's outside of Atlanta. Black sheep outside of Atlanta. That seems like I should there should be some comedy there, but I'm not going to say anything. What was growing up in Atlanta like? For a young Asian person in a time that was very conservative and predominantly white, it was very isolating. What did your parents do and what brought them over here in the first place? Both my parents, they were academics,

and they came here for basically the American dream. They wanted to have a better life for us, but being immigrants and their English was not very good. So when they came here, they couldn't really get like high paying jobs. So they ended up starting a furniture store. So my mom to this day, she still has the furniture store. We call her Mama Lou and she's literally like 74

still running around the furniture store. So it's a, you know, all American furniture place. We really sold this American dream thing. How did people find out about that? The world knows that there's this thing called the American dream thing, how did people find out about that? The world knows that there's this thing called the American dream, I find that fascinating. Yeah, and you get here and you're like, it's not really that great.

No. I mean, there are opportunities for sure. I mean, I am proof of that, but like, yeah, it's not as good as people think. Just funny that people know, like, oh, let's go there. There's a lot of propaganda that went around and then you get here, like, what? Well, in fairness, they didn't do themselves any,

they went to the dirty South. The South was great for music and culture. I mean, I was raised on TLC. I loved the 90s music. I love hip hop, but outside of that, I mean, fried chicken, Southern cuisine. TLC. I know, love them, love them. What's your second favorite song of theirs? Waterfall. Oh the first was which one no scrubs

I was thinking waterfalls was one in my head. I didn't I forgot about no scrubs. That's bad Where did you go to college and what did you study? I went to Georgia Tech and I said I kept staying in Atlanta Yeah, yeah, I had a scholarship Yeah, we we didn't have much money and so I luckily had a scholarship and afforded me to go to Georgia Tech and I Looked at the curriculum and I didn't want to be an engineer So I ended up being an industrial designer and right after college you eventually went to the Royal College of Art in London Where you received your master's degree in vibrators.

Did I read that correctly or no? No, something is called Design Products. Okay. Yeah, close enough. Close enough. Did you enjoy living there? No, because they totally rip on you as an American. I mean, you know, they do it as a term of endearment, but it was very, you know, for

American, I was just like, whoa, they're really nasty here. But really, they liked you, but they always just rip on Americans. Have you always been interested in design? Yes, since I learned what it was in college. I didn't know what it was in high school, I just liked art. But yeah, in college, when I learned about design and how it can impact people,

that was like a life changer for me. Where are some places that you worked? I worked at Goody Hairbrushes. Goody, they also own men's Ace comb, which is like a classic item for men. And then I worked at Trek Bicycle. I was their first female industrial designer there. Do you like cycling of any kind?

No, and I was very honest with them during the interview. I was like, I haven't been to bicycle since I was like maybe 12. Yeah, but you never forget. Right, you never forget, that's true. And they're like, perfect, great, that's exactly what we want. We want someone who's like not a bike geek.

And I was like, okay. How'd you pivot from designing bikes at Trek to designing pleasure toys for women? So I've always designed with a feminist lens. Like I, after working, I realized there were so few women working as an industrial designer, which really was concerning because there are things that are very specific to the female experience, like breastfeeding, that there weren't that many women working in products.

And so for me, I just wanted to work on experiences that centered around women. And I was hired to do so at, for example, Trek. And then afterwards, vibrators interested me because I just saw a dearth of nice looking vibrators. I mean, for the most part, the landscape of vibrators were very anatomically inspired. And that's great for some folks, but I wanted something that was discreet and beautiful.

So that's when I decided to give it a go. Vibers are designed by men for the most part. For the most part, historically, that's how they started. Unbelievable. I mean, the industry is so taboo that it doesn't draw a lot of talents and like serious like designers, engineers, and like business folks into the industry because people are like, oh, this is stigmatized. We shouldn't, you know, and so it's kind of like it always been this seedy kind of a way.

But now it's maturing and they're sophisticated consumer products. At least that's how I view them. So you're going to be able to clean up because of like, oh, look, this industry that's got so much money has a bunch of knuckleheads running it. And I can just come in and I wouldn't say that. I just think that no, no, no. I think I just have a different perspective on how products could be because of my training and because of just my personal taste.

Just like, you know, as a comedian, you have a certain way, you know, you form jokes and that's true to you. And for me as a designer, I mean, I saw a landscape of products that for me were not for me, you know, but they're for other people. I don't want to yuck other people's yum, but I just design in a different way.

I want something that felt beautiful and was pretty. You're not designing just the full gamut of sex toys, right? We do pleasure jewelry and we have what we call fine bedside products. They're traditional, they're vibrators, but they don't look anything like vibes. They look like mascara. They look just super chic and discreet. Do you design any for men? We don't. We don't look anything like vibes. They look like mascara. They look just super chic and discreet. Do you design any for men? We don't, we don't.

Good. You know why? Gross. I mean, you guys haven't traditionally have had issues. Right, we don't have issues. We know when you finish. We don't need anything. Putting stuff in us, I don't need it.

Yeah, I mean, and so for women, it's not just always about Insertion because I think when people think of vibrators, they think a big old dildo which you know can't be I never think I Keep the two very separate good. Then you are enlightened. You're right vibrators or vibrators dildos or dildos? Dildos are dildos are weird and vibrators are fine Yeah, and I just wasn't interested in designing, you know, and reinventing the wheel. Sure. Yeah. Well, it's not really a wheel, but we understand what you're saying there.

Talk about the sex toy jewelry and why women should never leave home without it. What I make is pleasure jewelry. It's a way that women can wear their pleasure if they want to. But the way they're designed, you can just remove the chain if that's not to your liking. You can leave it at home as just like a chic vibrator that you can leave at home. Is it only necklaces? We have necklaces and bedside products.

So this, like as you see here, this is our best sellers called the Vesper. You can wear it out obviously, but you can also remove it because some women, they feel very empowered when they wear this out. For example, this one woman, she's told me that she wears it to a first date. She brings it to first dates because she wants to know immediately if, let's say, the guy that she's seeing,

if he's going to have a problem with her using a vibrator, and she wants to know right off the bat. Well, that seems like a crazy thing to have a problem with, but it also seems crazy on the other side to be like, hey, I brought my vibrator with me today. You know, but the thing is, is that it also creates conversations that you wouldn't otherwise would not have had. How many of those things on your neck are actual? Two. Okay. So this one and this one as well.

Okay. There's a lot of jewelry on. I don't know. I know. I'm kind of extra. Do your friends think all of your accessories vibrate? Some of them, but like for the most part, they expect it and they, yeah.

They're like, oh okay, well she's got new earrings, I'm sure that's- Yeah, people, they do look at it like, is that vibrate? No, this is just Apple Watch. I mean, Apple Watch in a pinch? It could, what? You're true, it does vibrate, it does vibrate.

Though a horseshoe one of yours that's like, how is that supposed to be used? So that's a dual motor vibe. So it has a motor on each. It's kind of like a little bunny ear type of thing. It basically surrounds the clitoris. Okay. Yeah. So just put it on both sides of it there, straight in?

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, so just a very focused sensation. I don't know. No, it's a very legitimate question. I eyeballed that one like, well, I don't know how to use it. No, that's a very fair question because some people are like, where do you insert it? It's like, no, no, no, it's a very legitimate question. I eyeballed that one like, well, I don't know how to use it. No, that's a very fair question

because some people are like, where do you insert it? It's like, no, no, no, it's to surround the clitoris. Uh-huh, and are different motors doing different things on that one or no? It could, it could. Oh man. Yeah, so. I got to toggle between those.

Very focused on the clitoris. Do people designing sex toys study a lot of anatomy? Like, is there a doctor on the team or...? No, well, what we make, we make external vibrators. So we focus on the clit from the external side because there are already a lot of products out there that are for internal use. So we don't make those. Do you have to have a different, like, I don't know,

is there different requirements for internal? There's just more things that you have to think about. And for us, like I said, like, I, I, what I make are things that don't exist and that interests me as a designer and what we make as a company. And, um, but there are plenty of other, you know, internal toys out there.

Are you every year designing, like, oh, this is the 2024? We have new products coming out every year. Is that what it is? No, I meant like, oh, like, that's the 2023 model. Like, now you've got to, you've got to upgrade. Like, the iPhone, like, you have to have the new. No, we tend to, like, oh, like that's the 2023 model. Like now you've got to upgrade, like the iPhone, like you have to have the new.

No, we tend to like, what sells, like we, our first product was launched in 2012 and it's still a product that's in our line. So it's our flagship product. It's the world's first crowdfunded vibrator and it's USB rechargeable and that's still in our line. It's not like the iPhone where you refresh every year and you feel like you have to get the next best one.

No, so it stays in our line for a long time. Yeah, it's not like, oh, the end of the year, this vibrator starts conking out on us mysteriously so that you have to get the next one. Well, we do have really good warranties. We have a five-year coverage. Do people actually return a vibrator and say, this one seems like something you might be like,

you know what, I'll just buy a new one? Yes, that too. But we actually have really good customer service. So I mean, people are used to like not returning because they're embarrassed or whatever. But no, if you research our customer service, like we have a one year warranty and a five year coverage. What's the hardest feature to engineer in a toy?

It's a balance between power and size. Like we're known for very compact, discrete vibes that are very sleek. And so getting power and battery life, that combination is a delicate balance because of the mass and how like the motor has to move a lot. Basically it's just a delicate balance between the motor and the power and getting the right sensation. What's the shortest length that a battery will last? 20 minutes? 30 minutes? That completely varies because it depends on how hard you're driving the motor.

So it can last a really long time. You're saying if you're pressing hard it drains it quicker? No, actually no. It has to do with how much you're trying to run. So if you run at a very low power you can run it for hours, but then if you run at a very high power it may last only 30 minutes. Why do we have so many options with speeds and... Your preaching is required. I feel the same way. I mean our products is very simple. Four or five speeds, you know. Five speeds? Who needs five speeds for the most part, our products are very simple in speeds. But yes, there are people that with like 42, 32 speeds

and I get lost cause you're just like scrolling through. Well, and then you're pressing one button and it's just always like going to the next thing. And it's like, where was the one that you liked? I don't know. Right, right. And then you have to scroll again to find the thing. I know that's not good user interface. It's not. It's not.

I agree. You ever have one, do you ever have one die on you? That's always embarrassing. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because then you have to get the extension cord out. I don't think that's it. Well, ours is rechargeable, so there's no extension cords.

Well, I know, but you can't ever keep it manually plugged in if it's dead. No, we don't have any corded vibrators. We make all rechargeable ones. They don't make any, you're always like, everybody wants them quiet? Yeah, mm-hmm, nobody wants a lawnmower. That's what I was saying.

What about making it sound like a five horsepower Briggs and Stratton that needs to be choked? Brrrr, brr, brr, brr, brr. That might be interesting. No, nobody wants to hear those noises? I'm sure there's somebody. There's always something for someone. I like the idea of like, oh my goodness, there's a lawnmower between my legs. If you like that power. I'm sure there's somebody. There's always something for someone. I like the idea of like, oh my goodness,

there's a lawnmower between my legs. If you like that power, I'm sure someone, you can find a toy like that. That's the thing. There's always something for everybody, huh? Exactly, yeah, exactly. That's disturbing. When your company is making

these elegant tasteful little items, why is anyone still buying that giant Hitachi magic wand that looks like a bowling pin? But that is still classic. That is a classic. Who are these people that- I have a lot of respect for the Hitachi. I mean, well, okay.

It's the size of an arm. Absolutely, and the power it has is a corded, like you said, it's like a corded thing and has like so much power. For some people, that's what they need to get off. And go to an amusement park, Jesus. Or sit on a washing machine. Right, oh. Did sit on a washing machine.

Right. Did people actually do that with the washing machines? I mean, according to, you know, 60s housewives, like... All right, so you have a soft spot for Hitachi's magic wand. There are just so many things. Like you said, there's something for everyone. And the Hitachi is one genre of wand products that is just iconic. And then there are a bunch of other stuff

And so sometimes you're in different mood for different things and even make music. No, not ours No, do we want music on there? What about smell? You're like a scent No, you know people have played with scented silicone I don't think it's become a I don't think it's caught on is there there something to, if people get addicted to vibrators, that it becomes even harder for them to be pleased? No, that's a false. That's a myth. That's a myth.

That's a myth. Yeah, I mean, it's like any muscle memory, like in the beginning, if you overstimulated, yeah, they may not feel anything, but that's only for like maybe a few hours or whatever, but it's not a permanent nerve damage or anything like that. I'm gonna ask you, I haven't asked many personal sexual questions,

but do you remember your first vibrator? Oh, absolutely. Do you still own it? Definitely not. Definitely not, ew. That was from a shop in downtown Atlanta, and it was one of those classic long bullet vibe with a rotary dial with huge trip, I think it was like double C classic like long bullet vibe with like a rotary dial with like huge like trip

I think was like double C batteries like see not D or I know I didn't have D Jesus D But there were huge these one of those mag lights that you used like you eat somebody like that It had that same girth like yeah, I know goodness. I know yeah. No, I don't have that anymore What do you need to like? Make the business go to the next level? Like you wearing it and yeah, no, no.

I don't think that's gonna help. No, I'm not against that, but I don't think that does much. It would take, I think culture to shift even a bit more and just people being more open-minded because right now we have a lot of issues where we can't advertise. We've not been able to advertise in the 15 years of the company. Like, can you imagine, like, you know, being company, you're not allowed to market because all of the social media platforms, they just do not allow vibrators of any kind.

Or actually many women's doctors who, like, take care of things like heroic floor issues, like, they're not allowed to advertise their services. But, like, can Kim Kardashian hold your thing up on Instagram and say, I love this vibrator? Perhaps, and yes, she can. Or no. As an organic content, but I don't think that would be able to be boosted or used as an ad or anything like that.

Interesting, I didn't know it was that strict. It is very, very strict. In fact, we're constantly in Instagram jail because actually just the other day, we had a video of a woman because we launched a ring and in the in the promo video She was just eating an orange and the orange was dripping and immediately it got flagged And now we can't go live for days anyway, so it was a juicy orange wasn't it was a very juicy Ring what are you supposed to keep it on your finger while you're wearing it?

It's so it's a finger vibe. But it's also like a Billy Bold like statement ring for like occasion. Right, but I'm saying if you're using it, are you supposed to just take it off or do you keep it on your finger? You keep it on your finger. So it's just like a very, you know,

you can direct where you want the vibration. That would be a nice wedding ring. Yep. Let them know right where you're at. Oh, I just thought of an idea. What about something with nails? Where like, you know, like sometimes when you get nails done, like people like put a jewel or something like that.

What if we can put like a tiny little motor engine in there? Make your fingers shake basically. Oh wow, put a pin on, maybe that's our collaboration. That's probably not something you want to go out. You end up feeling like you have like Parkinson's or something that's, although that's probably not something you want to go out. You end up feeling like you have like Parkinson's or something. That's Although that's probably an upside to Parkinson's that not a lot of people talk about in this taboo culture that they can take care of themselves And thought of it that way. Well, I'm just trying to look at like an upside to your hand having tremors. No How often we supposed to clean these you're supposed to clean before and after use?

And how much cleaning are we are we talking about like just a little rinse little wipe down depend on clean these? You're supposed to clean before and after use. And how much cleaning are we talking about? Like just a little rinse, a little wipe down? It depends on how messy you got it. Yeah, what if it's not that messy? Then quick rinse is fine. Okay, that seems fine. Are these dishwasher safe? No, these are not dishwasher safe.

Yeah, they're waterproof. We make waterproof products, but dishwasher, that's a very, very high bar. Mm-hmm, oh yeah, I don't know what that would even entail. What did your parents think when you took this turn in your career? My dad was concerned immediately because, you know, I'm his little girl and he's like, oh my God, like when people think about vibrators, they immediately think of adult toy industry. And honestly, those two have, there are some overlap, but for the most part, like we don't

have porn stars walking in and out of our offices or anything like that. Honestly, those two have there are some overlap but for the most part like we don't have porn stars walking in and out of our offices or anything like that And so I had to explain to him no We're very like actually quite bland like if you came into our design studio like we could be designing Printers and you would not know it's it's just it. I mean I wouldn't I Have no idea what goes into a printer or a vibrator. Well, it just looks like a, you know, well lit, brightly lit studio, you know, that we make products. And so my dad was at first concerned, but when he saw that, you know, I was happy and I was able to support myself and he's cool with it. And my mom...

What if it gets too popular? Then will he be like, oh, this is a lot, honey. He's fine with it as long as it doesn't come up in certain family situations. Do you send them out as like stocking stuffers? No. Okay. I'm sorry. No. Sometimes I feel like I should, but at the same time, because sometimes people, they

just want an excuse to try something new and they wouldn't buy it for themselves. But at the same time, I don't ever want to push my products on other people. You've never just sat one on your mom's nightstand? I've asked her if she wanted one. She's just like, no, I'm good. And I was like, okay. So, all right, fair enough. I bought my mother-in-law vibrator once.

You did? Uh-huh. I'm really gullible, so I told you. No, no, I did. You did? Okay. Yeah, yeah. It's not funny if I didn't do it.

Well, I don't know. It's half the time. I can't tell. No, I bought my sister-in-law, my mother-in-law, my wife. What kind did you get? I don't know, it's half the time. I bought my sister-in-law, my mother-in-law, my wife. What kind did you get? I don't know. It was just, I went to shop and just got small, like discrete little vibras and I gave them out at Christmas. And then like a few months later, they were all, they laughed when they opened it, blah,

blah, blah. But then a few months later, they were all together talking. And my sister-in-law is like, you guys kept those? And they were both together talking and my search law is like you guys kept those and they were both like yeah what it was just funny cuz she she had obviously given it away or something the other ones like you know we were happy with the gift you'd be surprised at how many women they are delighted to receive vibrators because because they don't have to do the horrible thing of going into one of these weird sex shops and dealing with people.

That's one of the reasons why this whole industry, people, the shopping experience sucks, the products suck, and so all in all, if someone can just give you something nice. Are you on Amazon? We are on Amazon, out of necessity. Do you hate Amazon? It's not my favorite, but we are on there.

You don't have to say you hate it. I mean, it's just so simple. It's hard, but I get- Convenience is a big thing. You deal with, like, go to these conventions or you're like, oh, this is a lot. I have been many, many times. Those things are intense.

For me, they're super intense because I just, I don't like people. I don't like being around people. Well, sure. And so just like conventions- And now you're around a certain type of people that wanna go around and just get free sex stuff.

But also I think as a woman in that space, they view you as like booth babe kind of thing. Booth babe, is that a term? Booth babe. Booth babe. Yeah, sorry, sorry. They view you as a booth babe and it's a very, it's not a great feeling, but it's slowly changing. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's somewhat flattering to be referred to not a great feeling, but it's slowly changing, yeah. I mean, it's somewhat flattering to be referred to

as a booth bait, but I understand that it's a lot. I always give people a gift on the show. This, here, a couple things. One, I just was like, hey, I was like, honey, whose toothbrush is this? Because it looks sexy, she goes, I don't know. I don't know where it came from, because I don't use it. But it vibrates, so I wanted you to have that

I'm not gonna plug them, but it seems like a nice tooth, but burst never Now I got you new to the I want you to give this to your husband This is the shirt that I wore during our interview because it's so hideous I was like oh, but I thought it was funny because it was like Burning Man ish, okay, but you know whatever It's been properly cleaned. That's awesome. Okay, so take that shirt. Thank you, he would love that. I used to do a TV show called Tosh Mono. I gave away all the T-shirt merch, I thought I did, but then I found two more boxes in my garage,

so I'm furious. But then this was just boxes of, I think it's just, I don't know, I think it's just shot glasses and other kind of weird things. Can I open them? Yeah, yeah, I don't care, they're yours. Oh, they are shot glasses.

Yeah, and since you have a tiny house, you can use them as regular glasses. Perfect, oh, so thoughtful. These can't all be tiny. You're still coming? No, there's more, there's different, oh, look at this. This is a... Is that a flute?

Oh, it's a touch point. Oh, that's cute. Oh, man, you're gonna love it. Oh, we will use that. No, you're gonna... Absolutely. You're gonna just give all this to hold on. Thanks for getting off the desk. Normally I have to yell at people. There's a lot of these things in here, a will use that. No, you're gonna. Absolutely. You're gonna just give all this to hold on. Thanks for getting off the desk. Normally I have to yell at people.

There's a lot of these things in here, a lot of glass. Yeah. Why did we have, did we ever sell any of this stuff? Why did I? I don't think so. Do you drink? I don't. I don't.

Well, you're gonna, the other one, The marriage is starting now. The water bottles would be nice because you can just, you can give those. I drink water, yeah, yeah. Well, you give those to people. And is for, the water bottles would be nice because you can just, you can give those, well, you give those to people and then they don't have to reuse plastic. What is this? Oh, it's something else. That doesn't matter.

This is nice, you're gonna love all that. That's all I've got right now. Thanks. How did you and Jessie meet? We were introduced through a mutual friend that I went to the Royal College of Art with, and we met and we instantly was indifferent towards one another.

Oh, that's so romantic. I know. Like, we always met at parties, and on the surface, he thought I was some party girl because we were always at events. We basically ended up being the last people who were still single among our friend group. So you just like, all right, we're left.

And one night we did like, so we did MDMA and- What is that? Is that, that's Molly? Is that Ecstasy? Yes, without the speed. So it was pure MDMA. That was the best thing for us because we're two people that are so in our heads all the time that it helped us get more in tune with ourselves. And literally, after that night, we've been together ever since. You and Jessie live off-grid, right? Way off-grid.

Well, we're working on an off-grid workshop in Tiny Home, and we live in Indio. Gotcha. Okay, so you might not move into this off-grid thing? Well, we're planning on staying there, yeah. Full-time? I think we would probably most likely have- Shoes alone.

Oh, I know, mine, it's already like- You can't downsize to six pair of shoes, that's nonsense. But the thing is, I can see us having like a place in maybe in LA, and then that's our weekend thing. Okay, this is a much better perspective. He took you to his horrible world, Burning Man. Tell me honestly, was your experience going to Burning Man? He loves to talk about the dust.

Yeah, like, well, I mean, just part of the experience, you don't know when it's gonna come. So like, I absolutely hated the first few days, and he was worried for me because I was just like not here. But I pushed through and luckily the dust passed and suddenly the sun, you know, came out and it was just beautiful blue skies and all the art that had been, you know, it was like in the process of being built. All I got set up and it was just a whole new world and it was just super, super inspiring.

Would you go again? Yeah, absolutely. Oh my goodness. He turned you. I can't believe it. It was just a whole new world and it was just super, super inspiring. Would you go again? Yeah, absolutely. Oh my goodness. He turned you. I can't believe it. You got to stay strong on that one. No, because I think that we get in such a habit of just going through day to day and

if we're in a situation that is just so uncomfortable, you start to create these memories and you start to think things differently. I think at my age, I mean, I'm 44. I'm gonna be 45 this year. I can feel myself getting into like a, you know, just like, this is what I want. This is what I like. And I don't like that.

I like to just continue to experience new things. You ever think about combining your two worlds and his like ability to make these big structures and like make the world's largest vibrator. That is a really good art. I mean, maybe it's not even art. Maybe it's actually functional. You just go up to it and rub up on it.

I don't know, it shakes. No, I honestly, don't just sell yourself short. I really think that there's some art endeavor in there. No, I love that. I just don't know. Legally, you probably can't have people I really think that there's some art endeavor in there. No, I love that. I just don't know legally You probably can't have people, you know, I'm sure some stuff I'll be all upset about it

But I definitely there's a lot of that could be what you're giving back to the people at Burning Man here go Absolutely. No, I've talked we've thought about it. We've thought about it Is your goal to? To get into other stores besides sex stores but like actual jewelry stores? Yeah I mean that would be really great I mean I want to make pleasure mainstream. I think that as a culture we shy away from talking about these really important things that impact us like pleasure and the more that we can get our products in more mainstream stores like we're in online

Nordstrom and Ulta Beauty and some more, you know, avant-garde like jewelry shops. We love to get into more of those boutiques. What about the fact that you're wearing jewelry that has been downstairs? Is that weird? Not for me and not for other people, but you know, but it's totally fair if it's weird,

you know, to you. I like the idea of wearing it now. Now I feel like this is going to be my new chain. I brought one for you. You serious? I did. Oh my, well I know someone's going to be excited about that. Although I can't wear a necklace that's a vibrator, because I have young kids that I'm

always holding and any necklace I have they grab and put it in their mouth and I know that there's like a... Fair enough, fair enough. That just seems like something I don't want to watch That's fair. That's a girl You're not ready to have that conversation just yet. Yeah, I know not now not now I get it I get it I follow What did you bring? Okay? I'm a curious now. Okay. It's over there though. I have to go get it You can do whatever you need. Okay, okay, you know this you're not forced to be here

I don't know if I've ever received a sex toy as a gift You're about to are you serious? Yes. Okay good All right. So the first one is for you. Uh-huh. By the way, your packaging is nice. Your font is beautiful and You know, listen, I love a black or a pewter, whatever we're looking at here. Oh, look at this. I see that. And it has your name engraved on it. You serious? Yep.

This is not nothing. Guys. Yeah. Huh? An ally. Love it, love a male ally. You know, people always talk about, oh, is there ever a moment where you were like, oh, I've made it in my career?

And I'm going to say right now, seeing my name on a vibrator might be the single greatest. Now, how does it come out? Do I just pull it or twist it? No, there's a button on there. So this part, the part that's just out and about is the part that does the work. I was curious about that.

Yes, so just push the button. Well, I understand now, but. Is it on? Oh, now it's on, okay. I don't wanna ding it. Good RPMs. It is very quiet, because otherwise you would not know it's on.

We're pulsing, guys, we're pulsing. Oh, now we're just a low tremble. This is for your first timers right here. Yeah, there's a low, medium, high, and then there's a wave pattern. That's it? Low, medium, high, wave pattern. That's it, simple.

So the wave pattern doesn't have a low, medium, high. It's low and high, low and high. The magic of our engineering. How do I turn it off? Just hold it? Now, when you turn it back on, does it go to the last setting that it was on or does it go to the next one?

It just goes back to the low. It starts back at the top. Yeah, but at the low, yeah. Look at that. And that's USB rechargeable and waterproof. Waterproof, I like the necklace as well. I don't know if it'll make it over my head. It should, unless you have a really big head.

It's enormous. Oh, okay, let's give it a go. Oh, almost, it's getting there. Yes it does, yes it does. Ah, nice. You know those people who wear those nails as jewelry? Yeah, I don't want people to confuse me with them, okay? I'm not the nail guy.

This is lovely. And then this one is probably for your wife. Well, wait, wasn't this one for my wife? Who's this one for? Well, that's for you and your wife. I know, but what am I supposed to do with this? By the way, these boxes are, how much does this run me? That is 98 retail with engraving 108. Yeah. 108 dollars. Yeah. That's not bad, right?

Think of the work that'd save you. You just wear this on a first date and let them know. So true. Oh no. So that's the ring. This is a ring. Now will that little stretch? Okay. I just wear this ring around? Oh, no, you're saying this is for her It can for her or free you to use with her and you just press the back. Mm-hmm Does it need to be charged? Oh this have to be pulled off first. I'm not gonna do that Okay, this is I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know if this goes to my wife. This is such a nice regift This is high quality stuff here. I love it all. Isn't it silly that you can't advertise this, but like they can bombard us with boner pills

on virtually every platform? Yep. Oh, you can get a boner, but good luck, you know. Getting pleasure. Good luck her having a good time with it. That's just sexist is where it comes from. The patriarchy. Guys, the patriarchy. Guys, I'm loaded.

This is exciting stuff here. You know, your products are like, it is like getting a new Apple gear. Oh, thank you. You know, you're like, oh, this is nice. This is like what's coming out of here. All it needs now is just that thin film of plastic that I peel off to let me know that it's...

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