Tosh Show - My Sommelier - Sarah Foote
Episode Date: December 10, 2024Daniel shares some vintage port with certified sommelier Sarah Foote as they discuss wine, working for Thomas Keller at The French Laundry, and indoor volleyball.See omnystudio.com/listener for privac...y information.
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Eddie, you still a big smoker?
I'm not a big smoker.
You were a big smoker.
For a week, yeah.
For one week.
Coolest week of your life.
I felt so cool.
I never smoked.
Now, hold on now.
I don't know that Big Tobacco may be a sponsor to this show
and I don't want to say bad things about smoking
if they're a sponsor.
Are they?
I don't think they are.
Okay, well then I think smoking is dangerous.
You know where the word isn't out yet
on smoking being bad for you?
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You go to an AA meeting? Oh my goodness. They just
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about Jesus or whatever they do there.
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So my son finds this chip, this coin, it says 60 days of sobriety.
And I go, oh, I go, yes, that's good treasure, buddy says 60 days of sobriety. And I go, oh.
I go, yes, that's good treasure, buddy,
but you can't keep it.
We gotta leave it here,
because that means something important to someone else.
But they're only there once a month.
So every day we're passing it,
and he's like, dad, the chip is still here.
Can I take the coin?
And I'm like, I don't think he can.
It's not a thing you want your kid walking around with. Well, no, you can't, you can't steal that.
I think, I think that that's just bad juju.
I don't know what's going to happen.
How soon until the guy gets another chip?
90 days.
So if, if, if in 30 days, it's still there, my son can then take it because the
person would have moved on to a 90 day chip or they would have fallen off the wagon
and are back to being fun.
Yeah, makes it, yes.
First of all, drinking,
I'm not making light of drinking either.
I've never been a drinker.
My parents didn't drink
and they always told me not to drink.
They said drinking's bad.
So I was like, all right, drinking's bad
and I didn't drink.
And then by time I got to an age where I realized, oh, drinking's not bad.
And it was like, all right, well, now I don't drink.
So should I really start?
I never knew what to order.
I always feel silly.
People are like, oh, you got to try this wine.
I'm like, what?
That tastes like kerosene.
And then I bring wine always whenever I show up someplace.
You know, it's just, I just, based on price,
how much should you spend when you're bringing a bottle
of wine over to somebody's house?
I spend close to 20,000.
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My guest today can turn a sip of wine into a 10 minute TED talk. She has worked in some of the finest restaurants in the world, from Pizza Hut to the French
Laundry.
And I'm sure she will pick up subtle hints of sarcasm with some notes of ignorance from
my questions today.
Please welcome certified Somali-A Sarah.
Hi.
Do you believe in ghosts?
Sure.
I like no follow-up to an indifferent sure.
Sure, why not?
You ever seen a ghost?
I don't think so.
You ever felt one?
No.
I was doing inventory late at night once and all the wine glasses
started moving around and one of the doors opened so I just went out there I
was like I'm scared of everything please leave me alone and then they did. Uh-huh.
I get scared easy. Mm-hmm. And my mind goes into bad places quickly but yeah I
never connect the dots that way. I always just think it's just I'm just on
the verge of being killed. That's always what I'm worried about
Now just so you know, I'm not a drinker. Mm-hmm, but I always will drink just to show people I don't I'm not somebody that it's just easier to take a sure drinker than have this long
Explanation of that. I have a palette of a four month old that just wants chocolate milk. Sure
So anyway, that's where I'm at.
I'm fascinated by your work for a few reasons, because even
though I don't drink, I love vineyards.
I love going to places.
I love traveling to the south of France.
I love-
What do you do at a vineyard?
I stay at the hotel.
Sure.
Or wherever. I like it. I like ityard? I stay at the hotel. Sure. Or wherever.
I like it.
I like it for its beauty.
Mm-hmm, and its bougieness.
I like the bougieness.
I like walking around.
I like it's peaceful.
It's pretty.
All right.
How and when did you decide to become a professional wino?
I was working at a restaurant in Scottsdale
and the ownership asked whoever worked there,
if they wanted to get their level in sommelier,
they would pay for it. So I said why not? I was it's intimidating, wine's
really intimidating and when a guest knows more than you about wine it really
sucks. And I was just serving then and so I wanted to know more and it just
was like way more interesting than I thought it would be. It's history and
geography mostly.
And then there's a lot of law and science.
Like the juice in the glass at the end
is the last moments of that wine's life.
There's so much before that.
And so that was like Pandora's box blew open
and I was like, I gotta get out of here.
And then I moved to California
and started studying with Master Sommelier's.
How much, this manager of the restaurant,
how much is getting your level one sommelier?
I think it's like $500 to take the exam.
Just to take the test.
And you just have to do all the prep work?
They did.
They put on a little course.
There's no, it's not like,
they have it online now since COVID,
but they would give you like general things to study.
And so the restaurant group would put on classes.
Like a distributor would come in, bring a wine,
put on a class, I don't know, maybe 10 weeks or so.
And then you sit for the exam.
And are you allowed to take the exam multiple times?
Yeah, I don't know the time for level one,
but I passed that one on the first try.
You're a level two or three?
I'm a two.
Are you looking to continue?
You're done level two or three? I'm a two. Are you looking to continue? You're done?
Not interested.
The commitment that it takes is pretty offensive.
Okay.
And the way you have to eat and drink and spend your life and social life.
And I have a really nice life.
How long did you wait before you went to the second tier?
And how many tiers are there?
There are four tiers.
Intro, Certified, Advanced, and Master.
What tiers are there? There are four tiers, intro, certified, advanced, and master.
So the master sommelier exam is regarded as the hardest exam
in any field in the world.
Okay, but is it?
That's my response.
A brain surgeon that's listening to this right now
is probably like, yeah, yeah, no, it's the hardest.
It's demonstrably true that it's the hardest exam
in the world.
I'm not saying that that's matches what I do.
I serve rotten grape juice for a living
is what I tell people.
And I say that too.
I don't operate on brains.
I don't go to space.
I don't, but it's less than-
Is the test subjective at all or no?
It's just factual.
I just don't understand.
There's theory, which is the base of it.
So less than 300 people have passed the Level 4 exam
since its inception in 1969.
So it's like not that many people.
I get it.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
And so your brain has to be wired a certain type of way
to memorize.
And then also you have to be a super taster at that level.
So 50% of the population are average tasters,
25% are below or non, you already knew.
And 25% are above or super.
So no matter how much you, some of it is out of your hand.
Exactly.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right, that's good to know.
I like knowing stuff like that because then it's like,
oh, I can't, I shouldn't even try.
Right.
And you can train your genes.
You can train yourself to understand more,
but you can't out train yourself.
Like my genetics, I'm six foot tall,
I didn't earn that, that's not a skill.
I trained my genes to play volleyball,
but I was never going to the Olympics.
Like I was never gonna be that.
Did you wear those weird knee pads
that had the three sections?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
The pads that had the three sections?
No, I feel like mine only had one section.
That's good.
I love volleyball.
Yeah, same.
The problem with volleyball,
there's a few problems, but one problem with it,
as someone who loves watching it,
is that it's only showcased properly
once every four years at the Olympics.
Yeah.
Now you played indoor?
Yes.
Did you ever transition to the beach?
Terrible at beach.
Beach is a different game.
Different game.
But I lived in Hermosa Beach,
Redondo Beach, Manhattan Beach,
and there was a time that the tour would go literally
a half a mile down the beach each week.
And we're at a new location.
I'm like, yeah, you're at a new location.
Last week you were at the other court.
That doesn't matter.
Fun to watch beach volleyball,
but during the Olympics, I just get so into,
what do we call, just regular regular, do you say volleyball?
Yeah, indoor.
Indoor, just indoor.
Yeah.
I don't understand the, what's that bullshit position?
Libero.
Okay.
You're just allowed to be like somebody
that's not really involved, but just-
You just don't go in front row, your back row.
Is that a new rule or has that always been there?
No, I don't remember.
I don't remember that in high school
When I would watch high school volleyball, I never saw libero. I think it started maybe when I was in high school
Okay. Yeah, can you jump not well? Could you jump? Nope? I
Was just taller than everyone else. Okay, so that was everyone else
You're sitting you're not breaking records six feet in my town
I was.
Then the boys, even in like eighth grade.
Imagine with your last name, Foot, and you're Bigfoot.
At 11.
Did you have a Bigfoot?
No, I'm just Bigfoot.
I was six foot tall.
Yeah, that was tough.
That's not a good one.
At least you don't have that pin on you.
Exactly.
I like that I'm gonna only focus on volleyball.
I don't care at all about this sommelier shit, okay?
I wanna hear about the time you spiked it.
Your sister Nicole contacted us to have you on as a guest.
She also tried to get you on The Bachelor.
Is she your agent slash publicist?
Sure, yeah, she would love that.
Is she, how many siblings do you have?
Three, I'm the baby of four.
You're the baby of four?
What do you got, what are the first two?
Girl, boy, boy, girl.
Are you close with all of them?
That's nice.
They're all awesome, individually.
Your parents still together?
No.
30 years.
Which one of you caused it?
Me, for sure, 100%.
Yeah, cause it's when I left the house
that they were like, that was the glue.
At what age were you when they separated?
20 something.
How'd it hit you?
It was awful.
Right?
I thought it would be easier as an adult,
but then it just breaks your spirit about marriage.
This is the conversations I've had with people.
I honestly think people that it happens to like at
that stage, it's a tough as opposed to a five year old.
You're just like, well, it's just what happens.
You get two Christmases.
I guess that's one way to look at it.
Where were you born?
Illinois.
You were born in Illinois.
You grew up on a small farm.
Tell me what that was like.
Awesome.
It's like an idyllic childhood.
I'm like my high school graduating class
had 48 kids in it.
48 people finished.
How many started there?
I don't know the answer to that.
But our senior class shirt on the back of it
it says I graduated in the top 50 of my class.
That's cute.
It is.
In my yearbook, my senior year, our motto was,
if there's grass on the field, play ball.
Which is a reference to having sex with young people.
And nobody in our school figured that out.
We kind of always wore that as a badge of honor.
Anyway, so you grew up in a small farm in Illinois.
When did you end up heading out west?
After college.
After I graduated, well, after I graduated.
Well, before I graduated, I came out for an internship,
went back to graduate, and then moved out after college.
What college did you go to?
North Park University in Chicago.
And did you have a major in drinking?
I did, yeah.
I'm not on purpose, but yeah.
Did you drink a lot?
Yeah, that's how I started.
People ask me like, how'd you get started in hospitality?
And my mom caught me drinking
and made me start working at Pizza Hut.
Why Pizza Hut?
Because there was my only other friend
that had a job at the time, Jessica.
That's where she worked.
One of my favorite Indian restaurants here in Los Angeles
is a former Pizza Hut.
And I just love looking at the stupid building
and that they didn't do anything to change it.
And I'm like, yeah, no,
it's just a Pizza Hut that's now an Indian restaurant.
You worked at Pizza Hut.
By the way, did you steal,
I don't know if steal is the wrong word,
but did you take home a bunch of those red cups?
No.
Oh, I loved those cups.
They were such good drinking cups.
I think I have one of the things you put on top of your car
when you do deliveries still.
That's pretty interesting.
What were you at Pizza Hut?
Server, and then I would get annoyed it took too long.
So then I worked in the kitchen and managed and-
I hated their pizza.
Fair.
Deep, I hated it.
My parents would take us,
I do have a memory from Pizza Hut as a child.
It was where I had my first crushed red pepper.
What a moment.
And I remember put it, my dad's like, yeah just take one.
And I put one and he put it on my, I think I, I don't know if he put it on my tongue
like it was Passover or, but no I took one I put on my tongue and I remember not
enjoying the experience. But, but now, look at me now dad, I love crushed red peppers.
Wow. I don't know how, I could have been three me now, Dad. I love crushed red pepper. Wow.
I don't know how, I could have been three years old.
I have no idea.
So your mom caught you drinking.
What were you drinking when she caught you?
No clue.
Don't remember at all.
Something terrible, I'm sure.
Was she a drinker?
No, I never saw either of my parents really drink.
And you're like, I'll show you guys.
Literally, yeah, I sure did.
Now I drink for a living.
That's pretty great. I know. How old were you when you got I'll show you guys. Literally, yeah, I sure did. Now I drink for a living. That's pretty great.
I know.
How old were you when you got your level one?
27.
Okay, that's a good time to have some direction in your life.
Ooh boy, I needed it.
Did you?
Yeah.
But that was neat, like, oh, look at this,
now I'm gonna do something cool.
Yes, genuinely.
And people talk to you like back home
and you're like, yeah, this is what I'm doing.
Holy shit.
No, they're like, oh, you still work at restaurants?
Cool.
Yeah.
I worked at a Greek restaurant and I was starting to do comedy and I would have to like come
back from the road and still wait tables for a few.
And people be like, didn't you graduate college?
And I'm like, yeah, but I'm, I wouldn't even, I just stopped talking.
I was just so embarrassed.
Yeah, welcome to my life. So how did you get a job at the French Laundry,
arguably or maybe it's not,
one of the greatest restaurants in the world?
Yeah, absolutely.
It was the best restaurant in the world
for a few consecutive years.
Where is it?
Napa, Yontville.
Passed my level two, I studied with Master Soms,
passed my level two,
was running a wine program in the Bay Area,
moved up to, or was gonna move up to Napa.
Had a, just a easy little job interview
at a winery in Yontville, and they hired me,
and I was like, great, but I was like, I look good.
I was in my interview attire.
I had my everything ready, and I like walked on the street.
I knew French Laundry was down the street.
I just kept walking, I couldn't find the front door
for like 10 minutes.
Is it because it's like cool?
Yeah, exactly. It's just so cool.
And I would never know.
Right? I know, it's so stupid.
And I finally found the front door
and it was unlocked and I went in
and there was two people standing there,
hilariously like the two best looking people
that worked at French Laundry at that time.
And so I was like, whoa, everyone here is beautiful.
Boys or girls?
One of each.
And I'm like, hey, my name's Sarah Foote.
I think you should hire me.
I think you're gonna wanna hire me. I wanna work here. And they were like, cool, my name's Sarah Foote. I think you should hire me. I think you're gonna wanna hire me.
I wanna work here.
And they were like, cool.
And they just took my resume
and I just assumed threw it away.
And then-
It's like talking to the front people
at Abercrombie and Fitch back in the day.
Yes, totally.
Like, hey, here, take me.
And they're like, oh, okay, but we're just hot.
Yeah, right, exactly.
And then they called me and then they hired me.
That's awesome.
Yeah, and I never worked in fine dining.
Wait, you did the interview. Yeah, well, yes. They called me and then they hired me. That's awesome. Yeah, and I had never worked in fine dining.
Wait, you did the interview.
Yeah, well, yes, they called me.
I went in, did an interview,
came in and did a second interview.
And then they're like, all right, go fit for your suits
and come back next week.
And what do they wear?
Hugo Boss suits when I was there.
Okay, they look sharp.
And I didn't know, I had only worked in semi-fine dining.
I had never worked in any Michelin star.
It was three Michelin star.
So that was a pretty aggressive and massive.
Thomas Keller, what kind of boss was he?
I was fortunate he was there a decent amount
while I worked because we, when I was there.
And you were at the sommelier, you weren't like.
No, I was on the service team.
I was not a sommelier there.
But front of house, I would help with wine if I could
and do whatever I possibly could to get there,
but that would have taken,
I would have had to be there much longer.
So again, I was fortunate, we opened the new kitchen
while I worked there, so he was present a lot.
And he's a presence.
You know, when he's in the room, I really enjoyed it.
I think that I learned more there
than I'll probably ever learn anywhere else ever again.
But it was a really, really amazing place to work.
Why are chefs allowed to be such assholes?
Is there like no HR department in the restaurant business?
That's the hardest work in person in the restaurant business.
So people are complaining to somebody.
Okay, because I've always just felt like they get away with murder in the restaurant business.
It's changing, it's changed a lot.
Even I went back to Napa and was talking to David Breeden,
who was the head while I was there.
And we started laughing super hard about some shit
that went down when I was there.
And he's like, we can't do that anymore.
Yeah, no, I mean, there used to be a pecking order
and then just all the incestual nonsense that would go on.
Always.
What's a meal cost you at the French Laundry
if you do everything right?
I think when I was there, it was $3.95 per person.
That doesn't include wine.
It does include tax and gratuity.
It doesn't include wine or any up charges
if you've got foie or wagyu or.
Biggest tip you ever received?
I don't know, couple thousand dollars.
I thought you were gonna say like,
one night on a guy's boat.
I don't know, weirdos there, right?
Oh, totally.
Yeah.
The super rich.
One, there was four people once that ate at Per Se,
which is Thomas Keller's other
three Michelin star restaurant, for lunch,
got on their private jet, flew to Napa, and then
ate at the French Laundry for dinner.
That's like six sticks of butter in one day.
Yeah, that's pretty cool though.
Yeah.
I like when people do stuff like that.
Yeah, same.
It's just silly.
Same.
After leaving the French Laundry, you took some time off to live on your mother's couch.
Loved it.
Where was she living at the time?
In Illinois, where I'm from.
Oh, because you just went back to your home couch.
Yeah.
Because you were just so drained.
Yeah, that had been years now
that I had been studying and working and doing whatever.
And when you work at French Laundry,
you don't have a lot of free time.
So you give up a lot, holidays, weddings, things like that.
So I was like, I'm just gonna go home.
I'm gonna go hang out with my family.
I have nieces and nephews, take them to the pool, hang out with my mom,
cook dinner, see my high school friends.
But nobody in Illinois really can wrap their head
around what the French laundry is.
No, I think someone asked me
if I did French people's laundry.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
But I got home. Okay, that sounds about right.
And I was like, I don't even know where to start.
It's a military operation.
Yeah. It's the best of the best of the best. Most people, I don't even know. I mean, it's a military operation. Yeah.
It's the best of the best of the best.
Most people are, I think most people that drink wine, obviously know this.
Not a lot of women in your field.
Yeah.
Right?
Right.
Why is that?
It's changing.
Well, why aren't there women in all fields?
Well, there are.
It's just, it's more than others. It was a boy's club.
Why is this a boy's club?
That's my question.
I have no idea.
In general, men think they know more about wine.
Sure. And also.
Oh, it's got to be fun.
Oh, it's super fun.
It's super fun.
And so I've learned, you know, I've been doing this long enough.
Like if I'm greeting someone, if I'm greeting a man, I never offer him help
Yeah, so I say have you made a selection or is there a bottle I can fetch for you?
Fetch fetch you use the word fetch. Yeah, I don't like that at all
That would be tree you know
I yell at my wife for when we go out out to restaurants? When the if the mail server says a joke that's not funny and she gives him a charity laugh,
I fucking stare at her.
I stared daggers at her and I said, don't you fucking make that guy feel like he's funny?
He's you know, he's not funny.
And you just did that for him.
Yeah, give it to him.
He's having a tough day.
I don't care if he's having a tough day.
He should know that he can't just come in and like,
ah, it infuriates me.
All right.
When some drunk chauvinist starts mansplaining wine to you,
how long do you let them ramble on
before you tell them that you're a sommelier?
Are we taught, so this is when I'm not in the restaurant?
I'm not in the restaurant.
This is my like, I love that.
And I just try to make them feel stupid
without them knowing.
But they know?
They do eventually, uh-huh.
And then they feel real bad.
Oh, that's good, some of them feel bad.
I bet some of them don't feel bad.
Yeah, I try to make them feel bad.
Do you trust customers when they say,
oh, this wine isn't good?
I'll smell it myself for sure, obviously.
Do you ever chug it in the back?
No, maybe.
I'm sure I have.
Have you ever pulled the old switcheroo
where you know this person doesn't know shit,
so you give them, they order something nice,
you keep the nice bottle and just give them something else?
Never.
That would truly be the least hospitable thing
you could ever do.
Of course, but I think maybe it's somebody
that talked down to you or you just like,
you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna show this.
No.
Then come back out and go, hey, dumb fuck.
That should go over well.
Hospitality is a little warmer than that.
Listen, I was in the restaurant business
and I wasn't good at it.
I bet.
But you know what I could do?
What?
I could write my name upside down
on the paper that was put down on the table
when I came and greeted them.
Wow.
I stole that move from the macaroni grill, I believe.
Blow people's minds and talk about how every grapevine
in Europe is grafted from an American vine.
Yeah, I remember learning that was crazy.
So phylloxera is a vine louse that got brought over to Europe
and negatively affected all the roots.
And so the American roots were resistant
and so everything got grafted on.
Basically all of Europe is planted on American root stock.
Look at that guys.
We're still number one.
USA.
This is what Trump is gonna do.
Oh God.
Yeah, there it is.
How you holding up after that election?
Huh?
Is rose wine good or is it for children? I don't think any wine is for children. Well, you know
You get what I was saying. Well, Rosé had a
Rosé all day. It had a whole marketing thing. Rosé is delicious. At what price point are
insanely expensive bottles of wine just a status and
massaging egos
of the assholes that can afford it.
On a wine list, 700.
That's the breaking point?
Yep.
Did that, there's a hush over the roof.
I know, I know, I know.
That's good, that's good.
None of us, none of us thought
we were gonna hear that number.
What did you think, it was gonna be lower?
Yes.
Oh, well I've been in Super Fine Dining for a long time,
so my friend and I talk about this a lot.
So anything over 700 is like, knock it off. So there's two people ordering that bottle. My friend and I have broken this down.
Okay. He runs the biggest list in Arizona. The first person is a really, really knowledgeable wine person. They have a deep seller.
They know what they're talking about. They know what they like. Typically that person spends between $200 and $400 on a bottle almost always. If they go over $700, they're celebrating.
It's a milestone birthday anniversary because they know what it costs, they can drink it
at home, but they'll come and have a DRC on their birthday because they can. And the other
person is just trying to flex on someone else at the table. That's it. Those are the only
two people. What is the most expensive bottle of wine
at most restaurants?
What price is that at?
Mine is 7,100.
$7,100.
Why not just make it 7,000?
Are they worlds better than a $75 bottle of wine?
Depends who you ask.
You.
Yes.
They're worlds better.
What's a world?
What kind of measurement is a world?
Well, you're the one that has the made up profession.
I believe you.
If you say no, no, to me it is.
There's a diminishing return.
You know, the difference, you could taste a difference between a $2 bottle and a $100
bottle.
You could likely say which one.
I can tell you that it tastes different.
I just don't enjoy the taste of it to begin with so that's just my own problem
Okay, so maybe not you specifically right most people can taste the difference between a $5 bottle and a $20 bottle or a $30
Bottle again once you go over a hundred retail it starts getting more difficult. There's like a diminishing return
Can you get an amazing wine for $8?
Amazing You answered it There's like a diminishing return. Can you get an amazing wine for $8? Amazing?
You answered it.
Are you picky about wine when you go out? Yes.
Particular is the word I like.
Costly is what I just heard.
Yep.
Yeah. Well, yeah.
Are you team Old World or New World Wine?
Both.
What's your favorite terroir?
Pfft.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
That's good.
Was that good?
Yeah.
All right.
Mm-hmm, terroir.
Terroir.
Ha ha ha.
I drink a lot of French wine.
You do?
I do.
What's the most expensive bottle of wine you've ever tasted?
And did it change your life?
Probably over 20,000. Did it change my life?
No.
It was good. It was great.
What's the most expensive bottle you've ever accidentally dropped and broke?
Ooh.
Uh, maybe like 200 bucks.
Huh.
Yeah, nothing too bad.
Barely, barely worth writing home about.
I mean, it would be worth it.
In Illinois, that would hit the front pages.
Is it true Two Buck Chuck sometimes has phenomenal bottles of wine because of how they acquire
their grapes?
Or is it just some myth Trader Joe's is peddling to move more of its toilet wine?
Well, private label stuff that you can get at grocery stores, some big grocery stores,
they'll buy fruit from really great producers.
Sometimes they just can't tell you who it's from, so it's like declassified fruit.
So technically, yes.
I don't think Charles Shaw is one of them, but there's some other labels that, yeah.
What region of the world is the blood of Christ from?
I don't think I'm going to answer that one.
Well, they normally serve in a church for communion.
I haven't been in a lot of years.
Our church always did grape juice when I was a kid.
Probably like boxed wine because it'll stay good longer maybe.
How advanced are you?
Can you identify the grape varietal and year if I pour you a glass of anything?
Not always, but sometimes. I blinded two wines last week,
and I called it Syrah from France,
but it was Syrah from New Zealand,
so I got the grape right in general age.
And then there was another one I called Pinot Gris
from Alsace, and it was Pinot Blanc from Alsace.
I mean, that to me is what I...
And there's somebody that can always get it right,
or there are always some guessing?
No one can always get it.
It's a grid and it's a deductive tasting.
So you're deducing.
So you're saying by color,
you're saying the color,
so you're essentially saying what it's not.
So if it's deep and ruby and rich
and you're saying it's not Pinot Noir,
it's not Nebbiolo, it's not Grenache,
so then you get through and you guess at the end.
Okay. You do, you have educated guess. Do you guess at the end. Okay.
You do, you have educated guess.
Do you do all this stuff with the wine?
I don't know what that means.
You know what it is, where it's like,
you're sticking your nose in, you're swishing,
you're doing all of that.
So blind tasting is a skillset that you have to hone
to become a sommelier and for exam purposes.
But I'm not often blinding anymore.
What I'm tasting for usually is for the list.
So I'm just tasting to see if it's sound,
if it makes sense, if it's price appropriate,
and if it's gonna go on the wine list.
But if you're a guest at a restaurant,
the only thing that you're tasting, smelling for is a fault.
You're just making sure it's not gross.
That's it.
Do all the different types of glasses for wines
that let them breathe, and what's the other
word I want open open does it do they really make that big of a difference
they make a difference they do make a difference it just depends on if it
matters to you or not these chunky bottle openers that are so big that can't
fit into any drawer and then when I put this stupid thing in a drawer you know
it's always the nice ones that just in a one pull but then then I open the drawer oh one
of the arms grabs on and now I've got to like whittle my skinny arm in to do some
more it's don't you feel everyone should be forced to use a corkscrew and a
corkscrew only sure and then you should have forcing people to do stuff okay
what do you what kind of bottle opener to use?
That's my question waiter. Just corkscrew easy. That's it. That's it and a knife
There's one on there. Yeah, and then if it's an old bottle
I've got a Durand is a tool that I use these questions are not from me. These are questions
From Carrie my wardrobe stylist, by the way
This is fucking the itchiest thing
I've had on in quite some time.
Great, can't wait to hear her questions.
Is organic wine better for you?
Well, okay, so, you know, viticulture's everything
that happens before the vine and the grape is picked.
Viniculture's everything that happens after.
Organic is really only talking about the first half,
so maybe.
Is it bad to put ice cubes in your rose?
No, who cares?
Who invented frozen and can we make it stop?
I don't know, probably not.
Why are pours so small in foodie restaurants?
If you're doing a tasting menu,
you're gonna get a two to three ounce pour.
It depends, and then your pours are five or six ounces
everywhere else.
Why do wine pairings at at a ten course fine dining restaurant involve an insane amount of alcohol?
Because you're paying for it. It's usually pretty expensive. It's so much
Yeah, is it okay to share a pairing? Yes, that's not frowned on no not by me. Okay
Why is sincere so delicious?
mmm Why is Sancerre so delicious? Mmm. Sancerre's a little subregion of the Loire Valley in France
that plants exclusively Sauvignon Blanc.
And I call it like the ballerina of Sauvignon Blanc.
Mm-hmm.
New Zealand can be grapefruity and grassy and super paroxenic,
and then California can be ripe and pineapple-y and sometimes oaked,
and then Sancerre just sits in the middle,
pulls a little bit from each.
Why does red wine cause sleepless nights?
Well, that seems like a deeper question.
I don't know, people are affected by different things,
probably the alcohol.
Why can't the people who pour tastings in wine country
tone down the spiel for guests who really don't give a shit.
You could just lead with that.
You could say, I don't give a shit.
I'm here to...
Okay.
Because sometimes just, I'm like, there's no way anybody
that's at this tasting is processing a word
that's coming out of their mouth.
And they're just trying to,
they have to sell wine to make money.
So they're just trying to weave the web
and make a story and get you drunk enough
to sign up for the wine club.
I just like hearing about the land
and how they built the house
and how when a fire came through,
they were out there with the hose.
These are those, that's always what impresses me.
Then I want to buy a barrel
and they're like, what are you going to do with it?
Am I going to turn into a video game console or something?
And then we just have a good time.
You have any barrels in your house?
I do not.
Do you like it when people repurpose a barrel or something?
You don't find it charming?
Not even a little bit.
What about in a cabin setting?
You're still against it?
No.
I can't come up with a scenario where you think it's cute?
Probably not.
What's your favorite place in Europe to vacation?
My favorite wine region I've ever been to is Alsace.
Forget wine region.
Is there another region?
That's all I do.
Mm-hmm, okay.
Yeah, all of my travels surround wine regions.
So, what was it?
Alsace, northeast.
It borders Germany.
I was born in Germany.
I don't remember it though.
You know what I found out recently
that my mom just blew my mind with?
I just, we were talking about going to Portugal or something and she goes, I don't remember it though. You know what I found out recently that my mom just blew my mind with?
I just, we were talking about going to Portugal
or something and she goes,
oh, I lived there for two years.
I would move back in a second.
I was like, what?
I didn't even, never knew she lived.
There's just something horrible
about how you don't realize how much life your parents had
before you were born.
Her sounds really cool.
Just selfish.
I'm just a selfish son.
I should call her and check in on her.
Everybody's on the show gets gifts.
It's just stuff from my house.
A lot of his friends.
First thing I'm giving you, okay?
That's awesome.
Full bottle oxy clean.
Now the reason I'm putting this out.
Looks like a half bottle, but sure.
What?
It hasn't been used yet?
No, but that's like a small format.
No, no, this is-
Sure, okay.
Please, okay?
I do know how much OxiClean I go-
I have two young kids.
Everything has to get sprayed, okay?
And I'm guessing you're having some wine spilled.
Sure.
So I'm like, why don't I just give you a bottle of this?
But the real reason I'm giving this to you
is because I want OxiClean to start sending me
free crates of this shit, okay?
Because all I do is spray all my kids' laundry
all day long with OxiClean.
Oh, that's Max Force, that's good stuff.
You're gonna love that.
Thank you.
Okay, this, I got, this was in my house,
no idea where it came from.
It's a teeth whitening.
Oh!
I'm thinking with wine every now and then, who knows?
Love that.
There you go, this. now this, this is,
this is nice. You are going to like this. First of all, okay.
The bags, aren't they nice? This is, it's not wine.
Oh, I thought it was going to be wine.
I know. Oh, don't worry about it. Um, somebody,
somebody got this for myself. I think, uh,
one of my wife's siblings, I don't know,
got him a water bottle, my kid,
but it's got a crystal in it.
It was like a hundred bucks or something.
I don't know what it was.
It's supposed to do something to the water.
And I'm like, listen,
just because my kid's in California and has long hair,
I don't need to set them up for failure in life.
All right? I bet I could put wine in there you do whatever you want with it
It's got a crystal in it. Okay, and it's never been used and it's by the way
Do you have you heard of these water sommeliers? Mm-hmm. Is that just bullshit? No
Well, you've got a crystal bottle of water
Good luck bringing that through security anywhere. That thing is stupid.
Thank you. You're taking that. This has to come off the table. Okay. Speaking of them, there's a
two-fer... They got a... This is an old book of cheese. It's from William Sonoma. Like, I don't...
It's faded. It's just like been in a shelf. I don't... Do you like cheese? I love cheese.
Oh man, this is awful.
What is it?
Is it just a read about cheese?
Is that what I'm supposed to fucking do?
It looks great.
It looks great.
Well, whatever, that's yours.
Thank you.
It is really faded.
I don't know, don't thumb it now.
This is the bottle my wife was drinking two nights ago.
She didn't finish it.
I figured you could have the rest of it if you wanted.
Thank you so much.
That's how much she left after drinking.
That's a very funny amount to leave.
Agree.
Yeah.
And she, I go, this isn't the refrigerator.
I'm like, what is it?
It's an ounce and a half.
Is that, is that shit wine that she was drinking?
Say it.
I won't.
It's shit, huh?
I will not.
But it is?
I won't say that.
Okay.
Why won't you say that? I won't speak negatively about wine. Oh, they? I will not. But it is? I won't say that. Okay. Why won't you say that?
I won't speak negatively about wine.
Oh, they can't hear you?
They can and will.
The wine?
No, the winemaker, the humans.
Oh, God.
I thought you didn't want to hurt the wine's humans.
Humans.
Because, you know, it's at the end of its life
when it's poured into a glass.
Sure, sure, sure. I was going back to that
and that you were like, no, no, no, shh.
Let them go out peacefully.
Which is also a kind of thing to do.
So you're not, you just go finish that off for me.
Okay.
No, you don't.
Fine, nobody's taking that.
And we're not gonna talk bad about the wine.
No, I made wine in New Zealand
and it taught me not to speak negative about it so hard.
It's probably is it a relative small circle, even though it's global?
You know all these players.
What do you say to all these people that are trying to tell us that any amount of alcohol is bad for us?
Over it. Hate that.
I hate that. I do a bit hate that.
So, okay.
I say that because I've been to a lot of wine regions
and the amount of 80, 90 year old people
that are completely mentally sound and physically sound
more so than a lot of other countries
have been drinking a bottle of wine a day
since they were like six and they're cruising.
So you think that I should offer my six year old a bottle of wine?
I don't think I should say that.
No, no.
Uh, I mean, I, I don't, I have nothing to argue with what you're saying,
but I also am like, well, just because somebody drinks a bottle of wine and
lives to be a hundred and healthy, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is healthy.
Sure.
Sure.
But I also think that it's being like,
it's the devil in the conversation.
I think binge drinking is probably terrible.
I think whatever's going into, yeah,
if you're like taking shots of fireball,
that might not be the best.
But if you're having like a bottle of wine
that was made down the street
and has nothing added to it.
All right, so Sarah, you brought some wines for me to taste.
I'm a little congested. Will that affect me? Yeah, of course, okay
Let's go
Well, let's watch her open a bottle so quickly and so fun
Is that your special?
No, no, I was good since you give gifts. I was gonna give you a used corkscrew from my car center console
Since you give gifts, I was gonna give you a used corkscrew from my car center console.
Why is it from your car? It always happens.
That seems like it's a problematic if you get pulled over.
No, it's not like I'm, I don't have wine.
Okay, what do I have to do?
Well, we're not gonna walk all the way through because when I was telling you-
Do I need to do that?
Sure.
That's kind of, oh and then you just let it go.
Mine wasn't doing it.
Mine wasn't going pretty.
There you go, there you go.
I was using my left hand before.
Oh, okay.
And then dig your nose in there and take a big sniff.
Do you smell anything?
Yeah, it smells like all alcohol.
Okay, so this is Riesling from the Finger Lakes.
Ah. Yeah.
From New York. You ever spend any time in the Finger Lakes?
Yeah, I went there once.
It was awesome.
It's pretty, right?
It's beautiful.
So I have different people have different tells.
So I have like certain things that I smell in wine and I know it can guide me to what the wine is.
So I have two tells for Riesling and I want to see if you get if you smell either of them after I tell you what they are.
So my first tell is lime jello.
Fuck off.
Come on.
No, I don't smell lime jello.
Yes you do.
I'm the other, the 10%, whatever.
Sure, and you're congested, so that's not ideal.
No, I can smell fine now that my nose is in here. And and then my other one is it's either petrol or like Vaseline. Oh
Dig it back in there
petrol
Get it. Mm-hmm
But I think I'll say that oh am I supposed to taste it sure
We're not going by any rules. I just want you to I just like changing people's minds on reasoning
So also people usually think reasoningiesling is really sweet.
Okay.
And this is not.
What do you think?
It's delicious.
It's delicious.
It's fine. It seems good.
Alright, we're only gonna do one more.
Because I want to do one food.
You want me to do one with food?
Just a little bit of food.
What kind of food do you have to eat?
Blue cheese.
Blue cheese?
Oh.
You hate blue cheese really?
Yeah.
All right, then we won't do it.
I mean, I'll eat a little blue cheese.
I just don't like a lot of blue cheese.
She's gonna pair well with whatever she has.
It is.
Am I supposed to finish this?
You can.
Yeah, yeah.
My stomach's growling.
Oh man, look at this.
So this was one of my first wine pairings with food.
Any jello that I'm supposed to smell on this one?
I don't know, you tell me.
Blackberry jello?
No, all right, what do I need to know about this?
So this was one of my favorite things
that changed the way that I feel about food of mine.
So actually we're gonna sip the wine first.
So this is vintage port.
So it's gonna be kind of viscous and heavy on the tongue
and really rich and sweet.
So sip the wine first.
Sip it.
It's sweet, it's thick, it's delicious.
Take a little piece of blue cheese.
Take a little piece of blue cheese. Take a little piece of blue cheese.
Oh, oh, that's a big piece.
You still can cut it in half.
Yep, good.
Eat it and then immediately drink the port.
It like cancels each other, it mellows each other out.
It's just, it's disgusting. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, that's just.
That's just.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And by the way.
I'm so glad I brought these wines.
Sarah, I know I'm wrong.
I know I'm wrong.
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
But like I could gag.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, that's technically a perfect pairing.
I still have blue cheese in my mouth.
I can still feel blue cheese.
Here we go.
There we go.
Oh man, so much blue cheese.
You have the tiniest beef.
It's so thick.
It like coats your teeth.
Yum.
It's so good with vintage port.
But this goes with everything.
Sure.
It goes with a lot.
A lot.
A ton.
Most things.
Oh my God, he's eating the cheese.
Sorry, your dog's eating the blue cheese.
Carl, give him the port so that he can balance it out.
Carl, come here boy.
Come, come over here.
How, we'll reimburse you.
Carl, come here.
How was, do you wanna balance out the blue cheese?
Are you having fun?
Do you say, oh, I like this life?
Yes. That's good.
Oh yeah. I love it.
Where are you, where are you gonna end up? You're gonna stay? Probably in the south of France. Oh, good for you. That's good. Oh yeah, I love it. Where are you gonna end up?
You're gonna stay?
Probably in the south of France.
Oh, good for you.
That's pretty.
Making teas maybe.
When you die, are you gonna have your ashes thrown
in a vineyard and then we can drink you?
I wanna go in the wine, yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
That's kinda cool.
That would be cool.
I don't think I've ever thought about that.
Then you could save a couple bottles forever
and be like, yeah, one day I'm going to drink my great grandpa. Well, we're going to dump you into some soil and we're going to
drink you later. Picking up notes of cortisone. Yeah. All right. Listen, Sarah, I just, I wish
you all the best in the upcoming volleyball season. Thank you for being here.
Thank you for having me.
And thank you for teaching me a little something about wine.
And you know, the rest is on me.
Thanks for having me.
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Thank you, Sarah, for being on the show. I confirmed so much. Still don't like wine. What are you going to do? But she did remind me, Carl, that we must check in on my mother.
Let's see if she answers.
She's getting wise to this prank.
She's like, if you FaceTime, I know you want to talk to me.
Hey, how are you doing physically?
Just checking in on your wellbeing, social check.
I'm feeling just fine. Thank you. We have a cool day today. physically just checking in on your wellbeing, social check.
I'm feeling just fine, thank you. We had a cool day today.
It was nice outside.
It was like seven, 68 or 70, and it was windy and nice.
And I'm feeling fine, thank you.
Just fine?
I'm fine.
You getting your Jesus steps in today?
Grandpa got a new recliner. Oh.
I said that's going to be his last one, so that's it.
Oh, yeah?
That's a pretty good update.
Hey, I was going to send you some photos I just saw of some women with white hair that
was just mid-length.
Maybe that would be something that...
Oh, please.
Quit trying to fix me up.
All right.
I'm too old.
I don't like long gray hair and long white hair.
It's white hair, it's not gray.
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful white hair.
It's beautiful, yeah.
That's good.
All right, do you have anything to say to Carl?
Carl's here, he's sitting next to me.
You wanna talk to Carl?
Is Eddie there?
Eddie's here, of course sitting next to me. You wanna talk to Carl? Is Eddie there? Eddie's here, of course.
Okay, well talk nicely.
I don't like your conversation sometimes.
All right.
You got it.
Anything for you, Mr. Sash.
Bye, love you.
Love you, bye.
No, I don't blame her.
I don't blame her.
Eddie, you say some stupid shit sometimes.
We got some plugs. We got the tours. Eddie Gosling, Daniel Tosh, dot coms. Check out our tours. Buy some merch from the show. ToshShowStore.com.
Get yourself some cool ToshShow merch.
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Check that out before it's gone, gone, gone.
Now it's time for the free plugs.
Oh yeah.
Let's do some music.
Holy moly.
Okay. If you're in Toledo, Ohio and God, why would you be?
If you're looking for a Magic the Gathering League.
Okay. That checks out.
Head down to Checkmate Games and Hobbies on Central Avenue.
Every Friday evening, they run a fun and friendly Commander Magic League.
All right.
That begins at 6 PM, runs in six week cycles.
So one entry fee gets you access to all six weeks.
Well, that's a bargain.
Uh, you can enter by either paying $10 or buying a commander pre-constructed
deck or buying two packs of card sleeves.
I literally know what none of those words meant.
This league is different, however, because winning is not the only goal.
Oh, good.
That's great
Special goal cards have been created worth varying points that create opportunities to play decks
You might not have or in a different way than you were used to
Each night depending on your goal achievement you will earn points that at the end of each cycle, you can redeem for in-store rewards.
Okay, I get that.
I get that.
Okay, you get points and then you can get prizes.
What kind of prizes do you think they have?
If you or a friend loves magic and wants a great place to play for some awesome prizes,
come discover Checkmate Games on Friday nights.
See you next week.
Hi, I'm David Boren.
And I am his dear friend, Langston Kerman.
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We just did a spectacular live show with some of your favorite comedians on the planet.
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We want to speak out and we want this to stop.
Wow, very powerful.
I'm Ellie Flynn, an investigative journalist, and this is my journey deep into the adult
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I really wanted to be a player boy, my doll.
He was like, I'll take you to the top.
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To expose an alleged predator and the rotten industry he works in.
It's honestly so much worse than I had anticipated. We're an army in comparison to him.
From Novel, listen to The Bunny Trap on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and my latest interview is with Wiz Khalifa.
The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either
be in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself.
He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor.
Which one of the one, the only, Khalifa.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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