S3E7: To the Highway
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00:33I couldn't believe this was happening.I couldn't believe this was happening.Just then I heard someone comingI pulled my gun and spun aroundBut it was AmberShe jumped at me pushing my gun downWith one hand and pressing her other against my mouthHer eyes were wide
01:06She was scaredShe took a moment to look aroundAnd then dropped her hand freeing my mouthWhat the hell?Someone's hereWho? I started looking aroundnervouslyI don't know but they took my backpack
01:22I looked over my shoulder to see herpack hanging there by one strap. That one? They dropped it. I think. I think I scared them off.How do you know it was a person? She too was looking around nervously. It could have just been ananimal. No, Mike. I heard whispers. My anger had quickly subsided. A chill now ran down my spine.I remembered my fight with the rats. How the whispers floated through the air. How they hadattacked, scratched at me, and hissed.They almost killed me.We need to leave.
01:58I agree. We, uh, uh, we can follow the ridge.Okay.Here.She tried handing me the gun back.What? No, you keep it.You sure? I don't want you to think I...It's fine. I'm more worried about what's out there.I motioned to the dark woods, although I realized it didn't take much for me to be skeptical of Amber again.
02:26As much as I wanted to trust her completely, I'm still a bit wary.Let me guess. You're pretty upset to see me gone?Yeah, I thought you were up to something.By the way, you shouldn't run off like that.I know. I'm sorry.Hey, I thought it was just an animal at first, a raccoon or possum dragging my bag away.I did try to shake you a weight when I grabbed your gun, but you just must.mumbled something in thrash.
02:52It seemed like you were having quite the dream.You needed a gun for a raccoon?I wanted a gun because I wasn't sure what it was yet.After everything that's happened...She motioned to her bandaged head.When did you hear the whispers?When I reached the path, I saw something jet into some bushes.It was too big to be a raccoon, so I figured it was a bear.
03:17Then, when the whispers came,You hear what they said?No, but it sounded like it came from a few directions.You mentioned there were a lot of them, right?Aaron said 12, but I don't know how many there'd be now,because he also said Iris took out some.I only saw the one get killed, so who knew how many were out there now?I'm scared, Mike.
03:44We both kept looking over our shoulders as we walked along the ridge.Talking about this gave me goosebumps along my arms,a neck.I'm thinking about what you said happened to that guy.Lance?Yeah.I can't get that image out of my head.Well, that one, and then one of a guy who tried to kill me.
04:02It was the same person.I tried to kill you?Yes.It was grotesque.Long, straggly hair, pale and bony.Scars, crooked teeth.And the lightning flashed, I saw his eyes.His sunken eyes.
04:18one of which was messed up milkyhe lifted the rock and I thoughtI thought that was itoh Jesusyeahit was terrifying hearing the whispersand then you shoutingsorry but
04:38no I know I understandpromise I'll shake you harder next timeshe forced to smileso did Iwe both had our goodguns out as we walked, just in case they were out there, following us.Who do you think they are? The rats.Aaron called them subjects.
04:58They're obviously doing some kind of weird experimenting in that lab.We both look to the ground, imagining what could be below us right now.But who could they be?I shrugged. I didn't have any answers.I was hoping Amber did long ago.As we walked, I continued to watch the woods to our left, just waiting for one of them to come running up.Hey, keep watch for a minute.What are you doing?
05:32I didn't have a chance earlier to see if they took anything.How about this? No more sleeping until we get to the highway.I'm good with that.How long will that take?Long time.What? Really?a good 30 miles from this point.Maybe more.
05:53But we might be able to shave off a couple miles by not following the trail.Not what I wanted to hear, but at least it meant it would be daylight by the time we reached it.Excepts.Oh, no.It was always an accept or an although or butt.Except what?Oh, wait.I found it.
06:12Your compass?Yeah.I was worried for a second.The zipper was just stuck inside the pocket.Some stuff was taken though.Like what?My bathroom bag, my thermos, one of my books, and it looks like some of my clothes.Oh man.
06:34What?And the banana chips.I thought about the time I went from my supply drop, how N.J. had raided it.That seemed so long ago.But was it?Although I got to thinking, N.J. wanted my hands.help but he was like the other so he was a rat if that was the case why were theother rats attacking me I tried helping in J did they not realize did they not
07:00know or did it just not matter to them now that NJ was dead where the hell missingsomething else oh wait she patted her back pocket and pulled out a crumpledpiece of paper oh good I have it what is that she stopped walking in turnto face me. I still have so much to tell you. Okay, but not here. Let's get off this ridge.We both looked into the dark forest a moment where the wind moved the leaves on the groundever so slightly. The constant noise that made it hard to know if we were being followed or watched.Yeah, okay. This way.We're going to be able to be.
08:18For the past hour we didn't talk too much.We were both still nervous.But we didn't hear any whispers or see any movementthe whole time we walked along the ridgeother than the occasional rustling of leaves.Now he had descended and walked through a large areaof two-foot-high grass.Windwalk is still to our right.
08:45We have to keep with it because of the terrain.Otherwise, I would say we should cut more diagonal.You'd know better than me.Except I'm not sure what the overall plan is, Mike.Are we really planning to walk the entire way?Or are we eventually hoping to flag down a car?What's the closest town? Moran?Sure.
09:08Is there a police station in Moran?No. Moran probably has a population of five people.Jackson, I think, would be the closest station.Maybe Du Bois?They have highway patrolAnd those are a lot farther thanMoran, I'm sureThat's right
09:25I think our best bed is to hitch a rideBut if they watch the highwayOh maybe we can scope it outOkay because if we don't get a rideExpect a couple more days of walking after MoranI didn't want thatI wanted out of these fucking woodsThe sky was finally lightning
09:47The sun was not yet physicalbut it would be soon.I'm getting hungry.Wish I had those banana chips.I'm just thirsty.Wish I had my thermos, too.I had water in there,but there's a creek not too far from the highway.
10:04Okay.Windwalk has a cache,but I don't know where it is exactly.Do you know the code?They're not locked over here.Right, just around my towerbecause the woods over there are closed to the general public.Yeah.
10:18I think after all this I'm going back to data entry.I don't blame you.So, no cash.Thought you didn't know where it was.I don't, but didn't know if you wanted to look.No, let's continue off the trail.She nodded in agreement.Do you think we're safe, Mike?
10:44We haven't heard or seen anything.But I keep getting the feeling we're being...watched. I felt that too, but I decided to downplay it. I think we're okay right now. They wanted toattack they would have already. So they just wanted to steal some banana chips in my shampoo?I remember Inj had a lot of random stuff in his cave. Maybe he took some of it from hikers.He ever take banana chips, though? Actually, yeah, for me.Oh.We walked in silence another ten minutes, but I could see Amber's mouth twitching slightly.
11:18Like she wanted to blurt something out.I was just about to ask what it was when...It just pisses me off so much.What?Gene didn't warn me about this.He didn't say anything when I told him of the body.Just that he was coming out with the police.What if those people showed up at my tower?
11:34The rats?Yeah.Do you think he knew?I don't know what to think anymore.I felt like we were about to get back into Amber's backstory since now we weren't so on edge.The brightening sky definitely helped ease our worries.Not that we couldn't be attacked during the day.I was never sure how much Gene knew about what was going on,
11:55but it also was never as serious as this.You didn't think to ask more when he told you about Tower 4 three years ago?I did, but he didn't have many answers.He told me what I needed to do and where Tower 4 was located.They wanted someone in Tower 3 to help keep tabs on the occupants of Tower 4.He suggested me because I was easy to talk to.Seems to me like it was all a ploy to get you close to him againAce believed the same thing
12:22And deep down I realized that tooBut I still couldn't pass it upWell by that time you were already in Wyoming right?RightAt that point I couldn't say noI didn't know much about being a fire lookoutBut Jean was one for a short time before becoming a rangerSaid it was easy
12:41And he would be able to talk to me anytime I needed himHe needed himDid he say anything about giving the first guy Sam to stay?My first day, Gene hikes out with me, shows me around,and before he leaves the next morning,he gives me a little information about a guy named Sam Taverson,a newbie like me.Says that Sam is going through some stuff,
13:05that all I have to do is talk and be friendlyand pass on all the information about the tower that he gave me.Again, I asked what was it for.He said that it had to do with a company,and they were helping people with...problems, I guess. Being out here was almost, shoot, what was the word?Therapeutic.But you're not a therapist.
13:26Trust me, I know. I've mentioned that to Jean many times.And whenever I got a little too involved, Jean reminded me as well.Too involved?Like with you.Oh. She looked away embarrassed.But why was that?So, uh, what about the other?towers. Tower two and one. What about them? The people that are stationed there. You mean
13:53Vic? Sure, he said it was hard to talk to him, or was that an excuse to keep me on the radio more?No, it wasn't. Victor Pascal is very much an old grump. How long's he been a fire lookout?No, I don't know. Well, longest of anyone? Eight years, maybe. What about Tower One?That's Wesley Devine.What about him?I don't know much about Wes.I've only seen him a couple of times in the off-season.And the only tower that can reach one is two.
14:25Do you know how long he's been a lookout in Tower 1?Less than Vic, but more than me.Maybe five years?Yeah, I think it was five this season.So why the high turnaround in Tower 4?That was the only tower being used by the company?I guess.It's the only area of the forest that's closed off.
14:44I figured it was because this company, whoever they are.Iris.Sure, but I didn't know that at the time.My first thought was they were using it as a rehabilitation center, which I was all for, you know, helping people.But rehab? Rehab? Rehab for what? Drugs and alcohol?She shrugged and then shifted the weight of her pack.You have to have some idea.I don't. And Gene didn't either.
15:10So Gene knows nothing about this company that operates in his woods?It's not his woods, MikeOkay, sure, butThey just own a section of the forestIt's more than thatGene was hired as a ranger hereThen a year or two laterThis company came in
15:26Fired the chief ranger and promoted GeneBut how does that happen? National parks are owned by the governmentMaybe they were backedI don't knowI thought it was odd tooBut I figured with everything going on recentlyLike slashed park funding all over the U.S.Maybe certain parks were bought
15:44and became privately owned.Trust me, I thought about looking into it.I wanted to.But Gene didn't want me prying,since he was making way more money as head honcho.So Gene isn't just a ranger.He's chief ranger?Yep.
15:59Why'd they fire the last guy?Gene said Mills wasn't a team player.That's how they put it.That doesn't seem odd, do you?No, why would it?People get fired for all kinds of reasons.But if they only own a section out here,presumably just around Tower 4, how can they have any say over who runs all of a national forest?
16:18I told you, I don't know.I would think they'd have no jurisdiction.Well, somehow they did.So Gene doesn't know what Tower 4 was or is being used for.I stopped, causing Amber to stop.I really wanted her to focus on this answer, and I think she noticed how important it was to me.Gene's a known liar.It's possible he knows
16:43Some, but I doubt he knowsTo the extent of everything you've told meI don't think he was lying when he believed the woods were getting to youHe had people he had to answer to withinIrisMills wasn't a team playerBut Gene wanted to beStill
17:01Also, MikeGene downplayed our relationshipI don't think he wanted them to know we had a pastHe wouldn't have suggested secretphone calls otherwise. We were never sure if the company was listening in somehow, so weplayed it safe. Don't you guys live together? Don't the other Rangers know? Kind of. We don'tpost to social media. We don't live close to anyone else, and we don't broadcast it. PDA isnon-existent here. Now, that being said, we think some people did catch on and just decided to remain
17:37silent. There's also sometimes where our conversations over the radio do get a little toopersonal. So if Iris was listening, they may have known and just didn't care. Why do you say that?Because I've been back three years now. I have to be doing something right. Oh, I was slowly processingeverything she was saying. If you two thought there was a chance Iris was listening into conversationsover the radio, how did you think they were doing that?You didn't know about the bunker or lab, right?Oh, hell no.Not here.
18:12Gene said something about them having facilities all around the country.One was supposed to be in Casper.So then how would they listen in?Gene believed they had capabilities, possibly even a mole.A mole?One of the other rangers figured that's how they got mills.Forced them out.But also...
18:34What?Now that I think about it.but maybe he thought your place was bugged.That's why he didn't want to come into my tower, right?Yeah, they were tracking me too.I don't know if they ever really listened in to our conversations,but Gene seemed a little paranoid about it.But all the secrecy and lies, was it really worth it?
18:55They pay really well, and that made it worth it to Gene.Plus, you've got to realize.I never knew anything sinister was happening out here.And I don't think Gene knew to this extent eitherBecause for as shitty as a person Gene isI don't believe he would knowingly put me in dangerYou may be, but not meHuh
19:19We started walking againSo when did you find out about Iris?The name?The company.Mike, I didn't know anything about the company.How?Gene told me I shouldn't ask.Really?
19:36He was worried if we dug too deep or asked too many questions, we'd be out like Mills.But the curiosity never got the better of you?Every so often, when I walked by Jean's desk at home or in his office at the station,I'd sneak peeks.But I never really saw anything.Wow.Is it really that crazy?I'm just surprised you wouldn't have more questions.
19:58Of course I had questions, but why ask them if you're not going to get any answers?I shrugged.I still ask Jean stuff from time to timeAnd I did wonder sometimes if the company was messing with youHow?Like with the musicAndAnd Gene didn't believe they would do that
20:17Or could do thatBut like he would knowSo he really never asked any questions either?I don't think he would rock the boatDid you two ever debate what was going on?After the first seasonWe ran through a ton of ideasLike?
20:34rehabilitation, behavioral studies, um, isolation due to transmittable diseases, although that one didn'treally make much sense. Oh, we thought maybe it was drug testing related, or maybe even a dare.A dare?We really thought about everything.Would you ultimately settle on?We believed the people in Tower 4 must have had to deal with high levels of stress or depressionand exhaustion from a former job.So that's what I and Gene thought you were, a former worker for the company.
21:10For Iris.Yeah.There's a reason why we talked more about family life relationships, movies, music, and politics than we did jobs.What?On our introductions.Did you think I was lying then?No.I never mentioned Iris.
21:29You mentioned data entry.that was good enough for meI shouldn't have stopped again but I didAmber turned toward meMikeit's just for as long as we talkedwe still didn't really know that much about each otherhuh
21:43she looked at me with soft eyesI don't feel that wayMikeyI don't feel that way at allI don't feel that way at allI don't know.I don't know.I'm going to be.
22:07I'm going to be.Okay, okay. Let's get back. Let's get back on track.first day of your first season. She told me all about Sam Taverson, or everything she could.She said Sam never talked much. Often Jean would try and get Amber to engage more, but it didn't work.Sam was a man a few words. You took notes? I always took notes. Gene said it would be a good idea,just so we could track how he was coming along. Coming along? I don't know. I honestly think it wasaway from me to pass time. The company asked for the notes at the end of the season the last two years.But my notes were all over the place.
23:12I highly doubt they were that helpful.Hell, they didn't even keep them.That's why Gene thought, maybe they're just listening themselves.They're listening.What?Jesus Christ, it makes so much sense they're listening.Fill me in, Mike.The note I told you about.
23:30The notebook, which I believe to be Jerry's notebook.It still could be his.He probably knew they were listening the whole time.Maybe the message was for the next Tower 4.Or occupant.Maybe.N.J. knew it, too.I always thought he met you and possibly Gene, but she looked over at me, awkwardly.
23:50I'm sorry you went through all this.You took notes on me, right?In the beginning, yes.Why not later?Because I didn't feel like it anymore.That's it?Yes.Because the puzzle started taking up all of your time?
24:05No.Then why?She bit her lip and looked away a moment.What do you want me to say?The truth, Amber.That's all I ever wanted.The truth.I got bored of it, okay?
24:19But the other guys, it was easy because we never talked all that much.And honestly, the conversations I did have with them were lackluster.But with you, it was different.And I guess I just didn't feel it necessary to jot down every past relationship or Star Wars debate.Okay, sorry. While I was smiling, Amber wasn't.Was she upset or thinking about something else?I decided to get back to the conversation.So, go on about Sam.
24:53Oh, right.She told me Sam seemed a little off halfway through the season.Not only was he short with her when they did talk, it was always random nonsense.Like what?I don't know. He hated his last job.He would go off on all the people he worked with and how they were all incompetent.He just seemed like a pissed-off dude, a Debbie Downer that was full of himself.Still, Gene poked and prodded me to continue, which I didn't want to do because I wanted to avoid job talk, but I continued.
25:25What made Sam seem off?He started having hallucinations, or what I thought were hallucinations at the time.But no shaking trees, no music over the radio?No, not that I remember.But there is one thing that stuck with me.What?He always mentioned flashing red and white lights.Like, he saw them?
25:49He saw flashing lights?Yeah, randomly.But he also had dreams of them.I remember once jokingly mentioning aliens, and, uh, well, he didn't find it so funny.Why'd you joke about that?I guess the flashing lights reminded me of close encounters of the things.third kind. I thought maybe Sam was having a dry-fist moment outside in the woods, making asculpture of Devil's Tower with rocks or something. Anything else? No. Most of the time we talked,
26:17it was all business. Sly drops, fires, storms, stuff like that. I think he gave up sharing thereal weird stuff after I teased him. But I wasn't teasing out of... Malice?Sure. It's just my personality. But I can see how it comes across that way.Now that I say it out loud.And now that you have more context.I still shouldn't have.Maybe I didn't know to the extent I do now.But I still believe that these people are going through some real emotions.
26:50I didn't have to be such a douche.That's a little harsh.You think?What about my big foot crack?When I described my experience at Enos Lake, I couldn't care less.I'd rather hear that than bear one more damn time.But okay, so the weird stuff like the lights started getting mentioned halfway through the season.Sure, but then it trickled off.
27:13Probably due to my insensitivity.So nothing more?I mean, one time he did mention someone watching him.The only mentioned that once.I figured it was a hiker.Nothing else after that?Not that I remember.We didn't talk much at all the last month, if I remember correctly.
27:30So Sam stayed the whole season?He did.Okay, so the season ends and then what?Then I go home.Gene's home.It became our home.Right.You ever meet Sam?
27:42Yeah, on the last day.It was a bit awkward.Why didn't he come back for another season?Gene said he didn't like the job.It was too much for him.You believe that?She shrugged.I just felt bad.
27:55Because of the teasing?No, because it seemed like this place didn't help, which was hard to believe.Why?Because it helped me.What do you mean?Not on the same level.level is Sam, but I mean, personally. I liked being out here. I was depressed because I thought I madea huge mistake taking Jean back, choosing to move in with him. But after your first year, you didn't
28:19feel that way? After my first season out here, I didn't. But in the off season, once Jean and I werespending more time together, let's just say I long to come back out here again. Even two days aweek with Gene seemed like too, too many.Oh, for the following season, you were happy.Yep, and that next season we get Jerry Campbell.That's when Jean and I and even some of the other Rangersstarted wondering what Tower Four was really for.An isolated work retreat?
28:50She gave me a look of sarcasm.Did the other Rangers ever pry?That's a question for Gene.I know they were told to stay out of the closed section.So it was all right for me, but not Force Rangers.It's like that guy said, right, Mike?You were chosen.The way she said that gave me goosebumps along my arms.
29:10I think I ever saw my unease.Sorry.It's okay.So after your first season, you never thought anymore about the flashing lights?About Sam?No.But Gene warned me about how the woods in the loneliness can mess with people.I was fine, but that didn't mean everyone would share my same experience.
29:30Sam obviously didn't.Whatever he was going through, whether it was stress or depression or some kind of past demons, the isolation didn't help.A branch cracked not far from us, causing us both to freeze.See anything?No.We waited a good 30 seconds until the animal appeared.Young buck, it came out from behind a grouping of bushes, flicked its ears twice and made its way up over a hill.I guess we're both still a little on edge.
30:06Yeah, but then suddenly the deer came flying back over the hill,bouncing and weaving between bushes.What the?What's it running from?We both pulled our guns.I don't know.Twenty seconds later, I did.I heard it coming.
30:22Helicopter.Over here.We ran under the cover of tall ferns, Bruce trees, and crouched.The helicopter was coming in the moment.Attention, attention. This is a red flag warning.Fires are moving through the area.Please make your way out of the National Park.This is a red flag warning.
30:47The helicopter faded ahead.Attention, attention.This is a red flag warning.Fires are moving through the area.Please make your way out of the National Park.This is a red flag warning.We waited until we couldn't see it anymore before standing.Attention, attention. This is a red flag warning.
31:10Fires are moving through the area.Please make your way out from the National Park.This is a red flag morning.What the hell was that?What do you mean?There's a fire.They do that?I've never seen it firsthand, but if they think conditions are bad,
31:31bad or extreme, and a fire can spread quickly.I imagine they'd do anything they could to warn people.Yeah, I never heard that before.They'd only do it in extreme cases,lets any hikers and campers know to get out.You think it's real?I don't know.I didn't recognize that helicopter.
31:49It wasn't a ranger helicopter?No, that wasn't Nash flying,and it definitely wasn't Haley.What about police?Maybe, maybe fire department too?I didn't get a good lookMe eitherShe checked her phone
32:05WhatNo signalThought I would get an alertCan you get an alert without receptionI thought so but I could be wrongAmber pocketed her phoneThat's weird thoughWhat?
32:19We just had a fire two nights agoThought the storm took care of itSo it could be a lieWell it could be the result of a lightning strikebut who knowsI was starting to have doubtsabout heading to the highwaywhere else could we go
32:36Amberare there any other roads other than the highwaythat leads out of herenonot unless you want to walk for two weekseast or westwhat about northwhen you reach Yellowstone
32:49there are other roadsbut that's a hell of a trek toookayyou're still good for the highwaylooks like we don't have much other choiceokaySo which way?Amber?
33:03She was looking off into the woods.What is it?We're close to the path for Brighton Rock.What's that?A place Jean and I picked and named,where we would have our little private phone calls.It's part of a sightseeing spot that's not used anymore.Only plays high enough around here to get a signal.
33:20Do you really need to see the fire alert?No, I guess not.But maybe we should go there and try,calling the cops?Instead of the highway?We could call someone.I don't know.I really just want to get to the highway and leave these fucking woods.
33:38Okay.We can call the cops when we get to the highway, right?The real cops?Yeah, in certain spots.Reception's not great.When I made my calls to Jean, he would often park off the highway, but closer to the station.Okay, well, no need to go to the rock.Okay.
33:55She nodded but seemed to put out.Everything okay?Yeah, I would just like to give Gene a peace of my mind.You can't call him, Amber.Not until we talk to the police.And honestly, I don't think we should talk to anyone until we get to a police station.Just in case.No, I know. You're right.
34:13Okay.Let's keep moving.We walked another good 30 minutes in silence.The sun was now up and it was starting to get hot.The silence was eating at me. Amber seemed like she was in her head again and so was I.Hey AmberYeahI couldn't wonder anymore
35:01You all rightYeah I'm fineJust nervousAbout the highwayAnd about the warningWell if it was a real warningIt's probably best we keep heading to the highwayRather than Brighton Rock, right?
35:14Yeah butWhat if it wasn't realTo what extent will they go to find usUsI guess it was usIt wasn't just me aloneAgainst everyoneAmber was here
35:28She had a gun pointed at her head not long agoWe were both in dangerNow we were back to silenceAnd it was me who was daydreamingAnd thinking about past eventsYou killed someone, MikeYou actually shot and killed a human beingBut you had to
35:46For herAmber shifted her backpack as she stretchedI wanted to talk moreWhen we talked time flewat the tower and out here, but it seemed likeshe wasn't up from we're talking.Still, I wanted to try.So, why Brighton Rock?
36:05Huh?Why Brighton Rock?Because I could get reception.And since we were never positive, if they could listen in on the radio, I...No, I mean, why'd you guys call it Brighton Rock?You said you named the spot, right?We called it Brighton Rock, because that's Gene's favorite song.Ah.
36:23It used to have a real name, but the past...After each, it eventually became overgrown, and I guess they took it off the maps years ago.But there's a big rock there, and, well, right in rock fit?Stupid, I know.She forced to smile, but when I didn't return it, she stopped.I'm sorry, Mike.I know I haven't said much since the chopper, but, well, things keep eating away at me.I've never been this scared of my life.
36:52Me either.And there was another reason I would.itching to go to Brighton Rock.To talk to Jean?No.Although, I do want to talk to him at some point.She pulled out the crumpled piece of paper from her pocket again.This time she showed me.
37:09It read, don't trust him.And below that, it was a phone number.Who?I don't know.And I assume it's in reference to Jean, but I'm not positive.Whose phone number?I don't know that either.One of the men who was in my tower left this.
37:26And you trust it?They'd probably just want to know where you are.That can't be.They hid this note,which means they didn't want Gene to see it,and possibly they didn't want any others to see it.What others?The other fake policemen?
37:40I think they're all company men.This is ridiculous.You can't trust that?You're not the least but curious?No, and I have no idea why you are.Because.Because...The person who left it, who hid it, was an employee I met before.
37:59An employee of Iris?I believe so.That's how I knew they weren't police.Was it Kyle? I mean, Aaron?His name was Emile.And you met with him?Not exactly.He showed up at my tower.
38:15During your first season here?No.This year.This year? And you're just now mentioning it?There wasn't much to mention.He showed up one stormy night, dirty and bruised.It was early on when you were at Enos Lake.Enos Lake, searching for the father and son?
38:31Yeah.That was ages ago.I know.I was told by Gene at that point not to venture out.He said he got word that there were some issues, and I was told to stay put in my tower.But you told me to investigate Enos Lake.I was worried about you.I was.
38:49Jean said it was important that you continued to look for the father and son.and he said it was equally important that I stay in my tower.But this random guy?Emil.If, that's his real name.Okay, Emil, he just shows up?Yeah, scared the shit out of me, too.What did he say?
39:06Not much.Anything in relation to what I told you about Aaron?No, but I wasn't sitting there questioning him either.I knew I wouldn't be told much, and he seemed like he was having a rough night.Why?He fell, hurt himself.He the one with a scar on his head?Yeah. You saw him?
39:24On the trail. He was with the others.Makes sense.You never talked to anyone from Iris before that? Before this year?Never. All my information came through Gene.I had no reason to believe he was lying at any point.I wanted to know more about this interaction she had with Emil, but I also wanted to steer the conversation back to her past year as working as a fire lookout.I wanted to tell you about that guy, especially after you mentioned seeing someone by Enos Lake.But you didn't.
39:53I couldn't.Emile said he wasn't supposed to interact with anyone.It's why I saved that conversation for Brighton Rock.I wanted to tell Jean what happened, but I didn't want them to be able to listen.If they could.Right.If they could.Mike, I wasn't hiding this from you.
40:13I was just waiting until I got to that night.You have me recapping past years, and I'm trying to tell you everything I remember.It's fine.you're not upset with meno but we need to keep walkingyeah yeah you're rightokayTwo hours later, and we were out of the fields and under the canopy of tall pines.
41:10Amber guessed we still had a good 20 miles left until the highway.But time was passing quickly because we were talking about our second year here and now.I expected my second year to be more of the same.But it wasn't.She told me it took about two months before Jerry was having some crazy experiences,most of which he shared at first.It was just the fact that this was happening sooner than before.And Jerry did confide in me.
41:35But just a little.Apparently Jerry talked more than Sam, but still not that much.Amber often had trouble reaching him.When Jerry got to the point he didn't feel listened to,he stopped talking altogether.The only time he was on the radio was to report random fires.But you said you took over for him in Tower 4.Yeah.
41:54See, Jerry started calling about people in the woods,telling me he was being watched, being followed.And that didn't tip you off?What do you mean?Sam said the same shit.Yes, and that's why I felt maybe there was something similarabout all the occupants in Tower 4.Maybe people who came through had small bouts of schizophrenia,
42:13or maybe everyone was on some new unregulated drug, or...I get your point.The only people I ever saw on.Tower 3 were hikers passing through.Okay.But there was something else he did mention.What?Music.
42:29Over the radio?Yeah.I gave her a wide-eyed look.And are you kidding me, look?Was it classical?He didn't say.He kind of mentioned it in one of his ramblings.But he didn't start hearing and seeing things until after the first two months.
42:43At least, that's when he started reporting it to me.He also made a few trips to talk to Gene.At Overarch?Yeah.Gene told me he started to call.complaining about the job. He wanted to be done with it. He was freaking out.You told me before that he just up and walked out of the job, packed his stuff, and left.Is that really how it happened? Pretty much.
43:02How do you know?What do you mean?Did Gene say that or did you see that?How would I see that, Mike?Exactly.That wasn't Jerry. That guy you were helping.I know. Aaron confirmed that, but you told me that you didn't talk to him until the first day out here.That's right.
43:21left before you took over Tower 4? Sure. So how'd you know what he looked like? Well, the first timeI saw him was in a photo. I saw a copy of his driver's license in Gene's office a week before the seasonstarted. I told you every so often I would look at Gene's desk. That's it? No, I saw him the day beforeI left to go to the Tower, too. He was by his truck. Gene introduced us. He was short with me,and that carried over to our radio conversations. Oh. What? You gave the impression that the first timeyou ever talked to him was over the radio.I mean, it's the first timeI talked to him about anything significant.
43:57It really was just a,Hi, how do you do?I'm going to be your contact for the summer,blah, blah, blah, chat outside the station.He wasn't heading out at the time, but I was.Oh.Sorry about the confusion.It's okay, but how confident are you
44:13that he left before the end of the season?I'm confident I took over Tower 4 for the final month.Okay.And Jean took over three, right?That's right.And while you were there, you didn't see or hear anything.Cicadas and birds.That's all.
44:31I'm sorry, Mike, but I wasn't lying about that before.It's just frustrating.I understand.Do you?Because Aaron said we were chosen.We?The Tower Four lookouts.Oh, right.
44:45But I don't get how.Didn't you apply for this job?Yeah, I applied to a bunch of jobsHundreds, all over the countryI was ready for something differentDo you remember specificallyApplying to this job?Yeah, I was applying at any place that was hiring
45:02I was feeling vulnerableIt was just after talking to my therapistAbout looking for something newHmmWhat?I'm just thinkingWhat if there was a way they knewYou were looking for a job
45:15How?I don't know, MikeHow is any of this possible?I thought about it for a good minute.Did they do that?I got a sudden chill and had to stop.You all right?Yeah, I, uh, I'm just exhausted.
45:30Oh, me too.Want to rest for a bit?No, no, let's keep walking.It's only going to get hotter.True.But neither of us moved.I bit my lip a moment contemplating this new realization.Was I really chosen?
45:45I couldn't remember exactly how I applied to this job.Was it on a job listing?site or through email? I applied to so many places. Mike? Yeah? You ready to keep going? I kept thinkingthat if I were chosen, then I would have to have had something in common with Sam and Jerry. Amber,what did Sam... I don't know. I was caught off guard by her quick response. I don't know if Sam applied tothe position the same way you did, or Jerry. That would be a question for Gene. Right. You really plan oncalling Jean when we get to safety? After we talk to real...Cops? Yeah, I think I should.
46:22You don't owe him anything. You don't owe him an explanation.No, but he owes me one.Now is a big of the air.Please make your way out for the national park.This is a random man.Another helicopter, or maybe the same one,had made another pass airing the same morning,but we hadn't seen any signs of smoke.
47:13We've been walking for over two hours,and other than the helicopter, it had been uneventful.Do you get the feeling we're still,being watched.I turned to Amber who had already made her way over a hill.No.I don't think so.You?
47:28No.I told you they ran when the helicopter showed like they were scared of the thing.Part of me thinks the fire is a ruse and they're just continuing to hunt for us and them.We walked up another steep incline.Please tell me we're close to this creek.Um, just another 10 miles or so.Awesome.We made it to the top, and I took a moment to rest and stretch.
48:08I don't see any smoke.See, that way is Tower 3.Tower 4 would be...She looked at her compass.Over there.Tower two and the ranger's station that way.There's no fire.Now, maybe if it's small enough over by one, they could start sending out warnings.
48:31They'd do that if there were high winds projected in no rain in sight.I don't see any clouds, but it also doesn't feel windy.But it could pick up.But do you really think that's the case?No, Mike.I think they're hunting us and them.She smirked and started heading down the hill.I followed.
48:49Amber, we talked about Sam and Jerry extensively, but what about me?You said I experienced things earlier than both of them.You did, so I figured whatever you three shared, you had the worst of it.You just didn't know what it was.Nope.But Gene told me to keep talking.And you did.You did, too.
49:12So I conversed more than either of the previous occupants?That's right.Why do you think that is?You tell me.But I didn't really know.I wasn't a shy person, but I wasn't talkative.I took this job to get away.First, I thought our chats were annoying because I wanted to just focus on my book.
49:33But then, as time passed, I found myself gone to our conversations.I ended up liking the company.Well?I didn't really want to talk at first.Oh, I know.I was a little pushy.But I did like talking.And I liked talking to you.
49:55That's why I eventually ignored the notes and focused on our conversations.I guess that says more about our rapport than what I was there for.Yeah.But I won't lie.At first night, well, ooh, it was scary.I thought you'd drop out fast.Maybe that's why I kept talking.Except how many times did you act like what I was experiencing was...
50:19Bullshit.But it's not like that now.For all, I knew you were going through the same stuff that the other guys were going through.That's why you thought I was lying.But not on purpose.I believed you really thought you were seeing and hearing things.I felt bad for you.I felt bad it was happening so...
50:38So quickly.And I guess when it started happening more and more and you were bringing up all these feelings,I felt like...I just didn't want to do it anymore.Jean pressed, but, well, I stopped taking notes.I wasn't interested in that.But you were interested in me?She looked away a moment, as if embarrassed.
51:04She bit her lip.I just wanted to talk to you.Like you were a friend.Not a case study.Oh.And every time Jean tried to convince me to talk you down,I found myself more and more conflicted.And that's why when it came down to you being so adamant about leaving,
51:23I was with you.I wanted you to go if being out here was hurting you.I mean, what's the point?This place was supposed to help people, or so I thought.And if it was doing more harm than good?She trailed off, let out a slow breath.I felt like there was more she wanted to do.say and they started to wonder. Amber? Yeah. Do you think if Jerry or Sam talked to you more,
51:53you would have felt the same way? About caring for them? And wanting to talk to them.No. Why is that? Why? For the same reason I ran after you, Mike. For the same reason I risked mylife to be here, to help you. Her eyes were glassy, her jaw tightened.Holy shitOf courseHow did I not realize this?She liked meBut why?
52:27How?I was just a voice over the radioShe didn't even really know me untilNoShe didShe didn't see me until yesterdayBut she knew meShe knew my likes and dislikes
52:41She knew where I grew upShe knew about my past relationshipsAbout my writing techniqueabout my family, she knew me.I feel like this is all my fault.I want to make things right.I awkwardly nodded.I had no idea what to say.
53:02I liked talking to her too, but did I know her?Not as well as she knew me.And I didn't really have much time to think about our relationship with everything going on.It's not all your fault.You were doing a job, like me.Although mine was most likely fake.No, you were still a fire lookout.You just didn't realize you were also a...
53:29Case study? She shrugged.We stood there in awkward silence a moment.Should we...Should we...Should we keep going?Yeah.Let's...I don't know.
53:48I don't know.I don't know.Hours passed and we were still at it.We took hardly any breaks because we were focused on getting out.The helicopter never showed up again, but we did, for the first time, see smoke.So they weren't lying.I don't think that proves anything.She stifled a chuckle.
54:47What?I was thinking the same thing.At what lengths do you think they'd go?I don't think there's a limit.The smoke was behind us, which meant it was west of where Tower 4 would be.So, I don't worry right now.We continued to talk about past events and debate about what was happening hereas we trekked over hill after hill of grass and stone.
55:15I'm just saying maybe they did something to Jerry.You think they killed him?then had me take over.I don't know. Did Gene seem odd around that time?Around that time, we weren't talking that much.There was some trouble at home in the off-season, and we were fighting a lot more.Really?Yeah.
55:34It started with his gambling and communication skills, but then devolved into stupid little fightsabout how to organize canned food and whether or not we should get a dog.Which side did you fall on?I wanted a dog. He didn't.Oh.And that's why Gene and I had...so many issues. He wasn't who he said he was. He wasn't the same person I met a long time agoat a dog park. Don't you think that comes with time? What do you mean? Well, no one's exactly
56:01how they are at the beginning of a relationship. Like psycho? Well, Linda was an extremeversion of that. I meant in a more general sense. I get some things change. I found that sametrap with Jean. And I was so annoyed with myself because what the hell was I thinking? Hey,What?How did we get on relationships?I don't know.Even now, it was easy for us to talk.I started wondering if things were different, if we weren't fighting for our lives,
56:35would I have developed feelings for her to?That's what she was hinting at, right?Mike?What?Did you hear what I asked?No, sorry.What?How are we going to get to a town once we hit the highway?
56:50I know we plan to walk next to the highway, but if that really is a high-level fire,then we have to move fast.The woods are sparse, the more south we go, so it won't be super easy to get through undetected.You have an idea?No.Because we're not calling Jean, and I highly doubt we'll have any time to Uber.If you look back, I followed her gaze, the smoke was still miles and miles away.I know that.
57:16But if they're trying to flush us out, it might work.It just scares me because if we flag down a car, how do we know we can trust the driver?But I didn't have an answer for that.I don't know how many hours passed as we went back and forth between chatting about Tower 4 and utter silence listening to nothing but our heavy breathing.But eventually we heard a wonderful noise.Holy shit. You hear that?No way.We made it.
58:16We rushed over a hill, suddenly finding a burst of energy.There it was.Thank God.The creek wasn't too big, maybe six feet wide and a foot or too deep.Both bent down and started drinking.It tasted so good.Oh.Too bad I don't have my thermists.
58:47I could take some with us.Well, we're not too far.the highway now, right?Not at all.But is it okay if we rest a moment?I am okay with that.I got off my knees and I actually sat cross-legged in front of the water.I let my hands sink into it.
59:06And I scoop sound and splashed my face.This had to be one of the hottest days so far.It was nice to just take a moment and sit under the shade and cool off.You know, I've only been over this way.Twice. One time I saw a bear, so definitely be on the lookout.Awesome. It never ends, does it?She smiled, then cup some water and took another drink.She then scooped some and rubbed it on the back of her neck.
59:38Ah, it really is nice over here.She was right. The canopy above only allowed a thin stream of sunlight to reach us in the creek.I really wanted to nap, but I knew it was at.out of question. Still, took a moment to close my eyes.Who knows when we'd have another chance like this? So, just a quick respect.A few birds above us singing happily. I wondered what they were,but wasn't ready to open my eyes just yet. I could hear Amber beside me,drinking and splashing water on herself. I needed to be careful. But,
01:00:20get my eyes closed for too long, I'd fall asleep, but birds chirping and the soft rolling of waterwas so peaceful, soothing. Even Amber's movements. Wait, I didn't hear her movements anymore.Mike?My eyes shot open. Amber was standing now, her hand hovering over her lower back, ready to grabher gun. What? She motioned with a slow head nod up the creek where a figure stoodatop a grouping of rocks looking down at us.Who the hell was that?Tower 4, written and edited by Robert M. Lamb.
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