Trading Secrets - 168. More Than Money: Cheers to Three Years of Trading Secrets!

Episode Date: May 23, 2024

Episode Description: This week, Jason is joined by the Curious Canadian David Arduin to reflect on three years of Trading Secrets! Jason and David dive into some of the statistics of podcasting and how Trading Secrets compares, the biggest shit show moments, favorite guests they have had on, most inspirational guests, behind-the-scenes of recording, how the show has changed directionally, how the podcast has impacted their lives, getting more into the personal lives, who their updated top three dream guests are, and a great opportunity! It’s an episode you can’t afford to miss!  Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! The Farmer's Dog: This spring, brighten up your dog’s bowl with fresh, healthy food. Get 50% off your first box, delivered to your door here Yahoo Finance: Whether you're a seasoned investor or are looking for that extra guidance, Yahoo Finance gives you all the tools and data you need in one place. For comprehensive financial news and analysis, visit the brand behind every great investor, YahooFinance.com The Washington Post: From climate and culture to crosswords and cooking, The Washington Post helps you discover a world of surprising stories, important insights, and actionable advice. To access The Washington Post for just under 50 cents per week, head to WashingtonPost.com/SECRETS Trading Secrets is sponsored by The Washington Post

It is more than money, baby, 1,156 days trading secrets has been live. And on this episode of More Than Money, we got the one and only, the curious Canadian and myself here to banter. a little bit to talk about the fact that this is our three, three, three year anniversary. It's really hard to even comprehend. You know, I think about it, David. You had mentioned it to me before this podcast. I've really recorded this episode in four different homes.

Our lives have changed so drastically in three years. We recorded 167 episodes every day on Trading Secrets, Instagram that the market's open. We have had five to ten stories go out about things people got to know. Every Monday morning, they wake up to a Trading Secrets newsletter. They have a YouTube channel. We have an all-access networking group. We've done plenty of live events. Come a long way.

So, David, we're not talking numbers, not talking dollars. We're not talking about our network transitions. We're talking life today, man. Three years, I just, I'll just kick it to you. When you think three years, years of this fucking podcast. What do you think? What do you thinking? Well, I'm thinking

how. I'm just thinking how. You know, you say all those things and it, all I get is flashbacks. I get quick memories of you in the New Mexico house when we started the podcast. I get, you know, all the different backgrounds that you and different

backgrounds you and I have had throughout the years. The incredible guests, the incredible lessons learned. It does feel surreal. It's also kind of a reminder of how fast time goes by, starting this in 2021 just after COVID. But it's just surreal, man. And, you know, you said on our last More Than Money episode, you know, and I was talking about coffee in my hand, you see me right now. I'm kicked back.

My feet are up. I got a drink in my hand. I am just so grateful and happy to be on the ones and twos with you. And like you said, we're just going to banter. We're going to reflect. We might need a word if it gets to in the weeds with money. this is more than money baby let's talk it out all right let's talk it out let's also talk numbers we got to give ourselves a little pat on the back for all the podcasts that are out there

90% of podcasts don't get past episode three 1.8 million that number's huge 1.8 million podcasts quit before they even get started of the 200,000 left 90% quit after 20 episodes after releasing over 500 episodes this person then goes on to talk about things you could do but 90% of them don't even get past episode three and here we are 169 in and you know what's crazy about that i just listened to the howie mandal episode that you recorded i think's coming out in two weeks and he has a quote that's so relevant to that um and i'm just proud of us for not quitting i'm proud of us for sometimes when we we felt maybe the direction of the pot

or the guests that were coming. I'm glad that we didn't quit and we just kept picking up the mic and recording. You've had a lot happened in your personal and your work life and you never stopped. I've had a lot happen to my personal life adding a kid and traveling

for work with hockey all the time. We always found away, man. I would love to know how many states we've recorded from. I would love, I would love to know all of those things because it's, you know, like you said, it doesn't really make sense

and the fact that you and I are able to do this together is really special. And we have such loyal fans and loyal listeners who definitely make us feel appreciated and valued. And it's an incredible community. The Mono Mafia, they're the best, man.

They're the absolute best. They're the best. I think, yeah, you're right, man. Think about the three years, all the different places we've recorded from the scrap jobs we've had. And another piece of just like gratefulness I want to share is like we haven't, you know, so many podcasters I know out there, they take, they do seasons like they'll do enough. They'll get sponsored and do 10 episodes and put all their thought and energy into it. We have been going full fucking speed.

We have not missed one week. And one of the things we said out there was when we started, we're like, okay, we're going to bank all these episodes because we're never, ever going to miss a week. And we know that consistency is key. When people wake up Monday, they have to know the Trading Secrets episode will be there. And for three years straight, you know, we've continued to do that. But holy hell, there has been mess ups. There's been episodes that, like, we recorded the whole thing and had to throw them out or the recording didn't work.

There's been all kinds of just complete mayhem from this podcast. Let's, uh, let's, let's start with this, David. When you think back, let's go, let's go to this. biggest shit show of a podcast and, uh, the guests that you were most inspired by. Give me that biggest shit show of a podcast we had. And the, uh, and by the way, everyone back home, I don't have notes. We said we're not doing questions. We're just like talking off the cough. Nothing is prepared here. So that's why he's laughing like that because he has no idea that was coming. So I got, I got two. I think I'm going to go quickly. I'm just going to go

shit show and then you got to give me a moment to think of the inspired one shit show has to be when we did Jason Oppenheim and he put you on the spot where I don't know if it was a mix up with

his assistant and said how much time but you do every time before he hear record you like all right 30 45 minutes like we'll get into it if he and he goes that's not going to work I got 10 minutes max you the look in your face was so priceless

and I think you clipped it into the episode that we did that's number one and then you know what I'm going to save my other shit show one because I want to ask you at a different time what your overall favorite episode is

and why and I'm going to save mine for that so what's your biggest shit show the biggest shit show I just think about it wasn't even that big of a shit show I just it was like tough it was tough to like know where his brain was going

and like when he was like talking was he mumbling was he not talking? was even talking English, like I wasn't sure, but I really like respect and admire him, especially for what he's accomplished in his tenure. But carrot top, I'm just like, where did you film that by the fuck? A buddy's house that I met over the years and we just recorded it like his closet in Vegas. Like our buddy has, uh, he owns this company where they will pay guests to like go on podcast, kind of like cameo. and him and I met through that

and then we recorded and like his pot he had like you know carrot tops walking in like he's got his like you know beautiful family with his wife and his two little girls and like in comes caretop and I and it was just a fucking mess

that is unbelievable and just like what if I told you that year one episode one we were going to have caratop you'd be like in what world does this fit or how am I ever going to come in contact with Carrotop? Yeah. Well, I got another one too.

I got, before I go to your favorite, this would be mine. Favorite guest to podcasts with my number one favorite person to go and banter with, of course, other than you, 100% corporate Natalie. I could just sit there and fucking banter and talk shit and just go back and forth, zing for zing. I could do it for hours with her. Corporate Natalie's incredible. yeah you've you've uh you've said that before too um my favorite uh in person guest a podcast with

obviously other than yourself would be i've only been on like four of them live uh so i'm just going to say cat stickler because that was just in a whole that want to talk about funny that was maybe the biggest shit show episode we were recorded with um the slow start and the you know how funny that was at the start we kept looking at each other i'm going to say for real quick with that too i think Which is good. What I like about that episode, that was so amazing to me is like, I said it on that podcast, that recap. I've never seen, literally, never, not one human who walks into the door of the podcast and you're talking with them before and then walks on the microphone, identical. Like with Kat, there was no show, no fucking tone, no little fake, little big laugh, whatever. I mean, the same exact person to a T. And it was. it was hilarious. And for people that don't know with that episode, we had met probably, I think it was like two weeks ago before that. So a lot of people were like, did you guys meet on the podcast? No, her and I met when the vice president of our agency got married in

Tampa Bay. So I was thinking, like, who could be a good guest to come on in Tampa Bay? Maybe Rob, maybe Camille. I was like, oh, Kat and Kat agreed to it. And then last minute backed out. And then the reason she backed out she had to travel and then she didn't have to travel so i was like all right well we can't get a studio but might as well get lunch so i bet her two weeks ago so yeah that was uh two weeks prior on that that was good one but baby go to your best one so my most inspirational um and i and i don't want to steal your thunder because i feel like you're going to say this one my most inspirational was probably rob dear deck um just because he showcased just a sheer different approach to life um it's not one

that I think that I could ever replicate, which I think is fine. But it definitely was the most eye-opening, holy shit that actually happens. And he's uber successful, so he's doing something right. That to me was like probably one of the most eye-opening inspirational ones

that I've had. My favorite... You say you're inspirational. And then I'll say favorite because... I have a ton, but I mean, the Chris Voss episode, if you haven't listened to it, like that was like a life-changing episode.

The guy I just like was, was most impressed by his presence. Who's ever been on this show was Mauricio. His presence is just so is A-Rods, like so big. Hannah Burner, Harry Jousy, Lindsay, Arnold, Lala, Kent, Josh Peck, Grank, Molly Bloom. Those are some of my top ones too. Molly Bloom was close to my favorite episode.

My favorite episode, Jay, and again, truly I can't say this because it's cheesy and I don't want to get too cheesy. My favorite episodes are the ones that I get to do with you. Because those are the most surreal ones for me. My favorite episode we ever recorded was Mr. Wonderful and Kevin O'Leary. Why? And I'm going to, because I have to paint a picture for the people. Okay.

When we started this podcast, our original network told us that we had to bank six to eight episodes before we could release one. As Jay mentioned, the reason podcast fails, they don't get past three episodes. So they make sure you bank some. So even if you suck, you have six episodes. episodes to see if it goes, okay? The first episode we ever recorded, I was on all the episodes, so I didn't do the recap. So

I was zooming from wherever I was. Sometimes I was in a hockey rink. Sometimes it's in my basement. Jay's in this house in New Mexico because Zach was filming the Bachelorette at the time. So the first person we ever did was Elena Davies from Big Brother. We were peeing our pants laughing and I was like,

this is going to be so fun. Then we had Corinne from Survivor and I was like, okay, that was energy was a little different. like we both were kind of like new on the mics maybe like foot in the mouth a little bit and then we had Mr. Wonderful so this is the first real big guess that we've had on and we were trying to get the hang of it I just remember him coming on to the podcast and we did all these podcasts by Zoom he had the shark tank background he had three different camera angles we almost got put in a waiting room with his assistant who like prepped us for

the interview before we went in he was in a suit and tie product placement i was like i feel so underdress for this and we crushed that episode it was so good it was my favorite because it was just so much like oh my god we're doing this moment that was a wild moment like how the fuck did we get kevin o'leary to agree to this this guy's in like a multi-million dollar studio and you and i are on like broken chairs and i'm like i don't even i'm using like lighting from the window corner in new mexico albuquerque that were set up from the bachelor it was hilarious i think about some behind-the-scenes stuff so some stuff that like i don't know if i've ever shared when we had a rod on the podcast it was the day that the hall of fame um ballot came out and so we're just

about to record and as we're recording he's like all right i got you got to get up i got to talk to and he brings me in a conference room he's got a big presence he's a big dude too and he's like all right listen We can't talk about the Hall of Fame because no matter what I say, good, bad, or ugly, people use it against me. There's nothing that can't win, no matter what side I take. I was like, absolutely. And then we started walking out.

And he said, oh, yeah, and no J-Lo talk. I was like, shit, that could have been good clickbait, but I'll let that go. Would you say who is the most nervous you were ever for a guess? Was it a road? The most nervous. nerves were high for Arod Yeah

Because the whole I'm always going to be more nervous in person Because there's so much more to it Yeah And sometimes when you're in there Like that was at his office In his setup Like you can't get comfortable

Like when you're in your setting Or a studio you've recorded before You probably just You know where to put your iPad For you know For your notes and stuff like that must have been pressure cooker central it was i was a little i get i get a little nervous before everyone but it's i don't know if it's nervous or it's just like the the jitters which is like

good because that means you're enjoying it you're attentive you're stimulated it's like even howie mande because i always want to do a good job too i'm always like i want to impress the person i'm interviewing so i always get a little bit nervous but even like the todd graves one i was pretty nervous for because I'm going I'm going up guys worth over a nine billion bucks I just spent the weekend with him like he's this guy's a big fucking deal yeah I was in his room and the the ones I always get a little bit more nervous for is where I don't have a microphone like this I'm clipped on because when I have a microphone like this it's a big object and it also it's like clearly like we're doing like I got to talk in the mic we're doing like a show here and when I have the clip on

it's almost like TV where people on TV they're not expecting to have notes. They're not supposed to look down. I have an iPad. So there's like more memorization that's required if that makes sense. Yeah. It's so funny to listening to the episodes before we recap them. You can totally tell now that you've been doing it for so long, like when you're in your groove and like you have your notes and like you know you got to ask these questions, but you don't, you want to ask them with proper flow. You come out of the gate with the intro and then within like the first three minutes, I feel like I can always tell when this is going to be like a bread in butter where like you just get into it and it flows and sometimes the guests maybe doesn't

respond to the intro the same way or maybe it's a little more reserved or maybe it doesn't give you what you you can't transition to the first or the second question it's just so funny to see how like over time like you adapt to those different situations because you've we've had so many different types of guests on so it's another thing that's interesting i've noticed is i talk about my nerves i notice a lot of people get nervous on my show you can really like you when they get chest hives or when we finish the show they'll be like oh my god i really like that but that was like intense like we talked about a lot of crazy things or deep things or money things and there's a sense of discomfort and when i go to take a picture with my guest it's almost always david always

their backs are like so sweaty oh my god that's always it's like almost every time they like take a picture like sorry it was like that was a lot you know because i think people in general just don't feel is comfortable still, of course, talking about this stuff. But yeah, I mean, I look at our list. It's so like, you know, Dr. Pimple Popper was great. Craig Conover was great. Brian, chicken fry before she started dating Zach, Brian, Steve Wilcos, you know, just so many great, great guests. But man, three years ago was a long time ago. It's wild how life looks different today. You, you weren't, you didn't have a child three years ago. Didn't have a child three years ago. I didn't even have our wedding three years ago. You were married, right?

I was married, but we hadn't had the wedding yet. COVID canceled our original wedding. So we had our wedding two months after our first season. Yeah, man, I definitely, there's been so many times, Jay, where I was basically had a text written to you to say like, hey, we got to talk. I don't know if I can do this anymore. And I never sent it, which is good. I don't know.

Tell me, man. No, you've never told me. Tell me more. Just too much time? what for like the dollars and cents not even the dollars and cents man like you are a very particular person especially when it comes to your your businesses i've always looked at this as i can help in any way that i can and i always wanted to make sure that i'm holding on my end of the bargain and you know you've been super flexible i've been flexible we've been flexible

with each other's schedule we've always made this a priority um but when you throw a kid in the mix and you're on a few hours of sleep and it's in the middle of the hockey season and you got to travel and you're away for four days like finding it may not seem like a lot but finding an hour and a half to listen to the episode and get ready to record and recap and just bring the quality that I want to bring to you for letting me do this and for the people like I want there's been so many times where I felt like I didn't think I'd be able to do it um but it just you know like I said before the fact that we haven't quit the fact that you've allowed me to do this with you the fact that I think you keep getting better what you do I'd like to think I keep getting better at what I do. It's been so, so cool. So yeah, life has changed a ton, but, you know, as we get better with podcasts, I get better with being a dad and being more comfortable in that situation. So it's changed a ton, but, you know, for you, has the podcast itself, has it pivoted or

changed from what your original intent was? Or has it pretty much been, you know, if we recorded day one, hey, day one episode, what does our three year anniversary look like what does a podcast look like is it similar to that or has a pivoted or changed oh man if we go down the rabbit hole of the podcast it's interesting so especially if i look at a timetable so three years ago we launched it and it was just a couple weeks after i had gotten engaged and i think about the starting point of it and i think part of our idea was like i'm from the bachelor franchise but let's just start talking money, finance, and business.

Now, wild fact is when I was recently lost my job and was looking for like what was next, you know, I was doing well, right? So I talk about what I was making and stuff, but there was still a period of like, what the hell do I do, right? I built out restart. So that was in like 2020, which was really focused on career and finance. It was like just my Instagram page. now do videos and tutorials.

Well, I got offered to do the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast, which still exists today, right? And it's run by the network. And right now, Joe and Serena are the hosts. But at the time, I auditioned with Hannah Ann, Tasha, and myself. And they really wanted me to do it. I negotiated hard. I got up to 100K. All I had to do was show up.

to show up podcast once a week. I declined that opportunity. I declined it. I won't get into why I declined it, but I declined it. And then when this opportunity presented itself, I was like, I have to take it. Like this is a dream. Like I'm speaking about finance and career stuff in a space that I was just in. And this is a dream. And so what have we done with the podcast? We've impacted lives. We've made people laugh. We've shared an numbers. We've helped educate. David, I cannot tell you the amount of messages over the three years I've gotten about people that have negotiated their raises, changed their careers, completely gone in different directions. We have shaped people's entire professional and financial

direction, impacting also the personal direction from this podcast. To me, that is the most impactful thing. And then I'll just end with your, it's a long answer to a short question, but when I say directionally how have we changed i think your product has to change to where the people want to listen okay yeah if i go to the episode i got that numbers i'm not going to talk money but if i go to the episode david in the podcast it's almost always always always bachelor i'm going to look at our top downloaded episodes a lot of bachelor dancing with the stars vanderpump a couple founders FBI agent bachelor bachelor bachelor bachelor a couple other social media people but the majority of it is people from the bachelor franchise so you got to start you got

to do what the people want and I think what the people want is pop culture meeting money and meeting finance where they can be entertained but also learn so that's how I think the podcast has changed I've oh my gosh David I've obviously gone through a lot too Personally, there's been a whole lot of journeys thinking about filming this. And, you know, when Caitlin was filming for Katie Thurston season of The Bachelorette, like, I was in that house for two, three months doing this and to think where today is. It's just crazy to think how life can change so much in three years. So personally, my life's changed and certainly the direction of the podcast has changed.

What do you think's changed the most? Yeah, I honestly am not sure how much it has. changed. If you look at our first three episodes, we had Dean Ungler from the from the Bachelor. We had Joe Gallier, who was my intro to be like, oh my God, I'm going to learn so much shit about

industries that I have no clue about because he was the CEO of Viral Nation, which is basically a influencer marketing firm. And then we had Mr. Wonderful on. So in my head, like, so there you go. We had a finance kind of reality TV business man. We had a bachelor person. And then we had, you know,

an industry I had nothing, I knew nothing about. and that stayed consistent. And I think that's what we've kind of niched out. We're now seeing articles on us or people on TikTok talking about the podcast calling it like pop culture meets finance. I think we've been able to do that. And at the end of the day, we have had 4.9 star rating, which is a testament to you. It's a testament to me.

It's a testament to our editors. It's a testament to our fans who tune in to listen. Over 5,000 ratings. Those two numbers usually don't go hand in hand. and people always comment about how they love their variety of guests. So I don't know if it's pivoted and changed. If anything, it has, we added the Thursday episodes. We're still tinkering with those.

I've loved listening to all of them. I think it's, you know, it's kind of like a breath of fresh air almost in some sense about just hearing different things and perspectives on more everyday life topics. So I think, I think we've kind of found our sweet spot. And I say that without, you know, we still want to. grow and we so want to get better. But I feel three years in, I feel like we're in a really good place. We're in cruise control, but we keep clicking that little dial up one mile an hour at a time. And I think it's a really good place to be. Well, the numbers are going up. The reviews are

going up. The YouTube listeners are going up. The downloads are going up and are following on Instagram's going up. So it's all moving in the right direction. I think what we look at like Bachelor data, something else I think we should be proud of to, right? There are so many directions. we could have gone with this, you know, and there's so, it would have, I'm just going to call a spade a spade. It would have been so easy for me to grab a fucking Bachelor guy or girl and do this podcast and like, or someone in, right? I think it's cool that you and I did it. I was never a lead. I got to go on one show. And when I look at Bachelor data, these are the biggest podcast by former contestants of Bachelor Nation and their launch dates. Okay. So Nick Vial, right, January 2019.

he is by a long shot the best podcast of Bachelor alum but again started you know two and a half years before us was a lead three years before then off the vine you know started in May 2017 um again same type of deal bachelor happy hour supported by the ABC franchise always leads or big contestants they always get the best guests because they have that connection in you have almost famous with Ben and Ashley started in two 2017, like two major players in the bachelor's space, higher learning, which is an incredible show with Rachel Lindsay. But with Rachel Lindsay, her guest is Van Lathen, who is a huge personality and absolutely kills it in this space. And then you got Lady Gang, you know, they've been around since 2015. You got scrubbing in with Rio Tanya and Beckettili.

That's Ryan Seacris, everyday co-host in Becatilly. And then you got Trading Seekyllis. with Jason Tarney and David Arnaud, you know, the guy from Rochester and Buffalo. And so what I feel like compare, I don't like ever comparing things to peers, but when you look at the Bachelor franchise, it's a good indicator. And those shows that we named above do not compete with us. We don't compete with them. And they do great. And all of them are amazing, amazing hosts. Every single one of those shows. But like, do you know how many people from the Bachelor franchise that were leads or like contestants or, you know, have.

You know, there's some, there's some shows I'm looking at right now that have three or four hosts that are from the franchise. You have three or four people with power. You know, I mean, you have, I'm looking at one show that has a massive, massive lead. Maybe the biggest lead ever is running that show and it's not doing the numbers we're doing. And I just think about the fact that we should be proud of that, man. We stayed in our lane. We stayed to the objective. And it's me and a schmuck I met in college.

and here we are three years later still fucking ripping and roar it i love it i mean look talk like you know you this was all your idea i was so excited when you when you told us that you were getting the podcast i was over excited sharing you ideas that i thought that you should do guests that i thought you could have thank god i don't do the pre-show notes anymore because god i don't know if we would have made it more than three episodes if i still did shout out stephen who's taking that off my place late um but i get the you know i was on episodes to start we figure we need consistency the only way to get consistency with our schedule is to hop on the recap um voice of the viewer stuff man

dumb it down because i'm that's just where i'm at i'm a 101 finance guy and you know a 301 masterclass life experience guy um and i just like to to come on here and shed my insights because you know your listenership is probably in the you know middle class nine to five you know family picket fence like two income household trying to make it day by day and they just want to come on and be entertained and learn and i think we've been able to do that it's been like i said really special to be a part of um you know one question that i do have for you when i think about the podcast like you talked a little bit about pre the podcast but how has the podcast really impacted your life like like how has it really because i know how much we make on the podcast we're

not talking dollars and cents here, but I know from JTA, which we do talk about that. If you haven't listened, go listen every year, end of the year, recap Jason's finances. I know that this is not even your top three revenue sources that you make, but I guarantee it's your number one most consuming time thing that you do. So there has to be a reason. Tell me how this podcast has impacted your life and why the hell you keep doing it. Okay. So it's, you know, yeah, I think that's important.

No, right? Is it a top revenue source? No, is it profitable? Of course. We share those numbers every single year. But the biggest thing that this show has done for me is networking, accessibility into plate like, you know, I'm sitting at Arod's office interviewing him and building a relationship with him. Like the opportunity it's given me for accessibility and networking has been huge. Which you only got because we had Mark Lurion, who was his business partner and he said, Arod, you don't do podcast. You got. You got to do this fucking guy's podcast.

So speaking about networking, it all connects. Exactly. We do a multi-billionaire's podcast, Mark Lurie, he's partners with A-Rod. Mark Lurie posts the clips that we give. A-Rod sees the clips that we're doing. His team reaches out, right? So all this started from me creating an Instagram saying, I can't hammer all my bachelor audience with business stuff.

I created an Instagram called Restart. That's where it started. And from the restart, I got a book deal. that came training secrets now with the agency people that come on this Kevin O'Leary we've done so many deals with Kevin O'Leary on the talent management side of things you mentioned his name so the the opportunity the networking the accessibility and the way that it's spider webs into all my other businesses has been massive and that's not to mention just the overall branding right like having this podcast and these clips that are making millions and millions of impressions month and month out

a brand is being connected to me and because of that larger opportunities like the capital one cafe deal show up and other things that really can make significant impact on my life so it's not about like right now rate this second what it's doing it's about the larger picture do you think that this podcast has provided you consistency in your life that despite what you've gone through in your personal life since we've started has been really important foundationally yeah yeah i mean i'll dude i'll tell you man fuck me when i had to do that intro or like the day after we announced even though yeah when we announced the breakup that was that was two months that was over two months from when the initial breakup happened yeah but

that like trying to get back on and doing that was like really tough but but But, you know, if I have one regret, if I have one regret with the podcast that I haven't done that maybe I'll step into in the future, especially with a lot of life changes coming my way, like to open up more personally, you know? We talk about that a lot, though. And you always say like that, but that's not what trading secrets is about. I know. Training Secrets is about your guest who comes on, you talk money,

you give education on career management, navigation, and you give tips, and we recap the guests. And, you know, I always want to get your inputs on what, you know, areas the guests talk about. But, Jay, I want you to do that too more, too. This is what more than money is for. Yeah. This is the once a month, Jay and David, kick the feedback, no notes, dig into what's going on in your life.

And now it's more than money. It's a play. It's who you are. as a human being, it's a place where you can come and talk about that stuff because I think it's therapeutic. I think people connect with it. I think it makes you more relatable. And at the end of the day, if you're sitting here telling me after three years of doing this, your only regret is that you don't open up more. Well, guess what? We hopefully got three more years left. Let's get into that habit, baby. I'm right here with you. Yeah. I do think there's something, there's a lot there.

There's so much to open up about that I don't. So I'm with you with that. Well, we'll continue to focus on that, gives us an opportunity. It's just so hard because words have such power. The words have such power, you know, and I don't like to negatively impact anyone or anything with my words, but. And that's why you got the curious Canadian here. You got the voice the viewer. I know if I let you on lay shit and get ugly. We'll save. Well, yeah, we'll save those. We'll save those for the, uh, the text and the late night calls. But, um, um, one question I got to ask for you. It can be rapid fire.

Don't put you too much thought into it. Maybe you have realistic. I always say Justin Bieber and Justin Bieber, he's never coming on the podcast. Do you have some guests as we look forward to the next year, the next three years, or any rapid fire guests you'd love to have on? I got three.

I mean, my dream would be Denzel Washington, which I honestly don't. I don't think Denzel's like way out of the question. I don't think it's a fucking reach. But I think like, I think it's possible. he is my absolute dream guest would be denzil i didn't know that yeah oh yeah i find well i mean one of my favorite

actors i love the way he speaks i love like his messaging i've just always been a huge i think he's like a genius you know who would be i have a new new dream guest that's like a big stretch and he would never do it we'll never get him he's nowhere to be found is jim carrie yes oh my god dude you ever watch like speeches of him like that guy is unbelievable yeah i i would need we would need to book him for an hour for the pod and then i would need to book them for 24 hours just in a room with some cigars in a bottle of bourbon and just the three of us and i would i'd get deep with that guy he's seen some shit oh he has seen some shit yeah who are you three i'm going to go a little more realistic um i want miss rachel on the podcast you

water so bad be dude i've never had someone pepper me more about why You know what? I want to do. I want to, my next book's going to be a children's book for kids. Like, yes. And yes, I will help you write it. Um, dude, I'm telling you, Miss Rachel, she's on our TV six to eight hours a day, probably. I never understood it. I get it now. She, her, her production value is like so, like low for how big she is. And you know, we've talked to YouTube money on the show. She's probably, Jay, she's probably making like, I just, I can't even imagine how much. money she's making on YouTube I want to know I want to miss Rachel on because she's never done a podcast before or not that that I know of I would love to have page de Sorbo on um from summer house I would love to have right her because her energy is everything um you know she's basically like me in in female form and I resonate with that um because she's stubborn she has attitude and she's hilarious um and I would love to have Dave Portnoy on because I think

he's an absolute genius. I think he's, you know, extremely like misunderstood sometimes. His philanthropy work, his business work. He's probably one of the, you know, most unique entrepreneurs of our generation. I would love to have them on. And we've had basically every single person under the barstool

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That's thefarmer's dog.com slash secrets to get 50% off. This is fascinating, David. Rachel, Miss Rachel, I didn't know how much she was charging, but I heard she was going to get on Cameo. So she went on Cameo. She said, I joined Cameo to raise money to save the Children's Emergency Fund. And so she then did like 37 videos or has 37 reviews. And now she's temporary unavailable.

I wonder what happened. Something must have happened that she went off. Yeah, Miss Rachel's. Miss Rachel got out. She got out. But I like that. I think Dave Portnoy is very doable, honestly. I think we could get him.

We're in touch with them. Like, Evan, we text them. He just, he's like, I just, you know, he says no a lot. I got to find a way to provide value to him. We've had Brianna chicken fry. Like I said, we've had chicks in the office. that was a great episode. We had the former CEO, Eric Nardini, Biz Nasty.

We've had a ton of, you know, so I feel like, I don't know, we could get them one day. Yeah, one day. You know, you got to have people, you got to have people, you got to have people in the crosshairs, ready to come on. You can't go another three years without having guests that you never had before. Yeah, no, you're right. We'll see. We'll do it. And before we wrap, I'll give a shout.

I mean, it does take an army. Like we have, this is why podcasting is so hard. It truly does take an army. Blake is our operations manager at rewired talent management. She plays a big part in this podcast. Evan is huge in booking guests. Jesse runs our social media. John Gurney does all of our audio.

Kaylee does our summaries and titles. Keith has sourced a bunch of founder opportunities for us. Megan has sourced a bunch of opportunities for us. Mark Holzer does all of our video editing. Stephen does our podcast prep in the one in. only the Curious Canadian does all our recap. So it's a large team. There's a lot of people. There's a lot to get done. The newsletter, the Instagram, all that stuff. The biggest thing I'm thinking about, David, is I did a focus group for my book tour, and I got like 40 to 50 people

come on, and they just gave us feedback. I think we should do a focus group where we lock it down to like 50 people, and we do a whole session of just come on and give us feedback. What do you need? what do you hate what should we change should link this that all the stuff the only people that i want part of that focus group are people that are listening 306 minutes into this podcast right now because you are the real ones and you would probably give us the most honest value so here's what we're doing let's do it you go to the reviews okay you say i want to be in the focus group yes okay you get a guaranteed spot you get a guaranteed spot or capping the focus group at

50 30 50 okay 50 50 50 50 50 50 people in the review say I would love to be part of the focus group put your Instagram put a email put something how we can contact you because if you don't put anything we can't contact you we will all hop on a zoom we'll get on the ones and twos and we'll just break it down so we would love we would love to do that I love what great idea. Great idea. And we are here to stay. We're not going anywhere. You know, there will be changes. There will be hopefully, you know, better. I mean, we've had really good guess, but even better guess. Hopefully better information. We'll take the, the feedback you give us and we'll try and make the most with it. And, but we're going to be here. It just takes two mics and a couple

friends connect in every week, which is also a great, you know, Dave, I've had the chance to connect with so many people. I'm like, so, you know, who have you caught up with lately? Who have you talk to and I'm like well I get to talk to David every week we get to do our little catch up and like how cool is it that you can mix pleasure friendship and some business it's pretty fun yeah like I say all the time it's surreal truly my favorite guest that we have on is is when it's just us um it's just one of those bucket list things that you just never thought that you'd ever be able to do and every year that goes by that we do a jTA or you know anniversary of the podcast I'm glad so glad you gave a shout out to the team because

you know, it truly is a family. And the strategic calls are starting to get hilarious. And the group chat is blown up, uh, shout out Blake this morning because there's hilarious. So, uh, we had, we had a little inside scoop. We had our operations manager. We talked about a guest, um, we talked about a guest that has been on or will be on or we would like to have on. I'll keep it very vague. And she said, God, that guy's hot. And David and I just absolutely. And trust me, David and. If there's a guy that's hot or he's got swag, we'd be like, oh, that guy drips sweat. Like, good for him. Like, we'll pump through tires. We just absolutely crushed her for this call and the banter at 8 a.m. and the trading secrets group chat was unbelievable. It was great. It was great. Well, listen, thank you so much for always supporting the show. Remember to hit subscribe five stars and just say you want to be on the focus group. Just put your email address in there. A way we can contact you in the review. view and uh david anything you want to close us out with no um three years man uh if we can

make it another three years i can't wait to uh reflect on that see where you're at in your personal life see where i'm at in my personal life see how many more houses you're going to recap from uh and uh and go on this journey with you so as always you know thank you to you Thank you to our listeners. You guys are the ones who are able to make this happen for us and just happen to be a part of it. Shout out Money Mafia Trading Secrets. Shout out Money Mafia Trading Secrets when we do our six-year anniversary, David.

I pray to God, I am not sitting in a little ranch-style house in Nashville, Tennessee by myself. And something tells me that that's going to have to lead to more opening up personally on more than money. So more to come. it has been an absolute honor, privilege to be in the hot seat with you, three years running. Everyone told us we had no shot. People were like, what are you doing, picking a friend. David's family was like, do you have time for this? There has been a million reasons and a

million others that have told us, you got no shot, you got no chance. Three years later, we're in over 100 countries, 15 million plus downloads, and we are just enjoying every minute of it. and we couldn't have done it without you. So Money Mafia, Unite. Thank you for all your support. And we will see you three years from now at our six-year anniversary. See you next Monday for let me tell you.

Holy shit, we were going to go, Howie Mendel. He was set in stone to go live Monday. I had to make a change instantly because Alex Hall from selling the OC is trading the secrets on Monday. I'm coming. I'm coming.