Trading Secrets - 177. Jesse Solomon is unapologetically himself! Summer House fan favorite reveals the key to his success in reality TV, finance, working as a music agent, and future business plans

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

This week, Jason is joined by the newest cast member on Bravo’s Summer House, Jesse Solomon!  Jesse joined season eight of the hit reality show after working a career in corporate finance and the music industry. Throughout this season, Jesse has become a fan favorite of the show and even opened up about being a cancer survivor after being diagnosed with testicular cancer back in 2017. Jesse gives insight to leaving his corporate job to pursue social media and reality TV, how Summer House found him, breaking down his career path from college for music business to networking his way up, behind the scenes of working for WME, being unapologetically himself, and his current dating status. Jesse also reveals his business plan while navigating the digital world, still working in finance, the decision to share his cancer journey, the importance of going to the doctor as an adult, what market he wants to get into, and what he considers his own personal red flags. How did he and his former business partner raise over $11M for their startup? Has he run into any issues when working with an investor group?  Jesse reveals all that and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!  Host: Jason Tartick Co-Host: David Arduin Audio: John Gurney Guests: Jesse Solomon Stay connected with the Trading Secrets Podcast!  Instagram: @tradingsecretspodcast  Youtube: Trading Secrets Facebook: Join the Group All Access: Free 30-Day Trial  Trading Secrets Steals & Deals! Resibrands: Ready to begin your entrepreneurial journey but not sure where to start? Join Resibrands and take the step from 0 to 1 in owning your own business with our proven franchising system. ResiBrands is a community of shark-like entrepreneurs working alongside each other to create a home service revolution. We eat the competition, so take a bite out of a wealthier future and visit us at resibrands.com today Linchpin: Hiring top talent for your teams has never been easier. Linchpin is a recruitment firm that creates custom hiring and consulting services. If you are looking for a results driven and human-centered approach - this is your solution. Head over to thelinchpinco.com/contact and select Trading Secrets in the 'Where did you learn about us” section for 10% off your first placement! Shopify: Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify’s the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy’s, and Brooklinen, and millions of other entrepreneurs of every size across 175 countries. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/secrets ZocDoc: Zocdoc is a FREE app and website where you can search and compare highly-rated, in-network doctors near you AND instantly book appointments with them online. Find and book a top-rated doctor today by heading to zocdoc.com/TRADINGSECRETS Bilt Rewards: With the Bilt Card, earn extra points on rent days and get exclusive travel and fitness rewards and the best part is that even if your landlord requires a check or a specific payment portal, Bilt can handle it all. The card is a no-brainer in my opinion. Earn points by paying rent right now when you go to joinbilt.com/TRADINGSECRETS *Terms apply. BetterHelp: If you’re thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It’s entirely online. Designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist, and switch therapists any time for no additional charge. Take a moment and visit BetterHelp.com/tradingsecrets today to get 10% off your first month.  Trading Secrets is sponsored by BetterHelp

Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. I'm your host, Jason Tartick, and welcome to the pre-market trading segment. We'll tell you a little bit about our guest today. A quick money tip and an update for my personal life. I usually go in that order, but this is an intro like no other because I am live right here. year right now in Orlando, Florida. This is like the trip of Florida this week. Tampa Bay to Orlando, back to Tampa Bay, heading all the way to Fort Lauderdale for game seven of the Stanley Cup. And right now I'm live with the one and only, the curious Canadian who's here with me, David, how are we doing? We're doing amazing. We've had an amazing weekend together in Orlando and a sad that it's almost over, but don't, what did they say?

Don't, don't be sad because it, don't be sad because it's over, smile because it happened. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling about this weekend. There's a little life advice from you. And we on this episode have Jesse Solomon from Summerhouse. Now you've watched him closely on TV. Jesse Solomon, 6.5, dark hair. No trust fund on his way to millions. That's how I would say.

I actually, I just met a girl with no couch. She is coming. The girl who came up with that song, 6,5, blue eyes, on that trust fund. he's coming on the podcast. Love it. So get ready for that one. But would you think, how would you summarize

in 30 seconds the Jesse Solomon episode that people are going to be listening to right away? Yeah, it reflects how he was on the show. He comes in hot. You're like,

am I going to like this guy? Is this going to be good? And he ends as like a sweetheart that you just want to get more of. Great sound bites, great quotes. Like, I want more Jesse Solomon. Yeah, and I will say

he throws a ton of entertainment your way. There are a lot of lines dropped in this episode that'll get you laughing and if you need a smile on your face this Monday morning. David, money tip.

Usually it comes from me. Let's have it come from you. You got a money tip? You know what? I'm not the guy for money tips, but I think I might have one here. So tell me if this fits the narrative. So I've been on the podcast for three years. I'm one of Jason's best friends.

And you think that he might just pay me over a Venmo or, you know, he might just let me some cash. No, we do it legit here. 1099 employee, Red Ridge Consulting. I get the W9. You got to submit it. Guys, the accountant, you get the little tab at the end of the year. I get it all, right? So here I am.

We're in Orlando. Okay. We're podcasting from Orlando. That means I am traveling for work. I had to fly here. I had to get a rental car. We had a dinner. Guess what?

I get to write those things off. Something I've never done before is write off business expenses to business that I earn income for. Am I? Is that correct? I'm doing that right. You're down right. You are. Here we are.

Staring Jason in the eyes. We're podcasting Orlando. This is a business meeting happening here in Orlando. There are expenses that came to have this business meeting. I'll be writing those off, saving some money come tax time. And that is a real life money tip. We talk, we talk entrepreneurship, we talk side hustles. There's probably guaranteeing people who listen to this that are 1099 employees.

I'm a 1099 employee. I've never written anything off from my business. That changes in 2024. That's my money tip. There we go. I love that. Now make sure to check all your writeoffs with your account or a profession. but you are bang on, you would have made this trip irregardless, but here we are on the ones

and twos, and now you can write portion of this trip off. That is a beautiful thing. That is tax strategy. And of all people coming from one and only, the curious Canadian. A little update from my personal life, knee, Kat, and David and Ashley are here in Orlando. Having a great weekend. You'll have to stay tuned to the end of this episode and the recap to see what David thinks about cat and everything happening in my personal life. So that comes at the recap. And you know what? I am just so pumped for this week.

It's going to be a big one. It's starting off with a splash. We have one of what David will say, and you'll hear more in the recap. The most important hockey game in the history of the NHL. You guys know David played hockey in college. David coaches hockey for some of the best youth hockey players in the entire world. And he said it himself, this is the most important hockey game.

in NHL history. You'll hear more about that. But for now, enough of hockey, enough of me, Ashley, Kat, and David, enough of the money tips and write-offs. Let's get into the 6-5 handsome, dark-guide Summerhouse star, Jesse Solomon. Welcome back to another episode of Trading Secrets. Today, we are joined by the newest cast member on Bravo Summerhouse Jesse Solomon. Jesse joined season eight at the hit reality show after working a career in corporate finance and the music industry. Throughout this season, Jesse has become a fan favorite of the show and even opened up about being a cancer survivor after being diagnosed with testicular cancer back in 2017.

We are going to learn why Jesse decided to get into the reality TV space, how he has specifically was casted onto Summer House than if he plans to keep working in corporate America and how surviving cancer has shaped his life. Moving forward, Jesse, thank you so much for being on Trading Secrets. for having me. The nicest guy on the internet welcomes me to his podcast. What a feeling. What an honor. Well, you are now one of the newest and hottest guys on a big show. I mean, when I say that and you look at your career being in the music industry, WM, corporate finance, now reality TV, look at you. It's like you got a stylist here. You're looking good. The shirts

on button. Girls are coming to your front door. What does it feel like? Did you ever expect this? You know, it feels right. I never was trying. to be on reality TV, but I was always just, you know, the main character of my own movie. So now that everybody else seems to like me, it's been really fun. I'm just so grateful for the whole experience. What was that main character before Bravo cameras caught you? I mean, I'm just very authentically myself, I think. I'm just high energy and fun-loving, driven. But at the end of the day, I just like to have fun. Yeah. Okay. So you won't. go in literally this short time frame, you know, very small following on TikTok and

Instagram. Now within just a very short period of time, over 100,000 followers on Instagram, 30,000 followers on TikTok. And you had worked in the entertainment space before, right? So you've seen this a little bit. And you've also seen the movement of reality TV in many ways. You've seen the shift where it was extremely successful. We're in a stage now where there's a lot of reality TV, but it's very diluted. Like it's hard to make the big career move out of it. You made a huge move, like leaving your corporate job to pursue this. What was the thought process? I mean, I still work a bit, but I think at the end of the day, we're in a digital first world. So I wasn't like trying to become an influencer by being on reality TV, but I think

it's important to have a personal brand. And so many opportunities can come out of that. So I'm still kind of coming to terms with like having a lot of followers because I'm not like a digital creator by nature. And I've always thought it was kind of cringe to like be a guy posting on social media. But like that's just the reality of our world today. And it's just been fun and I'm embracing it. Do you still think it's cringe to be a guy posting on social media for money? I mean, it's a business at the end of the day and I'm a businessman. Yeah.

So if I'm if I'm making money from it, like that's not cringe. And I try to do it in a way that is kosher. Okay, I like that. We'll get into the money aspect. That's what we do here. At least we got to try to do here. That's for sure. Before we get into the money aspect, how did Summer House find you?

I mean, the show is blowing up. You know, so many seasons, it's virality left and right on every single platform, social media-wise. So they're looking for everyone and anyone. Why you? How'd they find you? Yeah. I mean, this time last year, I had not been in contact with anybody. I'd met Kyle a little bit, just partying in the city as Kyle does. Where did you guys party? Oh, you know, make believe one time.

So you were like definitely a finance bro. You are a finance. Well, listen, I mean, I went to University of Miami for music business. Yeah. And I studied vocal jazz performance. I then worked at William Morris in the mail room, music department, became an agent, and then left with my business partner from WME to start my own business. And I did that for four years. And I got so far away from the music business. We raised $11 million. We pivoted a million times. And I ended up divorcing him amicably and retreated into finance because I thought it was like the most risk-averse way to be successful. And I kind of had to like hush my personality and tone it down. And it just wasn't a good fit for me. So I had a couple jobs, some really good jobs. I was able to network my way into like a great place. And I'm

super grateful for all those experiences and the two companies I worked at. But now I have more of like a commission based role in finance. And then I'm also doing all the reality TV stuff. Okay. Cool. So that kind of connects to you were probably suppressed a little bit to showcase all that you have with your with your so then you're going to the club that's when you meet Kyle how does Kyle connect you to the show I so the producers reached out to me June 14th and Kyle and I talked about it a little bit as a joke but then yeah June 14th we talk really quickly I'm on a family vacation it was kind of just like listen it's summer house so it's not like a small show so that's why I even took the call I was actually at a Amex lounge and

Minneapolis traveling from a conference and I was just like, listen, I probably am not going to do this because my life is really good right now. Like I'm about to move back to Miami. I have this good job. Everything's going well. But like, I am your guy for this. Why? Why are you? I'm tall. I talk to every girl at the bar. Like, I go to the Hamptons every summer. Like, I'm your guy. And she's like, are you six five? Yeah, I'm six five. Are you in finance? Do you have a trust fund? No trust fund. Um, unfortunately. Brown eyes, six, five in finance for all those single ladies out there. I'm taking a couple of the boxes, missing a couple too. Okay. But, uh, hopefully we'll be okay without the trust fund. There you go. We're going to make our own trust fund for the next

gen. I love to hear that. All right. So they approach you and you're a smart guy, especially you've been in the music space. You know how branding works. It sounds like you already had a pretty good idea of what your brand would be. But what do you think, and especially like I talk about this in The Bachelor, you know, they got chess pieces and they know like, at least least what they think each person's going to be like, what did you expect your brand to be when you decided to sign on? Yeah, I would say first and foremost was my cancer story. Yeah. I thought that that would help a lot of people. Like, even if the whole house hated me and I hated the experience and, you know, worst case scenario, at least I would be able to help

one person with my story and people would relate to it and connect. And that, that's honestly been the most rewarding piece of all this. But then also, I'm not stupid. Like, I knew there would be business opportunities. And I feel like I've been so aggressively hunting down and, you know, reaching out, doing outgoing my whole life. And finally, I'm in a place with leverage where I have incoming opportunities. And it feels so good.

Yeah. People are coming to you now, right? Which is a whole different ballgame. Totally. Let's go. And we'll talk about what that ballgame looks like now. Let's go to previous jobs we had. So when you worked at WME as an music agent, people hear that, especially back home.

They have no idea what that means, how much you make. And like, it sounds cool. Is it cool? How much can you make? What does it look like? What's that job like? The best dates in New York City. Why?

Because you just told people what you did? No, the perks. Like, we booked concerts for all of WME's roster in the New York area is what, like, the music department does. They're like a travel agent. for musicians. Interesting. So give me an example of what that would look like.

Like Drake is performing at MSG. WME does the deal. They take a typical talent agent takes 10%. If you're Drake, it's probably lower. Okay, so Drake books at MSG. WME will actually book him there. The agent that books Drake there

typically would take 10%. Drake obviously is leverage. So let's just say it's 7%. He'll get 7%. He or she will get 7% of whatever Drake's paid. Correct. Okay. So what was your role to be one of those agents, like book a Drake? Yeah, except I was not cool enough to ever sign anybody remotely close to Drake. My partner and I were the agents for Harry Potter live in concert.

Wow. Okay. So we would actually... So that's where you brought your dates? So we would, I would have symphony dates, but because I was part of the music department, I had access to everyone on our roster. Yeah. So, I mean, in the mailroom, you get paid minimum wage. Like, you're eating shit for breakfast. You eventually get onto someone's desk as their assistant. You don't even get an email with your own name.

It says, like, their name underscore ASST at WME. And then maybe you get to coordinator. I was very quickly promoted at a young age because I went into this niche that nobody else cared about. You know, I came into WM. me like going to Ultra and I was like I'm going to work in EDM and then I get there and my you know now former business partner's like listen so I've got this huge Harry Potter project with orchestra like I don't have time to interview you right now but like we got to just start booking shows like are you in and I was like this guy's young he's fun like he wants me to actually do some of the

selling and I was like it sounds like a good opportunity I can always go into EDM or whatever the fuck later. Yeah. Can I swear on this podcast? You can swear. You can whatever you want. So at the height of your career at WME, give me an idea like around how much do you make base and then like bonus. What does it look like? Yeah. So I would say mail room assistant. It's like minimum wage. They might have increased it a little bit. And then coordinator, you know, a little bit more as you're a first year agent. Like it's still not great. Like you're approaching like 60 figures. A hundred grand. Yeah, but like you'd think it'd be better for like an agent at the number one agency. Yeah.

But then you get a bonus. But like the bonuses? Oh man, I'm probably not supposed to talk about this. Well, it's financial transparency here. Were they, you were underwhelmed with the bonuses compared to what they should have been? Yeah, because listen, there's agents who sign clients and there's agents who book clients for the guys who sign. It's like some people bring in business and some people are the territory agent for, the Northeast. And they book all the EDM guys in the Northeast. And so that's like a much

lower commission percentage. Okay. So listen, I don't know what everybody's making, but the top agents, yeah, you can make a lot, but there's only a few of those guys. What's a lot? Over seven figures? Yeah. Yeah. The top, top agents in the music business are making a million dollars plus. Okay. Who is like, when you're in the music agency business and you're working, who is like the person. When I was there. Like Scooter Braun? Is that? No, so Scooter Braun's a manager.

I mean, I think they also have a label. He does a lot of different stuff. But the agents are not typically like household names. Okay. So they're much more under the range. Yeah, like I could say some guys' names that you wouldn't recognize. Yeah. Okay.

So you get out of that business and then we're going to get into Summerhouse in just a second for all my Summerhouse fans. But you did mention that you started a business with a business. partner. You then later amically divorced from that business partner. But the one thing that caught my, my ear was you raised $11 million. Is that what you said? Tell me about that. We raised money from VC and we're actually trying to close the acquisition of that business today. Three o'clock was actually the meeting. The acquisition of what business? It's called Mickey. Okay. We started off trying to be what we were doing at William Morris and just make it digital.

So originally it was a brand licensing marketplace where manufacturers and brands could connect online and negotiate deals, royalty payouts, contracting, et cetera, really how that whole licensing world should work, you know, automating the agent out of the equation, but not just for brands and entertainment, but for food and beverage, digital, fashion. and it was very difficult. You know, Disney does not need some startup to help them license out Mickey Mouse because they make billions of dollars in licensing revenue every year. And we were like, we got to pivot. So we're kind of like getting two sides of a marketplace. Like we wanted manufacturers to sign up. So we're putting out Google ads saying, are you a U.S. manufacturer?

Yeah. Sign up for Mickey to sell your product overseas. We thought that would be kind of like, niche was like a reverse Alibaba. Alibaba sells 100,000 t-shirts from China to the United States, but there was no website to buy the cotton used to manufacture those t-shirts and were like the largest. So like a raw materials. A raw materials and Amazon for raw materials and Amazon for commodities. An American Alibaba, that was kind of like an idea we had toyed with in our minds and we were so successful at WME that we were like, we're going to be billionaires.

like this is the greatest idea ever where it's going to be easy where did you guys raise 11 million so our first round was friends and family then we did a million dollar pre-seed round with light bank which is a group out of chicago who's been with us you know the whole time they joined our board and then lear hippo out of new york let our true seed round that was a three and a half million dollar round and then after that we did a five million dollar convert note that was supposed to convert into our A and then the market's changed and the A never came and we raised an extension. So we've really been just like piecing it together ever since that Lear Hippo round back in the day. Interesting time to do it obviously with the whole market shift and where money, the cost of capital, where they're investing, how much, all the things. The quick question I have for you is when you divorced from that partnership, what did it look like? Did you have like how did you, did you walk away with any money? Did you, how did you determine the valuation? What? What did the exit look like?

Yeah, so I was two-thirds vested at the time. So as a founder, you get equity, but then you become an employee of your own company to inspire people to stay with the company. So they have to earn their equity over time. I had been there three years. So I got put on a new vesting schedule when the new investor came in.

It's all semantics. But I had two-thirds of my equity and still a meaningful piece of the company. And, you know, you keep getting diluted more and more over time as more investors come in. But yeah, if we get acquired, I will make money. You're being in good shape. How much, are we talking millions? We're definitely not talking about that, brother. Hundreds of thousands?

Definitely. So we got a six-figure check coming. Well, we don't have it coming. We don't talk about it. It could happen before they happen. Yeah, fuck. You got to manifest it. All right.

That would be a good thing if that happened, but we're not going to say it's happening until it happens. Okay, we'll have you back on when you do. And I want to talk about your branding with Summer House and then how you're going to transition this into a longer-term business. Before I get into the branding, of course, things that happen on the show, then connect to your branding. So I feel like, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, when you first started on the show, there was like people are trying to like figure, figure out just like what's the deal here like where is he at and then they grew they heard your story and it goes like a snowball effect the snowball kept getting bigger bigger and the growth was there and people had a big liking towards you but there's also a little bit of drama because

you're this tall handsome man and there's beautiful women on that show like page to sorbo right but she's in a relationship with people that really like Craig and there's all these things and you're doing a little flirting like where do you like what's your your take on when you're thinking about brand and business, how to manage some of these things that could, like, severely impact your brand, even though you might have interest. Yeah, I think brands today are more open to people on TV who are drinking and partying and hooking up with girls. You just have to be a good...

That's a line we haven't heard on the show. I like it. So, yeah, you have to be a good person. And, like, that's... I can only be my... myself and I can be honest. And as long as I'm not deceiving anyone or lying and just being a bad person, I think brands still want to align with you. Is the flirting that's happening like that there's least speculation with like an Amanda or a page? Do you think that's blown out of

proportion or do you think there's some validity? Yeah. People, people love it. With page, the first day I show up to the house, the producers are like, let's have a big season. I'm like, Tequila shots, let's go. And I get drunk and I say something, like just a little flirtatious. Like, she's like, I said, it could be good for you. She says good for you. She puts me in a body bag. Just absolutely dominates me.

I'm like, you can take a shot out of my dent. That's, I feel like that's what Paige does. She puts people in body bags. Yeah. And like, I didn't know what to expect. On the show, nobody told me she had a boyfriend. I obviously knew she had a boyfriend. But I was like acting like this was, you know, my first time meeting Paige.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and then I go the whole season, forgetting that I had kind of, like, flirted with her that day. And flirting's all about intent anyways, right? It's true. I wasn't trying to do anything. I was just being friendly, you know, happy go lucky Jesse. Anywho, as the season goes on, it kind of dissipates. Craig didn't think it was a big deal.

Like, he was a total gentleman about it because he knows that, like, it was all in good fun. And with Amanda, it's like my friend. wife. Yeah. I mean, Kyle was just here. There didn't seem to be any tension between you two. Kyle's got enough to worry about. He's like running a huge business. Like he trusts me and he know and he trusts Amanda. Like girls need compliments. Everybody needs compliments. Because you'll even in the comments on Instagram and stuff like like Amanda will put a picture. You're like looking hot or something. Like you'll you'll throw it in that. I do the same thing to every girl on our cast and all my girlfriends in real life. Yeah. Like that's just how I am.

I'm just trying to gas up my girls. I want them confident. Half the battle is how you feel. Okay, so no beef between you and any of the boyfriends who've been on the show before. Obviously, everything on the Manda and Page is fun friendship. So that's good to know that.

How about your dating life? You dating anyone? You see anyone? What's that look like? Of course. Are you on Raya swiping away? What do you do it? So I'm on Raya.

Maybe the next bachelor? I never say never, but I think the bachelor is a bit different from my show. I haven't been dating as much as I was over the summer. I think I was just like really settled in over the summer and going to the Hamptons every weekend, meeting girls, dating in the city. Right now, just like a lot of things are happening with my career. So like, dude, last night I was on TikTok live for the first time watching the finale. I was like, I did an Amazon live during the day, like things that are more important to me than dating. Yeah. So I haven't had a lot of time. So you're focused, you're like all in on the business

aspect of this. You're just not even focused on going on dates or anything like that. Yeah, I've always been super ambitious. I just didn't know what my path would be. And I'm just so happy that I've finally found something that doesn't feel like work. Like I can pour my energy into all these things. and I am not nervous. It doesn't feel like work, and I can work a lot of hours at it. Okay. And that's why I'm happy that I made this choice.

I love it. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for your future, too. Jesse and I talked before you were going on the show a little bit. So to see how far you've come just in that time period is super exciting. Now, we play nice with everyone from Bravo because we want to continue to have people from Bravo on our show. And we do have a Bravo representative in the house here.

Give it up for Brittany. Brittany, you can give us the thumbs up or down for any of these questions if you can or can't answer them. But if I don't answer them, then my team, you know, the whole listening audience yells at me. But can you talk at all about how much you were paid and how you negotiated? For sure, not. Okay, that's a big no. Okay, we have two thumbs down over there. I can say that I think.

How many episodes is it, the show? It's 17 with the reunions. Yeah. Okay. Let me ask you that can you share, give us a thumbs up or down. Is it like one lump sum or is it paid on an episodic basis? It's per episode. Per episode.

Okay. All right. Sounds good. Is it changing your life? The Bravo money is not life-changing your first year. Okay. But it increases over time. Okay.

Without getting anyone else in trouble, we'll kind of end it there. But I will ask you this as a business owner and an entrepreneur, when it does come time, negotiate. Is that, like, are you going to be taking entrepreneurial tactics with you're negotiating? Or you just like, listen, I love this. Just put me on the next season, please. Yeah, I'm a big picture guy, but no, I will definitely, I negotiate everything. My dad's lawyer. I have a lawyer. As a former agent, will you represent yourself? No. You'll have an agent? I do. I mean, for a lot of things. Yeah, it's just kind of good. Now that I'm the talent, it's good to take yourself out of the equation.

I know you got one agent over there that brings your deals. But like who does, who would negotiate your deal then? Someone from W.E. I have a friend who is acting as my manager right now. And she is amazing. Is it really just you in an email acting as someone else? No, it's not. Her name's Nikki.

And she is an actual lawyer. And she has my best interest at heart. So it's kind of nice having a friend do this. I love it. That's awesome. Well, good for you. Is there any word, you can give us a thumbs up or down

because we want to make sure we're playing nice with a network we love and want to continue to work with. But is there any word on a potential renewal? Do you know if next season's in the picture? Yeah, we got renewed, brother.

And you'll be a big part of it. I can't say. That's what I'm not, I know the show's got renewed. I'm talking about you. You're my guest. We got all-time viewership, brother. We're going to be back.

I mean, yeah. You expect to be back on the next season? Yeah. You're hopeful. I'm very hopeful that I will be in the Hamptons I will be in the Hamptons regardless if I'm on the show but I'm hopeful it'll be on the show I like it something tells me that business brain is like I'm going to stay focused on business and if I start dating I'm going to make sure it's on camera because that's part of my business I mean I'm only going to date someone if they're a good fit for me or a good potential fit I can't just date somebody because it's good TV that's good so for you when you look at now you're into this new world when you're A whole new word. Sing it, baby. We got a six foot five Aladdin right here.

That's a whole different story. But do you, do you know, all right, you're now in the creator space. You're now a reality TV star. Would you date someone that's listening to this? That's not in the reality TV space. That's not in a creator. Okay. Yeah.

I haven't run into anyone who won't date me because I'm on TV yet, but I'm sure that will happen. Yeah. So I'm very much focused on the career stuff. But if the right girl comes along, I would still date her. I would just hope that somebody who loves and understands me would like want to be a part of my lifestyle. Yeah. So hopefully it would just go hand in hand. Really cool.

Okay. As you look to your career now in this creator space, you said it's giving you a lot of access, you're loving it. Do you have like when you're obviously a numbers guy too, do you have certain goals? I'm trying to monetize at this level, or I'm trying to hit a certain following by this period, or I'm trying to do X amount of posts. Like, what's your business approach or business model or business plan to this now new business that you got almost like thrown into? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, like we talked about, given it's a digital world, I think it's better to post more days than you don't. Yeah. But, you know, don't overpost if you have nothing going on. but luckily I have a lot going on. So I'm trying to post as much as I can a goal as far as making money. I want to be making millions a year.

Yeah. Who doesn't? Yeah. But, you know. When manifested here, at what year will Jesse be making millions a year off his personal brand? Give it to me. I hope people don't think I'm a cock for talking about my own personal fucking money. This is what the show is what we do here.

Well, hang on, hang on. So just so you understand. Do people speak about their net worths on the- Oh, everything? Really? Oh, yeah. I give every number. But here's the thing, though. Here's the thing. You talked about intention, flirting intention. With this show, I really try and do a good job of this, is that the idea is with anything that's shared as it relates to numbers and transparency. It's for a purpose of like productivity and education. It's not a means to flaunt, brag, or flex. It's a means to say, like, hey, I used to be in finance. I now took a shot. I'm in reality TV. I'm working on building this brand. And I might have a chance to make millions. And maybe there's someone that's out there that's a small business or that's thinking about stepping into creating or got offered a reality TV job, whatever it might be, through what you're experiencing, your transparency to it can give them direction as that navigate financial life. Because my overall thesis is when it comes to negotiating and when it comes to spending and when it comes to anything money, we were never taught money, therefore we don't know how to talk about it.

And as a means of that, we have been told that is almost unethical, it's against etiquette to speak with it. But if we don't speak about it, we know that we're going to make less. We know we're going to spend more. And we know that our relationships, as far as love and money, they become a disaster when we don't speak about it. So, like, that's the thesis of the podcast. Amen. So what I would say is, like, when you think through something like an answer like that, the idea isn't to do like a flex. I'm going to make $10 million.

It's be like, no, I'm going to really work my ass off in this. And if I can make seven fingers in three years, that would be a dream, right? It's more an educational tool. Yeah, I would say in 2025, if I made a million dollars, and I would just like to clarify that I also still am actively working in finance, not in a 40-hour-a-week capacity. I think that's why a lot of people on our show don't have like a full-time thing is because it's just difficult with, I mean, you sound like a wuss saying that it's difficult

to like go to the Hamptons and be on TV, but there's just like a lot that goes into it that the viewer doesn't see during the week. The time commitment, like anything in filming, the time commitment usually is pretty exorbitant. Like, there's a lot of hours of filming, right? So I help businesses find alternative capital to traditional bank financing. Okay, cool.

And then I also offer some of those deals out to investors to syndicate into those loans. Sure, cool. So. And you're doing, would you say 20 hours? I would say between 10 and 20 hours working on that. And it's more like I have a deal. I blast it out to a group of investors.

They say if they're interested in the deal or not, and I match them up and take a management fee. Now, you're not working for corporation where the bureaucracy is important because you're working for yourself. But have you run into any issues when you're working with an investor group, even though you're working for yourself

and you're trying to structure a deal? and they're like, you're the guy on Summerhouse that's, like, making out with girls. Yeah. Have those worlds collided business-wise? Yeah, I mean, the job that I had when I was on the show is not the job that I have now. Yeah. So I don't want to get too much into that. I've been there.

I got, I lost my job. Yeah. I was working in a private credit fund that was the largest lenders to the cannabis industry, and I was raising money for that strategy. They have a publicly traded entity, and there's government. and compliance and things that go along with running that operation. So, yeah, having a guy on summer house drinking is probably not the best look for the firm. But, yeah, so the short answer is yes.

Yeah. I have run into that. But right now I'm in a really good place. Okay. Very cool. One thing you've also been vulnerable about, talked about it. I think it was the May 16th episode about your emotions running high as you expressed your anxiety with your upcoming five-year cancer scan.

the May 16th episode. So I think your vulnerability to that was inspiring and it allowed you to connect an impact a lot of people, which was your overall goal. Can you share a little bit about your decision to share that journey? Was there any reluctancy? Yeah, there was never a decision. It was always part of who I am. It plays into so many factors in my life. And I would say I felt a little rushed into sharing it with the house, but I wasn't scared. But there is that first episode where I'm sitting on a bench with like Amanda and Gabby and everybody's drunk and the girls are asking me a million questions. And they're like, can you give the guy a second answer?

Like, they're immediately asking like, what's the worst thing that ever happened to you? And I was like, I fell off my bike one time. I was like, what do I lie about here? Like, I didn't want to, you don't just show up. Yeah, you want to get to know people. a little bit and keep it authentic but it's just a big part of my life and I wasn't hesitant to share it I know there's a stigma associated with cancer and testicular cancer but I just thought that my story could encourage people to check themselves to go to the doctor and get checked and to

just know that there's other people out there going through something similar and you can beat this you're going to beat this and you're going to come out the other side and be partying with your friends in the Hamptons. How often should we get checked, knowing what you know now? I believe the guidance for testicular cancer is to grab your nuts every month. It's either every month or every month. The delivery of that coffee off card. I'm sorry.

Grab your nuts every month. Grab your nuts every month. Yeah, and don't panic because nuts are a complicated thing. They are. There's a lot going on. Yeah, you'd think it was just smooth and simple. So don't worry too much. but just make sure if you see anything new,

if you feel anything new. And then go to the doctor once a year. I feel like people stop getting a physical once, like their mom stops making them go. Like we're supposed to go to the doctor every year, get blood work, get a checkup, see how everything's going. Confession, though, I, when I was like with a pediatrician, I feel like they checked for hernia or like pants down every time.

Yeah. Since I've been an adult, I mean, I do blood work, all that stuff, but I've never had them do that. Right. Is that common? Yeah, I don't think they continue to check it unless you complain of symptoms. Okay. So it's a lot of onus on, like you said, grab your nuts.

Grab your nuts. Do some inspection. Yeah, ladies, grab your boobs. Okay. We'll do some grabbing out here, but only grabbing of your own property. That's what we're endorsing. And then the blood work. I mean, there's things in your blood work that will show signs.

That's a good point. So it's just good to go to the doctor, even if you feel good. You got to check the insides. Okay, let's talk about impact. You said you would do this show. One of the big incentives for you to do it was if you can make impact to one person. Obviously, a show like Summerhouse is one of the biggest shows out on TV. What kind of impact have you seen or like things have you received from being vulnerable?

And I ask you this because I think for anyone out there that's like thinking twice about being vulnerable, you are a living example of those who share can create impact. It's one person. Yeah. No, I appreciate that. And I get goosebumps thinking about the messages and the cameos where people say, my dad's going through chemo right now. Like,

can you cheer them up? Give them a pump up speech. And, like, those are my favorites. Like, I get so amped up. I'm like, you're going to come out the other side of this so much happier and so much better

for it. Like, this is just a short period of time. You've got to work through just so many DMs, so many comments of people who, you know, Everybody knows somebody who has cancer. So I think whether that person has cancer or they know somebody who has cancer, it's just

kind of relatable to see somebody going through something like that. Yeah. Well, thank you for sharing that story. And for anyone out here that's listening, you know, feel free to reach out to Jesse with any questions and grab your nuts. And if you got boobs, grab your boobs. All right, let's transition to what I'm going to call our Talk Money to Me segment. So you are single.

I wrote the book, Talk Money to me, right? I thought we were out of the money. And so this is fun. This is a fun way. What I like to say is for people like you that are sweating a little bit with money. What I like to say is we can actually ask questions that are easy that make money conversations fun, especially when we're dating. So I'm going to ask you some questions that I suggest people when they're dating to start bringing into to have light money conversations because you are single, you're on the market. There might be some people listening to this that are interested in you. So the first one is, is how would you define you? find your relationship with money in just three words?

Oh, depends on the month, brother. This month today. Today it's feeling abundant. Abundant? Okay, so your relationship with money is abundant. Yeah, like I feel a positive. Okay, so if you have a positive relationship with money, abundant?

Generous. And generous. Yeah. Okay, so those are your three. Now, how about what is one thing right now that you overspend on? You know you overspend on. unless you go completely broken, you're going to keep spending on it.

What is it? I mean, I have two rents right now, but I think it's a good business move, honestly. In New York? One in New York and one in Miami. So then you could be a Florida state resident? That's not the reason, but when I was filming Summer House,

I was living in NoHo, and I was always planning to move to Miami in the fall. The company I was working out was based in Miami. Obviously, that job doesn't work out, but I went to the U. I have all my friends in Miami. I loved the lifestyle. I'd lived in New York for six years. I was ready to go back to Miami.

And then you film Summer House, whatever. I got to be back here again this summer. So now I have both. But I'm not upset about it. Okay. You know my next question. I can't ask you how much you make on Summer House, but I kind of ask you how much you're paying in rent, how much.

I do have a productive reason why I'm asking I'll share right after. Do people share how much they pay in rent on the show? share everything on this show. Kyle Cook just opened up his whole portfolio. I, my combined rent is about $6,000. Can you, and here's the productive way.

Can you with that rent, because you did say it's a good business move, can you write off any of that for like office space? Yeah, you can. I'm trying to, to the listeners back home, you have two rents, which sounds exorbitant to people, but there's obviously productivity in it.

So what is your productivity? Yeah, you can write off a small office space. I mean, being a Florida resident, there's no state tax. So I would just say that like appearances, I'm starting to get offered money for appearances. And sure, Summerhouse would like fly me for confessionals and stuff like that. But if I want to do an appearance in New York, I want to have a place to crash. Yep. And a lot of times appearances back end to give people information is they'll typically pay you a talent fee. Not always will they cover flight and hotel, but usually sometimes just lump it into talent fee.

Now, sometimes they'll pay for that. So if you have a place and your talent fee includes a hotel or $500,000 or $500,000, whatever it is now in New York, which is crazy. And you already have a place that you're renting for $3,000. Business-wise, it can be justified. Yeah. So I also think another productive means of this conversation is if you look at a price to rent ratio, right now, price to rent ratios are in major favor of renting given

the costs of real estate. So it could be much more people listening. So you should buy. Well, renting the place in two different cities, actually, it could be much more beneficial. With interest rates, I mean, I would love to buy, but right now it just makes sense to rent, given I don't know the direction of my life or who I'm going to fall in love with and where they're going to live. I love it. I got another money one for you.

See, here we go. $100,000 today, it's right in front of you, right here. Hey, you got to spend, see, you're smiling. You like it. See, this is good. Money? Now you're not nervous anymore. You have spent $100,000.

Was I nervous? Oh, you like the money conversation, you know, you're getting a little squirrel. Bring me on me. Now you're ready to go. 100K is right here, 24 hours. It has to be spent every penny where you spend it. For fun or for business? You can spit your 100K. Where's it going? You can do anything with it.

We're going out. Where are we going? The boys are going to the club. What club? Give me the details. I mean, we went to Little Sister for my birthday. That was a lot of fun. Okay, what kind of bottles you get?

I mean, you got 100K. Yeah, I mean, I don't need like, just Casamigos is good. Gray Goose for the vodka. I'm not trying to waste money, so I'm not doing like Ace of Spades. That's just ridiculous. Champaign also hurts my stomach if I'm like chugging it. It's just for show. And I don't need to like show money like that. Yeah. I would get like a table situation at Brooklyn Mirage. I love instead of little sister, I'm not like going back to back. Maybe I do. But Brooklyn Mirage could be fun with like a group of friends at a table that's expensive. Business wise, if I had a hundred. grand. I'm probably like combining that with my own personal net worth to put a down payment on some real estate. Cool. And then I'm syndicating into these deals that I broker. Those,

their high interest deals. So I'm investing it. You might have to give me a call. I might have to get into some of these deals. Come on. Okay. Fine. Give me in some of these deals. Yeah, you can get in. All right. I love it. No, I think that's good. I think just in that question, now I understand like experiences are important to you. That's why I tell people when you're dating, like I have these questions because then you start to understand where people want to spend money and why they want to spend it and things like that. Yeah, I would travel to like there's a lot of things I would do. Yeah, I love it. Okay. Do you have any type of financial no-noes when it comes to dating? So someone's going on a date with you and they tell you something about their finances and you're like,

that red flag, I'm out, not touching it with a 10-foot pole. I mean, it would maybe be a turnoff of a girl was like, I never want to work or provide do anything. Okay. But it's definitely not like a complete no-no. Okay. But yeah, I like when the girl like maybe gets a lunch, maybe gets a little croissant and brings it one day,

like just sweet little things. You like a little balance, like a little bit of a balance. First few dates, until she's my girlfriend, I'm paying for everything that we're doing is my kind of rule of thumb. Okay, there's your rule of thumb. If you're out there looking to go on a date with Jesse, you got a little couple tips and insight into it. also bring him a croissant maybe pay for a lunch or two i think he'd appreciate it all right let me ask

you this you got some platform behind you have some fans you're growing by the second business wise what do you see other than appearances content creation right we just we've brought kyle's name up a few times obviously he has a spritz do you see any type of future business ownership plays that you're thinking about and if you're not thinking about it what does it look like yeah can i just go back to the question earlier about, you know, did I do this for the followers, too? Like, you can look at previous guys on this show. Like, the followers aren't guaranteed. Like, there's guys that have 10, 20,000 followers. So it was never like a shoe in that I was going to gain notoriety. But I'm still, like, kind of coming into my own and coming to terms of the fact that

I have over 100,000 people who want to know what I'm doing. You also don't know. Like, I mean, I think, you know, it's two great examples, Page of Sorboa and Hannah Berner. Like back in 2019, 18, the first time I met them, they had like, I think I was like probably 100, 200,000 followers, right? Yeah. And you look at them today, I mean, they have millions and they're killing it, right? So, like, it's not a shoe and it's not a guarantee. And you don't know when and if it will pop or it ever will pop for sure.

Yeah, totally. But to answer your question, I think going into this, I was excited about starting another business. That was kind of like a big thing for me was I'd done like a B to B market. place, a business to business kind of company. And then I was interested in starting something that was more consumer products focused. So selling something to consumers, not to businesses. And then as I started to do the show and I saw all the different brand opportunities that kind of poke their heads out and seeing how successful pages between the podcast, like I did

Amazon Live yesterday. I loved it. Like I enjoy hosting. I would love to be a judge on a American Idol or like Terry Cruz on dancing with the stars or whatever show. He's like those opportunities I love, but I would like to have equity in another business. And my friends and I are talking about starting a men's bathing suit line. Very cool. Yeah. Very glad you didn't say canned cocktail. Yeah.

You have a few more podcasts about that. So I think that's cool. I think in the men's bathing suit industry, you kind of need something new. Yeah. I mean, it was Wilbur Quinn when I was in college. and that's like a $300 plus price point. And I think there's room in the market for, I mean, if you want to take my idea, I guess.

No, I'm not going to do this one. No, not you. Oh, no, I'm not telling everyone. You're showing on your playbook. Yeah, I think there's like, you know, a $100 to $200 price point where you just do bathing suits well. Hmm.

Interesting. I feel like Hamptons is definitely going to be your target market. It goes along with my brand nicely, I think. Like, I'm a fun-loving... What kind of shirt you wear in there? This is from Reese. How much does that cost? Don't worry about it.

How about that chain? That likes to be nice. No, I mean, this chain is like... It just has a music note on it. My stylist got it on the street of New York. But this one's real. That's cool. You can go to Tribeca and they just weigh it on a scale based on how long it is.

Oh, interesting. I didn't know that. It's white gold. Oh, wow. We've got to do that. Yeah, let's all go. Let's go do that. I love that.

Boys, we'll do that. Then we'll go to Little Sisters. Then we'll go to what's it called Brooklyn Mirage? Brooklyn Marage. Is that where you young kids party now? Yeah, I like dance music. Yeah, I could tell. What kind of dance music?

Just like house music. I like, I would say like my biggest toxic trade is that I listen to like dubstep when I'm working out. Interesting. Yeah, biggest red flag is I enjoy dubstep. That's a red flag. I just get hyped up. You also, the only other red flag I've seen because you seem like

great guy. You are a great guy. It's when you walked in, you did reference yourself in the third person. That's a red flag. What did I say? You said, is Jesse Solomon going to eat an apple on this thing or something? You didn't say that. I was like, if he says that on the bottom, he takes ownership. I love it. That's a green flag. If you can make fun of yourself and have fun with it, that is a beautiful thing. You've had a wild career trek in a very short period of time in this entertainment space. You are buzzing. Things are moving in your direction. Your vulnerability has, you know, been a massive creator of connection for you with the audience. And now I have a feeling that your dating life is going to have massive entertainment and connection

with the audience. It sounds like, it sounds like we're going to see you on the next season. You know what? I'm not even going to ask you to confirm or deny. I think you already confirmed it kind of passively. You are sick. And you've given us ideas of where you're going and where you've been. So, Jesse, this has been a great episode of Trading Secret. but we got to wrap with the trading secret. So you've had a really interesting career track. It could be a money tip, life tip, career navigation tip. It can be only a secret that you know from the experiences you've had.

And it could just be connected to what you went through with your cancer recovery and treatment. But one trading secret from Jesse Solomon, what can you leave us with? My life motto has always kind of been luck is when preparation meets opportunity. It's something my dad always says. And, you know, I feel like, sure, Summer House reached out to me, but I was ready for it. And I'd been working hard and doing everything I could to kind of take full advantage of that opportunity. So there's still a lot to go. You know, a lot of reality TV people are just a flash in a pan.

So I'm trying to stay focused on building a sustainable career at all this stuff. And I feel very lucky. Yeah. You do feel lucky. But that's a result of putting yourself in a position to be lucky. which I think is a great trading secret you had. We're excited to continue to watch you on Bravo, and we're excited for what's next.

For anyone that wants to follow you or wants a little bit more of what you got going on, where can they find everything you have? My TikTok and Instagram are Jesse Salz. Whoever Jesse Solomon is really stole that from me. J-E-S-S-O-L-S. And then if you want to email me, investors looking to put money to work,

it's Jesse M as in Michael Solomon, S-O-L-M-O-M-O-N at Gmail.com. Is that for the alternative investment? Yeah. Shoot me that deck. I want to see that. Okay. I'm interested. We're looking at starting a full fund too.

Oh, interesting. Yeah, to diversify across a broad spectrum of deals rather than go into individual deals. We'll talk about it. Yeah, next podcast. I feel like we're going to have you on. One year from now, you're coming back on. We're going to talk about all the things. it'll be interesting to see.

And one year from now, are you in a relationship? Take a guess? Dude, I mean, I've been looking for the right girl for a long time. So I hope she's out there. She's got to be. Come on. It's June 2025. Are you in a relationship?

Yes or no? I mean, I've been out of a relationship for so long. It's hard to imagine myself in one. I got to get some dating advice from you. So you think no? I hope yes. Okay. You hope yes, but you think Vegas odds have...

very optimistic about life but for some reason i'm a slightly pessimistic about finding like a lifelong partner but having a family is like the most important thing to me so i'm i'm gonna be looking hard and hopefully i can find her in the next year and i'll tell you this from all the research i did even quoting a date of a specific episode may 16th i didn't get your age how old are i just turned 31 just turned 31 time is on your side but you're in a good spot to get all those things you want. So Jesse, thank you so much for you on this episode, sharing secrets. Thanks for having me, brother. It was good. It was awesome. Appreciate you. Ding, ding, ding. We are closing in the bell to the Jesse

Solomon episode. And the beauty of this closing bell is not only do I have the Curious Canadian on the line, on the horn, in the mics, on the ones and twos. I have them here in person in Orlando, Florida. It is the week of Florida. Florida, Tampa Bay all week. Now in Orlando and tomorrow night heading to Fort Lauderdale for game seven of the Stanley Cup. Probably what the

Curious Canadian would say is the most important game in NHL history. We got the one and only. The Curious Canadian, David, how are we doing? We're doing great. We're doing great. It's been a fabulous weekend down here in Orlando, spending some time. Ashley's down here.

Cats down here. Having a great time with you guys. Having a great time on this podcast. I'm not going to get into my hockey dynamics of why this is the biggest game in NHL history, but it very well could be. Just give me, I mean, like, come on. Like, we talk about the Super Bowl.

This is game seven Stanley Cup. We don't have to take the whole recap. Give me a quick one minute synops. It's not just game seven of the Stanley Cup. No team in NHL history has ever came back from a 3-0 deficit to win the Stanley Cup. It's only happened twice in the NHL playoff history. It's never happened in the NBA before

we're a team down through nothing comes back. So it's one of the, the rarest things that can happen in sports. You got the captain, Connor McDavid, who's the best player in the NHL, undisputed, has a chance to bring a Canadian team who hasn't won the Stanley Cup since 1993.

So we're dealing over 30 years, has a chance to bring them back from a 3-0 deficit and create history. So that is why. And he's a Canadian. He's a Canadian. And he's a Canadian. So it would be like a Canadian hero moment for the entire country. And I'm the curious Canadian. And I'm here to tell you that. I hope that the floor

Panthers win game seven. I am not cheering for the Canadian team. Everyone thinks that the Canadians all day, they just want a Canadian team to win. No, we hate, I'm a Vancouver Canucks fan. We hate every other Canadian team. There's no friendliness when it comes to your regional market. When it comes to win the Olympics, yeah, we'll cheer for Canada.

But no, I'm not cheering for Edmonton to win. I hate Emmington. They knocked Vancouver out of the playoffs in the second round. So go Florida, don't blow it. Don't be the losers. Win the cup on home ice. And when I watch the Stanley Cup, which is a tradition that I've watched, since i was my whole life i've never missed the stanley cup raising ceremony i sit in front of the

tv i shed a little bit of a tear and i love when teams went on home ice that's that much better go florida go you heard it there that game is tonight the day that this episode is released on monday june 24th but that's enough of hockey talk let's get into jesse solomon what are you thinking i was comfortable there for a little bit but we're going to pivot now jesse solomon our boy bro solomon may it might I had, bro, you said it. Everything but a trust fund. He's got the 6-5.

He's got the blue eyes. Look, Jesse Solomon came on Summer House hot, okay? I don't think anybody was prepared. What do you mean came in hot? He came in hot. He's,

he's hitting on page. Like, like he's a hound? Yeah, a little bit. He's hitting on page. She has a boyfriend. You know,

he's trying to be maybe like overly charming without being like a little bit of genuine to him. So he came in hot. And honestly, a lot of people, didn't think they like him. He came off the show, very good reputation. Okay, so knowing your

reputation of the way you perceive people, I got to imagine that Jesse Solomon you're describing here is not a just, like, you must have instantly seen him and been like, no, not my kind of guy. Yeah, not my kind of guy. Now my cup of tea. Also for new, for new audience listeners, this is how David felt about me when we first met. Oh, yeah. So like, we're not in the, we go back 15 years ago. This isn't foreign territory people here. Okay. This is kind of my process. But look, Jesse Solomon even said he talked about, you know, his relatability in the cancer with his cancer survival story and how much that, you know, resonated with a lot of viewers. And he says that's his bright spot when people

reach out about that. So you pull out the hard strings. You see the guy for who he is. I think he's a good guy. But I will say his episode, it came in a little high, just like a start to summer house. He said, being on reality TV just feels right. Now that everyone likes me, it's been, now that everyone else likes me, it's been fun. I've always been the main character in my own movie. So this guy clearly, you know, I don't take this wrong people. Loves himself. I think everyone should love himself.

I think that's a good way to approach life. But he came in hot, but man, Jay, where are you surprised kind of with his business acumen? He knows a shit. He knows a shit. I felt like I was a shit. Like, there's no doubt about that. I felt like I was Neo in the Matrix, dodging the bullets. I was dodging terms when we started talking about Hunter, his seed loan.

and his hip, hip, lear hippos, and he's talking about convertible notes, and he's talking about that was our A, our A investment. It was supposed to be our A, and we didn't get our A. And we're talking about vested, which you talked about in the Kyle Cook episode. I mean, this guy clearly has a smart business acumen. What things stood out the most to you about his business acumen? Yeah, I mean, he knows his stuff within finance, right? So when he's talking about, like, the 100K going into syndicated deals,

like when you think about syndication, just think of about a pool, of investors. So doing something as a unit with capital. Like when we would do syndicated finance deals when I worked at the bank, it might mean that one company needs like a $100 million line of credit, but one bank doesn't want to take on all that risk. So like six banks go in together in a syndicated pool. They each take a little piece of it and go into the $100 million. So think syndicated like that. And then I think when he talks about like preseed, so like precede convertible notes, that's going to be like an early stage financing. That's going to allow startup. to get a bunch of capital and raise it, but not have to give so much equity away. And then the big

thing you said is the convertible. Like what is a convertible note? Well, a convertible note is it's a debt type of bond and it actually is like, think about debt that at a certain period of time has a trigger event and can convert to shares of equity in a company. So this stuff is, this stuff's pretty intricate. Like we're getting to much more complex levels with some of the finance that he is specifically talking about. And then we even talk, David, about like, You know, I was like, I'll give you $100,000, right? Like, he does private investing where you can join private investors and get a return based on how their investments or capital or debt is performing on the companies that they decide to

place the money into. So a lot of moving parts. There's a lot more than just finance, bro. I'm here for a good time, not a long time, Jesse Sullivan. Well, you talked about $100K going into syndicating investments. he also said 100K, he'd also just go with the boys. He just wants to go clubbing. Jesse Solomon wants to go to a couple of those places he mentioned.

What is it, little sister? Honestly, it was like my favorite part. I loved like how honesty was, though. You know how many people would be so afraid of the podcast to be like, yeah, let's go clubbing, ripped 50 grand. But like, that's what he did. I love his honesty. Speaking of loving his honesty,

is he maybe the first person that's admitted why he wanted to go on reality TV. He knew he was going to open up business opportunities. Like, kind of refreshing for someone, to actually put that in the universe. And that's probably why he saves face on the back end of it because he's not trying to pretend someone or do something that he didn't intend to.

The guy is a smart businessman. He was in a position where he left the finance world, right? He's an entrepreneur. He's an investor. He wants more business. And he understands that he said, we live in a digital world and the importance of creating his brand.

So sounded like he hinted that he's going to be back on season two, which would be good for his brand. So business is good. Like when I was in that room, I could feel the energy. There's no chance he's not in season two. Again, he did not confirm that to me. But he is one million percent in my personal opinion going on season two.

And you know what? Because you could do so much with this character. You can make them lovable and likable. You can have him a good relationship. You could have him stir things up. Like there are so many things you could do with Jesse Solomon on reality TV. Oh, there's so many things. I mean, if that guy now, do you think he's walking a fine line?

I mean, he talks about... What do you mean, fine line? Because he talks about how brands are more open to people, quote, drinking, partying and hooking up with girls. And he said, I don't think anyone said that before. He says you just have to be a good person. You just can't deceive anybody.

So is he walking a fine line if that is his personal brand. He wants to make a million dollars by 2025 J. He said that. Is he walking a fine line if that's his brand? Or do you think, you know, if this guy does find someone on TV, he is a sweetheart. Like, he's got that side of him. You know, we've all had party sides of us too, but if he finds a relationship, do you think

that's better for his quote unquote brand or do you think, you know, he's walking a fine line if he just labels himself as a, you know, everyone wants a six to five guy who's funny and drinks and parties and hooks up with girls. I can't even take it seriously. It's serious. It's in my notes. I know. I know.

I'm like, listen, I think in reality TV, those who just lie into, as opposed to like trying to find their brand or do whatever, you know, kind of you even alluded to. in this question. I think those people that really rest truly in their authentic place and don't deceive and don't gaslight people and don't put out lies and all these other things that so many people do. I think the truer you are to understanding yourself and putting out there, just the better you're going to do, right? You can look at like a Harry Jousey. Harry Jousie, like, that dude owns, he's been owning his brand since day one. He came on this podcast and talked about how he wanted to make $10 million and how much he made on his only

fan's account literally Harry Joussey came on saying to get on reality TV because he wanted to get on reality TV. He sent over 100 applications into every single show and sent nudes and dick pics to producers. And I'm not saying like sent them personally. I'm saying in the formal application to literally get on the show, that's what he did, and look at him. So my point is, is I think the people that are truest to themselves in the most authentic way, whether that's a G-rated version or that is, you know, a couple of girls would be a nice guy. You're going to do well, I feel like in this space. Do you agree with that or no? Well, let's just say, you know how some people give like investing advice in the stock market

and they have to say, I'm not a financial advisor. Do not take this advice. We are not suggesting to be sending dick picks. No. Disclaimer. Disclamor. Flashing. Flashing. Disclamber.

However, it works for Harry Jousy. There is a case study that it worked. No, I, you know, look, I obviously agree on a lot of that stuff. One thing, I just hope he doesn't stop being as a quote machine. I mean, he goes, when you ask him about selling Mickey and he was, he had an appointment that day to see like the exit or the close of the company. And he said, are we talking about millions? He goes, we're definitely not talking about millions, brother.

He's like he's almost like the. And what he said his name in the third person before. Oh. And when he said like instantly the most, what he say about me, the, oh, the nicest guy in the internet just introduced me. Where he's talking about commenting on people's Instagram. He goes, I'm just trying to gas up my girls. he's just a cool machine he's a cool machine do you think it's like

is that just like the way talks you think yeah no it's finance bro but he's like he said he says he's the main character's own movie like i respect a guy who can say outlandish things you know i think a part of the reason that you like me on this podcast and sometimes i can say outlandish things can i be honest with you yeah do you know like think of one movie character or show character

okay what character out there reminds you of jessie solomon any movie, any show. Yeah, I mean, it almost, you'd have to say like Vince Vaughn in the retrospect. Okay. Just kind of like, he's going to respond. It's going to be, he's going to come at it from like a witty point of view because that's who he wants to be. He's pretty funny.

Vince Vaughn, he's tall. Vince Vaughn's a little. Vince Vaughn's like a little humble. Yeah. Which, by the way, Jesse, if you're listening to this, I would say, I would say you're arrogant, but you know, you're confident. You're very confident. He's the main character in his own movie.

Here's what I'm going to say, Johnny Drama makes a baby with Vince, Vaughn okay and then gets married to both of Wall Street wow that's a lot that's a three-headed monster right there Johnny Drama and Vince Vaughn like that's my best friend right there maybe it should just be Johnny drop I think that I think that I think so which by the way I spent a lot time with him the other week that was so much fun man he's a great whole we got to get him on the podcast he's going to come on dude the stories of how entourage ended oh yeah wow those are secrets yeah i'll be waiting for

that um you know jessie kind of hit he did hit it all he said that his old job at w m the only thing he could talk about was that it it was the best dates in new york city that's all i talked about with that not all i talked about he actually talked a lot about the music industry he definitely did not know anything about this podcast no i literally do people really tell you about how much they paying a randy yeah i'm like uh dude that's literally the show kyle cook literally just showed me his whole business before like yes unbelievable i also loved yeah when he that part and like i'm clearly looking for you know experiential insight into an industry like wmb and he's like yeah bro i got great dates yeah best dates in new york city but he gave us some numbers you know he talked

how there's very few agent top agents that are actually making a million dollar plus like you know he talked about the bonuses were underwhelming. He thought he was going to get in a little trouble for that. So look, he gave us numbers, maybe reluctantly,

maybe he was a little nervous when he did the picture after with him. Did you have a sweaty back? Because he was, you could tell he was a little nervous, but he delivered. I think he did have a sweaty back.

He's just too fucking tall. Usually you have the sweat mark. I was like on his ass. Usually you're in between the shoulder blades and now you're in the low zone. That's so funny. I did, I did like,

I did like his trading secret, though. He said luck equals perpetrate when preparation meets opportunity. You know, every successful person we've had on has some form of luck. And it's just taking advantage of that luck. I think that, you know, you sitting here today having a podcast, you can say that too. Luck for you is just being in the right place, the right time and being prepared to find it with an opportunity and be successful about it. So look, I'm a summer house guy, right?

Like, you know, we had Kyle Cook on. I already said offline or maybe in our recap, I said, if you do get the invite, I'm coming in your suitcase. And now we're just going to party it up. We're just going to be transported back into our bro days and just Jesse Solomon and Kyle Cook it up. You, me, we need to. We want to. We will be at that summer house party. Jesse Solomon, we're a big fan of you. You're a beauty. We appreciate you taking a couple good chirps. We know you can handle it. Otherwise, we wouldn't. I'm excited to see what you do with your brand. I think he's induced some big things. We know you're going to be on season two. We'll be watching on season two.

and something tells me before there might be a little bit I'm gonna guess there's a couple rocky roads ahead with Jesse and then he ends up this is like if I had a crystal ball little rocky roads

I'm talking like the type of like character he plays and the shows me like a little and then all the sun skyrocket I'm calling Rocky Road to Skyrocket I think that's my brand projection I think that he's ready for it

it's been you know what Jay I will say it's been nice having a little summer host with you guys this weekend Oh, yes. It has been nice. It has been amazing. Thank you for hosting us. We went water surfing. Wake surfing. It's called. Sorry, wake surfing. Went tubing. Yep. We made it. Unbelievable. I mean, the spread of food we had everybody. They said, just order anything you want in Uber Eats. I ordered Taco Bell. I ordered Chinese food from Peiway. I ordered pizza and wings from Italian joint here. And then I ordered a little Panera side salad. Is that I hit it all? Yeah. Four. We hit. Listen. If there's, listen. If there's a One thing I can count on Jason on, if there's one of his best qualities, he's the best over-orderer in DoorDash history. No one goes hungry when Jason's on the DoorDash ones and twos. Nothing makes me happier.

So we had a great weekend, a great spread. We said it's a core memory weekend. A lot of core memories created this weekend. A lot of core memories. And then I think we just got to end it with this. Your approval of my new girlfriend, Cap, is important. The Money Mafia. Listen.

I mean, we could take this to a more. You think July 4th, maybe, we do a special More Than Money episode jump. There's a lot. I mean, I don't know where we're going to go, but there's a lot to cover here. Yeah, more than money, we're definitely going to celebrate life. It's going to be called the celebration of life. We're going to get into this. Yeah, I mean, approval's great.

If you've listened to this podcast and you know me, you know, I'm all about hot takes. I'm all about honesty. My wife, Ashley, is not on this podcast. She will give the hot takes. You can't get anything by Ashley. If she doesn't, if she will let you know right away, She's a great judge of character to see them connect and hit it off this weekend. It's been amazing.

I know it won't be the last time. We're already going to come have dates set to visit you guys in Tampa and Florida, man. It's just there's just something in the water here. Something is in the water. And I think we have the curious Canadians approval. Can you confirm? Oh, big time. Yeah.

We got the approval. Double stamp it more than money. We're going to have to talk more about this. But for now, we will wrap up this episode of Trading Secrets with Jesse. Solomon, give us five stars, make sure to subscribe, and we are going to have this focus group announced here shortly. We have seen all the emails. We have snapshoted all of the reviews. We'll be selecting 50 people to join our focus group. You will get an email in the next 10 business days, and we will get that going. Thank you again for tuning into another episode of

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